K'Luv aka The Go

“Be a homie & let us know what you think”

Strap in for a symphony of stories as we welcome the extraordinary K' Luv aka THE GO Musician, Producer, Controllerise OG from the heart of Atlanta's music scene, to share his melodic journey from a trumpet-toting teen to a beat-making maestro. This episode is a rich tapestry woven with the sounds of a life dedicated to music, stitched together by family, cinematic scores, and an unshakable community spirit. K'Luv aka THE GO takes us on a tour through the influences that have shaped his unique sound, from the soulful Ohio music scene to the gritty grind of Atlanta, where every beat tells a story.

From early excitement over beat contests that push the envelope to the joy of an E-40 placement, this session pulses with the vibrant heart of an artist's milestones. We talk about how the evolution of technology has enhanced creativity and fostered connections within the beat-making community. K'Luv aka THE GO opens up about the challenges and soul-searching that come with putting your art out into the world, reminding us that it's the passion and individuality behind the music that truly makes it shine.

The episode crescendos as we pay homage to the artists who ignited our creative sparks—Prince's electrifying presence, the boundary-pushing sounds of progressive rock, and the innovative spirit of early electronic music. K'Luv aka THE GO recounts how these legends have influenced his current projects, including 'FreeDem Music' and 'StyTnd Vol. 1,' , 'A Wonky Wonderland(Season 1) and the profound impact they've had on his approach to crafting beats. Tune in for a session that's as much about the love of music as it is a nod to the power it has to inspire, heal, and bring people together.

Intro Music: "Rinse & Repeat" from Rinse & Repeat by Pootie & Nothing_Neue (Available Here)
Featured Music: Music from K'Luv aka THE GO's Discography (Available Here)
Social for K'Luv aka THE GO: @kluvakathego
Website: https://linktr.ee/kluvakathego

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:01):
What does that sound, you ass?

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated
to beat makers around the world.
Kick back, relax with the host,golden Mind.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Mechanized suits transforming into hot whips.
Get brain-duded maneuvering inthem.
Cockpits Cool if she dumbintelligent.
Still an option Brand beenestablished.
Working out the cabin,everything scheduled, eating up
off my passion, foods of mylabor, savored heavy accents
Readin' me shit be wow Wavin'back lit.

(01:36):
Catch Poo-D out in Dublin,money Dublin inside counting
machines.
Hear them shufflin' acid matechandelier.
Gleam Off the fungus, stay 700.
Stay on the run, shit.
Stay where the Wi-Fi good beatscomin', fuck it.
I record myself.
Need nothin' Merge gettin' made.
I'm pickin' out what I fuckwith.

(01:57):
Put it out the fun shitreinvestin' my duckets.
If I'm out in public, probablychasing hundreds.
If I'm inside gettin' cheese,gettin' blunted, gettin' in
songs right when I'm comfyKicking up quick.
I turn a nigga to lunch me Spitsome shit, get paid livin'
lovely.
Every year price go up, no cash,yeah, it's wild supply.

(02:20):
Last real cash Soon to bediesel pedals gettin' smashed,
switches got hit, droves slantedon the ad them boys, try hards,
never try ours.
Guns all registered train, samebennards, five-star
surveillance, state of the art,play some fragrant ride.
A couple bars, lights, somesage, open windows and doors.

(02:42):
Flights out to proc checkbitches' floors, different women
in different rooms, mad floors,business, still business.
See glow cars.
Maximize profits.
Rinse and repeat, rinse andrepeat, rinse and repeat.
Maximize profits.
Rinse and repeat Everydaydouble low, double low e-mail.

(03:04):
Maximize profits.
Rinse and repeat.
Negerance and repeat.
See glow cars.
Rinse and repeat.
Maximize profits.
Rinse and repeat, rinse andrepeat.
And we rinse and repeatBusiness, still business.
See glow cars Every other day,double low e-mail.
Every day.

(03:24):
Double low e-mail.
I will blow a nail.
I'll be a bitch man.
Come on, none of the precious.
I ain't like the clothes ofscratch man.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Shout out to Dilla Dilla.
Dog.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Dilla Dog, the reppin' the wrong.
You know what I mean.
Yeah.
Midwest guy, you know what I'msaying.
Like every four plays all that.
You know what I mean.
Two on three to three, three-oh, so we do yeah you know what
I'm saying yeah, that's a shitshow.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So let's get it, man.
Let's get it to it, man.
So listen yo.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcometo the very first interview
episode of the Rex show podcast,season four.
Man, I'm your host, goldie Mindman.
This is season four, man 2024.
So I thank y'all for tapping inwith us taking off or, you know,

(04:37):
sharing it, liking it,subscribing all that jazz man,
thank you for supporting Yo.
Man, last year was crazy.
So if you haven't listened toseason one, season two, season
three, tap into the archive, man.
They're going to be thereforever.
You know what I mean, for thealiens can come, they can listen
to them too.
The galaxies can listen to theinterviews and stuff like that

(04:59):
today.
So, and also check out the lasttwo episodes, episode 114 and
115.
Those are my end of the yearbeat tapes or instrumental
albums of 2023.
So I did the first one andthere was so much dope music I
had to come back and do a second, second joint man.

(05:20):
So y'all tapping it at whereveryou get podcasts, but yo, let's
get into today's guest man.
Yo, today we are going toAtlanta by way of Kent, in Ohio,
man, this guy has been doingthis thing for a while, man,
I've been a fan, a personal fanfor a couple of years.
You know he's on a koala man.

(05:43):
He's, you know, on the SPZ he'sdoing he's all over the all
over the map when it comes toproduction, but he's a musician,
first beatmaker, yummy musicproducer, sound crafter, beat
geek, whatever you want to say,man.
He's a fourth of the brotherscommittee, and if y'all know who
that is, we're going to getinto that during the interview,

(06:06):
man, but we also got he's amember of the controllerized mod
.
If y'all know what thecontrollerized is, and if you
live in Atlanta, you shouldsmack yourself, man, because yo,
they've been doing some crazystuff with controllerized, and
they just got back doing thething in house and kind of like

(06:26):
this arcade open kind ofbusiness, flea market type of
thing is, though, that theenergy I see online is crazy man
.
So he's a part of that man.
I mean you ought to justrecognize that, but yo, let's
give it up for the one and onlyK lover, aka the go Welcome to

(06:50):
the show.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo .
What's up?
Y'all what's up?
Yeah, we're in the buildingwith the golden one, what's that
?
Glad to hear from you, bro,glad to hear from the community
what's happening.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Absolutely, man.
Yo, welcome Yo.
Finally, I get to chop it upwith you, man.
They don't even know that youthe first episode of the 2024.
So say, it's real.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Hey man, that's real in the field.
Man Just grateful to be here.
You know what I'm saying.
Blessings to everybody.
You know what I'm saying.
I hope everybody's doing well.
Bless yourself, brother.
You've been grinding my man.
See you out here.
You know what I mean.
Let's get it.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Man, I appreciate it.
Man, listen, it's yummy, it'sfor us.
You need to pull it back some,so when they don't see me online
, that's what I'm pulling thebest family time.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Hey, man, you got to get the grind in whenever you
can get it and everything else,and do the best at it that you
can.
You know what I mean.
It's all good.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Exactly, man.
So, yo, man, I only gave them,I only gave the Internet a
little bit of you know who youare.
But for those that don't know,they need to slap themselves
right now, but after thisthey're going to go tap into
your discography and thewebsites and all that jazz man.
But for those that don't knowwho you are, the beatheads that

(08:20):
don't know who you are, can youjust let them know, like, where
did you go?
How did you come up withK-Lover, AKA the Go?
You know, like, how long youbeen making beats, and we'll get
into some more stuff after that, though.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Hey, man, that's cool .
You know what I'm saying.
I'm glad you asked thatquestion, fam.
I started out man, beyond thesituation.
I can't know how.
You know what I mean.
It was a thing of like,traditionally that was like a
jazz musician and stuff likethat, with the trumpet stuff,
and the self-taught drummer grewup in a musical home.
That was a multi-talentedmusician.

