April 8, 2025 • 51 mins
Ever wondered what goes on in the mind of a turntable virtuoso? DJ Q-Bert, one of the most influential scratch DJs in history, pulls back the curtain on his extraordinary journey and creative process in this revealing conversation.
The legendary turntablist breaks down how mathematics transformed his understanding of scratching, explaining that what seemed like complex patterns were actually simple numerical divisions: "It's just fucking numbers." This mathematical approach, combined with his focus on making scratches that rhyme poetically, elevated his art beyond mere technical prowess. Q-Bert emphasizes that style consistently trumps technicality—a philosophy that applies across all elements of hip-hop culture.
What truly sets this episode apart is Q-Bert's spiritual perspective on creativity. He shares profound insights about manifestation, describing how his album concepts evolved beyond his initial vision once he committed to them. "If you have a dream of something amazing, it always becomes more amazing than you expected," he explains, recounting how synchronicities appeared when he remained faithful to his vision. His morning meditation practice, capturing creative ideas in the liminal space between sleep and wakefulness, offers a practical technique anyone can adopt.
The conversation weaves through fascinating origin stories—from how his relationship began with a crystal healing gesture to how the iconic Scratchy Seal character emerged from a puppet stand in Japan. Q-Bert also reveals how the QFO portable turntable was inspired by Hawaiian beach sessions and his desire to scratch alongside ukulele players.
Whether you're a dedicated turntablist, a casual hip-hop fan, or simply someone seeking creative inspiration, this episode delivers invaluable wisdom about persistence, artistic evolution, and finding your unique path. Listen now and discover why Q-Bert remains not just a technical pioneer but a philosophical guide to creative fulfillment.
Ready to level up your scratching? Follow DJ Q-Bert on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube for his daily technique tutorials in "A Year in Scratching" and visit djqbert.com to explore his latest innovations, including the new 8-inch "Super Seal" records.
• Hip-hop is moving in multiple directions simultaneously rather than following a single path
• Q-Bert discovered scratching is fundamentally mathematical, with patterns based on numerical divisions
• Style and flow in scratching matters more than technical complexity, similar to an MC's rhyming ability
• Meditation and the state between sleep and wakefulness provide powerful connections to creativity
• Manifesting creative dreams requires faith, patience, and consistent effort
• Success doesn't happen overnight—it requires adding "one brick to the castle" consistently
• The QFO portable turntable was invented specifically for scratching at Hawaiian beaches
• New 8-inch "Super Seal" and "Scratchy Seal" records are designed for improved scratching technique
• The Invisible Scratch Pickles album is nearly complete at 90%
Check out DJ Q-Bert's daily scratching techniques on TikTok @djqbert1, Instagram @djqbert, or YouTube.com/thRumble, and learn more at djqbert.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Relationship Method
Podcast.
I'm Chris.
Today I have an awesome,awesome guest for y'all.
I grew up watching this guy onDVD man, one of my inspirations
(00:26):
on how I started scratching man.
I'm not even going to waste anymore time on his introduction
because he can speak on himself.
Man, I got DJ Q Burt on the pod.
What's up?
Yay?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
What up, what up, what up.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What up my man?
What up my man.
And before we get this shitpopping, sir, how did I get the
yes from you to come on?
You know my little, you know mylittle podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Um, you know, I don't know, it's just kinda I seen
you, seen you was from Hawaii.
I was like ah shit, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Hey, okay, it's just the Hawaii vibes.
Huh, yes, yes, yes, hey, bro,that's what's up.
And then, where are you atright now?
Like, where parts of the worldare you at right now?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'm in the Bay Area near San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Hey, okay, okay, growing up, I did spend a lot of
time up in Frisco.
I grew up in Monterey, theMonterey Bay area, the A31 area,
so just two hours away fromy'all.
It's beautiful, beautiful,beautiful.
Oh, definitely beautiful,definitely beautiful.
And, bro, let me ask you We'llget into these questions because
(01:40):
you don't need.
No, we're not going to go intoyour background, robert, because
these motherfuckers shouldalready know who the fuck you
are.
Um, uh, hip-hop nowadays, right, how do you like the direction
on?
You know where it's headedright now well, it's not headed
in one direction.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's going like this, it's like a freaking, it's
going like this all kinds ofdirections.
So now, now you're gonna startpicking like, okay, I like that
direction, I like this direction, it's like a freaking.
It's going like this all kindsof directions.
So now, now you're gonna startpicking, like, okay, I like that
direction, I like thisdirection.
It's not just one direction, sothey just want to make that
like that clear.
But, um, I'm, and with that, Ilove, you know, like hardcore
break dancing I love, I loveb-boying, I love like super
crazy popping, I love, um, youknow, the graffiti's advancing
(02:22):
too.
Even in that, the wholegraffiti world it's like going
in different directions.
The whole graffiti world, it'slike going in different
directions.
The whole dancing world isgoing in different directions.
The music is going in differentdirections.
So I like to just kind of like,I like the raw beats when it
comes to hip hop.
So you know, oh, oh, you know,I call it a acquired taste for
(02:42):
certain types of drums that Ilike.
Well, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh, okay, so were you five elements of hip-hop right?
Were you ever a B-boy beforeyou started scratching, or you
caught on to scratching beforeyou started B-boying?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh yeah, I was a B-boy and all that.
And then I would go out incircles and get my ass whooped
and I'm like, okay, I think I'lltry DJing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, okay.
Were you the type of kids thatwould bring linoleum or
cardboard around too?
Because that's what we did.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We would just go to a place they had like a
children's center, like a whatdo you call it A place for kids
to go to just practicebreakdancing and all that.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, hell, no, everybody was super good and I
was like I forget this, bro, letme.
Let me tell you that, like backin the day, it was all about
power moves right and not style.
So that stuff evolved, andthat's, I think, when style
started coming in.
That's when I took a backseatand I was like, oh no, I cannot
do this stuff anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I mean, that's the same with DJing.
Right, you got the guys thatare doing the power moves, which
are crazy and stuff, butthey're not rhyming or there's
nothing poetic about thescratching.
So, once again, movement tostyle.
Style always beats technicalityand all that?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely Like the
flow of the scratch, am Icorrect?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Sure the poetry, like if you're rhyming like a great
MC, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Dude, so let me kick.
Could I ask you like, when didyou started because of course
you had to learn the basicscratches right when did you
started Making it, making itinto like some some of language,
to where you know the questionand answer thing, where you were
just not even like the?
You know the power moves of thescratch but the flow of the
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scratch?
When did you started likethinking, oh man, I could just
do this as a melody and not justkill them with you know a
triple click player or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Probably, like, I guess, in the 90s.
I mean, it was in the back ofmy head, so I was doing it in
the back of my head, but thenwhen I realized it, like, oh
wait, you got to make yourscratches rhyme.
Yeah, probably in the 90s.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, and was this in your garage?
Or were you just messing withyou and your homies in the sesh?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I was just feeling it .
I think I was at a club and Iwas like saying something in my
head like a scratch, and I waslike, oh shit, it's like it's
rhyming.
So like usually, you know,normally the ends of the scratch
would rhyme.
Like if you, you know, yousimply just go and you just keep
repeating that that becomes arhyme, like see how all that
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whole shit rhymes.
And I wasn't even doinganything complicated.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Ooh bro, I hope everyone's taking notes, because
these are gems you're dropping,bro, and they're simple gems.
It's simple math, like stupid.
Keep it simple, stupid, rightKiss.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, for sure.
And then there's different likerhythms I didn't know about
rhythms when I was, when I wasdj, I was just making all these
patterns and I was like I didn'tknow that it was divisions of
numbers so music is just mathright one, two, three, four, one
two, three, four, five, one,two, three, four, five, one, two
, three, one, two, three, one,two, three, five, seven, one,
two, three, five, seven, one,two, three five, seven, so it's
all was like oh shit it's justfucking numbers.
(06:04):
So you start putting all thesenumbers together with the rhymes
and it was like, oh fuck that'show you make patterns, because
I was just thinking, oh, that'sa cool pattern.
I want to listen to jazzmusicians to learn all these
patterns.
But I didn't know, it was justall math.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Bro, that's crazy that you said that, because me
and the kids in the Y we watchedPiece by Piece by Pharrell last
night Shout out to Peacock andhe says that he sees music in
colors and in waves and stuff.
Is that how you see your art?
Do you see it like in colors ordo you just hear like snares,
beats and drums and that's howyou come up with masterpieces.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh yeah, it's like, besides the math part, then you
get into all this other.
You know, like the colors, andyou can see everything and the
emotions, and all the way up tobeing spiritual and healing
people with your music.
It's so many different levelsall intertwined into one
beautiful thing you're trying toput into the universe.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh yeah, oh, definitely, definitely.
And dude, how did you get thename Q-Bert?
I know the origin, but peoplethat don't know you like, how
did you get it?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I just did a video game.
My last name started with a Qand then people just started
calling me Q-Bert.
It was like silly, and then itjust you know, was like dang,
you know I wish I knew about.
You know, like, um, you eversee dc comics, they have a dc
universe and all the charactersin there.
I wish I knew about that I canread all the characters names
and go into the marvel universeand put that together and make
up a really cool name, becausethey got the best names of
(07:40):
superhero characters oh my gosh,right, I mean like the original
, like I don't even want to sayit's boring, but you know, like,
say, in Marvel, you got MarvelGirl.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean super simple, but goddamn, that kind of it
hits.
You feel me.
And then like, let's say, inthe DC world, batman, I mean
that shit hits and it's justBatman, you know.
So, like I'll be feeling thatshit, I'll be feeling that shit.
And um, oh, one more thing isuh, like social media nowadays,
(08:15):
right, well, when I was watchingyou, it was all on.
It was all on like tapes andstuff, like we didn't have the
internet.
So it would like a bootlegbecome another bootleg, become a
new bootleg, and then I wouldlike me and my boys would get
the tapes of you.
Do you think like social mediaif you had it back in the day,
you know when you were with youknow Scratchin' with the Boys?
(08:38):
Do you think it would have beenlike more worldwide now,
because I mean, your name islike pretty world known?
Do you think it would like blowup?
And were you ready and expect?
Like, did you know you weregoing to blow up the way you
were?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Well, it's weird because right when we started,
the crew Invisible Scratchbecause it was like 1987,
whatever 86?
.
Yeah.
Was it no?
No, no, sorry.
97, the internet was alreadythere, so it was like okay,
let's take advantage of thisthing, whatever it is.
So it was kind of already therewhen the cruise started and,
but we started in the 80s, inthe late uh, 85, whatever and it
(09:21):
was yeah, you're right aroundthat time.
It was just VHS.
Yeah, that's how we.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Caught on to y'all Because we saw this bootleg
video and, mind you, you know,like the old school VCRs where
you had to do the trackings andstuff, and they'll be all
blurred and distorted.
That's how me and my Friendswatched you when you went up
Against the Executioners, theX-Men.
And when you went up, uh, whenyou went up against, uh, the
executioners, the x-men, and, um, when you had that little, that
(09:49):
battle with you, uh, mix and um, yoga, wait, was it yoga frog?
Yeah, oh, shortcut, yeah, whenyou were just battling, that's
the first time that we ever sawthat.
We're just like what the fuckis this so?
So that's when we startedscratching and we're just like,
oh, and then your DVDs, yourself-taught DVDs, came out.
(10:09):
So your shit was just like onrepeat for us for like the
longest time Because, dude, likewe would never know where you
would.
