Burn The Topiary

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What is that sound, you ask?

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Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated
to beat makers around the world.
Kick back, relax with the host,Golden Mind.
Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat

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makers around the world.

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Welcome to the.

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Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers
around the world.

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Welcome to the Rec Show podcast a show dedicated to
beat makers around the world.

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makers around the world, where,you know, burning that structure
that somebody makes for you offof your personality is critical
for you to finding your ownself.
You know, and that's kind ofwhat I've always envisioned,
that name as a representative ofwhat I like to do musically is

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like kind of, you know, notconforming to the things that
people really like and stufflike that.
Like just really allowing myemotions to drive the music and
what I'm creating, and even ifit's weird and kind of wonky and
like a little off-color typething, like I just put it out
there.
You know what I mean, justbecause it's just coming from a

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really raw place and it's verytherapeutic to me.
You know what I mean To thinkof it that way.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, man, yo, I like the meaning of your name, man,
like it's so.
Man, I think, as creatives,that's what we're trying to do,
man, we're not trying to, youknow, fit into the norms, the
social norms and all of thattype of stuff.
Like you know, it's not evenlike a man it's hard for me to

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explain like a rebellion of thenorms.
It's just trying to be yourbest self and not trying to be
like anybody else.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Exactly man and like that's the way it's.
I see it for a lot of people,like a lot of my you know peers
that do this, is that they'reshowcasing a lot of their
personality, a lot of their, thesounds that they enjoy, and
it's pretty cool that we get allto share those different colors
and music with each other,because you it's almost like you

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learn more about the person ina sense you know what I mean,
like you understand them alittle bit more clear.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yo man, definitely man.
That's yo, that's super dopeLike.
Did you come up with that nameor did somebody give you that
moniker?

Speaker 4 (12:16):
No, no, no.
I came up with it sometime likein like the ending of 99, where
I was.
I was starting to make beatsand I was really trying to like
learn how to do music production.
And once I had like a handfulof beats where I'm like, all
right, I'm just going to putthis out there, and you know
whether someone listens to it ornot.

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It's going to be out there, youknow, and, and I had to put an
aim to it, so that that's kindof what came about.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I got you, I got you there, so you've been creating
music since 1999?
.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Well, I would say like like beat, beat oriented
music.
Yeah, because I mean I've beenplaying music pretty much my
whole life.
For the most part I'm a guitarplayer and that's kind of what I
grew up on.
And then during high school, oractually elementary, junior,
high and high school years, Iwas playing trumpet in band and

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stuff like that.
So like music's always beenaround me.
But beat making was the wholenew world, you know, and it
really intrigued me once I, onceI caught that fever to make
your old music, you know.
So yeah, since like 99, I wouldsay, is when the beat making

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started.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Got you Yo man Like okay, so see, now we see in.
Like you've been around music,like was there anybody else in
your, in your family, that kindof like influenced your musical
you know upbringings and said,hey, yo play this, play this.
Or you know play the guitar,play the trumpet, or anything

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like that.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, so like a lot of family on my dad's side,
which I'm very fortunate because, like it's kind of crazy
because my dad really wasn'taround too much when I was a kid
.
But the one thing that I'm verygrateful that he left me was
the musical influence.
Like he was always, you know,bumping salsa and metting in the

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car and he was a big metalheadtype of dude.
So he liked playing a lot ofthat music, a lot of hip hop, a
lot of different, you know,varieties of music that that
really kind of molded me intoliking the things that I like
now.
So, and then his family, I meanthere's a lot of musicians, you
know, a lot of guitar playersfor sure, and singers they, you

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know, they love singing.
I remember, you know, being akid and everybody getting
together and singing songs.
Those are things that just, Ithink really, you know, clings
on to me as I was going throughmy own discovery of music.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
On memories, on memories.
Yeah man Like, yeah, like yougot those, you know your pops is
playing.
You know all these differenttypes of music that influence
you.
Do you remember like um, do youremember like the, like the
bands or or some of the?
You know the musical acts thatstick out to your brain, that

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kind of influence you to thisday.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah, for sure.
I mean you know again, you knowgrowing up listening to so many
different things andappreciating it all, I mean
there's there's been likecountless, countless influences
and and they've taken part inwhat I like to do.
So, like hip hop wise, likegangsta, like gangsta is like my

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top artists that I can put onany single day and listen.
And we got Erica Bob do doBjork be maker wise.
Like D B O C.
Man like D B O C is like likeyou know, he's up there man,
like he really takes a biginfluence on me and I can sit

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there and watch his lives forlike hours and not even blink
one seat at a time.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Man, man, yo shout out to the, to the.
You know, gangsta man.
I think it was DJ Premier's 50.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
No, he might be ordered yesterday.
Yeah yesterday.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah yesterday, right , yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you know, um DJ Premier man,if you listen to this show, man
, happy birthday man.
Thank you for everything you'vedone to.
You know, support the hip hopculture and music and general,
because he's not just in hip hoplike.
He made music for all thesedifferent genres, man.
So, oh yeah, amazing, you know.
And gangsta.

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So um D you know.
Shout out to the slap mastergeneral man D B O C.
Yo doing some amazing things,man, you know, actually
professor D B O C.
Now you know, all in the UCBerkeley and you know, amazing
things, man.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
So he's a.
He's a university deep maker.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah so, yeah, man, but yo man, yeah.
So your pops, you know, givingyou that influence, and the
music influence, like, whatwould you say is your favorite
instrument to play and why?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Uh, well, I'm, I'm, I'm a guitar player, man Like
that.
That that's the firstinstrument that I I geared
towards and, uh, and, after somany years of of spending time
on it, like learning scales, andyou know writing music on the
guitar, playing in so manydifferent bands throughout.
You know my, my musical journey.
Um, it's just the one that Ican find I can express myself in

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like a very different way.
You know, um, and it's all.
It's all like constructing,like making music.
You know putting parts together, you know how they work
together and, um, to me it'slike a puzzle, you know, and,
and it got to the point where,like now, obsessively sitting
there for hours just to try tofigure out something that's in

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my head and see how I can makeit work and translate onto the
guitar.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, right, man Cause when I listen, when I
listen to your music, man, youknow all the all the way from
your, you know your very firstalbum, um, that you put out and
hold on, man, let me make sure Igot the name right.
Uh, oh uh, tree Beats, volumeOne, right that you put out on
Bandcamp, right right.
All the way from listening tothat all the way until the most

