January 27, 2025 • 31 mins
Gail Taylor's inspiring journey from financial advisor to musician illustrates the power of personal reinvention. She emphasizes self-acceptance, dealing with nerves, overcoming life challenges, and maintaining a positive mindset to navigate a fulfilling life journey.
• Discusses the significance of pursuing passions regardless of age
• Highlights the joy of learning music and its impact on well-being
• Shares methods to handle life's curveballs and find resilience
• Encourages finding passion and purpose in everyday life
• Reiterates the importance of self-acceptance in one’s journey
You can find Gail's inspiring book on Amazon and other retailers!
Connect with Gail
Instagram: @gailtaylormusic
Facebook: @gailtaylormusic
LinkedIn: @gailtaylor1
Website: www.gailtaylormusic.com
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Aideen Ni Riada (00:02):
Welcome to the Resonate podcast with Aideen.
I'm Aideen Ni Riada and myguest today is author Gail
Taylor.
You're very welcome, Gail,thank you.
Thanks for having me.
It's so wonderful to interviewyou.
I know you've got a lot to talkabout, a lot of encouraging
things to say to our listeners,but let me introduce you and
tell people a little about whoyou are before we get started.
(00:25):
From a successful career as aninvestment advisor at age 65,
Gail Taylor embarked on a secondact, becoming a songwriter,
author, motivational speaker andphilanthropist.
Gail recently released hersecond book, curveballs
Unlocking your Potential ThroughPersonal Growth and
(00:45):
Inspirational Music.
Gail, please tell us a littlebit about how you embarked on
this reinvention, the second act, starting as a musician after
working in finance.
How did this happen?
Gail Taylor (01:00):
Yeah.
So what happened was I was afinancial advisor for 25 years
and I loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
But then, when I was 58 yearsold, I started taking piano
lessons and I had no backgroundin music.
I mean, you know music.
I was doing the scales, I wasstarting from scratch and I just
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loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
And music started flooding backinto my life in the sense of
listening to it, because I hadstopped listening to it without
even realizing it.
I was listening to financebooks on my way to work.
So I decided you know what?
I'm going to retire a littlesooner than planned, sell my
practice and study musicfull-time.
(01:44):
So I did that at age 61, and Ihad private teachers.
I studied through BerkeleyBerkeley School of Music because
it was online, you didn't haveto audition.
Good thing, I was taking piano,keyboard, bass, guitar,
songwriting, ear training andafter a couple of years of that,
I thought, whoa, I'm going toreinvent myself as a musician.
(02:07):
And, Aideen, when I shared thatstory to folks, I kept getting
oh Gail, that's so inspiring,I'm going to go do something.
They put on the back burner andI thought, whoa, never mind
becoming a musician.
Forget that I'm going to become.
I'm going to start a business,Gail Taylor Music.
(02:28):
Become a keynote speaker anduse my music and my stories to
help folks become their bestselves.
So that's how.
Aideen Ni Riada (02:38):
I got here.
That's absolutely amazing andyou did an amazing job of
putting that whole story intoone short little segment, Gail,
I really love it, because I'mnot sure if you know this about
me, but I started my business asteaching singing to adults and
my whole thing was helpingpeople to learn how to sing,
(03:00):
even if they never had beensinging before.
And you know, a lot of peopledo have unfulfilled dreams from
their childhood, from you know,their deepest desire within them
, and creativity is one of thosethings that sometimes gets a
little bit, you know, pushedaside and it's not really that
(03:23):
encouraged.
Not all parents are really thatkeen to encourage their kids to
do anything with creativepursuits, with music or singing,
and we can get discouraged veryquickly.
So tell us a little bit aboutyou know, where did music, where
did you lose that track like?
You must have had some interestin music earlier on did you
(03:44):
only as a fan, right?
Gail Taylor (03:46):
so I grew up in the 70s, 60s and 70s so I loved
rock and roll and I went toevery concert that there was.
I went to see the stones AliceCooper, def Leppard, led
Zeppelin like I was at everyconcert.
So, yes, I did love, love music, but I had no, no training and
(04:08):
no knowledge.
And singing was one of thethings that I took singing
lessons and it's interestingwhat you just shared, because my
singing teacher, same as you,was teaching adults that it was
new to them and then, when itcame recital time, they didn't
want to go on stage.
But what happened was and thisis what I talk about in
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curveballs, you know developingyour self-confidence and being
able to get up on that stage andenjoy yourself at whatever
level you're at.
You don't have to be at thelevel of the top student or at
the level of the teacher, you'reat your level.
And so I'd get up on stage andI'd do songs like Blue Suede
(04:53):
Shoes by Elvis Presley, and thenthe next thing, you know, her
other adult students were sayingokay, I think I could do this.
Gail's up there having fun, Icould do it.
So, really, yeah, the answer toyour question is you know, it's
just self-confidence, trying itout and finding out that it's
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fun.
Aideen Ni Riada (05:15):
I love it.
Yeah, I mean, one of the keythings I used to do with my
students was an eight weekcourse and there was always a
concert at the end and most ofthe students always performed.
Because that was my business,was like I was, you know,
studied psychology and I wasbringing out confidence in
people.
But the the thing that I thinka lot of adults forget is that
(05:36):
you don't have to be you knowgood at something.
Quickly, you know, and aschildren we're, we're willing to
make mistakes.
We're willing to kind of getinto the sandbox and make a
crappy sandcastle and have fundoing it until we make a better
one.
But sometimes we're very overlycritical as adults.
How did you overcome thatyourself?
(05:58):
You know, what was it that madeit easier for you to take steps
into, you know, that scaryplace of wow, I'm trying, but
it's not good yet.
Gail Taylor (06:10):
I'd say it was about accepting where I was at,
not not like.
Sometimes we get in our headsand we think, okay, this is my
goal, I want to be at that level.
Well, you're not at that level.
So enjoy the journey, acceptthe level that you're at right
now and play at that level.
And you know I think that'spart of where the challenge
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comes from is that you're notgoing to get up even for a
recital.
You're not going to get up andplay better than you've ever,
ever played before.
In fact, I had a teacher oncesay to me ever played before.
In fact, I had a teacher oncesay to me you're probably going
to play at about 70%.
So if you think of, you knowyou're playing all alone in your
music studio in my case it's amusic studio.
(06:55):
If you're playing all alone,whatever your 100% is, when you
get up on stage it'll probablybe about 70% of that because of
the nerves and just being awareof that and comfortable with it.