You know where you guys wouldbe at, like we would know One of
my boys knew where you guyslived or what city y'all lived
in, but we just didn't know,like, what spots y'all would be
at, because you know, we're sofar away from y'all so we don't
(10:32):
know how those tapes would comearound us.
But yeah, man, it was apleasure and it was like
enjoyable just to watch y'all doy'all thing.
Thank you, oh, you're verywelcome.
All right, so let's see here,here we go.
Here's one from one of mylisteners how did you come up
with your titles for yourrecords and shit Like Toasted,
(10:53):
marshmallow Breaks and BionicBoogers?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, you know, we had a crew of funny guys.
Dj Disq was in the crew backthen.
He was a funny guy.
There was people in other crewstoo Eddie Depp and EJ Quest.
They were in a crew calledBulletproof Scratch Hamsters and
just, we had a bunch of, likeyou know, comedians in our group
, and the more stupid the name,the better you know, such as
Invisible Scratch Pills.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh man, that's crazy because, like, I try to come up
with stuff too.
I call my little one and afemale.
That's sweet.
I would call them sugar booger,because sugar as in sweet
booger, because I'd pick themfirst.
You know what I'm saying.
But that's crazy.
With all these records, how didScratchy Seal ever came up?
(11:40):
Were you high one day, drunkone day?
We're like you know what.
We're going to have a seal asone of our icons, like one of
our symbols and like what?
Like?
Were you high one day, drunkone day?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
we're like you know what we finna have like a seal
as our as like as one of ouricons, like one of our symbols.
And I think, uh, me and me andyoga frog were at uh um in japan
one time and there was a, apuppet stand and they had like a
seal and I grabbed it and Istarted talking with it and then
he filmed me and that was it.
We're like, fucking, we'regonna buy this shit, so stupid
bro, that's such a simple originstory, right?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I just picked it up, started talking to it scratch,
you know, seal, scratch, seal,fuck it'll SS, you know I'm
saying, yeah, then mix match.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
The mic would always have the um the titles with the
same letters.
Like Mix Master, mike, you knowScratch the Seal.
Bionic, booker, briggs, andthen.
So from there, everything waslike the same lettered words and
stuff, like a lot of the titlesNot all of them, but a lot of
them, because it sounds funnier.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh shit, I love those man, I love those.
Let's see.
Oh okay, here's another one.
How do you see culture ofscratching these days without
vinyl and everything digital?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, not everything is digital, but yeah, there's a
lot of that.
I think it's beautiful.
You don't have to carry allyour records and all that.
And then we make these recordstoo, where we work with digital
companies, where one side isdigital and the other side is
analog, so it's both worlds inone now.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So it's really convenient.
Yeah, did you have a hard timeadjusting to, like, say, the
digital opposed to vinyl,because I love vinyl.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I can't see myself scratching on what I tried and
it just sounded so funky, man.
Yeah, I mean, there's vinyl,which is the most accurate, of
course.
So you can't get away from itbecause for scratching it's the
most accurate.
But then digital, you've gotTractor DJI Pro Serato.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Phase.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You have all these other different levels.
And after the ones that I justmentioned, I think, um, there's
another one I forgot the name ofit but, um, those are pretty
much the most accurate, forthat's closest to vinyl.
But everything under that I'vetested I'm like, oh man, it's
like it's not as accurate, butin the beginning it really
wasn't accurate, but now,because technology keeps
advancing, it's pretty close tovinyl.
(14:04):
But oh but nothing can't bevinyl.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean like you can't.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Like you know, I'm not gonna carry all my creative
records, so yes, that's theadvantage of course, but with
scratching you have to.
I mean, you know, I love thatthat little extra.
You know know um accuracy, butfor a normal scratcher that
doesn't do all the wild that wedo they probably wouldn't notice
that without, without anytechnology huh interesting,
(14:38):
they're just doing some basicfit whatever.
But if I'm doing like if Igotta do that, oh man, I I love
vinyl.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Mm.
Hey, facts, facts.
Oh, you know what?
Out of curiosity, how manyneedles have you thrashed
throughout your lifetime?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I can't even count that.
That's a great question.
I never counted it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Okay, here's another one With me.
No, no, oh, what advice can yougive turntable-heads out there
on how to excel in their scratchvocabulary, like by themselves,
like they're not going toschool, or they're not going to
these workshops by themselves?
Do you have any tips on, let'ssay, a person that's just at
home just scratching?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
trying to make it.
I'm putting up this thing.
It's called a year inscratching.
Right now, a year in scratching.
So every day I'll put up a newtechnique.
And it's on a year inscratching right now, one year
in scratching.
So every day I'll put up a newtechnique.
And it's on.
It's on my tiktok uh, dj cuberone.
Because there's a bunch of djcubers on there.
So I had to, I had to fuckinggrab dj cuba one.
All these fake dj cubers, theyall have my picture of my face
on it oh yeah I love it, and orgo on youtube.
(15:44):
Youtubecom slash th Rumble andthen they can see the same cards
, or on my Instagram at DJ Qbert.
If you want to learn how toscratch and then if you want to
get really deep into it, watchWisdom of Wax on YouTubecom.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Oh bro, University of YouTube changed a lot of
people's lives.
I tell you that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I'm on number 143.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh, I love you too.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Number 143.
Just happened on youtubecomslash Fred Roman.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Hey, that's what's up , man.
I'll make sure to put in thatlink and all that shizazz man to
hook you up.
I haven't scratched with a lotof DJs out here in Hawaii yet.
I recently moved here in 2018.
So, it's like.
Colossus.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Paco.
I'll name off the guys Paco,colossus, dj, idea man, there's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
They're out here on Honolulu.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, deadfoot, who else is there Did?
I say Paco yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, well, shit, I'll gooff and stalk their Instagram.
Yeah, hang out with those guys.
Those are their homies.
When I lived out in Hawaii, Iwould practice with them at
Sandy's Beach all the time.
That's the time.
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That's not that.
Why, you know?
You ever heard the QFO?
Yeah, the QFO is like the firstportable turntable.
It was invented because ofHawaii, because I would go to
Hawaii and I was scratching mycar and I'm like man.
These guys are playing, youknow, ukulele and guitar out
there and whatever at the beachand I'm'm like, damn, I need to
(17:28):
bring a turntable out here.
So that's why that QF wasinvented for portability.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No fucking way.
I always wondered how that cameabout.
I was going to ask you that howdid you come up with that
little, the small little turnwith the mixer, the fader on the
side, the origin of that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
and yo dude, thank you, man, because you came out
to hawaii yeah, I, I lived outthere, so like I want to
practice, so I would um I I wassponsored by vestex at the time,
before they yeah, yeah stoppedand I I drew a turntable with a
fader on it, and then they madeit.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Holy shit.
What do you miss about Hawaii,man?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know the weather and I love the nature, of course
.
I mean I go back and forth, butI'm actually going back there
soon.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh, for real Honolulu , or you going to the other
islands like Big Island, maui.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
My dad's from Big Island and my brother's out
there, so I might, I might goout there.
But all the islands I want tobe at, all of them I love.
I love the energy of everyisland.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's different oh, oh , definitely, definitely like uh
uh, honolulu is more fast-pacedcompared to, like, maui and
Island and Kauai and all thatstuff.
Like I told you, like earlier,I'm in the military and dude,
the dynamics of each island istotally different.
(18:58):
You got you know, like overhere it's like super fast-paced
and like it's a melting pot oflike a lot of you know, a lot of
religions and a lot of races,right, but then when you go to
these outer islands it's like,oh, it's all man, I feel like a
majority, you know,predominantly majority.
You know what I'm saying.
So yeah, but over here, man yeah, oh yeah, man and dude Filipino
(19:25):
.
Yeah, yeah, Filipino.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
My great-grandfather is part Turkish, of course
there's a Spanish from mymother's side, and then a little
bit Chinese.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh, my classmates are good, your Turkish side.
Have you ever visited Turkey?
Or you like, dwindled in?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
that type of I haven't.
Not deep, you know, maybe likea Turkish bazaar thing, but
nothing deep I want to go.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, hey, shoot, that should be on your bucket
list, my guy.
Oh yes, yes, all right, here'sanother cue.
Oh yeah, what keeps youmotivated in scratching?
Because I know you've beendoing this for like X amount of
years now, right?
What's keeping you going?
What's keeping that motor freshand so up to date with
(20:20):
everything?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, first of all, it's fun to me.
Second is knowing that it's aninfinity to me uh.
Second is like knowing thatit's an infinity and it's um,
it's kind of like like bruce lee, who loves you, know his
martial arts and he's just gonnanever stop.
There's something like thatwhere it's like it's like a
passion that that you're bornwith.
You know, yeah, you know,everyone should be following
their passions, of course, andof course it makes me happy
(20:43):
because, um, when I found outwhat the ultimate happiness is
is giving right.
So if I can give what I love todo at the same time, shit that's
even more happy.
So I feel at peace when I'm inmy element, doing the gifts of
what the universe gave me togive the rest of the world.
(21:04):
So everyone should be doingthat, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Oh, definitely, definitely.
And another caveat off thatquestion before scratching, what
were you doing?
Yeah, what were you doingbefore you started scratching
and stuff?
What was the origin of thatshit?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, I started when I was 15, so anything before
that was I was just findingmyself finding that I wasn't
good at breaking.
And then what else was there?
Graffiti, I was never good at,but I do have to tag my name.
You know, when I do like littleautographs and after a while I
deal with that and it was like Iguess, with anything you can't
(21:48):
give up.
If you suck at it, if you keepdoing it, you're going to get
good.
So what I was when I was a kid,when I gave up at breaking, it
was too early.
Of course you're going to suck,you know, but you have to stick
with it and you're going to getbetter at things.
But you know, as a kid I waslike, oh man, I can't do it, you
know.
So it's like that mentality canfuck you up, so you have to
just be patient.
Um, but yeah, I was trying todo that.
(22:08):
And then I was trying to, ofcourse, and I tried rapping.
I was like, oh man, that'sgonna take centuries.
And then, um, what else isthere?
uh, uh, my father was a civilengineer so he would do a
carpentry work and um and thatthat kind of helped me make
stuff like I.
I became like an architect Iwould in in high school.
I became an architect becausethat's kind of helped me make
stuff Like I became like anarchitect In high school.
(22:30):
I became an architect becausethat's kind of like making stuff
and so that's how I drew theQFO and drew like certain
turntables we invented.
There was this one turntableeveryone uses.
Now it's two turntables and amixer all in one right.
It's called a controller.
Whatever, everyone uses it now.
That was one of the firstthings I drew, and I drew that
(22:52):
to Vestax.
It was called the Warlord.
Now everybody uses controllers.
Oh shit.
So as a kid I was into drawingall these DJ setups and stuff
and I had my drafting table andall that.
I was going to be an architectand then I was a telemarketer
(23:16):
too.
So I would call people on thephone and I would get the
highest in the whole office.
As a kid, at 14 years old, Iwould get the highest people
that would call back what do youcall it?
People that would like.
If I called them and I wouldtell them to watch a certain TV
show, and we'll call them backthe next day and ask them how it
was.
I got the longest list ofpeople that would agree to it.
(23:38):
And then I learned in that classto just keep it simple, because
they gave me a piece of paperand you have to read off the
paper like hello, my name isblah blah, blah, boom, boom,
boom.
And I was like what the fuck,just talk to them.
So I'd say hey.
And you had to read off thepaper Like hello, my name is
blah blah, blah, boom, boom,boom, boom, boom, da, da, da, da
, da.
