March 8, 2024 • 80 mins
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Embalmers are no strangers to death, but even a seasoned professional like Richard Hirschman couldn't ignore the unsettling patterns he stumbled upon: abnormal blood clots in the deceased. On our latest episode, Richard, a funeral home director and embalmer, joins us for a candid conversation about these mysterious clots that began appearing in early 2021. His observations, initially shared through now-censored viral videos, present a puzzle that challenges the norms of postmortem care and ignites a necessary dialogue on medical phenomena largely shrouded in silence.
When Richard began documenting these peculiar clots, the embalming industry was forced to confront a new reality. His meticulous records, coupled with analyses by pathologists and scientists, unveiled clots with startling deficiencies in iron, prompting a heated debate on their formation.
The silence surrounding the potential side effects of COVID-19 vax-ines has been deafening, and as Richard reflects on this topic, the conversation turns to the broader implications for public health discourse. We tackle the censorship that has smothered open conversations about vaccine narratives and consider the personal risks faced by those who dare to voice their concerns. Throughout this eye-opening discussion, Richard's commitment to the truth serves as a reminder of the courage required to challenge authority in an era where credibility is king and backlash is but a word away.
Links & Resources:
- Richard Hirschman on "X" - @r_hirschman
- "Died Suddenly" Documentary Trailer (ft. Richard Hirschman)
- Clot Images
- Clot Removal (The Feb. 18th post)
- Interesting and helpful article about a Spike Protein Detox those with vax regrets can do.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, thanks for tuning into the Redacted Podcast
.
I'm your host, my name is MattBender and we're gonna be doing
something a little differentwith the show now.
For one, we just got some audioequipment and some new gear
that we're gonna be able to doremote and phone interviews.
So this episode we did it allover the phone just for
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geographic reasons, and it's anabsolutely fantastic guest.
The other thing that we'redoing different this episode is
the guest will not be anonymous.
So we're gonna be interviewingRichard Hirschman and he is a
funeral home director,professional and balmer, and
(00:45):
he's got some great informationto give.
We're not pretending to bescientists or doctors or
anything like that.
So as you listen to thisepisode and it's a little
graphic, so I'll give thatwarning.
But as you listen to thisepisode and you'll hear him
(01:07):
himself say that he's not adoctor, he doesn't know what's
going on.
But there's one thing that'sglaringly obvious is there's
something going on and somebodyneeds to figure it out.
Also, in the show notes forthis episode, we're going to be
(01:28):
inserting some links and maybesome pictures and video and, as
you'll hear him say later on,picture video.
That's worth a thousand words.
So enjoy and thanks for tuningin.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
MUSIC Hello Matt.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Hey Richard, thanks for taking my call and talking
with us today here on the show.
Yes, sir, not a problem.
Yes, so I guess what was reallyinteresting about you and we
kind of heard about you foundout about you.
You had some videos on Twitterand you are an embalmer, correct
(02:47):
?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Penal director and embalmer correct.
Okay, and you had a coupleviral videos going around
showing you know, these massive,strange, crazy blood clots that
you were pulling out of peopleduring the embalming process.
Is that that's what?
(03:09):
That was right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's correct.
That is 100% correct.
That's the reason why I've beensharing this is because this is
abnormal and that last viralvideo that went out, which, of
course, has been censored now.
Yeah, I noticed that.
(03:32):
Yeah, it's amazing how it endedup with them.
I couldn't believe it 20million views in like two days,
oh geez.
And then they shut it down.
I don't remember exactly whatit was at, but it's hardly
gotten to any traction sincethen, and I've gotten reports
(03:52):
from people that don't have aTwitter account and I send them
a link and they get this messagesaying this page does not exist
or no longer exists.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, I couldn't find it anymore as of about a week
ago.
It just vanished, man.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh, it's still there on my account.
From what I understand, you'vegot to literally have a Twitter
account now to see it, but ifyou're looking, some people
posted it on Facebook and theseother areas, the link to it, and
now Facebook and these othersites are saying that it no
(04:30):
longer exists.
And I don't know if that'sFacebook doing it or Twitter
doing it, but somebody's doingit, somebody's preventing people
from seeing it.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's the world we live in, this manicured
information that everyone gets.
We actually just lost ourYouTube channel for no reason
and it seemed to be like anautomated deletion of our page,
like some kind of a softwareprogram or an algorithm
(05:06):
supposedly picked up that wewere spam and we put an appeal
in to have what's supposedly areal person look it over to
check it and yeah, they said ohyeah, our decision stands Like
you got to be kidding me andthey couldn't give me a reason
(05:28):
like misinformation or I mean,our page was pretty legit,
everything we had was prettymainstream or backed up, but
they don't want you to have avoice, they don't want you to
have a platform.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, it's a shame that this is happening, because
you can obviously still talkabout Bigfoot and Aliens and two
but carvers and all kinds ofstuff.
But anytime that you try toshare anything that is outside
of something that they don'twant people to see, they have a
(06:11):
way of making it go away ordisappearing.
But the reason why I postedthat video, Matt, was I had
received a number of commentsand other things trying to say
well, I won't believe it untilyou can show me a video of you
doing it.
And it's hard to make a videounless I've got an assistant or
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somebody in the involvement roomhelping me, and that particular
one I just so happened to havesomebody there and so we were
able to record that.
But I've had some other videosthat are out there that are real
.
But I have to show you knowwhen people hear the stories,
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and I'm sure your listeners andyourself have seen and heard of
so many reports of peoplesuffering with blood clots over
the last three years now.
Oh yeah, and you know, as anembalmer, when I'm embalming the
body, I'm looking at the blood.
(07:20):
I mean I've been looking atblood for 23 years now.
I mean I've been embalmingsince 2001.
Okay, and the what peoplearen't understanding when they
sit there and they hear thesereports and then I see what I
see?
These clots are different.
They're not the same bloodclots that we would be familiar
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with.
Now, a lot of the blood clotswe embalmers probably were
seeing are considered postmortemclots or deep vein thrombosis,
Things like that, which I lookedit up before I went public said
it affects maybe one in athousand people.
Well, that's still kind of rare, you know.
Yeah.
(08:05):
We're not familiar with bloodclots.
They're red.
Blood clots are like red jelly.
They're not.
They don't have this stringywhite fibers substance to it.
So there's something changed inearly 2021.
That's when I started seeingthese.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So to back up just a tad and maybe I don't have an
incredible understanding and thelisteners don't either.
So when you I mean you saidyou've been doing this 23 years
now, which is a heck of a longtime.
But when you embalm someone,can you kind of verbally walk me
(08:46):
through that process to, so wecan kind of understand what
you're doing?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Sure, embalming is something that we do that
prepares a deceased, a deadperson, for typically it's for a
public viewing at the funeralhome.
Once they're in the casket whena person dies, it's not always
a pretty picture, you know.
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A lot of times the body turnsto a kind of a bluish color.
Blood settles and you know sothe color is all off.
And when we do the embalmingwe're basically injecting into
the arterial system an artery, alarge artery.
We typically will use thecarotid artery or maybe the
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iliac or femoral artery down inthe groin area and slash leg,
and sometimes we'll even useaxillary or brachial arteries.
Those arteries will help, youknow, send fluid down into the
arm.
But the basic process is raisethe artery which is a larger one
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those are the six points thatwe typically will inject from
and then we also raise the largevein that rides right along
next to that artery.
When we're pumping the fluidinto the artery it builds up
pressure.
You open the vein and thatallows the blood to come out.
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And what that does is it pushesthe fluid, the preservative,
the chemicals which you know haspreservatives and agents in
there, to kind of help sanitizeand slows down the decomposition
process.
But it also restores the colorof the body, so they're no
longer that bluish color.
It returns the color to thefingertips, typically the lips.
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It makes the person look alittle more natural.
So that's the process.
It's almost like flushing yourradiator in your car or bleeding
the brakes, so to speak,putting fresh fluid in and
bleeding out all the old stuff,and that's basically what I
envision, yeah, and but thatthat makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So you're, you're pushing pretty much all of the
blood out of the body.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah Well, I can't say 100%, it's all, but it is
the majority of it.
We usually use roughly and itdepends and it varies.
Each case varies a little bit,but usually it takes about three
to three and a half gallons offluid to to flush out the
majority of the body.
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Sometimes we have to use moreand, of course, smaller bodies.
Sometimes we don't need thatmuch, but the average person is
going to be.
We start off with about a tankof about three to three and a
half gallons of fluid.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, and how long does that take usually?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, you know, each embalmer is a little different.
For me it's, you know, it's.
It's usually about an hour.
Hour and a half is probably wastypical.
Unfortunately, now it'ssometimes it's a little longer.
So sometimes it's been takingme two, two and a half hours
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Depends on the case, depends onhow bad the clots are and how
much the fluid moves around andif I have to make additional
incisions to to inject differentparts of the body because of
issues with the fluid movingthrough that area.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So okay, I mean, I guess that makes a lot of sense
because that's what clots dowithin the body, yeah, and that
plugs it up.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It does and, and we will know it, I typically like
to embalm from the iliac region.
I also use the right commoncarotid, but my most of the time
, for the last 15 years, Iusually use the artery down
there in the groin by the legand when we're pushing that
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fluid in, we're, we're, we're, I, I, I do.
You know, I'm washing the bodyand massaging the body and I'm
looking at the hands and I'mlooking at the face and I'm
looking at the other leg to seeis the color coming back into
the body, making it look morenatural?
And that's how I know thatthere's fluid going there.
(13:16):
And so let's just pretend for amoment I'm embalming,
everything is going fine, butfor whatever reason, the left
arm is still not getting anyfluid.
We can usually tell when thefluid is getting there, because
we'll see what it's calleddistention.
You know, like how you can lookat the veins in the back of
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your hand.
You can see the veins areslightly raised up.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And, and you know so, if we see those vessels are
raised up, then that's tellingme that I'm getting some kind of
pressure in there.
But if the, let's say, thefingertips are still blue,
they're not, they're not gettingpink again and that blue color
is not going away, that tells methe left arm is having a
(14:04):
problem.
And so, in order to make thatleft arm right, I would have to
go in there and try to raise theaxillary, which is in the
armpit, or the brachial, whichis, you know, by your, by your,
you know your, your, in betweenyour elbow and your armpit.
And then we try to injectstraight down that arm,
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targeting that one arm, in orderto kind of build up the
pressure on that one arm, inorder to force the blood flow
back towards the heart and tohelp clear up those fingertips
and and embalm that armspecifically.
And those are the additionalpoints that we sometimes do back
in the day prior to all of this.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Prior to COVID.
Prior to COVID.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, I'm not saying sometimes we would have issues
with drainage of some of thesome of the other vessels or
arms and or a leg and we have toraise that up.
But back back, before all ofthis, the majority of the bodies
we would embalm, we wouldconsider those to be a one point
, meaning I'd only have to pickup that one artery, that one
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vein, and I'd be able to embalmthe whole body from that one
point.
Unfortunately, with all theclotting issues we've had, I'm
having to make several multiplepoint injections because of the
clotting issues.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And is this something I mean if you're speaking with
other funeral home directors orembalmers?
Is this something a lot offolks are finding?
That's.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Absolutely no.
Yes, I know for a fact thatthat's happening and it's not
just by hearing them talkingabout it.
We sometimes like if somebodydies, I'm in Alabama, so let's
say somebody died in Texas.
Typically a funeral home inTexas will pick up the body and
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they'll prepare it and they'llsend the body here to Alabama.
And I had one of these casesthe other day where this VM
bomber, from wherever the bodycame, had obviously had been
having problems with clottingissues because it was they tried
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seven different points ofinjection as opposed to one.
So I know they're having issueswith pushing fluid through the
body.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So, without even talking to the person, you can
tell what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, I can see it.
I can also see that some, evenif they tried to do a one point
injection if it's shipped in Icould tell they were having
issues because different partsof the body would not be well
embalmed.
There's still the colors notright and there's issues.
Now that doesn't mean that thatembalmer did necessarily
(17:09):
anything wrong.
It just tells me that thosesections were not getting fluid
for some reason, and my guesswould be because of the clotting
issues.
They're not.
The clots are preventing thefluid from flowing into those
areas.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, and you're experiencing it too, so you can
see exactly what the problem is.
I mean, you know, from havingto work through this, you're
like, okay, yeah, they're havingthe same shit.
I am.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Right so without even talking to them.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I can almost tell Geez, that is terrible and I saw
some of the pictures of theseon.
You have pictures because youkeep some of them right.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, I started in September of 2021 taking
pictures of some of thesestrange clots.
I do not take pictures of allof them just off and on as a
kind of a record to show.
In the beginning it was just Ineeded evidence when I'm talking
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about, when I started speakingout about this, I needed to have
something to prove what it isI'm talking about.
