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SPEAKER_03 (00:03):
This is my uh cousin's place.

SPEAKER_05 (00:05):
Come on in.
Do you even have a cousin?
Are you talking about your firstcousin?

SPEAKER_03 (00:11):
The one I think I might replace the cabinets in my
kitchen tonight.
Are you even listening anymore?
That's how the movie starts.

SPEAKER_05 (00:20):
But your cousin's so hot.
But it's okay.
It's your first cousin.
Because it's your first cousin.

SPEAKER_03 (00:26):
I mmm is that how that works?
Yeah.
That's that's pretty spooky.

SPEAKER_05 (00:30):
It's 69 degrees outside.
Oh hey, Ben.
What the fuck is going on here?

SPEAKER_03 (00:35):
Oh, well, what's going on here, folks?
Welcome in to the Mr.

SPEAKER_05 (00:41):
Ed.

SPEAKER_03 (00:45):
What the hell?
I'm surprised Mr.
Ed wasn't one of the options onthe whiteboard.
Yeah, they do.
It probably was.
They do have a unicorn.

SPEAKER_05 (00:52):
They do have kind of a fucking super evil Mr.
Ed, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (00:56):
Yeah.
Welcome in, folks, to the reviewreview.
There's a fly in my house onceagain.
Not the fly, but a fly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03):
It's gonna fuck you.
It's gonna fuck you so good.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06):
If it's Jeff Goldblum, I might let it get
fucked.
Well, if you're tuning in forthe first time, you're tuning in
during spoogie season of thereview review.
This is scary.
It's super scary.
The review review, what is it?
What do we do here?
We're a movie podcast.
We are two co-hosts.
My name is Ben or Boo McFadden,like scary boo.

(01:30):
I should have come up withsomething better, but I didn't.
I'm just going with putrid PaulPaul!

SPEAKER_05 (01:35):
Did that scare you?
Ooh.
Sure, but I thought I'd bepowerful Paul.
Pow pow powerful Paul.

SPEAKER_01 (01:43):
Cocaine.

SPEAKER_03 (01:44):
All right.
I'll go with that.
Sure, buddy.
It's your it's your spouse.
It's one of the monsters.
It's a spooky season.
It's it's it's it's Paul'sfavorite season.
This podcast that Paul presents.
I ran out.
Uh oh my god, this fly.

SPEAKER_05 (02:01):
We I produce it, that's for certain.
We I'm one of the producers.

SPEAKER_03 (02:05):
We usually have a guest.
That guest usually brings us amovie, something seven years or
older, something they feelpassionate about, they want to
rewatch, revisit, and then weall re-watch it.
We come back together, we talk,we chat, we laugh, and we see if
our rating system out of fivehas altered over the course of
the conversation.

(02:26):
In this case, we don't have aguest, unless that guest is a
ghost.
Is it a ghost guest, or is itjust a ghost?

SPEAKER_05 (02:33):
Is that what that smell is?

SPEAKER_03 (02:35):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (02:36):
Is that ghost okay?

SPEAKER_03 (02:38):
Farting ghost.

SPEAKER_05 (02:39):
You know that they leave emanations.
We've gone over this.

SPEAKER_03 (02:43):
There are ghosts in this movie.
This was a you choose episodefrom our Instagram poll on
Review X2 Podcast on Instagram.
You should follow us.
We put up fun polls, and thiswas the winner.
Cabin in the woods.

SPEAKER_05 (02:57):
I do find it interesting that our finalists
in this were Cabin in the Woods.
Tales from the Crypt presentsDemon Knight, which was my pick.
Cabin in the woods, yours.
Both movies about groups ofpeople being trapped in houses
or locations.
It's a good one for a period oftime.

SPEAKER_03 (03:16):
The other two that got blasted out were uh the host
and that other you know, theother one that I picked.

SPEAKER_05 (03:24):
That's who's its who's its, yep.
The host didn't I did not get avote.

SPEAKER_03 (03:30):
I think we've tried that set.
I think we've tried the hostseveral times.
A couple few times.
And people just aren't feelingthe the Bong Jun Ho of it, I
guess.

SPEAKER_05 (03:38):
I guess not.
And Demon Knight comes close.
Yeah, it's been involved a fewtimes, so we it'll keep coming
around.

SPEAKER_03 (03:44):
But you chose, if you're listening to this and you
pick clicked that button and youchose Cabin in the Woods, that
is what we are doing tonight.
It's true.
Cabin in the Woods.
But before we do that, Paul,what you been doing?