And I was like what the fuck,just talk to them.
So I'd say hey, what's up?
Hey, we got a TV show coming on.
I want you to check it out.
I'll call you back tomorrow andthey were like yeah, no problem
.
It was that Whenever there's ascript, make up your own fucking
(24:05):
script.
Oh, definitely yeah.
I guess that's all I really wasdoing as a kid and then I didn't
know anything aboutspirituality or anything.
So as a kid, if you have a lotof energy of creativity, that
can also go into the negativeworld.
So I was a lot of vandal andjust doing negative stuff.
(24:26):
But then when you learn aboutspirituality, you turn that
negative energy into creativitythat help people.
So I didn't find out untillater about the rest of it.
Now I can keep going.
That's.
That's a big question oh no,that dude.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
By all means, man, elaborate on that shit.
So, uh, your parents, like theywere all, like they're all
supportive of you, you know,like following your dream?
Or were they like, hey, rich,it's time to get that job, you
know, be a nurse, or whatnot?
Like were they?
Were they always supportive?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
they had your back and everything exactly what you
just did right now, without thedance but yeah, okay, so they
pushed you yeah of course, yeah,yeah, why don't you be an
adopter?
I was like fuck all that shitand um yeah you know, of course
you're, they're gonna be,they're still stuck in the
matrix.
The matrix is what the um, youknow, our planet has put upon us
(25:22):
to keep us in this box, and so,um, I was more of an
out-of-the-box thinker.
So when I discovered DJing, Iwas like, oh fuck, do you want
to do?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
that.
How do I turn this into a?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I just On accident I was like how do I turn this into
a job?
Because I really don't want aregular freaking 9-to-5 job.
So I so I was like fuck it, letme just make a mixtape or
something and see if I couldsell it.
And I'm just gonna do my bestand make the the best mixtape I
could and then, for some reasonin the back of my head as I was
making that mixtape, I was likeI'm gonna try to do my best to
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make this a masterpiece.
And then that became umDemolition, pumpkin Squeeze, and
in this this one hip-hopmagazine said it was the world
all-time best hip-hop mix hit ofall time.
I was like fuck really but yeah.
So I started selling that andthere was like these hip-hop
stores they would buy it, andthey're like, I would just take
(26:21):
one or two, then I'll come backand sell it.
And they're like, oh yeah, letme get a few kept coming back
and oh let me get like 20 ofthem, I was like, oh shit, this
is kind of dope.
So I discovered at an early agelike, oh, I can be sell what I'm
doing, and so I started, youknow, selling other shit.
You know, let's make a record,and so we made, you know,
(26:42):
scratch records and, oh, let'sdo this, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah.
And then we started doing showsand I actually won the DMC
competition, the worldcompetition, with Mix Master,
Mike and Apollo, and that justblew everything up from there.
But you know, I can keep goingon.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh dude, by all means Dude, ramble on dude.
This is the platform to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It was more like a how do you call it?
When the student is ready, ateacher will appear.
It's a very spiritual thing Ifyou do your best and make
something pretty cool as best asyou can.
Something will appear whereit's like.
For instance, I made my firstalbum and I was like okay, you
(27:29):
know, what would be really coolis if I made my album not just a
regular album, but every songis a chapter in a story.
Then, as I was making the album, I was like what if I made
every song have a video?
You know, because videos wouldbe better, because you could see
everything.
And then what if it was acartoon?
Because there's a lot of B-boycharacters, a lot of graffiti,
(27:52):
b-boy characters on the street,and I was like, fuck, how come
they don't animate thesecharacters were so fucking dope,
like Doug, one would draw theseweird space characters
everywhere.
I'm like, fuck, how do weanimate that and put that in a
movie?
And then I don't know where,this guy that animates stuff
rings the doorbell and was likehey, are you Qbert?
I would like to have some musicfor my animation shit.
I'm looking for an animator.
It was like the weirdest shit.
(28:13):
So everything falls into placeif you just keep, if you keep
moving forward, um, and if youhave a dream of something
amazing, it always becomes moreamazing than you expected.
It's like it's like God willplant seeds in your head and if
you follow that, it'll be betterthan what you expected.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I don't know, oh, please, no, I feel you.
They call it manifesting.
Now I hear my wife and I hearmy older kids saying oh, I'm
manifesting, going on a cruise.
I'm like manifesting.
Is that like you're trying totell the world so it could
happen?
Is that, is that how you'retrying?
I mean, that's, that's what I'mgetting from you, like that's
how you're explaining it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you usually talk to god and not
really tell the world, like tellthem after, when it comes out,
you know oh hey, definitely,definitely, definitely, man
definitely I'm gonna do this,I'm gonna do that, you know
sometimes it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And then it doesn't happen, right, you're just like
oh you lazy, fuck, I try to be.
What do you call it?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
a little humble, I'm guilty of it.
I tell people we're coming outwith this, coming out with that.
But yeah, you know, it justdoesn they're like, where's it
at, where's it?
I thought you're gonna come outwith it.
I'm like fuck man.
So sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's nice to um work in the background and when it's
yeah, all when it's like rightabout super duper ready, then
you can kind of start showing it, I guess I don't know I don't
listen to me, but no, I don'tknow, I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Hey, motherfuckers not listening, bro,
motherfuckers not listening,tell god what I want to do.
And and the best too is is itwas when you meditate.
So an easy way to meditate isright before you go to sleep.
You're already kind of likehalf asleep, half awake, right
there right when yeah we go tosleep.
You could tell your dreams orask God like please help me out,
ask your angels like give me,give me, uh, give me some ideas
(30:00):
of what I should work on, orgive me a solution to this um
problem or or whatever, and thenyou can dream about it and the
answer comes into the dream.
All the time it always works,and then right when you wake up,
don't pick up your phone andshit, Just be like you're also
in that half asleep, half awake.
So you can be right awake, rightthere, and be like, oh, you're
connected to the dream world,you're connected to the universe
(30:21):
, you're connected to God, rightthere.
It's a lot easier because thenyou can see all these weird,
like infinite, uh weird dreamsthat that you can be aware of,
and you can morph it and be like, oh yeah, that's cool.
I like that little melody that'shappening in that, that song
I'm hearing in my head littlethings like that, and then then,
then I'll get up, but, um,that's a great way to um, to uh,
(30:44):
do the the manifesting thing,oh shit.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
While you were going through this journey, can you
tell me about the time where youalmost did you ever almost stop
DJing because you're like, damn, things aren't really going my
way or I actually hit rockbottom, or whatever?
I'm not trying to do this again.
Do you have a time or would youlike to share?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
if that happened, a million times like that and and
it always taught me.
It always taught me to Get backon the tightrope.
So when you're on the tightropeyou're walking whatever.
And then you know I'm gonnafucking fear off or whatever.
If you're just walking, you'rejust walking on the street.
If you trip, oh shit, you'renot gonna be like I fell down.
When you're just walking on thestreet.
If you trip, oh shit, you'renot going to be like I fell down
(31:29):
, it's like just walk up and go,keep going man you know, yeah,
yeah.
So see, it's two things You'reeither a pussy or you're a
fucking.
You know you're a champ.
So, pick one.
So the best way, another way tomanifest, is to keep telling
yourself I'm a champ, I'm achamp, and over all day, and so
every movement you do ischampion material.
(31:50):
But if you're like, oh man, Idon't see any result, you know
that's you got to keep going.
As soon as you plant the seed,god is like okay, I got you.
You have to have faith.
You really, really really haveto have faith.
If you don't have faith, thenfuck it, don't worry about it.
But for this I'm talking topeople that that are like champs
all right, and everybody hereis a champ.
Everyone has a special gift tomake the world a better place so
(32:11):
as you're going through the day, just keep saying that to
yourself and you're going tostart going into this world of
championness, you know, becausethere's like this uh, there's
this thing I don't know if youknow about this this thing,
multi, multi versus, okay, yeah,the infinity of use in this
universe, I'll pick the one youwant to be in.
So it's like, whatever you tellyourself, you're gonna do that.
(32:33):
So so, yeah, if you just keepgoing and have patience, it's
like scratching right, if youscratch, good, just like when I
was breaking.
You know why, the first day Iwent to a breaking thing and I
sucked at it.
I don't like breaking.
You know, if I stuck with it, Iwould have been freaking pretty
dope.
Yeah, yeah, so think withstretching, you have to just
(32:55):
stick with it and after a whileyou know you'll be rewarded.
So it's patience, Patience andfaith, and so same with anything
.
Anything you do, it's not goingto be like oh yeah, I won the
lottery right there.
Yeah, you might, but obviouslywith art, you know, and to make
(33:20):
beauty it takes time, oh,definitely.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Definitely.
I like how you said that,because things doesn't happen
right away, and I love themetaphor that you were speaking
just a few seconds ago, becausewhen I started this crap or my
bad, this shit man, when Istarted this I didn't know where
it was going.
I just did it because to me,it's very therapeutic.
(33:46):
I like talking to people.
It gets my mind away fromwhat's happening in my real life
and I like taking a lot of tits, tits and pieces from other
people.
Yeah, I like this too, but Ilike the information and, um,
(34:07):
like, just keep on going with it.
God got you and stuff.
I love that message, bro.
I really do love that messagebecause I'm like I'm on this
thing and I'm like I didn't knowhow far it came from.
Like episode one, you feel me?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
yeah, yeah yeah, same with me, I keep on adding a
brick to the castle and it'slike, holy shit, look at all
these episodes, or look at allthe um like all the scratches.
I got on on my tiktok now andit's like it's really cool, it's
it's it's really interestingand yeah, you just got to keep
going.
Yeah, and then, at the sametime as you're going, you'll
(34:41):
start noticing whoa, I'mdeveloping my own style, because
at first you're gonna be like,yeah, whatever name people are
gonna be, do you sound like this, you sound like what's his name
?
Blah, blah, blah.
And it's like you know, that,that could frustrate some people
, like that's okay.
But then if you just keep goingcourses, you know, like when
you're a kid you start, youstart copying your parents, your
whatever your brother's sister,whatever the way they, the way
(35:01):
they act, you know, I mean, andOf course, when you're a kid you
start copying your parents,your brothers, sisters, whatever
the way they act, and then youstart getting their mannerisms.
But as you get older, youdevelop your own personality.
So same with your art andwhatever you're doing, so don't
get frustrated off those littlethings.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Bro.
Facts man Straight up facts.
Thank you for the encouragementof words for the people that's
listening and maybe watching.
So thank you so much.
Question do you and the boysstill session together or are
you guys like different parts ofthe world now?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, but at the same time there's the internet, like
you said.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,true facts.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Scratch on this beat, but then when we have to
practice, then D-Styles andShortcut the same time.
There's you know, there's aninternet, like you said.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, true, facts scratch on
this beat.
But then when we have topractice, then d styles and
shortcut would come out to theoctagon.
Also, d styles has his ownoctagon.
I think we go out there andpractice and um, or when we do
shows we'll.
We'll get together a day, a dayor two before practice in like
a space uh-huh speaking of wehave Scratch Peoples album about
(36:01):
to come out.
I think we're at 90% done, solook out for that.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh shit, okay, okay.
Hey, that's what's up With thewhole.
I'm going to bring it back.
The whole octagon thing.
Is that what you came up withwhen you were 15, 16 year old,
or were you just like?
Did that come afterwards, likeyou?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
inventing this octagon.
I think I was 29 when that cameout and I needed, because we
would practice together at thehouse and we couldn't.
