Twins / It's Barnstang Now (Guest Cohost: Ben Burris)

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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Uh I can't trust you.

(00:01):
It's true.
So I'm monitoring you for yourdeviance.
I think that's fair consideringthe conversation we just had.
Hi, everybody.
But it's a fun idea.
It is a fun idea.
Welcome.
It's a little teaser for you,and a teaser on a teaser there,
and a hat on a hat on a hat.
My name is Paul.

SPEAKER_08 (00:19):
And my name is Ben Burris.
Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 (00:24):
I know.
That's kind of a curveball.
Right?
That's fun.
Ben McFadden, your more regular,not that you're irregular,
Burris.
Not strange.
You can call me what you want.
The rhythm is what I'm reallyreferring to.
The rhythm's what's gonna getyou.
It's about to get me.
Ben McFadden would normally beyour co-host, but today I have
the Schwarzenegger to my DeVito.

SPEAKER_08 (00:45):
I'll take it.

SPEAKER_03 (00:46):
The I can't remember her.
The Preston to my I can't whatis her name?
I have the fact sheet here.
Uh Webb.
Yeah?
Okay.
Sure.
Why not?
If you're not caught up, BenBurris is here co-hosting with
me, and we are going to talkabout the movie Twins.

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This was Burris'squasi-selection.
Will you tell will you tell thepeople about how you feel about
how this went?

SPEAKER_08 (01:14):
Twins was brought up as a possibility.
And then I had a couple ideas.
So then I picked twins with thecaveat that, you know, when it's
the three of us, we'll return toone of those other films.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24):
Up your sleeve, you have the perfect weapon.
Just waiting, like an ace upyour sleeve, which is pretty
cool.
I don't even know exactly whatthat is.
You also brought up a knight inthe streets and kind of an
expert.
Uh-huh.
Wow, cool.
You had also mentioned a moviethat like I'm super interested
in watching, and I just want youto tell the people about
Dracula's Dog.

SPEAKER_08 (01:45):
Oh, yeah, uh Dracula's Dog or uh or Zoltan.
Okay.
Uh Dracula's Dog.
I think it's there's there'slike three names for that movie.
Special Effects was uh uh StanWinston.
And uh my dad worked on thatmovie, and uh as I don't know
what he did.
He was usually a UPN, uh UPproduction manager, but USP
produced in but um he uh thedog's eyes glow in the movie,

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and my dad figured out how tomake the uh the eyes glow.
That's so cool.
But like Stan Winston made likevampire teeth for all these dogs
to wear because there's a bunchof them stuff.
Yeah.
What what was the premise of themovie?
Oh god, I saw it when I was like12.
So um I don't know, Dracula'sdog is out there and about and
wreaking havoc, and I thinkeventually Dracula comes.

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But there's this movie was madein the 70s.

SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
I want to say the actual plot to this movie.
Communist soldiers accidentallyunleash Dracula's servant and
dog, Zoltan, during Romanianexcavations.
They set out to find the lastliving descendant unaware of the
dangers.
But there's also a vampirehunter involved and other

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descendants and caves and allsorts of stuff.
Yeah, so that was close.
So we had talked about doingthat movie and thought maybe do
something a little moremainstream.
And so we went to actually thecomplete opposite end of the
spectrum and picked maybe themost mainstream movie that's
ever been made.

SPEAKER_10 (03:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (03:14):
From Dracula's dog, and they're like, you know what?
Flip the coin 180 fuckingdegrees.
A movie that I can't wait totalk about some of the fun facts
for.
Just some people know how tomake magic happen, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 (03:26):
It's just the right combination of ingredients at
the right time, right place.

SPEAKER_03 (03:29):
Throw enough spaghetti at a wall, some of
it's gonna stick.
Ben.
What have you been doing?

unknown (03:55):
What have I been doing?

SPEAKER_08 (03:57):
I I don't know.
Um, I've been uh I have a newhouse because I inherited a
house.
My dad passed away in thesummertime.
It's been uh it's been a wholething.
I'm doing all right, you know,and now I'm living in my
childhood home, which isinteresting.
Yeah.
I've definitely put my ownstarted to put my own spin on it
and redid the living room.
But now there's just there'sjust still a lot of stuff I have
to go through.
It's it's a packed house, youknow, one day at a time.

SPEAKER_03 (04:20):
Yeah, well, and just in terms of like the process of
all these things.
Like you were talking where it'slike, I've already done two
dumpsters, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (04:26):
Two, you know, trying to figure out what to
throw away, what to hold on to.
What paperwork do I do?
What taxes do I yeah, the estateside of it is just uh is awful.
Yeah.
And the fact that everyone atsome point has like to go
through this.

SPEAKER_03 (04:40):
But you heard it here last, as per usual on the
review review.
Yeah, shit's tough.

SPEAKER_08 (04:45):
Um but um um I'm doing a uh one night stage
reading of um Macers.
Oh.

SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
This is nor not a church nor a theater.
Well, I know I just like okay.
Macbeth and we can fight herefor the one prize.
Oh, great.
It's not against the rules.
Okay, yeah.
Also, when is the next 1448thing?
What's going on?

SPEAKER_08 (05:07):
So we have a fundraiser coming up on November
15th at the Roguelike Taver uhRoguelike Tavern.
There's gonna be a silentauction and a raffle, and we're
uh doing readings of threedifferent 10-minute plays, one
from each year of the festivalso far.
And we're all just we're tryingto raise money for our next

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festival that goes up onFebruary 6th and February 7th.

SPEAKER_03 (05:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (05:32):
Mm-hmm.
That'll be festival number four.

SPEAKER_03 (05:34):
You want to hear something cool?

SPEAKER_08 (05:35):
Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (05:36):
You heard it here first.

SPEAKER_08 (05:38):
Okay.
Oh.

SPEAKER_03 (05:39):
Breaking news.
Is it?
Which again, like normally wesaid, you know, you heard it
here last.

SPEAKER_08 (05:43):
Mm-hmm.
So we did we did one we bookedit.
180.
Yeah, we did that.

SPEAKER_03 (05:48):
It was a first.
It's like a big tall bodybuilderand what is it, all the crap
that was left over.
You know, two totally differentpeople that scratch their
tonight simultaneously.

SPEAKER_08 (06:00):
Yes, you're a night bro.

SPEAKER_03 (06:02):
You promise?
What do I do?
I don't know what to do.
Wouldn't there have been amanual where he was your twin
brother?

SPEAKER_08 (06:10):
You'd think the education manual.
That's to say, like, he's heknows what he he speaks seven or
eight languages.
Right.
And is is working alongscientists and is and is read,
he's just he's book learned, iswhat he says.
So why why hasn't he likethere's there's tons of books
about sex and the human body andand procreation, and but he's

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absolutely clueless.

SPEAKER_03 (06:37):
Interesting.
Interesting.
Think about that.
Just think about that, everyone.
Think about that real good.
I also find it interesting thathe needs to read a manual to
drive a car, but knows exactlyhow the alarm works.
Yes.
Yes.
Was that in that manual?
It might have been.

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I get maybe.

SPEAKER_08 (06:59):
It might have been, but I mean It might have been.
Let's nitpick it fucking.
Oh, it's great.
What are you doing?
I love it.
I'm learning the drive.

SPEAKER_03 (07:09):
I got to that point almost with uh goosebumps.
I got very fast at readinggoosebumps.
Oh, because I had the first likehundred and something and got
very proficient at reading thegoosebumps.
I I couldn't go ArnoldSchwarzenegger reading a car
manual fast.
Okay, but pretty quick.
Nice impressed.

SPEAKER_07 (07:28):
Very good.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
You know what else will impress you?
I'm gonna tell you what I'vebeen doing.

SPEAKER_07 (07:32):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (07:33):
I make a lot of breakfasts, and I don't think
I've ever shared this specificpiece of my breakfast on what we
call uh Paul's Recipe CornerPRC.
It that's all it stands for.
Paul's recipe corner.
Great.
I like to make scrambled eggsand bacon in the morning.
You know, that's uh specialcase, a big fan.

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And uh I do the bacon in the airfryer.

SPEAKER_08 (07:59):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (08:00):
That's the the only way to fly.
And the only way to fly theeggs.
Thank you.
Yeah.
The eggs, I put a little butterin a saucepan.
And apparently it's the GordonRamsay method.
Oh and I I'm sorry if you talkto I did.
Okay.
He took it and he put his nameon it after I taught it to him.

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Fucking Gordon Ramsay.
Well, I was back in my 50s then.
In a little more vain now thatI'm my teens, 1985.

SPEAKER_08 (08:30):
And you're trying to bring up the next generation of
chefs.

SPEAKER_03 (08:32):
So I mean you just gotta soft scrambies.
There you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You whip it around with the thenonstick thingy in the saucepan
with the butter.
Sour cream.
Just a good, you know, it's asmaller spoon in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pepper, salt.
The sour cream has like noflavor that transfers over.

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It's chocolate on there.
The other secret you have it onthe heat for 30 seconds and you
keep scraping the saucepan.
You take it off for 30 seconds,you keep scraping the saucepan
because on the medium heat, itstays hot off the heat, and you
don't overcook the eggs.

SPEAKER_08 (09:11):
I've seen it done on low, and you're just always
scraping inward.
And then so when the solids endup just staying in the middle,
the liquid goes back out, andyou just keep doing that.
And that's supposed to beanother method that works to get
airy scrambled ox.

SPEAKER_03 (09:25):
I think it's I think it's effective.
I know to which you'rereferring.
I prefer But I don't like it.
This met with the sour cream andwithin just a couple like heat,
no heat, heat, no heat, likeyou're done.
It's wonderful.
The pan comes clean easily.
It's fantastic.
Ben?
Yes.
What have you been watching?

SPEAKER_08 (10:02):
Uh but what did I watch?
Um, I watched Demon Knight.

SPEAKER_07 (10:05):
Dude.

SPEAKER_08 (10:06):
Because I had to miss.
We were gonna go see ittogether, and I ended up having
to work.
I had a ticket and it just gotwasted.
Which is a real bummer.
It was.
It was a bummer.
So I watched it.

SPEAKER_03 (10:17):
Ernest Dickerson Nvidia.
And shouts to you for not doingthe experience, but being like,
shit, you know what?

SPEAKER_08 (10:23):
Go fucking watch this movie.
I'm not gonna miss out.
It was so enjoyable.
What a warms the cockles.
Yeah.
What a what a silly tales fromthe crypt movie, which is
exactly what it's supposed tobe.

SPEAKER_03 (10:38):
Right.
This was so funny to me.
Ernest R.
Dickerson was at the uh QA afterthe movie and had said that he
just thought he was making amovie called Demon Knight.
He didn't know it was a Talesfrom the Crypt movie for a
while.
And was offered to direct thosesequences, which he handed over
to Gilbert Adler to direct, whohad done them on TV and stuff

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like that.
And that's why they have such aspecific feel uh that feels just
like the show, and the moviefeels like something.

SPEAKER_08 (11:08):
I I mean, you know that they spent so much money on
getting the clipkeeper to likestand up and walk as the
director on set, you know, withthe like the shitty blue screen.
It's like, oh, that's they're dothey're going at it, but like
they spent a lot of money onthat.

SPEAKER_03 (11:20):
And a lot of time it kind of ages kind of well.
The mixed media of that movie.
You had said something.
And Billy Zane.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08 (11:30):
So he's top, he's a he's a zaniist.

SPEAKER_03 (11:33):
At 11 at Xaniacs Unite.
We're here.
I love it.
I'm so glad you saw the movie.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
Great performances, greatwriting, great direction.

SPEAKER_08 (11:43):
Can I give you one interesting fact?
Oh, please.
Um, Death Becomeser wasoriginally going to be a Tales
from the Crypt movie.

SPEAKER_03 (11:50):
I did not know that.
That is such a perfect movie forthat.
Because I these are all come upin stories.

SPEAKER_08 (11:59):
But I think it's like they got they got this
cast, and like I think this haslegs on its own, and then they I
think it was something likethat.
I read it a while ago.

SPEAKER_03 (12:05):
No, and it makes sense too, because Robert
Zemeckis is a Tales from theCrypt producer and obviously I
guess made that his own thing,but Demon Knight doing its own
thing, and we were talking aboutthis before.
There's some sort of point wherealmost every movie, especially
horror movies or action movies,have to go fuck it for at least
a moment.
And this movie says fuck it at apoint, and then it just says it

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doesn't stop.
And doesn't stop saying it untilthe very end of the movie.
Thomas Aidens.
Something special.
When do you do you feel thatmoment?

SPEAKER_08 (12:36):
Uh when it just they stopped giving there's now it's
just like one long fuck.

SPEAKER_03 (12:40):
Yeah, when did that moment start?

SPEAKER_08 (12:42):
The first problem I mean it's I mean it's it's
shortly after when they gettrapped in the hotel.
Okay.
I think at that point, like thenthey're just they're going ball.
It's fine.
Maybe maybe it's when CCHPounder also when once they came
on screen, I was just like, fuckyes, I know it was like this.
Yeah, what a lot of CCH Pounder.

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It might have been when she whenshe lost her arm and then was
like still like, I'm good to go.
She didn't give me the vodka,give it to me.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:14):
For me, it's one of the ultimate moves in a movie.
And like Seven does this withlike the credits, I think, where
it's kind of setting you up forwhat's gonna happen.
I don't really know what's goingon with Demon Knight.
And then there's the there'skind of these two moments that
happen pretty quickly back toback.
And I've seen this movie like 20times.

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But the sheriff is like, allright, we're gonna go down to
the station and sort this shitout.
Both of the cars that were inthat crash were stolen, and he's
gonna take the villain and thehero.

SPEAKER_09 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:46):
And Billy Zane turk turns away from the camera and
then toward it and goes, Whywait?
And then just lays a punch intothe sheriff through his face.
Yeah, through the mouth out theback of the head, get the head
off of the body, and it'simmediately like, This is what
we're doing here.

SPEAKER_08 (14:04):
That's like that's right around the lockdown.
Like once the hotel is like,it's like, oh, we're we're in
it.

SPEAKER_03 (14:09):
Everybody's stuck.

SPEAKER_08 (14:09):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 (14:10):
And then when Billy Zane jumps out the window,
throws off the cowboy garb,sick, all this cowboy shit,
which is apparently watch themovie.
So he sheds all this garb thathe apparently is required to
wear for I think his job, likehis day job, his nine to five is
doing being a demon and chasingpeople.

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Yep.
But he says, uh, sick of thiscowboy shit, you fucking ho
dunk, podunk, whoa, them there,motherfuckers, and then cuts his
hand open and like starts thesedemons start spawning or
whatever.
The movie just hits fucking 15so fast.

SPEAKER_08 (14:49):
And very like, oh yeah, this this feels like Crypt
Keeper demon, like the makeupstyle, and then like the weird
uh vestigial tail/slash abdomen.

SPEAKER_03 (14:59):
So like like butt people, all of them.

SPEAKER_10 (15:03):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:04):
What a time.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
Oh, yeah.
I'm so glad you brought up CCHPounder and Thomas Hayden
Church.
I love Charles Fleischer in thatmovie.
Mildly known fact that he playsWally the Mailman as the voice
of Roger Rabbit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Please bring it up, Paul.
I couldn't help myself.
And just playing, like, youknow, absolute stereotype
character, especially for thattime, you know, the the

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quote-unquote good guy who'sjust fawning over, you know,
right, you know, that wholething the movie does a really
good job at subverting some ofthese archetypes and tearing
them down and bringing them up.
And I don't think you expect thehero that emerges to be that.
And also, I think the movie,it's in one actor's hands and

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then another and then another,and it hands the movie to these
other actors perfectly from actone to two to three.

