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Thirty years after breaking barriers as one of the first Filipino-Americans to chart on Billboard, freestyle music icon Jocelyn Enriquez sits down for an intimate conversation about her remarkable journey through the music industry and beyond.

The conversation begins with nostalgic reflections on how her music impacted a generation of fans, particularly in the Filipino-American community where representation was scarce in the 90s mainstream music scene. With warmth and humor, Jocelyn shares the story of her transition from Bay Area beginnings to San Antonio, Texas—a decision made when she thought she was leaving music behind to focus on raising her family. "We wanted to have four kids and it was like, at that time I wasn't singing, so it was like, okay, we need a slower pace," she explains, describing her "quiet exit" from the industry.

What follows is a fascinating glimpse into how life circumstances led her back to performing nearly a decade later. After a local TV station tracked her down for a "where are they now" feature around 2015, Jocelyn found herself reluctantly stepping back into the spotlight—only to discover a whole new generation of fans alongside those who had treasured her music for decades. Today, she performs alongside fellow freestyle legends in venues across the world, approaching her craft with renewed purpose: "I love what I do now because it's not about me, it's about how the music can impact people."

The conversation delves into the technological revolution that transformed the music industry during her hiatus—from analog recording techniques to digital production and social media promotion—while touching on meaningful personal topics like parenting philosophy, Filipino cultural traditions, and her dream of eventually retiring to the Philippines with her husband to pursue ministry work. Exciting news about upcoming projects rounds out the episode, including a live album, re-releases of her early work, and previously unreleased tracks that fans have been waiting years to hear.

Whether you grew up breaking dance to "Do You Miss Me" or you're discovering Jocelyn Enriquez for the first time, this heartfelt conversation offers both nostalgia and inspiration from an artist who continues to bridge generations through music. Follow Jocelyn on all social platforms and streaming services to stay connected with her ongoing musical journey.

• Growing up in the Bay Area before transitioning to San Diego and eventually settling in San Antonio, Texas
• Finding balance between motherhood and music, including her decision to step back from performing when her children were young
• The unexpected return to music in 2015-2016 after a local TV station featured her in a "where are they now" segment
• Performing with freestyle legends like Cynthia, Johnny O, Lisa Lisa, and Stevie B in concerts around the world
• The significant technological changes in the music industry from analog recording to digital production and social media
• Pride in her Filipino-American heritage and being one of the first Filipino-Americans to chart on Billboard
• Balancing music with her involvement in church ministry alongside her husband
• Upcoming projects including a live album, re-releases of her early work, and previously unreleased singles
• Dreams of eventually retiring to Batangas in the Philippines to continue ministry work
• Reflections on parenting four children while maintaining her musical legacy

Find Jocelyn Enriquez on all streaming platforms, YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook as Jocelyn Enriquez Official.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
hey, five, four, three, two, one.
Welcome back to another episodeof the relationship method
podcast.
I'm chris.
Today I have a very specialguest on the pod.
Um, I grew up listening to her.
I grew up to listen to hermusic.
Man, she filipino too, justlike me.
Man, I'm not even going to getinto the nigger because we will

(00:28):
be getting into it.
Y'all give a hand for MissJocelyn Enriquez.
Yay.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hi Chris hey everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hi man, I'm Jocelyn.
Thank you, oh, I'm Jocelyn.
Thank you, oh, aunt Joc.
And okay, so, ms Jocelyn,before we get into it, how did I
get the yes from you?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, I actually have weekly meetings with my team
and so we, you know, we talkabout the events that are going
on and and an opportunity to dopodcasts.
And I love that, because backin the day, you know, we didn't
have podcasts, we'd have to goto the actual interview or make
radio phone calls.
And so I love Hawaii and I knowthat that's where you're from,

(01:20):
that's where you are.
I love, um, I actually haverelatives in Eva Beach, near
where Kapolei is, and so it'slike it's a win-win situation, I
mean if only.
I could just do the interview,like in person.
You know that would be like thenext best thing, but I'm in,
I'm in, I'm in um, san Antonio,texas, and you know it's like

(01:43):
this is a great opportunity.
And what I love about like justdoing all of these interviews,
you know, regarding my musicfrom 30 years ago, is we get to
talk about how it has impactedpeople's lives, you know, and so
I'm very excited and curious tosee how this is all going to
turn out.

(02:03):
And hello to all the listenersand, uh, thank you, chris, for
having me oh my god, oh, stop,stop it.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh, uh, man.
No, it's a.
It's a great privilege onhaving you on because, uh, like
you said, you're making musiclike way back in there, and I
grew up listening to your music.
Uh, there's like a point in mylife where I used to break dance
to your music, you know,because it was like listening to
freestyle was like the thing tobreak to, you know.

(02:34):
So, man, it is my pleasure tohave you on you're so sweet,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Now the question is are do you still break?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh no, my body can't take it no more.
I'm in my 40s now.
So it's like no way Like I'veseen how it transitioned from
power moves to style now.
And when I was breaking, it wasall power moves right was

(03:05):
breaking, it was all power movesright.
So when I tried getting backinto it, the stop, I was like,
oh no, like I, I needed days torecover from the moves that I'm
trying to execute.
So I was like, uh, you knowwhat?
I'm gonna leave yeah, I'm gonnaleave it to the young bucks to
to carry the torch on, you knowfor real.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I, I feel you, I definitely feel you on that yeah
, heck heck.
Yeah, I didn't say I did anybreaking, but you know the
dancing is.
You know.
You perform 30 years later toyour songs in the same
choreography and your body'slike mad at you for days right,
oh, I know right, you get thattiger bone ready.