And you know, cut yourself someslack.
Aideen Ni Riada (07:11):
And I think it's really important that
people understand that, evenwhen you become a success at
something, or when you're seenas a success like I mean, I'm a
singer and I perform and I havemy YouTube stuff and you're an
author, for instance, so peoplewill look at either of us and
they'll be like, okay, well,they might not get nerves
anymore, but the truth is, allof us are comparing ourselves to
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a future version of ourselvesthat we aspire to become and,
unfortunately, if we don'taccept where we're currently at,
we won't take the necessarysteps to move into that greater
competency and that greaterability.
Gail Taylor (07:51):
Oh yeah, Nerves are a good thing.
I mean, if you didn't have anynerves, you might get up on
stage, whether you're singing or, in my case, talking or and be
a little bit boring, Right,Because the nerves gives you
adrenaline.
I mean, Jerry Seinfeld wasdoing his career for years and
he said I still get nervousevery time.
(08:11):
He said I get imposter syndromewhen I'm going on stage.
I think, oh my God, I'm notfunny, why am I going out there?
And then he says after I tell ajoke and they laugh I find
myself in the zone it's the samefor all of us, right?
So don't try to not have thebutterflies in your stomach or
the nerves.
Don't try.
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You're not striving to get ridof them.
Aideen Ni Riada (08:35):
You're just going to turn them from that
nervousness into excitement andyou're going to just channel it
in your performance excitementand and you're going to just
channel it in your performance,and it's important, I think, to
recognize that internally in ournervous system feels
nervousness and excitement, verysimilarly like butterflies in
the stomach, sweaty palms, maybeyour breathing changes.
(08:57):
So it's interesting that youcan interpret those feelings as
I'm too nervous to do this orjust I'm really excited to do it
.
Gail Taylor (09:06):
Right, right.
And then that brings us to thepreparation.
Right.
What are the five Ps?
Proper preparation preventspoor performance.
That was Snoop Dogg's five Ps,if you are.
I mean, there's people that areso prepared and then they're
nervous.
They get up on stage, theyalmost have an out-of-body
(09:29):
experience, but they still didtheir piece and they did a great
job because they were soprepared.
It was rote.
Aideen Ni Riada (09:37):
Yes, yeah, it becomes an automatic thing, like
being able to drive the car towork.
You know, your body just knowshow to do it.
Yeah, this is such aninteresting topic.
Able to drive the car to work.
You know you, your body justknows how to do it.
Um, yeah, this is such aninteresting topic, and so you
know, there's always these.
You know there's obstacles onour path to everything that we
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want to do.
It's, you know, especially ifit's if we're leveling up or
we're transforming or changingor stepping into a new version
of ourselves.
And I know that your new book,curveballs, speaks to the idea
that you know things come at us,but you know it's we have to
somehow see them in a way thathelps us move forward.
(10:19):
So what is it you recommendpeople do with the curveballs in
life?
Gail Taylor (10:23):
Yeah, so, whether it's a curveball or challenges
wherever it comes from.
So for me, there's so manydifferent ways you're going to
handle it, depending on what itis.
So the way the book's designedis, I actually tell a personal
story.
It's a curveball that lifethrew at me, and there were a
(10:47):
lot of them from you know thedeath of a parent when I was
young, to addiction, to a childin addiction, like there were.
Life threw me lots ofcurveballs, and so there's a
story about a curveball and thenthe tools that I use to work my
way through it.
I studied personal growth andpeak performance for 40 years,
(11:09):
so there's lots of differenttools to be used, depending on
the curveball.
And then this is cool At theend of every chapter there's a
QR code so you could put yourphone over it and it'll take you
to YouTube to watch a lyricvideo of the song that I wrote
that was inspired by that story.
Wow, so so, yeah, I literallyput a soundtrack in my book.
(11:34):
Right, I put a soundtrack in mybook.
It's awesome.
Aideen Ni Riada (11:38):
And I, I, actually I read your book, I
read most of it.
I read your book, I read mostof it.
I did, I did kind of I jumped alittle bit around, but I, I, I
think it's a very thorough bookin that it kind it's almost like
you could write two or threebooks out of that one book,
cause you covered so much aboutyour life and so many different
strategies, even talk aboutfinancial strategies, which, of
(12:00):
course, your background isfinance.
So I was curious.
Gail Taylor (12:03):
I couldn't leave that out.
Aideen Ni Riada (12:04):
You couldn't leave it out.
And then you know it's so coolbeing able to just use the phone
and check out the YouTubevideos, so it's amazing.
You know, in the end, I believethat each of us connects with
certain people more than otherpeople can Like, as in I could
(12:24):
say some amazing wisdom, right,and then you'll come on and you
might say something very similar, but the person who gets it
from Gail, that needs it fromGail, is going to have it sink
in, and I feel like you'reimportant because you say it in
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your way and each personlistening to the podcast has
other things that they have,that they're wise about, that
they understand, and we need tobe careful that we value the
things we know, we value thejourney we've been on, and what
would you say to people thatfeel like their journey isn't
important?
Gail Taylor (13:06):
oh, there's no such thing.
Everybody's journey is equallyimportant and how you move it in
the direction that you want itto be in, I mean that's the
first step.
Like what do you want it to bein?
I mean that's the first step,like what do you want?
And then use your imagination.
I mean, look at you know we'retalking about me and music and I
have a catalog of 18 songs andthey're on Spotify and Apple and
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YouTube, and I'm not even amusician.
I'm not your traditionalmusician.
What I do is I write the song,I co-write with a friend, we do
a demo, I hire a music studiodown in Nashville and they
record it for me.
I hire a vocalist.
So you know, technology rightnow is so amazing that I don't
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have to send my song to a recordlabel or to an existing artist
and if they don't like it, itsits in a file.
I can bring it to life myselfand that's how I answer your
question is.
You know, think out of the box.
Just wherever you are on yourjourney is where you're supposed
to be.
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Just look at where do you wantto go and start creating it.
Aideen Ni Riada (14:18):
I love this.
Guys, listen to this carefully.
Wherever you are right now,it's where you're supposed to be
.
You're exactly where you'remeant to be right now and that
is just the most important thing.
If we can accept that we'reexactly where we're meant to be,
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we will be practical, pragmatic, we will take it on and we'll
stop having that.
You know, monkey mind, you knowcomplaining about circumstances
, because in the end, I think weare all dealing with
circumstances and theycircumstances of our lives can.