I mean, you know what I'msaying.
I needed proof.
I needed something to back upwhat I'm saying.
And now and then, after I cameout publicly in about March of
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2022, I'm getting calls andbeing asked to send samples to
pathologists and scientists,because people aren't
necessarily wanting to talkabout it and they knew I was
seeing it.
So I started collecting some ofthese samples so they can try
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to analyze them and study themand try to figure out what's
going on, or at least that wasmy hope.
Every one of them say 100% thatthis ain't normal, something's
wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So whenever you send these samples off.
Is what you're saying?
Yeah, they come back to youwith results.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Not always.
Sometimes I get absolutelynothing back from them and
sometimes I do get contactedback from them, but most of them
are.
There's not a whole lot ofinformation as far as what
exactly it is.
Mike Adams did a Mike Adams didan ICPMS analysis, which is
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breaking it down into figuringout what the Now check it out,
figuring out what the chemicalor the heavy metal components
are there Basically it's almostlike your anatomical chart.
You know how much magnesium,potassium, those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, so it's basically analyzing the
ingredients of this thing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Right, yes, and here in the last handful of months I
don't want to be specific I'vebeen some other researchers
contacted me and wanted somesamples, and they wanted to
replicate the Mike Adamsanalysis.
So they sent these off to twoother labs that did the same
(20:39):
type of analysis and what theyfound is that Mike Adams
analysis stands true.
They found basically the samething.
Now, there might not be exactlythe same number every time,
because each one of thesesamples is from a different
person, yeah, yeah, but it'sshowing the alarming amounts of
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these different elements, thatkind of match that Now, what
they're working on doing istrying to figure out.
Ok, so now we've got thatinformation and we haven't
gotten or at least I'm from whatI've been told, we don't have
100% some of the next tests thatare being done, which is to try
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to break down and figure out.
All right, well, what kind ofproteins are these?
What is the protein make up?
Because that's going to be alittle bit different than the
ICPMS.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
OK, what did they find?
I mean, I know you're not aresearcher or a doctor or
anything like that, but justwhen Mike Adams did that, what
was basically found, or what wasthe explanation of what these
are made out of?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, the big thing that they found was that it
lacked in iron content, meaningthat this is not a blood clot at
all.
That's something other than ablood clot.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Because all blood has iron in it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
yeah, and that's why blood clots are red, because
it's full of iron.
It's red and typically that'swhat blood clots are.
Again, it's like grape jelly,it's just coagulated blood.
But these are not.
These are not that there's sometraces of iron in there,
because surely I'm assuming thatthere's some red blood cells
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still trapped into some of theseand in some of the samples and
the pictures that I have shared.
Sometimes you'll notice alittle bit of pink around there.
Sometimes you'll notice astreak of dark material, which
is blood that's been trappedalong the side of these things.
So there is some blood, butoverall it's not blood, it's
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some other kind of proteins andDr Ryan Kohl has looked at these
things and he says that they'refull of isana fills and
different things and amyloid.
You see, he calls itamyloid-like protein.
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It looks kind of like chickenfat or like a lure, I wouldn't
say chicken fat Like it looks.
Yeah, it does.
It does look like a worm,they're pale.
Yeah, yes, they're kind of awhitish rubbery substance like
calamari Really.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, that's a good description actually.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It is, and the next big debate that was going on for
a while whether these must bepostmortem clots, meaning they
happen after death.
They can't possibly beanti-mortem, which is while
somebody's still alive.
And in the beginning I evenargued with some of the doctors.
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Some of the doctors agreed withme saying that there's no way
that these could be postmortem,because there's too much
structure there, they're toostrong and these are some kind
of protein that must have beenaccumulating over time.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, and if they're fibrous that's not just going to
pop up.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Right and I believe that myself.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And again I've argued with some of the doctors.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That makes sense to me.
Yeah, yes.
Now I had a case earlier thisyear, in 2024, that I've had to
eat crow on that, that thesethings are also forming
postmortem as well, because Ihad a case where the body had
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these large tubes that weregoing into it and it was full of
blood and that blood hadseparated.
In these tubes the dark spotswere the red blood cells and
then this kind of yellowish goldstuff which I would assume
would be the serum of the bloodhad separated.
When I opened it up during theembalming process, the dark
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stuff came out as a typicalblood clot.
It was just like grape jelly.
It was almost like jello.
It had taken the shape of thetube.
Yeah, I tried to catch it andcatch some of it to see what's
going on there, and it wasliterally falling apart in my
hand, which is what a typicalblood clot would do.
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But when that yellowish colorstarted coming out, in that were
these strange fibrous lookingclots, and I know they had to
have formed in the tube becausewhere the tube entered the body,
the, there was they're calledcannulas where it goes into the
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and it was going into the vein.
I didn't know it at first but I, you know I do now, but that in
the end of the cannulas weresmall holes that allowed blood
to go in and out through thattube and those holes were way
too small for these clots thisclot that I got in order to pass
through.
So it had to have formed insideof that tube.
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But now, at the same time,there's a recent there was a
recent whistleblower on PhilipMcMillan's.
It was interviewed that worksin a cath lab and guess what?
The heat's been removing out ofliving people rubbery clots.
So I know for a fact and I hadalready had reports from funeral
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directors telling me that theirfamily member described very
similar clots removed from theirloved ones before they died.
So it had to have happenedbefore death as well.
So I think we were all inagreement that this is abnormal
and some of the doctors thatsaid this had to be postmortem
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are now saying you can't havepostmortem clots in living
people, so it must be happeningin anti-mortem.
But at the same time I waswrong by saying that these can't
be postmortem, because I hadthat case where I saw that it
had to have formed in that tube.
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Either way, matt, what we'rebelieving now, or what some of
the people that I'm researchingmy own thought again, I'm not a
doctor or scientist.
Why I think us morticians, usembalmers, we're noticing this
is because we notice the changein the blood.
We notice there's some abnormalclotting.
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Whatever this foreign proteinis that's floating around in the
blood must be in a solublestate.
It's a liquid.
Something happens.
We don't know what exactlycauses it, but something happens
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when these things start tocombine and stick together,
forming an actual clot.
And because when the body, whenthe deceased, dies and the
blood stops moving and some ofthese researchers thought early
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on that these were bothanti-mortem and postmortem they
thought that these things werecontinuing to form after death
and with that forming in thetube proved to me that they were
right.
It has to, and so I kind ofthink about it as like an
activation or something.
Yeah right, like in a cementtruck.
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A cement truck.
As long as that cement truck isturning, you're fine.
But once that cement starts tostop moving, it's a matter of
time when it becomes a solidpiece of concrete.
And so these foreign proteins.
What they're believing is, whenthe blood stops moving, these
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things are precipitating orcondensating within the blood
column and they're stickingtogether and forming these
strange clots, which would makesense.
Why embalmers were noticingthis early on is because when
the blood stopped moving, thatclotting process, or the
formation of these things, wassped up and doctors wouldn't see
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it, because when a person diesthey come into the care of the
funeral home.
Their doctors don't come in andembalm the body.
They would never see it.
They would never see it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So this stuff isn't so, just from your experience
and research into this.
So is this affecting livingpeople like people, or is it
just something that's noticedpostmortem, or is this a health
risk?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I believe this just me looking at it, as, again, I'm
not a doctor or a scientist.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Your best guess.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
My best guess is this and some of this is somewhat
educated because I'm speakingwith some of these doctors and
scientists okay, what theybelieve is the mRNA vaccine was
designed to make your bodycreate a spike protein.
The spike protein is in thevirus too, right?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So they leave some room.
They say it is possible thatsome of this clotting issue
might be related to the virusitself.
Yeah that was kind of my nextquestion.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
In this it could also be the virus, it could be the
vaccine, just anecdotally damn,we're looking at this you have
coincidence of differenttimelines and events happening.
But yeah, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, this is the thing.
This is what these researchersare talking about.
They've now discovered andrealized that the spike protein
by itself is thrombogenic,meaning it can cause clotting
issues.
The difference between thenatural infection and the
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vaccine is that the vaccine hasthe mRNA code to make your body
create the spike protein that isthrombogenic.
It is a foreign protein.
So there's a difference betweenyou just coming in contact and
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getting some spike protein, andthat's risk in itself.
But when your own body createsthat spike protein inside of you
and it travels all around yourbody and you don't know where
it's going to land and you'vegot your own cells creating
spike protein, how much of thatspike protein is being produced
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and how much is it dosedependent?
Does it mean that the morespike protein you have, the more
thrombogenic you can get?
But it's not just spike protein, Matt, they're talking about.
When they use thepseudo-uridine to change this
code on stuff within the mRNA,not only did they create the
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spike protein, which is theirintent, but it will also, if you
follow that chain out, willcreate unintended proteins
called aberrant proteins.
So this may be a number ofdifferent proteins and I think
this is me again these aberrantproteins that we're noticing
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with these clots.
If these aberrant proteins thatare not, they're foreign to your
body, they're not necessarilyintended to be there, is these
foreign proteins potentiallycausing all of the 1,200 and
some potential side effects fromthe vaccine itself?
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Because the blood is changed,the blood's affected and it's
circulating through the wholebody?
For some people it might be aneurological issue.
For others it may be a clottingissue.
For others it may be speedingup cancers in their body because
these foreign proteins arefloating around in your blood,
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depriving your body of itsnatural ability to fight off
cancers.
Does that make sense?
There's something in the bloodthat shouldn't be there,
affecting our health, and forsome people it will show up as a
clot.
For others it may be some otherkind of an issue, like a cancer
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or some other kind of ailment.
But is it all linked to thesame thing?
And I am almost willing to putmoney on it it's all linked
together.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Well, I think one thing is for absolute certain is
there's something going on, andI mean this is trying to be
neutral and open-minded.
I'm not an expert, but justeveryone you speak with and
(35:00):
people you know there issomething going on with people's
health and there's a, onceagain, virus vaccine.
Who knows microplastics andwater?
It could be anything, I suppose, but there seems to be that
(35:22):
timeline somewhere around 2020,2021.
There's a before and an after,like I've even had it in my own
health and I'm a pretty healthy41-year-old, but there's just a
lot of weird shit going on.
(35:43):
And there's no consensus or evenreally good ideas that I've
heard mainstream.
And when we talk to people likeyourself and interview some of
these other researchers anddoctors, it gets written off as
(36:06):
conspiracy.
I've seen it.
You get someone on likeyourself and oh well, it's just
so people tune out to it andit's almost like we've stopped
talking about it.
Like anything with COVID ormandates or vaccines, it was
(36:26):
there one day and then it's justgone, which is strange, because
it was all we talked about.
Now nobody's pushing vaccines.
The CDC dropped all itsguidelines on COVID, basically,
(36:47):
and reduced it to the common fluor a cold.
What the hell happened?
And it's almost like we'rebeing told to just forget about
it.
Don't ask questions.
Nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Nothing to think Exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Like somebody fucked up a lot.
You know a lot of people fuckedup a lot and, without trying to
play political games, I meanhow can we have this massive
event, this worldwide event andharsh mandates and new chemicals
(37:29):
, new drugs, and then we juststopped talking about it?
Well, you're being generous.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
You're being generous , you know.
The CDC also recentlyrecommends people over 65, 65
and older, to get a booster.
Four months now.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So there's no place to go.
I don't see shit anymore.
I mean any news station, socialmedia.
I don't see shit.
I saw the damn Travis Kelseycommercial on like TikTok or
Facebook or YouTube or something.
That was the last thing I'dseen, and I didn't see anything
(38:17):
for six months before that.
And all of a sudden, TravisKelsey's coming out promoting
vaccines.
I'm like who the hell is stilltalking about this?
Ah yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Well, I noticed the.
I was sitting there with mywife and she was watching one of
her shows which she loves, likeHGTV stuff and all those things
and all of these pharmaceuticalcommercials, and one of the
things that I noticed one of theside effects they're starting
to talk about now are bloodclots.
(38:50):
This might produce blood clots.
What are they trying to do?
They trying to throw the buckon something else?
I don't understand.
Yeah, I'll be surprised.
Well, you're being extremelygenerous because they are trying
.
They're not going to be able tohide from this forever, but
(39:14):
they continuously pushing thisand trying to promote these
vaccines.
They're now it's more than justbeing you know.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, they're cold people.
They're an accessory.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
No, they're an accessory to the crowd.
Yeah, that's what I was lookingfor.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, they're now an accessory to this.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's, in it, amazing how you ever hear one of those
news stories that come up orwhatever.
You find out that the local, Idon't know.
We'll just pick on Taco Bellfor that, just for sake.
Oh, taco.
Bell here is just had to.
You know we shut down thislocation because you know three
people ended up with foodpoisoning.
