October 28, 2024 • 30 mins
Imagine transforming your life with a single, unexpected encounter. That's exactly what happened to me after a chance meeting with Charles at a roofing conference, which led to deep discussions about psychedelics and personal enlightenment. Through these serendipitous experiences, I realized the universe often guides us towards collaboration and growth when we're open to the synchronicities that life presents."
Entrepreneurs often grapple with the fine line between trust and control, especially when it comes to delegation. Drawing from my own experience of promoting a team member to a leadership role, I compare this process to crafting a delicate flower vase. It's about finding the courage to step away from daily operations to seize larger growth opportunities like acquisitions, all while embracing pattern interrupts that can shift perspectives amidst life's unpredictabilities.
Finally, let's talk about the explosive journey of ego death and universal consciousness. Inspired by the boundless energy of Dragon Ball Z, I share my awakening that led to a reevaluation of faith and personal beliefs. This episode invites you to envision and cultivate your future self, highlighting the importance of patience and a macro perspective on personal development, with wisdom from historical figures like Marcus Aurelius guiding us towards becoming the greatest version of ourselves.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Right, you're like that buzzer ain't rang, that
game ain't over with, so keepgoing.
I have thrived in that chaos.
How could this be happening?
Did any of you guys payattention to anything I said?
Like get arrested, guess, untilthey get the message.
(00:24):
Welcome back to the recklessceo podcast, where we keep it
real raw and reckless aboutbusiness and life.
They ain't really gotten thesauce and I ain't got.
You know what I mean it's like.
Here is your host, the recklessceo himself, michael mcgovern.
Welcome back to the recklessCEO podcast.
(00:44):
It's been a minute since I haverecorded a solo podcast.
I'm excited to come in todayand share with you just some
recent discoveries, recentjourneys that I have personally
gone on.
So I'll give you a high leveloverview of what we're going to
be covering today and kind ofhow I ended up there, right?
So what I want to be talkingabout today is a couple weeks
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ago, I ended up going down toFlorida.
A buddy of mine owns my selfwellness facility down there.
It is a ketamine therapytreatment center Incredible
place, incredible experience.
It was a life-changingexperience.
I'm excited to share about that.
But before I get into that, Ithink one of the biggest things
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to me.
That I really took away from itwas just the synchronicities.
There's so many areas in ourlife that we glide through, we
get into tunnel vision.
We're moving and we're notseeing the opportunities or the
areas in our life that hasalignment, whether that's
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alignment as far as your goalsand what you're achieving
towards or the relationshipsthat are in your life.
A lot of times, when we'removing at a fast speed
especially if you're anentrepreneur or you're a
salesperson or you're startingout you're getting into this
kind of self-development.
You know there's so much focusaround the knowledge that you're
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consuming, the relationshipsthat you have around you.
You know there's so many thingsthat has to be constantly
changing as you evolve andchange.
And I think that if we don'tslow down to really see these
areas and reflect on those areas, that we can miss a lot of
really good things that arehappening in life.
And I personally know exactlywhat that's like because you
know I have been on this missionfor the past six years of just,
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you know, running as fast as Ican, building as fast as we can,
growing everything that we can.
And you know, in the midst ofall of that I look back and you
know I've lost relationships andfriendships and people that
were close to me, and maybe evenopportunities to serve people
and help people and be a betterindividual, because I was locked
in on this, this, you know,goal and this vision that I'm
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chasing.
But at the same time, we haveto be able to find that balance
between, you know, the goalsthat we're driving towards and
then today, right, being presentin the day, being present in
reality.
A lot of times we're trying toescape the reality, escape the
matrix, but there's a lot ofopportunities in our daily, in a
day to day, that we have to beof impact to people, you know,
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share love and connection andand just really, you know allow
our energy and what we possessas individuals to resonate to
all of those around us.
And so, as I get into this, afriend of mine, his name's
Charles he had a crazy, crazyconnection the way that him and
I had met.
So I was actually down at aroofing conference last year.
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I was speaking at theconference and in the back room
we had the VIP section for thespeakers and things like that.
And so Charles he's not in theroofing space, really had no
reason of being there other thanhe had seen something online.
A friend of his was kind oflike emceeing it.
And so his friends say, come onby, charles comes through.
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And he says, hey, come on backto the back room, get some lunch
, you know, hang out with someof the speakers, things like
that.
And so out of this room of 50people, I end up at this table
and Charles happens to besitting at the table.
And this was, this was one ofthose moments, right, and we
talk about the synchronicity,right, the things that.
And when I say synchronicityit's, you know, a lot of times
we are seeking things right andthe universe is going to put
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those things in front of us,whether it's through another
individual, whether it's through, you know, an opportunity or a
connection, but we have to bepaying attention and looking
right.
And so for Charles, you know,his side of the story is that,
you know, he had kind ofactually had an issue with some
of his previous businesspartners and he said, dude, I
was praying before I, you know,went into this event that like,
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hey, you know, let me, let meconnect with some people there.
So next thing, you know, him andI are sitting at this table,
again, 50 people or so in thereand we just started having these
conversations around.
You know psychedelics andalignment and enlightenment and
like all of these things, right.
And when you're talking aboutroofing, right, not that
everybody is against it or notfor it, but you know it's not
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necessarily a enlightenment,isn't something that you sit
around and talk to a bunch ofcontractors about all the time,
right.
And so the fact that we gotinto this conversation was very,
very interesting, right.
And so you know, time goes on.
Him and I connected that day.
It really got me excited forthe conversation we had, but I
also didn't think that I was atthe position where I wanted to
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kind of jump in and go do allthat yet, right.
And so come back to season.
We're working, everything'smoving.
Again, he happened to be uphere for the Arnold Classic here
in Columbus and came in Him andI shot a podcast he started to
share with me again, talkingabout his facility and how bad
he'd love for me to come down.
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And again, I'm kind of wantingto do it, but it never feels
like the right time to reallytake care of yourself, and so I
kind of pushed it off, butknowing that I needed to At this
point.
Even before I went, know,growing the business, I've
continued to kind of scale thebusiness, you know, slowly pull
myself out of the business aswell, delegate, elevate, you
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know, put people in positions,write people on the bus, people
off the bus, right.
There's all of these thingsthat are moving and happening as
I'm building the business.
But in the midst of all of that, right, it's like if I look
back and said, man, you know,three years ago, four years ago,
I couldn't imagine being wherewe are, you know, and although I
was, I've had a goal in seekingsomething, you know.
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At the same time, you know, youkind of look back and say, like
, how did we get here Right?
And then, as you look at howdid we get here, you look at
thinking you know, how did I gethere Right?
