October 2, 2023 • 36 mins
Imagine a world where our churches miss the beauty of miracles due to a strict interpretation of the law. That's the reality we unpack in our deep-dive into John 5:1-18, where we explore the astounding miracle of a man healed after 38 years of affliction and the startling reaction of the Jews to this event. We question the Jews' fixation on the Sabbath laws over the marvel of the miracle itself and ponder whether our modern-day churches could be caught in a similar web of legalism.
Next, we turn our attention to the powerful words Jesus imparts to the man he's healed. We dissect his warning to “sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you” and what it could mean for us today. We then journey into Jesus' profound speech on eternal life, judgment, and his unique kinship with the Father.
Finally, we delve into Jesus' confrontation with the Pharisees about their lack of faith. We dissect the implications of the resurrection of life and judgment and the idea that Jesus doesn't need validation from mere mortals. This episode is a smorgasbord of thought-provoking discussion on faith, miracles, and the divine authority of Jesus. So pull up a chair, grab your Bible, and let's ponder the mysteries of faith together.
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Ken (00:08):
Hi, you are listening to the Regular Guys Bible Study
Podcast.
We are your host, Ken and.
Steve, and we are just RegularGuys studying the Bible, not
theologians, that's right.
Not theologians.
Steve (00:28):
Oh man, steve, Happy Thursday Ken.
Ken (00:33):
Happy.
Well, they don't know.
It's Thursday.
Why do you say happy Thursday?
They could be listening to iton a Tuesday or Monday.
Steve (00:39):
Now they have to re-listen to it on a Thursday.
Ken (00:43):
Okay, okay, make that commitment.
If you're listening to it nowand it's not Thursday, you have
to re-listen on Thursday.
So it makes sense.
Anyway, before Steve said thatstupid thing, I've been having a
great week.
How about you, steve?
Steve (01:00):
You've been all right.
I can't complain, I will butyou shouldn't.
Ken (01:05):
You can complain and you probably will I probably have.
Yeah, I don't think I'vecomplained this week, because
everything has been great.
I've had so many answers toprayer this week and I really
needed it because I really feltdown.
Steve (01:26):
Is that why you didn't show up to accountability group
on Wednesday?
Ken (01:31):
No, you know what?
I really thought that, sincepeople were missing, that we
weren't having it.
But when you reminded me in thetext, while you were there by
yourself, I do remember now thatChris had said, you said well,
I think y'all should meet anyway.
Steve (01:49):
Even if it's just two.
Ken (01:51):
Yeah, so it really had to do with the length of drive and
the early morning hour.
But you know what I think?
Actually, god really blessed mytime that morning and I had a
really good quiet time.
So we're good for you.
Steve (02:11):
I was on the road for 40 minutes.
Ken (02:14):
Sorry.
I am so sorry.
All right, guys, we are goingto study John, chapter five
today, and it is a pretty longchapter where Jesus really goes
on.
Quite.
He gets on a soapbox, and notliterally.
(02:37):
No, they didn't have soap.
I don't know what kind of boxhe was on, but it might not have
been a soapbox, might have beena milk carton or something All
right.
So why don't we read verse onethrough verse 18, right before
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Jesus goes on his speech?
Steve (03:03):
All right.
After this, there was a feastof the Jews, and Jesus went up
to Jerusalem after this?
Ken (03:10):
What did we just talk about ?
Jesus said just healed theofficial son, so and so it's
after that.
Sorry about that.
Steve (03:19):
Go ahead, but it's not a very specific time.
This could have been months.
Ken (03:23):
Yeah, this is not a lot of.
The times has been the next day.
This is just some time after.
Steve (03:31):
Now there is in Jerusalem , by the sheep gate up, who in
Aramaic called Bethesda, whichhas five roofed colonnades.
In these lay a multitude ofinvalids, blind, lame and
paralyzed.
One man was there who had beenin invalid for 38 years.
When Jesus saw him lying thereand knew that he had already
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been there a long time, he saidto him Do you want to be healed?
The sick man answered him Sir,I have no one to put me into the
pool when the water is stirredup.
And while I am going anothersteps down before me, jesus said
to him Get up, take your bedand walk.
And at once the man was healedand he took his bed and walked.
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Now that day was the Sabbath.
So the Jews said to the man whohad been healed it is the
Sabbath and it is unlawful foryou to take up your bed.
But, he answered them, the manwho healed me.
That man said to me Take upyour bed and walk.
They asked him who is the manwho said to you Take up your bed
and walk.
Now the man who had been healeddid not know who it was, for
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Jesus had withdrawn and therewas a crowd in that place.
After Jesus found him in thetemple and said to him See, you
are well.
Send no more that nothing worsemay happen to you.
The man went away and told theJews that it was Jesus who had
healed him.
And this is why the Jews werepersecuting Jesus, because he
was doing these things on theSabbath.
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But Jesus answered them myFather is working until now and
I am working.
This is this was why the Jewswere seeking them all the more
to kill him, because not onlywas he breaking the Sabbath, but
he was even calling God his ownfather, making himself equal
with God.
That's yeah, go ahead.
(05:20):
Could you read verse four forme, because I kind of got lost
right there?
Verse four what?
Ken (05:32):
Oh boom.
Wow, I did not notice that.
Okay, there's no verse fourthere is no, verse four.
It goes from verse three toverse four and I'll bet I would
you like me to read why?
You can read why, but I'm sureI know why it's because the
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newer or more reliable textsthat they found since probably
don't include that verse Somemanuscripts.
Steve (06:02):
Insert holy or in part waiting for the moving of the
water, for an angel of the Lordwent down at certain seasons
into the pool and stirred thewater.
Whoever stepped in first afterthe stirring of the water was
healed of whatever diseases hehad.
Ken (06:19):
Okay, so some manuscripts have this.
Yeah, there's someplace else.
I saw the weird text.
Steve (06:26):
It was because earlier manuscripts did not have that,
only later ones did.
Ken (06:32):
Very interesting.
I did not even notice that,Steve.
I've read this several timesand it never dawned on me that
there was no four.
What's the four not there for?
Steve (06:47):
Whoa.
Ken (06:48):
All right.
So, steve, what do you noticeabout this story?
