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February 13, 2025 • 44 mins

Super Bowl LIX just happened this past weekend and a lot of opinions are circulating online about Kendrick Lamar's Halftime Show.

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(00:00):
F***ing mission impossible.

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What was it?
8, 9?
At this point the mission is definitely possible man.
Come on man.
It's possible.
It's all possible.
Mission highly probable.
Somewhat difficult.
Alright, here we go.
Ready?
We're going in 10 seconds.
Starting in 5, 4, 3, 2.

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What's up everybody?
This is the Red Band Podcast.
Your source for all film and TV related news and topics.
I am your host Anthony King.
And of course with me tonight is my co-host.
Adrian G. Fuentes.
And sitting over there in the control room is our technical director Mike Card.
Yeah.
Mike, you happy?
Eagles!

(00:56):
I was spiked on the audio right there.
I just heard that last one.
I wonder if I can see the...
Ah, it's already passed.
It's clipped.
Everything's just clipped.
Oh, it definitely clipped dude.
All you hear is just...
Yeah man, Eagles won!
F*** yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Is this like a room just full of chief haters or?
Yeah, pretty much.
That's what it is.

(01:17):
100%.
It's a chief or Mahone haters.
All of the above.
This is all of it.
I've never prayed on the downfall of a team so hard before.
Did they win last year?
Yeah.
So this is the third time that Eagles have met them in the Super Bowl I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They got their revenge.
They got it back.
100%.
They studied the tapes.
That was a blowout man.

(01:38):
The refs had no help.
Gave no help whatsoever to the chiefs.
The chiefs actually had to play on their own footing.
Which was nothing.
It kind of felt like they were giving little pity passes towards the end where they were
like, alright you can at least have some points.
Or I could fully blow you out.
I mean, at that point you had your second stringers playing.
So that way everyone had a chance to play in the Super Bowl.

(02:01):
But also the fact of like, hey man, if something gets intercepted don't worry about it.
Just take it as like a live practice session.
So basically they allowed Rudy on the field.
Yeah they allowed Rudy.
They allowed Rudy.
Don't worry champ.
Come on, just try your hardest.
Shit, they were carrying off the second string.
Hey, remember, you're a champion just from being here.

(02:24):
That's right.
Oh shit, I was waiting for like the one dad that didn't show up to any of the games to
show up on the field and be like, I'm proud of you boy.
And do like that whole hug.
Then we finally get the capture to see where they're at now.

(02:46):
Hell yeah.
Yes, but this week we're going to be covering over of course is what happened during the
Super Bowl.
They halftime of course with Kendrick Lamar and of course all the movie trailers they
released.
But first we're going to go over to our smaller field news.
Yeah.
So what we got here first, Pharrell Williams is actually canceling that, what was that,

(03:08):
the movie, right?
No, no, no, no.
It was another one.
It was another biopic.
Yeah.
So already while it is in post-production, that's unheard of because that was supposed
to be released in, I think, May, right?
Yeah.
Just in a few months, right?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
What happened with this?
Why are they scrapping it so late in the game?
And this is universal.

(03:29):
This is not like a Warner Brothers.
So that would make sense if it was like a Warner Bros project.
Yes.
And apparently it was casted with...
Halle Berry.
Halle Berry was in it.
With chart toppers and Oscar winners, including Kevin.
This is Kevin Harris Jr. Halle Berry.
Yeah.
You got Brian Tyree Henry.
You got Janelle Monod, Missy Elliott, like Anderson Paak.

(03:51):
Like you had a lot of people in this.
So what happened?
Did they say what happened?
Why they canceled this?
They just, are they trying to get some money?
Was it too expensive?
Were the reviews not...
Apparently, for Williams, for our Williams, yeah, he goes, say, we all got in the editing
room and collectively decided it wasn't a path going forward to tell the version of this

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story that we originally envisioned.
So in other words, it just wasn't up to their expectations.
And they spend roughly $20 million already.
Damn.
So they looked at, they might have like a rough cut or look at the footage and like,
it's not worth going back for reshoots.
And they probably just like, screw it.
Let's just scrap it and let's do something else.

(04:37):
Yeah.
But that's, like I said, it's very unfortunate.
This is stuff that usually does happen with many projects in Hollywood.
I mean, how many things that we hear get shot and then they get canceled all the time.
For the most part, like I said, for most cases, what we hear from Warner Brothers, those are
usually financial gangs.
They're trying to up, you know, trying to clear out that debt so they'll produce these

(04:57):
full projects then write them off for tax incentives.
But this sounds like it's a lot more of the creators control just not wanting this to
be taken out or be shown to light.
They just had no faith in the project.
Yeah.
So that sucks.
But you know, that's what comes and goes with the business.
All right.
Next one we got here for our film news.

(05:18):
X-Men Marvel Studios is reportedly casting their MCU movie and they have a potential
date looking at late 2027.
So this is supposed to be the next grandeur project for Marvel Studios after the whole
multiverse saga.
They're going to focus straight on X-Men.
It's going to be the mutant saga.

