SPEED / The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down (Guest: Chris Morson)

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SPEAKER_05 (00:00):
We're going to figure it the fuck out as we go
over the entire map of the wholeplace.
It's a real pop quiz there,Hotshot.
What do you do?
What do you do?
We introduce ourselves.
Hi, everyone.
Welcome to The Review Review.
My name is Paul.
I'm a co-host here.
I am Ben.
I am also a co-host here.

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And we normally have a fabulousguest with us, and today is no
different.
We have Christopher Morrisonwith us.
Christopher, say hello to thepeople.

SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Hello, everybody.
Thanks

SPEAKER_05 (00:32):
for having me, guys.
I'm talking about The Elevator,but yes.
Oh, gotcha.
In case you don't know what thisis, this is a movie podcast

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called The Review Review.
Of course you knew what thiswas.
We typically do a movie that'sseven years old or older, two
hours and 22 minutes or less,and not part of any major
franchise unless it's on Ben andor I's breaker list.
True.
And this one was on both.

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Yeah.
It's Speed.
Yes.
Which doesn't have a sequel.

UNKNOWN (01:22):
What?

SPEAKER_05 (01:23):
No.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24):
Oh,

SPEAKER_05 (01:25):
come on.
It's not really a sequel, right?
Is

SPEAKER_03 (01:28):
it?
I

SPEAKER_05 (01:30):
don't know.
Let's not talk about that one.
It was in space, right?
Should have been.
Whatever.
The shuttle cannot slow down.
A lot of slingshotting.
No gravity.
You know.
Super fun.
I mean, yeah, it was calledGravity, right?
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
But Carson.
of gravity, but then Fast andFurious ends up in space.

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We can get it back.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52):
We

SPEAKER_04 (01:52):
can.

SPEAKER_02 (01:53):
We got it.

UNKNOWN (01:53):
Christopher Morrison, tell all of our adoring fans
about you.
Who are you?
What do you do?

SPEAKER_02 (01:58):
I'm an actor, producer, watch a lot of TV,
just made a little movierecently, like to bartend
occasionally to make a littleextra cash.

SPEAKER_05 (02:09):
Always the fucking dollar.
He's selling himself short.
Christopher Morrison is afantastic actor.
Where can they see your work?
Very talented, very talentedperson.
Yeah, what are you excited?
What have you been doing?

SPEAKER_04 (02:43):
I've done a couple of shows here or there, Netflix,
sci-fi.

SPEAKER_05 (02:48):
You have something coming out in September, you
were telling me, right?

SPEAKER_02 (02:53):
I do, yeah.
I'm doing the story of EdgarSautel with Bookett Repertory
Theater.
They take books and adapt themin the plays.

SPEAKER_04 (03:00):
It's sort of a structure based like the story
of Hamlet, but it takes place ona dog

SPEAKER_02 (03:07):
breeding farm in the middle of the country.
Very interesting.
And yeah, Bookett RepertoryTheater is a great company.
I've worked with a lot throughthe years.
I believe Ben has worked withthem a couple of times as well.
The company kind of dissolved alittle bit after 2020, and this
is their kind of resurgence backin the Seattle scene.
So I'm super happy to be a partof that and excited to be

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performing that at the end ofSeptember, early October at
Broadway Performance Hall inSeattle, Washington.

SPEAKER_05 (03:35):
So go check it out, everybody.
Bookit.org, is that their emailstill?
It is.
It is.
Yeah.
So you can probably find more.
information there.
Ben, what you been doing?
Oh man, what have I not beendoing, Paul?
That's the question.
Let's name what I haven't beendoing.

SPEAKER_03 (03:54):
Cool.

SPEAKER_05 (03:55):
Sleeping.
A little bit of that.
Not as much as, I mean, muchmore than I was doing a couple
weeks ago.
Still in post for Rough Ways.
I finished my first course ofgrad school starting back up at
my job job I've been gettingback into auditioning for

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theater which I kind of thoughtwas something that had left me
behind and suddenly it's a thingthat people want me to do again
wonderful yeah it does feel goodwho knows might not be anything
put some monologues on tape forthe first time in a long time
and sent them out to a fewplaces per request from one and

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so other than that I'm going tobe doing, I'm doing Southern
Bard, which a guest of thispodcast, Mike Bowers runs, which
is Shakespeare in the set in theSouth performed in a bar.
So that's awesome.
That's one night.
Yeah.
One night of the 12th of 12thnight playing Antonio.
I'm doing that, uh, end of thismonth.

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Welcome back, everyone, toPaul's Recipe Corner, or PRC,
which means nothing else butthat, Paul's Recipe Corner.
I made nachos.
Nice.
For the fam.
Such a hit.
I'm very proud to say.
Tell me about how you make yournachos.
Leftover nachos.
It's got to be Juan Tonio's iswhat they're called now.

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The chips, salted tortillachips.
Juan Tonio's.
Are they Juan Tonio?
Well, they had to change theirname.
Okay.
Juan Tonio's.
You put a little bit of thepinto bean juice in the ground
beef.
You got to do 80-20 ground beef.
You got to do a good packet ofseasoning.
Taco Bell brand is fine.

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It's just fine.
I don't know.
Old El Paso is fine.
And then olives, tomatoes,crispy fresh romaine, that pinto
bean, that ground beef, freshlyshredded cheddar and jack
cheese, Hotija cheese, maybe.
I love the cheeses.
Black olives.

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Yeah, just delicious.
Chives.
Sour cream.
Hot sauce.
How many layers of cheese do youbake?
Do you do chips, cheese, chips,cheese?
How do you layer it?
I do, sir.
I do chips, cheese, meat.
Chips, cheese, meat.
And then when it comes out ofthe oven, the cheese is nicely
melted.
Chris, this is this segment.

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This is like a 42-story high.
This is great.

SPEAKER_04 (06:31):
I'm just thinking about the monsters who just like
put the pile of chips and theneverything on top of it

SPEAKER_05 (06:36):
you

SPEAKER_04 (06:36):
can't you

SPEAKER_05 (06:37):
can't do

SPEAKER_04 (06:37):
it but people do that

SPEAKER_05 (06:39):
i know utah that's not nachos that's just like you
get a layer of deliciousness andthen just bear chips or soggy
chips soggy chips that have justgiven the fuck up in some cases
antonio's never gives up theground but i don't want to eat
those just terrible and chives ithink i probably said chives i
love chives that's me

SPEAKER_02 (07:01):
yeah When you eat nachos, are you, uh, do you
think about it and like whatother people might want to like
get,

SPEAKER_04 (07:09):
or are you just going in?

SPEAKER_05 (07:10):
Do you remember the movie saving Silverman?

SPEAKER_04 (07:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (07:13):
Yes.
They're eating nachos and he'slike, Hey, he picks one up and
he picks up like the whole toplayer.
If the chips are stuck together,that's one notch.
That's one notch.
You can't just take, you can'ttake the chips with all the meat
and toppings.
We have a policy.
You wouldn't talk to him, butyou Yeah, hey everyone, what
have you been watching?

SPEAKER_04 (07:51):
I watched the Dave Franco, Alison Brie movie the
other day together.
So

SPEAKER_03 (07:59):
that

SPEAKER_02 (08:02):
was, I've been watching that a little bit of
quarterback on Netflix, tryingto get back into the fantasy
football world again and kind ofget inspired a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 (08:14):
Watching

SPEAKER_02 (08:15):
my boy Joe and getting back in the football
mentality because I feel likeonce fantasy football all season
starts I'm

SPEAKER_04 (08:22):
doing that so much and then when it stops I kind of
try to detach a little bit sure

SPEAKER_05 (08:27):
I've been watching that too what have you thought
of it so did you watch the wholething no

SPEAKER_02 (08:32):
no I'm only I'm only a couple episodes in it's
interesting when you're watchinga show like that that

SPEAKER_04 (08:37):
takes place last season and then you're kind of
remembering the games andthinking and seeing that oh wow
that they were doing this whilethey were going through that
sort of like when the

SPEAKER_05 (08:51):
line demolished the Seahawks in week four.
Yeah.
Absolutely demolished us.
They showed that whole game.
Are you okay?
We were 3-0 up to that point, ifyou don't recall.
We were 3-0.
I don't recall that.
Maybe it was in quarterback, andI don't even remember.
It was.
It is the most importantposition in sports.

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That's what Peyton says a lot.
I think of all sports that istrue, unless you're playing by
yourself as a boxer orsomething.
I mean, like the only otherargument you could make is maybe
pitcher.
You're the director on thefield.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, so I agree.
It's got to be really difficultto anticipate to everybody.

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You have to be Monsieur Gustaveanticipating wide receiver moves
and, you know, fakes and allthis kind of stuff.
But Christopher, you're going tofinish it.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 (09:45):
Oh! I mean, we got, what, a month before the season
starts and then I got to startrunning my league and dealing
with Ben's league.

SPEAKER_05 (09:55):
Paul, what have you been

SPEAKER_04 (09:56):
watching?

SPEAKER_05 (09:56):
Me?
Okay.
I have been re-watching TheWire.
Nice.
Because that show's fuckingawesome.
It's a perfect show.
I watched Homicide Life on theStreet and then graduated to The
Wire later on and fucking A.
It's just so good.
Sometimes the folks that don'tfeel like trained actors do some

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of the coolest shows shit it'sso authentic and on that note
mark maron has a new special onhbo called panicked i like him
really enjoyed it okay talkingabout depression versus anxiety
versus shame versus like justlet me be okay with fucking soy

(10:43):
milk or whatever it is let me beokay with buying a shirt that is
made of what just let me fuckinglive i'm tired of constantly
recently being panicked abouteverything.
And it is really vulnerable andgood.
And I really enjoyed it quite abit.
I

SPEAKER_02 (10:59):
feel like I did that to my mom yesterday being like,
you don't have Chobani yogurt inyour fridge, do you?
She's like, why?
I'm like, oh, there's cancer inthose packages.
She's like, that's the yogurt Ieat.
I was like, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 (11:11):
Just let me eat fucking

SPEAKER_05 (11:12):
yogurt.
Apparently microplastics are inglass now.
What are we going to do?
What are you going to do?
Ben.
Yeah.
What have you been watching?
So I fell hard into a pit.
The pit, as it were.
I've been watching The Pit onHBO Max.
After all the Emmy nominationscame out, and it got a bunch,

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and I listened to an NPR episodeabout them, and they were like,
it's The Pit's year, and I'mlike, okay, I better give this
an opportunity.
And I'm not a big proceduralhospital guy.
I used to watch House a lot, andI liked the original ER, but
like, I've never really gotteninto any of the other ones.
I was like, well, I don't reallycount that as one of those

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procedural hospitals becauseit's a comedy.
No Chicago Hope?
Nope.
No Hill Street News?
Nope.
No.
Hill Street No News?

SPEAKER_03 (12:09):
No The Good Doctor?
The Resident?

SPEAKER_05 (12:12):
Nope.

SPEAKER_03 (12:13):
Come on.
Chicago Med?

