Matt.E.J (Founder, Organic Beat Sessions)

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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This week we came out withepisode number eight for the
Beat Makers Corner man.
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aspect of the beat makingjourney.
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Alright, but anyway, let's getin today, let's get.
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Now.
Let's get into this week, man,this week last week we was in
New York.
We're going to take a train ora plane or a bus and we're going
all the way on the other sideof the United States Los Angeles
, california.
Man, somebody's been doing someamazing work, man, I've seen
his beat videos on Instagram.

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I've also seen him in recordstores and then the main way I
saw him was during the pandemic.
Man, they were doing like livebeat sets via.
However, they were doing it,but the locations where they
were doing it for the organicbeat sessions was some of the

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craziest locations I've everseen.
Man, I've never seen anythinglike that.
So during that time, that's whenI got in touch with and became
a fan of my next guest man, ortoday's guest.
He is and let me get my shownose to make sure I'm saying
anything right so he is thefounder of organic beat sessions

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Man, his soundcloud is heavy.
He's always been a part of theFripper Beat Club in LA, I think
, and you can see him justcarrying it on beat performances
.
Man, inside of a record store,which one day I'm going to go
there, man, I'm only in Texas,so I'm going to stay today and
make it there one day.

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But he's also got put out a newalbum called the Warm Up this
year in 2024.
He's also got a Kitty Funksingle with some heavy hitters,
man to Key, and he knows man.
Man, they've been previousguests on the show.
So, yo, man, without furtherado, I want you to welcome the

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one and only Maddie J to theshow.
Maddie J, what's up, man?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
What's up, man?
That's a hell of an intro,thank you.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yo man, listen, man, and that's just a little small
part of what I mean, like Idon't want to give up everything
.
So that's why we're going tohave this little conversation,
geek out a little bit, man, youknow, I know, you know it's
synthesizers, samplers, you knowlaptops, like however you make

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your beats.
We're going to talk about allof that, man.
But welcome to the rex show man.
Finally, I get to have you onin season four, man.
You've been doing some amazingthings, so I got to give you
your flowers, especially withorganic beat sessions.
Man, that is some amazing workand we're getting to talking
about that.
But Maddie J, maddie J, whereis that your?

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Is that your name, or is that aname that you came up with?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's so funny, man, that's actually a nickname it
just kind of stuck with me sincemiddle school.
You know, j is the first initialof my last name and my friends
always used to call me Maddie J.
I used to spell it with a Y,but funny enough, I googled it.
I was like, alright, what if Istart putting out music?
And all that came up was likeone of the dudes from the

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bachelor was nicknamed Maddie Jand that's all that came up was
just like pop culture columns.
I was like, oh, I got to changeit, so I just.
I was like, oh, that fits, youknow.
So that's that's how thatspelling came to be Wow, wow,
nice and simple man, yeah, yeahnice and simple man.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, listen, you know Maddie J man.
How long have you been creatingmusic and when did you like?
What did you start out makingmusic with?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Alright, so we got to take it back to like 2012.
I used to like to freestyle andrap with a group of friends,
and one of them introduced me toFruity Loops FL 12 actually,
that's what I started on, andaround that same time we came
into contact with Dutchie, dutchMassive.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You know, huge shout out to Dutch man yeah, yeah,
that's like big, big bro rightthere.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, no, we found out he used FL and he was
showing us all these tips andtricks and then that got the
ball rolling from there.
And then he introduced me toAbleton.
But it really didn't clickuntil my roommate he showed me
how he used it because he wasDJing on Ableton and it just all
clicked on how you use theclips, on how you arrange it.

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And I want to say around like2017 is when I was like, alright
, fully locked in with Abletonfrom that point on.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Wow, wow, you know they like.
They say there's no differencebetween DAW's, it's just you
know they all do the same thing.
It's just how you interpretthat they do.
They do what you needed to do,but Ableton is a powerhouse.
Like what was that transitionlike?
Going from Fruity Loops toAbleton?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And the main thing was just less screens and menus.
Like in Fruity Loops there's amenu for everything, whereas
Ableton is a little bit morelike you open up a track, it's
right there.
You can put all your audioeffects down below to MIDI track
.
You can just it's.
I just like the layout a lotmore and as I got deeper into it

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I was like oh, this is, this isa little bit more customizable
and you find out little ways totweak stuff.
You know how you have your yourclips.
You can change the start pointof a loop or however you want to
time it out with the warpingthat's.
I gotta say Ableton's warpingis yeah, that's what really kind
of sold me on it is being ableto manipulate audio like that.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Wow, wow man.
So you know, one day I mighthave to hit you up on some
Ableton, because I'm thinkingyou're like I've been using
machine and it's cool, it doeswhat I need to do.
I've been using it for the lastseven years but I feel like
it's reached its limit and Ifeel like Ableton might bring me
to a different level.
So you know, I might hit you upon the IGD.

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I'm like yo, I need help.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yo, anytime, man, anytime I got you.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, man saying Pedro, south Bay, california,
man, what was it like growing upthere?
Like and you know you listeninto the different vibes and the
music that people were playing,like what's it?
What was that music scene likein that area?

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh man.
So I mean I went through a lotof different phases.
When I was really young I waspretty heavy into like punk rock
and then that kind of felladjacent with like scone reggae,
which was that's a pretty bigscene out here.
But from there my neighbor Igrew up with, like his dad, was

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the one that showed me guru anddiggable planets.
And around that same time Ifound some other friends that
were getting into, like you know, golden era classic hip hop and
it was all about, you know,tribe call quest, far side, you
know all the greats.
And yeah, that was around thesame time where I was like
getting interested in andrapping and whatnot as well.

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So don't don't really do thattoo much nowadays, but that also
led into the beat making, youknow.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Okay, yeah, so you can.
You can make your own beats andrap over your own beats.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how a lot of people
start off, you know, especiallywith the beat making.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, man, you know a lot of my guests like.
They were like yo, man, I usedto you know rap, but I didn't
have beats.
So I just started like wantingto make beats and then everybody
in, like all my homies, werelike yo, let me get a beat.
You know this thing.
I saw a lot of my guestsstarted out and be making music,
producing and composing anyway,man.
So man, yeah man, I thinkeverybody wanted to be an MC man

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.
Hip hop is crazy, absolutely,man.
What was your, what was your,your your rap name, man?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Oh, it was still just Maddie J.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Still Maddie J.
Yeah, yeah, man.
Do you remember the?
Do you remember the first?
What was your like best rhymeor best 16, that day that you
wrote?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Oh man, I gotta recite that right now.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
No, I'm just asking man.
I'm just asking man, like cuz,you know a lot of our, a lot of
my guests they take pride in inthe words that they're saying.
You know I'm saying especiallyover their own production.
But when somebody else istrying to use their music to rap
over a lot of them say like yo,it's not the move.

