The beauty of unexpected connections reveals itself in this conversation with dancer and instructor Aggie, where cultural touchpoints create an immediate bond that transforms what could have been a simple interview into a rich exploration of shared experiences.
When two Filipino-Americans get together, certain topics inevitably emerge - the struggle to maintain language skills, childhood memories of rice with sabaw, and the universal annoyance of having your sock mysteriously disappear during sleep. As Aggie shares her journey as a dance instructor, she reveals a teaching philosophy centered on inclusivity: "No matter what, I cannot leave anybody behind." This approach stands in stark contrast to the cutthroat experiences she encountered during her brief foray into commercial dance auditions, where being typecast proved disheartening.
The conversation weaves through nostalgic territory - from AOL chat rooms to three-way calling - before venturing into more personal terrain. Aggie's candid discussion about experiences with sleep paralysis leads to a surprising revelation about her faith journey. "I tried everything, like everything, and then I found God and I'm like, I feel like a whole new person," she shares with genuine conviction. This moment transforms the conversation, revealing the spiritual dimension that underlies her approach to both art and life.
What makes this episode special isn't just the range of topics covered, but the authentic connection formed between two people discovering their shared cultural background, generational experiences, and parallel life journeys. Whether you're a dancer, Filipino-American, or simply someone who appreciates authentic human connection, this conversation offers a window into how our various identities - cultural, professional, and spiritual - interact to shape who we become.
• Aggie discusses how dance teaching has changed, with more diverse skill levels and intentions in today's classes
• Teaching philosophy centered on never leaving anyone behind, even if it means covering less choreography
• Comparison of industry audition experiences and why Aggie ultimately preferred teaching to pursuing commercial dance
• Nostalgic discussion of growing up Filipino-American with shared cultural touchpoints
• Insights about maintaining Kapampangan language as a second-generation Filipino-American
• Childhood food memories including egg, rice and banana ketchup as a comfort food staple
• Personal experiences with sleep paralysis and finding faith as a solution
• Both hosts connect over their parallel journeys of finding meaningful faith after exploring other paths
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh, five, four, three , two, one.
Welcome back to another episodeof the relationship at the
podcast.
I'm Chris.
Today I have a very lovelyguest.
She's from my home state,killer, california.
I've seen her hot damn on stage.
I've seen her in person.
I'm kind of fangirling slashboy, slash itting.
(00:24):
Right now I got my girl Aggieon the motherfucking pod.
Yay, girl Aggie, it's mypleasure man.
Thank you for replying.
Thank you for DMing.
Thank you for being such a.
How am I Without kissing yourass?
(00:45):
Thank you for being such a.
How am I without kissing yourass?
Thank you for being such agenuine good person thank you,
thank you you don't know me yet,no man, you know what.
So like, um, this is what I'vebeen uh, doing for like the past
.
I'm gonna say eight years,right, um, everyone starts off
like at a hundred, like they'recool and everything, but then
(01:07):
once you start like doing somelike shady or some sideways
stuff, it cuts it down.
So everyone's like always at ahundred, with me at the get.
I don't know if that's bad tothink about like that, but I
mean yeah I'm trying to live mylife like that obviously okay, I
see yeah yeah, but um, aggie,before we uh, we get going.
(01:28):
Um, how did I get the yes fromyou?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
um, well, it's kind of like what you told me earlier
.
Just you know how you.
You said that you just like askpeople and then see what
happens.
When I got your message, I waslike I guess like yeah, you're
like who's this guy?
Yes, um, yeah.
And then I, when I looked onthe page and you're talking
about relationships and theconversations you had in in the
(01:56):
clips that you have on instagram, I was like oh, we don't really
talk about dance and like Idon't want to talk about dance.
So yeah, yeah, yeah we do talkabout death.
That's okay, but um yeah, Ijust thought it would be good to
experience something different.
So I was just like, okay, sure,we'll try it out okay, so it
(02:18):
was a.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
It was a more of a let's try this guy out and if he
, uh, if he becomes like a, ajerk, you know what?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'll never see this cat again, type of situation
it's like well, if I don't likeit, then I, then I don't like it
, and then I'll say somethingabout it that's good yeah but I
think it did help with thecommunication prior to, because
that's when I I can kind ofgauge who I would be working
with, who I would becommunicating with and so yeah,
(02:48):
I'll get over here.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh, hell yeah.
And then where are you at rightnow in the world?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
In suburbs of San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Frisco okay, okay, okay, Cool.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Not in San Francisco, but like in the suburbs.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
yeah, Like Daly City.
Yeah, hey, the reason why it'scloudy there is because all the
rice cookers are going off atthe same time.
But I remember when I was young, because I used to go to Daly
City a lot, it's because myfamily and I would go to
(03:27):
Goldilocks and then afterielocks we're like, oh, let's go
travel.
You know, you know, norcal.
I'm like, okay, cool.
So after goldie locks and thisis always on a sunday, right
after goldie locks, we wouldjust venture out there.
And that's how I knew aboutdaily city and one of my good
like I fangirled over him too DJQbert.
He used to.
(03:47):
I mean, he still stays in DailyCity, you know the whole, yeah,
yeah, it's funny because me andmy friends we would watch old
videotapes videotapes, right,and you know they would record
them driving and like goingthrough the streets to his house
(04:07):
and one of my buds he's likedude, I know that street, I know
that city, dude, let's make adrive out there.
So we reenacted that wholedriving scene and he was like,
yo, that's the house.
And I'm like, oh, my gosh, andthis is like before cell phones,
right.
So it's like we can't MapQuestanything, we can't Google
anything.
So we're like going off, likeour brain, on Remembering these
(04:30):
streets and these turns and umyeah, going back to the pad, we
watched the video.
Died dog we were there took ahot damn with him.
You know a camera, not aPolaroid, but uh, you know you.
Uh, you know a camera, not aPolaroid, but uh, you know you.
Uh, you could.
No, no, you could throw themaway.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It's like the click and then boop, and then you put
them in disposable cameras.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Disposables.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
We had.
We had like three or four ofthem, johns, and then, oh my God
, it was so freaking cool.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I always thought he was from Oakland, I
don't know why.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, I always thought he was from Oakland, I
don't know why, or that he livesin Oakland, maybe because I
used to go to you know, I usedto go to frisco.
A lot is hate street, the sameas it was like, say, 10, 20, 30
years ago, or is it like dirtiernow?
dirtier yeah, because I rememberwhen I was there it was that
(05:43):
whole street.
You know you had, true, you hadwas it called Rasputin's or
something Like that record shop,because I used to DJ, I used to
go on there, but that wholestreet was like, it was such a
vibe.
Is it still like that, or is itmore like homeless people now
or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I actually haven't walked the street in a while.
I have driven past it and itseems the same to me okay I'm
not really sure.
I feel like most of thehomeless homelessness happens in
the city, like downtown, whereyou have all the like financial
(06:22):
district and all that becauseall the stores are closed down
there and everyone works fromhome, so like that's why the
city is more occupied withhomeless people than hatred.
Hatred is like closer to thepark.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's like on that a little, a little more on the
outside rather than the centralpart of the city okay so it
could possibly still be the sameyeah, okay, um girl, because I
remember on hay there's like acourt, I don't say a couple
blocks up and I used to hoopthere too.
Hot damn ballers and stuff.
Um, have you, did you do anylike sports, you know, in high
(07:04):
school or anything?
Or were you always like in theclassroom just hanging out?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
no, I.
I tried to do track in middleschool.
It didn't work out too well.
I tried to do volleyball.
That didn't work out too well.
I tried to do basketball.
That didn't do.
That didn't work out too well.
I've always danced, so likeanytime we had extracurular
things, I would try to dance,and then in high school I
(07:29):
finally joined Westlake, theperforming arts school, and then
I just didn't stop dancingafter that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Oh, wow.
And with the whole dance thingand you said you've been doing
it for, like you know, a goodamount of change of your life,
has it changed from like backthen to how it is now, like the
whole dance community anddancing, or is it still the same
?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's totally different just because
generations have changed.
And then because there's TikToknow and everything like those
things online, then, like, um, Ifeel like there are some things
that are still the same, likehow people view then versus now,
um, what people are interestedin or what they care about, what
(08:20):
they think about during classand all that.
I feel like that's always agenerational thing.
Like I feel like when I starteddancing, all the older people
that looked down on us I feellike that's us kids like oh, we
don't know any better.
You know what I mean, but itwas like yeah, yeah, yeah that's
when we started dancing.
So like everything's so cool.
(08:40):
Um.
So I'm sorry.
What was your original question?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh, holy crap, oh how did it change from when you
started to it is now.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh yeah, I think I can answer that better if it's
more specific, okay specific.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Um, uh, uh, uh, okay, teach, okay, uh, teaching wise
now, um, like you, uh, back inthe day, you know, we had, uh,
you had, teachers.
Right now it's like you couldlearn, like I guess you don't
even have to go to a studio.
How did that change the dynamicof, like, say, the dance studio
(09:26):
and that whole aura thing?
Since you can't, you know,since people are like learning
it like at home and instead oflike going to like a teacher.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, as a student, I can only speak for myself
because I'm going to yeah, yeah,definitely, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to for for me.
If I take class, I'm gonna tryto learn as best as possible.
Anyway, like I know my own workethic to um, I don't know.
I mean, there are times whereI'm like, okay, this person
isn't teaching that well andthen other times I'm like, wow
(09:57):
this, this instructor is like sogood at explaining things or I
can follow really well withoutwithout them having to go
through a bunch of details orsomething like that.
There's always yeah, just likethat, um and again.
As for me, as a student, I'mlike I'm gonna turn my heart no
matter what, um.
But I can tell you moredifferences as a teacher okay,
(10:19):
yeah um, before it is a littlebit I don't know if there's a
better word for this but I feellike it was a little bit easier
teaching students because thelevels of students that would
come into your class were moresimilar.
But then now, now it's a littlebit different, because there
(10:45):
are a lot of students that justcome from work and then they
just want to dance.
It's not like everybody in theclass is there to train and get
better, and then you have anexpectation, you know.
But also I teach at a differentstudio, I don't teach at
Westlake anymore, so the dynamicof my students are always
different and I have differentlevels of students coming in and
(11:08):
I have different intentions ofthe students coming in.
So I'm always trying to jugglelike, oh, do I teach more, do I
teach less?
Um, I can't really have anexpectation of them.
Like, oh, they're here to trainyeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, okay, okay.
How are you, as a teacher, like?
Do you, do you keep on goingthrough the same thing until a
student gets it?
Or are you all right, I got toget done with this piece, or
whatever, because other peoplelike, because you said there's
different types of levels inyour class, right, like, yeah,
(11:46):
do you stay?
Do you stay on that onespecific eight count, or
whatever, or do you keep ongoing on?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm so glad I thought about this before.
I thought about this recentlybecause I have I struggled for
the past year trying to figureout what my class was to
students yeah um, but I onlyhave an hour 15.
Usually classes are an hour 30,um, but an hour routine is not
(12:15):
a lot and before the standard is.
Well, it could still be astandard now for most advanced
classes where you teach like 8to 12, eight counts uh-huh um, I
can only get through four.