Sometimes, you know, they'relike a roadblock, they're like a
brick wall in front of us.
(15:00):
You mentioned earlier, beforewe started, that it's not so
much the curve ball that comesyour way, it's how you handle
that.
Would you like to speak alittle more to that point for
our listeners sake, in case theyfeel that they are hitting a
brick wall in life?
Gail Taylor (15:19):
yeah, because and I say that you know, I stole this
from someone else on a podcastI come from a place of healed
scars and not open wounds, and Ithink that's what the curveball
is.
The curveball is the open woundand, yes, you can get past it.
(15:41):
Yes, you will get past it ifyou want to and if you choose to
do whatever it is.
You know it's not easy, it'swork.
A big, big piece of this isyour internal dialogue.
What are you telling yourself?
Right, negative thinking is notgoing to work.
And so make sure, like I have alittle trick and I talk about
(16:04):
this in the book if you'retelling yourself, oh yeah, but
I'm traumatized because of this,that and the other thing, and
so I'll never be able to garbagein garbage.
That's what I use as my mantragarbage in, garbage out.
And then I reframe it and say,wow, I just experienced the real
curveball.
(16:25):
I wonder what I could do withit to create the journey I want
to create, reframe it.
However, you want Now reframingyourself.
Like Tony Robbins said ifyou're in your head, you're dead
.
Now reframing yourself, likeTony Robbins said if you're in
your head, you're dead.
Reframing yourself isn'tsomething you're going to do
overnight.
This isn't a New Year'sresolution, it might.
(16:46):
You know.
If you're very commonlyself-sabotaging, then it might
take you 18 months to retrainyour brain.
Maybe it'll take you threemonths.
It's going to take everybody adifferent amount of time, but
look at it as that.
Catch yourself.
Every time you find yourselfsaying a negative thought, catch
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it.
Find your own mantra Garbage in, garbage out.
Sometimes I yell it garbage in,garbage out.
And I still do it to this dayday.
I've been doing this for like40 years and I still do it.
I still catch myself.
Wait a minute, and so that'swhat I do.
I learn about your internaldialogue, the power of positive
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thinking.
There's so many resources.
There's so many books.
There's so many.
Go to youtube university.
Oh yeah.
All you have to do is googlepositive thinking and you'll
find something will come up forno cost absolutely, and it's so
readily available.
Aideen Ni Riada (17:47):
But a lot of people think that if they've
been working on themselves for awhile, that those negative
thoughts should disappear yeah,you have to train your brain to
stop doing it.
Gail Taylor (17:59):
They don't, you can't, will them away.
It's I almost call it, uh,self-hypnosis right, you're
training your brain, and thenyour subconscious mind, to
create the life you want tocreate and not the one that was
thrown at you through externalforces and that you know.
(18:20):
Think about it.
If you're learning how to playa new instrument, if you're
learning how to sing, if you'relearning how to play the guitar,
if you're learning a newlanguage, if you're training for
a marathon, all these thingstake work, and it's the same if
you're training your brain togive you the life that you want,
give you your best life.
(18:40):
I mean, if I could do it,anybody could do it.
Aideen Ni Riada (18:44):
Yay, you know, I think, when you know kids need
a lot of, you know, support andencouragement, and apparently
you have to say seven thingsthat are positive to every one
negative thing.
And one of the things I feellike I've had to do for myself
is almost self-parent and tounderstand that, yeah, I might
have a bad day, but it's my jobthen to also give myself a pat
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on the back or, you know,encourage myself.
And you know, in my mind I'msaying, yeah, you know, but
maybe it is possible, or I don'tknow how it's going to work out
, but I am, I have faith that itwill, you know.
So you, I think, listeners, ifyou're listening right now and
you're and you are tellingyourself good things, keep doing
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that, because we need thatpositive reinforcement and we
don't always get it from thepeople around us.
Gail, what would you say topeople who feel like they're
being inundated by negativityall the time?
Gail Taylor (19:42):
I think that they're being.
I think it's.
Oh, this is so.
This is a perfect question forme, because I get that all the
time from folks with socialmedia.
Oh, I got to stay away fromsocial media.
It's so negative and it bringsdown my mood and I'm there Whoa,
wait a minute.
My social media is makes melaugh and smile and I get all
(20:04):
these positive comments and youknow, it's just so.
It's it's the algorithm, it'swhat you engage in.
So if you're engaging in postsand reels that are all upliving
and about making the world abetter place, then guess what?
That's what the algorithm isgoing to feed back to you.
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So just be careful that you'renot engaging in the negativeness
that you're trying to get ridof, because I don't get it,
folks.
I don't get it at all.
Aideen Ni Riada (20:36):
And I have a similar experience myself in
that, well, I don't spend a tonof time on social media, but it
is generally stuff that I wantto see.
Now, don't forget, guys, thatyou can unfollow, you can say
hide the post.
Make sure that you do that kindof thing and don't comment on
anything that you don't want tobe seeing more of.
You know, sometimes we getcaught in this, oh no, this, you
(21:00):
know, post I don't like.
I better say something, likeyou know, to offset the
negativity.
But actually that will bringmore of that kind of post into
your feed as well.
Exactly, that's really greatadvice.
Thank you so much, gail.
Gail, did you have a lot ofsupport along your journey, or
did you find that peoplemisunderstood what you were
(21:21):
doing as well?
Gail Taylor (21:25):
I had both.
I had both.
I was a little bit of a misfit,but part of it was because my
dad died when I was 12 and Idealt with it with drugs and
alcohol.
So I was in active addictionfor a lot of years and, and you
know, back to the comment thatyou just made about, uh, having
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a bad day One of my theories isdon't have too many of those bad
days.
Make sure that you take whateverit is you do for a living and
and line it up with passion andpurpose.
It's not that hard to do.
It's really important to have ajob that you like so that at
the end of the day, when you gohome, you're walking in the
(22:08):
house to your family with asmile on your face and a giggle
right, honey, I'm home and I hada good day, and I think it's so
, so, so important.
In our society we settle a lotand I say don't settle.
Find a job that you love, andthere's not limited jobs out
there, because if you sit downand say, okay, you know I love
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animals, then you could go workat a vet or you could, you know
you could find a job that linesup with being with animals.
One of the examples of this thatI give in my book and you
probably remember this is my son, because he works in pest
control and he loves his job.
And I'm there how could youlove your job?