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Man, like a lot of a lot ofpeople are just saying BS.
You know I'm saying so, butthat's why I asked that question
.
I just wanted to see if youwere like you know you're nice
with it.
Yeah, you gotta be nice with it.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Right, right, right, absolutely.
I want to say like when it cameto rapping, my number one thing
was always and and the homieDutch would always say this to
me too of, like you know, justjust projecting and having
confidence and and what I wassaying, and you know, really
using your voice to get thosepoints across.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I mean that's yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's
pretty much it.
But once I found beats, it wasjust kind of like alright, like
you know, I I still, I stilldabble.
I actually wrote something likelast week, so it's not like I
fully ever let go of it, youknow but beats definitely
started to take the, the mainstage, the priority, and I was

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like alright, I'm gonna go allinto this, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Alright, man, man, so let me, let me take, let me
take the listeners my into theInternet.
So on a journey, man, we'regonna go back in your history
and when you were growing up,what were like who?
Who are you around?
I don't know if it's maybebrothers and sisters, mom, dad,

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you know, grandparents, uncles,your friends, who are you around
and what were they playing?
I know punk rock was one one ofthem, but for their different
genres of music, that that yougravitated to, that stuck with
you to this day.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You know, my dad was always kind of a kind of a jazz
head and he you know what one ofmy earliest music memories is
him showing me like.
So what?
by a Miles Davis and yeah, he'slike oh, you know, the trumpets
kind of sound like you're sayingso what?
I was like, oh, shit, ok.
And then my uncle on my mom'sside of the family, he's, he's,

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he's really deep into jazz andeven to this day will trade
stuff.
He'll give me a bunch of namesI've never heard of and, yeah,
I'll look him up, sample him,just listen to him.
So jazz has always been there alittle bit.
You know, I remember cominghome from from church every
Sunday, my dad always have a88.1 K jazz always playing.
So yeah, definitely some fondmemories there.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Wow, like what was so ?
Your dad was the one that waslike putting you on to all these
different types of music.
It was your data musician aswell.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You know, he always kind of dabbled, like we had
bongos in the house for a whileand he would have this group of
friends that would jam every sooften I only remember them
coming over a few times when Iwas a kid, but my mom also got a
piano when she was really youngand me and my brother were

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playing that for a little bit.
And then when I got into aboutfourth grade, I went to the band
and I was playing clarinet fora little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Wow, another band guy .
Okay, yeah, yeah, clarinet.
What was that instrument like?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like, did you try other instruments and they just
didn't fit, or yeah, actually,yeah, I was playing clarinet for
a little while and then, man, Iwould always turn around in
band class and the percussionguys were always just messing
around and looked like they werehaving a lot of fun.
I was like, man, I wanna dothat.
So I wanna say middle school Ikind of hopped over, got a drum

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set, started playing drums, hada little punk rock band with my
friends, but I never sold or gotrid of my drum set and as time
went on and I got more into hiphop, I was like, okay, let me
turn on fucking like ilmatic orsomething like that and just try
to jam along or whatever.

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I was trying to listen to atthe time and just trying to
figure out these drum fills andwhat they were exactly doing.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Classics man.
The classics man.
What were like five albums thatand it don't have to be any
specific genre, but what werelike maybe three albums, three
albums that stick out to you tothis day.
You listen to them.

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You get that ghost bumpyfeeling, like you did when you
first heard it back in the day.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh man, that's the DeAngelo Voodoo you know all,
still to this day.
Throw on Linkin Parkreanimation.
It's a classic, that's classic.
Yeah, and then shit, I gottasay Lab Cab in California by the

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far side, take a little hip hop.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Jeez man.
Do you have like a favoritetrack off that album?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bullshit.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, man.
I'm trying to find that rightnow, man, because a lot of
people get stuck on the farsides, like you know, running
track, but they don't like.
Come on, man, like they got somany other dope joints on all of

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their albums, man, dude thatwhole album.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, I mean I like Bizarre Ride as well.
You know, which is great, thatthat Lab Cab album, I don't know
man Like it was also like I hada lot of Limelire Kazaa shit.
You know where you get a singletrack, but that was one of the
first albums where I had likefront to back.
You know, yeah, listen to thatthing all day, man.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Man, let me hold on, let me see if I can pull this up
, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
And this is produced by JD man.
So, hey, I know, I mean J Dilla.
Month was like last month,february.
This is March 1st by the timewe listened to this, but, man,
can you hear that?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Woo man man.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I think Questlove in an interview has
like a funny story about that,about how you discovered J Dilla
was hearing this live.
He was like standing outside ofa club or something and then
he's like what is that kickpattern doing?
And like have a run inside andhear what was going on, you know
.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Man, yo man, yo man, jd man.
Shout out to yo, shout out toJD man, you still living man.
You know he's.
You know we go back in the inthe archives, man, check out the
J Dilla episode.
I did, you know, just showinghomage and paying homage to

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James Duit Yancey man.
That was man that took mealmost two months to make.
That you know, just gatheringall the details and remembering
where I was when I heard J Dillaproduction.
Do you remember where you werewhen you heard, you know, one of
JD's joints?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
besides, besides the far sized bullshit, so I wasn't
even realizing who it was.
And he, he, he, he, he's allover all these.
I'll even try and it turns outthat, like I was listening to JD
beats for a while but I didn'tput two and two together and so

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I started to really like lookinto the liner notes on albums
and stuff like that, I'm like,oh, who is this guy?
And he kept popping up.
And then once I Googled it, youknow you find the shining and
his his bigger stuff.
But man, once I found welcometo Detroit.
Phew, man, that shit is yeah,that that should go into the
that, that top three question aswell.
Man, welcome to Detroit.

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It's damn.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, man, yo yo man, oh, like yo, you can still
listen to it and it's still,even though it came out maybe 20
years ago, you know, maybemaybe 30 years ago, it still
resonates with people.
Man.
That is, you know, like whenI'm, when I'm making music.

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I hope one day it resonateslike that, like 20, 10, 20 years
from now.
It can still have that, thatfeeling of just man just being
an amazing joint to listen toman, is that, is that one of
your goals when you make yourproduction?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Oh, man Kind of you know like it's always great if
the outcome is like oh, this,this is just timeless, you know.
But I kind of just, I kind ofjust make what I'm feeling in
the moment.
You know I go back and forthfrom from sampling to loading up
the STs, but it is always kindof great when you can't tell

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it's just a great track.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, Like who cares how youmade it, it just sounds good,
you know, yeah man, yeah, that'sthe best, that's the best type
of production.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Man, when it just sounds good, it feels good.
Yeah, man, I completelyunderstand.
Man.
Man, okay, I gotta ask youabout, after you figured out,
you know, you were MCN and thenyou were like yo, I need to make
music.
You started making music, youstarted with FL, transitioned

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over to Ableton, what's I wantto say, like what's subgenre
were you like gravitatingtowards?
Was it?
I mean, was it in hip hop, orwas it in rock, or you know what
was it?

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What was the subgenre that youwere kind of like honing in on?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
as you were making production.
Around that time, especiallywith the rapping aspect, I was
watching a lot of KOTD grindtime Like.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I really You're gonna win the first part.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh yeah, man, absolutely Like.
I love the hard bars of justpeople going at it and just yeah
, yeah.
That should always just seem soclever to me how they could
just like trash and make fun ofeach other man, and I don't know
what it was about it, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Man, who's your top five in Battle Rat man?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Oh man, I really, really liked Dumbfounded.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh yeah, he's dope, he's dope.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Cause some of those dudes just try to sound a little
bit too hard and it comes offas corny to me, but I liked how
he would just like he was smoothwith his flow and you know,
yeah, yeah, man, he was great.
Oh man, it's been a while sinceI've looked into a lot of this
stuff, but man, yeah, there werea couple of dudes out of Canada

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.
I can't remember their namesright now, but yeah, I think,
that's.
That's where King of the Dogwas, though they were based out
of Canada.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Canada.
Yeah, pat Steele, your WesternPia, Pat Steele.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, that's who I'm trying to think of.
Yeah, Pat Steele was great.
Yeah, yeah man.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, Canada got a lot of, got a lot of killers.
Man on the Battle Rat scene,man, it's not just, you know,
United States, or even in the UK.
The UK got some heavy hitterstoo.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm like I've been watching.
Yeah, I feel so strange I watch.
I watch a lot of like URL KOTDGrind Time.
I've been watching.
There's another one man, we'reman.
I can't remember the battleleague, but man there's so many

