November 9, 2025 • 47 mins
Ever notice how stress sneaks into your house wearing different faces—short replies, nitpicking the tiniest thing, or a sudden urge to fix what’s right in front of you? We open up about how we each show stress, why clutter can spike anxiety, and how we’ve learned to spot the early signs before small sparks become big fires. From the social script that tells Black men to “man up” to the habit of masking stress with productivity, we unpack the roots and share what actually helps us regulate in real time.
We get practical and personal. Meditation and yoga help clear the fog, but therapy is the next step to sort the mental drawers we keep stuffing. We talk about the delicate balance between letting feelings move—yes, sometimes a door slam happens—and stepping in with a repair plan that doesn’t silence anyone. Our go-to loop: notice the cue, name the state, choose a tool (walk, silence, humor, cooking, cleaning), then repair with intention. Emotional intelligence shows up in small rituals: greet before critique, practice gratitude when you walk in, and reset expectations out loud.
There’s plenty of everyday life here too: a workplace “side eye” on poor communication and how secrecy crushes morale, a late-night fast food fail that turns into a lesson about expectations, and the practical math of cutting streaming subscriptions to save money. We share how reflection and the circle of control keep us grounded, how boundaries can preserve family ties without sacrificing peace, and why letting people feel—then finding a real fix—can change the tone of a whole week.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:03):
The Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
SPEAKER_06 (00:23):
Hello, everybody.
Welcome back.
And thank you for sticking withus for part two.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Part two.
SPEAKER_06 (00:29):
This is the Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
I am Kefla.
SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
I am Cree.
SPEAKER_06 (00:35):
And we were talking so long in the first episode
that we was like, yo, we can'tjust put all this out on one,
you know, one long episode.
People would probably just taketheir car and just run it off
over a bridge or something.
So we're not going to do that toy'all.
SPEAKER_01 (00:49):
I don't think y'all would do that anyways.
SPEAKER_06 (00:51):
Right.
So thank you so much forsticking with us.
And uh hey, let's get right intopart two.
His eye, one of his eyes ain'teven working right.
Look like them old uh Toyota.
Remember Toyota Celica?
Because probably like an uh 8S7when he used to have them lights
used to flash it like that.
(01:12):
One of his lights flashed likethat.
That's what he looked like.
SPEAKER_01 (01:17):
We could talk about him because he's trifling.
SPEAKER_06 (01:19):
Yeah, he's trifling.
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Oh, ragged aself.
SPEAKER_06 (01:22):
Oh, Buster.
Buster Brown.
All right.
So let's get on so we can dowhat we gotta do for the rest of
the day.
What we gotta do for the rest ofthe day.
SPEAKER_01 (01:32):
Nothing.
Which is the best thing.
SPEAKER_06 (01:35):
That's good.
All right.
Alabama ain't playing today.
Alabama State playing PrairieView.
I mean, we went to Prairie View.
It was, no, we didn't go toPrairie View.
They came to us.
I was thinking of MississippiState.
It was so cold and raining whenwe cheered there.
Arkansas Pine Bluff when I gotinto that fight with the other
mascot.
SPEAKER_00 (01:51):
I'm trying to find my company.
SPEAKER_06 (01:52):
In the hood.
SPEAKER_01 (01:53):
Oh, got them.
SPEAKER_06 (01:54):
All right, so we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
We're gonna end one question.
I got well, I had two, but wecould do one.
We could do other one.
SPEAKER_06 (02:00):
I mean, it depends on how fast we're doing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:02):
Oh, yeah, that is true.
All right, here we go.
Um, how do you oh I'll this isthis is the question, and then
I'll do it.
So I'll read the question.
How do you both deal with stressdifferently?
And what have you learned fromeach other's coping styles?
SPEAKER_02 (02:21):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
So well, what do you let's think about describing the
other when they're stressed?
Okay.
And how do you know when I'mstressed, and how do I know when
you're stressed?
SPEAKER_05 (02:39):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (02:41):
So who's you going first?
SPEAKER_01 (02:43):
You can start first.
How do you know when I'mstressed?
SPEAKER_06 (02:45):
Uh you're you're very short um in answers and
statements, um, and you forgetthat I'm grown, and you kind of
think that I'm a coworker or akid in your classroom that you
gotta tell you.
(03:06):
Yeah, no, a co-worker, becauseis like, how do you not
understand that?
And I'm like, 'cause I don't Idon't know what you're talking
about, you know.
Um I know because you've beendealing with them, and that's
you've you're seeing my my theirface on my shoulders.
Oh.
And so that's how you'reresponding.
(03:26):
And then how you know you'reyou're short and cold.
And um, you know, so that's howI know you're stressed.
SPEAKER_01 (03:37):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (03:38):
Um then that that was the okay.
SPEAKER_01 (03:41):
So then, okay, so so for me, how do I know when
you're stressed?
It's because you are short too.
And then you get nitpicky.
Like you just start things thatare like, why is he even worried
about that?
Like, why?
And it's kind of like becauseyou whatever the stress is,
(04:04):
like, that hasn't figured outhow to manage.
So then it's like trying tonitpick on things that can't
immediately be fixed or done.
And you get like nitpicky inthat way.
So then I know, oh, he's it'ssome kind of something he's
going on.
That's what I noticed.
Would you say that is true?
SPEAKER_06 (04:25):
Yeah, it's probably true.
SPEAKER_01 (04:28):
Probably.
SPEAKER_06 (04:29):
Yeah, I'd say probably true.
But I know I know why thenitpicky comes though.
SPEAKER_01 (04:34):
Why?
SPEAKER_06 (04:35):
The nitpicky comes because uh my life is cluttered.
And so if I can fix one thing, Ifelt like I've fixed something.
And my mind is cluttered, um youknow, but my mind is which is I
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mean, and that's you know, ifyou study it, you'll know that a
person with a cluttered mindnormally has a cluttered
surrounding.
And even when my mind is fresh,like if after you know, when I
meditate and, you know, do myyoga and stuff like that, uh,
there are still things that Ican uh see that can because of
(05:20):
the clutter is still there.
But there are other places thatI can look at, maybe the thing
that I did nitpick and correctit, that's what I can focus on
to keep me from stressing again.
You know, so um and I know, youknow, people say, well, why
don't you declutter your stuff?
(05:41):
Uh people living in clutter orpeople that uh have cluttered
minds and cluttered lives, theyknow it's not as easy.
It's just like telling, really,I mean, I'm a I don't know, I
don't have an addiction, butit's like telling a person
that's addicted to stop.
SPEAKER_01 (05:56):
Just stop taking it, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (05:58):
Uh or it's like uh we had a discussion about, you
know, exercising.
It's like telling a person who'snever exercised before to start,
or a person who's trying to loseweight how to tell them to do
it.
And it's like it's not that easybecause we're seeing the results
we want to have as opposed toevery day of showing up, going
to the gym, showing up, eatingproperly, showing up of staying
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consistent.
And that's what this is.
Of course, it'd be so mucheasier if I just like went away
for two weeks and somebody justblew the whole thing up and got
rid of everything.
But then the s other stress willcome from me doing what?
Wondering what was thrown away.
SPEAKER_00 (06:36):
Yes.
SPEAKER_06 (06:37):
Or even the upset feeling of knowing that I needed
something and it is gone.
Yeah.
And I can never get it back.
You know, um, but I do get overthings, you know, quickly.
Yeah, I get over like you know,I have a moment, which I feel
like I deserve it because I feellike, and I'm probably going on,
but I feel like I wasn't able tohave moments growing up.
(07:00):
And in most most young blackmen, we don't get the
opportunity to have moments.
We can't be emotional.
We can't uh because they tell usto do what?
Suck it up, man up.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Man up.
Yeah.
I talk about that all the time.
SPEAKER_06 (07:11):
You know, and so train them.
Um I get over things, you know,easy and quickly.
Um one, because of that's thattraining that's in us, you know.
It's not healthy.
But then also I get over thingseasily from the healthy
perspective of knowing that it'snot that deep.
(07:32):
You know what I'm saying?
That uh if it's done, it's done.
If it's gone, it's gone.
Don't let it kill you.
Because I don't want to have aheart attack.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to be stressed.
I don't and I don't like forpeople to be mad at me that mean
something to me.
If I don't mean anything to you,you you Or if you don't mean
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anything to me.
Oh yeah.
If you don't mean anything tome, sorry, then you could be mad
at me forever.
You know what I'm saying?
Like racist people that don'tknow, you can be mad at me
forever.
I don't, you know what I'msaying?
But somebody that's close to me,you really know me, you know
that I'll do anything for yourhappiness, which will actually
give me I will sacrifice minefor a minute because it your
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happiness brings me happiness.
You know what I'm saying?
So um, but the clutter is whatis is what stresses me.
And I know I need help in it,and I'm not talking about just
doing it.
Like I need help.
And so I I and me seekingtherapy is my goal.
SPEAKER_01 (08:35):
I've been saying that.
SPEAKER_06 (08:36):
Yeah.
Um Well, you know, I've wantedto do therapy a while, a long
while.
You know.
I wanted to do uh Well, why whyhaven't you done it?
Um Well, I wanted to do couplestherapy.
But um I'll do singular therapyfirst, personal therapy.
SPEAKER_01 (08:56):
And then you can invite me.
SPEAKER_06 (08:57):
Yeah.
So I'll get you on board.
Uh do couples therapy one day.
But um, that's my goal.
SPEAKER_01 (09:05):
So what is your way of coping?
I know you mentioned meditation,yoga.
What else do you do?
SPEAKER_06 (09:23):
I mask it in in in other ways and trying to be
better in other areas.
You know what I mean?
So let's say for example, um, ifI am stressed and I'm causing
chaos because I'm short-temperedor short not really short-term.
SPEAKER_01 (09:41):
You don't create chaos.
SPEAKER_06 (09:43):
But I mean, uh if I not not chaos, but if I create,
oh well, you know, I'm gonnaleave them alone.
I I mask it by still doing whatI need to do.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, some people shut down.
They're stressed, they're notdoing anything.
SPEAKER_01 (09:59):
Yeah.
Oh, so maybe like you'll comeand cook something delicious.
SPEAKER_06 (10:02):
Or I still make sure I I take my time and prepare
what needs to be prepared.
Like I make sure if I know whereI cook, I'm gonna cook, I'm
gonna clean the kitchen, loadthe dishwasher.
You know, you need, you know, ifyou ask me to do something, I'm
gonna do it.
I'm gonna do everything I needto do so that it doesn't
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compound any other problems orthings that I've caused because
of me being stressed.
So that's the that's the onlyway.
Other than that, man, I mean,you know, I just I I I put a
lot, like you said, a lot ofstuff I I uh pack it away, I
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guess.
SPEAKER_01 (10:47):
Well, I think it's important though to be able to,
like, you sometimes get to aspace where, like, for me,
sometimes I need to slam a doorand I need to do something like
that.
And he will get frustrated withme for doing that.
And like, for instance, here'san example of um when we were
getting getting ready to get ourkitchen redone, and I was um, we
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love our our contractor.
Um, but there was some kind ofmix up in communication on what
day they were starting orcoming.
And so then finally it was likewe had showered, we were getting
ready, we were in the bed.
And then I got the text messagethat said, he will be there
tomorrow at um in the morning tostart the demolition of the
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kitchen.
Well, we hadn't gotteneverything out of all the
cabinets, and so for me, when Ihadn't got in the bed and I'm
ready to go to bed, becausesleep is my, I love sleep.
SPEAKER_06 (11:53):
It's her jam.
SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
Sleep is my jam.
And so having to get up and dothat, and I didn't want to do
it, and I was frustrated withthat, and um so I'm fussing
about it, and so he's like,Don't just I'll do it.
You if it's gonna make you feellike this, then don't, and so
and I'm you know, slammingthings and upset.
