Difference Between GF and Wife Behavior, Advocating on Committed Partnerships, and the Evolution of Personal Love Languages w/ Tia Mailani

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What happens when a driven Hawaiian model with dreams of becoming a pediatric oncologist opens up about love, cultural identity, and finding her match? Mailani Kekkuewa brings refreshing honesty to this conversation about navigating the modern dating world while maintaining ambitious career goals.

From representing indigenous women through pageantry to appearing in Disney+ and Amazon Prime productions, Mailani's multifaceted life offers unique perspectives on what truly matters in relationships. She shares how growing up primarily raised by women shaped her expectations, and why she's learned to seek partners who match or exceed her ambitious mindset.

The discussion takes fascinating turns through cultural dynamics of dating in Hawaii, the evolution of personal love languages, and why emotional intelligence has become her non-negotiable in potential partners. After experiencing relationships where she took on both masculine and feminine roles, Mailani explains her revelation: "The next man needs to put me in my feminine energy, because I'm tired of being both a man and woman in the relationship."

We dive deep into how therapy has transformed her approach to emotional baggage, the difference between girlfriend and wife behavior, and why she advocates for more committed partnerships over casual arrangements. Her story about meeting her current "reserved" California love interest organically (after swearing off dating apps) provides hope for authentic connections in our digital age.

Whether you're seeking insights on balancing career ambition with romantic fulfillment or simply enjoy candid relationship talk, this episode delivers wisdom, laughter, and compelling stories about finding your match while staying true to your cultural roots and personal goals. Subscribe now and join our growing community of relationship-minded listeners!

• Growing up in Kaneohe Kahaluu and maintaining strong connections to Hawaiian heritage
• Pursuing a degree in genetic cell and developmental biological sciences while studying for a real estate license
• Finding purpose in pageantry from age four and using it to represent indigenous women
• Working on various TV shows including Disney+'s Doogie Kamealoha and Amazon's I Know What You Did Last Summer
• Evolving from gift-giving to physical touch and words of affirmation as primary love languages
• Shifting from masculine energy to feminine energy in relationships
• Learning the importance of finding a partner with equal or greater ambition
• Prioritizing education before dating in high school to stay focused on long-term goals
• Dealing with emotional baggage through therapy and personal growth
• Distinguishing between girlfriend and wife behavior in relationships
• Moving away from small-town mindsets to find partners who match big goals

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Relationship Method
Podcast.
It's your boy, chris, and todayI have a lovely special guest
and she goes by Mylenni.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Mylenni Kek.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yay, yay, tia, my Lenny Keck.
Yay, welcome and thank you forComing on this Motherfucking
show.
I do appreciate you, girl.
Before we Start going in, howdid I get the yes from you?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I looked at your Previous podcasts and then also
I thought you were local also,if I wasn't local, it was a, it
was a deal breaker no, justbecause I feel like locals have
a certain amount of respect foreach other, uh-huh, so the vibe
is better, but also, like I saidbefore we started, your vibe is

(01:02):
very positive.
Oh, so I, of course, so I'mglad I said yes, oh well girl, I
acknowledge the compliment.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Thank you so, so much .
And girl, speaking of local,let me oh shit, oh, it's not
broken Insurance.
Speaking of local, and you andI talked prior to this shit.
Yeah, I do look local, local,but when I open my mouth it's a
whole, totally different scenedo I sound local to you?

(01:30):
Yeah, when you said to you yeahI heard that hoe the, the use
like um and don't take it thebad, don't take it a wrong way,
but it was like a.
It felt like it ended like aquestion.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
The emphasis yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, just like Hispanics, like when they talk
it was like da-da-da-da-da-daand I'm like oh.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I was like I always do like yeah no.
That's how I end a lot of mysentences, really, yeah.
Oh open-ended.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
My definition never ends.
Oh, it doesn't, it doesn't.
That's that Kaneohe education.
Oh girl, and where are youcoming from today?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm from Kaneohe Kahaluu Ooh yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Spell that the Kahaluu.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
K-A-H-A-L-U-U.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, see, you almost messed up there, I heard the K.
K, k.
So it's not K, it's K.
No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm notknocking, I'm not knocking, I'm
not knocking, I'm just sayingno, I heard it Like, I noticed.
I heard, yeah, I noticed, Iheard, yeah, the way I pronounce

(02:51):
my K yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,sounds uh, no, no, no, I'm not
again, I'm not knocking.
No, you're good, you're good,I'm finna get canceled.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Today we can dog on each other okay, cool, cool,
cool.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, don't get me going, girl.
Oh yeah, don't get me going.
Um, okay, so you're coming fromthat side, was it traffic?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
yes it took me an hour to get here what's the
usual time um, I come out herefor church so I go to waikele
inspire young adults and ittakes me, like during traffic
hour, like maybe 50 minutes, buttoday there was like three
accidents.
So it's like it's a saturday.
Why am I taking an hour to getto waipahu right now?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
right girl uh, back on the mainland um in california
, specifically when there was anaccident.
I'm one of those motherfuckersthat would like find the nearest
exit and just go home.
It kind of sucks because it'slike I'm missing out on
something.
But then I'm like man, fuckthis accident, I'm not wasting
any more time I'm taking myshoes off.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, also, traffic in California is bad as it is
already so putting an accidentin that is going to just add
like two hours to everything.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Facts.
You ain't lying Girl.
Are those eyes natural?
Yes, oh my God, y'allmotherfuckers Are in trouble.
I bet you Mama said I was likeGirl Daddy, gotta watch after
her, gotta watch after her.
I see a ring on your finger.

(04:16):
Does that mean anything?
Or is it just?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
This is a family heirloom.
Oh my god, that's cool this wasfrom my Grandfather to my
grandma, so every Birthday orholiday I get a new family
heirloom.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
They have a lot of jewelry like that.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, so my grandfather was kind of a thug.
I call him OG Papa because hewas down with the shit.
So he bought my grandma a lotof jewelry.
So I get, this is also well,this is from my great grandma,
but I have a lot of familyheirlooms on me right now.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's pretty.
You say great grandma.
So you met your great grandma.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I was alive with my great grandma before she
passed away.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Really, how old was your great grandma, if you don't
mind me asking when you met her?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
When I met her.
I don't mind me asking when youmet her?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
When I met her, I don't remember, oh, because you
know grandmas be like 20nowadays and great grandmas be
like 30, 40, you know my grandmaright now.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think she's going to be 71 this year 71?
.
Mm-hmm.
She is literally one of themost important people in my life
her and my mom.
Aw.
Yeah, they both raised me.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You were raised by women.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Cool, no man.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
My dad was dealing with his own stuff.
But now me and my dad have areally good relationship.
We put in the work to betterour relationship so I kind of
talk about it a little bit on mysocial media.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
But yeah, now I have a stepdad and dad and I will I
call my stepdad dad and my daddaddy.
Oh, oh, cool, hey, that's cool.
Um, I was raised, uh, by my dad, primarily, so, uh, yeah, oh,
my god, we're like kind ofvibing.
We're vibing my shit turned off.
Uh, pause, I'm going to let itrun.
Let me change the battery out.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Ain't that a bitch right?
We don't know when we got cutoff.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I know right, but I got this right here.
B-roll Whoa.
Oh my god, sorry, don't care,but sorry it happens.
You know Murphy's live.

(06:33):
Tony, expect theun-ex-motherfucking bitch.