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battles man.
It's like, wow, you know, likeso many people that are clever
with words and especially doingthat in front of other people,
man, like it could be hundreds,maybe thousands of people.
Like I want to ask you, like,when you're performing your
music in front of, in front ofcrowds, like do you even notice

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the crowd or are you just lockedinto your production and
getting it and expressingyourself that way?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Man, it's kind of funny and I've had this
conversation with people towhere, like, I'm more
comfortable if it's a packedroom and people are just vibing
out.
But when it's just like 10people who are like also
producers, just like standingthere waiting for you to play
beats, that's when I'm like.
I'm just like kind of lookingdown at my SP the whole time,

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you know, but like, if it's likea packed room and everyone's
just vibing out, I'm a lot morecomfortable with that, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah man, yeah man.
I you know I've only done maybefour shows, but I don't know.
I think I kind of like zone outa little bit and then I'll pull
out a little bit just to saysomething to the people, you
know, just to make sureeverybody's still rocking.
But you know, I've only gottendone four shows, but you have

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done almost yo.
You've done a lot of shows allover man.
Like yo you've been like Ithink you've done performances
for Today's Future Sound.
I think you've done OrganicBeat Sessions, I think you, I
think you might have been on,were you on Beat Cinema as well.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, oh yeah, wave Room, shout out, wave Room, man.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, shout out to Wave Room.
Man, beat Cinema.
Man, like what?
Where else have you performedat?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Um, I want to say like, like, one of my favorite
times was 2021, going out to mybrother lives in Bushwick and
Elliot invited you know a few ofthe global beats site for
Today's Future Sound guys andgals out out to Brooklyn and I
got to perform at Wondervillewhere they have the Donut Lounge

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and the sampler and then, um,oh man, blink, quantum and shout
out Vicky, cassis, man, shelined that up.
Her brother too, marcus, he'sinsane with the beats, crazy
guitar player.
But yeah, that was.
That was a cool little littleweek trip that I took out there

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and got to do, got to do someshows.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Wow, yo, shout out.
To shout out to Vicky Cassisman.
Um, they, I think they haveQSTV, I think that's what they
broadcast on.
But shout out to the DonutLounge Beat Cinema man.
Yo, yo, these are amazing, um,amazing venues and people

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putting them on.
You know that's.
You know, I'm just looking atit from IG because I always
wanted to come to a beat cinemaone.
So I'm a little closer now fromJapan.
But yo, one day I'm going toget the beat cinema man, because
that room stays rocking man.
Just the lighting, theexperience.
What was that like?
Performing it for beat cinemaand the Donut Lounge?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Oh, so um, I actually haven't performed for Donut
Lounge.
I was just saying I performedat Wonderville.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh, wonderville, yeah , yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's just the same place they
have it.
Um, beat beat cinema is great.
Man, I, I, I love Rockin' forBeat Cinema.
We just did my um, my releaseparty, kind of quote unquote.
Right, I played my whole albumthere.
It was at one of their, theirnewer venues, the Stowaway in
downtown LA.
But even before that man like Iwas just going to beat cinema,

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I was going, you know, 2012,.
You know, low end theory stillhappening.
I would go to low end a lot onthe Wednesdays.
Um, oh, wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, so you were part of that too, wow.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I didn't perform there, but I went to many, many
a low end theory, you know yeah,many shows.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man , if it was still there, man, I
would probably take a planethere and just to just to soak
up that energy, man, like, whatwas that energy like in for low
end theory.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Oh man.
Well, just by the way, theykind of have a reincarnation
where daddy Kev is now doingscenario.
Definitely check that out, yeah, at the love song bar, and he,
he was one of the two guys thatI believe founded, or just you
know, started, low end theory,right, but man, those shows were
insane.
Man, like I would.

(30:54):
I would see, you know, sango,my design cause, all organism,
some like heavy, heavy hittersand they're.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You know, that's 20, 30 minutes down the freeway for
me you know, wow, wow, man,where, like what was the most
memorable performance you saw atat that venue?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Dude.
I, uh, I re dude.
You know who tore it down everytime was free the robots.
I don't really know what dude'sdoing nowadays, but any dude,
that guy would kill it.
He would get the whole crowdmove in and like go from
different genres and styles.
It would be like slapping oneminute and kind of laid back the
next, like yeah, free the robot.

(31:41):
Also, matthew David, crazy,crazy producer.
I know he still does stuff too,to this day as well.
Yeah, those, those two kind ofkind of stick out for me.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And uh, as well as getting to see uh cause all
organism and like, yeah, he's doone of the goats man cause,
cause, all man, I'm like yo,where yo, he ain't dropped the
album in so long.
I'm like yo, where'd he,where'd he go?
But I'm pretty sure you knowpriorities and stuff like that
though.
But man, so okay.

(32:13):
And then you perform yournewest album at um, at beat
cinema man.
That album that you're talkingabout is the warmup album, right
?
So the cover is super dope.
First of all, like who, who,who's the cover?
Artist?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think that's duchy, man, that's duchy duchy man,
yeah, yeah yeah, just some AIartwork.
I was getting real specificwith it, though it's kind of I
want this next to this and blah,blah, blah.
You know, we just kind ofpicked the best images and put
it together.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Man, duchy man Shout out to duchy man.
He just got his new spot, man,so I hope he's um gonna be
feeling bad.
We're going to talk about thatpast the duchy album as well,
man.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, and um, because that was an amazing um thing
that you, you and the homies did.
So, but yo, let's talk aboutthe warmup man, the um.
Well, first of all, let's goback in your sound cloud, man.
Your sound cloud is super heavyman, it's got.
You know, I mean you, you didsome joints for uh loop sessions
Los Angeles, um, hosted by,like, house shoes.

(33:18):
You've been on today's futuresound Dr Filthy.
Dr Filthy, I'm saying, was onthere, man, you've been, you've
been performing with the homies.
I'm not sure if you've everdone uh, I love supreme
California, but, man, one, maybeone day um, let me see.
Well, what else have you?
Um On the on soundcloud man,soundcloud, your soundcloud,

(33:42):
super heavy man.
So I'm a link that in thedescription to show everybody so
y'all can tap into Matty J'ssoundcloud.
But, yo, when we talking aboutthe warm-up man, what you do
with the warm-up actually isit's been camp Friday.
As a record, this man, you'rebetter go back If it's past that
, go back and caught and grabthis joint man like yo, this

(34:06):
joint is amazing, just so youknow.
You recorded this between someexperience between 2019 and 2021
, you know, and the and the andthe he did a pandemic man, the
warm-up man.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthe warm-up?
You know how, what was thegenesis of the warm-up, and you

(34:26):
know how it all came together.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, I mean, I had the idea for the, the title, for
a while.
I didn't know exactly whatjoints were gonna go on there,
but yeah, it's called thewarm-up cuz you know the the
kitty funk was that.
That single I posted up on mybandcamp was kind of just like,
alright, I need to get somemusic out there.
I've been doing this for awhile.
Soundcloud is cool, but yeah,no, I need.

(34:53):
I need to get like something alittle bit more official out
there.
So I'm going through mytimeline of making beats and and
I'm like you know what here's.
This is a good place to startright here.
The start of the pandemic, when, you know, global beat cypher
was popping off, everyone'sgoing on these zoom calls
session in, you know, and thatreally pushed me to like.