Steve (06:56):
The Jews are more fixated on literal, strict
interpretation of the law thanthey are the miracle of healing,
and it just makes no sense tome.
Ken (07:13):
Yeah, I wonder, and sometimes I think about myself,
though.
I wonder if I would be so blind.
I would hope not.
I would hope our churches be soblind.
Oh, I think there's definitelysome that would be.
Yeah.
Steve (07:32):
I can't think of an example off the top of my head,
but yeah, I there are some verylegalistic.
Ken (07:39):
Well, there's some cults that are really legalistic, but
there's some churches that aretoo but I think that's something
to make sure we guard ourselvesfrom to to be open to the
miracles of God and the wondersof God.
Steve (07:55):
But so one thing I noticed.
It says basically he'd beenlame for 38 years.
Ken (08:04):
Yeah.
Steve (08:05):
You're like 56.
You've been lame your wholelife.
Ken (08:09):
That's a different kind of lame, steve.
I'm lame in that I'm just.
That means like not aninteresting person or kind of
not cool, not with it.
This kind of lame means hecouldn't walk, so I can
understand the confusion, butI'm a different kind of lame.
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It was a joke.
Oh, ok, I didn't get it Allright.
Another thing I noticed is thatBethesda, before they were
making video games, they werethis gate.
Ok, that's not funny either.
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No, that's.
Steve (08:55):
I didn't even realize there was a video game.
Ken (08:58):
Sure.
Steve (08:59):
What is called Bethesda, Sorry.
Ken (09:01):
Bethesda.
They make lots of like.
You play games on the PS5 or agame and I guess it's not made
by Bethesda, so you wouldn'tknow.
Yeah apparently not All right.
Well, that oh man.
Steve (09:17):
Ok, do you think they had to trade wheat or wood when
they go through the sheep gate?
No, I don't think so.
That's a caton joke for thoseof you that don't All right we
are, we are.
Ken (09:32):
we are really stinking right now, steve.
All right, let's get back onthe Bible and this story for
reals.
Another thing I noticed is thatJesus did not go.
You know, there's a multitude,it says, of invalids.
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And, by the way, the first timeI read that I read invalid.
Steve (09:57):
We don't really say invalid.
Ken (10:01):
And at work we have things that are invalid in our, in our
API.
So so, anyway, there's amultitude of invalids, and how
many are recorded here thatJesus healed?
One one right and he might havehealed others.
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It doesn't say he did not healothers, but the Pharisees don't
come to him in the temple orthey're not upset that he healed
all of these people on theSabbath.
We're really concerned aboutthis one person who, regardless
of his healing, was carrying hismat, and he's not supposed to
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carry his mat on on the Sabbath.
Steve (10:49):
Could be that there was other healings performed, but
John wanted to point out thisone because it explained why the
Jews yeah, we're so upset.
Ken (10:58):
That's true, but he obviously didn't heal everybody,
right?
That would have been a biggerstory right here, I probably.
And so you know, at our, at mylife group this week we were
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talking about I forget how itstarted, but somebody was asking
you know, why wouldn't God healthis person?
And, and it dawned on me then,because we have such a short
life and we're on this earth,you know it's and this is a
Christian person you got to askthe other question why would God
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heal this person?
Why doesn't he just take him?
Why, yeah, why?
What is?
What is the need for thatperson to still be here on earth
?
Does God have a purpose for himhere?
Steve (11:53):
And they're still suffering.
Yeah.
Ken (11:56):
So I think, I think God, god's purpose for healing this
person was to trigger this, thishate for Jesus, because it had
to happen for him to suffer anddie.
Yep, I agree, all right, solet's see.
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What else did you notice?
What does Jesus say to him whenhe sees him in the temple?
Steve (12:30):
He sounds like excited to see him.
See, you are well and oh, bythe way, sin no more.
The nothing worse may happen toyou.
Ken (12:39):
And what does that mean?
Send no more, that nothingworse may happen to you.
Steve (12:43):
See, I struggle with that because a lot of times we have
this concept of oh, I'm beingpunished for something I did,
but there's other places in theBible that said say that they
didn't do anything and that'shas nothing to do with what they
did, that they're beingpunished.
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It's all for the glory of God.
This one makes it seem likemaybe he did something.
Ken (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe maybe he had beenpunished for his sin, which made
him lame.
Don't know, I don't know, allright.
And this very last sentence isa little confusing to me.
Not the last, next, I don'tknow.
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One of the last sentences.
It says my father is working.
Until now, and I am working.
Steve (13:44):
So I think someone smarter than me would probably
say something along the lines ofhe's talking about how God has
worked through the past and nowhe is working, which is the
present, but he's basicallyequating himself with God.
Ken (14:11):
So he's definitely equating himself to God, which is why
the Jews are so mad.
Steve (14:19):
Why are you looking at your phone so much?
Ken (14:21):
Because I'm looking at another translation here.
So let's see, jesus says myfather is always working, and so
am I.
That's another, not word forword translation, and that was
the NLT.
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The NIV says my father isalways at his work, to this very
day, and I too am working.
Steve (14:54):
So my study Bible says he implies that like the father is
Lord over the Sabbath, he istoo.
Ken (15:03):
Okay, yeah, that's what those non-literal translations
kind of implied as well, that,first of all, he is God, is his
father and they are both workingtogether.
That's the way I read that.
(15:24):
Alright, so are you ready tomove on to Jesus' big speech?
Steve (15:37):
Yeah, are you going to read all this from 19?
How about?
Ken (15:41):
we do a tag team right in the middle.
You know, it really bothers me.
Actually in ESV they have asubtitle, like a little bold
subtitle that splits his speech.
Yeah.
And there's no reason to stopthat there's no reason to stop
that, and to me it's a littlebit like it's adding to Jesus'
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words, and I just don't likethat, because Jesus said this in
one thing.
It's not like he said this andthen he said this other thing.
This is all his speech.
Steve (16:15):
You sure we should tag team at that.
Ken (16:19):
That's a lot to read.
Yeah, we'll see.
I think you can do it, I know Ican do it.
I can do it, you can, I can.
Alright, here we go.
John 5, starting in verse 19.
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So Jesus said to them truly,truly, I say to you, the son can
do nothing on his own accord,but only what he sees the father
doing.
