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Mekel Kasanova isn't just a voice actor, streamer, podcaster, and content creator – he's a testament to forging your own path when you don't fit the mold. Growing up as the shortest among thirteen siblings in a family of musical prodigies, Mekel had to find his own lane, leading him on an unexpected journey from Western Samoa to voicing villains in major DC and Marvel productions.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Mekel shares how he discovered unknown siblings in the most unexpected ways – like learning his college best friend was actually his half-sister after a year of friendship when his father showed up at her birthday. These candid family stories reveal the complex tapestry that shapes Mekel's authentic approach to content creation.

When discussing the local creator scene in Hawaii, Mekel doesn't hold back about the challenges of navigating community politics. After witnessing behind-the-scenes negativity and superficial metrics-obsession, he decided to leave a prominent creator collective, only to later receive notice he'd been "kicked out" – a paradox that highlights the sometimes toxic nature of creative communities.

For anyone struggling with content creation advice, Mekel offers a refreshing perspective by challenging the concept of "niching down." Drawing from his success across multiple platforms, he explains why authentic versatility trumps forced specialization. His practical insights about utilizing AI tools like Opus Clip to transform podcasts into platform-specific content and understanding YouTube's algorithm provide valuable strategies without the typical guru-speak.

Whether reminiscing about classic fighting games, revealing the physical toll of voice acting, or explaining how he landed roles in major franchises, Mekel's journey demonstrates that the most compelling creators aren't those following a formula – they're the ones brave enough to embrace their unique perspective while strategically sharing it with the world. Follow Mekel Casanova across all social platforms to continue the conversation and discover his four distinct podcast shows.

• Originally from Western Samoa, Mekel grew up as the shortest in a musically gifted family where he had to find his own path
• Discovered unknown siblings in surprising circumstances, including meeting his sister Chanel after being best friends in college for a year
• Transitioned to voice acting through connections with established actors, landing roles in DC's Justice League Dark and upcoming Marvel projects
• Found his niche voicing villains, explaining the physical toll voice acting can take without proper preparation
• Left a local creator collective after experiencing toxicity and inauthentic behavior, later receiving notice he was "kicked out" after already leaving
• Challenges the concept of "niching down," advocating for creative versatility instead of limiting oneself to one content type
• Reveals tools like Opus Clip that use AI to transform podcast episodes into dozens of platform-specific clips
• Explains YouTube's current algorithm strategy, noting how posting shorts consistently can dramatically increase visibility
• Discusses his passion for classic fighting games like Virtual Fighter, Street Fighter, and Fatal Fury

Follow Mekel Kasanova across all social platforms to keep up with his four podcasts including Casting Over Podcasts and Decked Up.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Am I good?
Yeah, I'm good.
Yeah, cool, yeah, yeah you.
Alright, we on this bitch 5, 4,3, 2, 1.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Relationship Method
Podcast.
I'm Chris.
Today I got a very specialguest.
I got voice actor, streamer,podcaster, porn star, gigolo,

(00:35):
cook daddy.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I mean, I mean.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I got my boy Mikael on this.
Hoe, yay, hey, what's up?
Dog man, thank you for comingon.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, man, it's an honor to be on the show.
We were supposed to do thisbefore, but my schedule got all
crazy, so I apologize for that.
But, man, I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Hey, I do appreciate you and let me ask you, dog, how
did I get the yes from you tocome on Like the very first time
?
How did yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
how did I get that?
Yes, okay, so I got a reallyshitty memory.
Can I swear on this?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh yeah, dude, I got the E on the very bottom.
I got all that shit.
Oh my goodness, you know whatI'm saying.
Do it.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay.
So I got really shitty memories.
So as far as I remember, I Ibelieve you hit me up in the dms
.
You're like, hey, you know,would you be down to come on the
show?
I was like, fuck yeah, like I'malways down.
Here's the thing about me.
A lot of people may not knowthis like, but I love
collaborating with my fellowlocals out here in Hawaii.
I love doing that.
If I can put anyone on or if Ican work with anyone out here,

(01:49):
I'm all about that.
So when you were like, hey, youwant to come on the show, I'm
like say, yes, let's do it.
So that's how that went.
At least I think that's how itwent.
Again, I have very shittymemories.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's a story and I'm'm gonna hold him to that
story hey, a lot of a lot ofrugby.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
You got hidden head a lot, so hey oh, oh shit, you
play rugby.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
For how long you dude ?
Uh, I don't know if, uh, youcould tell by his body type this
motherfucker is like he.
Uh, he's one of themmotherfuckers.
He kind of, he kind of swole,no, I mean, yeah, you know yeah
let me make these motherfuckerspop real quick.
Nah, but yo rugby, like how didone, how did you get into it?

(02:36):
And then two, um like why areyou?
Uh, yeah, what's making youcontinue doing it?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, I'm not doing it now.
Okay, my bad, my bad, I'm notdoing it now.
But I got into it when I waslike.
I want to say I was probablylike five or six this is back in
Western Samoa, so I'moriginally from Western Samoa,
from Musula, it's my village,and yeah, just, my whole family
was into it.
And so they were like, hey, youknow, you don't want to be a

(03:04):
pussy, get into this.
And I was like, okay, you knowhow some ones are, like we talk
shit all the time.
So, you know, I got into it andI'm the youngest.
Okay, I always have to count.
My dad got around, okay.
Oh, yes, he did.

(03:25):
My dad is just.
Anyway, he was horny, he spreadhis lo-fi everywhere, his lo-fi
was everywhere.
So, anyway, Literally that Iknow of, I'm the youngest of 13.
Holy crap.
Yeah, okay, my oldest siblingis like 21, 22 years older than
me.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, I can see that.
So Okay, my oldest sibling islike 21, 22 years older than me.
Okay, I can see that.
So Okay, and I'm the shortest,holy crap.
Yeah, you're pretty tall, waityou're shortest.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm the shortest in my family.
Well, aside from my parents,like, yeah, all my siblings, my
sisters, my brothers, everyone'staller than me.
So I'm the rut of the family.
I have two sisters that arelike 168, 166.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh my gosh, yeah, freaking Amazons Damn Hold up.
So how tall is?
Who's the tallest?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
My brother, Nick, is 72, 73.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh God, did they do anything with you know, like
your brother, your siblings, didthey do anything with you?
Know, your brother, yoursiblings, did they do anything
with their, with their height,like?
Besides, you know, getting thegoddamn cereal, you know?
Did they do like any?
Um, I don't know, like you know.
You know where I'm going.
It would like sports oranything, or acting or modeling,
because they're always wanting.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
So my brothers all did sports.
They did basketball, football,but their first love and passion
is music.
So everyone's musically giftedin my family.
Yeah, I'm the one thatstruggled to keep up, oh shit,
yeah.
So everyone else can sing, theycan play any type of instrument
.
Just by hearing it, they canread music.
They can play any type ofinstrument just by hearing it.