(35:14):
That's when I started to belike, oh shit, yeah, like I'm
gonna make beats every day, I'mgonna make two or three beats a
day, you know, and just justKind of combed through a
playlist of about I don't knowlike 30, 40 tracks and just
whittled it down to a Think 15.
I think it's 15 tracks, butyeah, that's that's where all

(35:34):
those joints came from.
Was was from these global beatcypher's and they would give you
a little sample pack every weekor, where one of the people are
a special guest, would puttogether about 15 to 30 minutes
worth of samples.
They might be the full song, itmight be a little snippet, but,
um, there's some gold in there.
Man Like if you're if you'reever just like I, want to make a

(35:56):
beat, you're kind of don't knowwhat to do.
Go to today's future soundsound cloud.
Those, those sample packs arestill there and they have
fucking gold in them.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, yeah, because they got.
They got the samples and if youhaving drums man, you know I
mean these are the main fromjust one pet.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, if it's funny too,
because if people had the time,you could tell they got busy,
because it'd be like, all right,now it's your turn and they
would play like eight, eightjoints.
You know it's like oh man, yeah, you got busy this week, you
know.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Man.
So you, you know, 15 tracks,you know, produced by you know
yourself, of course, master, byyour boy packs.
You know me shout out to yourboy packs and Alba mark by duchy
, you know me.
So, man, you got.
And then you got some you knowsome other people contributing

(36:53):
as well MC Belletta, I hope I'msaying that right and then see a
Vita out of chili pysandu.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
He's yeah.
He's so man, he's wild becausehe's a crazy MC.
I don't speak Spanish, but Iknow that he is popping out
there and A dude makes thegriniest beats.
You know he would.
We'd go back and forth a littlebit.
I'd send him some sample packsand he would send me some drums.
They were always just smacking.
So yeah, those, those are hisdrums on that track.

(37:24):
And then on the last track is aI sent.
I sent that beat over to freshlash.
I believe he's Sacramento orSeattle, not sure, but he did
the scratches on that last joint.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Man.
No, he did his thing.
He did his thing, man.
Mc Beglaida did it, did histhing as well.
Yo, you did your thing.
On here, man, 15 tracks on thisjoint, man.
If y'all haven't tapped intothe warm-up, tap into the
warm-up, man, I think a lot, of,a lot of ears need to be
listening to this joint.
It's inspiring as well, man,just what you did with it from.

(38:01):
Um, what do you call it?
When you put the, the tracklistin order, how you, you know how
you want the feeling to go?
Um, man, I forgot the term.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Arrangement.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Arrangement man, sequence Sequencing man.
Your sequencing was was dopeman, and then you brought in a
heavy hitter man, you know,master, and your boy, your boy
packs like what made you?
What made you bring in this,this, this guy that's doing some
amazing joints Because he's ahe's a love supreme california

(38:39):
member, but he's also been doinghis thing on his own beats as
well and creating freaking,where you call them vs T's man.
He'd be doing it all these.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
He's wild but at the same time man like love supreme
beats.
These are, these are all thehomies man, the the ecosystem
out here in LA is is crazy dude,like there's so many little
collectives and you know burgersand beats man salute to them.
Yeah, these are all the homies.
We run into each other at leastonce or twice a month.

(39:10):
You know like packs, packs asthe boy.
No pun intended, but he's deaddown.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I've been well aware that that he he does his thing
with the.
The master he's came overhelped out.
My roommate had a had a routehis 48 channel mixer to the, to
the compressors and whatnot.
Like he knows what he's doingand at the time I I have a
little bit more confidence in itnow but I Wasn't really sure on

(39:38):
what mastering was.
I was putting stuff on mymaster on individual tracks but
I'd never really kind of Done itfor an album and I kind of
needed some help with that.
So Apparently, I was the firstperson to actually sit with him
in the room and give him likenotes as we went along and be
like, oh man, like bring up thatsnare a little bit on that one,

(40:01):
or you know.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah we get.
We took about like seven hoursand just yeah banged out and
like one afternoon, one evening.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Wow, wow, man.
That's that's really caringabout the, caring about how you
want your, your project to bereceived.
Man, I Yo, you did your thingon this joint man, you did your
thing on this joint man, likethe warm-up Everybody.
I'm gonna put his discographyinside of the description of the

(40:36):
show internet.
So don't worry, man, just goscroll down into the description
.
You can look.
You'll find the socials, you'llfind his, his discography and
some, some other, some othertreats in there as well.
Man, what, what is Maddie Jusing today to create music?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, I'm still in in Ableton.
Yeah, that that's so.
Usually if I, if I'm just like,oh, I feel like making a beat,
then I just open up Ableton.
I have like Some preset BSTs.
I have like a preset drum rackwith a lot of like a Lot of dope

(41:14):
packs in there.
You know, obviously, like thecount, tereek Elliott, omari
jazz, these are like kicks andsnares I'm constantly using.
But I Also I also own a bit ofoutboard gear.
I have the electron modelsamples.
I love using that thing fordrums.
It can just do some things alittle bit quicker and a little

(41:35):
bit more unique to it thanAbleton.
Um, and then same thing withlike keys and other kind of
melodic sounds.
I have a couple of synthesizers.
I got the barringer model D andthe Arturia micro freak.
Um.
So yeah, in terms of in termsof gear, those are kind of like
my three, three pieces of gearthat that produce sounds, and I

(41:59):
also have some guitar pedals andOther things to get, you know,
a little bit more unique,characteristic to the stuff that
I record into Ableton.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Wow, man, synthesizers.
Like what got you into usingsynthesizers?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
You know my I gotta tell you, my, my roommate I
moved in with.
Like he was the dude that thatshowed me how to really use
Ableton, like Dutchy was tryingto teach me.
But he had a very specificprocess and it didn't really
click.
And then and then, when myroommate showed me, oh, this is
how you do clips, and it allclicked and he had like, uh, he
had just gotten a moag and hehad like a Waldorf Synth as well

(42:44):
and I was like, oh man, likethis is uh, I like having my
hands on this stuff.
It's different than using a vst.
So you know, I started small,the um, the barringer, I don't
know.
I think it was under like $300.
So I was like all right.
I'll pull the trigger on this.
And yeah, after I got that Iwas like man, I Kind of just
want to fill my desk with shit.
You know it just started,started buying a bunch of gear.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Man, um, what would be your, your, your best tip to
Some beat makers that you knowmaybe just starting out, um, on
this journey, man, what would beyour best tip that you would
give them?
Um, as far as making music orcreating music?