SPEAKER_05 (12:15):
Nope.
Chicago RN?
That's not one.
Chicago High school counseloryes that's a great show i love
that one great show good showchicago crossing guard but
anyway the funny thing about thepit which i didn't realize is
that it's not a proceduralhospital show right it's it's

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very much uh i mean it's aprestige drama but the concept
is that each episode is justanother hour in this morning at
an er in pittsburgh and so likethe first episode is like 7 a.m
to 8 a.m and then the nextepisode is 8 a.m to at 9am and
that's the entire season.
It is great.
The performances are great andthe script is great and I see

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why the Crichton Estate did Suebecause it was originally
proposed as an ER spinoff.
It was turned down by theCrichton Estate and then they
were like, well, we're going tomake this anyway and just change
the names.
I think they settled outside ofcourt.
It is very ER-esque.
Is there a level of it that it's24 at an extremely over busy

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hospital yes to the degree thatlike the hospital is like
jam-packed and like they'reconstantly just churning and
burning but like there's notlike a ticking clock in terms of
like they have to accomplishsomething in a certain amount of
time you know it's really justlike they have patients patients
come in they live they die andthen they might stick around for

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a And Noah Wiley is phenomenal.
What I really appreciate aboutit in a weird way is this sort
of like recognition that deathis just a normal part of
existing.
They'll lose someone and they'llhave a moment and then they go
on with their day.
It's not like this overlysaccharine or sentimental thing

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that I think some of thesehospital shows really go deep
into.
It doesn't fall into that pit.

SPEAKER_03 (14:17):
Oh, hi, Mark.
So

SPEAKER_05 (14:19):
anyhow, I'm enjoying it.
Garth Murray, he's Darkfoot.
HBO Max.
What about Garth Marenghi's DarkPlace?
Medical Procedurals.
Oh, I've actually never seenthat, Paul.
Oh, boy.
We got to work on that.
Okay.
Okay.
We're not going fast enough forthis episode, guys.
We need to pick up the pacebecause if we drop below 50, I

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don't know what to tell you.
We're going to learn about lifeand death and how important or
unimportant that may be.
Did people just drive slower inthe 90s?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (14:49):
Keep

SPEAKER_05 (14:49):
it

SPEAKER_02 (14:49):
above 50 in LA.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (14:51):
And watching when the bus first gets on the
freeway, you're telling me it'snot above 50?
Because they say once it goesabove 50, it can't drop.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
It's on the freeway.
It's going like 45?
Let's not worry about some ofthe physics of this movie.
I have a whole page on physics.
On ramps, off ramps, the math ofit.

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Christopher, let go.
Let it go.
The lean?
We've got to figure that out.
The weight distribution?
I was trying to do the math.
uh trust me i've used supernintendo controllers enough when
i was back in my 40s i usedsuper i mean you lean that
fucker moves like mario will gofurther if chris's camera just
panned slowly to the right hehas one of those like murder

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boards with all this like mathand like he's charlie and uh
meme yeah just smokingcigarettes like the lean doesn't
make sense the jump the math thephysics

SPEAKER_03 (15:45):
cocaine okay

SPEAKER_05 (15:46):
there is no limit paul let's keep going we have
we've talked about we've talkedabout what we've been doing.
We've talked about what we'rewatching.
Tell me about the facts, Ben.

SPEAKER_03 (15:59):
Archaeology is the search for facts.

SPEAKER_05 (16:04):
We are doing the movie titled Speed.
We're not doing Speed.

SPEAKER_03 (16:10):
Cocaine.

SPEAKER_05 (16:11):
We are doing the movie titled Speed.
You were very careful with that.
Yeah.
It'd be going a lot faster.
Yeah.
Mark Gordon, 20th CenturyStudios.
I'm not 20th Century Fox, as yousee there.
The Fox is no more.
It is rated R.
It is from 1994 and it is anhour and 56 minutes.
Technically, it is one hour, 55minutes, and 55 seconds.

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Hell yeah.
Right?
Hell yeah, dog.
I wonder how much they had tohear.
Like, I gotta cut that mic for asecond.
It's me editing this.
Yes.
Paul's gonna have to edit theshit out of this to make it
sound like we are talkingfaster.
Budget.
30 million adjusted and that is65.3 million.
Unbelievable.
That is crazy.

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June 10th, 1994, 14 million inthe U.S.
Adjusted, that's 31.6.
Final gross in North America,121.2.
Adjusted, that's 263.7.
Final gross worldwide, that is350.4.
Adjusted, 771.3 million dollars.

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Wow.
That is a juggernaut.
Yeah.
It was the summer of speed baby

SPEAKER_06 (17:22):
yeah

SPEAKER_05 (17:23):
other releases this weekend city slickers 2 legend
of curly's gold i love cityslickers man big fan uh weekend
top five this movie theflintstones city slickers 2
maverick and renaissance manother films from 1994 double
dragon leprechaun 2 china moon asimple twist of fate cabin boy

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pcu what's that Anyone know?
Movie with Jeremy Piven incollege.
Brainscan, Blank Man, and CleanSlate.
These are the classic moviesfrom 1994.
Yeah, definitely know.
This is crazy.
All of those.

UNKNOWN (18:06):
Wow.

SPEAKER_05 (18:07):
You're a big Leprechaun 2 fan?
I'm kind

SPEAKER_04 (18:09):
of

SPEAKER_05 (18:10):
a big Leprechaun fan.
It's better than BoondockSaints, so we could have done
Leprechaun, Paul.
Leprechaun 2 is my preferredLeprechaun, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, for next time,you know, St.
Patrick's Day.
Let's, we don't have to doBoondock Saints 2.
Leprechaun 2 is good.
He's gay.
The hood is good.

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Space is great.
They're all, they're all great.
But

SPEAKER_06 (18:35):
he has a special connection to St.
Patrick's Day.
There's many things

SPEAKER_05 (18:41):
that I'm interested in.
Letterboxd average of thismovie, 3.7.
You can follow us on Letterboxd.
I'm at RunBMC.
Paul is at PaulXBadly.
And Chris, your on Letterboxd, Ibelieve.

SPEAKER_04 (18:53):
Yeah, I'm on there.
Yeah.
I think it's just C.
Morrison is my Letterboxd.
I just got into that recentlythis year because of

SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
you guys.
Oh, nice.
I'm really kind of enjoying itand kind of starting to slowly
keep track of things that I'mwatching and

SPEAKER_04 (19:09):
trying to stay on it a bit more to help me kind of
articulate different shows andmovies and be able to write
about them.
So thank you.
I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_05 (19:19):
Oh, this is some true Bort religion talk.
I love it.
I love this.
This is great.
This is making my day.
That's so great to hear.
Where else can people followyou, Chris, if you'd like them
to follow you?

SPEAKER_04 (19:29):
Yeah, my Instagram is Christopher underscore
Morrison.
Same thing on TikTok,Christopher underscore Morrison,
M-O-R-S-O-N, in case you werewondering.
It's not like Jim.

SPEAKER_05 (19:42):
Great.
Give them a follow.
Back to speed, Siskel and Ebert,two very enthusiastic...
Back to speed, Siskel and Ebert,two very enthusiastic I'm going
to ask real quick about theRotten Tomatoes thing.

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Yeah.
Is that some sort of key effectin terms of the popcorn meter.
Yeah.
Cause I feel like it's likeaudiences watch point break or
they watch this, but they watchthings that he's in and his
affectation or his accent.
People are like, no, this guycan't act.
And it's like, I personallythink that.

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So I think that exists.
And I think it's so wrong.
I know I talked about this onpoint break and I don't think
it's like wrong.
Like it's evil wrong, but it'sa, I think he's a pretty fucking
good actor.
I think it, it puts him in a bitof a box.
And I think maybe some peoplemaybe rubs people the wrong way.
I could see this, you know, alsofeeling a little, um, for some

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people, you know, die hard on abus, you know, maybe not as that
original, I suppose.
Yeah.
I don't know what that popcornmeter is about.
Also the popcorn meter for thismovie obviously didn't exist or
even rotten tomatoes didn'texist.
I don't think

SPEAKER_04 (21:15):
at that time.

SPEAKER_05 (21:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So those are late bloomers.
I think that Johnny Utah, uh,and Jack Traven and Mr.
Anderson.
These are all differentcharacters.
They're all pretty iconiccharacters.
Oh, for sure.
Bill and Ted.
There are so many different...
John Wick.

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Love you, Keanu.
Director, Jan de Bont.
He directed The Haunting from1999, Lara Croft, Cradle of
Life, and Speed 2, CruiseControl?
It's a different movie.
It's not a sequel to this.
It's a It's an entirelydifferent movie.
Is that...
What?
Actor, recognizable, celebratedactor, Willem Dafoe?

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It is.
Yeah.
Whoa! There's many things thatare interesting.
I thought that was somethingelse.
Writer, Graham Yost, BrokenArrow, Hard Rain, and The Last
Castle.
Director of photography wasAndre Bartowiak.
Species, B.
David Caruso in Jade.
U.S.
Marshals.

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Music...
Mark Mancina, Shooter, CryMacho, Moana 2.
Gross.
I fucking love the music in thismovie.
Oh, yeah.
I think it's so great.
It feels like Basil Polidorus,Robocop, or Brad Fidel, who did
Terminator 2.

SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
Do we want to maybe mention the secret underground
writer that isn't really talkedabout that often for this movie?

SPEAKER_04 (22:50):
Supposedly, Josh...
Sweden kind of rewrote a lot ofthe dialogue and characters for
especially Jack and a bit ofAndy.
Oh,

SPEAKER_05 (23:01):
really?
Yeah.
That's my understanding as well.
He has done a lot of scriptdoctoring in his day and this
apparently is one of them.

SPEAKER_04 (23:10):
And they were trying, like there was some
stuff I was, I saw that and itkind of went down a rabbit hole
where they were trying to gethim credited and it wasn't,

SPEAKER_02 (23:18):
the studio wouldn't allow it or something.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (23:22):
Interesting.
I couldn't really find out.
Unions, it's a percentage in howmuch of the story.
Oh, right.
There's so many things.
Yeah.
Producers on this film, well,it's Mark Gordon saving Private
Ryan, Molly's game, and SourceCode.
This movie stars Buss.

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What did you say?
Did you say bus?
Bus.
You just said bus.
Keanu Reeves as JackConstantine.
Bus as bus.
In...
Speed.
Bus.
Utah.
Give me two.
Keanu Reeves as JackConstantine, the devil's
advocate.
Point Break.

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The Point Break episode.
It's great.
Listen to it, yeah.
Dennis Hopper, RIP, as Howard.
Waterworld, Easy Rider, andSuper Mario Bros.
Listen to our Waterworld andSuper Mario Bros.
episodes.
Please, go back.
Sandy?
Sandy?

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Sandy.
Who has a new collar.
Little Hello Kitty collar.
I have to say my heart throbsfor Sandra Bullock in this
movie.
Yeah.
Sandra Bullock as Annie, MissCongeniality, Murder by Numbers,
Demolition Man.

SPEAKER_04 (24:42):
You want to date me?
You want to love me?

SPEAKER_05 (24:49):
Yeah, no, that was good.
Joe Morton as McMahon Terminatortwo judgment day.
Another movie where, I mean, inthat one, he's holding the
remote operated bomb.

SPEAKER_03 (25:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (25:02):
Brother from another planet and stealth.
Jeff Daniels was Harryarachnophobia, something wild
and Escanaba into moonlight.
Alan Ruck, Stevens, Star TrekGenerations, Ferris Bueller's
Day Off, and Twister, but notTwisters.

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But listen to our Twisterepisode.
Also, I love Alan Ruck.
And follow it up with Twisters.
We got them both, baby.
We got both.
Because there's two of those forcertain.
Twister dollar sign.
This one, are you sure?
The next one or this one shouldhave been called Speed dollar
sign.
Speeds.

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Just with two buses! Did theynot understand the fucking
white, hot laser of stardom thatthis bus was on?
Fucking shit! This bus burnt hotand fast.
It went out with a bang.
The poster of this movie, one ofthem, is just the bus surrounded

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by a wall of flame and just thenose of the bus is exposed.
One of the great posters of alltime.
Wonderful poster.