(05:03):
They can read music, they canwrite it.
My brother, tony the oldest,he's like, or was for like
20-something years, consideredthe best bass player in the
South.
Wow, so, if you guys know, likeJosie Scott and Saliva and that
band and all that.
So we left Samoa when I wasseven and we ended up going

(05:28):
because my dad he's, uh,dominican black, he's from um,
from memphis, cnc, so we wemoved there, okay, and so like
saliva and them were in thatarea of memphis that we were,
and so my brother, my oldestbrother, was friends with them,
so like they would come over andplay and jam and I mean cops
come over and names like I planthe music too damn loud and cops

(05:51):
be like, yeah, but that's justgood though.
So, um, yeah, he was consideredthe best, best bass player in
Memphis.
My brother, nick, was one ofthe best drummers.
My brother Devin was one of thebest guitarists, rhythm guitar.
My sister Sheila, she wasphenomenal.

(06:14):
I mean I ain't talked to herass in like 10 years, 15 years,
I don't know.
She went to Europe.
I ain't heard from her since.
Is her name Sheila Sheila?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
if you're hearing this shit, holler at your
brother.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean for real, though.
My heard from her since Is hername Sheila, sheila, yeah,
sheila, if you're hearing thisshit, holler at your brother.
I mean for real, though.
My number ain't changed, girl.
Aw, see, holler at him, please,anyway.
So, yeah, all of them.
And I'll also shout out to mysister, chanel, she was, she's
great at singing too, likeeveryone's gifted.
Then there's me and I'm justlike, damn, I'm everybody's
shadowed night, not onlyfiguratively, literally, because

(06:46):
I'm the, I'm the run, yeah.
So so it's like I had to liketry and figure out something.
I'm not good at sports outsideof like I mean rugby, yeah, I'm
okay with it.
Baseball shorts, I playshortstop, that's okay with it.
Play golf, and when I went tobecause I went to Chaminade,
sorry, I was on the golf teamfor like a little bit Because I

(07:09):
wanted to play basketball.
But I'm like looking at all thebasketball players and I'm like
I got short person eyes, so Ifelt just so short next to
everyone there and so I just didgolf, and even that I barely
played.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Are your siblings still doing the whole music
thing?
Oh no, they're raising theirfamilies now.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Are they?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
all here, or are they all spread out?
All spread?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
out, let's see all over the US and internationally.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Oh snap, see man, I only S, and internationally.
Oh snap, see man, I only havetwo sisters and a brother, 13?
Yeah, in one household.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
No, no.
So with my mom and dad there'sfive of us.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
And it's like every time I would go back to Memphis
or like so this is a crazy story, I love to tell this.
So, my best friend in college,it's my sister chanel, right,
and I had no clue until I thinkit was either her, I think it's
her 19th birthday because I'mlike two years younger than her,

(08:19):
so I think it was her 19thbirthday.
My dad showed up at her dormBecause I was over at her dorm.
We were like making her cakeand everything like that.
And then, like my dad walksthrough the door and I'm like
what the hell are you doing here?
And he's like, oh, I forgot,you went to this college.

(08:39):
My dad's an asshole.
Hi, how you doing Anyway.
So then my sister comes inshe's dad what do you?
what are you doing here?
And I was like wait, dad, yeah,yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.
So that was a whole thing.
That was a whole fucking thing.

(08:59):
Ah and um, like, at that pointwe were her and I were best
friends for like a year and ahalf.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Didn't even know that , because we never really talked
about our families, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
We were kind of like the outcasts at Chumrod and so
it was just funny that she wasmy sister.
My half-sister Explains herattitude.
You know, dominican, black andPuerto Rican, so yeah, she got
all that spice.
And then the second time thathappened, I was working for
Microsoft.
So I was working, we I think wehad opened the Microsoft stores

(09:34):
out here, so I had leftWashington.
I went to Washington state fora little bit to work Microsoft
over there because I was with myex Her dad worked for Microsoft
, got me in, came back here, weopened up I think it was 2013.
So when we opened up theMicrosoft Store out here and so
the guy there, cameron, is my webecame as my second best friend

(09:54):
.
So we were working together foryears and then we ended up
helping the.
I want to say it's the bestbuys had like the.
It had the, the Applerepresentative.
To say it's the Best Buys hadlike the, they had the Apple
representative and then they hadthe Microsoft representative.
So we were the Microsoftrepresentatives at the Best Buy.
We moved from the store to theBest Buys to help train people
and everything like that, youknow, upsell surfaces and shit.

(10:17):
And then one day, on hisbirthday, I think the 29th or
30th birthday the same shithappened.
I'm at his place, that's.
My dad didn't show up for noneof my damn birthdays.
Oh see, I feel some kind of wayabout that.
Showed up for his and I'm likehe's like, uh, and I'm like so

(10:47):
that's my, that's my brother,right?
He's like, yeah, okay dogthat's.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh, man, I could only imagine like your guys's faces
and the conversation after yourdad left, like what the hell?
So did you feel like with thesetwo?
Did you feel like an instantconnection when y'all started
chopping it up for the firsttime?
Yeah, yeah, oh okay.
It wasn't any like so with youknow, your sister.
It wasn't like, oh, I want tomake out with her type stuff.

(11:14):
It was more of a man like we'recool, we're vibing.
I don't see anything past that.
Oh, oh hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, let's just say, uh, I was interested in her to
a point, uh-huh, and then oncethat came out like she was never
interested in me, uh-huh.
But I was just like you know, Iwas interested in her, yeah.
And then when I found out, I'mlike, well, I missed that bullet
, yeah, oh thank god, you know.

(11:45):
Thank you, jesus jeez yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that
was gnarly.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
That's crazy.
We had a like several episodesback.
We had, um, like we mean, whilewe was talking, and uh abu
talking to like a relative thatyou didn't know.
That was, uh, your relative,right, yeah?
so the story.
My story was um, it was my, itwas my aunt's wedding reception

(12:14):
and I was I'm gonna say I wasstill in middle school chopped
it up with, um, these twofemales they were twins.
Uh, after chopping it up, wentback to my table.
My older cousin was telling mehey, do you know these, those
two are your cousins.
I was like no fucking way.
And she's like yeah, do youhave your last name?