Um, my, my class is advertisedas intermediate advanced.
(12:37):
Um, but the thing is like thelevel of students, it feels more
like, oh, I take a lot ofclasses, so I could like go into
this intermediate advancedclass and I first approached it
as an advanced class, but thennow I'm like I feel like I have
to approach it as anintermediate class and try to
(13:10):
get them to advance.
Okay, and you could also be aclass where um advanced students
if they just want to like brushup on details or get a little
more insight on, like themechanics of your movement okay,
that makes, that makes lots ofsense, yeah but my main thing,
my main thing I'm always gaugingin class.
My main thing is like no matterwhat, I cannot leave anybody
behind.
Hey, okay, atta, girl, attagirl yeah.
(13:33):
I feel really bad when I have,like, a really advanced student
in my class and they're kind ofwaiting around for me to get to
the next thing.
But there's a, there's a point.
Um, there's a point when you'reteaching something and then yeah
, like right, when all yourstudents like get there, then
it's like, okay, move on.
(13:53):
Like I don't want to stay onsomething too long and then, and
then I won't be able to teachthe rest of my piece.
But like, yeah, um, yeah, Idon't know, that's just my thing
.
I'm like I can't leave thisperson behind.
If someone has a question, I'mgonna answer it.
If, uh, you do one more time,I'm gonna answer it.
Like I'm gonna like have us doone more time.
(14:14):
And so, um, yeah, at first itwas like I need to get through
this piece, but then like, yeah,it kind of messes with you when
, like you see people strugglingand then nobody's getting it,
just because I'm trying to rushthrough a piece, you know,
trying to yeah yeah, yeah intoclass time.
Um, but also another reason whyI I can only teach that much in
(14:36):
an hour 15 is because I need towarm up and stretch oh, and that
takes up like what, like 15 to20 minutes.
Half of it is for me.
I need it so bad.
Another half is Is when I tellmy students to like okay,
(14:59):
stretch our own.
They're just like standingthere and then, okay, dude, I.
I like, dude, I, I need my, Istill need my stretching time,
my damn yeah, I still have astretch time, but then I also
think that, like, um, when youwarm up your students or when
you stretch them out, you kindof give them an idea of the body
parts you need to use for thepiece oh, I've never.
(15:23):
I've never heard that beforeyeah, like I'll kind of cater to
what my piece is like for theday.
If there's more stretchymovement or more extensions,
then I'll like do a lot ofbreathing or I'll do a lot of
like, like longer reaches for mystretches and warm-ups.
If I'm doing stuff that's moreheavyset on the like, uh, like
(15:44):
with my legs, and I'll warm up abit more than than others.
So yeah, it really depends.
If I just leave them to like gostretch, they'll do like this
one of these.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
They'll sit on the floor and then, like, touch
their leg, they'll touch theirfoot, like yeah, touch their leg
, they'll touch their foot.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
They're like yeah uh, uh, yeah.
I feel that, oh my God, excuseme Like you being in dance for,
like you know, for a cool minute.
Have you seen or have you everlike experienced and tried to
like be in the industry?
(16:25):
Like, have you ever experiencedand tried to be in the industry
?
Have you ever ventured thatroute?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, I hated, it, oh really.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Can you like?
Why did you hate it?
Is it like the hours?
Is it the people that you'recompeting against, or like
you're dancing with, or is itjust like the whole?
I think it's just the process,like I, the process okay yeah, I
couldn't stomach it I willadmit that I could not stomach
it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I didn't like it um oh, okay I like going to
auditions it.
It was hard to juggle becauseit was like I'm spending all my
time going to this, but I alsoneed to like make money somehow,
and then it was just hard inthat way and I also um, being
(17:13):
typecasted really sucks beingwhat typecasted typecasted.
Okay, okay, okay it reallysucks, but I was also maybe like
25.
I feel like I was pretty youngback then to not be able to
accept that people won't like mefor the way I look.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh, no ways.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, Now I'm just kind of like okay.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's just whatever.
So were you too short, yourhaircut was too short.
Your, your haircut was too short, your hair was too long or like
it was mainly height, and thenyeah um, there's a ton of asian
people, so, like you know, ohokay well, it also could be my
dancing, maybe I just wasn'tthat good but okay yeah, just
(18:03):
just the fact that I had to doso much to like get cut really
quickly was not worth it to meokay, so after, after like you
getting cut, was the bounce backsuper fast, or did you lay low
train or did you like ventureoff to do something else, like I
?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
don't know work at a jamba, oh what I was teaching at
the time.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I'm sorry to interrupt oh, no, no, no, you're
good, please do it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Do it all the time, it's all good oh I, I was
teaching at the time, so okaysince like that was getting more
traction than auditioning.
Then yeah, like well, I'm gonnago teach, if I, if I can make
money.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, and then I just did like gigs for jobs, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Like dance gigs.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
No, like there are agencies that like staffing
companies.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I forget what else I did, but just like short
part-time jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh, I guess, when you talk about staffing agencies, I
remember when I got out of Igot out of high school and I, um
, you know, I turned in myresume for a staffing agency.
Uh, and I was like like you, Iwas like at various jobs too.
I think one of my favorite oneswas selling paintings.
I don't know how, I don't knowwhy, but selling painting was
like super, like it was.
(19:30):
It was one of my faves, becauseI'm like, I'm like talking to
you know, monterey, I'm talkingto old white people, right, and
I'm not trying to be, I'm nottrying to be racist, but it's
like I like hearing theirstories and I'm just like, oh,
for real, you live through thisera.
You came through, you know, onthe boat from italy or this in
the third, and I'm just like,wow, man, and it like it's a
plus if they bought a painting,right.
(19:51):
But just, you know peoplecoming in from like everywhere.
I'm just like, oh, hi, welcome.
So yeah, it was like one of myfavorite.
You know odd jobs to do andstuff.
What was your favorite?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
my favorite was e3.
Do you know e3 or remember e3?
No, you don't have it aroundanymore.
It's electronic entertainmentexpo uh-huh so it was this.
I guess you would call it agaming conference or a gaming um
uh, kind of like a, you know,crunchy roll, or like anime expo
(20:29):
, it's like that, but for videogames no way yeah, I.
I worked for um, a staffingcompany that always worked for
nintendo, so I was able to.
I was a video game demonstrator.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
That was my job for for like, like demonstrator on
like like say oh, these are thebuttons.
You just you push a to jump, bto dive, like something like
that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Or you just show them , such as yeah, like one year I
did um one year.
The game that nintendo put outwas super mario odyssey and then
the next year was zelda um, Iforgot what it was, but
basically I had to learn how todemo the game, so they left me
(21:19):
alone to play it for like 10 to20 minutes, and then the entire
day I would have to like showpeople how to play it, and then
I'd have to basically say likeokay, your time's up.
Aggie, I'm freaking out like thenext level, what the hell it
(21:40):
actually stops at a certainpoint, like if they okay, okay,
the demo, then like, their demois done.
But if they I think there'slike a certain time limit where
they can play, like let's sayit's like five or ten minutes
when their time is done, thenit'll just like blackout.
And then the next person it wasreal restart.
Oh, I got to meet the voice ofMario.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Okay, okay, Okay, describe Is it a him or her?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's a him.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, describe him.
Does he look like Mario ortotally different?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't know.
I think he like smiles, likeMario.
Does he have the?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
stache.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, he doesn't Okay, okay okay.
But he was in the wild.
That okay, okay, okay that'sfreaking wild man.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Oh, dude yeah cuz I love, I love me some beer.
Were you a game gaming nerd aswell?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
no, but my brother older brother playing live video
games and he'd always make mewatch him play oh that's how I
know video games.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Oh, so you don't dabble, you don't play like, say
, Super Smash Brothers or any ofthose games Like what is that?
Mario Go Kart or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Mario Kart.
I love Mario Kart.
I have a.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You have a Switch?
Oh, are you on Animal Crossing?
I have it, but I don't play itokay, I know people that are
addicted to it after thepandemic, so like oh I'm doing
other things now oh, attagirl,attagirl um hold on, hold on,
(23:20):
but um hold on.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You need this, that's .
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Oh, final Fantasy, I girl, I love that game so far.
Cloud, oh my gosh, I tried tosee it, uh-huh, and then what
happened?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I stopped after I died oh my god but.
But I can tell you, though, myfavorite rpg is super mario,
super mario rpg, and I did beatthat game, hey at a girl.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
How, how long did it take you to beat that game?
Was it months, or was it likewas it a straightforward game to
where you knew how to like,beat different levels and beat
different bosses?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
yeah, I um.
You know those the'readventuring through the land,
right yeah in an RPG game.
It like like an adventure game,kind of not really.
But you're basically trying toget to your next destination or
look for clues or whatever, andthen you have yeah your enemies
walking around.
When you bump into them, thenyou fight them.
You know, yes, it's like attack, run, magic, like all that's
(24:49):
cool, yeah, yeah so for all ofthose, I would fight all of them
, just so I could, just so Icould level up, and then I could
be easier to to fight the bossor yeah, yeah, yeah you're
enemies and that is like thebest way, how I got through the
game.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So in this game was there like puzzles, too, that
you couldn't figure out, or ittook you a long time to like
damn, where is this key thatwill open this door or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
To be honest, I feel like, can you pause?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, just go, Let it run, Just go, Just go
.
Maybe that's her door dashy'all.
She probably got like some fooddelivered or something.
(25:45):
Maybe her laundry is done.
And oh, I was commentating.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
One second, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Hold on, it's gonna be a while You're good, you're
good, you're good Shit.
It's gonna be a while I'm gonnause the bathroom Shit.
It's gonna be a while I'm gonnause the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, not yet.
Okay, I'll get you guys somewater.
Okay, you guys will be good.
Relax, I'm still on.
Okay, okay, it's obvious, Ineed a cold.
(28:13):
I'm just wondering, here, thereyou go, if it's too cold, you
can sit over there, so the windis not too cold.
Okay, I think it's alright now,but you can charge your phone
to your bed.
Ouch what, oh, daddy, daddy,yes, safi, can you help me open
(29:17):
the tree?
Come here, saf, cheese, did youtry opening it?
Be careful, cheese.
(29:39):
Okay, there, be careful.
Thank you, babe.
Thank you, babe.
Thank you, rara, love you, loveyou too.
Okie, dokie, oh hi, welcomeback, I'm back.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yay, thank you for waiting.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Oh no, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I was just saying Are you going to cut?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
that I can.
But I mean it's cool because Ilike the raw footage, so it's
all gravy.
I was just saying, oh, I waslike that could be like Comcast
or Spectrum.
You know, working on her cable,yeah he's not that one, you
know.
Oh, he's your landlord.
Yeah, oh, auntie uncle, sorry,auntie uncle, oh man, oh gosh,
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okay, uncle, oh man, um, oh gosh, okay, let's try and get back.
Um, do you have any questionsfor me?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
uh, while I try, to think of, uh, something um, have
you always wanted to podcast oh, hell, no, um, let me tell.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So back in the day I'll tell, I'll give you a brief
story.
Uh, back in the day I'll giveyou a brief story, back in the
day, and this is going to tellmy age.