SPEAKER_04 (26:13):
love it

SPEAKER_05 (26:14):
love it glenn plumber jaguar guy why didn't
they just call him tune man

SPEAKER_04 (26:19):
yeah

SPEAKER_05 (26:21):
just credit him as tune man south central strange
days show girls richard linebacknorwood natural born killers the
ring ready to rumble beth grantas helen donnie darko i am
doubting y'all's commitment tosparkle motion by the way which

(26:42):
is very disappointing pointingas this episode is brought to us
by Sparkle Motion.
No Country for Old Men andLittle Miss Sunshine.
Hawthorne James with Sam, Seven,Se, Seven, and Beyond Suspicion
and Amistad.
Look forward to our sevenepisode coming soon.
Chris, you have some facts forus that are a little more fun

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that are going to speed usforward.
I do.
I do have some fun facts.

SPEAKER_03 (27:11):
Fun facts, fun facts, fun facts.
So

SPEAKER_02 (27:16):
the moments when Annie takes the chewing gum out
of her mouth and

SPEAKER_04 (27:20):
pretends to put it on her seat in order to change
seats and move away from Stevenswas improvised by Sandra

SPEAKER_05 (27:29):
Bullock.
I have gum on my seat.
Charming, delightful andcharming.
Gum.
So great.
And in the second, I mean, inthis

SPEAKER_02 (27:37):
last watch, I saw that moment and I was like,

SPEAKER_04 (27:38):
wow, that was a good, that's a good little
tactic.
So great.
That's great.
It's good.
The bus jump scene was donetwice as the bus landed too
smoothly on the first time.
The bridge was actually there,but erased digitally.

SPEAKER_05 (27:56):
Same with the ramp, I think.
I mean, that thing is flying.
They couldn't have put some sortof fake, just a couple of boards
stacked to make it look...
It goes from completelyhorizontal

SPEAKER_04 (28:10):
to

SPEAKER_05 (28:10):
just diagonal.
Yo, whatever.
when I ride a city bus I ammoving I'm already shaking and
kind of bouncing around when ittakes turns in that if you look
at the characters on the buswhen that thing lands they're
just like oh they would probablylike be freaking slammed against
the wall shitting and pissingeverywhere throwing up just like

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I mean just like plummetedforward there's no seatbelts you
know there's no way to like besafe in there we don't when they
go when they're like 50 feet iliterally just started laughing
out loud so hard i would love tosee the the re-ended version of
this where it's like we're gonnajump it we're gonna jump it and

(28:58):
the bus is just fucking straightdown or just hits the yeah just
flips everybody falls out what'sthat literal youtube channel
that does literal trailers orliteral movie pit Bitches.
Yeah.
Them telling the chief, like,we're going to jump it.

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They were like, no, don't dothat.

SPEAKER_04 (29:21):
Don't do that.
Explode.
Explode instead.
I

SPEAKER_05 (29:25):
like at no point to like when there's an elevator
involved or, or this in case abus at no point, are there
engineers?
Are they talking to like,there's, they're never talking
to like anyone.
Just what?
What knows everything?
Apparently.
LAPD.
LAPD.
Which, is also SWAT divisiontheir code name in Los Angeles

(29:47):
is Sparkle Motion Los AngelesSparkle Motion division SWAT
wait are you serious what isSparkle Motion it's from it's
from Donnie Darko Donnie'sLittle Sisters in a dance troupe
called Sparkle Motion and BethGrant is the over protective

SPEAKER_03 (30:09):
mom who starts crying and is like I doubt your
commitment to sparkle motion.

SPEAKER_04 (30:16):
So go back to

SPEAKER_05 (30:17):
the club.
I'm glad you filled us in onthat crazy deep cut.

SPEAKER_04 (30:21):
I was just going to keep going with it.

SPEAKER_05 (30:23):
Oh yeah.
We're brought to the people bysparkle motion.
Yeah.
We all know that.
All right.
Continuing with the fun factsguys.
Number, number three, I guess.
All right.

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10 buses, a total of 10 buses were used in the making
of the film.
Several, with completely glassfronts.
Each one had two steeringwheels, one for Sandra Bullock
and the other for the stuntdriver, which was more often
than not mounted

SPEAKER_02 (30:56):
on the roof of the bus, obviously, to not be in the
shot.

SPEAKER_05 (30:58):
I was wondering, though, because sometimes in
those wide shots, is it justlike a stunt driver in a Sandra
Bullock wig?
Because I was wondering wherethe stunt driver might have
been.
On the roof.
Or she's doing it.
They might have just edited thedriver out in the, you can cut

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this, but every time you saySandra Bullock, I have to
refrain from going.
She's just so...
You

SPEAKER_04 (31:30):
wanna love me.
We

SPEAKER_05 (31:34):
love a Sandy.

SPEAKER_04 (31:35):
Quentin Tarantino was offered the chance to
direct, but turned it down.
Tarantino has since been quotedseveral times that this film is
one of his 20 favorite filmssince 1992.

SPEAKER_05 (31:47):
Huh.
Different movie.
Loves this movie, apparently.
Yeah, but Tarantino's speed?
I don't know.
Oh, yeah, that for sure.
No.
know there's there's a lightnessto this movie there's something
that feels dare i sayspielbergian to it or something
that this movie has to have thati don't know if it has it's a
playful yeah it's got a playfuladventure but it does a great

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job of sort of like diving intothe really severe situation on
top of it people fucking dieyeah

SPEAKER_04 (32:21):
john de bont insisted that keanu reeves get a
sensible haircut as would befita horror Hair rules.
Hair is great.
I like the

SPEAKER_05 (32:37):
buzz cut.
I like the buzz cut.
I just love this sensiblehaircut.
I imagine Jan de Bont's talkingto him like, you don't go out
like that on a weekday, do you,sir?
Get a haircut.
The hippie's lost.
The

SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
hippie's totally

SPEAKER_05 (32:55):
lost, Keanu.
you can pass your own hair youdon't even have to I will come
and pass your hair is he German?
he's Dutch

SPEAKER_04 (33:06):
do a Dutch

SPEAKER_05 (33:08):
maybe try a Dutch one maybe do that I just think
the buzz cut really works withthe character and he seems like
kind of a dude who probably gotthrough high school with okay
grades is probably fromCalifornia and kind of just
became a cop he seems like aneighborhood guy seems like a

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totally regular dude but alsolike surfs or like plays pick up
basketball and goes camping andhe just happens to have this
affectation

SPEAKER_04 (33:39):
before supposed Joss's

SPEAKER_02 (33:42):
edits he was originally that character was
like super cocky and like like asuper cocky kind of like
assholey cop and then when Josscame in he kind of made him

SPEAKER_04 (33:52):
more

SPEAKER_02 (33:53):
like

SPEAKER_04 (33:54):
grounded and natural I think goes well with Keanu for
that type of

SPEAKER_02 (34:01):
role even headed

SPEAKER_05 (34:03):
I agree I don't know what all the rewrites were or
the approach was from Jan deBont or Keanu or Sandra Bullock
or how this stew was made thatis Jack Travin but I like the
character I think he comes offless presumptuous than he does
just really fucking brave andkind of reckless about his value

(34:24):
like he he he He doesn'tunderstand that it's like, no,
you not valuing yourself alsocan put other people in danger.
But there is a charm to it.

SPEAKER_04 (34:34):
Yeah.
All right, I got

SPEAKER_02 (34:37):
one more fact, boys, and we can continue on.

SPEAKER_05 (34:39):
I'll tell you this for

SPEAKER_02 (34:40):
free.
The I-105 had recently beencompleted, but not opened at the
time of production.
The filmmakers were given allthe

SPEAKER_04 (34:49):
time they needed to complete the freeway scenes, but
without the hassle of closingdown or operating a major
freeway, which is...
Is

SPEAKER_05 (34:58):
that ever happened again?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
Filming history?
Watching it, I was wondering ifthey had to use the same couple
miles of freeway and just keeplooping.
Right, or build it like theMatrix.
Yeah, I figured they didn't dothat.
Right, sure.
I was just curious, but that'samazing that they got access to

(35:20):
that because can you do thismovie if you don't?
No.
Or you do it in Australia orSouth Africa?
Africa or something.
Yeah.
I just can't believe the budgetof this movie.
Cause now this is probably whata hundred,$110 million movie.
And it goes straight tostreaming or something like
that.
Maybe.
I don't know, but Christopher.

(35:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (35:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (35:44):
That's me.
I'm Christopher.
You chose this film, this filmspeed.
If you were to give me foursentences to pitch me the head
of Fox, this movie is that anelevator is plummeting toward
the basement.
You have to tell me three, foursentences to pitch me this

(36:07):
movie.
Give me the log line.
It can be two sentences.
Okay.
Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_04 (36:14):
Okay.
There's a bus with a bomb on itthat can't go under 50.
Okay.
Or it explodes.
So you have to figure out a wayto defuse the bomb and save
everybody on it as it plummetsthrough

SPEAKER_05 (36:32):
L.A.
That's so good.
There are some things that areflipped or names left out, and
those are very specific things.
But to summarize, I thought thatwas really great.
I can give that another try.
No, that was so good.
I can't logline this movie.
You just broke it down in such away.
I can give you a premise.

(36:52):
Imagine you had to go fast bycar in Los Angeles, 50 miles an
hour, or you explode.
I guess.
Your logline is pretty fuckingclose.
A deranged bomb expert, HowardPayne, rigs a city bus with a
bomb that will explode if itdrops below 50 miles per hour.

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It's up to officer Jack Travenand passenger Annie Porter to
work together to keep the busmoving to save everyone on
board.
Christopher, you removed theunnecessary information of the
characters' names.
You just made it even moresuccinct.
You sped it up.

(37:35):
That was impressive.
Right to the point.
I do not doubt your commitmentto Sparkle Motion.
Not for a fucking second.
You are dedicated.
I'm

SPEAKER_04 (37:46):
gonna run it one day.

SPEAKER_05 (37:47):
You're gonna run Sparkle Motion?

SPEAKER_04 (37:51):
Sometimes I

SPEAKER_05 (37:52):
doubt it.
your hat is Sparkle Motion.
You can't run Sparkle Motion.
Sparkle Motion runs you.
Everyone, we're going to comeback and talk more about speed
with Christopher Morrison afterthis.

(38:16):
Did you see that bus ad thatsaid Sparkle Motion?
Why wasn't there a SparkleMotion truck in our last movie?
These crazy fucking vehicles,man.
We're doing a lot of, it'svehicle, vehicle, vehicular
manslaughter.
Summer.

(38:36):
It's a vehicular manslaughtersummer.
So terrible.
But only the tail end of thesummer.
The beginning of the summer wasour 70s, sweaty 70s summer.
Somehow, our last one had to dowith trucks.
And this one has to do with bus.
Death and trucks.
This one's death and bus.
And robots.
Christopher Morrison.

(38:58):
Do you want to play a game ofCinephile?
I'm just going to flip this deckand you tell me when to stop.
I will show the card to thecamera and then just read what's
on the card.
Read the name of the actor andread the movie.
And then Paul will go and thenname a movie that actor's in.
I will name a movie, you willname a movie.
And then whoever doesn't succeedat the first, we'll just talk

(39:20):
about their first viewing of themovie, Sped.
Spitted.
Spedometer.

SPEAKER_04 (39:27):
I will say I'm not sure how good I'm going to be at
this, but I will give it mybest.