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recent project that you put out,I lost my umbrella and the Soho
, which is a super dope name,but we're going to talk about
that.
Um, you know, I'm listening tolike all of these, like the
horns and the guitars, and, uh,you know what you do with the
drums and uh, you knoweverything like that, like when
you know you being, um, I wouldsay, a veteran in beat making

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man, it's just, you know you'vebeen doing it for so long.
When was when did you think itwas time to like create your own
music?
And, you know, have otherpeople you know, either you know
, listen to it, like it or don'tlike it, type of thing.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Right, man.
So I mean, and you know what,it's funny because, like I'm
going to correct myself here Isaid 99, I meant 2019.
I don't know why I'm thinking99.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like that's way back then I was still playing guitar
back then.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
That's my apologies, but no, 2019.
It's like right, like it was inthe beginning of like the, the,
the COVID era stuff going on,and uh, you know, obviously I
mean I was playing musicthroughout that whole time, but
once everything kind of startedlocking down, it really allowed
me to discover other ways ofgetting like a creative outlet

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out, you know.
So, so beat making came aboutbecause I've always been a hip
hop fan, you know, andelectronic music just always
captivated me in a wholedifferent way from what, like
guitar music did.
And, and at some point I waslike you know what, like I want
to, I want to try this, like Iwant to, you know, get my
creative on and, um, I ended upbuying an SP 404 S X and spent

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like a whole year trying tolearn that thing, and even still
now I'm still trying to learnlike a lot of stuff that you can
do on that powerful machine.
I mean, I downloaded arecording program and really
like dove into trying to figureout like what's mixing, you know
, like what's EQing and what'scompression and all that fun

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stuff that comes with this.
But yeah, like around, I think,2020, I'm going back to 2000 and
like 2020.
I think is when I did that TreeBeats Volume 1 album, band camp
and and it's funny because,like, if you'll listen to like
Tree Beats 1, 2 and 3, which Ihave up there, like you know

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that that was me exploring withthe whole, you know, using MIDI
and programming drums and a lotof it's like you know, quantized
music, just because I wastrying to discover what can be
done with these programs.
But then in like the lateralbums you'll hear kind of like

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a different feel to the musicbecause I was unquantizing
everything and starteddiscovering like, hey, you know
what I can actually play thisout and I can add, you know
weird little sounds around mydrums and mix them all together
and create something a whole,like a whole different vibe to
it.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know, yeah, man, because you in 2020, man, you
put out four albums.
Yeah four albums were for music.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah probably all probably all made within like a
like a three to four monthtimeframe.
To wow, yeah, yeah, man upset,I'm telling you, man, like, once
it kicked, it was an obsession.
Like I was just like I freakinglove this, like I can't stop,
you know, and still tell you tostay Like it's.
It's one of those things whereit's like every day I'm going to

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sit down and spend an hour ortwo hours, whatever life allows
me, to make some music, you know.
So, yeah, it was.
It was a pretty short span,with all those albums coming out
and you know, one after theother, I was just like, all
right, here's this, this groupof songs, here's this other
group of songs, and so forth.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, because I definitely hear the shift from
you know the first, the firstfour albums that you put out,
which were Tree Bees, volume one, two and three, and then you
put out the album sample, thesamples Right, and then I hear
the shift all the way through,starting with like Indignation.

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And you know common, you knowcommon ground.
I lost my umbrella so like yeah, like hold on, but I want to
skip questions because I want totalk about a few of these
albums for sure, man.
So, but I do have to ask Hold on, let me make sure I do have to

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ask about, like your learningmusic, man.
You're learning your equipmentduring the time where you know,
like even right now, likeeverybody's back to work,
everybody's hustling,everybody's grinding.
But I think that you know thepandemic, yes, tragic things

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were happening, that out of ourcontrol, but that was a time
where I think a lot of peoplejust stopped everything and was
like yo, I'm going to take thistime to do what I want to do,
learn what I want to learn.
You know what I mean.
And then, when we come, out ofit you know like what, like how

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did you stay on that regimenduring that crazy time?
Just you know, just learn yourSP4 for Essex and you know
whatever the doll that you wereusing, and just learn and crank
out beat after beat, after beat,after beat.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, I don't know, I'm trying to look back on it.
It was such a chaotic time foron my end as I'm sure for many,
many, many other people, youknow and very unfortunate event
that occurred, but in anotherway, like I feel like it allowed
people the time and the spaceto kind of really discover what
they wanted to do away from thestandards of working and hanging

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, rent and like everything thatwe have to do to kind of stay
afloat, you know.
So really like it was just aconstant inspiration of the
people that I would meet onlineand hearing their music that
really motivated me to keepgoing and keep learning.
And you know, staying humblewith their craft in the sense

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that, like you know, never,never approaching it with an
attitude of like, oh you know,I'm going to be the best type
thing, like no, I'm like, I'mlike a student to this stuff and
there's like an infinite amountof stuff to learn on,
regardless of whatever machineor devices you use to make music
, like, there's always somethingnew to learn and to me that
that's the intriguing part of it.

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It's like, all right, what canI learn and how can I?
How can I twist this process upa little bit?
You know, and that, thatcuriosity, that I think is what
gave me the drive to, like, keepgoing.
You know, and at some point, youknow, because of the stressful
time that we were all living inand you know, a lot of people
lost work and stuff like that,like you know, we felt that in

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my home, but I needed to kind ofkeep that level head for my
family and honestly, with 100%truth, beat making, I think, is
what's been providing me that,that that balance, you know,
emotionally and mentally,because it allows me that time
to just sit there and and makesomething.
And I love creating, I love, Ilove doing that kind of stuff,

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and when I do it it's almostlike a refresher to my soul type
thing.
It sounds cheesy, but that'sthat's what it is, you know
right.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I definitely understand, man, Like you know,
crazy, crazy times.
But that was, that was, thatwas and still is sanity for me,
just like you know a lot ofother people.
When things get crazy like you,can just sit down and express
your emotions in anon-destructive way.