(03:40):
So the preparation before a showwas very different from how it
was 30 years ago.
But you know, it's really, it'sall good because you know when
I get to perform and I hope thatone day, sooner than later, I
can perform in Hawaii, because Iremember doing shows at Waikiki
Beach, and which park was it?

(04:02):
Is it Kapalani Park?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah Imight even be pronouncing it
wrong, but, man, I rememberdoing shows over there in hawaii
and it was just such a goodtime and you know it's neat
because people didn't know thatI was filipino how's that like
um, I guess because I guess it'sbecause you know we didn't have

(04:24):
Social media back then and sountil you actually came out To
my shows, or it was through wordof mouth.
Because when you Think JocelynEnriquez, you know that is my
maiden name, but a lot ofFilipinos have Hispanic last
names.
This is true.

(04:54):
So they didn't connect the dots.
And especially coming from thebay, from the bay area, this is
true or Asian markets, and theywould come out to my shows and
sometimes, I kid you not, therewas a few shows that I had done
with a bunch of other acts andyou know they would ask me to be

(05:14):
towards the end of the lineupjust because of the fan base
that came out, and so that wasjust really, really neat and
those are just sweet memoriesthat I get to cherish and now
kind of just share with um, withpeople.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So yeah, oh, um, you just, you just mentioned that
you're originally from, uh, sanfrancisco or the bay area,
correct?
Yes, yes, okay, uh, okay, so,um, what was, what was?
Because, uh, I spent a lot oftime in, you know, the 408, 415
area, you know, growing up, youknow.
And so, when did you make thatmove from first?

(05:52):
When did you make the move fromSan Francisco to Texas?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
if you don't mind me asking, Okay, so okay, I'll,
just because you know this is along story so I need to condense
it.
So I grew up in the Bay AreaElementary school, high school,
pretty much the beginning of mycareer and then I got married to
a wonderful man from San Diegoand before we actually recorded,

(06:23):
I told you who he was.
He's one of the guys fromSimple.
Oh my God, girl, I was therewhen they recorded it, but
anyways.
So we got married, lived in SanDiego for about five years.
And then, 20 years ago, we madethe move to move to San Antonio,

(06:44):
texas, because at that time Ihad actually thought I was done
with my music.
So so, yeah, so fast forward.
Later we moved out here in 2005, 2015, 16 was probably when
kind of I don't know, it's, it's, it's a story for sure.

(07:08):
But I went in kicking andscreaming into the music scene,
but my husband was verysupportive and he was all he was
for it and it was almost like,uh, how could you not like, how
could you not do music again ifthere are people that still you
know, looking for you?
And it was from a local TVstation, they were doing a story

(07:31):
on you know where are you now,and so they found me.
word got around that you couldfind me tucked away in San
Antonio, texas, and so I didthat interview and I was like,
okay, well, this is, this isjust a one-time thing, and it
wasn't.
And soon after that I mean I'mdoing performing again, I'm

(07:54):
doing all these wonderfulinterviews, really just
celebrating that part of music,one as a Filipino-American, but
just also the legacy.
The legacy artist, I meanfreestyle music again is now,
you know, getting its likesecond or third wind, if you

(08:15):
will.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
You know there's a large freestyle community.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And so yeah, that's pretty much in the nutshell.
I mean, it was a progression.
Moving from the Bay Area to SanAntonio, texas, it's definitely
a different lifestyle.
But, like I said, my husbandand I we wanted to have four
kids and it was like at thattime I wasn't singing, so it was
like, okay, we need a slowerpace, like we thought it was the

(08:43):
best thing to do for the twokids that we had at that time.
One was five, the other one was11 months old and then, while
we lived here in San Antonio, wehad two more kids and so we
have a total of four plus mydaughter-in-law and a
granddaughter.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh my god, jocelyn Enriquez has her hands full
y'all.
A lot oh.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'm not saying that, nope, not saying that.
I'm going to get canceled by MsJocelyn Enriquez if I say that.
Stuff, man, you said you moved.
Okay, so you said you movedfrom San Diego to Texas.
Did you guys drive or did youguys fly to your new home and
with that, with all your thingsmoving, because I'm very

(09:36):
accustomed to moving too becauseof the military right.
When they moved your stuff,were you with them or did you
hire someone and was your things?
Did you have any damaged thingsthat you collected via
insurance and everything?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
you're so funny.
These actually no.
Um.
Well, what happened was weactually sold our house before
we, oh, before we moved to sanantonio because we were waiting
for our house.
So it was actually in storage,but, no, we didn't have any
issues storing and moving ourstuff and, honestly, we just got
what we needed, you know,because we knew that we wanted

(10:11):
to start over and then, at thattime, living in Texas, you know,
was a lower cost of living.
However, I was terrified thatwe were not going to have a lot
of like the Filipino, asianAmericans with these staples.
So, you know what I did.
I made sure that I had sacks ofrice stored, I had my jugs of

(10:38):
soy sauce, jugs of white vinegar, to make sure that I had that
on hand when I moved to Texas.
And then come to find out, whenwe moved here, we literally
have a Filipino-Asiansupermarket that's like six
minutes away and they also havelike they serve, like you know,

(11:04):
your turuturu Filipino food.
So I mean all that worrying fornothing.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh my God, do they sell bolot over there too.
Do you like eating bolot aswell?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know I'm a big fan of eating.
Okay, I just can't get myselfto eat the bird, especially when
it's looking at me.
I'm like, nah, I'm good, I dolike the yolk, I do like the
fowl in the egg yolk, but it'sbeen a while.
I mean, it's not something like, ooh, I got to have it.