(40:02):
Yeah, it's amazing how fastthey can shut down a business
for a potential food poisoningthing.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
They can find the coincidence.
Yeah, they can find thecoincidence, it's really easy.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Recalling a car and not making manufacturers or
manufacturers recalling a carbecause of a bad windshield,
wiper, tie, rod end or somethinglike that.
It's fascinating how they cando that and yet they ignored.
They ignored the people thathad the vaccine injuries.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's such an amazing analogy and that made me
think of.
I mean, we had an ice creammanufacturer down here in South
Florida, a local kind of like amom and pop place right, and 28
people got I don't know if itwas E Coli, think it might have
(40:57):
been E Coli, some kind offoodborne illness, and you know
we get a ton of tourists downhere.
So these people all went backto Georgia or Ohio or Tennessee
and you know somewhere local,and they were able to tie it to
this manufacturer and this icecream and this machine within a
(41:26):
week or two.
Like this is going in betweenstates.
How were they even sharing thisinformation?
It's impressive, to say theleast, like I'm impressed.
They found it that quick andthey, you know they were able to
shut it down and clean it and,you know, do something or other
(41:46):
with it, but it was.
Yeah, that's a great analogy tothat and it's like at first, you
know, maybe with COVID and thisis just me, you know, john Q,
public COVID vaccines it allseemed well-intentioned, and
maybe a lot of the experts andpublic health officials and you
(42:10):
know, maybe there was some.
Okay, maybe this vaccine doeswork or maybe these mandates do
work.
There's a period where you'regiven maybe a little more leeway
or forgiveness for beingwell-intentioned or not having
all the information and justtrying to make some decision,
like, okay, we don't know what'shappening, let's do something.
(42:31):
But then there's a point whereyou cross that line and that's
with anything.
You can claim ignorance to somepoint you know, but then yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But now, after this and you know, naomi Wolf had put
out that thing where they hadsome FOIA information and CDC
communications, not CDCgovernment communications
between CDC, fda, nih, surgeonGeneral Fauci Lewinsky, all
(43:09):
those people those FOIAinformation things showed that
they knew in May of 2021 thatthese vaccines were causing
myocarditis and blood clotissues.
This was about the time when,early on I mean I was I
(43:32):
estimated it was somewhere nearMay.
It could have been, you know,march or April, but in early
2021 is when I started noticingthese abnormal clotting issues.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Well, and the?
First vaccines came out in whatwas it?
November, december, like a verylimited release, or you know,
that was the tier one.
People, the priority people.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
It was.
It was in late December 2020,but it really started coming out
in January of 2021.
And I noticed early in 2021,something was something.
The blood clotting was goingcrazy and I was noticing.
You know, I usually estimateMay but, like I said, it's
(44:17):
probably earlier than that,maybe as early as March or April
, but if I knew it and then hereit is.
You know I don't remember whenthis came out from Naomi Wolfe,
it was sometime in latter 23,.
They knew the White House andall of those they knew in 2021,
(44:41):
in May I think the date on therewas May 24th or 25th of 2021,
they knew of the myocarditis,the heart issues and the blood
clotting.
If they knew that in May of2021, that's prior to the
mandate, matt.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I remember hearing about it through, I wouldn't say
, mainstream media, but I doremember there was a little bit
of mainstream concern orreporting on the myocarditis and
I don't know if that they weretrying to attribute that to the
virus or the vaccine.
(45:18):
But that's just my memory ofthat time.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
They did try to make it sound like it was from the
virus.
But the problem is is thoseFOIA documents said it was from
the vaccine.
This is why had they stoppedthis, matt, in the beginning.
If they had stopped this in May, when those communications were
(45:42):
going on and they knew thatthere was a blood clotting issue
happening and heart issueshappening, if they would have
stopped it back then I wouldhave given them just as much
grace as you were giving them alittle bit ago.
But because they knew it priorto the mandate and continue to
(46:03):
push it and push it.
And then you remember how thepresident said he was losing his
patience with those that werenot getting vaccinated that was
a little weird.
That was a little weird Tells meit's nefarious.
And now they're trying to makeit sound like oh, side effects
(46:28):
can happen, but it's extremelyrare, matt.
I'm telling you, these clotsthat I'm finding I already I'm
90 plus 90, way up high in the90% chance believe that these
are related to the vaccine.
When these clots are linked tothe vaccine 100% there's no
(46:51):
denying it, which, in my opinion, it's almost already there, but
I'm not the scientist and thedoctor to make that final call.
That means without thissubstance in these people's
bodies would they have livedlonger?
Yeah, and that means withoutthe.
(47:11):
If that's the case, then thatmeans their early demise or
their pre, their early deathcould be attributed to this
foreign substance floatingaround in their body.
And that means the vaccine wouldhave been responsible for the
(47:32):
deaths of untold, uncountablenumbers of people.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
So, and just to be clear too, you never saw any of
this before, or was it something?
Is it something you'd seerarely?
Would you see something similarto this before?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
or just never, I've never seen these types of clots.
I'm familiar with what somewhat's called chicken fat clots
Chicken fat clots we call themthat because that's what they
look like.
They look like little balls ofchicken fat or little chunks of
(48:14):
fat, like when you're cleaningyour chicken or getting ready to
cook your chicken and you knowthat little grisly like not
grisly, but little fat stuffthat up underneath the skin.
You know that's what chickenfat clots look like.
And I'm also familiar with someof the larger clots that are a
(48:35):
little bit more gummy or theystick together a little bit more
, but they're still very red,they're very slick.
You can you can pull them outwith your four sets and some of
them you can get that are fairlylong, but they they're not
strong.
You cannot take a couple oflocking four sets and attach it
(48:57):
to them and hold it up in theair and that kind of strength it
falls apart.
Well, and that's where you saythe fibrous, that's where that
yeah, that's where these thesethings are fibrous and sometimes
they're it's almost like arubber band.
You can literally stretch itand that video that went viral,
that's, you can see me andstretch it.
That is not normal.
(49:20):
That is totally not normal.
And the other thing that's notnormal is I don't hardly ever
recall seeing clots in arteriesand the thing about the ones in
the arteries, not is number one.
You just hardly would never seea clot, and if you did, it was
usually from a body that hadbeen dead for a long time, and
(49:43):
and some of the blood that wasin the artery might gel up like,
like, like grape jelly, yeah,like a blood clot, yeah.
But I've got an image that thatI had taken and I put a
yardstick next to it.
It was 33 inches long, mattHoly, shi and, and that came
(50:05):
from the artery, and next to itI had another clot that was not
quite as long but it was thickerand it came from the vein right
next to that artery.
Now what's striking is theyboth have that white fibrous
strand running down the lengthof them.
(50:25):
Yeah, that's what's alarming.
And clots typically happen onthe venous side, where the
pressure is lower.
There's the, the blood doesn'tmove as fast In the artery.
The reason why clots are rarein arteries is because there's
pressure in the artery.
Your, your heart is pumping andit's forcing that blood, it's
(50:48):
shooting that blood, moving it.
Okay, it doesn't have time, Ithink you know it doesn't have
time to coagulate.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
It doesn't yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
It's constantly moving.
It's on the high pressure side,you know, if you think about it
, do you get you're in your, inyour plumbing, right?
Do?
Do the clogs happen necessarilyon the side where you turn the
spigot on and the water comesout?
No, yeah, it happens throughyour drink, where it's slower
(51:17):
and it can accumulate and andstuff can accumulate and gum up.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
I, I, I could see that.
I mean, yeah, well, let's, Imean we've kind of covered that.
I guess the next thing like theclot part of it, the next thing
I guess is what have you kindof have you dealt with?
We talked a little bit aboutthe censorship and you know
(51:51):
stuff either being flagged orremoved.
Have you dealt with any otherkind of I mean, you're speaking
out about this harassment orthreats or any kind of
government actions.
Have you had anything going onwith that?
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Well, I, I, I, I, I lost work with one funeral home.
This funeral home was acorporate run funeral home and
the manager is all concernedabout publicity and blowback and
was not, was not happy about it, so we ended ties there.
(52:35):
Now, this same manager,somebody that I've known for,
you know, 20 years, you know hewas pro mandate, pro vaccine.
He was all in and I and hewouldn't even say things like
what's happening, why are somany younger people dying?
I don't, I don't understandwhat's happening, but he was,
(52:57):
you know, he was always tryingto find excuses and he saw the
clots too, but he was trying tomake excuses saying well, you
know, it's about medications,you know there's so many people
and all.
And then there's this you know,fentanyl is all this stuff.
That's going on, and I'm likeyou realize what you're saying
is that you would have tobasically say that everybody
(53:19):
that has these clots are on thesame exact drugs.
And I said I find that hard tobelieve, I'm sorry, I don't buy
it, and it doesn't necessarilymatter whether they're older or
younger.
I had an individual that I'veI've known again back from when
I was even in mortuary school.
(53:40):
He had, he had, we had got ontothis topic and he said that the
where he was working, the FDA,had contacted him in reference
to me to find out if I was alegitimate person or am I real.
And he said, oh yeah, he's realand all that stuff.
(54:01):
So I know the FDA knows aboutme.
I mean, obviously, why wouldthey call this person and ask if
I, if I'm a real person, so andso that's there as far as the
FDA or CDC or anybody contactedme directly?
No, nobody's contacted medirectly.
(54:22):
There's always going to behaters out there that are going
to try to make me sound like I'm.
They're gaslighting me to makeit sound like, oh, these things
are always.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Well, and what I saw was you were they try to pile
everyone into the oh yeah,anti-vax.
Well, he's just anti-vax, andyou know, I saw that just quick,
a quick Google search.
Is, you know, trying todiscredit it with this anti-vax
thing which, just that, lacks somuch nuance?
(54:53):
It's just like, okay, you don'thave to agree with everything.
Like, okay, maybe you can saysome shots, maybe I'll take some
shots, I won't.
But when they just, oh, you'reanti-vax, it's like saying
you're a flat earther, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Isn't that interesting?
Because there is a part of menow going back wishing I would
have never allowed my doctor toconvince me to get the annual
flu shot for the last number ofyears.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
So you have taken vaccines.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Sure, yeah, I've taken that.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I was never an anti-vax.
You took every vaccine thatprobably most people had.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
To a point, and so to call you anti-vax.
It's just so lazy.
Instead of trying to defend or,you know, argue back your
position or find some otherreason, or research it and
figure out what the fuck it isLike.
(55:58):
How about you figure out whatthe fuck this is and if it's?
A hoax find out that it's ahoax, find out that you're
putting shoestring in there.
Whatever the case is, you think.
But to just say anti-vax, it'sa bunch of anti-vax, it's so
lazy.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
They call Steve Kersh an anti-vaxer and he had the
vaccine.
It doesn't matter with themanymore, but you know the hate
pieces that are out there.
I mean, what's a shame is, youknow?
The fact was the very first hitpiece on me and that was like
within days after me publiclyspeaking out.
(56:38):
They find and now I've Googlesearched Richard Hirschman and
Bomber.
The first thing.
I don't know how much stuffyou're going to have to read
through all these hit piecestrying to discredit me.
It's the whole first page.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
It's the whole first page of you know fact checkers,
and they don't even defend thepoint.
They say, well, this probablyisn't true or accurate, but
they're not disproving it either.
Nobody's disproving Like I'msure you'd be.
(57:15):
Like, fucking, figure it out,tell me it's something else, I
don't care.
Like, figure out, it's not thevaccine, figure out it's fucking
micro plastics in water orfrogs or something.
Doritos, tell me it's something.
But if you're going to put allthis time and effort into just
trying to discredit the entiremovement that questions the
(57:40):
vaccine, take that money, takethat time and figure out what
the fuck is going on.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
You know those you know, and some of those I you
know, I know some of those youknow.
They're attached touniversities.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying,that's all, and one of the
things that's from a university.
This university paper publishedthis thing, basically
discrediting everything about me.
And again, you know, they don'tknow, I mean on one hand I
(58:15):
would love to have one of theseambulance chaser.
Awesome attorneys.
You know the people thatdefended people like Sandman.
You know that young man down onthe floor that you know CNN
discredited and get someattorneys and put some
defamation of character lawsuitsagainst these people.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Put some teeth to it.
Make them prove their claims.
If you can prove the, claimit's not slander and defam and
like prove it.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
But they don't they.
All they do is attack, theyattack and.
I'm not important.
The message is more important.
Yeah, they're having a hardtime and one of the reasons I
think that this story iscontinuing to grow is because a
(59:05):
picture is worth a thousandwords.
You hear all these doctorstalking about the problems with
the vaccine and the spikeprotein and how it attacks the
immune system and the IG and theteeth cells and all this other
stuff.
I'm an average person,including myself.
I glaze over all thatinformation.