(06:58):
Are you ready, ms Mai?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Cool, and there we go .
Oh, that's going to be an editfor sure.
Okay, cool.
And then you graduated highschool, I'm assuming right.
Are you going to school rightnow?
Yes, yeah, yes.
College, or is it like avocational training school?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So I'm studying for my real estate license.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Ooh, go ahead, girl Get it.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes, a vocational training school, so I'm studying
for my real estate license.
Go ahead, girl, get it.
Yeah, and I'm also at arizonastate university I'm studying um
genetic cell and developmentalbiological sciences.
Why that?
I want to be a pediatriconcologist, so it in order to be
, like, well prepared for medschool.
I wanted to go into a focussimilar to cancer research.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Word.
Hey, that's dope as hell.
You don't hear a lot of kidssaying, oh, I want to do, oh, um
, bio-nuclear physicist shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm just saying, yeah,you don't hear that stuff.
What road made you go there?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Growing up, I always had like I felt like it was a
calling, like from when I wasreally little.
I was put into pageants at fourand they used to do this thing
called career runway, Okay, andI think I was probably like four
or five in the picture, but I'mliterally holding a baby and
I'm in a doctor's outfit cuteand then when I was like 11 or

(08:30):
12, my auntie came down here andshe was getting treatment for
brain cancer, okay, so while shewas here I went to see her and
she was like you know be thechange that I would want.
So she's, you know, we'retalking about it and stuff and
she already knew that I wantedto be a doctor.
I wanted to be a pediatrician,just a basic, um, general care

(08:54):
provider.
And when she said that I wastrying to put the two together
and I was like I don't know if Ican deal with that though, like
like kids and cancer in one.
But then in high school I was inthe medical pathway in high
school too.
So they offered like additionaleducation for the medical

(09:14):
pathway and, yeah, we just cameup with the career of becoming a
pediatric oncologist.
I came up with that with mymain teacher for the courses.
Really.
Yeah, and honestly, it'ssomething that I never really
knew had like a title, because Iwas like, yeah, I want to be a

(09:36):
cancer doctor, but I was like,but I also want to be a doctor
for children.
So we just combined the two.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh, that's cool.
You had, I guess, a mentor tolook up to to do that.
Back in my day it was just moreof man.
I'm just trying to graduatehigh school.
Yeah.
So it's cool that you weresuper ambitious at a young age.
Was there times where you werelike yo fuck this, I'm not doing
this no more.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I had a lot of moments like that, but also
shout out to Miss Ueta forpushing me on this path.
Yeah, so when I was going, Iwas actually at Shamanan
University down here hey okay.
Yeah, and I had a full ridescholarship through the Ho'oulu

(10:22):
Scholarship Program and my firstyear, second semester, I ran in
Miss LaVite 18, usa, and I won.
So it was like I was balancingeverything plus being a pageant
girl.
And then I got COVID.
And that was exactly the sametime that we were going back in

(10:44):
person.
So I had to medically withdrawfrom that whole semester because
they weren't allowing me oncampus, because it was like the
peak of covid and they thoughtcovid lasted a month during that
time.
So I was like damn.
And then, you know, that momentI was like I don't even know,
like that's an extra semester tomy four years.
That means I have to pay out ofpocket for one semester
Chaminade's not cheap, you know.

(11:05):
And then my 2022, that's twoyears, my sophomore year or
junior year.
I got a concussion and I had tomedically withdraw for a whole
year.
Oh, damn.

(11:25):
So that's why after my fouryears so my scholarship was good
for four years.
But when they say it's good forfour years, it's good for that
amount of years from when youget it.
So I got it in 2020 and expiredin 2024 and I was already a
year and a half behind.
So, and then, on top of thatshaman, I'd added more, um, like
more courses that you needed tohave in order to graduate and

(11:48):
so that would have put me backtwo years.
so I was like that's six yearsin college and I was like I
don't know if I can do thisanymore.
And I was like at a point whereI was thinking, okay, I'm gonna
get my real estate license andif it takes off, then I'm just
going to take a break fromschool.
It's not like I'm not going todo that, because that's always

(12:10):
been my biggest goal in life isto become a doctor.
So I'm a first generation if Igraduate first generation
college graduate.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Wow, persistence is a motherfucker, ain't it?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
But I can't really say that because my stepdad got
his master's.
But before that, like in myimmediate family, like in my
bloodline, I would be the firstgeneration to graduate.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Hey, that's what's up .
A major accomplishment, hellyeah.
And this whole modeling, yeah.
Yeah.
This whole modeling thing.
You said you got on it wayearly.
Right, what kept you in it?
If you don't mind me askinglike, yeah, we're gonna get a
little deep here so dig, girldig when my dad was out of my

(12:57):
life.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I wanted something to do with my mom okay, so that we
could bond, and pageantry wassomething that I had an interest
in.
There was toddlers and tiarason tlc back in the day and I
used to and yeah.
So my mom put me in my firstpageant and it became something

(13:19):
where we could bond off of, andthen my love for being able to
pop to do public speaking likecame from that.
And then also being able torepresent indigenous women and
go to nationals where there'slike 50 to 100 other girls and
you're being able to speak foryour people, and I think that's

(13:41):
so important.
Visualization andrepresentation is so important,
so that's kind of what got meinto modeling was pageantry at
first, and then yeah, and thenalso being able to, you know, be
the representation for otherbrands native Hawaiians,
polynesians I think it's reallyunique how much talent comes

(14:03):
from such a small state.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Facts yeah, oh snap, whoa, whoa, I'm with a celebrity
.
Have you ever been on tv yet?
Yes, I have.
Oh my gosh, sign my bra, signmy drawers.
Girl, you said your bra, yougot a bra.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Why not?
A motherfucker can't have bra.
It's called a tube top.
No, but that's cool.

(14:30):
Wait like TV shows orcommercials.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is it a local TV show ?
Do you know the movie?
Well, you have kids, right?
Yeah.
Doogie Kamealoha on Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Dude, I tried getting them on here, but no, keep
going, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, and then I was also on.
I Know what you Did Last Summer, which was an Amazon Prime
special.
Shut your ass and then, likethroughout the years, I've been
on, like Hawaii Five-0.
Uh-huh, what other shows I mean?
I work with Hawaii Casting OnDemand.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Oh, okay, so that's a casting thing, so it's not you
going by yourself, it's themputting you out there.
Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
But it's technically freelance work.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
So it's not through my agency.
So I am signed with an agencybut I do a lot of freelance work
because I get to keep my 20%.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, dimes, dropping dimes.
Hey, that's what's up.
Girl.
Girl, I don't even know youlike that, but I'm super proud
of your achievements and shit.
Thank you so much.
Oh my gosh, you know what I'msaying.
You know what I'm saying, and alot of guys, girls too.
Are you single, taking,mingling, are you like app

(15:37):
dating?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I've never been on apps.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
She's organic y'all.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I mean, I downloaded Tinder once to find my ex
cheating on me, but I made thepicture him like it wasn't even
a real Tinder, it was fake, justto find him because I knew he
had it.
I found it in his emails, sothen I downloaded it just to see
it so I could screenshot it.
Anyways, I had to get my tweetsbut currently you're okay.

(16:09):
You're just okay.
Will he get?
I'm reserved right now.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
You're reserved on it guy girl guy okay, how am I
supposed to know?
I mean shit.
I mean not to, not to bag, butI mean you got pretty women into
.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I do have women in my DMs, though.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean shit, I got guys too.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Don't even worry about it oh, you know, when you
have the opposite sex in yourDMs then you're kind of
something like boost yourself up.
I kind of did something there.
Thank y'all.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I do appreciate you all and I'm glad that we still
connect.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
All love, but I am completely straight.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Hey, okay, so you're reserved right now.
Was this an organic meeting orwas he a friend?
First type of situation.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I went on a trip.
Okay, okay, okay, to Californiayou met him.
Okay To California.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You met him on an airplane.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
No oh.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I was going to say, ooh, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I met him organically .