(09:00):
Mother was a great singer, andthen got family members and
stuff that are predominantmusical people and stuff like
that and so, like you know,brothers, aunts, uncles, you
know staying everything else,and so it was kind of like a
musical confab of like familything and that was kind of like

(09:20):
what we live by for the mostpart and you know I'm saying it
was just kind of like it wasjust a way of life for the most,
for the most man.
You know I'm saying I reallygot.
I really dug deep intoproduction, I think in my early
teen years, like my, when Ibecame like 17, 18 years old

(09:42):
kind of thing, and that's kindof when I started like really
delving into beats, Like therewas there was movies out like
like Belly, and like when youhad the roots like things from a
Park album and Nori, the Noriand REE album and all in my deep
stuff and all the biggie stuffand everything else.

(10:04):
I was really.
I was really intrigued on theway of production and how are
these guys doing this stuff withlike beats and stuff like that?
I'm like I'm seeing my brother.
I have a brother that was knownin the music community and
stuff like that.
I've done stuff for like a lotof, a lot of notable artists and

(10:26):
stuff like that and I wasaround that.
I was around that situation andI was always trying to be like
close to that and like try tounderstand like where they were
going with it.
And then I ended up inheritingit and then, like my cousin,
shockingly enough, that was intown.

(10:48):
Hey, you know, I'm saying Southto show star media, me and him
and myself, where we're paying alot of attention to a lot of
light with my brother, and thenwe're doing and we kind of like
develop the thing to where thisis kind of like we wanted to
start doing beats too, and likemy brother kind of put me up on

(11:08):
game and stuff, even though mebeing a Jeff, which is like, hey
, look, man, you doing thetrumpet stuff and that's cool
and everything else.
You need to really get into thisproduction game.
And I'm like, oh, production,what is that?
You know what I'm saying?
Just kind of showing me theropes on it and it's like
started on the in Sonic in March61 and everything else, man.

(11:32):
And then we just started kindof building back home in Ohio
and it was like during the timewe're like bone thugs and honey
and stuff.
They were hitting girl heavy.
There was a lot of notablepeople that was around and was
doing stuff and then so itbecame a thing, and then just
really kind of gotten bookedinto it.
And then there was a car scene.

(11:53):
If anybody knows about Staleeand stuff like that, there was a
car scene back then too.
So we just kind of likeintricate it the car scene and
like that type of music to whereit's just like, if you make it
beats and stuff like that andeverything, you need to make
some stuff that like smack inthe whip.
If it didn't smack in the whip,you weren't doing that, he

(12:13):
wasn't doing that.
It's like it's got a smack inthe whip man and what is like
making the word smack in thewhip, but then you put a
positive message out there andit was like it was working out.
So I mean, that's kind of whereit started on.
We listened to a lot of stuffNortheast Ohio, mostly rock
based, you know I'm saying, andso we listened to a lot of

(12:37):
different stuff, man.
But yeah, that was kind of likethe start.
You know, start a few gospelstuff.
You know I'm saying my mom waslike a, you know I'm saying
choir director, gospel singerwho pops, was like a multi
talented musician, that kind ofthing.
We kind of just grew up withlike a lot of early 60s, 70s,

(12:58):
like early 80s stuff, that kindof thing.
But I'm sure we'll get intothat Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Wow, man, shout out to your mom and dad, your
brother, man, putting you on too, man, yeah, I can't go no
further without saying, you knowme, happy birthday to your moms
, you know?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Oh man, I appreciate it.
Man, she's gonna love that thisis the best birthday she ever
had.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Thank you for that man.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
My mom's man, yo, because yo man, life is fast man
.
So you guys, you got to lovethem while we got them.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Hey, man, it's great.
It's the most beautiful thingin the world.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, man, so okay.
So you got, man.
Trumpet is my.
You know what I mean?
I love the trumpet.
I grew up playing the trumpet.
Awesome, you know what I'msaying?
I still haven't got, I stillgot to get one.
But, man, what was it about thetrumpet that you like that drew

(14:04):
you to it?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
The soul of, like, the things that you can do with
three valves, man, and the waysyou can go with it within your,
your, your creative ability ofit's.
It's basically it was basicallypushing yourself.

(14:28):
And see, I was a huge fan ofMiles Davis and like Lee Morgan
and a lot of those guys andstuff like that man with a lot
of different fusion jazz beforeMiles Davis became fusion jazz
and I was cool with like thestraight ahead stuff and it was

(14:48):
just a thing that was like Ithink the movie Mobile Blues
inspired me a lot.
I see, like that inspired me alot.
And then, like, like I said,the same brother was like hey,
man, you need to play thetrumpet.
And then I have an uncle that's, that's a normal saxophonist

(15:10):
and I was never a hit to thesaxophone, too tough I could
play it.
But the trumpet to me it felt acertain type of way man to where
it's just kind of like it spoketo my identity, as much as I
want to admit it.
Like between that and drummingthe trumpet, it was a way of

(15:35):
expression.
And then once I, once Iactually embraced it and
everything else, it felt like apart of my being.
It felt like a part of my beingand then I just took it on from
there and it's then took melevels to where awards, medals

(15:56):
you know what I'm saying Certainrecognition, accolades,
everything else I'm grateful andI'm proud to have achieved from
hardworking, dedication man,and I wouldn't take like those
experiences, man, I wouldn'ttake them for granted for
anything in the world.
I really wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Wow, wow.
Yeah.
See, this is why we have thesecards, Because nobody else would
have known Like you and I arean accomplished trumpeter, Like
oh man.
Okay, so those three vowels.
Here's the thing about thetrumpet, Because I grew up in

(16:38):
band with the three vowels, butthen in church we had a bugle
that didn't have any vowels.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Clacks Right.
So yeah, yeah, that part.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
So I was like, I was so like drawn to.
I'm like yo, how am I able toblow what I want to blow?
And I don't have any vowelswith this.
And now, and you know what Imean, like it was just, I was
just mind blowing as a kid Ithink I was, maybe, you know, 12
, 13.
I'm just like yo, this isamazing.

