July 8, 2025 • 53 mins
What happens when science and relationships collide? Lovina, a PhD student specializing in anti-aging biology, joins Chris to explore this fascinating intersection while sharing her unique journey from Indonesia to Hawaii.
Born in Indonesia and having left at age 14 for Seattle before eventually settling in Hawaii, Lovina immediately felt at home in the islands. "Hawaii is a lot like Indonesia," she explains, noting the similarities in climate, culture, and friendly people that made her transition seamless. This geographical compatibility becomes a backdrop for her scientific pursuits and personal growth.
As a researcher focused on the genetic aspects of aging, Lovina debunks common misconceptions about anti-aging products while confirming that exercise and diet remain the two most significant factors in slowing the aging process. She offers a rare glimpse into the unglamorous reality of laboratory work, including late-night visits to feed stem cells, demonstrating the dedication required in scientific research. Her content creation journey emerged naturally from wanting to document these experiences while promoting local businesses, creating a unique niche that bridges academic research with everyday life.
The conversation delves into cultural influences, particularly how growing up in an Asian household shaped Lavina's perspective. "My dad would never say 'I'm proud of you' – only what I needed to improve," she reflects, noting how this upbringing affects her current relationship dynamics, especially with her boyfriend whose primary love language is words of affirmation. This cultural contrast reveals how deeply childhood experiences influence adult relationships and communication styles.
From Chinese New Year traditions to the science of mosquito preferences based on blood types, Lovina's diverse knowledge base creates an engaging narrative that weaves together science, culture, and personal growth. Follow Lovina on Instagram @lovina_28 to continue following her scientific journey and daily adventures in Hawaii.
• Indonesia's similarities to Hawaii make it feel like home despite moving away at age 14
• Creating content to share her scientific research and promote local businesses
• Anti-aging research focusing on genetic factors rather than cosmetic products
• Exercise and diet remain the two most important factors in slowing aging
• Meeting her boyfriend at church and developing friendship before romance
• Quality time as her primary love language, despite difficulty giving words of affirmation
• Growing up in an Asian household with high expectations shaped her approach to achievement
• Lab work sometimes requires feeding stem cells at 11pm
• Chinese New Year traditions including not cleaning, washing hair, or wearing black and white
• Blood type potentially influencing who gets more mosquito bites
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Welcome back to another episodeof the relationship method
podcast.
I'm chris and today I got avery special guest, a very
lovely guest, by the name oflavina yay Girl, welcome to the
podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you for having me Girl.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No, thank you thank you Before we get this going,
lavinia, how did I get the yesfrom you to come on?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I saw that you did some podcast with MJ so I'm
like if she did it, then it's acool podcast hey shout out to MJ
Meow, meow, meow, meow.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Appreciate you, girl, hope you're doing good.
Hell, yeah, hey, that's youknow what.
Thank you.
I do appreciate you for comingon and, lovina you said there
was traffic here earlier todaycoming in Right here earlier
today coming in from a town andpeople that don't know where
town is.
That's Waikiki area.
Yeah, that type of situation,right, right, yeah.
(01:12):
What did you see?
Or what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
There's a really bad accident.
I think there's over like sixcars on the side of the street,
so I'm not too sure whathappened but yeah, oh, my
goodness, um, you've been onthis island for a good amount of
years, right?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
yeah, um, from a scale from one to ten, uh, how
can you?
Uh, what do you grade thesedrivers?
Because I know you've beensomewhat around the world.
What do you think of the localdriving?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
out here.
Honestly, they're pretty safe,Like a lot safer than California
drivers for sure I was about tosay that, yeah.
And they drive a lot slower.
Oh, yeah, they do, butsometimes I don't know.
Sometimes it's these touriststoo, oh true facts, yeah, so
grade them.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Grade them Like from 1 to 10.
1 being worse, 10 being.
I don't need to watch my sideview mirror.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I mean, they're actually really nice.
So I would say, like maybe a 6or a 7 out of 10.
Hey, 6 or 7.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You just got graded Hawaii.
Um, do you have you thrown theshocker lately too?
Do you do that?
The shocker Like yeah, yeah,like, oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You and I talked earlier and you're from
Indonesia?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, I was born there, oh my goodness, yeah, I
was born there, oh my goodness,what's the?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
how long you been in Indonesia for?
Oh like, how long did I livethere?
Yeah, until you dipped out.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So I left when I was 14 and then I moved to Seattle,
basically for college, okay, Ooh, she educated y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So 14,.
I bet a lot has changed inIndonesia.
Was there like a culture shockwhen you hit Hawaii from
Indonesia?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Hawaii, do you?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
see like big differences.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Honestly, hawaii is a lot like Indonesia, so yeah,
that's why it feels like homehere too, hey okay, that's
what's up.
Everyone's really friendly andyou know the weather.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's a lot like Indonesia Shut up, so it's like
the humidity and sometimes youget your cold days and shit too.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Indonesia is a little more
humid than here.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh, I can't do that, then Fuck that yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
No, I don't go out at all, oh really especially with
our hair.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Our hair will get frizzed the hell up.
You feel me?
Yeah, no ways.
And then, um like, uh, I followyou and you know I seen your
content.
What got you into?
You know that space like intocontent creating.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, content creating.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And then how did you blow up from there?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
oh, I don't know if I blow up yet, but girl you, you
blow, you blown up.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, I mean, it's not being so humble and
modest.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I honestly, it's just for fun.
I just wanted to share my storyand share, you know, like
promote local businesses heretoo, because, yeah, I do enjoy
like going out to eat there,like doing activities here and
there, and then, at the sametime, I want to share my stories
because not a lot of peopleknow what I do, because it's,
(04:36):
you know, we're stuck in a labmost of the time, or like in a
computer, and it feels likethey're always asking me like,
oh, what do you actually do likein the lab?
Or what do you do as a phdstudent, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So I'm like, well, I'm just gonna share my story
here yeah and then, yeah, Iguess people want to tune in hey
yeah, I love, I love how youexplained that, because a lot of
uh like people, they like theauthenticity of, like genuine
people living their everydaylife.
You know they're not trying topromote a drink or a club or
(05:12):
whatever.
It's just them doing everydaythings and also it's a.
It gives a sense of normalcy touh.
Is that, is that a word?
Phd, is that a word?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I don't't know, she don't even know, babe.
Yeah, I don't have a PhD inEnglish, sorry, oh stop.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, you said a PhD, right.
What's the major?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So I major in biology , wow.
But my main research is onanti-aging Shut up For real.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, it's been a while, wow, okay.
So do you believe these creamsthat are coming out?
You know that the celebs aretrying to promote and sell.
Are they worth the buck?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like the creams, like the face creams, I guess yeah.
Honestly, I'm not too surebecause I know I deal with more
of like the genetic side oh,okay like oh um, does exercise
help you?
Or like, does this specificgene help you age slower?
(06:15):
But sometimes I feel like thesecreams are just so like well
advertised that everyone is intoit, but you don't know the
exact ingredients in it, right?
So, I don't know.
Until I see the exactingredients in it, I can't tell
you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh, snap, okay, so is exercise good for the skin.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It is, it's really good.
So exercise and diet are thetwo main factors that can slow
aging.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It could slow aging.
Girl, my knees feel likethey're 80 years old and I don't
know if it's because I'm in themilitary, I don't know if it's
the way I'm eating, but, girl, Ifeel broken down.
I'm sure you're doing great ohmy god I'd be waking up with.
I need Bengay Tiger Balm.
Sometimes I need a Rubix.
(07:04):
Oh god, I need all that stuff,girl um anti-aging uh okay, okay
, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So um sweat is sweat good for, like say, the skin I
mean as long as you, um, I guess, take a shower after and
moisturize after I think itshould be okay because it does
um.
From sweating, you're alsoburning fats, right?
(07:32):
Yeah yeah, so it is good, okay,okay, cool, cool, it's how you
deal with it after okay, allright.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
so I'm to stick to skin because I have like some
sort of a personal question.
My kid gets bitten up a lot,right so, and it's funny because
his sister and us we don't getas much bitten as he does.
So what is he?
(08:01):
Is it something that he'seating, or is it he's sweating,
some sort of something else?
Why is he getting bitten morethan us?
He would come up with six bites, us we'd come up with either
one or none.
What do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You mean with mosquitoes, right?
No, not mosquitoes.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Maybe in the home or something.
Okay, yeah, maybe mosquitoes.
Well, you know what?
Skip the mosquitoes, let's justtalk about, like at home Like
we keep the house very clean,right, our dogs don't have fleas
or ticks or whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Right, right, he just gets.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know like he'll find a bite here or there.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Wash his bedding.
Maybe it could be the blood too.
Oh yeah, so it might not alwaysbe the skin.
Uh-huh, I am not entirely sure.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I know she's not a pathologist, yeah, but yeah, oh,
so it could be, I don't want togive you like the wrong
information.
Well, damn it, girl Right, Sayit with confidence and I'll
believe whatever you say itmight.
Say it with confidence, andI'll believe whatever you say.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It might be the blood too, because at least with
mosquitoes.
You know it's the blood typeright, like if you're blood type
O, then you might get bitten alot more really so if I was an
AB or whatever, then I wouldn'tmosquitoes, don't?
They could sense that yeah, Ithink they do no way okay.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So I'm assuming that the dinosaurs, um, they were
type o because they were gettingthe shit sucked out of them too
.
Could that be it?
I?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
mean I have no idea, but I'm not an expert in this or
anything but yeah she is oh,what made you get into um this
type of field in bio?
Well, honestly, it was my dad.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh shit, Shout out to .
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Pops.
So he has a PhD too, oh, okay.
And then he's like oh, you know, typical Asian parents.
He's like you got to have a PhDtoo, or you know, I'll never be
proud of you.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well, not in a bad way, yeah, yeah, somewhere.
In that sense, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But then, yeah, I actually do like it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Oh, really I do like science and teaching.
So, yeah, I'm glad he actuallypushed me to do all of this Girl
that's good because, as ofright now, this girl that's,
that's good because I'm as ofright now.
I'm, um, I'm trying to exposemy kids to like different, a lot
of different things.
(10:32):
I'm putting stuff on tv, I'mdoing like little science shit
that I'd be buying from targetto see what the knack is, you
know, like right you know likeI'm trying to find a spark, you
know, and with bio it's um, nota lot of people like could get
into that stuff, but I'm gladthat you know you found it.
You're like, oh snap, I'm, I'mhitting the lab.
(10:54):
Yeah, what am I gonna findtoday?
This and the third.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's cool as hell I mean, it took me a while though
I like to get into it.