SPEAKER_05 (04:21):
The original Fright Night.
Yeah, Charlie Brewster, ChrisSarandon.

SPEAKER_03 (04:27):
Yeah.
I do like I like both FrightNights actually.

SPEAKER_05 (04:30):
Oh man, we've talked about this before that the
remake is maybe, depending onwho you talk to, just about
equal to the original.
The original is very, veryspecial, don't get me wrong, but
they're both pretty greatmovies.
Then I've had like this handinjury that has been driving me
nuts forever.
I basically tripped oversomething and like punched the
ground to like catch myself witha closed fist, and it was very

(04:52):
painful.
I've had to put ice on it offand on, and I have to pop it and
I have to stretch it andreposition it and alternate
things and Arnica gel and allthis stuff, and it's just
driving me crazy.
And I like to make myself meals,as we've talked about on here.
It's good to eat.
It is.
I let Robin, Red, the redRobino, make me a meal this

(05:18):
evening.
Went with the Klux and fries.
Oh, classic.
A classic.
Bottomless.
Enjoyed the heck out of it.

SPEAKER_03 (05:25):
Love that fry seasoning.

SPEAKER_05 (05:27):
Absolutely.
So save my hand, the tirednessand the pain.
Yeah.
And had a delicious all-Americanfried meal.

SPEAKER_03 (05:37):
Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (05:38):
Ben, what have you been doing?

SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
I love a good chicken strip, chicken nug
situation with some fries.

SPEAKER_05 (05:44):
Absolutely.
Give me two.

SPEAKER_03 (05:46):
Top tier.
Top tier.
Good dips.
Good, you know, get some gooddips in there.

SPEAKER_05 (05:52):
That's what the they're they're calling us in
the reviews.
Good dips.
They're pretty good dips.

SPEAKER_03 (05:58):
So one of my favorite meals growing up was
chicken strips, corn, andmacaroni and cheese.
It's what I got my papa to makeanytime I was visiting my
grandparents.

SPEAKER_05 (06:07):
Well, and if you needed, you had to make sure you
got all your different forms ofstarch.

SPEAKER_03 (06:12):
Of course.

SPEAKER_05 (06:13):
Your yeah, your pasta starch, your vegetable
starch, and your breadingstarch.

SPEAKER_03 (06:20):
My grandparents made like fried bar food for us and
it was just my chicken strips inhoney back in the day.

SPEAKER_05 (06:27):
That was that's very advanced.

SPEAKER_03 (06:30):
I liked it.

SPEAKER_05 (06:30):
Because now people are doing like the Mike's hot
honey is the big thing.
It took me until I was how oldam I now?
I'm 72 years old.
No, wait, I'm almost 91 yearsold.
That's something Mariner's 91,92, somewhere in there, but it
took me until well into my teensor 20s to understand the

(06:54):
greatness of honey.

SPEAKER_03 (06:56):
Honey is pretty a pretty magical substance.
It comes from bees.
There's so many things at theend of this movie.
Yeah.
Uh what have I been doing?
Um, great question.
Uh I uh didn't plan anything tosay, so I'm going to say You're

(07:19):
kidding me.
Yeah, I know, right?

SPEAKER_05 (07:21):
No fucking way.

SPEAKER_03 (07:22):
I know.
I'm so good at ad-libbing, youcouldn't tell.

SPEAKER_05 (07:25):
Um but I am trying to try some improvisational
comedy now.

SPEAKER_03 (07:32):
And um yes, uh, yes, Tylenol.
It's bad, it's not good.
Don't take it.

SPEAKER_05 (07:40):
Um, no, no, bad happened, only good happen half
happened half happened, good canhappen.

SPEAKER_03 (07:47):
Nothing bad can happen.
It can only be what are wedoing?
Uh we're so screwed.
Not even a year, Paul.
Not even a year.
Oh, yeah.
I guess I've been I've beenworried about the fate of our
country in some ways, but alsomostly worried about the you
know, uh, the assault on freedomof speech and this idea that

(08:08):
anybody we talk movies here, butwe try to be funny.
We like to talk truth to people.

SPEAKER_05 (08:13):
We try, and you can feel it.
What?
Yeah, we can feel the push ofit.

SPEAKER_03 (08:17):
But I think like we also like to push against, and
no one's ever gonna listenenough to us or think that we're
worth silencing in any capacity.
But I I do think that it waslike fascinating over the last
week to just like hear therhetoric, uh, the outcry and the
and the concerns around justtaking people.
You know what I was thinking of?
Have you seen uh V for Vendetta?