And he said, mom, I knock onthe door and the person that
(22:54):
answers is really stressed outand they're all upset because
something's invading their homeit's cockroaches or bed bugs or
something and I explain to themhey, don't worry, you're going
to go out for four hours, thisis what I'm going to do, how I'm
going to treat your home, andwhen you come home you'll have
your home back and your peace ofmind.
(23:17):
And you know, I listened to himshare that, and I mean that job
would be my worst nightmare youknow, I don't want to be
anywhere near cockroaches or bedbugs, but he loves it and
that's the point I'm trying tomake find something to do that
gives you your purpose andpassion.
And know, when I was growing upI didn't have.
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You know my mom have struggled.
She had six kids and my daddied when she was in her 30s.
So you know she was working tokeep us together and off of
welfare.
So you know smiling at us andsaying, good girl, what wasn't?
You know it wasn't in herwheelhouse, but she was a
positive person, she was anamazing person.
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It was just the curveball.
Aideen Ni Riada (24:02):
Yeah, and I think life, Life isn't a simple
thing.
It is a series of lessons, Iguess, and it took me a long
time to realize that.
Actually, I had a lot of angerabout my own life and I didn't
have a lot of really terriblethings happening.
But I also had this wish tosing, and I didn't get my chance
(24:24):
to do that until a little bitlater in life as well.
I didn't when I was in mytwenties.
Someone asked me what's yourdream?
And I said well, my dream is tobe a singer, but I can't do
that.
And luckily, I had just been ata training, mind training, kind
of NLP, um, you know, trainingworkshop and I understood that I
was telling myself I can't dothat.
(24:46):
So therefore, if my brain couldat least come around to I can
do that, I'd have a chance andit was an.
It has been an amazing journeyand now I help other people to
fulfill their dreams with mywork.
So it's a great privilege tocome out the other end, um, and
know that your journey can besomething you'll share, to
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support and inspire others.
Gail Taylor (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, and your NLP.
For those that don't know, it'sneuro-linguistic programming
and it fits into that trainingyour brain category.
A hundred percent.
Aideen Ni Riada (25:22):
Yes, I know.
I think that there's a hugepower in words.
So when we say I can become asinger or I'm willing to try to
become a singer, the way we putit, like the words that we use,
will really they affect how werespond.
So we need to find ways to useour words that will be more
(25:47):
supportive.
Instead of I.
Actually, what I like like tosay is is it helpful or
unhelpful?
So if a phrase or a word ishelpful to me, great.
If it's not helpful, find itmore helpful one, because life
is too short to go aroundstruggling with the words we're
saying in our heads yeah, yeah.
Gail Taylor (26:03):
And in the genre of peak performance they often say
tell yourself you already havewhat it is that you want, so
that you're not always in thejourney of going after it.
Right, I'm going to be a badibadi.
Well, if your subconscious mindgets the message that you're
going to be, you're always goingto be, it's like tomorrow never
(26:26):
comes.
So maybe I am right.
I am a badip, badip.
And then each day you're doingsomething to bring that more to
the front.
Absolutely.
Aideen Ni Riada (26:40):
There's a fantastic book called Creative
Visualization by Shakti Gowen.
I highly recommend that one,but of course I also highly
recommend Gail's book Curveballs.
And how much better it is tokind of to buy a book from
someone, that you've heard themin conversation and it's such a
pleasure to get to know you,Gail.
(27:01):
Is there anything else that youwould like to tell our
listeners about that I might notthink to ask you about?
Gail Taylor (27:09):
Yeah, never give up , never give up.
And if you, you know you mightneed to do a full reinvention of
yourself, you might just needto tweak something that you
already have.
But my, my biggest message isyou got this, and so just
(27:36):
message is you got this and sojust you know, one day at a time
, and learn what it is that youhave to implement in order to
make that dream come true.
And I don't care if you're 30years old or 70 years old, you
still go for it absolutely.
Aideen Ni Riada (27:48):
Tell us a little bit before we finish up.
Tell us a tiny bit about thepublishing journey, because you
mentioned that this is yoursecond book.
What was it that helped you toput out your first book and then
this book?
How have you managed tomanifest this as part of your
journey?
Gail Taylor (28:07):
Yeah, so I self-published both of them.
The first one was around theyear 2000.
I was teaching a course at theUniversity of Alberta called
Introduction to the FinancialMarkets and I couldn't find
something I wanted to use as areference or a textbook, so I
wrote one.
So that's how the first onecame about, and I literally went
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to the bookstore and bought abook on how to write a book and
it told me all the differentpieces Do you want to be the
writer?
Do you want to be the author?
Do you want to be the writer?
Now, I had no idea that thiscould be two different people,
but that's when I learned aboutghostwriting.
I mean, I just assumed that youknow, an autobiography by Frank
(28:52):
Sinatra meant Frank Sinatrawrote a book.
But no, frank Sinatra told hisstory to a ghostwriter who wrote
it.
And so I learned so much bydoing that.
And then, this time around,when I started up my business
and I hired an entertainmentlawyer and he said what do you
want to do?
And I said keynotes.
And he said what do you want todo?
And I said keynotes.
And he said, oh, then write abook for your credibility.
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And I thought, oh perfect, Igot, I have no problem with that
idea.
So that's why it took me abouta year to write it.
And I did self-publish itbecause I needed a hundred
percent control.
So I didn't, I didn't evenapproach any publishers, I just
self-published it and and thatway I was able to, and then I
(29:35):
just hired a distribution arm.
So it's on Amazon or Barnes andNobles anywhere you can buy a
book, you can find this onewonderful.
Aideen Ni Riada (29:44):
Well, it's been an absolute pleasure to have
you here on the Resonate podcastwith me.
I have a number of episodeswith people similar to you an
amazing guitarist called PatKoldrick, who started back to
guitar in his 50s and suddenlymade a huge wave with his music,
and it's a big value of minethat it's never too late to
(30:08):
start something that you reallylove, so I'm absolutely
delighted that you were able tocome on the show today.
Is there any final words youwant to leave with our listeners
?
Gail Taylor (30:19):
No, just that, I'm honored to have been here and
yeah, yeah, I'm really reallyenjoying.
You're good at your job.
Aideen Ni Riada (30:28):
I'm a good talker.
It's the Irish in me.
Thank you so much, Gail, andyou'll be able to find Gail's
book, as she said, on Amazon andregular bookstores as well, and
you'll find some informationabout her in the show notes of
today's episode.