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Okay, in Cali.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
At his job.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
He was serving you some Triscuits or some shit.
No, wait at a job.
Wait, cali, job At a stripjoint.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
We're not going to say too much, but it was a
regular job.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay, so you met him at his job.
He spit his shot, or you spityour shot.
Or was it just mutual?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I think it was mutual , but I was at his job for three
or four days straight.
And then the last day he waslike can I have your Instagram?
And I was like at his job forfour days straight, three or
four days straight, oh.
And then the last day he waslike can I have your instagram?
And I was like I was just aboutto ask you for your number, but
okay okay, um, I'm gonna rewindit back four days straight.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's a sign.
Yeah, okay, cool, he noticedthat sign um would nowadays is
asking for someone's instagram.
Is that like asking forsomeone's number?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
no no no, because no, a number is more intimate.
Yeah, yeah, so like I go out I,I go out with my cousin a lot,
um, and just to get us both outof the house because we're both
going through a lot, so to getout of the house, get out of
that headspace.
Um, when a guy asked me for mynumber, I go oh, I don't give

(18:29):
out my number.
Okay, here's my instagramrespectable but that's my way of
being like.
If you're gonna follow me oninstagram and I don't even like
you back, I'm not gonna followyou back oh you know, what I
mean like yeah, and then ifthey're asking if guys come up
to me, I'm normally really meanto them.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh, rbf, you got the face and you got the chin.
Yeah, ooh.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Because I don't like how pushy guys are in the
nightlife.
I'm just trying to vibe Like Ican be on the dance floor by
myself and I'm like breaking itdown, I'm skanking.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
And you come up to me and try to ruin my vibe?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Hell, no.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Oh no, it's a me time ?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh, definitely See, I would have done this.
I would be like, oh, first Itried to find out what you're
drinking, right?
And I'm like, hey, just get onefor her and that's it, that's
it.
And if you find me, and I'mlike, oh, my God, it worked.
And if it didn't, like, oh well, you know, there goes my eight
dollars, but hey, she's having agreat ass time.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I always tell everybody that I'm married when
I'm out exactly that's that way.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Perception a motherfucking perception is a
motherfucker you know what I'mmanifesting it though
manifesting getting married yeahby this reserved guy.
Oh my god, she's throwing itout there in the universe.
That's's fucking cool.
That's crazy.
She's going to have that whitecoat job.
She's going to be married.

(19:51):
Do you want kids?
Do you want a dog?
Are you a dog or a cat person?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm a dog person.
I have two dogs right now.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
What kind?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I have an English Cocker Spaniel he's a chocolate
liver and I also have a rescuethat I rescued from the Humane
Society when he was eight monthsold.
He only has half a brain.
He's a pity mix.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh shit, no way All small, because I don't know what
dogs you just named.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
My English Hucker Spaniel is like this big.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh, good size.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
He's like 20.
He ranges, he gains weight heloses weight.
You know he's like anywherefrom 21 pounds to 27 pounds yeah
and my pity is anywhere fromwell.
Right now he's 50 poundsbecause my mom won't stop giving
him treats I can see that mymom has her own dogs and she's
been feeding him snacks.
I'm like he's getting a littlethick.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I can't carry him anymore oh thick hell yeah, you
say half a brain, so like hecan't, your dog can't sit or
just can't follow simple demandslike what's cerebellar
hypoplasia?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
oh, yeah, he was born with half half a brain okay,
but functions like a normal dog,right I think he's more like a
rabbit.
He'd be humping things.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, like he hops oh, is he a three-legged dog?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
no, he got four legs oh but this motherfucker be
hopping this yeah, he'd behopping in the grass.
I'm like that's fun though.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Let a dog be a rabbit if he wants to.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
He said I identify as a rabbit right exactly girl,
okay.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So, um, we talk about like guys in the club, right?
So what's a um, what's a goodcasual, okay, you know what?
Fuck that um.
When I dm'd you to come on likehow did you take it as first?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I thought you were very respectful, oh um, very
professional and, to be honestwith you, I don't even remember
how I found your dm yeah because, like, I get a lot of inquiries
in my dms but I don't alwayssee them until later.
But I saw yours pretty quickly,oh shit.

(21:56):
I think within the week thatyou texted I saw it oh word,
okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Text gods the algorithm right, or maybe I was
on instagram oh yeah, at thattime, and it popped out the same
time yeah, wow, something likethat.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I can't remember what , so it was kind of a while ago
uh and it.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
So the dm didn't come off creepy or like who the fuck
is this cat?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
no, and I also did my vetting on you because because
I had a bad experience my firstpodcast, I wanted to make sure
you were legit uh-huh yeah ithelped that you look local okay,
cool, um down with the brown.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Hey, thank you tattoos.
You know what I'm saying thankyou brown skin popping?
Hell yeah my headphones falloff.
That's a first hell.
Yeah, right, in that way, okay,um so, uh, we'll get into these
questions now okay uh, sentfrom you know people that like

(22:52):
your shit.
Okay, um, as of right now,what's the worst male and female
fashion trend?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
you want to know something.
When I went on this trip thispast month, the california one,
yeah, okay.
I went to the mall and they'retrying to bring back the
knee-high converse lace-ups.
I've seen that that has got tobe the worst trend I've ever
seen.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Wait, is it teenagers and adults wearing them?
Because I think it looks cuteon little yeah, kids yeah, but
adults.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Adults.
What are we doing?
Why are we putting pants forour shoes?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
that's a good one.
That's a good one.
I like she a comedian too, girl.
So um that, and what else?
How about for guys?
What's up?
What's it like?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
guys be wearing those too.
I'm like, can we not?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
were they white people?
Of course y'all gotta step upbut y'all need to step down.
I got a third time man.
Hey, she wants to be a fuckingjamba juice on my daddy.
I'm getting that jamba juicetoday.

(24:05):
Okay, oh man, no, okay, uh.
Okay, give me another onebesides the converse high shoes
thinking wife beaters is afashion statement oh, like a,
like a guido wife beater, likeyou know from what's that show

(24:26):
Jersey Shore.
Like walking around In somejeans, in some, yeah, like why
are we Dressing like that?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
We have so many options now.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, like a white tee, right, like I like flossing
the white tee.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Can you dress Like Classy or, you know, sexy?
Like there's so many differentstyles.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, those are my two.
Ugh, like you know sexy, likethere's so many different styles
.
Yeah, those are my two.
Like Ugh Like dog, take backyour 1990s fucking doing, let's
come into 2K, right.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I'm like why are we missing a shirt to go over that
wife beater?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Right, oh my Lord, oh my Lord, mm-mm-mm.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Do better, y'all Do better, do Do better, do better,
okay.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Next question is has your love language ever changed?
Yes, yeah, mm-hmm.
Explain that.
So like what were you before?
And then what are you now?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Okay, growing up my mom's thing.
She never said I love you, wenever like.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Words of affirmation.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
No words of affirmation, no physical
touchation, no physical touch.
We've never hugged.
Oh well, now we do, because Iforce her to.
Can you love me or not?
Thanks, mom, but when I was inmy first relationship I thought
gifts were my, my receiving lovelanguage like you know, okay,
and also what my giving.

(25:43):
Love language is also giftgiving.
That has never changed.
But when I got into my secondrelationship I realized how
important being close to someonewas for me is that physical
touch?
yeah, okay um and also words ofaffirmation.
So everything that I waslacking in my childhood, that's
what I look for in myrelationships now.

(26:04):
Okay.
But I thought in the beginning,when I first started dating, it
was gift giving, both givingand receiving.
But it changed and I'm okaywith it.
I actually think, now that Ihave experienced two completely
different relationships, acts ofservice is really important for

(26:25):
me.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Acts of service For receiving yeah.
Oh, okay, acts of service likeputting gas in your, that's an
act of service.
Yeah, that's an act of service,huh.
Well, shit, I guess that's mylove language Giving, giving out
right.
Okay, so I used to be the wholephysical touch.
Yeah, because giving out right,so I used to be the whole
physical touch.
Yeah, because you know dadswill do that shit.