SPEAKER_08 (15:55):
Also, always love to see um, can't think of his name,
and it's not Dan Hedeya, but Ialways group them together.
It's the the alcoholic DickMiller.

SPEAKER_03 (16:02):
Yeah.
From Gremlins.
Uh Burr shake my hand.
He's great.

SPEAKER_08 (16:06):
Always love to see him.

SPEAKER_04 (16:07):
God's doing some serious thinking tonight.

SPEAKER_03 (16:09):
Let's get fucked up, Uncle Willie.
What have I been watching?
Uh, I'm gonna say one line, andI hope you will get some
satisfaction out of it.
I don't know.
Maybe some of the listenerswill.
No, you're obsessed with her?
And you're obsessed with herdarter.
You're obsessed with her andyou're obsessed with her
daughter.
Parker Posey in Screen Three.

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It's a it's a deep cut.
I just re-watched it recently.
Deep cut was intentional, yes.
I enjoyed the fucking shit outof that movie.
That movie, we did Cabin in theWoods recently on this program.
Solid movie.
Watching Scream 3 and that thefirst two movies, the way the

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first one subverts the genre andall sorts of tropes and things,
and the way the second movie iskind of honoring like all these
other horror films that it'staking off of, and yeah, yeah.
And the second one kind of doesa similar thing, but other
movies to a degree, and it feelslike artists and dialogue, which
is really cool.
And then the third one is thelike you greedy money-making

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fucks, I hate myself.
Is that the Timothy Olafon one?
Is that the college one?
The second one is the TimothyOlaf one, not to give it up, but
the killer uh spoiler alert, itit's cool about that one.
I don't know if you like thisabout it.
I want to hear is that hisreasoning is just that he's
fucking crazy.
Like, I'm just fucking crazy, Ijust want to kill people.
And I've I think that's the onlyone that there's been.

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I mean, it's good to have abackstory.
Did you like the fifth one withJack Quaid and Barrera?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I didn't mind that.
I think it's a really goodseries, like overall and
underrated series.

SPEAKER_08 (17:53):
And like six, I enjoyed six.
Like I liked I liked six.
I rewatched them after the fifthone came out.
So that was a couple years ago.
Yeah.
So they're all kind of in there,but also mixed together.
But except the first one, thefirst one stands alone.

SPEAKER_03 (18:08):
Agreed.

SPEAKER_08 (18:08):
Um, could not watch these as a kid.
No.
I saw Scream when I was 12 andhad nightmares for months.
No, Burrus, not.
I slept with a down comforterover my head in the heat of
summertime.
It was awful.

SPEAKER_03 (18:23):
I I saw the first one at the theater, I was like,
this I love this.
This ruin I'm sorry, Fonzi's inthis, this movie fucking ruins.

SPEAKER_08 (18:32):
Yeah, couldn't couldn't do horror uh when I was
powder wrecked me.

SPEAKER_04 (18:37):
Coco, cocoa, cocoa, cocaine, cocaine.

SPEAKER_03 (18:40):
Go on.

SPEAKER_08 (18:41):
I mean, the deer dies, brings it back to life,
but also he's bullied thisentire time, and then he gets
just like he finally like feelsat peace and then just like runs
because something else goeswrong, and then he gets just
zapped up by lightning and it'sgone.
And I was just like, uh, yeah,could not deal with like the
death side of things yet at thatage.
Okay.
So fucking wrecked me.

SPEAKER_03 (19:02):
It took me a long time to be okay with Nightmare
in Ohm Street was my thing.
I could not look at even a moviecover with Freddie Krueger on it
until I was in my teens.
Oh yeah.
But I was somehow okay withScream.
Oh yeah.
Not that I was in my teens, Iwas 70.
Shut up, you.

SPEAKER_08 (19:16):
Horror came into my life probably like college.
Good for you.
That's when it that's when itopened up for me.
Other than, you know, likeErnest scares stupid, which is
uh, you know, a classic.

SPEAKER_03 (19:25):
Are you the bugger man?
Who's the guy who was alwaystalking to?
Hey Vern! Was it Vern?

SPEAKER_08 (19:32):
Yeah, it's Vern.
The uh the monsters from thatmovie.
The little trolls, yes, theywere the leftover.
Oh, they're the leftover makeupuh uh from Killer Clowns.
Great.
Love that movie.
I'm fairly certain.
Love that movie too.
It's the same prosthetic.

SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
I bet the face shape is probably the same.

SPEAKER_08 (19:50):
They use the same molds to make the the trolls out
from and they're like you canyou can tell by like just the
the heights and the thecharacter, the the weird trolls
that you meet with Ernest andstuff.
And I was like, I saw thatrecently, I was like, and I put
it together, I was like, oh mygod.

SPEAKER_03 (20:03):
This is a cool thing.
You told me recently, back toyour thing for a moment, that
the cryptkeeper's eyes andChucky's eyes are the same.
Yeah, also they reused them.
Courtney Cox's bangs in Scream 3are the same ones from Psycho
Hillbilly Human Eater number twoin Last House on the left.
Burris.
Wow, few people know that.

SPEAKER_08 (20:22):
I'm surprised you knew that.
Let's get to the facts.
Good on you.

SPEAKER_04 (20:28):
Archaeology is the search for facts.
Go.

SPEAKER_08 (20:37):
All right.
Twins is a universal picture.
It is rated PG, uh, released in1988.
It is an hour and 47 minuteslong.
Uh the budget for this movie was15 million, uh, which would
adjust it would be 41 milliontoday.
Um opening weekend was December9th, 1988.

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11.1 million dollar uh openingweekend.

SPEAKER_03 (21:03):
Illuminati.

SPEAKER_08 (21:06):
But adjusted is 30.4 million and not so Illuminati.
Not so fun.
Well, we can get it back.
Okay.
The final growth in NorthAmerica was 111 million.

unknown (21:18):
What?

SPEAKER_08 (21:19):
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (21:20):
No! Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (21:21):
Is that real?
It is real.
Oh my goodness.
Adjusted is 307.2 million.
And the uh final gross worldwidewas 216.6 million dollars.
And adjusted is a whopping 594.7million dollars.

SPEAKER_03 (21:37):
Burris, true or false on every single one of
these, that's just entirely toomuch money.

SPEAKER_08 (21:48):
Yes.
15 million, like a budget of 15million in 1988, and no special
effects.
To get those two guys, it allwent to them.

SPEAKER_03 (21:58):
There is one, I mean, that has to be a special
effect.
I hope I'll remember this, myweed addled brain.
But there is one effect in thismovie that I'm like, damn, that
I really liked.
Okay.
But I don't know how special itwas, really.
It's probably super easy, andI'm just lame as shit.

SPEAKER_08 (22:13):
I think I know what you're talking about, and I
can't wait for you to bring itup.

SPEAKER_03 (22:16):
I'm excited.

SPEAKER_08 (22:17):
Yeah.
Okay, let's see.
What other releases were thatweekend?
Well, I'll tell you.
It was uh My Stepmother is anAlien.
Another class.

SPEAKER_03 (22:26):
Another horny movie, though.
Oh man.
Very horny movie.
Rocky horror picture show EarthGirls Are Easy.
This movie, My Stepmother is anAlien, which we will eventually
do.
We'll get all the horny alienmovies.
How is Twins Alien?
I don't know, but there's justsomething not right about the
whole thing.

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Something unnatural about it.

SPEAKER_08 (22:53):
Um, the the the weekend top five was uh this
movie, The Naked Gun from theFiles of Police Squad.
That's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 (23:00):
Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_08 (23:01):
Oh shit, really?
Scrooged.
Love Scrooged.

SPEAKER_03 (23:04):
Um listen to our Scrooged episode.
Nothing bad.
Tequila Sunrise.

SPEAKER_08 (23:08):
Oh shit, Oliver and Company.
Hell yeah, dog.
That's yeah, that's a that's agood weekend.
That's uh that's a that's a goodmovie weekend.
1988.
Way to go, 1988.
Right?
Special shout-out to 1988.
Other films from 1988.
Speaking of 1988, did I mentionLittle Nikita Vibes?

(23:31):
Critters 2, the main course.

unknown (23:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (23:35):
Um White Mischief.
Haven't heard of that film.
Nope.
I missed that.
I don't like this Dead Heat.
Nuts.
Hot to Trot and a classic, Macand Me.

SPEAKER_03 (23:52):
We see we finished strong there though.
We got Dead Heat, Nuts, and Macand Me.

SPEAKER_08 (23:58):
I always appe appreciate Paul Rudd on talk
shows that brings up a clip andit's just Mac and Me.
Poor Conan.
Oh man.
It happens.
Poor Conan.
Oh, it's so good.
What a what a great like joke.

SPEAKER_03 (24:10):
One of the great recurring jokes of all time.
Maybe who knows if it's thegreatest.
I think we could be experts onthat.
Depending on who you ask.
Yes.
I think we're depending onwhich.
We know what we're talking aboutwith recurring jokes, people.

SPEAKER_08 (24:21):
Depending on where you look on Reddit.

SPEAKER_04 (24:22):
You're already thinking it's kids.

SPEAKER_08 (24:26):
It was insane.

SPEAKER_04 (24:30):
Insane.

SPEAKER_08 (24:32):
Uh the letterboxed average for this movie is three.

SPEAKER_03 (24:37):
Like three on the button.

SPEAKER_08 (24:38):
Yeah, three on button.
I was gonna say three pointzero, but I thought I'd just I'd
just No, that was good.
Use the syllables that I thenjust used to explain it because
I'm now explaining too much.
Uh hey, what's your um what'syour letterboxed at Paul Ax
Badly?

SPEAKER_03 (24:55):
What's yours?

SPEAKER_08 (24:55):
Uh mine is at Ben DoneBefore.
Follow us, see what we rateother movies, and know all the
things we're watching.
I haven't done a lot on there,I'm not gonna lie.
But um, every once in a whileI'll go on and like try to like
catch up.
I'll teach you.
Okay, teach me your ways.

SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
The the way it drives is kind of difficult
sometimes, right?
Or it's like the user interface.

SPEAKER_08 (25:17):
Yeah, and like searching for a film and then
like rating it, like saying thatyou want to see it, but then it
says like that means it puts itin like your C pile sometimes.
I'm like, and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:27):
I sat with that thing for like three days, like
figuring it out, and got anunhealthy obsession with it.
But it took me it was I amaware.
It all was almost like masteringa Mario game.

SPEAKER_08 (25:43):
Repetition, repetition, repetition and a
game guide.

SPEAKER_03 (25:47):
Repetition.
Again, experts of repetition.

SPEAKER_08 (25:51):
Tiscal and Ebert gave this movie two thumbs up.
Has a rotten tomato score ofcritics is uh 42 and audience of
40.
Whoa.
It has a higher critic ratingthan audience rating.

SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
And that's pretty this is a two thumbs up movie
that equivalent today to todaymade half a billion dollars on
40 million, which also like uhthis I couldn't imagine that I
don't know, so many things aboutthis movie are confounding.

SPEAKER_08 (26:22):
And um yeah, Metacritic is um 50% with a 6.7
for users.
So it's flip-flopped of I guessRotten Tomatoes takes themselves
more seriously.
They're very prestigious.
We over here at Rotten.

SPEAKER_03 (26:40):
Yeah.
They are based in Denmark.
You got something there.

SPEAKER_08 (26:48):
Oh, well, fuck me, Rotten, and call me Denmark.
Oh, I almost missed it.

SPEAKER_03 (26:56):
I knew it was right there on the tip of your brain.
See it.
My name is Julius.
I'm your twin brother.
Where was it?
Ah, yes.

SPEAKER_08 (27:04):
Major award wins and nominations.
Uh Golden Globes nomination forbest original song.
Um This is your nightbow.

SPEAKER_03 (27:13):
It had to be that, right?
Tonight is your nightbow.
That's right.
Tonight is your name.
It had to be that, because italso won the Grammy for Greatest
Song Ever Made last year.
Danny DeVito accepted on behalfof Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_08 (27:29):
Oh, he was inducted into the uh Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame for that song.

SPEAKER_03 (27:32):
It's actually just now called the Danny DeVito
Tonight is your nightboro hallof fame.

SPEAKER_08 (27:37):
At your local um hard rock cafe.
Perfect.
Yeah.
And uh People's Choice winnerfor Best Comedy, and it tied
with big two movies about horny,horny fucking people.

SPEAKER_03 (27:51):
I mean, I think that was the 80s.
Can we be honest?
People are just horny though.
Like what's stop it with allthis non-horniness.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (28:00):
I mean, we just allowed ourselves to show it in
in movies.

SPEAKER_03 (28:05):
Because it's natural, it's human.
Come on, it's okay.
It's okay.

SPEAKER_08 (28:11):
Everybody fucks.
Well, not everybody.
I mean, like at a once youbecome at a certain age.
Not the young's, but they don'tlisten to that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, so yeah, uh, tell me, uh,what's the cast look like for
this?
Who who worked on this movie?
I'm gonna tell you a lot of thatquestion.

SPEAKER_03 (28:25):
I'm so glad I asked.
You won't be.
Oh.
Director of this film was IvanReitman.
Oh.
R.I.P.
Kindergarten cop.
We will do that on this pro.
I know it has a sequel withDolph Lungren, but you're not so
top without your car, are you?
Ghostbusters and Junior.

(28:46):
The look on your face.
Wasn't Danny the V doing thatone as well?
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (28:51):
They rejoined for this.

SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
And they bring in like Emma Thompson.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (28:55):
Like somebody very prestigious.
I mean, that should have been adirect sequel to Twins just
going off of that Arnold,because he's supposed to be
incredible.
So he's been working withdoctors on an island.
Absolutely.
And like then he became adoctor, he like became a
scientist and then impregnatedhimself.
And it's just that storycontinuing.

SPEAKER_03 (29:13):
That is probably we're gonna talk about twins.

SPEAKER_08 (29:17):
That's that is that is a movie, and they they should
have just connected those two.
So shake my hand again.

SPEAKER_03 (29:24):
Okay, well done.
Quite clanny.
My hand, not yours.
Writers of this film.
William Davies flushed away,William Osborne, the real McCoy,
Timothy Harris, Brewster'sMillions, and Herschel Weingrad,
Trading Places.
Okay, especially in terms oftrading places and Brewster's

(29:46):
Millions.
Like there's so many things thatcross over with this movie that
these gents have worked on.
Director of photography of thisfilm was Andre Bartoviak,
Guiltiest In Speed.
Listen to our speed episode withChristopher Morrison.
Anyway, talk like David Carusoin Twins.

(30:07):
But uh Jade was what he was thedirector of photography of,
which also starred David Caruso.
Music was Randy Edelman, who diduh the score for what I think is
arguably the best score of alltime.
The Last of the Mohicans.
Ridiculous.
And the his resume is wild.

(30:29):
There was a second person whoapparently worked on the score
of this movie.
Georges Deleu Deleu?
Deleu.
The Day of the Dolphin.
Do you know what that movie'sabout?

SPEAKER_08 (30:43):
Uh Dolph Lundgren?
Um he uh uh like uh The LittleMermaid, and but he was a
dolphin, and um and then he madethis uh deal with someone to be
able to go online and he turnedinto Dolph Lundgren.
And that's and then got a uh acareer in uh in uh movies.

SPEAKER_03 (31:04):
This is maybe the only plot better than what you
just pitched.
It is a movie starring George C.
Scott trying to stop a plot touh get a dolphin to assassinate
the president.
Oh, did not see that coming.
Did not see that coming.
Producers of this movie wereIvan Reitman Stop, or my mom

(31:26):
will shoot a movie thatSchwarzenegger tricked Stallone
into doing.