(12:35):
I was like no, who they relatedto?
they're related to them and I'mlike holy crap, here I am trying
to like get their digits andshit and I'm not even knowing
they're my cousins.
I'm like you know, and then myboy, he was, um, they were never
related but you know like thefamilies were so close that they

(12:57):
considered themselves cousinsyeah, so I can't.
I don't know if that story isfunny or not.
They made out that's the onlything they did, but um yeah dude
it's.
It's funny how this world is sobig to where, dude, what's your
dad's name?
Maybe you and I related williamjames, okay, no, but that'll be
.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
That'll be cool, right oh my god, hey pause pause
.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I need to fucking reconnect to my brother.
I know that's what I would havedone.
That's what I would have done,hey, so voice acting, we were
chopping it up.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
How did you get into voice acting?
So I got into voice acting forokay, so I got into it within
the last, I want to say likeyear and a half.
Yeah, maybe a year and a halfto two years.
Because, like, I've beeninterviewing so many voice
actors for like the last decadeto a point where a lot of them

(13:54):
were like, hey, you did actingin high school and college.
Like you do impersonations, youcan do method acting.
Why don't you get into voiceacting or go into like acting
and whatnot?
And I'm like, well, I neverconsidered it, you know, like I
just never thought about it.
So the one that really pushed meinto doing voice acting was my

(14:18):
friend, mark Whitten, who doesRengoku and Demon Slayer.
Okay.
So, and every whenever comesout here he saves with me and
he's like, yeah, you know youneed to go ahead and do it.
And I was like, okay, so who doI?
You know what I do, whatworkshops do I take and whatnot,
cause, like I know how to actin front of a camera but I don't

(14:39):
know how like convey all thatwithin a mic.
Yeah, so I started takingclasses.
And then my other friend,gerald Rivers, who does in Bison
and Street Fighter Ooh.
Yeah, like he comes out here allthe time.
He's like all right, let mestart giving you some lessons.
So he started training me.
And then John Eric Bentley, whodoes Barrett and Fonfay and C7

(15:03):
Remake and Rebirth he used to beon star trek was it voyager I
forget which one it was, but hewas on that and, uh, he started
training me too.
So I got to both of themtraining me.
Then they were like pointing metowards all kinds of stuff,
because a lot of people thinkwhen it comes to voice acting,
they're thinking, you know,anime or video games, which I

(15:25):
meant some stuff coming up Ican't say what it is yet ndas,
um, some stuff dropping thisyear end of this year is put
that way.
So, um, they were training mefor anime and voice acting and,
well, animating and gaming, butalso telling me, like, okay,

(15:47):
where the real money is isaudiobooks, because voice actors
don't typically get paid a lot.
And right now they're goingthrough this whole process with
ai and you know companies justcloning voices because they're
like I don't want to pay thisvoice.
I can just clone it.
So, um, which is I think we gotthe strike going on right now
currently with that, but yeah,so they got me into that.
So I started doing a couplesmall bit roles, like just doing

(16:12):
like battle cries or likerandom NPC character, and then
the first role I landed was forwhat's it called Justice League
Dark.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Oh shit.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
For DC, so I landed that role for this four-part
audio drama.
So I'm the main villain, theFloronic man.
They wanted me to.
They're like what's the mostvillainous voice that you can do
?
And I'm like, well, I can talklike this, Like I'm just some
type of damn demon.
And they're like, okay, can youdo that and also make it sound

(16:46):
like you're slowly going betweenthis mild, meek-mannered
scientist, but who's liketransforming into this?
Okay, and I was like okay,they're like, but we want you to
fluctuate during your delivery.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like fluctuate, as in volume-wise.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, so like I'll go from Tone-wise Well, I'm
talking like this and you know Ineed to do this.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Oh God, it's taking over me, you know like doing
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, and the thing is I've got In a four-part
series.
Like I've got the most lines inparts one, three and four.
I've got the most lines inparts one, three and four and.
I have to stay in that tone oftalking like that Fucked my
voice Really.
Yeah, because I forgot I neededto do vocal warm-ups and like

(17:36):
don't drink anything coldchamomile hot tea prep yourself.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, holy crap, I did not know that.
Yeah, there's a whole routine.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Really Holy crap.
I did not know that there's awhole routine.
Really Getting ready.
So yeah, so that was the firstthing and that was my first
major role that I did last year.
So I did that.
I then landed some acting, likesome on-camera stuff, from some

(18:04):
of my actor friends, and so oneof them I'm an extra in a DC
movie.
Let's just say that.
Ooh, okay, so I had to fly tothe UK for that, so I went to
Birmingham.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Ooh okay, now we got to search DC, dc, upcoming
movies filmed in UK.
We'll figure out which movie itis.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Let's just say, I'll just say this who's the current
Batman?

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Hold on hold on hold on the dude from Twilight.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Oh, but I said nothing, did I?
No, you didn't.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Team Jacob all the way though.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
So yeah, I did that.
So I got that.
Immediately after that I had tofly to Australia.
Okay, good night mate.
For a Marvel project, oh nice,so can't tell you what that is.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what's coming up?
Hold on.
Is it the four Fantastic Four?
No, what is coming up?
You know what?
Don't tell me, I'll figure thatbitch out, but fuck it, goddamn

(19:22):
.
Oh, I meant, oh, oh, I meantextra.
Oh okay, I didn't.
Oh okay, say that, yeah, so dothey.
Are they paying you to fly outor is it coming out of your dime
?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
no, no no, they pay for it.
Oh hey, that's what's up andextras.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Is it um?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
is it a hard gig to get to be like an extra in a
film um, typically, from what Iunderstand, it is and these are
the first two on-camera things-I've done for acting.
Typically, a lot of people gothrough an agent or have this
whole process or they're signedto some agency Like out here

(19:58):
there's a Kathy Mueller talentagency which a lot of people are
signed to Me personally.
I just got in on these thingsjust because of who I know oh, I
skipped the line I know Ipissed people.
Yeah, yeah, I pissed people offwith that, I'm sorry.
Well, I'm not man who cares butthat's you know.
Typically you have to have,like, some type of like agency

(20:21):
or an agent or someone that canyou know, get you these gigs.
But because I knew people, yeah, you know that opened those
type of doors.
Now, uh, I can't, I can.
I can actually say this becausethe guy said in the podcast I
did with him uh, so there's agame coming out called gear
slayer, which is, um, fightinggame.
Uh, they're doing a.

(20:42):
They're doing a fighting game,but they're doing like a trading
card game first Okay, okay,okay, they're trying to compete
with Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh andPokemon and all that, and I'm
going to be voicing a couplecharacters, but primarily I'm
going to be voicing the mainvillain.
So that's going to be my secondlead type of role.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Like apparently.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I keep getting voiced as a villain.
I keep even on-screen stufffrom doing the villain.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I'm like do I look?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
like a villain.
Is it the dreads?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's got to be.
You just got that villaindemeanor bro.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I guess, so you know.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
And then you stream as well.
Yeah, Okay, I had a streamer on.
She educated me on like somewords and shit.
I used to call it Twitching.
But are you on Twitch?
No, Okay, no, I used to be.
Is there other streamingplatforms besides Twitch,
because that's the only one thatI know?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
So there's Twitch Okay, youtube, okay, youtube.
They're really pushing thatright now.
So if anybody wants to streamon YouTube.
This is me letting y'all in.
I was on an eight-week bootcamp from YouTube Stream
vertically.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
As in like your camera up, like that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, so you know how , like when you're on like
TikTok you see the.
TikTok reels and it's thatvertical format.
Or if you're on Instagram, yousee the TikTok reels and it's
that vertical format.
Or if you're on Instagram, yousee the reels.
Youtube is trying.
They're dumping billions intotrying to compete with TikTok
Uh-huh, so they're also probablyone of the reasons it's trying
to get banned is because theywant to eliminate their
competition.