(26:47):
You know you and I talked.
I grew up in a daddy household.
My therapist says I have mamaissues, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
My therapist says I have parent issues, parent
issues.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, we'll get into it, that's a hyena.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I literally told him like I'm going to have to push
this mic away because I laughlike a hyena.
I used to tease my mom abouther laugh and now I got it, yeah
.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Hey, y'all got to watch Lion King.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
when they're laughing , I don't know what scene it is
what scar, yeah, when you'resinging his song.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Listen to that, and if you like her enough.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Run this back.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, oh my gosh, If I get like a DM saying you know
what?
I watched Lion King, I listenedto that.
She does sound like her, oh myGod, Okay.
So going back See the tangent,it was physical touch, but now
it's like dude, I want my space.
So it's more of a like at thismoment in my life it's like dude

(27:48):
, I want my space.
So it's more of a right like atthis moment in my life.
It's words of affirmation.
I love the, the literal thankyous, I appreciate you.
I was like oh my god, that shitwent, goes like it goes a long
way.
Especially like if kids don'tunderstand that and they're like
oh thanks, dad.
I'm like oh my god what do youwant I?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
feel like a lot of men need more words of
affirmation.
They say it's not their lovelanguage, but every guy
appreciates being appreciated.
Oh, facts.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
You have no idea.
I mean, everybody does right,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Men more, because I think, with all the new gender
roles switching and everything,a man being a man should be
appreciated and a woman being awoman should be appreciated and
a woman being a woman should beappreciated with the gender
roles and everything.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Oh yeah, hell yeah.
What do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
like now that um women are like being more
masculine something that I toldmyself because, um, you know, I
grew up with the gender roleschanging and everything.
Yeah.
So my first two relationships,or my first relationship, I was
very masculine.
Oh, really, I was the soleprovider, I did everything, plus

(28:55):
also have the female roles too.
So it was like Really I couldbe in a relationship by myself.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I was going to say that you took the words right
out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
And then my second relationship.
He did acts of service, but hisprimary love language was
physical touch and words ofaffirmation.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's the giving or that's the receiving.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
It was his receiving.
Got you, so that's what hewanted from me, and I lacked
that.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh, at that time.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it was a changing experience for me.
But yeah.
So when that changed, I was puta little bit more into my
feminine energy because he kindof did more things that I feel a
man should do.
And then when I broke up withhim, I told myself, if I ever
get into a relationship again,the next man needs to put me in
my feminine energy, because I'mtired of being both a man and

(29:51):
woman in the relationship.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Girl isn't it exhausting?
And I'm not just saying likeI'm a feminine or whatever, but
um, like being, like there's atime for a man to be sensitive
yes and but not too sensitive towhere it's just like you're
kind of losing your man card.
So with me, my wife gets on mea lot.

(30:12):
It's like, hey, why are youlike that with the kids when it
comes to disciplining?
And I'm just like yo.
That's why you're here to bethat soft.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
The caring.
Yeah, I know my role.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I got to be that, to be that soft, the caring.
Yeah, like I gotta like.
I know my role.
I gotta be the bad guy itfucking sucks but, I know that
role like there's somethingabout a man just being a kid and
it's like it's moreintimidating than oh, mama.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
You know, I was terrified of my mom growing up,
though oh girl, I could onlyimagine my mom is the most
masculine feminine woman you'llever meet.
She'll put you in your placedude.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Uh, I haven't met your mom yet and she will
already put me she will make youshit your pants.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh you better have, and she don't even need to whack
you she doesn't need to lay herhands on you, it's just her
mouth is dangerous oh really isthat why you get them?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
snaps, girl, we finna go at this.
I'm on ahead.
No.
But so in these relationships,right, did you have to like,
change yourself or anything tomatch what he liked, or whatever
?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think my first relationship I did I had never
been in a relationship beforethat and I started dating in
college.
I never dated in high school,oh really.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Hey, good for you.
Oh what, oh, excuse me.
Oh yeah, orange juice.
Um what, uh?
What made you not date in, uh,in high school?
Because you told me your ageand you didn't graduate high
school like, um yeah, okay, yousaid it all right, right.
Um, yeah, what made you notwant to date in high school?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
um, it was I think it was a team decision because my
mom was really strict and shetold me that she wanted me to
focus on my studies.
Um, and so I did.
And you know, I had some kindof somethings, little
situationships, and then my momwould be like hell, no, like you
need to focus on your studies,that's the most important thing.

(32:11):
And then I came to arealization like I'm not going
to graduate with my doctorateand be an actual doctor until
I'm 32.
I'm not going to jeopardizethis for a man or a boy at the
time, 16, 17.
You know, 14 to 18.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Like I'm not going to waste my time doing this now.
I want to be able to have thelife that I want, like I want
the white picket fence.
I want a ranch.
That's my dream.
I want a ranch.
Do you know how expensiveproperties out are here?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, I mean not if you go to like Wisconsin or Texas.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
No, I want to stay here, oh, okay, well, not stay
here, like I would move placesthroughout my life, but I want
to raise my kids where there'sroots and I want my kids to
learn the mother tongue and liveon the motherland.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
What's the mother tongue?
Hawaiian oh son of a oh, I'mgetting educated, thank you,
thank you, thank you, oh okay,uh, what were you talking about?
Oh yeah, dating in high schoolso that our side quests are
crazy today, oh, it is.
I told my daughter that too,like not to uh date in high
school.
I told her to have fun.

(33:20):
So like, don't like be helddown by one guy.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Have lots of guy friends, don't be a hoe, but I
mean I think, you need to scareher my mom scared me so much
like my story how did she scareyou?
She drilled me from when I wasin elementary school and she
told me men will always be thereoh, that's always be there and
she, even to this day, is likeyou don't really need a date,

(33:47):
you can find your husband whenyou're 50, like me.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I'm like oh wow okay, I, I want to have kids, though,
yeah mom, there's a, there's atime clock, there's a biological
time clock, yeah, like I wantto have kids, and then I think
about it a lot and I'm likemaybe I should just freeze my
eggs.
Can you do that?
Yeah, how long does an embryostay frozen?
Until it expires?
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Girl you're I just started thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
She's the one in college and she don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I don't know how long you can freeze an embryo, but
Could be a while I don't know.
I don't even know how longsperm lasts in the sperm bank.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I don't even know either.
Never been to one.
I've always wanted to rightLike I need a good chunk of
change right now.
Let me throw out some goddamn.
Did you know?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
that you get paid out so much money for donating your
eggs.
But also, I don't want to havekids running around.
I want my kids to be my kidsand I want to be able to carry
them.
Wait, I don't want to have kidsrunning around.
I want my kids to be my kidsand I want to be able to carry
them.
Wait, hold up.
Do you know how much?
I think it's over $50,000 forone egg To give out my.
Oh for guys, I think it's thesame.
I think it's the same.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Would you ever be a surrogate?
Wait, wait, wait.
Did I use that word right?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Okay, yeah, would you ever?
I think it depends on theperson.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, so like I have a lot of, like gay besties and I
think I would oh for them.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, what a good heart.
You have a big heart.
All that bullshit, you knowwhat I'm saying.
No, that's good, but like toeven think of you know like?
Oh, my gay Bessie, like I knowhe can't procreate Shit, I'm
going to do him this solid.
I mean, you're going to be inthat little kid's life too.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Regardless.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah yeah.
Hey, that's what's up Look atyou.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Maybe he could find someone to give like, find
someone to give like so they canmake a baby and then they can
put it inside of me.
Oh, like a.
Oh okay, because I don't knowif he would.
You know, like all my gay bestfriends, like I'm, I don't know
if you want to have my genetics,because then your kid's gonna
come out a little too snappy foryou oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Speaking of, it's crazy how you could kind of sort
of like make your own littlething to go in, like you could
uh, oh, I want this person tohave blue eyes, then you can put
that in, that's not they'retrying to start having like a

(36:20):
lab surrogate, so it's just likelike a chicken egg uh-huh and
you just make the baby in thelab.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
And I used to make jokes about this all the time
growing up because I told mymama okay, well, if I'm not
gonna date now, like I don'teven think I'm gonna get married
, I don't know if I want to havekids, like I always been on the
fence about it yeah and I waslike, okay, you know what?
I don't even want to have kids.
And then we started makingjokes that, well, well, because
I'm going to be a scientist, Ican just make my own clone in

(36:47):
the lab.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Clone of yourself.
Yeah, like a daughter.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Uh-huh Like have a baby with myself.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
How sick would that be?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Okay, well, honestly, I wouldn't do that, because
imagine me fighting with myself.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
All right.
Oh my gosh, you got two hyenaslaughing.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
We got two spicy little chicks, two spicy
motherfuckers holy crap girl.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Let me ask you this in high school were you ugly,
did you bloom late or were youalways like looking the way you
look in high school throughoutnow?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I feel like I had a glow up after high school, but I
also't a glow-up after our highschool, but I also had a
glow-up in high school.
Okay, but like whenever I asked, like my friends are like,
you've always looked the sameyou just a little less makeup,
but you've always looked thesame oh, okay but yeah, I, I was

(37:43):
bullied in school.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
You were bullied, bullied, oh, bullied Heavily.
Sorry guys.
Oh really, is it because youwere short skinny, is it?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
because you had a mean old accent.
No, so I went to school atCastle High School, which is in
Kaneohe.
Okay.
And the east side is verycountry, very rugged.
I mean I grew up with mostlyboys.
I don't have, like, any cousinsthat are girls that are the
same age as me.
They're either younger or wayolder.
So I was teased for being sowhite.