(12:16):
And so, um, because you don't, Isaid, you don't have to, you
know, be you don't need to, andI said, uh yes, I can be
frustrated and angry about this.
And so I think the idea ofmasking and not letting those
feelings just kind of showthrough how you needed to show
because it wasn't for a bitabout him, and it wasn't
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anything that I was doing tohim.
Like I wasn't hitting him upsidethe head and you know, you know,
things towards him or cussing athim, or like it was nothing
towards him.
It's just me being frustrated,and and and but he just doesn't
like what I think like to seethat maybe for people that you
love or you care about, and Ijust don't want to maybe come
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towards me, or I don't know.
So he and so I said, No, I canbe angry.
SPEAKER_06 (13:08):
You know what?
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
And I said that and I went on downstairs and I got
the we got the whole kitchenthing done.
SPEAKER_06 (13:14):
Pause real quick.
SPEAKER_01 (13:15):
Yes.
SPEAKER_06 (13:16):
For the slip.
Maybe that's where Kimani get itfrom.
SPEAKER_01 (13:19):
What?
SPEAKER_06 (13:20):
You know how when he sees somebody expelling some
kind of physical.
Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:24):
And he gets and he says he will leave the room or
he tries to say something funnyto like the situation.
SPEAKER_06 (13:29):
What can he do to correct it?
Yeah.
Or he'll be like, look, y'alljust I I'm gonna do it.
Uh-huh.
You said, you know, and when hegets up in the middle of the
night, he starts doing stuff tocorrect what it is as maybe
where he got it from.
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Uh-huh.
But it just made me think.
I was like, dang.
SPEAKER_01 (13:42):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06 (13:43):
And I I'm I I love that training.
SPEAKER_01 (13:46):
And I think then what's so funny is vice versa.
SPEAKER_06 (13:50):
The one that'll do the slamming.
SPEAKER_01 (13:52):
He's gonna do the slamming of the door.
He's gonna do the stomping upthe stairs and saying what he
got to say, going up the stairs.
And um, but I think whatbalances it is you're gonna say,
well, I you try to fix it, butwe in a place where I'm like,
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no, because I'm not gonna lethim go do it all because that's
not what it is.
I'm just frustrated that it'slast minute we have to do it.
And so we have to allow peopleto feel and to be able to
express, if it's not hurtinganybody, allow people to feel um
through their frustration andand and if they need to slam a
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door, that doesn't hurt anybody.
Okay, it doesn't hurt anybody,but there has to be a balance.
SPEAKER_06 (14:42):
So like so if this is allowing you to feel, uh-huh,
this is allowing us to heal.
SPEAKER_01 (14:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (14:50):
And that means just let us fix it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:54):
I I get that part, but for me, and maybe that's
also for me, is that I don'twant you.
I like that, I love that you dothat because that's what creates
the balance for me.
But I'm not, I'm fussing, butI'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_00 (15:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:11):
Right.
So it's like, I'm not gonna not,I wasn't gonna not go down there
and do it, but I'm justfrustrated that it was so last
minute.
SPEAKER_06 (15:18):
But you know me, I don't want if you're gonna fuss,
go.
Let me do it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:23):
He don't, yes, he don't want all the fusses.
SPEAKER_06 (15:25):
Go.
SPEAKER_01 (15:26):
But when he says that, then it also alerts me to
um you you need to regulateyourself.
So when he says that, I it alsoshows, which I think is okay,
like that is a healthy piece forhim to say, We're lucky listen,
listen, I do it.
(15:46):
If you're gonna be feeling likeall of this and this and this
and that, then that is my hintthat says, okay, you need to
regulate your stuff.
SPEAKER_06 (15:56):
We're lucky because I, you know, we I don't like a
back and forth.
You know what I mean?
And so it's like, so if you slamand I'm like, oh, I'm gonna
slam, you know, we I don't, youknow, so I'm always okay.
Well, look, what would I need todo to fix it?
You like, it's not that easy.
I'm like, yes.
Just give me the chance.
What it so what's wrong?
Is this okay?
Go away, let me handle it.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
No, and and I'll tell them I'm frustrated and I'm
angry.
SPEAKER_06 (16:19):
Yeah.
And I'm no uh, you can't, I youcan't uh let me fix it.
Yes.
It ain't that yes, it ain't thatsimple.
And it's the principal, okay,principal, let me.
SPEAKER_01 (16:28):
And so the same for him, when he comes in, sometimes
he'll come in the house and hejust starts saying all the
things he sees that's not rightand wrong.
And I'll say, Chow, you justwalked in the dome.
Don't nobody want to hear yousaying everything that's wrong
when you walk in.
SPEAKER_06 (16:46):
But I told y'all before I left, this had both of
me.
SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
And then he realizes, oh, let me regulate
myself.
So um I think that's also likeuh um um emotional intelligence.
SPEAKER_06 (16:59):
You know what?
I say when I do that and I comein and you say something, the
switch hits that says, I'm luckyto have somebody come home to.
I say that every time.
So, and I'm lucky to be able tocome home to this.
So when I come in, I'm like, ah,blah, blah, blah, blah, it's out
of place.
And then you say, Well, okay,hello to you too.
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And I'm like, my bad.
And I that's what I'm saying inmy head.
Boy, you're lucky to have ahouse to come home to.
You're lucky to that you wantedto come home.
You're lucky, you know, and soit it instantly pulls me back.
And I'm not one to, you know, Idon't like to I'm I'm good at
uh, I guess saying keeping workat work, home at home.
(17:42):
But sometimes it's other stuff.
It spills off.
Yeah.
You know, and and so that's whatit, you know, it's little things
like that.
And it's and and and more timesthan not, it's nothing against
anybody else.
It's all me.
Whatever, whatever I'm like whenI'm pointing stuff, that's me.
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Because I'm thinking about mymess, and it's like, now I got a
mess here too, that was clean.
You know what I'm saying?
Um, if somebody gets me upset,I'm not really mad, I'm mad at
myself that I let them get meupset.
You know, I'm mad that I letsomebody cut me off in traffic
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and I got pissed.
You know, I'm mad that I gotfrustrated that I went
somewhere, it was closed becausemaybe I didn't research the time
and all that stuff.
So more times than not, I canfind a way to say, Kefla, what
did what was your part in it?
SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
And then So a coping strategy is you being
reflective.
SPEAKER_06 (18:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:48):
Like being able.
And that's all apart to me.
SPEAKER_06 (18:50):
It might happen again.
SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (18:52):
And I want to know how to, like I said, with
coping, what how am I able tohandle it if it happens again?
SPEAKER_01 (18:58):
And I I think um even like I talk a lot when I'm
doing my trainings for uh zonesof regulation and um talking to
um families about it.
And so slamming doors, likethat's not a good coping
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strategy.
Um, you we if you are slamming adoor, you are dysregulated.
And so I'm gonna start callingyou dysregulated.
That is, you really are.
And so that's why I say none ofus are perfect.
There's a point where ouremotions get the best of us, and
we may do something that um isdysregulated, whether that's
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slamming a door, whether that'suh were you allowed to do that
at home?
What I always say um at myhouse, nobody talked about being
upset, but you knew people wereupset because you heard cabinet
slam and you heard um door slam,but you also saw people's body
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language, yeah.
Um, and then you or or or zerocommunication.
SPEAKER_03 (20:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:10):
And so um you knew that.
And so in that way, they weredysregulated, but nothing is
solved that way.
Yeah.
And so for me, what I learnedfrom that is with my own family,
no, we gonna talk like about it.
So luckily for me, um, I wasblessed to marry someone who
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also was gonna talk about it.
But it's hard to do because ittakes two people to kind of talk
about it.
So if one person decides, I'mshutting down, I'm not
communicating when they aredysregulated or upset.
And the other person, that thatjust that that becomes quite
challenging for um for people.
But because nobody can read yourmind, because sometimes you
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could be upset and nobody knowswhy why you're upset.
And I would say, even for us, wehave grown to that.
Because I know I will shut downand be like, I'm not talking.
And it might have been timeswhere you're like, I don't know
what you're mad about.
SPEAKER_06 (21:11):
But because that's was uh Yeah, I remember
sometimes you would say, I'm nottalking.
I said, Well, you ain't gottatalk, but but you gonna listen.
Yeah.
So I'm gonna talk.
Or you would say something like,uh uh I I'm not I'm not trying
to hear this no more and say,Well, ain't nothing wrong with
your ears, though.
So I'm gonna talk and you'regonna you'll hear me saying what
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I'm gonna say, whether or notyou listen to me or not.
SPEAKER_01 (21:34):
So I think for me that was like a learned of like
how problems were urged in mywhen I was growing up.
Yeah.
Like I don't ever recall peoplelike talking about, you know,
like anywho, so but even for soI say So what's your let's get
to your thing?
What's your what's your coping?
Yeah.
Oh, I loved for a run.
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Like working out for me is acoping strategy for me to kind
of let loose.
Also, driving in silence, likesometimes I that helps.
Try you phone call every day?
I don't.
Sometimes if sometimes I don'tanswer people's calls.
So sometimes people may call onmy ride.
You're gonna answer and I'll I'min like asylum or I just I'm not
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in the space where I feel likeum talking depending upon um
what it is.
Um, so that is for me, and thenalso um something to take your
mind off of, like somethingfunny or humorous to kind of
like I know people say likeTikTok and stuff like is is like
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a uh a social media addiction,but it really can distract you
um and and that.
And then also like you said,remembering what you should what
you should be grateful orthankful for, like what are the
joys and things in my life wherethis small little bit of
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something is not even worth mebeing that upset, especially if
it's like thinking about circleof control, like if it's
something I can't control and Iand I can't change, then there's
no need of being upset over it.
If it is something that I dohave control over or or are it
can possibly change, then I haveto sit and think about how how I
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can I make that happen.
SPEAKER_03 (23:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (23:28):
Um, and I also believe I'm a true believer in
reflecting.
So reflecting in when things arenot going right, like what's my
part in it and why it's notgoing right, thinking about it
that way.
Also, I reflect even when thingsare great.
SPEAKER_06 (23:47):
You have to because how can it be better?
You gotta repeat it too.
Yeah, you like, well, this wasgreat.
So what did I do so that I canrepeat it?
Just like if you're playingsports and you run the play
right, well, you gotta what didI do that made the play right?
SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (24:00):
You know, so that I can do that again.
Like a recipe.
What did I use?
Okay, I used that.
And it made it perfect.
I'm gonna make sure I use those,that vanilla extract again, you
know.
So you have to reflectpositively and negatively.
SPEAKER_01 (24:12):
So I think about it in that way.
And um, and also um I have alluh also grown up as a person,
like when somebody like one timeyou do something where I'm like,
uh, I'm done fooling with you.
I could cut people off like andbe done.
(24:34):
I have tried to work on thatbecause people aren't perfect.
I'm not perfect, and I wonder, Iwouldn't want anybody just to
kind of like cut me off likethat.
So also figuring out my part inthat to help to maintain
important relationships to me.
Yeah.
Um, but I'm also a believer inprotecting my peace.
(24:56):
Of course.
And so that comes through thereflection of being able to see
is there something I can do?
If it's not, then let me figureout what I'm gonna do to protect
my peace.
And sometimes um uh separatingfrom specific people um and
(25:17):
deciding what space you willallow for them to have in your
life is maintaining arelationship because if you
allow it to continue, then itwill be a done done I'm like you
don't exist person.
(25:37):
So sometimes deciding doing thatseparation is also helpful to
maintain um that relationship.
I'm thinking specifically if youthink about relationships that
are family, you know.
So um just to maintain that andthen to also um ensure a healthy
(26:01):
family dynamic.
SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (26:02):
So, anyways, all right.