(11:41):
I mean I'd rather have like,let's go back to the beginning.
It's like mom, could you pleasemake me dinaguan, because I
love dinaguan, ooh, yeah, ohyeah.
You know, it's definitely anacquired taste and I love my.
I love my caracare with theoxtail and the pipe.
So I have to make it Americanstyle when I'm here at home, but

(12:02):
it's okay.
When I go back to the Bay Area,my mom knows exactly what to
cook, because she can cook theoh, of course, of course.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
How about your synagogue?
Do you use fish or do you usepork belly for your synagogue?
Okay, I actually use pork ribsPork Okay, that's a first for me
.
I've never cooked it with porkribs.
Pork spare Okay, that's a firstfor me.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I've never cooked it with pork ribs, pork, spare ribs
is the way to go, really yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm going to try that .
I'm going to cook that youshould yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Especially when you let it simmer for like an hour
and a half and then it justfalls off the bone and you're
like yeah, I don't do fishbecause I'm too lazy to dig
through the bone.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I know, right, I'd be lazy too.
I'd be lazy too, and all that.
So you talked about like, saygosh, it was on the top of my
tongue, you thought you weredone with your music career,
right yeah, you thought you weredone with your music career,
right yeah.
What, like?
What indications did that?

(13:07):
Did you know?
Like, how did you like?
How did you get that feelingwhen you're like, oh snap, I
think it's over, it's time forme to move on to my next chapter
.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think a lot of it was because I was becoming a mom
.
I had already, we had our sonand I would leave and tour for a
long length of time, and so itwas like, as much as I loved it,
it was like I was wanting to behome and I wanted.
My husband and I, we wanted, wewanted to raise him.
We didn't want him going totake him, that, just us.
You know, we thought there wasa lot of benefits with me
staying home and so it was likeit was like, um, just a

(13:53):
realization, like maybe this isnot me anymore, especially
because my heart was wanting tobe at home and then, at the same
time, it was like some of thevenues that I was performing it
wasn't fun anymore at that pointand so it really just, you know
, it came apart.
And then I was like, well, Imean, if something happens, then

(14:16):
you know something happens LikeGod's going to have to write
that on the wall, you know, forme to not perform anymore.
And sure enough, I got pregnantwith our daughter, a baby
number two, and it was like,okay, well, this is the perfect
time to like, just make, justmake, make a quiet exit.
And that's what I did.
It was.

(14:36):
It wasn't like there was anannouncement like oh, this, you
know, this is her farewell, liketour, farewell concert.
For what album?
this is her farewell tour,farewell concert, farewell album
, you know we just kind of likejust left quietly, okay, so yeah
, and that was pretty much it.
And then it was like what shewas.

(15:00):
She was born in 04.
And then again it wasn't until2016, 2015, when things started,
you know, happening again.
And at that point I had twokids later, our oldest son was
now graduating high school, wasin college, and so we were like
you know, our kids are gettingolder.
So, you know, maybe this issomething that we should

(15:22):
consider.
And again I went in kicking andscreaming because I was like
this can't possibly be it.
You know, maybe this issomething that we should
consider.
And again I went in kicking andscreaming because I was like
this can't possibly be it, youknow.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
But it was just very much a good time and, again, an
opportunity to say thank you toeverybody who really made a part
of my music a part of theirlives, who really made my music
a part of their lives, and I'vedone a few shows where people

(15:52):
just pour out their heart andtell me what kind of effect my
music has done in their lives,or even their kids.
I'm like when I meet their kids, they're like you're the one
that the parents would make uslisten to every Saturday morning
.
Yes, and I was like I'm sosorry, but yes, you're the one
that the parents would make uslisten to every Saturday morning
.
And I was like I'm so sorry,but yes you know, and so I love

(16:13):
the fact that I could bridgethat gap.
You know, I could bridge thatgap for certain people's lives
and families.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
But yeah, oh, that's awesome Because I've been in the
Army for the Army for a goodenough change now and, just like
yourself, it was like that timewhere, dude, this isn't fun for
me anymore.
Like I'm mentally like breakingdown, like my body was still
good, but mentally I'm likebecause I've been on like

(16:40):
nine-month assignments andeverything and I was attached to
the infantry.
So, you know the infantrythey're always out training and
they're out like one week, twoweeks, maybe a month or three
months or whatever.
So, um, what?
Because I was probably activeand now I'm in the guard.
Once I was in active, uh, man,like I couldn't stay away from

(17:03):
my kids either.
I was just like dang, this isgetting like super difficult for
me, especially, like you know,getting yelled at by my
sergeants the demand ofexecuting the mission flawlessly
.
I do understand.
So my last year in the activeside 2021, I was really on the

(17:24):
fence on wanting to go back into, you know, the military service
.
But then I got talked to by therecruiter of the national guard
and they're like, hey, once amonth you get to do this, you
get to play army, and then youknow, the rest of the time you
get to be a civilian.
You know, yeah, so that thatthat really caught me.
So now you know I'm in theguard.
So once I got out of active,I'm in the guard and I'm

(17:46):
spending more time with thefamily now and it's like I love
the guard.
You know like we do our, we doour month or two month, you know
assignments and everything, butit's um, the guard is like
really family-based.
So they really like, hey, we'regonna be out for another month.
Do you want to go home or doyou want to stay with us in
training?
So I love the option that theygive.

(18:08):
You know us soldiers in wantingto go home or not.
And of course you know I stay,but, man, you know you got to
ask the wife.
It's like, is it okay?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, and you know what, and because they make that
available to you, doesn't itmake you want to do better, you
know?
Oh, you want to represent whereyou are, and so I mean, I think
for me it really was just alifestyle, um, lifestyle, career
or move.
For me, you know, realistically, it was like okay, well, we're

(18:36):
gonna have two kids, does that?
You know?
What does that mean?
I mean, um, it's, it'sdifferent.
And so we decided, okay, we'regoing to move to Texas and we're
going to, we're going to seewhat opportunities lie over
there.
So I mean, during that time, myhusband and I became.