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You know.
I mean like, yeah, we chop itup, samples, we destroy it,
samples, but but we're, you know, creating something else that's
like can speak to our you knowour emotional state, Like, yeah,
I like the way you just gavethem crazy gems right there.
You know, go ahead, man.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Because, that's certainly but, that's well.
Yeah, that's what it is.
You know, like it and I thinkit's taking such like, taking an
approach like that would bemaking for myself and I'm
speaking for myself and, I'msure, other people, but like it,
you know, taking that approachhas allowed me to not overthink
the music so much.
You know, I think, like when Iwas, when I was starting out, I

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was just like, ok, like this hasto be perfect, and then you'd
spend an hour trying to find theperfect spot for that one hit
and, like you know, this mixisn't good enough.
And then you trash it and keepgoing and going and it was
really never good enough.
In that sense, and like you know, once, once I kind of got away
from that mentality of like notworrying about it so much and

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just making what comes out.
For that moment that I'm makingsomething like, I found like a
whole different happiness to thewhole process because of it.
You know, just just reallymusic that's, that's driven by
the emotion that I'm feeling atthe moment.
You know, and sometimes I'lllike I'll be making something

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and then by the end of whateverI'm making as far as the beat or
a loop or whatever the case Ilisten to it, I'm like wow, like
I didn't realize I just madethat right, like I was so into
the process and this is whatcame out.
This is what it is.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Right, Right, man, you know, like I got to, I got
to ask you this man Like there'sso many different things that
you could have done.
You know, during the globalpandemic and stuff like that, or
even right now, there's so manythings that you can create, but
you chose music specifically.

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You know what I mean and Ithink, well, you know, I can't
even say, I think that I think Ican't even say, I think I keep
saying that.
Um, I guess the question is youknow you could have drawn
something, you could have builtsomething with your hands.

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You know and you know you couldhave done any other thing, but
music is what you gravitated to.
Was that is that?
Is that like somethingspiritual for you?

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Oh, definitely, and it always like it always kind of
has been, Because I meangrowing up.
Growing up, you know we didn'thave the most favorable, you
know, life situations growing up.
And I grew up with my mom, whowas pretty much a single parent
for most of our childhood, andthen my younger sister, who I,

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you know, primarily would takecare of a lot when my mom was
working like two, three jobsjust to stay afloat, and and
music has always been there,Like you know, I had old punchy
guitars that you know always sataround our house and and I just
recalled me, you know, reallydiving into learning and really

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just keeping my head there.
And you know, like many of usexperience a lot of bad
influences and stuff out in theworld.
At school I think music kind ofkept me away from all that
stuff, you know, because I likebeing a decent human being, Mr
Golden Mind, you know I like tohave my fun, but I also I also

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like to, you know, do good inthe world the best that I can,
and I think music really pushesme to do that a lot.
That I love it, man, likeobsessively love it, you know,
and I think it's a healthyobsession Like, because it's
something that I'm justconstantly thinking about,
constantly appreciating andbeing grateful for.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Man yo shout out to.
You know all the single moms.
You know I had the samesituation as you man, so you
know I'm the oldest of five.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
So oh nice.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
You know moms was, you know, out there hustling man
.
So I definitely.
And music, you know, music fromthe same way, same thing, like
I would just come home fromschool, you know, make sure my
brothers and sister were goodand boom, I'll put on, like Mike
Jackson or you know, a Princealbum you know need like, yeah,
take me away, and there's.
And you know we, I'm growing upand I'm not sure if you know

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you're growing up in the sametime for it, but I'm growing up
in the 80s, middle of a crackepidemic, gangs, all that type
of stuff, you know.
And right, man, I think musicdefinitely was one of the things
, that same, because I couldhave chose another obsession and
that could have been adestruction of me, you know.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
So yeah, no, yeah, and I mean, I think, and I think
that's why, like you know, weyou know as music makers, like
we appreciate other forms of art, other forms of creation too,
because it's all relative, youknow, like to me, making beats,
making music, is like paintingwith sound, you know, and

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there's so many different colorsand brushes, metaphorically
speaking, right, that you canuse in music to create a whole
different picture than what theother person's doing and and
when you, when you see it thatway, it's like man, like it's an
infinite possibility ofcreation that you can just, you
can just make for yourself, youknow, for other people to enjoy,

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and vice versa, you know youenjoy everybody else's paintings
, sound, what's sonically right,right.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yo, you just.
You just gave him another barman.
You said yeah, painting withsound.
Yo, that's yeah, that's messageyeah, yeah, yeah, that's it man
.
Yo yeah, man.
Yeah, you know, because I doenjoy other people's paintings,

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man Like you know, a lot ofpeople are creating different
things and you know we just sohappen to be blessed to be able
to see and tap into all of thesepeople.
Do the, do the the blessings oftechnology?
You know the good parts oftechnology.
You know we're able to see andlisten to and watch other

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people's creations, and that'sthat's so amazing man, it's dope
man.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, it's amazing.
And then like how it keepsevolving into the times we're in
now to where everybody can haveaccessibility to do this kind
of stuff, that you startrealizing, like man, there's a
lot of people that you know,maybe back like 15, 20 years ago
, didn't have access to thestuff, but they had gold.
Like they had gold building upin their souls and like once

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they were able to express it.
It's like man, you hear so muchdope music out there that it's
like it never stops and it'sreally great.
You know, as a music fan, likewe all love it.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, man.
So yo, man, I gotta, I gottaask you, you know, as far as you
know, as we're talking aboutmusic creation and stuff like
that, I gotta ask you about yourprocess to creating music, like
when you sit down in front ofyour you know your SPS and I see
you be rocking out on Koala too, so shout out to Koala gang yo.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Shout out.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Koala, yes, love it.
Oh, you know like what is it?
What happens when you sit downand you want to create something
like what goes through yourmind?
No, how do you even startcreating your music?

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, I think you just start Like whatever,
whatever, whatever's going tocome up that moment, because
like, all right, so check thisout.
I primarily I like making beatson the ESP and then Koala,
because it's just so easilyaccessible, like I don't have to
turn on my laptop and I have apretty crappy laptop so it takes
forever to turn on.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
And you know what I mean Like.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
so I just I kind of got accustomed to just making
beats, away from using like arecording program and whatnot.
You know I really messed withthe I don't know if you've heard
of a drum brute impact fromArtoria and they I think they
usually, like a lot of peopleuse it for like more like upbeat

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.
You know upbeat tempo type ofmusic.
But I mean I really I love theanalog sound that it contains.
So like there's a lot of beatson some of the later albums I
have on on band camp that you'llhear.
You know that the distinct soundof a drum brute impact, you
know it's like it's very, veryanalog, monosounding.

