‘A happy hOHM’ - a Beatversation with Creators DOM CRUZ & TeedotEinsof - The Rec Show Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What is that sound, you ask?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
The Maybach Party all right, check, check one, two.
Peace and love everybody.
Go to my back again.
I told y'all we back outside.
I told y'all we back outside.
So look, this is what we'redoing, man.

(00:59):
We got another episode for thebeat for station series where I
go one-on-one with the creatorsof these dope albums, beat tapes
, experiences, whatever you wantto call it.
Man, it's all of that.
But this is where we go, kindof BTS, where we go behind the
scenes for these albums manthese beat tapes, these

(01:23):
instrumental albums and stufflike that.
Today I got a guest and I hopemy other guest pops up too.
But for right now we're goingto talk to my guest who hails
from California.
Man, I got a lot of Californiahomies out there man doing
amazing things up on my radarwhen they were plugging it with

(01:47):
the documentaries and stuff likethat on a on a specific YouTube
channel called A Love SupremeCalifornia man.
Um, it was December of lastyear.
Now, crazy enough, december oflast year I was in California,
um, in Barstow, california,dealing with some family stuff,
but I couldn't go to the eventsthat y'all were doing for this

(02:09):
album release, man, so I was alittle upset about that.
But family first, that's whatcomes first.
So I got my guest right nowwho's from California, mc, beat
maker, vinyl DJ.
He's from New York but now he'sliving all the way out in
california.
You know I mean he links upwith, uh, I love supreme

(02:30):
california.
You know, I mean he's the homieman.
He's, he's what?
What's uh t dot say he's, uh, aloved one?
Yeah, he's, he's, he's a lovedone man.
So yo give it up for the oneand only dom cru man.
What's good, dom Cruz?
How you doing, man?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
What's good, brother, man, I appreciate you for
having me on here.
Man, I appreciate you.
I'm just happy to be here.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, yo, I'm happy to be even talking to you about
this album, man, because thisalbum, man, it hit me in what we
call the heart chakra man man,it hit me.
It hit me in the what we callit, the heart shocker man.
It hit me in the heart shockerman Cause I can, I can relate to

(03:12):
a lot of the stuff that youwere saying, man, a lot of the
lyrics that you were putting inthis, and a lot of the guests
that we're going to talk about,um, that were featured on this
album as well, man, you and TIDinesoft, man, I love Supreme
California, love one man puttogether this amazing body of
work.
Can you like, for my firstquestion, can you just talk

(03:33):
about this album?
Why this album?
Why A Happy Home?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I like that question, man, I appreciate it.
I like that question, man, Iappreciate it.
Um, yeah, so you know, me andT-Dot.
We have known each other for areally long time and throughout
that that time we had constantlyspoke about making music.
But it was just, uh, it was.
It felt like a timing thing,you know, and we, I think once,

(04:09):
once we got the ball rolling,like once we actually had a song
or two um, that idea a happyhome came to my mind and I
pitched it to him.
I remember we was at theoriginal location location for
Supreme, I believe is in Januaryor February of last year, 2024.
And I just told him I was likeyo, what do you think of a name?

(04:32):
A happy home?
Because I'm the type of personthat kind of, when it comes to
projects, I tend to like reverseengineer it.
I kind of think of like the endfirst and then we work
backwards, like we make themusic.
I tend to think of like aconcept or a title or you know a
couple things that, like theend version would have.
So I pitched that name to himand I will say that I did pitch

(04:53):
a couple other like ideas andnames to him prior and it didn't
feel like nothing was reallysticking.
But when I said that I rememberthat night it resonated with
him.
And then he, he, I love that hedid this.
You know, this is really to me.
What makes the project superspecial too is, uh, he was like
yeah, if we spell home, let'sspell it h-o-h-m, which is crazy

(05:15):
to me too, because he has awhole different interpretation
of spelling it.
Like that um to me, I interpretit as ohm is like the sound of
the universe, like om is god,and I'm pretty sure, yeah, he
has a different um meaning forthat, actually um.
So yeah, you know, hopefully wecould get it, get it, get that

(05:36):
from him.
But yeah, that just came to me.
You know him and I tend to havelike very deeper on a deeper,
deeper than surface levelconversations nine times out of
10.
For whatever reason, it justtends to go that way.
I think you know that's kind ofjust how he is.
I'm like that for the most parttoo.

(05:57):
So I was coming off of releasinga project with splashes, which
is esoteric poetry, which was.
It was a little more fun, youknow, it was like just just
rapping, just loose, and I had afeeling we had to take it there
.
You know me and Tita was goingto make a project, we had to
take it like a little bit deeper.
So, yeah, that I think that's,that's, that's why that that

(06:20):
came to be.
You know, we had the name.
We name, we had the title.
Um, when we came up with thetitle, we only had like two or
three demos, but they all kindof I believe they were the first
track, which is peace, peace,we have plant seeds and we have
flowers, if I'm not mistaken,and wild wings.
Those are the first four songsand those all really are

(06:42):
probably like the foundation ofthat project when you really
think about it.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
To me, yeah, um, that's crazy because that was
gonna be one of my questions.
The way y'all spelled a happyhome, like um, like yeah, um,
when I got that, when I waslistening, I was like I got it,

(07:06):
oh snap, the way y'all flip yo,that was crazy.
But this artwork I'm I'm gonnashare, I'm gonna share my, I
gotta share my screen, man,because, um, I got, I got, yeah,
I'm gonna do it on here becauseI gotta allow the listeners to
to look at this album artworkman, this is, this is crazy,

(07:30):
okay, so let me go, let me pullthis up.
Okay, can you see this?
yes, sir okay, so this album,let's look at this.
Let's look at the album artworkfor one.
Yeah, like the open hand withthe, the eye in the middle, but
then what y'all don't see if ifyou're not paying attention is

(07:53):
the.
It's like a flower and amushroom.
Yeah, from the fingers, yeah,coming from the fingers.
You know I'm saying and then,in the words right there.
It's like muted gradient sky,like bro you gotta talk about.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Talk about this artwork too, man uh, that's love
, man, and um, that's that wasdone by a homegirl of mine.
Her name is jacqueline.
Um, I met her through my wife,tanya, and, yeah, shout out to
her, uh, the idea, the idea forthe hand and everything.
I believe, if I'm not mistaken,that was her idea.

(08:32):
I'm kind of struggling toremember 100, but, um, I want to
say it was her idea because wesent her, like most and uh, you
know, just a couple lines likethis is what we wanted to
represent.
You know which some of the corethemes were, like growth,
family, um, healing, and I, I'mstarting to remember now.

(08:57):
Yeah, she said the handsbecause she thought of healing
hands when she heard the music.
She said hands heal.
And, um, you know, she wentthrough a few different
variations of the cover.
Obviously, there's like analternate one with like colored
in and such, but we brought theprocess of the album, which was

(09:17):
pretty much like damn near ayear, a little bit over a year,
in the making.
We kept.
I felt like me and terrence wereboth kind of stuck on that
unfinished version and I likethe unfinished version because
to me that represents, thatrepresents me.
You know, I'm saying to me thatrepresents me.
It's not about being perfect.
To me, um, there's nothing.

(09:38):
Nothing in this life is reallyperfect, um, no one is perfect,
um, and that's that's really,hopefully, the message that
people get, or one of themessages people get from the
music is it's not aboutperfection, it's just about
completion, like wholeness.
So I personally love that thecolors are there too, like the

(09:59):
palette is there, because it'slike this is life.
You know, you have the choiceto choose your colors, to choose
your palette and such.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Damn, damn.
Listen listeners, man.
This album is deep.
Man Like yo if you're not readyto go like, if you're on that
surface level stuff, this ain'tthe album for you.
Man Like this album this albumgoes deep, like in some man.
It's it's healing, but it'salso aggressive, but it's also

(10:33):
peaceful.
It's light, it's it's laughterin it, like it's all of the
human emotions.
I'm not sure if that wasintentional, but you know know
what I mean it was.
That's what I got from it.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
It definitely was, man, it was intentional.
Yeah, man, it was just a greatexperience.
Man, it's hard for me to conveyhow that all happened, because
it was intentional, but it also,for the most part, happened
effortless.
You know, it wasn't like we satdown like, oh, now we need hard

(11:07):
, gritty track, now we need theposse cut.
Some of those ideas were talkedabout in the beginning, but
there were other ideas that wetalked about that didn't happen.
So I think what was meant tohappen happened and that's what
came about.
Happen and um, that's that'swhat came about.

(11:30):
So, yeah, like the grittiness,like a thousand g's, the, you
know, the, the trauma shit, likejournal entry to, um, the fun,
the fun shit like role model,like that.
That's all there for a reason.
You know it's to representcompletion, because we all, we
all have many, many, many sidesto us.
Man, I was just thinking aboutthis earlier.
Like none of us are really twoor three dimensional people.

(11:51):
We all got many dimensions tous.
You know it's just like can yoube open to share that with
other people?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
man, yo okay, we're gonna go, we're gonna start out,
man, because for listeners thisis a I want to say it's a 13
track album.
Right, um, 10 of them are themain album, yeah and then it's
good.
Then it goes to 16 with thebonus right yeah, and then 17 if
you got a cassette oh, and Igot the and I got the cassette

(12:27):
yo.
So you know, I'm saying yo stopplaying with them.
Yo stop playing with them manwe're gonna talk about.
I got one too yeah, we're gonnatalk about this.
We're gonna talk about thisalbum cover too.
But, but, okay, so you open up,you open the album with you
know snapshots of, like sundaymornings, like spiritual
grounding, um, and then Ibelieve that's your wife talking

(12:52):
on that on the album, likebasically like leaving you a
message, you know, like saying aprayer for you, um, as you go
throughout your day, correct?
Yeah, okay, so we're gonna,we're gonna start yeah that is
yeah, we're gonna.
We're gonna play track one andthen we're gonna talk about
track one.
I'm only gonna give y'all asnippet, man, because y'all
gotta support this album.

(13:12):
If you want to hear more of it,all right, but let me um word,
yeah, yeah, yeah, let me, uh,let me go to share my screen.
Let me start that, and thenwe're going to play track one
for about 30 seconds and go fromthere and we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
All right, thank you.
I'm proud of you for risingevery single day with strength,
with energy for the day ahead,and all while taking care of our
home, no matter what.
I'm so grateful for you and I'mso grateful for our cozy home
so we can rest, create heal andlove.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's like pancakes on a Saturday.
It's like watching novellaswith my abuela.
It's like the simple things.
Keep us remembering Straightfrom the source.
Baby, I'm a gentleman.
Pray for many men.
I was a thug.
That man I barely remember him.
And two were masculine andfeminine.
A fresh start is vital todevelopment.
You hide your demons, me.

(15:01):
I let em in.
Let em settle in A happy home,confronts everything, all cards
on the table.
God is not a fable.
God is not a label.
They ask why I talk about Godso much.
It's because I'm able.
What I'm supposed to reach for.
You said the sky was the limit.
I back yo, yo that.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
That, that first track, man, man that really like
I knew it was gonna be dopeanyway.
But that first track is likeit's's.

(15:44):
So it's inviting man, becauseit's like nature, natural, like
the way y'all did, like yourwife's voice, where it's kind of
like it's not overpowering thenature part, but then it's got
the wind chimes in it and it'slike come on, man, yo, how did
y'all come up with that piece?
The name of that track iscalled Peace, peace.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, bro, um, you know, shut up, that's a T.
That of course, bro, cause,first of all, that's a T, of
course, just the whole album.
Like huge, like.
That is a track that heactually made like way before
Like.
That's one of the few jointsthat you know wasn't like
literally made for me.
He just made that, I think youknow, a year or two prior, um,

(16:32):
and he actually gave me the beat.
I thought he knew this at thetime, but he gave me the beat
for a business who surroundsyoutube channel.
But I told him I wanted it forme.
I think he just didn'tunderstand that and when I
started rapping it to him, likethe demo notes in hand, he just
said, oh shit, you're gonna rapon this.
I was like, yeah, man, I got toLike cause I wanted.
At that time we didn't have theconcept fleshed out yet, we

(16:55):
didn't pick the name and such,but I know how to rap over
different stuff.
You know I wanted to finddifferent type of and just for
creativity.
You know, peace, peace.
You know we both say that a lot.
You know a lot of our homiessay that a lot, and the way I
started to envision it as theway the project was starting is

(17:17):
like this was me literallyinviting you into my house?
We did most of this project inmy crib.
I would say like, maybe, sit inthe crib, rest in the crib,
disappear into other places, butwe trying to paint a picture
this is my house, this is who Iam, you know.

(17:41):
But yeah, that was pretty muchthe intention.
You know.
It's like welcome to the crib.
You're going to spend some timehere, so you know, wipe your
feet off at the doormat, takeyour shoes off, get comfortable.
We're going to go on a littleride, yo.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Intentional man.
Like everything about thatfirst track is intentional to
where.
It's like just what you said.
Like yo wipe your feet off,take them shoes off, sit down,
relax, we're going to be herewe're going to talk about some
things.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
We're going to have some fun.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, and there's a like,that's the meditative openness.
What I like to call it Like thepeace piece is the meditative
openness, but there's a strongblend of like confession but
uplifting at the same time.