Right, I was big on Tumblr, soI blogged.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
How old do you think I am?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I think you're.
I want to say because you werelike oh, I was pretty young back
then and I was like 25.
So I'm going to say you'reprobably in your either late 20s
or maybe early 30s Older.
Holy crap Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
What if we're the same age?
Or do you know you're olderthan me?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know what?
I think I'm older than you, butokay, what, what, what?
When did you graduate highschool?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
that would be me.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, oh for real, okay, um, let's see what social
media did you use?
Myspace okay um, I was on.
Okay, very first one was AOL.
Were you on AOL?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
ASL pick Dude.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Those are my initials , so whenever somebody would say
that I'm like, how'd you know?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
No way.
What's the S?
What's the S in your?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
name Santos, my middle name, my mom's name.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Oh Wow, it's like ASL .
Pick Okay middle name my mom's.
Oh wow, it's like oh, it's sobig.
Uh, okay, so you were on that.
Um, so you're on a.
I am, I guess, right.
Did you have a nokia?
Yes okay, I had a nokia.
Did you have a pager?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
no, but my cousin did .
I wanted one like.
What would I use it for?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Okay, I think we might be the same, like around
the same age.
Then Hold on.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did you play outside as a kid?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, of course I had to be back home before the
lights came on, and yeah so Kidscan't do that nowadays, can
they?
No way, I think kids nowadays,depending on the parent, right
Some kids be staying out late,you know, oh, yeah, like I was a
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badass kid but I tried to behome before, you know, before
the lights came on.
But you know, since my dadbecause I grew up with a dad,
not with a mom my dad was alwaysworking so he wouldn't know,
and then we didn't have ringsback then.
So it's like it's hard to keeptrack of a person you know.
So, yeah, oh, okay, you're yourage.
(33:25):
Um, three-way, did you usethree-way a lot?
Yes, okay, that sums it up.
So you were on the phone, youwere on three-way, Okay, did?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
you wear JNCOs.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Caller ID on wireless Star 69?
Star 69.
If you want to block yournumber star 68 or some stuff
right?
Oh my gosh, yes, okay, yes okayyeah, okay, we're, we're, oh,
we're in the same genre.
I mean, we're in the same,we're the same group, okay.
So coming back, um, I used toblog on tumblr a lot.
Um, uh, uh, I wrote in highschool.
My, uh, my english teacher waslike, hey, this is pretty good.
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You should, like, you know, uh,submit it somewhere.
I was like, no man, you'relying.
So, um, I kept on blogging.
Finally I was like, yo, I'mgonna submit it to huffington
post.
Hopefully, you know, yeah,hopefully it goes good.
Huffington post hits me back upand says, hey, your stuff is
good, but it's something thatyou're not, we're not looking
into.
So, um, after that I got intothe army, stopped blogging and
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then in during the in the army,um, one of my friends was like
hey, do you want to start apodcast with me?
I was like hell, I'm down, I'mopen to new things.
I didn't know what I was doing.
So I was a co-host for, um, apodcast, a military podcast
called more than a uniformthat's cool so, yeah, so the the
premise is that is that, uh,we're all we wear this uniform,
(34:54):
right, but it's what we do on,you know, like when we put on
our civilian clothes.
So there's a lot of people thathave, you know, side hustles,
um, people that are in bands andstuff.
Uh, they do a lot of, uh likeentrepreneur work when the
uniform comes off.
And we talked to a lot ofspouses too, because we wanted
to know what spouses would dowhen, uh, their other half is,
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you know, defending the country,right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
So I was on that, yeah huh, I have a question yeah
, oh, go ahead don't go uh me umare people that are active in
the military.
Are you allowed to make moneywhile you're active?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
yes, uh, it's like it's frowned upon.
But the answer is yes, um, butthe job can't, cannot interfere
while you're being a soldier,you know, because you're always
a soldier first.
So let's say you have a sidegig at working at walmart, right
, you can't go to your likecommander and say, hey, uh, I
can't be in today because I'mworking at walmart.
(36:00):
No, it's uh, the the militarytrumps your other job.
And if, if, uh, let's say ifyour job and the military like
coincides, if there's like anydiscrepancies or whatever, your
(36:23):
commanding team will go to themanager of your job and say, hey
, pfc, um, pfc jenkins, hey,he's not working here anymore.
Please give him his check.
He has an obligation to theunited states military.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
United States military, but you could make
passive income.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Oh yeah, people do a lot of what's it called Uber.
Uber is like super big in themilitary and the reason why it's
big is because people could geton and off post, opposed to a
civilian doing Uber.
They cannot, you know.
So they actually have like ahead up in that game in a sense,
(36:57):
or like delivering pizzas orworking at the commissary.
A commissary is like a Safeway,but on post, so that's side gig
.
But usually if you have jobslike that, like if you work on a
military post, they're like oh,you have an assignment coming
(37:19):
up.
They're like they're superlenient to.
Okay, we'll hold your job, justlet us know when you come back
and you can start again.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, so, continuing on, I did more than uniform.
My boy got an assignment and heasked me to stay on and I was
like, dude, this is your stuff.
I feel uncomfortable whenyou're on this like nine month
assignment.
I feel weird doing it by myself.
So I asked people around and Iwas like yo, do you think I
could make my blogs into apodcast?
(37:49):
And people saying, yes, just doit, you have the personality
for it.
And I was like I don't knowabout the personality part, but
I do have some good stories.
So, um, yeah, I transitioned toto this thing and I've been
doing it for, I'm gonna say,like two and a half years now by
myself and uh, dude, it's superfun and, like to me, it's like
it's therapeutic I can see that.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, you do have a personality for it.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That's what I think oh, oh, oh, manang, thank you,
man, thank you, thank you,manang, sounds so old.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh, auntie, oh when you first called me that, I was
like why am I, why, why do I Ifeel disrespected right now,
right?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Why, why do I feel disrespected right now?
Right, are you a what I wasgonna say?
What genre of Filipino, whatFilipino are you?
Are you Ilocano Tagalog Visayan?
Come on Baro.
Hey, do you speak the language?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I try to speak it more than Tagalog.
I understand the gist of both,but when it comes to specific,
what do you call it?
Specific words, like if it wasa and, versus and or like.
I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, like the connecting words, you know.
Yeah, Not too much, but likewords I can.
I can like kind of put asentence together.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Are you good enough to keep a conversation going?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, but it'll be broken.
It'll probably be like half andhalf.
I'll speak an English word if Idon't know the Kampong Pongan
word.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Girl, I'm the same way.
I'm the same way as well.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, so my aunties, I see my older aunties now a
little more often.
So when I see them I try totake advantage of being able to
speak Kampong Pangan to them.
I really try and want to getcomfortable because, um, because
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my older brother, he has kidsbut then he doesn't use a
language on them and yeah, andlike, we understand it and my
brother can speak it to acertain extent, but it's not his
everyday language.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, and so I just I kind of don't want it to be
lost.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Um, and I heard it's not his everyday language, yeah,
and so I just I kind of don'twant it to be lost, and I heard
it's a dying language too, soI'm like trying to keep as much
as I can with it.
And there are barely any bookson the language too.
I tried searching for stuffonline but, mainly like symbolic
stuff or very very fewreferences online.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Oh, because on the island we have a lot of ilicanos
and people that speak tagalog.
So I was I don't want to say Iwas forced, but um, when I see
like the old aunties and uncles,I try to speak the language,
but it's all.
It all comes into illocano,tagalog and Bisaya, and I'm just
like, oh man, and they laughbecause they know what I'm
trying to say.
But I understand all thedialects fluently.
(41:05):
I still watch Filipino moviesand stuff.
So it's like, yeah, I canunderstand it, but then, when it
comes to speaking, I'm likefreak me man, like I'm having a
hard time.
So I try to, uh, I do what youdo, like speak it in english as
well, hoping they know what thatword means.
And then when it comes to thekids, it's like, uh, I, I kind
(41:28):
of force them to watch, uh, youknow, like at least 20 minutes
of like filipino movies with meyeah, no, yeah, because I'm like
man, y'all gotta learn this.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
At least 20 minutes of like filipino movies with me.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, no yeah, because I'm like man.
Y'all gotta learn this stuffbecause you're eating my
filipino food might as well, youknow.
So, yeah, like they, they, theyknow stuff, they just can't
speak it yet I feel like they'llpick it up.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So are they young, like really young?
Yeah, six and eight oh okay,yeah, yeah, I feel like if
they're around it or if theyhear six and eight oh okay, yeah
.
Yeah, I feel like if they'rearound it or if they hear it
often, then they'll pick it upfaster than if they were older.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Oh, definitely yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
But sometimes when I'm out in the world and I'll go
to like a Filipino bakery orsomething, and then I hear
people speaking Kabongpangan.
I want to speak it to them.
So bad.
But when I try and only a fewwords come out.
They're yeah they're, um,they're skeptical to speak it to
me because I feel like I don'tknow what they're thinking or
(42:26):
feeling.
But I feel like they are likeoh, she doesn't know,
kabangpangan that well, so likeI'm not going to respond to her
in a couple of bongan you know,no way yeah, have you ever?
I can only assume.
But like, when I try to, theyjust like continue to respond to
me in english or they'll belike oh yeah, and then like I
(42:46):
don't get any any response andI'm like please speak a little
bong, speak to me because, oh,that's, that's like the aunties
and uncles like giving you shade, that's like their way.
They're like yeah yeah, I hate,I'm like, wait, I'm trying girl
, I'm the same way too.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm the same way.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I'm just like, come on, man you know what my auntie
does um, and she doesn't do iton purpose, I think it's just
out of habit.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
My auntie.
I try to speak Kapampangan toher, but she'll talk to me in
Tagalog.
And then my cousin is like no,mom, kapampangan.
Respond to her Kapampangan,yeah yeah, yeah.
But then she still does Tagalog.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
But my auntie is like 80 years old, so like, ah, okay
, okay, okay.
So do you find yourself likespeaking Tagalog more than
Kampang, pangan or Ilocano orwhatever?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
no, I find myself speaking more Kampang Pangan
than okay, okay, that's good,that's good.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
So, um, you grew up in a Kampang Pangan household,
yeah, so are the dishesdifferent, or are the
ingredients different from, like, say, ilocano or Tagalog dishes
?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I don't know the difference.
I don't know if I've had anIlocano dish.
What's an Ilocano dish?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Well, I don't know.
I was always taught likekilawin was an Ilocano dish.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Kilawin.
So it's goat and then you'resupposed to like it's a bar food
.
So it's goat, ginger, greenonion, garlic and stuff you like
.
You cook the goat or you frythe goat or whatnot, and it's
supposed to be some type of barfood that you're supposed to
have like with a beer or RedHorse or whatever.
But it's cold, like it'ssupposed to be, not frozen but
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it's refrigerated.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
It's cooked and then refrigerated.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, so it's supposed to be served cold.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Oh, I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Really Okay.
How about sisig?
I know you had sisig, I lovesisig.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay, I love it too.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
So is that a tagalog dish, or is that?
I feel like that's a tagalogdish.
Okay, but does kapang?
Do they have their own way ofmaking a sisig dish?