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I love that that type of feelin music.
But really I mean, yeah, justgetting back to the process,
it's like whatever I'm feelingfor the moment, if I'm at work
and I get like 30 minutes, I'mon Koala, I mean like that that
I'm making music there and I'mtrying to get my outlet on, and
then if I get home I'll turn onthat ESP on the couch, you know,
and just get comfy and watchsomething while I'm trying to

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make something.
And you know, just really tryto make the process like like
easy for myself so that I'm notlike sitting there getting a
chance to overthink things is isreally what the process is for
me.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, overthinking is over.
Yeah, the killer of inspiration.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Bruh, like I'm, like I'm like a chronic overthinker,
especially with music.
Like, especially with music,right.
So, like the last, I think,like the last year, maybe the
last couple of years, I'vereally been trying to like
better myself with that Like to,not because I noticed the piece
that it brings to me when I'mnot sitting there, like, oh, is

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this good?
Or like, oh, I don't know, Idon't know about this one.
Like, no, like, just, it's made, it is what it is, we're going
to put it out there.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Right, right, man Listen up.
So yo everybody don't sleep on,like when you just out and
about and inspiration hits.
You don't sleep on the mobileapps that these app stores have.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Like.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Wala is.
You know, if you want, you knoweverything.
A lot is going to cost you,maybe eight dollars, eight
dollars or something like that,but you can do so much in that
app, beemaker three, you know,whatever other you know mobile
apps that there are that you canhave access to while you wait
in to a laundry or what.

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The doctor's office, whateveryou know, you won't be dropping
your head in the doctor's office, but Right.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah, while they're checking your colon or something
.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Listen, I've had to wait an hour.
In the dark I made a beat inthe doctor's office, so yeah,
that's it.
That's it, man.
You know, like, whereverinspiration hits you, like I'm,
I'm literally sample peoplewalking in through the hospital,
you know because everybody'stalking and you know things like
that.
But yo man Koala, man Koala,and you know your, your, your SP

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, like Right, what.
What are the things that youknow keeps you creating on those
two, two devices?

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I think, like so for Koala, I love the accessibility
of having it in my pocket, likeI mean so, like you know.
Coming back to one of thealbums I have on on Band Cap,
which is the latest one that Idropped, you know, I lost my
umbrella and so ho was entirelymade on Koala and it was made in
three days, my wife yeah, mywife and I took a trip to New

(37:55):
York.
It was our first time in NewYork and prior to the trip, I
remember seeing a post from oneof my love supreme brothers,
black God 9.
And he, he went out and did ashow out somewhere out out of
state, but I recall him postingup a beat that he was making
while he was traveling andcommenting on how that, you know

(38:18):
, you know the trip itself wasinspirational to him to make
that kind of stuff.
So it really, it really stuckto me right, like once I saw
that I was like, wow, like youknow, going on this trip, it's
going to be our first time thereI'm going to get a lot of first
impressions.
I've never been to New York.
You know, I really want tocapture the vibe and you know,
like from before the time I goton the plane, like I was already

(38:39):
set like, all right, I'm goingto make an album in the three
days that we're going to be outhere and it's all going to be on
Koala, and we're going tocapture sound from, you know,
the subways and the subways andyou know the shops and the
stores and everywhere we weregoing to, and then, like you
know, a lot of the samples thatwere used on that album.
It's crazy because, like, wewould be at like one of their
malls out there, you know, justkind of being tourists, and a

(39:02):
song would play out on the storespeakers and I'm like, well,
what is that song?
So, you know, there I golooking for it on the internet
and I would save it and thenwhen I would have like 15
minutes or whatever to myself, Iwould sit there and try to make
something really quick and justkind of move on to the next one
.
You know.
So it was such a refreshing wayof creating music because it
was just like you're using yourenvironment as an inspiration in

(39:24):
a whole new place that you knowyou've never been to before,
that it doesn't, it doesn'tallow you, you know, the time to
like, you know, over mess withthings Like it's like no, bam,
bam, bam boom.
This is what it is.
Let's move on to the next thing.
And by the time we were donewith our trip, you know, I got
back and I think, like on theright on the airplane right home
, I just spent time trying tomix it a little bit and then,

(39:46):
you know, as soon as I got home,I'm like all right, here goes
on to Dan Camp, and that's whatit is now.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
You know man yeah actually you know, since we,
since we talk about it, man,this album is, this is a
definitely like you.
Just, it was like a journeyalbum, it's the best way I can
put it.
Like, yeah, it's definitely ajourney, like you hear and you

(40:15):
can.
Like, you can sense, like youwere traveling and you were
listening to all these differentthings happening.
Luckily you had koala in yourpocket and you did something
with it.
Man, like yo, like I, like alot of the tracks off of I lost
my umbrella and so on, like fromyou know, departed, and the way
you sequence this joint to it'scrazy.

(40:35):
You know you started withdeparted and then terminally
jaded, crash, crash landing.
That didn't happen, but good,subway service, slanted streets,
like yo you really took.
And that's New York, you knowsewer rat party.
Oh yeah, see, all right.
So like, just just to speak on,that one right Like sewer rat

(40:56):
party.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Like.
So we stayed.
We stayed with my wife's cousinwho lived in Brooklyn, where
she lives in Brooklyn andBrittany shout out to her, I
love her very much, you know.
We stayed in her apartment andshe she's a part of your man,
like she loves to.
She's a bar closers, what shecalls herself.
Right.
Like we'll go to the bars at 12midnight and we're there until
it closes at four or fiveo'clock in the morning by like 4

(41:18):
30, me and my wife.
Like we got kids, man, we gotkids.
We're like John right.
Like just like no, this is toomuch.
Like I can do this in my 20sbut not in our 40s, you know
Right.
And but no, like we were.
So we took a break from thelittle club that we were at and