For whatever the father does,that the son does likewise, for
the father loves the son andshows him all that he himself is
doing, and greater works thanthese will he show him, so that
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you may marvel.
For as the father raises thedead and gives them life, so
also the son gives life to whomhe will.
For the father judges no one,but he has given all judgment to
the son.
That all may honor the son,just as they honor the father.
Whoever does not honor the sondoes not honor the father who
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sent him.
Truly, truly, I say to youwhoever hears my word and
believes him, who sent me, haseternal life.
He who does not come intojudgment but has passed from
death, no, he does not come intojudgment, but has passed from
death to life.
Truly, truly, I say to you anhour is coming and is now here,
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when the dead will hear thevoice of the son of God and
those who hear will live.
For as the father has life inhimself, so he has granted the
son also to have life in himselfand he has given him authority
to execute judgment because heis the son of man.
Do not marvel at this, for anhour is coming when all who are
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in the tombs will hear his voiceand come out those who have
done good to the resurrection oflife and those who have done
evil to the resurrection ofjudgment.
I can do nothing on my own.
As I hear, I judge, and myjudgment is just because I seek
not my own will but the will ofhim who sent me.
If I alone bear witness aboutmyself, my testimony is not true
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.
There is another who bearswitness about me and I know that
the testimony that he bearsabout me is true.
You sent to John, and he isborn witness to the truth, not
that the testimony that Ireceive is from man, but I say
these things so that you may besaved.
He was a burning and shininglamp and you were willing to
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rejoice for a while in his light, but the testimony that I gave
is greater than that of John,for the works that the Father
has given me to accomplish, thevery works that I am doing.
Bear witness about me that theFather has sent me, and the
Father who sent me has himselfborn witness about me.
His voice you have never heard,his form you have never seen,
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and you do not have his wordabiding in you, for you do not
believe the one whom he has sent.
You search the scripturesbecause you think that in them
you have eternal life, and it isthey that bear witness about me
.
Yet you refuse to come to methat you may have life.
I do not receive glory frompeople, but I know that you do
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not have the love of God withinyou.
I have come in my Father's nameand you do not receive me.
If another comes in his ownname, you will receive him.
How can you believe when youreceive glory from another and
do not seek the glory that comesfrom the only God?
Do not think that I will accuseyou.
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To the Father.
There is one who accuses you,moses, on whom you have sent
your hope, for if you believed,moses, you would believe me, for
he wrote of me, but if you donot believe his writings, how
will you believe my words?
Steve (20:26):
You did it All.
Right, I'm done.
I didn't think you were goingto make it.
Ken (20:33):
I started to struggle near the end.
All right, but so those were alot of words.
Man, actually I wish I hadlooked at this.
That might be the longestspeech it could be, unless,
maybe, the Sermon on the Mount.
The Sermon on the Mount ispretty long, but I mean, he
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really talks quite a bit there.
And what do you think thePharisees thought of Jesus after
this?
Steve (21:10):
I imagine they weren't very happy.
I mean, he'd pretty much torehim a new one for lack of a
better term.
Ken (21:19):
Am I going to have to click the explicit contains explicit
content.
Now, I'm not sure that countsas explicit does it?
I hope not.
Steve (21:28):
I don't think so I don't really know where you draw the
line on explicit.
Ken (21:31):
Yeah, OK, but yeah he was.
He did not pull any punches,did he?
Do you think any of thePharisees that heard him were
convicted by these words?
Steve (21:47):
Yes.
Ken (21:49):
I mean.
I mean, when I say convicted, Imean convicted in their heart
and repented.
Steve (21:55):
Well, there's no way to know the answer to that question
.
I mean, is he talking to two ofthem?
Ken (22:03):
or 20 of them.
It's a good question.
I don't know the answer.
Steve (22:07):
Because if it was just two, then I would be tempted to
say no, but if it were 20, I'dbe more tempted to say oh, there
might be one guy in there thatthis actually hit home and he
agrees that, wow, we've beenmissing the mark this whole time
.
Ken (22:24):
Yeah, there were Pharisees and other stories that did
believe, but obviously not themajority.
I think the majority werereally concerned about the rules
in there.
Steve (22:42):
Well, they were also concerned about their current
standing and way of life.
Ken (22:48):
Their power.
Steve (22:50):
Everybody hates change, and this is a pretty big change.
Ken (22:58):
Yeah, that's a pretty big change.
All right, so can you summarizewhat Jesus said to the
Pharisees?
Steve (23:11):
No.
Ken (23:12):
Come on, you can't even try , will you Just give me a best
effort?
I know you didn't writeanything down, so, and the truth
is, I've read this probablyfive times this week or more.
Steve (23:30):
Oh, so you're ready to give a summary.
Ken (23:32):
And no, I'm saying it's still hard to summarize this,
but I think I can.
Steve (23:37):
So off the cuff, I would say he's laying the groundwork
of hey, I really am the Son ofGod, and here are my witnesses,
by the way, God sent me and Ihave life in myself, not just
because of my mother.
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And then he goes on to talkabout raising the dead.
So no, I can't summarize itvery well.
Let's see what else.
Ken (24:16):
So he says he talks about judgment he does talk about
judgment.
He says who is going to judgepeople?
That's a question, steve.
Who is going to judge people?
According to Jesus, jesus,jesus.
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He says the Father has givenall judgment to the Son.
Ok, so he's looking to thesePharisees in the eye saying you
need to be looking here.
I'm the person that's going tojudge you, not the Father.
Steve (25:12):
I wonder how many of them remembered that when they were
nailing him to the cross.
And then the veil tour.
Ken (25:21):
I did judge.
Well, they weren't nailing him,but yeah, I don't even.
Do you think they watched?
Steve (25:32):
Maybe, maybe not.
Ken (25:36):
Yeah, I just wonder if they .
Steve (25:38):
There was probably some rule that they weren't allowed
to.
Ken (25:41):
Maybe so, and they might not have wanted to.
You know, it's one thing tosend somebody to their death,
it's another thing to actuallywatch it happen.
Yeah, and maybe that's just asoft 21st century kind of kind
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of thing.
I guess we're in the 22ndcentury, aren't we?
Yeah, yep, man, that's weird,all right.
24th century Fox is old.