I would encourage you to lookGail up and check out her
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YouTube channel for her music aswell, and remember that you
have something that you canshare with all of us, and please
keep going on your journey tofull self-expression, because we
all need to see what you haveto offer too.
Thank you so much for listening.
This is the Resonate Podcastwith Aideen.
Goodbye.
Welcome to the Resonate podcast with Aideen.
I'm Aideen Ni Riada and myguest today is author Gail
Taylor.
You're very welcome, Gail,thank you.
Thanks for having me.
It's so wonderful to interviewyou.
I know you've got a lot to talkabout, a lot of encouraging
things to say to our listeners,but let me introduce you and
tell people a little about whoyou are before we get started.
(00:25):
From a successful career as aninvestment advisor at age 65,
Gail Taylor embarked on a secondact, becoming a songwriter,
author, motivational speaker andphilanthropist.
Gail recently released hersecond book, curveballs
Unlocking your Potential ThroughPersonal Growth and
(00:45):
Inspirational Music.
Gail, please tell us a littlebit about how you embarked on
this reinvention, the second act, starting as a musician after
working in finance.
How did this happen?
Gail Taylor (01:00):
Yeah.
So what happened was I was afinancial advisor for 25 years
and I loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
But then, when I was 58 yearsold, I started taking piano
lessons and I had no backgroundin music.
I mean, you know music.
I was doing the scales, I wasstarting from scratch and I just
(01:21):
loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
And music started flooding backinto my life in the sense of
listening to it, because I hadstopped listening to it without
even realizing it.
I was listening to financebooks on my way to work.
So I decided you know what?
I'm going to retire a littlesooner than planned, sell my
practice and study musicfull-time.
(01:44):
So I did that at age 61, and Ihad private teachers.
I studied through BerkeleyBerkeley School of Music because
it was online, you didn't haveto audition.
Good thing, I was taking piano,keyboard, bass, guitar,
songwriting, ear training andafter a couple of years of that,
I thought, whoa, I'm going toreinvent myself as a musician.
(02:07):
And, Aideen, when I shared thatstory to folks, I kept getting
oh Gail, that's so inspiring,I'm going to go do something.
They put on the back burner andI thought, whoa, never mind
becoming a musician.
Forget that I'm going to become.
I'm going to start a business,Gail Taylor Music.
(02:28):
Become a keynote speaker anduse my music and my stories to
help folks become their bestselves.
So that's how.
Aideen Ni Riada (02:38):
I got here.
That's absolutely amazing andyou did an amazing job of
putting that whole story intoone short little segment, Gail,
I really love it, because I'mnot sure if you know this about
me, but I started my business asteaching singing to adults and
my whole thing was helpingpeople to learn how to sing,
(03:00):
even if they never had beensinging before.
And you know, a lot of peopledo have unfulfilled dreams from
their childhood, from you know,their deepest desire within them
, and creativity is one of thosethings that sometimes gets a
little bit, you know, pushedaside and it's not really that
(03:23):
encouraged.
Not all parents are really thatkeen to encourage their kids to
do anything with creativepursuits, with music or singing,
and we can get discouraged veryquickly.
So tell us a little bit aboutyou know, where did music, where
did you lose that track like?
You must have had some interestin music earlier on did you
(03:44):
only as a fan, right?
Gail Taylor (03:46):
so I grew up in the 70s, 60s and 70s so I loved
rock and roll and I went toevery concert that there was.
I went to see the stones AliceCooper, def Leppard, led
Zeppelin like I was at everyconcert.
So, yes, I did love, love music, but I had no, no training and
(04:08):
no knowledge.
And singing was one of thethings that I took singing
lessons and it's interestingwhat you just shared, because my
singing teacher, same as you,was teaching adults that it was
new to them and then, when itcame recital time, they didn't
want to go on stage.
But what happened was and thisis what I talk about in
(04:31):
curveballs, you know developingyour self-confidence and being
able to get up on that stage andenjoy yourself at whatever
level you're at.
You don't have to be at thelevel of the top student or at
the level of the teacher, you'reat your level.
And so I'd get up on stage andI'd do songs like Blue Suede
(04:53):
Shoes by Elvis Presley, and thenthe next thing, you know, her
other adult students were sayingokay, I think I could do this.
Gail's up there having fun, Icould do it.
So, really, yeah, the answer toyour question is you know, it's
just self-confidence, trying itout and finding out that it's
(05:14):
fun.
Aideen Ni Riada (05:15):
I love it.
Yeah, I mean, one of the keythings I used to do with my
students was an eight weekcourse and there was always a
concert at the end and most ofthe students always performed.
Because that was my business,was like I was, you know,
studied psychology and I wasbringing out confidence in
people.
But the the thing that I thinka lot of adults forget is that
(05:36):
you don't have to be you knowgood at something.
Quickly, you know, and aschildren we're, we're willing to
make mistakes.
We're willing to kind of getinto the sandbox and make a
crappy sandcastle and have fundoing it until we make a better
one.
But sometimes we're very overlycritical as adults.
How did you overcome thatyourself?
(05:58):
You know, what was it that madeit easier for you to take steps
into, you know, that scaryplace of wow, I'm trying, but
it's not good yet.
Gail Taylor (06:10):
I'd say it was about accepting where I was at,
not not like.
Sometimes we get in our headsand we think, okay, this is my
goal, I want to be at that level.
Well, you're not at that level.
So enjoy the journey, acceptthe level that you're at right
now and play at that level.
And you know I think that'spart of where the challenge
(06:33):
comes from is that you're notgoing to get up even for a
recital.
You're not going to get up andplay better than you've ever,
ever played before.
In fact, I had a teacher oncesay to me ever played before.
In fact, I had a teacher oncesay to me you're probably going
to play at about 70%.
So if you think of, you knowyou're playing all alone in your
music studio in my case it's amusic studio.
(06:55):
If you're playing all alone,whatever your 100% is, when you
get up on stage it'll probablybe about 70% of that because of
the nerves and just being awareof that and comfortable with it.
And you know, cut yourself someslack.
Aideen Ni Riada (07:11):
And I think it's really important that
people understand that, evenwhen you become a success at
something, or when you're seenas a success like I mean, I'm a
singer and I perform and I havemy YouTube stuff and you're an
author, for instance, so peoplewill look at either of us and
they'll be like, okay, well,they might not get nerves
anymore, but the truth is, allof us are comparing ourselves to
(07:32):
a future version of ourselvesthat we aspire to become and,
unfortunately, if we don'taccept where we're currently at,
we won't take the necessarysteps to move into that greater
competency and that greaterability.