(08:39):
You know how in that, like theone of the first uh friend, the
um the host of that comedytalks.

SPEAKER_05 (08:46):
Yeah, it's like Stephen Fry or someone that
looks like Stephen Fry, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:50):
Some yeah, and that he like does a puppet of their
like dictator replacement orwhatever, and then he's like
fucking murdered.
It's dictatorship 101.
You know, we're just letting ithappen.
And luckily there was pushbackand it like came back, but it's
still I don't know, man.
There's this there's just likewe're on the precipice of
something that is is either likecould be really great in

(09:14):
changing how this shit goes, orit could be really, really
fucking awful.
I was really pissed for a lot ofthis last week.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 (09:23):
Makes me want to sit on a knife.

SPEAKER_03 (09:24):
That was a long time ago now, if you listen to this.
So the world's probably ended.
Everything's spooky.

SPEAKER_05 (09:30):
Yeah, we're both we're both in prison.

SPEAKER_03 (09:32):
These giant and these giant gods came out of the
earth and destroyed everything.
And you know what?
It's done.
Frankly, uh we're probably fine.

SPEAKER_05 (09:41):
You know, in this case, I would support the ending
of that movie in this case.

SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 (10:14):
Me, you, you, me, me.
Talk about it.

SPEAKER_05 (10:16):
Me, me?

SPEAKER_02 (10:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (10:18):
It's spooky season.
Okay.
We're gonna get back to it.
We shed our little tear for theincredible Robert Redford and we
meaning me.

SPEAKER_03 (10:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (10:28):
I started the Chucky television series.
Okay.
We're in the thick of spookyseason.
No, it's Brad Doroff, does thevoice.
Okay.
It's Don Mancini who originatedthe franchise.
I really like the first child'splay movie.
Oh, I like the way it's lit, Ilike the puppetry, I like the

(10:49):
way it's shot, you know,suspension of disbelief.
It does ask a good amount fromyou, but the ride is pretty fun,
yeah, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 (10:58):
I like that movie.

SPEAKER_05 (10:59):
Yeah, and boy, man.
Just the way that you can kindof telegraph what's gonna
happen, and it's not that theshow is not decent, it
absolutely is.
It's just not for me.
It's it's very melodramatic.
Some of the the threat that wasChucky in the first one, outside

(11:21):
of like, oh my gosh, are theygonna hurt this kid in this
movie?
Like, this child is in peril,and that always feels like its
own device.
Yeah, but this movie that likethis movie, this show, there is
no sense of dread watching thatpilot, and they also kill a cat.
So I was just like, I don'tthink so.
Yeah, I don't think so, whichwas like kind of a bummer

(11:43):
because I was like, Oh, cool,we're in spooky season.
There's a couple seasons of thisshow, maybe you know, it'll
spark something, and I'll yeah,watch it through.
And we gave it a shot.
We gave it a shot.

SPEAKER_03 (11:55):
Then do you have a favorite horror series?

SPEAKER_05 (11:58):
It's nightmare on Elm Street, like hard in the
paint, dunking at home,backboard coming down, glass
raining everywhere, the wholething.
Do you?
I know that's not really yourthing as much.

SPEAKER_03 (12:12):
I mean, I do enjoy a good horror series.
Uh do I have a favorite though?
Um, I'm trying to think ifthere's anything I've gone back
to.
Do Twin Peaks count?

SPEAKER_05 (12:22):
I mean, it's an existential horror.
Yeah.
That's kind of horrifyingimagery.

SPEAKER_03 (12:28):
Uh, especially actually, I really like the
second season of American HorrorStory.
I enjoyed that a lot.
That that series kind of wenton.
Which one is that?
That's the Insane Asylum.
There's an episode in that withfuck, what's his name?
Um, from Justified.
No, not Justified.
Timothy Oliphant?
Uh yeah, no, he's in this othershow.
The the show Peters?

(12:49):
Timothy Oliphant was in beforeJustified the Western show.
What was that?
Deadwood?
Deadwood.
With Ian McShane in him?
Yeah, Ian McShane.
There's an episode with IanMcShane where he plays like a
Santa Claus.
Oh.
Who like Cyril kills onChristmas Eve.
And it's like just a boss.

SPEAKER_04 (13:05):
Silent night, deadly night, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:07):
Yeah.
And it's I remember that episodevery vividly.
It's great.
Um yeah.
I mean, I think that series,Ryan Murphy went off the rails
at some point.
The cocaine got too high, andthe parties, Hollywood parties
were too fun, and I don't knowwhat happened, but I used to
like some of his stuff.