I feel like they make it thetagalog way okay my favorite is
bongos oh, dude, you okay, okay,okay, and this is gonna uh,
this is gonna sound kind ofgnarly like to the listeners and
(45:16):
stuff.
Do you eat it with bagoong oralmang or anything?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
oh shoot.
You know what?
I'm pretty like basic when itcomes to food so okay, so
vinegar.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Then you just dip it in vinegar vinegar lemon yeah
yeah okay, but bag bonas isstill good, though you know it
just makes your house smellfunky.
But I mean, hot damn, like thecrunch and like after you take
out all the bones, you'restraight.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Dude, I'll pick that over the pork or chicken.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
No, lechon cavalli.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
No, no, no, Um pork seasick Like I like it but I
don't know why.
I just like boneless really.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Is it the way that it's made like?
Is it the oil, or is it just Ijust fried, or is it the fish?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I think because it reminds me of tilapia and in my
house we always had like tilapiaand rice yeah so that could be
why I like it more are you a bigrice eater?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
no or do you?
No, yeah, but you know, stayaway from the carbs well now,
yeah, as a kid, all I okay.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
As a kid, all I ate was rice and tabal from the
sinigang.
No meat, no vegetables no, no,you're a typical kid I'm like
maybe that's why I'm so short,glittered you didn't need enough
freaking pork or whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Oh my god, my kids are the same way too.
It's.
That's funny because you saidthat because they'll drink,
they'll have the soup and thenjust the rice.
And I'm like dude, what's upwith the vegetables?
Like no, I'm okay, I'm likewhatever.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I hated salad as a kid uh-huh like I don't know, I
just my parents never made meeat anything uh-huh um, as in
like, you have to eat this, theyjust like oh let me eat what I
wanted to eat.
Yeah, and so in fifth grade,when I went to outdoor ed, I was
(47:20):
out.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
What's that?
What's outdoor ed?
What is that?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
It's like this camp that fifth graders go to.
They sell chocolate so they canfundraise to go to a camp for a
week.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Is that like a science camp thing?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
No, it's just like oh , you're just like out of nature
and like, do camp stuff oh okay, survive right but you're,
you're in cabins, so okay, ohokay, cool, cool, cool um, but,
but you go with other schools oh, that's pretty cool, that's
pretty fun.
Um, and in outer red I had alunch table that I didn't want
(47:53):
to be part of because the tableleader she was in I think she
was in high school she made meeat my salad.
She wouldn't let me leave mytable unless I ate my salad, and
I hated it because every time Itried to eat it I would like
gag.
Oh no, Was there any dressingor was it just straight greens?
And I hated it because everytime I try to eat it.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I would like gag like I.
Oh no, was there any dressingor was it just straight greens?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I can't remember, maybe there was a little bit of
dressing, but every time I wouldlike sit, I Remembered this
vividly.
I, every time I would sit, andthen the salads in front of my,
in front of my face, like shewould go Some more, like she
would.
She would look at me and belike, eat some more, and I'm
just like girl, you're, you'retrauma that brought like I could
(48:43):
eat that all the time now I canokay, okay, okay but then at
the time it was like I wanted tocry.
I wanted to cry because I didn'twant to eat my greens.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Oh my gosh, what is your go-to food?
Like, say, back in the day thatbrought, like that's still your
go-to food now.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Egg, rice and ketchup .
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Okay With egg, rice and ketchup Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
I'll eat it with regular ketchup or Geoffran.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
The banana ketchup.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, which is what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Is it bandit over there?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
We have a lot of it over here it's discontinued.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You do yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Like you go to like, let's say like a lot like a
lion's market.
We call it, yeah, we.
And then the little Filipinoshops and stuff.
They still have rows and rowsand rows of the banana ketchup.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I'll send you a care package, girl I got you.
I'll send you like these littlebottles.
Be like hey man, merryChristmas, kwanzaa and Hanukkah,
I'll hook you up.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I'll hook you up All of our Asian stores the shelves
are empty Really.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, it's cuz of that red 40 stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, yeah, like if this was my bottle.
I have like this much left.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
I'm trying to you to say, hey, put a little bit of
water, shake it up.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
You only do that for You'll be good.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
You only do that for oh yeah, hey, that's.
Hey, I do that a lot.
That's funny because my dadused to say, like when we're
running low on stuff, he's like,oh, just add a little bit of
water, shake it up.
And yeah, did you.
Okay growing up and you knowthis might be like a Joe Coy,
you know kind of story, butVicks Was Vicks used a lot while
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you were growing up, like thewhole underneath your nose,
underneath your eyes, underneathyour feet.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
No, but my grandma used it, but it was never used
on us oh that's good.
Yeah, my grandma liked itthough.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, Tiger Bomb.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Oh, tiger Bomb, yeah, yeah, tiger Bomb, okay.
Okay, let me ask you this whenwas the last time you visited
the PI, the Philippines, likeyour homeland, like 2010.
2010.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
That was the only time I visited.
Were you like in the provinceor were you like in like Manila,
like the general popular parts,like Baguio or Manila?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Both it was because it was a layover.
So I went to Macau for a dancetrip with Westbrook, and then
going there and then going home.
We had like two to three dayseach way.
So when I first got there Ivisited my dad's side of the
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family and then, on the way backhome, I stayed in Manila with
the rest of my friends ah, okay,okay.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
So growing up, let me ask you this, let me you know,
stay on the topic of Philippineswhen you're going up.
Did you were like, say, youraunts and uncles and everyone
older than you?
Did they ever tell you like anyPhilippine paranormal ghost
stories?
Speaker 2 (52:14):
No oh.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
I.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Would just see a swan on TV.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Okay, okay.
Did you ever believe in that?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
like I'm so scared of the dark dude like even now,
yeah, even if I know something'snot real.
Um, paranormal stuff creeps meout like freaks me out not freak
me out, but like freaks me out.
And then, and I just alwayshave this image of a girl in
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white and like her hair ismessed up.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You know, that's like black and like in her face.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, like the ring girl, but then that's what also
the Filipino.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, the white lady.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, the white lady yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
So so you say you're, so you say you're afraid of
dark.
So when you leave, like, say,your room, your domicile, do you
have like a nightlight, or isyour lamp on before you dip out,
or are you okay with?
Oh, is it?
Speaker 2 (53:17):
wow, I need to sleep with the lights off, so Wow, I
need to sleep with the lightsoff.
So the only thing that's on atnight is my Echo.
It has like a blue light orlike a yellow light, and then
one of my outlets has like a Idon't know.
(53:39):
There's like a light that comesout of one of the plugs that I
my smart plug has, like a lightthat just says that it's on and
then that's like good enough forit to be on.
Well, other than that, I Ican't see what the light on
because my eyes are sensitive.
So if you turn the light on.
I can wake up from that.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Really.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
You're like yeah, yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
You're like uh, yeah, it sucks because I don't like
the dark, but then I need it tobe dark so I can sleep you know,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, that always happens to me.
Oh, so how are you when there'slike, let's say, a blackout or
whatever?
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I'm like against the wall, are you?
Speaker 1 (54:21):
really it's like hey, hold up, hey guys, hold the
fuck up.
I'm chilling.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Dude, even when I'm sleeping, if I'm sleeping on my
side, I need to have my backcovered, because I just feel
like something's going to touchme or something.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Oh, really, have you ever slept with your foot over
the bed?
Oh, like at the edge of the bed, you know, like how your feet
hangs off your bed.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I want to.
So bad I want to so bad, but Isleep on my back most of the
time and I have found that whenI do have my feet like out of
the covers or hanging off of thebed.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
I get sleep paralysis .
No way.
Yeah, this is every time, everytime.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
So what I started doing?
Because I love God so much, Isay I'm like I rebuke you in the
name of Jesus and like, dude,I'm not gonna lie.
The last time I had sleepparalysis and I started, I said
it while while it was happening.
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It stopped within like a fewseconds.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Really.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, and then it just, I feel like I haven't been
bothered since.
But I, but because I'm scared,I still can't have my feet on
Hiding off the bed.
But because I'm scared, I stillcan't have my feet on the bed,
hiding off the bed, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
So for people that don't know what sleep paralysis
is, can you give like a briefdescription on what that is?
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah Well, for me it feels like you're immobile, you
can't move, you can't yell,you're basically like you can't
do anything.
You feel like you're stuck inyour body, and then it just but
you're aware, though, right,you're aware it feels like
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somebody is pushing down on yourchest and going like this to
you so you can't move.
And then when you're trying tosay something, it's like what oh
?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
So you had one of those.
Was this like an ongoing thing?
Speaker 2 (56:35):
It would happen occasionally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
And then I noticed it happened the most when I didn't
have my feet covered.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
So do you sleep with your socks on or off?
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Usually off, but because it's cold now, then I
have them on and then sometimesthey just end up off.
I wake up and then I sleep.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Girl, let me tell you , when I sleep with my socks on,
I'm missing a left sock.
In the morning I'm like what amI doing in my sleep to have one
sock on?
You move around man, girl, itman, it happens all the time.
I'm like.
Even my sister and my brotherare like hey, dude, why is your
sock in the living room and youslept with them on in the
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bedroom?
I'm like dog.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
I don't know, honestly, huh no, I don't think
I do, no, no I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
I stay in the same bed or this couch or whatever.
I don't move.
But no, I've never seen I dolike move, like say, I wake up
and I'm like man, I can't goback to sleep, and then I sit
down somewhere else.
I do that, but I don't think Isleepwalk.
I'm 99.9?
Sure I don't, but if I do that,0.1, oh gosh, no wonder my sock
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is not on, man, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Sometimes it's tough to wear your socks, though.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
It's what.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Stuffy.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Girl, man, I don't know, I just don't like my feet,
but I feel comfortable in mysocks though.
So it's like, yeah, but inhawaii, girl, you have to like
have them off, because it, youknow, be hot, that stuff be
stanking.
I'm telling you right now, likethat whole flip-flop thing,
like I hate flip-flops, so I'llbe wearing, I'll be wearing
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slides and crocs and shit, but,dude, the whole, the whole, you
know, this is your, this is yourtoe, the whole, something in
your toe, this middle part, it'sso uncomfortable to me man.
You got the ninja feet.
At the end of the day, I'm likeno dude, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Those are actually uncomfortable to me oh the
chinelas.
Yeah, but I wear the ones thatgo over like this oh, okay, okay
, this might be funny.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Um, do you wear sandals that your feet or your,
you know the tip of your toes?
Are they like over?
You know the front of yoursandal?
No good egg at a girl, because,because I see the old aunties
and then, yeah, they wearsandals and their foot, the toes
, is like over it.
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I'm like dude.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
I think you stretched out your sandals.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Right, but that is so funny.
Yeah, that's so funny.
Well, aggie, that was fun, thatwas Girl.
Thank you so much for coming onand chopping it up with me.
Man, I do appreciate you somuch Thank you for having me
Girl.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Oh dude, hella, Hella .
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I didn't say hella.
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Oh, my bad, I thought you said hello.
My fault, sorry, my bad man, mybad.
Do you have any shout outs oranything before we dip out?
Speaker 2 (59:54):
shout out to my Lord and Savior, jesus Christ.