(19:01):
we became full time ministry,full time ministry in our church
and so again all of thosethings have changed outlook and
everything.
And then, even like withperforming again, it's like you
get to share your, you get toshare your joy with people and
you get to share, you know, yourfaith or whatever, and so it's

(19:24):
just totally a differentperspective, even when you
perform and you know we'retalking about doing freestyle
legacy concerts and it's likeyou're, you know you're.
You're sharing the stage withCynthia, you're sharing the
stage with Johnny O and LisaLisa and Stevie B, and it's like
they're your.
They're your like comrades, youknow they're your like.

(19:44):
They're your like comrades, youknow they're your like your
peer partners, if you will, oryour barcada yeah no, for real,
like they are your straight upbarcadas, they're your acuas,
they're your cuyas.
it's funny because my husband,elaine, he used to, he used to
DJ, and so, like those arerecords that he would spin.

(20:09):
And so you know, while myhusband is supposed to be taking
care of me, he's my roadie, orwhatever.
I'm looking for my husband.
I'm like where is he at?
You know?
I'm like, you know, I need toget ready for my show.
I need him to give me like aword of encouragement, like it's
okay, baby, you're great.
But instead Paul Boyk is nearthe stage with his jaw dropped

(20:34):
watching Angel of Cover Girlsperform, show Me Shining, and
I'm like Paul, you're supposedto be taking care of me.
He's like you don't understand.
This is vinyl, this is reallife vinyl.
And it's like know what?
You're absolutely right, and soit's been really, really fun.

(20:55):
We went to Brazil last summerand we were performing with
Planet Patrol.
Oh, my gosh, how come I can'tget their song, honey, do you
remember what their song was?
Oh, I don't.
Anyways, huh, oh, play at yourown risk, I'm telling you, or

(21:21):
something like that that's aclassic.
Yes, so yeah, they were thereand it was just so fun because
it's like I mean, I don't thinkany of us are like trying to
recreate our career, but peoplejust love our music.
I mean in Brazil they lovefreestyle music so much I mean

(21:41):
they can have a concert hall andthey are like doing their own,
they make up their own life,it's crazy.
I need to visit Brazil yes, youneed to go to Brazil, for sure
it's, but it's just reallyreally neat, like that is where
where I am as an artist.

(22:03):
Okay, yeah, and then we get totalk about Our kids, our
grandkids.
What ailments that we'reTreating right now.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
My back, man my back.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
The best supplements to take, you know.
And it's just like you wouldn'thave gotten that, like 30 years
ago supplements to take, youknow Right, oh my gosh, and it's
just like man, you wouldn'thave gotten that, like 30 years
ago.
You know, because I thinkeveryone is focused on, you know
, making a name for themselvesand I just absolutely love where
I'm at right now.
I'm just really savoring it.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, my goodness.
Oh, ms Jocelyn, are you readyfor these questions?
Sure, okay.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's good, I filtered them, you're straight, you're
good, okay, nothing crazy,nothing crazy.
So the first one is I'msweating now.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Huh, I'm sweating now , oh dang.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Turn that fan up.
Turn that, fan up, turn thatfan up.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
It's a while the first one is any chance of a
stars 54 reunion oh, man, youknow, I would love to do a stars
, uh, stars on 54 reunion.
It's funny because we justcelebrated our 25th anniversary
and then we're actually we havehave a project coming up where
we are releasing vinyl for themusic.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I know for me it's not going to be a problem.
I know that Alternate it won'tbe a problem.
She's actually she's doingreally good things.
She's still in the musicindustry, she's DJing and
whatnot.
But it would probably bedifficult because Amber is in
the UK.
So I mean, yeah, so she's notfrom here, she's from the UK and

(23:53):
so it would definitely bedependent on her.
But again, just to think aboutStars on 54 and how much of an
anthem it has become worldwide,I just love it.
And I love performing that aspart of my set, Because you know

(24:13):
how could you turn a folk songinto such an amazing dance
anthem, and then the remixes andwhatnot.
So I don't know, For me I wouldlove a reunion.
That would be great, but we'llsee.
There's two more other peoplethat that we need to ask
definitely.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I love the fact that you say it's going to go on
vinyl, because I myself I stilluse vinyl, because, uh, I'm a dj
too, but I don't really dj, dj,I'm a scratch dj, but I still
buy vinyls.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know I'm talking about like, about big ones,
right, not the small ones, butthe big ones, and I love to
scratch.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
But oh my gosh, you saying vinyl just feels so good
because you know everything's on, you know mp3, they're mp3s,
mp4s now I know, I know, yeah,so I I miss, I miss that stuff.
But man, hey, if there's a, ifthere's a chance of a reunion,
because I used to go to raves Iheard the 54 drop and I'm just

(25:09):
like, oh man, I'm fist pumpingmy ass off when that drops
Because I hear it and I'm justlike man, I know this joint.
I try to look around, seepeople, you know if they know it
as well, they actually do.
But then when it drops, youknow, when the DJ drops it, I'm
this joint.
I try to look around, seepeople, you know if they know it
as well, they actually do.
But then when it drops, youknow, when the DJ drops it, I'm
just like, yes, per, let's justkill it.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's so funny there's actually some never released
remixes too, and so I'm really,really excited about that.
I actually got to listen to oneand it just I don't't know.
There's just something aboutthat song that just makes you
happy, like you know, in light,especially because, uh, gordon
lightfoot, as he passed away, um, not too long ago, it's like