(41:38):
we sat outside and we were justkind of enjoying the night.
It started raining and all of asudden you just see like a
whole family of rats just likewalking by us and we were like,
oh my God, you know my wife'sfreaking out, I'm laughing my
ass off because I was finallyable to see a New York rat, you
know.
And and yeah, that, like so,like that.
That moment I captured it onKoala just the environment and

(42:01):
you know people having fun anddrinking and stuff like that at
430 in the morning and you knowthe rats walking by us and put
it, you know in that, thatspecific track, which is really
cool because it just likelistening to it and just get all
these nostalgic moments, yeah,right.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yo what?
And another dope track.
I lost my umbrella.
That title track, like that'sanother dope one.
But then I like what you did atthe end as well.
You know security check andthat that's a doom, a doom remix
man.
What you did with that wasamazing, like you know how did

(42:36):
you, how did you come with that,like, what was, what was the
process when you were coming upwith that last track?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Man, I again like, because everything was so like
spur in the moment type thing.
I mean, I don't even know, like, I think you know, like it's
just to me like when it comes tolike, because obviously I like,
I like sample chopping man,like it's, it's, it's great,
like.
Don't get me wrong, I lovemaking my own melodies and stuff
like that too, which I'vemessed around with a lot in like
the older albums.

(43:04):
But like sample chopping, likeit allows me to manipulate it so
much and and and.
Some of my favorite stuff tosample is either like Brazilian
jazz, like really obscure stuff,you know, or just jazz in
general.
Like you know, there's so manydifferent types of tones and
melodies and jazz that you know,once, once I start kind of like
messing around with with, withthe sounds that I'm collecting,

(43:27):
you know, I just try to find acertain loop or a certain chop
that works together and and Ithink, yeah, that track
specifically like once, once Imade it, I was like you know
what, I need to knock a pillowon this thing.
We're going to make it a bonustrack and and and we can't go
wrong with, you know, all caps,mfdoom, like you know, kind of
like you know, like you knowhe's, he's one of my favorites,

(43:48):
so he had to be on the albumwith me.
Yeah, oh man, that was a.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
That was a great closer joint that you put on
there and that's just.
This whole album was superamazing, man.
Let's for the internet.
Man, if y'all didn't know, man,I lost my umbrella and so it
was available on Bandcamp.
I'm going to link, burn thetopiaries entire Bandcamp
discography inside of the showcredit, show notes.

(44:12):
Okay, so just scroll down alittle bit.
You can see the links to.
You know, it's going to be howthis social is going to have his
discography.
It's going to have the.
You know whoever the introtrack is, and I think I got an
idea on that one.
But yo, man, yo I'm going toclap it up for you.

(44:32):
Man, like yo, you're on thatalbum, man.
And then another one of anotherone of my my favorite joints.
That's in your discography iscommon ground.
It's it's short man, but it'slike it's so good man Like
common ground.
That came out in July 6th of2023, you know, a day after my

(44:55):
wife's birthday.
So so shout out to my wife yowhat's up.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah, man, Shout out to your wife man.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Absolutely so, yo, but common ground, like.
How did you?
What was the process of makingcommon ground?

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Yeah for sure.
So common ground was just likea collection of beats that I had
in my SP.
So pretty much all those trackswere made on an SP.
But, like my, my goal, I thinklike three of the tracks share
the same sample source.
And I think during that timethat's like one of the exercises
that I kind of fell into man,just like you know, just to keep

(45:33):
myself interested.
For me, like for making music,is that, like you know, one of
the common practices I like totry to do is, like you get one
sample source, you know, whetherit be 20 seconds of a song or
whatever, wherever it comes from, and let's see how many beats
you can make out of that thatsound different, you know?
Um, yeah, because, like youknow, for a while, when I got

(45:54):
into sampling and chopping andstuff, like I noticed that like
I would work on one samplesource and then I would make the
one beat but there was so muchother stuff that I could have
done with it and like I neverreally took advantage of that,
you know.
So, like you know, at somepoint I was just like you know
what, like let's, let's try thissample again, but let's try it
with the faster drums, slowerdrums, let's, let's, let's pitch
it, you know, down, or let's goup.

(46:16):
This time let's, let's go inreverse and, and you know, add a
flanger.
A flanger to it.
You know it gives you so manydifferent, you know options at
that point where you're justlike, wow, like I just so like
three, three beats of thatcommon ground release.
We're using the same samplesource.
And then that that release waspretty cool because, like, I

(46:39):
released it as a way for peopleto donate to a help center
that's out here in Ontario.
So all the, all the thepayments that came in for that
release went to the house ofRuth, which is one of my
favorite.
You know charities to donate toand they take care of, you know

(46:59):
, women that have gone throughdomestic violence.
They take care of theirchildren.
You know they have like foodbanks and stuff that we've
helped out there before with.
So, yeah, like everything thatcame into that album until this
day, like, if anybody decides to, you know, purchase that off a
band camp.
You know, know that you'reyou're supporting this cause at

(47:20):
the house of Ruth in Ontario,california.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Wow Okay, you see yo the stories behind these albums,
man.
Wow Okay, yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
And I think, like you know, that that was the
inspiration behind it all.
Man, like I trust, like growingup is I'm sure all of us went
through our own stuff Like youknow it really it really made me
realize that like, hey, lookyou're, you're alive and you're
either gonna you're either gonnado good for the people around
you or you're gonna do bad.
Right, and like, and and and tome, like me and my family, like

(47:55):
we're really big on on doingthat kind of stuff because it's
it's needed in this world.
Man, like you know, as manypeople as we can get to help
each other out, it's just gonnamake things a lot better for all
of us in general.
And you know, with, with thecommon ground, release like a
lot of those tracks that I wouldmake, like I kind of had that
in mind.
So you'll have tracks like theunemployment line, you know

(48:15):
where.
You know a lot of people whenthey lose their job.
You know they're in a, they'rein a position where they they
kind of feel desperation, whichis really sad that we have to
live in that kind of world, youknow Right, but yeah, yeah,
that's, that's the source of theinspiration.
My friend, like and and and.
It's cool to look back at thatalbum and think of all those
things when, when you know, youspeak of it.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yo, man, yo, that's so inspiring, man.
I got to grab this album soonas I get off the off the chat
with you.
Man, I'm gonna go ahead andgrab that man, Because that's
you know, that's something closeto my heart as well, man, you
know, just just doing for others, Right that I think people, I

(49:00):
think people kind of like miss,misunderstand when we say you
know, help your fellow man, itdon't always mean, hey, give a
few thousand dollars, or youknow or you know, break your,
break your back doing it, oranything like that.
It can be the simplest thing, asyou know create something and

(49:21):
then, whatever you like, likeyou did with this album.
You know you created the music.
You know you put it out there.
People supported Boom.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
You take that, take those funds and donate it to
something greater than what youcould have even thought Like
right, yeah, man, I mean yeah,and it's so, and it's, it's,
it's done for the sake of doingand not for the sake of
receiving something in return.
You know, and like I thinkthat's why I appreciate my love
Supreme Brothers.