(59:27):
It doesn't say anything to me.
No, but you can read all overthe place of these people with
blood clot issues and when Ishow these images of these clots
that I'm finding, that iswhat's getting people like you
know you don't have to be amedical expert to look at this
(59:48):
and say this don't look right.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
That's exactly what I did when I saw it.
I looked at it and I mean totry to bring some awareness, to
get someone to look at it.
I'm sure that's what you wanted.
You want someone to look at itand say what the hell is this?
And to get their attention.
I mean that was the perfect wayto do.
(01:00:13):
It was to show them Like you canjust walk around talking about
how you don't like the vaccineand how you're finding weird
things, but to actually showthem.
And yeah, so my listeners canpick it up If they go to your
Twitter.
You're saying they can stillfind your ex let's say ex, it's
(01:00:36):
ex now.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah, ex it is.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
So if they go to Richard Hirshman on ex and
you're saying these videos arestill up, but you have to have a
log in.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yeah, it sounds like, because I've sent this to again
.
I've sent other things thatI've shared to friends of mine
that don't have a Twitteraccount.
They can go and see the otherthings that I shared, but when
it comes to that video that Ishared, so you think, ex just
(01:01:16):
age restricted it, or something.
I don't think the agerestricted it.
I think what they did is theyrestricted it only to ex users
and I don't know, maybe there'ssomething nefarious about it or
maybe they're users.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I think that's an age restriction and some I haven't
been able to get my personalTwitter account or ex account
for a year.
It's been locked up fraud.
Maybe somebody tried to hack it.
I can't get it back.
We have one for the show, butyeah, that's a struggle.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
If you got one to the show, you should be able to see
it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You know what I think ?
I was looking on my ownpersonal phone and I wasn't
signed into the shows because mywife kind of has that on her
phone.
So I was like yeah, so I'veseen other things that have been
maybe sensitive content orviolence or something like that,
(01:02:15):
where you have to be signed in,where I can't see it, but then
if I go on my wife's or one ofthe businesses then we can see
it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
But yeah, Well, these people that I know they were
able to see it until somethinghappened and they took it down,
so was I.
For the people that arelistening.
If you that video I posted onFebruary 18th and I got again,
(01:02:47):
it was over 20 million views injust two days.
Now, at this point, it saysit's only been viewed 20.7
million.
How do you go from 20 millionviews in two days and it just
comes to a screech and a halt?
I mean, that's what we get inclose to two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Yeah, there's usually an exponential growth.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yes, now it's possible that Twitter may have
utilized this as a way.
For those people who don't havean ex account, the only way to
see it is for them to sign upfor an ex account.
Yeah, which is kind of funny orweird, but I'm not monetized.
(01:03:30):
I don't have anything that'smonetized at all.
Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I never saw You're not selling anything.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I'm not selling anything, so they can't
demonetize me because I'm notmonetized.
And I do that on purpose,because I don't want anybody to
ever think that this is to tryto-.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
You don't wanna be bought and paid for.
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I don't wanna be bought and paid for absolutely.
This is a spiritual thing forme.
I feel like I have anobligation to humanity to expose
what I'm seeing, because,because this is potentially
gonna affect humanity as a whole, I mean all of us.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Well, that's the right place to start and
unfortunately, so many peopleout there are.
I mean if they have a platformand millions of followers,
they're scared to death aboutgetting demonetized,
deplatformed.
That's their living, and we sawthat with the first wave of
(01:04:36):
people questioning mandates andvaccines back in 21.
I mean, people who might havedisagreed with it wouldn't speak
out against it, they wouldn'tquestion it, and it's not like.
I mean, you gotta be able toquestion stuff and thank God you
(01:04:56):
know our most popular platforms, or our audio podcast platforms
.
They don't censor us, which isreally great, I mean that's.
You know we can put this onthere.
They're not gonna have aproblem with it, and they
shouldn't.
And they seem to have chilledout a little bit on the
(01:05:19):
censorship and now people arestarting to be able to talk
about it.
I mean, you couldn't haveposted that video on what was
Twitter two years ago?
No way.
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I wasn't on Twitter two years ago.
I didn't trust Twitter backthen and the only reason I
opened a Twitter account in Mayof 23.
So that's not even been a yearyet, and the only reason why I
did is cause, after Elon Musktook over, everybody was saying
how it's different.
Now you can be, there's morefree speech, but I noticed
(01:05:54):
there's not.
I mean, it is freer than others, but it's not totally free
speech.
It's crazy how they try tocontrol your thought and it's a
shame when we things are rightin front of us.
(01:06:16):
They're trying to changeeverything that you believe and
unfortunately, they're creatingmore conspiracy theorists and
their mind than they arepreventing it.
Because by telling me that Idon't know what I'm looking at,
I mean, they're trying to tellme there are some of these
(01:06:37):
people, these haters out there.
Some of them are doctors.
Oh, these are just, you know,some kind of a fat emulous or
something like that.
I've been in bombing for 23years.
The first 20 years I've been inbombing.
You can't tell me I don't knowwhat I'm looking at.
It almost reminds me of thatbook, 1984.
(01:07:00):
Yeah, that, when they're tryingto convince Winston, the guy in
the book, that two plus two isfive.
Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's prophetic and they're
gonna beat you into submission.
This isn't the first timeeither.
I mean, history always repeatsitself.
This isn't the first timethey've tried to control thought
and information, that thepowers that be right.
I mean.
This has existed in othercountries, other societies China
did it, soviet Union did it,north Korea does it.
(01:07:29):
We've done it at differenttimes.
You know, the Nazis certainlydid it, japan did it.
It's not a new story.
So my other question is so doyou?
Are you self-employed, so tospeak?
Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yes, I am, and that might be one of the reasons.
Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, I think that's a big reason and I'm seeing that
just in my podcast.
For people about any subject, Ihave an impossible time getting
an employee of anything itcould be a cop, it could be a
theme park employee, it could besomeone in a corporation to
(01:08:14):
come on.
Even most of my guests areanonymous You're actually the
first one that isn't anonymousbut I can't even have them come
on with their voice changed andI can't see them.
It's amazing how scared peopleare.
Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I was given the option to be anonymous in the
beginning.
Yeah, yeah, and I was given thewarning.
Hey, you understand, you don'tknow what's gonna happen, and
this is a big industry and allthis other stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Well, you're out about it, which is amazing.
And you can be because you'reself-employed, right?
Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
What are they gonna take from?
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
you.
Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I didn't trust anonymous sources, though After
the last.
You just look at mainstreammedia for the last, I don't know
, almost 10 years, anonymoussources, this anonymous source,
and then you find out none of itwas true.
So who trusts anonymous sources?
And I didn't trust anonymoussources and I'm like no, I know
what.
I know.
(01:09:21):
I went and I tried to research,I tried to sit there and I've
spoke out to other morticians.
I knew I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
And I wasn't gonna go out there and just anonymously
say something.
Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
No, I'm putting my attention on the line.
Yeah, I'm putting my attentionon the line and it says a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
And it says a lot that you're not promoting
anything.
It says a lot that you're notmonetized, that you're not
selling anything, because somany people I mean, I don't know
if you listen to a lot ofpodcasts they need to promote
themselves and that's the onlyreason they're coming on is to.
They don't care about themessage, they don't care about
(01:10:05):
what they're doing.
They want more subscribers ormore book sales or more or
whatever, and it's-.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I respect that, though I mean it's true that
people that have podcasts andthey need monetization in order
to make a living I don't do thisfor a living.
Well, I'm talking more aboutthe guests I'm talking about-.
Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, like there's doctors that'll speak to
me about various differentthings, but they're all
monetized and they're selling abook or they're trying to
promote a documentary.
So you know there's definitely adifference of motivation, not
(01:10:48):
that you can't have you know,good information and the right
thoughts and the right thingsand still make money.
I don't have a problem withthat at all.
But you can tell when peopleare very obviously just trying
to find a niche and talk aboutsomething, exploit it and get
(01:11:09):
themselves exposure.
So that's the other end of it,which is why we did a lot of our
guest anonymous was like wewere trying to get away from
that.
And also you can't talk toemployees Like I can't talk to a
cop and get them to be realwith me and honest with me when
(01:11:30):
his name and face are attachedto it.
So how the hell do we get thosestories?
So that's the reason we do someof that.
But you know you get.
I mean, you're a diamond in therough as far as that.
that's concerned, where you know, you're not worried about the
blowback, which is great, it'sfantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Yeah, I can't.
I have to answer to God, matt,and I honestly feel like I've
been put in this position for areason, and I don't understand
why, because I'm just a regularperson like anybody else.
Yet there's something inside ofme, even before I came public,
(01:12:17):
in those, especially that lastcouple of weeks, I had to speak.
It was like something inside ofme wasn't allowing me to sit
easy.
I wasn't able to sleep well, Ihad to speak.
I had to sit there and sharethis and I didn't know how to go
(01:12:40):
about doing it.
It just happened.
I tried reaching out Before Iwas public.
I went public in January 26 or27.
It was on the Dr Jane Ruby show, but I screen captured an email
(01:13:07):
response that I was given tothis other person.
I won't name who it is, but Iscreen captured.
It was January 19th of 2022.
I screen captured at 11.55 am.
Okay, and I ran across this acouple of weeks ago and it was
(01:13:28):
to a place that I was trying toget this information to
important people in hopes thatthey would try to look into it,
and I went to them I said thankyou, I will try to get
information best I can.
I'm okay with you sharing thisinformation and my phone number.
I have taken over 30 pictureseach from different bodies.
(01:13:51):
This was early on.
I had 30 pictures, just over 30pictures.
I'm careful not to takepictures of personal identifying
features because I'm trying notto get myself in trouble.
But I am concerned about thisand I feel that if someone can
figure out what this is andwhat's causing it, maybe it will
(01:14:12):
save lives.
I took some of the quoteunquote worms, because that's
what I was calling it, becausethat's what it looks like
sometimes.
Yeah, to a medical school.
And then they said they'd neverseen anything like it.
I said that they're going tolook at it under a microscope
but they're limited on what theycan do.
(01:14:32):
I screen captured this becausepeople need to understand that
the whole concern of mine, evenback then, was my concern for
humanity.
My hopes was that whatever thisis these worms or these things
(01:14:53):
are, which I was calling themworms I don't do that anymore
because now everybody wants tosay they're parasites, but it
was to figure out what this isand what's causing it.
It maybe will save lives.
It was about saving lives.
Something's wrong.
I know there's something wrongand if we don't investigate it,
(01:15:14):
who knows how many people thiswill affect?
Is this an underlying issue,Like we were talking earlier?
Is this why there are so manydifferent variations of adverse
effects?
Some people having memory loss,Some people are having strokes,
Some people having heartattacks, domicils, cancers, all
(01:15:36):
these different side effects Is?
Are these aberrant, abnormal?
Whatever proteins, whateverthis stuff is that I'm seeing?
Is this just nothing more thana sign of something in the blood
that is wrong?
We gotta get to the bottom ofit.
(01:15:56):
Not for humanity, I mean notfor me, it's for humanity.
I have family members andfriends.
Some are vaccine injured, Someare fine.
I don't understand why somepeople are okay and some people
aren't.
I don't get it.
I don't understand.
It's not my place to understand.
(01:16:16):
All I know is this is abnormal.
This showed up all of a suddenin early 2021.
It has not stopped.
Sometimes it's worse thanothers.
Some people have large ones,Some people have smaller ones,
but there's something haschanged in the blood and instead
of having only you know maybetwo out of 10 bodies that are
(01:16:39):
clotted, now it's like eight ornine bodies out of 10 have
clotting issues.
Jesus, we're totally backwardsfrom the way things used to be.
Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Yeah, Well, your motivations are certainly in the
right place, it seems, and,like I said before, that speaks
volumes.
So people listening to that, Imean you don't stand to gain
anything besides criticism.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Oh, and I've got lots of criticism.
Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Just look at.
Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Google.
Yeah, I mean, imagine if I wereto try to get a job today.
Oh, I know A lot of employers.
Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
They look you up, they try to do a Google search
on you.
Yeah, imagine me trying to geta job now.
Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
That speaks volumes.
I mean there's nothing to gainbut criticism and I appreciate
that.
You know God bless you for that.
It's something you feel neededto be told and you put your neck
out there for no good reasonotherwise, but to help and to
(01:17:51):
try to draw attention, and Ithink, when it's all said and
done, more people need to speakup about this, and somebody who
has the capabilities and theequipment and the research, the
knowledge, needs to fucking lookinto this and look into what's
(01:18:16):
going on, because it's notnormal.
Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
So I thank you for coming on and talking with me,
really appreciate it, man.
Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Hey, my pleasure, man .
Hopefully others will speak out.
We have to.
The politicians are the onesthat I'm really upset with,
because they exempted themselvesfrom this stuff.