Yeah, I used to hate it so much, even in undergrad.
I really wanted to escape biomy whole life.
I'm like anything but bio yeahbut I think because my dad kept
pushing me, like in a good way,oh yeah hey, lavina, hey, keep
(11:21):
on going and eventually I foundsomething I liked, because in
undergrad it was all like basicstuff, right, like all those ATP
and mitochondria and all that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh, metamorphosis.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Very like basic stuff .
But then, after I found outthat I do like stem cells and
aging research and I think Ionly found out about that like
four or five years ago- Really,oh snap, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Girl, I started liking science and then this
might like throw my age outthere.
When I started watching BillNye the Science Guy, you never
heard of him.
Oh, that shows your age, okay.
Well, bill Nye the Science Guy,he was a TV show way back in
(12:18):
the day and he would do scienceexperiments for kids and he
would make science super fun.
So one episode that I rememberis he was teaching how tornadoes
happen.
So he taped two bottles upsidedown and then he's like, oh,
this is what happens, and thenit'll go down like that and then
(12:40):
in that, same episode.
he had a glass of water, put twobatteries on the side of it the
positive and the positive andthat created some type of
cyclone in the water.
I was like, oh shit, science isfucking cool, but I never.
You know my brain, could youknow?
It just didn't withheld that.
(13:01):
I mean, you still rememberexactly how it works and all
yeah but it's like it's the Iguess it's the chemistry behind
it on.
You know why did these battery?
You know why two batteries andnot two cucumbers, right, or
something?
You know?
Oh yeah, but oh man, um, so, uh, what's?
(13:24):
What is your daily job?
Like, like, do you have aregular nine-to-five or are you
just a full-time student?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean for me.
So I actually had to switch labbecause I'm more of like a
do-it-your-own-way kind ofperson.
So my boss is super nice.
He's very supportive, but he'sthe type to not really care how
I do things, as long as I get mywork done.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I love those types of bosses.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, I used to have to stay from like 8 to 5 every
day.
But, since I'm working on likestem cell stuff, I would have to
come in at 11 pm too, and I didnot like that stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I would have to come in at 11 pm too, and I did not
like that oh, um, pause, why 11pm?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
and why not like the eight or five pm?
It's like the hours.
Like you have to feed thesestem cells, so like, oh, let's
say you're done at 5 pm and thenyou have to feed it every six
hours, so then you have to comeback at like 11 pm.
That that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I didn't know that, so learning something new.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, so I did not like that and yeah, so I had to
switch lab and, yeah, I reallylike my boss now because I can
do whatever I want.
Basically, Girl.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
The last I'm going to say, excuse me, five to seven
years of, you know, actualworking.
I've had bosses like that where, um, they give me a task, I
execute and complete it, andthey really don't care what I do
.
As long as you know I'mreplying to the emails, I'm like
(15:00):
all right, acknowledge, I'llknock this out.
Give them the product.
It's like all right, I got nonefor you.
Knock this out.
Give them the product.
He's like all right, I got nonefor you.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, that's the best kind in my opinion.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, you get to grow too fromthat you have to solve your own
problems and all.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Have you had bosses before?
That was really uptight and inyour ass.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I mean kind of, yeah, I'm not going to go into
details about it, but yeah, yeah, I mean he's, he's amazing,
though he taught me a lot ofthings.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I know we had to be there like basically the whole
time yeah but he taught me a lotof things and that helped me
transition to this new positionnow okay, so with you going to,
I guess, to work in these labs,does that coincide with you
(15:54):
going to school too, like, doesthat help you, I guess, get that
phd yeah, yeah, so it'sbasically my thesis oh, okay,
okay discover something new,then I can graduate.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
How?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
cool is that you're going to school and getting paid
to go to school to come up withthese results.
That's pretty badass.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't think a lot of institutions do that yeah, I
mean, I think that's why UH isamazing.
And I get to teach too, so I'mgetting paid to do that too.
I do to teach too, so I'mgetting paid to do that too.
And yeah, I do love teachingtoo.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Girl, that's awesome, girl.
Man, Let me ask you this You'rein front of the camera a lot.
You do a lot of I guess can Isay modeling pictures.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I mean kind of yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
As of right now, what's the worst woman fashion
trend that's happening?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Honestly, I haven't modeled in a while, so I'm not
too sure.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What's cringy to you then I know you scroll too and
you see around.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What makes you go?
Oh honey, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, I think I'm the type of person who's like
you can do whatever you want ifyou have the confidence for it.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, but I don't know, I don't know what's cringy
right now.
I'm not up to trend.
You're not Really.
Yeah, oh man, I'm not up totrend.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You're not really.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, oh man, I'm really old fashioned.
That's why I dressed up likethis.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And yeah, I just like simple dresses and all Gosh on
the island.
One thing that is just it irksme is, I guess, when the shoes,
when women wear shoes that don'tmatch the outfit, so you know,
(17:56):
when they're wearing, I guess,the platforms, right, like, yeah
, when women are wearing theplatforms and it just doesn't go
with the outfit, I'm like, ooh,no one told you that.
Hey, how about you just put onsome slippers or something you
know, or put on some nikes, yeah, but I think that's one, but I
don't even know that's that's afashion trend.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Um, shoot, I'm just now, I'm just naming an ick
honestly, you might be a littlemore aware of that than I am.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No way Really you think so.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, I don't know.
Sometimes when I walk and seethings my mind just.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh, you're zoomed in, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm just like oh, I didn't even notice.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Really yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But I'll notice a good dress or a good outfit.
Oh really, what's a notice?
A good dress, or like a goodoutfit?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh really, what's a good dress to you then?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
A good dress.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, what's a good dress.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I mean, I like simple stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Okay, so one zipper in the back or one zipper on the
side.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh, I love flower patterns.
Flower patterns.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yes, huh, like a muumuu.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, something like that, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You've worn those out before well for fashion shows.
I've not on my own discretion,but I would wear like a short
sundress okay, I could see that.
I could see that.
I could see that what was theweirdest thing you wore at a
fashion show?
Because I know I've.
I've seen the met gala, I'veseen and I've seen like, oh dude
(19:27):
, that's pretty badass.
But then I've seen wait, hold up, that's uh huh, like I had to
like double triple take like youknow what was um, and you don't
even have to say the fashionshow, but what was the one where
, like, uh, you're kind of iffyabout or like describe the dress
, or something?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I mean oh, you're gonna get me, oh yeah okay,
don't describe the dress, but,um, let's see.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh, how would you describe it then?
Like without the colors oranything?
What made it go?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think it's just not my style.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It doesn't really suit me or anything um it might
suit other people, but it's justnot my style.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It doesn't really suit me or anything.
Um, it might suit other peoplebut it's just not me.
But you know, when you're inlike fashion shows and all you
gotta wear girl you rocked it,yeah, so I'm like yeah have you
ever stumbled on the runway?
Oh, um kind of I didn't likefall, but you had, you had a one
(20:25):
yeah, yeah, but really yeah,but that was a really bad like
runway in general, so I thinkeveryone tripped oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So it wasn't the dress, it wasn't you being
clumsy, it was the floor it wasthe carpet.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, oh it was carpet it was carpet, it was
like a wood floor and then theyjust put a carpet on it and I
swear everyone tripped, evenlike the best models trip.
So I'm like I guess it's notjust me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh yeah, right hey, as long as I'm not the only one
right right oh man, um, on theisland.
Uh, what foods do you go for?
Like, are you, uh, do you gofind your local ind spots?
Or are you really keen into themasubi, these fried noodles and
all that?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So I'm a big foodie, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I don't know if you saw it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I wish they have Indonesian food here though, but
they don't, so I usually justgo for anything I can find.
Oh, really.
But I really love a goodJapanese food.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Japanese Mm-hmm.
Okay, do you cook at home?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I do cook at home Wow .
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Okay, Is it all off the top or are you getting
recipes from?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
elsewhere.
So I'll try and find recipes,but then make it my own style.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh, you add a LaVena Zhang to it.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm not I don't know, I'm just really bad at
following rules and steps.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I know as a scientist you kind of have to do it.
I was going to say somethingbut I was like, oh wait, hold up
, wait a minute.
But I like to add my own.
Have to do it.
I was spinning the scenes and Iwas like, oh wait, hold up,
wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I like to add my own flair to it.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, oh.
So if Are you a really goodcook I mean I don't know yeah,
Enough to throw down in thekitchen on a Thanksgiving day or
some shit.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, Like my friends enjoy it, but I can't,
like you know, make a restaurantout of it.
Oh hell, no, no way you gotta.
Well, I'm not knocking you, I'mjust saying you gotta Like oh
no, chris, you got to havesomething that'll pop Like oh
man, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh okay, just people out here want to know are you
single taken?
Just in the field I am taken.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You are taken.
Congratulations on that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's hard to find a decent human being nowadays.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I totally agree , yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Was this an organic meeting or was it through the
apps?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
uh, we actually met at church shut your ass.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Really, you got yourself a church guy.
Hey, was it like, how did ithappen, if you don't mind me
asking, how did it happen?
Like did your hands touch whenthe offering was coming around
and you y'all was putting thedollar at the same time, or
y'all had to share communionbread?
I mean, that would be thatwould have been sick, right like
oh here, and he's like oh wait,let me feed it to you girl.
(23:24):
Um, but yeah, how'd y'all meet?
How did we meet actually?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think it was like a welcoming event, and then he
just started talking to me.
Yeah, no way at first I didn'tlike him, but no, like, oh yeah,
like I.
I think I was also at a time inmy life where I just wanted to
focus on me, yeah, so kind ofcame unexpectedly really so he
(23:54):
kept on talking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You didn't like um was the?
Was it him chasing you or beingpersistent that made you see
him in a different way?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
um, I think we were friends first.
I think that helped a lot yeahand he was really patient about
it and I mean, it's not like hekept pursuing me.
I think he was just there as myfriend first.
Yeah, so that that helped oh,yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
How, uh, something from a friendship became
something.
I guess I said that, yeah, butyeah, no, that's, that's
beautiful I, I like that um andhow long y'all been together
we've been together.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wait how long I'm telling your man I mean, I think
it's almost two years now wow,y'all live together.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
He has his own spot.
He has.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
He comes back and forth good is his toothbrush
there?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
yeah, oh, basically he has his own.
Basically y'all live together.
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I mean, my dog is not Super happy about it, but oh
gosh, he gets jealous.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But I bet, like when he comes over your dog's, like
On your side, like Don't youeven dare Sit next to her.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, the first time he actually bit my boyfriend
Shut up.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, for real.