(25:53):
what a way to celebrate his muse, his musical contributions and
his legacy through this song.
So, yeah, i'm'm excited aboutdropping another Studio 54
release.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Man, heck, yeah.
Next question is and then I'mgoing to try to okay.
Next question is what did youdo when you first got that big
check?
What did?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I do Wait.
There's a big check.
No.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I'm talking about like okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So a big check to-.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, your first big check you know what I'm saying
Like my big check was when Ire-enlisted and I was like, damn
, that's a lot of money, youknow, because you know they're
giving out.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay.
So I don't know if this is like, if you guys ever use this in
your household.
I mean, I don't know it's aFilipino thing for us, but I
remember every single time, likewhen somebody would get their
first paycheck, you know thingfor us.
But I remember every singletime, like when somebody would
get their first paycheck, um,you know they would be like, oh,
where's the blowout?
Like a blow, like we're gonnahave a blowout.

(26:58):
Like like, like where are wegonna eat?
oh, yeah, yeah so it's funnybecause, like with my kids, like
actually hold on, now that I'mthinking about it, my son has
had a job for a long time and henever took me for a blowout.
And I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Oh my, and you better talk to him.
You better talk to him, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, yeah, I'm going to call him after this
interview.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
One of the first things that I did was make sure
that I got to pay it forwardwith my family.
Okay, I did was make sure thatI got to pay it forward with my
family.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
We love food and so I made sure that I took them out
to a nice dinner.
Man, that's good of you.
When I first got thatre-enlistment bonus, I paid off
a lot of my dad's credit carddebt and I paid off my wife's
credit card debt.
So that was my thing to themand I paid off my wife's credit
card debt.
So that was like my thing tothem, you know.
But after that it just went allto savings and my wife splurged

(27:57):
it on the baby.
So I think I only saw.
How many kids do you haveAltogether?
I have four, so I have asix-year-old, an eight-year-old
with my wife, I have an18-year-old that's my wife's
previous marriage and then Ihave a 20 year old from a
previous you know, previousrelationship.
She's in college now okay allright, so we're kind of the same

(28:19):
.
We got four, four, you knowyeah, we got four, four.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
So my oldest is 25 and then my daughter 20, and
then I have a 17 year old who'sgraduating high school, and then
I have a 14 year old.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Ooh, the 14 and 17 year old Are they?
Are they boys?
Are they girls?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Boys.
I have three boys, one girl, mysecond one.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, okay, the boys have.
Are they eye rolling you yet,or are they giving you problems
yet?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Cause my 18 year old was like yeah, man, I'm, oh my
you know, I think I mean myhusband and I, we, we think I
think we established a veryearly rule we're not friends,
we're parents.
Good, good, uh-huh, and so theyhave.
You know, they need tounderstand that.
Um, we could be friends later,but for the most part, I'm very,

(29:14):
very blessed to have reallygreat kids.
You know, we try to keep anopen communication.
You know, nothing is ever asurprise to us.
So we want them to, we want tomake sure that they'll know that
we are always available to talkto them, but thankfully, no,
they haven't given us any issues.
So I don't know.

(29:35):
I think about my childhood andI'm like, even to this day, I
apologize to my mom.
I'm like I'm sorry, it was avery difficult time.
And she's like, oh, ana, no,you were very nice, but yeah,
sometimes you were verydifficult.
Like I know, mom, I'm sorry.
And then she's like, yeah, yourkids are very nice to you.

(29:55):
I said, yeah, I'm very thankful.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Oh, that's good.
So you know, you get to the agewhen kids are just too old to
get spanked.
Now, right?
Yeah so the way I disciplinelike, say, my, you know, my
eldest one and my 18 year old is, you know, I have to think
outside the box.
I took away the door and I knowa team you know they really

(30:22):
what's that word?
They love their privacy.
So instead of taking theirphones away because I know
there's a way, you know, ontheir laptops or whatever, to
get to social media sites orwhatnot taking away their
privacy was a real good way toput them like all right, I kind
of messed up.
I got to listen and follow therules.

(30:43):
Instead of spanking them oryelling at them, I'm like all
right, cool, take off the hingesoff the door.
Right, cool, take off thehinges off the door.
And yeah, I mean to me, thatworked out real good for me,
especially with not the wholespanking part, because you know,
growing up old Filipinohousehold, we're getting spanked
.
It's not child abuse, it'sdiscipline.
So it's like, yeah, I didn'twant to use that anymore.

(31:04):
So I try to like, think outsidethe box when disciplining these
kids.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Are you asking me or are we talking about, like,
parenting kids?
Because for me, yeah, I thinkthe last time I spanked any of
my kids, I think, was when theywere still in elementary.
But we always tell them youknow, this hurts me more than
this hurts you, and we neverspank out of anger.

(31:29):
You know the bible says youknow that.
You know to discipline, you knowwe have to, we have to give
them the rod and so and so theylearned at a very early age,
like you know, um, there'sconsequences when you make poor
choices.
But you know, I love the factthat you know this is it's your
house, it's your.