(38:24):
Like white as in, not tanned orwhite, as in like my skin color
is very white.
Oh dang you pasty.
Yeah, and that's just becausemy mom well, my dad, when I was
younger he was the beach goer.
My mom doesn't know how to swimoh what, I know what to buy.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Mom, was there some floaties?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
so it was kind of difficult and she always told me
like it's better for you not togo to the beach because you're
gonna get skin cancer, like mymom's always like your skin,
your skin, your skin is soimportant like I don't want you
to have um skin spots, like meand grandma.
And so, yeah, she always toldme I couldn't go, and now I have
the time, or I am allowed to,but I don't have the time to

(39:07):
yeah, whoa, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, um, bullying nowadays compared to back in
days, it's ruthless now becauseof the internet, you know,
because back in the day it'sjust in that town, in that
school.
Now, man, you got motherfuckerslike that.
Don't even help the person.
So, it's like it's going viral,and it's a small island too.

(39:30):
So if that person goes to someother side rather than theirs,
it's like oh man, you're thatperson.
It's like fuck you know.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I also think bullying has switched.
You know how back you'd hearabout people getting teased for
being fat and ugly.
It's shifted and I feel like alot of the negative energy, like
even hearing my little cousinscoming back from school and
they're telling me what happened.
I'm like it's because you'repretty, like my little cousins
are beautiful, and I'm like howare you guys getting bullied by?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
people that should be the being bullied, like the
people that should be bulliedare bullying.
Huh, that's crazy.
I'm like.
It's like it's flip-flopped,flip-flopped, yeah, yeah, whoa.
Um, I mean, pretty people gotfeelings too.
Let's just, let's just be,let's just be nice all around.
All right, miss my um.
Okay, has this ever happened toyou?
Um, have you ever liked?
All right, ms Mai?
Okay, has this ever happened toyou?
Have?
You ever liked someone afterhaving a conversation.

(40:34):
Yes, oh, was this reserved?
Yes, oh, how about beforereserved.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I was talking to someone but it was because he
was like consistent.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I don't think it was one conversation though, so with
reserve guy it was like thefirst conversation that we had.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I was like something's different.
He's also not from here andI've never dated anybody from
outside of Hawaii.
He's a Cali boy.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
LA kid hell yeah, that's Cali.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Motherfuckers boy, you don't play around, let's
hope when this goes online.
Oh yeah, that it's still athing yeah right, imagine I'm
like talking all those goodthings about him.
He's like gone with the wind.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Hey, chris, I need you to edit that whole piece all
questions I need that bitchgone.
Yeah, so did he have like themad mannerisms, like was he very
chivalrous and everything wheny'all were speaking.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Very gentleman, very demure.
Oh, very eloquently spoken Verycutesy.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, oh, hey, I'm happy Again.
I'm happy for you for findingpeople, or a person, because
it's hard to find someone thatmatches your feng shui.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I think my feng shui has changed a lot.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Did it from back in the day to now.
It's growth.
What made you say that?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
My type used to be local boys here.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yoda.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Actually, none of the guys that I've dated had
Toyotas.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Oh civics?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
No, my first ex had all kinds of different race cars
.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Oh, like a Nissan or a Toyota.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
MR2?
.
The way he hooked me was he hada Mustang.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
A-okay muscle car.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
And then we had different sports cars together
after that.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Oh cute.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
And then my second ex .
He just had a regular shmegularcar.
I don't even remember what itwas.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Oh, probably a Jetta.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Oh, okay, a Hyundai.
Maybe, One of them,motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Maybe one of them, motherfuckers Maybe.
I don't remember, but mygodmother, my mom's half-sister,
she passed away last year andafter her funeral her husband
wrote a letter and my mom readit before I did and she's like,

(43:05):
oh, you should read that letteron the uh refrigerator, it's
from your uncle, ed, he's mygodfather and I was like okay,
started reading it, I startedcrying and it was like right
after I was trying to get toknow someone didn't work out.
It was after me and my second exbroke up.
So I'm kind of like in thislimbo and I'm like I don't even
really want to date.
And then this random guy islike making me feel incompetent

(43:30):
and I'm reading this letter andthen I'm sitting on the kitchen
floor, my mom comes, she sitsdown with me and she goes.
You need to find a guy thatwill take care of your mind over
your body.
You know, and I think that's soimportant is like when a man
takes care of a woman's mind,she steps into her femininity

(43:52):
and she can truly be herself andbe happy, and that's what I
think shifted my feng shui oh,thank you, uncle ed Ed.
Holy crap, he was such a goodhusband and he's very
emotionally intelligent, andthat's what I want to find in a
man is the emotionalintelligence that it takes to be

(44:14):
a husband.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
So if the reserve guy Callie, how is this
long-distance thing working outfor you then?
Right now, current.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
So I've never done long distance before, so it's
very different, um, but I'm justtrying to live in the moment
good, hey, that's good.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
So it's a lot of texting and facetiming we don't
facetime oh girl, she's a texterI actually am not.
I hate texting but really we'rereserved, I will you text,
you're more of a phone person.
I am girl.
Me too, I love phone calls metoo.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
You know why?
Because we can go on differenttangents all the time, just like
this, like the octaves, youcould tell like okay okay, tone
is so important.
Yes, you know why?
Because, like, when you're on aphone call, it could could last
hours, but one text.
I'll leave that shitundelivered.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
For like two weeks.
I'll be like oh sorry, I wascaught up with something for two
weeks.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Ain't it crazy.
I'm like that too when it comesto text Like oh man, my bad.
I thought I replied.
Yeah.
But you know you pass it.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Oh no, I know, oh okay.
Well, we're both differentpeople there, mm-hmm, and I
leave that on read too.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I'm like, okay, let me think about this, and then I
forget about it, and then youforget right?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Oh gosh Us humans, with our attention spans.
It went from like 45 secondsdown to 15, down to five.
I'm like holy crap.
You know why?
Because of this oh, the deskgirl yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
You're like oh, I don't like this video next.
Oh, I don't like this videonext.
You do that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Do you read books?
I do, oh my gosh, me too.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I love poetry books.
Poetry Okay, and also likesci-fi, I like murder mystery.
I like murder mystery.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I like that one that's more me Murder, mystery
and sci-fi as in like fantasyshit no.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Or sci-fi, as in like space.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
No space scares me.
Okay, we'll get back to thatone.
Okay, well, maybe like fantasystuff.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
You know, like the Stranger Things, kind of like in
that genre oh, okay, likemonsters and stuff, oh or like
horror books are pretty freakingdope.
I used to love watching horrormovies and then when you start
reading it, it's like you almostcause yourself to shit.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh snap, let me ask you this my wife hates this of
me.
Before I go to sleep, I watchlike a suspense horror movie.
Do you do that?
Or does that give you like sometype of like the fuck, I'm
trying to sleep, man.
I sleep to true crime.
Okay, is true crime like bad?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
good.
True crime is like.
What is true crime?
Break that.
Jeffrey Dahmer killed X amountof people and this is how he did
it.
Oh, that's true.
He cut, cut them up, put themin you know tubs and put them in
his room.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
They're in his floorboards, like you know, does
that make a cycle for likingshit like that?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
like I love that stuff I want to speak on behalf
of women women have a weirdinterest in murder and I think
for me I got into it to be moreaware.
So I first started listening totrue crime.
So that because I know I wantto travel the aware.
So I first started listening totrue crime.
So that because I know I wantto travel the world and I know
how dangerous it is out thereyeah but how dangerous.