And that didn't scare, thatdidn't scare your man away that
way For real, and that didn'tscare your man away, not in that
way.
He's just like shooing him away.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Really he's like shoo , shoo, shoo and then bit yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
You should have known better what kind of dog Big
small Border Collie, medium size, medium size.
Okay, I don't know what theyare.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, that'sthat's what's up, and then um,
so your man's uh like, uh, is hestill opening the doors for you
?
Is he still doing chivalrousacts for you?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
yeah, every now and then.
Yeah, yeah, I would have toremind him sometimes, but hey,
guy come on man.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But uh, so okay, good guy.
Um, oh god, okay now.
I got questions now, since shetold me you have men and
everything, does he?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
cook for you too, oh, he's a really bad cook.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So oh gosh rather not .
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'd rather do the cooking okay, hey, attagirl,
attagirl, um, uh, so your man um, does he go to?
Does he go to school too?
Is he in that science field aswell?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
No way, he does more plant stuff, but yeah kind of
Same school Same school.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No way.
So you guys see each other likeevery day.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
He's in a different campus, though, so my main
campus is in the medical school.
So yeah, I got insurance onthis yeah, so, so yeah, I mean,
I'm based in kakaago and he'sbased in manoa um, that's like
kanye right oh not that far likecloser to waikiki actually oh,
(26:52):
okay, what's that school?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
do you know that school in Kaneohe where, never
mind, I had an event there?
Well, I did a podcast overthere for someone else and I was
like damn, this is a fuckingdrive.
I was like oh, not too sureyeah, okay, redact, redact that
um having a man and everything,um, and you having a following.
(27:15):
Is he cool with, I guess, guyshitting you up on the dm or
commenting on you know yourpictures and everything, because
I could only understand, youknow people coming at you in
that type of way.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean I guess he knows that I'm really good at
saying no, not in a bad way, butlike.
He knows that I can take careof myself.
So, yeah, he trusts me with itoh, that's good, and he's more
of like a quiet, low-key kind ofguy yeah, so yeah, is it vice
(27:51):
versa too?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
does he have a like a mass following, like you too,
or?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
oh, he's a very private guy that's good, even
better yeah, even when I liketake him to a fence, he would
rather just be in the corner, soyeah, girl, I'm like that too
so I'm like okay holy crap.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Um, when I'm like hosting an event, like like I'm
not I'm not trying to bebig-headed or anything, but if
I'm headlining an event and Ihave to be there, I usually go
up, do my piece and then I'musually in the manager's room
playing Xbox or something.
Really.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I don't want to drink or nothing, because I know I
have to drive home.
I'm not trying to get caught up.
But I get somewhat anxious whenI'm around trying to get caught
up.
But I get somewhat anxious whenI'm around a lot of people in
that type of environment, whenthey're drunk and stuff and
inebriated.
So I'm just like, oh, I don'twant to be, like, if stuff goes
down, I do not want to be thereyou know.
(28:50):
So I'm like, oh yeah hey, thankyou for coming out.
I do a lot of yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So you're better at like a one-on-one conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, I don't know, man, like my wife tells me
otherwise.
She says like I like gettingattention, but I really don't.
You know, it's just, I guess Ican like, especially being in
the military, I could keep aconversation going.
Or especially being in themilitary, I could keep a
conversation going.
Or if I have to be in front ofpeople, then I have a lot of us,
(29:22):
that's like my filler word, butI guess I can keep something
going.
But I really don't like beingwith a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But I do gravitate towards the bathroom a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
If I'm at the bar I'm near the exit.
I like being near the wallbecause it's like I know
someone's not walking behind me.
I guess it's like some type ofphobia or whatever, I don't want
someone coming up behind mestabbing me or putting me on a
chokehold or whatnot Right.
I think about those things.
(30:04):
Yeah, I didn't expect that,expect that, but yeah, yeah, so
I'm just like uh, but yeah, soI'm that type of person.
Uh, when you're at events, areyou like the social butterfly,
are you talking with otherpeople?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I, so I prefer like a one-on-one.
I I would come up to people andall, but I would prefer like a
smaller setting sometimes yeahyeah, because I'm very
soft-spoken too, so I can'tscream and shout and like yeah,
your voice won't project, yeahbut yeah so intimate settings.
You're, you're good I think I'mbetter at that.
(30:32):
I don't know what people yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
How about, like when you're in front?
I saw that you were on a podium.
You sent me that video.
How many people was there whenyou were presenting things?
Or presenting that topic.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So it really depends.
I don't remember which video Isent you, but I know it was
several.
I just like sent you a bunch.
Yeah, yeah, you did yeah um,normally it'll be like at least
30, so you're good with you.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You're good in front of a crowd like public speaking.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I think I grew up watching my dad teach yeah and
um, I think I just took notesand learned from it on how he,
like you know, interacts withthe audience and all that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But yeah, so going to school, did you uh take what's
it called public speakingclasses as well?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
no, I didn't actually oh really just drew me in there
, but yeah, oh snap.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And then in your field you did some psychology.
You know you had to take somepsychology classes too, for bio
or no no, I didn't actually ohbut I love psychology.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I've always wanted to do psychology actually oh
really yeah, but why didn't you?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
asian parents, oh god oh lord, uh, in your house are
you?
Is people allowed to wear theirCrocs in there?
Crocs or shoes, they're reallyrespectable and they take off.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, they kind of know what to do already.
So yeah, they saw all my shoeslike outside.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So, I think they should know, right, oh girl, let
me ask you, Let me ask you Doyou have home slippers for your
guests?
So yeah, I think they shouldknow, right?
Oh, girl, let me ask you, letme ask you do you, um, do you
have home slippers for yourguests?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
no, I don't actually, which I probably should have
girl.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I was thinking I was thinking of like legitimately
buying home slippers for myguests, like when they that's
really smart.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, one of my friend actually does that she
has yeah, right, right she haslike 10 house slippers for her
guests and makes us feel more athome when we come over.
Girl right, that's smart.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was thinking that because um I was on amazon and I
saw it's um, this little boxthingy.
It looks like a shoe box, butpeople will put their foot in it
and it would automaticallysaran wrap their feet.
Oh yeah, it was pretty cool.
So, like they would go, they'llput their feet in and then it
(33:09):
was saran wrap, put other footin saran wrap and then they
would.
They look like scrub moccasins.
I don't know if you've everseen those before.
You know, like when you're insome type of like operating room
and then they have the booniesover.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It looks like that.
Ooh, I don't know if that'scomfortable, but no, but it's
just man.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
They're just walking around socks but like things,
covering their socks, oh okay,okay.
I mean covering their socks, ohokay, okay.
I mean I know it's notcomfortable, I mean what if you
have, like, stuff on your floorbut it I guess you're just not
picking up the dirt if you havewooden floors or whatnot.
But I thought it was prettycool and I was like, oh oh shit,
I'm finna, get uh slippers forhot damn my place.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, no, that's smart.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I should consider buying some oh girl, if you ever
do, just like you know what Iwas, what I was on this podcast,
and that's where I get it fromKudos to me.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
True, hey, oh yeah High five.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
All right, damn, I lost that question.
Do you know your love language?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
My love language.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It's definitely quality time, quality time Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
So let me ask you this then with quality time,
have you ever changed your lovelanguage Like?
Did quality time become like?
You know what?
I just don't like quality timeanymore.
I'm more of a words ofaffirmation type of person.
Has that ever changed likethroughout your ex-amunia years
on earth?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I think my main one has always been like quality
time.
Really Maybe like the secondand third might change every now
and then, but I've always likedquality time, just because I'm
always super busy and I knowlike if I'm working and all you
know, people got to prioritizestuff.
So, yeah, quality time hasalways been my main one.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Really, ooh, oh.
Mine was um, uh.
It was quality time, but then,like when life was lifing right,
words of affirmation became mytop yeah, like change neither
did I, neither did I, until mytherapist said I go to therapy,
you know, I'm saying um he, hesaid that, uh, it's okay for
(35:22):
stuff like that to change,because it used to be um gift
giving.
Right, I love, I liked gettinggifts, but it's, how do I say,
how do I put it without soundinglike a snob?
Okay, I like gifts too.
Yeah, right, like, hey, man, Ibought you this Big.
Mac too, Without even asking orhey.
(35:44):
I got you this headband becauseI knew you liked the color
orange.
I'm like, oh shit, that'swhat's up, you know.
But it was that.
And then it went from qualitytime because it's like I was
kind of needy and shit.
And then it became words ofaffirmation because I'm out a
(36:05):
lot and the things that I do athome usually, like, my wife is
either at work or she's asleep,the babies are asleep and it's
like I do things like in thebackground or whatever.
So when, when they, when theysay thank you or appreciate it,
I'm like, oh yeah, I bet youknow I feel good.
It's like I don't know, I gethorny off that shit.
(36:25):
So I'm just like, oh yeah, yeah, that's great I my boyfriend's
um.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Love language is actually also words of
affirmation right but I'mterrible at it.
Why I, I think, just growing upin an asian household, yeah,
like I don't get that a lotright like oh no, this is true.
I grew up, yeah, okay my parentsnever really say like, oh, I'm
proud of you, or like you'redoing great.
(36:49):
They're always like, oh, yougotta yeah, you gotta do better.
This is what you're, what youneed to need to improve on, and
I think that's what I'm used to.
So I'm like it all started athome when you were a young
laddie.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Oh my God, that's crazy.
Tell me how talks.
I had this conversation theother day.
How toxic you know our Asianparents were.
My dad was pretty toxic.
He gas lit the fuck out ofeveryone.
Toxic, you know our asianparents were.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
My dad was pretty toxic, I'm not.
He uh, he gaslit the fuck outof everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You know, oh no, I'm sorry, yeah, but like, um,
growing up, um, mental healthwasn't ever a big thing, it was
more of a hey, push the fuck on,you know.
So, um, as an Asian parent,well shit, I'm a parent now, I'm
like that in a way, but I camedown several levels.
So you growing up, I mean, howdo you see that?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
as I mean, well, they're a lot better now because
I think I know how to handlemyself and all that.
But I guess growing up I wasalways pushed to be the best,
which in a way it's good yeah,definitely good, I did achieve a
lot of things, um, but also, atthe same time, I'm always.
(38:08):
It made me overthink a lot, andoh and it made me want, to like
improve myself a lot, which Iguess it's also a good thing
yeah and I think I'm just soused to it because that's how
all my friends were really butthen when I came here, when I
met, like you know, my non-asianfriends, I guess they're like
(38:30):
are you sure you're okay?