You know we were facing thewall, you know the tables and I
was like, oh shit, let's get atable where it's kind of like,
where we could all see eachother.
And so I told my dad was acivil engineer.
So we made this table.
(36:39):
It's this table right here.
actually it's the octagon, it's,it's, it's really a big ass,
square right, yeah, but butbecause I was into feng shui at
that time, the chinese peoplewas saying, if you, you have to
cut off the corners becausethey're too sharp, so it's like,
all right, I'll cut the cornersoff.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And it became an octagon that's all oh, okay, I
saw octagon because you hadeight turntables there, octopus,
eight legs.
I mean, that's what I?
That's what.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I thought, but so fucking practice tape when
someone came over like, oh shit,it's an octagon and I need to
trip up it.
Oh yeah, I guess yeah, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Um, alright, so we'll come into the.
We'll come to a little bit morelike you now, when you were
DJing at these parties, was iteasy to get a female on stage
with you?
Or like, hey, I want her, letme do my little thing.
I got her eye.
This and the third Was it easyor were you still having a
(37:40):
little bit of like?
Were you shy, having like withthe ladies and everything?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I wasn't even tripping off and I would just do
my thing.
And girls would come up to meand hey, hey, like, whatever you
need, I got you.
I'm like what, what?
The hell?
Man, it was just that was justa normal thing, for I would
never go out there and try toget a girl and stuff it was.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I never knew how to pick up on a girl.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I could never.
You know, some guys got thesesmooth waves.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
They got that game right yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I never knew how to do that, I would just ask
them to perform and then theywould talk to me.
It was really weird.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Okay, how did you meet your missus?
If you don't mind me askingWell, I was into health.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I still am.
I'm into health and because Igot into a spiritual world where
I wanted to scratch and be onpoint for the rest of my life.
Because it's like you know,okay, I really love scratching
so much to the extent that I'mlike, okay, what if I could
scratch it 100?
Years old.
Let's see what happens.
How would you do that?
Well, obviously you're gonnahave to stay healthy, so I I got
(38:51):
into all this health stuff.
So I would always go to thisone health store in san
francisco called rainbow groceryand they would.
It would be like the only, themost big.
I mean there's so many now inSan Francisco, but back then it
was like that was the one andthen she would always work there
.
And that's when I tried to pickup on her.
I tried to pick up on a girl.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I couldn't do it, I tried.
That's not one time I tried man.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I could not do it.
I would try to pick up on her alot and I was the worst.
I could not do it.
I would try to pick up on her alot and I was the worst.
And then one day, one day whatdo you call it?
She had broke her finger and Iwas like what, okay, well, shit.
I came back the next day and Iwas like, hey, here's a little,
because I learned about, youknow, crystal healing and all
(39:36):
that stuff.
So I gave her, like I think,this tiger's eye crystal and
said, hey, I crystal and say,hey, this is, this is gonna be
good for your arm, the heal,your your finger, or whatever I
think she had.
She closed up the store and Ithink the game had smashed her
hand, like, yeah, yeah, thething I said, well, this will
help your bone grow or whatever,fucking fix you.
Yeah, that's you know.
(39:57):
She was like, hey, we gottahang out.
And I'm like what became mygirl?
That's me to this day?
Is I over?
I think over 12 years?
We didn't give it up.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Wow, that's a happening.
That head that's rapping.
That's how I happen rich gotthat feng shui game.
Hey, hey, I got this crystalGirl.
This is supposed to heal yourfinger, this is from me to you.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, my man, this is a piece of charcoal.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I found on the ground Right, and you just said, hey,
man, it's a crystal, here you goI'm kidding, here you go With
your girl, right, does she?
Was there any problems of likeyou going to like a lot on these
shows and everything Like oh,honey, I want you, you know, I
want you here more often whenyou're doing these shows or
(40:51):
going out of countries and stuff?
Did that ever become a problemwith you, with you know, with
you and the missus?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No, no, of course.
Obviously that would be likeget the hell out of here.
It was like, yeah, my girlsupports me a thousand percent.
It's amazing.
Anything I like.
She cooks us food.
She takes care of my mom mymom's very healthy.
She takes care of her.
She's just amazing.
Everything freaking that I needto be done where I can scratch
(41:19):
more, she does it, justeverything.
I'm like, hey, don't even takeout the garbage.
I don't want her to take out thegarbage.
She takes the garbage out, shecleans, she cooks the healthiest
meals.
We don't have to go out.
It's like man.
Her food tastes better than thefreaking restaurants.
The desserts are amazing andthey're healthy too.
I'm even drinking thischocolate smoothie right now
(41:40):
because I just woke up.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
You just woke up.
Wait what 3.30?
Okay, 2.30.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
2.30.
So what I do is I it's 2.30right now.
Yeah, I'll go to sleep Well,not now, but we got on the
podcast but yeah, I usuallysleep at 5 am and wake up at 1.
Sometimes I'll sleep at 6 andwake up at 2, but I work all
night making all this stuff.
I make beans and all this stuff.
(42:06):
But oh, I would with everythingthat is crazy.
And she even takes care of like, okay, you know, you gotta um
make sure you get your sunlight,gotta go walk dog blah blah.
He's the most amazing girl tome in my life.
It's nuts.
I can't believe how blessed Iam.
Hey, dude, go check her out onMusician Nutrition on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
She's trying to start a whole thing called Musician
Nutrition.
Musician Transition.
Musician Nutrition, musician,nutrition.
Try saying that five times fast.
Hey, no, hey, that's what's up.
Man, I do love hearing you knowlike the spouse being really
supportive in what you're doing,like there's no, um, there's no
(42:53):
, like inklings in her mindsaying, oh man, he's just out,
you know goofing off.
It's's like no, you're actuallyworking, you're actually doing
what you love.
And I do like I do respect thewomen that understands that
about a man.
And the only reason why I saythat is because my wife, she
supports me in doing this Fromthe very beginning, like she was
(43:16):
kind of iffy because I wouldhave, you know, I would have
models and, you know, pageantpeople on here, and because I
would have models and pageantpeople on here, and then I would
have to reassure her that I waslike yo man, it's strictly
business, it's all professional.
I'm not trying to get my peenwet, I'm not trying to jump in
the panties or anything, it'sjust, at the end of the day, I'm
coming home to you, I'm cominghome to the family, I'm not
(43:37):
messing around, I'm just, youknow, I'm just liking to talk to
people and that's about it.
So I do respect the women thatyou know that have that level
head is just, you know, stilltaking care of the man and
saying, hey, this is what helooked to do, got to support him
, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, it's really important.
I Think that's the first thing.
If a girl can't support you,are you Canadian by any chance?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
No, I just say aboot a lot.
Okay, I've been saying that,dude, I'd be getting in trouble,
but I've been saying this eversince I was in the A7th grade.
Aboot, but it's only when I'mnot reading something.
When I'm reading, I'm notreading something, like when I'm
reading I'm announcing, prettycorrectly, but when I'm just
speaking it comes out like thatand I kind of hate it.
(44:29):
I'm trying to get out of it.
But sometimes it slips.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Thank you, it slips sometimes and I'm just like oh
shit, you know I have a lot ofCanadian friends and they say
that oh, yeah, hey yeah, likethere's this roundabout that you
have to drive around and theygo oh, go here, go around this
roundabout but what was the lastplace that you traveled to,
(44:54):
like out of state?
Man, china.
Where was that France?
Um, oh, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Was this recent too?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, what was I?
You know what?
It's a blur.
Right now I have to check myschedule.
I want to go to Mexico in acouple weeks.
Where is this now?
I think someone was sayingthey're're gonna bring us to
india soon.
I think also because we got theinvisible scratch pickles album
too.
So we're yeah trying to knockthat out, then we're gonna.
(45:28):
I would go like all over theworld hey, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
So, as a traveling dj , right, like, what are you
bringing with you?
If you don't mind me asking,like what goes in your backpack,
your luggage?
Like, are you bringing likeextra faders, extra needles?
Like what's what goes in thetraveling pack?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
well, depends how many days are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
oh shit.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Um, let's say, you're two weeks, you're on the road
for two weeks okay, we got tomake sure that that place,
wherever you're going to, haslaundry service or you can buy
that's like that's.
If it's for every week, yougotta have whatever seven socks
and seven.
Yeah, that's the thing, right,because you you want fresh stuff
(46:10):
and then um yeah you know yougotta wear the same pants every
day.
You want to carry too many pantsand um shirts are cool because
they're smaller, so you can justkind of scrunch them in there.
That's a week, right.
So now you have to figure outis these places you're going to
go to, going to have laundryservice?
Because if they don't havelaundry service, you're gonna
have to buy extra underwear orbring more underwear and things
(46:32):
like that, socks bring soap andwash it like this.
You know, yeah, I mean, thesoap is like, it's just this
much, it's like this whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I use it to soap people.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Dr Bronner, have you ever heard of that?
Yeah, I've heard of that.
Yeah, I discovered that inHawaii.
Actually, that was a goodlittle soap.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Uh-huh, I mean, you know that's a big question
You're asking me like fuck man,yeah, definitely extra needles
because the needles can break.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Okay.
Okay, the X-Records, that's agood one.
I like to bring a lot of stuffbecause when I get to the shows,
I like to throw some body tothe show, Okay okay, okay, okay,
that kind of stuff.
You know another guy that Iknew was DJ Scratch from EPMD,
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
EPMD boy Okay, he would take a duffle bag of
clothes and every day he woulduse his shirt.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
He would be a boy, okay he duffel bag of clothes
and every day he would use hisshirt.
He would have his dirty laundry.
You throw it in audience.
Who wants a shirt?
Never go crazy.
Yeah, we want a shirt, but itwas just really his laundry that
he was throwing out.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It was amazing he was like a lot in my pack.
Y'all, I'm fitting to throw myunderwear and my socks out.
Y'all Remember that.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That was a great way to lighten the load as the tour
went on.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Oh, hell, yeah.
So I've got this questionbecause back in the day, dude, I
used to have a lot of yourposters and your T-shirts, right
, dj Esco?
What happened to that?
If you don't, dj Esco, whathappened to that?
If you don't mind me askingwhat happened to that brand,
because I still have that shirt,I still have, you know, my
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giant colored shirt, and I hadthis blue one of you on it too.
It said DJ Esco, what happenedto that brand?
Because I can't find itanywhere.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Or people can't find it.
We looked at thousands andthousands of brands.
What to that brand?
Because I can't find itanywhere or people can't find it
thousands and thousands ofbrand.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
What happened to them ?
Yeah, I have fucking.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Oh shit, okay, so you know, you have no idea either I
just did the thing and I'm onto back to making music.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
So I don't know, I hope I made there's something
yeah, okay, okay, well, shitrich dude From me to you, man.
Thank you for coming on, broman.
I do appreciate you so, so muchFor like making my little
dreams come true and forchopping it up with me, man.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Thank you, bro, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Hey, no problem, do you have any shout outs or
anything?
Or you know where can thesepeople Motherfucking find you at
?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Just go on djkubertcom.
We have a lot of new products.
Every week.
We have almost every week.
We have new stuff like thoselimited edition Slipmats.
We have this new record thatjust came out.
Speaking of the portable stuff,you know how.
They're like seven-inch records.
Yeah, have you ever triedstretching those little
seven-inch records?
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Dude my, oh, yeah, yeah, I tried scratching those
little 7-inch records.
Dude my yeah yeah, I tried.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, yeah, they're so fucking small.
So I was like, oh fuck, let'sjust give it an extra inch.