(47:31):
And then, because of that, itpiqued my interest.
And why do people think thatway?
How do they get so fucked up tothe point where they're
murdering people left, right andcenter?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
yeah, oh, um, I don't know, but uh, yeah, no, that's
just crazy, holy crap.
Well, as for guys, um, I'mgonna speak for like 95 of us
five percent yeah, fuck y'all,but um for the 95.
Uh, we just like that shit it's.
It's also my exes thought itwas weird, oh really yes, yeah,
fuck y'all.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
That's a five percent right there.
No, you'd have one percent ohone yeah, because 99% of men
like it.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
huh oh word oh, okay, yeah, 99.
Yeah, okay, okay, I'll takethat Bitch, ate one.
Bitch ate one.
No, but I like that shit andI'm really into the paranormal.
I love that, oh my God, oh myGod, like when I deep, I went to
like a little rabbit hole whenI found out of the night

(48:27):
marchers on here on the island.
I was like that's fuckingradical.
You know, like I want to seeone, but then I know I'll die so
I don't want to see one.
So I want to have like a cameraon top of my head, so I really
want to see one.
But, oh my gosh, yeah, I likethat shit.
Yeah, I have, yeah, I I do haveto say be very worried about

(48:49):
messing with hawaiian spirits.
Oh, yeah, dude, uh, someonetold me about the, uh the the
black santa, like bringing arock home or whatever, because,
um, uh, being in the military,we go to, uh, the big island a
lot black sand beach yeah.
so I'm just like, ah, this isfucking cool, because I've never
seen that shit in my life.
So, like man, I want to bring,like you know, a Ziploc bag,
bring that motherfucker home andone of the little containers,

(49:11):
though, yeah.
One of the locals was like no,don't do it.
I'm like, ok, you know whatDifferent story I'm going to,
we'll get back to that one.
So I left it Right to that one.
So I left it right and then hetold me the whole story.
I was like huh and then therock, and then bringing the rock
, the lava rocks, I was likeholy crap.
And then um, yeah, I can't saythat, pele.

(49:33):
And then, um, they told me astory of how someone brought
home a rock on a flight fromthat island to wahoo and that
person person either got supersick or he died and I was like
gotta be a motherfuckingcoincidence.
But then it happened again,where the person got sick.

(49:53):
I was like, ooh, heebie-jeebies, I ain't handling that shit at
all.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Good decision to not take home, oh my gosh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
So I was like mm.
Respect that fucking land.
Ooh girl, what does?

Speaker 2 (50:07):
that mean.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Take care of the land .
Huh, are you fluent in theHawaiian?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
language.
No, I'm trying to become fluent.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, can you like say like the regular things,
like, oh, how's your food?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
No, Well, you doing no.
Well, I can say that shit in.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Spanish¿ Cómo te llamas Me?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
llamo Chris Me llamo Tia, me llamo Tia, me llamo Tia,
me llamo Tia, me llamo Tia.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Me llamo Tia Me llamo Tia Me.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Llamo Tia Me llamo Tia.
Oh well see see, I think if Ihad to get fluent in a language,
I think I could probably do itfaster in Spanish over Hawaiian.
Hawaiian is very.
The words almost look exactlythe same, almost sound exactly
the same, but have completelydifferent meanings.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Is it like the octaves of your voice that makes
it?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
No, it's the different, like kaha kos and
okinas, it's like apostrophes,okay.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's what apostrophes mean Kahakos.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Kahakos is the line that goes over a letter.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Oh, didn't know that Cool Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
And then okina is apostrophes.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Oh, okay, Okay oh interesting.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
This is like a pbs uh podcast today.
Thank you for tuning in.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Okay.
Next question how and whyemotional baggage can ruin a
relationship so we kind of weregetting into this before.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, I'm in therapy and it's not weird, right like I
feel like everybody shouldexperience.
Give it at least like threesessions to really see how it
changes your life and how youcope with things.
So emotional baggage it cancome from like childhood trauma.
It can come from pastrelationships, friendships,
anything, because anything canbreak your trust and hurt you.
Anything can, yeah, anyone can.

(52:04):
So it's all about like tryingto process that, deal with it
and take the good from the badand then you know, start that
bad memory for a lesson.
But I think when you bringbaggage into a relationship, it
either makes or breaks yourrelationship.
You're signing somebody else upto deal with you didn't deal

(52:26):
with yeah facts so that's kindof how I see it ah, I think
everyone has baggage, likeeveryone.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
It could be baggage from work relationship,
parentals, what have you.
I just think it's the person onhow he or she deals with it.
Oh yeah, you know, like.
You know, like some people, Idon't know, it's kind of bad,
they're like risk takers, theywould do that.
Or if, like, if you're a manicdepressant, it would be spending

(52:56):
like six grand on a fucking onsome clothes on Amazon or some
shit, you know.
So there's ways in likehandling baggage.
I'm definitely a shopaholic inthat sense.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Are you really I spend so much money when I'm
going through stuff?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
You don't eat ice cream or whatever you don't eat,
you're a spender.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
I'm a spender and I'm a traveler.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Oh, so you'd be booking trips.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
But, then, that's both spending money and being a
traveler.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Really, really Personal question what like the
highest bill, like your spendingbill, when you were like going
through, yeah, like when you'regoing like one episode, what was
the highest?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
like one day.
One day like one trip to onestore yeah, like you're.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
You're just down in the dumps and then you're just
like fuck it.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Spending 5K One day Less than six hours.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
One store or several stores.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I think it was like three.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Three stores, huh Wow .

Speaker 2 (54:01):
What'd you get?
I was at Gucci and I boughtthat gucci.
I think it was gucci.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I bought shoes gucci shoes like the heels, no shoes
like sneakers.
You bought gucci sneakers.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, okay, okay um, and then, like sephora, will
always run me a big bill, butit's a part of job, so it's
technically a write-off.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
But yeah, that bill is always like.
I can run up that bill to atleast two grand by itself.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Sephora.
Yeah, were you ever a Macperson?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, so I actually grew up.
My mom was working at Mac whenI was little, so I would go to
work with her.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Aw, my wife was a Mac girl.
She works at Sephora now, wink,wink, nudge, nudge.
It's like hey, is your man,chris?
Yeah.
Girl.
Hook it up, girl Hook it up.
Sis, sis.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah, and what was the third store?
I think it was Zara Clothingstore.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Oh okay, do they sell men's stuff there?
Well, I guess I just don't knowwhat zara is.
Cool, cool, cool, all right.
Next question um oh, girlfriendversus wife behavior.
Um, okay, you're not a wife.
Is there a difference betweenthe two or are they like

(55:26):
coincide?
Are they the same?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
no, they're, they're completely different I agree,
wife, I think.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Uh, girlfriends, I think it depends on what kind of
girl more like, morestandoffish, I think wife is
more willing to she's, she'swilling to take an l, I think.
But girlfriend, no, I'm gettingthis dub either way.

(55:55):
I'm going out with the girls ohyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or
whatever.
I'm getting my drink, I'mgetting this win opposed to
marriage.
It's like okay um, I'm glad wetalked okay, but then you know
of course gotta give them spacebecause you're gonna be mad and
shit.
But yeah, girl and wifebehavior totally, totally two

(56:18):
different things, as opposed tomen and boy behavior.
I'll break that shit down toyou Boy getting in a fight with
a woman go fuck a thing, men.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Or fuck off from their girlfriend and not talk
about it and communicate abouttheir emotions.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
That's men that went through therapy.
I can speak effectively bycommunicating.
There's a lot of pauses thereby communicating.
There's a lot of pauses there,men, we go to our friend's house

(56:58):
and we just look at a fuckingTV screen and make like this
happens to me a lot with my wife.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
She thinks that I go out partying or whatever, but
I'm actually at a friend's housejust watching like ESPN house,
just watching like espn.
I hope my future husband hasfriends that he can call to our
house and have thoseconversations.
Wait, what?
What about your feelings?
Talk about your feelings withsomebody else.
If you don't want to talk aboutit with me, talk about with
somebody else, because yeahcommunicate your feelings and
get it off your chest oh yeahperspective if you need it.

(57:22):
But I think communicating yourfeelings is so important, no
matter if you're a girlfriend ora wife or a boyfriend or a
husband, like.
When you first asked me thatquestion, I was thinking like
how people move right.
So as a girlfriend, like if youhave a girlfriend mindset, you

(57:43):
really don't care, you're to begoing out and doing all kinds of
stuff, and I see that a lot inthis generation.
See what.
The girlfriend behavior ratherthan wifey behavior.
When I'm in a relationship.
I'm so locked down I'm ahopeless romantic.
Oh my gosh.
My mom tells me that all thetime she's like you're so in
love with the idea of being inlove and loving someone.