They'll always ask me thatquestion and I'm like, yeah,
it's just how I grew up, whichis fine, and it made me who I am
now yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Growing up in the asian household, uh, from a wee
little to an adult, you havelike really thick skin that's
true, you know, because my auntsand uncles, they would say a
lot of mean things and then theywould bang on you for crying.
Banging as in like they wouldmake fun of you for crying or
like shedding a tear.
So now it's like, oh okay, allright, you say this about me,
(39:10):
okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It just like goes away yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, oh my God, and it just goes away.
Yeah, yeah, oh my God.
And it's sad now becausethere's a lot of soft-ass
parents I don't know if you seeit as well A lot of coddling, a
lot of enabling and stuff.
I see that and I'm just like,oh my God, these kids are soft
and I'm trying to teach my kidshow to be a little bit you know,
(39:36):
a little bit tough, Like youdon't yeah, like I like to see
things unfold.
You know like there's like alike if my young ones right
brother, sister, if they get ina fight, I'm just trying to see
what would happen before theytell on me, you know, like I
like to tell them like, figureit out With y'all, try to teach
(39:57):
them skills, right?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Do you see parents like that,like I guess, like at church or
when you're walking around,happen to look Until you're
right, because I know you'realways zoned in, like, do you
see?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
that stuff like I mean, yeah, kind of, and I'll
just like.
I actually um, talked to myboyfriend about it and I'm just
like, oh, that's interesting, myparents would never let me do
that, or like stuff like that,right, yeah oh, like the set.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I'm not trying to bash on anyone's kids or
whatever, especially thehawaiian kids, but yeah, oh, I'm
definitely gonna get canceled.
I don't give a fuck, but I'vebeen doing this all the whole
time.
I haven't got canceled yet.
They're not gonna work.
But no, these kids, they'rebadass kids there's some badass
ones out there.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I feel like they need some discipline and I mean, you
don't have to be super harshyeah, but like they need some
you know discipline and theyneed.
Some you know discipline andthey need to be able to survive
in this world too, right?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
oh cause not everything is gonna be given to
them?
Right you feel me Lavinia.
How would you discipline a kid?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
oh, I don't know yet.
Like do you have?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
are.
Are you the only child?
Yes, I'm the only child, okay,see, oh, fuck do you have
nephews and nieces um, I havelike cousins, cousins yeah, are
you like the nice cousin or areyou the more of a reserved
cousin?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
um, honestly, I'm kind of like you can do your own
thing no, girl, no, let me tellyou.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Let me tell you, I was um, I'm in this cousin group
chat and since I'm on hawaii,like I'm, the same way too.
It's like, hey, whateverhappens on the mainland, hey,
thank you for leaving me thefuck out of it, because I cannot
do, I can't I can't help Ican't provide because I'm, you
know, I'm all the way out here.
(41:54):
So yeah, thank you.
You know like I love that.
Yeah, it's just like oh yeah,do your own thing, go ahead.
You know that's your life yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I think over the years I learned to just like you
know let people do their ownthing, because I used to care so
much.
But you know, in anything, justleave me out of it oh yeah, why
did it backfire on you?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
is it be?
Is it?
Did it become a?
He said.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
She said yeah, kind of, and also, like I think I
used to care too much, uh-huhyeah oh, you wanted to like the
family to be strong and like,yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And.
And now you're just like, hey,man, solve your own problems.
Yeah, I got my life to do.
Right, right oh man, you'vebeen on Hawaii for X amount of
years now.
Any word or chances of youdipping the hell out?
Or would you want to raise yourfamily here?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I mean, I really want to like stay here.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Hey, that's what's up .
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I like it out here too, yeah, but we'll see where
my career takes me too, becauseI know there's not too much
biotech stuff here.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
So yeah, we'll see girl, if you, um, if you ever go
to like europe or whatever andyou know, get the inside scoop
on like, oh man, there's thisbio thing that's happening.
Oh yeah, definitely hit me up,all right, cause I'm into, I
love that shit.
You know like I'm like.
I deep dive real quick into the.
Um, I don't want to sayIlluminati bullshit, but like
(43:28):
the, what is it called?
The?
I guess you know, I don't knowthe word.
It's when, like you know what Idon't know, fuck it, I know
what you mean, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, wow, I like that shit.
Do you watch the Last of Us onHBO?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Can shit like that reallyhappen?
Since you're in bio, I mean,could it or is it a chance?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I don't think so.
I mean, even if it happened, Ithink people are really good at
containing it.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Nowadays.
So yeah, I think we should befine, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I hope Right.
Yeah, oh, could.
What did you think, since youknow you're like in science.
What did you think when thecoronavirus came out?
What was your thinking whenthat was coming, because you was
into that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
What was going through your mind and brain Did
you ever thought of?
Maybe I could solve this?
Or how did it start?
Or what kind of strands orcells make like came up to this
to make it so where we have to,like, stay you know X amount of
feet away, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I think it's just like the fires.
Right, it's the same with flu,like if you're, if you're close
to someone who has a flu, thenyou might get the flu too.
Yeah, um, but yeah, I think wewere too slow in like containing
it and people didn't think itwas serious at that time.
(45:04):
Yeah, so I guess that's why itspread rapidly but yeah, as long
as you like, contain it fast,because like in australia they
they contained it really fast sothey didn't have too much cases
.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, oh, educate me on australia.
Real quick quack real quicklike oh I burped oh excuse, oh
yeah, that was orange juice.
Um, excuse me and I am sorry,you're good, you're good.
Um, yeah, how did they containit, like when they found out?
How did they contain that realquick?
Because I, uh, I guess socialmedia never, well, I guess on my
(45:40):
timeline never coveredaustralia like that.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
So I'm not entirely sure a hundred percent, but it's
just from because I I do someresearch in australia.
I'm actually leaving in twoweeks to Australia.
Hey, good day mate.
Yeah, but from what they toldme, so I'm not entirely sure how
true this is.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, it's not verbatim.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Y'all All right, but they just did a lot of travel
ban and they had to, and peoplewere really good at staying away
from each other, they wearmasks when they go out and yeah,
there's just a lot of rulesthat were able to help contain
it a lot better oh okay,interesting.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Um, before we dip out , I want to ask you this you
grew up in indones, indonesia,for 14 years.
What are the paranormal shit inIndonesia?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Paranormal.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Paranormal, like hauntings and stuff.
What's the big one?
Is there a temple or a cemeterythat you're not supposed to go
to because you heard of thesestories?
What's a folklore?
An Indonesian folklore, where,oh shit, I better fucking not
put my feet over the over thebed, otherwise this indonesian
ghost is gonna like rip out mytoes or sometimes that's
(47:00):
actually an interesting questionyeah, well, I'm into that shit
too.
Goddamn paranormal hit me up,you know I would say so, like I.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I know I grew up in ind, indonesia, and all but my
dad's very Chinese, oh, okay.
So we have a lot more likeChinese traditions, okay so.
Chinese phenomenon I guess morelike beliefs.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Oh, yeah, give me one , give me one.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
What you shouldn't do or what you shouldn't do, so
like in Chinese New Year, youknow you're not supposed to
clean up your house or likeclean things, because you're
sweeping away your luck or yourwealth, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Shut the fuck up.
I've never heard that before.
So on Chinese New Year, youdon't clean your house.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, you don't clean your house, you don't wash your
hair because you're throwingaway like the luck On Chinese
New Year.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, Just that specific day, or is it?
Just that specific day, okay,so you don't clean your house,
you don't take a shower oh, youdon't wash your hair.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, but you can take a shower.
Yeah, you can take a shower.
Well, you can yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I hope so.
Yeah, I think you can't you doum, what else?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
oh, you have to wear a new shirt on chinese new year
yeah, and you can't wear blackand white, I think because
that's the color of that yeah,shut up yeah, on just during
chinese new year that day.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Damn what if your favorite colors are black and
white?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
then you're just assed out just that day you can
wear red wear red, wear yellow,wear something but not black and
white.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Oh damn, that's crazy .
What else?
What else happens on chinesenew year that you're not or you
can do?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
oh, there might be too many honestly off the top of
your head.
Those are the three that I likeremembered the most really do
you follow?
Speaker 1 (49:01):
do you follow that?
I kind of do, yeah, you kind ofyeah, you say kind of like
you're unsure, like I mean, wasthere a year that you like?
Speaker 2 (49:09):
oh, I wore black yeah , yeah, I think I did that.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Oh, for real.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Did you change right away, or was it?
I mean, I'm like, oh well, I'mout already, so like yeah, oh,
fuck it.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, oh, okay, I have a lot of.
I don't have a lot of Chinesefriends, but I do have, like a
lot of Vietnamese, vietnamesefriends and I guess they similar
too, yeah, but I've.
I've seen them wear black andwhite.
You know, I went to school withthem, so I've seen them in the
shower.
I saw them put shampoo whenthey shit, you know.
(49:44):
So when you said that, I waslike hold up and then I was
trying to remember things likewait, wait hold up.
I remember, you know, at gym man, my homeboy steven, I saw him
sharing his hair.
I wasn't trying to be a perv,but I do remember him putting
some stuff in his shit, you know.
But oh, that's crazy, and um,the whole sweeping thing, um,
(50:06):
just that day you just don'tclean your house like can you
vacuum, or I I just don't justlike any cleaning.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
yeah, dishes, can you vacuum, or I think it's just
like any cleaning, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Dishes.
Can you wash dishes?
That's some sort of cleaning.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I don't know.
Actually, I think I still didmy dishes.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Okay, oh, that's wild .
Yeah, oh girl, but Lovina, thatshit was fun yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Thank you again.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Girl?
No, I appreciate you.
Thank you for coming on.
Where can these people find youat?
Or do you have any like shoutouts or anything before we dip?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
yeah, well, my instagram is at lavina,
underscore 28, if you want tofind me there and see me share
my stories man, hell yeah,follow her.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Her stories are interesting as hell.
No lie, I like scrolling yourshit because I'm just like oh
hmm, oh, I become a deathscroller.
You know like I just go like oh, whoa cool, um, before we dip
out 28, where is that?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
like a jersey number or it's my birth date, yeah yeah
, typical lavina no, I Icouldn't, because my name is way
too long to just oh, put it outthere yeah, and I'm not super
creative and like making a funname, so yeah, is lavina an
(51:27):
american name, or?
So my parents actually name itfrom love.
Oh yeah, oh good job, parents.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
yeah, oh, I thought it was like a not to disrespect,
but I thought it was like anamerican name that I guess your
parents made up or you made up,because your your original name
was, I guess.
