Trump Convicted: What The Hell Just Happened?

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In this special mini-episode, Matt Bender takes us through a historical lens to draw parallels between the tactics of Lavrentiy Beria under Stalin's regime and the recent conviction of former President Donald Trump in New York. Matt unpacks the chilling quote, "Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime," to explore how power structures have used legal systems to suppress dissent and opposition throughout history.

Matt delves into the presumption of innocence enshrined in the U.S. Constitution, contrasting it with Beria's method of fabricating crimes to imprison millions. He raises questions about the integrity of modern legal proceedings and the broader implications for American democracy. Drawing on historical examples from Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, and other oppressive regimes, Matt warns of the dangers of villainizing dissent and the potential consequences for ordinary citizens.

This episode is a call to action for unity and vigilance against the encroaching power structures that seek to divide and control. With references to Martin Niemöller's poignant words and a passionate plea for justice, Matt emphasizes the importance of standing together against tyranny.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.
That was a quote by LavrentiyBurya, who served with the
Soviet secret police underJoseph Stalin all the way up
until his death in 1953.
That man was credited with theexpansion of the infamous Soviet
gulags that were used toimprison and torture all of

(00:24):
Stalin's political rivals andopponents.
From the Redacted Podcast, I'mMatt Bender, and this is a
special mini-episode.
What the Hell Just Happened,thank you.

(01:11):
Former President Trump wasconvicted in New York in an
unprecedented and unusual case.
By all accounts, the quote Iread at the beginning seemed to
fit, given the circumstances,and I'm not going to get into
the party politics or legalspecifics of the case.
A lot of people have alreadydone that.
I wanted to do somethingdifferent, a history lesson

(01:36):
perhaps.
So before you turn off thisepisode and unsubscribe it, at
least give it a chance and hearme out.
So what Buria meant by thatquote the one that he loved to
brag about so much is that hewould first find the target or
the man, and then he would findor even fabricate the crime
after the fact, the whole whilepresuming the man guilty and

(01:59):
just filling in the blanks later.
It was an effective tactic tothe tune of 20 million prisoners
over Stalin's tenure, 2 millionof which would die in those
camps.
The fact is, most of those 20million prisoners were there
simply for opposing Stalin'sregime.
By stark contrast under theUnited States Constitution.

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By stark contrast, under theUnited States Constitution, we
have this presumption ofinnocence, and that comes from
our 5th, 6th and 14th Amendments.
This was decided in a famouscase Coffin v US.

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Unlike Buria's method, usprosecutions are supposed to
start anyways.
With the discovery or reportingof a crime, there's an
investigation to find out orconfirm the identity of the
perpetrator and collect evidenceto prove his or her guilt.
In the case of Donald Trump,that clearly didn't happen.
Love him or hate him, you can'tdeny that.
Now I don't like to getpolitical on my show and,
frankly, team sport, partypolitics and talking heads,

(03:10):
social media influencers andpolitical pundits just kind of
make me sick.
The disgusting instigators thatbrought about this mess in
American politics in the firstplace.
But this is something more thanthat.
At the present time, I do havea platform, a modest one at that
, and although the powers thatbe have even tried to shut us

(03:33):
down a few times already, I feela sense of duty to use my
platform in an instance likethis to call out the evil that I
see in the world, the injustice.
That's the whole reason Istarted this show To give the
little guy a place to talk, todecentralize those narratives
that the few seem to control.

(03:54):
I served this nation in a timeof war in the US Army and spent
time in Afghanistan.
I have young children andfamily and friends.
I care about that.
Live in this country.
I have businesses here that Idepend on for survival, so I
care about that.
Live in this country.
I have businesses here that Idepend on for survival.
So I care a lot about whathappens here, as most of us
probably do.