(49:49):
Man, Like the, you know, everytime like so the there's been
two events that we've been ableto throw at the Love Supreme
Warehouse where we wouldannounce, you know, donations
welcomed.
You know, so, like there's beentwo events where man like I'm
so appreciative of everybodythat attended those events, you

(50:11):
know that brought like cannedfood.
We did a toy drive for lastyear's Christmas and we donated
it to the same location there inOntario, at the House of Ruth.
We've donated a lot of cans thatcame from the Love Supreme
events to a food bank out in ElMonte, california, that does
like wonderful work for theircommunity, and I mean those

(50:34):
people like they work really,really hard in trying to keep
people fed, you know.
So I'm appreciative that.
You know we have a space andevents that were a lot.
You're able to do that kind ofstuff because it just makes
everything so much moremeaningful, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Right man, yo, I'm speaking of speaking of a Love
Supreme, california.
Like you, do something amazing.
You and your wife, you know,open jaws, open jaws, doors, man
, to allow that squad to comethrough every month and put on

(51:11):
showcases.
Who does that?
You know, like you know whatI'm saying.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Hey man, I'm wondering who doesn't do that,
you know?
what I mean Like, come on, man,like you got to get free
concerts at the place that youwork at.
You know it's like.
And so much amazing talent, man, like, yeah, I'm shout out to
my wife.
My wife is such a lovely person, she's, you know, the love of
my life and she knows where Icome from with the music stuff.

(51:39):
You know, like she sees howpassionate I am about it and she
loves music just as much, youknow, but just in her own way
type of thing, like, you know,being a fan of it and whatnot.
But, yeah, man, like you know,getting to know so many, so many
dope creatives, on Instagramprimarily, you know, and as I
was releasing my own music, likethis opportunity came up and

(52:04):
and I was like, hey, look, Ihave a space, let's do this, you
know.
But you know, you know, I'msure you know, you've come
across people that you know kindof, you know, talk the talk,
don't walk the block, type thing.
So, you know, thankfully, I meta group of guys that walked the
walk, you know, and they'regiving it 100% every single
event that we've been throwing,to the point where, like a year

(52:26):
and a half later now, like we'restill doing it, you know, and
we haven't missed the beat, soI'm grateful for that man.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, man, like I told you, man, you know I thank
you and your wife, man, I knowthe squad, I appreciate y'all.
Man, like, you know we need andyou know, people that have
spaces like open it up, man,just, you know, ain't got to be
anything outrageous or crazy,just allow a space for the
creation and the sharing oftheir creations.

(52:54):
And you watch what happens, man, oh yeah, like oh man, it's
insane.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Like you know, my wife and I will look back at
certain events and we're likeholy crap, like I can't believe
that we just have this type ofcaliber show here, yep, when you
know just so many dope peopleyou know hanging out, having fun
, being kind to each other,motivating each other, like it's
almost like church in a way.
You know what I mean, likeexactly.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Like church is supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
yeah, yeah exactly what church is supposed to be.
You know, like it's all, it'sall loved, it's all brotherly,
sisterly love and in support.
You know, and it and it to me,like growing up in music
environments, I was alwaysappreciative of the spots that I
had to go to.
You know, for things of thatnature, that once I got into the

(53:40):
position where like hey, youknow I can provide this, like
hell, yeah, I'm going to do this.
You know, like there's noquestion in my mind, no
hesitation, like this is what Ilove to do in my life.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Man for the internet man.
Oh no, I got to remind y'all wetalking.
You know we've been talking.
I'm talking to a Bernadette,bernadette, topiary man.
So you know I love Suprememember.
He's a amazing beatmaker.
You know instrumentalist aswell in his own right.
But when we talking about loveSupreme California man, let me

(54:17):
just go.
This is a live music venue inOntario, california.
It's a DIY residencycollectiveness.
Yeah, here's the members man.
This is the, this is the.
When I say the Avengers of beatmaking, this is who I'm talking
about.
I'm talking about Bernatopia.
I'm talking about your boypacks.

(54:37):
Talking about black guy nine.
Jet lag trap.
Splashiest splash is, you know,his.
His art is crazy anyway.
But yo T dot, I saw what's upto him.
T like the enlightenment picks.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Thank you, zelente man like yo, this squad, ah man,
this squad is crazy man thebest group of guys, man, like,
oh man, I I tell, I tell T tothat all the time, like brother,
like I'm, I'm blessed to haveyou guys in my life, and, and,
and I mean every single word ofit, because those I mean, like

(55:12):
person-wise human being, wise,amazing human beings, you know,
away from the music stuff, likethey're just really really down
to earth, compassionate people,passionate people of the art
that they, that they put theirtime into and and, and I
couldn't have asked for any anybetter.
And you know, those group ofguys, I love them very much, man

(55:34):
, I'm very thankful to have themin my life.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, man, such good dudes man like yo, anytime,
anytime I get the opportunity tosupport Any of any of those
gentlemen, and then, yeah, youknow, and, and the group, I'm
not gonna lose the groupCollectively.
Man, I'm always down for that.
So, um, I think, and you know,and at the time of this
recording, two hours lateryou're gonna be doing a show.

(56:00):
Can you talk about that alittle bit?