(18:37):
How did you balance that likevulnerability and power movement
in that first impression, likewith peace piece, that like?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
vulnerability and power movement in that first
impression, like with Peace?
Peace, that's a good question.
Yeah, I want to say I don'tknow, bro, to be honest with you
, I want to say that I waswriting that song in its own
universe.
I wasn't really thinking aboutthe album itself when I was

(19:07):
writing that song.
So it wasn't like, let me writethis because this is the intro.
It was more like, let me justcreate, you know, let me see
what I could do with a tracklike this too, especially
because it is, you know, soundslike a meditation.
So, yeah, it just naturallyhappened to fit, and there was a
time in my mind where I waslike we might not even put that

(19:29):
on the album, you know, but butit makes sense, you know.
It literally greets you itliterally greets you and I like
that, you say confession.
That's a.
That's a really dope word,that's that literally kind of
fucked me up in the head alittle, just because, like my
music, I'll really be snitchingon myself.
You know what I'm saying word,that's that literally kind of
fucked me up in the head alittle.
Um, just because, like my music, I'll really be snitching on
myself.

(19:49):
Like like you know, for lack ofbetter word, like like there's
some shit, like you know, I feellike it maybe doesn't need to
be said, um, but I got to, youknow, like I to be said, but I
got to.
You know, like music is reallymy therapy, so if I don't let it
out there then I might not ever, ever let it out.

(20:10):
So you know, I think for thattrack that made sense.
You know, it's just like Iwanted it to be calm and I just
wanted to match the vibe thatTerrence created with that beat
you know the instrumental.
It's just, it's just it's justthe answer.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
it's just the answer.
Yeah, man Yo.
Okay, I can speak about Peace,Peace all day.
We got a whole nother.
We got all of the tracks totalk about.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Um the second track is called Home spelled.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
H, capital O, capital H, capital M.
Right, so I know maybe it's.
You know everybody's going toget something that different
from each track and you knowwhat they, what they are open to
at that time, but for me itspeaks to like home, beyond a
physical space.

(21:02):
Like to me, um, like what, whatpersonal stories, um, or
memories shape the theme of thissong.
And you're gonna answer thatonce we play, all right, so I'll
give you a little bit of timeto think about that I appreciate

(21:23):
you I, I got you man, let's go,let's see.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
All right.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
They say home is where the heart is.
I'm on the road.
I feel heartless, been on thego since I started.
The goal was the goal post.
Now we go beyond it, rightbeyond the margin, right to find
the manners Layers to theunconscious Come, come up with
double entendres From the blocksof the Bronx bombers promise.
We, not farmers, grew up on toprhymin'.

(22:12):
The day the sun don't come outis when I stop grindin'.
Peaks and valleys can't stopclimbin'.
The journeys here can't stoparrivin'.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
That's it.
I'm a real savage, that's itReal up yeah Culture, got him,
got him, that's all y'all getyou know what I'm saying?
Yo, I love that you know whatI'm saying, so I'ma just
reiterate that question again.

(22:45):
Man, you know, as far as homegoes, like what personal stories
and you know, or memories,shape the theme of this track.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Bro, that is a great question.
You got some great questions.
I appreciate that I appreciatethat.
You really are the golden that'shonestly what I started
thinking about more once wedecided this is going to be the

(23:18):
title and once I started seeingthings fall into place.
So just because we had the namedidn't mean like I had the
whole concept fleshed out rightaway.
And that beat man, thatinstrumental man shout out to
T-Dot bro, like he absolutelymerked that shit.
And there's another version ofthat instrumental which you know

(23:38):
the homegirl Greenaw raps onlater on the album.
That was the original versionbut we decided to strip it down
so it could build um, becauseyou know, the second verse comes
in, third verse comes in andbuilds.
But um, I was really trying toencompass so many definitions of
home, like literal home whereyou live, then the, the
statement like home is where theheart is.

(24:00):
You know, you, as long asyou're in tune with yourself,
like your heart is always always, you should always be connected
to your heart, your heart isalways with you.
And then, like you alluded to,with the actual question, like
travel.
Like travel, because you know,as you said when you was
introducing me, I'm from NewYork, I'm somehow out here in

(24:20):
the West Coast, somehow.
I still don't believe this shitmyself.
On top of that, like I've beenblessed to travel, you know
other countries and shit andeverything I carry with me.
Everyone I love, everything Ilove, is with me in all those
times and places.
So that's kind of what I wastrying to touch on, like who I

(24:42):
am, who the people around methat matter are what it feels
like to travel to these placeswith them, with me, but not
literally with me.
Um, and I think it was superimportant to include like my
kids voices.
Um, I think that's the onlytrack where all three of my kids
voices are on there, likethat's my baby in the beginning

(25:02):
and then I believe it's betweenthe second and third verse, is
my older son and my middle child, my daughter.
It's a really old video, butit's them like playing in a park
and like my son's like you'regoing.
My daughter's like you're goingtoo fast and she's saying that
to my son in the video, but itlike matches the theme and the

(25:23):
song perfectly.
So it's like another one ofthose things.
It's like, like you said, it'slike intention, even though we
didn't sit there thinking like,oh, we're going to do this and
add this.
This shit just came together sofucking perfectly and I love
that.
That's generally literallygenuinely like most days.
That's one of my favorite songs, like top three songs.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, man, yo Yo.
I appreciate you doing that man.
You know we family man.
You know T Dot, t Dot.
I ain't stopping in the houseright now, man, what's good T
Dot, yeah, yo, what's good.
You know like, you know we allfamily right now yo.
So you know what I mean.
Hey, man, what's good.
What up, how you doing Pat, I'mgood man.

(26:05):
How y'all man Good Great toblast man.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah, speaking of family, my bad y'all, I'm with
the family right now.
Black guy here, brother Toprihere, fern here, my little
brother here.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
So Boom, boom, boom, boom boom.
A lot of Supremes in the houseyeah, nah, I got caught in.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
We were making a beat and everything, so I got caught
in the process.
My bad yo, hey bud what up?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I figured you was doing something man like you
know what I mean.
It could have been anything,man.
I just wanted to make sure youwere safe, that's all nah, nah
bad love.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
That's my apology yo.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
So we talking to.
Alright, here we go, listenersman internets.
We talking to Dom Cruz and TDon Einsoff man, who are the
creators of A Happy Home, whichcame out December of 2024, man,
it came out as a 13-track album.
If you get the cassette, itturns into a 17-track album.

(27:02):
If you get the CD, that's is,is it 16.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
yeah, yeah, the cassette is 14.
The digital release is 16, andI think the cd got every does.
The cd got everything, though?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
it would depend, bro, because I think there's
multiple versions like that'ssomething we never really uh, I
know that motherfuckers with a13 track version and I know
there's people with a 16 trackversion.
So it just depends when youbought it, type shit yeah, yeah,
that is, that is definitelycorrect.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
Um, because the the intentional aspect was journal
entry.
3 was, personally, uh, bonustrack for the cassette, that's
why it's 14, but Dom's beensitting there and making albums.
The last two albums had bonusrecords that he released um on
top of the regular release.
So it's like when you buy theshit, you get extra, you get

(27:55):
extra joints.
So that's where that idea cameabout um, within the extra means
of three extra tracks.
Yeah, so I believe that'sdigital version and I I do
believe, like he was saying,some cds do got 16, some cds got
13.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Um, yeah, there's a lot more music out there from
this, all these sessions as well, yo, hopefully we get to hear
them, hopefully they get to seethe light of day eventually.
But we're gonna talk about ahappy right now, which is a very
personal like.
This is one of the albums likewhen I'm talking to my grandkids

(28:30):
, like, and hey, like granddad,like yo, what was you listening
to?
Like, what was an impactfulalbum that you listened to?
I'm adding this to the list.
You know what I mean.
I got to add this to thecollection.
Like I'm going to make this,gonna make this own capsule,
like a time capsule type ofthing.
You trying to grow as a person,you trying to grow as a human

(28:53):
being, as a spirit.
I'm putting that in there.
There's other albums that I grewup with that I throw in there,
but this is one of them.
Ones Salute to y'all, man, forcreating such a dope piece of
like.
I can't even just say music,man, because it's more than that
.
You know, it's for real, morethan that, man I appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
I got a question for you yes, sir, you don't mind you
, you've been supporting me andlistening to my music damn near
from the jump.
You know um, as well asunderstanding and observing the
the journey I'm on as a humanbeing.
How does, how does this albumline up to everything that has
been created that you've heardor I've shared with you prior?

Speaker 4 (29:41):
this is, this is man.
I gotta say it's a differentspectrum for me, man.
Like it's a different, it's ahigher spectrum, like like what
you were doing before was good.
You know what I mean in its ownright.

(30:02):
Like for each individual pieceof music when you were like
working with.
You know Jotty Unitas and youknow all of the all of these
different.
You know amazing talentedpeople, but I feel like I'm
tapped into like a different,like the two of y'all.
It's like a different spiritualenergy, man.

(30:23):
It's I can't even properlydescribe it, man.
It's levels, levels above whatyou did.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
I appreciate you the reason why I was asking.
I was just curious.
The first interview, like yearsago, oh man, I first started.
Yeah, you asked me a lot ofquestions, so I just wanted to
sit there and ask a questionthat presents like a third party
observation.
You know, that is just like.

(30:56):
Okay, I think you go from thisto this or from this feeling of
intention within spirit andmessage to you know this whole
album.
That embodies Pretty much.
I feel like everything that wasspoken about or sprinkled in in
every other release.
You know whether that waspersonal pieces by me or like an

(31:16):
album I did with Joey, the EP Idid with Johnny being a part of
other records that people askedme to produce for them.
So it was just an interestingquestion.
You've been a supportiveindividual, and not only that,
but you've been friends for sucha long time that it's like it's
dope to get external pieces ofinformation.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yo, I appreciate that when I first came across your
music, I think I was in Japan,man, and I was just tapping into
different artists from aroundthe world.
And then I ran across your pageand then, you know, started
supporting from there and I waslike yo, he's like going to

(32:03):
something, just like I can't putmy finger on it, but I for lack
of a better word I with it,yeah, like I with it, so, yeah.
So I was like you know what?
You guys keep making music likethis.
I'm gonna continue messing withit and supporting it, keep
pushing it, keep pushing it.
You know what, if you guys keepmaking music like this, I'm
going to continue messing withit, supporting it, keep pushing
it, keep pushing it.
You know, into the masses,whoever it is Looking at my

(32:24):
Twitter page and all that stuff.
And then you know one of thealbums.
I think you did it with JohnnyUnitas man, I think that is his
name, right?
Johnny Unitas.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
Yeah, johnny, unitas, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
When you came out with that album.
I think that was one of thealbums that I was like yo, I
gotta start a podcast, man,because, yo, what I can say on
Twitter is not enough.
It can go and then disappear inone second, but if I start and
really tap into, you know, havepeople listen to these albums
and these these specific artists, they can, they can live

(33:03):
forever.
Man, whoever's like gonna belooking at this a year from now,
two years from now, they'regonna be like, oh, all right,
let me go back to this album,they vibing on it.
You know they can talk sohighly about it, but yeah, now
it ain't about me, that's abouty'all man.
Let me talk about y'all man fora second.
But yo man, um man, fatherhoodand generational past and um and

(33:41):
home.
How did, how did you likeapproach writing so intimately
about being a dad man?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
That's a crazy question.
Um, I think it felt like oncewe knew the direction of the
project, like once we knew itwas really trying to take it
there.
There's no telling my storywithout talking about my kids.

(34:11):
Like they are me.
Like I don't exist without themis the way I look at it.
Like I don't.
I don't exist without them isthe way I look at it.
Like they, they honestly.
Like if it wasn't for my kidsbeing born, like from the very
moment my first son was born,aiden like I genuinely don't
know if I'd be here.