(22:20):
Yes, their competition, yes,but um, if you can set up a 9 by
16 aspect ratio and stream onthat, even if it's half an hour,
they will push the hell out ofit no way yeah, they're.
They're really pushing verticalstreaming, so anyone who wants
to stream yeah, you can dotwitch.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I don't know anything about it, so uh okay but so
streaming is it?
Um, we'll just talk a littlebit briefly about that.
Uh, is it?
Is it hard to stream?
Like, like how, how does oneget into that shit?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
like what do you need a computer, a green screen, and
you're, and you're going, orlike uh, a lot of times you can
just do it straight from yourphone, straight from your phone,
like you don't.
You don't need anything reallyreally okay the best platforms
right now to stream?
I mean, if you got the time toinvest into it, obviously twitch
, but I don't know the movesthat twitch is making is

(23:15):
probably going to be gone in thenext seven to eight years.
Oh really, yeah, there's a lotcoming out about.
Oh snap um but um, yeah, sotwitch youtube, uh kick I've
heard, I've heard of kick.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Don't know what it is , but I've heard of it there's
so much controversy with kick.
Oh, that's another twitch, sir,I mean twitch stream service
yeah, okay, and then uh, tiktok.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
So I stream full time on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
So I signed with Carter Pulse Talent Agency and
they're like hey, you know, wewant to help blow up your TikTok
.
At the time I had like probably500 followers.
I'm at 14.5 thousand now and so, like, all they did was like
hey, you know, do this, do that,set your schedule.
So, when it comes to streaming,the hard part about that is not

(24:13):
immersing yourself too muchinto what you're doing.
Like, if you're gaming, it'seasy to just like lock in on
playing the game, but then youforget oh well, shit, there's a
mic, there's a camera, I'msupposed to entertain, you know,
people aren't.
A lot of people will assumelike, oh, it's about me playing
the game.
Like, no, it's not about justplaying the game, it's about the
actual entertainment.
What value?

(24:34):
Because people aren't.
The way that Carter Pulseexplained it to me was streaming
and content creation right nowis completely replacing, like TV
.
So people would rather watch,you know, youtube video or
stream than actually watch a TVshow or reality TV.

(24:57):
Yeah, it was like people thinkit's already fake nine times out
of ten reality TV shows.
Bullshit.
Yeah, but that you know whenthey, they gave me that that
idea.
Well, not the idea they.
They told me that's how it is,and then when you're streaming,
to focus on a little bit on whatyou're doing, because you don't
want to play like shit, unlessyou're going to play into like

(25:20):
goofing off, like, oh man, I atthis, that's how I am in Madden.
I suck at Madden.
I'll put it on easy.
I'm not ashamed to say that.
Okay, I will get that 70-pointblowout playing on easy, but you
got to be entertaining, you gotto have some type of

(25:41):
personality that makes you standout, because a lot of people
will see like their favoritecontent creator and try to
emulate them to a point of notinjecting no ditty.
But, injecting their own Heavypause on that.
But they don't want to injecttheir own type of personality
into the persona me.

(26:01):
I will say whatever's on mymind, but I have to catch myself
from cursing because TikTok isvery strict about that.
Are they really?
They are.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
You know who's strict on cursing as well, who, some
type of group that we're fittingto get into?
You know what group it is?
Dog, I do, yeah, okay.
So tell me.
You know what group it is?
Dog, I do, yeah, okay.
So tell me.
You told me the story that yougot booted off, kicked out,
whatever.
How did that shit happen?

(26:33):
Because I think my ass is inthat same boat and it's because
let me tell you why Okay, it'sbecause, my see, I don't even
want, to like, consider myselfas a content creator, because I
don't think I am.
I'm just doing, like, somethingfun and therapeutic for you
know, for me, you're atastemaker, I get.

(26:55):
What is that?
What is that?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
So that's you know.
You just create quality likethat you enjoy yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
And you put it out there and people vibe with, yeah
it's like, yeah, it's not forthem, yeah, yeah.
So I do that and because oflike say the way I talk, because
I cuss a lot my topics that I,you know, that I come out with,
yeah, it's not to, you know,their liking, you know, and I'm
always getting these yeah andit's uh if they watch or if they
, if they listen.
I'm always getting these likethe rules, the warnings.
I'm getting them emailed.
I'm like, oh dude, I'm sorry,but it came to the point where

(27:33):
I'm just like I don't give afuck, I'm just going to just do
it, I'm going to tag them.
If they don't post, I honestlydon't care no more.
But yeah, man, what was yourstory on getting uh, yeeted?
Yeah, how does that evenfucking happen?
Like I don't see that happeningat all.
Like how?

(27:54):
So oh yeah, it's time for thisone.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah okay, so I basically went to.
For those of y'all who don'tknow, there's a collective group
out here in hawaii for for Iknow right, it's a collective
for creators with no missionstatement that really promotes

(28:21):
or helps anyone.
It's it's so.
I've been in this contentcreating game, okay, for 14
years now.
Oh, I've seen this.
We come together, like for like, follow for follow, post for
post, reshare for reshare.
You're gaming the system, butit doesn't really help outside
of the people who are at the topuh top in my people, so,

(28:45):
anyways.
So I was in this group, we bothwere well, you still are.
I'm not.
Yeah anyway, so there is anevent, connie, oh hang, there's
a lot of shit talking going onfor a lot of group towards
specific groups and people inthis collective.
I didn't vibe with that becausemy thing is, if we're coming

(29:06):
together to promote, collaborate, why are we talking shit about
each other?
Yeah, facts, like I don't getthat and maybe that's just
because I've worked with groupsoutside of here.
I've worked with brands andbusiness.
Like, if we're coming together,that's what we're doing, this
shit talking.

(29:27):
Like, oh, I'm smiling in frontof your face and then, as soon
as you turn your back, I'm gonnatalk shit about you.
I saw so much of that.
Uh-huh, it was this one youngkid, um, you know, and he was a
fan of a specific other creatorin his group and uh, who does
comedy, and I guess they rap too.
So the kid wanted to rap toimpress this guy.