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Absolutely.
Hey, check this out, look likeafter this, I already have my
car pack, I'm gonna head out tothe Riverside and we're throwing
a love supreme event.
It's event 16, or 17 somearound those numbers residents.
We got jet latch, jet latch,lag traps Excuse me, jet lag
trap.
And then we got theotis soul asa guest resident, and then for

(56:26):
the loved ones, which is, youknow, the people that are have
been booked for the lineup, wegot echoic, godspeed, defty,
divine science, who's doing analbum release show for tonight,
um, the lodge day.
And then Assad ill and we're.
We're actually kind of changingthings up a little bit this
time around, like we normally doit at the warehouse, where we

(56:49):
usually do it at, but we'regonna be throwing it at a spot
out in Riverside, californiaCalled elements record shop.
So it's gonna be a fun night.
Wow busy, fun night.
That's how we.
That's how we do man.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Wow, yo, so I, you know, I, for those that are
outside of the, you know thatCalifornia state Um just paying
to.
You know, go ahead and follow.
I love supreme ca on instagram,um, and on X as well.
Man, just go ahead follow them.

(57:23):
Follow them on bandcamp as well, because I know they put some
good things together.
Man, there's um some music ontheir bandcamp as well, and then
you can order a t-shirt Um aswell there, and then you know
the deal, deal the soul.
I think he just put out, yeah,did he just put out?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah, I think he put it out with thank you.
It's a album produced by lowtech, aka thank you, aka rascal
wallah.
Yeah, yeah, they put out a cuttogether.
It's amazing.
Please go support that.
It's it's, you're not gonnaregret it.
It's a really, it's a reallygreat vibe.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
It's a great vibe, yo .
The.
The cover art for this isinsane.
And then the name of the albumIs called the sun's out.
So I'm gonna link that in thedescription of the show as well,
so y'all can tap it to that.
And then I also saw the um, theother gentleman's album that,
uh, that y'all are celebratingto that I can't remember his
name, uh.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Uh, divine, divine science.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah, divine science, yeah.
So Yo man, y'all been on a run.
Yo, this is so crazy man Likeyo.
It's so amazing and inspiringto see y'all's, y'all work ethic
and what y'all been doing, andI'm just seeing it all online.
So in person I'll probably haveto have a camper van, you know,
just to, just to keep up withy'all.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
I'm waiting when we have a Golden mine on one of our
loved ones guest spots overhere, right, but you got.
You got to come down here androck with us.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Listen.
Um, I am going to be actuallyin LA May.
I think it's like this thirdweek in May.
So I'm not, I'm, I'm gonna try,I'm gonna chop it up with y'all
.
See what I can see what I cando, man Um yes.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Make it happen.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, so it's all family business.
But you know, after we takecare of family business, like
I'm gonna try, I'm gonnadefinitely try to link up with
y'all, so um please do man.
Where, where's where am I gonnabe at?
It's close to LA.
Um, it might be an hour outfrom LA, but I can drive this.
It's no worries, man.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
So yeah, it'd be an honor man, it'd be so so so dope
.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Definitely, man.
You know, I, I told um, I toldt dot.
Uh well, I think it was lastyear.
I was like yo, 2020, four isthe year I'm about to link up
with y'all.
Man, I gotta experience thisMyself, man, with my own.
What the kids say in IRL.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
In abbreviated real life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
That's so crazy, so crazy, man.
But yo man, um, let me ask youthis what Now we're gonna have
some new people tapping in man,some some at all different
levels of music creation um.
And they're probably gonna be,you know, just trying to figure

(01:00:22):
things out, what would yourecommend To the new mutants man
?
That that they, either, youknow, watch, they either listen
to or they read, to kind of helpthem along in their music
creation Journey?

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Yeah, man, I mean there's that's the beauty about
the world we live in now, with,with, you know, the internet,
you know so many, so manydifferent events that are, you
know, available to us now is,like you know for one, get out,
get out there and meet people,meet people that are just as
passionate about what you liketo do, you know, with their

(01:01:00):
craft and and and uh, and learnfrom them, you know, like that.
I think that was again one ofthe things that motivated me the
most.
I mean Hanging out with killerslike tdott, ainzoff and your
boy packs and black god 9 andsalente.
Like those are guys that arejust, like you know, just
monsters On on the beat, makingcraft and, and it's just a
constant motivator to me to belike all right, how did they do

(01:01:22):
that?
Like what's going on there, youknow, and then me going home
With that, that mind and thatfeeling and really trying to
hash it out in the way that I dothings, not necessarily
Certainly copying them, but likelearning right, like learning
off of it, incorporating it intowhat you like to do.
So definitely, get out there,you know, get inspired, you know

(01:01:42):
, and never stop learning.
Like that.
That's one of the things likeI've been playing guitar since,
like I, was about three, four.
I'm still opening up my skillsbook and discovering something
new.
And you know, after so manyyears of doing this, and you
know, and it keeps you humble Tothe point where you know you,
you grow a hunger for, forknowledge.
You know in music and andlearning, so it's the same thing

(01:02:04):
the beat making.
There's so many differentthings to learn, so many
different people you can learnoff of.
Don't be afraid to do that, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
All right, man, stay curious.
Ladies and gentlemen, like,stay curious, man.
Um, no matter what anybody says, just keep creating man.
Just keep, just keep creatingman.
It's gonna be people that don'tlike it.
It's gonna be people that loveit.
Man, you're not gonna pleaseeverybody Right, every joint

(01:02:33):
ain't gonna be a banger.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
It ain't gotta be.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Exactly.
That's the beauty of it is youcan make another joint after.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
If it's not, you know right, like you know, it's just
make it something that you like, you know, like yeah, um, who's
saying that man?
I think, uh, I think, um, wasit knife wonder?
I think knife wonder had asomething on ig where he was
talking about you know, peopletalking about kids sampling from

(01:03:02):
the 2000s and you know thewhole oh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I think I saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Yeah, the whole sampling thing, man.
I think that's it, man.
Well, we listen.
If you have streaming, you havethe ability to sample.
Go crazy, man, especially ifyou pay for it.
Go crazy, exactly.
You got millions of songsliterally in your pocket.
You better go crazy, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Yeah, man, absolutely .
And you know it's like.
It's like, it's like one ofthose things where don't don't
you know?
I know I had to learn not toget caught up with what you know
.
Sometimes you experience otherpeople's expectations of what
you're doing and it's like no,like that's not what it's about,
you know.
Like you know, there's noexpectations, like music is an