Speaker 1 (43:30):
For like a like, a very, very beginner like you're
just starting, or?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
yeah, just yeah, just starting out, man okay, um.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
So I was gonna say for intermediate kind of people
if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
You know, if you're using, ifyou're very comfortable with
koala, uh, keep using koala.
If you want to learn Ableton,go for it.
But you know, if you havethings that you do In a certain
software, it just just keepdoing that.
If it sounds good, it soundsgood.
You know, trust your instincts,um, but yeah, I think, for for

(44:01):
beginners, I would reallyactually, you know, maybe load
in some of your your favoritebeats, your favorite songs by
artists and and try to try todrum along, try to finger drum
along with the with the drumprogression, try to try to
figure out some chords.
Um, look up some classicsamples, see how you can flip it
your own way, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
That's cute.
Yeah, man, that's, that's adope one man, because I just
recently started doing that aswell, man, um, you know, just
finding some of my like Jointsthat I feel like are, um, I just
do this dope joints and thenI'm just gonna try to get it
done and drumming to that, andthen, you know, so my finger

(44:42):
drumming is getting a little bitbetter now, but If I'm trying
to do it in front of people,probably not, but um, but yeah,
man, that was a dope, that's adope technique, man.
So, yeah, man, shout out, yo,shout out to you, man for giving
that out to them.
Um, my next question would beas far as creating uh, well, not

(45:04):
creating, but um, either,inspiration, wise, um, is there
anything that you have eitherread, listen to, even watched,
um, that has inspired you to,you know, to keep creating music

(45:26):
and or take chances andexperiment with, with other
types of, you know, eithersamples or um machines or or
anything like that?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Hmm, I gotta say, like just again, like being in
LA and being Surrounded by thepeople who I'm surrounded by,
like I'm I'm very lucky to beblessed with, like you know, um,
like like my homies, like likewho knows, and it's a key and
less lock heart, like you know,we have like a little group chat
going every once in a while,like they'll throw a joint in

(46:02):
there and be like hey, what doyou guys think?
And it's like yo, this is, thisis insane, you know.
And then we'll, we'll talk shopa little bit like how'd you get
this sound or how'd you do thatlittle?
You know just trading littlelittle tips and tricks and and,
uh, yeah, the, the homies, likethey're, they're the ones that
really Keep, keep it moving,keep keep me progressing.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Wow man, oh, I gotta tell you this before I, before I
forget.
So, from the warm up man, I youknow I got a less man.
Um, warming up is, warming upis dope.
Uh, killy jazz, that's a dopename.
Batter, by the way, um, slumped, slumped over.
Um, here we go now, tokyodrifting, uh, cosmic sink, like

(46:46):
yo man man, yo them jerseys,sheesh boy.
Yeah, we definitely gonna haveto.
I might, I might actually justfade out this right here and
then bring that in real quick,because you gotta, they gotta,
hear this joint.
Yeah, um, yeah, I might do that.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
My ideas as I'm talking to you Um, but yeah, let
me, let me go.
Let me talk to you about um, um, something that you just did a
couple months ago, man, and itwas a uh A fundraiser for duchy.
Man who's uh if anybody's beenfollowing duchy or dutch massive

(47:27):
um, you know he's had his ummedical issues, medical issues
that really, you know, themedical system really is not um
helping them with.
But you and the homies didsomething amazing, which was
create a uh a fundraiser forduchy and create a Uh past the

(47:50):
dutch compilation tape.
That is so dope man.
Like so many of the homies,actually Yo are featured on this
joint Um.
Can you tell me about how thiscame together and and what was
the thought process behind pastthe dutch compilation?

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, oh, man.
So you know, uh, every once ina while, you know, I'll just,
I've known dutch for over 10years now.
So, uh, you know We'll, we'llcatch up, and then when we catch
up, we might stay in a lot ofcontact for a week or two.
You know, we'll see what'sgoing on in each other's lives.
And you know, at the time hewas Went, you know about a

(48:33):
couple weeks before we actuallyput this out, it was really fast
, like the whole process was wasquick.
Um, but yeah, we, uh, I foundout.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
His grandmother passed away.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
He had his, his health concerns and so, um, yeah
, we we always had something inmind to kind of like help him
out, but it was really Less lessall-card.
He had the idea to put puttogether the, the compilation,
and I was like, oh bet, likeyeah, let's pull the trigger on
that.
So, um, we just started, youknow, of course, we got the

(49:06):
homies on board first and thenwe started to reach out to some
other people and, uh, you know,just being friends with dutch
for this long, I kind of knew Uhproducers and uh people who
he's Collab with over the yearsand people that he, you know, um
, have came in contact with andstayed friends with.
So, um, yeah, we actually didall this without his knowledge

(49:27):
too.
We were just doing this allbehind the scenes and people
were making stuff for this.
We kind of gave it like a weekand a half, like a two week
timeline.
Some people sent in joints thatthey knew like oh yeah, this is
the one like speaking of Kazal.

(49:49):
Like, I think that joint that hesent in was a joint that he was
playing live at a show.
I believe that like deliciousfinal, and then Dutch started
rapping over it live.
So that happened to be the onethat he sent in.
So there's deeper meaningsbehind some of these tracks that
people sent in that are, youknow, significant to Dutch.
But yeah, man, it just startedto grow and grow and grow.

(50:13):
I think we were shooting forlike 20, 25 people ended up
being almost 40, you know.
But I got to say, man, likethat's that that compilation is
definitely like one of my morelike proudest accomplishments
music wise, just being a part ofthat, helping put it together.
You know, I sequenced the album.

(50:33):
I had to go through all thesetracks and figure which ones are
going to sound good back toback, and it was.
It was a busy couple of weeks,man, but but we made it happen.
Yeah, I am more than happy withthe outcome.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Man, if you, if you don't mind, man, I got to run
down the list of names on thisjoint man, because this is
people from all over, man, alldifferent types of levels when
it comes to our beat community.
Man, if you don't mind, yeah,man, okay, so we talk about.
These are the, these are themutants on this album and

(51:09):
featured on this album, and Iwant to say thank you for doing
this.
Everybody that contributed to,to making this a reality.
Thank you as well, man.
And you know, I saw the messagethat Dutchie put out, man, he
said he was crying man.
So you know, I mean, likethat's what it's all about man,
touching the fellow, our fellowman and woman, man, so, but yo,

(51:31):
it's Antwan Chaknasa to NorthR&D one L, lord Stan, weirdo,
low key.
Dotto lean, lean, ashtrayJenkins, australian man, eski.

(52:01):
Les Lockhart, who actually, Ithink, did the artwork as well.
Boy packs, bryson, thank you,press more solace.
D B Yasi, who knows Olarian,nods your head.

(52:31):
Maddie J, again eloquent to RickElliott Wave groove to key, or
Marry Jazz featuring.
I think that's bully, bully,okay, Cause our organism.
Les Lockhart, again bully.
And then J vinyl man.
These are is 35 tracks, man andmore.

(52:55):
This is definitely one of theones that, um, yeah, I might
have to put at the end of theyear, man, when it comes to my
like beat, beat tapes andinstrumental albums of the year.
I know it came out 23, but itwas the last part of 20.
I'm still putting it in therefor 2024.
I don't even care.
Yeah, but yeah, man, but yo likepeople can still Grab this

(53:21):
album and contribute to thoseefforts, right?
So, um, yeah, yeah, can you?
Can you just talk about it,like how can they support the
initiative that you were, youand the fellow homies were doing
?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, so just go to past, past the Dutch dot org.
I am not sure if the go fund meis still going, but I know that
that definitely raised the themost amount of money, I think.
I think less was running that.
And then this, the compilation,was the first thing that we put

(53:54):
under the organic beat sessions, band camp.
So, um, yeah, by the album.
And then, you know, anytime Istart to get some, some funds, I
just send them over to Dutch.
And this thing got so muchsupport, like I'll just take
this time to say, you know,thank you to everyone that
supported this.
I had to fill out a W ninebecause it's made over $600.