So, like, going back to thebeginning of the show, yes,
every inch counts.
So now we got this new recordcalled the Super Seal 8-incher
and it's fucking.
It fucking feels good, becausenow you can put your whole
fucking hand on it.
Because you can only scratchwith your fingertips.
I'm like what the fuck?
So now you can put your wholepaw on it and it feels amazing.
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That shit sold out in like aweek, and so I was like, oh man,
so now, well, not oh man, I'mlike, actually I'm so happy, but
we made a part two.
I said now it's a scratchy seal8.2 incher.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
So it's a scratchy seal, 8.2 incher 8.2 incher.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
huh, I said about less than a month it should come
out, so stay tuned to myInstagram.
I can get people and all that.
Youtube, youtubecom, slashbedromo, and yes, that will be
coming out.
I think we might even reprintthe first one because it's super
dope.
Look out for that.
Yes, hey, that'll be coming out.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I think we might even repress the first one, because
it's super dope.
Look out for that.
Yes, hey, that's what's up.
Hopefully I catch you in Hawaii.
Man, honolulu, I'm a mamero,hey.
With that being said, man KOStudio, thank you for the lovely
home.
Rafi Byte, thank you for thelovely beat and with that, I'm
Chris.
It's your line, bro.
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I'm Q, I'm Rich, oh okay,what's up?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I'm Qbert.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
This is my welcome pause and we out this bitch
Peace.
Hey, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Relationship Method
Podcast.
I'm Chris.
Today I have an awesome,awesome guest for y'all.
I grew up watching this guy onDVD man, one of my inspirations
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on how I started scratching man.
I'm not even going to waste anymore time on his introduction
because he can speak on himself.
Man, I got DJ Q Burt on the pod.
What's up?
Yay?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
What up, what up, what up.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What up my man?
What up my man.
And before we get this shitpopping, sir, how did I get the
yes from you to come on?
You know my little, you know mylittle podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Um, you know, I don't know, it's just kinda I seen
you, seen you was from Hawaii.
I was like ah shit, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Hey, okay, it's just the Hawaii vibes.
Huh, yes, yes, yes, hey, bro,that's what's up.
And then, where are you atright now?
Like, where parts of the worldare you at right now?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'm in the Bay Area near San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Hey, okay, okay, growing up, I did spend a lot of
time up in Frisco.
I grew up in Monterey, theMonterey Bay area, the A31 area,
so just two hours away fromy'all.
It's beautiful, beautiful,beautiful.
Oh, definitely beautiful,definitely beautiful.
And, bro, let me ask you We'llget into these questions because
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you don't need.
No, we're not going to go intoyour background, robert, because
these motherfuckers shouldalready know who the fuck you
are.
Um, uh, hip-hop nowadays, right, how do you like the direction
on?
You know where it's headedright now well, it's not headed
in one direction.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's going like this, it's like a freaking, it's
going like this all kinds ofdirections.
So now, now you're gonna startpicking like, okay, I like that
direction, I like this direction, it's like a freaking.
It's going like this all kindsof directions.
So now, now you're gonna startpicking, like, okay, I like that
direction, I like thisdirection.
It's not just one direction, sothey just want to make that
like that clear.
But, um, I'm, and with that, Ilove, you know, like hardcore
break dancing I love, I loveb-boying, I love like super
crazy popping, I love, um, youknow, the graffiti's advancing
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too.
Even in that, the wholegraffiti world it's like going
in different directions.
The whole graffiti world, it'slike going in different
directions.
The whole dancing world isgoing in different directions.
The music is going in differentdirections.
So I like to just kind of like,I like the raw beats when it
comes to hip hop.
So you know, oh, oh, you know,I call it a acquired taste for
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certain types of drums that Ilike.
Well, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh, okay, so were you five elements of hip-hop right?
Were you ever a B-boy beforeyou started scratching, or you
caught on to scratching beforeyou started B-boying?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh yeah, I was a B-boy and all that.
And then I would go out incircles and get my ass whooped
and I'm like, okay, I think I'lltry DJing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, okay.
Were you the type of kids thatwould bring linoleum or
cardboard around too?
Because that's what we did.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We would just go to a place they had like a
children's center, like a whatdo you call it A place for kids
to go to just practicebreakdancing and all that.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, hell, no, everybody was super good and I
was like I forget this, bro, letme.
Let me tell you that, like backin the day, it was all about
power moves right and not style.
So that stuff evolved, andthat's, I think, when style
started coming in.
That's when I took a backseatand I was like, oh no, I cannot
do this stuff anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I mean, that's the same with DJing.
Right, you got the guys thatare doing the power moves, which
are crazy and stuff, butthey're not rhyming or there's
nothing poetic about thescratching.
So, once again, movement tostyle.
Style always beats technicalityand all that?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely Like the
flow of the scratch, am Icorrect?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Sure the poetry, like if you're rhyming like a great
MC, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Dude, so let me kick.
Could I ask you like, when didyou started because of course
you had to learn the basicscratches right when did you
started Making it, making itinto like some some of language,
to where you know the questionand answer thing, where you were
just not even like the?
You know the power moves of thescratch but the flow of the
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scratch?
When did you started likethinking, oh man, I could just
do this as a melody and not justkill them with you know a
triple click player or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Probably, like, I guess, in the 90s.
I mean, it was in the back ofmy head, so I was doing it in
the back of my head, but thenwhen I realized it, like, oh
wait, you got to make yourscratches rhyme.
Yeah, probably in the 90s.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, and was this in your garage?
Or were you just messing withyou and your homies in the sesh?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I was just feeling it .
I think I was at a club and Iwas like saying something in my
head like a scratch, and I waslike, oh shit, it's like it's
rhyming.
So like usually, you know,normally the ends of the scratch
would rhyme.
Like if you, you know, yousimply just go and you just keep
repeating that that becomes arhyme, like see how all that
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whole shit rhymes.
And I wasn't even doinganything complicated.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Ooh bro, I hope everyone's taking notes, because
these are gems you're dropping,bro, and they're simple gems.
It's simple math, like stupid.
Keep it simple, stupid, rightKiss.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, for sure.
And then there's different likerhythms I didn't know about
rhythms when I was, when I wasdj, I was just making all these
patterns and I was like I didn'tknow that it was divisions of
numbers so music is just mathright one, two, three, four, one
two, three, four, five, one,two, three, four, five, one, two
, three, one, two, three, one,two, three, five, seven, one,
two, three, five, seven, one,two, three five, seven, so it's
all was like oh shit it's justfucking numbers.
(06:04):
So you start putting all thesenumbers together with the rhymes
and it was like, oh fuck that'show you make patterns, because
I was just thinking, oh, that'sa cool pattern.
I want to listen to jazzmusicians to learn all these
patterns.
But I didn't know, it was justall math.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Bro, that's crazy that you said that, because me
and the kids in the Y we watchedPiece by Piece by Pharrell last
night Shout out to Peacock andhe says that he sees music in
colors and in waves and stuff.
Is that how you see your art?
Do you see it like in colors ordo you just hear like snares,
beats and drums and that's howyou come up with masterpieces.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh yeah, it's like, besides the math part, then you
get into all this other.
You know, like the colors, andyou can see everything and the
emotions, and all the way up tobeing spiritual and healing
people with your music.
It's so many different levelsall intertwined into one
beautiful thing you're trying toput into the universe.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh yeah, oh, definitely, definitely.
And dude, how did you get thename Q-Bert?
I know the origin, but peoplethat don't know you like, how
did you get it?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I just did a video game.
My last name started with a Qand then people just started
calling me Q-Bert.
It was like silly, and then itjust you know, was like dang,
you know I wish I knew about.
You know, like, um, you eversee dc comics, they have a dc
universe and all the charactersin there.
I wish I knew about that I canread all the characters names
and go into the marvel universeand put that together and make
up a really cool name, becausethey got the best names of
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superhero characters oh my gosh,right, I mean like the original
, like I don't even want to sayit's boring, but you know, like,
say, in Marvel, you got MarvelGirl.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean super simple, but goddamn, that kind of it
hits.
You feel me.
And then like, let's say, inthe DC world, batman, I mean
that shit hits and it's justBatman, you know.
So, like I'll be feeling thatshit, I'll be feeling that shit.
And um, oh, one more thing isuh, like social media nowadays,
(08:15):
right, well, when I was watchingyou, it was all on.
It was all on like tapes andstuff, like we didn't have the
internet.
So it would like a bootlegbecome another bootleg, become a
new bootleg, and then I wouldlike me and my boys would get
the tapes of you.
Do you think like social mediaif you had it back in the day,
you know when you were with youknow Scratchin' with the Boys?
(08:38):
Do you think it would have beenlike more worldwide now,
because I mean, your name islike pretty world known?
Do you think it would like blowup?
And were you ready and expect?
Like, did you know you weregoing to blow up the way you
were?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Well, it's weird because right when we started,
the crew Invisible Scratchbecause it was like 1987,
whatever 86?
.
Yeah.
Was it no?
No, no, sorry.
97, the internet was alreadythere, so it was like okay,
let's take advantage of thisthing, whatever it is.
So it was kind of already therewhen the cruise started and,
but we started in the 80s, inthe late uh, 85, whatever and it
(09:21):
was yeah, you're right aroundthat time.
It was just VHS.
Yeah, that's how we.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Caught on to y'all Because we saw this bootleg
video and, mind you, you know,like the old school VCRs where
you had to do the trackings andstuff, and they'll be all
blurred and distorted.
That's how me and my Friendswatched you when you went up
Against the Executioners, theX-Men.
And when you went up, uh, whenyou went up against, uh, the
executioners, the x-men, and, um, when you had that little, that
(09:49):
battle with you, uh, mix and um, yoga, wait, was it yoga frog?
Yeah, oh, shortcut, yeah, whenyou were just battling, that's
the first time that we ever sawthat.
We're just like what the fuckis this so?
So that's when we startedscratching and we're just like,
oh, and then your DVDs, yourself-taught DVDs, came out.
(10:09):
So your shit was just like onrepeat for us for like the
longest time Because, dude, likewe would never know where you
would.
You know where you guys wouldbe at, like we would know One of
my boys knew where you guyslived or what city y'all lived
in, but we just didn't know,like, what spots y'all would be
at, because you know, we're sofar away from y'all so we don't
(10:32):
know how those tapes would comearound us.
But yeah, man, it was apleasure and it was like
enjoyable just to watch y'all doy'all thing.
Thank you, oh, you're verywelcome.
All right, so let's see here,here we go.
Here's one from one of mylisteners how did you come up
with your titles for yourrecords and shit Like Toasted,
(10:53):
marshmallow Breaks and BionicBoogers?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, you know, we had a crew of funny guys.
Dj Disq was in the crew backthen.
He was a funny guy.
There was people in other crewstoo Eddie Depp and EJ Quest.
They were in a crew calledBulletproof Scratch Hamsters and
just, we had a bunch of, likeyou know, comedians in our group
, and the more stupid the name,the better you know, such as
Invisible Scratch Pills.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh man, that's crazy because, like, I try to come up
with stuff too.
I call my little one and afemale.
That's sweet.
I would call them sugar booger,because sugar as in sweet
booger, because I'd pick themfirst.
You know what I'm saying.
But that's crazy.
With all these records, how didScratchy Seal ever came up?
(11:40):
Were you high one day, drunkone day?
We're like you know what.
We're going to have a seal asone of our icons, like one of
our symbols and like what?
Like?
Were you high one day, drunkone day?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
we're like you know what we finna have like a seal
as our as like as one of ouricons, like one of our symbols.