On on, uh, announcement youcan't, I guess, unannouncement
you can't enunciate, or what'sthat word.
(51:57):
Where you can't, you can'tpronounce it Pronounce.
Yeah, it's one of them days,folks, it's one of them days.
But yeah, do you have like anOG Indonesian name?
Or it's been Lavina.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
No, it's always been Lavina.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Okay, yeah, my last name though it's very lavina.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
No, it's always been lavina.
Okay, yeah, my last name,though it's very indonesian.
Oh really yeah oh, okay that'swhat's up.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
I have a lot of.
Yeah, I have a vietnamesefriend like his name's, steve,
but his real name is like tuanduk chu or whatever and I'm just
like yeah, yeah, okay, allright, dog, I'll call you by
that name.
You just told me, you know whatI'm saying.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Shit, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Hey, shout out to KO Studios.
Thank you for the lovely home,rafi.
Bye.
Thank you for the lovely beatsman.
I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I'm Lavina.
Okay, we'll do that in take twoyes.
I'm like, oh wait.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I'm Lavinia.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Ayy, there you go and we out this bitch, peace.
5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Welcome back to another episodeof the relationship method
podcast.
I'm chris and today I got avery special guest, a very
lovely guest, by the name oflavina yay Girl, welcome to the
podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you for having me Girl.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No, thank you thank you Before we get this going,
lavinia, how did I get the yesfrom you to come on?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I saw that you did some podcast with MJ so I'm
like if she did it, then it's acool podcast hey shout out to MJ
Meow, meow, meow, meow.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Appreciate you, girl, hope you're doing good.
Hell, yeah, hey, that's youknow what.
Thank you.
I do appreciate you for comingon and, lovina you said there
was traffic here earlier todaycoming in Right here earlier
today coming in from a town andpeople that don't know where
town is.
That's Waikiki area.
Yeah, that type of situation,right, right, yeah.
(01:12):
What did you see?
Or what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
There's a really bad accident.
I think there's over like sixcars on the side of the street,
so I'm not too sure whathappened but yeah, oh, my
goodness, um, you've been onthis island for a good amount of
years, right?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
yeah, um, from a scale from one to ten, uh, how
can you?
Uh, what do you grade thesedrivers?
Because I know you've beensomewhat around the world.
What do you think of the localdriving?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
out here.
Honestly, they're pretty safe,Like a lot safer than California
drivers for sure I was about tosay that, yeah.
And they drive a lot slower.
Oh, yeah, they do, butsometimes I don't know.
Sometimes it's these touriststoo, oh true facts, yeah, so
grade them.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Grade them Like from 1 to 10.
1 being worse, 10 being.
I don't need to watch my sideview mirror.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I mean, they're actually really nice.
So I would say, like maybe a 6or a 7 out of 10.
Hey, 6 or 7.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You just got graded Hawaii.
Um, do you have you thrown theshocker lately too?
Do you do that?
The shocker Like yeah, yeah,like, oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You and I talked earlier and you're from
Indonesia?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, I was born there, oh my goodness, yeah, I
was born there, oh my goodness,what's the?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
how long you been in Indonesia for?
Oh like, how long did I livethere?
Yeah, until you dipped out.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So I left when I was 14 and then I moved to Seattle,
basically for college, okay, Ooh, she educated y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So 14,.
I bet a lot has changed inIndonesia.
Was there like a culture shockwhen you hit Hawaii from
Indonesia?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Hawaii, do you?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
see like big differences.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Honestly, hawaii is a lot like Indonesia, so yeah,
that's why it feels like homehere too, hey okay, that's
what's up.
Everyone's really friendly andyou know the weather.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's a lot like Indonesia Shut up, so it's like
the humidity and sometimes youget your cold days and shit too.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Indonesia is a little more
humid than here.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh, I can't do that, then Fuck that yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
No, I don't go out at all, oh really especially with
our hair.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Our hair will get frizzed the hell up.
You feel me?
Yeah, no ways.
And then, um like, uh, I followyou and you know I seen your
content.
What got you into?
You know that space like intocontent creating.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, content creating.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And then how did you blow up from there?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
oh, I don't know if I blow up yet, but girl you, you
blow, you blown up.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, I mean, it's not being so humble and
modest.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I honestly, it's just for fun.
I just wanted to share my storyand share, you know, like
promote local businesses heretoo, because, yeah, I do enjoy
like going out to eat there,like doing activities here and
there, and then, at the sametime, I want to share my stories
because not a lot of peopleknow what I do, because it's,
(04:36):
you know, we're stuck in a labmost of the time, or like in a
computer, and it feels likethey're always asking me like,
oh, what do you actually do likein the lab?
Or what do you do as a phdstudent, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So I'm like, well, I'm just gonna share my story
here yeah and then, yeah, Iguess people want to tune in hey
yeah, I love, I love how youexplained that, because a lot of
uh like people, they like theauthenticity of, like genuine
people living their everydaylife.
You know they're not trying topromote a drink or a club or
(05:12):
whatever.
It's just them doing everydaythings and also it's a.
It gives a sense of normalcy touh.
Is that, is that a word?
Phd, is that a word?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I don't't know, she don't even know, babe.
Yeah, I don't have a PhD inEnglish, sorry, oh stop.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, you said a PhD, right.
What's the major?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So I major in biology , wow.
But my main research is onanti-aging Shut up For real.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, it's been a while, wow, okay.
So do you believe these creamsthat are coming out?
You know that the celebs aretrying to promote and sell.
Are they worth the buck?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like the creams, like the face creams, I guess yeah.
Honestly, I'm not too surebecause I know I deal with more
of like the genetic side oh,okay like oh um, does exercise
help you?
Or like, does this specificgene help you age slower?
(06:15):
But sometimes I feel like thesecreams are just so like well
advertised that everyone is intoit, but you don't know the
exact ingredients in it, right?
So, I don't know.
Until I see the exactingredients in it, I can't tell
you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh, snap, okay, so is exercise good for the skin.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It is, it's really good.
So exercise and diet are thetwo main factors that can slow
aging.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It could slow aging.
Girl, my knees feel likethey're 80 years old and I don't
know if it's because I'm in themilitary, I don't know if it's
the way I'm eating, but, girl, Ifeel broken down.
I'm sure you're doing great ohmy god I'd be waking up with.
I need Bengay Tiger Balm.
Sometimes I need a Rubix.
(07:04):
Oh god, I need all that stuff,girl um anti-aging uh okay, okay
, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So um sweat is sweat good for, like say, the skin I
mean as long as you, um, I guess, take a shower after and
moisturize after I think itshould be okay because it does
um.
From sweating, you're alsoburning fats, right?
(07:32):
Yeah yeah, so it is good, okay,okay, cool, cool, it's how you
deal with it after okay, allright.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
so I'm to stick to skin because I have like some
sort of a personal question.
My kid gets bitten up a lot,right so, and it's funny because
his sister and us we don't getas much bitten as he does.
So what is he?
(08:01):
Is it something that he'seating, or is it he's sweating,
some sort of something else?
Why is he getting bitten morethan us?
He would come up with six bites, us we'd come up with either
one or none.
What do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You mean with mosquitoes, right?
No, not mosquitoes.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Maybe in the home or something.
Okay, yeah, maybe mosquitoes.
Well, you know what?
Skip the mosquitoes, let's justtalk about, like at home Like
we keep the house very clean,right, our dogs don't have fleas
or ticks or whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Right, right, he just gets.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know like he'll find a bite here or there.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Wash his bedding.
Maybe it could be the blood too.
Oh yeah, so it might not alwaysbe the skin.
Uh-huh, I am not entirely sure.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I know she's not a pathologist, yeah, but yeah, oh,
so it could be, I don't want togive you like the wrong
information.
Well, damn it, girl Right, Sayit with confidence and I'll
believe whatever you say itmight.
Say it with confidence, andI'll believe whatever you say.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It might be the blood too, because at least with
mosquitoes.
You know it's the blood typeright, like if you're blood type
O, then you might get bitten alot more really so if I was an
AB or whatever, then I wouldn'tmosquitoes, don't?
They could sense that yeah, Ithink they do no way okay.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So I'm assuming that the dinosaurs, um, they were
type o because they were gettingthe shit sucked out of them too
.
Could that be it?
I?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
mean I have no idea, but I'm not an expert in this or
anything but yeah she is oh,what made you get into um this
type of field in bio?
Well, honestly, it was my dad.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh shit, Shout out to .
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Pops.
So he has a PhD too, oh, okay.
And then he's like oh, you know, typical Asian parents.
He's like you got to have a PhDtoo, or you know, I'll never be
proud of you.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well, not in a bad way, yeah, yeah, somewhere.
In that sense, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But then, yeah, I actually do like it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Oh, really I do like science and teaching.
So, yeah, I'm glad he actuallypushed me to do all of this Girl
that's good because, as ofright now, this girl that's,
that's good because I'm as ofright now.
I'm, um, I'm trying to exposemy kids to like different, a lot
of different things.
(10:32):
I'm putting stuff on tv, I'mdoing like little science shit
that I'd be buying from targetto see what the knack is, you
know, like right you know likeI'm trying to find a spark, you
know, and with bio it's um, nota lot of people like could get
into that stuff, but I'm gladthat you know you found it.
You're like, oh snap, I'm, I'mhitting the lab.
(10:54):
Yeah, what am I gonna findtoday?
This and the third.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's cool as hell I mean, it took me a while though
I like to get into it.
Yeah, I used to hate it so much, even in undergrad.
I really wanted to escape biomy whole life.
I'm like anything but bio yeahbut I think because my dad kept
pushing me, like in a good way,oh yeah hey, lavina, hey, keep
(11:21):
on going and eventually I foundsomething I liked, because in
undergrad it was all like basicstuff, right, like all those ATP
and mitochondria and all that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh, metamorphosis.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Very like basic stuff .
But then, after I found outthat I do like stem cells and
aging research and I think Ionly found out about that like
four or five years ago- Really,oh snap, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Girl, I started liking science and then this
might like throw my age outthere.
When I started watching BillNye the Science Guy, you never
heard of him.
Oh, that shows your age, okay.
Well, bill Nye the Science Guy,he was a TV show way back in
(12:18):
the day and he would do scienceexperiments for kids and he
would make science super fun.
So one episode that I rememberis he was teaching how tornadoes
happen.
So he taped two bottles upsidedown and then he's like, oh,
this is what happens, and thenit'll go down like that and then
(12:40):
in that, same episode.
he had a glass of water, put twobatteries on the side of it the
positive and the positive andthat created some type of
cyclone in the water.