They know the issues, but theydid not do anything to protect
(01:18:52):
the individual's right andfreedom to say no to this
experimental vaccine, and theycontinue to push this.
This should have been taken offthe market a long time ago, and
even if they didn't take it offthe market.
it should have never been forcedor coerced on the population to
(01:19:13):
take something that was soexperimental and now,
unfortunately, we're going to besuffering the long-term
consequences, as we learnthrough time of the side effects
and the long-term effects.
Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Well that's right.
Of course the governmentexempted themselves, or the
politicians.
I mean, what did Woodragan say?
You know what's?
The scariest thing you can hearis hi, I'm from the government,
I'm here to help.
Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Yeah Well, thanks again.
It's been a fantastic interviewand we really appreciate you
coming on and hopefully somebodyfucking looks into this shit
and hopefully we get some changeout of it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Yep, that's my hope.
That's my hope.
Thank you, matt.
Appreciate it, you're welcome.
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For one, we just got some audioequipment and some new gear
that we're gonna be able to doremote and phone interviews.
So this episode we did it allover the phone just for
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geographic reasons, and it's anabsolutely fantastic guest.
The other thing that we'redoing different this episode is
the guest will not be anonymous.
So we're gonna be interviewingRichard Hirschman and he is a
funeral home director,professional and balmer, and
(00:45):
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We're not pretending to bescientists or doctors or
anything like that.
So as you listen to thisepisode and it's a little
graphic, so I'll give thatwarning.
But as you listen to thisepisode and you'll hear him
(01:07):
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going on.
But there's one thing that'sglaringly obvious is there's
something going on and somebodyneeds to figure it out.
Also, in the show notes forthis episode, we're going to be
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That's worth a thousand words.
So enjoy and thanks for tuningin.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
MUSIC Hello Matt.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Hey Richard, thanks for taking my call and talking
with us today here on the show.
Yes, sir, not a problem.
Yes, so I guess what was reallyinteresting about you and we
kind of heard about you foundout about you.
You had some videos on Twitterand you are an embalmer, correct
(02:47):
?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Penal director and embalmer correct.
Okay, and you had a coupleviral videos going around
showing you know, these massive,strange, crazy blood clots that
you were pulling out of peopleduring the embalming process.
Is that that's what?
(03:09):
That was right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's correct.
That is 100% correct.
That's the reason why I've beensharing this is because this is
abnormal and that last viralvideo that went out, which, of
course, has been censored now.
Yeah, I noticed that.
(03:32):
Yeah, it's amazing how it endedup with them.
I couldn't believe it 20million views in like two days,
oh geez.
And then they shut it down.
I don't remember exactly whatit was at, but it's hardly
gotten to any traction sincethen, and I've gotten reports
(03:52):
from people that don't have aTwitter account and I send them
a link and they get this messagesaying this page does not exist
or no longer exists.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, I couldn't find it anymore as of about a week
ago.
It just vanished, man.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh, it's still there on my account.
From what I understand, you'vegot to literally have a Twitter
account now to see it, but ifyou're looking, some people
posted it on Facebook and theseother areas, the link to it, and
now Facebook and these othersites are saying that it no
(04:30):
longer exists.
And I don't know if that'sFacebook doing it or Twitter
doing it, but somebody's doingit, somebody's preventing people
from seeing it.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's the world we live in, this manicured
information that everyone gets.
We actually just lost ourYouTube channel for no reason
and it seemed to be like anautomated deletion of our page,
like some kind of a softwareprogram or an algorithm
(05:06):
supposedly picked up that wewere spam and we put an appeal
in to have what's supposedly areal person look it over to
check it and yeah, they said ohyeah, our decision stands Like
you got to be kidding me andthey couldn't give me a reason
(05:28):
like misinformation or I mean,our page was pretty legit,
everything we had was prettymainstream or backed up, but
they don't want you to have avoice, they don't want you to
have a platform.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, it's a shame that this is happening, because
you can obviously still talkabout Bigfoot and Aliens and two
but carvers and all kinds ofstuff.
But anytime that you try toshare anything that is outside
of something that they don'twant people to see, they have a
(06:11):
way of making it go away ordisappearing.
But the reason why I postedthat video, Matt, was I had
received a number of commentsand other things trying to say
well, I won't believe it untilyou can show me a video of you
doing it.
And it's hard to make a videounless I've got an assistant or
(06:35):
somebody in the involvement roomhelping me, and that particular
one I just so happened to havesomebody there and so we were
able to record that.
But I've had some other videosthat are out there that are real
.
But I have to show you knowwhen people hear the stories,
(07:00):
and I'm sure your listeners andyourself have seen and heard of
so many reports of peoplesuffering with blood clots over
the last three years now.
Oh yeah, and you know, as anembalmer, when I'm embalming the
body, I'm looking at the blood.
(07:20):
I mean I've been looking atblood for 23 years now.
I mean I've been embalmingsince 2001.
Okay, and the what peoplearen't understanding when they
sit there and they hear thesereports and then I see what I
see?
These clots are different.
They're not the same bloodclots that we would be familiar
(07:45):
with.
Now, a lot of the blood clotswe embalmers probably were
seeing are considered postmortemclots or deep vein thrombosis,
Things like that, which I lookedit up before I went public said
it affects maybe one in athousand people.
Well, that's still kind of rare, you know.
Yeah.
(08:05):
We're not familiar with bloodclots.
They're red.
Blood clots are like red jelly.
They're not.
They don't have this stringywhite fibers substance to it.
So there's something changed inearly 2021.
That's when I started seeingthese.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So to back up just a tad and maybe I don't have an
incredible understanding and thelisteners don't either.
So when you I mean you saidyou've been doing this 23 years
now, which is a heck of a longtime.
But when you embalm someone,can you kind of verbally walk me
(08:46):
through that process to, so wecan kind of understand what
you're doing?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Sure, embalming is something that we do that
prepares a deceased, a deadperson, for typically it's for a
public viewing at the funeralhome.
Once they're in the casket whena person dies, it's not always
a pretty picture, you know.
(09:13):
A lot of times the body turnsto a kind of a bluish color.
Blood settles and you know sothe color is all off.
And when we do the embalmingwe're basically injecting into
the arterial system an artery, alarge artery.
We typically will use thecarotid artery or maybe the
(09:38):
iliac or femoral artery down inthe groin area and slash leg,
and sometimes we'll even useaxillary or brachial arteries.
Those arteries will help, youknow, send fluid down into the
arm.
But the basic process is raisethe artery which is a larger one
(09:59):
those are the six points thatwe typically will inject from
and then we also raise the largevein that rides right along
next to that artery.
When we're pumping the fluidinto the artery it builds up
pressure.
You open the vein and thatallows the blood to come out.
(10:19):
And what that does is it pushesthe fluid, the preservative,
the chemicals which you know haspreservatives and agents in
there, to kind of help sanitizeand slows down the decomposition
process.
But it also restores the colorof the body, so they're no
longer that bluish color.
It returns the color to thefingertips, typically the lips.
(10:43):
It makes the person look alittle more natural.
So that's the process.
It's almost like flushing yourradiator in your car or bleeding
the brakes, so to speak,putting fresh fluid in and
bleeding out all the old stuff,and that's basically what I
envision, yeah, and but thatthat makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So you're, you're pushing pretty much all of the
blood out of the body.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah Well, I can't say 100%, it's all, but it is
the majority of it.
We usually use roughly and itdepends and it varies.
Each case varies a little bit,but usually it takes about three
to three and a half gallons offluid to to flush out the
majority of the body.
(11:29):
Sometimes we have to use moreand, of course, smaller bodies.
Sometimes we don't need thatmuch, but the average person is
going to be.
We start off with about a tankof about three to three and a
half gallons of fluid.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, and how long does that take usually?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, you know, each embalmer is a little different.
For me it's, you know, it's.
It's usually about an hour.
Hour and a half is probably wastypical.
Unfortunately, now it'ssometimes it's a little longer.
So sometimes it's been takingme two, two and a half hours
(12:10):
Depends on the case, depends onhow bad the clots are and how
much the fluid moves around andif I have to make additional
incisions to to inject differentparts of the body because of
issues with the fluid movingthrough that area.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So okay, I mean, I guess that makes a lot of sense
because that's what clots dowithin the body, yeah, and that
plugs it up.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It does and, and we will know it, I typically like
to embalm from the iliac region.
I also use the right commoncarotid, but my most of the time
, for the last 15 years, Iusually use the artery down
there in the groin by the legand when we're pushing that
(12:56):
fluid in, we're, we're, we're, I, I, I do.
You know, I'm washing the bodyand massaging the body and I'm
looking at the hands and I'mlooking at the face and I'm
looking at the other leg to seeis the color coming back into
the body, making it look morenatural?
And that's how I know thatthere's fluid going there.
(13:16):
And so let's just pretend for amoment I'm embalming,
everything is going fine, butfor whatever reason, the left
arm is still not getting anyfluid.
We can usually tell when thefluid is getting there, because
we'll see what it's calleddistention.
You know, like how you can lookat the veins in the back of
(13:39):
your hand.
You can see the veins areslightly raised up.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And, and you know so, if we see those vessels are
raised up, then that's tellingme that I'm getting some kind of
pressure in there.
But if the, let's say, thefingertips are still blue,
they're not, they're not gettingpink again and that blue color
is not going away, that tells methe left arm is having a
(14:04):
problem.
And so, in order to make thatleft arm right, I would have to
go in there and try to raise theaxillary, which is in the
armpit, or the brachial, whichis, you know, by your, by your,
you know your, your, in betweenyour elbow and your armpit.
And then we try to injectstraight down that arm,
(14:25):
targeting that one arm, in orderto kind of build up the
pressure on that one arm, inorder to force the blood flow
back towards the heart and tohelp clear up those fingertips
and and embalm that armspecifically.
And those are the additionalpoints that we sometimes do back
in the day prior to all of this.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Prior to COVID.
Prior to COVID.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, I'm not saying sometimes we would have issues
with drainage of some of thesome of the other vessels or
arms and or a leg and we have toraise that up.
But back back, before all ofthis, the majority of the bodies
we would embalm, we wouldconsider those to be a one point
, meaning I'd only have to pickup that one artery, that one
(15:15):
vein, and I'd be able to embalmthe whole body from that one
point.
Unfortunately, with all theclotting issues we've had, I'm
having to make several multiplepoint injections because of the
clotting issues.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And is this something I mean if you're speaking with
other funeral home directors orembalmers?
Is this something a lot offolks are finding?
That's.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Absolutely no.
Yes, I know for a fact thatthat's happening and it's not
just by hearing them talkingabout it.
We sometimes like if somebodydies, I'm in Alabama, so let's
say somebody died in Texas.
Typically a funeral home inTexas will pick up the body and
(16:06):
they'll prepare it and they'llsend the body here to Alabama.
And I had one of these casesthe other day where this VM
bomber, from wherever the bodycame, had obviously had been
having problems with clottingissues because it was they tried
(16:30):
seven different points ofinjection as opposed to one.
So I know they're having issueswith pushing fluid through the
body.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So, without even talking to the person, you can
tell what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, I can see it.
I can also see that some, evenif they tried to do a one point
injection if it's shipped in Icould tell they were having
issues because different partsof the body would not be well
embalmed.
There's still the colors notright and there's issues.
Now that doesn't mean that thatembalmer did necessarily
(17:09):
anything wrong.
It just tells me that thosesections were not getting fluid
for some reason, and my guesswould be because of the clotting
issues.
They're not.
The clots are preventing thefluid from flowing into those
areas.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, and you're experiencing it too, so you can
see exactly what the problem is.
I mean, you know, from havingto work through this, you're
like, okay, yeah, they're havingthe same shit.
I am.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Right so without even talking to them.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I can almost tell Geez, that is terrible and I saw
some of the pictures of theseon.
You have pictures because youkeep some of them right.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, I started in September of 2021 taking
pictures of some of thesestrange clots.
I do not take pictures of allof them just off and on as a
kind of a record to show.
In the beginning it was just Ineeded evidence when I'm talking
(18:15):
about, when I started speakingout about this, I needed to have
something to prove what it isI'm talking about.
I mean, you know what I'msaying.
I needed proof.
I needed something to back upwhat I'm saying.
And now and then, after I cameout publicly in about March of
(18:37):
2022, I'm getting calls andbeing asked to send samples to
pathologists and scientists,because people aren't
necessarily wanting to talkabout it and they knew I was
seeing it.
So I started collecting some ofthese samples so they can try
(19:00):
to analyze them and study themand try to figure out what's
going on, or at least that wasmy hope.
Every one of them say 100% thatthis ain't normal, something's
wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So whenever you send these samples off.
Is what you're saying?
Yeah, they come back to youwith results.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Not always.