And I think, uh, me and me andyoga frog were at uh um in japan
one time and there was a, apuppet stand and they had like a
seal and I grabbed it and Istarted talking with it and then
he filmed me and that was it.
We're like, fucking, we'regonna buy this shit, so stupid
bro, that's such a simple originstory, right?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I just picked it up, started talking to it scratch,
you know, seal, scratch, seal,fuck it'll SS, you know I'm
saying, yeah, then mix match.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
The mic would always have the um the titles with the
same letters.
Like Mix Master, mike, you knowScratch the Seal.
Bionic, booker, briggs, andthen.
So from there, everything waslike the same lettered words and
stuff, like a lot of the titlesNot all of them, but a lot of
them, because it sounds funnier.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh shit, I love those man, I love those.
Let's see.
Oh okay, here's another one.
How do you see culture ofscratching these days without
vinyl and everything digital?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, not everything is digital, but yeah, there's a
lot of that.
I think it's beautiful.
You don't have to carry allyour records and all that.
And then we make these recordstoo, where we work with digital
companies, where one side isdigital and the other side is
analog, so it's both worlds inone now.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So it's really convenient.
Yeah, did you have a hard timeadjusting to, like, say, the
digital opposed to vinyl,because I love vinyl.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I can't see myself scratching on what I tried and
it just sounded so funky, man.
Yeah, I mean, there's vinyl,which is the most accurate, of
course.
So you can't get away from itbecause for scratching it's the
most accurate.
But then digital, you've gotTractor DJI Pro Serato.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Phase.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You have all these other different levels.
And after the ones that I justmentioned, I think, um, there's
another one I forgot the name ofit but, um, those are pretty
much the most accurate, forthat's closest to vinyl.
But everything under that I'vetested I'm like, oh man, it's
like it's not as accurate, butin the beginning it really
wasn't accurate, but now,because technology keeps
advancing, it's pretty close tovinyl.
(14:04):
But oh but nothing can't bevinyl.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean like you can't.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Like you know, I'm not gonna carry all my creative
records, so yes, that's theadvantage of course, but with
scratching you have to.
I mean, you know, I love thatthat little extra.
You know know um accuracy, butfor a normal scratcher that
doesn't do all the wild that wedo they probably wouldn't notice
that without, without anytechnology huh interesting,
(14:38):
they're just doing some basicfit whatever.
But if I'm doing like if Igotta do that, oh man, I I love
vinyl.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Mm.
Hey, facts, facts.
Oh, you know what?
Out of curiosity, how manyneedles have you thrashed
throughout your lifetime?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I can't even count that.
That's a great question.
I never counted it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Okay, here's another one With me.
No, no, oh, what advice can yougive turntable-heads out there
on how to excel in their scratchvocabulary, like by themselves,
like they're not going toschool, or they're not going to
these workshops by themselves?
Do you have any tips on, let'ssay, a person that's just at
home just scratching?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
trying to make it.
I'm putting up this thing.
It's called a year inscratching.
Right now, a year in scratching.
So every day I'll put up a newtechnique.
And it's on a year inscratching right now, one year
in scratching.
So every day I'll put up a newtechnique.
And it's on.
It's on my tiktok uh, dj cuberone.
Because there's a bunch of djcubers on there.
So I had to, I had to fuckinggrab dj cuba one.
All these fake dj cubers, theyall have my picture of my face
on it oh yeah I love it, and orgo on youtube.
(15:44):
Youtubecom slash th Rumble andthen they can see the same cards
, or on my Instagram at DJ Qbert.
If you want to learn how toscratch and then if you want to
get really deep into it, watchWisdom of Wax on YouTubecom.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Oh bro, University of YouTube changed a lot of
people's lives.
I tell you that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I'm on number 143.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh, I love you too.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Number 143.
Just happened on youtubecomslash Fred Roman.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Hey, that's what's up , man.
I'll make sure to put in thatlink and all that shizazz man to
hook you up.
I haven't scratched with a lotof DJs out here in Hawaii yet.
I recently moved here in 2018.
So, it's like.
Colossus.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Paco.
I'll name off the guys Paco,colossus, dj, idea man, there's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
They're out here on Honolulu.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, deadfoot, who else is there Did?
I say Paco yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, well, shit, I'll gooff and stalk their Instagram.
Yeah, hang out with those guys.
Those are their homies.
When I lived out in Hawaii, Iwould practice with them at
Sandy's Beach all the time.
That's the time.
(17:07):
That's not that.
Why, you know?
You ever heard the QFO?
Yeah, the QFO is like the firstportable turntable.
It was invented because ofHawaii, because I would go to
Hawaii and I was scratching mycar and I'm like man.
These guys are playing, youknow, ukulele and guitar out
there and whatever at the beachand I'm'm like, damn, I need to
(17:28):
bring a turntable out here.
So that's why that QF wasinvented for portability.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No fucking way.
I always wondered how that cameabout.
I was going to ask you that howdid you come up with that
little, the small little turnwith the mixer, the fader on the
side, the origin of that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
and yo dude, thank you, man, because you came out
to hawaii yeah, I, I lived outthere, so like I want to
practice, so I would um I I wassponsored by vestex at the time,
before they yeah, yeah stoppedand I I drew a turntable with a
fader on it, and then they madeit.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Holy shit.
What do you miss about Hawaii,man?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know the weather and I love the nature, of course
.
I mean I go back and forth, butI'm actually going back there
soon.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh, for real Honolulu , or you going to the other
islands like Big Island, maui.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
My dad's from Big Island and my brother's out
there, so I might, I might goout there.
But all the islands I want tobe at, all of them I love.
I love the energy of everyisland.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's different oh, oh , definitely, definitely like uh
uh, honolulu is more fast-pacedcompared to, like, maui and
Island and Kauai and all thatstuff.
Like I told you, like earlier,I'm in the military and dude,
the dynamics of each island istotally different.
(18:58):
You got you know, like overhere it's like super fast-paced
and like it's a melting pot oflike a lot of you know, a lot of
religions and a lot of races,right, but then when you go to
these outer islands it's like,oh, it's all man, I feel like a
majority, you know,predominantly majority.
You know what I'm saying.
So yeah, but over here, man yeah, oh yeah, man and dude Filipino
(19:25):
.
Yeah, yeah, Filipino.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
My great-grandfather is part Turkish, of course
there's a Spanish from mymother's side, and then a little
bit Chinese.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh, my classmates are good, your Turkish side.
Have you ever visited Turkey?
Or you like, dwindled in?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
that type of I haven't.
Not deep, you know, maybe likea Turkish bazaar thing, but
nothing deep I want to go.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, hey, shoot, that should be on your bucket
list, my guy.
Oh yes, yes, all right, here'sanother cue.
Oh yeah, what keeps youmotivated in scratching?
Because I know you've beendoing this for like X amount of
years now, right?
What's keeping you going?
What's keeping that motor freshand so up to date with
(20:20):
everything?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, first of all, it's fun to me.
Second is knowing that it's aninfinity to me uh.
Second is like knowing thatit's an infinity and it's um,
it's kind of like like bruce lee, who loves you, know his
martial arts and he's just gonnanever stop.
There's something like thatwhere it's like it's like a
passion that that you're bornwith.
You know, yeah, you know,everyone should be following
their passions, of course, andof course it makes me happy
(20:43):
because, um, when I found outwhat the ultimate happiness is
is giving right.
So if I can give what I love todo at the same time, shit that's
even more happy.
So I feel at peace when I'm inmy element, doing the gifts of
what the universe gave me togive the rest of the world.
(21:04):
So everyone should be doingthat, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Oh, definitely, definitely.
And another caveat off thatquestion before scratching, what
were you doing?
Yeah, what were you doingbefore you started scratching
and stuff?
What was the origin of thatshit?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, I started when I was 15, so anything before
that was I was just findingmyself finding that I wasn't
good at breaking.
And then what else was there?
Graffiti, I was never good at,but I do have to tag my name.
You know, when I do like littleautographs and after a while I
deal with that and it was like Iguess, with anything you can't
(21:48):
give up.
If you suck at it, if you keepdoing it, you're going to get
good.
So what I was when I was a kid,when I gave up at breaking, it
was too early.
Of course you're going to suck,you know, but you have to stick
with it and you're going to getbetter at things.
But you know, as a kid I waslike, oh man, I can't do it, you
know.
So it's like that mentality canfuck you up, so you have to
just be patient.
Um, but yeah, I was trying todo that.
(22:08):
And then I was trying to, ofcourse, and I tried rapping.
I was like, oh man, that'sgonna take centuries.
And then, um, what else isthere?
uh, uh, my father was a civilengineer so he would do a
carpentry work and um and thatthat kind of helped me make
stuff like I.
I became like an architect Iwould in in high school.
I became an architect becausethat's kind of helped me make
stuff Like I became like anarchitect In high school.
(22:30):
I became an architect becausethat's kind of like making stuff
and so that's how I drew theQFO and drew like certain
turntables we invented.
There was this one turntableeveryone uses.
Now it's two turntables and amixer all in one right.
It's called a controller.
Whatever, everyone uses it now.
That was one of the firstthings I drew, and I drew that
(22:52):
to Vestax.
It was called the Warlord.
Now everybody uses controllers.
Oh shit.
So as a kid I was into drawingall these DJ setups and stuff
and I had my drafting table andall that.
I was going to be an architectand then I was a telemarketer
(23:16):
too.
So I would call people on thephone and I would get the
highest in the whole office.
As a kid, at 14 years old, Iwould get the highest people
that would call back what do youcall it?
People that would like.
If I called them and I wouldtell them to watch a certain TV
show, and we'll call them backthe next day and ask them how it
was.
I got the longest list ofpeople that would agree to it.
(23:38):
And then I learned in that classto just keep it simple, because
they gave me a piece of paperand you have to read off the
paper like hello, my name isblah blah, blah, boom, boom,
boom.
And I was like what the fuck,just talk to them.
So I'd say hey.
And you had to read off thepaper Like hello, my name is
blah blah, blah, boom, boom,boom, boom, boom, da, da, da, da
, da.
And I was like what the fuck,just talk to them.
So I'd say hey, what's up?
Hey, we got a TV show coming on.
I want you to check it out.
I'll call you back tomorrow andthey were like yeah, no problem
.
It was that Whenever there's ascript, make up your own fucking
(24:05):
script.
Oh, definitely yeah.
I guess that's all I really wasdoing as a kid and then I didn't
know anything aboutspirituality or anything.
So as a kid, if you have a lotof energy of creativity, that
can also go into the negativeworld.
So I was a lot of vandal andjust doing negative stuff.
(24:26):
But then when you learn aboutspirituality, you turn that
negative energy into creativitythat help people.
So I didn't find out untillater about the rest of it.
Now I can keep going.
That's.
That's a big question oh no,that dude.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
By all means, man, elaborate on that shit.
So, uh, your parents, like theywere all, like they're all
supportive of you, you know,like following your dream?
Or were they like, hey, rich,it's time to get that job, you
know, be a nurse, or whatnot?
Like were they?
Were they always supportive?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
they had your back and everything exactly what you
just did right now, without thedance but yeah, okay, so they
pushed you yeah of course, yeah,yeah, why don't you be an
adopter?
I was like fuck all that shitand um yeah you know, of course
you're, they're gonna be,they're still stuck in the
matrix.
The matrix is what the um, youknow, our planet has put upon us
(25:22):
to keep us in this box, and so,um, I was more of an
out-of-the-box thinker.