(54:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, wow, well, listen, um, yeah, even though
it's $10, man, you're about toget $610.
I forgot I got to grab thattonight.
So, um, so all the proceeds cango directly to what you're all
doing, man, oh, yeah, man, Ihope that she is feeling way
better Not that his environmenthas changed, and you know,

(54:42):
because he's been documented hisjourney as well, moving from
where he was to his new spot.
So, yeah, man, yeah, man, thankyou for doing that.
And and I think it's visit pastthe Dutchorg, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's where it's at.
So, yeah, I'm going to linkthat in the description of the

(55:03):
show as well.
And if it's still live andkicking internet, go ahead and
contribute to that.
Man, if you buy the album, itgoes directly towards taking
care of one of the homies.
Man, I mean, what better thingto, to, to donate to or
contribute to, than supportingyour fellow man?

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, Absolutely, absolutely, man yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Man, um man, I got a um, so my next thing was talking
about um and you startedsomething.
Maybe two years ago it might beyour own.
It's third year now Organicbeat sessions.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yes, sir, yeah yeah, Three years or something.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Three years running, man.
Um, can you talk it's so dope,man.
And when I see the videos ofy'all performing in this in this
record store.
But can you talk about the, theidea to start To start organic
beat sessions, where that camefrom?
And um, you know what's keptyou going for the last three
years of performances, man?

(56:02):
Because I think you got organicbeat sessions.
I think y'all have over 150,you know, say like beat sets on
yo I'm going to link to YouTube,but yo, man, y'all been rocking
out that rock the record store,man.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, yeah, man, actually I was kind of holding
off because I know we had alittle discussion about the far
side.
But, um, yeah, I was holdingoff, on, on, on mentioning
because I knew we were going totouch on it.
But, um, at, at the time of thepandemic, um one, one of my old
coworkers actually got to bepretty cool with him.
He was more into like, like,techno, house music, but you

(56:42):
know, nonetheless he's anAbleton guy.
We would always chop it up and,uh, use a couple of years
younger than me, but you know,we became friends over time and,
um, his cousin was doing, Ibelieve, some, some art work or
or webpage design for farside TV, which was, uh, run by Booty
Brown from the farside.

(57:02):
And you know, during thepandemic, twitch is taking off,
everybody's moving to onlinestuff and he was looking for DJs
.
And you know, uh, my friend'scousin mentioned him.
Hey, my cousin DJs.
And he's like, okay, bring himin.
And uh, my homie hits me up andhe's just like, I don't know,
I'm not a hip hop guy.

(57:23):
Like I'm, I make house music.
Like I don't you want to comewith me?
I'm like Ab's the fuckingLutely.
So we go into a store two, four,two in Gardena, um, it is a
storefront and you can buy like,uh, they got incense and and
crystals as well as a bunch ofclothing.
They have some, some recordsand some crates, and then the

(57:47):
other half of that is like apodcast studio for farside TV
and, um, yeah, he would, hewould host DJs, they.
They had a little podcast onthere too.
Um, I believe it was a CraigFax.
He's like a comedian, he woulddo stuff on there and, um, yeah,
so we started just to do everyWednesday, we were doing DJ gigs

(58:07):
and we would, we wouldphysically go in there and we
would each do an hour set.
Um and I, we would allsometimes play original music in
there, but I saw beat cinemaactually move to Twitch.
You know, because we can't doanything, everything's shut down
, it's the pandemic.
So, they, they started to hitpeople up and, um, have them

(58:30):
send in pre recorded sets, and Iwas like you know what, through
today's Future Sound and allthis other stuff that's online
like Instagram, I've met a lotof dope, dope producers that I
want to give some shine to and Ithrew it out there and, uh, at
first he was a little hesitant.
He's like that's a, that's alot of moving pieces.
Like I was like you know what,just, you know all, collect all

(58:51):
the sets.
We'll share a draw box, I'llput them in there, put them in
order and just just hit play.
And then, whenever we have thedate for the show, that's that's
when all the sets would playback to back.
So, yeah, yeah, man, that'skind of how it came to be.
Uh, I would, I would just reachout to someone, I would tell
them, you know, 20, 30 minutesset, depending on how many

(59:12):
people we'd have.
And it's up to them, however,they'd want to do it.
Some people would, you know,pick a cool spot and show their
face and actually film it with acamera.
Other people would just do justvisual visualizers or take
clips from movies and put theirbeats behind it.
But, yeah, man, I reallycouldn't believe the reception

(59:32):
we got, even on the very firstepisode.
Like I was heavily watchingOmar Jazz at the time and I just
he had a, he had a littlesection on his discord.
That was like, you know,promote your streams or promote
your, your, your shows.
And I put it in there and Isaid, you know, first, first

(59:53):
episode with myself, bobby Mackworks and less lock art.
Just four of us and he poppedin there and him and lesser are
are are cool.
So he was like oh, did lessperform yet and I'm like dude,
it's the first set.
You came in like pretty earlyon.
He's like, okay, bet, he threwit out to his discord message
like come here, and then justlike 60 people, 75 people, just

(01:00:17):
joined the stream and so I waslike oh, that was on episode one
.
So I had.
I had a lot of motivation tokeep it going, not to mention a
lot of other people and names.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I wanted to get some shine to and have people meet,
you know man, there's so many,and it's people coming from
across the world to come performat organic beat sessions.
To me once, everything startedopening back up and stuff like
that.
But I was watching the onlinejoints.

(01:00:48):
I don't think I was on Twitchquite yet, I think I was just
seeing everything on YouTube,but man, or on Instagram, but
man, yo.
It was very like yo, how arethey doing?
Like, how are y'all doing this?
Everybody's got their ownjoints.
And then y'all, like I wasalways wondering like how did
y'all do that?
And I was like I don't know.

(01:01:10):
But, man, I'm glad you did itthough, because you somebody
could have talked to you out ofit right away.
You know it was a lot of movingpeople Everybody says that but
you chose to go ahead and pullthe trigger.
Man, like, why did you treat?
Why did you still choose to doit?

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
And I got, you know, shout out, shout out to Brown,
booty Brown, from the far side,man, he, he saw that people were
into it.
He was like, oh, okay, yeah,let's, let's keep doing this,
you know.
So, yeah, we just kept it going.
At the time, you know, I'd metsome cats from Australia.
They were doing kind of asimilar thing Pizza Night Shout

(01:01:51):
out, shout out, lash, lash.
You know, we did our secondshow to kind of a little
collaboration with them, andthen after that we moved it a
little collaboration withtoday's Future Sound.
And then after that I kind ofjust started just reaching out
to people.
I'd give them about a month,months notice and I just started
booking it up like months andmonths in advance, yeah, and,

(01:02:12):
and we did that for the betterpart of, I want to say, like a
year and a half.
And then we found JDC recordsand, yeah, started started doing
it live in person wheneverything started to open back
up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Man, jdc records, that record store God, everybody
always takes like videos goingout from the outside, going in.
Yeah man, it's got so muchmusical energy in that spot,
like so many people have comethrough there.
Jdc.
I don't know who owns JDCrecords, but man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
The owner is Jim and he actually used to engineer for
Bootsy Collins, george Clinton.
You know he did a lot of theP-Funk stuff back in the 70s and
they actually used todistribute records.
So I think during the 80s theystarted to work a lot with the

(01:03:09):
Egyptian Lover as well, andEgyptian Lover still comes
through once a year at the endof the year and performs there.
So, yeah, there's there's a lotof rich, rich history with with
JDC records.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Man, how did you even , how did you even come in
contact with you, know Farsideand the group members from the
Farside and JDC records?
How did you all connect?
How did you all connect thedots to make this happen?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
So, like I stopped kind of doing the Twitch stuff
when, when everything started toopen back up, I just, you know,
now I'm starting to do my, mywork, you know, working part
time, full time.
So you know, my, my, my, youknow I'm just shifting around my
priorities here a little bit.