It's old.
We're in the.
Is there a 22nd century Fox?
What did the Fox say?
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At least one of the Foxes saidI'm a Fox, and the other and the
dog said I'm a hound dog.
You don't even know this, thismovie, do you the Fox and the
Hound?
Steve (26:37):
It's been a long time since I've watched the Fox and
the Hound Gosh.
I don't have kids.
Ken (26:44):
My Older, my kids?
I haven't.
I think I watched the Fox andthe Hound before I had kids.
Steve (26:52):
Honestly, and you remember it.
Ken (26:54):
Yeah, I'm a Fox and I'm a hound dog, something like that.
Okay, anyway, what does thathave to do with anything?
I don't know.
Steve (27:10):
You said something about a Fox, we started talking about
21st century.
Sorry, now the Fox is chasingsome rabbit trail.
Ken (27:22):
Okay, another thing Jesus says, and this is, you know,
this is where some controversycomes in, I think, because who
does Jesus say will beresurrected will receive the
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resurrection of life.
Steve (27:47):
Whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me, has
eternal life.
Ken (27:53):
Yes, okay, so that's one thing he says.
That's not the controversialpart for me.
The controversial part for meis in verse 29.
Those who have done good so hetalks about those, do not marvel
at this, for an hour is comingwhen all who are in the tombs
will hear his voice and come outthose who have done good to the
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resurrection of life and thosewho have done evil to the
resurrection of judgment Makesit sound like works are
important.
Well, these are people who arealready dead.
Okay, so I don't, really Idon't understand it.
Steve (28:43):
Well, there are people in the Old Testament we know went
to heaven.
They didn't have to believe inJesus Christ, the Son of God,
because they hadn't known of himexcept for what the prophecies
were.
So I think there's a good caseto be made that there's plenty
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of people from before Christ'stime that have made it into
heaven.
Ken (29:09):
Okay, I think you're right.
I don't.
And according to this, it'sbased on works.
Steve (29:22):
Now, but there's only one that can judge what is good and
what is bad, and that is Jesus.
Ken (29:30):
And for others he says what you just said a second ago Blah
, blah, blah, blah, blah.
What it?
Where is it?
Steve (29:39):
I don't remember saying blah blah, blah blah.
Ken (29:42):
No, that's not what you said, for as the father has life
in himself.
So, no, no, no where was it?
Steve (29:49):
it's 24.
Whoever hears my word andbelieves him, who sent me, has
eternal life.
Ken (29:55):
There we go.
So.
So now, at this point, thesepeople who have not died yet,
this is believes him, who sentme?
In other words, if you believehim, who sent him?
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If you believe the father, thenyou believe who the son is.
Steve (30:21):
You're leaving out a part what would I believe out
whoever hears my word, and Ithink that can tie directly to
go to all nations and spread thegood news, so that everyone
hears the good news of Jesus, sothat they can hear and believe.
Ken (30:43):
Yes, I didn't intentionally leave that out, I just missed
it.
Oh okay, I'm not.
I'm not intentionally leavingstuff out, I'm just stupid,
steve.
Steve (30:52):
No, no, it's just, you can't Stupid kid, stupid Steve.
Ken (30:57):
All right, okay.
So what else does he say here?
Steve (31:05):
Lots of stuff.
Ken (31:06):
Okay, you mentioned in your summary that you know he
doesn't need to be validated byman, because he's been validated
by God and by the word.
But he was validated by a man,but he was validated by a man.
Steve (31:30):
He actually went and they saw.
Ken (31:34):
That they um bashed in his light.
Basically they, they saw him asa great prophet, yeah right.
And then they talked to him andsaid are you the Christ?
We saw this, I think, in Johnone.
And he goes no, it's not me,this other guy, my cousin, his
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name is Jesus, he's coming, he'sright there, you see him, and
it's, it's funny, it's like then, it's like oh no, we don't like
that answer.
Steve (32:07):
We already have trouble with this guy.
Ken (32:13):
So let's see.
So anyway, he says that youknow, if if somebody comes in
their own name, then that'sgreat, you'll, you'll welcome
them, but if somebody comes inthe name of God, then you'll
shun him.
And he's coming in the name ofGod and and he says I don't even
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have to.
He basically says I don't evenhave to accuse you because
you've accused yourself bysaying that you, that you Follow
Moses, but Moses talks about me, and you refused to listen to
even Moses, who you claim youfollow.
Steve (33:02):
So but Jesus says but I know that you do not have the
love of God within you.
That's a pretty big slap in theface to a Levite or Pharisee,
whatever you want to call thesepeople.
Ken (33:23):
Are the Pharisees all Levites?
Steve (33:25):
I don't think so.
Maybe not they're just thepriests.
Ken (33:28):
but originally now, the Pharisees are Not just the
priests right there, religious,religious leaders.
I think the priests do have tobe Levites.
Oh, you might be right on that.
I think I.
I'm just a regular guy.
I'm a theologian.
Oh, hold on.
No, I'm not.
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Maybe I don't know what I'mtalking about, so let's see.
Do I have anything else?
But if you do not believe hiswritings, how will you believe
my words?
Yeah, I'm thinking that thePharisees that were listening to
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him right now probably, I Don'tknow.
You're right, we have no idea.
If there was one that repentedfrom in heart.
I don't think they did out loud.
I.
Steve (34:24):
Imagine they were.
They stopped listening part waythrough because they got all
upset and you know, huh, whenyou get Emotional and somebody's
talking to you, don't hear.
Wait.
Ken (34:33):
Oh man, when you get defensive about something.
Steve (34:36):
Yeah, you're not listening to what they're saying
.
You're thinking about howyou're gonna respond, right?
Ken (34:42):
especially if you're yeah and they're already caught up in
legalism and not really Worriedabout the Intent of the law, of
the law.
They're worried about the lawitself.
The rule, the rules.
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All right, well, that'severything.
Yeah, do you have anything moreyou'd like to say about that,
steve?
Steve (35:12):
No, I'm pretty hungry.
I'd like to get to dinner.
Ken (35:14):
Okay, you know what we finished in 35 minutes?
That's perfect.
That's perfect.
It's exactly what I wanted todo, oh now you're running over.
Yeah, it's not.