SPEAKER_08 (31:30):
So the president must like go out for ocean
swimming a lot.

SPEAKER_03 (31:33):
I haven't seen the movie.

SPEAKER_08 (31:34):
I'm not stuck yet.
I'm just stuck on this.

SPEAKER_03 (31:35):
I was he gonna like do be in involved with something
at SeaWorld, maybe?

SPEAKER_08 (31:39):
Or was it gonna be like uh you know, sharks with
lasers on there?
You know, was it that withdolphins with lasers?

SPEAKER_03 (31:47):
Because otherwise, how did we get to that point?
Did they know he was gonna bevisiting the the place the
dolphin was?
I have a lot of questions.
We may have to watch this movie.
Joe Medjuk produced Dave, amovie that apparently is very,
very good and charming that Ishould re-watch for the first
time since I was but only 690.

(32:11):
I don't know why why do I knowthis movie?
It's Kevin Klein takes over forthe president because he's like
a look-alack.
And it's Sigorni.
Apparently it's super fuckingcharming.
I remember that being fun.
Michael C.
Gross, R.A.P.
Ghostbusters 2 with the peacesign, and several other
producers.

(32:31):
Uh, the famous comedian AmulBraunschwago plays Julius the
Long Goodbye.
He has the little yellow undiesin that one.
Stay hungry and Maggie.
Danny DeVito plays Vincent theRainmaker, War of the Roses, uh,
quite an accomplished directorhimself, directed that film, and
Jewel of the Nile.
Kelly Preston, R.I.P., playsMarnie, Jerry Maguire for Love

(32:55):
of the Game, and Sky High.
Chloe Webb plays Linda, Sid andNancy, Practical Magic, a movie
we almost did for spooky season.
We were so close I had to watchit.
It was so, so awful.

SPEAKER_08 (33:06):
Uh Chloe Webb plays Nancy, right?
Is that am I in Practical Magic?
No, in Sid and Nancy.
Oh, she does.
Okay.
I was like, I was like,practical magic.
I was watching this movie.
Why do I know this person?
I was like, and you said Sid andI was like, oh, that's it.
That's it.
Sorry, everything just clicked.

SPEAKER_03 (33:22):
Don't apologize.

SPEAKER_08 (33:23):
Everything just clicked for me.

SPEAKER_03 (33:24):
I love when things just click.
She was also in She's So Lovely,because isn't she?
Bonnie Bartlett was Marianne.
Francis Shiloh, the Grass Harp.
Marshall Bell was Webster.
Nightmare in Elm Street 2,Freddy's Revenge.
Yes, that one.
Total Recall and Stand By Me.
Trey Wilson, R.I.P.

(33:46):
was Beat Root.
I almost rated this movie onbeatroots because that's what I
always be doing.
I beat root.
That's what I do.
Every chance I get, I'm verysore.

SPEAKER_08 (33:58):
But I can see how you got those guns.

SPEAKER_03 (34:01):
Bull Durham Raising Arizona, a soldier story.
David Caruso was Al, King of NewYork, First Blood, Session 9.
And if you when you're talkingto a lady, you talk like David
Caruso in Jade.
Hugh O'Brien was Granger, Gameof Death, The Shootest, Love Has
Many Faces.

(34:22):
Tony J, R.I.P.
was Werner.
Time Bandits, Beauty and theBeast, the Disney animated
version, and Love and Death.
Burris, I'm dragging us down.
I'm dragging us down, man.

SPEAKER_08 (34:33):
Well, I have to make a public apology.
Oh.
Um, because I referred tosomething earlier as fun facts.
I mean, I thought they were fun,but apparently those are just
facts.

SPEAKER_03 (34:42):
I think we've made them more fun.
I think you were making themmore fun in the first half.
Okay.
But I need you to I need you totalk about it.

SPEAKER_08 (34:49):
But now is actually the uh now is the real fun
facts.
Now you get to hear the song.
Ladies and gentlemen, fun facts.

SPEAKER_01 (34:57):
Fun facts, fun facts, everybody.
It's fun fact time.

SPEAKER_08 (35:02):
I just realized we're not going to listen to the
song.
We're not.
Um, okay.
Uh we can if you really want to.
Ah, I'll just listen to it whenI when I listen to this.
I just mute all of my parts andlisten to you every and the
songs.
That's what I do.
Okay.
Good.
We're the same weird.
Universal Pictures saw thismovie as a risk, uh, mostly
because of Schwarzeneggerco-leading a comedy.

(35:23):
Jokes on this.

SPEAKER_03 (35:25):
Is this his like first comedy?
I think so.
Yeah.
And he's got comedic chops, Ithink.
Schwarzenegger's an okay actor.

SPEAKER_08 (35:33):
And uh which is why they only put up a$15 million
budget.
So that's why we have a$15,still, I think too high.

SPEAKER_03 (35:39):
It doesn't.
If I look at this in today'sstandards, I I don't see$40 plus
million dollars up there.
And I understand the the bigthing of why this was so cheap
is I think between those twoguys, this movie should have
cost like forty, thirty-five orforty million dollars in 1980
money.

SPEAKER_08 (35:58):
Interesting.
Schwartzenager and uh DeVito anddirector Ivan Reitman uh
mutually decided to agree to 40%of the gross profits split
evenly rather than their highupfront salaries.
Oh, majority of that the 50million didn't go to the them.
That's interesting.
Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 (36:17):
But I guess they made the right choice because
this movie nowadays would havemade half a well considerably
yeah, considering now you'rethey got essentially a piece of
a pie that is equivalent to fourover four hundred and fifty
million dollars.
I don't know, crazy amounts ofmoney.

SPEAKER_08 (36:34):
Yeah, and it took in 260 million worldwide.
Awesome money.
Um the end result was uh allthree earning the largest and
close to the largest paychecksof their careers, which is
incredible.

SPEAKER_03 (36:49):
Considering who those guys and what they've
done.

SPEAKER_08 (36:52):
And they just it was just them negotiating uh quite
the deal.
Smartly.
Yeah.
Like they bet on themselves andit worked.
Let's see.
Almud uh Schwarzenegger andDanny DeVito uh and current
racist skeleton, Terry Hulkan,have all revealed in interviews
that Schwarzenegger and DeVitowere given the option of doing
this movie or Suburban Commando.

(37:17):
I think they made the rightchoice.
But I do want to see thatalternate world where Danny
DeVito and Schwarzenegger starin Suburban Commando.
Oh my god, yes.
The whole turn I movie.

SPEAKER_03 (37:30):
I want I want Schwarzenegger to play the
Christopher Lloyd role and DannyDeVito to play the alien.
That's what I want.

SPEAKER_08 (37:39):
But if they had done that movie, that means who would
be the twins in this?
Well, I'll tell you the perfectmatchup.
All right.
It's it's Terry Hogan, you know,uh racist dirt meatbeg.
Um and uh and Christopher Lloyd.

SPEAKER_03 (37:55):
Oh, so they were just gonna flip.
The suburban commando guys weregonna be the twins, and the
twins guys were gonna be thesure, sure.
Yeah.
But Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_08 (38:04):
But I would love to see, I mean Christopher Lloyd
and Danny DeVito's part, though,and twins would have been so
different.

SPEAKER_03 (38:14):
Oh, I would have been super into that.

SPEAKER_08 (38:16):
I think I I think we all know what the the Hogan
version would be.

SPEAKER_03 (38:20):
Hogan and Schwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_08 (38:22):
No, Hogan as Schwarzenegger's role.

SPEAKER_03 (38:25):
Imagine it as Hogan and Schwarzenegger in twins or
Schwarzenegger and Lloyd.
The way to to mix and matchthese guys in these two movies
feels endless.

SPEAKER_08 (38:36):
That's a great shuffle.

SPEAKER_03 (38:38):
Yeah.
I think we ended up the with thebest possible version of twins
that we could.

SPEAKER_08 (38:43):
Yes, I agree.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
Christopher Lloyd would be aninteresting.
I would love to see the I wouldlove to see him read for it.
You know, like one of those SNLskits where like the uh the fake
auditions and stuff.
With Bill Hayter.
Yeah.
And just have Christopher Lloyddo it.

SPEAKER_05 (38:57):
Yeah, Malinolda.

SPEAKER_04 (38:59):
Son Eurigo's writing Shakespeare Body can't care.

SPEAKER_08 (39:04):
There was a sequel to this movie called Triplets
that was uh conceived bySchwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_03 (39:11):
Didn't they do that in Junior though?

SPEAKER_08 (39:13):
That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 (39:14):
He was the one who conceived.
Oh, hey.
I mean, I God, your your sequelidea is so much better than
this.
I know, keep going.

SPEAKER_08 (39:22):
I know, I have great ideas.
In in junior, the baby couldhave been Eddie Murphy, who
would have played the triplet inthis movie.
I think I just took that one twocogs.
But it feels like, you know, ifthis movie was made during like
the nutty professor era, like orlike junior time, you know, like

(39:45):
that.
Yeah.
And then like it's just EddieMurphy as a baby.
And so you shoot him separately,like in baby prosthetics.
So he's like, he's got like aPudgy Army.

SPEAKER_03 (39:52):
Look who's talking now, right?
Yeah.
And then like what a Luku istalking as well.

SPEAKER_08 (39:58):
What what a what a thing.

SPEAKER_03 (40:02):
Good tabs and noodles out.
The image in my head isterrifying.

SPEAKER_08 (40:05):
I've gone down a very bad record.

SPEAKER_03 (40:07):
I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_08 (40:08):
Uh but uh uh the project went uh triplets, went
through various stages ofdevelopment uh between I did not
realize it was this long, 2003and 2020, uh before it was just
put on the shelf.

SPEAKER_03 (40:25):
Yeah, and apparently like it was on and off and on
and off and on and off.

SPEAKER_08 (40:29):
I could also see this is going into spoilers for
the movie.
I could see another uh versionof this where it's uh because
the end of the movie they bothhave a set of twins.

SPEAKER_03 (40:39):
Happy ending.

SPEAKER_08 (40:40):
Yeah.
So the movie could be that thesequel's twins squared, you
know, and it's following thekids of Arnold Swordsneger and
Danny DeVito.
And that could be, let's see,Danny DeVito's side, could be
Charlie Day and um Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 (40:56):
Uh I can't get this made Burris.

SPEAKER_08 (40:58):
Uh I I already know it's gonna be good.
Um shoot, what's his name fromNew Girl?
Jake Johnson?
Yeah.
So it'll be Jake Johnson andCharlie Day, and then the age
doesn't make sense, but itdoesn't matter.
John C.
Riley and Will Farrell areSchwarzenegger's kids.

SPEAKER_03 (41:16):
None of it matters, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (41:17):
What a duo.
And just and then meet them thekids of Schwarzenegger.
Arnold Schwarzenegger revealedlater on that while taking a
break from filming uh duringlunch, Danny DeVito offered him
a cigar.
And you know, Schwarzenegger isyou always see him with a cigar
in hand or just like in hismouth that's like.

(41:42):
And uh and but he didn't know itwas laced with marijuana.
Oh and uh by the time they gotback to finishing the scene, he
had forgotten his lines.

SPEAKER_03 (41:52):
No shit.

SPEAKER_08 (41:54):
Of course.
The thing is though, there aremany moments in this film where
I could see that having takenplace.
So now, like, there's there's abunch of moments in this movie
where it's like, think, I thinkhe forgot what to say here.

SPEAKER_03 (42:07):
Oh, really?
Okay.
So I see it as him taking likemoments.
I I it's weird.
I don't think he's a bad actor,and I don't disagree with what
you're saying because I can seeit that way too.
But I see it him almost as likeJulius is taking a moment to
consider him.
Oh, yeah.
And a lot of people like that.
I want to give him some creditas an actor.
There were a couple that werejust like and I'm sure you're

(42:30):
right.
I'm sure you're right.

SPEAKER_08 (42:31):
But I love uh yeah, I mean, I love that he's like
just like this complete innocentin being dropped into the city
and like not knowing much ofanything about how Stranger,
Strange Land.
Yeah, yeah.
And you know, and just the thewide smile, just wow, they do
him like that.
Do they really dress like this?

SPEAKER_03 (42:50):
What this happened?
It wasn't me, it was thepavement.
What books do they have on thatisland?
I have so many questions.

SPEAKER_08 (42:59):
Only like martial arts and science, but not
reproductive science.

SPEAKER_03 (43:09):
Oh, we forgot our lines apparently.

SPEAKER_08 (43:13):
Uh oh, and famously the idea for this film and its
cast was hastily conceived in aHollywood bathroom after the
writer's initial pitch to anexecutive for an unrelated
project that had failed.

SPEAKER_03 (43:29):
I think this is wrong.
Okay.
I think it was it was hastilyconceived on this podcast, but
just a few minutes ago.
And I think that's what actuallyAnd that's uh Arnold
Schwarzenegger now clapping backin time.

SPEAKER_05 (43:43):
Arnold Schwarzenegger running us up to
us on the screen here.
Yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_03 (43:51):
This podcast episode is brought to you by books.
Any books you want, any booksyou can think of, as long as
they don't have anything to dowith reproduction or people
liking other people or shit likethat.
No.
Burn out.
We're not into that.
No.
Get rid of that.
Yeah.
We are going to just tell youthe log line to this movie,
because Ben's not here.
What the fuck is he gonna do?

(44:12):
So he knows we're close togetting those Cinephile cards.
He knows we're close.
We almost had them on Sunday.
So close.
Uh, Burris, if you would be sokind.

SPEAKER_08 (44:21):
Yes.
A physically perfect butinnocent man goes in search of
his long-lost twin brother, whoturns out to be a short,
womanizing, small time crook.

SPEAKER_03 (44:33):
I got I have to admit the casting of the two is
is pretty fucking genius.
I'm pretty sure the log linecame out after they cast this.
That's why you got to casting soquick.
By the way, I love how theyrefer to him as genetically
perfect and Burris.
I see perfection for you now.
Same smile as Schwarzeneggerwith the gap and the sharper

(44:54):
canines, and yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
Schwarzenegger and JasonBateman.
When you have this, you noticethis.
Uh again, this episode isbrought to you by books, but not
the kind that like that we wantpeople reading.
And let's never leave out PaulShear.
I get it.
I see what you're doing here.
Alright, everybody, we'll beback.

(45:20):
Wow.
We're back from break.
You have to read all thosebooks.
Many books.
Just a crazy, crazy amount of alot of them had cool shapes and
colors and neat characters.

SPEAKER_08 (45:34):
And you had to like find yeah, I like the one where
you gotta like find the guy inthe crowd.

SPEAKER_03 (45:39):
Right.
That those are good.
I like the colors of those.

SPEAKER_08 (45:42):
Did you feel like anything was missing?
Well, I really wanted a bookthat would just like, you know,
penetrate me.

SPEAKER_03 (45:48):
Yeah?

SPEAKER_08 (45:48):
And I didn't I didn't really find that.
Like books about people fucking?
No, I I mean, I mean, if youwant to take it there.

SPEAKER_03 (45:54):
Okay.
People just loving other people.
People loving people.

SPEAKER_08 (45:57):
I yeah, and yeah, and fucking.
But yeah.
But there wasn't any.

SPEAKER_03 (46:01):
I felt like that too.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I did love no romancenovels.

SPEAKER_08 (46:05):
No, either.
Not nothing like that.
We got no like fourth wings inthat in that stack of books.