(05:39):
It's going to be a pretty big project.
Huge project.
This is going to be the moneymaker for them because everyone is just waiting for the multiverse
saga to come to like fully die down so they can move forward.
So if the X-Men movie does not do good, if this does not push for the mutant saga, I
don't think Marvel Studios can continue any further.

(05:59):
Oh no.
This is Kevin Feige putting everything into this.
Yeah.
This man is coming up playing with his toys up in that room and just coming up with stories.
He's like, with the cyclops and Wolverine from underneath the desk.
So this is the big swing for the fences.
Like I said, once Secret Wars is done and they can wait just a few years in between

(06:23):
the phases, I think this is going to be probably trying to mark for the first film right after
that phase.
So if this does not hit like they want to hit, my fear about this, if it does hit, we're
going to get like 10 other shows of X-Men on Marvel.

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Do you think they're going to push harder for the Disney plus shows?
That's what I'm afraid of.
That's what I'm afraid of.
They can do because it happened with the Marvel characters where they did well.
So they like, well, we got to push for these shows because we need to time in.
And now if they get the X-Men, of course, X-Men has an expansive universe or at least

(07:07):
hundreds of characters.
Yeah.
Hundreds of characters.
So they could pull any character they want and put them in the world.
I'm afraid we're going to get like 10 other shows of X-Men characters just doing their
thing.
I mean, the smart decision would be have the mutant saga and just focus that with the movies
and all the other random side characters, all the random other side sagas, street levels,

(07:31):
cosmic levels, whatever it is, shows, TV shows.
But as well, please market these things damn correctly because I don't mind getting a teen
drama out of, you know, from the Xavier school.
Just market it as a teen drama.
Tell me it's a teen drama so I don't watch it.
So I don't get pissed off watching it.
That would be a really good decision.

(07:52):
If you want to have like variety within your formats and genres for your Marvel films or
Marvel content, save that for the TV shows.
Have a horror show, have a teen show, have a comedy show, have a full on action show.
You can really versatile, like versify what you have with your catalog, with the TV shows

(08:14):
and you can kind of keep everything the same at least one linear style for the movies.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think that will be a fair compromise between the two.
Not everything has to be the funny quips.
Yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
I'm kind of over the, I'm kind of over the, damn, what the hell was the director for Ragnarok?

(08:36):
What?
What?
Something to do with you.
Damn, that sucks.
Taiki what?
TD?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm kind of tired of that.
Yeah.
I'm kind of tired of that humor.
Yeah, no, no.
I think everyone got tired of that humor real fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it was okay with the Iron Man movies kind of because he's kind of a witty character,
but like with every character for their own standalone movie has their own wit to it.

(08:58):
It's, no, no.
It got tired.
No, what happened was Iron Man as a character was witty.
Everyone around him was not.
Yeah.
So it worked for him and maybe Pepper, you know, here and there, but overall it was just,
he was the only witty one.
Everyone was living in the world.
Guardians of the Galaxy, you had characters who were witty, but again, there were other

(09:18):
characters who were not.
Yeah.
The problem with his films was everyone was witty.
Yeah.
Everyone had wit to them.
Yeah.
Everyone either one line or joke.
Yeah.
So it got a little too much.
So hopefully the X-Men saga, the mutant saga, the mutant saga moving forward for Marvel
Studios, hopefully they can change things up and get something fresh out of this.

(09:41):
This is Kevin Feige's baby.
We know that.
We know how much he loves the X-Men.
So just pull the material from the show.
Like pull the tone from it.
You got to do them right.
You got to do them justice.
Oh yeah.
It's, I mean, we are at least the first two X-Men with live action ones were done pretty
good.
We had a good one and we could debate on it.
The other ones after that, again, we could probably debate back and forth on it.

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But overall, I mean, if you follow just follow the comic books and the animated series just
honestly closely, but just, you know, get the same tone.
Yeah.
You'll get it good.
You'll actually have a good story every time.
And bright yellow spandex.
All right.
Cover over the last bit of film news before we hit our break.
What we have here, Rooster Teeth returns with Bernie Burns purchasing his assets from his

(10:30):
old company.
Damn.
Is he actually going to move forward with rebuilding backup Rooster Teeth from the ground
up again as it was sort of, sort of, he does have a statement put out.
Oh, he does.
He's, he said that I'm excited at the challenge of bringing Rooster Teeth back to its roots.
The heart of this brand has always been its fans.

(10:51):
I look forward to writing a new chapter together.
Nothing as far as was spoken about financial terms of the sale or.
But he hasn't announced any cast or hiring.
Is he going to bring back any of the old people?
Is he going to do new hires?
He talked about that in a podcast that he has and he did talk about it.

(11:12):
So far, the only people attached to the company is him and his wife.
That's it.
No one else.
The only thing is he says he might do not, pretty much it was he asked us not to ask
any of the former employees about the situation.
Got it.
Because no one's going to be brought in essentially because he's working from the ground up, which
means he probably doesn't have a whole lot of assets or money to work with.