Gail Taylor (07:51):
Oh yeah, Nerves are a good thing.
I mean, if you didn't have anynerves, you might get up on
stage, whether you're singing or, in my case, talking or and be
a little bit boring, Right,Because the nerves gives you
adrenaline.
I mean, Jerry Seinfeld wasdoing his career for years and
he said I still get nervousevery time.
(08:11):
He said I get imposter syndromewhen I'm going on stage.
I think, oh my God, I'm notfunny, why am I going out there?
And then he says after I tell ajoke and they laugh I find
myself in the zone it's the samefor all of us, right?
So don't try to not have thebutterflies in your stomach or
the nerves.
Don't try.
(08:32):
You're not striving to get ridof them.
Aideen Ni Riada (08:35):
You're just going to turn them from that
nervousness into excitement andyou're going to just channel it
in your performance excitementand and you're going to just
channel it in your performance,and it's important, I think, to
recognize that internally in ournervous system feels
nervousness and excitement, verysimilarly like butterflies in
the stomach, sweaty palms, maybeyour breathing changes.
(08:57):
So it's interesting that youcan interpret those feelings as
I'm too nervous to do this orjust I'm really excited to do it
.
Gail Taylor (09:06):
Right, right.
And then that brings us to thepreparation.
Right.
What are the five Ps?
Proper preparation preventspoor performance.
That was Snoop Dogg's five Ps,if you are.
I mean, there's people that areso prepared and then they're
nervous.
They get up on stage, theyalmost have an out-of-body
(09:29):
experience, but they still didtheir piece and they did a great
job because they were soprepared.
It was rote.
Aideen Ni Riada (09:37):
Yes, yeah, it becomes an automatic thing, like
being able to drive the car towork.
You know, your body just knowshow to do it.
Yeah, this is such aninteresting topic.
Able to drive the car to work.
You know you, your body justknows how to do it.
Um, yeah, this is such aninteresting topic, and so you
know, there's always these.
You know there's obstacles onour path to everything that we
(09:59):
want to do.
It's, you know, especially ifit's if we're leveling up or
we're transforming or changingor stepping into a new version
of ourselves.
And I know that your new book,curveballs, speaks to the idea
that you know things come at us,but you know it's we have to
somehow see them in a way thathelps us move forward.
(10:19):
So what is it you recommendpeople do with the curveballs in
life?
Gail Taylor (10:23):
Yeah, so, whether it's a curveball or challenges
wherever it comes from.
So for me, there's so manydifferent ways you're going to
handle it, depending on what itis.
So the way the book's designedis, I actually tell a personal
story.
It's a curveball that lifethrew at me, and there were a
(10:47):
lot of them from you know thedeath of a parent when I was
young, to addiction, to a childin addiction, like there were.
Life threw me lots ofcurveballs, and so there's a
story about a curveball and thenthe tools that I use to work my
way through it.
I studied personal growth andpeak performance for 40 years,
(11:09):
so there's lots of differenttools to be used, depending on
the curveball.
And then this is cool At theend of every chapter there's a
QR code so you could put yourphone over it and it'll take you
to YouTube to watch a lyricvideo of the song that I wrote
that was inspired by that story.
Wow, so so, yeah, I literallyput a soundtrack in my book.
(11:34):
Right, I put a soundtrack in mybook.
It's awesome.
Aideen Ni Riada (11:38):
And I, I, actually I read your book, I
read most of it.
I read your book, I read mostof it.
I did, I did kind of I jumped alittle bit around, but I, I, I
think it's a very thorough bookin that it kind it's almost like
you could write two or threebooks out of that one book,
cause you covered so much aboutyour life and so many different
strategies, even talk aboutfinancial strategies, which, of
(12:00):
course, your background isfinance.
So I was curious.
Gail Taylor (12:03):
I couldn't leave that out.
Aideen Ni Riada (12:04):
You couldn't leave it out.
And then you know it's so coolbeing able to just use the phone
and check out the YouTubevideos, so it's amazing.
You know, in the end, I believethat each of us connects with
certain people more than otherpeople can Like, as in I could
(12:24):
say some amazing wisdom, right,and then you'll come on and you
might say something very similar, but the person who gets it
from Gail, that needs it fromGail, is going to have it sink
in, and I feel like you'reimportant because you say it in
(12:45):
your way and each personlistening to the podcast has
other things that they have,that they're wise about, that
they understand, and we need tobe careful that we value the
things we know, we value thejourney we've been on, and what
would you say to people thatfeel like their journey isn't
important?
Gail Taylor (13:06):
oh, there's no such thing.
Everybody's journey is equallyimportant and how you move it in
the direction that you want itto be in, I mean that's the
first step.
Like what do you want it to bein?
I mean that's the first step,like what do you want?
And then use your imagination.
I mean, look at you know we'retalking about me and music and I
have a catalog of 18 songs andthey're on Spotify and Apple and
(13:29):
YouTube, and I'm not even amusician.
I'm not your traditionalmusician.
What I do is I write the song,I co-write with a friend, we do
a demo, I hire a music studiodown in Nashville and they
record it for me.
I hire a vocalist.
So you know, technology rightnow is so amazing that I don't
(13:52):
have to send my song to a recordlabel or to an existing artist
and if they don't like it, itsits in a file.
I can bring it to life myselfand that's how I answer your
question is.
You know, think out of the box.
Just wherever you are on yourjourney is where you're supposed
to be.
(14:12):
Just look at where do you wantto go and start creating it.
Aideen Ni Riada (14:18):
I love this.
Guys, listen to this carefully.
Wherever you are right now,it's where you're supposed to be
.
You're exactly where you'remeant to be right now and that
is just the most important thing.
If we can accept that we'reexactly where we're meant to be,
(14:39):
we will be practical, pragmatic, we will take it on and we'll
stop having that.
You know, monkey mind, you knowcomplaining about circumstances
, because in the end, I think weare all dealing with
circumstances and theycircumstances of our lives can.
Sometimes, you know, they'relike a roadblock, they're like a
brick wall in front of us.
(15:00):
You mentioned earlier, beforewe started, that it's not so
much the curve ball that comesyour way, it's how you handle
that.
Would you like to speak alittle more to that point for
our listeners sake, in case theyfeel that they are hitting a
brick wall in life?