I'm being for real, I love Godso much like wholeheartedly.
In another conversation I wouldtell you how.
I tried everything, likeeverything, and then I found god
and I'm like, I feel like awhole new person oh, you know
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what?
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
that is a good conversation, because I've gone
through that too, like I wasraised Catholic, then I lost my
faith, then I went somewhereelse and then I found GOD.
So yeah dude.
We'll definitely have anotherepisode on that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
It's okay to say his name.
Man, it's okay to say his name.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Oh, okay, got it, thank you.
Wait, wait, yeah, before we dipdip out.
You say you're into god.
Um, did you go to church todayor are you going later?
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I know um all the services are done for today.
I did not go today, but yeah, II was online today for the
sermon oh oh, okay, okay, hey,respect, respect you.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
You know you talk to the Lord, so respect to that,
respect to that yeah hell yeah,um yeah, hell yeah, ko studios.
Thank you for the lovely home.
Um Rafi bite.
Thank you for the lovely vibe.
My man, I do appreciate youwith that.
I'm Chris.
I'm Aggie hell yeah, and we outthis bitch peace.
Oh, five, four, three , two, one.
Welcome back to another episodeof the relationship at the
podcast.
I'm Chris.
Today I have a very lovelyguest.
She's from my home state,killer, california.
I've seen her hot damn on stage.
I've seen her in person.
I'm kind of fangirling slashboy, slash itting.
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Right now I got my girl Aggieon the motherfucking pod.
Yay, girl Aggie, it's mypleasure man.
Thank you for replying.
Thank you for DMing.
Thank you for being such a.
How am I Without kissing yourass?
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Thank you for being such a.
How am I without kissing yourass?
Thank you for being such agenuine good person thank you,
thank you you don't know me yet,no man, you know what.
So like, um, this is what I'vebeen uh, doing for like the past
.
I'm gonna say eight years,right, um, everyone starts off
like at a hundred, like they'recool and everything, but then
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once you start like doing somelike shady or some sideways
stuff, it cuts it down.
So everyone's like always at ahundred, with me at the get.
I don't know if that's bad tothink about like that, but I
mean yeah I'm trying to live mylife like that obviously okay, I
see yeah yeah, but um, aggie,before we uh, we get going.
(01:28):
Um, how did I get the yes fromyou?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
um, well, it's kind of like what you told me earlier
.
Just you know how you.
You said that you just like askpeople and then see what
happens.
When I got your message, I waslike I guess like yeah, you're
like who's this guy?
Yes, um, yeah.
And then I, when I looked onthe page and you're talking
about relationships and theconversations you had in in the
(01:56):
clips that you have on instagram, I was like oh, we don't really
talk about dance and like Idon't want to talk about dance.
So yeah, yeah, yeah we do talkabout death.
That's okay, but um yeah, Ijust thought it would be good to
experience something different.
So I was just like, okay, sure,we'll try it out okay, so it
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was a.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
It was a more of a let's try this guy out and if he
, uh, if he becomes like a, ajerk, you know what?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'll never see this cat again, type of situation
it's like well, if I don't likeit, then I, then I don't like it
, and then I'll say somethingabout it that's good yeah but I
think it did help with thecommunication prior to, because
that's when I I can kind ofgauge who I would be working
with, who I would becommunicating with and so yeah,
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I'll get over here.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh, hell yeah.
And then where are you at rightnow in the world?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
In suburbs of San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Frisco okay, okay, okay, Cool.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Not in San Francisco, but like in the suburbs.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
yeah, Like Daly City.
Yeah, hey, the reason why it'scloudy there is because all the
rice cookers are going off atthe same time.
But I remember when I was young, because I used to go to Daly
City a lot, it's because myfamily and I would go to
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Goldilocks and then afterielocks we're like, oh, let's go
travel.
You know, you know, norcal.
I'm like, okay, cool.
So after goldie locks and thisis always on a sunday, right
after goldie locks, we wouldjust venture out there.
And that's how I knew aboutdaily city and one of my good
like I fangirled over him too DJQbert.
He used to.
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I mean, he still stays in DailyCity, you know the whole, yeah,
yeah, it's funny because me andmy friends we would watch old
videotapes videotapes, right,and you know they would record
them driving and like goingthrough the streets to his house
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and one of my buds he's likedude, I know that street, I know
that city, dude, let's make adrive out there.
So we reenacted that wholedriving scene and he was like,
yo, that's the house.
And I'm like, oh, my gosh, andthis is like before cell phones,
right.
So it's like we can't MapQuestanything, we can't Google
anything.
So we're like going off, likeour brain, on Remembering these
(04:30):
streets and these turns and umyeah, going back to the pad, we
watched the video.
Died dog we were there took ahot damn with him.
You know a camera, not aPolaroid, but uh, you know you.
Uh, you know a camera, not aPolaroid, but uh, you know you.
Uh, you could.
No, no, you could throw themaway.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It's like the click and then boop, and then you put
them in disposable cameras.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Disposables.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
We had.
We had like three or four ofthem, johns, and then, oh my God
, it was so freaking cool.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I always thought he was from Oakland, I
don't know why.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, I always thought he was from Oakland, I
don't know why, or that he livesin Oakland, maybe because I
used to go to you know, I usedto go to frisco.
A lot is hate street, the sameas it was like, say, 10, 20, 30
years ago, or is it like dirtiernow?
dirtier yeah, because I rememberwhen I was there it was that
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whole street.
You know you had, true, you hadwas it called Rasputin's or
something Like that record shop,because I used to DJ, I used to
go on there, but that wholestreet was like, it was such a
vibe.
Is it still like that, or is itmore like homeless people now
or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I actually haven't walked the street in a while.
I have driven past it and itseems the same to me okay I'm
not really sure.
I feel like most of thehomeless homelessness happens in
the city, like downtown, whereyou have all the like financial
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district and all that becauseall the stores are closed down
there and everyone works fromhome, so like that's why the
city is more occupied withhomeless people than hatred.
Hatred is like closer to thepark.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's like on that a little, a little more on the
outside rather than the centralpart of the city okay so it
could possibly still be the sameyeah, okay, um girl, because I
remember on hay there's like acourt, I don't say a couple
blocks up and I used to hoopthere too.
Hot damn ballers and stuff.
Um, have you, did you do anylike sports, you know, in high
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school or anything?
Or were you always like in theclassroom just hanging out?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
no, I.
I tried to do track in middleschool.
It didn't work out too well.
I tried to do volleyball.
That didn't work out too well.
I tried to do basketball.
That didn't do.
That didn't work out too well.
I've always danced, so likeanytime we had extracurular
things, I would try to dance,and then in high school I
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finally joined Westlake, theperforming arts school, and then
I just didn't stop dancingafter that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Oh, wow.
And with the whole dance thingand you said you've been doing
it for, like you know, a goodamount of change of your life,
has it changed from like backthen to how it is now, like the
whole dance community anddancing, or is it still the same
?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's totally different just because
generations have changed.
And then because there's TikToknow and everything like those
things online, then, like, um, Ifeel like there are some things
that are still the same, likehow people view then versus now,
um, what people are interestedin or what they care about, what
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they think about during classand all that.
I feel like that's always agenerational thing.
Like I feel like when I starteddancing, all the older people
that looked down on us I feellike that's us kids like oh, we
don't know any better.
You know what I mean, but itwas like yeah, yeah, yeah that's
when we started dancing.
So like everything's so cool.
(08:40):
Um.
So I'm sorry.
What was your original question?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh, holy crap, oh how did it change from when you
started to it is now.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh yeah, I think I can answer that better if it's
more specific, okay specific.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Um, uh, uh, uh, okay, teach, okay, uh, teaching wise
now, um, like you, uh, back inthe day, you know, we had, uh,
you had, teachers.
Right now it's like you couldlearn, like I guess you don't
even have to go to a studio.
How did that change the dynamicof, like, say, the dance studio
(09:26):
and that whole aura thing?
Since you can't, you know,since people are like learning
it like at home and instead oflike going to like a teacher.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, as a student, I can only speak for myself
because I'm going to yeah, yeah,definitely, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to for for me.
If I take class, I'm gonna tryto learn as best as possible.
Anyway, like I know my own workethic to um, I don't know.
I mean, there are times whereI'm like, okay, this person
isn't teaching that well andthen other times I'm like, wow
(09:57):
this, this instructor is like sogood at explaining things or I
can follow really well withoutwithout them having to go
through a bunch of details orsomething like that.
There's always yeah, just likethat, um and again.
As for me, as a student, I'mlike I'm gonna turn my heart no
matter what, um.
But I can tell you moredifferences as a teacher okay,
(10:19):
yeah um, before it is a littlebit I don't know if there's a
better word for this but I feellike it was a little bit easier
teaching students because thelevels of students that would
come into your class were moresimilar.
But then now, now it's a littlebit different, because there
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are a lot of students that justcome from work and then they
just want to dance.
It's not like everybody in theclass is there to train and get
better, and then you have anexpectation, you know.
But also I teach at a differentstudio, I don't teach at
Westlake anymore, so the dynamicof my students are always
different and I have differentlevels of students coming in and
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I have different intentions ofthe students coming in.
So I'm always trying to jugglelike, oh, do I teach more, do I
teach less?
Um, I can't really have anexpectation of them.
Like, oh, they're here to trainyeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, okay, okay.
How are you, as a teacher, like?
Do you, do you keep on goingthrough the same thing until a
student gets it?
Or are you all right, I got toget done with this piece, or
whatever, because other peoplelike, because you said there's
different types of levels inyour class, right, like, yeah,
(11:46):
do you stay?
Do you stay on that onespecific eight count, or
whatever, or do you keep ongoing on?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm so glad I thought about this before.
I thought about this recentlybecause I have I struggled for
the past year trying to figureout what my class was to
students yeah um, but I onlyhave an hour 15.
Usually classes are an hour 30,um, but an hour routine is not
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a lot and before the standard is.
Well, it could still be astandard now for most advanced
classes where you teach like 8to 12, eight counts uh-huh um, I
can only get through four.
Um, my, my class is advertisedas intermediate advanced.
(12:37):
Um, but the thing is like thelevel of students, it feels more
like, oh, I take a lot ofclasses, so I could like go into
this intermediate advancedclass and I first approached it
as an advanced class, but thennow I'm like I feel like I have
to approach it as anintermediate class and try to
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get them to advance.
Okay, and you could also be aclass where um advanced students
if they just want to like brushup on details or get a little
more insight on, like themechanics of your movement okay,
that makes, that makes lots ofsense, yeah but my main thing,
my main thing I'm always gaugingin class.
My main thing is like no matterwhat, I cannot leave anybody
behind.
Hey, okay, atta, girl, attagirl yeah.
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I feel really bad when I have,like, a really advanced student
in my class and they're kind ofwaiting around for me to get to
the next thing.
But there's a, there's a point.
Um, there's a point when you'reteaching something and then yeah
, like right, when all yourstudents like get there, then
it's like, okay, move on.
(13:53):
Like I don't want to stay onsomething too long and then, and
then I won't be able to teachthe rest of my piece.
But like, yeah, um, yeah, Idon't know, that's just my thing
.
I'm like I can't leave thisperson behind.