(29:50):
The guy talked shit about himand walked away while the young
guy was rapping.
He's like, oh man, you're myhero and all this.
I'm listening to that.
And then I'm also seeing theguy walk away, stand to the side
.
I walked over to him and he'stalking all that shit about him.
I'm just like that's fucked up.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That's a kid.
Yeah that's a kid just rappingat you for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, and he's a fan of yours.
How many of us going into thiscontent creating thing are
actually expecting to have fans?
Yeah, so appreciate that.
And so there's that.
Then some of the females thatwere there talking a lot of
about some of the other femalesand some other groups in there,
and then, way bro, and then itcame about like oh, how many

(30:33):
instagram followers do you have?
Who cares?
I'm just like, and mostly allmotherfuckers pay for this yeah,
yeah, you know like like I.
My thing is like how you gotthousands of followers and you
barely got any engagement right.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Oh my gosh, that is so true yeah, just saying so
anyways.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So after that whole event and all the shit talking
that was going on, I ultimatelyI reached out to, you know, some
of the folks that were runningthe group and I told them, like
this ain't for me, I'm not aboutthis.
This is like I already wasstarting to feel some kind of
way about the you know howthings were being done, some of

(31:18):
the things that were said behindfolks' back, but I'm like, look
, I built my shit on my own.
I don't need to be part of agroup, I'm good with it, I'm
done.
And I had a couple one-on-onetalks with some of the folks
running the group, yeah, andthey were like, okay, we
understand, cool, don't worryabout it, we hate that you had
this experience.
I was like, okay, well, Iappreciate the opportunity, but

(31:42):
you know, it's not for me,uh-huh.
So that was I want to say itwas either.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think it was april when that last year of last year
oh, I mean, that was a realmature way of doing it it was
like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
So then there's a then.
Oh.
So then, wow, juicy, on mybirthday in october of last year
.
Then I get this email hate,hate to say this, but it was a
tough decision for us to make tolet you go from the group.
But you can reapply if you wantto and I'm like I got let go,
I'm kicked out of the group.

(32:14):
How the fuck I get kicked outif I walked out?
But you know that's what I got.
And a lot of folks in the group,could you know?
Let's just be honest.
A lot of us we are cool, we dotalk, we do engage with each
other's content, but a lot offolks are in there just to

(32:35):
self-promote and grow themselves.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
And so, like I started having a mass exodus of
people that were following me.
They were in the group, theyjust unfollowed me and I'm like,
well, I ain't mad at you, yeah.
And then, you know, a coupleother folks would hit me up on
the side.
They were still in the group.
They're like, yeah, I heard yougot kicked out of the group.
I'm like, oh okay, I got kickedout.
I got kicked out, I left, yep,but yeah, like there's some good

(33:14):
people in that group.
Yeah, you, james main, 808viral.
Uh, daniella, some, you know,roy, roy, yamada, there's some
really good people in that group, but there's a lot of fuckheads
in that group too.
And the heat can come to me.
I want the smoke All of it.
Bro, look, we can move somefurniture.
You can be a barbecue up inhere.
I'll, chef Boyardee that bitchSalt and pepper.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Hey season it, bitch.
Salt and pepper ain't seasoneda bitch, do you still talk to
these people?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Occasionally.
James, that's my Uso.
I hit him up a lot.
We talk back and forth all thetime.
Daniela and 808 Viro talk toher a lot too.
Roy, here and there.
Uh, mostly just about fitnessand such and um, you know,
whenever you're free and I'mfree, we chop it up.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, but you know, beyond that, I don't talk to
anyone else in the group oh snapokay oh dude yeah, it's a
because, uh, when I started, youknow, when I got into to that
specific group, one person, hetried coaching me on how to post

(34:32):
things, which it helped,because I for sure as hell
didn't know what to do.
All I did was, just when Istarted, I was just posting
Because I mean shit.
I thought it was funny.
Yeah, and then it became likemonths on end.
It became to the point whereyou can't do that.
Too much explicit words, thetopic is a little too thing.

(34:53):
We got to be child-friendly andI'm like, dude, you're flashing
, like and I told this story acouple times You're flashing,
you know, you got people inboobs, you got booty out there.
You got people in boobs, yougot booty out there.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
You got liquor there.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm like dog, but I can't say shit.
Or fuck, you know what I'msaying.
Or I can't talk about like well, I mean, yeah, that's kind of
bad.
I was going to say, oh, youknow, like head lessons.
No, okay, that's okay, Iunderstand, I had a clip of that

(35:27):
.
That's really cool.
But, um, but, yeah, it's.
It was just there's so much, somany rules and I was like, fuck
.
I talked to him, I asked mywife about it.
I'm like, should I even likestay in, because they are asking
me like, hey, man, you want tocome out to this?
And the third I'm like, nah,man, I'm sorry, I'm recording.
Or, you know, I'm with my kidsbecause I'm not, I'm not trying
to like lose time with them.

(35:48):
Yeah, so yeah I don't know ifit's a, you know, I don't know
if I'm gonna get pushed out orwhatever.
But going back on that, um,what was your niche or quiche,
or whatever they say, you know,like, yeah, like you got to have
a niche or something, rightyeah?
Yeah, okay, so can you breakthat down to people that don't

(36:09):
know what a niche or a quiche orwhatever that is.
I still be getting confused ashell.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
So like the big thing about a niche.
So basically a niche, Niche.
Nah, I want some quiche.
I don't even know what it is,but it sounds delicious uh, it's
.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
So it's some white people food, I know, right, it's
.
It's like a.
It's like a, an egg pie orwhatever.
So it's like it looks like a.
Uh, it's.
It's made out of eggs, you canput whatever in it, but it looks
like a pie.
It's like a square or whateverso it's uh, for I mean I say
white people food, becausethat's the very.
That's like.
The first time I ever had itwas with white people, yeah, and

(36:50):
they knew what it was and I waslike, oh snap, you had a little
ketchup and tabasco.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's just buzzing boy okay, so, so, so, yeah.
So like a niche is basicallylike you have like a specialty
in like a particular field, likewhatever it is you're doing, if
you're doing beauty or makeup.
You're doing flippy parkourshit.
No offense to you who do thatin a group.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Parkour, parkour, parkour.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Or if you're doing music or something, it's just
like you're specializing insomething that's a niche.
So mine is podcasting, becausethat's the genesis of any
content I've done was podcasting, which I got into it because of
that brother that I was workingwith at Microsoft.