It's not beyond 35.
It's not the 36 yet, so allright.
Well, that's everything, guys.
We finished all of John five ina single session, and Jesus got
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on his soapbox and gave a bigspeech.
Steve (35:43):
Pharisees are now dirt up the ferris wheel.
Ken (35:46):
He hated him.
It's like hitting a beehive.
Yeah, all right.
Well, I I hope you stick aroundand wait and listen to the next
one.
Hi, you are listening to the Regular Guys Bible Study
Podcast.
We are your host, Ken and.
Steve, and we are just RegularGuys studying the Bible, not
theologians, that's right.
Not theologians.
Steve (00:28):
Oh man, steve, Happy Thursday Ken.
Ken (00:33):
Happy.
Well, they don't know.
It's Thursday.
Why do you say happy Thursday?
They could be listening to iton a Tuesday or Monday.
Steve (00:39):
Now they have to re-listen to it on a Thursday.
Ken (00:43):
Okay, okay, make that commitment.
If you're listening to it nowand it's not Thursday, you have
to re-listen on Thursday.
So it makes sense.
Anyway, before Steve said thatstupid thing, I've been having a
great week.
How about you, steve?
Steve (01:00):
You've been all right.
I can't complain, I will butyou shouldn't.
Ken (01:05):
You can complain and you probably will I probably have.
Yeah, I don't think I'vecomplained this week, because
everything has been great.
I've had so many answers toprayer this week and I really
needed it because I really feltdown.
Steve (01:26):
Is that why you didn't show up to accountability group
on Wednesday?
Ken (01:31):
No, you know what?
I really thought that, sincepeople were missing, that we
weren't having it.
But when you reminded me in thetext, while you were there by
yourself, I do remember now thatChris had said, you said well,
I think y'all should meet anyway.
Steve (01:49):
Even if it's just two.
Ken (01:51):
Yeah, so it really had to do with the length of drive and
the early morning hour.
But you know what I think?
Actually, god really blessed mytime that morning and I had a
really good quiet time.
So we're good for you.
Steve (02:11):
I was on the road for 40 minutes.
Ken (02:14):
Sorry.
I am so sorry.
All right, guys, we are goingto study John, chapter five
today, and it is a pretty longchapter where Jesus really goes
on.
Quite.
He gets on a soapbox, and notliterally.
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No, they didn't have soap.
I don't know what kind of boxhe was on, but it might not have
been a soapbox, might have beena milk carton or something All
right.
So why don't we read verse onethrough verse 18, right before
(02:59):
Jesus goes on his speech?
Steve (03:03):
All right.
After this, there was a feastof the Jews, and Jesus went up
to Jerusalem after this?
Ken (03:10):
What did we just talk about ?
Jesus said just healed theofficial son, so and so it's
after that.
Sorry about that.
Steve (03:19):
Go ahead, but it's not a very specific time.
This could have been months.
Ken (03:23):
Yeah, this is not a lot of.
The times has been the next day.
This is just some time after.
Steve (03:31):
Now there is in Jerusalem , by the sheep gate up, who in
Aramaic called Bethesda, whichhas five roofed colonnades.
In these lay a multitude ofinvalids, blind, lame and
paralyzed.
One man was there who had beenin invalid for 38 years.
When Jesus saw him lying thereand knew that he had already
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been there a long time, he saidto him Do you want to be healed?
The sick man answered him Sir,I have no one to put me into the
pool when the water is stirredup.
And while I am going anothersteps down before me, jesus said
to him Get up, take your bedand walk.
And at once the man was healedand he took his bed and walked.
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Now that day was the Sabbath.
So the Jews said to the man whohad been healed it is the
Sabbath and it is unlawful foryou to take up your bed.
But, he answered them, the manwho healed me.
That man said to me Take upyour bed and walk.
They asked him who is the manwho said to you Take up your bed
and walk.
Now the man who had been healeddid not know who it was, for
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Jesus had withdrawn and therewas a crowd in that place.
After Jesus found him in thetemple and said to him See, you
are well.
Send no more that nothing worsemay happen to you.
The man went away and told theJews that it was Jesus who had
healed him.
And this is why the Jews werepersecuting Jesus, because he
was doing these things on theSabbath.
(04:58):
But Jesus answered them myFather is working until now and
I am working.
This is this was why the Jewswere seeking them all the more
to kill him, because not onlywas he breaking the Sabbath, but
he was even calling God his ownfather, making himself equal
with God.
That's yeah, go ahead.
(05:20):
Could you read verse four forme, because I kind of got lost
right there?
Verse four what?
Ken (05:32):
Oh boom.
Wow, I did not notice that.
Okay, there's no verse fourthere is no, verse four.
It goes from verse three toverse four and I'll bet I would
you like me to read why?
You can read why, but I'm sureI know why it's because the
(05:52):
newer or more reliable textsthat they found since probably
don't include that verse Somemanuscripts.
Steve (06:02):
Insert holy or in part waiting for the moving of the
water, for an angel of the Lordwent down at certain seasons
into the pool and stirred thewater.
Whoever stepped in first afterthe stirring of the water was
healed of whatever diseases hehad.
Ken (06:19):
Okay, so some manuscripts have this.
Yeah, there's someplace else.
I saw the weird text.
Steve (06:26):
It was because earlier manuscripts did not have that,
only later ones did.
Ken (06:32):
Very interesting.
I did not even notice that,Steve.
I've read this several timesand it never dawned on me that
there was no four.
What's the four not there for?
Steve (06:47):
Whoa.
Ken (06:48):
All right.
So, steve, what do you noticeabout this story?
Steve (06:56):
The Jews are more fixated on literal, strict
interpretation of the law thanthey are the miracle of healing,
and it just makes no sense tome.
Ken (07:13):
Yeah, I wonder, and sometimes I think about myself,
though.
I wonder if I would be so blind.
I would hope not.
I would hope our churches be soblind.
Oh, I think there's definitelysome that would be.
Yeah.
Steve (07:32):
I can't think of an example off the top of my head,
but yeah, I there are some verylegalistic.
Ken (07:39):
Well, there's some cults that are really legalistic, but
there's some churches that aretoo but I think that's something
to make sure we guard ourselvesfrom to to be open to the
miracles of God and the wondersof God.