(34:32):
Like in my early 20s I was alittle reckless.
I wasn't, I didn't really havea lot of direction.
But I know, when I met, when Ilike officially met my son, I
was like this is, this, is alittle bit bigger than me.
Even though I truly didn't, youknow, have the maturity at that

(34:53):
time, I knew I needed to growup and I wanted to grow up.
And you know, when my daughterwas born, same thing.
It just like levels you up andI just felt like it was
necessary for me to beuncomfortable, because the
reality is I don't really showmy kids my music right now.
If they find it, they find it,or sometimes they hear pieces of

(35:14):
it, but I know one day theywill hear it and I want them to
just hear the truth.
You know I was saying that Iwant them to hear the truth, I
want them to hear my perspective.
So that's kind of where I wascoming from with it, and I felt

(35:36):
like it was also important tomention my upbringing within
that same like that same vein.
Like how my pops was in theroom, how I had a step pops, um,
wow, yeah, my dropped for asecond.
I don't know if, like,everything I said went through,
but yeah, that after that, thatyour mic will mute it yeah, my
was tripping as well.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
The last thing I caught yeah, my shit was
tripping as well.
The last thing I caught was themeans of evolution.
You wanted to sit there andspeak upon it within your
perspective, without sittingthere and getting too caught up
in everything.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm pretty much out of this.
I'm just going to pull off.
I'm in the whip.
Let me pull off to where I gota little better service.
But um, I just wanted to speakthe truth.
You know what I'm saying, mytruth, like I was saying earlier
, like music is really mytherapy.
If I don't let it out here, Idon't know how I'm gonna, how
else I'm gonna let it out, atleast in a healthy way, know so

(36:36):
I I felt like it was importantfor me to speak on that
relationship with my kids,whether it's the positive sides
or the negative sides, andeverything just kind of came out
of me, bro, like that's thebeautiful shit about music, at
least for me.
Like I can't help it, it justcomes out of me.
It is, like you said wayearlier, like a confession in a
way.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah, man, okay, so we're going to go to Plant Seeds
, which is another like standouttrack for me.
But there's a lot of standouttracks on this whole album.
Like I don't, there's no skips,and I'm bumping this album
right now.
Like when I go pick up mydaughter they she's like yeah,

(37:21):
like I'll pause it when they getin, because sometimes they
don't listen to what I'mlistening to.
But, um, but she'd be like yeah, you can turn it back on, daddy
.
I'm like all right, cool, so wesaid that's fine so we started.
Yes, the 16 year old, yes, he's,he's getting her musical like
influences and stuff like thatfor me and her mom, you know, so

(37:42):
you know.
But uh, I was like all right,cool, so I started bumping it.
But plant seeds.
We're gonna talk about plantseeds.
I'm gonna play a little snippetof it for the internets.
Um, make sure y'all follow domcruz on I think it's Dom Cruise
Music on Twitter and Instagram,right?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yes sir, yes sir, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
And then TI Dinesoft on Instagram and Twitter right.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Okay, so then, and then follow them on Bandcamp.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Where else Apple Music, spotify, no not fuck
Spotify, youtube, yeah, whereveryou listen to music, wherever
you enjoy your means ofrelaxation and audio.
Look up Tom Cruise music.
Look up TI.
Look up Golden Mind.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Appreciate the plug yo.
Shameless plug, yo Yo.
So we're going to get in theseplant seeds real quick and we're
going to come right back, and Igot a couple of questions for
y'all about that one too.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Okay, all I wanna do is plant these seeds.
Take my hand, take a walk withme, put your feet in the dirt,
get lost With me, take a tripfrom the world quarterly.
Support my seeds.
Who's supporting me?
Need some sort of ground.
My skin is tan, my over brownout the window with a quarter
pound on the road floor to brown, texas, georgia, back to New
York, gotta get caught up.
Brooklyn, fordham, all theplaces we was brought up from

(39:35):
the bottom ground, grounded,rotten, absorbed the pilot.
Now we blossom, evolving.
We got sons and daughters.
Look what this is them broughtus.
Look what this is them taughtus.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yo, man, yo, like, you know what man, I want to
play the whole track, but nah,man, we ain't giving that to
them.
Yo, they gotta go get the album.
You know they gotta go get thealbum.
You know we, nah, they ain'twhat we're doing, you know.
But you know it's such a manthey the the.

(40:16):
But yo, it's such a man, theT-Dot man.
Let me ask you this questionfirst, man, from a production
standpoint, I mean both of y'all, both of y'all are beat makers,
music producers.
Man, you took a very minimalapproach to this track.

(40:44):
It's just the pianos, you know,I mean some, some, some, uh,
percussion hits, um, some, someambient, like waterfall type of
thing.
Man, like, is that?
Like was this, was it?
Did you build the track likethis or was it a lot bigger?
And you just started strippingaway what didn't match what Don
was talking about?

Speaker 6 (41:02):
No, that beat was made in 2019 when I was still
raw.
Them vocals at Plants Seeds ofLove is actually the homie Kevin
Jerome Shout out to my brother,kevin.
That's from a session werecorded in early 2019 and I
just found a part of the vocalsand I was just like I like this

(41:23):
and I just made a beat aroundthat.
I was in a depressive state ofmind, like I wasn't feeling
really within myself.
I had a lot going on in life,so that was why that came about
was like a reminder myself I'mhere to plant seeds of love.
It doesn't matter if it's chaosand everything that's going on
around me, like I'm still hereto be myself through and through

(41:45):
, through and through.
But that beat is a fewdifferent layers, so it's just
like Middle Eastern, middleEastern sample and that's where
you get at the end.
It's like a sitar or thisstrings instrument.
That's like yeah yeah.

(42:07):
That's the beginning of therecord.
And then you got water andeverything behind it, so I just
used the water, I looped it.
I sit there and create afeeling and an intention, and
then I just built the percussionand everything around it.
I looped it, sit there andcreate a feeling and an
intention, and then I just builtthe percussion and everything
around it.
I don't really make beats likethat.
That was like probably one ofthe most liberating joints I've
made, because I was really goingthrough some shit in life and I

(42:29):
was just wanting to let somefeelings out.
So it's just like OK, there'sno subconscious structure.
You know what I'm saying whenyou know, you know how to make
beats and you just go about itthe same way every time.
Or like you just have thisroutine, you go about.
There's no routine.
It was just like okay, thisfeels good.
Oh, this feels good.
Oh shit, you about to sit thereand cry a little bit.
Keep going, yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yo, that's a common theme, man, when you're talking
about that, you're saying youknow we're going through some
things and you know when youwere creating, it was just the
most liberating.
I feel like, as men, we don'toften talk about our emotions,
our feelings and stuff like that, which you know is a bad thing.
Um, and it can be a bad thing,especially if we bottle up and

(43:20):
just let things keep adding toit and adding to it.
Then we explode and we explodeand it's gonna cost us.
You know it's not now.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Like what you built, what youworked so hard for man, um, that
I think that's important totalk about.
Yeah, as men, we go throughthings.

(43:41):
We're not women because womenthey talk.
Women just talk.
That's a natural thing forwomen to just talk.
But men, if we don't feel safearound other men to convey our
emotions, we're not going totalk.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
We're not going to talk.
We're not going to talk For mepersonally.
I'm around a lot of people.
I'm not sitting there saying Iknow a lot of people.
There's a big difference and Irespect the means of knowing
someone compared to being aroundfolks, but that's for the means
of sitting there saying for thepeople I'm around.

(44:19):
There's that space ofconversation.
Me and Dom talk about life.
On the top, we have a lot ofsimilarities in our life, so
it's been easy to sit there andreflect and learn from each
other, like, especially now thatI'm a father stepping into this
new world, I ask him aboutadvice or he shares his stories

(44:42):
and experiences and it allows meto sit there and, okay, how can
I tend to this a lot easier, alot more efficient.
Like you know, frank bernardtovery, he's a father, you know.
Like being surrounded by otherfathers, that allows the journey
of that season to be a littlebit more efficient, because
you've got a lot of peoplearound you that are balancing
out Like you.

(45:02):
You know you're balancing outbeing a pops, but then also
being your own individual andsometimes, like I think we've
spoken about before, it's likesometimes you've got to draw
back and prioritize.
That's also a part of being aman being able to sit there and
stand in responsibility and notbe selfish in our own desire,

(45:23):
our own ways um dom you want to.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
You want to add anything to that?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
yeah, I mean, I'd say I'd say, like where we're at in
the world right now, like Ithink it's important for us to
just continue that conversation,like to keep encouraging other
men to speak what you feel.
However, you need to do that,whether it's through your music,
through your podcast, in person, you know whatever.
Whatever the case may be,because when you, when you, when

(45:55):
you put yourself out there likethat, what you're doing, you
know a lot of times you'reinspiring someone to do the same
.
And that's important because,like, if no one does it, then no
one does it, but you got it'slike the domino effect.
And once we could startspeaking about these things,

(46:15):
then it's not so taboo and itdoesn't have to be an absolute
truth, like we say it so often,like it's an absolute truth.
Like men don't speak abouttheir feelings.
Well, I kind of disagree withthat, because I do know men that
speak about their feelings.
It's just that the majority andthe mainstream, like
consciousness, kind of makes itseem like we don't.
And I understand that because,like I don't, I won't just open

(46:37):
up to anybody anytime, don't.
And I understand that because,like I don't, I won't just open
up to anybody anytime.
But, um, you know, it's reallyabout how well you know yourself
.
You know, because I think a lotof the times we don't want to
communicate because we eitherfear being judged or, um, yeah,
we, it's just some kind of fearor pride.
You know that you're gonna lookweak or something like that.
But you know, I think by nowyou know, we all pretty Like, we

(46:58):
know that don't necessarilymake you weak.
It actually makes you strongerbecause you're comfortable with
yourself.
You know you.
You know that whether you openup to someone and how they
receive it or not, that doesn'tthat doesn't define you.
You know what I'm saying?
That doesn't that doesn't makeyou any less than or even more
than you know you're still justa person.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
That's right.
Yeah, I appreciate both ofy'all's insight on this man
Cause that is, yeah, it is true,Like I do know, I do know some
men that, uh, there's only acouple, a couple of men that I
can really, you know, reallyjust say what's on my mind.
You know what I mean, Like whatI've been dealing with without

(47:45):
fear of judgment or reprisal, oryou know being called a pussy,
or you know like, or man up typeof thing.
You know it's like we got toexpress our emotions.
Man Like, come on, man, come on.
Man like, yeah, but okay, manum.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
We all human man.
We all human at the end of theday, like I, don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
To me that's still like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
To me that's just a little immature man like to to.
You know to say anybody, man orwoman, is a pussy or whatever,
just because they feel some shit.
You know, people want you to bequiet or to be numb or to
shrink yourself, because that'swhat makes them comfortable.
Because when you start doingthat, then they start feeling
like they have to do that.

(48:33):
And they don't know how to dothat, or it's scary to them to
do that.
You know that that's what thewhole concept of like mirrors
and reflection is, is like ifyou, when you present yourself,
however you present yourself,whether that's open, closed,
intellectual, whatever labelyou're gonna ignite that in
another person.

(48:53):
You know, like when someone'slike, oh, I just got a haircut,
they're like, oh, I need to geta haircut, or I was just
listening to naz, they're gonnabe like, oh, I was just
listening to clips.
Because that's how we connect.
Like you say something, I saysomething that's as close, as
close to that as possible.
It's just like nature.
But when you start taking itthere, speaking about emotions,
especially heavy ones, like painor shame or guilt or whatever

(49:16):
stress, even like now the personin the room with you.
They kind of feel like theyhave to too, and a lot of people
just don't know.
You know, a lot of us weresilenced by our parents, our
school system or we even leftalone.
Some of us were abandoned, soit's like we didn't even have
anyone to talk to.
You know, I'm saying Idefinitely felt that way growing
up.
I was left alone, a lot in thecrib I was talking to my fucking

(49:37):
toys and shit, you know.
And motherfucker had to learnlike, had to go through, had to
go through shit.
To learn like.
This is not healthy, you know,I had to be around people that
like exposed that in me like yo,you don't know how to express
yourself and I'm still workingon it to this day, you know.
But that's, that's.
That's kind of the point.
Because you bottle all that upwith you, man, that's gonna kill

(49:58):
you, that's gonna turn intocancer yeah, yeah, it is
inflammation that part man um.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Yo plant seeds right um this is the?
This is the last questionbefore this.
We getting deep in here, man, Itold y'all I told y'all internet
, I told y'all this album isvery like it's.
It's not heavy in a bad way,it's just it touch.
It touches on human emotions,man, and make you and make you

(50:28):
start thinking and reflecting,like you know.
I mean like what you're sayingand the way the music feels, and
yeah, but when you think aboutand this is a question for both
of y'all when you think aboutseeds in your career so far,
what have been the earliestseeds that are now bearing fruit

(50:48):
, oh man, you want to take thatdown first, you can take that
down.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Yeah, you can go first bro.

Speaker 6 (51:06):
In all honesty, I want to sit there and say, just
taking that chance in general,man, like there is a moment in
point in time where it's likethe end of the year, the EOTY EP
with Johnny, that was my firstproject I ever released and that
only happened because Johnnywanted to continue on with what

(51:26):
the project was.
It was.
It was originally him, thehomie Alpha Memphis from Queens
and the homie Ray Clev from LA,and it was gonna be all three of
them on all those beats, butthe other two was going through
life and Johnny was just likeI'm still down.
But I had to ask him like yo, Ihaven't heard from anything in
a minute, like this is what'sgoing on, this is the update.

(51:47):
And he's just like, damn bro,he's like I'm still down.
And for him to continue on andbelieve in me, to sit there and
release that piece.
And we there and release thatpiece, and we pressed it up on
cassettes and sold out, and justto do that with my, my friend
that I've known for I would sitthere and say for eight years at
that moment, nine years at thatmoment, was amazing because I

(52:09):
was gonna scrap that whole thing.
You know, if that, if it didn'twork out like that, I don't know
if that would have allowed meto move into releasing music or
pressing music up, because afterthat I released the Girl, which
was the first beat tape Ireleased, and that was like the

(52:31):
same month.
So it just led to a dominoeffect of confidence Like, okay,
I could do this.
And I appreciate Brother Johnnyfor real.
That motherfucker sat there andwas like one of the first
individuals, mc-wise and justlike friend-wise, to really
believe in me and be like yo bro, let's do this.
You know the rest is history.

(52:52):
So that actually led into theproject with Joey Gordon.
If I didn't do that with Johnnybecause Joey was recording all
of Johnny's shit, it led intoRetrograde and Retrograde 2 with
Joey.
So Johnny's really like a hugefactor in a lot of his.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Yeah, I can see him in your orbit and as you've been
progressing over the years,he's definitely been the
mainstay um from the beginningthat's, that's still there, you
know, I mean and he's growingtoo so he's amazing.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
Honestly, I don't want to get too much into it,
but I remember having aconversation while I was tearing
up because he was talking aboutwanting to retire and that was
like a few years ago and I wasjust like, damn, bro, like
there's so much more to do, like.
But I was selfishly, like, inthe midst of moving forward,
like I'm seeing everything now,you know, but I'm newly creating
.
He's been doing this for a coolminute.