(01:03:59):
Yeah, I was through.
My buddy that I used to workwith is his cousin, used to do
work for Farside, doing somelike webpage design and stuff.
So that's how we met with BootyBrown, who runs Farside TV, and
with JDC.
I actually live pretty, prettyclose in proximity to JDC

(01:04:19):
records.
One day it was, it was actuallyto keep to key and who knows,
came over to make some beats.
We were making beats like everySunday for a good, good part of
the year.
We were just having these,these sessions.
And he's like we always saw therecord store.
We've been meaning to go in.
He's like you guys want to goto the record store today or
like, yeah, fuck it, let's gowalk in.
And yeah, we met Suzanne, who'skind of like an operating

(01:04:43):
manager there she's.
She's there pretty much everyday of the week and she, you
know, salute to Suzanne man.
She was and still is veryreceptive to us.
You know she even started tolet us host flip a B club there
when, when we started to getinvolved with that.
And yeah, it's, it's stillgoing.
You know we have a show in twodays there.

(01:05:04):
So you know, from from, fromtwitch to the record store.
Man, yeah, just keeping itgoing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yo yo, very inspiring , and you like?
What episode or what shownumbers this that you're about
to go into?

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Okay, so I think I kind of lost track of the twitch
shows.
I broke them up to to twitch,we made it to 23 twitch shows,
and it's so that's.
That's once a year, so yeah,and then we are on 17 live shows

(01:05:42):
.
Yeah, man we did double up acouple of months and then maybe
took a month off here and there.
So it's, it's, you know, butfor the most part it's once a
month.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
And you know, it's just.
I'm gonna go through some ofthe people that just been coming
through through the recordstore joints.
Man, you got third child Off,off grid.
Allamode wave groove Zelante,telly McLean, who's yo?

(01:06:16):
Man, that guy's crazy with the.
With the beat, the beats yo.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Shout out, telly man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Telly man Um, let me see who else One third, eero
Zilla shout out to Eero Zilla.
Man Just turn.
I think 42.
I'm not sure, um, um, ali WanKenobi.
Man like Mr Low.
Man like so many you got somany people coming through there

(01:06:43):
.
Man Like um, and I know it'slike time consuming and um, you
know, sometimes it's maybe notbeing enjoyable and stuff like
that, but I do want to ask thisquestion because I do want to
see things like this grow andcontinue to help other beat
makers, music producers, get youknow, perform live and get out

(01:07:04):
of there, get out of the bedroomor wherever they make in their
music.
What can we do?
What can the internet listeningto this do to help you push
this even more?

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Oh, man, you know, visit, visit the YouTube you can
watch.
Well, I'm a little bit behindon on editing some of these
shows now, but you knoweverything pretty much about
eight months behind, honestly,but everything up until that
point is is recorded anddocumented on on YouTube.
So that's, that's all of theJDC shows, as well as all the

(01:07:41):
Twitch stuff as well, and thenyou can obviously go to our band
camp, get the past, the Dutchcompilation and man also, if
you're interested in performing,just shoot either organic beat
sessions or Maddie J DM on onInstagram.
If you're, I love featuringpeople that are traveling and
coming into town.

(01:08:01):
You know, just just rock withus for a night.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Man tapes Rhino, willie Bundo, strong, maurice,
all the way.
Yo man, like yo, sylvan Corden,jax, tilda Funk, jester, like
be with, shout out to be with me.
Yeah, man, so many people.
Yo man, yeah, we guys.

(01:08:24):
I like to see things like thiskeep happening, man, especially
in record stores.
Like man, like that's yo,that's dope man, that's dope man
, Yo keep keep doing this man.
However, the rex show podcastand can support you man, just
shoot me, dm me man, let me knowI got you.

(01:08:46):
Man, I ain't you know anytimeyou know for real.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
I got to ask you about and this last last few
questions, because I know yougot things to do with Friday, um
it's all good.
I've got to ask you about your,your beat making process Like
what is what is your processlike when you're about to sit

(01:09:15):
down and just start creatingsomething?
What is it?
What is that?
What is it?
What is it like before, duringand after?

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Man, there's, I feel like there's always a jump off
point and it can be anythingfrom a sample or even just like
a hi hat progression.
You know, like a littlesomething I've been tapping all
day.
I'm like, oh man, I need to, Ineed to record that when I get
home, or something like that.
And then, jumping off fromthere, I just start start adding

(01:09:50):
shit.
You know, going back to why whyI love Ableton they have this
feature called capture and ifyou play any MIDI like you could
be playing, you could just bejamming for, I think, up to 30
minutes.
And if you like what you justdid, you're like, oh shit, next
to the record button, you justhit the capture button.
You don't even have to berecording It'll, it'll save it

(01:10:12):
and then it'll just pop up andyou can just start going through
and picking out loops and youcan start ranging it from there.
Pull up, pull up some more VST,start start adding and layering
.
And you know, manipulatingaudio.
I love taking like, if it's a,if it's an audio clip or you
know some, some chops.
I'm like, okay, well, what doesthis sound like if I hit half

(01:10:35):
time?
What does it sound like if Ipitch it up an octave.
What is you know?
Just, it's really messingaround.
You know, I don't really knowwhat the outcome is going to be.
Sometimes Sometimes I do.
Sometimes I'm like, oh, I got agood idea, but other times I'm
just like, oh, what if I reversethis?
What's that going to sound like?
You know?
Just just play around with it,you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done that too, man.
Just I'm like man, I'm notreally like set on this, what it
may be a sample or somethinglike that.
I'm like, ah, let me see whathappens if I reverse the chops
and then play the chops and thenthere's usually something like
holy crap.
Yeah, it's like a holy crapmoment, like, oh snap, like that

(01:11:14):
would be worth it.
Then you get the drums right.
Yeah, oh, man, creation is socrazy.
Man Like man, I, I.
Every time I like I don't knowif it's you, know for you, but
every time I like make somethingthat's like so good, I'm like I
put my hands in my face Like,oh my gosh, thank you, man.
Cause you know, sometimes itcan be a little bit hard

(01:11:38):
creating, especially, you know,with daily life going on and you
know work, school, you knowadult responsibilities happening
.
But you know, like, how do youovercome, you know, every your,
your, your daily life and andgive it time in your, you know,

(01:11:59):
creation life.
Like how do you balance that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I'd say just just set , set small goals.
You know, I think when I wasfirst starting off was was, you
know, I would set these big,lofty expectations on myself and
sometimes they would getachieved.
But sometimes I won't, andyou're just kind of setting
yourself up for disappointmentwhen you do that.
So if you just say to yourself,like I haven't cooked up in a

(01:12:25):
few days and I got a couple ofdays off of work coming up, I'm
going to cook one beat each dayand I'm just going to make a
four bar loop, I guarantee youit'll, it'll turn into an eight
bar loop and then you'll make awhole track out of it.
You just have to get thatstarting point, you know, just
open up, able to just make somedrums chop it up a little bit

(01:12:47):
and then, even if it's notsomething you like, hopefully
you still learn something fromthe process of, of why maybe
that didn't work exactly ormaybe it really worked.
And and you, you have a newtrick that you're going to do to
every single one of your beatsfrom that point on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you for that, man.
Yeah, that's definitely a keythat you just dropped on us
right now.
You know gems that you justdropped on us.
Oh, man, I almost forgot.
Man, I have to ask you aboutthis, uh, pure sampling volume

(01:13:24):
one that you contributed to um,which came out in like 2022, I
believe, man, that's a um, adope collage of sounds as well.
Like what was that process?
Like?
Uh, contributing to puresampling volume one?
Oh, yeah, yeah Um no, youforgot, you even created.