SPEAKER_05 (13:24):
So I like the first season of American Horror Story.
Yeah, me too.
I like the first season too.
It was a haunted housesituation.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:31):
Speaking of haunted houses, I so I watched I
finished Spooky, I finishedAlien Earth.
Oh, you know, gotta bring itfull circle here.

SPEAKER_04 (13:38):
I I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03 (13:39):
So I finished Alien Earth.
I'm so excited for a secondseason if it ever gets if it
they better, they better.
I don't want to say anythingmore, but they better green
light it, or I might be very,very, very upset with how that
does no Holly want to do it?

SPEAKER_05 (13:53):
Do you know?

SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
They have to.
I mean, not to give it away, butthere's not there's there's not
there's just not like adefinitive resolution.
I can't imagine they don't.
And so right after I uh Ifinished it, because that series
does such a good job of sort oflike giving a reference to a
bunch of different alienproperties, um, and so I just
went right into watching aliens,alien dollar sign.

SPEAKER_05 (14:17):
What a movie.

SPEAKER_03 (14:19):
Yeah, what a movie.
Wow.
And you know, spooky season.
Listen to our alien v aliendollar sign episode, uh, listen
to our alien three episode.
Absolutely.
We Xeno Xeno, we love Xenopornhere.

SPEAKER_05 (14:33):
We have like gone pretty in-depth with that
series, maybe more so than anyother series.
Not that we touch a lot of thosehere.

SPEAKER_03 (14:39):
If we ever want to do if we want to do an angry
episode where we're both mad, weshould do Prometheus or Alien
Card.
I think that's your favoritehorror series.
Oh, I was talking like seriousokay.
So here's where we're confused.

SPEAKER_05 (14:52):
Oh, you were asking me about a television show.
Yeah.
Holy smokes.
I don't know.
I really liked of things thatare more recent, I guess, if
nothing else.
I thought Midnight Mass waspretty good.

SPEAKER_03 (15:04):
I really enjoyed it.
Midnight Mass was great.
I almost re started rewatchingthat actually.
Talk about not a Stephen King,but feels like Stephen King.

SPEAKER_05 (15:11):
Oh, what that which seems to almost always be the
goal from that filmmaker.

SPEAKER_03 (15:17):
Flanagan, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (15:18):
Yeah.
Which I mean, I don't have aproblem with that.
No, I'm totally good with that.

SPEAKER_03 (15:23):
I mean, it was kind of like a better version of
Salem's lot in some way.

SPEAKER_05 (15:26):
Absolutely, it was.
Yeah.
And uh, I want to say for thosewho are listening, when Ben
said, What's your favoriteseries?
And I said, A Nightmare in ElmStreet, no, that doesn't mean
Freddie's Nightmares.
Weirdos.

SPEAKER_03 (15:38):
I was gonna, I thought, yeah, freakos.

SPEAKER_05 (15:40):
No, but I mean William Bradley Pitt shows up,
Mariska Hargate, various otherrecognizable people, baby.
Freddie's nightmares.

SPEAKER_04 (15:50):
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
I'm so ready.
Let's go.
Let's go in.
Facts, bitch.
Archaeology is the search forfacts.

SPEAKER_05 (16:04):
Okay, we watched The Cabin in the Woods.
This was produced by MutantEnemy, an MGM.
It was distributed by Lionsgate.
It is rated R.
It was released in a big kind ofrelease more so in 2012, but
2011, and it's an hour and 35minutes.
Budget on this film was$30million.

(16:25):
That's$43.2 million adjusted.
Opening weekend wide release wasApril 13, 2012.
Is that a Friday?
December 2011 for severaldifferent festivals,$14.7
million opening weekend,$21.1million adjusted.
Final gross in North America,$42million.

(16:47):
That's$60.4 million.
Final gross worldwide,$70million.
This made$100 million adjusted.
Not too shabby.
Other releases this weekend.
The Fairly Brothers, threestooges.
What was better between ThreeStooges and Green Book?
Don't fuck around.

(17:09):
Be serious.

SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
What was better?
I would say Three Stooges wasmore racist.

SPEAKER_05 (17:15):
Oh, you know my answer either way?
Better to die.
Better to die.

SPEAKER_03 (17:20):
Green Book was funnier.

SPEAKER_05 (17:26):
Lockout.
Woman, thou art loosed on theseventh day.
What?
Those were the releases thatweekend.

SPEAKER_03 (17:35):
That's not a thing.

SPEAKER_05 (17:36):
That is look it up.