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And I found myself, don't wantto say spiraling right, but I
found myself in this pattern of,you know, constantly having to
be stimulated and moving andjust, you know, never being able
to slow down enough, neverbeing able to be intentional.
I feel like my focus has beenlacking, you know it.
Just, you're spread thin, right,I think, as entrepreneurs.
You know, we there there'ssomething to be said about guys
that can grid it out and getthrough the hard shit and build
the stuff right.
And, you know, put your team onyour back and do everything
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that it takes to become theindividual that people want to
be around.
But I think becoming thatindividual can be scary as well
and it can be lonely as well.
Right, because not everybody'sgoing to understand the drive
that you have or the why youhave that drive.
Not everybody is going to bethere when you know you might
have a team of 30 people, butthat doesn't mean that you know,
when payroll comes around, thateverybody's chipping in to make
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sure things are taken care of.
Right, there's a lot of thingsthat you have to internally
internalize, right, or battlebecause you can't.
Necessarily, because, as theleader, you are the ceiling.
As the leader, you are thefront runner.
That means that you're going in, you're testing environments,
you're making sure it's safe,you're expanding into new
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horizons and ideas and tryingthis.
And as you're going and doingall these things, you've got
people that are watching you,listening to you, growing with
you.
Right, and one of the keys tobeing a great leader is being
consistent, right?
I always say that people willfind consistency, people will
find comfortability in yourconsistency, and so, as a leader
, the more that you are up anddown and up and down this roller
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coaster, the less you're goingto have a community or a culture
of people get around you,because they never know what
your emotions are going to beRight.
So, even when things are bad,you can't really discuss how bad
they might be at times.
And so it's like we have theseexperiences and these traumas
and we just bottle them up andwe shelf it and we keep going
and we bottom up, we shelf, wekeep, because we know that
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sharing that could one.
Maybe it distracts the team,maybe it puts fear in the team,
and you can't afford to havethat happen.
And so we get into this patternof running and sprinting and
moving as fast as we can, whichis great because you're
achieving and you're growing,but you're also numbing, right,
you're numbing yourself, you'rejust going through the motions,
and I think that it's veryimportant to you know, stay
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aware of those emotions, stayaware of thinking and knowing
when you are numbing, when youaren't being present, when you
aren't in.
You know your unique abilityand doing the things that you
need to be doing.
And so for me, I felt like Ihad been going through that
phase.
The universe again, I think itspeaks to you, or God will speak
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to you, and he tells you, hey,you might have a thought that
tells you go try this thing, godo this thing.
Well, everything had kind ofaligned for me to go take this
trip.
I had recently promoted one ofour sales reps and a guy that's
been in the business with me fora few years promoted him to the
COO, made that move.
Well, that move in itself isalso kind of a scary move, right
(09:46):
?
It's like I heard them talkabout something the other day
that said you know, asentrepreneurs or the founder of
a company, you know, a lot oftimes people say you know that
you're scared to give up control, and I don't really know that
it's actually a control thing.
I think there's a bigdifference between trust and
control, because I know that forme personally it's rarely a
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control thing.
I would love to be able to giveit up.
I love to be able to delegateand bring somebody up and
empower them to, you know, stepinto that next version of
themselves.
That's an exciting thing.
That's an awesome thing as afounder, but it's the trust that
gets you right.
I they said that you know, uh,building a company is kind of
like a a flower vase, right,you're you're sculpting it,
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you're you're building it andyou finally got it done, right,
and you're, you know, you handit off to somebody to to start
to delegate some things, andthen they drop it and it breaks
to pieces, right, so you'repicking it back up and as you're
picking it back up, you'regetting a scar here and you're
getting a scar there.
So all of a sudden, it's neverreally a control thing, as much
of it to trust thing You'rewalking around with this baby
that you've built and you'vegrown, but you've got all these
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scars from trusting the wrongpeople and delegating to the
wrong people.
And so you know, even for me,as I'm, you know, promoting to
Nate, to our COO, there's fearin that.
And it's not fear of I don'tthink that he can handle it,
it's fear of is this the rightperson?
What if it's not?
Everything in me says it is,but what if it's not?
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What if it goes the differentdirection?
What if I lose control of thepeople?
What if people start to look athim as a leader and look at me
as not one.
Right, it's all of thesethoughts that you start to go
through.
And so, for me, I know that thenext level of our business is me
getting out of the weeds, megetting above the business on
the business, buildingrelationships and connections.
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In the next level, right For us, our goal is to really lean
into acquisitions, acquiringother roofing companies.
That's going to require me tobecome an individual that I
haven't been yet.
On top of that, it's also goingand getting money from private
investors and scaling acorporation out, and so there's
all of these things, and I can'tdo that if I'm where I was at
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in the business.
And so I say all that becausethis is the preface of why I
wanted to go down there, becauseI knew that, you know, for me,
every time it's time to level up, every time it's time for me to
expand into that, that nextlevel of me, I have to have some
form of a pattern, interruptSomething that shifts me,
something that shifts myconsciousness, something that
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shifts my momentum, right, or myjust the way that my view
things, and the patterns that I,that I'm doing over and over
again, right.
And so, you know, I hit upCharles, I said man, I'm ready
to come down.
And so, for me, I don't reallywatch much news.
I try to stay away fromanything that doesn't really
involve me directly.
I like to be aware, but I don'tlike to get too deep into it.
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Right?
And so the morning of I get atext and there's and everyone's
saying are you going down?
You know there's a hurricanethat's coming through the area
that you're going to.
You should cancel, youshouldn't go, all of these
things.
Now, for me, you know, when Icommit to something, when I jump
into something, I'm usuallygoing to stick with that thing
and see it through.
I'm going to move forward withit.
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And there's also a part of me,too, where it's like, when you
get into kind of thinking, youknow universal law and all of
these things, where you knowmaybe there's a reason why you
know the hurricane was hittingthat, hitting in that area, and
everyone's telling me not to go.
And maybe they're saying youknow, don't go.
I know there's a, there's a,there's a devil's side of it.
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Maybe that's an exponentialgrowth, maybe that's a human
being that the wrong peopleshould be scared of, right.
And so for me, it's like Icould find a way to kind of feel
empowered to actually want togo through with it, even though
the storms and things are coming.
And so I get down there.
I get off the plane and I'mwalking out of the airport and I
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hear someone yell Govsy.
And I turn around and it was afriend of mine, tim Bayless, who
I played junior hockey withback in Boston back in the day,
and I hadn't seen Tim in 15years, right and again in the
moment before I got down thereand started taking the medicine
and trying things out.