If someone has a question, I'mgonna answer it.
If, uh, you do one more time,I'm gonna answer it.
Like I'm gonna like have us doone more time.
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And so, um, yeah, at first itwas like I need to get through
this piece, but then like, yeah,it kind of messes with you when
, like you see people strugglingand then nobody's getting it,
just because I'm trying to rushthrough a piece, you know,
trying to yeah yeah, yeah intoclass time.
Um, but also another reason whyI I can only teach that much in
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an hour 15 is because I need towarm up and stretch oh, and that
takes up like what, like 15 to20 minutes.
Half of it is for me.
I need it so bad.
Another half is Is when I tellmy students to like okay,
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stretch our own.
They're just like standingthere and then, okay, dude, I.
I like, dude, I, I need my, Istill need my stretching time,
my damn yeah, I still have astretch time, but then I also
think that, like, um, when youwarm up your students or when
you stretch them out, you kindof give them an idea of the body
parts you need to use for thepiece oh, I've never.
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I've never heard that beforeyeah, like I'll kind of cater to
what my piece is like for theday.
If there's more stretchymovement or more extensions,
then I'll like do a lot ofbreathing or I'll do a lot of
like, like longer reaches for mystretches and warm-ups.
If I'm doing stuff that's moreheavyset on the like, uh, like
(15:44):
with my legs, and I'll warm up abit more than than others.
So yeah, it really depends.
If I just leave them to like gostretch, they'll do like this
one of these.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
They'll sit on the floor and then, like, touch
their leg, they'll touch theirfoot, like yeah, touch their leg
, they'll touch their foot.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
They're like yeah uh, uh, yeah.
I feel that, oh my God, excuseme Like you being in dance for,
like you know, for a cool minute.
Have you seen or have you everlike experienced and tried to
like be in the industry?
(16:25):
Like, have you ever experiencedand tried to be in the industry
?
Have you ever ventured thatroute?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, I hated, it, oh really.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Can you like?
Why did you hate it?
Is it like the hours?
Is it the people that you'recompeting against, or like
you're dancing with, or is itjust like the whole?
I think it's just the process,like I, the process okay yeah, I
couldn't stomach it I willadmit that I could not stomach
it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I didn't like it um oh, okay I like going to
auditions it.
It was hard to juggle becauseit was like I'm spending all my
time going to this, but I alsoneed to like make money somehow,
and then it was just hard inthat way and I also um, being
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typecasted really sucks beingwhat typecasted typecasted.
Okay, okay, okay it reallysucks, but I was also maybe like
25.
I feel like I was pretty youngback then to not be able to
accept that people won't like mefor the way I look.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh, no ways.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, Now I'm just kind of like okay.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's just whatever.
So were you too short, yourhaircut was too short.
Your, your haircut was too short, your hair was too long or like
it was mainly height, and thenyeah um, there's a ton of asian
people, so, like you know, ohokay well, it also could be my
dancing, maybe I just wasn'tthat good but okay yeah, just
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just the fact that I had to doso much to like get cut really
quickly was not worth it to meokay, so after, after like you
getting cut, was the bounce backsuper fast, or did you lay low
train or did you like ventureoff to do something else, like I
?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
don't know work at a jamba, oh what I was teaching at
the time.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I'm sorry to interrupt oh, no, no, no, you're
good, please do it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Do it all the time, it's all good oh I, I was
teaching at the time, so okaysince like that was getting more
traction than auditioning.
Then yeah, like well, I'm gonnago teach, if I, if I can make
money.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, and then I just did like gigs for jobs, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Like dance gigs.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
No, like there are agencies that like staffing
companies.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I forget what else I did, but just like short
part-time jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh, I guess, when you talk about staffing agencies, I
remember when I got out of Igot out of high school and I, um
, you know, I turned in myresume for a staffing agency.
Uh, and I was like like you, Iwas like at various jobs too.
I think one of my favorite oneswas selling paintings.
I don't know how, I don't knowwhy, but selling painting was
like super, like it was.
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It was one of my faves, becauseI'm like, I'm like talking to
you know, monterey, I'm talkingto old white people, right, and
I'm not trying to be, I'm nottrying to be racist, but it's
like I like hearing theirstories and I'm just like, oh,
for real, you live through thisera.
You came through, you know, onthe boat from italy or this in
the third, and I'm just like,wow, man, and it like it's a
plus if they bought a painting,right.
(19:51):
But just, you know peoplecoming in from like everywhere.
I'm just like, oh, hi, welcome.
So yeah, it was like one of myfavorite.
You know odd jobs to do andstuff.
What was your favorite?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
my favorite was e3.
Do you know e3 or remember e3?
No, you don't have it aroundanymore.
It's electronic entertainmentexpo uh-huh so it was this.
I guess you would call it agaming conference or a gaming um
uh, kind of like a, you know,crunchy roll, or like anime expo
(20:29):
, it's like that, but for videogames no way yeah, I.
I worked for um, a staffingcompany that always worked for
nintendo, so I was able to.
I was a video game demonstrator.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
That was my job for for like, like demonstrator on
like like say oh, these are thebuttons.
You just you push a to jump, bto dive, like something like
that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Or you just show them , such as yeah, like one year I
did um one year.
The game that nintendo put outwas super mario odyssey and then
the next year was zelda um, Iforgot what it was, but
basically I had to learn how todemo the game, so they left me
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alone to play it for like 10 to20 minutes, and then the entire
day I would have to like showpeople how to play it, and then
I'd have to basically say likeokay, your time's up.
Aggie, I'm freaking out like thenext level, what the hell it
(21:40):
actually stops at a certainpoint, like if they okay, okay,
the demo, then like, their demois done.
But if they I think there'slike a certain time limit where
they can play, like let's sayit's like five or ten minutes
when their time is done, thenit'll just like blackout.
And then the next person it wasreal restart.
Oh, I got to meet the voice ofMario.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Okay, okay, Okay, describe Is it a him or her?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's a him.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, describe him.
Does he look like Mario ortotally different?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't know.
I think he like smiles, likeMario.
Does he have the?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
stache.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, he doesn't Okay, okay okay.
But he was in the wild.
That okay, okay, okay that'sfreaking wild man.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Oh, dude yeah cuz I love, I love me some beer.
Were you a game gaming nerd aswell?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
no, but my brother older brother playing live video
games and he'd always make mewatch him play oh that's how I
know video games.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Oh, so you don't dabble, you don't play like, say
, Super Smash Brothers or any ofthose games Like what is that?
Mario Go Kart or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Mario Kart.
I love Mario Kart.
I have a.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You have a Switch?
Oh, are you on Animal Crossing?
I have it, but I don't play itokay, I know people that are
addicted to it after thepandemic, so like oh I'm doing
other things now oh, attagirl,attagirl um hold on, hold on,
(23:20):
but um hold on.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You need this, that's .
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Oh, final Fantasy, I girl, I love that game so far.
Cloud, oh my gosh, I tried tosee it, uh-huh, and then what
happened?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I stopped after I died oh my god but.
But I can tell you, though, myfavorite rpg is super mario,
super mario rpg, and I did beatthat game, hey at a girl.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
How, how long did it take you to beat that game?
Was it months, or was it likewas it a straightforward game to
where you knew how to like,beat different levels and beat
different bosses?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
yeah, I um.
You know those the'readventuring through the land,
right yeah in an RPG game.
It like like an adventure game,kind of not really.
But you're basically trying toget to your next destination or
look for clues or whatever, andthen you have yeah your enemies
walking around.
When you bump into them, thenyou fight them.
You know, yes, it's like attack, run, magic, like all that's
(24:49):
cool, yeah, yeah so for all ofthose, I would fight all of them
, just so I could, just so Icould level up, and then I could
be easier to to fight the bossor yeah, yeah, yeah you're
enemies and that is like thebest way, how I got through the
game.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So in this game was there like puzzles, too, that
you couldn't figure out, or ittook you a long time to like
damn, where is this key thatwill open this door or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
To be honest, I feel like, can you pause?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, just go, Let it run, Just go, Just go
.
Maybe that's her door dashy'all.
She probably got like some fooddelivered or something.
(25:45):
Maybe her laundry is done.
And oh, I was commentating.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
One second, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Hold on, it's gonna be a while You're good, you're
good, you're good Shit.
It's gonna be a while I'm gonnause the bathroom Shit.
It's gonna be a while I'm gonnause the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, not yet.
Okay, I'll get you guys somewater.
Okay, you guys will be good.
Relax, I'm still on.
Okay, okay, it's obvious, Ineed a cold.
(28:13):
I'm just wondering, here, thereyou go, if it's too cold, you
can sit over there, so the windis not too cold.
Okay, I think it's alright now,but you can charge your phone
to your bed.
Ouch what, oh, daddy, daddy,yes, safi, can you help me open
(29:17):
the tree?
Come here, saf, cheese, did youtry opening it?
Be careful, cheese.
(29:39):
Okay, there, be careful.
Thank you, babe.
Thank you, babe.
Thank you, rara, love you, loveyou too.
Okie, dokie, oh hi, welcomeback, I'm back.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yay, thank you for waiting.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Oh no, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I was just saying Are you going to cut?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
that I can.
But I mean it's cool because Ilike the raw footage, so it's
all gravy.
I was just saying, oh, I waslike that could be like Comcast
or Spectrum.
You know, working on her cable,yeah he's not that one, you
know.
Oh, he's your landlord.
Yeah, oh, auntie uncle, sorry,auntie uncle, oh man, oh gosh,
(30:37):
okay, uncle, oh man, um, oh gosh, okay, let's try and get back.
Um, do you have any questionsfor me?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
uh, while I try, to think of, uh, something um, have
you always wanted to podcast oh, hell, no, um, let me tell.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So back in the day I'll tell, I'll give you a brief
story.
Uh, back in the day I'll giveyou a brief story, back in the
day, and this is going to tellmy age.
Right, I was big on Tumblr, soI blogged.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
How old do you think I am?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I think you're.
I want to say because you werelike oh, I was pretty young back
then and I was like 25.
So I'm going to say you'reprobably in your either late 20s
or maybe early 30s Older.
Holy crap Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
What if we're the same age?
Or do you know you're olderthan me?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know what?
I think I'm older than you, butokay, what, what, what?
When did you graduate highschool?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
that would be me.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, oh for real, okay, um, let's see what social
media did you use?
Myspace okay um, I was on.
Okay, very first one was AOL.
Were you on AOL?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
ASL pick Dude.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Those are my initials , so whenever somebody would say
that I'm like, how'd you know?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
No way.
What's the S?
What's the S in your?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
name Santos, my middle name, my mom's name.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Oh Wow, it's like ASL .
Pick Okay middle name my mom's.
Oh wow, it's like oh, it's sobig.
Uh, okay, so you were on that.
Um, so you're on a.
I am, I guess, right.
Did you have a nokia?
Yes okay, I had a nokia.
Did you have a pager?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
no, but my cousin did .
I wanted one like.
What would I use it for?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Okay, I think we might be the same, like around
the same age.
Then Hold on.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did you play outside as a kid?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, of course I had to be back home before the
lights came on, and yeah so Kidscan't do that nowadays, can
they?