SPEAKER_05 (39:31):
Do not worry, my friend.
There have been people that havecome up who I'm like, I know who
that is.
In Holland, it's called cock.
Was that your Dutch?

SPEAKER_03 (39:41):
I'm trying!

SPEAKER_05 (39:43):
He went to the bathroom and pulled up his Dutch
dial accent.
I have to go back and try

SPEAKER_03 (39:48):
it.
Duolingo playback, playback.
He's calling cock.

SPEAKER_05 (39:54):
Oh my god.
You let me know when to stop,okay?
Alright.
Stop.

SPEAKER_02 (40:04):
Okay.
Okay, great.
Jodie Foster, Taxi Driver.

SPEAKER_05 (40:09):
The Accused.
Silence of the Lambs.
Avatar?
The Brave One.
I don't believe she's an avatar.
You got to look it up then.
I don't think she is.
She's not.
Are you thinking of SigourneyWeaver?

(40:29):
Yep.
Okay.
Well, Christopher.
I was going to say contact.
Can we redo that?
That's horrible.
That was so embarrassing.
I'm sweating.
I don't like this.
We've all done what you justdid.
Trust me.
Yeah, I've done it.
I've definitely done it.
Paul's done it.
Well, I panic because I waslike, wait, am I supposed to

(40:51):
say...
Oh, okay.
You're all good.
It happens to literallyeverybody.
All of us.
Everybody.
Yeah, what's your firstexperience with the movie?
Speed.
And you're rating it out of 5 inyour most recent experience.

SPEAKER_04 (41:05):
Wait, I have to go first?

SPEAKER_05 (41:07):
Yeah, that's what happens when you...
I lost?
Oh, Jesus.
It's your punishment.
We really take care of ourguests here.

SPEAKER_04 (41:17):
When this movie came out, I would three.
I remember this movie

SPEAKER_02 (41:25):
actually instilled a fear, a childhood fear in me
that I later on realized wasthat I had a huge fear of
elevators because of this movie,because of the first scene of
this movie, because I saw itwhen I was so young.
So it was sometime in my

SPEAKER_04 (41:45):
young childhood.
I think I watched this rated Rmovie with my parents, and I
remember that that lady's facein the back of the elevator just
like shaking her head like

SPEAKER_05 (41:58):
no i can't he's just like every little tiny
performance is so great it is itis and that that ladies i
remember in the washroom again iwas

SPEAKER_02 (42:09):
like oh this this lady's this lady's face i'm
gonna see it and i'm just gonnafeel gross and i saw it and i
felt gross and i realized anywaythat was my i'm like this

SPEAKER_05 (42:18):
fucking lady this lady take the fucking step get
off yo fucking ladies

SPEAKER_04 (42:25):
talk about this movie just building tension from
the very beginning love it sothat was like my first kind of
experience with this movie Ithink was early early under I
was probably around under 10years old watching this with my
parents maybe you

SPEAKER_05 (42:38):
couldn't even give it a score like not even

SPEAKER_04 (42:41):
sure I was

SPEAKER_02 (42:42):
like I would say that moment I would say if I
don't even I would want to giveit a Keanu or two but I don't
even know I didn't even know youwere too

SPEAKER_05 (42:50):
scared very low just scaring your thing Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 (42:53):
Okay.
Scared, but I definitely thoughtSandra Bullock was pretty.

SPEAKER_05 (42:59):
Oh yeah.
Woods are full of trees, pal.
So that was the, that wasprobably my first, I mean, I
probably saw this before pointbreak.
I would think, you know.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Me too.
Did you watch this again todayor yesterday?
I watched

SPEAKER_04 (43:17):
it day before yesterday.

SPEAKER_05 (43:18):
And what are your feelings about it now?

SPEAKER_04 (43:22):
I want to give it, a good four Keanos

SPEAKER_05 (43:26):
out of

SPEAKER_04 (43:27):
five.

SPEAKER_05 (43:28):
That's a big turnaround.

SPEAKER_04 (43:30):
I know.
And I think it's because I thinkit was the movie that really dug
his foot deep into being aleading action star person.
I agree.
Point Break kind of gave himthat, and this was the one that
was like, I'm going to be hereforever.

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And he is still here todaymaking amazing action movies.
On this movie, from the verybeginning, he did 90% of his
stunts on this movie.
I'm like, man, you've been thatguy since day one and have been
doing it since.
On that world of rating, I'm abig Keanu fan.

(44:14):
I also think this movie of juststructure and simplicity, but
every moment is just...
packed but like i i just love idon't know if just the early 90s
stuff of just the cheesiness ofthese one-liners

SPEAKER_02 (44:37):
you're not so tough with that moments are you

SPEAKER_04 (44:40):
in the movie itself that just make you laugh but
almost laugh

SPEAKER_05 (44:44):
me yeah oh darn

SPEAKER_03 (44:48):
i yeah oh darn

SPEAKER_05 (44:50):
oh are you in are you insured yeah i'm hearing my
i'm gonna take this phone takethe phone that guy is great, you
know?
Alan Ruck is a BYU professor ona solo vacation or whatever the
backstory he came up with.
The airport.
I've already seen the airport.
I've already seen the airport.
He's so self-absorbed.

(45:12):
It's so great.
He's like Ferris Bueller, but 20years later and alone.
Because everybody hates him.
The fact that you get this asthe 6th or 7th build person, and
every performance in this movie,it's all great.
It's all so fun.
And the music just...

SPEAKER_04 (45:31):
Oh, my God.
It's just...

SPEAKER_05 (45:35):
Adrenaline.
I saw this way too young aswell.
I must have been also, but onlythree.
Three, three, three, three,three, three, three, three,
three, three, three, three, andthen put a multiplier between
all of them.
But I saw this at a babysitter'shouse.
They had rented it.
I just got sat down, just like Idid with Wes Craven's New
Nightmare.
They hit the play button andwalked away.

(45:57):
And...
easy peasy I was mesmerized bythis movie I was also Chris a
little bit scared of this moviebut I had the best fucking time
and begged my dad to rent thismovie at whatever point it got
purchased on VHS I've owned iton DVD and I just loved it the

(46:23):
first time clearly I would havegiven it you know five buses I
maybe have seen this movie asmuch or more than any other
movie.
I know I've said that on thispodcast, but you're going to
hear me say that several timesmoving forward as well.
I watched this movie today.
It's very easy to do.
Yes.
I have

SPEAKER_03 (46:43):
speed on 4K.

SPEAKER_05 (46:46):
Look at that big, beautiful bus.

SPEAKER_03 (46:49):
That's the only time that that should all

SPEAKER_05 (46:52):
get.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, 25, 25.
It's so great in the hometheater experience.
The audio is so full.
You can tell everybody gave ashit.
The music is fucking incredible.
It has that great kind of ironclanging kind of thing.
It immediately takes me into theworld.

(47:15):
I had the best time.
The thing for this movie withme, the last couple views, it
loses a.5.
It's four and a half goldwatches for me.
You took my fucking ratingssystem yes because i knew i knew
that you would anticipate that ilove that he leaves a clue

(47:37):
because you know i love to leavea clue yes this is the bonus for
me chris

SPEAKER_03 (47:44):
i went second

SPEAKER_05 (47:46):
are you the yes are you the hopper to my kiani are
you always oh i hope oh are youtalking on the phone with only
your right hand oh i want Iwanted to talk about that.
So good.
Well, what's funny is that hisleft hand's all fucked up.
He's missing a thumb.
I know.
But he could use this.

(48:07):
He could

SPEAKER_03 (48:07):
talk on this part.
I know, but it looks cooler theother way.
He could do this.
It's more interesting.
He could do this.

SPEAKER_05 (48:13):
Shush, both of you.
For the listeners who are notlooking, I'm holding the phone
to my right

SPEAKER_06 (48:19):
ear

SPEAKER_05 (48:20):
with my right hand.
And what we're talking about ishe holds the phone with his
right hand to his opposite ear.
His neck hurts.
It's strange.
It's dynamic.
His neck is hurting because he'smaking a lot of shots.
Hold on.
I got to talk about myexperience so we can get to the
movie.
Four and a half gold watches.
We'll go into why.

(48:41):
This was a VHS that we owned andI watched it frequently a lot.
I watched it a lot.
Frequently a lot, sure.
Yeah.
Regularly?
You know, I was only, but I'mgoing to tell you my actual age.
I was, I know, wild.
I was eight when this came out.
Who are you accusing?
Choosing of what?

(49:01):
Uh, careful, careful, careful.
I was like, so I really got inthis movie.
I feel like around like 10, nineor 10.
And it just became a regularrotation.
And I would have given it fiveback then in reviewing this
movie.
I hadn't watched it in a while,but I still feel like for early

(49:22):
nineties, for me, this is sortof the definitive action movie.
What's funny is I, whilewatching it, seeing it and
talking to Jess I was like Keanukind of is a stalwart of the
genre for the 90s because notonly is this to me like the kind
of the epitome of the actionmovie for the 90s but then
Matrix is sort of the entrypoint into the 2000s of action

(49:48):
and kind of like changes thegame this is they truly don't
make movies like this anymorePaul you've already brought up
so much about all of thecharacter actors they've filled
the world out with and Eachperson is given so much to do
and like nobody is forgotten.
And it's everybody gets so muchtreated so well in the
filmmaking itself, close ups andgiving them time to like react

(50:13):
to the situation.
It's really quite stunning towatch.
So for me, changing my I guessI'll change my rating system
since I can't use gold watches.
I didn't I didn't retire fromthe police force, so I can't use
that.
Paul did.
That's correct.
So I still have this mustache.

SPEAKER_04 (50:34):
I was wondering.

SPEAKER_05 (50:35):
So this is, I mean, I still have issues with a lot
of the physics and some of thatshit, but

SPEAKER_01 (50:40):
I'm

SPEAKER_05 (50:41):
going to go with, I'm going to go with four
bullets in your buddy's legs.
Cause you got it.
Four shot buddies.
Four shot buddies.
Cause you got to shoot thehostage.
Do people feel from Ted TheodoreLogan on, If it's an adventure
action movie, that's like astudio vehicle, be it Orion or

(51:05):
Fox or Lionsgate or WarnerBrothers.
If Keanu Reeves is starring,that's probably a good studio
action movie.
I'm interested in that.
Yes.
100%.
We all agree.
Okay.
Everyone, it's time.
Yeah.
444.5.
Start the movie.
Start the

SPEAKER_06 (51:25):
movie! Start the movie! And

SPEAKER_01 (51:33):
now, our feature presentation.

SPEAKER_05 (51:38):
Every time I got into an elevator after this
point of seeing this with my dador my brother, one of us would
always say, thanks for pressingthat button, Bob.
I love that.
Just as a joke to this day, westill say it.
It's a really fun thing thatfeels really useful that feels
like it's echoed later formultiple reasons.