(53:47):
So when he sat there andoriginally, when he originally
said that I was tearing up andhe's just like, yeah, bro, like,
but I'm gonna still do musicand shit, like I'm going to be A
r and they're managing andhaving a label doing something,
but then sitting there andseeing him continue to move

(54:08):
forward to make music has beenamazing because, like he's an
amazing mc, he's a beautifulspirit, but he's a cold ass mc
and to sit there and see him goagainst what he was initially
feeling is is dope, because hedeserves it.
Like that album that he did withthank you amazing.
That that he did with Thank youamazing.
That shit that he does withJoey brother, joey Golden, the
joint amazing.
Like Joey Golden is another MC,a beautiful spirit, amazing,

(54:30):
and we just around some solidpeople.
So it makes planting theseseeds to add more to that
planting these seeds a loteasier Because it's like it's
family.
I don't think I've ever workedwith anybody that hasn't been
family.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Yeah, dope man Dom.
What about you yo?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, man, shout out to Johnny man.
But yeah, man, the question waslike what was the question?
Again, bro.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
The question is what, what seeds in your career, like
in your career right now, arebearing fruit for you right now
that's crazy, man.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Oh, because I've been through so much doing music,
like I did pretty much retirefor like seven years.
You know I'm saying like I gota whole fucking back catalog
that a lot of people do not evenknow about.
Like I'm talking about I wasrapping when I was 16, bro, I
was making mixtapes on myhomies' shit, burning them.
I had so many mixtapes.

(55:30):
The shit is nuts Like rappingover industry beats and all that
shit.
So I think, if I speak on that,that that showed me that I
could do this like because Ididn't even know where the game
was going.
I was literally a kid, likeliterally a kid, 17 years old,
hanging out with a bunch of likepeople in their 20s.
And you know, honestly, I wasin the streets running around

(55:52):
doing things I probablyshouldn't have been doing.
But when I realized that I havea place that I could record my
own music like at my own time, Iwas like, wow, I could do this.
You know, like I could do thisin tandem and I could be out
there with CDs instead.
You know I started likepeddling this shit and you know,

(56:12):
look at us now.
You know it's like a good 10,15 years later and shit.
But it's the same concept, it'sband camp, it's cassettes, it's
CDs, and I think that showed methat, even you know, all you
need is really a couple ofpeople in your corner to make it
happen.
You know, granted, at that timeI was ignorant.
I don't think those are theright people to be with, but now

(56:33):
I'm with the right people.
And now I got all thatexperience of of trying and and
failing, failing forward, um,and now it's bearing fruit.
Like you know that the albumsells itself, the we on podcast.
Now we play shows in differentstates.
There's people in japan thatbuy the album.
There's people in australiaspending our shit when they dj

(56:56):
um.
To me that's the fruit, it's,it's because it's so easy,
especially in music.
I feel like you know, I hearthis from a lot of artists like,
like they see something biggerhappening and coming and I'm
like I agree with you, you know,I agree with you, but there's
shit happening right now, like,like there's a lot to be

(57:16):
grateful for, there's a lot thatI never thought I would see
happen.
I never thought I'd see thelight of day that I play music
in what like eight states atthis point now.
Um, like, to me, that is a hugeaccomplishment in itself
because, like I said at onepoint, I was done with this shit
.
I was 29, I had my, my secondkid and I felt like man, I just

(57:36):
need to be a family man and Ineed to just have a career to
feed my family and that needs tobe it.
Um, and I really loved that Iwent through that.
I'm so grateful I went throughthat because I felt that voice
in the back of my head.
I felt like my soul inside,like no motherfucker, like write
, write a rhyme, write a rhyme,you know what I'm saying.

(57:58):
And like see if you still gotit.
And it's like, little by little, it's like okay, I still got it
.
You know, post a little video.
People like commenting it likecrazy.
It's like okay, I got it.
And it's just like anotherdomino effect, because I
remember I posted like afreestyle, rapping over a JA
Dilla beat.

(58:24):
I think it was the day afterthanksgiving or it's christmas
eve or something like two yearsago, and that was me still just
fucking around like I didn'treally want to make an album or
take myself serious at all, andthere came a few different
producers sliding my dms, likeyo, let me send you some beats,
and the next thing, you know, Iwas working on an album.
You know I'm saying, and thenone thing leads to the next, and
and it's just another album,and then it's just more
connections, and it's like yo,you want to play a show here?
Yo, yeah, and then you justkeep going and you keep going,

(58:46):
and it's a snowball effect, bro.
So everything you do counts inthis life, good or bad, and not
just music.
You know what I'm saying andthat's why I'm grateful, man.
I'm grateful for you know, forT-Dot, for people like you that
support me, that, that that showme I'm not tripping when I know
that, like I'm on to somethingwith this shit, like you know
what I'm saying, this isn't justall in my head, like it's real,

(59:07):
like I'm telling a real story.
My story matters.
Um, my story helps other peopletell their story and it helps

(59:27):
other people feel, okay, like,damn, I'm not the only father
that's stressed out, or I'm notthe only dude that's trying to
trying to balance being anartist, have a job, be a
boyfriend or a husband and afather like I'm not the only one
.
And yeah, not to go on atangent but I think that story
in itself is a very human storyand I think not only me, there's
, there's tons of other artistslike that.
Like you know, johnny is a very, a very human.
You know, like artist, like youlisten to his music.
He just talking about being ahuman.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Really, you know, I'm saying, and it's beautiful, man
, that part, yo yo, man, yo it'dbe.
It'd it be little like.
You know what I mean Before weget to this next track, man, it
be little moments that we all,every single one of us, can

(01:00:10):
point to and be like.
This is the moment where Ididn't quit, I didn't give up on
myself.
I mean, yes, I was trying totake care of business.
Be a man, be an honorable man,but then also be a creative man.
You know what I mean Be able toexpress myself.
You know what I mean Like.
For me, the podcast is musicFor y'all.

(01:00:32):
It's making beats, it's writingrhymes, it's connecting with,
you know, all these differentmutants around the world man
like what y'all doing with theLove Supreme man, and you know,
like Bong.
What's his name Bong, bong, bong.
Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, andBlack Eye 9, like you know, and

(01:00:56):
Dom, like what y'all, what y'alldid with this next track which
we're going to talk about.
But it'd be little moments, man.
Those little moments bedefining so much man.
That's why, when I'm likemaking decisions, I got to go do
it like what feels right.
Yo Like what feels right, notwhat like nobody else needs.

(01:01:17):
What feels right, not what likenobody else needs what feels
right, you know that's.
That's the only thing that youcan really hang your head on at
the end of the day, when you layyour head down and be like yo
did, I.
Did I make this decision forother people not to not inside
your own little circle, butother people outside or did you
make it for your family and foryourself?

(01:01:38):
You know, I'm saying, but man,I'm going, I'm yeah, but man I
appreciate all y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Man, I want to add, I want to add on to that one time
yes, sir, let's, let's go youmade me sit there and think
about just the totality ofeverything.
So like from 2017 to now, likethe resilience and that journey,
like I've spoken about in thein the previous interview with
my grandmother passing, my bestfriend passing and continue to

(01:02:03):
pursue I'm evicted livinghomeless, my family's homeless.
I'm doing my best to continueto take care of them.
I'm in an apartment, my mom'son drugs, you know to continue
to move forward to now I'm at aspace where I'm running a crib
myself.
My name got a new car.
I'm doing all this.
I made an album with my brotherlike in the seven years, eight

(01:02:24):
years span, to not give up,because there's always people
like yo, you could do thisyourself.
Leave your family, like, whyare you with them?
They make a mistake, yada, yada.
But to continue to trust myselfand understand it's not to them
.
Making mistakes is what I'mcapable of due to me honoring my
grandparents.
That was and what is what Ifeel like is the most impactful

(01:02:50):
seed I planted.
To continue to make musicthrough those times, you know,
to continue to believe in myselfthrough those times.
I need to trust in the path andnot disgrace what I feel like.
My mission is here.
So yeah, that's the biggest one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Man, because shout out to the abuelas I don't know
how you say grandpa abuelos-Abuelos, yeah, abuelos, abuelos,
yeah.
Shout out to you know what Imean.
Like my mama and my papa manand my grandma, francine man,

(01:03:29):
like she, like when I'm thinkingabout how I'm becoming a man
and what I'm doing right now,like I'm always thinking, like
in the back of my head, like yoam I making them proud?
Like, are they?
Are they?
Are they happy about the man Ibecame and I'm becoming?
And I ain't even done growingas a man?
So it's kind of like you know,I'm thinking about all the stuff

(01:03:51):
that they instilled in me too,all the stuff they instilled in
y'all, y'all taking that wisdomand then building your own life
with it, and then have them lookdown and say that's, that's my,
that's my me-hole being able tohonor their spirit as they

(01:04:15):
transition, instead of leavingit stagnant.

Speaker 6 (01:04:17):
You know it's still energy in motion, so what are we
going to do with it?
Um is me and don talked aboutit and god, we have this inside
joke and it's goku, because goku, when he was younger, he lost
his grandfather, but that's whatset him on his shit.
You know his hero's journeysuper, super Saiyan for God,

(01:04:38):
goku, you know what I'm sayingLike.
So that's another thing that wehave in common that we be
talking about.
It's like we both lost agrandparent.
That catapulted and getanchored the reasoning behind
who we are and why we do what wedo, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Yeah, there's always a always uh man.
Speaking of the hero's journey,man, I was thinking like
there's always a traumaticmoment, like a defining moment
that sets us on that hero'sjourney.
You know, I'm saying like if,if not, we would never get
pushed, we would never push, gotowards what we're supposed to
go towards.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
You know what I'm saying, so it had to take that
defining moment to push youtowards man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
It's crazy.
What's up y'all?

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
my family just popped up.
I got my woman, my kids in thebuilding what up y'all?

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
what up but yo, what's up, princess, what's up?
Hey, hello um dude, what's yourwoman's name?

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
my name.
My woman's name is brian, butshe goes by brema brema.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Oh, that's who we about.
That's what we're about to talkabout.
Um, wait, she is featured onthis album too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wegotta talk about that, you know,
thank you.
Thank you, brema.
Don't go far, man, we gottatalk to you, yo we gotta talk to
you we gotta talk to you, butuh, okay, so let me go.

(01:06:17):
But okay, so let me go tojournal entry.
Real quick.
I'm gonna skip around justbecause we've been talking on
some deep stuff, but it's needed.
Needed introspection Journalentry featuring and it's Uncle
Z's interview yeah, Uncle Z's.
Featuring Uncle Z's,co-produced by Black Guy 9, Bong

(01:06:41):
Bong Bagong that's a crazy name, you know and Dom Cruise man.
So we're going to play a littlesnippet of this joint and then
we're going to talk about thatjoint real quick, All right.
You can see the dynamism you cansee the passion, you can see
the personalityism you can seethe passion.

(01:07:01):
You can see the personality ofthe young man there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
They don't make them like that anymore.
Really, ever since I peeped theorder and the chaos, I've been
on my job.
Never would a day off.
It seems pretty clear to meAmerica is 8-0.
After World War II, we got paidoff Pyramid schemes from the
Mayans to the Madovs and BillieJean's jeans tryna take off.
The military got a hold.
Religion got our souls.
Twitter, tiktok, instagram ohshe do it for the likes.

(01:07:41):
I wanted it for life.
Wanna do a strength Temptationby the night.
Got a soulmate, not a wife.
Purity is my answer If youasking about my type.
Woo, real up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Yo man man got you got super deep on this joint man
, like for for for the internetsthat are listening and watching
this man, just know, when youbuy this album, man on um.
On bandcamp they included thelyrics to these, to these tracks
, maybe not not all of them, butthe main ones.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Actually, yeah, all my lyrics are on there.
Yeah, I didn't got nobodyelse's, but all mine are on
there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Yeah, so all the little lyrics on there, man.
When you said, you know, eversince I peeped the order through
the chaos, I've been on my jobnever with a day off, I felt
that because I felt like we beworking our ass off, man.
But then you said, you know, itseems pretty clear to me
America is Adolf.
After World War II we got paidoff, and then you go into the

(01:08:49):
pyramid schemes with the Mayansand the Madovs and you know all
of that type of stuff.
That track right there, man,and it's titled Journal entry
man.
Journal entry number one yeahhow did that come about, man?
You wrote these lyrics, um, andthen you got black guy nine,
bong, bong, bong and youproducing it, man.

(01:09:10):
So how did those lyrics comeabout, yo?

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
yo, that that, uh.
So I will say shout out toblack god, because if I'm not
mistaken, if I'm rememberingcorrectly, he said that sounds
like a journal entry and then wejust took it and ran with it.
So then, like, we made anothertrack.
We're like oh, that's part two.
We made another one.
That's like yo, that's partthree.
But, um, yeah, they made thatbeat bong bong.
Black god and t-dot made thatfirst part of the beat.