No way, I think kids nowadays,depending on the parent, right
Some kids be staying out late,you know, oh, yeah, like I was a
(33:03):
badass kid but I tried to behome before, you know, before
the lights came on.
But you know, since my dadbecause I grew up with a dad,
not with a mom my dad was alwaysworking so he wouldn't know,
and then we didn't have ringsback then.
So it's like it's hard to keeptrack of a person you know.
So, yeah, oh, okay, you're yourage.
(33:25):
Um, three-way, did you usethree-way a lot?
Yes, okay, that sums it up.
So you were on the phone, youwere on three-way, Okay, did?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
you wear JNCOs.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Caller ID on wireless Star 69?
Star 69.
If you want to block yournumber star 68 or some stuff
right?
Oh my gosh, yes, okay, yes okayyeah, okay, we're, we're, oh,
we're in the same genre.
I mean, we're in the same,we're the same group, okay.
So coming back, um, I used toblog on tumblr a lot.
Um, uh, uh, I wrote in highschool.
My, uh, my english teacher waslike, hey, this is pretty good.
(34:09):
You should, like, you know, uh,submit it somewhere.
I was like, no man, you'relying.
So, um, I kept on blogging.
Finally I was like, yo, I'mgonna submit it to huffington
post.
Hopefully, you know, yeah,hopefully it goes good.
Huffington post hits me back upand says, hey, your stuff is
good, but it's something thatyou're not, we're not looking
into.
So, um, after that I got intothe army, stopped blogging and
(34:34):
then in during the in the army,um, one of my friends was like
hey, do you want to start apodcast with me?
I was like hell, I'm down, I'mopen to new things.
I didn't know what I was doing.
So I was a co-host for, um, apodcast, a military podcast
called more than a uniformthat's cool so, yeah, so the the
premise is that is that, uh,we're all we wear this uniform,
(34:54):
right, but it's what we do on,you know, like when we put on
our civilian clothes.
So there's a lot of people thathave, you know, side hustles,
um, people that are in bands andstuff.
Uh, they do a lot of, uh likeentrepreneur work when the
uniform comes off.
And we talked to a lot ofspouses too, because we wanted
to know what spouses would dowhen, uh, their other half is,
(35:19):
you know, defending the country,right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
So I was on that, yeah huh, I have a question yeah
, oh, go ahead don't go uh me umare people that are active in
the military.
Are you allowed to make moneywhile you're active?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
yes, uh, it's like it's frowned upon.
But the answer is yes, um, butthe job can't, cannot interfere
while you're being a soldier,you know, because you're always
a soldier first.
So let's say you have a sidegig at working at walmart, right
, you can't go to your likecommander and say, hey, uh, I
can't be in today because I'mworking at walmart.
(36:00):
No, it's uh, the the militarytrumps your other job.
And if, if, uh, let's say ifyour job and the military like
coincides, if there's like anydiscrepancies or whatever, your
(36:23):
commanding team will go to themanager of your job and say, hey
, pfc, um, pfc jenkins, hey,he's not working here anymore.
Please give him his check.
He has an obligation to theunited states military.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
United States military, but you could make
passive income.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Oh yeah, people do a lot of what's it called Uber.
Uber is like super big in themilitary and the reason why it's
big is because people could geton and off post, opposed to a
civilian doing Uber.
They cannot, you know.
So they actually have like ahead up in that game in a sense,
(36:57):
or like delivering pizzas orworking at the commissary.
A commissary is like a Safeway,but on post, so that's side gig
.
But usually if you have jobslike that, like if you work on a
military post, they're like oh,you have an assignment coming
(37:19):
up.
They're like they're superlenient to.
Okay, we'll hold your job, justlet us know when you come back
and you can start again.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, so, continuing on, I did more than uniform.
My boy got an assignment and heasked me to stay on and I was
like, dude, this is your stuff.
I feel uncomfortable whenyou're on this like nine month
assignment.
I feel weird doing it by myself.
So I asked people around and Iwas like yo, do you think I
could make my blogs into apodcast?
(37:49):
And people saying, yes, just doit, you have the personality
for it.
And I was like I don't knowabout the personality part, but
I do have some good stories.
So, um, yeah, I transitioned toto this thing and I've been
doing it for, I'm gonna say,like two and a half years now by
myself and uh, dude, it's superfun and, like to me, it's like
it's therapeutic I can see that.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, you do have a personality for it.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That's what I think oh, oh, oh, manang, thank you,
man, thank you, thank you,manang, sounds so old.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh, auntie, oh when you first called me that, I was
like why am I, why, why do I Ifeel disrespected right now,
right?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Why, why do I feel disrespected right now?
Right, are you a what I wasgonna say?
What genre of Filipino, whatFilipino are you?
Are you Ilocano Tagalog Visayan?
Come on Baro.
Hey, do you speak the language?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I try to speak it more than Tagalog.
I understand the gist of both,but when it comes to specific,
what do you call it?
Specific words, like if it wasa and, versus and or like.
I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, like the connecting words, you know.
Yeah, Not too much, but likewords I can.
I can like kind of put asentence together.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Are you good enough to keep a conversation going?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, but it'll be broken.
It'll probably be like half andhalf.
I'll speak an English word if Idon't know the Kampong Pongan
word.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Girl, I'm the same way.
I'm the same way as well.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, so my aunties, I see my older aunties now a
little more often.
So when I see them I try totake advantage of being able to
speak Kampong Pangan to them.
I really try and want to getcomfortable because, um, because
(39:56):
my older brother, he has kidsbut then he doesn't use a
language on them and yeah, andlike, we understand it and my
brother can speak it to acertain extent, but it's not his
everyday language.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, and so I just I kind of don't want it to be
lost.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Um, and I heard it's not his everyday language, yeah,
and so I just I kind of don'twant it to be lost, and I heard
it's a dying language too, soI'm like trying to keep as much
as I can with it.
And there are barely any bookson the language too.
I tried searching for stuffonline but, mainly like symbolic
stuff or very very fewreferences online.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Oh, because on the island we have a lot of ilicanos
and people that speak tagalog.
So I was I don't want to say Iwas forced, but um, when I see
like the old aunties and uncles,I try to speak the language,
but it's all.
It all comes into illocano,tagalog and Bisaya, and I'm just
like, oh man, and they laughbecause they know what I'm
trying to say.
But I understand all thedialects fluently.
(41:05):
I still watch Filipino moviesand stuff.
So it's like, yeah, I canunderstand it, but then, when it
comes to speaking, I'm likefreak me man, like I'm having a
hard time.
So I try to, uh, I do what youdo, like speak it in english as
well, hoping they know what thatword means.
And then when it comes to thekids, it's like, uh, I, I kind
(41:28):
of force them to watch, uh, youknow, like at least 20 minutes
of like filipino movies with meyeah, no, yeah, because I'm like
man, y'all gotta learn this.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
At least 20 minutes of like filipino movies with me.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, no yeah, because I'm like man.
Y'all gotta learn this stuffbecause you're eating my
filipino food might as well, youknow.
So, yeah, like they, they, theyknow stuff, they just can't
speak it yet I feel like they'llpick it up.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So are they young, like really young?
Yeah, six and eight oh okay,yeah, yeah, I feel like if
they're around it or if theyhear six and eight oh okay, yeah
.
Yeah, I feel like if they'rearound it or if they hear it
often, then they'll pick it upfaster than if they were older.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Oh, definitely yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
But sometimes when I'm out in the world and I'll go
to like a Filipino bakery orsomething, and then I hear
people speaking Kabongpangan.
I want to speak it to them.
So bad.
But when I try and only a fewwords come out.
They're yeah they're, um,they're skeptical to speak it to
me because I feel like I don'tknow what they're thinking or
(42:26):
feeling.
But I feel like they are likeoh, she doesn't know,
kabangpangan that well, so likeI'm not going to respond to her
in a couple of bongan you know,no way yeah, have you ever?
I can only assume.
But like, when I try to, theyjust like continue to respond to
me in english or they'll belike oh yeah, and then like I
(42:46):
don't get any any response andI'm like please speak a little
bong, speak to me because, oh,that's, that's like the aunties
and uncles like giving you shade, that's like their way.
They're like yeah yeah, I hate,I'm like, wait, I'm trying girl
, I'm the same way too.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm the same way.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I'm just like, come on, man you know what my auntie
does um, and she doesn't do iton purpose, I think it's just
out of habit.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
My auntie.
I try to speak Kapampangan toher, but she'll talk to me in
Tagalog.
And then my cousin is like no,mom, kapampangan.
Respond to her Kapampangan,yeah yeah, yeah.
But then she still does Tagalog.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
But my auntie is like 80 years old, so like, ah, okay
, okay, okay.
So do you find yourself likespeaking Tagalog more than
Kampang, pangan or Ilocano orwhatever?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
no, I find myself speaking more Kampang Pangan
than okay, okay, that's good,that's good.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
So, um, you grew up in a Kampang Pangan household,
yeah, so are the dishesdifferent, or are the
ingredients different from, like, say, ilocano or Tagalog dishes
?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I don't know the difference.
I don't know if I've had anIlocano dish.
What's an Ilocano dish?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Well, I don't know.
I was always taught likekilawin was an Ilocano dish.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Kilawin.
So it's goat and then you'resupposed to like it's a bar food
.
So it's goat, ginger, greenonion, garlic and stuff you like
.
You cook the goat or you frythe goat or whatnot, and it's
supposed to be some type of barfood that you're supposed to
have like with a beer or RedHorse or whatever.
But it's cold, like it'ssupposed to be, not frozen but
(44:38):
it's refrigerated.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
It's cooked and then refrigerated.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, so it's supposed to be served cold.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Oh, I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Really Okay.
How about sisig?
I know you had sisig, I lovesisig.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay, I love it too.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
So is that a tagalog dish, or is that?
I feel like that's a tagalogdish.
Okay, but does kapang?
Do they have their own way ofmaking a sisig dish?
I feel like they make it thetagalog way okay my favorite is
bongos oh, dude, you okay, okay,okay, and this is gonna uh,
this is gonna sound kind ofgnarly like to the listeners and
(45:16):
stuff.
Do you eat it with bagoong oralmang or anything?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
oh shoot.
You know what?
I'm pretty like basic when itcomes to food so okay, so
vinegar.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Then you just dip it in vinegar vinegar lemon yeah
yeah okay, but bag bonas isstill good, though you know it
just makes your house smellfunky.
But I mean, hot damn, like thecrunch and like after you take
out all the bones, you'restraight.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Dude, I'll pick that over the pork or chicken.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
No, lechon cavalli.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
No, no, no, Um pork seasick Like I like it but I
don't know why.
I just like boneless really.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Is it the way that it's made like?
Is it the oil, or is it just Ijust fried, or is it the fish?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I think because it reminds me of tilapia and in my
house we always had like tilapiaand rice yeah so that could be
why I like it more are you a bigrice eater?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
no or do you?
No, yeah, but you know, stayaway from the carbs well now,
yeah, as a kid, all I okay.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
As a kid, all I ate was rice and tabal from the
sinigang.