(11:32):
So he can't bring back every person.
And on top of that, every other talent is kind of just doing their own thing now.
He says he might, he has plans for doing films.
So he might do actually use as a production studio, not a video game content creating
or anything.
So that means no Achievement Hunter members.
None of the others.

(11:52):
Also, on top of that, too, he owns the Rooster Teeth name, does not own anything beyond that.
He does not own Achievement Hunter Funhouse.
Oh, but the content.
The content from their subsidiaries and smaller channels.
I think he has the content for Rooster Teeth itself because in the podcast he talks about,

(12:13):
he has piles of hard drives that he has to archive.
So anything that was directly under Rooster Teeth, Rooster Teeth by themselves that wasn't
branched out to their other small channels.
Yes, it seems that way.
It's got it.
Yeah.
It says that he acquired the Rooster Teeth brand and its remaining assets, including
the website and social channels.
Yeah.
OK, so he owns that.
He does not own a Ruby that was already sold to Viz.

(12:35):
Genlock I believe was sold to Viz as well.
But also as well, I think a couple of other shows were sold off or Warner probably still
owns them.
Yeah.
But yeah, it looks like he started from the literally from the ground up.
Hey, this is a fresh start.
Like that was my biggest thing that I always complained about Rooster Teeth over the years
is how they kept themselves within the realm of YouTube content only when they can easily

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have just branched out and actually done films.
And they tried before with like laser or laser, whatever, Team Laser, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, with that film.
But then when it didn't get the reception they wanted, they kind of gave that up.
They should have just kept pushing harder and harder to get into that film, because
that's what it seemed like he wanted was to be in the film business.
It feels as if like the films were limited to like YouTube style content films.

(13:26):
Yeah.
But that's how they were marketing though.
As well.
They're not only that, but they're marketing as this is our talent doing the films.
They didn't branch out to other people to work with other teams, other filmmakers, other
actors and actresses.
They kept everything always in house themselves.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
And I think that's where it hurt them.

(13:46):
Yeah.
Like now you can start fresh.
You have actual recognizable name.
You can transform that into an actual full length production company, start working small
with short films and keep building and building and building.
Like as well, he did talk about doing some stuff with online stuff as well, which I think
he's going to hook up with Jeff, the other previous owner, because he's talking about

(14:14):
on Fuckface, they're going to go, oh, they might do something.
Oh, Fuckface.
That's still, no, he has his own thing called Fuckface that he actually bought from Rooster
Teeth.
That's a whole other thing where he started his own podcast under the Rooster Teeth name.
Once it went under, they had to change the name to something else and then he was able
to buy back his name.
Yeah.
Oh my God.

(14:35):
That's pretty good with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's, it looks like he might do something with him.
I just team up again, do some other stuff, but not necessarily, I think, you know, combine
forces and become one company again.
So I think this is actually a pretty smart move for Bernie Burns if he really wants to
go back into film production.
This is smart.
You have the recognizable name, start working with that and bam.

(14:57):
He can actually do something even bigger than what he had beforehand.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we're going to take a quick break and when we come back to you guys, we're going
to cover our main topic, the Super Bowl man.
Bam.
So stay tuned and we'll be right back to you guys.
Here are some smaller film news that couldn't make it in today's segment.

(15:20):
First up, Beyond the Spider-Verse gets pushed back to 2099 with audio recordings set to
start in 2027.
Warner Brothers releases 31 movies for free on YouTube and Deadpool creator Rob Liefeld
cuts ties with Marvel after being embarrassed at the film premiere.
And that's it.
Now back to our schedule program.

(15:43):
And we are back covering over our main topic tonight.
The Super Bowl, man.
What a show.
What a shit show that was for the Chiefs, man.
Jesus Christ.
That was almost complete full blowout.
I felt like towards the end, they started feeling pity for them and then they're like,
all right, you can get some points on the board.

(16:03):
We'll allow it.
Yeah.
They were like, can't be 40 to zero.
It could have.
I would have gone full force.
Fuck it.
Keep first string in.
Yeah.
Slaughter it.
Slaughter all together.
Yeah.
Crush them in points and spirit.
Make sure they never want to come back.
Make sure they never want to come back to this ass whooping ever.

(16:24):
I don't know whose block this is.
Yeah, man.
How do you guys feel about the game, man?
Just the game in general before we get to the halftime and movie trailer.
Game in general, I think.
I mean.
Loved it.
Okay.
As just to see, watch the Chiefs getting their asses beat.
Liked it.
But as for our game, just trying to enjoy the game itself, like, you know, as a viewer.
Just two teams competing against each other.

(16:45):
It sucked, man.
It was just so one-sided that it was, it turned like, at first like, oh, that's cool.
Because you know, they're taking it, you know, they're unable to get past their defense.
It's all right.
But then.
When that just kept happening.
Over and over and over and over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like playing easy mode on Madden.
You're just whooping ass and it's just, eh.
Yeah.