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But the truth is many in SovietRussia supported that mass
imprisonment at the time.
They were made to believe bythe media and government that
the offenders were scoundrelsset to destroy their country.
The ordinary folks had jobs andfamilies to protect, so
speaking out against the powersthat be could result in

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censorship, ridicule or, worse,to be counted among those in the
gulag.
This isn't just Soviet Russia.
The same could be said aboutNazi Germany or Maoist China,
north Korea and every otheroppressive regime that has ever
existed, villainizing and tryingto silence dissent and

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opposition by using the power oflaw is not new by any means,
and it's happening right beforeour eyes.
Martin Niemöller was a GermanLutheran pastor during World War
II and in the 1930s.
In the early part anyway, hewas actually sympathetic and he

(05:18):
sided with Hitler and ratheragreed with his Nazi ideology.
But after Hitler came to powerand he saw how he used that
power to crush his oppositionand dissent, martin Niemöller
actually became an outspokencritic of the oppressive regime.
Niemöller spent the last eightyears in concentration camps and

(05:42):
is credited with writing thefollowing after his experience
First they came for thecommunist and I did not speak
out because I was not acommunist.
Then they came for the socialistand I did not speak out because
I was not a socialist.
And then they came for thetrade unionist and I did not

(06:06):
speak out because I was not atrade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,and I did not speak out because
I was not a Jew.
But then they came for me andthere was no one left to speak
out for me.
Now I know that whether it besocial media or the banking

(06:31):
system, corporatism, governmentor the law, eventually they're
going to come for me too, theway things are going.
I'm independent, unplugged,unsponsored.
I'm not part of their system.
I give a voice to the ordinarypeople and I oppose the
celebrity class.
The ordinary people and Ioppose the celebrity class.

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They shadow, ban me and cancelme and try to make my life
difficult every single chancethey get.
They don't like me and it'sonly a matter of time.
They'll come for you too.
This isn't conspiracy.
This isn't new.
It's all been done before andthis trial is a big step forward
towards that.
The enemy of my enemy is myfriend.

(07:18):
That's a quote attributed tomany authors dating back
thousands of years, and it'skind of a basic concept of human
nature.
I think it's blatantly obviousin today's world that there's a
status quo the 1%, the system,the man or whatever you want to

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call it.
There's a group text messageamong the powers that be that
decide on stock markets andelection results, global affairs
and wars, and you or I are notpart of it, and they like it
that way, and they aren't eventrying to hide it anymore.
They're brazen and sloppy intheir tyranny.

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They don't care about your race, gender, sexual orientation or
even your political party.
They supersede all of that andthey only use it as a tool when
it's convenient.
They only care about power andkeeping that power, and they
will crush anyone who stands intheir way.

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Those who toe the line, so tospeak, will be allowed to exist.
For now, anyway, these are thesame old clowns in our history
books, just wearing differentmakeup, and they think we're so
dumb and naive and that we can'tsee the man behind the curtain.

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We can.
This power, this man, thisthing, this system.
It doesn't have headquarters ormembership cards or monthly
meetings.
It's not officially organizedin the literal sense, but it
comes together naturally.
The way corruption and powergravitate towards each other.

(09:11):
You know it, you feel it, yousee it.
It's the banks that foreclosedon your grandma's house but take
that government bailout moneythemselves.
It's the hospital groups andhealth insurance companies that
forced your uncle to declarebankruptcy.
It's the media and techcompanies that brainwash our

(09:32):
children, play God and pick thewinners and losers.
It's rising housing and techcompanies that brainwash our
children, play God and pick thewinners and losers.
It's rising housing and collegecosts.
It's the oil companies anddefense contractors that send
our young men and women to diein pointless wars.
It's the pharmaceuticalcompanies that sit in boardrooms
and decide whether or not yourmom can afford her medication
next month.
It's the court system, unjustlaws, private prisons.

(09:54):
It's inflation and your doubledgrocery bill over the last two
years.
It's the politicians and thebureaucrats in Washington that
are supposed to be protectingyou and keeping them all in line
and regulating them, butinstead they just retire from
public service, take cushypositions at Facebook or JP
Morgan as a reward for servingtheir masters.

(10:17):
And you know what they all havein common, every single one of
them they don't like DonaldTrump.
That, right there, tells meeverything I need to know.
They don't like him and theyare doing everything in their
power to stop him and make amockery out of our justice

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system.
And it's not working.
The man, the system, the powerstructure that is the enemy, the
enemy of our enemies, andtherefore Donald Trump may be
our only friend.
I'll leave you with this.
In a speech a few months ago,when all this trial business

(10:59):
began, he said something thatkind of stuck with me.
He said they're not comingafter me, they're coming after
you, and I just happen to bestanding in their way.
This is all of us, the 99%together white, black, gay,

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straight Republican, democrat,young and old.
This is our country, ourjustice system and our future.
We cannot let them try todivide us and we cannot let them
try to take this from us.
God bless America.
Stay safe.
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