(37:38):
It was his idea originally andso you know that's my niche
originally and so you knowthat's that's my niche.
But I also branch out of thatbecause I feel like you're
constantly told, as a contentcreator, you got a niche down,
niche down, niche down.
You got stay in your niche.
The problem is we're human,we're multifaceted, we're not

(38:01):
just a niche and a lot of thepeople that I know that have
been super successful as contentcreators millions of followers
or millions of subs or whateverthey get sick of only being able
to do that one thing.
Now, if you just do the onething, you will blow up very
quickly or faster than most, asopposed to doing variety content

(38:27):
.
I do variety content, so I dopodcasting, I do streaming, I do
video and game and tech reviews.
I do all this other stuff.
So when I got in a group, theirniche was, oh, you're a
streamer, because they didn'tknow what the other stuff I did
was.
Even I explained.
I explained it.
They're like oh, so you justplay video games.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I was like bitch.
No, I don't.
I was like okay.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Oh, this is a funny story, side note.
So there's a girl specificallyin this group, young girl, right
?
She's like so what is itexactly you do with your brand?
And I'm like, what is itexactly you do with your brand?
And I'm like, what do you mean?
She's like, well, you just wantanother one of those streamers,
right, one of those streamerstrying to make.
I'm like, oh, I'm just one ofthose fucking streamers.

(39:13):
And she's like, well, that'swhat you, that's all you do.
Right, like no bitch, I do allthis other shit too, uh-huh.
And she's like oh, well, I'm abusiness owner.
Oh, really, what kind ofbusiness do you own?
Do you have an LLC?
Do you do your own taxes?
Well, I'm part of this groupwhere I give a referral link.

(39:35):
I'm like oh, so you domulti-level marketing.
You're not a business owner.
Come talk to me in five yearsafter you get your degree girl.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
He said you got no nipples, okay, okay but yeah
thank god man.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
So see, you don't get me in trouble.
I don't care, brain to smokeit's okay, it's okay but like
that's the thing that justdoesn't make sense to me, like
they're they.
You know they said the samething to me.
Like some of the content I putout some of the swearing yeah I
couldn't do that.
They're saying that to you, butI'm just like but you got some
only fan type girls in thisgroup.
You know who?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
all they do is show tna, but it's got to be kid
friendly, fuck outta here yeah,I liked how you described or
like broke down the niche thing,because I started cause I just
all I wanted to do waspodcasting, right, and that's

(40:36):
what I started out with.
Before podcasting I was ablogger fucking just typed away
right.
So now it's like my creativejuices are flowing.
So now I'm writing like littlecomedy sketches or little you
know, uh, little scenes formusic videos that I want to like
put out there, because I don't,like I've seen youtube and I've

(40:58):
seen, like I watch my fairshare of like comedy bits and
stuff, but I want to likethere's comedy stuff that I
haven't seen yet, but I like Ityped them all down right.
So the, the way you described,the how you're, not this you're.
You know you have differentavenues.
That's where, that's where I'mtrying to, you know, go to in

(41:18):
this whole niching down thing,like I didn't like it when they
approached me with that like oh,you just straight up, or yeah,
you're just straight up, justpodcasting, and I was like, oh
no, no way, dude, uh, I got morestuff like in my head.
You know I'm saying like, don'tfunnel me in to that, because I
mean I play basketball too.
You want to get some, you knowI'm saying like don't, don't
funnel me in to that, because Imean I play basketball too.

(41:39):
You want to get some you knowlike yeah, yeah, I do other
things too, like I'm a parenttoo, like yeah, so I'm glad that
you, you know, broke down thewhole niche and like going on
different avenue stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
So that's what's up so, and that's one of the things
, one of my good friends well,two of them NeuroKnowledge,
which I don't know how manypeople know about him.
He does a lot of quantum,mechanical and esoteric type of
content on YouTube.
And then he also our otherfriend, aj, who does a lot of

(42:13):
personal coaching, consultingwhatnot?
Aj, who does a lot of personalcoaching, consulting whatnot.
He took NeuroKnowledge fromlike 5,000 subs on YouTube to
over 240,000 in six months.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Oh shit.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah.
So AJ will tell you in aheartbeat F screw, not F screw.
No, we love screwing.
Okay, foreign stars over here.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Anyways, ladies, you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Anyway, you know um, he'll say, screw niching down,
because he's like you're morethan just that and it's like
people want the thing.
People want some type oftangibility, some type of
relatability yeah you know theywant something real because
we're in this time.
You look at all this contentthat's out now.
Everything looks like a goddamncommercial.

(43:00):
Yeah, you go look at a scriptedright, like everything is so
scripted.
You look at a review of aproduct and I'm like are you
actually?
You are you paid?
Like I mean, I get asked thisall the time.
Are you getting paid for it?
No, but yes, but no.
But you know like people wantsomething real, like you don't
have to do overly edited oroverly all the.

(43:25):
You know like a lot of peoplelike do all these jump cuts to
different angles and all?
Oh my bro, I can't stand that.
I tried doing that one time.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm like y'all, I'm tired bro, I I love you said
love.
You said that because I'm inthat same predicament too, like
the reason why I'm backed up onvideo, my podcast videos, is
because I want those jump cutsright.
But then my last.
I want to say three or fourvideos that I put on YouTube.
It was I did the cuts like inthe beginning and at the end and

(43:54):
in the middle I just left.
It was I did the cuts like inthe beginning and at the end and
in the middle, I just left itraw.
You know, and I'm so glad youfucking said it because it is
fucking exhausting yeah.
Like just click cut, pan it out,pan it thing, because,
especially if you only have onecamera, you gotta like I'm like
oh my god, so oh, thank you forfucking saying that.
Like oh my gosh, so oh, thankyou for fucking saying that.

(44:15):
Like the struggle, dude, dude.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Do you use Opus Clip?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I got suggested to use Opus Clip.
I use DaVinci, resolve DaVinci,okay yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
So a quick way and so , like AJ will tell you this, I
will tell you this If you havelike a video, like a pot, like
you do a video version of thispodcast, right, you take that
link or you can just uploaddirectly to opus clip.
It'll make you anywhere from 20to 40 clips.

(44:48):
Really, it uses, utilizes ai.
It can do the zoom in, zoom outpan.
It can do the vertical layoutregular.
It can do the captioning.
It cuts out dead space.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Opus clips.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
And it will find what has the propensity or
probability of going viral.
It'll make sure you get all thetags.
You can also tinker with it,man.
You see all those clips I putout, man I don't manually do
nothing Son of a bitch Bro.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I got tired of that, look, look I'm manually fucking
doing it and you're telling meyou know how tiring that is.
There's ai that could fucking.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Hey, it's a different game,folks, and I'm fitting enough
and you're gonna see me eatquiche.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Boy, you better calm down like yo just throw it in
there and just makes all yourclips.
You can also set it up to like.
Post directly to what platforms?
Tiktok, instagram, twitter, um,I appreciate whatever.
Yeah, like and it's out there.
They got free trials.
I think I pay like 10 or 15bucks a month for it.

(45:57):
It's so worth it.
Really.
They're trying to because I dida they want to do.
They want to work withpodcasters, so and I'll refer
you to them so you can get intouch with them.
So basically, they want to makeOpus Clip like your go-to for
everything when it comes topodcasts.