(01:09:37):
I co-produced the second partand yeah, they played that shit.
For me it's called some crazyshit, like they named it like
Bad Bunny Disco, some crazy shit.
And I was like, yo, I need thatBad Bunny, like that shit, that
shit is hard.
I wasn't with them that day.
I was supposed to be with thembut I didn't pull up and yeah,
that one just felt like kind oflike fun, like I was really just

(01:09:57):
trying to have fun and talksome shit.
I remember I wrote this shit.
It was real late at night.
I was selling outside ofsomebody's crib waiting for them
to open the door, and it wasreally honestly like some stream
of consciousness, shit, likelike just those things came to
me and they kind of justdeveloped into a story, because
the story that I'm really tryingto tell From the beginning is

(01:10:19):
just how, like the world, uh,shapes and influences our roles.
You know, so, like I feel, likeamerica, you know, like I said,
has got a lot of our, oursystems from like fucking,
what's that word?
I can't think of the fuckingword.
But whatever, fucking the nazisare those motherfuckers, that

(01:10:39):
type shit I feel like americahas developed this whole system
on that, and gender roles doplay a big part of that.
You know, like patriarchy andshit like that, where kind of
like what we've been talkingabout, a man needs to be a
certain way and a woman needs tobe a certain way.
So I know I start off likehella left field, talking about
Hitler and Mayans and shit, butI pretty much start easing into

(01:11:00):
like my role with my woman andhow we kind of we don't really
feed into that, like we do, butwe don't, you know.
So that's kind of the point ofthe journal entry.
It's like a stream ofconsciousness and I really
wanted to have fun with it, youknow, because I feel like I felt
the fun they had making thatbeat.

(01:11:20):
So that's why, you know, in thebeginning.
And then you got that liketongue in cheek, shit like shake
that ass, because I'm kind oflike just bringing it back to
having fun, like yeah, I'm goingto say some heavy shit.
No-transcript.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I think this is the trackwhere you were talking about
pouring into our women, rightLike pouring pouring nurturing
our women um exactly you knowhe's saying like pussy is power,
but the pussy ain't ours.
You know, I'm saying like yeah,because jay cole said that in
the track, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
He said pussy is power.
And I don't agree with thatshit, bro.
Like men have no control over awoman, like in that way, like
that's their power, right, youknow, I'm saying they can
hypnotize you with that shit,but your power is to you, your
power is you and how you liveand how you think and how you
move that shit ain't got nothingto do with you, bro yeah, yo

(01:12:35):
man, um man.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
I wish I could you know like that one is a um.
That's a minimalist beat too,man, it's yo.
I feel like a lot of the, a lotof the joints on this album are
minimalist beats, not notdisrespectfully or anything like
that, but there there's justenough instrumentation to where

(01:13:00):
you pay attention to the lyrics.
You can hear the lyrics.
They cut through, then you alsolisten to the instrumentation,
the beat underneath man, whichis a great balance to have.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
I love that.
I appreciate you.
It's.
How can I sit there and sayit's been amazing, because the
majority of these sessions hewas there for?
So it's beautiful to sit thereand have his way of sitting
there, saying stop, because I'llbe like I'll go overboard, I'll
sit there and not save a beat,I'll make five beats and none of

(01:13:33):
them matter.
So to be able to have someonenext to me, it was just like yo
bro, no, that's the one, that'sthe chops, that's the, that's
the groove, that's the.
You know it's helped a lotbecause, yeah, I'll be
overthinking shit a lot don'toverthink it, man.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Yo you did yo um man, I got um Yo man.
I wish I had the voice notethat I got from somebody that
was featured on here, but Imight play that for y'all later.
Let's talk about the Emperorand the Sage featuring Storm

(01:14:15):
Rouge.
Who is Storm Rouge?

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
first of all.
Yeah, storm Rouge, that's StormRouge first of all.
Yeah, storm Rouge, that's myhomie, she out in Atlanta, oh,
wow, you got that.
Yeah, she a dope singer man.
We just randomly startedtalking from my business page
from Roots to Realms.
I just saw her posting dopemusic and I was like yo, you got
good taste.
And then we just startedtalking and she started telling

(01:14:44):
me she sings and shit and um,when the time came, when that
track was like starting to be tofeel more complete, I was like
I know, I want a, a female voiceto compliment me.
So she was the first person Ireached out to and yeah, she did
a thing.
Um, that's also another track,that's kind of like an alternate
version, like she's likethere's another version with her
on the outro instead of me.

(01:15:04):
But yeah, we just rearrangedsome things.
But yeah, she did her thing.
Man, shout out to Storm man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
Yeah, so we're going to play a little snippet of the
Emperor and the Sage and justtalk about that title first of
all.
We're gonna talk about thattitle, but let me get, let's get
into, uh, the emperor and thesage real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
I like the wind, I like the clouds, I like the
greatest mage in America.
Sir, you didn't see the end ofthe score, you didn't see the

(01:15:45):
future.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
You were better than us.
You were the biggest, betterthan us, mad one from the
horizon.
Another tool on the belt ofOrion, another ring on the
planet of Iam this, your brainon drugs.

(01:16:07):
Fresh out the frying pan.
Up a fire in my environment,provide, provide for many,
though, some say I'm a line man.
Speak, kill on me.
The words down in yourdiaphragm.
Stop crying, fam.
It's just black magic in hisdiagram.
Kings and diamonds in my eyesand deja vu came through.
Paid my dues, allowance facingtime to shake my groove.
Space and time to shape mygroove.

(01:16:28):
Woo yo.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
I see I can't, even I can't play the whole thing
because they got y'all gotta gobuy the album, man, if you wanna
listen to the rest of what Domwas saying and hear Storm Ruth,
but just yeah, I gotta, I wannaum, man.
I wish I could fast forwardthis just to hear her voice, man

(01:16:53):
, because when she comes in youknow what she say.
She was saying summer, spring,summer fall.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yeah, winter spring, summer fall.
Summer winter, summer fall yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Yeah, I was like yo, that's dope man.
Like, how did like yo, that'sdope man.
Like how did, like the emperorand the sage man, talk about
that title real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Yeah, man, it's, since we produced that joint
together it's not the only jointwe produced together, but, um,
the first part of that beat,because I believe that beat has
uh like um, the first part ofthat, because I believe that b
has uh like three sides to it.
Um, when I wrote that firstpart, it wasn't like, oh, I'm
gonna sit down and write a songabout like me and t-dot, but

(01:17:41):
there's like a lot of like, uhlike inside things, like if you
know, you know, you know I'msaying like mad one from the
horizon, that's what t-dotalways says.
So it's like I start the verseoff like that.
So it's like just shouting themout in a subtle way.
Um, and then there's otherthings scattered throughout the
song.
Well, I'm kind of just sayingthings that like we speak about.
So he like another thing islike he always says like sage

(01:18:04):
travels.
So I just I just picked, I justpicked that name, you know?
Know what I'm saying.
The next line, before you cutit off, is ride with an emperor,
take your time with his temper.
So it's kind of like all right,I'll play the role of the
emperor or whatever.
T-dot is the sage and that'swhat this track represents.
It's kind of like who we arevery loosely.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
You know what I'm saying I like that, I like that,
yo, yo, I appreciate it.
Internets man, y'all gettingbehind the scenes on this album.
A Happy Home, h-o-h-m man.
So no, you're only getting onetrack.
I think it's one track on DSPs,your digital streaming

(01:18:47):
platforms.
You've got to come to Bandcampand support your whole album,
but you ain't getting none of it.
I think you get two you canlisten to, like two joints on
Bandcamp before they cut you off.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
No, I think it's like three or four, bro, but still,
yeah, is it three or four?
I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
I saw two.
I hope so, I think so I think.
So, yeah, man, I thought I sawtwo, but either way I'm gonna
support this album, man, becauseyou want to hear more, man, you
want to hear what we're talkingabout, like we, we only
touching on little bits of whatthis album is, man, like yes,
it's behind the scenes and allthe individuals that are

(01:19:27):
involved, and stuff like that.
But yo, um, another anotherjoint I want to talk, talk about
is another, you know, likestandout track.
It's called flowers, man, whichis a beat breaker.
Y'all have a video um onyoutube, man, and once this,
once this comes out, I'm gonnalink that, that video, so
everybody can tap into it.

(01:19:48):
Um, there's also a documentaryabout a happy home as well, man.
So there's the documentary um,where it's the pre-re I think
it's the release party, dom'sbirthday, but then it's also
another documentary um, I can'tremember that second, second

(01:20:08):
part of the documentary, but um,it might be some shows.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Yeah, maybe I was playing some shows, recording
some stuff yeah, um, and then Ithink it's black guy.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
Nice he's.
He's the one behind the camerafollowing y'all yeah, yeah,
shout out to black guy nine manhis photography, and you know I
mean video.
What do you call thatvideographer skills?
Yeah, yo, but flowers, man,we're gonna talk.
We're gonna listen to a littlesnippet of flowers, um, and then

(01:20:39):
talk about that as well, man, Ilove that.
Right there, man, yo, we'll beright back.
Man, let's listen to take asnippet of flowers real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Are you sitting there ?

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
You better put us on mute.
You better put us on mutelonger.
I could roll alone, got missedmessages, calls, alerts in my
mobile phone.
There's no space for the oldways.
I've overgrown me myself and Iintroverts no zone.
I feel it in my corosomes,chromosomes.
Sitting in a silhouette, mixingemotions with machines like a
gigapet.

(01:21:22):
Plastic cup empty I ain't evenpoured a liquor yet, dwelling on
predicaments, stress on myligaments, wondering if it's
meant for me, why I ain't get ityet.
Maybe it's all mine.
This isn't how I envisioned it.
A year from now we'll see ifI'm an idiom or idiot.
Never falling on bending kneesfall back.
Take ten of these family tree.

(01:21:43):
Got secrets like Genovese,blocked it out.
No storage in my memory,blocked it out.
No storage in my memory.
Never falling on bending kneesFall back.
Take ten of these Family tree.
Got secrets like Genovese,blocked it out.
No storage in my memories.
Seen stranger things than thisworld in reverse.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
Woo, I wanted to say that next verse, but I mean that
next line.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
but we ain't giving it to you.
Y'all gotta buy the album youwanna listen to the rest of it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
Yo listen, man, that sample, that sample, but then
also like what you saying, domis.
Yo let me go to the lyrics, man, real quick, he said, even
though I came.
See, I'm saying it like yousaid it, man.

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
Go ahead bro.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
Go for it, bro.
He said.
Even though I came to thisworld, I'm rolling stone.
I don't know how much longer Ican roll alone.
I miss messages, call alerts inmy mobile phone.
There's no space for the oldways I've overgrown Yo.

Speaker 6 (01:22:55):
I need myself introverts.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
I feel that because I'm an intro, you know what I'm
saying.
I feel that, bro man, thegigapet, like the Netflix, you
know what I mean.
And I only know about that showbecause my girl's watching now,
so I know.
And when you said that, I waslike, oh, he's talking about, oh
, so yo, let's talk aboutFlowers, man, which is one of

(01:23:20):
the dope standout tracks forthis album.
Man.
Y'all got the video on YouTube.
Man Should be blasting.
It should have way more viewsthan what it's got right now,
but we're going to get it upthere, you know.
Talk about Flowers and how thatcame about, man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Yeah, I don't know if T-Dawg look busy.
You want to speak on it bro?

Speaker 6 (01:23:42):
He having a good old time you know what was the
question about man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
Flowers, man.
How did Flowers come about?
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
It was the question my man flowers, man, how did
flowers come about, man?
Um, it was a depressing day onmy end, like I was.
It was december 24th, so it waschristmas eve.
My, my family came over and Iwas sitting there attempting to
celebrate something for them,because I don't like the
holidays and end up beingsomething that turned against me
.
So then Dom ended up picking meup and we ended up just picking

(01:24:13):
it.
He ended up allowing me to.
Why did he pick me up?
He ended up allowing me to be apart of his evening with Miss
Tanya and we made music forHappy Home and we were sampling
his records, and I don'tremember what record it was that
we sampled.
Do you remember what it was,dom?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
No sample session.
Don't even give it to him yo.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I don't know what record it is, but it wasn't from
our records.
We sampled a few shits from ourrecords.
We sampled some Sunrise shit.
I remember that and the shitwas crazy.
It was bugged out.
But yeah, like he said, he justthrew it out, like he just
scrapped it, um, and then hethink I believe he made another
one, scrapped that one, and thenwhen he made that I know the

(01:25:00):
sample but I'm not gonna snitchhe told me I didn't even
remember that he used that beat,but it has been sampled a lot
and he I feel like he fucked itup, like completely compared to
what other people have done, ina good way, obviously, and uh.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
What is it Dead President 1?
.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Nah, it is.
Uh, Jay-Z has rapped over thatsample.
I'll say that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
But um, you got the internet.
The internet's about to whatJay-Z sample?
Which one, which one?

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Yeah, well, whatever who produced for him did, but
yeah when he made that one, Iwas like all right bro, that's
it, no more throwing away beatslike, keep this shit.
And uh, yeah, he was trippingbecause he felt like it was too
simple or whatever you know, andI was like, nah, bro, like this
has a lot of feeling to it,like, yeah, she made me want to
cry, yeah, yeah yeah, mydaughter be around the house
singing that part right there yo, my son too, bro my

(01:25:54):
one-year-oldbe singing that shit, because,
uh, I've played that jointaround him a couple times, like
watching the video, whatever helike does, like his reaction to
it, because you know he ain'treally talking enough and he's
like i'm'm just like all right,let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
He got the cosign from the one-year-old yeah, I
was thinking yeah, yeah, yeah,nah, for real.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
Nah, he ain't lying.
That's the reason why we do thedrums under it.
The drums is some jazz shitthat I took.
I don't even know where I tookit, but I took some jazz drums
and then added an extra kickunder them shits to emphasize a
little bit more.
And yeah, it's pretty muchthree-track, four-track beat,
like that shit.