Gail Taylor (15:19):
yeah, because and I say that you know, I stole this
from someone else on a podcastI come from a place of healed
scars and not open wounds, and Ithink that's what the curveball
is.
The curveball is the open woundand, yes, you can get past it.
(15:41):
Yes, you will get past it ifyou want to and if you choose to
do whatever it is.
You know it's not easy, it'swork.
A big, big piece of this isyour internal dialogue.
What are you telling yourself?
Right, negative thinking is notgoing to work.
And so make sure, like I have alittle trick and I talk about
(16:04):
this in the book if you'retelling yourself, oh yeah, but
I'm traumatized because of this,that and the other thing, and
so I'll never be able to garbagein garbage.
That's what I use as my mantragarbage in, garbage out.
And then I reframe it and say,wow, I just experienced the real
curveball.
(16:25):
I wonder what I could do withit to create the journey I want
to create, reframe it.
However, you want Now reframingyourself.
Like Tony Robbins said ifyou're in your head, you're dead
.
Now reframing yourself, likeTony Robbins said if you're in
your head, you're dead.
Reframing yourself isn'tsomething you're going to do
overnight.
This isn't a New Year'sresolution, it might.
(16:46):
You know.
If you're very commonlyself-sabotaging, then it might
take you 18 months to retrainyour brain.
Maybe it'll take you threemonths.
It's going to take everybody adifferent amount of time, but
look at it as that.
Catch yourself.
Every time you find yourselfsaying a negative thought, catch
(17:07):
it.
Find your own mantra Garbage in, garbage out.
Sometimes I yell it garbage in,garbage out.
And I still do it to this dayday.
I've been doing this for like40 years and I still do it.
I still catch myself.
Wait a minute, and so that'swhat I do.
I learn about your internaldialogue, the power of positive
(17:30):
thinking.
There's so many resources.
There's so many books.
There's so many.
Go to youtube university.
Oh yeah.
All you have to do is googlepositive thinking and you'll
find something will come up forno cost absolutely, and it's so
readily available.
Aideen Ni Riada (17:47):
But a lot of people think that if they've
been working on themselves for awhile, that those negative
thoughts should disappear yeah,you have to train your brain to
stop doing it.
Gail Taylor (17:59):
They don't, you can't, will them away.
It's I almost call it, uh,self-hypnosis right, you're
training your brain, and thenyour subconscious mind, to
create the life you want tocreate and not the one that was
thrown at you through externalforces and that you know.
(18:20):
Think about it.
If you're learning how to playa new instrument, if you're
learning how to sing, if you'relearning how to play the guitar,
if you're learning a newlanguage, if you're training for
a marathon, all these thingstake work, and it's the same if
you're training your brain togive you the life that you want,
give you your best life.
(18:40):
I mean, if I could do it,anybody could do it.
Aideen Ni Riada (18:44):
Yay, you know, I think, when you know kids need
a lot of, you know, support andencouragement, and apparently
you have to say seven thingsthat are positive to every one
negative thing.
And one of the things I feellike I've had to do for myself
is almost self-parent and tounderstand that, yeah, I might
have a bad day, but it's my jobthen to also give myself a pat
(19:08):
on the back or, you know,encourage myself.
And you know, in my mind I'msaying, yeah, you know, but
maybe it is possible, or I don'tknow how it's going to work out
, but I am, I have faith that itwill, you know.
So you, I think, listeners, ifyou're listening right now and
you're and you are tellingyourself good things, keep doing
(19:29):
that, because we need thatpositive reinforcement and we
don't always get it from thepeople around us.
Gail, what would you say topeople who feel like they're
being inundated by negativityall the time?
Gail Taylor (19:42):
I think that they're being.
I think it's.
Oh, this is so.
This is a perfect question forme, because I get that all the
time from folks with socialmedia.
Oh, I got to stay away fromsocial media.
It's so negative and it bringsdown my mood and I'm there Whoa,
wait a minute.
My social media is makes melaugh and smile and I get all
(20:04):
these positive comments and youknow, it's just so.
It's it's the algorithm, it'swhat you engage in.
So if you're engaging in postsand reels that are all upliving
and about making the world abetter place, then guess what?
That's what the algorithm isgoing to feed back to you.
(20:24):
So just be careful that you'renot engaging in the negativeness
that you're trying to get ridof, because I don't get it,
folks.
I don't get it at all.
Aideen Ni Riada (20:36):
And I have a similar experience myself in
that, well, I don't spend a tonof time on social media, but it
is generally stuff that I wantto see.
Now, don't forget, guys, thatyou can unfollow, you can say
hide the post.
Make sure that you do that kindof thing and don't comment on
anything that you don't want tobe seeing more of.
You know, sometimes we getcaught in this, oh no, this, you
(21:00):
know, post I don't like.
I better say something, likeyou know, to offset the
negativity.
But actually that will bringmore of that kind of post into
your feed as well.
Exactly, that's really greatadvice.
Thank you so much, gail.
Gail, did you have a lot ofsupport along your journey, or
did you find that peoplemisunderstood what you were
(21:21):
doing as well?
Gail Taylor (21:25):
I had both.
I had both.
I was a little bit of a misfit,but part of it was because my
dad died when I was 12 and Idealt with it with drugs and
alcohol.
So I was in active addictionfor a lot of years and, and you
know, back to the comment thatyou just made about, uh, having
(21:45):
a bad day One of my theories isdon't have too many of those bad
days.
Make sure that you take whateverit is you do for a living and
and line it up with passion andpurpose.
It's not that hard to do.
It's really important to have ajob that you like so that at
the end of the day, when you gohome, you're walking in the
(22:08):
house to your family with asmile on your face and a giggle
right, honey, I'm home and I hada good day, and I think it's so
, so, so important.
In our society we settle a lotand I say don't settle.
Find a job that you love, andthere's not limited jobs out
there, because if you sit downand say, okay, you know I love
(22:31):
animals, then you could go workat a vet or you could, you know
you could find a job that linesup with being with animals.
One of the examples of this thatI give in my book and you
probably remember this is my son, because he works in pest
control and he loves his job.
And I'm there how could youlove your job?
And he said, mom, I knock onthe door and the person that
(22:54):
answers is really stressed outand they're all upset because
something's invading their homeit's cockroaches or bed bugs or
something and I explain to themhey, don't worry, you're going
to go out for four hours, thisis what I'm going to do, how I'm
going to treat your home, andwhen you come home you'll have
your home back and your peace ofmind.