So when I discovered DJing, Iwas like, oh fuck, do you want
to do?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
that.
How do I turn this into a?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I just On accident I was like how do I turn this into
a job?
Because I really don't want aregular freaking 9-to-5 job.
So I so I was like fuck it, letme just make a mixtape or
something and see if I couldsell it.
And I'm just gonna do my bestand make the the best mixtape I
could and then, for some reasonin the back of my head as I was
making that mixtape, I was likeI'm gonna try to do my best to
(26:00):
make this a masterpiece.
And then that became umDemolition, pumpkin Squeeze, and
in this this one hip-hopmagazine said it was the world
all-time best hip-hop mix hit ofall time.
I was like fuck really but yeah.
So I started selling that andthere was like these hip-hop
stores they would buy it, andthey're like, I would just take
(26:21):
one or two, then I'll come backand sell it.
And they're like, oh yeah, letme get a few kept coming back
and oh let me get like 20 ofthem, I was like, oh shit, this
is kind of dope.
So I discovered at an early agelike, oh, I can be sell what I'm
doing, and so I started, youknow, selling other shit.
You know, let's make a record,and so we made, you know,
(26:42):
scratch records and, oh, let'sdo this, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah.
And then we started doing showsand I actually won the DMC
competition, the worldcompetition, with Mix Master,
Mike and Apollo, and that justblew everything up from there.
But you know, I can keep goingon.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh dude, by all means Dude, ramble on dude.
This is the platform to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It was more like a how do you call it?
When the student is ready, ateacher will appear.
It's a very spiritual thing Ifyou do your best and make
something pretty cool as best asyou can.
Something will appear whereit's like.
For instance, I made my firstalbum and I was like okay, you
(27:29):
know, what would be really coolis if I made my album not just a
regular album, but every songis a chapter in a story.
Then, as I was making the album, I was like what if I made
every song have a video?
You know, because videos wouldbe better, because you could see
everything.
And then what if it was acartoon?
Because there's a lot of B-boycharacters, a lot of graffiti,
(27:52):
b-boy characters on the street,and I was like, fuck, how come
they don't animate thesecharacters were so fucking dope,
like Doug, one would draw theseweird space characters
everywhere.
I'm like, fuck, how do weanimate that and put that in a
movie?
And then I don't know where,this guy that animates stuff
rings the doorbell and was likehey, are you Qbert?
I would like to have some musicfor my animation shit.
I'm looking for an animator.
It was like the weirdest shit.
(28:13):
So everything falls into placeif you just keep, if you keep
moving forward, um, and if youhave a dream of something
amazing, it always becomes moreamazing than you expected.
It's like it's like God willplant seeds in your head and if
you follow that, it'll be betterthan what you expected.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I don't know, oh, please, no, I feel you.
They call it manifesting.
Now I hear my wife and I hearmy older kids saying oh, I'm
manifesting, going on a cruise.
I'm like manifesting.
Is that like you're trying totell the world so it could
happen?
Is that, is that how you'retrying?
I mean, that's, that's what I'mgetting from you, like that's
how you're explaining it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you usually talk to god and not
really tell the world, like tellthem after, when it comes out,
you know oh hey, definitely,definitely, definitely, man
definitely I'm gonna do this,I'm gonna do that, you know
sometimes it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And then it doesn't happen, right, you're just like
oh you lazy, fuck, I try to be.
What do you call it?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
a little humble, I'm guilty of it.
I tell people we're coming outwith this, coming out with that.
But yeah, you know, it justdoesn they're like, where's it
at, where's it?
I thought you're gonna come outwith it.
I'm like fuck man.
So sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's nice to um work in the background and when it's
yeah, all when it's like rightabout super duper ready, then
you can kind of start showing it, I guess I don't know I don't
listen to me, but no, I don'tknow, I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Hey, motherfuckers not listening, bro,
motherfuckers not listening,tell god what I want to do.
And and the best too is is itwas when you meditate.
So an easy way to meditate isright before you go to sleep.
You're already kind of likehalf asleep, half awake, right
there right when yeah we go tosleep.
You could tell your dreams orask God like please help me out,
ask your angels like give me,give me, uh, give me some ideas
(30:00):
of what I should work on, orgive me a solution to this um
problem or or whatever, and thenyou can dream about it and the
answer comes into the dream.
All the time it always works,and then right when you wake up,
don't pick up your phone andshit, Just be like you're also
in that half asleep, half awake.
So you can be right awake, rightthere, and be like, oh, you're
connected to the dream world,you're connected to the universe
(30:21):
, you're connected to God, rightthere.
It's a lot easier because thenyou can see all these weird,
like infinite, uh weird dreamsthat that you can be aware of,
and you can morph it and be like, oh yeah, that's cool.
I like that little melody that'shappening in that, that song
I'm hearing in my head littlethings like that, and then then,
then I'll get up, but, um,that's a great way to um, to uh,
(30:44):
do the the manifesting thing,oh shit.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
While you were going through this journey, can you
tell me about the time where youalmost did you ever almost stop
DJing because you're like, damn, things aren't really going my
way or I actually hit rockbottom, or whatever?
I'm not trying to do this again.
Do you have a time or would youlike to share?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
if that happened, a million times like that and and
it always taught me.
It always taught me to Get backon the tightrope.
So when you're on the tightropeyou're walking whatever.
And then you know I'm gonnafucking fear off or whatever.
If you're just walking, you'rejust walking on the street.
If you trip, oh shit, you'renot gonna be like I fell down.
When you're just walking on thestreet.
If you trip, oh shit, you'renot going to be like I fell down
(31:29):
, it's like just walk up and go,keep going man you know, yeah,
yeah.
So see, it's two things You'reeither a pussy or you're a
fucking.
You know you're a champ.
So, pick one.
So the best way, another way tomanifest, is to keep telling
yourself I'm a champ, I'm achamp, and over all day, and so
every movement you do ischampion material.
(31:50):
But if you're like, oh man, Idon't see any result, you know
that's you got to keep going.
As soon as you plant the seed,god is like okay, I got you.
You have to have faith.
You really, really really haveto have faith.
If you don't have faith, thenfuck it, don't worry about it.
But for this I'm talking topeople that that are like champs
all right, and everybody hereis a champ.
Everyone has a special gift tomake the world a better place so
(32:11):
as you're going through the day, just keep saying that to
yourself and you're going tostart going into this world of
championness, you know, becausethere's like this uh, there's
this thing I don't know if youknow about this this thing,
multi, multi versus, okay, yeah,the infinity of use in this
universe, I'll pick the one youwant to be in.
So it's like, whatever you tellyourself, you're gonna do that.
(32:33):
So so, yeah, if you just keepgoing and have patience, it's
like scratching right, if youscratch, good, just like when I
was breaking.
You know why, the first day Iwent to a breaking thing and I
sucked at it.
I don't like breaking.
You know, if I stuck with it, Iwould have been freaking pretty
dope.
Yeah, yeah, so think withstretching, you have to just
(32:55):
stick with it and after a whileyou know you'll be rewarded.
So it's patience, Patience andfaith, and so same with anything
.
Anything you do, it's not goingto be like oh yeah, I won the
lottery right there.
Yeah, you might, but obviouslywith art, you know, and to make
(33:20):
beauty it takes time, oh,definitely.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Definitely.
I like how you said that,because things doesn't happen
right away, and I love themetaphor that you were speaking
just a few seconds ago, becausewhen I started this crap or my
bad, this shit man, when Istarted this I didn't know where
it was going.
I just did it because to me,it's very therapeutic.
(33:46):
I like talking to people.
It gets my mind away fromwhat's happening in my real life
and I like taking a lot of tits, tits and pieces from other
people.
Yeah, I like this too, but Ilike the information and, um,
(34:07):
like, just keep on going with it.
God got you and stuff.
I love that message, bro.
I really do love that messagebecause I'm like I'm on this
thing and I'm like I didn't knowhow far it came from.
Like episode one, you feel me?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
yeah, yeah yeah, same with me, I keep on adding a
brick to the castle and it'slike, holy shit, look at all
these episodes, or look at allthe um like all the scratches.
I got on on my tiktok now andit's like it's really cool, it's
it's it's really interestingand yeah, you just got to keep
going.
Yeah, and then, at the sametime as you're going, you'll
(34:41):
start noticing whoa, I'mdeveloping my own style, because
at first you're gonna be like,yeah, whatever name people are
gonna be, do you sound like this, you sound like what's his name
?
Blah, blah, blah.
And it's like you know, that,that could frustrate some people
, like that's okay.
But then if you just keep goingcourses, you know, like when
you're a kid you start, youstart copying your parents, your
whatever your brother's sister,whatever the way they, the way
(35:01):
they act, you know, I mean, andOf course, when you're a kid you
start copying your parents,your brothers, sisters, whatever
the way they act, and then youstart getting their mannerisms.
But as you get older, youdevelop your own personality.
So same with your art andwhatever you're doing, so don't
get frustrated off those littlethings.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Bro.
Facts man Straight up facts.
Thank you for the encouragementof words for the people that's
listening and maybe watching.
So thank you so much.
Question do you and the boysstill session together or are
you guys like different parts ofthe world now?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, but at the same time there's the internet, like
you said.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,true facts.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Scratch on this beat, but then when we have to
practice, then D-Styles andShortcut the same time.
There's you know, there's aninternet, like you said.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, true, facts scratch on
this beat.
But then when we have topractice, then d styles and
shortcut would come out to theoctagon.
Also, d styles has his ownoctagon.
I think we go out there andpractice and um, or when we do
shows we'll.
We'll get together a day, a dayor two before practice in like
a space uh-huh speaking of wehave Scratch Peoples album about
(36:01):
to come out.
I think we're at 90% done, solook out for that.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh shit, okay, okay.
Hey, that's what's up With thewhole.
I'm going to bring it back.
The whole octagon thing.
Is that what you came up withwhen you were 15, 16 year old,
or were you just like?
Did that come afterwards, likeyou?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
inventing this octagon.
I think I was 29 when that cameout and I needed, because we
would practice together at thehouse and we couldn't.
You know we were facing thewall, you know the tables and I
was like, oh shit, let's get atable where it's kind of like,
where we could all see eachother.
And so I told my dad was acivil engineer.
So we made this table.
(36:39):
It's this table right here.
actually it's the octagon, it's,it's, it's really a big ass,
square right, yeah, but butbecause I was into feng shui at
that time, the chinese peoplewas saying, if you, you have to
cut off the corners becausethey're too sharp, so it's like,
all right, I'll cut the cornersoff.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And it became an octagon that's all oh, okay, I
saw octagon because you hadeight turntables there, octopus,
eight legs.
I mean, that's what I?
That's what.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I thought, but so fucking practice tape when
someone came over like, oh shit,it's an octagon and I need to
trip up it.
Oh yeah, I guess yeah, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Um, alright, so we'll come into the.
We'll come to a little bit morelike you now, when you were
DJing at these parties, was iteasy to get a female on stage
with you?
Or like, hey, I want her, letme do my little thing.
I got her eye.
This and the third Was it easyor were you still having a
(37:40):
little bit of like?
Were you shy, having like withthe ladies and everything?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I wasn't even tripping off and I would just do
my thing.
And girls would come up to meand hey, hey, like, whatever you
need, I got you.
I'm like what, what?
The hell?
Man, it was just that was justa normal thing, for I would
never go out there and try toget a girl and stuff it was.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I never knew how to pick up on a girl.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I could never.