(17:12):
And then I started getting intohip hop and everything like
that.
So then it was like, wow,because hip hop back in the day
and it still is but they wereall about jazz, they was about
jazz Clacks, you know what Imean, stuff like that.
So you hear all of the liveinstrumentation and stuff like
that.
So, like, was that?
Was that the same for you whenyou were, you know, just around

(17:34):
listening to music and then thishere in the trumpet everywhere.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Definitely definitely make this like okay, so you,
you was a church cat, like thesame as I was, and like when you
first started out with musicand everything else.
It's like I don't know if it wasthe same experience for you,
but I started out with a kazoo,oh, wow, and, and then I moved
up to a harmonica and then I goton the trumpet and then I

(18:02):
started learning self-taughtdrums, so yeah, and then
thinking from there, but it waslike it was more of a feeling,
it was more of a feeling manduring those times and stuff
like that.
And then like, see, withouttelling my age, and stuff like
that, I grew up in the era of Ihad a best friend that was like

(18:27):
stayed around the corner for me,like literally across the
street for me one of my bestfriends, Salisle Eland Johnson.
You know what I'm saying?
He was, he was a piano player,organist, kid, and so he would,
he would be playing and stufflike that at his home.
Meanwhile, we had like a wholemusic store, like right around

(18:51):
the corner back home and wewould like listen to like a lot
of the hard rock guys sittingthere riffing and stuff like
that and everything else, andwe'll just be outside playing.
And here those rock guys playingand stuff with guitars and
drums and everything else, hairband type stuff.
But they have differentmelodies and we would never

(19:14):
think about it.
As kids we were in, mind you,this is like we're like five
years old, six years old,something like that, right, and
so we're like, hey, man, thatsounds really cool and we would
try to intricate that into whenwe go to church and kind of, if
it was melodic or if it was, itwas, you know, I'm saying

(19:36):
drum-wise we would try tointricate that into the church
move and at them times.
And you, hey, if you're achurch cat, you know we weren't
allowed to play that type ofstuff.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
We weren't allowed to play that type of stuff but we
split it off.
But it was a fun move intowhere now today is pretty common
and so like that's kind ofwhere I got the inspiration from
.
Like I listened to a lot of, alot of Phil Collins, genesis the

(20:16):
police was always around a lotof like Toto and a lot of the
old school stuff back in thedays and everything else that
were like the pop, the pop musicvibe, and that's what kind of
drew the inspiration.
Then me and my brothers, youknow I'm saying we would sit

(20:39):
there and be like watchingmovies and stuff to, and we were
getting inspiration from that.
And then it transcended towardsthe site OK, we want to make
this musical then and we justmade a musical, that's all.
And it transitioned to, likeyou know our cousins that you
know we're cool with everythingelse, man and it became a thing.

(21:04):
That's what we live by.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Wow, Wow, man Like that.
Those experiences are pricelessand I'm pretty sure you still
pull from those experiences whenyou're creating today.
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh, for sure, For sure, like it's the greatest
thing, because that's why I loveour beat making community and I
watch everything and I see whateverybody's doing and I get, I
get inspired from, like all thenew creators, man, even though I

(21:40):
might not come out and say it,I pay attention to a lot of
stuff, man and like everybody islike just heading on it, man,
and I love it.
I love it.
I was, I was just what DJRehanda today and we were
talking about, like you know,the way how the beat community

(22:02):
has progressed and everythingelse, to where there was a time
where it was stagnant, but nowit wasn't stagnant in a bad way,
but like how stuff used to bein the mid to late 90s and early
2000s, to where it is now, towhere it is.
This is kind of like very, veryopen and it's really freaking

(22:22):
cool man.
It's really cool Like shadowsto D B O C man, like shadows to
Merrick man for creating koala.
You know saying much love, muchlove to my man's, uh, much love
to my man's man, like koala becast.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You know I'm saying Remy Z yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, oh, remy, man, remy is my guy man, Like all of
us, all of us together, man, andit's like that's what it's all
about these days.
You know what I'm saying and Ireally, I really love this
community.
I really love it.
I really love it.
Like everything that we'redoing is it's like the best
thing in the world.
I'm sorry, man, I, you know, Iramble sometimes.

(23:08):
It's cool, it's cool.
I'm very happy about it.
Yeah, man, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yo, we need to be happy about these things, man.
It's just progression.
You know what I mean.
Things.
Technology is opening up somany different things, man, and
connected us even more.
Like you you, if you watch thenews, it'd be a yoist.
Technology is tearing us apart,it's doomsday situations and

(23:32):
stuff like that.
But if you know, you pull backand coming back into the beat
community, it's connecting us.
Yeah, I mean we able tocommunicate, we able to have,
you know, con beat contest.
You know what I mean, Like theydid with.
You know that Remy hosted andDibi Asti hosted.
You know what I mean, when itwas Koala versus SP and MPC

(23:56):
versus machine.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Hey man Yo yes.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Hey yo, the first one was so freaking crazy.
The second one was even nuts,it was even more crazy.
The first one, though, that waslike that trial period, man yo,
that that right there was, thatwas a, that was a maneuver man,
you know what I'm saying.
A lot of people like I knowthis, I know this at all, man,

(24:26):
Like some people type into itGolden, but like that first one
man, that was something special.
Yeah.
Yeah, that first one wassomething special.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Man, it was so wrong.
Man Like yeah, yeah, yeah, oh,my gosh man, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yo, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Team Machine had to snatch it from you all you know
what I'm saying.
Like hey, you know what?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
It's not even about the victories and everything
else.
It's all because everybodyLinko and everybody and like
dude and know each other andlink up with each other man.
Yeah, that's the ultimate goal,man, but it's always cool to
have like that, you know, I'msaying that spirit of
competition.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we tell you it's iron cypress, iron
man, exactly.
Exactly, yo, if we wasn'tinspired you know what I mean
Before doing the contest and yo,like I don't know what's going
to inspire you, bro, becauseeverybody got the same sample
and you had to flip.

(25:34):
Like, come on, man, likethere's people flip that thing
multiple ways and never the same.
Yo, for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh, by the way too, by the way too, don't tell
nobody.
There's something, there'ssomething else coming, that's
coming soon.
Can't talk about it Like for acouple Now, even more.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, stay tuned.
Y'all stay on your dolls, y'allstay on your dolls and y'all

(26:08):
stay on your stuff.
That y'all do and be the bestthat you can be added.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Ew, oh see the premiere.
You got a little taste, you gota little teaser.
You know something coming, man,y'all better tap in man, yo man
, you just never know, you justnever, know, there's some things
that's a foot that you justnever know.
Oh man, All right.
Yeah, I don't even know what itis and I'm excited.

(26:36):
What?

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Just hey, just imagine.
Whatever it is that you use,that's good for you, master it
and be great at it.
And then just so long to thosethat want to learn.
And that's just as simple,right?
It don't matter about theequipment, it's all in the mind,
man.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Exactly the man or the woman behind the machine and
that's exactly, yeah, okay, soyo, man, we can get all that.
Yo I got to talk to you about,um, because you know we got a
lot of young, brand new beatmakers, musicians and composers

(27:19):
coming into the, coming into thefold.
Oh, for sure, For sure.
I wanted to ask you about, um,you know, like when, when did
you think you were ready to putout your music so people, can,
you know, listen to it?
Like, what was that experience?
Like what was that, thatjourney like?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Man, um, I think I got, I pretty much got
comfortable, I'm gonna honestlysay, because I'm with a lot of
pitfalls, man.
Um, I had to, I had to sitthere and and do a lot of soul
searching on things andeverything else, man, and, um,

(28:05):
it's honestly, it told me aminute.
It told me a minute is like Ihad been sitting there and
producing beats since like like1999, 2000 ish per se, and
that's where I was kind of likelearning things.
Salislam, my cousin, blackcloud and you know, saying the
homie are dub.
We were doing stuff back inthose days and everything else,

(28:30):
man, like even with like musicgenerator and all that other
stuff.
And you know, I'm sayingSalislam, my cus show store,
media again, um, we were, wewere figuring out things, but I
was super duper hardware aboutstuff and it took a minute to

(28:50):
kind of really kind of like fillout stuff for years, man, until
it kind of came to fruition.
Um, it didn't really hit.
To be honest with you, like Iwas, I want to say I was like I
started at like around 20, butit didn't really hit my mouth

(29:12):
until, like I became like 20,but then it really started
ramping up once I got the um.
Once I got the placement withlike E 40 and Yuck mouth and
sleep day and and that happened,that happened like 2013.
Wow, so it took.
It took a minute, man, it tooka minute, but you know what I'm

(29:36):
saying.
There's other stuff along theway that that was going on, but
like once I got that E 40placement and stuff like that
and um, that pretty much kind offilled in a lot of stuff and
everything else Granted, likewith brothers committee tells uh

(29:57):
, my guy, bro, uh, who me?
You know what I'm saying.
We were doing battle circuitstuff and everything else for a
minute and it just seemed likeit wasn't quite hitting per se.
And then so I started ended upbeing like on um, I started
being a brand rep for for Istand or if, if anybody knows

(30:20):
about I stand or you know why doI remember that?
Um, he was came out of that Isaid oh, that's um everybody,
that's that.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Oh, mine was in that too.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, okay, yeah, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
All those guys.
They hatched the homie says allthem and it was like it was the
ice standard thing, that kindof.
Really it started Well, not somuch kickstart, but like it is
extremely pushed the maneuver oflike all right, let's start
doing the stuff and producersthat are producers start linking

(31:00):
with each other.
And then next thing, you know,it's like it made.
It made me mess, running up mygame on stuff, and then that's
how I end up starting gettingplacements.
You know I'm saying.
And then you know I'm sayingwhat, what, what?
Talk about the ladder part ofthat that benefited from that.