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Mahone's defensive line crumbled.
Dude.
Dude.
That's.
Crumbled.
Those people who, those people who sacked them, that was a vendetta.
That was.
The four men.
Those same four guys.
That was hate.
I think there was like sweat.
I think got two sacks.
Yeah.

(17:26):
On him.
I forgot who else got it.
Someone else got another two sacks on him.
And then somebody else caught like five and then there was like five interceptions.
Yeah.
I'm like, Jesus, dude.
Like what, what the hell?
And then how did you guys feel about the halftime show?
So we had Kendrick Lamar finally show up.
Everyone's been anticipating this for months.
They knew he was going to play not like us.
He finally played not like us.

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Well, at first it was supposed to be advertised that he was not going to play not like us.
Yeah.
Because he would get sued if he did it.
Which I guess the only way, I guess the workaround was not by saying that one word and that's
it.
I mean, of course he's not going to be able to say that on, like we, we already knew that
the song is going to have to be heavily censored because it's Superbowl's TV.
Yeah.

(18:08):
You know, everyone's going to be watching that.
So that made sense.
Yeah.
But the way he just looked at the camera and just directly said Drake's name out.
Yes.
Hey Drake.
But I mean, even before that, like the performance itself was he put a full blown message onto
the whole performance and it starts off with, I think it said America's game.
Yeah.

(18:28):
Oh, it said, Oh yeah.
No, it said, I thought it said start here.
Yeah.
I think, no, no.
Uh, was Sam, was Samuel Jackson when he was in there in the beginning?
Yeah.
So yeah, Sam Jackson playing as uncle Sam.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
You're talking about it's America's game, right?
I won't put him here in that America's game.
Oh yes.
America's game.
Yeah.

(18:48):
Let me see.
Hold on guys.
Oh yeah.
Uh, welcome to the audience to the great American game.
And that was when the lights in the stadium crowd spelled out, start here above a downward
pointing arrow squarely on Lamar kneeling in front of the Buick GNX, which was probably
a nod to his.
The album GNX.
GNX.
Yep.

(19:08):
Which is a very expensive car by the way.
Oh yeah.
Absolutely.
It's a rare car.
It is.
Uh, it made popular in hip hop music because of, um, I'm about to say master P but it's
not master P. It's a former pimp turned rap artist.
He was like, he is like the number one, uh, Mac Daddy Kane.
There you go.

(19:29):
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had a GNX and it became a staple.
Like if you have a GNX, you are there.
Yeah.
Got it.
So, so bro had a GNX on there.
So he was like a staple of like, you're here.
Yes.
And of course he started playing, you know, some of the songs from the album GNX then
eventually brought SZA on to play some of the old songs like stars and then finally
moved on to, you know, not like us and teasing not like us.

(19:53):
He was teasing it throughout the whole thing cause he knew that's what everyone knew.
That was the song everyone was waiting for.
So of course he had to play that at the end and of course it teased it along the way.
Like come on, I knew you guys want me to play this, but you're not going to get this right
off the bat.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here's another thing too.
Supposedly people are kind of debating back and forth on this thing, but the very intro

(20:14):
of the show, you see the floor lighting up back and forth between the X square.
Yes.
The PlayStation.
Supposedly that's the GTA code for full health and armor.
Yeah.
And people are debating back and forth either was intentional or an accident.
I feel like it was definitely intentional because Kendrick has like his affiliations

(20:35):
with, with video game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As his overall like growing up and his youth and his culture.
So I mean, yeah, I would totally say that that was intentional.
So did you guys like the halftime show personally for you guys?
I liked it.
It was okay.
Yeah.
I liked it.
You know, there's, there's always like over the top performances and over the top set
design and shit like that.

(20:55):
As far as set designs go, this was, you know, I don't want to say pretty tame, but I mean,
I don't know.
It wasn't as out there.
No, it wasn't as out there.
So the one thing I did notice was how more of the camera work was involved for the cinematography
trying to get those, like, especially when the camera guy was in the acts itself with

(21:19):
the different dance groups going in and out and he was kind of just rotating that camera
around.
Yeah.
I felt like they were really more focusing on the cinematography and getting those right
angles for the televised version rather than the actual on stage performance.
Yes.
Absolutely.
I mean, they were like, cause they're, they're doing the back and forth between the, when
the girls and Kendrick, you know, back and forth, they kept panning back and forth with

(21:43):
the camera.
Then they had those shots where they, you know, they're going through the entire crap,
do the whole entire dancing sequence and they're pulling back on it.
And yeah, I know.
And I was watching on Tubi.
I don't know if you guys were watching on Fox or any other channels, but they kept a
lot of the angles tight when you're watching on television.
So you weren't getting like, you know, like many of the past performances, you're getting

(22:06):
like the wide angle shots of the whole stage and everything.
So you can see all the effects, all the people move around.
This one was really, really focused on Kendrick and mostly Kendrick itself.
Yeah.
So I didn't get to see like a lot of the performances that was happening all around.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like there was, there was some wide angle shots, but not long enough to linger.