SPEAKER_03 (17:37):
I don't want to.
Look it up.
I really don't want to.
I don't want anyone in the roomthat I Google searched that.

SPEAKER_05 (17:47):
Weekend top five.
The Hunger Games.
The Three Stooges.
This movie.
Dark Time.
Dark Time as well.
Wow.
Other films from 2012, Jack andJill, The Apparition, Gone,
Dread, Silent Hill, Revelation,Katy Perry, Part of Me, and

(18:12):
Arbitrage.

SPEAKER_03 (18:13):
Is Dread the best movie of the year?
I mean probably.
That movie's incredible.

SPEAKER_05 (18:18):
That apparently Alex Garland actually directed
secretly, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 (18:22):
He wrote the script, right?

SPEAKER_05 (18:24):
That's the rumor is that he basically directed the
fucking movie, too.

SPEAKER_03 (18:27):
It is I it is so solid.
It's movie very good.

SPEAKER_05 (18:31):
Yeah.
Visually and storytelling-wiseand everything.
I mean, consider thrillers orhigh suspense movies that take
place in like essentially likeone location that you can't
escape, similar to.
I mean, that's that's the creamof that crap.

SPEAKER_06 (18:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (18:49):
Letterboxed averaged 3.4.
Follow us, won't you?
I'm at run BMC.
I'm at Paul Axe Badly.
There ain't no guest.
We don't need no guests.

SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
You can ask my cousin.

SPEAKER_05 (19:01):
Your cousin's pretty hot.
Thanks.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
We used to, we used to we used to have a thing.

SPEAKER_05 (19:09):
Never got past first place.
Leonard Moulton says, yes, watchthis movie.
Rotten Tomatoes 92%, 74%popcorn, Metacritic 72, 7.4
user.
Major award wins a nomination.

unknown (19:28):
What?

SPEAKER_05 (19:29):
Nation.
Nations.
Saturn.
Best horror.
Brahm Stoker Award for BestHorror Screenplay.
And it was a critic's choicenominee for Best Horror Film.

SPEAKER_02 (19:42):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (19:43):
Ben.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:44):
Talk about peeper.
The director of this movie,Kevin in the Woods, is Drew
Goddard, not Joss Whedon, assome people think.
Bad Times at El Royale, the goodplace.
Bad Times at El Royale is aawesome movie.

SPEAKER_05 (19:57):
I need to rewatch that movie.

SPEAKER_03 (19:59):
I really like that movie.
It's very like Tarantino coded.
I really enjoy that movie.
Uh writers, Drew Goddard, TheMartian, World War Z, and Joss
Whedon, aforementioned, TitanA.E.
Director of Photography, PeterDeming, The Menu, Muhalin Drive,
Drag Me to Hell.
All very good looking movies.

(20:19):
What a talented person.
This movie looks great.
Music, David Julian, ThePrestige, The Descent,
Heartless.
Producers, Jason Clark, Ed, 42,and Josh Whedon in your eyes,
and a lot of other things.
Starring in this movie, KristenConnolly as Dana, The Happening,

(20:40):
The Bay, Meet Dave.
Happening was a movie I rentedfrom Blockbuster, and I watched
15 minutes of it and went, no,thank you.

SPEAKER_05 (20:47):
What?
No.

SPEAKER_03 (20:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (20:49):
No, Kurt, I'm producing Entourage.
Watch my movie, The Happening.
You're gonna like it.
Ah, come on, play the top.

SPEAKER_03 (20:57):
You're gonna kill yourself because there's a
plant.
Say what up to your mother forme.

SPEAKER_05 (21:00):
You want me to hug my cousin?
Look at her.

SPEAKER_03 (21:02):
Chris Hemsworth plays Kurt.
A young Chris Hemsworth playsKurt.
Rush, Black Hat, Thor, the DarkWorld.
The worst one.
Anna Hutchison plays Jules.
Robert the Bruce Encounter andBachelor's.
Franz Kranz plays Marty.
The Dark Tower, The Village,Fanboy.
Jesse Williams plays Holden.

(21:24):
Brooklyn's Finest, Your PlaceAre Mine, The Butler.
Richard Jenkins plays Citerson,Step Brothers, Spotlight, Jack
Reacher.
I love him.
He's so funny.

SPEAKER_05 (21:33):
Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_03 (21:34):
Bradley Whitford plays Hadley, Billy Madison, get
out, scent of a woman.
Oh, Eric's gonna have a baby.
Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_05 (21:42):
He's gonna be a Jacob player.

SPEAKER_03 (21:44):
Eric drinks his own pee.
Brian White plays Truman.
Brick Stomp the Yard, the gameplan.
Game plan!