(31:23):
You know I'm saying, or howeverelse, but yeah that's pretty
much how it started.
Man like um Was was in New York2011 with at Sony at 550,
madison and everything else, man, and there was a lot of stuff

(31:44):
that was going on.
Man, we're like productionstuff, man, and you know I'm
saying it's like sometimes youjust living, you learn and then
go to school and learn stuff andand do better and that's it.
And then For the, for the, forthe young generation, everything
else, man don't, don't be um,don't be against learning new

(32:05):
things and Vietnam, knowledge orstuff there.
If you have to learn schoolingand stuff like that man guy and
take, take the advantage ofdoing it.
You know it's okay, nobody'sgonna fault you for it, but I, I
Honestly push Everybody.
Lose our everybody knowing likemusic theory, learning music

(32:26):
theory and picking up aninstrument and actually being
cool instrument and knowing theinstrument so it can work to
your, your benefit.
That's it.
You know, I'm saying you don'thave to always be on the
instrument, but as long asyou're nice at it and everything
else, it opens up doors for allother like all other Other

(32:49):
stuff that you can do.
That's all.
Yeah, I can go on and on and onabout that, but yeah, yeah,
yeah man.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
So I here's a, here's a just a random question what
would you say so far in yourcareer?
Because you know you justscratching the surface on your
career, but what would you say?
You are like a couple or a fewof your key milestones when it
comes to you know your musicaljourney.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Man, that e40 placement was pinnacle.
That was pinnacle.
That was pinnacle at the timethat I got it.
It was pinnacle.
And there was other stuff thatI got On top of South.
You know saying much, lettingthat drape.
You know saying this in peaceUm, you know, say, south

(33:46):
suburbia.
That was a very pinnacle pointin my life Because of the fact
of a lot, of, a lot of my hardwork and dedication and stuff
like that.
It seemed like it made sense.
After that point, it made awhole lot of sense.

(34:06):
I did things in 2010 andeverything else.
Some of my work has been copied.
I won't mention the name andI'm gonna put people out there
like that.
I'm not that type of guy, butthis it's a known cut that I've

(34:27):
created and I just want to knowmy stuff and so that's why I
tell you know I'm saying up andcumbers and stuff like that, be
about your business andeverything was because you just
never know, man, I Took a L onthat one and it's all cool it,
but it was a learning experience.
I Took my, I took my butt toschool.

(34:49):
I learned what I need to learnSouth SAE, atlanta Institute.
You know I'm saying and andthat's pretty much be good
people with everybody, man, and,and, and the main thing about
it is Without with within allthis stuff and everything else

(35:10):
and this, this art and craftthat we love and Love and endure
, and everything else Never withpeople and just be open to
ideas.
Be open to ideas, man.
You just never know.
Everybody don't know it off.
You know.
I'm saying even, even, even,even being older, and stuff like

(35:30):
that and everything else.
You know everything.
You know.
I'm saying sometimes it'd besome of the young generation
mess around and you know, say itbe the young teenagers and
Upcomers and stuff like thatthat put you up on game or stuff
.
But I will say, young teenagers, up a cumbers, start great
digging again, great diggin.
It's fine, that's.

(35:51):
I Can't stress it enough.
You'll be surprised of what youresearch instead of research
and social media so much.
Go on them crates, start goingto these record stores, see what
you can find, look, look atcertain things or whatever else,

(36:14):
and you'll be surprised of someof your favorite artists.
The part of stuff that that theywere a part of that you that
were popular lies Well before wegot popular and that was some
of their best work a lot of thetime, like I just had a

(36:36):
conversation about this earliertoday.
I'm like Phil Collins, forinstance, before using Genesis,
oh man, he was in a wholeanother group that he crushed.
That a lot of people have noidea and I won't even say it on
the podcast.
I won't say it.
I won't say who the band isthis?

(36:56):
That's up.
We want to know.
No, yeah, I got big for thatone I got big for that one.
I got big for that one.
But it's a heat, though fireY'all gonna hear.

(37:18):
Y'all gonna hear some of it.
I'm gonna soon.
But there's some stuff in thereanything else for a lot of your
artists that you appreciate andeverything else that y'all love
, that they were in the Primarygroups, that were in the
forefront, that they were inother bands and stuff like that.
There were other bands thatthey were at actually at their

(37:42):
best and that's how they endedup in those bands that you know
about.
And yeah, man, like, forinstance Now this is a gem I'll
give, this is a gem I give goldmine.
This gem I give, I'll give thisone up, I'll give this one.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Drumroll please.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
But shout Sadella Dilla month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go.
Yeah, man, stuart Copeland Ifyou guys have ever listened to
anything of staying from thepolice and everything else, we
Sir Stuart Copeland.
He was the drummer for them.

(38:26):
He has a nice history.
I'll leave you with that.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
The word Copeland everybody.
Yes go ahead and search that up.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, and he had a.
He had a.
He had a group.
There was a trio with him,stanley Clark if those who know
Stanley Clark, the guy that didthe sound score for a boys in
the hood yeah, yeah, he had awhole group with them and a

(38:58):
female singer, chick.
That was really really good.
But yeah, they had a wholegroup and, as it's official, so
that's a gem I will get.
But Stanley Clark, man, mindyou, stanley Clark also was the
sound score for a passenger.
57 with With what she says yeah, Yo, Yo man.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Okay yo, Stuart Copeland.
Yo, I was gonna give it to himright now, but yeah, let me just
, Let me let you, let me lety'all, let me let y'all dig man.
You know K lovers, right man,yeah, y'all got dig for this.
Wow man, nice dude man Wow yeahokay, okay, so you know you

(39:49):
doing, you know well, first ofall, let's go back to you know
the, the placement that you got,which was a game changer for
you.
But in the middle of you know,before that happened, and you
were going through all of thosesituations, what, what, what

(40:11):
would you attribute to youpushing, continuing to push
forward and Not give up on?
You know, I mean what youbelieve in, what your dream and
your pursuits, what, what wouldyou attribute that to?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I Love the music man, the love the music.
My um mom, my mom, alwayssupported me on stuff and my
father you know that rest hissoul Always stayed on me About

(40:48):
stuff.
You know, sam, my brothers, mybrothers, always did the same
thing too.
It's kind of like even my wholefamily, we, we always moved by,
we moved our lives by musicsoundtrack somehow some way.
You know I'm saying it's likeif I'm walking down the street I

(41:11):
have a Sound score in my head.
You know I'm saying even fromskateboarding.
It's just a thing for my family.
You know I'm saying on bothsides.
You know I'm saying Do have acousin not sitting a bragging,
but I have a cousin that'sGrammy award winning artist and

(41:32):
she moves the same, she movesthe same way and but we're just
all pretty much like even killedAbout stuff.
But this like it's a way oflife, man, when you love, when
you love the art that you've,you've been blessed with and
everything else, the art is inthe job.