Steve (07:55):
But so one thing I noticed.
It says basically he'd beenlame for 38 years.
Ken (08:04):
Yeah.
Steve (08:05):
You're like 56.
You've been lame your wholelife.
Ken (08:09):
That's a different kind of lame, steve.
I'm lame in that I'm just.
That means like not aninteresting person or kind of
not cool, not with it.
This kind of lame means hecouldn't walk, so I can
understand the confusion, butI'm a different kind of lame.
(08:30):
It was a joke.
Oh, ok, I didn't get it Allright.
Another thing I noticed is thatBethesda, before they were
making video games, they werethis gate.
Ok, that's not funny either.
(08:53):
No, that's.
Steve (08:55):
I didn't even realize there was a video game.
Ken (08:58):
Sure.
Steve (08:59):
What is called Bethesda, Sorry.
Ken (09:01):
Bethesda.
They make lots of like.
You play games on the PS5 or agame and I guess it's not made
by Bethesda, so you wouldn'tknow.
Yeah apparently not All right.
Well, that oh man.
Steve (09:17):
Ok, do you think they had to trade wheat or wood when
they go through the sheep gate?
No, I don't think so.
That's a caton joke for thoseof you that don't All right we
are, we are.
Ken (09:32):
we are really stinking right now, steve.
All right, let's get back onthe Bible and this story for
reals.
Another thing I noticed is thatJesus did not go.
You know, there's a multitude,it says, of invalids.
(09:52):
And, by the way, the first timeI read that I read invalid.
Steve (09:57):
We don't really say invalid.
Ken (10:01):
And at work we have things that are invalid in our, in our
API.
So so, anyway, there's amultitude of invalids, and how
many are recorded here thatJesus healed?
One one right and he might havehealed others.
(10:23):
It doesn't say he did not healothers, but the Pharisees don't
come to him in the temple orthey're not upset that he healed
all of these people on theSabbath.
We're really concerned aboutthis one person who, regardless
of his healing, was carrying hismat, and he's not supposed to
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carry his mat on on the Sabbath.
Steve (10:49):
Could be that there was other healings performed, but
John wanted to point out thisone because it explained why the
Jews yeah, we're so upset.
Ken (10:58):
That's true, but he obviously didn't heal everybody,
right?
That would have been a biggerstory right here, I probably.
And so you know, at our, at mylife group this week we were
(11:18):
talking about I forget how itstarted, but somebody was asking
you know, why wouldn't God healthis person?
And, and it dawned on me then,because we have such a short
life and we're on this earth,you know it's and this is a
Christian person you got to askthe other question why would God
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heal this person?
Why doesn't he just take him?
Why, yeah, why?
What is?
What is the need for thatperson to still be here on earth
?
Does God have a purpose for himhere?
Steve (11:53):
And they're still suffering.
Yeah.
Ken (11:56):
So I think, I think God, god's purpose for healing this
person was to trigger this, thishate for Jesus, because it had
to happen for him to suffer anddie.
Yep, I agree, all right, solet's see.
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What else did you notice?
What does Jesus say to him whenhe sees him in the temple?
Steve (12:30):
He sounds like excited to see him.
See, you are well and oh, bythe way, sin no more.
The nothing worse may happen toyou.
Ken (12:39):
And what does that mean?
Send no more, that nothingworse may happen to you.
Steve (12:43):
See, I struggle with that because a lot of times we have
this concept of oh, I'm beingpunished for something I did,
but there's other places in theBible that said say that they
didn't do anything and that'shas nothing to do with what they
did, that they're beingpunished.
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It's all for the glory of God.
This one makes it seem likemaybe he did something.
Ken (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe maybe he had beenpunished for his sin, which made
him lame.
Don't know, I don't know, allright.
And this very last sentence isa little confusing to me.
Not the last, next, I don'tknow.
(13:32):
One of the last sentences.
It says my father is working.
Until now, and I am working.
Steve (13:44):
So I think someone smarter than me would probably
say something along the lines ofhe's talking about how God has
worked through the past and nowhe is working, which is the
present, but he's basicallyequating himself with God.
Ken (14:11):
So he's definitely equating himself to God, which is why
the Jews are so mad.
Steve (14:19):
Why are you looking at your phone so much?
Ken (14:21):
Because I'm looking at another translation here.
So let's see, jesus says myfather is always working, and so
am I.
That's another, not word forword translation, and that was
the NLT.
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The NIV says my father isalways at his work, to this very
day, and I too am working.
Steve (14:54):
So my study Bible says he implies that like the father is
Lord over the Sabbath, he istoo.
Ken (15:03):
Okay, yeah, that's what those non-literal translations
kind of implied as well, that,first of all, he is God, is his
father and they are both workingtogether.
That's the way I read that.
(15:24):
Alright, so are you ready tomove on to Jesus' big speech?
Steve (15:37):
Yeah, are you going to read all this from 19?
How about?
Ken (15:41):
we do a tag team right in the middle.
You know, it really bothers me.
Actually in ESV they have asubtitle, like a little bold
subtitle that splits his speech.
Yeah.
And there's no reason to stopthat there's no reason to stop
that, and to me it's a littlebit like it's adding to Jesus'
(16:03):
words, and I just don't likethat, because Jesus said this in
one thing.
It's not like he said this andthen he said this other thing.
This is all his speech.
Steve (16:15):
You sure we should tag team at that.
Ken (16:19):
That's a lot to read.
Yeah, we'll see.
I think you can do it, I know Ican do it.
I can do it, you can, I can.
Alright, here we go.
John 5, starting in verse 19.
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So Jesus said to them truly,truly, I say to you, the son can
do nothing on his own accord,but only what he sees the father
doing.
For whatever the father does,that the son does likewise, for
the father loves the son andshows him all that he himself is
doing, and greater works thanthese will he show him, so that
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you may marvel.
For as the father raises thedead and gives them life, so
also the son gives life to whomhe will.
For the father judges no one,but he has given all judgment to
the son.
That all may honor the son,just as they honor the father.
Whoever does not honor the sondoes not honor the father who
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sent him.
Truly, truly, I say to youwhoever hears my word and
believes him, who sent me, haseternal life.