You know, some guys got thesesmooth waves.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
They got that game right yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I never knew how to do that, I would just ask
them to perform and then theywould talk to me.
It was really weird.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Okay, how did you meet your missus?
If you don't mind me askingWell, I was into health.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I still am.
I'm into health and because Igot into a spiritual world where
I wanted to scratch and be onpoint for the rest of my life.
Because it's like you know,okay, I really love scratching
so much to the extent that I'mlike, okay, what if I could
scratch it 100?
Years old.
Let's see what happens.
How would you do that?
Well, obviously you're gonnahave to stay healthy, so I I got
(38:51):
into all this health stuff.
So I would always go to thisone health store in san
francisco called rainbow groceryand they would.
It would be like the only, themost big.
I mean there's so many now inSan Francisco, but back then it
was like that was the one andthen she would always work there
.
And that's when I tried to pickup on her.
I tried to pick up on a girl.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I couldn't do it, I tried.
That's not one time I tried man.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I could not do it.
I would try to pick up on her alot and I was the worst.
I could not do it.
I would try to pick up on her alot and I was the worst.
And then one day, one day whatdo you call it?
She had broke her finger and Iwas like what, okay, well, shit.
I came back the next day and Iwas like, hey, here's a little,
because I learned about, youknow, crystal healing and all
(39:36):
that stuff.
So I gave her, like I think,this tiger's eye crystal and
said, hey, I crystal and say,hey, this is, this is gonna be
good for your arm, the heal,your your finger, or whatever I
think she had.
She closed up the store and Ithink the game had smashed her
hand, like, yeah, yeah, thething I said, well, this will
help your bone grow or whatever,fucking fix you.
Yeah, that's you know.
(39:57):
She was like, hey, we gottahang out.
And I'm like what became mygirl?
That's me to this day?
Is I over?
I think over 12 years?
We didn't give it up.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Wow, that's a happening.
That head that's rapping.
That's how I happen rich gotthat feng shui game.
Hey, hey, I got this crystalGirl.
This is supposed to heal yourfinger, this is from me to you.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, my man, this is a piece of charcoal.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I found on the ground Right, and you just said, hey,
man, it's a crystal, here you goI'm kidding, here you go With
your girl, right, does she?
Was there any problems of likeyou going to like a lot on these
shows and everything Like oh,honey, I want you, you know, I
want you here more often whenyou're doing these shows or
(40:51):
going out of countries and stuff?
Did that ever become a problemwith you, with you know, with
you and the missus?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No, no, of course.
Obviously that would be likeget the hell out of here.
It was like, yeah, my girlsupports me a thousand percent.
It's amazing.
Anything I like.
She cooks us food.
She takes care of my mom mymom's very healthy.
She takes care of her.
She's just amazing.
Everything freaking that I needto be done where I can scratch
(41:19):
more, she does it, justeverything.
I'm like, hey, don't even takeout the garbage.
I don't want her to take out thegarbage.
She takes the garbage out, shecleans, she cooks the healthiest
meals.
We don't have to go out.
It's like man.
Her food tastes better than thefreaking restaurants.
The desserts are amazing andthey're healthy too.
I'm even drinking thischocolate smoothie right now
(41:40):
because I just woke up.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
You just woke up.
Wait what 3.30?
Okay, 2.30.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
2.30.
So what I do is I it's 2.30right now.
Yeah, I'll go to sleep Well,not now, but we got on the
podcast but yeah, I usuallysleep at 5 am and wake up at 1.
Sometimes I'll sleep at 6 andwake up at 2, but I work all
night making all this stuff.
I make beans and all this stuff.
(42:06):
But oh, I would with everythingthat is crazy.
And she even takes care of like, okay, you know, you gotta um
make sure you get your sunlight,gotta go walk dog blah blah.
He's the most amazing girl tome in my life.
It's nuts.
I can't believe how blessed Iam.
Hey, dude, go check her out onMusician Nutrition on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
She's trying to start a whole thing called Musician
Nutrition.
Musician Transition.
Musician Nutrition, musician,nutrition.
Try saying that five times fast.
Hey, no, hey, that's what's up.
Man, I do love hearing you knowlike the spouse being really
supportive in what you're doing,like there's no, um, there's no
(42:53):
, like inklings in her mindsaying, oh man, he's just out,
you know goofing off.
It's's like no, you're actuallyworking, you're actually doing
what you love.
And I do like I do respect thewomen that understands that
about a man.
And the only reason why I saythat is because my wife, she
supports me in doing this Fromthe very beginning, like she was
(43:16):
kind of iffy because I wouldhave, you know, I would have
models and, you know, pageantpeople on here, and because I
would have models and pageantpeople on here, and then I would
have to reassure her that I waslike yo man, it's strictly
business, it's all professional.
I'm not trying to get my peenwet, I'm not trying to jump in
the panties or anything, it'sjust, at the end of the day, I'm
coming home to you, I'm cominghome to the family, I'm not
(43:37):
messing around, I'm just, youknow, I'm just liking to talk to
people and that's about it.
So I do respect the women thatyou know that have that level
head is just, you know, stilltaking care of the man and
saying, hey, this is what helooked to do, got to support him
, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, it's really important.
I Think that's the first thing.
If a girl can't support you,are you Canadian by any chance?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
No, I just say aboot a lot.
Okay, I've been saying that,dude, I'd be getting in trouble,
but I've been saying this eversince I was in the A7th grade.
Aboot, but it's only when I'mnot reading something.
When I'm reading, I'm notreading something, like when I'm
reading I'm announcing, prettycorrectly, but when I'm just
speaking it comes out like thatand I kind of hate it.
(44:29):
I'm trying to get out of it.
But sometimes it slips.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Thank you, it slips sometimes and I'm just like oh
shit, you know I have a lot ofCanadian friends and they say
that oh, yeah, hey yeah, likethere's this roundabout that you
have to drive around and theygo oh, go here, go around this
roundabout but what was the lastplace that you traveled to,
(44:54):
like out of state?
Man, china.
Where was that France?
Um, oh, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Was this recent too?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, what was I?
You know what?
It's a blur.
Right now I have to check myschedule.
I want to go to Mexico in acouple weeks.
Where is this now?
I think someone was sayingthey're're gonna bring us to
india soon.
I think also because we got theinvisible scratch pickles album
too.
So we're yeah trying to knockthat out, then we're gonna.
(45:28):
I would go like all over theworld hey, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
So, as a traveling dj , right, like, what are you
bringing with you?
If you don't mind me asking,like what goes in your backpack,
your luggage?
Like, are you bringing likeextra faders, extra needles?
Like what's what goes in thetraveling pack?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
well, depends how many days are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
oh shit.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Um, let's say, you're two weeks, you're on the road
for two weeks okay, we got tomake sure that that place,
wherever you're going to, haslaundry service or you can buy
that's like that's.
If it's for every week, yougotta have whatever seven socks
and seven.
Yeah, that's the thing, right,because you you want fresh stuff
(46:10):
and then um yeah you know yougotta wear the same pants every
day.
You want to carry too many pantsand um shirts are cool because
they're smaller, so you can justkind of scrunch them in there.
That's a week, right.
So now you have to figure outis these places you're going to
go to, going to have laundryservice?
Because if they don't havelaundry service, you're gonna
have to buy extra underwear orbring more underwear and things
(46:32):
like that, socks bring soap andwash it like this.
You know, yeah, I mean, thesoap is like, it's just this
much, it's like this whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I use it to soap people.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Dr Bronner, have you ever heard of that?
Yeah, I've heard of that.
Yeah, I discovered that inHawaii.
Actually, that was a goodlittle soap.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Uh-huh, I mean, you know that's a big question
You're asking me like fuck man,yeah, definitely extra needles
because the needles can break.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Okay.
Okay, the X-Records, that's agood one.
I like to bring a lot of stuffbecause when I get to the shows,
I like to throw some body tothe show, Okay okay, okay, okay,
that kind of stuff.
You know another guy that Iknew was DJ Scratch from EPMD,
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
EPMD boy Okay, he would take a duffle bag of
clothes and every day he woulduse his shirt.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
He would be a boy, okay he duffel bag of clothes
and every day he would use hisshirt.
He would have his dirty laundry.
You throw it in audience.
Who wants a shirt?
Never go crazy.
Yeah, we want a shirt, but itwas just really his laundry that
he was throwing out.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It was amazing he was like a lot in my pack.
Y'all, I'm fitting to throw myunderwear and my socks out.
Y'all Remember that.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That was a great way to lighten the load as the tour
went on.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Oh, hell, yeah.
So I've got this questionbecause back in the day, dude, I
used to have a lot of yourposters and your T-shirts, right
, dj Esco?
What happened to that?
If you don't, dj Esco, whathappened to that?
If you don't mind me askingwhat happened to that brand,
because I still have that shirt,I still have, you know, my
(48:11):
giant colored shirt, and I hadthis blue one of you on it too.
It said DJ Esco, what happenedto that brand?
Because I can't find itanywhere.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Or people can't find it.
We looked at thousands andthousands of brands.
What to that brand?
Because I can't find itanywhere or people can't find it
thousands and thousands ofbrand.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
What happened to them ?
Yeah, I have fucking.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Oh shit, okay, so you know, you have no idea either I
just did the thing and I'm onto back to making music.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
So I don't know, I hope I made there's something
yeah, okay, okay, well, shitrich dude From me to you, man.
Thank you for coming on, broman.
I do appreciate you so, so muchFor like making my little
dreams come true and forchopping it up with me, man.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Thank you, bro, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Hey, no problem, do you have any shout outs or
anything?
Or you know where can thesepeople Motherfucking find you at
?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Just go on djkubertcom.
We have a lot of new products.
Every week.
We have almost every week.
We have new stuff like thoselimited edition Slipmats.
We have this new record thatjust came out.
Speaking of the portable stuff,you know how.
They're like seven-inch records.
Yeah, have you ever triedstretching those little
seven-inch records?
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Dude my, oh, yeah, yeah, I tried scratching those
little 7-inch records.
Dude my yeah yeah, I tried.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, yeah, they're so fucking small.
So I was like, oh fuck, let'sjust give it an extra inch.
So, like, going back to thebeginning of the show, yes,
every inch counts.
So now we got this new recordcalled the Super Seal 8-incher
and it's fucking.
It fucking feels good, becausenow you can put your whole
fucking hand on it.
Because you can only scratchwith your fingertips.
I'm like what the fuck?
So now you can put your wholepaw on it and it feels amazing.
(49:47):
That shit sold out in like aweek, and so I was like, oh man,
so now, well, not oh man, I'mlike, actually I'm so happy, but
we made a part two.
I said now it's a scratchy seal8.2 incher.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
So it's a scratchy seal, 8.2 incher 8.2 incher.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
huh, I said about less than a month it should come
out, so stay tuned to myInstagram.
I can get people and all that.
Youtube, youtubecom, slashbedromo, and yes, that will be
coming out.
I think we might even reprintthe first one because it's super
dope.
Look out for that.
Yes, hey, that'll be coming out.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I think we might even repress the first one, because
it's super dope.
Look out for that.
Yes, hey, that's what's up.
Hopefully I catch you in Hawaii.
Man, honolulu, I'm a mamero,hey.
With that being said, man KOStudio, thank you for the lovely
home.
Rafi Byte, thank you for thelovely beat and with that, I'm
Chris.
It's your line, bro.
(50:42):
I'm Q, I'm Rich, oh okay,what's up?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I'm Qbert.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
This is my welcome pause and we out this bitch
Peace.
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