(01:03:46):
open platform for anybody, andjust like one of the books that
I've been reading lately that Ithink it's from Rick Rubin,
called the Creative Act he talksa lot about that to where it's
like, really, you know, you justhave to do it.
Like there shouldn't be like thenecessary, like game plan per
se.
I mean, obviously you set yourgoals and whatnot, but when it

(01:04:09):
comes to actually creating, likeyou just do it.
You know, and you're going tofind that, like, as long as
you're keeping consistent anddoing it, you're going to learn,
you're going to, you're goingto, you're going to perform
better, you're going to dobetter, and that's what it's
about, you know, spending thattime, putting in those, those
10,000 hours.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Right, yeah, yo.
Oh, actually I actually got toread that book, man, because a
lot of people have beenrecommending that book.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
It's great man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Yeah, I've been, I've been reading, I've been reading
money books lately, but oh,there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Hey, those are good too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, I've been reading.
Thank you, I've been.
What's the book I'm readingright now?
Think, oh, uh, napoleon Hill.
I can't even remember it.
Right now my bird is foggy, um,ok, but anyway, yeah, let's

(01:05:04):
talk about, regardless of whatit's called.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I hope it works and it gets you a lot of money that
exact, exactly, man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
So I got to ask you, and you know, last couple of
questions so we can wrap,because I know you've got things
to do.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
We, how can?
If there was?
Well, let's, let's talk aboutyou real quick.
How can do you have anyprojects on the way, you know
any, any type of things for 2024?
That's that's going to becoming out?

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Yeah, absolutely, man .
So, like we got, we'refinishing it.
Well, we actually just finisheda compilation album.
It's a love Supreme compilationalbum that's going to be
dropping, I think, next week, onthe 30th.
It's going to be a beat fromevery single one of us, which
I'm super excited about because,man, my guys, they don't let

(01:06:03):
down now Like they.
They have some fires, firebangers on there, so that
that'll be coming out and that'sgoing to be a lot of fun,
because please, look forward tothat and support it if you can
and are willing to.
And then I've been reallytrying to finalize, you know, a

(01:06:26):
group of tracks that I want toput out on my personal band camp
, titled to be determined.
Like you know, I still kind ofhave to tighten up all those
loose ends, but you know it'sgoing to be, again, you know, a
little different from what I'veprobably done before, but I'm
pretty excited about it, youknow.
So you know, once, once that'sready to go, it'll be posted up

(01:06:47):
all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yo, yo yo, I'm trying to tell you you know better.
Tap into Bernatopia.
He's been camp.
Hey, hey, listen, man, I don'tknow if y'all know this.
Let me.
Let me whisper to the, to theinternet real quick, but listen,
you can follow people's bandcamp profile.

(01:07:10):
Ok, get the app.
Go ahead, create an app orwhatever, and then follow them
and then you'll be able to getthe notifications when they're
announcing their new albums andannouncing new projects and
things like that, like you canbe in your newsfeed.
That's how I know about allthese albums that all these

(01:07:32):
meetings be putting out.
Man, that's the thing it's thebest man Like you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
sometimes you get messages unexpectedly.
Oh, another O Ricky tape.
Like I'm down for this one.
Right, shout out to O Ricky too, oh yeah, man.
I love that guy.
He's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Yeah, man, Like yo.
Yo follow them on the band camp.
I love Supreme Bernatopia.
Follow them on band camp,Follow them on the socials.
Actually, how can people, wherecan people find you on the
socials?
How can people tap into you?

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Yeah, for sure.
We, I have a.
You can find me on Instagram.
That's.
That's where I interact, Ithink, the most, for the most
part under burn the top three,and then I have the band camp
going on with pretty much all ofthe releases that I've done up
to date, and then I think I mayhave a couple of drops on like

(01:08:23):
through the Spotify and you knowall the digital platforms, and
then you can also find me onYouTube under BTT or burn the
top three, and I upload, likejust you know, little looseies
and stuff like that that I'll beinclined to upload on there.
So please feel welcome.
Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Okay, I'm going to tap it.
I'm going to tap it to yourYouTube man.
Yes, sir, I've just been.
I've just been posting some,some beats on there too, man,
just to get the crazy juicesflowing.
That's it on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
YouTube man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
And so, ok, follow, you follow is five, follow.
Burn the topiary on his socials.
Follow him on band camp.
Follow a love supreme.
Follow him on YouTube as well.
If there's, if there's onething, one jewel that you can

(01:09:16):
give the Internet's man, whatwould that be?

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Hmm, a jewel?
Yeah, I don't want to throw nocoals out there, just just just
some jewels, just so All right,so here, I guess I guess this
like you know whether whetherit's on topic with the beat
discussion or not, like ingeneral right, like as a human
being, you know things get toughand that's, that's a part of

(01:09:45):
life, but the key to toovercoming that is just to keep
going.
You know, don't let anythingstop you from what you're
passionate about.
Don't let anybody stop you fromdoing what you love to do and
and and be kind to each other.
You know, and thankfully, likeyou know, there's so many

(01:10:07):
avenues that people can, youknow, go to and be a part of,
and it's just a matter of takingthe time to look from and
you're going to find a lot oflike minded people that are
going to be very supportive andkind.
And man, like I can't tell youhow, how blessed I am, I can't
tell you how, how blessed we areout here with the communities

(01:10:28):
that we're we're, you know, apart of and support.
And, if I may, you know I wantto give a shout out to burgers.
And beats Duck World 808.
Organic beat sessions.
This is my, this is my beat inSan Diego.
Beats just because beat cinemabeat Mecca, analog.

(01:10:50):
Los Angeles party.
Ladies love loops.
Keep going.
Yeah, man, flip a beat club andplaying Jane records.
Man, like those are, those areour family man.
Like those, those people havebeen very supportive of what we
do at a love supreme and viceversa, like we, you know,
collectively all try to supportevery single one of those causes
, and then even out of state manthere's so many more to name

(01:11:13):
out of state, you know in Texas,in New York.
So you know, please like,support it, be a part of it.
Love life, have fun, have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
We're getting ready to close the main cabin door.
Prior to doing so, we do needall customers in their seat with
their seatboats fast.
The faster we can achieve thatis, the faster we can get off
the gate and get on our way toNew York.
Once again, at this time weneed all customers in their seat
with their seatboats.

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