SPEAKER_03 (46:09):
Oh, wow.
All right.
I also found out that it's theBarn Stan Bears, or at least
that's the way that they wantthere's no Bernstein or Stein.

SPEAKER_08 (46:20):
There's no Barnstein or Bernstein.
But now it's Barnstein.
It's Barn Stan.
Barn Stan?
Did I just jump to another?
I how many times do I gottajump?

SPEAKER_04 (46:32):
Oh Ziggy.
Pull me out of here, Ziggy.

SPEAKER_03 (46:35):
Here we are.
We're here.
Ben, we almost had them onSunday.
The Cinephile cards.
We were so close.
We'll see you soon.

SPEAKER_02 (46:46):
I can't believe you've done this.

SPEAKER_03 (46:48):
I can't believe it's not butter.
That's how I did those scrambyeggs.
That's not true.
I always use real butter butter.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
I don't want to.
Paul's recipe corner is aserious thing.
People tune into this program tohear about Paul's recipe corner.

SPEAKER_08 (47:01):
About your butter.

SPEAKER_03 (47:03):
Do you turn your own?
No, I don't turn my own.
Do you want to use an actor fromthis movie?
Or do you want to name an actorthat you like?
Or can just try to do it?
No, no, we don't have to.
I'm just pitching it.
I can cut this.

SPEAKER_08 (47:15):
No.

SPEAKER_03 (47:16):
Okay.
Okay.
You can be like, no, you knowwhat?
I do want to play.
However you want to play this.

SPEAKER_08 (47:21):
I do.
I do, I do, I do.
Okay.
Um, just trying to pick anactor.
Sure.

SPEAKER_03 (47:30):
I'll pick an actor from a movie we've done that is
close to your heart for multiplereasons if you don't pick one
within five seconds.

SPEAKER_08 (47:38):
Okay.
Um, let's do um what we talkedabout earlier.

SPEAKER_03 (47:41):
Let's do let's do uh let's do Mac and me's uh Paul
Rudd.
Okay, Paul Rudd.
And you can have the freebie.
You get the first movie.
I think that's all means that.

SPEAKER_08 (47:48):
Oh, I'm gonna fail at this so bad.

SPEAKER_03 (47:50):
I just I just know.
I always I always come in withthat attitude is not like I want
you to feel like you can everyself never at this game.

SPEAKER_08 (47:58):
I always just end up drawing a blanket.
I picked it.
Do you want me to go for the redhot American Summer?
Good pull.
Clueless bitch.

SPEAKER_03 (48:08):
Ant-Man.
Ant-Man and the Wasp.
Ant-Man quantum.
The Avengers Civil War.
Avengers endgame.
The Avengers Infinity War.

SPEAKER_08 (48:26):
Um I think we exhausted the game.
Well now we've gotten that outof the way.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, is it still it's my turnnow.
It is.
Shut up.
That went the wrong way.
Okay.
Um uh it's um it's he um uh uh40 something.
This is 40.
This is 40 something.

SPEAKER_03 (48:42):
I know what you're talking about.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I know what you're talkingabout.
Halloween six, the curse ofMichael Myers.

SPEAKER_08 (48:55):
Uh um what is the name of this?

SPEAKER_03 (49:00):
I can't let you gesture forever.
I'm gonna take it if you keepgesturing.
Is that your pee-pee?
The slap at the best.

SPEAKER_08 (49:09):
The 40-year-old virgin.
No, that's not no, no, no,that's not the one I'm thinking
about.

SPEAKER_03 (49:13):
Oh.
But yes.
I love you, man.

SPEAKER_08 (49:15):
I love you, man.
There we go.
Okay.
Well, you gestured too much.
I know.

SPEAKER_03 (49:19):
Slap at a base.
And I was like, that's my dog onMar Sadat.

SPEAKER_08 (49:23):
Oh, it's Anchorman, is Anchorman too.

SPEAKER_03 (49:25):
I'm now after I lose.
You picked a good actor.
Like, I thought we had a prettygood round.
This is the thing when actors dothings like Marvel movies.
I think those of us that playthis game, we get slogged by the
is that person in that Marvelmovie?
Is that person in that Star Warsmovie?
Is that person it's hard todiscern.

SPEAKER_08 (49:46):
And then you go through, and then you're only
thinking about that, and youforget about everything else.
And then because I was like, oh.
He did the uh Nintendocommercial, the Super Nintendo
commercial that they rightsomewhere there's a story about
him cutting his hair during theclueless auditions.

SPEAKER_03 (50:04):
I'm almost sure of it.

SPEAKER_08 (50:05):
And then like long hair, and then they cut it, and
he was like, Oh, oh, looks likehe needs to look like a lawsuit.
Nobody told me to hold like tokeep it, so I cut it for this
thing, and but I don't rememberwhat that thing was.
It's a great story.
I'm really good at tellingstories.

SPEAKER_03 (50:19):
I noticed.
Uh, which is so apropos.
What is your story of thismovie?
Had you seen it before?
How much have you seen it?
Where are we now?

SPEAKER_08 (50:28):
Tell me, tell me about your journey.
Um, I saw it as a kid, and Iprobably watched it like on
Laserdisc or something, youknow?
Something ridiculous like that.
Um, I don't I can't tell you thelast time I did watch it, but I
could reference this movie myentire life, you know.
Also, like just like themwearing the suits in general,

(50:49):
that on its own is a good thing.
It's like omnipresent.
It's just there.
It was yeah, it was just it'ssomething that's kind of like
always existed.

SPEAKER_03 (50:57):
Okay.
Have you always felt like it waspretty good?
Like, did you love it as a kid?
Or how do you remember?

SPEAKER_08 (51:01):
I remember it being like, yeah, this is like this is
a good like comedy, you know?

SPEAKER_03 (51:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (51:05):
Like this is of that time, like where all these like
cool buddy comedies are comingout and stuff.
And it was like, yeah, it's likethat was like a you know, oh
yeah, twint, twint.

SPEAKER_03 (51:16):
And you watched this recently.

SPEAKER_08 (51:20):
Oh yeah, I watched it yesterday.
Okay.
And I and then I watched alittle bit more just going back
through it this morning.

SPEAKER_03 (51:26):
Oh, so you kind of watched it one point something,
one point two two twent?
One point one how many not alot.

SPEAKER_08 (51:37):
I didn't I didn't.
You watched it one time and thenI'll just.
And I just checked in a littlebit more.
1.22?
Yes.
Okay.
I'll give that to you.
I was like, let me just go backand just like re-catch up on
this.
Because I watched it late lasttime.
I was like, well, I just want tosee this part again.
Okay.
Just to refresh yourself.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (51:55):
Just like jump through it and for a part of me
was like you that you wanted torelive certain moments, but it
was more about it.

SPEAKER_08 (52:01):
You want to make sure it was like kind of fresh,
which you know, who knows ifthat'll actually happen.
But I tried.
At least I tried.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I can say that.

SPEAKER_03 (52:09):
Yeah, we'll talk when I'm editing.
But for now.

SPEAKER_08 (52:13):
This episode just becomes a solo episode with just
you.

SPEAKER_03 (52:17):
Just me talking to the Billy Zane drum of a.

SPEAKER_08 (52:19):
Uh-huh.
Wait, is it drum effect?
I thought what are you trying totell me?

SPEAKER_03 (52:29):
Nothing.
Nothing.
Okay.
We're not ready to shatter burstthis reality yet, listener.

SPEAKER_08 (52:43):
I can still hear you.
Now I see you laughing at me.
I have eyes and ears.
I have feelings.

SPEAKER_03 (52:53):
He's right.
What have I done?

SPEAKER_08 (52:56):
You've penetrated my heart in the worst of ways.

SPEAKER_03 (52:59):
Wait, I didn't see anything about this in any of
the books.
Or wait, are you talking aboutlike a tongue?
Like what happens to Breaker?
That's the worst way to get yourheart penetrated.
Oh.
Remember?
No.
Demon Knight.
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
You blanked that out of yourmind.

SPEAKER_08 (53:21):
Except character names.

SPEAKER_03 (53:22):
I'm like, I I should William Sadler, the great
character actor.
So you watched this last night alittle bit today.
Yeah.
And how are you feeling about itnow?

SPEAKER_08 (53:35):
What an interesting movie.

SPEAKER_03 (53:39):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (53:40):
It has a lot of different thematic elements.

SPEAKER_03 (53:42):
Doesn't it?

SPEAKER_08 (53:44):
And I forgot that the beginning was supposed to be
about um making like agenetically perfect child from
from uh with three with sixfathers.
Right.
And I was like, oh, we're off toa weird start.
And it was like, and then theyintroduced and it was and then

(54:07):
there was they introduced themother, and it was like, and she
was the father.
The child was like, oh, this isgetting weird.

SPEAKER_03 (54:14):
It's like vegetable jerked off in a petri dish to
make the Captain America stuff.
And then they put it into like ajoybook.

SPEAKER_08 (54:21):
And then they put it into like a potato masher that
glows blue.
To make the milkshake.

SPEAKER_03 (54:26):
And then and you're already in the weeds a little
bit.
So you feel weird about thismovie.

SPEAKER_08 (54:32):
I mean, it was just like, I don't remember this.
So, like, oh, what a what aninteresting way to start a film.

SPEAKER_03 (54:37):
For a PG movie, and we just did Poltergeist, which
is also a PG movie somehow.
For a PG movie, not only is thismovie horny, this movie is all
about the science ofreproduction.
Yes, I don't, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08 (54:50):
I haven't read a book.
I don't I don't know.
I haven't read much.
There were no access to those.
No.
I I mean they didn't they didn'tshow the stork come by.

SPEAKER_03 (54:59):
No, but but it does have very adult themes.
Like it's a very adult.
Everyone in this movie holds agun except Arnold
Schwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_08 (55:06):
But like present day, like that whole sequence is
like, oh, it's a littleuncomfortable.

SPEAKER_03 (55:10):
It's the movies that were PG in the 80s, it's uh it's
kind of wild.

SPEAKER_08 (55:15):
And especially when you consider the people who were
involved in those movies thatyou know and then you know, and
then find out they say, like,oh, and the mother died in
childbirth before, but then theydidn't know that there was a
twin.
And then you know you've gotlike you've got baby
Schwarzenegger and baby DeVito,and then DeVito like kicks
Schwarzenegger's leg and likeare you super down on this then?
What's your current no?

(55:36):
I just it was just a weird wayto start.
It just like caught me off guardabout how this movie begins.

SPEAKER_03 (55:40):
So you're basically on a weird journey, like it's a
strange journey.
You feel like ArnoldSchwarzenegger does.
I you have to you do have torate this movie.
I know.
I will.
I I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_08 (55:51):
I like I enjoyed it.
I was just like, it was justlike, oh, it's not how I thought
I remembered it starting.
Sure.
That makes sense if I saw when Iwas a kid, so I probably just
went out of my head completely.

SPEAKER_03 (56:02):
So it's like the beginning is like a an entire
movie made for streaming thesedays.

SPEAKER_08 (56:06):
And then it's and then it's like all about you
know finding your family.
I adore it.
And then it goes on this weirdheist journey that turns into a
road trip with a love story.
Well, and then back into a Iknow what the movie's about.

SPEAKER_04 (56:18):
I know.

SPEAKER_08 (56:18):
I'm just like, no, talk about it.
But I was saying, like, it has alot of different facets.
Like, there's a lot of differentfacets in this movie.
I agree with you.

SPEAKER_03 (56:24):
As I was watching, this has like these all these
beats are a very busy movie.
I have more notes on this moviethan I do on a lot of movies.
That's that's what I was tryingto say.
You can rate them you're in asafe place.
It's okay to like twins, bro.
It's alright.
It's alright.

SPEAKER_08 (56:38):
I mean, it's still enjoyable, and I mean it's it's
enjoyable, it's fun to watch,and it's their I love that their
chemistry is good.
Uh so I mean, I give it like umthree and a half carwhees.

SPEAKER_03 (56:54):
That's one of the really iconic parts of the
movie.
Did you see me do the two-wheelthing?
I can teach you.

SPEAKER_04 (57:01):
We don't like a wise ass.
Smart ass.
I can teach you.
I read the book.

SPEAKER_03 (57:07):
Apparently, the procreation part was no problem.
Book or no.
Me! Yeah, well, have what do youthink about this film?
When did you first see it?
Thank you for asking.
I want to say the first timethat I saw this movie, my mom
had rented it.
I was young, I was but only, itwas before I knew I had a twin,
so I must have been very young.

(57:29):
I remember liking this moviequite a bit in terms of being
just like massively entertained.
I for sure had a huge crush onKelly Preston.

SPEAKER_08 (57:37):
I thought you were gonna say Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_03 (57:39):
Do I have to say it?
Why do you invite always make mesay it?
Uh because you just just BecauseDanny DeVito is a gorgeous
sexual creature.
She shows gorgeous locks.
Oozes confidence.
Yeah, you can bite my nose off,Danny DeVito.
Fine with me.
Just the tip.
The tip of the nose.

SPEAKER_04 (57:58):
Leave the rest alone.
Bite your gotcha nose.

SPEAKER_03 (58:04):
Everybody on this program knows I do love a Danny
DeVito appearance, writing,directing, whatever.

SPEAKER_08 (58:10):
Oh, me too.

SPEAKER_03 (58:10):
Big Danny DeVito.
True Renaissance man.
Yeah, it was really well put.
Thank you.
Wow.
Yeah.
He is.
He is that.
This movie for me also has beenlike pretty omnipresent.
I've seen this movie probably adozen times or more in my life.
But I had not watched it forseveral years up until this
year.
One night I was very, verytired.
I had been doing much throughoutthe day.

(58:32):
I turned it on and by gum,wouldn't you know it?
I finished it.
And thought, what a charmingmovie.
I am exhausted.
I was already tired.
Why did I stay up and watch thiswhole movie?
As you had mentioned, it's sobusy.
There's so many plot lines,there's so much going on.

SPEAKER_08 (58:55):
It jumps like from genre or like you know, story
track to story track.
It's like, oh, what?
And then they're like, butthey're all like combining as
they're going.

SPEAKER_03 (59:02):
And I saw the movie Good Fortune recently, the movie
where Keanu Reeves is an angel,and Seth Nogan and Aziz Ansari
Body Swap.
Good.
And Kiki Palmer.
I liked it enough, like similarto this movie.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna givethese two movies, I think, the
same rating in the end.
We're gonna get there, Ipromise, pretty quickly.
How quickly, I don't know.

(59:23):
But as quickly as twins.
I watched this then.
I went to Mo Slice.
It's a cute movie, it's verycharming.
People like twins.
And watching this movie withanother person made me so
conscious of the way the moviestarts, like and the science of

(59:43):
the movie, like we were talkingabout, and the science of the
reproduction piece, and thenit's a PG movie.
And it's like, oh, this is a PGmovie because it's Reitman,
Schwarzenegger, and Davida.
That's the only reason thismovie is P.
This is like on the absoluteragged edge of PG.
I also Found this renewedreverence in terms of like the

(01:00:05):
lines and some of the moments.
Like you were talking about thetwo-wheel car thing and stuff.
And fucking A of Arnold SchrottSnegner isn't a really talented
comedic actor in terms oftiming.

unknown (01:00:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:19):
It doesn't hurt when you're working with Danny DeVito
or Pamela Hayden and uh thefolks in Kindergarten Cop and
some of the other comedies thathe's done.
Doesn't hurt.
But man, he's fucking charmingin this movie.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:34):
He can be very endearing.
And I think playing theinnocence, which is his whole
the whole character.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:40):
I'm a big dumb strong guy.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:44):
Living in a city or dating or anything.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:48):
Schwarzenegger has gotten pretty much.
I just know history and scienceand but not diad.
Science.
So I also just I find myselfstill very entertained by this
movie that I watched it lastnight.
So in the course of I'm gonnasay eight or nine months,
probably nine months.
Uh-huh.
You've watched a few times.