Even that connection, it wasvery service level.
(14:03):
Hey man, good to see you again,what are you doing?
I got down there and got andstarted taking the medicine and
trying things out.
You know, I even thatconnection, it was very service
level.
Hey man, good to see you again.
What are you doing down here?
Awesome, talk to you later.
I got stuff to do and head itout, right.
So I get there and the stormsare coming in Now we go in and
we do the, I do the, I do thetreatment on Monday.
And you know the way that theydo, they kind of dose it out.
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So you try your first dose,then your second one and they
can usually expand it out overtwo weeks.
You'll go back and forth, maybesix times is what they like to
do, just because they want tobuild you up to that.
The capacity to make sure thatyou know you can really like't
something.
That is for the faint of heart.
This isn't something that youjust go in and it's easy peasy
and you get through it.
Like it is exhausting, it wearsyou out, right.
When you, when you get sodisassociated by the medicine
and then you come back toreality, I mean there's a lot of
things that just don't feelright, right.
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And so first day I go in, gothrough it and I said that you
know, my experience with that isthat I kind of I didn't go into
this.
You know crazy visuals andthings like that, but it almost
felt like this, like rollingclouds of stars and lava, right,
this black, like an atmospherickind of visual, right, and it
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was like the levels that I wouldcontinue to go through as it.
You know, in any kind ofexperience like that, you've got
your beginning, you've got yourmiddle and you've got your end
and right.
And so in the beginning youkind of like jump into this
thing and then you're goingthrough it and you're working
through it.
And for those of you have nevertried that medicine, you know it
is a disassociate.
So what happens is that itdisconnects you from mind to
body, right, or even right lane,right brain to left, brain,
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right, all of the things thattell you you're insignificant,
you're not good enough, you'reinsecure, your fear of
rejections, all of those thingsyou know, those voices become
separated in those moments.
And so, as you're going throughthis, you feel that you know no
one's there, like, is everybodygone?
Am I the only thing?
I'm like this little ball ofenergy just floating through the
ecosystem on a recliner, likeit was the craziest thing.
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You can't even move, rightYou're, you're legitimately like
, all your, all you are is in it.
And then you come out of itRight and you know.
So that was day one.
Day two very similar to thesame thing, um, you know.
Day three I Two, very similarto the same thing.
Now, day three.
I was supposed to do it and thestorms come, the hurricane comes
in and my buddy that owns theplace says Mike, you can come
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crash with us for a couple days.
And so I go over and not acouple days, come, crash with us
for the night, right, and thengo back to your Airbnb the
following day.
So I go over, stay with him andthen on Thursday the storm
comes through, you know, reallydoes, does some damage in the
area, a lot of power out, thingslike that.
Thursday I go back to my Airbnband Airbnb is flooded and
there's no power and at thispoint also, there's nowhere to
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really get hotels.
There's no really Airbnbs leftover.
So I'm kind of, you know, upthe creek without a paddle, I
don't really have a place to go.
Now, my buddy that owns theplace, you know I could stay
there for a couple days but he'sgot, you know, a family and you
know he's got kids and dogs andyou know it just wasn't
something I wanted to really,you know, be a hassle to him on.
And so I reached out to myfriend, tim right, and I said
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hey, man, you know, can up,going down and Tim's house
sitting on a place that's got apool and it's a gated community
and just a beautiful place, likeeverything that I wanted to
experience from this trip right,like when I was going down
there, I was excited because I'mlike I got a spot I'm going to
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be able to kind of detach.
I'm going to go through thisexperience.
I'm going to be able to spendsome time by the water and all
of this stuff.
Well, monday, tuesday,wednesday none of that was able
to happen, and even the placethat I was at, because of the
surges and the flooding, wasn'table to go back to there, and so
now everything that I thoughtthis experience was going to be
really ended up becomingcompletely different.
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But that's actually kind of thebeauty in it, right, because I
didn't have this attachment orexpectation to you know how I
thought it should be or what itwas going to be like, and you
know all of these things.
It's like, through the medicine, it actually helped me to
become more detached, right.
It helped me to be a littlemore nimble, a little more
flexible, a little moreadaptable, rather than I almost
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felt like I was kind of a nomadfor a few days, where I'm just
bouncing around on couches andliving out of a suitcase and all
of these things.
And it was a beautifulexperience.
And you know, as we get intothat Thursday, I go down there
and I'm seeing Tim and hangingout.
You know he's working, and so Igot to spend a whole day by the
pool after two days of themedicine, you know, and I just
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sat there and just felt sograteful, right, so connected,
um, energy was in alignment.
You know, I, I, I look back andsay, man, four years ago, you
know, four years ago, I couldhave never went away from the
business for, you know, twoweeks without, uh, you know,
opening an email or callingpeople or going through it.
So it's like just that, enoughjust becoming disconnected,
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enough that I'm sitting thereand just grateful for all of
this, like just overwhelmingemotions.
Right, I said I legitimatelyhad a tear in my eye as I sat
there by the pool and just waslike, how, how do we get here?
How did I get here?
Right, so immediately.
It's like one of those thingsof like, I need to find ways to
create this space more often,right.
And so Friday comes, I go upfor my last one and I tell
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Charles hey, man, listen, thisis my last day.
Give me the, give me the Godnews.
I've heard a lot of cool thingsabout a lot of experience about
it.
Like, I, I believe that I havethe capacity to go full tilt on
this thing.
So like, let's do that.
And so I go in and I start offthere.
They do that your first roundof it and it's very similar to
the second there, to the firsttwo, and then they come back in
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midway through it and you'restill in your, you're still in
your experience.
They come in and they theyjuicy again.
And the second that happened, Isaid I it felt like I was
literally shot out of a cannon.
Happen, I said it felt like Iwas literally shot out of a
cannon, like I.
I've never been a big DragonBall Z guy, but if you watch the
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shows where, like, theexplosions of, like white light
just expands around them, theyget this full power, like that's
exactly what it felt like,right, and I just had this, this
overwhelmed like all.
At one time it hit me as I'mgoing through this.
It was like an hysteric laughand crying and screaming and
just like you couldn't controlanything that was coming at you.
But it really felt like this,like this ego death, right.
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And for me I would say that youknow, as I've leading up to this
over the past few months, maybethe last six months or so, you
know even my connection with youknow my faith is, is it
struggled?
And religion, and just, youknow all of these things.
I feel like that, as we growand expand as individuals, you
know there's a lot of thingsthat we've been told our whole
lives, that we start to maybesee some holes in, or we start
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to maybe change our perspective.