SPEAKER_06 (26:04):
All right, so let's get to, you know, let's go ahead
and wrap it up so we can get outof it because we were supposed
to be 45.
Oh, uh hour.
We way past Are we really?
SPEAKER_01 (26:14):
It don't even seem like we've been talking that
long anyways.
SPEAKER_05 (26:23):
So let's uh let's get to our uh side eye of the
week.
SPEAKER_01 (26:27):
Oh gosh, my ready all right.
SPEAKER_06 (26:32):
So um my side eye of the week is um my job, lack of
communication.
Um it's just like I don't know.
Uh I'm happy for my job, Godknows I am.
I'm happy where I'm working, butit's like lack of communication.
(26:55):
Um I don't know, uh I don'tknow.
So I'm not gonna go into detail.
Well, forget it.
Um I think that if you involvesomeone, say, hey, I need you to
teach this class now, and thenhey, we're not gonna need you to
teach this class anymore.
(27:15):
You know what I mean?
Just let me know.
Don't don't just all of a suddenI'm like, oh, prepared and like,
okay, and then somebody said, Ohno, I got all my kids uh for the
uh for the tutoring session.
You don't have them anymore.
I said, I don't what what oh Ididn't know that.
Like that, you know, stuff likethat.
Like let me know what you knowwhat's going on.
(27:35):
Um it's just like it's beprofessional, you know,
communicate to people.
Um we always talk aboutcommunication is key when we're,
you know, dealing with parentsand kids, but you know, I think
it's communication is key forany human being.
You know, that's the reason whywe have mouths and ears, and um
(27:58):
we also have eyes because we canread an email.
So communicate through an emailif you don't want to communicate
verbally.
But um that's my side out of it.
It's a lack of communicationfrom the higher-ups, thinking
everything is freaking uhprivate.
Um it's just uh Unnecessarily.
SPEAKER_01 (28:16):
It is.
Like those even It's secrecy.
SPEAKER_06 (28:18):
Okay, then when something go down and you need
some support, and we can't helpyou.
And I feel like it's o it'sreally getting to the point
where I'm noticing that you'reonly you're not, you know,
normally it's like, oh, we'rewe're a community, we're a team.
We're not a team.
It's like now it's like we'remore so the objects that you
(28:42):
would use to facilitate a game.
You know what I mean?
So either I'm the the ball, I'mthe yard marker, I'm the goal,
but I'm not the player in theteam.
You know what I mean?
That's what I'm starting to see.
And um, and it's not just me.
You know, it's other people.
SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
Other people feel the same way.
SPEAKER_06 (29:04):
Right.
And so it's uh but that's notgood.
SPEAKER_01 (29:08):
That doesn't feel good.
SPEAKER_06 (29:09):
No, it doesn't feel good, and it's not good for
education.
It's not good for morale, it'snot good for uh, you know, a
company aspect.
It's just it's not it's not goodat all.
So my side of the week is thatI'ma hopefully some more
exciting things are happeningfor a side eye of the week, but
because I know recently it'sbeen my job.
SPEAKER_00 (29:28):
Uh-huh.
It has been.
SPEAKER_06 (29:29):
But also it's been, I've been seeing it from a
different perspective.
You know, because back in, youknow, when I'm in the dungeon,
what we call the P area.
SPEAKER_00 (29:36):
Nobody is bothering it.
Nobody bothers.
Right.
SPEAKER_06 (29:39):
And and and, you know, you see what it is.
And there was still some stuffthere I could have complained
about.
But um now, what I see is, youknow, and I'm to the point, like
say, I got more good yearsbehind me than I do in front.
SPEAKER_02 (29:52):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06 (29:52):
Well, those are good years in front, but I'm saying,
you know, you you old in thegame, I've seen it.
And now I'm in a position whereYou know, I can go anywhere and
teach what I'm teaching now.
So you know, they need it.
They need me.
SPEAKER_02 (30:06):
That's true.
SPEAKER_06 (30:06):
Well, you think they need me.
A lot of people, they don't careabout representation.
They don't care about lack ofblack males in the classroom
certain places.
SPEAKER_01 (30:15):
So Kimai and I are talking about that.
SPEAKER_06 (30:17):
Yeah.
Um, but that's my side eye.
What's your side eye?
SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
Um, I'm side eyeing whataburger that is by it.
SPEAKER_06 (30:25):
Look, okay, I got two side eyes.
Right here.
Matter of fact, I mean Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Let me tell you.
So yesterday, after we had thoselittle bitty chicken wings, of
course, we were hungry after theconcert.
The concert was a full fourhours.
SPEAKER_06 (30:42):
Yes.
I was happy.
I I love a long concert becauseyou feel like you pay your
money.
And I hate when you're like, Ididn't.
Yeah.
You know.
SPEAKER_01 (30:49):
So it was four hours.
So when we got home, we werelike, only thing like really
open near us was theWhataburger.
SPEAKER_06 (30:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:55):
We get to order Whataburger.
First of all, I ordered myself acheeseburger kid's meal.
Because I'm the cheese, though.
I knew it was late, so I wasordered something kind of late.
He ordered the chicken sandwichmeal, which he always orders.
First, the fries were cold.
We sat in line forever.
SPEAKER_06 (31:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:11):
So you would think that they're good 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_06 (31:14):
They'd be fresh.
SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
Making fresh stuff.
That's why the line is taking solong because you're making fresh
stuff.
Fries cold.
Then I get home to eat mycheeseburger.
I got a grilled cheese thatlooked like they grilled the
cheese four hours ago.
Yeah.
Terrible.
His chicken sandwich, burntpatty.
SPEAKER_06 (31:31):
Then too.
SPEAKER_01 (31:32):
Couldn't even eat it.
SPEAKER_06 (31:34):
I threw it in the trash.
SPEAKER_01 (31:35):
So disappointed.
SPEAKER_06 (31:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
In that mess that we got from uh one of the water
burger.
So his one of his students worksthere.
SPEAKER_06 (31:43):
I'ma complain to her on Monday.
She wasn't there then, but I'mgoing to tell her say, yo, you
y'all need to use the channel.
SPEAKER_01 (31:50):
In actuality, had it not been so late, we should have
turned around.
Turn around and be like took itright on back.
Because there ain't no tellingwhat we would have gotten back
in return.
Take a body.
I'm always nervous about whenyou turn food back in and ask
for something new.
SPEAKER_06 (32:04):
Because the moral morale of people has changed.
Just like, you know, customerservice used to be great.
People wanted to do right byyou.
Now people don't give a damn.
And they'll do whatever.
And you know, people you hearabout people doing crazy things.
And hey, who knows what kind ofsaliva we've eaten in our food
before.
But we're not complainers, buteven still.
SPEAKER_01 (32:23):
Yeah, we yeah, we normally are.
And so I I I'm glad I bought akid's meal because I'm just
thinking to myself, if I wouldhave bought a yeah, we didn't
spend a lot of money on that.
SPEAKER_06 (32:34):
Yeah, because mine was a little extra because I
upgraded to the kids.
To onion rings.
SPEAKER_01 (32:38):
Mm-hmm.
But that was a mess.
Outside iron, whataburger.
Side iron.
Um over there near us inAckworth.
Yeah.
That they were um that was somenasty food.
I mean, I don't think I hadanything like that.
A sick of you.
In a long way.
Yeah, that was horrible.
That was I mean, it wasterrible.
(32:58):
We should have just gone toWaffle House.
SPEAKER_06 (33:00):
Should have.
Mm-mm.
No, that would have beenterrible.
That would have been terribletoo.
SPEAKER_01 (33:03):
At least it would have been hot and fresh.
SPEAKER_06 (33:04):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
I mean, because they cook it right there.
SPEAKER_06 (33:07):
Yeah, they ain't fighting on our side at Waffle
House.
SPEAKER_01 (33:09):
Uh-uh.
We could have done the WaffleHouse right there.
They would have it would havebeen hot and fresh, and um, it
would have had a whole bunch ofgood.
That's one reason I don't likeWaffle House.
One time I went to Waffle House,but I saw them uh scooping out
that oil on the thing.
I was like, oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_06 (33:24):
That's what they do.
Put that.
Yeah.
Well, it ain't oil, I think it'smelted butter.
SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
Oh, anyway.
SPEAKER_06 (33:29):
Uh yeah, but it's the melted butter.
SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
They put it on the waffle iron and on the griddle.
SPEAKER_05 (33:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
But they use an awful lot of oil.
And that just made me feel like,oh, that's why people like it.
I know they do, but it made mefeel like, oh, my God was eating
a million calories.
Anyways.
SPEAKER_06 (33:45):
All right, what are we looking forward to this week?
SPEAKER_01 (33:47):
Ooh, I don't know what I'm looking forward to.
SPEAKER_06 (33:51):
The weather's gonna be high around 70 something now
this week.
SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
It's gonna be a little nice.
SPEAKER_06 (33:56):
It's gonna be a little, I think it might be a
little humid though, becauseit's like that weather getting
back up to hot.
You know, I don't know.
It may be clear.
SPEAKER_01 (34:02):
But uh November 4th is voting.
SPEAKER_06 (34:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
So make sure y'all get out there and vote because
Lord knows what we're gonna do.
SPEAKER_06 (34:07):
Early voting, we need to we need to vote.
SPEAKER_01 (34:09):
Um make sure you vote to make a difference.
Uh I'm not quite sure what I'mlooking forward to.
I know um I hear that my in-lawsare coming this way.
Yeah.
So um I think we'll cooksomething.
SPEAKER_06 (34:22):
We should, huh?
SPEAKER_01 (34:23):
Yeah, um, they're they're supposed to be coming
this way.
So maybe that'll be tell MeganPoe.
Well, also um one of our for ourcouple friends that we love to
go out to dinner with, they umwe're talking about going out to
dinner on Saturday.
SPEAKER_06 (34:37):
Um must be the bye week for Northern Illinois.
Maybe so.
Uh J.
SPEAKER_01 (34:41):
But I didn't get to look back at her message.
I asked her which day that was.
Um, but it wait till you seewhat the food looks like.
You're gonna be like.
I don't need to see what theprice is gonna look like.
I'm gonna be like Oh, yeah,because they do like to eat some
good, expensive scrumptious.
But it's but it's always sodelicious.
But it is.
(35:02):
Um, anywho, so we'll see wherewhere when they're trying to go.
But um I love a good date nightwith them.
It's always a good time.
So um anyway, so we maybe dinnerwith them or um hanging out with
the in-laws.
SPEAKER_06 (35:19):
Because my brother wants me to help him, want um me
and well the brothers to helphim do some stuff around his
barn barn barnove.
SPEAKER_00 (35:26):
Barn Do.
SPEAKER_06 (35:27):
Barn Dove.
You know, that he got.
So, and then I don't know whatwe might have to do.
SPEAKER_01 (35:32):
But um What are you looking forward to?
SPEAKER_06 (35:35):
This week, man.
Oh this week.
I don't know.
Really.
Um I got another IEP Oh Lord.
SPEAKER_01 (35:45):
IEPs.
SPEAKER_06 (35:46):
I think.
No, actually, oh my God.
Yes, it is Friday.
The parent can only do Friday at3.15.
Yes, Friday at 3.15.
So I have to make sure I gotanother special ed teacher that
can be there, sit in.
Um but uh I got that, I'mlooking forward to knocking
down.
Like I said, looking forward toknocking them out because when I
(36:08):
knock them out, I'm done.
But um really, man, uh I don'twanna say nothing.
Um I w I want to cook somegreens one day and some chili
one day this week.
Um I don't know.
But I don't know if it's gonnabe cold enough.
SPEAKER_01 (36:25):
It's not gonna be cold.
SPEAKER_06 (36:26):
Yeah, the weather don't like it's cold, but I
still have cooked chili thisweek.
I know, I know.
This week.
But that we had the that day wehad the spaghetti.