(51:59):
But even in this moment in theelevator shaft, I remember first
time I watched this movie, I waslike, where am I?
What's happening?
Did you say big shaft?
Shut your mouth.
I'm talking about shaft.
That's a good movie.
He's a bad mother.
You can dig it.
Yeah.
So, but the elevator shaft andthe big block letters with the

(52:20):
drop shadows and the score justboom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,boom, boom, boom.
The camera move in the elevatorshaft, you feel all the
craftsmanship of this movie.
And we talked about some of thedigital wipes and things that
were done.
It seemed like those were usedreally sparingly.
And I appreciate that when yougo through the stunt list and

(52:42):
the people that worked on thismovie, it's like the all star of
all star list.
It's like hall of famers up anddown.
I also think like they justimmediately get us into the
world of this movie with thiselevator of people.
Then they get making us feel forthese people quickly.
And with like small characterthings, that's going to be a big

(53:03):
part of this movie is giving usthese groups of people who are
in peril.
And they're just like, normaleveryday people but they do such
a good job in the script and inthe filmmaking and the
performances really like make uscare about this group in the
elevator

SPEAKER_04 (53:17):
yeah the secretary like whispering into the the
older gentleman's ear when theyget into the elevator you're
just like what's going on thereyeah you know you're already
like you're already kind of likewondering

SPEAKER_05 (53:30):
yeah there's nuance already yeah yeah that's i agree
ben you make such a good pointabout there's such a great
craftsmanship also to the waythat the camera tells the story
and just the nuance of littletiny performance things i even
like we were talking about thethe level of peril you give a

(53:50):
shit about everybody immediatelythey like everybody feels
basically relatable and you seehow ruthless dennis hopper is
fucking immediately like hestaples that guy in the fucking
head doesn't even think about itit is ruth the edit is
incredible the editing in theelevator where the woman who

(54:10):
doesn't want to get out and thethe last person who dude tries
to get her to get out the guywho gives Bob a hard time and
seems like kind of a shit triesto be like valiant and get
everybody off and she won't moveand then he's finally like fuck
it I do love so again I do lovethat they've just sent SWAT here
and not engineers you know likethe build the people who built

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the building bring in peoplethat like had bloop like these
guys show up

SPEAKER_02 (54:36):
I gotta mention about

SPEAKER_04 (54:37):
the SWAT guys, I was noticing their costumes and
their outfits and these jacketthings that they have, their ear
pieces with their little neckcollars.
Did you guys, those were stoodout to me so much.
Cause I'm like, what, what isthis little neck collar?
And they have it throughout thewhole movie for the, for these
guys.
And it's like their, it's theirlike radio system, but it makes

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them look so

SPEAKER_05 (55:01):
cool.
They do look cool.
I'm like, but what is it for?
It's a, it's a sparkle motion,uh, bone amplifier.
They're also very effective.
I just love that.
They're like, Oh, we need tomake sure we can strap something
to this elevator.
So it doesn't fall.
Should we talk to someone whoknows more about this than we

(55:21):
do?
Nope.
No, let's go to the roof.
We're just, we're going to go.
They used to wash windows.
I do love when they show upthough, when they show up, that
car is flying.
They introduce, they introduceJack as like the, this guy fucks
immediately.

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Like he is super fuckingreckless.

SPEAKER_04 (55:43):
Yeah.
I wrote this down.
It's the tension betweeninstinct and protocol.
Yeah.
So like what you should be doingin this moment versus Jack being
like, follow me to the

SPEAKER_01 (55:56):
roof.

SPEAKER_04 (55:57):
We gotta, we gotta save the yellow.
Like it's just his naturalinstinct in these moments.

SPEAKER_05 (56:03):
Paul, I was thinking of last action hero when that
car comes up, like, causethere's parts of the There's
parts of this movie that feellike outlandish in the action
and in the way that it operates.
And like, again, they just shovea fucking cable through a vent
and

SPEAKER_02 (56:20):
a

SPEAKER_05 (56:22):
conveniently fisheye side, like the perfect size loop
on the top of the elevator.
I kind of miss some of thesethings in movies that are kind
of like, Hey movie, just letmovie happen.
We've talked about this a littlebit.
I had some good stuff.
All guy had some of that.
I agree.
And I miss some of that whereit's like, just suspend

(56:43):
disbelief a little bit, justlike, let yourself be
entertained.
And the edits in this portionare so clean.
And Ben, you were talking aboutthe writing too.
I think Chris, you were alsothe, the gold watch
foreshadowing where they'rehaving a conversation and
fucking Keanu just is like,cool.
And the cable car buys them thistime.

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And they get everybodyevacuated.
And again, the, the save of thelady and the edit of what looks
like a practical effect of likethat lady almost looked like she
lost a fucking leg.
Like it's all so good.
I mean, they're like, Jack islike helping people off his
elevator.
And at any moment he could justget fucking smashed, sliced in
half.

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It's such a good way to set upthat Jack, everything Jack
accomplishes is essentially byluck.
And he never seems to realizethat.
Instinct.
Instinct.
Yeah.
Or instinct.
Exactly.
I mean, they call it luck in themovie, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (57:45):
Right after that, they're sitting on that bench.

SPEAKER_04 (57:48):
It's done.
And just, he's just like chewinghis gum and there's like sitting
on that bench.
And then he's all of a suddenhe's like, he's got to be there
to talk.
He's got to be here.
He's, he knows.

SPEAKER_05 (58:00):
It's like, it's like he's a profiler and a
negotiator.
Like, that's the funny thingabout this movie is, I mean, I'm
jumping ahead here, but likewhen he gets off the bus and
They need to get the bomb outfrom underneath the bus.
They don't go to some guy whohasn't been on a bus for the
last four hours.
They go to him.
He's the one who's going to doit.
It seems like the SWAT group isjust like Jeff Daniels, the

(58:23):
chief, that one dude with themustache who drives the fucking
thing, and Jack.
I like that it's a thing theykind of try to establish early
in the movie that Jackapparently just volunteers for
everything before anybody elsebecause he's just willing to to
die at like any point.
By the way, and I love that Jackshoots the hostage, but does

(58:45):
anybody, do people agree thatHarry told him to?
Harry told him to, though hewould be fired and like, you
know, the amount of paperwork,the legal ramifications of being
like, wait, hold on a second,you shot him?
He's like, yeah, but you gottaunderstand, like, he had a guy,
he had a bomb.

(59:05):
He had a bomb on him.
They cooked that up, like, theyhad to cook up a story to make
sure jack didn't go to likeprison or something yeah but he
gets celebrated they get like ayeah it is important that we
think that dennis hopper is deadand how he survived never really
said but you know yeah he tookit off and threw the

SPEAKER_04 (59:26):
bomb at the door and then ran away and exploded

SPEAKER_05 (59:29):
it how big was that bomb or he had a bomb in a trash
can or like with a car that waspointed toward the door they
they billed him as such anexpert late that That's the
thing is, I know I do this allthe time, but I'm so willing to
just like, I want this movie tokeep going.
And so I'm just not that worriedabout asking myself those

(59:50):
questions.
I do have a question though.
When the news reports, the onlylife the bomber took was his
own.
Oh, so the fucking socialsecurity, the security guard
that got his fucking headstapled is not any, who cares?
Also, did they not find him?
That's what he signed upForbesy.
Did they not find any remainsof, you know, did he get dark

(01:00:13):
manned out of that explosion?
What a funny guy.
Yeah, I

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:16):
guess.
No remains.
No,

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:18):
just keep

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:18):
going.
Movie.
You got to keep the movie going.
Speed.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:20):
I agree.
But yeah, that security guard,fuck him.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:23):
Who cares?

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:24):
We're not

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:25):
even going to include him.
I will say he delivered a goodconvincing performance of like,
hey, what are you doing here?
Like, you're not supposed to behere.
I could

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:32):
book that, guys.
You could book that part.
Guys, I think I could book that.
Yeah.
I do love the party for them atthe bar.
I love Jeff Daniels.
I'm going to go home and havesome sex.
Harry, you're going to go homeand vomit.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:46):
Yeah.
See,

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:49):
so many good

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:50):
lines.
This movie is just filled.
Every scene has just a line.
Don't get dead.
It's

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:58):
such a weird way to say it, but I

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:00):
love it.
I think that if this movie had at-shirt, it would be don't get
dead.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:05):
That's a good t-shirt.
Also, how is Harry not in awheelchair like he got shot in
the fucking

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:12):
thigh inner thigh he should

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:14):
have a broken leg

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:15):
in that one scene he does give a little bit of a
hobble out of the station he hasa cane that switches hands oh he
does this

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:22):
right see when you look at it here it's right wrong
right wrong sorry I'm playingnow either way sorry he does
switch hands though with thecane which I find interesting it
distracted me yeah there'ssomething I just don't
understand but But the lineeven, guts will get you so far
and then they'll get you killed.
And Jack's like, nah.

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But also, we're like 25, 30minutes to the movie and there's
been no bus.
Right.
We got to meet the bus.
I mean, at first we meet a bus,but that bus doesn't last very
long.
It's a beautiful morning inSanta Monica.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:56):
He's getting coffee.
We think it's done, right?
He's getting coffee at his localcoffee shop.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:01):
I mean, it feels like also maybe you want to go
to Santa Monica and get like acoffee and hang out on the
beach.
Me too.
Watching this.
for me.
Yeah, me too.
This looks fun.
I can remember watching thisfirst time and be like, where
are we going?
Dennis Hopper's dead?
What's happening now?

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When he shows back up, the wayhe shows back up with a person
that we meet for a moment has anice moment with Keanu.
Good performance by that busdriver.
Good performance.
We see Jack's off and Bronco.
And then we see a car towing thebus that's exploding.
Whoopsie.

(01:02:45):
You can see the wire.
Oh, I missed that.
Why not digitally remove that?
Weren't you the one that justsaid you're not going to be
asking questions or pullingthreads?
I did not see that.
I would rather pulling threads.
I would rather that than I don'tknow, but it could be digitally
easily removed.
And that's part of why we're at4.5 instead of 5 some of these

(01:03:09):
things it's like wait you thisis so well editing

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:12):
editing so well

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:14):
edited edited but like why what was the choice
there i don't understand thatwell chris didn't

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:21):
see it i didn't see

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:22):
it i

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:23):
was i was i was distracted by the bus driver
because i was like that was thethat's that dirty detective from
ace ventura

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:31):
oh yeah

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:31):
that's

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:31):
right

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:32):
i do like keanu's performance when he looks in the
bus and you can tell he seeslike just a burning corpse.
Yeah.
And he's like, Oh, his response.
Like, yeah.
And I think again, it's such agood Jack values life in a way
that I think is like, he valuesthe life of anybody, everybody
and anybody, just not his own,not his own, but he does value

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everyone else.
And so like, you can tell likehis initial instinct here is
great.
He just runs straight towardswhere he can maybe get the bus
driver out of there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:06):
Even though it's like, clearly he's, probably
burn to a crisp but um but yeahyou know it's a great character
trait and it's different fromeveryone else it's different
from neo it's different fromjohn wick it you know it's
different it's different fromjohnny utah it is and i think um
but the the uh the phone phonebooth ringing you know and the

(01:04:29):
introduction of

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:31):
i love that movie too phone booth

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:34):
good movie the new threat right the the true
Spoilers, it's on a bus.
He comes up with this plan.
He had to have had this backupplan, I guess, but it's a solid
fucking plan, but it's the bigintroduction after this.
Does anybody else find the phonecall really effective?

(01:04:54):
The, hey, hot shot, pop quiz.
Pop quiz, hot shot.
What do you do?
It's all...
And Hopper is good.
And you can tell that it'spersonal now, because he's
like...
Taking shit that he heard,because he heard everything they
said in that elevator.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:11):
They did.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:12):
Yes.
So he's just like takingeverything they said and turning
it against him.
He's like, okay, you're going tofuck with what I wanted.
I'm going to fuck with what youwant.
Oh, it's so personal.
I feel it in the performance andthe dynamic between the two of
them.
And they share almost no screentime, which is so fucking great.
This whole second act, which isdense, they're never actually

(01:05:36):
together.
It's true.
But he is with Sandy and thebus.
It's probably good becauseHopper is famously a horrible
person to work with.
So they probably were just like,we're going to put you in a
little room with a bunch oftelevisions by yourself.
And that's you.
That's what you get to do.
I'm in here baiting.
Okay.