I was like, oh shit, science isfucking cool, but I never.
You know my brain, could youknow?
It just didn't withheld that.
(13:01):
I mean, you still rememberexactly how it works and all
yeah but it's like it's the Iguess it's the chemistry behind
it on.
You know why did these battery?
You know why two batteries andnot two cucumbers, right, or
something?
You know?
Oh yeah, but oh man, um, so, uh, what's?
(13:24):
What is your daily job?
Like, like, do you have aregular nine-to-five or are you
just a full-time student?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean for me.
So I actually had to switch labbecause I'm more of like a
do-it-your-own-way kind ofperson.
So my boss is super nice.
He's very supportive, but he'sthe type to not really care how
I do things, as long as I get mywork done.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I love those types of bosses.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, I used to have to stay from like 8 to 5 every
day.
But, since I'm working on likestem cell stuff, I would have to
come in at 11 pm too, and I didnot like that stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I would have to come in at 11 pm too, and I did not
like that oh, um, pause, why 11pm?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
and why not like the eight or five pm?
It's like the hours.
Like you have to feed thesestem cells, so like, oh, let's
say you're done at 5 pm and thenyou have to feed it every six
hours, so then you have to comeback at like 11 pm.
That that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I didn't know that, so learning something new.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, so I did not like that and yeah, so I had to
switch lab and, yeah, I reallylike my boss now because I can
do whatever I want.
Basically, Girl.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
The last I'm going to say, excuse me, five to seven
years of, you know, actualworking.
I've had bosses like that where, um, they give me a task, I
execute and complete it, andthey really don't care what I do
.
As long as you know I'mreplying to the emails, I'm like
(15:00):
all right, acknowledge, I'llknock this out.
Give them the product.
It's like all right, I got nonefor you.
Knock this out.
Give them the product.
He's like all right, I got nonefor you.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, that's the best kind in my opinion.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, you get to grow too fromthat you have to solve your own
problems and all.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Have you had bosses before?
That was really uptight and inyour ass.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I mean kind of, yeah, I'm not going to go into
details about it, but yeah, yeah, I mean he's, he's amazing,
though he taught me a lot ofthings.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I know we had to be there like basically the whole
time yeah but he taught me a lotof things and that helped me
transition to this new positionnow okay, so with you going to,
I guess, to work in these labs,does that coincide with you
(15:54):
going to school too, like, doesthat help you, I guess, get that
phd yeah, yeah, so it'sbasically my thesis oh, okay,
okay discover something new,then I can graduate.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
How?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
cool is that you're going to school and getting paid
to go to school to come up withthese results.
That's pretty badass.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't think a lot of institutions do that yeah, I
mean, I think that's why UH isamazing.
And I get to teach too, so I'mgetting paid to do that too.
I do to teach too, so I'mgetting paid to do that too.
And yeah, I do love teachingtoo.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Girl, that's awesome, girl.
Man, Let me ask you this You'rein front of the camera a lot.
You do a lot of I guess can Isay modeling pictures.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I mean kind of yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
As of right now, what's the worst woman fashion
trend that's happening?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Honestly, I haven't modeled in a while, so I'm not
too sure.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What's cringy to you then I know you scroll too and
you see around.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What makes you go?
Oh honey, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, I think I'm the type of person who's like
you can do whatever you want ifyou have the confidence for it.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, but I don't know, I don't know what's cringy
right now.
I'm not up to trend.
You're not Really.
Yeah, oh man, I'm not up totrend.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You're not really.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, oh man, I'm really old fashioned.
That's why I dressed up likethis.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And yeah, I just like simple dresses and all Gosh on
the island.
One thing that is just it irksme is, I guess, when the shoes,
when women wear shoes that don'tmatch the outfit, so you know,
(17:56):
when they're wearing, I guess,the platforms, right, like, yeah
, when women are wearing theplatforms and it just doesn't go
with the outfit, I'm like, ooh,no one told you that.
Hey, how about you just put onsome slippers or something you
know, or put on some nikes, yeah, but I think that's one, but I
don't even know that's that's afashion trend.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Um, shoot, I'm just now, I'm just naming an ick
honestly, you might be a littlemore aware of that than I am.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No way Really you think so.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, I don't know.
Sometimes when I walk and seethings my mind just.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh, you're zoomed in, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm just like oh, I didn't even notice.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Really yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But I'll notice a good dress or a good outfit.
Oh really, what's a notice?
A good dress, or like a goodoutfit?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh really, what's a good dress to you then?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
A good dress.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, what's a good dress.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I mean, I like simple stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Okay, so one zipper in the back or one zipper on the
side.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh, I love flower patterns.
Flower patterns.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yes, huh, like a muumuu.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, something like that, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You've worn those out before well for fashion shows.
I've not on my own discretion,but I would wear like a short
sundress okay, I could see that.
I could see that.
I could see that what was theweirdest thing you wore at a
fashion show?
Because I know I've.
I've seen the met gala, I'veseen and I've seen like, oh dude
(19:27):
, that's pretty badass.
But then I've seen wait, hold up, that's uh huh, like I had to
like double triple take like youknow what was um, and you don't
even have to say the fashionshow, but what was the one where
, like, uh, you're kind of iffyabout or like describe the dress
, or something?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I mean oh, you're gonna get me, oh yeah okay,
don't describe the dress, but,um, let's see.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh, how would you describe it then?
Like without the colors oranything?
What made it go?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think it's just not my style.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It doesn't really suit me or anything um it might
suit other people, but it's justnot my style.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It doesn't really suit me or anything.
Um, it might suit other peoplebut it's just not me.
But you know, when you're inlike fashion shows and all you
gotta wear girl you rocked it,yeah, so I'm like yeah have you
ever stumbled on the runway?
Oh, um kind of I didn't likefall, but you had, you had a one
(20:25):
yeah, yeah, but really yeah,but that was a really bad like
runway in general, so I thinkeveryone tripped oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So it wasn't the dress, it wasn't you being
clumsy, it was the floor it wasthe carpet.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, oh it was carpet it was carpet, it was
like a wood floor and then theyjust put a carpet on it and I
swear everyone tripped, evenlike the best models trip.
So I'm like I guess it's notjust me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh yeah, right hey, as long as I'm not the only one
right right oh man, um, on theisland.
Uh, what foods do you go for?
Like, are you, uh, do you gofind your local ind spots?
Or are you really keen into themasubi, these fried noodles and
all that?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So I'm a big foodie, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I don't know if you saw it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I wish they have Indonesian food here though, but
they don't, so I usually justgo for anything I can find.
Oh, really.
But I really love a goodJapanese food.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Japanese Mm-hmm.
Okay, do you cook at home?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I do cook at home Wow .
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Okay, Is it all off the top or are you getting
recipes from?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
elsewhere.
So I'll try and find recipes,but then make it my own style.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh, you add a LaVena Zhang to it.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm not I don't know, I'm just really bad at
following rules and steps.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I know as a scientist you kind of have to do it.
I was going to say somethingbut I was like, oh wait, hold up
, wait a minute.
But I like to add my own.
Have to do it.
I was spinning the scenes and Iwas like, oh wait, hold up,
wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I like to add my own flair to it.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, oh.
So if Are you a really goodcook I mean I don't know yeah,
Enough to throw down in thekitchen on a Thanksgiving day or
some shit.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, Like my friends enjoy it, but I can't,
like you know, make a restaurantout of it.
Oh hell, no, no way you gotta.
Well, I'm not knocking you, I'mjust saying you gotta Like oh
no, chris, you got to havesomething that'll pop Like oh
man, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh okay, just people out here want to know are you
single taken?
Just in the field I am taken.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You are taken.
Congratulations on that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's hard to find a decent human being nowadays.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I totally agree , yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Was this an organic meeting or was it through the
apps?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
uh, we actually met at church shut your ass.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Really, you got yourself a church guy.
Hey, was it like, how did ithappen, if you don't mind me
asking, how did it happen?
Like did your hands touch whenthe offering was coming around
and you y'all was putting thedollar at the same time, or
y'all had to share communionbread?
I mean, that would be thatwould have been sick, right like
oh here, and he's like oh wait,let me feed it to you girl.
(23:24):
Um, but yeah, how'd y'all meet?
How did we meet actually?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think it was like a welcoming event, and then he
just started talking to me.
Yeah, no way at first I didn'tlike him, but no, like, oh yeah,
like I.
I think I was also at a time inmy life where I just wanted to
focus on me, yeah, so kind ofcame unexpectedly really so he
(23:54):
kept on talking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You didn't like um was the?
Was it him chasing you or beingpersistent that made you see
him in a different way?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
um, I think we were friends first.
I think that helped a lot yeahand he was really patient about
it and I mean, it's not like hekept pursuing me.
I think he was just there as myfriend first.
Yeah, so that that helped oh,yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
How, uh, something from a friendship became
something.
I guess I said that, yeah, butyeah, no, that's, that's
beautiful I, I like that um andhow long y'all been together
we've been together.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wait how long I'm telling your man I mean, I think
it's almost two years now wow,y'all live together.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
He has his own spot.
He has.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
He comes back and forth good is his toothbrush
there?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
yeah, oh, basically he has his own.
Basically y'all live together.
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I mean, my dog is not Super happy about it, but oh
gosh, he gets jealous.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But I bet, like when he comes over your dog's, like
On your side, like Don't youeven dare Sit next to her.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, the first time he actually bit my boyfriend
Shut up.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, for real.
And that didn't scare, thatdidn't scare your man away that
way For real, and that didn'tscare your man away, not in that
way.
He's just like shooing him away.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Really he's like shoo , shoo, shoo and then bit yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
You should have known better what kind of dog Big
small Border Collie, medium size, medium size.
Okay, I don't know what theyare.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, that'sthat's what's up, and then um,
so your man's uh like, uh, is hestill opening the doors for you
?
Is he still doing chivalrousacts for you?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
yeah, every now and then.
Yeah, yeah, I would have toremind him sometimes, but hey,
guy come on man.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But uh, so okay, good guy.
Um, oh god, okay now.
I got questions now, since shetold me you have men and
everything, does he?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
cook for you too, oh, he's a really bad cook.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So oh gosh rather not .
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'd rather do the cooking okay, hey, attagirl,
attagirl, um, uh, so your man um, does he go to?
Does he go to school too?
Is he in that science field aswell?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
No way, he does more plant stuff, but yeah kind of
Same school Same school.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No way.
So you guys see each other likeevery day.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
He's in a different campus, though, so my main
campus is in the medical school.