(01:26:37):
It felt easy.
That's the reason why I waslike I don't know.
But then Dom was just like, yeah, he was fed up, and rightfully
so.
I get it Like I was not havingmy best day.
I was having a real shitty daybecause, like I really was doing
my best to sit there and setsomething up for my family.
So when, like I said, when Donpicked me up, it was really him
being there for me as a friend.

(01:26:58):
It was just like yo, let me sitthere and help you feel better
and we made music and that cameout of it.
Like I feel like that is thescore of the journey, at least
for myself.
I don't want to speak for Dom,but now that I sit there and
think about life, that recordcould get played throughout the
whole 33 years that I've livedand I'd be like that shit makes

(01:27:22):
sense.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
That shit makes mad sense.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Yeah, nah, I feel that too.
Man, yeah, that's a dope,that's a dope joint man.
That's, that's a dope joint manwith my 11 year old.
Just randomly be like yo putthat strong on where it's like
that's dope bro, that's helladope bro.
Thank you yeah man, um man.
Last time I checked I was theman up in this bitch.

(01:27:50):
Let's talk.
We're going to play 1000 G'sfeaturing Pilla.
Who is Pilla?
And can you plug whoever?
That is like socials, Becausewhat they were rapping on was
dope too.

Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
It's the homie.
Pilla Pilla and rest in peace.
Like he's no longer with us.
He's my best friend that passedaway in 2017.
So I took that verse from aprevious record.
If I'm correct, it's the lastrecord he ever did before

(01:28:27):
passing, and it was produced byhis brother, skyhudge and I
ended up taking that verse offof Thin Separation and adding
that to this record because,first and foremost like that's
my mans, like he believed in me,not like he believed in me
before a lot of people believedin me, but not only that, he

(01:28:48):
before a lot of people believedin me, but not only that he was
a real cold-ass dude.
He was the epitome offearlessness.
So to be able to honor him onthis project through Brothers
Dom's approval due to hisrelationship with his cousin, it
was a mutual thing.
I don't know it had me feelinggood, because I've made other
remixes with his verses, but tobe able to have this live on

(01:29:12):
something meaningful andeverything he says, bro, he did
it.
3 am poked out.
Yeah, bro, he was no joke, buthe was also the individual in my
life that pushed us me and thehomies, ray Clev and Kevin

(01:29:34):
Jerome to believe in ourselves,because he always believed in
himself, but he believed in us.
So he was like yo, I'm aroundy'all.
I wanted to honor him in thatsense.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Yo rest in peace to Pila man Yo.
We thank you for yourcontribution, man and yo yo real
quick man, we're gonna play alittle snippet, but this is
another standout track too.
Dog like bruh.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
All right, hold on, man yo like, if I can add this
to my um, cause I gotta, I gottacreate.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
I'm creating playlists on Bandcamp right now.
So, yeah, this is like my, thisis like my, like my rah-rah,
like when I'm, you know, aboutto go, anyway, all right, let me
play this real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
Let's go.
Yeah, I love you, pillar, I'mnot fucking with you.

(01:30:44):
Tell me, else, man, I wasplugged in way before I heard of
record deals.
I used to pop a Xanny just todream about a quarter mil.
Fez is on this.
Now we gotta put our dreams upon the shelf.
They shuttin' out accounts,bank accounts down, and now we
movin' out, had to switch cities.
Too many Niggas know mywhereabouts.
Drivin' up to five Can't drip,and all my left nostril six
burners with me Ten pounds inthat fuckin' Audi.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
I hit a hundred, like it ain't 307 in the morning,
cuz I'm locked up.
I can't pull up on that fuckin'corner 13 bands really.
So you know.
I went and switched the forms,hit my deuce for them, dropped
some racks and then I kept itgoing.
Last time I checked, I was theman up in this bitch.
Had the grams up in this bitch.
I was the man up in this bitch.

(01:31:27):
Had the grams up in this bitchPlus a pineapple fit.
Karate, chop half a pound whiletap dancing on a brick.

(01:31:48):
Got cash, but poppy gonnaadvance me for this trip.
Just wanted fresh kicks.
Had no plans of getting rich.
Teenage years was a menace,hosted by the building, pitching
to the tenants, no respect forteachers, elders or lieutenants.
In my 20s got a little betterunderstanding little higher.
Can't catch no major cases,cause I caught one as a minor.
Started rhymin' more.

(01:32:09):
Kept it playin' with MateoDanny and Cousin Brian.
We was flyin' on the MySpace,facebook Grind.
Started sellin' merch.
My love for the music Startedexcellin' sellin' work.
Now I'm in my thirties withthree C's up under me, couple
homies underneath.
May we heal the wound Fromthese troubled streets.
Pour a little bubbly For thecar, like yo, bruh, bruh, oh man
yo, I'll be.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
I'll be in the car, like yo last time I checked I
was the man of the life that'sthe point, bro.
That's the fucking point yo manshout out to y'all for making
this joke, man, like that's somereal stuff, like you know what
you were going through at thattime, but then showing growth.

(01:33:14):
Yo man, it's a.
It's a, it's a street record.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
It's a street record.
Yeah, A hundred percent but.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
But it's but it's a dope, like a thousand G's man
featuring Peele man.
Like who produced?
Who produced that?
And then like your flow on thatDom, like Peele's got his flow,
but your flow I feel like youswitched it up, like like maybe
halfway I caught that yo talkabout.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Talk about that yeah uh, t-dog produced that man like
he.
You know that was another jointwe did on my crib.
Um, I remember when he poppedup, like yo, I got the drums I
want to use for the record withpillow, because that was a
little bit, uh, premeditated,you know like we spoke about it,
like you know if it was coolwith him, like obviously I asked
premeditated.
You know like we spoke about it, like you know if it was cool
with him, like obviously I askedhis permission.

(01:34:13):
Like you know, let's throw yourhomie that believed in you,
that you know one of your bestfriends from your past.
Let's do something like that tolike honor him and shit.
And uh, once we like agreed,that's something we want to try
to do.
Uh, he found those drums andthen he was just playing the
drums and yeah, he just fuckingwith the samples and shit, um,

(01:34:34):
once we, once we played thatsample.
I think you know he justcleaned it up a little and yeah,
it's just like off to the racesto that shit.
Like, once you, once you hearhis verse on that shit, like,
honestly, that shit could havebeen its own thing.
Um, you know, I'm saying like Ididn't even need to be on it.
But yeah, you know what I'msaying.
We went crazy with it.

(01:34:54):
Like I had to just match thatenergy.
Like it's just very vividstorytelling, with the coke
hanging out at the left nostriland shit, like when I heard that
shit when we was trying to picka verse, I was like that's the
fucking verse I want, uh,because I love like vivid shit,
like that.
You know that it's like you hadto be living it to say that
shit.

(01:35:15):
Um, so yeah, I just I justmatched the energy.
You know, I just talked aboutthings that I've been through
that are similar and, um, yeah,man, that's one of my favorite
joints too.
That's a lot of people'sfavorite joints.
Honestly, a lot of people havetold me that's their favorite
song man yeah, it's definitelyone of them.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
Ones man it's definitely one of them.
Ones, man.
And then there's, you know, aswe talk about um, oh, as a
matter of fact, t dot see thatum like the drums on that like

(01:35:59):
oh, it's, it's like this.
This is the swingy like ah,it's like it's so, like lazy
chop type, like it's so dope man.

Speaker 6 (01:36:07):
So it.
The original drum loop camefrom a pack.
I don't remember the name.
I'm sorry, I'm not really goodat this shit you ain't gotta
worry about it I chopped it upwhen I was actually in a session
with brother bernard topryfrank, it was me, frank, galaxy
and black god and I was choppingup these drums and we made a
whole different beat over thatshit.

(01:36:28):
That's another beat that Iplayed for dom and I was just
like this shit is the reference,but I was like I gotta make it
real, real dirty, though.
That's why I changed the wholesample and re-chopped it.
But those drums came fromanother session and I'll see so,
um, yeah, nah, it was pre,-meditated, like Dom said.

(01:36:49):
Thank you, never mind D, it waspremeditated.
So I told Dom I had a specificidea, just like I do with
Journal Entry 3, which isanother record, the bonus record
, but it was something that Ineeded.
It hit hard because how hisverse was so I didn't want to

(01:37:11):
sit there and program something.
I didn't want to sit there andprogram something that felt big.
It was just like when I heardthose joints and I chopped them.
I just fit that record soperfectly.
We already found that versebefore I laid the drums.
That verse was sat on for liketwo weeks, three weeks, before I
came across those drums and themost I just did was the most I

(01:37:34):
did.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Dope man.
Wow, that's it yo, that'sdefinitely damn.
Y'all gonna make a video forthis one, yet we did already
Wait.

Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
is this video up for this?
This?

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
dumb.
Yeah, there's a video for this.
Yeah, there's a video for it oh, I'm tripping yes, it's on the
love supreme youtube channel I'mtripping, okay, yeah, I gotta
go.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
I gotta go plug that one man like wow, like wow, okay
, no fucking black guys outthere and shot and edited it.

Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
It was in front of my house, we used my car and we
used his car.
My little brother was drivingone car and my sister-in-law was
driving the other car and wentlike I'm sitting on it playing
the beat off of the SP, and thenDom's walking along the car and
it's just like like shot andedited, chopped and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Uh-oh.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Shout out to Black Eye 9, man, yo Yo, his yo.
Okay, man, last two joints I'mgoing to play before I let y'all
go.
Man, we got to talk abouttribal chains.
Yeah, all man.
We got to talk about TribalChiefs.
All right, we got to talk aboutTribal.
I can't let y'all go withouttalking about Tribal Chiefs,

(01:38:56):
featuring Jonathan Unitas,godbody, nadi Dio, the Soul, and
co-produced by well, producedby T-Dot, co-produced by Dom
well, produced by T-Dot,co-produced by Dom Cruise and
Black Guy 9.
Like man, I can't even play allfive minutes and 46 seconds.
You know, I may give them aminute.

(01:39:19):
Yeah, I may give them a minuteand let's see what happens.
Yeah, all right, but Iguarantee they're going to be
like yeah, let me go get thisalbum, man.
All right, let's listen to Tribchiefs.
Okay, we're gonna talk aboutthis when I come back we look at
the four directions.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
The four directions have each one has a gift over
the need our ancestors thoughtit has to be, a need for special
powers.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Yeah, seven, seven, seven.
Look who died and resurrected.
Blood sacrificed for theancestors and the ancestors.
Time traveling, mind unraveling.
Hit them with the spear, leavethey heart on a javelin.
Put your ones up to drive achief from the rains.
I could go for days.
Ho, you don't know my pain Inthe studio.
40 nights, 40 days.
My mind too advanced.

(01:40:09):
All you do is grow and age.
30 pull-ups on the ball tryingto mold the rage.
My story never finished.
Better go pull the page.
Leave a bookmark.
Yeah, he book smart.
Put him in the kitchen with thePyrex.
He cook smart.
Got fam.
That's ignorant.
And they still hustling 10bones in Carl Hart.
They don't do construction,brothers of destruction.
They put you under for takingthe cane.

(01:40:30):
Hell on earth.
That's why we love making itrain.
Huh, accepting my duality, I'mspitting signs that make you
evaluate reality, know how topenetrate the subconscious
through mantras.
Signs of dumb trauma.
Words cut deep.
Fuck.
Armor.
Butterfly effect.
Went back in time and snuffedproper.
Before he nutted, mama saidcome harder, change the
narrative, never comparisonkings and queens, rations and

(01:40:53):
pawns.
It's embarrassing with a facepalm.
This is Nate Palm, eight pawnsand a poem on my hand.
I hate y'all, the archetype andarchitect and doctor.
Like the sun, I'm set to findthe boss, the chosen one, so
come correct mission driven,navigating right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Love it or you hate it, that's the game of life.

Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
Do I fuck it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
if you blow it still must toss the dice.
Niggas, fuck, can't afford it.
Always pay the price.
Man is backwards.
Too much flexibility Playaround.
They deny your capability.
Oh no, now you in a limbo sliceof life, backyard pinball knock
the eyes out of your skull.
360, full, safe, 2020 hindsight.

(01:41:36):
The world is out.
I pray to god you make it hometonight that joint is bananas
man yeah wow, wow, yo, andthat's.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
That's only one minute in, like one minute and
maybe 20 something seconds in.
We didn't even we didn't get tothe.
Oh, it's my turn, oh, it's myturn.
And then I don't know who thatwas, but they go, man.
Yeah, tribal Chiefs.
Man, how did this posse trackcome about, man?