(01:05:56):
I'm going to hold the phone likethis then.
Okay.
We're like, do what you want todo, man.
Your cocaine is in the corner.
Can we ask why?
You cannot

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:07):
ask me why.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:07):
Cocaine.
Is he on the phone too?
If he's on the phone like this,I'm going to be on a phone like
this.
It'll be dynamic.
It's evil.
It's more evil.
You don't get it.
When Keanu goes on this greatfucking chase in the Bronco

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:26):
as

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:26):
like trying to go 50 in LA, it's fucking perilous
enough and ends up stealing theJaguar after he almost is able
to get on the bus and stop thiswhole fucking thing.
fucking thing from happening.
The movie's done.
And has to steal, commandeersomeone's car, Toon Man's car.
And as you were saying, guys, hecares about everybody.

(01:06:51):
And so before he busts thisguy's door, he says, do you have
insurance?
Which the city would have paidfor it anyway.
But he's still ass.
Take the damn phone.
It's so good.
Glenn Plummer is great.
Again, the movie's just so richwith great characters.
also it's amazing that the busdoesn't just stop yes

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:12):
well yeah in that scene right there he pulls in
front of the bus so he can writethe sign and at that moment that
slows the bus down but and thenhe's like

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:21):
no no no no because they already went over 50 right
so like right if he had gottenthere before that then he could
have just like pulled in frontand stopped right and just like
stop the whole thing when thepaper flies up and hits the bus
that says bomb on bus that'swhere i'm like movie over It
could have been over two minutesago.
It's over now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:41):
In no way does that guy keep driving.

UNKNOWN (01:07:44):
But movies gotta happen.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:47):
If this episode slows down, if we slow down,
it'll blow.
Alright, we gotta keep going.
We gotta keep going.
He gets on the fucking bus andthe whole time they've been
showing that dude nervous aboutthe cop coming on the

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:01):
bus.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:03):
yeah, yeah.
And then he finally just pulls agun and it's just like, I'm not
fucking here for you dude likestop i like his tactic i think
it's hilarious that people don'tbelieve him when he's like i was
willing to die to get on thisbus to keep it moving and people
are like come on are you sureare you sure yes whatever crime

(01:08:25):
you committed it's fine it's allgood i mean at that point that's
a good tactic because i think itworks if you don't want to kill
everybody right now you need toput that gun down And I had to
do something much more importantBut of course He shoots the
fucking bus driver If MissFrizzle was here This episode of

(01:08:46):
Magic School Bus Would be waydifferent Ortiz wouldn't have
tried to be a fucking hero MissFrizzle would have talked
everybody down Because Ortizlike jumps in And tries to be a
citizen hero And fuckseverything up Gigantor Ortiz

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:03):
Gotta love the nicknames I love the nicknames
they get Ma'am or Gigantor Sogood.
Wildcat.
Wildcat.
Oh,

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:10):
my fate.
We love a wildcat.
Absolutely.
But Harry is now helping.
And it's great just in passingthe exposition of like, yeah,
guess where Jack is?
He's on the bus.
And Harry and Howard are bothwatching what's happening on the
news.
We know that's happening.

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And Jack is able to check thebomb.
A pretty big what?
When he gets under the but whenhe gets into the bus and sees it
through the access panel.
Yeah.
Fuck me.
Oh yeah.
Oh darn.
Oh

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:44):
yeah.
It's having him kind of therelay system.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:47):
Gold watch.
Couldn't help himself.
It's so great.
You think he's being sloppybecause he rushed it.
Like that's their feeling.
It's great, but he did it onpurpose.
We find that out later.
Yeah.
But their, their belief is thathe just, he had to rush it and
use that, but now they know he'snext cop.
And so that's, the that's themost important part right is

(01:10:09):
like that's the thread they'regonna follow he's he's an
encyclopedia of bombs he knowsevery kind and then we just get
into this like cavalcade ofissues with the bus it can't go
under 50 and like you're inyou're in LA the whole time yeah
you're driving through LA andthen you have to get strollers
full of cans when they're on thefreeway and he's like like stay

(01:10:32):
on or get off stay on or get offand he's just get off I'm like
get off get off a freeway Imean, it's jammed up, but yeah,
but you're going to go into theside streets and try to go 50.
It's so unbelievable.
It's ridiculous.
It is ridiculous that theirchemistry though, starts to
carry the movie for me a littlebit here.
I really like it.

(01:10:53):
I think it's great, especiallyconsidering that really we're
watching this movie in realtime.
Right.
So like barely, they, theybarely have that much time
together, but it, they're acrisis situation and right.
Shouldn't date.
someone you met in a highlytraumatic experience, but they
do have such a great, it's notjust a chemistry, but they have

(01:11:13):
a great like partnership andlike understand, like they have
like a shorthand and they cantalk in a way where they
understand each other, which Ithink is really strong.
And, and the movie doesn't leantoo hard into the cheesiness of
the romance, not really later.
It's not about that, right?
It's about getting the fuck offthis bus and saving these
people.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:31):
You could see the chemistry without it being
overly played, you know?
Yeah.
They're just, it's just in bodylanguage moment, like light
little moment lines that aresaid between them in this high
intense situation, which is.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:47):
Chris, what you're saying, I think is absolutely
right.
It's little things like I'm notavailable to drive tomorrow and
just little tiny lines, littletiny things that happen in the
edit.
Like we've all been saying whatthe camera's telling us.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:59):
What did you, what did you, it's like, I don't have
my license.
What for speeding?

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:04):
It's so good.
That moment was like such alittle like,

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:10):
oh, like they both had that moment.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:12):
Him getting Sam off the bus.
And finally getting to talk toHopper.
Yeah.
Talk to Hopper and Beth Grant'sdeath.
The camera sells it so wellbefore it happens.
You care about her because shehas these couple little
exchanges with Sandy Bullock andshe's trying to be brave and she

(01:12:34):
just can't take it.
And Howard kills and we knowthat this gruesome thing happens
mostly in that moment becausehe's seeing what's happening on
the news live well that's whatwe assume yeah right and also
like we see that he has likebombs placed around that aren't
just a big bomb right like uhbut also the SWAT guys that are

(01:12:56):
like yeah come on come on comeon yeah come on come on what are
you guys doing fuck you guys gotit no right like yeah you got it
did no one tell you

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:05):
that is dangerous uh that was yeah that was moment I
was like but

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:08):
the the when they shoot the whatever the mannequin
that goes under the tire it'sgood it's gruesome and it's
awful it's pretty bad that it's

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:18):
rated R I'm thinking about this movie nowadays with a
with a moment like that I meanthat's got to be one of them the
rated R moments like why thismovie is rated R

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:28):
somebody

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:28):
gets run over by a bus and like why if you were

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:31):
trying to do this movie now they'd be like oh just
don't have him get run over bythe bus but like no You need
that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:38):
I agree.
Oh, right.
Cause they wanted to hit thefour quadrants and they wanted
to be PG 13.
Right.
No, you need this.
I agree with you, Chris.
You need to come through this200 years to say, fuck you.
Like, it's not just the fuckyou.
It's the brutality of death.
Like why you're constantlyrooting for Jack is that you
don't want these things tohappen to these people.

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And he's apparently the only onereally capable of keeping it
from happening.
And, And the tensions on the busare building between everyone.
And I'm wondering at this point,is there a bathroom on this bus?
No.
100% no.
But, you know, city buses arebasically bathrooms.

(01:14:22):
Yeah, this is not how LA busesare, people.
Not at all.
I was just thinking, Paul, abouthow Maximum Overdrive tries to
do a lot of what this movie doeswell, which is it puts a bunch
of strangers in a high tensesituation together and makes it
about the tension and the dramaof be also being just together

(01:14:45):
in this space.
And they, this movie does thatreally well with this group of
people while maximum overdrivedoes not do

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:53):
it.
Yeah.
I mean, over you, you feel thetension in your chest the entire
time they're on that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:58):
And the score and the editing and all of that has
a huge part of that.
The moment that Sandra Bullockhas here where, when she
explains that she thought thebomb going off was the last
moment of her life.
I think that is so fuckingfantastic.
And the level of support thatKeanu gives her.

(01:15:20):
You watch this movie and youunderstand why they've continued
to work together.
Because they have a level of,someone said, shorthand
chemistry.
The freeway was not finished.
Oh, I love that reveal.
The 50 feet or coming intofootball season.
He finished on the map.
Yeah, well, I guess he gotbehind schedule.

(01:15:40):
Yeah, when he pulled out themap, he's got the map on this
open car going 50 miles an hour,and they're just like talking.
And then he starts whispering tothem when it's like 50 miles an
hour out to this bus store.
I'm like, how could you hearthis guy?
50 feet.
50 feet.
There's an obsession with 50 inthis movie.
There really is.

(01:16:01):
25 plus 25?
50.
Good job.
Is this an Illuminati movie?

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:07):
he just

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:08):
got new top secret it's a top secret i think you
might be right it might be a topsecret the jump though is
fucking hilarious the fact thatthere are no obstacles in front
of the bus slow it down justlike don't do it like it starts
to feel like looney tunes likethe camp starts to come in i

(01:16:28):
love it nobody poopies orpeepees from vertical to like
like a 90 degree it's just it'sjust jackknifed just like
straight up and you're likewhere or it's like 75 degrees
it's like how in what like werethere hydraulics underneath that
bus and then when that thinghits these guys are gonna go

(01:16:50):
flying in the bus oh yeah theyall kept control of their bowels
remember I mean also this isn'tone of those buses with like the
accordion thing or anything soit's just like how many fucking
this is an early 90s bus it'slike a 1964 None of the tires
blow.
No problemo.

(01:17:12):
They land and Joe Mortonliterally goes, let's go! Let's
not talk about popped tires andthen

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:19):
continuing to drive around for an hour above 50.
We'll get there.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:24):
The driving into LAX, unfortunately the tire
getting shredded happens, butthat's obviously so smart.
And the Alan Ruck line of, I'vealready seen the airport like
just like tripling down on hisself-centeredness so far.
When they first show the sign toLAX, I'm like, Oh, there's no
way you're getting there at 50miles an hour.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:46):
No,

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:48):
like to get off the freeway and get to LAX at 50
miles an hour with all thelights and the fucking traffic.
And like, no, obviously beforenine 11, they just let them
drive onto the tarmac andthere's still like planes in
operation.
Cause we see one get blown tofucking shit later, but like, Oh
yeah.
So like, like, we'll justoperate as normal.

(01:18:09):
They didn't clear the runways oranything.
I think it was a, uh,

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:15):
no, that was, it was a, uh, a new track that they
were building or something orthey said they were like, Oh,
that's the,

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:21):
uh, yeah, but they're still like, right.
So, so they're basically, theyrealize they can just like drive
on the tarmac and he's putting,Jack's putting together the, the
dots that he called, uh, SandyBullock, uh, wildcat.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:35):
So he's putting it together that you went to air.
You went to Arizona?