And it's such a fine line tobattle because that means that
if you're changing yourperspective at 30 years old,
then does that mean that for thelast 30 years, everything that
you believed is a just me, am Igoing crazy?
Right, and so, but going throughthis experience and really, you
know, kind of having that egodeath and feeling that you know
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how really everybody isconnected, right, we're all,
we're all connected by thisuniversal consciousness, right,
that that that is just abundantthrough everybody, right, and,
and and so much of it is theenergy that we have in every day
.
And how are we showing up andwhere are we calibrating and
what are we consuming?
Right, because we're all goodat things, right, but I think
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that every one of us has thatnatural ability to be that
energy source, to have that aura, to be able to walk into a room
and people see you, they knowyou and even if they don't know
you, they, they, they can feelyour presence.
Right.
We all have that power, but forso many of us, we don't tap
into it, we don't believe thatwe, we actually possess it right
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.
And if you, and if you are aperson that is, you know,
believes in God and has thisfaith right, then then you
should understand that you weredesigned and made in his like,
right in his image.
Therefore, you can create,Therefore you can manifest,
therefore you can empower and bethat that same energy that God
breathes life into us, like youcould be breathing that into
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other people.
And that was one of the biggestthings for me of just really
being able to look back andbeing grateful for everything up
to this point, and then reallybeing able to look back and
being grateful for everything upto this point, and then really
being able to see, like man, youknow, I have allowed myself to
be focused on the wrong things,distracted by the wrong things,
right, like since that day I'veeven, you know, removed social
media from my phone, and youknow all of these things,
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because I'm realizing that it'sall of these little incremental
distractions that we come acrossevery day that keeps us from
connecting with those peoplethat we get to experience in our
lives every day.
Even as a business owner,sometimes I'll get in the point
where I'm like a recluse andI'll be in the back office and
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I'm just working and pushing anddoing and for for me that
anytime things get difficult oror I face struggles in the
business, I always tend toovercompensate with more work.
I work harder, right.
That's my for me.
I've always held so much of mybelief system or my um, you know
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the values that I have.
I've always kind of looked atthat through this work ethic
thing where, like, I can outworkeverybody, I can work hard, I
can show it.
I got a chip on my shoulder,you know.
You kind of run off this badenergy, but that bad energy
isn't going to get you to thenext level, right.
That bad energy might inspireyou, right, and if you study,
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you know transcendence andlevels of calibration, right.
Like you need that energy for awhile.
You need some anger, right.
You need some reason, you needsome things that are actually
going to force you to step intothat next level of you.
But you also can't get heldthere, and I think that as
entrepreneurs, sometimes we canget held there.
Because we know what worked andgot us to here and because we
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don't know what's going to getus to that next level, we start
to stay and think well, what gotme here is going to get me
there.
And it's never going to,because it's a transition of you
, it's a transcendence of you.
You have to become a newversion of you.
Right, at every level there's anew level, there's a new demon,
there's a new, there's a newbattle, right.
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And so you have to make surethat you are at the highest
level that you can be at forperformance and the way you show
up and take care of yourself.
Right, all of these thingsmatter as you grow, because it's
incremental.
Right, in the beginning, wetake exponential leaps.
Right, the growth is evenlinear.
At times.
You got a quantum leap here anda quantum leap there, but once
you get to, you know, higherlevels, it's not as drastic
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change, as much as it'sincremental.
It's these little things, it'sthe habits, it's the patterns,
right.
It's the attachments, it's thefear, it's the, it's all of
those.
You know the perspective thatwe have, right, minor shifts in
that is what's going to changeour trajectory.
And so for me, as I go throughthat and really experience this,
the medicine and going downthere and being able to come
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back.
It's like there has been somany opportunities since that
day that I've just had theability to help people and
support people more, and it'sallowed just things to slow down
.
It's allowed me to realize thatrevenue is important, but so
are people, right.
Business is important, but sois values and beliefs, right.
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Those are the things thatconnect us, and so, if I can
share anything or give you atakeaway, as you're listening to
this is thinking you know,where in your life do you need
to be more present?
Right?
Where in your life are you sohyper focused on an achievement
that you're missing out onopportunities to connect to
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people?
Right?
What patterns in your life areyou consistently seeing that are
happening again and again,right?
Is it relationships?
Do you keep ending up with thesame type of individual?
Right?
And we're looking at them forthe answers rather than looking
at ourself.
Is there something in thebusiness that keeps happening
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and happening?
Right, we have to be able todetach ourselves, disconnect
ourselves from the day to day,you know, and have just brief
reflections, right?
Brief moments of alone, and Ithink that it's you know Marcus
Aurelius talks about.
He says that you know, man willgo through, you know, go to the
depths of the earth to discoverhis purpose and discover
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himself when it's all, when itall lies within him the whole
time.
Right, we're always seekingwhat's out there.
The next thing we need this.
What if we had that?
What would our life look likeif we were here?
Right?
So we're always looking, buteverything is a reflection of
ourselves.
And so, as you seek in and lookexternally, spend that time to
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look internally, spend that timeto really reflect and say you
know, where are these things?
Where can I change?
How can I be better?
And understanding that none ofthis happens overnight, right,
none of this is going to be aflip of a switch.
And you change, right, nodifferent than how you got to
where you're at today.
You've had to work, you've hadto try, you've had to show up,
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you've had to fail.
Becoming the next version of youis the same thing, right.
And as we transcend to that,I'll leave you with this right,
start to think about what doesthat next version of you look
like?
Right, erase the patterns thatyou have right now of you look
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like Erase the patterns that youhave right now, the areas that
you can be better at.
Just don't even think aboutthem and just think about truly.
What does that next version ofyou look like?
How do they move?
How do they think?
Who are they around?
What are their habits?
What are the things thatthey're doing to become that
individual?
Because the thing is that youalready possess everything you
need to become that individual.
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You just have to slow down andsee the path.
You have to start to seek theanswers in order to achieve that
next level.
So, as I wrap it up here, thinkabout this when can you be more
present?
What are the patterns or habitsthat need to start to shift?
What does the next version ofyou look like?
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What is that 80% that needs tobe shed to be able to be renewed
, to be able to grow yourselfand grow the people around you,
and then lock in on that andunderstand that it's going to
take time.
We overestimate what can beachieved in one year and we
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underestimate what can beachieved in 10.
Give yourself time to developand grow.
Yeah, we want to get there fast, but for me, any time I ever
got somewhere fast, I ended uphaving to take three steps back
because I got there too fast.
I didn't learn, I just gotthere.
I showed up having to takethree steps back because I got
there too fast, I didn't learn,I just got there, I showed up.
And then I had to figure it out, start to map these things out
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week by week, month by month,year by year.