SPEAKER_05 (21:54):
Hey, listen to our game plan episode.

SPEAKER_03 (21:57):
Cornish's chosen son, Charles Norris.
Amy Acker plays Lynn.
Catch me if you can.
Dear Santa, ordinary angels, andTim Desarn plays Mordecai.
Gone in 60 seconds.
Tim Desarn! I'm just saying ithow his name is Tim Desarn.
Desarn.
Tim Desarn.

(22:17):
Gone in 60 seconds.
Fight Club.
Tales from the Crypt DemonKnight.
Oh, we were gonna get Desarn.
Double Desarn.

SPEAKER_05 (22:25):
No matter what.

SPEAKER_03 (22:26):
A double Desarn.

SPEAKER_05 (22:28):
We were gonna get a Darn it Darnold no matter how we
did it.

SPEAKER_03 (22:30):
Darn it Darnold.
Double Desarn Demon Knight.
Alright, Paul.
Fun facts?

SPEAKER_05 (22:36):
Yeah, let's have some fun.
Fun facts, fun facts, everybody.
It's fun fact time.
Times noodles out.
Marty, the character played byFran Krans, stays clothed in the
doc scene because Fran Krans wasin as good or better shape than
the other male actors playingstudents.

(22:57):
In the commentary for the film,the writers joke that he was
ripped like a muscular Jesus.
Hence his baggy and strangeclothes throughout.
You can tell that guy is fuckingripped, by the way.
His shoulders are a perfectline.

SPEAKER_03 (23:16):
I know him.
I knew him from watchingDollhouse.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
I mean, he played like a nerd inthat, but he was also like a
love interest.
So you were like, oh yeah, thatdude's for Eliza Dushku.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah, I do love my Eliza Dushka.
I love that show.
I actually I'm a big earlyWhedon fan, and I all the shit

(23:38):
that he has done since whatever,like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (23:42):
I like a lot of what I've seen of Buffy.
Sorry, yeah.
I love I was a big fan of watchfrom start to finish, but I like
a lot of what I've seen.
Yeah.
I'm a casual man.
Yeah.
I didn't watch Firefly, but Iwatched Serenity and I was like,
this is great.

SPEAKER_03 (23:57):
Oh yeah.
Firefly's great too.

SPEAKER_05 (23:59):
Everybody says, and I believe it.

SPEAKER_03 (24:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (24:01):
Drew Goddard and Joss Whedon wrote the script in
three days.
Insane.
Insane to me.
Chris Hemsworth booked the RedDawn remake and the Kenneth
Brana Thor while filming thismovie.
Thor was released before both asa result of the MGM bankruptcy

(24:22):
and sale that was revolvingaround this movie being kind of
in flux.
Lionsgate loved this movie andpicked it up for distribution
rights in turnaround.
And basically what that means isMGM couldn't afford to put the
movie out.
They used the movie that theyowned at the time as leverage to

(24:44):
buy themselves out of some debt,so they sold those distribution
rights to Lionsgate.
Kevin, one of the monsters onthe whiteboard, is a tribute to
the Elijah Wood character of thesame name from the movie and
graphic novel Sin City, movie2005, directed by Robert
Rodriguez, graphic novel FrankMiller.

(25:05):
And in addition, Goddard andWheaton created 60 other
original monsters for this film.
That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 (25:13):
Well, semi-original, right?
Like probably like sure.

SPEAKER_05 (25:17):
I agree with that a thousand percent.

SPEAKER_03 (25:19):
But I think that's kind of the purpose.
Like there's just so much homagein this movie.

SPEAKER_05 (25:23):
Yeah.
It's a our our werewolf had likea little pat like a patch here.
It's like theirs goes doom doomdoom chick doom doom.
And our has doom doom doomchicko.

SPEAKER_03 (25:31):
Our hellraiser has blades coming out of it.

SPEAKER_05 (25:33):
Exactly.
That's not pinhead, that's sawface.
Yeah.
Thermal coffee mug bong was afully functional mug and bong.

SPEAKER_03 (25:44):
That's incredible.

SPEAKER_05 (25:45):
As portrayed in this movie.
The prototype that was actuallymade cost five thousand dollars,
and certainly it was worth everyfucking penny.

SPEAKER_03 (25:56):
As Paul pulls it, you own that.
He is currently smoking out ofit.
I thought that was coffee thiswhole time.

SPEAKER_05 (26:04):
You wouldn't pull a nice man over that's just
drinking a delicious warmbeverage.