SPEAKER_01 (36:34):
Ooh, it was good.
SPEAKER_06 (36:35):
It was very good.
You cooked that spaghetti, itwas very, very good.
Um, but uh I I think I mightjust cook some greens tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00 (36:44):
Oh that'd be good.
SPEAKER_06 (36:45):
Yeah, because I'm gonna do that in the I'ma start
them when I'm before I cook thebreakfast.
SPEAKER_00 (36:50):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (36:51):
So that I can let them cook real slow.
That'd be super tender.
SPEAKER_00 (36:54):
Mm.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (36:55):
So but um I don't know, man.
Really, like, uh it's gotta besomething that I'm looking
forward to.
I'm looking forward to gettingmy butt back in the gym and
going to physical therapy.
This physical therapy is uh Imean therapy meeting, though, is
gonna just be the consultation.
Yeah.
So they're not gonna doanything.
It's gonna stretch you and seewhere you are.
SPEAKER_01 (37:15):
Um But maybe after that, then what day is that?
SPEAKER_06 (37:18):
Wednesday.
SPEAKER_01 (37:19):
Oh, I was gonna say maybe then they have an
appointment for it.
SPEAKER_06 (37:21):
If they will, I'm gonna try to get a Thursday.
Immediate uh a Thursday, aFriday, well, they won't be to
open late Friday.
So I would try to do a Thursdayand um because I need dry
needling and stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (37:33):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06 (37:34):
Um But that's it.
Yeah, so so yeah, lookingforward to uh um getting my
back, going to the gym,hopefully.
I want to get back in the sauna.
Um playing the lottery so I canbecome rich, rich.
Um, but that's it.
Well, well, we're gonna get onup out of here.
(37:54):
We done held y'all long enough,hostage long enough.
Um I'm on another book.
I can't remember what it is.
God dang it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:04):
Well then don't even bring it up.
You don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_06 (38:07):
But it's it's it's a cool little thing.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (38:09):
Oh, he's gonna look it.
I'm gonna look it up.
He's gonna look at it.
SPEAKER_06 (38:11):
It's on Audible.
Um did I ever tell him what myother one was?
SPEAKER_01 (38:17):
Nope, you never did tell this.
The one you love.
That's what it's called.
SPEAKER_06 (38:20):
It's called The One You Love.
SPEAKER_01 (38:22):
What that's your new book?
SPEAKER_06 (38:23):
No, that's the one you love was the one, the real
good story about um by Kimberly,Kimberly, Kimberly something.
The one you love.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (38:34):
I will say while he's trying to find his one
book, um, I think it is thisweek, actually, um, which I am a
little um a little nervousabout.
We have one training with somemiddle schoolers, and uh there
are 80.
(38:55):
Did y'all hear me?
80 of them.
80 who students.
SPEAKER_05 (39:00):
I don't know that.
SPEAKER_01 (39:03):
That's making me a little nervous.
That's a lot of middle schoolersat one time.
So um we'll see.
The training, that's gonna be ahuge circle because the training
has to be done in a circle.
So that's gonna be a mighty bigcircle, and we will um see how
that goes.
Y'all wish me luck on onWednesday with 80, sixth,
(39:25):
seventh, and eighth graders,lordy.
SPEAKER_06 (39:28):
So that's a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01 (39:30):
I'm gonna definitely make sure I get some good rest,
have enough energy, have mycoffee that morning, have me a
backup, some kind of energydrink in my purse.
Um so that um I can engage thesebabies on Wednesday.
(39:54):
So we can have a good time andum keep them engaged and it'd be
a successful training.
This guy's still trying to findthe book, child.
Yeah, no, sorry, Tyra.
SPEAKER_06 (40:04):
I'm almost done.
I'll keep going.
SPEAKER_01 (40:06):
He just wants me to ramble on while he finds this
doggone book, but oh, so now youcan't talk.
No, because I wasn't preparedfor this.
So 80 Stuart's.
SPEAKER_06 (40:16):
Oh, no, but you love me by Kimberly Brown.
So y'all get that book.
If You Love Me by KimberlyBrown.
It is amazing.
The small book that I'm on rightnow is called Do Not Disturb
Good Sex in Progress.
And it is like it is includedwith your Audible.
(40:37):
So if you have Audible out thereand Are those books free or you
have to purchase them?
Um well, if you have the Audibleaccount.
SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
Audible account, you get okay.
SPEAKER_06 (40:46):
But this one, okay, let's say if you have the
Audible account, right?
SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06 (40:49):
And you know how you get the$14 credit every month
where you can download a book.
Well, this one doesn't chargeyou.
The one that anything, um, well,this is with your Audible
account, you don't get chargedfor that one.
But um it it's it's good.
It's good.
So I want to show you the if youlove me, what it looks like, so
(41:10):
that you guys can uh out therein the world, y'all can look it
up when you get a chance.
But if you love me, it's very,very good.
SPEAKER_01 (41:19):
Can't you just cut and paste it when you put this
out there?
SPEAKER_06 (41:22):
Oh, yeah, I can, huh?
SPEAKER_01 (41:23):
Yeah, just do that.
He's doing too much, y'all.
Ciao.
What am I doing?
He's trying to um I think we inZoom.
SPEAKER_06 (41:29):
That's what I think we are in Zoom.
SPEAKER_01 (41:31):
Yeah, what is he doing?
How are you gonna show it toy'all?
SPEAKER_06 (41:33):
I got my pants on.
Officer Jackson, you got pantson.
SPEAKER_01 (41:37):
So, goodness gracious.
All right, we leaving.
SPEAKER_06 (41:39):
We're getting up out of here.
So, um, thank y'all forwatching.
Um, I need this is what I needfor what the pastor say, I chur
uh a charge.
This is my charge for y'all.
Everybody that listens, I needyou to get at least two new
listeners each week.
At least two new listeners eachweek.
(42:02):
All right.
If you could do that for me,then hit us up on Instagram.
SPEAKER_01 (42:05):
And let us know.
SPEAKER_06 (42:06):
On the book.
Hey, man, I got I got my cousinlistening to y'all, man.
Y'all are something else.
Or they could say, man, mycousin, and I say, y'all full of
ish.
You know, whatever.
As long as they listen.
SPEAKER_00 (42:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (42:19):
Um, clearly listening to anything long
enough, you realize you learnedsomething.
All right.
Uh, but other than that, um,we're gonna get up out of here
and uh find out what we're gonnaeat tonight.
SPEAKER_01 (42:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (42:33):
And uh ain't nothing on TV.
Maybe we'll find something towatch on.
SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
Oh, there's always.
No.
SPEAKER_06 (42:38):
Ooh, hold up.
SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
No, no.
SPEAKER_06 (42:40):
Tell him what we watched.
SPEAKER_01 (42:42):
What?
SPEAKER_06 (42:42):
And it was good.
Ruth and Boaz.
SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
Oh, so good.
But let me tell you theconnection.
That's what I wanted to sharethis time.
The connection to Ruth and Boaz,where he uh washed her feet
before she stomped on thegrapes.
But do y'all remember?
If y'all listen to us, firstdate, somebody washed mine.
SPEAKER_06 (43:04):
I gave her foot scrub.
I washed on little crusty feet.
SPEAKER_01 (43:08):
Ruth and Boy.
SPEAKER_06 (43:10):
Them feet went from ah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:12):
They was not that never.
My feet never that, never.
SPEAKER_06 (43:15):
They was ah no.
Watched them, then they said ah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:19):
If you have not watched it, it is so, it's such,
it is a good movie.
It is very good movie.
Really enjoyed it.
But before we leave, I'll justgive a little quick little um
something to say, and then it'llbe me just giving a little jab
before we leave.
SPEAKER_05 (43:34):
Okay, go ahead, Jim.
SPEAKER_01 (43:35):
This person saying, Oh, there's nothing to watch.
Oh, we got plenty to watch.
Y'all won't know how manysubscriptions we got.
Uh, we got everything.
SPEAKER_06 (43:44):
I canceled Paramount.
SPEAKER_01 (43:45):
We got, let me just we got Hulu.
SPEAKER_06 (43:49):
We had Paramount, Peacock, uh Peacock comes with
the cable HBO.
SPEAKER_01 (43:58):
Um Disney Disney Plus.
SPEAKER_06 (44:03):
That comes with Hulu.
SPEAKER_01 (44:05):
Um we also have um Netflix.
We also have Prime.
That comes with Prime.
SPEAKER_05 (44:13):
We also have Amazon Prime.
SPEAKER_01 (44:15):
We also have Did I say Peacock already?
SPEAKER_06 (44:19):
We got BT Plus.
SPEAKER_01 (44:20):
BT Plus.
Um The stars come with that.
SPEAKER_06 (44:23):
We got started.
SPEAKER_01 (44:24):
Yeah, we got stars.
Chow.
We got plenty to watch, butwe're getting ready to get rid
of some of these subscriptionsbecause some of the stuff we do
not watch.
We don't have Zoo.
There's only really one showthat I watch on HBO, and that's
the the later version of Sex inthe City.
But I feel like we can savemoney because just one of the
things.
Cancel it then.
I am.
So then when they come out, youcan just buy the get the
(44:46):
subscription for the month orwhatever to watch just that
series.
Or you can buy the series fromsomewhere else.
Anyways, yeah, we got plenty towatch, child.
SPEAKER_05 (44:54):
We got a cutback.
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We're gonna cut back.
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So got a cut back.
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We're gonna cut back, save some dollars.
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Yep.
SPEAKER_06 (45:00):
Because times right now, boy.
SPEAKER_01 (45:02):
You never know.
SPEAKER_06 (45:03):
Going to the grocery store at Costco is crazy.
It is.
SPEAKER_01 (45:07):
It is so ridiculous.
Especially when you try to eathealthy.
Now you can go buy some cheapstuff and that's gonna kill you.
Crazy.
SPEAKER_06 (45:14):
But it's like going to Trader Joe's is almost
cheaper than going to becausethen we used to go to Trader
Joe's and be like, oh, this isexpensive.
But when you look at our groceryprices compared to Trader Joe's
price, we're like, we reallylike the last two times we went
to Trader Joe's, we was like,hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (45:30):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, Trader Joe's is a goodprice too.
SPEAKER_06 (45:33):
So, all right, so with that being said, we're
getting up out of here.
Please, yo, check out thosebooks, man.
I'm telling you, just check themout.
I I I wish I had somebody totalk to about the books.
SPEAKER_01 (45:45):
I know.
Maybe I'll do maybe I'll do theaudible part.
SPEAKER_06 (45:49):
That's all I do.
I do I do audible because I'm onthe way to work.
Uh well, I listen to our podcaston Monday.
SPEAKER_00 (45:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (45:55):
Uh because I'm stuck in traffic for there and at
back, it should be enough tolisten, finish it.
And then I listen to theaudiobooks the rest of the week.
SPEAKER_01 (46:03):
Okay.
Um, but I'm gonna I'm gonna dothat.
SPEAKER_06 (46:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (46:07):
Whatever book you're on now, I'll do because I'm not
gonna go backtrack.
SPEAKER_06 (46:11):
You still gonna listen to that one.
You gotta listen to that one.
It is good.
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Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (46:17):
I ain't worried about you listening to the one
with the vampires and stuff likethat.
SPEAKER_01 (46:20):
But I listen.
SPEAKER_06 (46:21):
Definitely you're gonna listen to the one I'm on
now, yeah, that's cool.
I know.
It's a good little funny story.
But the the other one, you gottalisten to that because you're
gonna be like, I know it ishealthy.
I know she did it.
Yeah.
But okay, we're out of here,man.
Um, thank y'all for listening.
Please tell a friend, tell afriend, remember, your goal,
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(46:45):
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SPEAKER_01 (47:00):
For you.
SPEAKER_06 (47:01):
Meet and greet.