Sometimes I get absolutelynothing back from them and
sometimes I do get contactedback from them, but most of them
are.
There's not a whole lot ofinformation as far as what
exactly it is.
Mike Adams did a Mike Adams didan ICPMS analysis, which is
(19:52):
breaking it down into figuringout what the Now check it out,
figuring out what the chemicalor the heavy metal components
are there Basically it's almostlike your anatomical chart.
You know how much magnesium,potassium, those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, so it's basically analyzing the
ingredients of this thing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Right, yes, and here in the last handful of months I
don't want to be specific I'vebeen some other researchers
contacted me and wanted somesamples, and they wanted to
replicate the Mike Adamsanalysis.
So they sent these off to twoother labs that did the same
(20:39):
type of analysis and what theyfound is that Mike Adams
analysis stands true.
They found basically the samething.
Now, there might not be exactlythe same number every time,
because each one of thesesamples is from a different
person, yeah, yeah, but it'sshowing the alarming amounts of
(21:01):
these different elements, thatkind of match that Now, what
they're working on doing istrying to figure out.
Ok, so now we've got thatinformation and we haven't
gotten or at least I'm from whatI've been told, we don't have
100% some of the next tests thatare being done, which is to try
(21:22):
to break down and figure out.
All right, well, what kind ofproteins are these?
What is the protein make up?
Because that's going to be alittle bit different than the
ICPMS.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
OK, what did they find?
I mean, I know you're not aresearcher or a doctor or
anything like that, but justwhen Mike Adams did that, what
was basically found, or what wasthe explanation of what these
are made out of?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, the big thing that they found was that it
lacked in iron content, meaningthat this is not a blood clot at
all.
That's something other than ablood clot.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Because all blood has iron in it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
yeah, and that's why blood clots are red, because
it's full of iron.
It's red and typically that'swhat blood clots are.
Again, it's like grape jelly,it's just coagulated blood.
But these are not.
These are not that there's sometraces of iron in there,
because surely I'm assuming thatthere's some red blood cells
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still trapped into some of theseand in some of the samples and
the pictures that I have shared.
Sometimes you'll notice alittle bit of pink around there.
Sometimes you'll notice astreak of dark material, which
is blood that's been trappedalong the side of these things.
So there is some blood, butoverall it's not blood, it's
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some other kind of proteins andDr Ryan Kohl has looked at these
things and he says that they'refull of isana fills and
different things and amyloid.
You see, he calls itamyloid-like protein.
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It looks kind of like chickenfat or like a lure, I wouldn't
say chicken fat Like it looks.
Yeah, it does.
It does look like a worm,they're pale.
Yeah, yes, they're kind of awhitish rubbery substance like
calamari Really.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, that's a good description actually.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It is, and the next big debate that was going on for
a while whether these must bepostmortem clots, meaning they
happen after death.
They can't possibly beanti-mortem, which is while
somebody's still alive.
And in the beginning I evenargued with some of the doctors.
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Some of the doctors agreed withme saying that there's no way
that these could be postmortem,because there's too much
structure there, they're toostrong and these are some kind
of protein that must have beenaccumulating over time.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, and if they're fibrous that's not just going to
pop up.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Right and I believe that myself.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And again I've argued with some of the doctors.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That makes sense to me.
Yeah, yes.
Now I had a case earlier thisyear, in 2024, that I've had to
eat crow on that, that thesethings are also forming
postmortem as well, because Ihad a case where the body had
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these large tubes that weregoing into it and it was full of
blood and that blood hadseparated.
In these tubes the dark spotswere the red blood cells and
then this kind of yellowish goldstuff which I would assume
would be the serum of the bloodhad separated.
When I opened it up during theembalming process, the dark
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stuff came out as a typicalblood clot.
It was just like grape jelly.
It was almost like jello.
It had taken the shape of thetube.
Yeah, I tried to catch it andcatch some of it to see what's
going on there, and it wasliterally falling apart in my
hand, which is what a typicalblood clot would do.
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But when that yellowish colorstarted coming out, in that were
these strange fibrous lookingclots, and I know they had to
have formed in the tube becausewhere the tube entered the body,
the, there was they're calledcannulas where it goes into the
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and it was going into the vein.
I didn't know it at first but I, you know I do now, but that in
the end of the cannulas weresmall holes that allowed blood
to go in and out through thattube and those holes were way
too small for these clots thisclot that I got in order to pass
through.
So it had to have formed insideof that tube.
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But now, at the same time,there's a recent there was a
recent whistleblower on PhilipMcMillan's.
It was interviewed that worksin a cath lab and guess what?
The heat's been removing out ofliving people rubbery clots.
So I know for a fact and I hadalready had reports from funeral
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directors telling me that theirfamily member described very
similar clots removed from theirloved ones before they died.
So it had to have happenedbefore death as well.
So I think we were all inagreement that this is abnormal
and some of the doctors thatsaid this had to be postmortem
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are now saying you can't havepostmortem clots in living
people, so it must be happeningin anti-mortem.
But at the same time I waswrong by saying that these can't
be postmortem, because I hadthat case where I saw that it
had to have formed in that tube.
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Either way, matt, what we'rebelieving now, or what some of
the people that I'm researchingmy own thought again, I'm not a
doctor or scientist.
Why I think us morticians, usembalmers, we're noticing this
is because we notice the changein the blood.
We notice there's some abnormalclotting.
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Whatever this foreign proteinis that's floating around in the
blood must be in a solublestate.
It's a liquid.
Something happens.
We don't know what exactlycauses it, but something happens
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when these things start tocombine and stick together,
forming an actual clot.
And because when the body, whenthe deceased, dies and the
blood stops moving and some ofthese researchers thought early
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on that these were bothanti-mortem and postmortem they
thought that these things werecontinuing to form after death
and with that forming in thetube proved to me that they were
right.
It has to, and so I kind ofthink about it as like an
activation or something.
Yeah right, like in a cementtruck.
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A cement truck.
As long as that cement truck isturning, you're fine.
But once that cement starts tostop moving, it's a matter of
time when it becomes a solidpiece of concrete.
And so these foreign proteins.
What they're believing is, whenthe blood stops moving, these
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things are precipitating orcondensating within the blood
column and they're stickingtogether and forming these
strange clots, which would makesense.
Why embalmers were noticingthis early on is because when
the blood stopped moving, thatclotting process, or the
formation of these things, wassped up and doctors wouldn't see
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it, because when a person diesthey come into the care of the
funeral home.
Their doctors don't come in andembalm the body.
They would never see it.
They would never see it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So this stuff isn't so, just from your experience
and research into this.
So is this affecting livingpeople like people, or is it
just something that's noticedpostmortem, or is this a health
risk?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I believe this just me looking at it, as, again, I'm
not a doctor or a scientist.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Your best guess.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
My best guess is this and some of this is somewhat
educated because I'm speakingwith some of these doctors and
scientists okay, what theybelieve is the mRNA vaccine was
designed to make your bodycreate a spike protein.
The spike protein is in thevirus too, right?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So they leave some room.
They say it is possible thatsome of this clotting issue
might be related to the virusitself.
Yeah that was kind of my nextquestion.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
In this it could also be the virus, it could be the
vaccine, just anecdotally damn,we're looking at this you have
coincidence of differenttimelines and events happening.
But yeah, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, this is the thing.
This is what these researchersare talking about.
They've now discovered andrealized that the spike protein
by itself is thrombogenic,meaning it can cause clotting
issues.
The difference between thenatural infection and the
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vaccine is that the vaccine hasthe mRNA code to make your body
create the spike protein that isthrombogenic.
It is a foreign protein.
So there's a difference betweenyou just coming in contact and
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getting some spike protein, andthat's risk in itself.
But when your own body createsthat spike protein inside of you
and it travels all around yourbody and you don't know where
it's going to land and you'vegot your own cells creating
spike protein, how much of thatspike protein is being produced
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and how much is it dosedependent?
Does it mean that the morespike protein you have, the more
thrombogenic you can get?
But it's not just spike protein, Matt, they're talking about.
When they use thepseudo-uridine to change this
code on stuff within the mRNA,not only did they create the
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spike protein, which is theirintent, but it will also, if you
follow that chain out, willcreate unintended proteins
called aberrant proteins.
So this may be a number ofdifferent proteins and I think
this is me again these aberrantproteins that we're noticing
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with these clots.
If these aberrant proteins thatare not, they're foreign to your
body, they're not necessarilyintended to be there, is these
foreign proteins potentiallycausing all of the 1,200 and
some potential side effects fromthe vaccine itself?
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Because the blood is changed,the blood's affected and it's
circulating through the wholebody?
For some people it might be aneurological issue.
For others it may be a clottingissue.
For others it may be speedingup cancers in their body because
these foreign proteins arefloating around in your blood,
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depriving your body of itsnatural ability to fight off
cancers.
Does that make sense?
There's something in the bloodthat shouldn't be there,
affecting our health, and forsome people it will show up as a
clot.
For others it may be some otherkind of an issue, like a cancer
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or some other kind of ailment.
But is it all linked to thesame thing?
And I am almost willing to putmoney on it it's all linked
together.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Well, I think one thing is for absolute certain is
there's something going on, andI mean this is trying to be
neutral and open-minded.
I'm not an expert, but justeveryone you speak with and
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people you know there issomething going on with people's
health and there's a, onceagain, virus vaccine.
Who knows microplastics andwater?
It could be anything, I suppose, but there seems to be that
(35:22):
timeline somewhere around 2020,2021.
There's a before and an after,like I've even had it in my own
health and I'm a pretty healthy41-year-old, but there's just a
lot of weird shit going on.
(35:43):
And there's no consensus or evenreally good ideas that I've
heard mainstream.
And when we talk to people likeyourself and interview some of
these other researchers anddoctors, it gets written off as
(36:06):
conspiracy.
I've seen it.
You get someone on likeyourself and oh well, it's just
so people tune out to it andit's almost like we've stopped
talking about it.
Like anything with COVID ormandates or vaccines, it was
(36:26):
there one day and then it's justgone, which is strange, because
it was all we talked about.
Now nobody's pushing vaccines.
The CDC dropped all itsguidelines on COVID, basically,
(36:47):
and reduced it to the common fluor a cold.
What the hell happened?
And it's almost like we'rebeing told to just forget about
it.
Don't ask questions.
Nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Nothing to think Exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Like somebody fucked up a lot.
You know a lot of people fuckedup a lot and, without trying to
play political games, I meanhow can we have this massive
event, this worldwide event andharsh mandates and new chemicals
(37:29):
, new drugs, and then we juststopped talking about it?
Well, you're being generous.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
You're being generous , you know.
The CDC also recentlyrecommends people over 65, 65
and older, to get a booster.
Four months now.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So there's no place to go.
I don't see shit anymore.
I mean any news station, socialmedia.
I don't see shit.
I saw the damn Travis Kelseycommercial on like TikTok or
Facebook or YouTube or something.
That was the last thing I'dseen, and I didn't see anything
(38:17):
for six months before that.
And all of a sudden, TravisKelsey's coming out promoting
vaccines.
I'm like who the hell is stilltalking about this?
Ah yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Well, I noticed the.
I was sitting there with mywife and she was watching one of
her shows which she loves, likeHGTV stuff and all those things
and all of these pharmaceuticalcommercials, and one of the
things that I noticed one of theside effects they're starting
to talk about now are bloodclots.
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This might produce blood clots.
What are they trying to do?
They trying to throw the buckon something else?
I don't understand.
Yeah, I'll be surprised.
Well, you're being extremelygenerous because they are trying
.
They're not going to be able tohide from this forever, but
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they continuously pushing thisand trying to promote these
vaccines.
They're now it's more than justbeing you know.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, they're cold people.
They're an accessory.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
No, they're an accessory to the crowd.
Yeah, that's what I was lookingfor.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, they're now an accessory to this.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's, in it, amazing how you ever hear one of those
news stories that come up orwhatever.
You find out that the local, Idon't know.
We'll just pick on Taco Bellfor that, just for sake.
Oh, taco.
Bell here is just had to.
You know we shut down thislocation because you know three
people ended up with foodpoisoning.
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Yeah, it's amazing how fastthey can shut down a business
for a potential food poisoningthing.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
They can find the coincidence.
Yeah, they can find thecoincidence, it's really easy.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Recalling a car and not making manufacturers or
manufacturers recalling a carbecause of a bad windshield,
wiper, tie, rod end or somethinglike that.
It's fascinating how they cando that and yet they ignored.
They ignored the people thathad the vaccine injuries.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's such an amazing analogy and that made me
think of.
I mean, we had an ice creammanufacturer down here in South
Florida, a local kind of like amom and pop place right, and 28
people got I don't know if itwas E Coli, think it might have
(40:57):
been E Coli, some kind offoodborne illness, and you know
we get a ton of tourists downhere.