He who does not come intojudgment but has passed from
death, no, he does not come intojudgment, but has passed from
death to life.
Truly, truly, I say to you anhour is coming and is now here,
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when the dead will hear thevoice of the son of God and
those who hear will live.
For as the father has life inhimself, so he has granted the
son also to have life in himselfand he has given him authority
to execute judgment because heis the son of man.
Do not marvel at this, for anhour is coming when all who are
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in the tombs will hear his voiceand come out those who have
done good to the resurrection oflife and those who have done
evil to the resurrection ofjudgment.
I can do nothing on my own.
As I hear, I judge, and myjudgment is just because I seek
not my own will but the will ofhim who sent me.
If I alone bear witness aboutmyself, my testimony is not true
(18:33):
.
There is another who bearswitness about me and I know that
the testimony that he bearsabout me is true.
You sent to John, and he isborn witness to the truth, not
that the testimony that Ireceive is from man, but I say
these things so that you may besaved.
He was a burning and shininglamp and you were willing to
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rejoice for a while in his light, but the testimony that I gave
is greater than that of John,for the works that the Father
has given me to accomplish, thevery works that I am doing.
Bear witness about me that theFather has sent me, and the
Father who sent me has himselfborn witness about me.
His voice you have never heard,his form you have never seen,
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and you do not have his wordabiding in you, for you do not
believe the one whom he has sent.
You search the scripturesbecause you think that in them
you have eternal life, and it isthey that bear witness about me
.
Yet you refuse to come to methat you may have life.
I do not receive glory frompeople, but I know that you do
(19:46):
not have the love of God withinyou.
I have come in my Father's nameand you do not receive me.
If another comes in his ownname, you will receive him.
How can you believe when youreceive glory from another and
do not seek the glory that comesfrom the only God?
Do not think that I will accuseyou.
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To the Father.
There is one who accuses you,moses, on whom you have sent
your hope, for if you believed,moses, you would believe me, for
he wrote of me, but if you donot believe his writings, how
will you believe my words?
Steve (20:26):
You did it All.
Right, I'm done.
I didn't think you were goingto make it.
Ken (20:33):
I started to struggle near the end.
All right, but so those were alot of words.
Man, actually I wish I hadlooked at this.
That might be the longestspeech it could be, unless,
maybe, the Sermon on the Mount.
The Sermon on the Mount ispretty long, but I mean, he
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really talks quite a bit there.
And what do you think thePharisees thought of Jesus after
this?
Steve (21:10):
I imagine they weren't very happy.
I mean, he'd pretty much torehim a new one for lack of a
better term.
Ken (21:19):
Am I going to have to click the explicit contains explicit
content.
Now, I'm not sure that countsas explicit does it?
I hope not.
Steve (21:28):
I don't think so I don't really know where you draw the
line on explicit.
Ken (21:31):
Yeah, OK, but yeah he was.
He did not pull any punches,did he?
Do you think any of thePharisees that heard him were
convicted by these words?
Steve (21:47):
Yes.
Ken (21:49):
I mean.
I mean, when I say convicted, Imean convicted in their heart
and repented.
Steve (21:55):
Well, there's no way to know the answer to that question
.
I mean, is he talking to two ofthem?
Ken (22:03):
or 20 of them.
It's a good question.
I don't know the answer.
Steve (22:07):
Because if it was just two, then I would be tempted to
say no, but if it were 20, I'dbe more tempted to say oh, there
might be one guy in there thatthis actually hit home and he
agrees that, wow, we've beenmissing the mark this whole time
.
Ken (22:24):
Yeah, there were Pharisees and other stories that did
believe, but obviously not themajority.
I think the majority werereally concerned about the rules
in there.
Steve (22:42):
Well, they were also concerned about their current
standing and way of life.
Ken (22:48):
Their power.
Steve (22:50):
Everybody hates change, and this is a pretty big change.
Ken (22:58):
Yeah, that's a pretty big change.
All right, so can you summarizewhat Jesus said to the
Pharisees?
Steve (23:11):
No.
Ken (23:12):
Come on, you can't even try , will you Just give me a best
effort?
I know you didn't writeanything down, so, and the truth
is, I've read this probablyfive times this week or more.
Steve (23:30):
Oh, so you're ready to give a summary.
Ken (23:32):
And no, I'm saying it's still hard to summarize this,
but I think I can.
Steve (23:37):
So off the cuff, I would say he's laying the groundwork
of hey, I really am the Son ofGod, and here are my witnesses,
by the way, God sent me and Ihave life in myself, not just
because of my mother.
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And then he goes on to talkabout raising the dead.
So no, I can't summarize itvery well.
Let's see what else.
Ken (24:16):
So he says he talks about judgment he does talk about
judgment.
He says who is going to judgepeople?
That's a question, steve.
Who is going to judge people?
According to Jesus, jesus,jesus.
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He says the Father has givenall judgment to the Son.
Ok, so he's looking to thesePharisees in the eye saying you
need to be looking here.
I'm the person that's going tojudge you, not the Father.
Steve (25:12):
I wonder how many of them remembered that when they were
nailing him to the cross.
And then the veil tour.
Ken (25:21):
I did judge.
Well, they weren't nailing him,but yeah, I don't even.
Do you think they watched?
Steve (25:32):
Maybe, maybe not.
Ken (25:36):
Yeah, I just wonder if they .
Steve (25:38):
There was probably some rule that they weren't allowed
to.
Ken (25:41):
Maybe so, and they might not have wanted to.
You know, it's one thing tosend somebody to their death,
it's another thing to actuallywatch it happen.
Yeah, and maybe that's just asoft 21st century kind of kind
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of thing.
I guess we're in the 22ndcentury, aren't we?
Yeah, yep, man, that's weird,all right.
24th century Fox is old.
It's old.
We're in the.
Is there a 22nd century Fox?
What did the Fox say?
(26:22):
At least one of the Foxes saidI'm a Fox, and the other and the
dog said I'm a hound dog.
You don't even know this, thismovie, do you the Fox and the
Hound?
Steve (26:37):
It's been a long time since I've watched the Fox and
the Hound Gosh.
I don't have kids.
Ken (26:44):
My Older, my kids?
I haven't.
I think I watched the Fox andthe Hound before I had kids.