(22:26):
Yeah.
And it's kind of a bummer too, because there was a lot of symbolic messages in those wide
angle shots.
No, the only time they showed those wide angles from the very top down views, but never from
down up.
So do you think Drake was watching it?
One hundred percent.
Absolutely, man.
There's already a lawsuit filed.
Already?
Wait, really?

(22:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's already one.
I'm pretty sure his lawyer was just already ready with a pen just waiting there, just
watching it.
That means he had to watch it.
He had to watch the whole thing.
No, no, no, dude, he had him watching his boys, watching his family watching.
Everyone was watching.
Drake told his friends like, hey, you need to go watch that report back to me.
Let me know if they do it.

(23:08):
Because Drake had his own live performance in Australia for his on tour concert thing
that's happening over there.
On the same day, he set up for the Super Bowl.
Is that the event where it had him wear like his bulletproof bullet holes in the sweater
and the smoke coming out?
Yeah.
That was during that.
Yeah.
What was the symbolic message behind that shit?

(23:31):
Everyone taking their shots at me, but I'm still standing.
Bitch, you heard this shit.
But of course, the Kendrick and Drake beef wasn't the only thing that was going on the
Super Bowl.
And of course, not just the Chief and Eagles.
They released a lot of trailers to Super Bowl.
Quite a bit.
Did you guys watch them all?
Yes.

(23:52):
I saw most of them.
I'm actually really surprised.
The Fantastic Four didn't play.
I know.
Well, it just they released their teaser trailer just six days ago.
So that one is already pretty new.
And also forget it costs 30.
For every 30 seconds, it costs eight million dollars.
That's true.
Yeah.
And I mean, if they release a teaser for it and they got Thunderbolts, a whole trailer

(24:14):
of Thunderbolts was like a two minute trailer.
So think how much money they put just to release that Thunderbolts trailer out.
Of course, they're going to have to.
I knew they were going to have to choose between Fantastic Four or Thunderbolts for the Super
Bowl.
And the Thunderbolts is coming out more sooner.
So, so of course, they want more people.
Exactly.
They knew people are going to flock to Fantastic Four.
They need to convince people to go see Thunderbolts.

(24:36):
So that makes more sense.
But yeah, they released a full Thunderbolts trailer.
Mission Impossible, the final reckoning, Jurassic World Rebirth.
How do you guys feel about that Jurassic World?
I mean, I got beef with the trailer more than the actual.
Like, I don't know.
It was like a like I was telling you guys earlier, it just felt like really one liner,

(24:57):
really, really quirky type of reactions.
It's like action sequence.
Person gets their one liner.
Action sequence.
Person gets their one liner.
Where we're going took Island Zero, where it all happened.
That's exactly it.
Action sequence.
Action sequence.
What's going on?
I think they're mutating.
Action sequence.

(25:18):
Yeah, I see.
Oh man.
Don't say.
Don't say it's a velociraptor.
It's a velociraptor.
What do you compare that to?
I compare that to Star Wars.
Like, they fly now.
They fly now.
They fly now.
Velociraptor.
I felt the same way with that trailer.
It was very campy, action oriented.
Everyone gets their one line.
I didn't like it.
Yeah, so it was.
But that's just the trailer itself.
That doesn't.
That's not a reflection of what I think of the movie.
I think it's a

(25:48):
That is a thing we need to talk about later.
It's like how much harder it is to really pinpoint how movies are going to turn out
because trailers nowadays are really failing at really expressing how movies are going
to be.
They really are failing like the mood, the themes.

(26:10):
They give too much away.
Nothing's really like excitable anymore because they just give the entire plot.
Yeah.
They need to take a page out of A24s and who they're going in for marketing.
I think they have like AV squad and like, what was it, like Buddha something.
Yeah.
But yeah, for their marketing.
So they need to do that.

(26:32):
Instead of just going, yeah, just throw a bunch of shit in it.
But usually that happens when you have a movie that doesn't really have very much sustenance.
Yeah, exactly.
And more visual.
So you just need visual stuff just to occupy space.
Yeah, I get that.
I mean, when Scarlett Johansson's like one liner line is just like, yeah, my job is to

(26:52):
protect you.
Mostly, you know, trying to do my best.
You know, we're going to get, but yeah, it's like I said, they got a full trailer, fully
released for Thunderbolts.
They had that teaser for F1.
I missed that one.
Yeah.
That was actually pretty interesting.
So I'm actually wanting to see that one.
Yeah.
Novocaine.
Novocaine.

(27:13):
So that was pretty mid, but you got how to train a dragon.
So they got the 30 minute spot for that.
How do you guys, because a lot of people are complaining with the effects for this.
I really don't care for the effects.
It's just more of like, it's a shot for shot movie.
Yeah.
So were you surprised that they actually did shot for shot and even with the character
design that they did have no characteristic liberties with it?