(01:01:09):
Nine months in the last year.
I've watched this movie threetimes.
Maybe like nine and a halfmonths.

SPEAKER_07 (01:01:17):
Nine and a half weeks.
Let's talk about that movie.
You want to talk aboutsecretary?
I want to talk about nine and ahalf weeks.
No.
So never solo.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:25):
That can be your solo episode.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:28):
Or always solo episodes.
Podcasters are sitting heremasturbating.
No, like actually.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:36):
I I'm just I'm just another just another beat root.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:42):
That's what I that's what I was gonna rate this
movie.
Beaten roots, beat beatingmyself, beaten root.
This is the major switch for mebetween the last viewing and
this viewing, and it was part ofwhat you hit on.
Too many premises, things that Ikind of knew, but also just like
holy fuck of some of it where Iguess I shouldn't be saying.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:07):
Don't talk about this in a PG movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:10):
Because yeah, probably have the hard cover.
I don't know.
I this is why I'm not with theMPAA, but I'm gonna move this
movie from a three and a half ofmy most recent viewing to a
three with a heart, which for memeans this movie personally to
me is a reviewable, enjoyablemovie, regardless of the level

(01:02:31):
of execution or quality offilmmaking.
I think it still works today.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:35):
It hasn't aged as well as I agree.
Oh, hello, hello, hi.
A cat just appeared in my lap.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:46):
Scared the crap out of me.
Less appeared and more demanded.
Sandcat doesn't fuck around.
Uh what did you rate this movieagain?
Remind the people when you'redone with your fucking heart
attack.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:59):
Uh I said uh three and a half.
I went over three and a halfbecause I was still endearing.
I know I have to just, you haveto just I had to go in.
I once I was like, okay, thismovie was is 80s, so I have to
go in knowing when it was madeand not come at it with a this
was made last week kind of kindof ideal.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:15):
So three and a half wheelies.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:18):
I'm going to go with the three milkshakes with a
heart.
Three DNA milkshakes.
Just a bunch of dudes jerkingoff into a petri dish trying to
make Captain America.
It's totally normal.
It's totally fine.
Hang out.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:32):
Yeah.
Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:36):
Hey, everybody, we're gonna get the movie!

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:45):
And now, a feature presentation.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:50):
So the voiceover, does it make it easier for you
walking through the beginning ofthis movie?
I mean, yes, because it's theonly thing that explains
anything.
I find the voice endearing too.
The voice actor is in a millionthings.
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_08 (01:04:05):
Very impalatable.
And it and it and it also soit's weird because it it it
makes it sound like at thebeginning, it's like, oh, is
this the father?
Because it kind of has it's avery similar like the dialect is
is not far off.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:18):
I know they're not the same, but the I mean he did
raise Schwarzenegger, though.
That guy with that diet thedialect, he's the guy who raised
him on the island.
Yeah.
So I mean that that adds up.
Like some of the detail-orientedstuff in this movie, uh, maybe
they go a little too in-depth.

SPEAKER_08 (01:04:35):
They penetrate a little too much maybe, maybe
just a little for a movie that'snot supposed to know much about
it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:42):
Well, and the movie's all uh I feel like the
movie is very upfront in thatit's all about the lies that we
keep within our families, likethe familial deceptions.
Some of these things arevoluntary, some of these things
are not.
Some of these things are basedon communication that we choose
or choose not to have.

SPEAKER_08 (01:05:01):
But I think the movie is asshole doctors who
just don't that too.
They've old desinformation.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:06):
Absolutely that too.
Which I love that they alsowe'll get into it.
Well, we're starting the movie.
We're ripping and roaring, and Ilike that we're already getting
into it as you're saying.
The whole thing whereeverybody's been told that
everybody died.
And even in the beginning of themovie, we're told by the
narrator, who is, I guess,unreliable, that the mother was

(01:05:29):
killed during childbirth.
By the way, probably becausethose babies were fucking huge.
Both of those babies, each ofthose babies was one Danny
Davito.
Those babies are massive.

SPEAKER_08 (01:05:44):
I mean, later on, I think I think I think I think
the doctor, the narrator doctor,at least, I think believed that
the mother died in childhoodbecause it seemed like only one
knew the truth.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:54):
Right.
Well, and it was all kind offit.
That's the mystery.
This is the thing that I wastrying to say about Good Fortune
that I missed earlier, asidefrom saying that I enjoyed it or
the similar rating.
There wasn't really a villain inGood Fortune, and that works in
its favor.
This movie has so many villains.

SPEAKER_08 (01:06:13):
Yeah, yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:14):
And it's too much.
Where it's like if they'reoverlapping at some point.
Oh my goodness.
So fucking we flash forward pastthe Captain America cocktail,
mom's dead, dad's dead, twobabies were born.

SPEAKER_08 (01:06:30):
To immediate uh adults, Arnold, like, I have a
twin.
Yeah.
And and then the voice was like,I didn't think he'd want to
leave the island.
And it's like, I gotta go findthem.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:40):
Do you think that one of those babies that was as
big as Danny DeVito that'sclaimed to have killed the
mother, maybe like if it werequoting kind of pinhead in a
soft way, it would be like, I'lltell you whole apart.
And that's how she died.
Those I can't get over how hugethose fucking babies are.

(01:07:05):
They're so big.

SPEAKER_08 (01:07:07):
Not newborn.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:09):
Not at all.
Not at all.
Those are fully trained actors.
Look who's acting now.
But Julius' daily life on theisland is kind of idyllic.

SPEAKER_08 (01:07:21):
Yeah, and he's like just working in with the
scientists doing science stuffand reading books.
But he's a virgin.
But and doesn't know what to do.
There's no books about that.
It's just such a strange island.
I kept waiting for like RicardoMontebomb to show up.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:42):
What?

SPEAKER_08 (01:07:42):
What's just like as he's like leaving the island,
just you see him just likewaving his tattoo.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:47):
His assistant.

unknown (01:07:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:49):
Fantasy island.
Yeah.
The South, the newer SouthParks.
Oh God.
So Arnold Schwarzenegger's like,wait, wait, I have a twin
brother.
I gotta bounce from this island.
Yeah.
And the scientist sees him off.
I do love the visual joke ofSchwarzenegger rowing that boat
so fast that it's out of thewater.

SPEAKER_08 (01:08:10):
Yes.
Oh, so quickly, yeah.
It's pretty so strong, and likethey make sure to tell you that
he's trained in all of themartial arts.
Right.
And that he can speak severalseven or eight languages.
Yeah.
But we never see him speak anyof those languages in the movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:24):
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Do we do we even see or hear himunderstand any of those
languages?

SPEAKER_08 (01:08:30):
No, I don't think anyone ever speaks a different
language at around him.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:34):
So it's really just to set up the fighting.

SPEAKER_08 (01:08:36):
Yeah.
So it was like he's smart andknows how to fight, but he's a
virgin.
And and completely innocent inthe ways of the modern world.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:47):
And city life and the flip is when that kind of
entry, like that prologue, thatshort bookend, starts the movie,
and then the movie really getsgoing after the titles and
Schwarzenegger.
And Danny DeVito sleeping withanother woman's wife.
Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_08 (01:09:04):
And he's just like a scumbag.
Like, ding dung, I gotta go.
And then stunt man Danny DeVitoclimbing out of a window, second
story window, and shimming downthe sub wall.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:14):
We love you, Danny.
Just absolutely scaling wallslike no other.
It's wonderful.
Spider-Man-esque.

SPEAKER_08 (01:09:22):
Always gotta acknowledge the stuntman of this
world.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:26):
Well, and he immediately he leaves from
cheating on some or leadingsomeone to cheat on their spouse
with him.
And then he's immediately hithitting on another random woman.
And then he picks up hisex-girlfriend.
Yeah, his ex on and offgirlfriend.
Whose sister's first line isdon't give him any money.

SPEAKER_09 (01:09:48):
You got it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:50):
And Danny DeVito is hiding in this.
Is it the random restaurant ordo the sisters work there?

SPEAKER_08 (01:09:55):
I think the sisters work there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:57):
Okay.
But we have to guess.

SPEAKER_08 (01:09:58):
Yes.
Yeah, I didn't get it until hewas like crouched down, and then
the other sister gets asked,like, oh, him?
No, I wouldn't let him in evenif he was crawling on all four,
you know, serve him and dumpslike food on like crumbs on him
and stuff like that.
Which I like.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:13):
Because he earns immediately that it's like this
guy is a piece of shit.
He is terrible.
And it's very nice that thesisters hide him from these
brothers he owes$20,000 to.
This is one of 15 differentfucking storylines in this
movie, by the way.
We've already gone through twoor three.
And Burris is already tie-tai.

(01:10:34):
So it may just be me and Sandcatwho caused his heart attack, by
the way.
And if you need to end upcalling the police, let them
know that Sandcat did it.
They won't believe you.
She's too charming and gorgeous.
She's I just I was tucked so farinto the table, so I didn't see
the cat.

SPEAKER_08 (01:10:48):
And I just like appeared like.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10:50):
Did you see her eyes?

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:52):
Yes, I was like, what?
Julius by this time now isflying to Los Angeles as Vincent
is running away from people heowes money, trying to find
money, parking tickets.
He's got no real job orwhatever, no real anything.

(01:11:13):
He's still not going to be ableto do that.

SPEAKER_08 (01:11:14):
And we learn even more like he's he's he's he's uh
stealing vehicles from the corpsuh he's surviving, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:21):
Long-term parking lot.
And he has got he's got somehomies that help him out.
But Julius is flying to LA, andhe it's the first time he's
heard like rock music.
Oh god.
And he he doesn't flirt withthis flight attendant, and
that's what like it seems likekind of charms her.
This is a nice little actingmoment, but it is also one of
the other moments is we'vealready had a couple in this

(01:11:42):
movie where Schwarzenegger likeleans over and he like checks
out the flight attendant, andthe music turns up and it's like
used for laughs, and it feelskind of like a John Hughes
movie.
And these are things that Ithink we don't necessarily
endorse anymore, necessarily.
But he is eating everything whenhe gets to Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_08 (01:12:03):
His yakada yak is hunting.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:05):
It's yakada yak.
You got the tag on the trash.

SPEAKER_08 (01:12:12):
I can't even think of the words, I can't even
understand him.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:15):
Yakada yak, don't talk back.
I sorry my full style.
It's like that was just musicalof you doing the song.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:23):
Yeah, how do you know the lyrics then?

SPEAKER_08 (01:12:24):
Oh, did they have a book of lyrics?
I thought this was poetry.
I did not know this was rock androll music.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:31):
They didn't teach you about fucking, but they
taught you about yakity yak.
And you didn't know that wasabout fucking.
Come on.
So I love in this montage ofSchwarzenegger's strange, uh,
strange person in a strangelanding, where he sees uh
Stallone's uh poster.
What a what a great call-out.

(01:12:53):
Like those two guys going aftereach other in the 80s and 90s is
so wonderful in Last Action Heroand other movies.
But when they when Vince andJulius cross paths during this
moment, oh, right.
And they're both scratchingtheir asses.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:09):
Yeah, outside of the the the Chinese theater.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:11):
Right.
This one moment is supposed toset up like, hey, now that
they're kind of close to eachother, they can find each other
always, just so you know.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:20):
And it's I think is that what that's trying to set
up?
I mean, they it they kind of goback where they revisit it
later, so it's but like thatthat twin sense, you know, and
also but it also shows how alikethey are.
Right.
Ah, yes, of course, of coursethey're related.
They both did they both scratchtheir bus at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:38):
Yeah, they came from the same Petri disc of Jerkov.
Oh boy, they're both the sameCaptain America.
So Vince steals cars and Juliusdefends his suitcase
accidentally.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:55):
Do they yeah, do people really well this stuff?

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:58):
And it's like, yeah, if if you if you're lucky, gross
and and I'm like, ah, yes, andthis is this was in the day and
age where like pit pocketersjust like rode motorcycles to
grab your stuff on HollywoodBoulevard, on the walk of fame.
It was a dangerous time.
I remember seeing just a rangeof like yeah, motorcycle bag
grabbers.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:18):
How satisfying is it though, that moment.

SPEAKER_08 (01:14:20):
Oh, it's great.
Oh, just I mean, you know, thecomedy of the yeah, the
motorcycle goes by and tries tograb a suitcase, and then he
just gets pulled right off thebike and slams onto the ground.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:32):
And Schwarzenegger's holding onto the suitcase the
entire time.
And the way that dude's skullcracks the pavement.
There are a couple shots in thismovie that I really like, and
this was one of them when themotorcycle comes through, it's
like, okay, this is an okaylittle action sequence, I guess.
And dude hits the pavement, theshot of the bug's eye view of

(01:14:56):
the playmate's neon sign, andhow LA this movie feels.
A lot of it until it doesn'twhen we leave LA.
But it's such a great little LAmovie for a while.

SPEAKER_08 (01:15:07):
It's just very like look at Hollywood.
Here's Hollywood, here'sRalph's, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:11):
He here's the Walk of Fame, and Julius says, the
pavement was he sending me, Ihope you're okay, and they're
weirded out by him.

SPEAKER_08 (01:15:19):
Uh-huh.
Is pretty great.
Let me carry you to a doctor.
Yeah.
He's like, Let me get you a car.
It's like, no, I'm just gonnapick you up and run.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:27):
I wonder if this is a fa yeah, no, don't.
We're okay.
Just go away.
I like it a lot.

SPEAKER_08 (01:15:34):
When when Vincent is wear a helmet.
Yeah, right.
I will.
The man who doesn't know how todrive vehicles but knows vehicle
safety.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:42):
Right.
And vehicle alarms and vehicle,all sorts of vehicle things.
Two wheelies, I need betterlists.
But that's my thing.
I'm not I'm not always makinglists.
I should.
Steven, let me know.
When Vincent almost getsarrested here, or Vincent
almost, Vincent gets fuckingarrested here because of his
unpaid parking tickets and beingin handicap spots.

SPEAKER_08 (01:16:05):
Because he was in the handicap spot and he gets
look at me.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:07):
Like, of course it was like when he says, Do I look
normal to you?
When they ask him if he has asticker, that for me is the
moment where I'm like, I reallywant to hate you because you're
a terrible person.
But when he says, Do I looknormal to you?
the sincerity of it and thequickness of it and the
sharpness of it, of the like,I'm a survivor.

SPEAKER_08 (01:16:27):
My life has been I am the way I am because of many
very distinct situations thatcircumcurrency circumstances.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:40):
Yes, with grandma Gilmore.
Right.
Oh no.
You know that uh Mr.
Mista lady?

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:47):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:48):
I uh I think I killed her.
Mista! Mr.
Too bad we didn't get that moviea while ago.
But when he visits Julius visitsthe orphanage and gets the
breakdown from even the sisterat his orphanage, where
apparently he lost his virginityto one of the sisters at the

(01:17:08):
orphanage.

SPEAKER_08 (01:17:09):
Yeah, ruined, yeah.
Because Julius is a virgin.
And then she had to leavebecause she broke her vow.
I also like the night's nicething of like um he knew where
he slept, but got the reasoningall wrong.
Right.
Like to save everyone from thefire is like actually, there's
only better when one fire here,and it was it was caused by him.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:29):
We think it was Vincent.