For you.
That's right.
I might even bring you some deermeat.
For you.
That's right.
All right, y'all.
This is Keith Lough.
SPEAKER_01 (47:10):
This is Cree.
SPEAKER_06 (47:12):
And this is the Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
Thank you so much.
See you when we see you.
The Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
SPEAKER_06 (00:23):
Hello, everybody.
Welcome back.
And thank you for sticking withus for part two.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Part two.
SPEAKER_06 (00:29):
This is the Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
I am Kefla.
SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
I am Cree.
SPEAKER_06 (00:35):
And we were talking so long in the first episode
that we was like, yo, we can'tjust put all this out on one,
you know, one long episode.
People would probably just taketheir car and just run it off
over a bridge or something.
So we're not going to do that toy'all.
SPEAKER_01 (00:49):
I don't think y'all would do that anyways.
SPEAKER_06 (00:51):
Right.
So thank you so much forsticking with us.
And uh hey, let's get right intopart two.
His eye, one of his eyes ain'teven working right.
Look like them old uh Toyota.
Remember Toyota Celica?
Because probably like an uh 8S7when he used to have them lights
used to flash it like that.
(01:12):
One of his lights flashed likethat.
That's what he looked like.
SPEAKER_01 (01:17):
We could talk about him because he's trifling.
SPEAKER_06 (01:19):
Yeah, he's trifling.
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Oh, ragged aself.
SPEAKER_06 (01:22):
Oh, Buster.
Buster Brown.
All right.
So let's get on so we can dowhat we gotta do for the rest of
the day.
What we gotta do for the rest ofthe day.
SPEAKER_01 (01:32):
Nothing.
Which is the best thing.
SPEAKER_06 (01:35):
That's good.
All right.
Alabama ain't playing today.
Alabama State playing PrairieView.
I mean, we went to Prairie View.
It was, no, we didn't go toPrairie View.
They came to us.
I was thinking of MississippiState.
It was so cold and raining whenwe cheered there.
Arkansas Pine Bluff when I gotinto that fight with the other
mascot.
SPEAKER_00 (01:51):
I'm trying to find my company.
SPEAKER_06 (01:52):
In the hood.
SPEAKER_01 (01:53):
Oh, got them.
SPEAKER_06 (01:54):
All right, so we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
We're gonna end one question.
I got well, I had two, but wecould do one.
We could do other one.
SPEAKER_06 (02:00):
I mean, it depends on how fast we're doing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:02):
Oh, yeah, that is true.
All right, here we go.
Um, how do you oh I'll this isthis is the question, and then
I'll do it.
So I'll read the question.
How do you both deal with stressdifferently?
And what have you learned fromeach other's coping styles?
SPEAKER_02 (02:21):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
So well, what do you let's think about describing the
other when they're stressed?
Okay.
And how do you know when I'mstressed, and how do I know when
you're stressed?
SPEAKER_05 (02:39):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (02:41):
So who's you going first?
SPEAKER_01 (02:43):
You can start first.
How do you know when I'mstressed?
SPEAKER_06 (02:45):
Uh you're you're very short um in answers and
statements, um, and you forgetthat I'm grown, and you kind of
think that I'm a coworker or akid in your classroom that you
gotta tell you.
(03:06):
Yeah, no, a co-worker, becauseis like, how do you not
understand that?
And I'm like, 'cause I don't Idon't know what you're talking
about, you know.
Um I know because you've beendealing with them, and that's
you've you're seeing my my theirface on my shoulders.
Oh.
And so that's how you'reresponding.
(03:26):
And then how you know you'reyou're short and cold.
And um, you know, so that's howI know you're stressed.
SPEAKER_01 (03:37):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (03:38):
Um then that that was the okay.
SPEAKER_01 (03:41):
So then, okay, so so for me, how do I know when
you're stressed?
It's because you are short too.
And then you get nitpicky.
Like you just start things thatare like, why is he even worried
about that?
Like, why?
And it's kind of like becauseyou whatever the stress is,
(04:04):
like, that hasn't figured outhow to manage.
So then it's like trying tonitpick on things that can't
immediately be fixed or done.
And you get like nitpicky inthat way.
So then I know, oh, he's it'ssome kind of something he's
going on.
That's what I noticed.
Would you say that is true?
SPEAKER_06 (04:25):
Yeah, it's probably true.
SPEAKER_01 (04:28):
Probably.
SPEAKER_06 (04:29):
Yeah, I'd say probably true.
But I know I know why thenitpicky comes though.
SPEAKER_01 (04:34):
Why?
SPEAKER_06 (04:35):
The nitpicky comes because uh my life is cluttered.
And so if I can fix one thing, Ifelt like I've fixed something.
And my mind is cluttered, um youknow, but my mind is which is I
(04:55):
mean, and that's you know, ifyou study it, you'll know that a
person with a cluttered mindnormally has a cluttered
surrounding.
And even when my mind is fresh,like if after you know, when I
meditate and, you know, do myyoga and stuff like that, uh,
there are still things that Ican uh see that can because of
(05:20):
the clutter is still there.
But there are other places thatI can look at, maybe the thing
that I did nitpick and correctit, that's what I can focus on
to keep me from stressing again.
You know, so um and I know, youknow, people say, well, why
don't you declutter your stuff?
(05:41):
Uh people living in clutter orpeople that uh have cluttered
minds and cluttered lives, theyknow it's not as easy.
It's just like telling, really,I mean, I'm a I don't know, I
don't have an addiction, butit's like telling a person
that's addicted to stop.
SPEAKER_01 (05:56):
Just stop taking it, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (05:58):
Uh or it's like uh we had a discussion about, you
know, exercising.
It's like telling a person who'snever exercised before to start,
or a person who's trying to loseweight how to tell them to do
it.
And it's like it's not that easybecause we're seeing the results
we want to have as opposed toevery day of showing up, going
to the gym, showing up, eatingproperly, showing up of staying
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consistent.
And that's what this is.
Of course, it'd be so mucheasier if I just like went away
for two weeks and somebody justblew the whole thing up and got
rid of everything.
But then the s other stress willcome from me doing what?
Wondering what was thrown away.
SPEAKER_00 (06:36):
Yes.
SPEAKER_06 (06:37):
Or even the upset feeling of knowing that I needed
something and it is gone.
Yeah.
And I can never get it back.
You know, um, but I do get overthings, you know, quickly.
Yeah, I get over like you know,I have a moment, which I feel
like I deserve it because I feellike, and I'm probably going on,
but I feel like I wasn't able tohave moments growing up.
(07:00):
And in most most young blackmen, we don't get the
opportunity to have moments.
We can't be emotional.
We can't uh because they tell usto do what?
Suck it up, man up.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Man up.
Yeah.
I talk about that all the time.
SPEAKER_06 (07:11):
You know, and so train them.
Um I get over things, you know,easy and quickly.
Um one, because of that's thattraining that's in us, you know.
It's not healthy.
But then also I get over thingseasily from the healthy
perspective of knowing that it'snot that deep.
(07:32):
You know what I'm saying?
That uh if it's done, it's done.
If it's gone, it's gone.
Don't let it kill you.
Because I don't want to have aheart attack.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to be stressed.
I don't and I don't like forpeople to be mad at me that mean
something to me.
If I don't mean anything to you,you you Or if you don't mean
(07:55):
anything to me.
Oh yeah.
If you don't mean anything tome, sorry, then you could be mad
at me forever.
You know what I'm saying?
Like racist people that don'tknow, you can be mad at me
forever.
I don't, you know what I'msaying?
But somebody that's close to me,you really know me, you know
that I'll do anything for yourhappiness, which will actually
give me I will sacrifice minefor a minute because it your
(08:17):
happiness brings me happiness.
You know what I'm saying?
So um, but the clutter is whatis is what stresses me.
And I know I need help in it,and I'm not talking about just
doing it.
Like I need help.
And so I I and me seekingtherapy is my goal.
SPEAKER_01 (08:35):
I've been saying that.
SPEAKER_06 (08:36):
Yeah.
Um Well, you know, I've wantedto do therapy a while, a long
while.
You know.
I wanted to do uh Well, why whyhaven't you done it?
Um Well, I wanted to do couplestherapy.
But um I'll do singular therapyfirst, personal therapy.
SPEAKER_01 (08:56):
And then you can invite me.
SPEAKER_06 (08:57):
Yeah.
So I'll get you on board.
Uh do couples therapy one day.
But um, that's my goal.
SPEAKER_01 (09:05):
So what is your way of coping?
I know you mentioned meditation,yoga.
What else do you do?
SPEAKER_06 (09:23):
I mask it in in in other ways and trying to be
better in other areas.
You know what I mean?
So let's say for example, um, ifI am stressed and I'm causing
chaos because I'm short-temperedor short not really short-term.
SPEAKER_01 (09:41):
You don't create chaos.
SPEAKER_06 (09:43):
But I mean, uh if I not not chaos, but if I create,
oh well, you know, I'm gonnaleave them alone.
I I mask it by still doing whatI need to do.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, some people shut down.
They're stressed, they're notdoing anything.
SPEAKER_01 (09:59):
Yeah.
Oh, so maybe like you'll comeand cook something delicious.
SPEAKER_06 (10:02):
Or I still make sure I I take my time and prepare
what needs to be prepared.
Like I make sure if I know whereI cook, I'm gonna cook, I'm
gonna clean the kitchen, loadthe dishwasher.
You know, you need, you know, ifyou ask me to do something, I'm
gonna do it.
I'm gonna do everything I needto do so that it doesn't
(10:25):
compound any other problems orthings that I've caused because
of me being stressed.
So that's the that's the onlyway.
Other than that, man, I mean,you know, I just I I I put a
lot, like you said, a lot ofstuff I I uh pack it away, I
(10:46):
guess.
SPEAKER_01 (10:47):
Well, I think it's important though to be able to,
like, you sometimes get to aspace where, like, for me,
sometimes I need to slam a doorand I need to do something like
that.
And he will get frustrated withme for doing that.
And like, for instance, here'san example of um when we were
getting getting ready to get ourkitchen redone, and I was um, we
(11:11):
love our our contractor.
Um, but there was some kind ofmix up in communication on what
day they were starting orcoming.
And so then finally it was likewe had showered, we were getting
ready, we were in the bed.
And then I got the text messagethat said, he will be there
tomorrow at um in the morning tostart the demolition of the
(11:38):
kitchen.
Well, we hadn't gotteneverything out of all the
cabinets, and so for me, when Ihadn't got in the bed and I'm
ready to go to bed, becausesleep is my, I love sleep.
SPEAKER_06 (11:53):
It's her jam.
SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
Sleep is my jam.
And so having to get up and dothat, and I didn't want to do
it, and I was frustrated withthat, and um so I'm fussing
about it, and so he's like,Don't just I'll do it.
You if it's gonna make you feellike this, then don't, and so
and I'm you know, slammingthings and upset.
(12:16):
And so, um, because you don't, Isaid, you don't have to, you
know, be you don't need to, andI said, uh yes, I can be
frustrated and angry about this.
And so I think the idea ofmasking and not letting those
feelings just kind of showthrough how you needed to show
because it wasn't for a bitabout him, and it wasn't
(12:41):
anything that I was doing tohim.
Like I wasn't hitting him upsidethe head and you know, you know,
things towards him or cussing athim, or like it was nothing
towards him.
It's just me being frustrated,and and and but he just doesn't
like what I think like to seethat maybe for people that you
love or you care about, and Ijust don't want to maybe come
(13:04):
towards me, or I don't know.
So he and so I said, No, I canbe angry.
SPEAKER_06 (13:08):
You know what?
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
And I said that and I went on downstairs and I got
the we got the whole kitchenthing done.
SPEAKER_06 (13:14):
Pause real quick.
SPEAKER_01 (13:15):
Yes.