(27:34):
Because most of the time when you get stuff like this, things don't actually line up.
This is actually pretty lined up to how the actual animated.
I think they're trying out to see what people will say about this.
Okay.
So whenever they do a live action adaptations of an animated film, what's the number one
complaints?
It doesn't look like the original.
They always bitching about it doesn't look like it.

(27:55):
They change things around.
They don't like it.
So we're going to give you the exact same thing, only live action.
So if you don't like it, that's on you.
So you're going to get a cosplay of the movie.
See that's my gripe.
Cause if you give them exactly how it's going to play out from the original content, you
get Punisher Warzone every time.
That or a...
You get Punisher Warzone anytime.

(28:15):
If you want your actual one to one adaptation, you're not going to like it.
You're going to get that or what's called that Fullmetal Alchemist movie.
Cosplay the movie.
It was just cosplay movie.
That's all it was.
So no, I get that.
I really do get that.
And I pointed this out before we even started.
It's really hard trying to make dragons realistic when you're trying to put them in...

(28:39):
When you have them on scale, scale, scale.
So if you put a person next to a dragon, it's just like their eye and you get those really
detailed up close shots.
The effects look good.
But anytime they're flying, they're moving around, you're trying to get like a full scale
visual, it just looks gummy every time.
It looks very gummy.
And it's gonna.
No matter what you do, it's gonna.
And we talked about that even with Game of Thrones and everything.

(29:02):
That's what it is.
Well, don't they make like life size replicas of these dragons?
Yeah, but even then with the film speed and what's called the f-stop, it does screw with
it a little bit.
It's never gonna match it up.
It's never gonna match up.
So there's always gonna be something wrong with it.
So you're always gonna have to go back and animate by hand.

(29:22):
And when you're animating by hand, you're gonna notice those small little hiccups in
the movement every time.
Especially this motion blur on the dragon.
Yeah, it's off every time.
It's off.
So that's the one thing.
I saw it.
I was like, okay.
I didn't have really too much fun as with Had a Trainin' Dragon.
It was pretty mid for me when I watched it.
Same thing.

(29:42):
So I'm not personally invested to it, but I didn't know what anyone was really expecting
with the visuals when you can get out of S'Reilly for the first part.
Because all you can really do is this or hyper realistic.
And then everyone's gonna bitch.
You got another Lion King movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With hyper realistic talking animals and stuff like that.
But then you got Smurfs.

(30:04):
There was a Smurfs one?
Yeah.
So we're in another Smurfs movie.
And then of course Lilo and Stitch.
Whatever.
I'm up for it.
So you have some beef with Lilo and Stitch.
Whatever.
It's just like, it just...
Stitch is just annoying.
He is.
I'm sorry.
He's annoying.
Is this your beef with the actual original content too with Lilo and Stitch?

(30:27):
You just have beef with Lilo and Stitch in general or just the remake of this?
Stitch overall is just like, he has very selective lines.
He only has so many lines.
Right?
Yeah.
And it's always the same ones just like we heard tonight or that night.
Like the exact same thing.
So it's just like, this is gonna be another movie where everyone, or at least kids are

(30:49):
just gonna be quoting random shit for the next like six months.
Just like they did when Lilo and Stitch came out in the first place.
Yeah.
And the shit was mad fucking annoying.
You're just, you're already preparing yourself for all the annoying kids.
That's the way you're pissed off with this.
Bro, I had to be mentally prepared for when Sonic 2 came out because of all the annoying

(31:12):
like Sonic quips of just...
And not even the Sonic quips we know of in video games that we grew up in, but ones that
they had to like dumb down even further to make obnoxious sounds so that way kids can
like repeat that and they can be like, ha ha, that's funny.
Here's a good thing about that.
There are not a single little kid in my family.

(31:33):
Oh, thank you.
Good for you.
The youngest one I think is...
Yeah, you're lucky with that one.
Seven, I think seven, eight.
But even then she does not like repeat like cartoon phrases, stuff like that.
So like, so I know it's for the kids.
I get it.
It's for the kids.
I mean, I'm all for it.
I mean, I like Lilo and Stitch, the original one.

(31:54):
And I was all, I'm not saying I liked it, but I did the other like the spinoff shows,
they did it justice.
Now, how do you guys feel about the animation of Stitch compared to how you saw with like
How to Train a Dragon?
Dude, it's Disney.
It's Disney.
Yeah.
It's Disney.
Is it all the same to you at this point?
It's a Disney animation.
It's a Disney animation.

(32:14):
Yeah.
They can't, they can't do hyper realistic because they try that looks ugly as hell.
If they try to do, well, if they try to do too realistic, it doesn't look right.
I mean, the only way you can go up from here in terms of like progression of technology
wise is just to make an actual creature.
You have to create the actual Stitch.