What does that end goal looklike?
And look at it from a macroperspective.
So often we get into the microsof the incremental day to days
and it's like, oh, I want toachieve this, I want to achieve
this and I want to achieve this.
And it's like, okay, you canprobably achieve all of those
things by setting this one thing, becoming that one version of
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you right, setting that fieldgoal post out there at 10 years,
at 15 years, at 20 years, whatdo you want it to look like?
Achieving this, you know,achieving the biggest, greatest
version of you in the life thatyou want to live.
Now work yourself backwardsfrom there, reckless CEO out.
Right, you're like that buzzer ain't rang, that
game ain't over with, so keepgoing.
I have thrived in that chaos.
How could this be happening?
Did any of you guys payattention to anything I said?
Like get arrested, guess, untilthey get the message.
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Welcome back to the recklessceo podcast, where we keep it
real raw and reckless aboutbusiness and life.
They ain't really gotten thesauce and I ain't got.
You know what I mean it's like.
Here is your host, the recklessceo himself, michael mcgovern.
Welcome back to the recklessCEO podcast.
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It's been a minute since I haverecorded a solo podcast.
I'm excited to come in todayand share with you just some
recent discoveries, recentjourneys that I have personally
gone on.
So I'll give you a high leveloverview of what we're going to
be covering today and kind ofhow I ended up there, right?
So what I want to be talkingabout today is a couple weeks
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ago, I ended up going down toFlorida.
A buddy of mine owns my selfwellness facility down there.
It is a ketamine therapytreatment center Incredible
place, incredible experience.
It was a life-changingexperience.
I'm excited to share about that.
But before I get into that, Ithink one of the biggest things
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to me.
That I really took away from itwas just the synchronicities.
There's so many areas in ourlife that we glide through, we
get into tunnel vision.
We're moving and we're notseeing the opportunities or the
areas in our life that hasalignment, whether that's
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alignment as far as your goalsand what you're achieving
towards or the relationshipsthat are in your life.
A lot of times, when we'removing at a fast speed
especially if you're anentrepreneur or you're a
salesperson or you're startingout you're getting into this
kind of self-development.
You know there's so much focusaround the knowledge that you're
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consuming, the relationshipsthat you have around you.
You know there's so many thingsthat has to be constantly
changing as you evolve andchange.
And I think that if we don'tslow down to really see these
areas and reflect on those areas, that we can miss a lot of
really good things that arehappening in life.
And I personally know exactlywhat that's like because you
know I have been on this missionfor the past six years of just,
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you know, running as fast as Ican, building as fast as we can,
growing everything that we can.
And you know, in the midst ofall of that I look back and you
know I've lost relationships andfriendships and people that
were close to me, and maybe evenopportunities to serve people
and help people and be a betterindividual, because I was locked
in on this, this, you know,goal and this vision that I'm
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chasing.
But at the same time, we haveto be able to find that balance
between, you know, the goalsthat we're driving towards and
then today, right, being presentin the day, being present in
reality.
A lot of times we're trying toescape the reality, escape the
matrix, but there's a lot ofopportunities in our daily, in a
day to day, that we have to beof impact to people, you know,
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share love and connection andand just really, you know allow
our energy and what we possessas individuals to resonate to
all of those around us.
And so, as I get into this, afriend of mine, his name's
Charles he had a crazy, crazyconnection the way that him and
I had met.
So I was actually down at aroofing conference last year.
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I was speaking at theconference and in the back room
we had the VIP section for thespeakers and things like that.
And so Charles he's not in theroofing space, really had no
reason of being there other thanhe had seen something online.
A friend of his was kind oflike emceeing it.
And so his friends say, come onby, charles comes through.
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And he says, hey, come on backto the back room, get some lunch
, you know, hang out with someof the speakers, things like
that.
And so out of this room of 50people, I end up at this table
and Charles happens to besitting at the table.
And this was, this was one ofthose moments, right, and we
talk about the synchronicity,right, the things that.
And when I say synchronicityit's, you know, a lot of times
we are seeking things right andthe universe is going to put
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those things in front of us,whether it's through another
individual, whether it's through, you know, an opportunity or a
connection, but we have to bepaying attention and looking
right.
And so for Charles, you know,his side of the story is that,
you know, he had kind ofactually had an issue with some
of his previous businesspartners and he said, dude, I
was praying before I, you know,went into this event that like,
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hey, you know, let me, let meconnect with some people there.
So next thing, you know, him andI are sitting at this table,
again, 50 people or so in thereand we just started having these
conversations around.
You know psychedelics andalignment and enlightenment and
like all of these things, right.
And when you're talking aboutroofing, right, not that
everybody is against it or notfor it, but you know it's not
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necessarily a enlightenment,isn't something that you sit
around and talk to a bunch ofcontractors about all the time,
right.
And so the fact that we gotinto this conversation was very,
very interesting, right.
And so you know, time goes on.
Him and I connected that day.
It really got me excited forthe conversation we had, but I
also didn't think that I was atthe position where I wanted to
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kind of jump in and go do allthat yet, right.
And so come back to season.
We're working, everything'smoving.
Again, he happened to be uphere for the Arnold Classic here
in Columbus and came in Him andI shot a podcast he started to
share with me again, talkingabout his facility and how bad
he'd love for me to come down.
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And again, I'm kind of wantingto do it, but it never feels
like the right time to reallytake care of yourself, and so I
kind of pushed it off, butknowing that I needed to At this
point.
Even before I went, know,growing the business, I've
continued to kind of scale thebusiness, you know, slowly pull
myself out of the business aswell, delegate, elevate, you
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know, put people in positions,write people on the bus, people
off the bus, right.
There's all of these thingsthat are moving and happening as
I'm building the business.
But in the midst of all of that, right, it's like if I look
back and said, man, you know,three years ago, four years ago,
I couldn't imagine being wherewe are, you know, and although I
was, I've had a goal in seekingsomething, you know.
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At the same time, you know, youkind of look back and say, like
, how did we get here Right?
And then, as you look at howdid we get here, you look at
thinking you know, how did I gethere Right?
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And I found myself, don't wantto say spiraling right, but I
found myself in this pattern of,you know, constantly having to
be stimulated and moving andjust, you know, never being able
to slow down enough, neverbeing able to be intentional.
I feel like my focus has beenlacking, you know it.
Just, you're spread thin, right,I think, as entrepreneurs.
You know, we there there'ssomething to be said about guys
that can grid it out and getthrough the hard shit and build
the stuff right.
And, you know, put your team onyour back and do everything
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that it takes to become theindividual that people want to
be around.