(41:53):
It's just, it's a part of you.
And so, even even when you wantto give it up sometimes and you
feel defeated, yeah, you can'tgive it up cuz it's part of you.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Maybe I cut your arm off.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
you understand yeah exactly so you just got to go in
, man, he's just.
You know what, whenever youfeel like, oh man, I'm not
enough, you go harder, pause.
You know I'm saying you just goharder, man.
You know I'm saying Everybodyain't gonna like you.
You know I'm saying everybodygonna accept you.

(42:33):
But for those that do you know,I'm saying you do it for them
and you do it for yourself.
And you love that and you loveit and you embrace it and you
share it to the world, andthat's, that's the ultimate goal
, man, you know that's all tomake a hole.
I.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Think I think a lot of people miss that what you
just said, which was you know,if you love it, it's not really
a job.
But then also, you know, if younot, everybody's gonna like you
, make it.
You know I'm saying make it forthose, hey, you like it.
If you like it, alright, shareit.

(43:16):
Some people are gonna mess withit, some people not, but Don't
pay attention to the ones thatDon't like it, cuz it's a lot of
people that could, that arelooking at you but they ain't
saying nothing.
They take notes.
Yeah so, but they, they like, yo, damn like he, he or she is
really doing anything man Like,but they don't want to say they

(43:39):
don't want to give that to you.
You know, I mean, but it'speople that are supporting you,
the ones that that do say, yo,this album is fire, or you know,
I love what you did with thissong, or this song is my, you
know, wake-up song, or you know,whatever it may be, whether
it's art or whatever, I Knowyou're the ones that, those are

(43:59):
the ones that are important,because those are the ones that
understand it.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
They're they're not thinking from a mainstream
aspect of it, they're thinkingfrom like a connection aspect of
it.
It's a connection thing, man.
You know I'm saying it's likeTake, like take the artist, but
separate the artist from the art.
Hmm, if you, if you dig the art, rock with the art, you know

(44:27):
I'm saying it is what it is.
You know I'm saying it like hey, look man, spatially it might
seem like, oh man, let's do thistough, but at the same time
though, it's like it's tough fora reason, because it's got
cares, cares about people.
You know I'm saying, and theone thing I strive on, and why

(44:50):
I've always strived on in all ofmy productions and any of my
projects, if people wouldactually take the time to pay
attention To all the artwork.
By the way, hey, love 330, dotbandcamp, dot Cal.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Oh tap in yeah, we go get into that, yeah, you know
I'm saying guys, go plug itagain.
I had to, man, I had to I hadto.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I had to, but not the music, the music Cality, part
of it, like my, the productionthat I do and everything else.
It tells the story.
It speaks to the common man, itspeaks to the common person, it
speaks to the common woman.
You know, I'm saying it speaksto everybody, to where it's just

(45:35):
like you fill in some type ofway or whatever else.
If you don't speak, the factthat you don't talk, that's okay
.
There's music that speaks foryou.
You know, I'm not a huge talker, I'm really not.
I'm not a huge vocalist typecat, even my, my son.

(45:55):
I have a 17 year old son.
17 year old son, uh, southpokie, christian Christian
Nicholas Stokes.
What's up?
Yeah, what's up yeah?
Yeah, you know I'm saying babyboy, a little cake, a little
love.
You know I'm saying like my son, he, you know, I mean he's,
he's one of those guys, he'sreally into the car stuff and

(46:17):
he's a tello player also and hedon't really talk too much.
So it's like when you makemusic and stuff like that you
take, when you're especially,you're creative, like yourself,
golden, it's like you alreadyknow why it is, bro, like you
don't technically make musicjust for yourself, you make
music technically for monthsthat technically can't speak for

(46:41):
themselves, but they Speak forthemselves artistically.
That makes it easy sense, thatmakes sense.
You know I'm saying it's like aman, everybody good at voicing
certain things.
They move by action and andthat's fine.
And if you're doing that, dothat.

(47:01):
You know I'm saying cuz there'snothing wrong with it and must
got you back, kind of thing.
You know I'm saying my fault,my fault, but I ain't know I
sometimes I can go off thebeaten path, hey.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I stopped.
I stopped you Because we needthis man.
You know me, like yo, we needsomebody, need to hear this,
obviously.
So, yo, I'm gonna just let itrock, man Yo, speaking of
Speaking, of Making music, youknow me, for you know for sure

(47:34):
for everybody I Gotta talk toyou about.
Well, I'm gonna ask you aboutthis question and we're gonna
get into your own music, themusic that inspired you.
I know one of the one of the no, you already named a few groups
or individuals, miles, davis,and cast like that.

(47:57):
What.
Who really like If you had to?
Is there one Beat or one song,or maybe a couple beats or a
couple songs that when you heardit, it really just flipped a
switch and just you know, me waslike yo, this is so far like I

(48:19):
want to do this, or just blewyour mind.
You know and you, and it stillresonates to this day.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I Don't really man that seat.
For me that's a tough one,because One one song off the top
of my head.
But then I have.
I have Innovator.
That really inspired me.
But before that innovator camein, I had one person.

(48:46):
Hey, i'ma tell you who that oneperson is.
Are you all ready for it?
Ready we?
Ready.
Prince pop life.
Hey, prince, prince has alwaysbeen like my go to, always

(49:08):
Prince that pop life.
Everybody get you down.
Prince always been one of myfavorites, always, yeah, prince,
anything Prince has has donegrowing up, because my mom was a

(49:28):
huge Prince fan.
Yeah, my too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like my mom was a heavyPrince fan, like his, my mom and
so started media as mom, they,sisters, they.
They went to a snowstorm to gosee Prince at Kent State
University back in the day inthe 70s.
So it was like Prince and that'swhat we know.

(49:50):
But like Prince was like my oh,he was my guy, even with take
me, with yeah, oh, and all thatlike his musicality, the
musicality of Prince andeverything else.
I took that on like I rememberbeing a kid going to the music,

(50:11):
going to the movie theater andseeing Purple Rain and seeing it
first hand, even through thequote, unquote, new parts.
Yeah, because I'm only a swine,excuse me.
I believe that yeah, but yeah,but no, the movie is like no the
music the musicality part of it, man, like just how that whole

(50:32):
situation was and everythingelse, man, it's like the
musicality of it.
I was always like a Prince cat.
Stevie Wonder was a was a greatinfluence.
Obviously I was a huge fieldcollege in a city.
Obviously I was a huge fieldcollege Genesis fan, george Duke

(50:53):
, a lot, a lot of jazz stuff, alot of forward, forward ahead
stuff.
Staying in the police.
I listen to a lot of like likeKaja Google, you know, saying if
anybody ever watched RiskyBusiness or any of the old
school, six, eighties, teenmovies and stuff like that, yeah

(51:14):
, jim's, I'm giving Jim's upright now, yeah, Risky Business.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
That's Tommy Davidson right.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
No, no Risky Business .
Tangerine Dream dude.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Oh, ok, a different, different movie, oh.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
OK, yeah, and you talk about strictly business.
Strictly business OK yeah, yeah, yeah, strictly business,
that's a classic to that is.
Yeah well, holly Berry.
Yeah, South to Northeast Ohio.
Yeah that's right, baby.
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, no, man.