SPEAKER_08 (01:17:31):
Yeah, we think it was Vincent.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:32):
Pretty sure.
So Vincent has basically neverbeen wanted.
He's always had to survive onhis own and scratch, things like
that.
And then also, like coming toterms with the fact that these
cars he's stealing, the peoplethat have to deal with it, their
time and energy is valuable, themoney that they lose and stuff
is valuable.
People are hurt by this.

(01:17:53):
The ones who ultimatelyhopefully are really hurt by
these sorts of things are theinsurance companies that rob
people every single fucking day.
So it is terrible that hesurvives the way he does.
But there are things that peopledo uh every day that are nice
and legal that cause more peoplemore pain and issues.

(01:18:14):
Yeah.
So Vince is in jail, and Juliusgets the idea to check the jails
from the orphanage becausethat's what they assume Vincent
is.
Okay, and then he picks thecorrect jails.
Yeah.
Because the twin mind.
You assume it he must have justpicked it.
He didn't go to like the countyregistrar.
He doesn't know it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:18:33):
He didn't make calls like, hey, do you have uh
someone by this name in your inyour jail right now?

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:38):
Were Los Angeles County municipal rules and
contacts in one of the books onthe island?
Oh yeah, he was that was one ofhis favorite.

SPEAKER_08 (01:18:46):
He knows exactly what holding.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:50):
I know all the laws of Los Angeles County.
Traffic, penetration, vibration.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:59):
Ruination.

SPEAKER_08 (01:19:00):
I'm the governor.
He's waiting to meet him andthen sees this big, tall,
muscular man walk by and like,uh, and oh mist um.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:10):
The fact that Schwarzenegger plays that so
well, DeVito plays it so well,that they play up the size
difference between the two ofthem and the look difference.
And it is great when they cometogether how ridiculous the
premise of this movie is.
And that's the whole thing,that's what the movie goes on.
The casting and the premise.

SPEAKER_08 (01:19:28):
It just and it just they keep pushing that.
Like, even to like like once herealizes, like, oh, I am at the
right booth that Danny DeVito ismy brother.
Okay, and then he starts talkingto him.
And Danny Devito picks up thephone and is like, you gotta use
the phone.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:39):
Bozo.
He calls him a bozo.
Immediately a bozo.
And Schwarzenegger's onlycomment is well, not identical
twins.
And Danny DeVito's like, noshit.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:54):
Same matter, can I buy some space?

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:57):
What really?
DeVito is able to getSchwarzenegger, who, as far as
DeVito knows, is just somefucking crazy guy.

SPEAKER_08 (01:20:06):
Yep.
I'm just gonna like I can takeadvantage of him just like I do
uh to get by otherwise.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:11):
Yep, they've set this up nicely that he's totally
fine with this.
And Schwarzenegger pays to gethim out, pays to get his car out
of impound, which includes allthe traffic violations.
And so how much money didSchwarzenegger come with?

SPEAKER_08 (01:20:24):
Uh, whatever.
I mean, like that must be thebriefcase.
Like the briefcase must befilled.
It's just cash.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:31):
No sandwich?

SPEAKER_08 (01:20:33):
No.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:35):
No.
What about a book about thethree rules of a crisis
situation?
I mean, I I think that's I thinkthat was his favorite book.

SPEAKER_08 (01:20:45):
Because he ref he references the crisis situation.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:49):
You forgot that's not the rule of the crisis
situation.
This movie does the rule of thethree beats through as many
storylines as it can.

SPEAKER_08 (01:20:57):
As they possibly can.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:59):
It's so tiring.
Vincent, when he gets his carout, is now like, I'm gonna
fucking ditch this guy, and justleaves Julius in a parking lot.
He's so full of energy.

unknown (01:21:11):
That's right.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:12):
That's all he says.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:14):
This is when we're now introduced, because Danny
DeVito has a chance to be ascumbag again, and whenever he's
alone, that's what he does.
We find out that he is stealinga Cadillac with is it a snow
cone like a is this after thedesk?
Is this uh is this after he goesback to the office?
I think this is about at the ohno, that's before he goes to the

(01:21:38):
office.
He steals the Cadillac and thengoes back to the office and is
like, we're pausing business.

SPEAKER_08 (01:21:46):
Yes, and then uh and all your stuff's getting
repossessed.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:49):
Yep, and the Cadillac has like a jet engine
in it, is what it is.
It's not a Wadahita, it's not aSnow Cone maker, it's not an
espresso machine.
His secretary's like Aqua Velva,and he's like, mmm, sexual
assault, and then throws theAqua Velva in the trap.

SPEAKER_08 (01:22:04):
Hey, basically, you're fired because we're like,
you know, they just took all ourfurniture and stuff, and like,
oh, thanks for the birthdaypresent, and then just like
kisses her in just I'll call ya.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:15):
Yeah.
I think I will say he does asright by her as possible.
Like, oh yes, yeah.
By the time we get to the end ofthe movie, there's uh that
that's a beat that they makesure to come back and hit.
So Arnold shows up as the claimbrother enforcer is there for
like we want our 20 grand.

(01:22:36):
Yeah, again, Arnold just showingup.
I knew you'd be here.
Yeah.
And Arnold goes over the firstrule of a crisis situation, and
it's the first of three times?

SPEAKER_08 (01:22:49):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
And what is the first of threetimes?
I don't crisis.
I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:53):
You moved too soon.
I felt like that was all of themthough.
Prepared to have your blood.
Love called.
Like I think that well, and thethird one I think wasn't real.
No, no.
That was and it was a veryweird.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:07):
The three beats of a Hollywood script is what the
real rule is.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:13):
We've got to get out of the situation that we wrote
ourselves into.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:16):
Hey, they had saved the cat on the fucking island,
but they didn't have the KamaSutra?
Nope.
Shit.
When Schwarzenegger, this is themoment, Burris, that I'm like,
damn.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:28):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:29):
They get in a fight, the Enforcer guy in
Schwarzenegger, andSchwarzenegger, they use two
different shots to be likeSchwarzenegger's lifting this
guy off the ground.

SPEAKER_08 (01:23:37):
But love that he didn't like ankle converse and
shorts.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:40):
Yeah, it's great.
He's a style icon.
He's got like a blade, like aweird fabric blazer on.
I don't know what it is.
I love the wardrobe in thismovie.
Across the board, it's sofucking 80s.
Yeah, it's such a time capsule.
Boom, don't be bad.
When it's his first t shirt.
T-shirt.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:59):
I'm still kicking.
Great.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:01):
When Schwarzenegger throws dude to the back of the
elevator here, I'm like,awesome.
Oh that looks great.
I'm sure it's a wire.

SPEAKER_08 (01:24:10):
Oh, you can see the wire.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:11):
Oh, I didn't notice it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:24:12):
Yeah, at the end, I could you could see it against
the wood paneling uh slashstyrofoam of the inside of the
elevator.
Awesome.
It just moves a little bit.
It was like, I got it.
I also I love seeing momentslike that in older films where I
say you can see the practicaleffect.
That's there, like you hide itwith it's just a black wire, and
that's all you do.
You don't you don't like go andpost and erase it.

(01:24:34):
You just it's just there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:35):
We learned that in speed with the bus that exploded
that was being towed by us, likea Chevy S10 or whatever it was.
I love like what you're saying.
It's just like a brave, talentedstunt person that's able to
really convincingly play thisrole, and or it's an actor
that's brave enough to do thestunt.
Because I think it's the sameguy.

(01:24:56):
I think I was more focused onthe guy, but like the motion of
him flying in the back of theelevator is very effective.
Yeah.
And another one of our twinmoments is I think this is the
end of the first act.
Oh, we're still going here.
Arnold Intuits, it's$20,000 thatDeVito owns, and we're off on
the bro venture.

SPEAKER_08 (01:25:16):
Yeah, he owes a shit ton of money.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:18):
A lot of money.

SPEAKER_08 (01:25:18):
And then it was um, hey, can you um I got this
Cadillac and I need to get thisto uh my friend, I gotta drop it
off so then they're gonna splitcards up?
Yeah, for the for the kids, andand then I was like, I don't
know how to drive.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:30):
And he he like reads a book in two wheels.
Yeah, you're just like going on,like, I've only been driving.
No problem.
Uh Chloe Groove and KellyPreston, who are they're just
bombshells.

SPEAKER_08 (01:25:41):
And they're just are they just did they just randomly
come across them?
Did I forget?
Did Danny DeVito like know thatthey were at the grocery store?

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:48):
I think it's twin energy man.
I think those two twin men aresupposed to be with those two
non-twin women.
They're just sisters.
Are they fraternal twins or arethey?
They're just sisters.
I mean they're both bombshells.
Well, Cazaro says like, yoursisters.
Yeah, he's so excited after hegets caught with the Playboy and
is like, I didn't know this wasin you.

SPEAKER_08 (01:26:07):
Well, yeah, what a what a meat cute.
It's gonna they're gonna end uptogether after that, right?

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:14):
And he's so embarrassed about it.
And DeVito's like, oh that therewould be this kind of pictures
in the in the Playboy, andDeVito being like, Oh my god,
you're a virgin, and Arnoldbeing like, That's private.
And you go through Vince's kindof daily life, like his
apartment's kind of messy andit's filled with a lot of snack
food, and he microwaves take outand shit like that.

(01:26:39):
And Vince kind of breaks downthe experiment for us again as
an audience, as it's been brokendown for him again by
Schwarzenegger off camera.
Like there's a fade, and that'swhat happened.
It's all told to us throughstories that are apparently a
croc, and they go through thatDeVito thinks is a croc, and the
McClain's attack again.

(01:27:00):
Can't get past these guys, andnow Webster's involved, and he
kills the guys that lost thecar.

SPEAKER_08 (01:27:07):
And it's it's another fucking they've we've
got another plot element now oflike, oh, the car was there for
scientists who are gonna pay anddrive this thing because they
were selling it to some otherperson, you know.
We don't know much about it, andright, but now we've got this
like assassin/slash couriertrying to get the product back

(01:27:29):
bag made.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Vince is in this stolen car thatis supposed to be for the kids
and finds out, oh shit, I canmake some money for this.
And Julius finds out they'vebeen lied to, and all this shit
has to come together for them tobe like, we're gonna go find our
mom and deliver this car soVince can get his renegotiating

(01:27:53):
but not five million dollars.

SPEAKER_08 (01:27:54):
Yeah, and Julius the whole time is like, You're my
brother, I will help you.
Right.
So I'm gonna help you do thisthing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:01):
Altruist the whole time.
Even when Marnie walks in on himsinging and showering some
yakity sex and checks out hisdong in a mirror.
Like the movie is so fucking.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28:17):
He's just like, uh, let me just his muscles and he's
like, Oh, I should probablychange this.
Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:24):
Oh, I know Danny DeVito killed the mother during
childbirth, but you can killsomeone with that thing,
terminator.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28:34):
She's like actively drooling.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:37):
Everyone in this movie is equally horny.
I'll give it that.
Yeah.
So even the neighbors, like, Imade some cookies.
Yeah, great.
I can't wait to toss them later.
Yeah, because he thinks thatthat's what you're supposed to
do.
Toss your cookies is toss yourcookies, according to Danny
DeVito, about being sweet.
But even the neighbor that'slike, don't sleep with that man

(01:28:57):
and don't give him any money.
The pussy this guy pulls isinsane.
Insane.
It's the it's the it's the hair.
I think it's the confidence.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:10):
I don't know.
Maybe it's that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:12):
Well, and it's maybe it's not the pulled back man but
it's not the skulllet, the cigalponytail without the shoe
polish, like widow's feet.
DeVito's response about theneighbor is I cleaned her pipes
once.
It's exactly what you'd expect.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:31):
It's from the skill, like it is on point for that
character.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:34):
And do you feel like it's part of the movie that
hasn't aged super perfectly?

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:39):
No, because I mean, like, everyone knows that.
I mean, it's more just like thewomanizing aspect, but like not
that.
Right.
I cleaned your I cleaned yourpipes once.
Like, I think at that point,it's we're in a comedy.
Like, yeah, it's like we knowwho this person is.
It didn't feel out of place forthis character to say that.
So do you feel like Or maybe atthat point it's so much had
happened.
I was just like, all right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:00):
Do you feel like part of our problem with the
DeVito thing is that we'rejealous?
Are we jealous?

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:06):
Like it's it was just a different I mean, like
parts of it age better thanother parts.
That's all I like.
It was more of that beginningthat was like, huh.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:12):
How can he be so confident and be such a
Lothario?
But just jealous?

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:17):
It's all but it's all fake.
It's all just surf-rise.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:20):
He's not happy, man.

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:21):
No, you see him in those moments of just like
loneliness, and you just likeyou see his despair.
He's so and then he just like hejust he translates it into anger
and grumpiness.
And apparently that's likereally attractive.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:35):
Apparently, you're right.
It were and works for him in themovie, anyway.
So they decide we're out ofhere, we're leaving LA, and
Webster shows up just as they'releaving.
The guy, the bagman who's needsthe jet engine.
I we gotta, I gotta keep linkingall this shit together.
You gotta link this shittogether, Burris.
It's chains, it's pounds, it'syards, it's miles of chains.

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:58):
We still don't know what the thing in the trunk is.
Yeah, we you know, as it alwaysI mean, like it just it looks
like a bomb.
Like if this movie was made twoyears later in 1990, it would
have been a bomb, it would havebeen terrorists, and that would
have been that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:11):
I like I'm so glad it's not because it's another
fucking storyline.
Yeah, but thank goodness that itis the kind of interestingness
of like, yeah, it's justcorporate espionage, man.
I do kind of like that.
Like, this is how shit getsdone.
The claims show up at Vince's atthe same time as Webster.

SPEAKER_08 (01:31:29):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:30):
And that poor fucking abandoned cat that's
just like, I will eat garbage,please.
Please feed me, just let meoutside.
This man traps me in here fordays.
All I have is stuff to read.
That's all I have.
And Webster finds like what islike uh an address written down
or something?
That's what it was of the artistretreaters or something, or the

(01:31:52):
Los Alamos, Los Alamos.
Why doesn't Webster just fuckingshoot, like kill them?
They saw his face too.
He shot the scientists, heshoots them in the line.
I mean, maybe because they'relike in the same business.
Oh yeah, because they're allscumbags.

SPEAKER_08 (01:32:06):
Yeah, respect to uh scumbags code.
Yeah.
You're here to kill okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:11):
Okay, fine.

SPEAKER_08 (01:32:11):
I'll give you a pick.
Like we're all we're in the sameguild.
Oh, 405?
Oh yeah, 253.
Oh, great, yeah.
Cool.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:19):
Oh, super.
Bang, bang.
So the room with your feet.
Oh, shoot.
Bang, getting shit done.
Arnold busts through DeVito'sshirt that DeVito's been like
mad he's been wearing.

SPEAKER_08 (01:32:32):
Also, how how does that how does he fit?
I don't know.
For that long, even.
How did it button?
I don't know.
How did it hit his waistline?
I don't know.
The shoulders on the man, thetraps.
And like now it's like, ah, weshould probably get him a new
shirt because he flexed and justflexible boner.

(01:32:54):
Oh, that's right.
He gets into the car and seesand sees are just like ready.
And he's just like, oh, and uhthis is his PG film, so this is
the election moment.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:03):
Yeah, we're not at any point.
So euphemism for the ding dong,folks.
Well, I know the books, thebooks aren't there, but come to
the review review, come to thereview review, and we will come,
we will tell you about thereproduction and the boners.
The father's bulge, dad's bulge.
There's a lot of things.