But I think becoming thatindividual can be scary as well
and it can be lonely as well.
Right, because not everybody'sgoing to understand the drive
that you have or the why youhave that drive.
Not everybody is going to bethere when you know you might
have a team of 30 people, butthat doesn't mean that you know,
when payroll comes around, thateverybody's chipping in to make
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sure things are taken care of.
Right, there's a lot of thingsthat you have to internally
internalize, right, or battlebecause you can't.
Necessarily, because, as theleader, you are the ceiling.
As the leader, you are thefront runner.
That means that you're going in, you're testing environments,
you're making sure it's safe,you're expanding into new
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horizons and ideas and tryingthis.
And as you're going and doingall these things, you've got
people that are watching you,listening to you, growing with
you.
Right, and one of the keys tobeing a great leader is being
consistent, right?
I always say that people willfind consistency, people will
find comfortability in yourconsistency, and so, as a leader
, the more that you are up anddown and up and down this roller
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coaster, the less you're goingto have a community or a culture
of people get around you,because they never know what
your emotions are going to beRight.
So, even when things are bad,you can't really discuss how bad
they might be at times.
And so it's like we have theseexperiences and these traumas
and we just bottle them up andwe shelf it and we keep going
and we bottom up, we shelf, wekeep, because we know that
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sharing that could one.
Maybe it distracts the team,maybe it puts fear in the team,
and you can't afford to havethat happen.
And so we get into this patternof running and sprinting and
moving as fast as we can, whichis great because you're
achieving and you're growing,but you're also numbing, right,
you're numbing yourself, you'rejust going through the motions,
and I think that it's veryimportant to you know, stay
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aware of those emotions, stayaware of thinking and knowing
when you are numbing, when youaren't being present, when you
aren't in.
You know your unique abilityand doing the things that you
need to be doing.
And so for me, I felt like Ihad been going through that
phase.
The universe again, I think itspeaks to you, or God will speak
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to you, and he tells you, hey,you might have a thought that
tells you go try this thing, godo this thing.
Well, everything had kind ofaligned for me to go take this
trip.
I had recently promoted one ofour sales reps and a guy that's
been in the business with me fora few years promoted him to the
COO, made that move.
Well, that move in itself isalso kind of a scary move, right
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?
It's like I heard them talkabout something the other day
that said you know, asentrepreneurs or the founder of
a company, you know, a lot oftimes people say you know that
you're scared to give up control, and I don't really know that
it's actually a control thing.
I think there's a bigdifference between trust and
control, because I know that forme personally it's rarely a
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control thing.
I would love to be able to giveit up.
I love to be able to delegateand bring somebody up and
empower them to, you know, stepinto that next version of
themselves.
That's an exciting thing.
That's an awesome thing as afounder, but it's the trust that
gets you right.
I they said that you know, uh,building a company is kind of
like a a flower vase, right,you're you're sculpting it,
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you're you're building it andyou finally got it done, right,
and you're, you know, you handit off to somebody to to start
to delegate some things, andthen they drop it and it breaks
to pieces, right, so you'repicking it back up and as you're
picking it back up, you'regetting a scar here and you're
getting a scar there.
So all of a sudden, it's neverreally a control thing, as much
of it to trust thing You'rewalking around with this baby
that you've built and you'vegrown, but you've got all these
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scars from trusting the wrongpeople and delegating to the
wrong people.
And so you know, even for me,as I'm, you know, promoting to
Nate, to our COO, there's fearin that.
And it's not fear of I don'tthink that he can handle it,
it's fear of is this the rightperson?
What if it's not?
Everything in me says it is,but what if it's not?
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What if it goes the differentdirection?
What if I lose control of thepeople?
What if people start to look athim as a leader and look at me
as not one.
Right, it's all of thesethoughts that you start to go
through.
And so, for me, I know that thenext level of our business is me
getting out of the weeds, megetting above the business on
the business, buildingrelationships and connections.
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In the next level, right For us, our goal is to really lean
into acquisitions, acquiringother roofing companies.
That's going to require me tobecome an individual that I
haven't been yet.
On top of that, it's also goingand getting money from private
investors and scaling acorporation out, and so there's
all of these things, and I can'tdo that if I'm where I was at
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in the business.
And so I say all that becausethis is the preface of why I
wanted to go down there, becauseI knew that, you know, for me,
every time it's time to level up, every time it's time for me to
expand into that, that nextlevel of me, I have to have some
form of a pattern, interruptSomething that shifts me,
something that shifts myconsciousness, something that
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shifts my momentum, right, or myjust the way that my view
things, and the patterns that I,that I'm doing over and over
again, right.
And so, you know, I hit upCharles, I said man, I'm ready
to come down.
And so, for me, I don't reallywatch much news.
I try to stay away fromanything that doesn't really
involve me directly.
I like to be aware, but I don'tlike to get too deep into it.
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Right?
And so the morning of I get atext and there's and everyone's
saying are you going down?
You know there's a hurricanethat's coming through the area
that you're going to.
You should cancel, youshouldn't go, all of these
things.
Now, for me, you know, when Icommit to something, when I jump
into something, I'm usuallygoing to stick with that thing
and see it through.
I'm going to move forward withit.
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And there's also a part of me,too, where it's like, when you
get into kind of thinking, youknow universal law and all of
these things, where you knowmaybe there's a reason why you
know the hurricane was hittingthat, hitting in that area, and
everyone's telling me not to go.
And maybe they're saying youknow, don't go.
I know there's a, there's a,there's a devil's side of it.
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Maybe that's an exponentialgrowth, maybe that's a human
being that the wrong peopleshould be scared of, right.
And so for me, it's like Icould find a way to kind of feel
empowered to actually want togo through with it, even though
the storms and things are coming.
And so I get down there.
I get off the plane and I'mwalking out of the airport and I
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hear someone yell Govsy.
And I turn around and it was afriend of mine, tim Bayless, who
I played junior hockey withback in Boston back in the day,
and I hadn't seen Tim in 15years, right and again in the
moment before I got down thereand started taking the medicine
and trying things out.
Even that connection, it wasvery service level.
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Hey man, good to see you again,what are you doing?
I got down there and got andstarted taking the medicine and
trying things out.
You know, I even thatconnection, it was very service
level.
Hey man, good to see you again.
What are you doing down here?
Awesome, talk to you later.
I got stuff to do and head itout, right.
So I get there and the stormsare coming in Now we go in and
we do the, I do the, I do thetreatment on Monday.
And you know the way that theydo, they kind of dose it out.
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So you try your first dose,then your second one and they
can usually expand it out overtwo weeks.