So these people all went backto Georgia or Ohio or Tennessee
and you know somewhere local,and they were able to tie it to
this manufacturer and this icecream and this machine within a
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week or two.
Like this is going in betweenstates.
How were they even sharing thisinformation?
It's impressive, to say theleast, like I'm impressed.
They found it that quick andthey, you know they were able to
shut it down and clean it and,you know, do something or other
(41:46):
with it, but it was.
Yeah, that's a great analogy tothat and it's like at first, you
know, maybe with COVID and thisis just me, you know, john Q,
public COVID vaccines it allseemed well-intentioned, and
maybe a lot of the experts andpublic health officials and you
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know, maybe there was some.
Okay, maybe this vaccine doeswork or maybe these mandates do
work.
There's a period where you'regiven maybe a little more leeway
or forgiveness for beingwell-intentioned or not having
all the information and justtrying to make some decision,
like, okay, we don't know what'shappening, let's do something.
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But then there's a point whereyou cross that line and that's
with anything.
You can claim ignorance to somepoint you know, but then yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But now, after this and you know, naomi Wolf had put
out that thing where they hadsome FOIA information and CDC
communications, not CDCgovernment communications
between CDC, fda, nih, surgeonGeneral Fauci Lewinsky, all
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those people those FOIAinformation things showed that
they knew in May of 2021 thatthese vaccines were causing
myocarditis and blood clotissues.
This was about the time when,early on I mean I was I
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estimated it was somewhere nearMay.
It could have been, you know,march or April, but in early
2021 is when I started noticingthese abnormal clotting issues.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Well, and the?
First vaccines came out in whatwas it?
November, december, like a verylimited release, or you know,
that was the tier one.
People, the priority people.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
It was.
It was in late December 2020,but it really started coming out
in January of 2021.
And I noticed early in 2021,something was something.
The blood clotting was goingcrazy and I was noticing.
You know, I usually estimateMay but, like I said, it's
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probably earlier than that,maybe as early as March or April
, but if I knew it and then hereit is.
You know I don't remember whenthis came out from Naomi Wolfe,
it was sometime in latter 23,.
They knew the White House andall of those they knew in 2021,
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in May I think the date on therewas May 24th or 25th of 2021,
they knew of the myocarditis,the heart issues and the blood
clotting.
If they knew that in May of2021, that's prior to the
mandate, matt.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I remember hearing about it through, I wouldn't say
, mainstream media, but I doremember there was a little bit
of mainstream concern orreporting on the myocarditis and
I don't know if that they weretrying to attribute that to the
virus or the vaccine.
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But that's just my memory ofthat time.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
They did try to make it sound like it was from the
virus.
But the problem is is thoseFOIA documents said it was from
the vaccine.
This is why had they stoppedthis, matt, in the beginning.
If they had stopped this in May, when those communications were
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going on and they knew thatthere was a blood clotting issue
happening and heart issueshappening, if they would have
stopped it back then I wouldhave given them just as much
grace as you were giving them alittle bit ago.
But because they knew it priorto the mandate and continue to
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push it and push it.
And then you remember how thepresident said he was losing his
patience with those that werenot getting vaccinated that was
a little weird.
That was a little weird Tells meit's nefarious.
And now they're trying to makeit sound like oh, side effects
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can happen, but it's extremelyrare, matt.
I'm telling you, these clotsthat I'm finding I already I'm
90 plus 90, way up high in the90% chance believe that these
are related to the vaccine.
When these clots are linked tothe vaccine 100% there's no
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denying it, which, in my opinion, it's almost already there, but
I'm not the scientist and thedoctor to make that final call.
That means without thissubstance in these people's
bodies would they have livedlonger?
Yeah, and that means withoutthe.
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If that's the case, then thatmeans their early demise or
their pre, their early deathcould be attributed to this
foreign substance floatingaround in their body.
And that means the vaccine wouldhave been responsible for the
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deaths of untold, uncountablenumbers of people.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
So, and just to be clear too, you never saw any of
this before, or was it something?
Is it something you'd seerarely?
Would you see something similarto this before?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
or just never, I've never seen these types of clots.
I'm familiar with what somewhat's called chicken fat clots
Chicken fat clots we call themthat because that's what they
look like.
They look like little balls ofchicken fat or little chunks of
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fat, like when you're cleaningyour chicken or getting ready to
cook your chicken and you knowthat little grisly like not
grisly, but little fat stuffthat up underneath the skin.
You know that's what chickenfat clots look like.
And I'm also familiar with someof the larger clots that are a
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little bit more gummy or theystick together a little bit more
, but they're still very red,they're very slick.
You can you can pull them outwith your four sets and some of
them you can get that are fairlylong, but they they're not
strong.
You cannot take a couple oflocking four sets and attach it
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to them and hold it up in theair and that kind of strength it
falls apart.
Well, and that's where you saythe fibrous, that's where that
yeah, that's where these thesethings are fibrous and sometimes
they're it's almost like arubber band.
You can literally stretch itand that video that went viral,
that's, you can see me andstretch it.
That is not normal.
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That is totally not normal.
And the other thing that's notnormal is I don't hardly ever
recall seeing clots in arteriesand the thing about the ones in
the arteries, not is number one.
You just hardly would never seea clot, and if you did, it was
usually from a body that hadbeen dead for a long time, and
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and some of the blood that wasin the artery might gel up like,
like, like grape jelly, yeah,like a blood clot, yeah.
But I've got an image that thatI had taken and I put a
yardstick next to it.
It was 33 inches long, mattHoly, shi and, and that came
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from the artery, and next to itI had another clot that was not
quite as long but it was thickerand it came from the vein right
next to that artery.
Now what's striking is theyboth have that white fibrous
strand running down the lengthof them.
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Yeah, that's what's alarming.
And clots typically happen onthe venous side, where the
pressure is lower.
There's the, the blood doesn'tmove as fast In the artery.
The reason why clots are rarein arteries is because there's
pressure in the artery.
Your, your heart is pumping andit's forcing that blood, it's
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shooting that blood, moving it.
Okay, it doesn't have time, Ithink you know it doesn't have
time to coagulate.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
It doesn't yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
It's constantly moving.
It's on the high pressure side,you know, if you think about it
, do you get you're in your, inyour plumbing, right?
Do?
Do the clogs happen necessarilyon the side where you turn the
spigot on and the water comesout?
No, yeah, it happens throughyour drink, where it's slower
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and it can accumulate and andstuff can accumulate and gum up.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
I, I, I could see that.
I mean, yeah, well, let's, Imean we've kind of covered that.
I guess the next thing like theclot part of it, the next thing
I guess is what have you kindof have you dealt with?
We talked a little bit aboutthe censorship and you know
(51:51):
stuff either being flagged orremoved.
Have you dealt with any otherkind of I mean, you're speaking
out about this harassment orthreats or any kind of
government actions.
Have you had anything going onwith that?
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Well, I, I, I, I, I lost work with one funeral home.
This funeral home was acorporate run funeral home and
the manager is all concernedabout publicity and blowback and
was not, was not happy about it, so we ended ties there.
(52:35):
Now, this same manager,somebody that I've known for,
you know, 20 years, you know hewas pro mandate, pro vaccine.
He was all in and I and hewouldn't even say things like
what's happening, why are somany younger people dying?
I don't, I don't understandwhat's happening, but he was,
(52:57):
you know, he was always tryingto find excuses and he saw the
clots too, but he was trying tomake excuses saying well, you
know, it's about medications,you know there's so many people
and all.
And then there's this you know,fentanyl is all this stuff.
That's going on, and I'm likeyou realize what you're saying
is that you would have tobasically say that everybody
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that has these clots are on thesame exact drugs.
And I said I find that hard tobelieve, I'm sorry, I don't buy
it, and it doesn't necessarilymatter whether they're older or
younger.
I had an individual that I'veI've known again back from when
I was even in mortuary school.
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He had, he had, we had got ontothis topic and he said that the
where he was working, the FDA,had contacted him in reference
to me to find out if I was alegitimate person or am I real.
And he said, oh yeah, he's realand all that stuff.
(54:01):
So I know the FDA knows aboutme.
I mean, obviously, why wouldthey call this person and ask if
I, if I'm a real person, so andso that's there as far as the
FDA or CDC or anybody contactedme directly?
No, nobody's contacted medirectly.
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There's always going to behaters out there that are going
to try to make me sound like I'm.
They're gaslighting me to makeit sound like, oh, these things
are always.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Well, and what I saw was you were they try to pile
everyone into the oh yeah,anti-vax.
Well, he's just anti-vax, andyou know, I saw that just quick,
a quick Google search.
Is, you know, trying todiscredit it with this anti-vax
thing which, just that, lacks somuch nuance?
(54:53):
It's just like, okay, you don'thave to agree with everything.
Like, okay, maybe you can saysome shots, maybe I'll take some
shots, I won't.
But when they just, oh, you'reanti-vax, it's like saying
you're a flat earther, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Isn't that interesting?
Because there is a part of menow going back wishing I would
have never allowed my doctor toconvince me to get the annual
flu shot for the last number ofyears.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
So you have taken vaccines.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Sure, yeah, I've taken that.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I was never an anti-vax.
You took every vaccine thatprobably most people had.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
To a point, and so to call you anti-vax.
It's just so lazy.
Instead of trying to defend or,you know, argue back your
position or find some otherreason, or research it and
figure out what the fuck it isLike.
(55:58):
How about you figure out whatthe fuck this is and if it's?
A hoax find out that it's ahoax, find out that you're
putting shoestring in there.
Whatever the case is, you think.
But to just say anti-vax, it'sa bunch of anti-vax, it's so
lazy.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
They call Steve Kersh an anti-vaxer and he had the
vaccine.
It doesn't matter with themanymore, but you know the hate
pieces that are out there.
I mean, what's a shame is, youknow?
The fact was the very first hitpiece on me and that was like
within days after me publiclyspeaking out.
(56:38):
They find and now I've Googlesearched Richard Hirschman and
Bomber.
The first thing.
I don't know how much stuffyou're going to have to read
through all these hit piecestrying to discredit me.
It's the whole first page.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
It's the whole first page of you know fact checkers,
and they don't even defend thepoint.
They say, well, this probablyisn't true or accurate, but
they're not disproving it either.
Nobody's disproving Like I'msure you'd be.
(57:15):
Like, fucking, figure it out,tell me it's something else, I
don't care.
Like, figure out, it's not thevaccine, figure out it's fucking
micro plastics in water orfrogs or something.
Doritos, tell me it's something.
But if you're going to put allthis time and effort into just
trying to discredit the entiremovement that questions the
(57:40):
vaccine, take that money, takethat time and figure out what
the fuck is going on.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
You know those you know, and some of those I you
know, I know some of those youknow.
They're attached touniversities.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying,that's all, and one of the
things that's from a university.
This university paper publishedthis thing, basically
discrediting everything about me.
And again, you know, they don'tknow, I mean on one hand I
(58:15):
would love to have one of theseambulance chaser.
Awesome attorneys.
You know the people thatdefended people like Sandman.
You know that young man down onthe floor that you know CNN
discredited and get someattorneys and put some
defamation of character lawsuitsagainst these people.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Put some teeth to it.
Make them prove their claims.
If you can prove the, claimit's not slander and defam and
like prove it.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
But they don't they.
All they do is attack, theyattack and.
I'm not important.
The message is more important.
Yeah, they're having a hardtime and one of the reasons I
think that this story iscontinuing to grow is because a
(59:05):
picture is worth a thousandwords.
You hear all these doctorstalking about the problems with
the vaccine and the spikeprotein and how it attacks the
immune system and the IG and theteeth cells and all this other
stuff.
I'm an average person,including myself.
I glaze over all thatinformation.
(59:27):
It doesn't say anything to me.
No, but you can read all overthe place of these people with
blood clot issues and when Ishow these images of these clots
that I'm finding, that iswhat's getting people like you
know you don't have to be amedical expert to look at this
(59:48):
and say this don't look right.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
That's exactly what I did when I saw it.
I looked at it and I mean totry to bring some awareness, to
get someone to look at it.
I'm sure that's what you wanted.
You want someone to look at itand say what the hell is this?
And to get their attention.
I mean that was the perfect wayto do.
(01:00:13):
It was to show them Like you canjust walk around talking about
how you don't like the vaccineand how you're finding weird
things, but to actually showthem.
And yeah, so my listeners canpick it up If they go to your
Twitter.
You're saying they can stillfind your ex let's say ex, it's
(01:00:36):
ex now.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah, ex it is.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
So if they go to Richard Hirshman on ex and
you're saying these videos arestill up, but you have to have a
log in.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yeah, it sounds like, because I've sent this to again
.