So yeah, I got insurance onthis yeah, so, so yeah, I mean,
I'm based in kakaago and he'sbased in manoa um, that's like
kanye right oh not that far likecloser to waikiki actually oh,
(26:52):
okay, what's that school?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
do you know that school in Kaneohe where, never
mind, I had an event there?
Well, I did a podcast overthere for someone else and I was
like damn, this is a fuckingdrive.
I was like oh, not too sureyeah, okay, redact, redact that
um having a man and everything,um, and you having a following.
(27:15):
Is he cool with, I guess, guyshitting you up on the dm or
commenting on you know yourpictures and everything, because
I could only understand, youknow people coming at you in
that type of way.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean I guess he knows that I'm really good at
saying no, not in a bad way, butlike.
He knows that I can take careof myself.
So, yeah, he trusts me with itoh, that's good, and he's more
of like a quiet, low-key kind ofguy yeah, so yeah, is it vice
(27:51):
versa too?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
does he have a like a mass following, like you too,
or?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
oh, he's a very private guy that's good, even
better yeah, even when I liketake him to a fence, he would
rather just be in the corner, soyeah, girl, I'm like that too
so I'm like okay holy crap.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Um, when I'm like hosting an event, like like I'm
not I'm not trying to bebig-headed or anything, but if
I'm headlining an event and Ihave to be there, I usually go
up, do my piece and then I'musually in the manager's room
playing Xbox or something.
Really.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I don't want to drink or nothing, because I know I
have to drive home.
I'm not trying to get caught up.
But I get somewhat anxious whenI'm around trying to get caught
up.
But I get somewhat anxious whenI'm around a lot of people in
that type of environment, whenthey're drunk and stuff and
inebriated.
So I'm just like, oh, I don'twant to be, like, if stuff goes
down, I do not want to be thereyou know.
(28:50):
So I'm like, oh yeah hey, thankyou for coming out.
I do a lot of yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So you're better at like a one-on-one conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, I don't know, man, like my wife tells me
otherwise.
She says like I like gettingattention, but I really don't.
You know, it's just, I guess Ican like, especially being in
the military, I could keep aconversation going.
Or especially being in themilitary, I could keep a
conversation going.
Or if I have to be in front ofpeople, then I have a lot of us,
(29:22):
that's like my filler word, butI guess I can keep something
going.
But I really don't like beingwith a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But I do gravitate towards the bathroom a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
If I'm at the bar I'm near the exit.
I like being near the wallbecause it's like I know
someone's not walking behind me.
I guess it's like some type ofphobia or whatever, I don't want
someone coming up behind mestabbing me or putting me on a
chokehold or whatnot Right.
I think about those things.
(30:04):
Yeah, I didn't expect that,expect that, but yeah, yeah, so
I'm just like uh, but yeah, soI'm that type of person.
Uh, when you're at events, areyou like the social butterfly,
are you talking with otherpeople?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I, so I prefer like a one-on-one.
I I would come up to people andall, but I would prefer like a
smaller setting sometimes yeahyeah, because I'm very
soft-spoken too, so I can'tscream and shout and like yeah,
your voice won't project, yeahbut yeah so intimate settings.
You're, you're good I think I'mbetter at that.
(30:32):
I don't know what people yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
How about, like when you're in front?
I saw that you were on a podium.
You sent me that video.
How many people was there whenyou were presenting things?
Or presenting that topic.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So it really depends.
I don't remember which video Isent you, but I know it was
several.
I just like sent you a bunch.
Yeah, yeah, you did yeah um,normally it'll be like at least
30, so you're good with you.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You're good in front of a crowd like public speaking.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I think I grew up watching my dad teach yeah and
um, I think I just took notesand learned from it on how he,
like you know, interacts withthe audience and all that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But yeah, so going to school, did you uh take what's
it called public speakingclasses as well?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
no, I didn't actually oh really just drew me in there
, but yeah, oh snap.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And then in your field you did some psychology.
You know you had to take somepsychology classes too, for bio
or no no, I didn't actually ohbut I love psychology.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I've always wanted to do psychology actually oh
really yeah, but why didn't you?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
asian parents, oh god oh lord, uh, in your house are
you?
Is people allowed to wear theirCrocs in there?
Crocs or shoes, they're reallyrespectable and they take off.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, they kind of know what to do already.
So yeah, they saw all my shoeslike outside.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So, I think they should know, right, oh girl, let
me ask you, Let me ask you Doyou have home slippers for your
guests?
So yeah, I think they shouldknow, right?
Oh, girl, let me ask you, letme ask you do you, um, do you
have home slippers for yourguests?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
no, I don't actually, which I probably should have
girl.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I was thinking I was thinking of like legitimately
buying home slippers for myguests, like when they that's
really smart.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, one of my friend actually does that she
has yeah, right, right she haslike 10 house slippers for her
guests and makes us feel more athome when we come over.
Girl right, that's smart.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was thinking that because um I was on amazon and I
saw it's um, this little boxthingy.
It looks like a shoe box, butpeople will put their foot in it
and it would automaticallysaran wrap their feet.
Oh yeah, it was pretty cool.
So, like they would go, they'llput their feet in and then it
(33:09):
was saran wrap, put other footin saran wrap and then they
would.
They look like scrub moccasins.
I don't know if you've everseen those before.
You know, like when you're insome type of like operating room
and then they have the booniesover.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It looks like that.
Ooh, I don't know if that'scomfortable, but no, but it's
just man.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
They're just walking around socks but like things,
covering their socks, oh okay,okay.
I mean covering their socks, ohokay, okay.
I mean I know it's notcomfortable, I mean what if you
have, like, stuff on your floorbut it I guess you're just not
picking up the dirt if you havewooden floors or whatnot.
But I thought it was prettycool and I was like, oh oh shit,
I'm finna, get uh slippers forhot damn my place.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, no, that's smart.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I should consider buying some oh girl, if you ever
do, just like you know what Iwas, what I was on this podcast,
and that's where I get it fromKudos to me.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
True, hey, oh yeah High five.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
All right, damn, I lost that question.
Do you know your love language?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
My love language.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It's definitely quality time, quality time Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
So let me ask you this then with quality time,
have you ever changed your lovelanguage Like?
Did quality time become like?
You know what?
I just don't like quality timeanymore.
I'm more of a words ofaffirmation type of person.
Has that ever changed likethroughout your ex-amunia years
on earth?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I think my main one has always been like quality
time.
Really Maybe like the secondand third might change every now
and then, but I've always likedquality time, just because I'm
always super busy and I knowlike if I'm working and all you
know, people got to prioritizestuff.
So, yeah, quality time hasalways been my main one.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Really, ooh, oh.
Mine was um, uh.
It was quality time, but then,like when life was lifing right,
words of affirmation became mytop yeah, like change neither
did I, neither did I, until mytherapist said I go to therapy,
you know, I'm saying um he, hesaid that, uh, it's okay for
(35:22):
stuff like that to change,because it used to be um gift
giving.
Right, I love, I liked gettinggifts, but it's, how do I say,
how do I put it without soundinglike a snob?
Okay, I like gifts too.
Yeah, right, like, hey, man, Ibought you this Big.
Mac too, Without even asking orhey.
(35:44):
I got you this headband becauseI knew you liked the color
orange.
I'm like, oh shit, that'swhat's up, you know.
But it was that.
And then it went from qualitytime because it's like I was
kind of needy and shit.
And then it became words ofaffirmation because I'm out a
(36:05):
lot and the things that I do athome usually, like, my wife is
either at work or she's asleep,the babies are asleep and it's
like I do things like in thebackground or whatever.
So when, when they, when theysay thank you or appreciate it,
I'm like, oh yeah, I bet youknow I feel good.
It's like I don't know, I gethorny off that shit.
(36:25):
So I'm just like, oh yeah, yeah, that's great I my boyfriend's
um.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Love language is actually also words of
affirmation right but I'mterrible at it.
Why I, I think, just growing upin an asian household, yeah,
like I don't get that a lotright like oh no, this is true.
I grew up, yeah, okay my parentsnever really say like, oh, I'm
proud of you, or like you'redoing great.
(36:49):
They're always like, oh, yougotta yeah, you gotta do better.
This is what you're, what youneed to need to improve on, and
I think that's what I'm used to.
So I'm like it all started athome when you were a young
laddie.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Oh my God, that's crazy.
Tell me how talks.
I had this conversation theother day.
How toxic you know our Asianparents were.
My dad was pretty toxic.
He gas lit the fuck out ofeveryone.
Toxic, you know our asianparents were.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
My dad was pretty toxic, I'm not.
He uh, he gaslit the fuck outof everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You know, oh no, I'm sorry, yeah, but like, um,
growing up, um, mental healthwasn't ever a big thing, it was
more of a hey, push the fuck on,you know.
So, um, as an Asian parent,well shit, I'm a parent now, I'm
like that in a way, but I camedown several levels.
So you growing up, I mean, howdo you see that?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
as I mean, well, they're a lot better now because
I think I know how to handlemyself and all that.
But I guess growing up I wasalways pushed to be the best,
which in a way it's good yeah,definitely good, I did achieve a
lot of things, um, but also, atthe same time, I'm always.
(38:08):
It made me overthink a lot, andoh and it made me want, to like
improve myself a lot, which Iguess it's also a good thing
yeah and I think I'm just soused to it because that's how
all my friends were really butthen when I came here, when I
met, like you know, my non-asianfriends, I guess they're like
(38:30):
are you sure you're okay?
They'll always ask me thatquestion and I'm like, yeah,
it's just how I grew up, whichis fine, and it made me who I am
now yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Growing up in the asian household, uh, from a wee
little to an adult, you havelike really thick skin that's
true, you know, because my auntsand uncles, they would say a
lot of mean things and then theywould bang on you for crying.
Banging as in like they wouldmake fun of you for crying or
like shedding a tear.
So now it's like, oh okay, allright, you say this about me,
(39:10):
okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It just like goes away yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, oh my God, and it just goes away.
Yeah, yeah, oh my God.
And it's sad now becausethere's a lot of soft-ass
parents I don't know if you seeit as well A lot of coddling, a
lot of enabling and stuff.
I see that and I'm just like,oh my God, these kids are soft
and I'm trying to teach my kidshow to be a little bit you know,
(39:36):
a little bit tough, Like youdon't yeah, like I like to see
things unfold.