You'll go back and forth, maybesix times is what they like to
do, just because they want tobuild you up to that.
The capacity to make sure thatyou know you can really like't
something.
That is for the faint of heart.
This isn't something that youjust go in and it's easy peasy
and you get through it.
Like it is exhausting, it wearsyou out, right.
When you, when you get sodisassociated by the medicine
and then you come back toreality, I mean there's a lot of
things that just don't feelright, right.
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And so first day I go in, gothrough it and I said that you
know, my experience with that isthat I kind of I didn't go into
this.
You know crazy visuals andthings like that, but it almost
felt like this, like rollingclouds of stars and lava, right,
this black, like an atmospherickind of visual, right, and it
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was like the levels that I wouldcontinue to go through as it.
You know, in any kind ofexperience like that, you've got
your beginning, you've got yourmiddle and you've got your end
and right.
And so in the beginning youkind of like jump into this
thing and then you're goingthrough it and you're working
through it.
And for those of you have nevertried that medicine, you know it
is a disassociate.
So what happens is that itdisconnects you from mind to
body, right, or even right lane,right brain to left, brain,
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right, all of the things thattell you you're insignificant,
you're not good enough, you'reinsecure, your fear of
rejections, all of those thingsyou know, those voices become
separated in those moments.
And so, as you're going throughthis, you feel that you know no
one's there, like, is everybodygone?
Am I the only thing?
I'm like this little ball ofenergy just floating through the
ecosystem on a recliner, likeit was the craziest thing.
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You can't even move, rightYou're, you're legitimately like
, all your, all you are is in it.
And then you come out of itRight and you know.
So that was day one.
Day two very similar to thesame thing, um, you know.
Day three I Two, very similarto the same thing.
Now, day three.
I was supposed to do it and thestorms come, the hurricane comes
in and my buddy that owns theplace says Mike, you can come
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crash with us for a couple days.
And so I go over and not acouple days, come, crash with us
for the night, right, and thengo back to your Airbnb the
following day.
So I go over, stay with him andthen on Thursday the storm
comes through, you know, reallydoes, does some damage in the
area, a lot of power out, thingslike that.
Thursday I go back to my Airbnband Airbnb is flooded and
there's no power and at thispoint also, there's nowhere to
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really get hotels.
There's no really Airbnbs leftover.
So I'm kind of, you know, upthe creek without a paddle, I
don't really have a place to go.
Now, my buddy that owns theplace, you know I could stay
there for a couple days but he'sgot, you know, a family and you
know he's got kids and dogs andyou know it just wasn't
something I wanted to really,you know, be a hassle to him on.
And so I reached out to myfriend, tim right, and I said
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hey, man, you know, can up,going down and Tim's house
sitting on a place that's got apool and it's a gated community
and just a beautiful place, likeeverything that I wanted to
experience from this trip right,like when I was going down
there, I was excited because I'mlike I got a spot I'm going to
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be able to kind of detach.
I'm going to go through thisexperience.
I'm going to be able to spendsome time by the water and all
of this stuff.
Well, monday, tuesday,wednesday none of that was able
to happen, and even the placethat I was at, because of the
surges and the flooding, wasn'table to go back to there, and so
now everything that I thoughtthis experience was going to be
really ended up becomingcompletely different.
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But that's actually kind of thebeauty in it, right, because I
didn't have this attachment orexpectation to you know how I
thought it should be or what itwas going to be like, and you
know all of these things.
It's like, through the medicine, it actually helped me to
become more detached, right.
It helped me to be a littlemore nimble, a little more
flexible, a little moreadaptable, rather than I almost
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felt like I was kind of a nomadfor a few days, where I'm just
bouncing around on couches andliving out of a suitcase and all
of these things.
And it was a beautifulexperience.
And you know, as we get intothat Thursday, I go down there
and I'm seeing Tim and hangingout.
You know he's working, and so Igot to spend a whole day by the
pool after two days of themedicine, you know, and I just
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sat there and just felt sograteful, right, so connected,
um, energy was in alignment.
You know, I, I, I look back andsay, man, four years ago, you
know, four years ago, I couldhave never went away from the
business for, you know, twoweeks without, uh, you know,
opening an email or callingpeople or going through it.
So it's like just that, enoughjust becoming disconnected,
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enough that I'm sitting thereand just grateful for all of
this, like just overwhelmingemotions.
Right, I said I legitimatelyhad a tear in my eye as I sat
there by the pool and just waslike, how, how do we get here?
How did I get here?
Right, so immediately.
It's like one of those thingsof like, I need to find ways to
create this space more often,right.
And so Friday comes, I go upfor my last one and I tell
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Charles hey, man, listen, thisis my last day.
Give me the, give me the Godnews.
I've heard a lot of cool thingsabout a lot of experience about
it.
Like, I, I believe that I havethe capacity to go full tilt on
this thing.
So like, let's do that.
And so I go in and I start offthere.
They do that your first roundof it and it's very similar to
the second there, to the firsttwo, and then they come back in
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midway through it and you'restill in your, you're still in
your experience.
They come in and they theyjuicy again.
And the second that happened, Isaid I it felt like I was
literally shot out of a cannon.
Happen, I said it felt like Iwas literally shot out of a
cannon, like I.
I've never been a big DragonBall Z guy, but if you watch the
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shows where, like, theexplosions of, like white light
just expands around them, theyget this full power, like that's
exactly what it felt like,right, and I just had this, this
overwhelmed like all.
At one time it hit me as I'mgoing through this.
It was like an hysteric laughand crying and screaming and
just like you couldn't controlanything that was coming at you.
But it really felt like this,like this ego death, right.
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And for me I would say that youknow, as I've leading up to this
over the past few months, maybethe last six months or so, you
know even my connection with youknow my faith is, is it
struggled?
And religion, and just, youknow all of these things.
I feel like that, as we growand expand as individuals, you
know there's a lot of thingsthat we've been told our whole
lives, that we start to maybesee some holes in, or we start
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to maybe change our perspective.
And it's such a fine line tobattle because that means that
if you're changing yourperspective at 30 years old,
then does that mean that for thelast 30 years, everything that
you believed is a just me, am Igoing crazy?
Right, and so, but going throughthis experience and really, you
know, kind of having that egodeath and feeling that you know
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how really everybody isconnected, right, we're all,
we're all connected by thisuniversal consciousness, right,
that that that is just abundantthrough everybody, right, and,
and and so much of it is theenergy that we have in every day
.
And how are we showing up andwhere are we calibrating and
what are we consuming?
Right, because we're all goodat things, right, but I think
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that every one of us has thatnatural ability to be that
energy source, to have that aura, to be able to walk into a room
and people see you, they knowyou and even if they don't know
you, they, they, they can feelyour presence.