(01:33:23):
There's a lot of horny uh moviesdone by this podcast.
Yeah, baby.
We try.
This is what people bring to thepot.
Thank you.
Thank you, everyone, for yourhorny, horny movies.
Because you're born to be bad.
It was your first t shirt.
I love that line.
Because Arnold's so happy aboutit.
It's a t-shirt.

(01:33:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:33:45):
And it's there's like there's a picture on it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:47):
Yeah.
There's a childlike nature tohim that feels so honest.

SPEAKER_08 (01:33:52):
His smiling grin is just so good.
It's it shouldn't work, but itworks so well.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:57):
I'll just the camera angle and him doing the same
pose as the shirt.
Yeah, and looking around.
Okay, so who's lying to who?
We have to go to Los Alamos tofind out.
And the worst security guardever lets Arnold Schwarzenegger
kick a door like 12 feet into aroom, and he's like, tell us the

(01:34:19):
truth.
Why are we born?

SPEAKER_08 (01:34:20):
And the doctor kind of tells them the biggest
asshole in the world, or thebiggest asshole in this film.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:25):
Yeah, he's just he's like William Atherton or some of
the other big pricks we've done.
Ben Gazara, the big pricks we'vedone in this movie.
This guy doesn't as much creditnor as much screen time, but we
see the birthing room, which uhthey dust regularly, pretty
regularly.

SPEAKER_08 (01:34:40):
Yeah, I was like the door had dust opening a little,
but like the metal uh exam tableand stuff was pretty in good
shape.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:47):
Look like mildly shiny.
Yeah.
We go through the experimentagain, this time to the end that
Danny Nevito's like, so I'm allthe crap, like I'm all the stuff
that the body should haverejected and thrown away.
And it's a heavy moment.

SPEAKER_08 (01:35:03):
Just like, yeah, just more baggage for him to
carry.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:07):
Yeah.
Arnold talks him through it,which is nice is a nice.
It's nice that Arnold grabs thedoctor and he's like, if you're
lying, I'll be back.
Which he's saying how manymovies he has to say.

SPEAKER_08 (01:35:20):
I think it's it, I think it's in his running
contract.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:22):
In his contract.
So I know he did it in RunningMan and Last Action Hero, which
are on this program.
Arnold kind of talks, threatensthe doctor and talks Danny
through, like, hey, you'redifferent parts of a lot of
different people.
Like whatever the case isfathers.
The people that raise you to adegree, right?

SPEAKER_02 (01:35:42):
Are and in the sense like you didn't have anyone.
No one there.
Of course, you're like this.
You had to you had to take careof yourself and fend for
yourself, but now you've got me.
And now we're gonna go find amother and we'll have a family.

SPEAKER_08 (01:35:53):
You know, like it was like it was a really sweet
moment.
Dude, I can't I can't talk aboutthis movie and not try to go and
I just fall into like a I loveit.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:01):
It's it's about chosen family and like the the
funkles and the fance, the thefoss.

SPEAKER_08 (01:36:07):
Yes, but it was like it was like a really well, like
great.
That's exactly it's like I'mhere now.
You don't have to be alone, youdon't have to wall yourself up
and and don't listen to thatguy.
It's I believe it.
Don't listen to the personthat's hid our mother from us
our entire lives and and toldlike both of us were dead.
Like, don't don't take his wordfor anything.
It's nothing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:26):
I believe it.
I I think it's well delivered.
I think it's a a solid actordoing solid work delivering
this, and I feel like he feelsreal empathy for Danny DeVito
and uh both actors like doingreally solid shit, and it's like
proto fast and the furious, likePaul Walker and Vin Diesel.
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger andDanny DeVito.

(01:36:48):
Wow, I'd love this.
We'll finally be complete.
A family.

SPEAKER_05 (01:36:51):
I said forget about it, could family.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:54):
So they go.
This is the time they're like,we're gonna meet mom.
She's alive, she's around, we'regonna find her, we're gonna get
it dialed in, and they go suitshopping.

SPEAKER_08 (01:37:06):
Yes, this is the iconic scene.
And what what amazing suits thatthey get.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:11):
Dude, they're like my are they cream?
Are they chiffon?

SPEAKER_08 (01:37:14):
It's like it's not, it's like an off-chaki brown,
creamy egg, but then like theblue, and then teaching them how
to walk.
You know, you're too stiff, soyou gotta you gotta loosen up
like like music.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:27):
The square sunglasses, does the romance the
jacket flip glasses, yes.
Schwarzenegger flipping thatjacket over Danny DeVito's head
is physical comedy gold.

SPEAKER_08 (01:37:38):
Also, the um we we skipped over it, but the nuked
dinners and them oh yeah um howsetting their and setting their
table.

SPEAKER_10 (01:37:45):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:37:45):
They're all doing identical movements for that.
And I was like, I like nukedfood.
And I was like, no, you don't.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:50):
No one no, you don't.
You just you think you like itbecause suddenly it's hot.
Uh-huh.
So you're just mystified by it.
I also I I feel like this is apreamble.
It's like the penguin and Mr.
Freeze walking together.
We're like Mr.
Freeze is like, do I look cool?
And then the penguin is like,Mr.
Ice.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:11):
My condition is let me cold to your compliments.
I'm too altruist.

SPEAKER_08 (01:38:19):
The ice age.
But now they've got thesematching suits, and then they're
very top siders, the whole deal.
And then now we're in the motel,and it tonight is your night,
bro.
It's your night, bro.
Like the tonight is your night,bro.
And this goes on for a while.
This is one of those momentswhere I think, okay, this is
where Schwarzenegger wasprobably stoned because there's
a while of like hey, he's justrepeating that line.

(01:38:41):
It it felt like in the script,it's like, and Danny Vero says
that uh that character says,tonight's your night, bro, and
he didn't get his line back.
Like, no one said their nextline, so he's like, I'm just
gonna just gonna keep going.
Tonight is your night, bro, andhe keeps and he yanks himself
and then we then then swords andtalks.
I was like, ah, I was it wasjust I got a little bit of

(01:39:03):
pause, but like, there was thatwas a very long time of just
like letting that happen.

SPEAKER_03 (01:39:07):
I would be interested to watch just how
long that clump is because I'msure it feels longer than it is,
uh-huh.
But also, it is so sweet.
It's one of the moments therearen't a lot of them.
He's so nervous, but and he'sArnold's super nervous, and
Danny DeVito's like, Oh, Ireally want you to get laid.
Like, it's so weird that thething that makes him redeemable

(01:39:28):
is how bad he wants his brotherto have sex.

SPEAKER_08 (01:39:31):
And they both have these moments of being the older
brother, you know.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like we've got sort of liketalking to Vino, like, you're
not, don't listen to this guy.
And like, you this is why this,and like you don't have to be
that anymore.
I'm here.
Yeah, books are Street Smart.
Yeah, it's a big brother thing.
And this is also the same thing.
I was like, You've never been ona date before.
Oh, well, let me show you.
Like, I'm like, what are youafraid of?
I was like, Oh, we're goingdancing.
It's like, oh yeah, oh, youdon't know how to dance?
All right, let's dance.

SPEAKER_03 (01:39:52):
Yeah, I I really like the way it sets up.
That's where it feels super,super natural.
Oh, what's that smell?
It must be a ghost in here.
The it sets up them dancing,DeVito dancing with
Schwarzenegger, going to thecountry western bar and dancing.
That feels natural and charming.
And then all of a sudden theclaims show up, and you're like,

(01:40:14):
God damn it, that doesn'tshouldn't Webster have fucking
killed you already.
How are they back again?
And how do they find them?
And what the yeah, nice of yourboss to tell us where you were.
It's like so it's so fired.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, we're fired.
The way Kelsey Kelly, Kelsey,Kelly Preston says that also

(01:40:34):
we're fired.
It's kind of funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:40:37):
And then it seems like, oh, we're getting to like
a climactic moment in a waylike, oh, shit's gonna go down.
Right.
Because I didn't remember whathappened next.
And it was like, oh no.
And then more cousins come out.
I was like, uh oh.
It's really coming to a head.
And like, uh, it's gonna justgonna be like a big scene
outside.
It's like, nope, nope.
He's like, oh, the second ruleof uh that's when we get our
second rule.
The crisis situation.
Yeah, crisis situation.

(01:40:58):
And uh too soon.

SPEAKER_07 (01:40:59):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:41:00):
You're bluffing, you gotta call the bluff.
And he's like, No, I'm notbluffing.
That's when the other cousinscome out, like take him outside
and kill him.
And then Carlos like, oh, it'snot a bluff, and then he just
jumps up and kicks them in theface and smashes the two other
cousins together.

SPEAKER_03 (01:41:15):
Does a scissor kick and then pulls them together.
It's like a three-stop just.
Oh, he's talking funny again.
Oh, jeez.
And Danny DeVito like beats upthe other one, and it's kind of
you're expecting this big thing,and it's kicks him in the nards.
Is that right?
Yeah, I think so.
It turns into like what feelslike mostly a fairly real world

(01:41:35):
world fight.
It's very short, and then it'sover, and they leave.
And everybody's fine with it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:41:39):
Everybody cheers, everyone's fine.
There's unconscious people onthe floor, and all the dancers
come back out and just dancearound the three unconscious
bodies.

SPEAKER_03 (01:41:46):
It's so bizarre because Jeff Beck's playing.

SPEAKER_08 (01:41:49):
And and like there's there's one of them that's right
right next to the the one thathad like the the um the neck
brace and like the dance is likejust like right over his body
and doing like this move.
I'm like, what is what ishappening?

SPEAKER_03 (01:42:05):
You are gonna try to- What is this extra?
Do you assume they just gottrampled to death?
Oh, after that, yeah.
There has been a moido.
By the way, it must have beensuper crowded.
For that is Jeff Beck playingthe guitar on stage for that
scene.
It's like, I guess they gotlucky.

SPEAKER_08 (01:42:23):
That was a nice like the dance was also a nice
bonding moment with thebrothers, yeah, and also uh
taking those relationships tothe next level.
Yeah.
Like, ah, there, and like, andthen the synchronized movements
and everything.

SPEAKER_03 (01:42:36):
And then the talk in the bathroom, the flushing at
the same time.

SPEAKER_08 (01:42:38):
And then twirling them out, and and then they come
to then the brothers cometogether and waltz back to their
uh dance partners and stuff.
It's like, ah, you know, likethis is what they did, this is
what they practiced in the room.

SPEAKER_03 (01:42:50):
It's it's so visually charming, and the the
way they move in synchronicity,and like you were saying, that
how they have those talks wherethe dynamic changes.
Yeah, they're grabbing thegirls' asses.
But then they make sure to showthe child like excitement.
Oh, that's good.
And then the sleepingarrangements tonight is your bad
bro.
Because it was on the requestline, it had to come back.

(01:43:14):
It sticks in your head, right?
It's been in my head allmorning.
So they meet their mom?
We're not sure until the end.

SPEAKER_08 (01:43:25):
But we also, you know, we have the sleeping
moment.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like Danny V leaves, and thenand then the other sister comes,
she's like, Oh, I can't, I can'tsleep.

SPEAKER_03 (01:43:33):
Kelly Preston comes after.
There's a camera angle of herbooty sticking out here.

SPEAKER_08 (01:43:38):
Yeah.
So she takes a bed, he sleeps onthe floor, because he always
sleeps on the floor.
EG.
And then like he's not gettingthe signals.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:45):
Oh, darn.
She's like, what teach you?

SPEAKER_08 (01:43:48):
The bed is too lumpy.
Can I sit?
Can I come down here with you?

SPEAKER_03 (01:43:51):
And then I guess it's like he's much lumpier, by
the way.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:43:54):
Just so you know.
But then, yeah, what do we donow?
And it's like, let's find out.
Like, cool.

SPEAKER_03 (01:43:59):
Cool.
Okay, we fucked.
Do you want to meet my mom?
And then the cigarette.

SPEAKER_08 (01:44:03):
The cigarette.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:44:04):
This is the other moment of like, and then his
just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:44:08):
I was like, that was another one.
I was like, oh, he I think hehad a line and he just forgot
it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:44:11):
Who knows?
Yeah.
Maybe that was the weed lace.
We're just like, this way.
Smoke my stogie however I want.
So they meet the mom at theartist retreat.
Well, and as far as they know,they did not.

unknown (01:44:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:44:25):
And they reveal it at the end of the scene.
Like, we're not ruininganything.
They walk through the artistretreat.
Oh, you're after an assholegatekeeper.
Like they met one of the realdads.
Earlier, yeah.
Yeah, who's one of the buff guyswho helped them along to find
the mom.
Daddy.
Yeah, daddy.
Yeah, kind of one of them.
That guy's great.

(01:44:45):
Like a lot of the people withthe smaller roles in this movie.
That was that was a good one.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the secretary's reallygood.
It's a small role, but she doesreally well with it.
So mom lies, and basicallyeveryone has lied to everybody
except like Julius.

unknown (01:45:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:45:01):
He's speaking from an honest place always.

SPEAKER_08 (01:45:03):
And the mom doesn't believe it.
They brought up throughout thefilm was like the people that
knew that the mom is still alivewas that she gave birth and the
child didn't survive.
Yeah.
And that she never was able tolet go of that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:45:14):
And especially didn't know there were two.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:45:16):
But she always she never could get rid of over it.
And so then, and that was thewhole reason why he said she
lied.
He's like, Where are your twins?
It's like, you motherfuckerstrying to get this land will say
anything.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:45:30):
She thinks they're real estate developers.
Yeah, trying to basically thething.
Like trying to negotiate.
And that's that's the thingabout this movie is uh I think
it's trying to tell us so much,like our chosen family, our you
know, mothers, fathers, sisters,brothers, whatever, uh, friends,
cousins, all those things, likejust what a twisted web, like a
lot of this stuff is, and likewhat a web of lies, and for why.

(01:45:52):
And of course, it's not stufflike by the way, like you gave
twin birth to twins, one is agenius, one is Danny Novito.
Like, sorry.
Like, but the movie doesn't gointo the any of that.
Vincent, this isn't my mom.
Oh my god, and just fuckingloses it.
He ditches everybody.

(01:46:12):
This is the thing, like, how doyou come back from that?
How do how is he forgiven?
He left Marnie.

SPEAKER_08 (01:46:18):
He burned every bridge, everybody.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:21):
He leaves them in New Mexico, drives off in the
stolen Cadillac with the jetengine, and it's the beetroot
trap.
Like where beatroot's like,yeah, come and meet me, but
Webster is there because he'sbeen tailing everybody the whole
time.
You know, and the claims are hoton the trail, right?
They gotta be.

SPEAKER_04 (01:46:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:40):
Because we're gonna see them again, right?

SPEAKER_08 (01:46:44):
We don't.
No.
We don't see them again.
Nope.
They got knocked out andtrampled by the uh all the
guests have been stomped todeath by the roadhouse at the
roadhouse.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:58):
So it plays uh the runner-up for best song ever,
Brother to Brother, which ispretty great.
And Vince delivers the engine toBeatroot, and they just pay him.
They they threaten him.
It feels kind of threateningwith the gun, and they're just
like, Yeah, here's your fivemillion dollars, Vincent, for
delivering the engine.
You negotiated well.
I know it seems like they'regonna kill him.

SPEAKER_08 (01:47:19):
Yeah, and like it seems really weird.
It's like it's just also theyalso like make sure to like neg
him down.
Like, also, just you know, like,yeah, you really you really are
just a car stealer, aren't you?
You just you have no idea.
I was like, and then like andthen the honesty of like Andy
Villages, like, yeah, yeah, I amyou know, just like yeah, it's
like I'm not armed, but like,yeah, you're right, I'm I'm a
piece of trash, nobody.