SPEAKER_06 (13:16):
For the slip.
Maybe that's where Kimani get itfrom.
SPEAKER_01 (13:19):
What?
SPEAKER_06 (13:20):
You know how when he sees somebody expelling some
kind of physical.
Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:24):
And he gets and he says he will leave the room or
he tries to say something funnyto like the situation.
SPEAKER_06 (13:29):
What can he do to correct it?
Yeah.
Or he'll be like, look, y'alljust I I'm gonna do it.
Uh-huh.
You said, you know, and when hegets up in the middle of the
night, he starts doing stuff tocorrect what it is as maybe
where he got it from.
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Uh-huh.
But it just made me think.
I was like, dang.
SPEAKER_01 (13:42):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06 (13:43):
And I I'm I I love that training.
SPEAKER_01 (13:46):
And I think then what's so funny is vice versa.
SPEAKER_06 (13:50):
The one that'll do the slamming.
SPEAKER_01 (13:52):
He's gonna do the slamming of the door.
He's gonna do the stomping upthe stairs and saying what he
got to say, going up the stairs.
And um, but I think whatbalances it is you're gonna say,
well, I you try to fix it, butwe in a place where I'm like,
(14:14):
no, because I'm not gonna lethim go do it all because that's
not what it is.
I'm just frustrated that it'slast minute we have to do it.
And so we have to allow peopleto feel and to be able to
express, if it's not hurtinganybody, allow people to feel um
through their frustration andand and if they need to slam a
(14:36):
door, that doesn't hurt anybody.
Okay, it doesn't hurt anybody,but there has to be a balance.
SPEAKER_06 (14:42):
So like so if this is allowing you to feel, uh-huh,
this is allowing us to heal.
SPEAKER_01 (14:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (14:50):
And that means just let us fix it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:54):
I I get that part, but for me, and maybe that's
also for me, is that I don'twant you.
I like that, I love that you dothat because that's what creates
the balance for me.
But I'm not, I'm fussing, butI'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_00 (15:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:11):
Right.
So it's like, I'm not gonna not,I wasn't gonna not go down there
and do it, but I'm justfrustrated that it was so last
minute.
SPEAKER_06 (15:18):
But you know me, I don't want if you're gonna fuss,
go.
Let me do it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:23):
He don't, yes, he don't want all the fusses.
SPEAKER_06 (15:25):
Go.
SPEAKER_01 (15:26):
But when he says that, then it also alerts me to
um you you need to regulateyourself.
So when he says that, I it alsoshows, which I think is okay,
like that is a healthy piece forhim to say, We're lucky listen,
listen, I do it.
(15:46):
If you're gonna be feeling likeall of this and this and this
and that, then that is my hintthat says, okay, you need to
regulate your stuff.
SPEAKER_06 (15:56):
We're lucky because I, you know, we I don't like a
back and forth.
You know what I mean?
And so it's like, so if you slamand I'm like, oh, I'm gonna
slam, you know, we I don't, youknow, so I'm always okay.
Well, look, what would I need todo to fix it?
You like, it's not that easy.
I'm like, yes.
Just give me the chance.
What it so what's wrong?
Is this okay?
Go away, let me handle it.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
No, and and I'll tell them I'm frustrated and I'm
angry.
SPEAKER_06 (16:19):
Yeah.
And I'm no uh, you can't, I youcan't uh let me fix it.
Yes.
It ain't that yes, it ain't thatsimple.
And it's the principal, okay,principal, let me.
SPEAKER_01 (16:28):
And so the same for him, when he comes in, sometimes
he'll come in the house and hejust starts saying all the
things he sees that's not rightand wrong.
And I'll say, Chow, you justwalked in the dome.
Don't nobody want to hear yousaying everything that's wrong
when you walk in.
SPEAKER_06 (16:46):
But I told y'all before I left, this had both of
me.
SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
And then he realizes, oh, let me regulate
myself.
So um I think that's also likeuh um um emotional intelligence.
SPEAKER_06 (16:59):
You know what?
I say when I do that and I comein and you say something, the
switch hits that says, I'm luckyto have somebody come home to.
I say that every time.
So, and I'm lucky to be able tocome home to this.
So when I come in, I'm like, ah,blah, blah, blah, blah, it's out
of place.
And then you say, Well, okay,hello to you too.
(17:20):
And I'm like, my bad.
And I that's what I'm saying inmy head.
Boy, you're lucky to have ahouse to come home to.
You're lucky to that you wantedto come home.
You're lucky, you know, and soit it instantly pulls me back.
And I'm not one to, you know, Idon't like to I'm I'm good at
uh, I guess saying keeping workat work, home at home.
(17:42):
But sometimes it's other stuff.
It spills off.
Yeah.
You know, and and so that's whatit, you know, it's little things
like that.
And it's and and and more timesthan not, it's nothing against
anybody else.
It's all me.
Whatever, whatever I'm like whenI'm pointing stuff, that's me.
(18:04):
Because I'm thinking about mymess, and it's like, now I got a
mess here too, that was clean.
You know what I'm saying?
Um, if somebody gets me upset,I'm not really mad, I'm mad at
myself that I let them get meupset.
You know, I'm mad that I letsomebody cut me off in traffic
(18:27):
and I got pissed.
You know, I'm mad that I gotfrustrated that I went
somewhere, it was closed becausemaybe I didn't research the time
and all that stuff.
So more times than not, I canfind a way to say, Kefla, what
did what was your part in it?
SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
And then So a coping strategy is you being
reflective.
SPEAKER_06 (18:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:48):
Like being able.
And that's all apart to me.
SPEAKER_06 (18:50):
It might happen again.
SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (18:52):
And I want to know how to, like I said, with
coping, what how am I able tohandle it if it happens again?
SPEAKER_01 (18:58):
And I I think um even like I talk a lot when I'm
doing my trainings for uh zonesof regulation and um talking to
um families about it.
And so slamming doors, likethat's not a good coping
(19:18):
strategy.
Um, you we if you are slamming adoor, you are dysregulated.
And so I'm gonna start callingyou dysregulated.
That is, you really are.
And so that's why I say none ofus are perfect.
There's a point where ouremotions get the best of us, and
we may do something that um isdysregulated, whether that's
(19:39):
slamming a door, whether that'suh were you allowed to do that
at home?
What I always say um at myhouse, nobody talked about being
upset, but you knew people wereupset because you heard cabinet
slam and you heard um door slam,but you also saw people's body
(20:04):
language, yeah.
Um, and then you or or or zerocommunication.
SPEAKER_03 (20:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:10):
And so um you knew that.
And so in that way, they weredysregulated, but nothing is
solved that way.
Yeah.
And so for me, what I learnedfrom that is with my own family,
no, we gonna talk like about it.
So luckily for me, um, I wasblessed to marry someone who
(20:32):
also was gonna talk about it.
But it's hard to do because ittakes two people to kind of talk
about it.
So if one person decides, I'mshutting down, I'm not
communicating when they aredysregulated or upset.
And the other person, that thatjust that that becomes quite
challenging for um for people.
But because nobody can read yourmind, because sometimes you
(20:54):
could be upset and nobody knowswhy why you're upset.
And I would say, even for us, wehave grown to that.
Because I know I will shut downand be like, I'm not talking.
And it might have been timeswhere you're like, I don't know
what you're mad about.
SPEAKER_06 (21:11):
But because that's was uh Yeah, I remember
sometimes you would say, I'm nottalking.
I said, Well, you ain't gottatalk, but but you gonna listen.
Yeah.
So I'm gonna talk.
Or you would say something like,uh uh I I'm not I'm not trying
to hear this no more and say,Well, ain't nothing wrong with
your ears, though.
So I'm gonna talk and you'regonna you'll hear me saying what
(21:31):
I'm gonna say, whether or notyou listen to me or not.
SPEAKER_01 (21:34):
So I think for me that was like a learned of like
how problems were urged in mywhen I was growing up.
Yeah.
Like I don't ever recall peoplelike talking about, you know,
like anywho, so but even for soI say So what's your let's get
to your thing?
What's your what's your coping?
Yeah.
Oh, I loved for a run.
(21:55):
Like working out for me is acoping strategy for me to kind
of let loose.
Also, driving in silence, likesometimes I that helps.
Try you phone call every day?
I don't.
Sometimes if sometimes I don'tanswer people's calls.
So sometimes people may call onmy ride.
You're gonna answer and I'll I'min like asylum or I just I'm not
(22:18):
in the space where I feel likeum talking depending upon um
what it is.
Um, so that is for me, and thenalso um something to take your
mind off of, like somethingfunny or humorous to kind of
like I know people say likeTikTok and stuff like is is like
(22:39):
a uh a social media addiction,but it really can distract you
um and and that.
And then also like you said,remembering what you should what
you should be grateful orthankful for, like what are the
joys and things in my life wherethis small little bit of
(23:01):
something is not even worth mebeing that upset, especially if
it's like thinking about circleof control, like if it's
something I can't control and Iand I can't change, then there's
no need of being upset over it.
If it is something that I dohave control over or or are it
can possibly change, then I haveto sit and think about how how I
(23:25):
can I make that happen.
SPEAKER_03 (23:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (23:28):
Um, and I also believe I'm a true believer in
reflecting.
So reflecting in when things arenot going right, like what's my
part in it and why it's notgoing right, thinking about it
that way.
Also, I reflect even when thingsare great.
SPEAKER_06 (23:47):
You have to because how can it be better?
You gotta repeat it too.
Yeah, you like, well, this wasgreat.
So what did I do so that I canrepeat it?
Just like if you're playingsports and you run the play
right, well, you gotta what didI do that made the play right?
SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (24:00):
You know, so that I can do that again.
Like a recipe.
What did I use?
Okay, I used that.
And it made it perfect.
I'm gonna make sure I use those,that vanilla extract again, you
know.
So you have to reflectpositively and negatively.
SPEAKER_01 (24:12):
So I think about it in that way.
And um, and also um I have alluh also grown up as a person,
like when somebody like one timeyou do something where I'm like,
uh, I'm done fooling with you.
I could cut people off like andbe done.
(24:34):
I have tried to work on thatbecause people aren't perfect.
I'm not perfect, and I wonder, Iwouldn't want anybody just to
kind of like cut me off likethat.
So also figuring out my part inthat to help to maintain
important relationships to me.
Yeah.
Um, but I'm also a believer inprotecting my peace.
(24:56):
Of course.
And so that comes through thereflection of being able to see
is there something I can do?
If it's not, then let me figureout what I'm gonna do to protect
my peace.
And sometimes um uh separatingfrom specific people um and
(25:17):
deciding what space you willallow for them to have in your
life is maintaining arelationship because if you
allow it to continue, then itwill be a done done I'm like you
don't exist person.
(25:37):
So sometimes deciding doing thatseparation is also helpful to
maintain um that relationship.
I'm thinking specifically if youthink about relationships that
are family, you know.
So um just to maintain that andthen to also um ensure a healthy
(26:01):
family dynamic.
SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (26:02):
So, anyways, all right.
SPEAKER_06 (26:04):
All right, so let's get to, you know, let's go ahead
and wrap it up so we can get outof it because we were supposed
to be 45.
Oh, uh hour.
We way past Are we really?
SPEAKER_01 (26:14):
It don't even seem like we've been talking that
long anyways.
SPEAKER_05 (26:23):
So let's uh let's get to our uh side eye of the
week.
SPEAKER_01 (26:27):
Oh gosh, my ready all right.
SPEAKER_06 (26:32):
So um my side eye of the week is um my job, lack of
communication.
Um it's just like I don't know.
Uh I'm happy for my job, Godknows I am.
I'm happy where I'm working, butit's like lack of communication.
(26:55):
Um I don't know, uh I don'tknow.
So I'm not gonna go into detail.
Well, forget it.