Right.
We all have that power, but forso many of us, we don't tap
into it, we don't believe thatwe, we actually possess it right
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.
And if you, and if you are aperson that is, you know,
believes in God and has thisfaith right, then then you
should understand that you weredesigned and made in his like,
right in his image.
Therefore, you can create,Therefore you can manifest,
therefore you can empower and bethat that same energy that God
breathes life into us, like youcould be breathing that into
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other people.
And that was one of the biggestthings for me of just really
being able to look back andbeing grateful for everything up
to this point, and then reallybeing able to look back and
being grateful for everything upto this point, and then really
being able to see, like man, youknow, I have allowed myself to
be focused on the wrong things,distracted by the wrong things,
right, like since that day I'veeven, you know, removed social
media from my phone, and youknow all of these things,
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because I'm realizing that it'sall of these little incremental
distractions that we come acrossevery day that keeps us from
connecting with those peoplethat we get to experience in our
lives every day.
Even as a business owner,sometimes I'll get in the point
where I'm like a recluse andI'll be in the back office and
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I'm just working and pushing anddoing and for for me that
anytime things get difficult oror I face struggles in the
business, I always tend toovercompensate with more work.
I work harder, right.
That's my for me.
I've always held so much of mybelief system or my um, you know
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the values that I have.
I've always kind of looked atthat through this work ethic
thing where, like, I can outworkeverybody, I can work hard, I
can show it.
I got a chip on my shoulder,you know.
You kind of run off this badenergy, but that bad energy
isn't going to get you to thenext level, right.
That bad energy might inspireyou, right, and if you study,
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you know transcendence andlevels of calibration, right.
Like you need that energy for awhile.
You need some anger, right.
You need some reason, you needsome things that are actually
going to force you to step intothat next level of you.
But you also can't get heldthere, and I think that as
entrepreneurs, sometimes we canget held there.
Because we know what worked andgot us to here and because we
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don't know what's going to getus to that next level, we start
to stay and think well, what gotme here is going to get me
there.
And it's never going to,because it's a transition of you
, it's a transcendence of you.
You have to become a newversion of you.
Right, at every level there's anew level, there's a new demon,
there's a new, there's a newbattle, right.
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And so you have to make surethat you are at the highest
level that you can be at forperformance and the way you show
up and take care of yourself.
Right, all of these thingsmatter as you grow, because it's
incremental.
Right, in the beginning, wetake exponential leaps.
Right, the growth is evenlinear.
At times.
You got a quantum leap here anda quantum leap there, but once
you get to, you know, higherlevels, it's not as drastic
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change, as much as it'sincremental.
It's these little things, it'sthe habits, it's the patterns,
right.
It's the attachments, it's thefear, it's the, it's all of
those.
You know the perspective thatwe have, right, minor shifts in
that is what's going to changeour trajectory.
And so for me, as I go throughthat and really experience this,
the medicine and going downthere and being able to come
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back.
It's like there has been somany opportunities since that
day that I've just had theability to help people and
support people more, and it'sallowed just things to slow down
.
It's allowed me to realize thatrevenue is important, but so
are people, right.
Business is important, but sois values and beliefs, right.
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Those are the things thatconnect us, and so, if I can
share anything or give you atakeaway, as you're listening to
this is thinking you know,where in your life do you need
to be more present?
Right?
Where in your life are you sohyper focused on an achievement
that you're missing out onopportunities to connect to
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people?
Right?
What patterns in your life areyou consistently seeing that are
happening again and again,right?
Is it relationships?
Do you keep ending up with thesame type of individual?
Right?
And we're looking at them forthe answers rather than looking
at ourself.
Is there something in thebusiness that keeps happening
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and happening?
Right, we have to be able todetach ourselves, disconnect
ourselves from the day to day,you know, and have just brief
reflections, right?
Brief moments of alone, and Ithink that it's you know Marcus
Aurelius talks about.
He says that you know, man willgo through, you know, go to the
depths of the earth to discoverhis purpose and discover
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himself when it's all, when itall lies within him the whole
time.
Right, we're always seekingwhat's out there.
The next thing we need this.
What if we had that?
What would our life look likeif we were here?
Right?
So we're always looking, buteverything is a reflection of
ourselves.
And so, as you seek in and lookexternally, spend that time to
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look internally, spend that timeto really reflect and say you
know, where are these things?
Where can I change?
How can I be better?
And understanding that none ofthis happens overnight, right,
none of this is going to be aflip of a switch.
And you change, right, nodifferent than how you got to
where you're at today.
You've had to work, you've hadto try, you've had to show up,
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you've had to fail.
Becoming the next version of youis the same thing, right.
And as we transcend to that,I'll leave you with this right,
start to think about what doesthat next version of you look
like?
Right, erase the patterns thatyou have right now of you look
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like Erase the patterns that youhave right now, the areas that
you can be better at.
Just don't even think aboutthem and just think about truly.
What does that next version ofyou look like?
How do they move?
How do they think?
Who are they around?
What are their habits?
What are the things thatthey're doing to become that
individual?
Because the thing is that youalready possess everything you
need to become that individual.
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You just have to slow down andsee the path.
You have to start to seek theanswers in order to achieve that
next level.
So, as I wrap it up here, thinkabout this when can you be more
present?
What are the patterns or habitsthat need to start to shift?
What does the next version ofyou look like?
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What is that 80% that needs tobe shed to be able to be renewed
, to be able to grow yourselfand grow the people around you,
and then lock in on that andunderstand that it's going to
take time.
We overestimate what can beachieved in one year and we
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underestimate what can beachieved in 10.
Give yourself time to developand grow.
Yeah, we want to get there fast, but for me, any time I ever
got somewhere fast, I ended uphaving to take three steps back
because I got there too fast.
I didn't learn, I just gotthere.
I showed up having to takethree steps back because I got
there too fast, I didn't learn,I just got there, I showed up.
And then I had to figure it out, start to map these things out
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week by week, month by month,year by year.
What does that end goal looklike?
And look at it from a macroperspective.
So often we get into the microsof the incremental day to days
and it's like, oh, I want toachieve this, I want to achieve
this and I want to achieve this.
And it's like, okay, you canprobably achieve all of those
things by setting this one thing, becoming that one version of
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you right, setting that fieldgoal post out there at 10 years,
at 15 years, at 20 years, whatdo you want it to look like?
Achieving this, you know,achieving the biggest, greatest
version of you in the life thatyou want to live.
Now work yourself backwardsfrom there, reckless CEO out.
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