SPEAKER_03 (01:47:40):
Do you feel like they're like you lucky son of a
bitch?

SPEAKER_08 (01:47:43):
Like a bit, but they're also like they're
putting him down, like you'rejust a nobody.
And then you see him truly fullysay it's like, yeah, I am, I'm a
nobody.
I feel like they thought he waslucky.
Like you've made it that like Iguess a little bit, but there's
I felt like there's a bit oflike it was it was, I think it
was like a half and half becausethat I mean there was that one
particular neg at him that thatlike when he had to answer

(01:48:04):
again, like, yeah, no, I'm I Ijust I'm just a I'm just a scar
thief.
I'm not interesting or you know,and which is just great for that
moment because he's already asdowntrodden as he could be.
Well, you know, he just burnedall the bridges, he's alone
again.
And so it's just like which he'schosen, yeah.
And but he had that like momentof like honesty of it's like
agreeing, it's what it kind offelt like, but then also, yeah,
it's like, oh great.

(01:48:25):
It's like it's your luckyfrickin' day.

SPEAKER_03 (01:48:27):
I think it it immediately earns that moment,
like you said, where DannyDeVito is finally honest,
somebody well above his statusputs him in his place, he
agrees, the people above hisstatus leave are immediately
killed.

SPEAKER_08 (01:48:42):
Yeah, and Danny is celebrating because he's got
five million bucks.
Yep.
Oh, I just want to back checkreally quickly.
Some more twin sense stuff wasoh yeah, yeah.
Arnold flies into like Houston,uh, wherever yeah, and uh and is
like looking for him and likefeels like the burn on the hand,
or like screen, he's likescratching the hand, he feels
that, and they're doing likesimilar things, and he's sensing

(01:49:04):
him on uh and then steals a car,you know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:07):
So he's doing learned from his brother, yeah,
exactly.

SPEAKER_08 (01:49:10):
So older brother lessons.
So like he's searching for himand is gonna we all know he's
gonna find him.

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:15):
Yeah, and and that's what happens is like there's
this underground chase scenething that happens between
Webster, who is doing likelong-range stuff with a shotgun,
and Danny DeVito scufflingaround.
He just running and running andrunning with the smallest steps.
Oh, yeah.
He's scuffling, yeah.
He's scuffling and shuffling,and Arnold shows up at random.

SPEAKER_08 (01:49:37):
Well, because he's like, finally I've got like the
clear.

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:40):
He's getting out, and he's gonna get away.
And that that underground stuff,as we were talking about, the
just like the mild action stuffwith the motorcycle.
The underground stuff with thelighting and some of the pushes
that are happening and thedollies and the lens pulls,
yeah.
Yeah, it's nice, it's got like alittle bit of style there, which
like I enjoy.
When this movie's really tryingto move, it does have a little

(01:50:02):
stylistic flair to it.
Yeah, there's some speed rampsand stuff that happen.
And then uh and then he Buthere's Arnold out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_08 (01:50:09):
He's got his I his sights are on DeVito, and
Arnold's there just in time withhis silver briefcase and just
chucks it at him and makes amiss.
And DeVito comes back like, uhshit, I could have got out.
Well then he yeah, he's like, hekeeps running, and then he's a
Miami or whatever he says.
Yeah, he's like, he hears thevoice, he's like, shit.
Yeah, he's like, no, and hetries to fight it, and he's
like, No, I can't.

(01:50:30):
And like, that's my brother, andhe goes back like also lovely
moment.

SPEAKER_03 (01:50:33):
And yeah, and it's like I was yeah, dude, it's the
third, the third rule thing thathappens where they're like the
third rule in the crisissituation, and apparently
Webster's so they open thebrief.
What is it?
What is it case?

SPEAKER_08 (01:50:45):
Yeah, and like we gave you the money, you're gonna
kill us anyways.

SPEAKER_03 (01:50:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's so enthralled by whateverthe third rule might be that
they're like so slow, butthere's no like the whole time I
lied, I was like, ah, there's alever there.

SPEAKER_08 (01:51:04):
That's the third rule.
I get it, but like there's nosignaling to the lever.
They're just looking at eachother.
I was like, okay, I guess it'stwin sensing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:10):
They're intuiting, yeah.
They're twin sensing.
So I don't know.
It's it's pretty fucking cornyand it makes no sense, but it
drops that insane chain, whichis pretty cool.

SPEAKER_08 (01:51:20):
So good.
And it's like nine feet high,eight feet high.
And they they let you just theylet you just soak that up for a
bit of just watching them watchthe chain, you watching the
chain.
Yeah, and the sound effects andand then next thing is just a
white cut and the chain is thepile is so much bigger than our

(01:51:41):
expect it to be.

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:42):
Arnold's like a 6162.
Ridiculous pile of chains.
And we cut back now to the mom,who we know is the mom because
they told us earlier, and wehave to wrap that up.
We never saw the claims againbecause they got they got
stampeded.
They got bigger.

SPEAKER_08 (01:51:55):
The Billy's making return the money.

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:56):
Right.
Julius is like, you gotta returnthe five, you gotta return the
money, you gotta return all ofit.
But they show up in USL, USAtoday, and it's proven that
they're twins and they're thisbig national story, and they
return this missing enginepiece, right?
This corporate espionage shit,and the mom shows up at the evil
doctors and punches him in theface.
Again, this guy's the worstfucking security guards, I swear

(01:52:19):
to God.

SPEAKER_08 (01:52:20):
So satisfying though.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:21):
The mom kicks the door 16 feet, yeah, picks him up
with one hand, just chucks himout the window, and it's now
like the biggest.

SPEAKER_04 (01:52:30):
I'm tearing the hole apart.
Yeah.
What happened to me?

SPEAKER_08 (01:52:36):
But then, yeah, they're they're now we've seen
them and they're like, they'rein a big old expensive job.
Office.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:42):
Nothing there.

SPEAKER_08 (01:52:43):
We've got the secretary back.
They their business issomething.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:47):
Yeah.
He gets Linda back, he he doesthis big grain gesture, Danny
DeVito does it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:52:52):
And then the the yeah, and the the sec oh sorry,
yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:54):
He does do the gives her all the flowers, but they
they start the BenedictCorporation.

SPEAKER_08 (01:52:58):
Somehow breaks and enters in in like five seconds
flips around the back side.

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:03):
Yeah, yeah.
Breaks into the back side.
Nobody knows how he did it.
But there he is.
So now they're they have theBenedict Corporation, which is
like the Rand Corporation, butsmarter.

SPEAKER_08 (01:53:16):
Yes.
There you go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:17):
And uh they're tallying everything up, and with
the$50,000 reward, how much dothey have left?
Their office is swanky, they'rewearing nice shirts with cuff
links.

SPEAKER_08 (01:53:27):
They've paid off all their loans and debts, and they
still have sixteen thousanddollars a good amount of money.

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:33):
And it's it's told to us pretty much that Danny
Devado DeVito was somehow ableto take a million dollars of
that cash and put it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:53:40):
Oh, the four million dollars.
That's right.
It's like, oh yeah, you made mereturn the four million dollars.
And then I can't tell.
Do you think Julius knows aboutthe the other?
Like, did they agree?
I don't think Julius knows.
Because I thought, I think Ithought he heard that it was
five million earlier.

SPEAKER_03 (01:54:01):
He but maybe he did.
Yeah, the movie has something,like, who knows?

SPEAKER_08 (01:54:05):
It's just like is he just oblivious, or is he like, I
yes, return the movie?
Sure, we can take a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 (01:54:10):
I don't think he ever told anybody the amount.
He didn't tell the girls a lot,does he?
Well, he does when herenegotiates it.
Five million dollars, fivemillion dollars.
Which I like that scene a lot.
Five million dollars ain'tenough for you.
I like the guy who plays BeatRoot.
Here's the thing though, I wouldrather they had all five million
dollars because I want Julius tohave that money to do good with
it.

(01:54:31):
That other four million dollarswent back to some company or
went to the government.
No.
Yeah, no, thank you.
It's a bit far-fetched.
The whole movie's a bit farfetched.
But then the mom something did.
It's about Danny DeVito and AlSchwarzenegger being twins.
I don't know if you know this.

SPEAKER_02 (01:54:44):
Oh, yeah.
I know I I thought that was verybelievable.

SPEAKER_03 (01:54:47):
Is that far fetched to you?
The twin sense was great.
Yeah.
Mom comes like, mommy, and thenthey all hug together and Mama.
Yeah.
Danny DeVito there, the momentbefore he says Mama, like it was
very sweet.
There's some actors here.
There's some breakfast for sure.

SPEAKER_08 (01:55:03):
She's like, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:55:04):
I didn't know, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
And it was like, uh It's a verysweet ending.
So a lot of stuff doesn't getwrapped up, including as we were
saying, like, did the claimsjust get trampled to death?
Can we see the sequence?
Is there a murder podcast aboutwhat happened to the claims?
Can we get that?

SPEAKER_08 (01:55:18):
And now we jump in time to uh what's it?
It's old LA Zoo.
A year later or something?
It's a carousel there.
Yeah.
They used to be there, or maybeit's still there.
Is it at a park or a carnival orsomething?
I've been there.
I know that.
I was like, I recognize this.
I don't think it's thereanymore.
And the doctor from the islandis there, and and the mom is
there, and they and the thesisters and the br and the

(01:55:39):
twins.

SPEAKER_03 (01:55:39):
Yeah, the twins have had twins and the twins and the
twins.

SPEAKER_08 (01:55:41):
And then yeah, you see that shot of them just
walking together like before,but then they zoom out and they
both have uh strollers withtwins in them, and and that sets
up the uh the Jake Johnson anduh Troy Day and Will Farrell and
John C.
Riley uh twin sequel.
I really after you know thealternate version of Junior.
Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:56:01):
The way to go, but I just really wanna know what
happened.
I just wanna espe I would wantto know what happened in the
triplets.
Did you know your uncle menfaucets and that and that on
that?
What if it were triplets withyour idea?
Like Eddie Murphy was the third,and then the sons were, I don't
know, Michael B.

(01:56:21):
Jordan and Yahya.

SPEAKER_08 (01:56:24):
So we'd have to do triplets, and then we could do
the twin triplets six tubits.
Sick tup blitz.
Oct octagon.
Because then we've got the threebrothers with the with the and
the the bun with then six setsix kids, two three pairs of
twins that then are the infinitystones.

SPEAKER_03 (01:56:47):
We're at the end of this movie.
We have spoken about this movieat Nazi.
This has been going we've beenrecording for a while.
Uh there's so much shit I'm surewe miss in this movie.
There's so many goddamn fuckingstorylines.
We did the very best that wecould.
Burris, should it be you, shouldit be I?

SPEAKER_08 (01:57:05):
Um I was just gonna you should stop reading my twins
in modern cannot buy some.

SPEAKER_03 (01:57:11):
We're always finishing each other's
sandwiches.
We've both seen that a lot,apparently.
Yeah.
Okay.
We just we watch twins.
Uh I will tell you, I don'tthink I'm gonna move off the
three with the with the threemilkshakes with the heart.

(01:57:32):
I don't I don't want to move offit.
I don't think there's any I knowI think I know the flaws of this
movie intimately.
And they don't bother again.
I think I'm gonna start usingthis for a barometer.
I would show twins to a child,my child, a child, fictitio or
real, before I'd show themfucking Goodburger.
I'm again like I'd showTerminator 2 to a kid before I'd

(01:57:54):
show them Goodburger, but I justI think the movie is mostly
harmless, and I think it canstart, especially depending on
how much you want to parent orfunkal or font or whatever it
might be, funk.
Uh font, font?
Oh no, don't do that.
But like it just depends on aconversation you want to have

(01:58:16):
with a with with a kid for theage appropriate of the rating.
I guess I'm obsessed with that.

SPEAKER_08 (01:58:20):
And for this movie, like there are some very lovely
like topics broached, and andlike like the conversation with
Arnold and DeVito, like don'tlisten to him.
Like, it was because of you wereraised alone, and of course you
ended up this way.
You didn't have you know a bunchof scientists taking care of you
on an island, giving you a bookstory.
Are you still at the three and ahalf?
You know, I like the three and aheart.

(01:58:42):
I do like because it is.
It's like it that's I was likethe half.
It's like it's endearing.
Like there's something about itthat's like, ah, like it had
some really good moments, eventhough like it's just a it's a
roller coaster of thingshappening.
So I think I'll go with like athree.

SPEAKER_03 (01:58:56):
So you're coming down, but you're staying the
same because the the half isbecoming the heart.

SPEAKER_08 (01:59:00):
It's yeah, it was that's a better way of
describing it, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 (01:59:04):
How many wheelies is it?
As we're trying to figure outmath as we do on this program.
How many wheelies are we doing?

SPEAKER_08 (01:59:10):
I think how many wheels is it?
It's well three, three separatecars.
How much do I have to learn?
It's three, it's a it's a set oftriplet cars all on two wheels.

SPEAKER_06 (01:59:20):
There's so much learning.
Learning is so fun.
See my movie kindergarten cop.
I teach you.
My mother was a teacher, myfather was a teacher.

SPEAKER_08 (01:59:31):
At least they didn't put the strollers on wheelies.
They didn't do anything withthem.

SPEAKER_03 (01:59:35):
Jingle in all the way, they would be okay.
So you threes and hearts.
Three milkshakes and a heart,three wheelshakes.

SPEAKER_08 (01:59:42):
You know, you gotta just take your like this was
made in the 80s, you gotta gointo it with that.
And then also know, like, it'sjust gonna be it's it's a movie
called Twins starring DannyDeVito and Arnold Schwartz.

SPEAKER_03 (01:59:52):
You know exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_08 (01:59:53):
So don't be going in as you think.

SPEAKER_03 (01:59:55):
Yeah.
Don't go in with highexpectations and then expect
your high expectation to beblown the fuck up.
Away by the amount of storylinesand what they infer.

SPEAKER_08 (02:00:02):
Yeah, don't go for like the storytelling, but go
for like the heart and thecomedy.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:06):
Yeah, it's charming.
And open yourself up if youhaven't yet.
Oh boy, be careful.
If you haven't yet, to comedicactor Schwarzenegger.
Yeah, it's fun.
Right?
You understand why he was inBatman and Robin?
Because he's the iceman.
He's the ice.
So cool.
Everybody chill.

SPEAKER_06 (02:00:27):
I let you bite my nose off if you want.
He's so sexy.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:32):
Our themes on the bookends are Jamie Henwood.
What are we doing?
And what are we watching?
Is Matthew Foskett.
Fun facts are Chris Old's andthe interstitials are by you
know the usual, the normal, theregular.
Not that you're non- No, I'm aregular.

SPEAKER_08 (02:00:54):
I get it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:55):
Yeah, well, me too.
That's part of the reason whyI've got to stop recording.
Ben will be back soon before youknow it.
But Bruce, thank you so much forjoining me.
This was great.
I had a lot of fun.
Right?
And now you get to listen tothis podcast.
It's almost certainly longerthan the movie.

SPEAKER_08 (02:01:11):
Yeah, I'm really excited to hear the solo version
of this podcast.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:15):
We had a good time talking about twins.
Go read something.
Not about uh reproduction.

SPEAKER_08 (02:01:21):
You know what?
I mean, what read aboutreproduction or don't read about
reproduction, or you know, readabout whatever you want,
whatever floats your boat.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:26):
Oh, that's a good idea.
Oh, I guess that's what I'mtaking.

SPEAKER_08 (02:01:28):
You know, how about this?
Read something that will let youlearn something.
Vroom vroom.

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