(31:50):
I mean, unless they're payingfor their computer, unless
they're paying for their phone,I mean you have all, you should
have all access.
But that's just me.
You know, our kids, we raiseour kids very differently.
I mean, um, social media is awhole different story oh my gosh
.
But you know, um, I think, um, Ithink it think it's great that

(32:13):
parents need to be proactive,especially because they still
live under our roofs.
You know they need to haveguidance and they need to know
it's only for their protectionand love.
And I think you know we havehad our share of life and I

(32:46):
think you know we have had ourshare of life.
We have had share, we've hadour stories of heartaches and
heartbreaks, and so I, for me, Idon't want as much as possible,
I, you know, for my kids.
They know that everything is anopen book, we can talk about
these things, but, of course, ifthey make poor choices, then we
really have to sit down and belike, ok, so what are the
consequences?
And they have.
And when we set thoseconsequences, we have to do them

(33:11):
.
We can't be like, oh, I'll takeit back, or you know, okay, you
can't do this, but later on youcan, and then take it away.
So it has to be consistent witheverything, yeah the punishment
has to stick.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, parenting as a whole is different for everybody
.
Yes, parenting is a whole, isis different for everybody.
But again, like for for us, youknow we, we run our house a
little differently than a lot ofpeople, but it's OK.
It's OK.
Our kids know that they'reloved, and you know, I'm sure
that your kids know that theirlove and you know, to each his

(33:49):
own.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Everybody has their own lane to walk through.
Oh, facts to each its own, likeyou know.
Know, we just handle thingsdifferently, but the outcome is
still the same.
There they'll be flourishing,right?
Yes, exactly exactly yeah, ohyeah so the next one is um, what
do you do?
Um, oh, what's the differencebetween you know the business of
being in the industry from backthen to now the well, okay.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
So there, I mean, honestly, there's a big
difference.
I mean even I, as I think aboutit technology wise, you know,
when I would record my music Iwould have to go into the studio
, right yes, yeah well thenyou'd have to run the adats and
you know it wasn't like thecomputer where you literally
take your mouse and you move itto wherever you need to be.

(34:36):
I mean it was like, ok, well,let's go back and redo the hook.
So you'd have to, you know,rewind the tapes and whatnot.
And so definitely thetechnology has advanced, you
know tremendously has advanced,you know tremendously.
You know, back then again wedidn't have social media, so a
lot of like, a lot of peopledidn't know that.

(34:57):
I was Filipino until they wouldgo to the radios, go to the
concerts, go to the autographsignings and so, again, that's
different For me.
My mindset is, you know,looking back there are 30 years
fast forward is really justbeing present when I'm

(35:21):
performing, um, because I'm notagain, I'm, I'm celebrating the
music that that was done 30years ago, you know.
And so now I'm getting toreceive, like their stories.
You know, like I shared withyou earlier, you know, my mom

(35:42):
would make us listen to yoursong on Saturday mornings.
Or you know, this song got methrough a really dark time in my
life, you know.
Or I named my daughter afteryou, you know.
So I get to hear those storiesnow with just really just being

(36:03):
completely grateful and humbledthat, um, after all these years,
my music has made an impact on,on people's, and so 30 years
ago I was like, okay, well,what's my next move?
Or what's my next single?
Or you know, how do I getbetter at my craft?

(36:24):
Or how do I you know what's thenext hit single that I need to
perform and whatnot.
And it's funny because 30 yearsfast forward, I mean, I'm doing
, I'm learning.
Sometimes I have the samechoreography as I had, 30 years
ago or maybe, differentchoreography, but now it's, it

(36:46):
is custom to my, my mobility, mymobility.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's like, ooh, my hip don't move that way, no more
, ooh we got to do somethingelse.
Okay.
I think I can whip my hair likethree times.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's like hold on, hold on.
I can't do that move as I did.
Nope, nope.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Okay, y'all can do that, it's funny because I have
my pencils and my dad's, likeI'm old enough to be your mom
too.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Okay, I'm old enough to be your mom and I'm like, all
right, y'all got it.
Okay, you guys go to the frontso I can see you.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh man, it's like mm nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope, nope, nope nope, nope,nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope, nope nope, nope, nope,nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

(37:49):
Oh man, she's wearing flats.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah right, it's like , ooh that, ankle that, ankle
that eye stuff there that ankle.
Hey, this is real tough.
That's so funny.
That's funny man.
So the difference from backthen and now it's just the whole
social media and technology,then right.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, the all-action, Okay yeah we all-access.
Yeah, we're definitely far moreadvanced.
You could record a music videousing your own phone.
Yeah, you know, back in the dayyou had to like look at
frequency interview a director.
Yeah, so it's different, it'svery different.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Ooh, you said music videos and you know technology
videos and technology beingdifferent back in the day.
Do you have tapes andrecordings of your behind the
scenes, Of you're singing a songand someone's recording you and
when you're out in the booth,you got the behind the scenes of
the music video?
Do you still have those or arethey washed away somewhere?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I don't realize exactly what was happening and
how.
I wish we did a lot more likebehind-the-scenes footage,
because I even the tours, thebus tours that I did, you know,
and you can, all these different.
There's pictures like that, Ifind, for your, even people that
will send to us, but for mepersonally, I don't have a large

(39:17):
library of the Beyond theScenes footage and so a lot of
it is like in my mind, you knowor memory that I like reel back
in.
So I mean, I don't know, maybe Ishould do like a call hey, if
you have any footages of back inthe day, you know with me and
you know, send it over here andwhatnot.