I've sent other things thatI've shared to friends of mine
that don't have a Twitteraccount.
They can go and see the otherthings that I shared, but when
it comes to that video that Ishared, so you think, ex just
(01:01:16):
age restricted it, or something.
I don't think the agerestricted it.
I think what they did is theyrestricted it only to ex users
and I don't know, maybe there'ssomething nefarious about it or
maybe they're users.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I think that's an age restriction and some I haven't
been able to get my personalTwitter account or ex account
for a year.
It's been locked up fraud.
Maybe somebody tried to hack it.
I can't get it back.
We have one for the show, butyeah, that's a struggle.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
If you got one to the show, you should be able to see
it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You know what I think ?
I was looking on my ownpersonal phone and I wasn't
signed into the shows because mywife kind of has that on her
phone.
So I was like yeah, so I'veseen other things that have been
maybe sensitive content orviolence or something like that,
(01:02:15):
where you have to be signed in,where I can't see it, but then
if I go on my wife's or one ofthe businesses then we can see
it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
But yeah, Well, these people that I know they were
able to see it until somethinghappened and they took it down,
so was I.
For the people that arelistening.
If you that video I posted onFebruary 18th and I got again,
(01:02:47):
it was over 20 million views injust two days.
Now, at this point, it saysit's only been viewed 20.7
million.
How do you go from 20 millionviews in two days and it just
comes to a screech and a halt?
I mean, that's what we get inclose to two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Yeah, there's usually an exponential growth.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yes, now it's possible that Twitter may have
utilized this as a way.
For those people who don't havean ex account, the only way to
see it is for them to sign upfor an ex account.
Yeah, which is kind of funny orweird, but I'm not monetized.
(01:03:30):
I don't have anything that'smonetized at all.
Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I never saw You're not selling anything.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I'm not selling anything, so they can't
demonetize me because I'm notmonetized.
And I do that on purpose,because I don't want anybody to
ever think that this is to tryto-.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
You don't wanna be bought and paid for.
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I don't wanna be bought and paid for absolutely.
This is a spiritual thing forme.
I feel like I have anobligation to humanity to expose
what I'm seeing, because,because this is potentially
gonna affect humanity as a whole, I mean all of us.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Well, that's the right place to start and
unfortunately, so many peopleout there are.
I mean if they have a platformand millions of followers,
they're scared to death aboutgetting demonetized,
deplatformed.
That's their living, and we sawthat with the first wave of
(01:04:36):
people questioning mandates andvaccines back in 21.
I mean, people who might havedisagreed with it wouldn't speak
out against it, they wouldn'tquestion it, and it's not like.
I mean, you gotta be able toquestion stuff and thank God you
(01:04:56):
know our most popular platforms, or our audio podcast platforms
.
They don't censor us, which isreally great, I mean that's.
You know we can put this onthere.
They're not gonna have aproblem with it, and they
shouldn't.
And they seem to have chilledout a little bit on the
(01:05:19):
censorship and now people arestarting to be able to talk
about it.
I mean, you couldn't haveposted that video on what was
Twitter two years ago?
No way.
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I wasn't on Twitter two years ago.
I didn't trust Twitter backthen and the only reason I
opened a Twitter account in Mayof 23.
So that's not even been a yearyet, and the only reason why I
did is cause, after Elon Musktook over, everybody was saying
how it's different.
Now you can be, there's morefree speech, but I noticed
(01:05:54):
there's not.
I mean, it is freer than others, but it's not totally free
speech.
It's crazy how they try tocontrol your thought and it's a
shame when we things are rightin front of us.
(01:06:16):
They're trying to changeeverything that you believe and
unfortunately, they're creatingmore conspiracy theorists and
their mind than they arepreventing it.
Because by telling me that Idon't know what I'm looking at,
I mean, they're trying to tellme there are some of these
(01:06:37):
people, these haters out there.
Some of them are doctors.
Oh, these are just, you know,some kind of a fat emulous or
something like that.
I've been in bombing for 23years.
The first 20 years I've been inbombing.
You can't tell me I don't knowwhat I'm looking at.
It almost reminds me of thatbook, 1984.
(01:07:00):
Yeah, that, when they're tryingto convince Winston, the guy in
the book, that two plus two isfive.
Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's prophetic and they're
gonna beat you into submission.
This isn't the first timeeither.
I mean, history always repeatsitself.
This isn't the first timethey've tried to control thought
and information, that thepowers that be right.
I mean.
This has existed in othercountries, other societies China
did it, soviet Union did it,north Korea does it.
(01:07:29):
We've done it at differenttimes.
You know, the Nazis certainlydid it, japan did it.
It's not a new story.
So my other question is so doyou?
Are you self-employed, so tospeak?
Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yes, I am, and that might be one of the reasons.
Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, I think that's a big reason and I'm seeing that
just in my podcast.
For people about any subject, Ihave an impossible time getting
an employee of anything itcould be a cop, it could be a
theme park employee, it could besomeone in a corporation to
(01:08:14):
come on.
Even most of my guests areanonymous You're actually the
first one that isn't anonymousbut I can't even have them come
on with their voice changed andI can't see them.
It's amazing how scared peopleare.
Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I was given the option to be anonymous in the
beginning.
Yeah, yeah, and I was given thewarning.
Hey, you understand, you don'tknow what's gonna happen, and
this is a big industry and allthis other stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Well, you're out about it, which is amazing.
And you can be because you'reself-employed, right?
Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
What are they gonna take from?
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
you.
Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I didn't trust anonymous sources, though After
the last.
You just look at mainstreammedia for the last, I don't know
, almost 10 years, anonymoussources, this anonymous source,
and then you find out none of itwas true.
So who trusts anonymous sources?
And I didn't trust anonymoussources and I'm like no, I know
what.
I know.
(01:09:21):
I went and I tried to research,I tried to sit there and I've
spoke out to other morticians.
I knew I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
And I wasn't gonna go out there and just anonymously
say something.
Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
No, I'm putting my attention on the line.
Yeah, I'm putting my attentionon the line and it says a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
And it says a lot that you're not promoting
anything.
It says a lot that you're notmonetized, that you're not
selling anything, because somany people I mean, I don't know
if you listen to a lot ofpodcasts they need to promote
themselves and that's the onlyreason they're coming on is to.
They don't care about themessage, they don't care about
(01:10:05):
what they're doing.
They want more subscribers ormore book sales or more or
whatever, and it's-.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I respect that, though I mean it's true that
people that have podcasts andthey need monetization in order
to make a living I don't do thisfor a living.
Well, I'm talking more aboutthe guests I'm talking about-.
Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, like there's doctors that'll speak to
me about various differentthings, but they're all
monetized and they're selling abook or they're trying to
promote a documentary.
So you know there's definitely adifference of motivation, not
(01:10:48):
that you can't have you know,good information and the right
thoughts and the right thingsand still make money.
I don't have a problem withthat at all.
But you can tell when peopleare very obviously just trying
to find a niche and talk aboutsomething, exploit it and get
(01:11:09):
themselves exposure.
So that's the other end of it,which is why we did a lot of our
guest anonymous was like wewere trying to get away from
that.
And also you can't talk toemployees Like I can't talk to a
cop and get them to be realwith me and honest with me when
(01:11:30):
his name and face are attachedto it.
So how the hell do we get thosestories?
So that's the reason we do someof that.
But you know you get.
I mean, you're a diamond in therough as far as that.
that's concerned, where you know, you're not worried about the
blowback, which is great, it'sfantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Yeah, I can't.
I have to answer to God, matt,and I honestly feel like I've
been put in this position for areason, and I don't understand
why, because I'm just a regularperson like anybody else.
Yet there's something inside ofme, even before I came public,
(01:12:17):
in those, especially that lastcouple of weeks, I had to speak.
It was like something inside ofme wasn't allowing me to sit
easy.
I wasn't able to sleep well, Ihad to speak.
I had to sit there and sharethis and I didn't know how to go
(01:12:40):
about doing it.
It just happened.
I tried reaching out Before Iwas public.
I went public in January 26 or27.
It was on the Dr Jane Ruby show, but I screen captured an email
(01:13:07):
response that I was given tothis other person.
I won't name who it is, but Iscreen captured.
It was January 19th of 2022.
I screen captured at 11.55 am.
Okay, and I ran across this acouple of weeks ago and it was
(01:13:28):
to a place that I was trying toget this information to
important people in hopes thatthey would try to look into it,
and I went to them I said thankyou, I will try to get
information best I can.
I'm okay with you sharing thisinformation and my phone number.
I have taken over 30 pictureseach from different bodies.
(01:13:51):
This was early on.
I had 30 pictures, just over 30pictures.
I'm careful not to takepictures of personal identifying
features because I'm trying notto get myself in trouble.
But I am concerned about thisand I feel that if someone can
figure out what this is andwhat's causing it, maybe it will
(01:14:12):
save lives.
I took some of the quoteunquote worms, because that's
what I was calling it, becausethat's what it looks like
sometimes.
Yeah, to a medical school.
And then they said they'd neverseen anything like it.
I said that they're going tolook at it under a microscope
but they're limited on what theycan do.
(01:14:32):
I screen captured this becausepeople need to understand that
the whole concern of mine, evenback then, was my concern for
humanity.
My hopes was that whatever thisis these worms or these things
(01:14:53):
are, which I was calling themworms I don't do that anymore
because now everybody wants tosay they're parasites, but it
was to figure out what this isand what's causing it.
It maybe will save lives.
It was about saving lives.
Something's wrong.
I know there's something wrongand if we don't investigate it,
(01:15:14):
who knows how many people thiswill affect?
Is this an underlying issue,Like we were talking earlier?
Is this why there are so manydifferent variations of adverse
effects?
Some people having memory loss,Some people are having strokes,
Some people having heartattacks, domicils, cancers, all
(01:15:36):
these different side effects Is?
Are these aberrant, abnormal?
Whatever proteins, whateverthis stuff is that I'm seeing?
Is this just nothing more thana sign of something in the blood
that is wrong?
We gotta get to the bottom ofit.
(01:15:56):
Not for humanity, I mean notfor me, it's for humanity.
I have family members andfriends.
Some are vaccine injured, Someare fine.
I don't understand why somepeople are okay and some people
aren't.
I don't get it.
I don't understand.
It's not my place to understand.
(01:16:16):
All I know is this is abnormal.
This showed up all of a suddenin early 2021.
It has not stopped.
Sometimes it's worse thanothers.
Some people have large ones,Some people have smaller ones,
but there's something haschanged in the blood and instead
of having only you know maybetwo out of 10 bodies that are
(01:16:39):
clotted, now it's like eight ornine bodies out of 10 have
clotting issues.
Jesus, we're totally backwardsfrom the way things used to be.
Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Yeah, Well, your motivations are certainly in the
right place, it seems, and,like I said before, that speaks
volumes.
So people listening to that, Imean you don't stand to gain
anything besides criticism.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Oh, and I've got lots of criticism.
Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Just look at.
Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Google.
Yeah, I mean, imagine if I wereto try to get a job today.
Oh, I know A lot of employers.
Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
They look you up, they try to do a Google search
on you.
Yeah, imagine me trying to geta job now.
Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
That speaks volumes.
I mean there's nothing to gainbut criticism and I appreciate
that.
You know God bless you for that.
It's something you feel neededto be told and you put your neck
out there for no good reasonotherwise, but to help and to
(01:17:51):
try to draw attention, and Ithink, when it's all said and
done, more people need to speakup about this, and somebody who
has the capabilities and theequipment and the research, the
knowledge, needs to fucking lookinto this and look into what's
(01:18:16):
going on, because it's notnormal.
Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
So I thank you for coming on and talking with me,
really appreciate it, man.
Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Hey, my pleasure, man .
Hopefully others will speak out.
We have to.
The politicians are the onesthat I'm really upset with,
because they exempted themselvesfrom this stuff.
They know the issues, but theydid not do anything to protect
(01:18:52):
the individual's right andfreedom to say no to this
experimental vaccine, and theycontinue to push this.
This should have been taken offthe market a long time ago, and
even if they didn't take it offthe market.
it should have never been forcedor coerced on the population to
(01:19:13):
take something that was soexperimental and now,
unfortunately, we're going to besuffering the long-term
consequences, as we learnthrough time of the side effects
and the long-term effects.
Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Well that's right.
Of course the governmentexempted themselves, or the
politicians.
I mean, what did Woodragan say?
You know what's?
The scariest thing you can hearis hi, I'm from the government,
I'm here to help.
Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Yeah Well, thanks again.
It's been a fantastic interviewand we really appreciate you
coming on and hopefully somebodyfucking looks into this shit
and hopefully we get some changeout of it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Yep, that's my hope.
That's my hope.
Thank you, matt.
Appreciate it, you're welcome.
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