Steve (26:52):
Honestly, and you remember it.
Ken (26:54):
Yeah, I'm a Fox and I'm a hound dog, something like that.
Okay, anyway, what does thathave to do with anything?
I don't know.
Steve (27:10):
You said something about a Fox, we started talking about
21st century.
Sorry, now the Fox is chasingsome rabbit trail.
Ken (27:22):
Okay, another thing Jesus says, and this is, you know,
this is where some controversycomes in, I think, because who
does Jesus say will beresurrected will receive the
(27:43):
resurrection of life.
Steve (27:47):
Whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me, has
eternal life.
Ken (27:53):
Yes, okay, so that's one thing he says.
That's not the controversialpart for me.
The controversial part for meis in verse 29.
Those who have done good so hetalks about those, do not marvel
at this, for an hour is comingwhen all who are in the tombs
will hear his voice and come outthose who have done good to the
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resurrection of life and thosewho have done evil to the
resurrection of judgment Makesit sound like works are
important.
Well, these are people who arealready dead.
Okay, so I don't, really Idon't understand it.
Steve (28:43):
Well, there are people in the Old Testament we know went
to heaven.
They didn't have to believe inJesus Christ, the Son of God,
because they hadn't known of himexcept for what the prophecies
were.
So I think there's a good caseto be made that there's plenty
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of people from before Christ'stime that have made it into
heaven.
Ken (29:09):
Okay, I think you're right.
I don't.
And according to this, it'sbased on works.
Steve (29:22):
Now, but there's only one that can judge what is good and
what is bad, and that is Jesus.
Ken (29:30):
And for others he says what you just said a second ago Blah
, blah, blah, blah, blah.
What it?
Where is it?
Steve (29:39):
I don't remember saying blah blah, blah blah.
Ken (29:42):
No, that's not what you said, for as the father has life
in himself.
So, no, no, no where was it?
Steve (29:49):
it's 24.
Whoever hears my word andbelieves him, who sent me, has
eternal life.
Ken (29:55):
There we go.
So.
So now, at this point, thesepeople who have not died yet,
this is believes him, who sentme?
In other words, if you believehim, who sent him?
(30:15):
If you believe the father, thenyou believe who the son is.
Steve (30:21):
You're leaving out a part what would I believe out
whoever hears my word, and Ithink that can tie directly to
go to all nations and spread thegood news, so that everyone
hears the good news of Jesus, sothat they can hear and believe.
Ken (30:43):
Yes, I didn't intentionally leave that out, I just missed
it.
Oh okay, I'm not.
I'm not intentionally leavingstuff out, I'm just stupid,
steve.
Steve (30:52):
No, no, it's just, you can't Stupid kid, stupid Steve.
Ken (30:57):
All right, okay.
So what else does he say here?
Steve (31:05):
Lots of stuff.
Ken (31:06):
Okay, you mentioned in your summary that you know he
doesn't need to be validated byman, because he's been validated
by God and by the word.
But he was validated by a man,but he was validated by a man.
Steve (31:30):
He actually went and they saw.
Ken (31:34):
That they um bashed in his light.
Basically they, they saw him asa great prophet, yeah right.
And then they talked to him andsaid are you the Christ?
We saw this, I think, in Johnone.
And he goes no, it's not me,this other guy, my cousin, his
(31:54):
name is Jesus, he's coming, he'sright there, you see him, and
it's, it's funny, it's like then, it's like oh no, we don't like
that answer.
Steve (32:07):
We already have trouble with this guy.
Ken (32:13):
So let's see.
So anyway, he says that youknow, if if somebody comes in
their own name, then that'sgreat, you'll, you'll welcome
them, but if somebody comes inthe name of God, then you'll
shun him.
And he's coming in the name ofGod and and he says I don't even
(32:38):
have to.
He basically says I don't evenhave to accuse you because
you've accused yourself bysaying that you, that you Follow
Moses, but Moses talks about me, and you refused to listen to
even Moses, who you claim youfollow.
Steve (33:02):
So but Jesus says but I know that you do not have the
love of God within you.
That's a pretty big slap in theface to a Levite or Pharisee,
whatever you want to call thesepeople.
Ken (33:23):
Are the Pharisees all Levites?
Steve (33:25):
I don't think so.
Maybe not they're just thepriests.
Ken (33:28):
but originally now, the Pharisees are Not just the
priests right there, religious,religious leaders.
I think the priests do have tobe Levites.
Oh, you might be right on that.
I think I.
I'm just a regular guy.
I'm a theologian.
Oh, hold on.
No, I'm not.
(33:49):
Maybe I don't know what I'mtalking about, so let's see.
Do I have anything else?
But if you do not believe hiswritings, how will you believe
my words?
Yeah, I'm thinking that thePharisees that were listening to
(34:11):
him right now probably, I Don'tknow.
You're right, we have no idea.
If there was one that repentedfrom in heart.
I don't think they did out loud.
I.
Steve (34:24):
Imagine they were.
They stopped listening part waythrough because they got all
upset and you know, huh, whenyou get Emotional and somebody's
talking to you, don't hear.
Wait.
Ken (34:33):
Oh man, when you get defensive about something.
Steve (34:36):
Yeah, you're not listening to what they're saying
.
You're thinking about howyou're gonna respond, right?
Ken (34:42):
especially if you're yeah and they're already caught up in
legalism and not really Worriedabout the Intent of the law, of
the law.
They're worried about the lawitself.
The rule, the rules.
(35:03):
All right, well, that'severything.
Yeah, do you have anything moreyou'd like to say about that,
steve?
Steve (35:12):
No, I'm pretty hungry.
I'd like to get to dinner.
Ken (35:14):
Okay, you know what we finished in 35 minutes?
That's perfect.
That's perfect.
It's exactly what I wanted todo, oh now you're running over.
Yeah, it's not.
It's not beyond 35.
It's not the 36 yet, so allright.
Well, that's everything, guys.
We finished all of John five ina single session, and Jesus got
(35:38):
on his soapbox and gave a bigspeech.
Steve (35:43):
Pharisees are now dirt up the ferris wheel.
Ken (35:46):
He hated him.
It's like hitting a beehive.
Yeah, all right.
Well, I I hope you stick aroundand wait and listen to the next
one.
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