(39:38):
But unfortunately I don't.
I don't and I wish I did.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
The only reason why I brought that up is because a
couple of days ago I found oldtapes of, you know, me and my
cousins.
We performed at Filipinofestivals and stuff and
practices and it knows, and youknow, you have to get a vhs
right.
So, luckily for me, I have avcr still right.
And then, um, we were watchingit and my kids were like, oh,

(40:06):
dad, this is you.
I was like, yeah, man, look atme with the bangs, you know,
with the fade in the bands.
That's me with the big baggyclothes.
That's me.
Oh, my big bag of clothes.
That's me.
Oh my God.
So they're like, oh, you didthis.
Like before.
I was like, yeah, man, I was akid once too.
You know, I was never.
I'm not old all the time I wasa kid, yeah, so do you remember?
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
No, I wish I had more of the behind the scenes
footage, because there's so manystories to tell for that.
I mean not not just for myself,but you're right like for my
kids, you know.
I want them.
I want them to know, like this,just the stuff that that I went
through um with during mycareer.
And because all they know, likeespecially when you're here in
texas, it's like if I stilllived in california maybe they

(40:56):
would be fully aware of just theextent.
But now, like you know, I haveto tell them I'm going to a
filipino american history monthum event, yeah, and it's like
well, why?
You know there's other singerslike why, why?
Why is why?
You and I'm like you knowthere's other singers like why?
You and I'm like you know,first of all, I'm trying to deal
with that question myself too.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
But I get to be a part of that history where you
know, being one of the firstFilipino Americans to make it on
Billboard you know I've neverwon a Grammy, you know, on
billboard, you know I didn't.
I've never won a grammy, youknow.

(41:39):
However, you know my name willbe forever be etched in history
where you know I made, I chartedon billboard charts.
So I mean that's a hugeaccomplishment for our couple
buy-ins, you know.
But a lot of it too is becausethey believe in my music.
They believe in, you know Iwouldn't have been able to do

(42:00):
what I do had it not been forthe fans that took the time to
call the radio stations, thattook the time to go and buy my
CD.
You know that took the time tobe like, oh my goodness, she's
Filipino.
Oh, we should get her for thenext F-Pack or whatever.
College is something about.

(42:21):
What does it mean, as aFilipino-American, to be a good
musician?
Everybody has a part in.
I think I need a JE project.
I call it the JE project.
I call it the JE project.
I talk in third personsometimes because I forget.
It's like oh shoot, that's meyou know.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
so yeah, oh, wow.
And then next question is whatis your dream place to retire at
?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Oh, that's a great question.
I love that my husband and Ihave move to the Philippines

(43:12):
because we have a heart forministry and we would love to
church where his late fathergrew up and and and and
evangelize and share the joy ofJesus over there.
So that's been a heart desiresince 2019.

(43:34):
We actually went out there, wedid some mission work, we served
alongside a bible college overthere and, um, you know,
unbeknownst to each other, we,our heart was very heavy for um,
the province that myfather-in-law grew up in, and we
talked about it and both of uswere like bawling because he

(43:57):
felt the same way, I felt thesame way and we never talked
about it.
So I don't know, that's, that'sa dream.
Um, retirement, uh place wouldbe back back in the back in the
Philippines.
We weren't born there, but it'salso giving back to our families
, our parents that immigratedfrom there to here to give us a

(44:21):
wonderful life.
And so what more to give backto our families back home?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Is there a specific place like a specific province,
or will you be living in Manilaor Baguio or anything?
Is there something specificplace, like a specific province,
or will you be living in Manilaor Baguio or anything?
Is there somewhere specific oris it just?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Well, I live, my parents grew up, my parents are
closer to Baguio, but it wouldbe.
It would be.
Oh my gosh, I can't even thinkright now.
Batangas, oh my gosh, I can'teven think right now.
Batangas, oh, batangas, I'm sohappy.
Thank you, eddie, for listening.

(44:59):
We would love to be in Batangas.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay, okay, beautiful place.
My dad is from Mindanao.
Okay, yeah, so my birth mom.
I think she's from Tanao.
Okay yeah, so my birth mom.
I think she's from Tarlac.
I don't know who my mom was,but he would tell me that, yeah,
she's from Tarlac.
So Mindanao.
I like it there, a little hot,but I mean I like how it's so

(45:26):
far away from everything.
So it's like super, it's superpeaceful.
But I do get the heebie-jeebieswhen I hear, you know, the
Aswang stories, the White Ladystories, the dwarf stories.
That still gets me, you know,like to this day, because I'm
really into the paranormal likethat.
But yeah, when I'm back home Ijust love hearing those stories

(45:46):
and I'm just like, oh my God,I'm staying in the light, I'm
not turning off this light, I'mstaying in the light, I'm not
turning off this light.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I'm just staying right here, you know?
Oh man, You're a city folk incomparison to Well, because
Mindanao is very countrysideright, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, batangas I meanthey're very westernized over
there.
When I would do tours in thePhilippines, I would always try
to make it a point to spend aday or two visiting my family

(46:18):
province.
Oh, definitely.
So it's just definitelysomething that God has put on
our hearts to go back and reallyjust get back to our ancestry,
if you will.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Okay, okay, mar, I'm good for you.
Good for you.
Yes, I got the adding um, so,uh, what?
What are your next projects?
What do you got coming up?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
so it's.
It's funny because I mean it'san ongoing thing.
You know, with the legacyartists I get to do a lot of
shows that pertain to, like I'mdoing an 80s, 90s concert coming
up in Chicago.
It's, you know, crystal Waters,la Bouche, crutch, from Madi by

(47:11):
Nature, I mean, and they'rejust very like random, yeah,
very random artists.
I'll be in Dallas and I'm goingto be doing another show with
another lineup of people, and soin Chicago I'll be in New York
or the New York area in thesummertime and you know, the

(47:32):
shows are getting added on as wesee getting worked on and so I
try to keep myself busy.
But you know, again, at the sametime I'm a mom, and so I'm a
mom.
I'm a ministry.
My husband is a worship pastorfor a church, so I get to come
alongside him and help withwhatever ministry that he has.