(23:17):
And you know, I listened to himshare that, and I mean that job
would be my worst nightmare youknow, I don't want to be
anywhere near cockroaches or bedbugs, but he loves it and
that's the point I'm trying tomake find something to do that
gives you your purpose andpassion.
And know, when I was growing upI didn't have.
(23:37):
You know my mom have struggled.
She had six kids and my daddied when she was in her 30s.
So you know she was working tokeep us together and off of
welfare.
So you know smiling at us andsaying, good girl, what wasn't?
You know it wasn't in herwheelhouse, but she was a
positive person, she was anamazing person.
(23:59):
It was just the curveball.
Aideen Ni Riada (24:02):
Yeah, and I think life, Life isn't a simple
thing.
It is a series of lessons, Iguess, and it took me a long
time to realize that.
Actually, I had a lot of angerabout my own life and I didn't
have a lot of really terriblethings happening.
But I also had this wish tosing, and I didn't get my chance
(24:24):
to do that until a little bitlater in life as well.
I didn't when I was in mytwenties.
Someone asked me what's yourdream?
And I said well, my dream is tobe a singer, but I can't do
that.
And luckily, I had just been ata training, mind training, kind
of NLP, um, you know, trainingworkshop and I understood that I
was telling myself I can't dothat.
(24:46):
So therefore, if my brain couldat least come around to I can
do that, I'd have a chance andit was an.
It has been an amazing journeyand now I help other people to
fulfill their dreams with mywork.
So it's a great privilege tocome out the other end, um, and
know that your journey can besomething you'll share, to
(25:07):
support and inspire others.
Gail Taylor (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, and your NLP.
For those that don't know, it'sneuro-linguistic programming
and it fits into that trainingyour brain category.
A hundred percent.
Aideen Ni Riada (25:22):
Yes, I know.
I think that there's a hugepower in words.
So when we say I can become asinger or I'm willing to try to
become a singer, the way we putit, like the words that we use,
will really they affect how werespond.
So we need to find ways to useour words that will be more
(25:47):
supportive.
Instead of I.
Actually, what I like like tosay is is it helpful or
unhelpful?
So if a phrase or a word ishelpful to me, great.
If it's not helpful, find itmore helpful one, because life
is too short to go aroundstruggling with the words we're
saying in our heads yeah, yeah.
Gail Taylor (26:03):
And in the genre of peak performance they often say
tell yourself you already havewhat it is that you want, so
that you're not always in thejourney of going after it.
Right, I'm going to be a badibadi.
Well, if your subconscious mindgets the message that you're
going to be, you're always goingto be, it's like tomorrow never
(26:26):
comes.
So maybe I am right.
I am a badip, badip.
And then each day you're doingsomething to bring that more to
the front.
Absolutely.
Aideen Ni Riada (26:40):
There's a fantastic book called Creative
Visualization by Shakti Gowen.
I highly recommend that one,but of course I also highly
recommend Gail's book Curveballs.
And how much better it is tokind of to buy a book from
someone, that you've heard themin conversation and it's such a
pleasure to get to know you,Gail.
(27:01):
Is there anything else that youwould like to tell our
listeners about that I might notthink to ask you about?
Gail Taylor (27:09):
Yeah, never give up , never give up.
And if you, you know you mightneed to do a full reinvention of
yourself, you might just needto tweak something that you
already have.
But my, my biggest message isyou got this, and so just
(27:36):
message is you got this and sojust you know, one day at a time
, and learn what it is that youhave to implement in order to
make that dream come true.
And I don't care if you're 30years old or 70 years old, you
still go for it absolutely.
Aideen Ni Riada (27:48):
Tell us a little bit before we finish up.
Tell us a tiny bit about thepublishing journey, because you
mentioned that this is yoursecond book.
What was it that helped you toput out your first book and then
this book?
How have you managed tomanifest this as part of your
journey?
Gail Taylor (28:07):
Yeah, so I self-published both of them.
The first one was around theyear 2000.
I was teaching a course at theUniversity of Alberta called
Introduction to the FinancialMarkets and I couldn't find
something I wanted to use as areference or a textbook, so I
wrote one.
So that's how the first onecame about, and I literally went
(28:31):
to the bookstore and bought abook on how to write a book and
it told me all the differentpieces Do you want to be the
writer?
Do you want to be the author?
Do you want to be the writer?
Now, I had no idea that thiscould be two different people,
but that's when I learned aboutghostwriting.
I mean, I just assumed that youknow, an autobiography by Frank
(28:52):
Sinatra meant Frank Sinatrawrote a book.
But no, frank Sinatra told hisstory to a ghostwriter who wrote
it.
And so I learned so much bydoing that.
And then, this time around,when I started up my business
and I hired an entertainmentlawyer and he said what do you
want to do?
And I said keynotes.
And he said what do you want todo?
And I said keynotes.
And he said, oh, then write abook for your credibility.
(29:14):
And I thought, oh perfect, Igot, I have no problem with that
idea.
So that's why it took me abouta year to write it.
And I did self-publish itbecause I needed a hundred
percent control.
So I didn't, I didn't evenapproach any publishers, I just
self-published it and and thatway I was able to, and then I
(29:35):
just hired a distribution arm.
So it's on Amazon or Barnes andNobles anywhere you can buy a
book, you can find this onewonderful.
Aideen Ni Riada (29:44):
Well, it's been an absolute pleasure to have
you here on the Resonate podcastwith me.
I have a number of episodeswith people similar to you an
amazing guitarist called PatKoldrick, who started back to
guitar in his 50s and suddenlymade a huge wave with his music,
and it's a big value of minethat it's never too late to
(30:08):
start something that you reallylove, so I'm absolutely
delighted that you were able tocome on the show today.
Is there any final words youwant to leave with our listeners
?
Gail Taylor (30:19):
No, just that, I'm honored to have been here and
yeah, yeah, I'm really reallyenjoying.
You're good at your job.
Aideen Ni Riada (30:28):
I'm a good talker.
It's the Irish in me.
Thank you so much, Gail, andyou'll be able to find Gail's
book, as she said, on Amazon andregular bookstores as well, and
you'll find some informationabout her in the show notes of
today's episode.
I would encourage you to lookGail up and check out her
(30:49):
YouTube channel for her music aswell, and remember that you
have something that you canshare with all of us, and please
keep going on your journey tofull self-expression, because we
all need to see what you haveto offer too.
Thank you so much for listening.
This is the Resonate Podcastwith Aideen.
Goodbye.
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