(46:17):
Like you can edit everythingright there.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Oh shit Really.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
And like they're integrating.
Over the last year and a halfI've been using it.
Now they're making it to thepoint where you can just edit
the whole damn thing there.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Shit.
Do they do virtual podcasts too, on Opus Clips?
They're going to add that in,or they're gonna add that I'm
gonna add that I'm usingriverside right now same here.
Okay, cool yeah I was like oh,thank you, riverside, for doing
the hard work for me.
I know right, I just gotta showup so yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
So, like, what I've learned is, when you use opus
clip, uh, if you're gonna postto youtube, try to post two or
three clips.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
As a short, as a short Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
As a short, doesn't matter what it is, but like
every day two to three, watchhow they go from maybe a couple
dozen views, a couple hundred, acouple thousand, and then you
just get into that algorithm nofucking way.
So you could literally do oneor two regular videos, but as

(47:23):
long as you got those clipsgoing that's it and that's like
and you're saying two a day willput you in that algorithm.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yep bro, I talked to my friends about the algorithm,
right?
I'm still clueless on the wholealgorithm thing.
So is it like, the much likethe more you post, the more the
algorithm, whatever catches it.
Is that how it?
So am I explaining that right?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
No, no, no, no.
That's how it is it used to be.
You could literally just do onevideo every other month, like
that was before COVID and TikTok.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
But because YouTube is now fighting so hard to go up
against TikTok, they don'treally even care about long-form
content so long as you put theshorts up.
But what you can do if you'reuploading the shorts, you can
tie it back to the originalvideo.
Oh so, like people would belike oh, I like this clip, I

(48:25):
want to see more and it'll likeprovide a way for them to go
straight to it.
I've had videos like just blowup off of that.
Like I think I put out a shortfor this one controller, the
Vitrix Pro BFG.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I've seen that.
Yeah, I watched that one.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
That one short on YouTube, million views, fuck.
And it continues to get perweek 30,000 to 40,000.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
God damn.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
So I'm like well, shit, okay, opus Clip is worth
it.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Let's keep this recipe going.
Ah damn.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
But yeah, like with the algorithm, like I say, if
you can do the short one regularvideo a week or podcast, it
doesn't matter.
I know that they're reallypushing hard for podcasts on
YouTube because YouTube is nowtrying to compete with Spotify.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I've seen Spotify podcasts.
Like I didn't know you couldwatch it on spotify.
Now you feel me?
Yeah, because I thought it wasjust just just sound, you know,
not watching.
So yeah, someone, someone toldme, but I was like no fucking
way, you're fucking lying to me.
Uh, I think.
I think this was like a weekago too.
I I was like no, fuck it wait.

(49:35):
So I went on Spotify.
I'm like holy fucking shit, I'mwatching someone's podcast.
I didn't know you could tieyour shit to that platform now
and I'm like what the fuck am I?
I just feel so uninformed, youknow, lost in the sauce.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
There's not what I found, especially in doing
podcasting, like there's not alot of people that know or talk
about a lot of this stuff outthere.
I came to know about the videostuff for Spotify through my
friend, chris Van Vliet.
So Chris was like hey, you knowwhy don't you move from

(50:15):
whatever hosting platform you'reon now and go over to Spotify?
And I was like what?
But I just do audio here and Ido video on YouTube.
He's like yeah, but you can dovideo.
I was like wait, what I can dovideo on Spotify?
He's like, yeah.
So that was like I want to saytwo or so years ago, two and a
half, oh shit.

(50:37):
And so then Chris reached out tospotify because they sponsor
his show.
And then they got in touch withme and they started sponsoring
my shows.
So they're like yeah, you know,just put the video version up.
We also reroute it to applepodcast, google podcast, sit
your tune in amazon, all thatyou know.
Make everything easy.
You can make your revenue offof it directly.

(50:59):
Oh wow, you can getsponsorships and brand deals
straight through it.
Like I was like, oh, no onetalks about this stuff so you
just upload the video on spotify.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
That easy, yeah, or?

Speaker 2 (51:10):
spotify for creators.
Uh, you can, wow, set that up.
You can tie it to your currentSpotify account.
If you have another hostingplatform I know Riverside you
can host through them you canactually take your RSS feed that
you currently have, move itover to Spotify for creators and
then they'll just take care ofeverything from there.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Fucking dropping jams dog Dropping jams, bro, before
we dip out.
Man, what's your go-to fightinggame?
Like give me, like, give me,give me three, because I'll give
you my three.
That I'm really good at andI'll still like, if it ever came
out in the arcade I'd say I'dcompeted in again.

(51:52):
Okay, because I used to compete.
So, yeah, what's the fightinggames at off top virtual?
Fighter virtual fighter okayfire.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
That's, that's my jam .
I'm glad this series is finallyback.
Can't wait for virtual fire 6to drop um second, um, I can't
say tech anymore, because techhas kind of lost.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
It's just it just lost its, it's just.
It just lost its it ain't.
I think it lost me when youcould do like the side Remember
the side move yeah, you side,yeah, yeah, that's when it lost
me.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
And now, like the recent game they, when they had
the story where you're fightingon an asteroid falling onto the
earth, I'm like what the tech?
And yeah, I can't see techanymore.
Uh, street fighter, I lovestreet fighter.
Uh, um, I actually compete forstreet fighter six.
Um, last one, and I was shockedthat this was coming back.

(52:51):
Fatal fury, really fatal furyyeah, okay, okay, so I'm
actually right now I'm workingwith snk for because it's coming
out.
I'm not sure when this podcastis going to be going out.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Like in a month, and some change.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
A month.
Okay, so that is when the gamedrops.
Oh shit, so it's first FatalFury in 26 years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mworking with them promoting the
game.
I'm working with uh all thevoice actors that are in the
game.
One of them actually is at uh,kwai khan.
Yeah, david matranga.
He's uh bringing ken fromstreet fighter over to fatal

(53:27):
fury.
So now they're cross fatal furyand street fire, are crossing
over shut the and it's canon toeach other's plots.
And I was like wait, what?
Which is crazy, because I knowa lot of the young kids don't
know fatal fury.
We're all here, yeah, we grewup.
Yeah, street fighter, fatal fury, double dragon noble dragon
freaking final fight battletoads battle toads.