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:38):
You went to Arizona.
Pretty good football team.
Is that Johnny Utah?
I don't know.
Is that a thing?
Don't forget about Jack going toexamine the bomb.
Oh, God.
He gets off.
He gets off.
He gets off.
He gets off the bus, and thenthey're like, we need someone to
go under the bus and expect it.
How about this guy who just gotoff the bus and must be

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exhausted?
Yeah, he must be really tired.
They only trust me.
The bus only trusts me.
The bus has money.
I've imprinted on the bus.
I'm going to go

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on this little piece of metal with four wheels and a
cable and go 50 miles

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an hour underneath the bus.
Very Indiana Jones.
It is.
I love this little sequence.
It's fun.
It feels very Spielberg-y.
It's like very hero-y shit.
And I love when he's like, youwant me to cut the sheath and
not the wire?
And it's like, yeah, just usewire cutters in the way they're
designed to work and just arestrippers because I'm sure you
have those.

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Don't you literally work for abomb squad?
Yeah.
Like, what is your job?
Swat.
I'm so confused.
What is his job?
Sparkle motion.
Swat.
LAPD.
I love, like, when shit goeswrong because of this flat tire,
put a fucking knife into, orscrewdriver, right into the gas

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tank.
The way he's flailing is sogreat.
It's so relatable.
He's, like, pouring all over hismouth.
He's just like...
Yeah, the naked gun version ofthis.
he'd just be like Zoolanderdrinking

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the gas yeah

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:12):
so one question I had is when they help him into
the bus how does he get into thebus without his feet hitting the
ground because like justphysically like if you grabbed
him he just stays completelylike yeah angular and then it's
like yeah so it's like you turnhim and then he does look pretty
ripped under there so I yeahhe's a surfer man he's a surfer

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Pappas, Sandy Bullock says, youfelt you needed another
challenge or something.
That's one of those things inwriting that does such a good
job for me to go all theselittle devices that have
happened through this.
I'm fine with it.
Cause they know totally fine.
Yeah.
Even just the little conceit ofher being like, not funny, Jack

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and hitting him and then going,what's that smell?
Like, yeah, it's like, it's,it's both like just that little,
it's both a character moment forher and you get the little
relationship stuff but also agreat pushing of plot and that's
that's what this movie does sowell throughout where you're not
these things we're talking aboutthat feel like contrived they're
they're mostly like physicalthings they're not like

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emotional or character things soyeah as you're saying this we're
saying goodbye to harry to mypoint of like this movie is not
afraid to kill people yeah theytake a known star actor in
pretty decent sized role that inmost movies you'd assume he's
gonna make it and he has a greatstory that he's inspired in this

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moment where the bombessentially has been the shark
if you're Roy Scheider and thatwhen he sees the sensor bomb arm
and it does that great shot ofhim it's his version of Roy
Scheider like the sharkintroduced to him where he just

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turns his face up just slightlylike oh fucking shit like the
level of panic is so severe thatthat's all he can do it's such a
great actor-y fucking nerdy coolstory that like the shark
eventually because he's kind oflike the Robert Shaw of this
like I don't know but iteventually catches up and gets

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him and it's just script wiseit's a great increasing the
stakes for Jack it's now evenit's now more personal

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yeah

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well the way that that hopper still as he's saying
that he intentionally used thegold watch to lure them in he
also can't help himself but saywatch that wildcat behind the
wheel and we love a wildcat ohyeah who are we the wildcats who
are we gonna be the wildcats welove a wildcat

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he can't

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help but give himself up and jack figures out
it there's a CCTV watching themand they're at the

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:09):
whim of a madman.
The whim of a

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madman.
I would have loved to seeHopper's Joker.
Watching this with BrandonMarino because he's staying here
right now.

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Oh, cool.
I thought I saw him walk by.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:22):
We were watching it and he was like, this is giving
me really strong Danny DeVitoPenguin vibes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:28):
I love that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:29):
There was one of the lines that he has when he's in
the room with all the TVs thatkind of

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:37):
transcended time a bit, where he was like,
something happened and saw ithappen on the TV.
I feel

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like I'm...
What is his line?
He's like, I'm manipulating livetelevision...
in the moment it's like he'swatching it happen on the TV and
it was such a futuristic nowthing that's happening where
things that happen right nowyou're seeing on TV
automatically and he says it inthis movie in 94 where he's like

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wave of the

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:09):
future Jack

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:10):
yeah

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:11):
yeah he's like wave of the future it's happening
live action

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live action TV at the edge of my fingertips or
something he says and it's thatline was like It kind of haunted
me a little bit because we livein that world now of stuff
happening instantly and we'rejust watching it live.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:30):
And this, and he does feel like one of those
people that would like run atruck through a bunch of, like,
he feels like one of thosefucking psycho terrorists that
would snap, take out a bunch ofcivilians to prove a point.
The casting in this movie, RisaBrayman Garcia and Billy
Hopkins, the casting in thismovie is phenomenal.
They all fit in the world.

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I know.
the movie's not super groundedat all times, but they're really
grounded in the approaches andin the feelings.
And Hopper is, I don't know if,is he watching from his
business?
Where are, where does he havethis bank of tea?
Did he just go into some randombook depot on, on the street in
Dallas?
That's Homer Simpson.

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That's Homer Simpson.
It's not the grassy.
No.
Yeah.
It feels just like, I don'tknow.
He's squatting.
Maybe it's, of feels like theriddler's lair later in batman
forever like this weird little ibelieve he would kill somebody
who had that business and justgo in like he's very menacing i

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love this is where i was like isthis how ph is this how cameras
work they can like tap into asignal and like like my talk to
the news guys yeah my brains i'mlike so they can they can
manipulate the signal of a v ofthe camera with a vcr i don't
know what's happening i don'ti'm yeah it's something about
uhf signals and them being ableto essentially bounce it or

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something they try to loop itloop it they try to go over yeah
very had to drop her purse yeahi know right that's the thing
that fucks them over but theythey do get everybody unloaded
and uh jack and annie off orwait jack and annie jack jack
jack and jack jill's off and Goddamn it.

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Here's a little story about Jackand Annie.
Jack and Diane.
So the money trap is sprung.
The bus is done.
Now we get trains.
The second act of the movie isall bus.
I forgot it.
It goes elevator, bus, trains.

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Good.
Speed 2 should have been atrain, but they cut that

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:51):
out.
That's why Speed 2 wasn't asuccess because they did it in
Speed 1.
There's a lot of

SPEAKER_05 (01:26:54):
reasons Speed 2 isn't a success.
Mostly because they couldn't getKeanu back.
Are you sure?
Are you sure?
Speed 2?
Or not Speed 2, Speed...
Speeds.
Speeds.
Is that Willem Dafoe?

SPEAKER_06 (01:27:09):
He has a special connection

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:11):
to classical music.
The money trap and the edit thathappens just when it cuts to the
canister in the ground.
Even some of their goofyequipment and everything, the
way that it's cut around, it'sjust working.
And Sandy getting taken hostageby this guy who I mean, he was

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SWAT.
He knows the underground.
It works.
The hostage taking and goingunderground and making her wear
the bomb and repeatingeverything.
It's all, it all works for me.
I recently rewatched MissionImpossible Rogue Nation.
Good movie.
And it's a great movie.
It's my favorite mission,actually.
I don't think it's the best one,but it's my favorite one.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:54):
That's what counts.
MI1 is hard to...

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:58):
MI1's great.
Fallout's great.
Ghost Protocol's great.
They do a similar thing withSimon Pegg in that where he
where he has a bomb vest and hehas an earpiece in and he is
just repeating what theterrorist is saying yeah to
Ethan and I thought I was likeoh maybe they you know it's a
little bit of a speed you knowthat's cool I didn't think of
that when I saw the movie I he'sbeen looking at the back or side

(01:28:21):
of this woman's head though forhours and he's just like fuck
you don't move freeze fuckerwhatever yeah oh it's you oh no
you the hot chick it was untilshe hit the corner where the
light was.
Oh, sorry.
My fault.
My fault.
I do like where it becomes alittle more about class even for

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Howard to make him even moreunlikable.
Because it's like, you're takingthis retired cop with an injury
that you're now making a psycho.
And I like that it's goingthere.
But he also does this classthing where Jack is like, you're
crazy.
And Dennis Hopper goes, poorpeople are crazy jack i'm

(01:29:03):
eccentric where it's like i havetoo much money and status to be
crazy i'm not crazy and i likesome lex luther shit it's great
it's a great line yeah it's agood one and then you know this
whole train sequence which ithink wild for the for the
entire uh population of theunited states they all were
introduced to the fact that lahas trains and they work how

(01:29:27):
exactly what and then they'reunder they're underground la
where it's like yeah there'slike two tracks and one of them
just goes north to south.
And this is that one.
But that

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:37):
was the one that was getting built right under the
Chinese theater.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:40):
Well, there is, well, there is one in Hollywood
for sure, but it, that isn'twhere it has a stop, but that's
the, the train station wherehe's in.
That is the, I believe the NorthHollywood train station.
I think you're right.
And then.
Is any of that electricspaghetti down any of that neon
sign shit that's in this moviedown there?

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It looks like they, It's stillthere.
Okay.
I was going to say it looks likethey make it look so crisp and
clean and like not, oh yeah,urine.
You have to remember this 1994,right?
And it's new.
It's pretty new at that point.
Somehow all of that shit hasgone back in time and now it
looks like it's in 1974.
So if you take the train, you'llwait 45 minutes for it and

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you'll probably get stabbed.
Probably.
Are you sure?
The subway chase though throughthe corridors and on to the
train and Dennis Hopper, is thatworking for everybody?
The Dennis Hopper stuff wherehe's like, you're not going to
feel it.
It's not.
The funny thing to me that's ishe has this dead man's trigger

(01:30:43):
and then suddenly he's shootinga gun.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:45):
He's got it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:46):
But you got to hold this.
He's putting handcuffs on her.
I'm like the pure thing of deadman trigger and shooting a gun.
I was like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_04 (01:30:54):
Which finger?
He gives her the dead mantrigger at one point.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:57):
He does.
But at one point he has the deadman trigger and he has this like
AK or whatever.
Yeah.
And he's shooting it.
And I'm like, what, how are you,what, how is this happening?
There's just so much to managethere that I'm like, I don't
believe that this personwouldn't just accidentally blow
themselves up at any moment.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:12):
No.
Yeah.
They, they got to this momentwhere they're, he's jugged.
They're like, Oh shit.
He's juggling like five thingsright now.
And, and now he actually has ascene partner and this is a lot
of work.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:23):
You hit it right on the head where it's like, got
the dead man trigger in the MP5and he's like cutting an orange
and he's making a bagel.
And, and, You can't keep up withit.
It does this great thing whereit foreshadows Jack's great
one-liner.
Great one-liner.
Yeah, well, I'm taller.

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Boys, I'm smarter.
Yeah, well, I'm taller.
I wonder how many they tried.
I don't know, but Keanu noticingthat light and having to dodge
it and them ending up there andthe light being the thing that
takes them out.
Gotta say, Full decapitation.
Instant

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:04):
decapitation.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32:06):
The body doesn't go flying.
It just decapitates.
But he can roll around on top ofthere.
That's how fast they're going.
I'll rip your spine out, I swearto God.
He wasn't kidding.
Because it got his head andspine.
Similar to Danny DeVito as thepenguin, I'm challenged to

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believe that he's any sort ofphysical that he would be able
to have any sort of threat toKeanu and he's also punching him
with the dead man trigger I'mlike yes wouldn't you want like
you will die too right moviesover fifth or sixth time now at

(01:32:48):
least yeah I was just like whyaren't you protecting and also
like Jack too you're punchingthe dude and you're you could
throw him off this train anywith any punch and he has the
fucking dead man trigger

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:59):
whatever

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:00):
I feel like there's not a lot of like thought put
into that but i do like i dolike when they can't of course
he shot the fucking so here'sanother guy who died he shot the
fucking driver conductor dudedude guy and the train can't go
and he the train keeps going sothey have they don't have the
key and after the handcuffs thatsandy is like handcuffed to this

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bar on and i was just like manthat's a pretty shittily made
train i'm sure you could go tothe roof of where that's bolted
in and just fucking put yourbody into it and take it out.
Keanu is putting his everythingand he wouldn't take that bar
out.
If it's anybody, I will, themovies even squeezing in, like
where's pain.