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
oh man, um, I know we definitely.
It was another one of thoselike early sessions where we're
kind of like brains,brainstorming more than anything
and just having conversations.
I remember we were talkingabout just like posse cuts and
I'm not saying that itnecessarily 100 went away, but
we kind of spoke about how, likethat, that was more of a thing

(01:42:34):
back in the day.
You know, I remember vividlylistening to like a lot of posse
cuts growing up, likerockefeller rough riders and all
them.
So we was like you know, we gotto try to do something like
that and you know we definitelylike tabled ideas of who we
wanted to be a part.
There was a lot of names wediscussed and yeah, we didn't

(01:42:55):
have the beat yet and I thinksoon after we made that beat
because we all made thattogether T-Dot on the drums,
that woman singing in and outthat sample was me and I think
Black God kind of just likearranged everything and made it
all clean.
Once we made that track we werelike, yeah, this is the posse
cut, you know, and there's liketwo sides to it, like a, side A,

(01:43:18):
side B.
So we decided we was going toalternate it in.
You know, you rap on side A,you rap on side B and, yeah,
everybody killed it man, and I'mreally happy with who it came
out to be because it really isjust a Love Supreme song at that
point.
You know everybody in it ispretty much Love Supreme man yo.

Speaker 4 (01:43:39):
That joint is bananas man Wow.
Yeah, you right yo, like PosseCut Stig used to be at that.
I was a big Rough Rider headtoo, man, so I had the bandana
you know I went to the hardwarestore to go get the dmx chain.
You know, I'm saying like I was, I was all in man, but you know
, but yo man oh man I love thattrack man tribal cheese.

(01:44:07):
That's a dope name too, um,tribal cheese.
Let's talk about um, oh man, Ilove that track man Tribal
Cheese.
That's a dope name too, tribalCheese.
Let's talk about Spring Equinox.
For the digital people, that'sthe last track that they'll hear
if they don't get a physicalcopy right.
So, spring Equinox.

(01:44:33):
Let me tell you something, man.
It really feels like.
It really feels like spring man.
Let me get to my notes manbecause, Let me see.
Oh, man, when you were talkingabout the metaphors in the track
right, so you were talkingabout God particles, high
consciousness you know feelingtransformative.

(01:45:00):
Man like you asked what'ssomething that they can trust,
right, how does trust play intothe album's overarching message.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
You wanna, you wanna, answer that bro nah go ahead,
you go first.
I went first last time nah bro,I just did a whole tribal
chiefs.
I did tribal chiefs.

Speaker 6 (01:45:26):
I did tribal chiefs.
Okay, okay, alright.
What was the question again?
So the question Tower of Tears?
I didn't know, tower of Tears.
Okay, okay, all right.
What was the question again?
So?

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
the question.
So for Spring Equinox, you knowwhen they were talking about,
Dom was talking about.
You know, god particles highconsciousness you know, feeling
transformative and then I thinkDom asked what's something they
can trust.

Speaker 6 (01:45:58):
How does trust play into the album's overarching
message?
I love you, baby.
Um.
I think trust is a big partwithin the overall message,
because I think that's the meansof being a man.
It's like, at the end of the,all we are looking for is a
means of trust or a safe spaceto be able to emote quote
unquote Like be able to shareemotion.
So I feel like trust is thefoundation of everything, at

(01:46:22):
least for me.
Like within the majority of myrelationships, the reason why
they blossom is due to themtrusting in who I am, regardless
of making mistakes.
Like I am a human being, Iallow them to be a human being,
but yet we're able to cometogether and still move forward
to create something bigger thanjust ourselves.
You know and I think that sitsthere and relates within family

(01:46:46):
too Like my woman trusts me tosit there and solve a lot of
things that are transpiringwithin our life, within family
too.
Like my woman trusts me to sitthere and solve a lot of things
within a lot of things that aretranspiring within our life, or
hiccups that might be presented.
It's not that I'm only bearingthat responsibility, I can lean
on her anytime, but even thatmeans of being able to be
trusted, to be able to like letme see what you got and then, if

(01:47:07):
you need me, I'm here you know,sometimes all it is.
That's what it is.
It's just like you just need ahug, you just need someone to
sit there and be like.
I got you, just in case you'renot able to take care of it.
You know, here I got you on the, the rest of the fourth that's
needed, the rest of the thirdthat's needed.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
So, yeah, for me, trust is a main thing man, dom,
when you were talking about um,you said I don't know if I'm
enough.
We say I don't know if I'menough.
I just hope they feel the love.
All these years in the mud,shedding tears in the sun,
playing seed, smoking bun,pouring liquor for the ones man,

(01:47:47):
like that's a real, that's areal emotion, man, I really felt
.
I really felt that because youknow that's some sometimes like
I be man, I'm gonna get personal.
Sometimes I do be feeling likeI ain't enough.
Like what I do ain't enough.
You know, like as a man, Ithink you know all men probably

(01:48:10):
feel like that, but you knowit's.
That's one of the strongemotions.
But when you were, as we weregoing through the whole song, I
had to run that back like 10times, like you know, when you
said a pessimist at heart.
Look at how the pot is twisted.
Take the pot and twist it.

(01:48:32):
This is modern hieroglyphics.
Other rappers got bricks, butI'm the one you run the bill
with.
But you know, talk about yourlyrics on this show man, and you
know those parts of that.
You know, like God is notoutside of us.
You know what?

Speaker 6 (01:48:52):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
Which is true.
Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, shoutout to T-Dot Like that beat is
amazing.
It makes you feel like it feelsvery triumphant to me.
So I knew I had a feeling itwas something that I would want
to be Like, kind of like anoutro kind of feeling.
And I really wanted to be like,kind of like an outro kind of

(01:49:13):
feeling and I really wanted tojust like put it all out there,
like leave it all on the line,type shit.
You know what I'm sayingBecause, like, for example, we
got Tribal Chiefs where it'sjust bars.
We got 1000 G's where it's likethe street record.
You know if we got to definethese things.
So Spring Equinox had to be liketo me vulnerability for just me
in totality as a whole person.
So, you know, I don't know ifI'm enough.

(01:49:35):
You know that applies to allaspects of my life.
Like there's music.
You know I say they wantsomeone they can trust.
I don't know if I'm enough.
Like you know, when we talkabout like artists or someone to
look up to, you know, orfatherhood or being a leader,
like I do have those thoughtsand those feelings sometimes too

(01:49:55):
, just like you said, you know,like many of us have, like I
don't know if I'm enough, um,but I just hope they feel the
love Cause.
At the end of the day, whetheryou know you, as long as you got
love in your heart, like that,that's really what matters.
So I just hope they feel thelove.
All these years in the mud, likeI'm just bringing it everything

(01:50:15):
full circle.
You know, this is everythingI've been through all the years
in the mud, playing sea, smokingbud, pouring liquor for the
ones.
Rest in peace.
You know, just get a moment andthen just get right back into
it.
And a happy home name in itselfis kind of like.
It's kind of like a invertedmeaning.

(01:50:36):
You know what I'm sayingBecause, like, even though it's
called a happy home, there's alot of records that ain't got
shit to do with happiness andthat's kind of the, that's kind
of the point what I say when Isay that.
A pessimist to like, look athow the plot is twisted.
That's kind of what I'm tryingto say.
Take the plot and twist it.
This is modern hieroglyphics,kind of a double entendre,

(01:50:57):
because obviously hieroglyphicsfrom like Egyptian shit, but
then also the rap grouphieroglyphics, because again,
terrence has compared us to likethe hieroglyphic group.
So it's double entendre.
The hieroglyphs hieroglyphicgroup.
So it's double entendre.
Um, modern hieroglyphics.
Uh, what the fuck did I sayafter that?
But yeah, man, I was just.
I was just trying to go in, bro, I was just trying to like

(01:51:18):
really paint a vivid, vividpicture and like leave, leave on
a high note, and then we gotall the people speaking.
You know, after all thesepeople like a lot of homies, um,
that just threw some, somewords out there, to to kind of
double back and double down onthat meaning of like family and
community and shit, like theyeah man, um, that joint is that

(01:51:43):
joint.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
So I ain't even playing yet, but I was supposed
to play that and then ask youall the questions.
But you, you know whatSomething just popped in my
brain right now when you weretalking about, you know, like
the street records and theopening, I feel like this record
represents every single seasonthat we have.

(01:52:04):
So, like you got, what is itlike summer?
like you know, spring,summertime, you, know fall
wintertime where everything isjust you know what I mean, like
cold, grimy, you know what Imean.
And then it comes back intospringtime, like that's the
point.
Did I catch that?

(01:52:24):
Did I catch that right?

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
That's the point I didn't.
You know there's so manyconcepts and themes, it's kind
of hard to like make them allclear without just like making
it a mess.
But yeah, you know, like what alot of the soundscapes like
tdaw works with, like they'relike very warm and shit.
So like we started off withpeace.
Peace, like I said in thebeginning, like it's welcoming

(01:52:46):
you to the house, welcoming youto the environment.
So to me that was kind of likespring and then we, we kind of
get warmer you know we're likeemperor in this age it's like
summer and then we get dark andgrimy, with flowers and uh,
tribal cheese, and then it comesright back to to spring again,
to end, to end it all off.
You know it's like youexperience the full spectrum,

(01:53:06):
all seasons.

Speaker 6 (01:53:08):
Yeah, man, that beat.
That beat that was made in thesame session as Journal Entry 1.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
I'm gonna play a snippet of the Spring Equinox
real quick and then come backand we gonna round it out for
y'all fellas, All right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Nah most of all I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
Thank you, apartment 3D that's where it all started
at Playing with the God particle.
You don't want no parts of that.
I talk about the universe,cause I'm really all of that In
another space and time.
These palms are an artifact.
It's been three years sinceI've been seen with a super-tied
rocket brain.
My fam's asking who am I?
Please don't scrutinize.

(01:54:08):
We open, institutionalized.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Please don't shoot the blind.
I'm aiming at the president.
Whoever else tryna rule my mind.
Brian, free from doing time.
I'll hardly pick up the phone.
It may ruin my vibe.
I'm locked up inside dawg.
I'm still doing my time Knottedup.
Healing.
It is not enough.
God is not outside of us.

(01:54:29):
Park the whip, let's ride thebus.
I'm on a high.
I gots to rush for the peoplewhat they want, want something
they can touch, want someonethey can trust.
I don't know if I'm enough.
All these years in the mud,shedding tears in the sun,
planting seeds, smoking blood,pouring liquor for the ones.
Rest in peace done.
A happy home just means that weis optimistic, a pessimist at

(01:54:54):
heart.
Look at how the plot is twisted.
Other rappers got bricks, butI'm the one you build with.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
I wish I was DJing right now, because then I'll
just let it ride.

(01:55:24):
But I can't man, because I gotto support the album.
Go get a happy home on Bandcamp.
Don't just buy the digital, buythe physical.
They got series and y'all gotcassette still.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
Yeah, we got a few left.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
Yeah, y'all got a few left man, so yay, I don't know
if they're doing another run Idon't even want them to do
another run, because this is,this is man this album man.
Man this album is to be felt,man.
Like not just rush through, notskip around, you know, not do

(01:56:03):
all of that crazy stuff thaty'all do with the mainstream
albums, like yo, literally putthis in, sit your ass down and
press play and just chill.
Yo Just listen, man, and you'regoing to feel something, man.
You're definitely going to feelsomething, man, yo man.
Thank you bro.

Speaker 6 (01:56:24):
That's one of the main things within my music.
I want people to feel again,you know, because I feel a lot.
I'm a very emotional individual.
I want to really stand in that.
Like I love emotions they helpme guide myself through life
like understanding the claritywithin where things are rooted.
So like being able to stand inthat and allowing, like not even

(01:56:48):
allowing I want to force peopleto feel this shit.
Feel it, feel uncomfortable,feel good, feel great, Feel
enjoyable, feel like damn, I gotto do better.
You know, like the abso-joint,like got to do better.
Like that's what I want mymusic to feel about all the time
.
Like feel again, you know,because I feel like that's
something that we do lack as asociety.
You know, because I feel likethat's something that we do lack

(01:57:09):
as a society is to sit thereand feel Again we numb ourselves
.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Let me just give the internets a description of this
album, real quick man.
Just so once they get donelistening to this, they go and
support this album on Bandcamp.
Man, a Happy Home is a sonicLet me get my deep voice.
It's a sonic odyssey based oninterpersonal relationships,

(01:57:35):
healing, radical acceptance,truth and so much more.
Conceptualized and created byDom Cruz and TI, the album
touches on all emotions andsonically provides the same
range.
All emotions and sonicallyprovides the same range.
The album covers paint palettedesigned by Jacqueline Soledad

(01:57:55):
represents this wide range ofsound and emotion, from the
meditative opener piece piece tothe conclusion wild wings you
are guaranteed to feel nod yourhead.
Wings you are guaranteed tofeel nod your head.

(01:58:18):
Rage and so much more.
Welcome to a happy home fellas,yo man man.
Yo, I wish I could play, butlike I, said we ain't giving
them that man.
They got to support the album.
They want to hear every jointman you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:58:35):
I appreciate you just for the space and the time, bro
, that is Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:58:41):
Man, it's my honor, man, to be able to do this and
chop it up with y'all.
Man, I'm just a big fan, man,I'm just a big fan of what y'all
are doing.
Man, I love supreme.
I'm a big fan of you.
Know what you are doing, domand um with rooster realm.
Speaking of, uh, speaking ofthat, I gotta plug rooster realm

(01:59:02):
, man, I gotta, I gotta, I gottahit you up.
I gotta hit you up next week Igot need brother.
I got school clothes to get, butthat's the priority.
But yo, rooster Realm, man likeyo.
If y'all don't know aboutRooster Realm, I'm gonna link
that in the description of thisshow too, so y'all can tap in.
Man, they're doing some verywell thought out, well prepared.