(51:46):
It's just like we doing theMayby's joints and stuff like
that man, like we doing withTangerine Dream and those type
of those type of situations.
Van Jellis and I push on theyounger generations start
looking into like a lot of thesame way of guys from back in

(52:08):
those days.
They were, they were veryforward thinking when stuff like
that and that's what seems likeCoachella, like even the
Coachella crowd is pretty muchgoing into, and even with the
Nam crowd, what like the newwage, the new age way of like
technology and stuff and becreating and stuff like that.

(52:29):
That's where it's going to.
It's kind of like bringing the,the older stuff from back in the
day, when they didn't have thetechnology, to nowadays.
We have technology and they'rebringing it back and it's love
and I'm loving every bit of it.
But a homage to Then theinitial and then that's all

(52:55):
they're asking.
That's all they're asking aboutit because if it wasn't for
them, we wouldn't be where we'reat now.
Beyond which, phil Collins,phil Collins, and I'm sorry to
go on on or on about it, butlike Phil Collins and like
Stuart Colquinn and even DannyKerry from like the drummer from

(53:16):
like the band Tool and NeilPerd from Rush.
If it wasn't for those guys,those guys was working off the
semis as the five electric drumsand stuff like that back in the
day, before it was even popular.
And now you got cats this likeyou know, saying like the count

(53:38):
shout out to the count, shoutout to Katelyn Ellis, they're
killing that, kill us.
They're killing right now EvenTony Royce, your junior killing
it.
They're killing it right nowwith that and I'm like yep, see,
that's what I'm talking about.
That part, yeah, you know whatI mean.

(54:01):
But hey, who?
Yeah, man, I'm sorry.
Like I said, I can go back inred for days, man, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Here's the end of this.
No notice, man, but a littleinside information, right?
So the podcast cover isbasically like this futuristic
type portal type of thing, right, but it's always has purple in
it.
That purple is a dedication tomy mom who loves Prince.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Love, love all day.
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, man.
So yo I can't like yo, that's.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
all we was listening to was Prince and Mary J and
Palliabelle, let's go All ofthem man so my mother and social
media's mom went back in theday they went to Kista
University.
Fun fact, they went to KistaUniversity in a snowstorm when

(55:03):
Prince was like young, superyoung.
They went to the Prince concertin a snowstorm to go to that
show, to go see him, wow yeah.
And Kista.
University back home in Ohio.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Ohio ain't got no little snowstorms neither.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
No, no, it was, it was mad, it was mad crazy.
Yeah, they was in, they was ina VD.
My mom told me herself and shewas like yo, me, yo, aunt Mina
and that's, by the way, my AuntMina, yeah, jazz singer, was
signed to Sony 550.
Shout out to Aunt Mina, man.

(55:43):
Shout out to her man.
That's my sweetheart.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't tell her this.
I love her dearly.
But, yeah, no man, no, they,they.
They went in a snowstorm to gosee Prince at Kista University.
My mom told me and everythingelse in, a snowstorm to go see

(56:04):
Prince back when he had to.
I want to be a lover when hehad that out.
Yeah, way before I was evenborn.
Yeah, crazy, right, that's whatI got.
Love for your mom, though withthe purple.
Yeah, man, yeah.
I want you.
Golden, yeah, I want you.

(56:25):
Dog, I want you.
Hey man, southside podcast,love all you guys.
Man, free, all y'all listening,happen to go mine, let's go
baby.
Spotify, all DSPs, digitalstreaming platforms, go telling
you Brothers, committee control,rise, gang Feed, make community
, let's go, let's get it, let'sget it.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yo man, it's love man .
Yo man, I got to ask you aboutyour music, man, because you've
been putting out music for alittle while now and and it's a
few albums I'm going to speak toon Bandcamp, right, because I'm
a big, you know what I mean.
Like besides websites, to buymusic from people like Bandcamp

(57:12):
is the next best thing.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Sure, sure yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
So I've got to ask you about three albums freedom
music, I wonky wonderland,season one and stay tuned,
volume one.
I got to ask you about becausehey, man, because, as I'm like,

(57:37):
I'm like, oh my gosh, man, these, just what you're doing with
these sonically is like yo, yo,how come?
Yo, it should be like thousandsof people buying this right now
.
Like, how is they?
How are they not buying thisright now?
They may be listening tosomewhere else or something, but
I'm like yo, they need tosupport these albums.

(57:59):
Yo, because these ones is going, you know, maybe it's going to
make you like yo, I ain't justdigging this.
All right, let's go make moreon a grander scale.
You know what I'm saying.
But those three albums rightthere freedom music, a wonky
wonderland, season one, staytuned, volume one.
Like, what was, what was themeaning behind freedom music?

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Freedom is, yeah, freedom with freedom, right?
Ok, the meaning behind that wasduring that era of glad you
picked them too, yeah man.
Yeah man, because I had, yeah,some stories behind all those,
all those three projects manWith freedom, music that was

(58:46):
during that time when we wereall in lockdown, and stuff like
that.
Man, and especially here inAtlanta I was working with a lot
of the homies and a lot of thecommunity here from the control
rise game and I wanted to putout something because we were
contributing to the AtlantaSolidary Fund and so I figured I

(59:10):
figured to put that project outto help out, and we actually
did a live stream.
We actually did a live stream.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I think I remember.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah, so it was like that was all for that.
So like all the proceeds wentto Atlanta Solidary Fund for
like all all the homies that wasat the CNN Center when, when
they messed around and gotpepper sprayed and everything
else, in the end the patent goesto jail and stuff like that.
We did.

(59:41):
We did that specifically and Iput that project out to help
acquire funds and stuff likethat to get a lot of those guys
that ended up unfortunatelygetting locked up on the stuff,
to help gather funds to get themout of there, for them
expressing their rights.
So that was the meaning behindfreedom music.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Because that's is that Stokely Carmichael on the
front.
I think that is right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yes, ok, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
And then, what was the other project?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
you said which other and then the other project was a
wonky wonderland season, thewonky wonderland.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Ok, so the story behind that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Let's hear this one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
The story behind that one.
Oh, that's going to blowy'all's mind.
So all my equipment messedaround and poked out and all I
had was my SP 404 and my cellphone and I just I just acquired
like at that time at justacquired the, the, the court,

(01:00:53):
the court situation that theyhad, that they was given out for
free with all the court pluginsand stuff on the apps.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, I, I acquired all those plugins and I just had
that and my SP 404.
And I was getting stuff off ofthe radio station here in
Atlanta and so I started takingstuff and I started doing beats
off the.
I downloaded the court chaos,later plug in for that free

(01:01:24):
joint and I started doing stuffon that and just kind of made a
thing of it.
And then I was like yo, I needto put out something, but like
my computer, stuff is shot, Idon't have anything to record to
this.
And then the third All I got ismy SP 404 because my, my
computer took a, it took a dive,and I'm like dude, I got my

(01:01:49):
cell phone and my SP 404.
And that the phone that I hadat the time was Android.
I'm like, well, I can sit thereand do a radio station thing and
I can take stuff and whateverelse, and so I just record stuff
into the 404.
You know it's every sample andblah, blah, and then save it as

(01:02:10):
a thing and then that's howwonky wonderland volume one came
about.
It's just like start taking thestuff and do, do, do, do, do,
do, do and just ping pong andstuff, and came up with that
project and and put it out,because I'm like I need to put
something out.
You know what I'm saying.
And yeah, it felt, it just feltgood, wow, yeah man Cornbread,

(01:02:32):
erlenum, erlenum.
Oh, that's my fun.
Hey, that was fun.
That was a fun.
Yeah, man yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
They don't even know.
I'm a play for you all.
You don't don't worry Internet,so I'm going to play that for
you all, so you all can go backand be like yo I got, I need
this album.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Oh yeah, it was fun, man, that was fun and that is
shockingly enough, man,shockingly enough.
Golden, that was mostly the thechaos later freaking app on on
the core joint.
Wow, like I made that wholebeat on the chaos later.
I didn't do nothing on thatbefore For at all.