(47:55):
I came back from a women'sretreat and so I did the worship
retreat over there.
So you know, in the midst of myshows and my projects, I get to
do life here at home and I havea son that's going to be
graduating high school and he'sleaving his mother, not just

(48:16):
kidding, he's leaving his motherand he's going to go to school
in College Station in DeFallon.
I have been very fortunatebecause my two older kids they
decided to go to school aroundtown and so they were commuters.
They decided to go to schoolaround town and so they were
commuters.
So this is the first time thatI'm going to have one of my kids
actually leave for a longperiod of time.

(48:39):
My daughter just came back fromdoing a study abroad program in
Greece, and so that was alittle hard for me and I'm very
close to all my kids.
You know it's like that in everyFilipino home, and so, um, this
will be different.
But, uh, I know that I'll keepmyself busy and just again, just

(49:00):
the different projects that I'mdoing.
we're about to get ready torelease, in the summertime, a
live album and then, um, I we'reactually re-releasing some of
the songs from my first album onBig Love, and then an album and
a single that we never reallyofficially released, called Only

(49:23):
, which is another freestylesong, and it's one of my
husband's favorite freestylesongs that I recorded.
So I'm really really excited,really excited.
all the different projects youknow, and again, I'm also
recording in the studio uh songsthat so like it might be an
original that I'm writing, or itmight be a song that I grew up

(49:46):
listening to, um, and I get tomake it my own, and so, um, yeah
, I, there's never a dull momentin my life damn, hey,
definitely, definitely, becauseuh are one of these songs that
will be coming out.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Are they going to be in tagalog?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
no, but but you know that I have a tagalog song of my
second right is it yes I lovethat song.
I love so that song.
So it, that song um wasreleased in japanese, in english
and in tagalog okay, and Iheard that song in high school

(50:33):
and I was like if I were to everrelease Any album, and this was
when I was still in high school.
I want to put that song out.
However, if I record a Sadalasong, it'll be your idea.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
No way for real yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I'm like you know what that's a yeah, I'm like you
know what that's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
I'm going to brainstorm and I'm going to
shoot.
I got your email address now,so I'm going to shoot that.
Once I get it, I'm going toshoot it.
No, but going back to Kaila,that was like one of my favorite
when I started listening toTagalog music heavy, that was
one of the songs that like, ohsnap, like my language really

(51:17):
does sound good.
Yeah, it does sound good, andI'm like man, mm-mm-mm, Because
after, you know, I listened tothat song.
You know I had Napster andeverything.
So I was like, okay, let me dothis, let me do that.
And then Dahil Say, you'll like, that's what I started
listening to next.
And then all these other lovesongs, because my, my dad used

(51:38):
to listen, you know, watch thesemovies and I would listen to
the soundtracks of them.
So, yeah, like I think I thinkkailan mom fucking like, oh well
, it's okay, um it, it.
But it opened the.
You know, like the, the Tagalogsong.
You know, that's that slowversion, like to me.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
So, girl, you did that.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
You know what's funny ?
No, I, I, I actually covered it.
I don't want to take any creditfor it.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Like to this day, like you know, because the
Tagalog language I mean it couldbe super deep, right, yeah,
yeah.
Language, I mean it could besuper deep, right, yeah, yeah.
So I'm not even sure that theEnglish version of it is
completely like it's translated,but I don't know if it's fully
accurate with the meaning of itin Tagalog.

(52:26):
In Tagalog, yeah, but it's,it's so deep and there's just
something about that song.
It's just the melody line, theway the chords are arranged.
It's just a sweet song, and soI was like I'm going to record
that song if I ever get a chanceto, but I don't know, maybe a

(52:50):
Taglish song.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Ooh, that would be sick.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
See, I got you thinking, I got you thinking yes
, so those are the differentprojects that I'm working on
okay, oh, that's what's up.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
So, manon Joss, that was fun.
Do you have any like shout outsor anything?
And where can you know thesepeople find you at?
Okay.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
So first of all, I just want to thank you.
Chris and tell your wife thankyou for letting me hang out with
you this morning.
It's morning to you, afternoonfor me, yeah, just thank you for
allowing me to share my storywith your listeners and you know

(53:36):
your listeners.
That are that are listening.
It really is an opportunity forme to say thank you for
allowing me to do what I do,even from 30 years ago, and
being able to share my story.
You know, I love what I do nowbecause it's not about me, it's
about how the music can impactpeople, and so it's just, you

(54:01):
know, just it's being able tocontinue to do what I do and
hopefully one day I'll get tosee you guys in Kapolei or
somewhere in the Hawaii area.
That'd be sick.
Yeah, I would love to see youguys in Kapolei or somewhere in
the Hawaii area.
That'd be sick.
Yeah, I would love to be outthere and perform again because

(54:22):
it's been a minute and yeah,just thank you so much.
Thank you for allowing me to behere, and you can find my music
on all platforms.
I have Spotify.
I have wherever you youpurchase your, download, your
music.
I also have my YouTube channel,jocelyn Enriquez.
I have IG.
I have Facebook, jocelynEnriquez Official.

(54:43):
If you are curious about whatI'm doing and you know what my
family looks like and you knowwhat, how life moves me, I would
love to see you there.
And, uh, again, just thank you.
And for those of you that arewatching and aren't in the
hawaii area and maybe in themainland.
Um, I will be in differentparts of the country and I hope

(55:07):
to see my performances.
And please make sure you say hiand mention Chris and his
Podcast and I'll be like oh yeah, that's my Adi.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Man, that's my mom.
Y'all better step back.
She might have a bad hip, butshe'll whoop y'all Well said
With that man, shout out to KOStudios.
Thank you for the lovely home.
Rafi Baye, my man, thank youfor the lovely vibe, and with

(55:39):
that I'm Chris.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Mahalo, I'm Jocelyn Enriquez.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Hell yeah, and we out Peace.
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