(01:59:27):
Um, what's the word I can use?
Man?
Um, well thought out, wellprepared.

Speaker 6 (01:59:34):
What's the word?

Speaker 4 (01:59:35):
I can use man, Clean healthy, Clean healthy, Like
treats for y'all.
Yeah, yeah, Treats.
Yeah, let's put it like thatTreats.
Yeah, it sucks, you know, manso.

Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
Good for the nervous system.
They're great for the nervoussystem.

Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
Yeah yeah.
Actually I need a nervoussystem reset too, but yo let me
highlight the production realquick.
So Production partnerships withT99 Salt Black Eye 9.
Your boy Pax, who mastered thisjoint Shout out to your boy Pax
, Burning, Burning Graff.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Burning.

Speaker 6 (02:00:11):
Giraffe, giraffe, burning Giraffe, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:00:14):
Okay, burning Giraffe when you go to band camp and
you get the like like theexclusivity of Egypt.
Light motion work, wild windsto spark discussion on strategy,
okay.
So, oh, I got one, I gotsomething I gotta play y'all
from, from where is he?

(02:00:38):
Where is he?

Speaker 5 (02:00:42):
Let me get to it.
Yo, yeah, in regards to thetrack light motion work, happy
Home, you know.
But basically, because you know, a lot of times I drop little
works in progress and storiesand highlights on Instagram.

(02:01:04):
T-dot shout out to T-Dot man,that's my homie.
He's always showing, you know,know, lots of love.
Or if there's something you know, one of those works in progress
that he's really messing with,you know, he'll give me a little
bit of feedback, uh, but thatone in particular was when I was
first experimenting with a lotof like field recordings, things

(02:01:25):
like that, and um, I think Ijust made like a drum loop, a
drum loop in that one, and uh,and he hit me up.
You know he was like, hey, yo,uh, if you don't mind, man, if
you send me that one, I've gotsome ideas that I'd love to try
to do on that one, and normallyI don't normally do that and
collaborate and stuff like that.

(02:01:46):
But but you know, my man, myman T-Dot, I like his style and
I was like, oh, yeah, for sure.
So I sent it to him and a lotof time passed.
I didn't really think much ofit, but he did tell me, I think,
one time at a show he playedsomething.
I recognized that break and Iwas like yo, that's fire.

(02:02:07):
And he was like yo, this iswhat I did with your, you know
your drums on it, so, uh, so Ithink he probably had that for
some time.
You know, whatever instrumentalhe did with those, those sounds
that I made and then, uh, youknow he would know the story
better but looks like it landed,you know, on this project with
the homie Dom.

(02:02:28):
But basically my contributionis really just the drum sounds.
I think he even maybe addedsome other, I don't know like if
it's like a kick or a tom, butmost of that percussion and a
lot of those field recordingsyou know those are.
It is basically a rhythm, arhythm that I created, just with

(02:02:48):
a bunch of abstract sounds.
And then, you know, t-dot tookthat and you know he took the
rest of the production fromthere.
And then, you know, dom, he putsome poetry over it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
Yeah man, that's the homie Tachi Maki man out there
in Australia.
Yeah, I mean, I had to tap in.
You know I started to tap inwith a whole bunch of different
people on the album man, just togo behind the scenes.
I figured I'd surprise y'allwith the Tachimaki that was dope
.
You know what I'm saying so,yeah, tachimaki's one of yeah,

(02:03:24):
he's the homie too, man, Iappreciate his sound, just like
I appreciate y'all sound, man.
So, okay, let's wrap this up.
We're gonna plug this album onemore time.
Um, yeah, we're gonna, you'regonna okay.
So, man, you know we talkedabout so much in this album, man

(02:03:45):
, um, a happy home spelledh-o-h-m.
All right.
And oh yeah, dom said to youthat, yeah, you can explain that
home part a little bit more um,it's just phonetics.

Speaker 6 (02:04:04):
Um, home.
It just reminded me of home,which, at that moment in time, I
think I was just sitting reallyheavy on sound healing and the
studies of Buddhism and theirmeans of meditation and chanting
and all that.
So it just had me sitting therefeeling like, okay, aum is

(02:04:26):
where the heart is, but then thehighest frequency of that
vibration is home, which justcirculates everything back into
the fact that foundation iseverything within what we do,
you know, trusting ourself,feeling ourself, giving
ourselves that space, thatability to move forward,
regardless of how things arepresented in a sense of uh chaos

(02:04:52):
.
You know, because, likeeverybody's experiencing life,
and I feel like these are justtrials and tribulations that are
just testing our character andour spirit for betterment, not
necessarily for anything that'ssupposed to uh hinder us, unless
we allow it to.
You know, home being in thenation.

Speaker 4 (02:05:12):
I like that.
I like that, yo.
You can pick up this album atdomcruz D-O-M-C-R-U-Z dot
bandcampcom.
Let's follow Dom Cruz and T-Dot.
I'm going to put all of that inthe description of this show.
Follow Love Supreme.
I'm not sure put all of that inthe description of this show.
Follow Love Supreme.
I'm not sure if y'all are doingany shows for this album this

(02:05:37):
summer.

Speaker 6 (02:05:40):
Yeah, At this moment in time I don't believe so.
We were having a whole run andthen, you know, life presented
itself.
So we're still figuring thatout, Like I think we're going to
do something in fall, whetherthat's out in Cali or whether
that's out in Oregon where he'sat.

Speaker 4 (02:06:00):
Is there a t-shirt for that album coming?
Not yet A poster.
A sticker Not yet A poster.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
A sticker.
Nah, man, honestly, thecassettes and the CDs for now,
okay, but, like you said, likethis album could live forever.
So I think it's really helpedme with my perception of time,
like everything doesn't need tobe done all at one time, you
know, if you really believe init, and it's really a mark on
your legacy, like you could dropthe merch next year.
You know you can drop itwhenever you want because it's

(02:06:36):
timeless because the originalidea for merch was like a candle
.

Speaker 6 (02:06:43):
We were about to sit there and have a candle that
sits there exudes a means ofrelaxation.
You're going to have like, uh,incense teas, like things that
represent a home, like a senseof pictures.
Yeah, relaxation exactly,because, like it was
incorporating roots around.
So we were just you know whatI'm saying.

(02:07:06):
So that was the biggest, that'sthe big thing that we were
working on is like how can we,how can we sit there and utilize
this to continue what Roots toRealms is doing too, because
that's a part of the whole, thewhole experience.
That's the home for Brother Domyou know what I'm saying In
terms of his business.

Speaker 3 (02:07:24):
Like yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:07:25):
We were creating these like home decoration, home
little miscellaneous items typeshit there it is yeah, yeah man
.

Speaker 4 (02:07:39):
Shout out to y'all man.
Man, fellas, I really appreciatey'all being on the show.
This Beat for Sessions, man,y'all brought it back for 2025.
So y'all, the first ones, let'sgo For this Beat for Sessions
to bring me back for Beat forSessions on the Red Show podcast
.
That's a wrap for the Red Showpodcast.

(02:07:59):
Man, big love to Dom Cruz andTI and Saul for sharing the
stories and the sounds and thesoul behind A Happy Home, which
you can get on band camp rightnow.
All right, you can.
You can preview snippets on thedistrict.
Uh, you know the streamingplatforms.
Go to YouTube and you know,check out a love Supreme

(02:08:23):
California.
Check out the documentaries.
You know, as a further behindthe scenes for the album.
Um, but yo, if today'sconversation resonated with you,
make sure you stream the album,support the artist.
All right, that's how theythat's how they can make more
albums.
All right, stream the album bysupporting the album and support

(02:08:44):
the artist and then share thisepisode with a friend who needs
that sonic healing, becausethat's what this, that's what
this album is is a sonic healingman all right yo any final
thoughts, dom and uh t-doc man,before we sign off, yeah um dom,
you want to go first?

Speaker 1 (02:09:05):
yeah, I'll go first man, yeah man, just big thank
you to you.
First of all, go to my forhaving us on here taking the
time.
I could tell you definitely putthought into it and that means
a lot.
It means a lot to me because Iput a lot of time into my art so
for it to be received, you know, to be reciprocated that way.
That really means a lot to me.
I mean, from the first questionI was like all right, this man

(02:09:26):
wasn't playing question.
I was like all right, this manwasn't playing um.
But you know, obviously, thankyou to to t dot.
Like I really feel like we madesomething that that stands the
test of time.
Like we could listen to thisalbum 20 years from now and it's
still gonna hit um.
Thank you to everybody that hassupported the project, that's
going to support the project andshout out, to shout out to you,

(02:09:46):
man, shout out to what you'redoing.
I really love what you're doing.
I really love what you're doing.
It's so important for us tosupport each other and to give
each other more platforms,because music has kind of like a
glass ceiling, a gatekeep to it.
So for us to do this to showthat we don't need that, we

(02:10:07):
don't need to even really payattention to that because we got
people like you that are goingto highlight us, like that means
a lot, it goes a long way andyeah, man, just thank you.
I appreciate the platform.
The time has been a greatfucking experience doing this.

Speaker 6 (02:10:26):
Yeah, to piggyback off of what he said.
Yeah, piggyback off of what hesaid, the support on the
appreciation, the, the means offinancial support, like, thank
you very much for putting moneyin and investing into us.
You don't have to do it, nobodyhas to do it.
You know, this is like, again,a means of conversation that has

(02:10:49):
turned into a record, and thisis a record with between me and
my brother down, like when wemet each other.
I wasn't making music at thistime.
This is just friendship, youknow.
Again, I appreciate him fortrusting me to sit there and
cultivate such a world.
So for you to highlight it,it's just an honor, brother.

(02:11:09):
So thank you again.
Like you've been supportivefrom the beginning.
So just sit there and have youreally support this and
understand where this is comingfrom.
Due to this fact that you heardme and had me on an interview
and gave certain questions and Igave insights to where I'm
coming from.
Like I appreciate you for that.

(02:11:33):
I'm just grateful for that.
I'm grateful for everyone thatwas involved, because, at the
end of the day, no one reallyhad to be involved.
So for them to believe in usbecause, oh folks, interpersonal
relationships with Black guys,they're an executive produce and
to these intimate moments andthese videos for us.
Like I'm grateful for him inthis time, you know, because it

(02:11:56):
just presents a more sense ofintimacy that went into this
project than I might be aware ofat the moment in time.
That transpired like I'm sittingthere and looking back and I'm
just like, damn, that was love.
That was love.
He did this, that was love.
Like it's giving me moregratitude for everything.
And then you hear the music andit's just like yo chill out.

(02:12:20):
Yeah, listening to the music itjust has me appreciate it more
because it really is a testamentof time, like it's not a dated
sense of perspective for man,it's a perspective for man that
everybody experiences.
Like we're given a testimonythat could trans, transcend time

(02:12:40):
.
You know, whether you're 15, 18, 20, 25, 30, like everybody
especially were areas where wegrew up in.
Everybody experiences some wildass moments in life that were
just like fuck, I wasn't readyfor this.
So to be able to give them asense of positivity to think
about was just like.
Even if you did do this, itcould turn out to be this you

(02:13:03):
know it might look crazy rightnow, but 5 years, 10 years later
you're going to be doing this,that and the third, and it's
gonna be beneficial because youovercame all this shit that's
man.

Speaker 4 (02:13:16):
Yo all love man to, to you, dom, and uh, t-dot man,
I'm a, I'm a supporter, I'm afan, I'm a be a fan for however
long you know, like until I die.
Basically you know what I'msaying.
But, uh, but yo, I appreciatey'all, appreciate y'all giving
me the opportunity to spotlighty'all's work.
Y'all got amazing body of workand um put other people on and

(02:13:41):
so you know if, if I can do thatand you know it all, it is time
, it's time and investment.
Care about what you're doing,man, and I really do care about
both y'all and the body of workthat y'all put out, man, um,
because y'all put thought andeffort into this album, man.
So thought, effort, time,energy, yeah, you know I mean

(02:14:03):
into this album, man.
So I can't come with nothing,but you know, know what I mean
100%, 110%, like I came ready togo Research.
You know what I mean listening.
I wrote down a whole bunch ofnotes but I can't say them all
here just because you know it'dtake even more longer than I
originally thought.
But I appreciate y'all man.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
Thank you, brother.

Speaker 4 (02:14:28):
Yes, sir man, I appreciate y'all man.
So, um, thank you, brother.
Yes, sir man, I appreciate.
Hey, thank y'all's families too, for you know, um allowing me
to take a little bit longer than45 minutes an hour to talk
about the album, because I knowy'all home from work, you know
they want y'all attention, man.
So thank y'all significant Iappreciate y'all.

Speaker 6 (02:14:47):
I love it, I love, I love sharing More intimate
information.
That shit is amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:14:52):
Yes, sir, yo so Yo Follow us on All platforms man
At the Reg Show Podcast, withthe exception of Spotify For
more conversations With beatmakers, producers and creators
From around the globe.
Until next time, start with therecord, recognize the beats and
always Keep building your ownhappy home.

(02:15:13):
Peace y'all, peace yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
A happy home just means that we is optimistic a
pessimist at heart.
Look at how the plot is twisted.
Other rappers got bricks, butI'm the one you build with
Homeless by the heart.
How the plot is twisted takethe pot and twist it.
Other rappers got bricks, butI'm the one you build with.

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