(53:49):
Yo like we grew up with that,yeah, and just seeing all that
come back, bro.
We got new Shinobi and NinjaGaiden coming out this year.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Ninja Gaiden yeah, the last time I played that was
on the.
Was it the first Xbox?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
That's when I think that's when the last time I
played it.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
They dropped.
They remade the sequel to thatone and they had a I think it
was.
Xbox had a developer conference.
They're like, oh, yeah, here'sNinja Gaiden 2 Black.
And guess what it's availableright now?
Oh, we got Ninja Gaiden 4coming out later this year.
Whoa, wait a minute, we got anew 2D Ninja Gaiden, like the

(54:26):
old Nintendo one.
Oh, we got that coming out insummer.
And then Sega's like hey, wegot a new Shinobi coming out.
We got was it Streets of Rage?
A new one coming out.
I'm like, what timeline are wein right now?
It's crazy.
Yeah, like a lot of the oldstuff.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
And I've heard this and don't quote me, folks but
New Killer Instinct is in theworks, is what I've heard.
So my games are Marvel versusCapcom 2.
I competed in that KillerInstinct.
That was like my shit too.
I was always with Orchid,because that Infinity combo,

(55:08):
that was my cheat code.
And then DBZ Vodokai, that'slike because my kids play it, my
little ones play it.
So I'm like, okay, okay, I getto fuck with them now, you know,
but it's, it's crazy because,uh, my, my kids, they like these
games and they're like six andeight yeah they don't know what
the hell they're doing.
But it's just, it's fun watchingthem like figuring around out

(55:32):
like the moves and I'm talkingabout like they're not using the
joysticks yet, they're still onthe the controller.
But I do want to bring myjoystick back and like see how
they react to it.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
But yeah, those are my top three, like my all-time
fighting games Nice.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
The other ones.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
It's just like damn, I fucking suck, I suck.
Like Mortal Kombat, I fuckingsuck.
I can't play Mortal Kombat Likethe new ones yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Like they're.
So I don't know.
I feel like when we weregrowing up playing Mortal Kombat
, it was simple.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Oh, yeah, it was super simple.
Block back, back Fucking.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
That was it.
You know that was it.
But like now it's like you gotto do all these extra combos and
setups and still using the sameold inputs, and I'm and still
using the same old inputs andI'm just like, yeah, this is a,
this is a bit much, yeah, yeahso yeah, did you ever get?

(56:24):
finger cramp, or when you werelike playing, like, let's say,
in the arcade, when you're like,oh yeah, bro, back in the day
with freaking nvc and nvc2, ohyeah, yeah, oh yeah, ah yeah,
they brought back.
Uh, did you get the Marvel vsCapcom collection?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
No, I didn't no.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
So they brought, it's got.
Was it X-Men, children of theAtom, up to Marvel vs Capcom 2
with complete online rollbacknetcode, everything.
Really, they dropped that.
I want to say June or July oflast year.
Physical copies dropped acouple weeks back.

(56:59):
They brought back Capcom vs SNK1 and 2.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I've seen that that's coming back out.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
So it's like the young kids are like, oh, this is
cool, and then they play it.
Oh, this is hard yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
No fucking shit.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
You need a controller to fucking do it.
Right or like a joystick my bad, my bad.
A joystick, well shit, hell man, that was fun.
Dog, do you have any?
Uh like shout outs or anything,or where can these people find
you at man?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
this is too short.
We need another hour.
I know right.
I know like we'll really.
This is like club shea Shay,I'm loving this.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Get it off your chest player.
Get it off your chest, I knowright.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
So as far as shout-outs, I want to give you a
shout-out.
Thank you for the opportunityto come on the show.
This has been absolutelyphenomenal and I've got to get
you on mine.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Oh, definitely, I've got to get you on mine.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Other than that, other shout-outs.
I want to shout-out my brotherCameron.
He runs CarQuicks Podcast.
He does a lot of stuff workingwith the automotive industry.
We're supposed to collaborateagain and bring back our old
podcast, but our schedules arejust all over the place Life is
lifing Life is yeah, I, I meanthis adulting thing is.

(58:20):
It's whack, dude.
You kids need to stop trying togrow up so quickly.
Oh, definitely enjoy being akid definitely um other than
that?
Uh, that's, that's, I guess.
Do we want to shout out thehawaii group?
shout out to y'all hey, thankyou for giving a motherfucker a
chance yeah, yeah, but but youknow, what I want to say about

(58:42):
that is you in particular, donot need that group.
Oh why?
Why you say that?
Why is that before we dip out?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
what, yeah, why you say that shit I?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
my opinion yeah, let's hear you make phenomenal
content oh, thank you podcast isreally good, and I'm not just
saying that, but when you'remaking content as good as you
are, you don't need a collective, you don't need okay like I
said, if you start using opusclip and you know, just get your

(59:14):
stuff out there, especially onYouTube and whatnot.
There are not a lot.
And also, because we're inHawaii, there's not a lot of
competition.
Oh, I'm not throwing shade, I'mjust saying there's not a lot
of competition.
A lot of brands and businessesand individuals want to do

(59:37):
something in hawaii and it's aperfect backdrop, it's a perfect
springboard.
We'll probably talk after this.
But, like a lot of money, youcan make a lot of opportunities,
a lot of doors.
There's zero competition.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Well, goddamn, I'm going to end this shit.
I'll play man, I'll play.
Hey, I do appreciate you comingon.
Oh, where can these people findyou at?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
dog, you guys can find me, I'm on every social
media platform.
Am I only fans too?
No, not really, only toes baby,only toes, only toes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Hey, only toes, only toes.
Let him write your name.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I know right.
You can find me on everyplatform, mikhail Casanova
across the board, which is funny.
A lot of people think, oh, youhave Casanova because you're a
playboy Like no.
My dad's father's name wasMikhail Casanova.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
That's gnarly as hell , yeah, casanova, yeah yeah.
Imagine your last name wasDraco too.
Miguel Casanova, that's gnarlyas hell, yeah, casanova, yeah
yeah, imagine your last name wasDraco too.
I know right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I know right.
So, like when I came up with it, you know my real name is Mikel
Faltea, so I decided to honormy grandfather because he was a
great.
I mean, my dad's a piece ofshit, but my grandfather was a
great man, yeah.
So I wanted to honor him withthat and I just kept my real
first name and then, instead ofa C, I made it a K, and that's

(01:01:02):
how that came about.
But you can find me across theboard.
I got four podcasts that I do.
You can find them Casting OverPodcasts Decked Up a Gaming and
Tech Podcast.
There's Podcasts Across Worldsdecked up a gaming and tech
podcast.
There's podcasts across theworld that I do with my partner.
And then there's also hold on,I'm sorry.
Then there's one that I'm onand off with called the best

(01:01:30):
damn podcast show period, whereit's just like unfiltered, we
talk about anything, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I like that one so that's, that's, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Uh, that's where you can find me, YouTube, Tik TOK,
all that stuff.
Just just search me up, You'llfind me man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Hell yeah, I do appreciate you coming on, dog,
thank you, thank you.
Shout out to chaos studios.
Thank you for the lovely beats,my man, and with that I'm Chris
, I'm the cow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Y'all completely screwed.
Oh no, y'all, that's right, Igot running back, running back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Take two, five, four, three, two, one, uh fuck, Uh,
studios.
Thank you for the lovely beatand, with that being said, I'm
Chris, I'm Mikkel and we outthis bitch.
Peace, peace.