SPEAKER_03 (26:10):
He is very funny in this movie.

SPEAKER_05 (26:11):
Just leave me alone.
You can you want to tell thepeople the log line?

SPEAKER_03 (26:14):
I'll tell the people the log line.
I'll tell all of you, mycousins, this log line.
A group of kids goes to a go toa remote cabin in the woods
where their fate is unknowinglycontrolled by technicians as
part of a worldwide conspiracywhere all horror movie cliches
are revealed to be an elaboratesacrifice ritual.

SPEAKER_05 (26:35):
Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 (26:36):
That's a long log line.

SPEAKER_05 (26:38):
That's intense.
That's a situation I'd love tobe stuck in, my cousin.
He's resourceful, he could getus out.
So forget about cuff.
I'm gonna come back.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (26:46):
I don't bring I'm gonna bring choppers.
We're gonna take this wholeplace down.
It's such good comic timing.

SPEAKER_05 (26:53):
That speech that apparently got him a few
different roles, he really doesfucking nail it.

SPEAKER_03 (26:58):
He does, and then the is so well timed after that.
Like the comic.

SPEAKER_05 (27:04):
We're gonna get into this movie when we get back from
this break after marrying ourcousins, because they're so
attractive.

SPEAKER_03 (27:11):
Oh, I didn't know that was it.
I don't endorse that sounds toospooky for me.

SPEAKER_05 (27:26):
Tony, get the fuck out.
Get the fuck out of here.
We're back!

SPEAKER_03 (27:30):
We are back to this spooky episode.
This is spicy.
That's got to be by yourcousins, which are you hanging
out with cousins?
That can be dangerous.

SPEAKER_05 (27:39):
That can be that's get spicy.
You're at a family reunion,something like that, you know?

SPEAKER_03 (27:44):
You're like, oh she's cute, who's that?
And she's like, that's yourcousin.

SPEAKER_05 (27:48):
And then you're like, first cousin, and they're
like, yeah.
And you're like, you wanna getout of here?

SPEAKER_03 (27:53):
So we watch You wanna get a subway sandwich?

SPEAKER_05 (27:56):
You wanna get out of here?
Get a subway sandwich?

SPEAKER_03 (27:59):
That is dangerous.
Be careful though.

SPEAKER_04 (28:10):
Moonball.

SPEAKER_03 (28:12):
We watched Cabin in the Woods.
That's the episode you arelistening to.
Oh spooky episode of ReviewReview.
Sans a guest, no guests, nocousins, no ghosts, just me and
Paul being dips.

SPEAKER_05 (28:25):
And whatever is making that foul emanation.
Yes.
That's my dips.
Uh see a doctor.
Watched Cabin in the Woods andknow we don't have a guest, but
Ben, do you have the cardshandy?

SPEAKER_03 (28:38):
You mean my whore crux?

SPEAKER_05 (28:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (28:41):
Okay, I was gonna say, because I mean you're gonna
kill me unless you get thesecards for me.

SPEAKER_05 (28:46):
I was gonna say you're physically here digitally
with me and not six foot underthe ground with an epitaph, so
you must have the cards.

SPEAKER_03 (28:55):
We are at least 500 feet away.

SPEAKER_05 (28:56):
It's true.
Who gets the freebie, you or me?
I guess you should just take itsince you're sitting there.

SPEAKER_03 (29:01):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:02):
Just pick a card, pal.

SPEAKER_03 (29:04):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:05):
And read it out loud in Latin.

SPEAKER_03 (29:07):
For you who are just tuning in, we play a game of
Cinephile to determine the orderof who tells their story of
watching this movie for thefirst time and the most recent
time.
It is a card game uh that has anactor on it and a movie, and we
basically play round robin toname a movie that actor puts in
until one of us can't.
That's basically it.
Let's see what I got.
I got I don't know if we've hadthis one.

(29:27):
I need you to remain calm.
I need you to get ready becauseit is Sir Vester Salone.
I just turned around.

SPEAKER_06 (29:36):
Oh, Paul, I need you to get the switch that goes on.
When the switch goes on, I feellike I've got the first switch.

SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
I'm gonna go with first blood.
I feel like a demolition man.
Um I will go with Rambo two?

SPEAKER_05 (29:54):
I'll give it to you.

SPEAKER_01 (29:55):
What's the subtitle?

SPEAKER_05 (29:57):
First blood Rambo two.

SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Oh okay.

SPEAKER_05 (30:01):
First blood two, Rambo.
That's who cares.
I'll just say Rambo three.