(01:03:22):
That was all chaos later jumpoff.
I just did the edits.
I did the edits on the fourfour and then dropped it down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
That's in ingenuity, bro.
Wow, oh my gosh Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yo, it was crazy man.
It was a fun time.
It was tough, but I had funwith it.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
And then you know, I don't know what happened in
between those, those three, Iwant to say three years.
I'm pretty sure everything washappening.
But then you came out with StayTune Volume One, which is, you
know, four tracks came out lastyear.
I'm man, I'm slapping myself.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn'tcatch this for the end of the

(01:04:14):
year episode, for the beat tapesof the year.
But, yo man, what went intoStay Tune Volume One with with
the cover, got one cowboy bootin the street he was.
I was like what is happening?
You?

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
know, kicking it, man , just kicking it, just kicking
it, that's it.
But you know what, though, thatproject was?
So it was so on the.
That project took me a year anda half.

(01:04:51):
Wow, it took me a year and ahalf almost two years, to finish
because of so much stuff I wasdealing with during that time
and it's like I want this to beright.
Then I sat there and talked it'sfunny.
I talked to Ed, talk to DJ RayHanded, and I'm like a red man

(01:05:17):
and I talked to Lee and Lizzietoo.
I was like, man, I have to putthis out.
Man, I was like I don't knowwhere to go with it.
This needs to get done.
It is like it needs to befinished.
Red is like, yeah, man, youcould play in the round.
Man, I talked to my cousin.
My cousin a show started mediaand he's like, yeah, man, you

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need to go ahead, because I wasdoing, I was doing a little
stuff and I ended up going toFlorida and it was kind of like
playing a little segments of theproject at that time, but and I
was trying to gauge what thewhat the public was feeling it
was kind of different to adegree, but I'm like you know

(01:06:00):
what man I want, this man we'regoing to take it, we're going to
go back over school.
I'm just going to play a littlestuff and just hanging out and
everything else, hanging out atwhat we're handed and just we
were skateboarding and I've seensomething.

(01:06:22):
I was like man, you know I'msaying, got it and then build
from that idea and then I'm like, stay too involved.
You weren't.
And then I started thinkingabout certain stuff.
You know what I'm saying.
I started thinking about Dave,new York South, the rest in
power, dave, new York man family.

(01:06:45):
I started thinking about thehomies and stuff.
Man, you know what I'm saying.
And it was just kind of like athing or it's just kind of like
I wanna do something that's likerepresents all of us as a
community, all of us.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, whatever it is that we do, we just stay.

(01:07:07):
You know what I'm saying.
We keep people staying tuned towhat we're doing, obviously
with the rocket ship and thestars and everything else.
You know that's the monitor,but and it always will be,
because we shoot for the stars.
Man, you know what I'm sayingand that's what we know and
that's all I've ever wanted.
And so, with the stay tunedvalue one, and that's gonna be

(01:07:28):
an ongoing segment for all of us.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't do it just for myself,man.
I don't.
I really don't do it.
I do it for my family, I do itfor the mugs that I'm tight with
, I do it for all of us.
It sure, as I sit there andlive by airport you know what

(01:07:49):
I'm saying I see planes flyingin and out all the time.
We go flight.
At any means necessary, let'sget it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Man, I you know what.
I'm tempted to play this firsttrack, man, just so they can
hear it.
Man, you know what?
Oh, man hit him with it oh yeah, Let me hit him with this man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Go ahead man Go ahead , man Go ahead, man Go ahead man
, ah, lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Wow.
So started media for the vision.
They'll footage at Lake Yola,orlando, florida.
Wow you, how you feel me though.

(01:08:55):
Very good, I'm going to go tothe back.
Yeah, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
No, y'all got, y'all got, y'all got to, y'all got to
go, y'all got to go to the, tothe back man listen to that
joint man what that's no.
Bruh, blessings, blessings,blessings.

(01:09:39):
So much appreciative Bruh.
Okay, yo man, that's.
That's the the three albums.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I really wanted to touch on that.
It's so much more man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
It's so much I could I want to ask you about man, but
time constraints, but yeah,last, let me ask you these last
two questions.
So so 20, it's 2024, you know,new years happening.
What's I mean?

(01:10:12):
And and and the technology NAMMjust happened, everything like
that.
I don't know if you went or not, but oh no, I paid.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
I paid some of the stuff, though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yeah, so what is what is your like?
I don't want, I don't want toknow all do your whole process,
but what is the process forK-lover, aka the go man?
What is your process when yousit down and you're getting
ready to make a track Like, whatis that?

(01:10:40):
What does that look or feellike to you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Just a feel man.
It's just a feeling Like Ican't.
I can't explain, it's just afeeling, man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
It's just a feeling, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Yeah, just a feeling, man, man, but you just gotta
feel it, and if you don't feelit you can't do it.
I'll put in the words of my manand everything.
Again, I'm referenced in themovie Risky Business man.
Sometimes you just gotta saywhat the F?
What?

(01:11:17):
The F.
What the F brings youopportunity, opportunity you
know what I'm saying Makes yourfuture.
Sometimes, man, sometimes Imean, if you can't say, you
can't do it.
You know what I'm saying.
But what the F brings youFreedom, freedom brings you

(01:11:39):
opportunity, makes your future.
What the F, what the F, whatthe F man, yeah what the F bro.
Yeah, you gotta do it, yougotta do it.
You can't do it.
You can't mess around and begreat if you don't try to be

(01:12:00):
great.
True.
That's fast.
Yes, that's fast.
Yes, it is man, you gotta trysomething, man what?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
is Okay, let's talk about.
You're getting a part ofControlerize, for I don't know
how long you played so manydifferent beat sets all over the
world, man you played for Beat.
Cinema.
You did a beat cinema set, youdid Controlerize.
What is that experience likeJust performing.

(01:12:31):
What is that experience likejust performing your sets in
front of those crowds.
Man, they are big crowds andthey all catch a vibe,
especially the one you did lastyear for Controlerize, when they
just opened back up.
They was going bananas bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Man, he's just.
He's just do what you do, man,Be honest with you, and you just
turn off the outside world andbe comfortable within yourself
and just pretty much for themost part, man, enjoy what
you're doing, Enjoy what you do.

(01:13:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, I know it's a big crowd,I know it's big crowd stuff and
everything else, man.
But it gets to a point to whereit's a big crowd thing and a
lot of people will be like ohman, yo, it's so crazy and stuff

(01:13:37):
like that.
But then you get to a point towhere it's kind of like you
start getting numb to it to adegree and you just appreciate
the crowd, you appreciate thecrowd and everything.
But then it gets to a point towhere it's like the crowd don't

(01:13:59):
even matter anymore.
Now you're just locked in.
You know what I'm saying?
You're locked in.
Sorry, I'm just writing it outhere to.
Just writing it here in A alittle bit.
But it just gets to a point towhere you really don't consider

(01:14:23):
the crowd or stuff andeverything else.
Man.
You kind of just get to thepoint to where it's like you do
your thing and then you justpretty much lock in to what
makes you feel comfortable.
And as long as you feelcomfortable, the crowd is going

(01:14:45):
to feel comfortable.
If you start feeling weird andstuff like that, the crowd is
going to feel weird.
If you're not confident inyourself, the crowd is not going
to be confident in you.
And then we're like alright,yeah, man, I'm about to start
looking at the vendors andwhoever else is here.