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He lost his head.
Like it's squeezing in oneliners as the train has to, we
got to speed it up.
Cause the answer is always asecond job.
At the end of the movie,

SPEAKER_04 (01:33:56):
they throw in another

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:58):
one.
Luckily he knows that there'sjust a path that goes up to a, a
road how does he know like whyoh good call i forgot

SPEAKER_04 (01:34:06):
it's the neck it's the neck brace with the earpiece
you know

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:08):
it's the it's the sparkle unicorn

SPEAKER_04 (01:34:10):
motion whatever yeah oh yeah that was the second i
was like wait are they throwingin a second jump at the end of
the movie here with they shouldhave just

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:18):
taken the train like the next shot should have been
the train on the freeway it'slike it just comes out of the
ground and jumps the freewayagain and goes into the sky and
goes past the moon just keepsgoing this is great It's just
the end of Greece.
Or just done the cut back to thebus doing the land.
The same exact cut.
They didn't get a cut of thetrain.

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Yeah, the train.
I kind of like that it takes theelevator deboarding of hostages
and repeats it kind of with thebus.
Alan Ruck is like the lastperson essentially to get off
because not only does he want totry to be gentlemanly for being
a shit the whole movie, but healso is like mildly scared.
There's like some...

(01:35:01):
for that guy being such a shit.
But I will say like, as much asI would like to see the pattern
broken and not with like a crashversus a bus continuing to go,
but the train going by the moon,that model work and the force
perspective and stuff is really,really cool.
This is the kind of shit that Ireally miss in movies.

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That's like done with CG orwhatnot.
These miniatures that peoplejust killed themselves over and
it looks so cool.
great.
The audio is so great.
And the train hits HollywoodBoulevard and then it's a
totally different.
We got the Lord of the Rings.
And it's a different train.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35:39):
We got the Lord of the Rings ending.
Where everybody's just there.

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:43):
They're on the ground and everybody's just
there video like,

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:46):
yay!

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:47):
Clapping at them.
It's like looking at them.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:51):
I can't believe you hit my van! Yeah.
They hit my van!

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:55):
And they're playing, what was it?
What is it they're playing atthe Chinese theater?
2001.
2001.
doesn't want a space odyssey.
Oh, is that, was that, was thatwhat was up there?
I missed that.
That's great.
I think that's a, that was a Foxrelease or was, yeah.
And the movie just box at thetime.
Well, I mean, we get the ideathat they're going to bone in
this train.
And I was like, Oh, can I saythe

SPEAKER_04 (01:36:16):
line?
Can I say it?
Please.
Relationships based on anintense experiences never work.
We'll have to base it on sexthen.

SPEAKER_05 (01:36:27):
When she says that.
yeah what what happens well whenshe says when she says that i
can't think of a word that iwould i'm not gonna say any of
the words i just love that thesepeople are like pictures i'm
like they're just like filmingit the guy has a video camera

(01:36:48):
like an old school video camerathen he's like and then what's
weird is like during the creditsit's just hardcore porn speed
that's what i need and they'rejust power fucking it's insane
this is fucking speaking ofspeed What do people think of
the movie called Crank?
I haven't seen it forever.
I'd have to see it again.
I think this movie is aprecursor

SPEAKER_04 (01:37:10):
to that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:37:11):
I think this movie is a precursor to most action
movies.

SPEAKER_04 (01:37:16):
I think I said it earlier.
I think the Crank phone boothwas based off of that one shot
of the phone booth.
I think that movie was based offof that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:37:28):
This movie, it's incredible that it's two hours
long.
It's absolutely incredible thatit's two hours.
And I think 55, I think thereare a lot more movies that take
from it than it takes fromdiehard, for instance, which was
brought up.
I think the little devices thatit uses through the movie all

(01:37:49):
the time, like it becomes itsown thing.
Does it, does it stand on theshoulders of giants at times?
Yeah.
But I think it's its own thing.
Christopher, we've talked aboutspeed.
Do you have any final thoughts,re-speed?

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:04):
Man.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:05):
Did we miss anything?

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:07):
Did we miss anything?
Jumping off the bus?
Jumping off the train.
Jumping off the elevator.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:17):
Jumping out of the car.
I know.
Really, it should have been aplane for the next one.
We love vehicles.
People love movies withvehicles.

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:25):
I just want to make sure we hit all of the top
one-liners.
Right before the bus jumps, hegoes,

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:32):
everybody hold on.
Great one-liner.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:37):
What are you going to hold on to?
One of the classics.

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:40):
Hold on.
Wipe your No,

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:46):
I mean, I think it's, uh, this movie just like
we just said, it kind of reallyset up a lot of kind of intense
action movies for the, for therest of the nineties into the
early two thousands.
Right.
You know, like you

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:01):
said, crank, have you ever guys, have you ever
seen the movie nonstop?

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:04):
Yeah.
With Liam Neeson.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:06):
Yeah.
I think.

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:08):
Yeah.
It's takes place.
I'm like, take the fuckingelephant.
Yeah.
I don't know there's just likeso many movies that I think this
movie kind of influenced that Ido wish I know we have such
crazy big budget action moviesnowadays and stuff and I don't
know this is such a simpleaction movie that I

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:29):
is that to its credit or are you discrediting

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:33):
no I think it's to its credit you know that it's so
simple and I think that's whyyou know you go later on and you
get the you know you with Keanu,you get the matrix.
I mean, what a crazy worldaction building world that we're
talking about, you know, and I'mtrying to, I'm trying to compare
what action movies right nowthat are coming out that are,

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that could be kind of in thesame world.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:01):
That's all guys.
The only one I can think of.
Good luck.
Yeah.
Good luck.
Like fall guy.
I feel like is, is the closestwe've gotten to in a long time
to something like this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So has your rating changed?
You were at four Kianos.
Four Kianos?

UNKNOWN (01:40:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:19):
I think I'm going to, I'm going to

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:21):
hold, I'm going to hold

SPEAKER_02 (01:40:21):
at

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:22):
four.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:22):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:24):
I wanted, I was

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:24):
going to, I want to hold.
You are allowed quarter measuresby the way.
Oh, he's activated the Libertyrule.
All right.
So you can, you can go to 25sand 75s if

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:37):
you would like.
The limit does not exist.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:39):
Okay.
If you would like, I'm nottrying to push you.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:42):
I want to go, I want to go 3.75 Keanu's.
You went down.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:49):
Wow.
Wow.
All right.
Well, okay.
It's me now.
Paul's going to go down on you.
I think he's going to go up onus.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:59):
It was

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:59):
just

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:00):
the ending.
I had to really process thatending, the train sequence
again.
I think it just, you know,

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:07):
I think it builds to it.
I think it earns it.
I think the whole movie is alittle ridiculous.
I think when it leans into thecamp that it does it
intentionally, it feels fun.
And I think that's all the moviemaybe is really trying to do.
I like it.
that it has some of these littlelike flubs that we've talked

(01:41:27):
about and like where it's likehow does that bus like drive
through fucking side guardwhatever it is guard rails like
or 55 posts and never slow Idon't really care I just want
cars

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:41):
I want everybody on the top of the rut everybody
moved to the right of the bus

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:44):
well works out fine I think the movie in the
entirety of the experience isgreat fuck it I love a wildcat
I'm I'm going to stay at the4.5.
I am not allowed quartermeasures.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:59):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:00):
I'm going to stay at the 4.5.
I didn't hear anybody say

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:03):
anything.
Gold watches?
You said gold watches?

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:05):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:08):
you, Christopher.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:09):
I didn't hear anything that anybody seemed
really bothered by that I didn'treally expect, I guess.
And everything about the moviethat we've kind of poked at, I
expected kind of to poke at.
So I was most mostly okay withthat.
I guess I didn't expect theDennis Hopper and Penguin
comparison.

(01:42:30):
Similar hands also.
Is that a thing?
It was the same hand.
It was the same prosthetic.
His thumb was actually, I wasgoing to say, was that guy's
nose.
I'm going to also stay at myfour bullets in your buddy's

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legs because you got to shootyour buddies.
Got to shoot your buddies.
I love this movie.
I will continually watch thismovie.
This movie has a bunch offucking ridiculous jumps in
logic and gaps in physics thatI'm okay with, but they're
there.
Four is very high.

(01:43:11):
Four is super high.
And again, this is again, forme, a definitive action set
piece of a movie for the 90s.
And Keanu is a big part of that.
Everyone should watch thismovie.
If you haven't seen Speed andyou're listening to this, you're
fucking dumb.
You're not dumb.
You're eccentric.
You're eccentric.

(01:43:32):
If they're poor, they're fuckingdumb.
And

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:35):
just so everybody knows, my ranking system, one
Keanu is two of your guys'whatever you have.
It's Keanu.

SPEAKER_05 (01:43:46):
I think that's fair.
So that means if you're at 3.75,you're at 7.5 Keanu's.

SPEAKER_06 (01:43:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:43:55):
Well, we did let, I mean, Paul, we did let Sam go to
six.
Absolutely.
I'm

SPEAKER_03 (01:44:01):
thinking I'm

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:02):
back.
So I didn't realize you'd bethat high on this.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:06):
As I said, I love this movie.
That's why I went down a littlebit because I missed the bus
getting pulled by the cord.
You guys taught me some thingstoday that I definitely want to
go watch this movie again.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:19):
So I, on the movies that I really love that I know
are not great movies, I'll outof heart like where it's like I
know this is not a four starfive star movie I get that but I
will watch it again and againand again is this one of those
movies for you that you put likea heart on it like you just
watch it over and over

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:37):
okay

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:38):
that adds up

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:39):
yeah yeah this is one of those movies that I could
just have on on the TV while I'mdoing things yeah ever it's

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:49):
you know what I mean yeah thank you so much for
bringing this to us and I'm soglad I got to read rewatch this
movie.
I'm reminded about how much Ilove it.
Chris, if people, again, onceagain, want to find you or see
you, where can they do so?

SPEAKER_04 (01:45:03):
Check me out on Christopher underscore Morrison
on Instagram or Christopherunderscore Morrison on TikTok.
I do have a letterbox.
I'm still building it out.
I'm new to it.
I'm trying to get better at it.
We believe in you.
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SPEAKER_05 (01:45:24):
You should keep Cast Chris, if you are a casting
director.
Yes.
Cast him, audition him, get himin your room.
Check out my

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IMDBs, if you'd like.

SPEAKER_05 (01:45:34):
If you're thinking, Paul could do that, Chris could
do it better.
Give Chris

SPEAKER_04 (01:45:38):
a call.
If you guys were looking at thevideo right now, you could look
at my mustache versus Paul's andget a bit of...
It's

SPEAKER_05 (01:45:46):
a

SPEAKER_04 (01:45:46):
mustache off.
It's a stash off.

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It's a little over the top, but it's okay.
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(01:46:09):
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They show us all those metricsand everything.
That's pretty cool.

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I'm just trying to keep itsparkly, you know?
Gotta keep it up.
Gotta keep it sparkly.
Gotta keep going.
We can never stop this podcast,so...
This is fucking too hard.

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