(32:37):
No, no, the problem.
Okay.
That's the only way you have to.
Genetic modified animal in the lab.
Yes, genetic splicing.
No, no, the problem with the problem with doing live action, like unfortunately Disney's
aware they have to dumb it down essentially their VFX.
They do dumb it down on purpose because there are certain technology that is super hyper
realistic, but not everything.

(32:57):
Like the main issue they had with finding Nemo was everything was cartoony.
The water looked hyper realistic.
It was too real.
So they had to dumb down the quality of the water to match the models for the actual fish
and creatures they were building.
Yeah.
Because they built themselves, they built the program, which also they built the program
for Frozen, the physics for the snow and the wind.

(33:23):
They built that.
So it looks hyper realistic.
It looks really good, but they have to dumb it down.
See?
Yep.
So that's how it goes with that.
But your whole gripe with that is something completely irrelevant.
Mine is irrelevant to the actual animation quality, texture quality.
Fuck, I hate these kids.
That's how I feel.
God damn it.

(33:44):
Now you got to hear this shit and his fucking talking and his dumb ass little giggle.
Also apparently they had also a teaser for Megan 2.0.
Yeah.
That was more like the logo announcement.
So it wasn't really showing for that one.
Oh no, it was just logo announcement and had a CGI Megan dancing.
Yeah.
So that's really what that one.
There's one trailer I do want to talk about.

(34:05):
This has nothing to do with Super Bowl that got released, but we missed a chance to talk
about it when it first got released.
Was the Fantastic Four trailer.
Yeah.
Because the thing looks great.
You're already battling.
You're already fighting.
I don't give a shit what anyone's going to say.
You're fighting.
You're fighting.
Shut your ass up.
Yeah.
So we all saw the Fantastic Four trailer that got released six days ago.

(34:27):
What are your opinions on it?
How do you feel about the, how you feel about the classic costumes?
How you feel about the casting choices?
Let me hear what you guys say.
What you guys think about this, Mike.
I mean, I think, I think it all looks great.
Yeah.
I think it's visually creative.
I think people bitching about how like the costumes look like shit.
Like talking about how like the term, the overall style, how they look like sixties,

(34:51):
like nuclear age type technology.
I think they look great.
You like it?
For what the setting is for the time of this movie, I think they look just fine.
Yeah.
You know, and the thing looks awesome.
It looks comic accurate.
You like the comic book accurate thing.
Yeah.
Comic book accurate thing.
Cause I mean like.
Well, this is what you have to go up against.
So you have 2005 with Michael Chiklis.

(35:15):
Which is prosthetic.
Prosthetic, guy in a suit.
So of course that's going to look always the most realistic cause it's guy in a suit.
Then you got to compare that again, 2015 with Josh Trank and the way they got to work with
that is that movie was very dark lit.
Yeah.
So they had a lot of shadows to disguise a lot of the imperfections with the CGI.
So it was just high contrast.

(35:36):
High contrast.
That's it.
So you can really disguise those mistakes.
Now you got 2025 with this new one and you're trying to keep everything with that same MCU
high lit low contrast lighting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So of course he's going to be more well lit in these scenes.
So of course you're going to see a lot of those imperfections within the CGI, especially

(35:58):
the animation.
Yeah.
Cause right now I'm actually currently watching the trailer right now as we speak.
Do you want to show the little bit of him cooking?
Okay.
You know, it's definitely, I'll say it because I only watched it one time last time when
it first came out.

(36:19):
That's the only time I watched it and rewatching it right now.
It looks like a standard Marvel film.
I'm not going to lie.
It looks like the standard to you.
Standard Marvel film.
Yeah.
It's the only thing different though is because there's a lot of anticipation because of the
previous fantastic four films.
All of them have always flopped besides, I think the first one or the second one was

(36:40):
actually financially successful in some bit, but Josh Trink was a huge flop.
I think the second one was a huge flop and critically both commercially and with critics,
no one liked that one.
Everyone makes the first fantastic four a little bit passable, but still even can't
be cheesy in its own right.

(37:01):
So you don't got much work in it up against that with this new fantastic four film.
And even with the box office, all they have to do is pass a hundred and eight, no, no
eight hundred and three million dollars.
And they've already beat the box office of all three previous films.
And it definitely will.
It definitely will pass.
It's the thing.
It's do you think this will get into the billion dollars?

(37:24):
Um, now that's a hard one to say.
Yeah.
Because there is a lot of anticipation with this one.
So with a lot of anticipation, there will be a lot of hype.
It doesn't mean the movie will play out good, but you might have that initial hard run at
the box office where it can actually boost you up to that billion dollar mark.

(37:44):
If everyone jumps on and sees it, what number they need to pass?
Eight hundred and three million dollars.
Eight hundred and three million dollars.
Yeah.
So that is the total box office of all three.
So essentially they got to beat out blade too.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
So 59 on the list.
Damn.
Yeah, no, they can do that.
They can easily do that.