(01:15:05):
I'm not going to pay to the skyand everything else.
This model is just playingstuff.
He ain't feeling this stuff andeverything else.
And blah, blah.
You got the whole thing beingmad because you're thinking
about hating on you, but reallyyou're just on some trash.
And then this is like nah, youreally just didn't put your best
foot forward.
Yeah, it's like you can't bedoing that.

(01:15:28):
You know what I'm saying.
It's like, if you're going togo out there and do stuff and
everything else, put your bestfoot forward, be the best you
you can be for yourself.
You know what I'm saying.
Consider the crowd and just beawesome.
You know what I'm saying.
Like the control, rest crowdman In the earlier years it was

(01:15:52):
tough.
I'm not going to front.
It was tough.
Souths of Black cubes, southsof Mealike, the beat ninja,
souths of Maurice Daniel, southof the very sick beats.
I got to throw the shout outsout there because this is the
initial squad Souths of who Me,souths of Tapes, souths of Feng

(01:16:13):
Shui.
Now, I sense you know what I'msaying, dj, we're handed Lee and
Lizzie.
Um, uh, man, uh, ippress Robwas saddening.
Um, you know what I'm saying,man?
It's totally Judd, the homieJudd.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's a lot of us thatmess around and like kind of

(01:16:35):
help, start to maneuver andeverything.
Oh, mike Stallone, mikeStallone, you know what I'm
saying.
Um, yeah, man, like it was asituation and stuff like that,
to where you kind of really gotit.
Hey, you had to get outside ofyourself.
You had to really get outsideof yourself.
Salasdibi again, um, salasdibi14kt.

(01:16:57):
You know what I'm saying?
Cav wins.
What's happening?
Um, yeah, no, man, it's likeit's you know what I mean.
It's just a situation.
Oh, day tripper, my fault, daytripper, yeah, yeah, yeah, all

(01:17:18):
day, every day.
Um, no, man, you just had to bein the maneuver and everything
else, because it was like it wasthe way how it started.
It was just pretty much guyscoming together there and, um,
we just saw our culminated witheach other and it's like we need
to come up with something forthe culture, and that's pretty

(01:17:43):
much how, on my end of things, Iviewed it and how I saw it,
because I ended up inheriting it, um, but once I inherited it,
we had like confabs and stufflike that on Sundays, man, those
Sundays were epic, thoseSundays were epic, those Sundays

(01:18:06):
were awesome and, excuse me, um, a whole community got built
out of that man and we wentthrough the.
We went through the roughest oftough times on everything, man,
in terms of venue, venuepicking.
You know what I'm saying Like,but all the venues that Mung's

(01:18:29):
restaurant and showed up andshowed up and be and was a part
of near things, fire, fire Everytime.
Like you're, man, db, this catshut down deep in downtown
Atlanta.
Too loud, loud music.

(01:18:50):
You know that's a hidden story.
Yeah, like the bass was tooloud.
I'm in a mart, I'm in a.
I was there.
That was a dope show, that wasdope, that was awesome.
It was an awesome show.

(01:19:11):
That was the, but it was likey'all got to turn the music off.
That's loud.
But yeah, man, like nah, it'sjust like it was like the
control rise gang.
I wouldn't replace them foranything by the world.
I love y'all, man, like stonedrums and purse ride.

(01:19:31):
I love all you guys, y'all hearthis Yep Squag gang.
That's all we do.
Controller eyes is the mob, butyeah, my fault man, that's
that's.
That's all I got to say aboutthat part.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I got you, yo man, shout out to controller eyes,
man, because I just appreciatewhat y'all been doing, and I
tried to catch y'all in Japan in2000 and I think it was 2020,
right before 2019.
2019.
Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
I remember that.
I remember that I was trying tocome out there then too.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Yeah, man, but.
But anyway, man, I have one day, I'm going to come back, don't
worry.
Okay, I'm going to try andcatch y'all, I mean hopefully
y'all.
I don't know if y'all going tocome out to San Antonio or not,
but you know we oh, you know,I'm a Texas boy now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yeah, I'm saying so.
I grew up in Dallas.
I'm a native of Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Yeah, so, uh, you know we ready, I think, Houston,
Austin, Dallas, San Ann, man, Ithink yo we definitely would
support that for real.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yo, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, we need to link up, man,
cause I'm telling you, man, like, oh yo, front ruler, before the
acres homies shout out to them.
You know what I'm saying.
Uh, for Obama.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
He was in 2023, man Crazy.
Oh, let's get it.
Let's get it, man.
We all make up, man, let's doit.
I'm glad that I'm down to comeback to the crib, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Oh man, I got okay right right before we.
You know, we wrap it up, man.
Uh, two last two questions.
I said that probably about 30minutes ago no no problem, man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Hey, hey, pick my brain, man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
You know what I'm saying?
Um, what is, what's onetechnique that you would tell a
beat maker to kind of harness on, harness in on, to make their
beats kind of you know, eitherpop or stand out, or you know
what I mean Something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Learn music theory.
Music theory Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
And J Phil got the beats, got the books.
So you know what I'm saying.
That's the broski.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
That's broski, Set off to northeast Ohio, maybe two
, one, six and three, three ohyeah, let's get it.
Let's get it.
That's the family.
I just talked to him the otherday.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
K lover man, do you have any music or any events
coming up that you want to?
You know spotlight and let thepeople know so they can tap in
and check out anything plannedfor 2024?
.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
I wish I could tell.
But I'm working on something.
I'm working on something rightnow and uh, uh, but it's a.
All I'm gonna say is the restof the power of Dilla.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
That's all I'm gonna say that's your aim is to win.
Yeah, it's me, man.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Shout out to my bro.
Shout out to my bro, john.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah, how can people find you?
How can the internet tap intoyou?
Know everything, k love aka thego.
Where can they find you?
How can they support you?
How can they tap into whatyou're doing?

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
K love aka K love aka the go K L U V aka T H E G O.
Most platforms on X, k love 3,3 O, you know what I'm saying.
And then on bank camp K love 3,3 O dot bank M dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
There it is, man Yo K love man.
It was an honor to talk to you,man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Man, this was a great one.
This was a good conversation weneed to do a part too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
I want it.
Yo, we got to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
I want it, bro.
I want it, I want it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Yo.
So I will put this out there,man, whenever you are at liberty
to talk about it.
Hey, yo, I'm yo.
Hit me up personally.
I will make room in the podcastfor you, man, straight up hey
man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Hey, that's love man.
I appreciate it.
Man Like hey, y'all go mine Ify'all ain't tapped into gold
mine.
Matter of fact, gold mines iscrazy dope.
And yo shout outs to the dopestpodcast on the planet earth for
beat makers let's get it, runit up, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Man love man Yo.
I appreciate you, man Yo.
It was an honor man to chop itup with you, man Yo.
When, when this comes out andpeople start hitting you up yo,
I don't drink.
You know what I'm saying.
Like they're gonna be, like yo,like there's so many.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
I'm here with the red jams, with the squeerons.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
There's so many, so many jewels you dropped in this
joint man Like yo.
They y'all gonna have to runthis back internet.
So yo just be prepared to runit back while y'all driving,
y'all flying on a boat, plane,train, whatever it is,
skateboard, whatever, anythingTap it, yo tap it and run it
back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Subscribe like comment, let's go Share it out.
Quit being a hater.
Tap into gold mine man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Let's go Any.
Any last or final thoughts forthe internet man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Be fricking great man , that's all I'm gonna say.
Be great.
Love all y'all too, love them.