No meat, no vegetables no, no,you're a typical kid I'm like
maybe that's why I'm so short,glittered you didn't need enough
freaking pork or whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Oh my god, my kids are the same way too.
It's.
That's funny because you saidthat because they'll drink,
they'll have the soup and thenjust the rice.
And I'm like dude, what's upwith the vegetables?
Like no, I'm okay, I'm likewhatever.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I hated salad as a kid uh-huh like I don't know, I
just my parents never made meeat anything uh-huh um, as in
like, you have to eat this, theyjust like oh let me eat what I
wanted to eat.
Yeah, and so in fifth grade,when I went to outdoor ed, I was
(47:20):
out.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
What's that?
What's outdoor ed?
What is that?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
It's like this camp that fifth graders go to.
They sell chocolate so they canfundraise to go to a camp for a
week.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Is that like a science camp thing?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
No, it's just like oh , you're just like out of nature
and like, do camp stuff oh okay, survive right but you're,
you're in cabins, so okay, ohokay, cool, cool, cool um, but,
but you go with other schools oh, that's pretty cool, that's
pretty fun.
Um, and in outer red I had alunch table that I didn't want
(47:53):
to be part of because the tableleader she was in I think she
was in high school she made meeat my salad.
She wouldn't let me leave mytable unless I ate my salad, and
I hated it because every time Itried to eat it I would like
gag.
Oh no, Was there any dressingor was it just straight greens?
And I hated it because everytime I try to eat it.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I would like gag like I.
Oh no, was there any dressingor was it just straight greens?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I can't remember, maybe there was a little bit of
dressing, but every time I wouldlike sit, I Remembered this
vividly.
I, every time I would sit, andthen the salads in front of my,
in front of my face, like shewould go Some more, like she
would.
She would look at me and belike, eat some more, and I'm
just like girl, you're, you'retrauma that brought like I could
(48:43):
eat that all the time now I canokay, okay, okay but then at
the time it was like I wanted tocry.
I wanted to cry because I didn'twant to eat my greens.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Oh my gosh, what is your go-to food?
Like, say, back in the day thatbrought, like that's still your
go-to food now.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Egg, rice and ketchup .
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Okay With egg, rice and ketchup Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
I'll eat it with regular ketchup or Geoffran.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
The banana ketchup.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, which is what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Is it bandit over there?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
We have a lot of it over here it's discontinued.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You do yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Like you go to like, let's say like a lot like a
lion's market.
We call it, yeah, we.
And then the little Filipinoshops and stuff.
They still have rows and rowsand rows of the banana ketchup.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I'll send you a care package, girl I got you.
I'll send you like these littlebottles.
Be like hey man, merryChristmas, kwanzaa and Hanukkah,
I'll hook you up.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I'll hook you up All of our Asian stores the shelves
are empty Really.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, it's cuz of that red 40 stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, yeah, like if this was my bottle.
I have like this much left.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
I'm trying to you to say, hey, put a little bit of
water, shake it up.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
You only do that for You'll be good.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
You only do that for oh yeah, hey, that's.
Hey, I do that a lot.
That's funny because my dadused to say, like when we're
running low on stuff, he's like,oh, just add a little bit of
water, shake it up.
And yeah, did you.
Okay growing up and you knowthis might be like a Joe Coy,
you know kind of story, butVicks Was Vicks used a lot while
(50:42):
you were growing up, like thewhole underneath your nose,
underneath your eyes, underneathyour feet.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
No, but my grandma used it, but it was never used
on us oh that's good.
Yeah, my grandma liked itthough.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, Tiger Bomb.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Oh, tiger Bomb, yeah, yeah, tiger Bomb, okay.
Okay, let me ask you this whenwas the last time you visited
the PI, the Philippines, likeyour homeland, like 2010.
2010.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
That was the only time I visited.
Were you like in the provinceor were you like in like Manila,
like the general popular parts,like Baguio or Manila?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Both it was because it was a layover.
So I went to Macau for a dancetrip with Westbrook, and then
going there and then going home.
We had like two to three dayseach way.
So when I first got there Ivisited my dad's side of the
(51:48):
family and then, on the way backhome, I stayed in Manila with
the rest of my friends ah, okay,okay.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
So growing up, let me ask you this, let me you know,
stay on the topic of Philippineswhen you're going up.
Did you were like, say, youraunts and uncles and everyone
older than you?
Did they ever tell you like anyPhilippine paranormal ghost
stories?
Speaker 2 (52:14):
No oh.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
I.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Would just see a swan on TV.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Okay, okay.
Did you ever believe in that?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
like I'm so scared of the dark dude like even now,
yeah, even if I know something'snot real.
Um, paranormal stuff creeps meout like freaks me out not freak
me out, but like freaks me out.
And then, and I just alwayshave this image of a girl in
(52:46):
white and like her hair ismessed up.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You know, that's like black and like in her face.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, like the ring girl, but then that's what also
the Filipino.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, the white lady.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, the white lady yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
So so you say you're, so you say you're afraid of
dark.
So when you leave, like, say,your room, your domicile, do you
have like a nightlight, or isyour lamp on before you dip out,
or are you okay with?
Oh, is it?
Speaker 2 (53:17):
wow, I need to sleep with the lights off, so Wow, I
need to sleep with the lightsoff.
So the only thing that's on atnight is my Echo.
It has like a blue light orlike a yellow light, and then
one of my outlets has like a Idon't know.
(53:39):
There's like a light that comesout of one of the plugs that I
my smart plug has, like a lightthat just says that it's on and
then that's like good enough forit to be on.
Well, other than that, I Ican't see what the light on
because my eyes are sensitive.
So if you turn the light on.
I can wake up from that.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Really.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
You're like yeah, yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
You're like uh, yeah, it sucks because I don't like
the dark, but then I need it tobe dark so I can sleep you know,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, that always happens to me.
Oh, so how are you when there'slike, let's say, a blackout or
whatever?
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I'm like against the wall, are you?
Speaker 1 (54:21):
really it's like hey, hold up, hey guys, hold the
fuck up.
I'm chilling.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Dude, even when I'm sleeping, if I'm sleeping on my
side, I need to have my backcovered, because I just feel
like something's going to touchme or something.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Oh, really, have you ever slept with your foot over
the bed?
Oh, like at the edge of the bed, you know, like how your feet
hangs off your bed.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I want to.
So bad I want to so bad, but Isleep on my back most of the
time and I have found that whenI do have my feet like out of
the covers or hanging off of thebed.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
I get sleep paralysis .
No way.
Yeah, this is every time, everytime.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
So what I started doing?
Because I love God so much, Isay I'm like I rebuke you in the
name of Jesus and like, dude,I'm not gonna lie.
The last time I had sleepparalysis and I started, I said
it while while it was happening.
(55:30):
It stopped within like a fewseconds.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Really.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, and then it just, I feel like I haven't been
bothered since.
But I, but because I'm scared,I still can't have my feet on
Hiding off the bed.
But because I'm scared, I stillcan't have my feet on the bed,
hiding off the bed, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
So for people that don't know what sleep paralysis
is, can you give like a briefdescription on what that is?
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah Well, for me it feels like you're immobile, you
can't move, you can't yell,you're basically like you can't
do anything.
You feel like you're stuck inyour body, and then it just but
you're aware, though, right,you're aware it feels like
(56:14):
somebody is pushing down on yourchest and going like this to
you so you can't move.
And then when you're trying tosay something, it's like what oh
?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
So you had one of those.
Was this like an ongoing thing?
Speaker 2 (56:35):
It would happen occasionally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
And then I noticed it happened the most when I didn't
have my feet covered.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
So do you sleep with your socks on or off?
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Usually off, but because it's cold now, then I
have them on and then sometimesthey just end up off.
I wake up and then I sleep.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Girl, let me tell you , when I sleep with my socks on,
I'm missing a left sock.
In the morning I'm like what amI doing in my sleep to have one
sock on?
You move around man, girl, itman, it happens all the time.
I'm like.
Even my sister and my brotherare like hey, dude, why is your
sock in the living room and youslept with them on in the
(57:20):
bedroom?
I'm like dog.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
I don't know, honestly, huh no, I don't think
I do, no, no I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
I stay in the same bed or this couch or whatever.
I don't move.
But no, I've never seen I dolike move, like say, I wake up
and I'm like man, I can't goback to sleep, and then I sit
down somewhere else.
I do that, but I don't think Isleepwalk.
I'm 99.9?
Sure I don't, but if I do that,0.1, oh gosh, no wonder my sock
(57:48):
is not on, man, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Sometimes it's tough to wear your socks, though.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
It's what.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Stuffy.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Girl, man, I don't know, I just don't like my feet,
but I feel comfortable in mysocks though.
So it's like, yeah, but inhawaii, girl, you have to like
have them off, because it, youknow, be hot, that stuff be
stanking.
I'm telling you right now, likethat whole flip-flop thing,
like I hate flip-flops, so I'llbe wearing, I'll be wearing
(58:18):
slides and crocs and shit, but,dude, the whole, the whole, you
know, this is your, this is yourtoe, the whole, something in
your toe, this middle part, it'sso uncomfortable to me man.
You got the ninja feet.
At the end of the day, I'm likeno dude, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Those are actually uncomfortable to me oh the
chinelas.
Yeah, but I wear the ones thatgo over like this oh, okay, okay
, this might be funny.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Um, do you wear sandals that your feet or your,
you know the tip of your toes?
Are they like over?
You know the front of yoursandal?
No good egg at a girl, because,because I see the old aunties
and then, yeah, they wearsandals and their foot, the toes
, is like over it.
(59:09):
I'm like dude.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
I think you stretched out your sandals.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Right, but that is so funny.
Yeah, that's so funny.
Well, aggie, that was fun, thatwas Girl.
Thank you so much for coming onand chopping it up with me.
Man, I do appreciate you somuch Thank you for having me
Girl.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Oh dude, hella, Hella .
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I didn't say hella.
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Oh, my bad, I thought you said hello.
My fault, sorry, my bad man, mybad.
Do you have any shout outs oranything before we dip out?
Speaker 2 (59:54):
shout out to my Lord and Savior, jesus Christ.
I'm being for real, I love Godso much like wholeheartedly.
In another conversation I wouldtell you how.
I tried everything, likeeverything, and then I found god
and I'm like, I feel like awhole new person oh, you know
(01:00:18):
what?
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
that is a good conversation, because I've gone
through that too, like I wasraised Catholic, then I lost my
faith, then I went somewhereelse and then I found GOD.
So yeah dude.
We'll definitely have anotherepisode on that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
It's okay to say his name.
Man, it's okay to say his name.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Oh, okay, got it, thank you.
Wait, wait, yeah, before we dipdip out.
You say you're into god.
Um, did you go to church todayor are you going later?
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I know um all the services are done for today.
I did not go today, but yeah, II was online today for the
sermon oh oh, okay, okay, hey,respect, respect you.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
You know you talk to the Lord, so respect to that,
respect to that yeah hell yeah,um yeah, hell yeah, ko studios.
Thank you for the lovely home.
Um Rafi bite.
Thank you for the lovely vibe.
My man, I do appreciate youwith that.
I'm Chris.
I'm Aggie hell yeah, and we outthis bitch peace.
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