You know like there's like alike if my young ones right
brother, sister, if they get ina fight, I'm just trying to see
what would happen before theytell on me, you know, like I
like to tell them like, figureit out With y'all, try to teach
(39:57):
them skills, right?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Do you see parents like that,like I guess, like at church or
when you're walking around,happen to look Until you're
right, because I know you'realways zoned in, like, do you
see?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
that stuff like I mean, yeah, kind of, and I'll
just like.
I actually um, talked to myboyfriend about it and I'm just
like, oh, that's interesting, myparents would never let me do
that, or like stuff like that,right, yeah oh, like the set.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I'm not trying to bash on anyone's kids or
whatever, especially thehawaiian kids, but yeah, oh, I'm
definitely gonna get canceled.
I don't give a fuck, but I'vebeen doing this all the whole
time.
I haven't got canceled yet.
They're not gonna work.
But no, these kids, they'rebadass kids there's some badass
ones out there.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I feel like they need some discipline and I mean, you
don't have to be super harshyeah, but like they need some
you know discipline and theyneed.
Some you know discipline andthey need to be able to survive
in this world too, right?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
oh cause not everything is gonna be given to
them?
Right you feel me Lavinia.
How would you discipline a kid?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
oh, I don't know yet.
Like do you have?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
are.
Are you the only child?
Yes, I'm the only child, okay,see, oh, fuck do you have
nephews and nieces um, I havelike cousins, cousins yeah, are
you like the nice cousin or areyou the more of a reserved
cousin?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
um, honestly, I'm kind of like you can do your own
thing no, girl, no, let me tellyou.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Let me tell you, I was um, I'm in this cousin group
chat and since I'm on hawaii,like I'm, the same way too.
It's like, hey, whateverhappens on the mainland, hey,
thank you for leaving me thefuck out of it, because I cannot
do, I can't I can't help Ican't provide because I'm, you
know, I'm all the way out here.
(41:54):
So yeah, thank you.
You know like I love that.
Yeah, it's just like oh yeah,do your own thing, go ahead.
You know that's your life yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I think over the years I learned to just like you
know let people do their ownthing, because I used to care so
much.
But you know, in anything, justleave me out of it oh yeah, why
did it backfire on you?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
is it be?
Is it?
Did it become a?
He said.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
She said yeah, kind of, and also, like I think I
used to care too much, uh-huhyeah oh, you wanted to like the
family to be strong and like,yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And.
And now you're just like, hey,man, solve your own problems.
Yeah, I got my life to do.
Right, right oh man, you'vebeen on Hawaii for X amount of
years now.
Any word or chances of youdipping the hell out?
Or would you want to raise yourfamily here?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I mean, I really want to like stay here.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Hey, that's what's up .
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I like it out here too, yeah, but we'll see where
my career takes me too, becauseI know there's not too much
biotech stuff here.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
So yeah, we'll see girl, if you, um, if you ever go
to like europe or whatever andyou know, get the inside scoop
on like, oh man, there's thisbio thing that's happening.
Oh yeah, definitely hit me up,all right, cause I'm into, I
love that shit.
You know like I'm like.
I deep dive real quick into the.
Um, I don't want to sayIlluminati bullshit, but like
(43:28):
the, what is it called?
The?
I guess you know, I don't knowthe word.
It's when, like you know what Idon't know, fuck it, I know
what you mean, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, wow, I like that shit.
Do you watch the Last of Us onHBO?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Can shit like that reallyhappen?
Since you're in bio, I mean,could it or is it a chance?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I don't think so.
I mean, even if it happened, Ithink people are really good at
containing it.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Nowadays.
So yeah, I think we should befine, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I hope Right.
Yeah, oh, could.
What did you think, since youknow you're like in science.
What did you think when thecoronavirus came out?
What was your thinking whenthat was coming, because you was
into that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
What was going through your mind and brain Did
you ever thought of?
Maybe I could solve this?
Or how did it start?
Or what kind of strands orcells make like came up to this
to make it so where we have to,like, stay you know X amount of
feet away, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I think it's just like the fires.
Right, it's the same with flu,like if you're, if you're close
to someone who has a flu, thenyou might get the flu too.
Yeah, um, but yeah, I think wewere too slow in like containing
it and people didn't think itwas serious at that time.
(45:04):
Yeah, so I guess that's why itspread rapidly but yeah, as long
as you like, contain it fast,because like in australia they
they contained it really fast sothey didn't have too much cases
.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, oh, educate me on australia.
Real quick quack real quicklike oh I burped oh excuse, oh
yeah, that was orange juice.
Um, excuse me and I am sorry,you're good, you're good.
Um, yeah, how did they containit, like when they found out?
How did they contain that realquick?
Because I, uh, I guess socialmedia never, well, I guess on my
(45:40):
timeline never coveredaustralia like that.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
So I'm not entirely sure a hundred percent, but it's
just from because I I do someresearch in australia.
I'm actually leaving in twoweeks to Australia.
Hey, good day mate.
Yeah, but from what they toldme, so I'm not entirely sure how
true this is.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, it's not verbatim.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Y'all All right, but they just did a lot of travel
ban and they had to, and peoplewere really good at staying away
from each other, they wearmasks when they go out and yeah,
there's just a lot of rulesthat were able to help contain
it a lot better oh okay,interesting.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Um, before we dip out , I want to ask you this you
grew up in indones, indonesia,for 14 years.
What are the paranormal shit inIndonesia?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Paranormal.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Paranormal, like hauntings and stuff.
What's the big one?
Is there a temple or a cemeterythat you're not supposed to go
to because you heard of thesestories?
What's a folklore?
An Indonesian folklore, where,oh shit, I better fucking not
put my feet over the over thebed, otherwise this indonesian
ghost is gonna like rip out mytoes or sometimes that's
(47:00):
actually an interesting questionyeah, well, I'm into that shit
too.
Goddamn paranormal hit me up,you know I would say so, like I.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I know I grew up in ind, indonesia, and all but my
dad's very Chinese, oh, okay.
So we have a lot more likeChinese traditions, okay so.
Chinese phenomenon I guess morelike beliefs.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Oh, yeah, give me one , give me one.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
What you shouldn't do or what you shouldn't do, so
like in Chinese New Year, youknow you're not supposed to
clean up your house or likeclean things, because you're
sweeping away your luck or yourwealth, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Shut the fuck up.
I've never heard that before.
So on Chinese New Year, youdon't clean your house.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, you don't clean your house, you don't wash your
hair because you're throwingaway like the luck On Chinese
New Year.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, Just that specific day, or is it?
Just that specific day, okay,so you don't clean your house,
you don't take a shower oh, youdon't wash your hair.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, but you can take a shower.
Yeah, you can take a shower.
Well, you can yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I hope so.
Yeah, I think you can't you doum, what else?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
oh, you have to wear a new shirt on chinese new year
yeah, and you can't wear blackand white, I think because
that's the color of that yeah,shut up yeah, on just during
chinese new year that day.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Damn what if your favorite colors are black and
white?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
then you're just assed out just that day you can
wear red wear red, wear yellow,wear something but not black and
white.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Oh damn, that's crazy .
What else?
What else happens on chinesenew year that you're not or you
can do?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
oh, there might be too many honestly off the top of
your head.
Those are the three that I likeremembered the most really do
you follow?
Speaker 1 (49:01):
do you follow that?
I kind of do, yeah, you kind ofyeah, you say kind of like
you're unsure, like I mean, wasthere a year that you like?
Speaker 2 (49:09):
oh, I wore black yeah , yeah, I think I did that.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Oh, for real.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Did you change right away, or was it?
I mean, I'm like, oh well, I'mout already, so like yeah, oh,
fuck it.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, oh, okay, I have a lot of.
I don't have a lot of Chinesefriends, but I do have, like a
lot of Vietnamese, vietnamesefriends and I guess they similar
too, yeah, but I've.
I've seen them wear black andwhite.
You know, I went to school withthem, so I've seen them in the
shower.
I saw them put shampoo whenthey shit, you know.
(49:44):
So when you said that, I waslike hold up and then I was
trying to remember things likewait, wait hold up.
I remember, you know, at gym man, my homeboy steven, I saw him
sharing his hair.
I wasn't trying to be a perv,but I do remember him putting
some stuff in his shit, you know.
But oh, that's crazy, and um,the whole sweeping thing, um,
(50:06):
just that day you just don'tclean your house like can you
vacuum, or I I just don't justlike any cleaning.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
yeah, dishes, can you vacuum, or I think it's just
like any cleaning, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Dishes.
Can you wash dishes?
That's some sort of cleaning.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I don't know.
Actually, I think I still didmy dishes.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Okay, oh, that's wild .
Yeah, oh girl, but Lovina, thatshit was fun yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Thank you again.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Girl?
No, I appreciate you.
Thank you for coming on.
Where can these people find youat?
Or do you have any like shoutouts or anything before we dip?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
yeah, well, my instagram is at lavina,
underscore 28, if you want tofind me there and see me share
my stories man, hell yeah,follow her.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Her stories are interesting as hell.
No lie, I like scrolling yourshit because I'm just like oh
hmm, oh, I become a deathscroller.
You know like I just go like oh, whoa cool, um, before we dip
out 28, where is that?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
like a jersey number or it's my birth date, yeah yeah
, typical lavina no, I Icouldn't, because my name is way
too long to just oh, put it outthere yeah, and I'm not super
creative and like making a funname, so yeah, is lavina an
(51:27):
american name, or?
So my parents actually name itfrom love.
Oh yeah, oh good job, parents.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
yeah, oh, I thought it was like a not to disrespect,
but I thought it was like anamerican name that I guess your
parents made up or you made up,because your your original name
was, I guess.
On on, uh, announcement youcan't, I guess, unannouncement
you can't enunciate, or what'sthat word.
(51:57):
Where you can't, you can'tpronounce it Pronounce.
Yeah, it's one of them days,folks, it's one of them days.
But yeah, do you have like anOG Indonesian name?
Or it's been Lavina.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
No, it's always been Lavina.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Okay, yeah, my last name though it's very lavina.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
No, it's always been lavina.
Okay, yeah, my last name,though it's very indonesian.
Oh really yeah oh, okay that'swhat's up.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
I have a lot of.
Yeah, I have a vietnamesefriend like his name's, steve,
but his real name is like tuanduk chu or whatever and I'm just
like yeah, yeah, okay, allright, dog, I'll call you by
that name.
You just told me, you know whatI'm saying.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Shit, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Hey, shout out to KO Studios.
Thank you for the lovely home,rafi.
Bye.
Thank you for the lovely beatsman.
I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I'm Lavina.
Okay, we'll do that in take twoyes.
I'm like, oh wait.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I'm Lavinia.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Ayy, there you go and we out this bitch, peace.
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