(38:05):
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
And the Marvel's the most recent one.
It looks like it is 84 million.
I think if you drown out the people that are like saying it looks weird, I think those
are the people that aren't keeping the open mind of like, we're finally seeing a Marvel
movie that's different than all the other Marvel movies.

(38:27):
So far, Marvel's shows and movies that we've gotten has been set in present time.
I think we're just right now we're going into the decade of the hate.
So since like 2020 and onward, everyone loves hating.
So any project, whether it's good or bad, you're going to always see 50 percent people
loving it, 50 percent people hating it.
And that's just going to be in the social media.

(38:47):
But of course, everyone's still going to pay with their money to go see at the end of the
day.
And that's what really matters to these filmmakers.
Yeah.
So one thing, though, I really do want to point out is we're finally going to get a
galactus that's not a fucking.
Yeah, that's not some sort of like space storm.
Yeah.

(39:08):
I think they show the fucking antlers, man, coming out from the helmet.
Don't forget, we also get a silver surfer.
Yeah.
And this movie as well.
People worry.
Theoreticize.
Is that how you say it?
Theoreticize.
I'm sorry.
Theoreticize.
Theoreticize that in the trailer, you see Reed Richards actually working on the tunnel

(39:32):
bridge, like the dimensional bridge.
Yeah.
And saying that the galactus really does destroy this planet and they escape into that dimensional
bridge leading into the Earth 616.
Yeah, they're going to have to figure out some way to connect them to the main Marvel
Universe because it's just going to be weird if they're having their own side adventures

(39:53):
doing their own thing in their own universe while like the big cataclysmic event of the
multiverse is happening.
They're just having no part of it.
Yeah.
No, it's an especially they're supposed to introduce Galactus as the next big bad villain.
So it's it does make sense that if they escape to know the world, Galactus comes after them
and follows them.

(40:13):
Yeah, they follow along and stuff like that.
Let's see.
What are you looking for?
I'm looking to see what type of universe it is as well.
I mean, as you know, we read the comic books and seen the shows Galactus is supposed to
be the size of a damn universe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But what I do like about these movies is like now he could just turn whatever size he wants.

(40:34):
Well, that's always something he's done in the comics.
So in the comics, he was always able to shrink big or, you know, he was able to shrink down
or grow big.
He was always able to control his size.
Yeah.
So it's like more of like, I want to why not stay big the entire like now, you know, I'm
going to turn down to a good amount size.
See, I think this will happen.
I think when they're first writing the character Galactus had different writers.

(40:58):
So I think it was just the inconsistency in the sizes they were drawing until they had
to come up some bullshit way.
No, no, he just controls the size.
He could be as big as the universe or he could be as tiny or as small as a rat.
Yeah, we know sometimes they show him like face to face with another hero and they're,
you know, all this you can see his head and that's sitting there saying right in front

(41:19):
of him.
Yeah.
Or other times are literally the both the exact same size.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or other times he's holding like the planet in his hands.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He just changes sizes at the whim.
That's how it always is.
Because that was the only one thing I was hearing people complain about with Galactus.
Why is he so tiny?
Why is he so small?
He's supposed to eat planets.
I'm like, like, look, he's big for the photo ops.

(41:40):
But when it comes to the fighting, he's got to be like, all right, I got to bring it down
a little bit.
Got to keep it a little bit fair.
Yeah.
You know?
So like I said, no matter what they always do have the excuses.
Comma, Gakkarit.
And that's the one thing that protects them so they can always, you know, shrink up, shrink
down, use whatever scale model they want for this character.
But anything else you guys got to add before we fully close out anything you want to say

(42:05):
to the good old chiefs, to Taylor Swift, to Patrick Mahone's, to Jalen Hurt.
E-A-G-L-E-S.
Eagles!
I mean, there's always next year.
There's always next year.
No there ain't.
No there ain't.
No there ain't, man.
No, because now there's no more 3P.
Now you got to start your ass all over again.

(42:26):
Don't worry, buddy.
You hold on those tears.
Next year you'll get them.
Cry.
Cry right now.
You failed.
You lost.
You have lost.
You failed Kansas City.
Let that sink in.
Patrick Mahone's parents are going to come in and he's like, son, we're getting divorced.
It's your fault.
It's your fault.

(42:47):
I just want you to know it's all Brittany Mahone's fault.
Alright, we want to thank everyone for listening to this week's episode.
I'm curious on your thoughts on tonight's topic.
How do you feel about the Super Bowl, the halftime, and the trailers they released?
Do you like them?
Do you hate them?
You can leave a comment below if you're watching this on our Red Band Podcast YouTube channel
for listeners to discuss episode topics and various other film related news.

(43:10):
We put out episodes every Wednesday for our audio listeners and Fridays for those who
like to watch our videos.
For our audio listeners, you can find the Red Band Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcast,
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And of course, I'll say again, you can watch our video format on our Red Band Podcast channel
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Before I fully close out Mike Hessell's last end notes for you guys.

(43:32):
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(43:55):
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(44:15):
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