(01:13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
That's, that's the homie, uh, proctess.
Uh, I believe he's out of Chile.
And again, that's another uh,today's future sound connection.
Um, that dude you knowdifferent time zones and whatnot
when we're on the zoom calls.
He would be like either justwaking up or be up for like 18
hours to stay on the zoom callwith us.
And uh, yeah, he just reachedout and you know, at the time I

(01:14:12):
was, I was doing those Sundaysessions with Tiki and who knows
.
So I had a lot of a lot ofjoints that never got released
and I said, hey, well, you know,can I send you some collab
stuff or do you want stuff forme?
And he ended up picking out, uh, two joints one of my uh solo
tracks and that one I made withuh who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yeah, yeah, wow man that's a proctess man.
Yeah, proctess man Yo um, Ididn't know it was from.
I didn't know he was from Chile, though.
Wow, wow, yeah, yeah, we really, we all over man, so many, yeah
man.

(01:14:52):
That gives me a start.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yeah, Shout out to shout out to filthy man Philip
Drummond, that dude staystraveling.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah, yeah, he all over.
Man Like um, yeah, man, as amatter of fact, internet's man,
go ahead and tap into um PhilipDrummond's episode.
Man, we did a uh, a secondepisode Um, and we talked about
a lot of different things.
Man, he dropped us so many gemson that episode Um, I think it

(01:15:18):
was like maybe the second to thelast episode last year in
season three.
But yo man, tap in, tap intothat man, he's um, he's doing
some amazing things with today'sfuture sound and his nonprofit
that he started and, um, youknow, just reaching so many
people.
Man, that um, man, he, yo, yeah, support the homie man.

(01:15:41):
That's all I'm gonna say issupport the homie man and uh,
contribute.
Whenever you know the uh, youknow the fun, the, the, the, the
fundraising starts, contributeman, he, um, he hooked me, I
actually I got to do a videoabout what he sent me too, man,
so you know um man, yo, maddie Jman Um, you know this is only

(01:16:02):
part one.
This is only a snapshot of whereyou are right now.
You know where you came from,you know where you are right now
, um and I, I open this is anopen invitation man, like, if
you um everyone to come back onthe show, man, the door is open
now you got to do his DME.
Let me know, you ain't.

(01:16:24):
You know?
No, said man, just we got toset a date and let's go, brother
, like you got an album comingout.
Hit me up, man, you want to.
You want to promote it when wewant to talk, you want to do a
segment, because I also do, uh,beat stermanos, man, where you
know I link with um, my fellowmutants, and they got an album
coming out and then we just doan album, a track by track play

(01:16:44):
and just talk about the albumand you know what was the
inspiration behind it andeverything that went into
creating this album.
So yeah, man, it's an openinvitation for you.
Maddie J, I appreciate you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Oh, I'm much loved man.
Likewise man, they had a timeon sloobie Super quick man Like
yo.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
That's how yo, we can talk for hours on this stuff,
man, but you know things, mygirls is knocking on the door
right now Like yo, daddy, weneed you.
So I'm like, I'm like, allright, um, but yeah, man, I, um,
I appreciate you.
How can, how can the internet'stap into you and where can they

(01:17:28):
find you on the on theinternet's man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Yeah, man, um, we mentioned a lot of it.
You know you can check out mysoundcloud.
I think my earliest track justhit like 11 years old, so I got
a lot of stuff on there.
Uh, bandcamp, you know, uh gotthat single up on there and my
album, the past, the Dutch Purosampling, um, and then also
shout out, shout out to BobbyMack, man, he, oh, uh, during I

(01:17:54):
think it was like a tail end ofthe pandemic he put me on, uh,
the Coddy Wampool compilationand that was another huge like
achievement for me.
Man, that's got a lot of heavyhitters on there, like
soundtracks on there.
Fucking Duke West Lake Dearyhas it, uh, yeah.
So, yeah, check out CoddyWampool records, uh, compilation
, um, and then, as well, youknow, check out organic beat

(01:18:17):
sessions.
We just put out the past, theDutch thing, but I think we're
in talks of of, you know,starting to release a couple of
the homies projects as well as,um, I got a ton of ton of, uh,
uh, collapse that I've done withwith all the local homies.
You know, shout out, press moreis to key.
Who knows less lock heart, um,yeah, man, um, just just got a

(01:18:40):
lot of stuff in the works.
I got a lot of stuff you knowbacklogged I got to put out
still.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
So you won't be busy then.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just you know, keep, keep
you ear to the ground.
Uh, follow Maddie J, followorganic beat sessions.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Yeah, man, yo, the internet's.
Go ahead and follow them.
Right now I'm a link to linkall the links where you can find
them.
Support, contribute, um on adescription of the show,
especially to the, the the past,the Dutchy, uh compilation.
Um, man, I'm a link that in thedescription of the show as well
.
Um, man, maddie J man, or doyou have like any um, any

(01:19:21):
thoughts?
You want to leave the thelisteners or the the mutants?
Um, before you go, man, just uh, just just keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
You know, I know it's , uh, it's, there's a lot of us
out there, there's a lot ofproducers.
I know sometimes it could be alittle, a little bit
overwhelming, but if this istruly something that you enjoy
and that you you like doing,just just just keep, keep at it.
You know I'm still learningstuff every day, um, whether

(01:19:54):
it's you know a little researchI'm doing or from the homies you
know like, and if you, if youhear something you like, like,
just reach out to people, man, alot of people are very
receptive.
I found through over the years,um and uh, I've, I've built
some great relationships, justjust cold calling, just hitting
people up and them beingreceptive and and, uh, yeah,

(01:20:15):
just just building some greatrelationships over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
I got you.
I got you, man, yo, I want tosay thank you for your time, you
know.
Thank you for your energy, man,thank you for doing what you do
with, you know, your music andand and organic beat sessions
and um, especially for um, whatyou did for uh, you and the
homies did for a duchy man, duchmassive man, um, man, I really

(01:20:44):
appreciate you, man, and I wishyou uh blessings, um, for the
rest of the year.
Man, I'm definitely tapped inand I know the NNS that are
listening to this episode aregoing to tap in with you on your
socials and um, on the YouTubesand organic beat sessions as
well.
Man, a farsight TV.
Shout out to farsight as well.
Um, and JDC, is it JDC recordstore?

(01:21:06):
Yeah, yeah, shout out to JDCrecord store as well.
Man, that's in California, isthat?
Is that a part of LA?

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Yeah, so it's.
We're pretty south, but SanPedro is still city of Los
Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
San Pedro.
Okay, yeah, Shout out to all myto San Pedro man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
San Pedro.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Man, shout out to y'all man, but I want to say
thank you, man.
Thank you for your time.
Man and um, again, openinvitation whenever you want to
come back.
Man, you know I'm trying tokeep this thing going for at
least 20 years, if not more.
Man, I'm only on year four, sowe still a baby man.
So, um, we're going to see youagain.

(01:21:46):
Ain't no doubt about that, man.
I appreciate you bro.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Hell yeah, man, and I want to give you your flowers
too.
Man, this is really dope whatyou're doing.
And uh yeah, man, I know how itcan be like juggling life and
then trying to trying to dosomething a little bit
extracurricular as well.
So I I mad respect for whatyou're doing, man.
Much love.

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