Um I think that if you involvesomeone, say, hey, I need you to
teach this class now, and thenhey, we're not gonna need you to
teach this class anymore.
(27:15):
You know what I mean?
Just let me know.
Don't don't just all of a suddenI'm like, oh, prepared and like,
okay, and then somebody said, Ohno, I got all my kids uh for the
uh for the tutoring session.
You don't have them anymore.
I said, I don't what what oh Ididn't know that.
Like that, you know, stuff likethat.
Like let me know what you knowwhat's going on.
(27:35):
Um it's just like it's beprofessional, you know,
communicate to people.
Um we always talk aboutcommunication is key when we're,
you know, dealing with parentsand kids, but you know, I think
it's communication is key forany human being.
You know, that's the reason whywe have mouths and ears, and um
(27:58):
we also have eyes because we canread an email.
So communicate through an emailif you don't want to communicate
verbally.
But um that's my side out of it.
It's a lack of communicationfrom the higher-ups, thinking
everything is freaking uhprivate.
Um it's just uh Unnecessarily.
SPEAKER_01 (28:16):
It is.
Like those even It's secrecy.
SPEAKER_06 (28:18):
Okay, then when something go down and you need
some support, and we can't helpyou.
And I feel like it's o it'sreally getting to the point
where I'm noticing that you'reonly you're not, you know,
normally it's like, oh, we'rewe're a community, we're a team.
We're not a team.
It's like now it's like we'remore so the objects that you
(28:42):
would use to facilitate a game.
You know what I mean?
So either I'm the the ball, I'mthe yard marker, I'm the goal,
but I'm not the player in theteam.
You know what I mean?
That's what I'm starting to see.
And um, and it's not just me.
You know, it's other people.
SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
Other people feel the same way.
SPEAKER_06 (29:04):
Right.
And so it's uh but that's notgood.
SPEAKER_01 (29:08):
That doesn't feel good.
SPEAKER_06 (29:09):
No, it doesn't feel good, and it's not good for
education.
It's not good for morale, it'snot good for uh, you know, a
company aspect.
It's just it's not it's not goodat all.
So my side of the week is thatI'ma hopefully some more
exciting things are happeningfor a side eye of the week, but
because I know recently it'sbeen my job.
SPEAKER_00 (29:28):
Uh-huh.
It has been.
SPEAKER_06 (29:29):
But also it's been, I've been seeing it from a
different perspective.
You know, because back in, youknow, when I'm in the dungeon,
what we call the P area.
SPEAKER_00 (29:36):
Nobody is bothering it.
Nobody bothers.
Right.
SPEAKER_06 (29:39):
And and and, you know, you see what it is.
And there was still some stuffthere I could have complained
about.
But um now, what I see is, youknow, and I'm to the point, like
say, I got more good yearsbehind me than I do in front.
SPEAKER_02 (29:52):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06 (29:52):
Well, those are good years in front, but I'm saying,
you know, you you old in thegame, I've seen it.
And now I'm in a position whereYou know, I can go anywhere and
teach what I'm teaching now.
So you know, they need it.
They need me.
SPEAKER_02 (30:06):
That's true.
SPEAKER_06 (30:06):
Well, you think they need me.
A lot of people, they don't careabout representation.
They don't care about lack ofblack males in the classroom
certain places.
SPEAKER_01 (30:15):
So Kimai and I are talking about that.
SPEAKER_06 (30:17):
Yeah.
Um, but that's my side eye.
What's your side eye?
SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
Um, I'm side eyeing whataburger that is by it.
SPEAKER_06 (30:25):
Look, okay, I got two side eyes.
Right here.
Matter of fact, I mean Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Let me tell you.
So yesterday, after we had thoselittle bitty chicken wings, of
course, we were hungry after theconcert.
The concert was a full fourhours.
SPEAKER_06 (30:42):
Yes.
I was happy.
I I love a long concert becauseyou feel like you pay your
money.
And I hate when you're like, Ididn't.
Yeah.
You know.
SPEAKER_01 (30:49):
So it was four hours.
So when we got home, we werelike, only thing like really
open near us was theWhataburger.
SPEAKER_06 (30:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:55):
We get to order Whataburger.
First of all, I ordered myself acheeseburger kid's meal.
Because I'm the cheese, though.
I knew it was late, so I wasordered something kind of late.
He ordered the chicken sandwichmeal, which he always orders.
First, the fries were cold.
We sat in line forever.
SPEAKER_06 (31:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:11):
So you would think that they're good 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_06 (31:14):
They'd be fresh.
SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
Making fresh stuff.
That's why the line is taking solong because you're making fresh
stuff.
Fries cold.
Then I get home to eat mycheeseburger.
I got a grilled cheese thatlooked like they grilled the
cheese four hours ago.
Yeah.
Terrible.
His chicken sandwich, burntpatty.
SPEAKER_06 (31:31):
Then too.
SPEAKER_01 (31:32):
Couldn't even eat it.
SPEAKER_06 (31:34):
I threw it in the trash.
SPEAKER_01 (31:35):
So disappointed.
SPEAKER_06 (31:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
In that mess that we got from uh one of the water
burger.
So his one of his students worksthere.
SPEAKER_06 (31:43):
I'ma complain to her on Monday.
She wasn't there then, but I'mgoing to tell her say, yo, you
y'all need to use the channel.
SPEAKER_01 (31:50):
In actuality, had it not been so late, we should have
turned around.
Turn around and be like took itright on back.
Because there ain't no tellingwhat we would have gotten back
in return.
Take a body.
I'm always nervous about whenyou turn food back in and ask
for something new.
SPEAKER_06 (32:04):
Because the moral morale of people has changed.
Just like, you know, customerservice used to be great.
People wanted to do right byyou.
Now people don't give a damn.
And they'll do whatever.
And you know, people you hearabout people doing crazy things.
And hey, who knows what kind ofsaliva we've eaten in our food
before.
But we're not complainers, buteven still.
SPEAKER_01 (32:23):
Yeah, we yeah, we normally are.
And so I I I'm glad I bought akid's meal because I'm just
thinking to myself, if I wouldhave bought a yeah, we didn't
spend a lot of money on that.
SPEAKER_06 (32:34):
Yeah, because mine was a little extra because I
upgraded to the kids.
To onion rings.
SPEAKER_01 (32:38):
Mm-hmm.
But that was a mess.
Outside iron, whataburger.
Side iron.
Um over there near us inAckworth.
Yeah.
That they were um that was somenasty food.
I mean, I don't think I hadanything like that.
A sick of you.
In a long way.
Yeah, that was horrible.
That was I mean, it wasterrible.
(32:58):
We should have just gone toWaffle House.
SPEAKER_06 (33:00):
Should have.
Mm-mm.
No, that would have beenterrible.
That would have been terribletoo.
SPEAKER_01 (33:03):
At least it would have been hot and fresh.
SPEAKER_06 (33:04):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
I mean, because they cook it right there.
SPEAKER_06 (33:07):
Yeah, they ain't fighting on our side at Waffle
House.
SPEAKER_01 (33:09):
Uh-uh.
We could have done the WaffleHouse right there.
They would have it would havebeen hot and fresh, and um, it
would have had a whole bunch ofgood.
That's one reason I don't likeWaffle House.
One time I went to Waffle House,but I saw them uh scooping out
that oil on the thing.
I was like, oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_06 (33:24):
That's what they do.
Put that.
Yeah.
Well, it ain't oil, I think it'smelted butter.
SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
Oh, anyway.
SPEAKER_06 (33:29):
Uh yeah, but it's the melted butter.
SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
They put it on the waffle iron and on the griddle.
SPEAKER_05 (33:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
But they use an awful lot of oil.
And that just made me feel like,oh, that's why people like it.
I know they do, but it made mefeel like, oh, my God was eating
a million calories.
Anyways.
SPEAKER_06 (33:45):
All right, what are we looking forward to this week?
SPEAKER_01 (33:47):
Ooh, I don't know what I'm looking forward to.
SPEAKER_06 (33:51):
The weather's gonna be high around 70 something now
this week.
SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
It's gonna be a little nice.
SPEAKER_06 (33:56):
It's gonna be a little, I think it might be a
little humid though, becauseit's like that weather getting
back up to hot.
You know, I don't know.
It may be clear.
SPEAKER_01 (34:02):
But uh November 4th is voting.
SPEAKER_06 (34:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
So make sure y'all get out there and vote because
Lord knows what we're gonna do.
SPEAKER_06 (34:07):
Early voting, we need to we need to vote.
SPEAKER_01 (34:09):
Um make sure you vote to make a difference.
Uh I'm not quite sure what I'mlooking forward to.
I know um I hear that my in-lawsare coming this way.
Yeah.
So um I think we'll cooksomething.
SPEAKER_06 (34:22):
We should, huh?
SPEAKER_01 (34:23):
Yeah, um, they're they're supposed to be coming
this way.
So maybe that'll be tell MeganPoe.
Well, also um one of our for ourcouple friends that we love to
go out to dinner with, they umwe're talking about going out to
dinner on Saturday.
SPEAKER_06 (34:37):
Um must be the bye week for Northern Illinois.
Maybe so.
Uh J.
SPEAKER_01 (34:41):
But I didn't get to look back at her message.
I asked her which day that was.
Um, but it wait till you seewhat the food looks like.
You're gonna be like.
I don't need to see what theprice is gonna look like.
I'm gonna be like Oh, yeah,because they do like to eat some
good, expensive scrumptious.
But it's but it's always sodelicious.
But it is.
(35:02):
Um, anywho, so we'll see wherewhere when they're trying to go.
But um I love a good date nightwith them.
It's always a good time.
So um anyway, so we maybe dinnerwith them or um hanging out with
the in-laws.
SPEAKER_06 (35:19):
Because my brother wants me to help him, want um me
and well the brothers to helphim do some stuff around his
barn barn barnove.
SPEAKER_00 (35:26):
Barn Do.
SPEAKER_06 (35:27):
Barn Dove.
You know, that he got.
So, and then I don't know whatwe might have to do.
SPEAKER_01 (35:32):
But um What are you looking forward to?
SPEAKER_06 (35:35):
This week, man.
Oh this week.
I don't know.
Really.
Um I got another IEP Oh Lord.
SPEAKER_01 (35:45):
IEPs.
SPEAKER_06 (35:46):
I think.
No, actually, oh my God.
Yes, it is Friday.
The parent can only do Friday at3.15.
Yes, Friday at 3.15.
So I have to make sure I gotanother special ed teacher that
can be there, sit in.
Um but uh I got that, I'mlooking forward to knocking
down.
Like I said, looking forward toknocking them out because when I
(36:08):
knock them out, I'm done.
But um really, man, uh I don'twanna say nothing.
Um I w I want to cook somegreens one day and some chili
one day this week.
Um I don't know.
But I don't know if it's gonnabe cold enough.
SPEAKER_01 (36:25):
It's not gonna be cold.
SPEAKER_06 (36:26):
Yeah, the weather don't like it's cold, but I
still have cooked chili thisweek.
I know, I know.
This week.
But that we had the that day wehad the spaghetti.
SPEAKER_01 (36:34):
Ooh, it was good.
SPEAKER_06 (36:35):
It was very good.
You cooked that spaghetti, itwas very, very good.
Um, but uh I I think I mightjust cook some greens tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00 (36:44):
Oh that'd be good.
SPEAKER_06 (36:45):
Yeah, because I'm gonna do that in the I'ma start
them when I'm before I cook thebreakfast.
SPEAKER_00 (36:50):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (36:51):
So that I can let them cook real slow.
That'd be super tender.
SPEAKER_00 (36:54):
Mm.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (36:55):
So but um I don't know, man.
Really, like, uh it's gotta besomething that I'm looking
forward to.
I'm looking forward to gettingmy butt back in the gym and
going to physical therapy.