(58:04):
Oh, that's beautiful, um, goodjob, mom.
When I'm in a relationship withsomeone, it's like I literally
don't even have friends like Ijust I just want to be with you
all the time like clingy.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
No, okay, thank god, I want my air to breathe too
yeah yeah, but you just want tobe in that energy and that Okay.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I like being loved on and I like loving someone
Uh-huh.
But I think from my lastrelationship I see how important
it is to have the balance oflike yes, you can be loving
someone.
But also have your friends, butmake sure they're positive
friends and not girlfriendbehavior.

(58:48):
Friends like those girls bedoing anything and I'm like my
man's at home, like I don't evenwant to be here.
How does one like a female, howdoes how?

Speaker 1 (58:58):
does one deal with that?
When your girls are like thatand you, you are like this most
settled down one, do you justnot hang out with them anymore
and find a new set of friends?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I've had one best friend for almost 10 years now
and we've always been pretty insync.
But what's weird is whenevershe's in a relationship, I'm not
, and when I'm in a relationshipshe's not, but we're both like
the friends that if we ever getinto a relationship, that person
will always trust us with eachother because she's all she's

(59:31):
honestly my platonic wife likeif I was a guy I wouldn't marry
her oh that's.
That's my wifey right there oh,okay, okay, yeah, hey, congrats
to, you girl holy crap, um, butyeah, so she's my most like down
bad in the most respectful wayand then I have like friends

(59:52):
that I can do, like go out with.
I have friends that I can go tochurch with.
I have friends for differentthings.
So obviously, like, if I'm in arelationship I'm not gonna be
hanging out with like my ragerfriends yeah but I have like
friends that I know are therefor life and not just for a
season oh, wow

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
that was a that was a snapple cap whoa because you
know, do you know?
Do you know why I brought thatsnap?
No, okay, because okay, I'llbreak that down.
Snapple caps right um when you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Oh, it's on the back of the Snapple.
Yes, the Snapple.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
You get a factoid or whatever.
Yeah, I dropped my dime on hertoo.
Okay, so can you ever trustyour man with your friends?

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Hands down 100%.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, me too.
Me too I could trust my set ofdudes with my wife, like if my
wife ever went, like let's say,Certain friends I should
rephrase that Certain friends,yes, but I do have some wild
friends that I think that wouldtry If they got too drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It might lead to other things.
Oh, because.
I do have some friends that getlike blackout drunk and I'm
like taking care of them becauseI'm normally the sober friend
yeah so yeah, are you always asober one 99 of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yes oh, that's good.
Well, thank you one percent,you know the one percent.
Thank you 1%, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
The 1% get down in 30 .

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Oh shit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
But that's like very, very, very rarely.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Oh, okay, yeah, how does a man or a woman handle,
like, how do you handle yourarguments?
The little ones, though not abig one, but the little ones
like uh, okay, you know what,why didn't you take?
Out the trash like that, yeah,yeah, that type of shit, because
I have a story okay, I wouldlike your opinion on it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Okay, um, you know, say it once.
If you don't do it, say itagain.
You don't do it.
And then you say you keepreminding me like a mother.
Oh, okay.
And then I'm like, okay, well,maybe you should do it, just
without me asking.
Uh-huh.
And then if it becomes likestill a thing, I'm like whatever

(01:02:12):
and I walk away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Never bringing it back up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
No, no, unless you do it again.
Then, bro, take out the trash.
Ah but my big fights.
I talk like this, Very calm.
I don't scream unless it'ssuper, super heated.
It takes me a while to getriled up.
Before I was like a firecracker, but now I'm a little bit more
cool calm and collected.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Past you, firecracker .
Now that you're educated, wentto therapy.
You're cool.
I've been in therapy since Iwas four, so I don't really know
what the therapy is.
Okay, well, you now living.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
You're cool as a kumbha yeah, Kumbha, yeah,
kumbha.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah, she knows where to go, bro Kumbha.
Okay, let me tell you my story.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
So the other night, it's a vent sesh now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Oh, it's a vent sesh now, oh yeah, well, not a vent
sesh, but I think it's a funnystory.
So my wife and I we're in ourroom.
I see her Hello Kitty clip onthe bed.
All right, I tossed it softlyonto the dresser.
She flips out and is like whatthe fuck you did that for?

(01:03:24):
I was like do what?
Why'd you throw my clip likethat All hard?
I was like no, no, no, no, no.
I tossed it softly.
Hard is overhand, throw Softlyis like I'm.
You know it was an underhand.
A fairy throw Super fairy.
Oh my gosh, I'm talking aboutlike duane, the rock johnson and
tooth fairy movie type fairy.

(01:03:45):
You know what I'm saying.
So it was soft as shit.
She got on, oh my god.
So she started throwing mythings around right, but it
wasn't one of those like tantrumthrows right, like she would
see she was like playing aroundabout it I hope so at that time
and moment I really hope so Icouldn't tell.
I've been with her for so longthat sometimes I'm just like,

(01:04:06):
okay, so playfully, this is me.
It could be like her likethrowing a tantrum, but me I
thought she was just playingaround, she just she.
She flipped, uh, she flipped avideo game cover.
She threw my blanket to my face, uh, she threw a pillow at my
face and I was like, oh, thankyou.
Like with the pillow and theblanket, I was like, oh, thank

(01:04:27):
you, cause I'm fitting to liedown, I'm fitting to snooze.
And she was like, um, I didn'tlike how you threw my shit like
that.
And I told her.
I was like, oh well, you knowwhat?
I apologize, I didn't mean foryou to take it that way.
I did to me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I thought I tossed it softly the quick recovery of
that apology hands down.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Oh, thank you, he's a husband, everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
In case you were wondering, he's married and he
has kids.
Here's a practice Get your asshands, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Oh yeah, you hear that bitch.
You hear that bitch.
No, but so she after Iapologized she's like no, I
don't want your apology.
I was like, well, you know what,that that's all you're gonna
get for me, because I don'tthink I did anything wrong.
I was like, granted, I couldhave walked my ass over to the
dresser and fucking put it down.

(01:05:21):
But I mean, I have pretty goodaim.
I'm an athlete.
I could fucking toss it and notbreak anything.
That's what that was like my,so she kept on going that whole
night and maybe there wassomething else maybe you know
what maybe bothering her underher skin, and it couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
It might have not even been from you, but maybe
she was just dealing with alittle extra stress that day and
that was a tipping point forher yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
So I did the right thing by keeping my mouth shut.
I was like, okay, I apologize,and she would keep on going and
going going.
I let her like go at me forlike a good 10 to 15 minutes
before I was like yo, I said Iapologize, I don't know what
anything else you need?
Do you need some water oranything?
Because I'm fitting in a laydown.

(01:06:06):
It's like no, I just don'taccept your apology.
I was like, okay, well, In thatcase.
I apologize.
I was like you know what you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
apologized, but you could also say like well, if you
want to take a break, come backto this conversation when
you're ready to talk and readyto accept my apology tomorrow oh
, okay, well I I started fallingasleep, so I honestly don't
know how your wife is.
I mean she could be like afirecracker yeah and, in that
sense, like it passed me.
Oh, I'll just keep going.

(01:06:36):
I don't care if you're talkingto me or not, I'm just gonna
keep going because you pissed meoff that much yeah but it
couldn't even like.
What I'm saying is it mighthave not even been you what she
was like actually, whateveremotion she was feeling yeah,
yeah, no I understood that, likethe day after.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Like I was like you know it could have been
something else.
But at that time, one point, um, my therapist told me like I
could only control how I reactand how I think, yeah, so if I
don't have anything else to say,just shut the fuck up.
And I was like, yep, I justshut the fuck up.
And the next day I mean we'realways cool like we never got

(01:07:12):
into a spat where I'mmotherfucking leaving you oh
yeah, your dick small, this andthere, well, your fucking your
underboob smell like fuckingpopcorn.
Shut the fuck up.
You know what I'm saying.
It never went into that shit,but it's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Um, I thought it was funny because I mean, I guess in
a long term relationship likethat, you do need those little
fights to like keep you know,spark, yeah, some type of spark,
yeah, yeah because ifeverything is good, all the time
there's somebody biting theirtongue Because you said you've
been with her for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah, been married 11 and been together for like some
change.
I ain't going to say thespecific number because if I get
it wrong, that's my ass, so I'mjust going to leave it at.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
You've been married for 11 years 11 years.
Yeah, so you guys are going togo through like growth pains.
Yeah, you know you guys aregoing to have to change and
evolve with each other as youguys get older and are together
for a longer period of time.
So, granted, you guys are goingto get in some more of those.
Yeah.
Oh okay, Keep the spice.
Keep the spice alive.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Hell yeah, you know, do it with one sock on baby,
yeah one sock with one earringon we straight.
All right, keep that spicealive.
Ah damn, ah damn.
My became, she became mytherapist.
She get paid though whateverthat shit oh my god, my one,

(01:08:41):
last one.
I know, right last one.
Um, oh, you talked about thatshit um advocating for more
husbands and wives, less babymamas and baby daddies, please I
fucking agree, please, pleasecan we because?