This physical therapy is uh Imean therapy meeting, though, is
gonna just be the consultation.
Yeah.
So they're not gonna doanything.
It's gonna stretch you and seewhere you are.
SPEAKER_01 (37:15):
Um But maybe after that, then what day is that?
SPEAKER_06 (37:18):
Wednesday.
SPEAKER_01 (37:19):
Oh, I was gonna say maybe then they have an
appointment for it.
SPEAKER_06 (37:21):
If they will, I'm gonna try to get a Thursday.
Immediate uh a Thursday, aFriday, well, they won't be to
open late Friday.
So I would try to do a Thursdayand um because I need dry
needling and stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (37:33):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06 (37:34):
Um But that's it.
Yeah, so so yeah, lookingforward to uh um getting my
back, going to the gym,hopefully.
I want to get back in the sauna.
Um playing the lottery so I canbecome rich, rich.
Um, but that's it.
Well, well, we're gonna get onup out of here.
(37:54):
We done held y'all long enough,hostage long enough.
Um I'm on another book.
I can't remember what it is.
God dang it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:04):
Well then don't even bring it up.
You don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_06 (38:07):
But it's it's it's a cool little thing.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (38:09):
Oh, he's gonna look it.
I'm gonna look it up.
He's gonna look at it.
SPEAKER_06 (38:11):
It's on Audible.
Um did I ever tell him what myother one was?
SPEAKER_01 (38:17):
Nope, you never did tell this.
The one you love.
That's what it's called.
SPEAKER_06 (38:20):
It's called The One You Love.
SPEAKER_01 (38:22):
What that's your new book?
SPEAKER_06 (38:23):
No, that's the one you love was the one, the real
good story about um by Kimberly,Kimberly, Kimberly something.
The one you love.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (38:34):
I will say while he's trying to find his one
book, um, I think it is thisweek, actually, um, which I am a
little um a little nervousabout.
We have one training with somemiddle schoolers, and uh there
are 80.
(38:55):
Did y'all hear me?
80 of them.
80 who students.
SPEAKER_05 (39:00):
I don't know that.
SPEAKER_01 (39:03):
That's making me a little nervous.
That's a lot of middle schoolersat one time.
So um we'll see.
The training, that's gonna be ahuge circle because the training
has to be done in a circle.
So that's gonna be a mighty bigcircle, and we will um see how
that goes.
Y'all wish me luck on onWednesday with 80, sixth,
(39:25):
seventh, and eighth graders,lordy.
SPEAKER_06 (39:28):
So that's a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01 (39:30):
I'm gonna definitely make sure I get some good rest,
have enough energy, have mycoffee that morning, have me a
backup, some kind of energydrink in my purse.
Um so that um I can engage thesebabies on Wednesday.
(39:54):
So we can have a good time andum keep them engaged and it'd be
a successful training.
This guy's still trying to findthe book, child.
Yeah, no, sorry, Tyra.
SPEAKER_06 (40:04):
I'm almost done.
I'll keep going.
SPEAKER_01 (40:06):
He just wants me to ramble on while he finds this
doggone book, but oh, so now youcan't talk.
No, because I wasn't preparedfor this.
So 80 Stuart's.
SPEAKER_06 (40:16):
Oh, no, but you love me by Kimberly Brown.
So y'all get that book.
If You Love Me by KimberlyBrown.
It is amazing.
The small book that I'm on rightnow is called Do Not Disturb
Good Sex in Progress.
And it is like it is includedwith your Audible.
(40:37):
So if you have Audible out thereand Are those books free or you
have to purchase them?
Um well, if you have the Audibleaccount.
SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
Audible account, you get okay.
SPEAKER_06 (40:46):
But this one, okay, let's say if you have the
Audible account, right?
SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06 (40:49):
And you know how you get the$14 credit every month
where you can download a book.
Well, this one doesn't chargeyou.
The one that anything, um, well,this is with your Audible
account, you don't get chargedfor that one.
But um it it's it's good.
It's good.
So I want to show you the if youlove me, what it looks like, so
(41:10):
that you guys can uh out therein the world, y'all can look it
up when you get a chance.
But if you love me, it's very,very good.
SPEAKER_01 (41:19):
Can't you just cut and paste it when you put this
out there?
SPEAKER_06 (41:22):
Oh, yeah, I can, huh?
SPEAKER_01 (41:23):
Yeah, just do that.
He's doing too much, y'all.
Ciao.
What am I doing?
He's trying to um I think we inZoom.
SPEAKER_06 (41:29):
That's what I think we are in Zoom.
SPEAKER_01 (41:31):
Yeah, what is he doing?
How are you gonna show it toy'all?
SPEAKER_06 (41:33):
I got my pants on.
Officer Jackson, you got pantson.
SPEAKER_01 (41:37):
So, goodness gracious.
All right, we leaving.
SPEAKER_06 (41:39):
We're getting up out of here.
So, um, thank y'all forwatching.
Um, I need this is what I needfor what the pastor say, I chur
uh a charge.
This is my charge for y'all.
Everybody that listens, I needyou to get at least two new
listeners each week.
At least two new listeners eachweek.
(42:02):
All right.
If you could do that for me,then hit us up on Instagram.
SPEAKER_01 (42:05):
And let us know.
SPEAKER_06 (42:06):
On the book.
Hey, man, I got I got my cousinlistening to y'all, man.
Y'all are something else.
Or they could say, man, mycousin, and I say, y'all full of
ish.
You know, whatever.
As long as they listen.
SPEAKER_00 (42:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (42:19):
Um, clearly listening to anything long
enough, you realize you learnedsomething.
All right.
Uh, but other than that, um,we're gonna get up out of here
and uh find out what we're gonnaeat tonight.
SPEAKER_01 (42:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (42:33):
And uh ain't nothing on TV.
Maybe we'll find something towatch on.
SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
Oh, there's always.
No.
SPEAKER_06 (42:38):
Ooh, hold up.
SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
No, no.
SPEAKER_06 (42:40):
Tell him what we watched.
SPEAKER_01 (42:42):
What?
SPEAKER_06 (42:42):
And it was good.
Ruth and Boaz.
SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
Oh, so good.
But let me tell you theconnection.
That's what I wanted to sharethis time.
The connection to Ruth and Boaz,where he uh washed her feet
before she stomped on thegrapes.
But do y'all remember?
If y'all listen to us, firstdate, somebody washed mine.
SPEAKER_06 (43:04):
I gave her foot scrub.
I washed on little crusty feet.
SPEAKER_01 (43:08):
Ruth and Boy.
SPEAKER_06 (43:10):
Them feet went from ah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:12):
They was not that never.
My feet never that, never.
SPEAKER_06 (43:15):
They was ah no.
Watched them, then they said ah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:19):
If you have not watched it, it is so, it's such,
it is a good movie.
It is very good movie.
Really enjoyed it.
But before we leave, I'll justgive a little quick little um
something to say, and then it'llbe me just giving a little jab
before we leave.
SPEAKER_05 (43:34):
Okay, go ahead, Jim.
SPEAKER_01 (43:35):
This person saying, Oh, there's nothing to watch.
Oh, we got plenty to watch.
Y'all won't know how manysubscriptions we got.
Uh, we got everything.
SPEAKER_06 (43:44):
I canceled Paramount.
SPEAKER_01 (43:45):
We got, let me just we got Hulu.
SPEAKER_06 (43:49):
We had Paramount, Peacock, uh Peacock comes with
the cable HBO.
SPEAKER_01 (43:58):
Um Disney Disney Plus.
SPEAKER_06 (44:03):
That comes with Hulu.
SPEAKER_01 (44:05):
Um we also have um Netflix.
We also have Prime.
That comes with Prime.
SPEAKER_05 (44:13):
We also have Amazon Prime.
SPEAKER_01 (44:15):
We also have Did I say Peacock already?
SPEAKER_06 (44:19):
We got BT Plus.
SPEAKER_01 (44:20):
BT Plus.
Um The stars come with that.
SPEAKER_06 (44:23):
We got started.
SPEAKER_01 (44:24):
Yeah, we got stars.
Chow.
We got plenty to watch, butwe're getting ready to get rid
of some of these subscriptionsbecause some of the stuff we do
not watch.
We don't have Zoo.
There's only really one showthat I watch on HBO, and that's
the the later version of Sex inthe City.
But I feel like we can savemoney because just one of the
things.
Cancel it then.
I am.
So then when they come out, youcan just buy the get the
(44:46):
subscription for the month orwhatever to watch just that
series.
Or you can buy the series fromsomewhere else.
Anyways, yeah, we got plenty towatch, child.
SPEAKER_05 (44:54):
We got a cutback.
SPEAKER_01 (44:55):
We're gonna cut back.
SPEAKER_05 (44:56):
So got a cut back.
SPEAKER_01 (44:57):
We're gonna cut back, save some dollars.
SPEAKER_05 (44:59):
Yep.
SPEAKER_06 (45:00):
Because times right now, boy.
SPEAKER_01 (45:02):
You never know.
SPEAKER_06 (45:03):
Going to the grocery store at Costco is crazy.
It is.
SPEAKER_01 (45:07):
It is so ridiculous.
Especially when you try to eathealthy.
Now you can go buy some cheapstuff and that's gonna kill you.
Crazy.
SPEAKER_06 (45:14):
But it's like going to Trader Joe's is almost
cheaper than going to becausethen we used to go to Trader
Joe's and be like, oh, this isexpensive.
But when you look at our groceryprices compared to Trader Joe's
price, we're like, we reallylike the last two times we went
to Trader Joe's, we was like,hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (45:30):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, Trader Joe's is a goodprice too.
SPEAKER_06 (45:33):
So, all right, so with that being said, we're
getting up out of here.
Please, yo, check out thosebooks, man.
I'm telling you, just check themout.
I I I wish I had somebody totalk to about the books.
SPEAKER_01 (45:45):
I know.
Maybe I'll do maybe I'll do theaudible part.
SPEAKER_06 (45:49):
That's all I do.
I do I do audible because I'm onthe way to work.
Uh well, I listen to our podcaston Monday.
SPEAKER_00 (45:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (45:55):
Uh because I'm stuck in traffic for there and at
back, it should be enough tolisten, finish it.
And then I listen to theaudiobooks the rest of the week.
SPEAKER_01 (46:03):
Okay.
Um, but I'm gonna I'm gonna dothat.
SPEAKER_06 (46:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (46:07):
Whatever book you're on now, I'll do because I'm not
gonna go backtrack.
SPEAKER_06 (46:11):
You still gonna listen to that one.
You gotta listen to that one.
It is good.
SPEAKER_01 (46:16):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (46:17):
I ain't worried about you listening to the one
with the vampires and stuff likethat.
SPEAKER_01 (46:20):
But I listen.
SPEAKER_06 (46:21):
Definitely you're gonna listen to the one I'm on
now, yeah, that's cool.
I know.
It's a good little funny story.
But the the other one, you gottalisten to that because you're
gonna be like, I know it ishealthy.
I know she did it.
Yeah.
But okay, we're out of here,man.
Um, thank y'all for listening.
Please tell a friend, tell afriend, remember, your goal,
your charge is to have twopeople, all right, that you know
(46:45):
to listen to us on this umplatform.
We're trying to get thesenumbers up, man.
I'm telling you.
All right, because if you cansay, hey, I got 50 people when
we get real big and get thoselive shows, and you prove VIP.
You right, VIP.
SPEAKER_01 (47:00):
For you.
SPEAKER_06 (47:01):
Meet and greet.
For you.
That's right.
I might even bring you some deermeat.
For you.
That's right.
All right, y'all.
This is Keith Lough.
SPEAKER_01 (47:10):
This is Cree.
SPEAKER_06 (47:12):
And this is the Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
Thank you so much.
See you when we see you.
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