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
in hawaii.
Do you know how common it isfor parents not to stay together
?
Dad beat mom, dad beat dad.
You know, and I'm like let'stry and make the next generation
better yeah let's all bepresent for the kids.
Let's try to.
Why don't you guys date beforeyou guys have kids?

(01:09:22):
Sometimes, sometimes.
I'm just like why y'all justand having kids?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
I mean yeah, yeah, right, like why?
What's so hard and this mightget a little nasty what's so
hard like pulling out, I meangoddamn, or wearing a condom,
right, like, yeah, right, right,come on.
Come on, let's just be real.
You have less baby mamas.
You have less baby daddies.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Practicing abstinence .

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I'm saying yeah, practicing abstinence.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Yeah, that's fucking, that's great too.
But yeah, less baby mamas, lessbaby daddies.
Why do you think people aren'tcommitting to that next step,
that marriage level?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
what I've noticed about I want to say, like the
age ranges of, like, oh, age 22to 28, 22 to 28, okay, people
have a hard time committing,they have commitment issues you
think it's the internet or doyou think it's the?

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
they their hype men saying, man, you could do
fucking better no, because Ithink they expect themselves to
be well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Let's say this because you know I've been.
I was trying to date a littlebit in the very beginning of
this year.
Um, some guys want to be moresuccessful before getting
together, or they want toexperience more life, or they
want to be free, or a lot ofthem are getting out of
long-term relationships andthey're just not ready to commit

(01:10:51):
again facts that last one issuper factual, because I know a
lot of guys that's been divorcedand the people that they try to
see next it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Uh, when something goes wrong, it's like, I guess,
to them it's like it's a redflag trigger yeah, that's what I
meant, yeah it's a trigger andit's oh, I've been through this
before.
I know I've experienced it.
I'm not going through it againnext, you know.
So I I've, uh, yeah, I've seenthat hurting but I was just.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
That's why I'm just done dating people in hawaii, to
be honest, because it's thesame conversation, it's the same
what's your favorite color?
And then bullshit happens.
After like a month or twomonths I'm like, all right, I'm
done with this.
Gotta try something new thatmight be better for me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
That's good.
It's sad how the conversationstarts like that, like, oh,
what's your favorite color?
I like to go fucking deep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
No, because if you're going to get deep with me,
you're not leaving my life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Oh, okay, you're going in my basement.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
It better be a goddamn major,okay, well, you're going in my
basement.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I'm just kidding I've been having some deep
conversations, but what I'velearned is the people here, the
guys here, make great friends tome, but I won't date you guys
anymore.
I'm over it, that's yourdisclaimer folks there is your
disclaimer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Sorry folks, there is your disclaimer.
Sorry guys, do better.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
The men here also have small, small town mindset.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Oh, facts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
You know what I mean.
And I want a man that has goalsthat are bigger than mine.
My mom always tells me you needto be with a man at the same
level as you, if not higher,because my goals are so out
there.
That's not.
My only goal is to become adoctor.
I have so many goals for mylife and my mom always tells me
if you're not with a guy thathas the same like mindset, the

(01:12:52):
same hustler mindset, or abetter mindset and better goals
than you, it will not workbecause he will always envy you.
And she says guys run off ofego, ego, women run off emotion.
So once a guy feels like hisego is hurt, it hurts the
woman's emotions and that's theending of the relationship.
Right there, the beginning ofthat is the ending of the

(01:13:13):
relationship.
Wow you dropped one there my momis my best friend and I don't
have a good job.
You know what I need your momto write a book let me just say
my mom has not always been mybest friend.
We've worked through things andshe's in therapy.
Hallelujah for therapy.
Everybody go get a therapist.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Hallelujah.
Yeah, it could be on the phoneon.
Zoom in person Hell man on thehighway because of the traffic.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Yeah, I do that all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Yeah, roll down the window hey, you therapist, let
me ask you something.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Oh, I didn't mean it like that.
I mean like I'm on the phone,my therapist in traffic and I'm
like, oh yeah, that's true I'mgonna fight this car in front of
me like stay your ass in yourcar yeah, you don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
You don't want that shit you don't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
You don't want to catch the smoke today, not today
, not today.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
So my, so my that was that, shit was fun.
Yeah, it was fun oh my goodness, um, where can these people
find you, and do you have anyshout outs or anything?

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
You can find me on almost every social media
platform Snapchat, instagram, Idon't.
I think I still have threadsTwitter, all that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
My Lenny kecks also TikTok, oh, tiktok.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I've been trying to get back into that.
Oh word, ah.
Um, I'm a freshman in that, I'ma newbie, okay.
Well, maybe we should do somecollaboration videos that'll be
funny as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I'll be comedic as hell, comedic as hell we just
have to do more of these.
We could do like small sessionsjust to get tiktok clips hey,
that'll be fun, yeah, yeah, wecould talk about like bad toes,
pretty toes don't look at mytoes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Right now, my spray tan's coming off spray tan no
spray tan.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Like a guy with armpit hair no armpit hair.
Hairy chest, hairy back,unibrow hair in the ears hair in
the ears, go crazy.
What if there was hair like onthe top of the ear?
Is that a?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
deal breaker.
My dad used to make me pluckhis ear hairs when I was little,
ew.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
But I wonder if it hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
I'm sure it does.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
I mean plucking any hair.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Any hair is sore.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Oh yeah, you know what yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
I'm like let's just grab a wax strip and wax your
hair.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Oh man, fuck, no, ain't, no way.
Do you god we're going overtime.
I don't give a fuck.
Um, do you uh suggest a guygetting waxed down there?
Do you know anyone that getswaxed down there?

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
a guy um, I know guys that get lasered, I get lasered
.
That's why so it's permanenthair removal.
Does it hurt more?
It just feels like a rubberband.
Oh, it's like a yeah, and thenit's kind of like hot a little
after and then they it's allgood yeah like getting a tattoo.
I'd rather, it's less painfulthan okay, you don't have a.

(01:15:59):
I don't have actual tattoos.
I only have my lips and myeyebrows tattooed.
My lips hurt the most anddidn't even stay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Wait, hold on.
You got your lips tattooed,mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
It's like lip blush, like inside.
No, it's just like on top.
It's like lipstick, permanentlipstick.
But it didn't stay what itdidn't stay, mine didn't stay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
So that's like your natural, yeah it didn't stay,
mine didn't stay.
So that's like your naturalyeah, my natural lips.
And then where's your second?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
tattoo at my eyebrows .
Those are perfect.
I fucking love them.
If you're a girl, get youreyebrows tattooed.
It's the best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
So you don't have any hair there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
No, I do I have hair there I just needed them to get
darker.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Oh, not like darker, but like it makes getting ready
as a model faster like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I still go over them with color to make them a little
darker, but okay, cool, this ismy real hair my real eyebrows,
my real lips.
I've never, gotten any any workdone.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
I don't have any tattoos, yeah I'm gonna age very
uh, naturally because oh, I'veseen that shit be the real and
the fake oh yeah, deal with thereal, and if it's artificial,
let it be see what real is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Come over here and get one of these get one of them
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Hey, hey, man ko studios.
Thank you for the lovely, uhlovely, home.
Raffy bye, thank you for thelovely vibe.
My man, and with that I'm chris, I'm my lenny kex and we out of
this bitch peace.