SPEAKER_03 (30:04):
Okay.
I I know there's like I d I Idon't know if do we need the
subtitles for these?
Because I know there's fourRambo four.

SPEAKER_05 (30:12):
I think I think we can let that happen.
Yeah.
As long as I can do Rambo LastBlood, which I believe is the
fifth.

SPEAKER_03 (30:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
I believe that's right.
Um The Expendables.

SPEAKER_05 (30:23):
Expendables two.

SPEAKER_03 (30:24):
The Expendables III.
The Expendables Four.
Spy Kids?

SPEAKER_05 (30:30):
Paradise Alley.

SPEAKER_03 (30:33):
Jesus.
That's a deep cut.
I've never heard of that movie.
Um your big sliced alone.
Let's go.
Did we do Rocky yet?

SPEAKER_05 (30:42):
No.

SPEAKER_03 (30:43):
Rocky II.
Rocky III.
Rocky Four.
Rocky Bal Ba or Rocky Five?
Those are two different movies,aren't they?

SPEAKER_05 (30:52):
Yeah, I'll just take I'll take the opposite one.
Okay.
Your turn again.

SPEAKER_03 (30:57):
Creed?
Creed two.
This is a good this is a goodmass.
This is around.
I'm just gonna take I'm sure Icould sit here and think of one,
but I I don't have oneimmediately in my head, so I'll
take the L.

SPEAKER_05 (31:09):
Okay.
Nighthawks over the top, and theparty at Stud and Kitties, and
Oscar and Stopper My Mom willshoot.
I'll go with those.

SPEAKER_03 (31:19):
I was proud of my spy kids poll.

SPEAKER_05 (31:20):
That was pretty good.
I was a little surprised bythat.

SPEAKER_03 (31:24):
Anytime I can bring spy kids into the conversation,
I will.

SPEAKER_05 (31:28):
Absolutely positively.
I was also gonna say Guardiansof the Galaxy.

SPEAKER_03 (31:32):
Oh yeah, and Guardians Galaxy 2.
Yeah, and technically theSuicide Squad.

SPEAKER_05 (31:37):
Absolutely is the shark monster thing.
This is the thing that Inormally will feel really
confident about when we do thoselike action titans, when those
pop up, I'm gonna be able to gofor a bit.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (31:50):
Good thing he's also the um America's Hollywood back
to greatness.

SPEAKER_05 (31:56):
By the way, I uh am pleased that you were like, I'm
he wasn't in cleed three.
I'm not I'm not taking that.

SPEAKER_03 (32:04):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (32:05):
For you to move off Creed three because I I would
have called you on it.
I knew the way to go.
Way to go, baby.

SPEAKER_03 (32:10):
You know, I can I can get there sometimes, but I
knew I was screwed.

SPEAKER_05 (32:14):
Um it was a good match, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (32:17):
So I remember the first time I watched this movie
very, very vividly.
I was uh touring Shakespearearound Washington State in a van
with five other folks down bythe river, sometimes in the most
rural bumfuck areas ofWashington, eastern Washington
you could think of, where peopleat gas stations will probably
call your girlfriend a whore.

SPEAKER_05 (32:38):
Oh yes.

SPEAKER_03 (32:40):
Oh yes.
And we had our night free, and Ithink it was like let's all go
to a movie at uh this like smallmovie theater, and I I couldn't
even tell you what town we werein.
We were in one of the small asseastern Washington towns.
And I remember me and my friendBrandon, Brandon is a huge
horror movie guy.
Um, he does uh you saw his uhimprov troop Blood Squad.

(33:03):
They do an Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
So he he was like, I'm down tosee that.
I really want to.
And there was another girl inour cast, and she was like, I
don't know, it just looks dumb.
And we were like, it's it's not,it is kind of dumb, but it's not
it's not the dumb, bad, dumblike you think it is.

SPEAKER_05 (33:19):
It's intentional, it's intentionally being that,
yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:23):
And she was like, I don't know, I'm not really into
those into horror movies.
And we're like, no, but it's wethink it's like subversive or
comedic or whatever, and so weconvinced her to come see it,
and 15 minutes in she leaves,and she goes and watches Hunger
Games instead.

SPEAKER_05 (33:36):
Wow, yeah, left her fucking snacks or and like
afterwards we were like, Why didyou go?

SPEAKER_03 (33:43):
And she was like, Well, I like I told you, it's
dumb, and it it was dumb.
We were like, we then explainedthe entire movie to her, and she
was like, Oh, oh, like shedidn't realize that it was this
whole like deconstruction ofhorror tropes and shit like
that.

SPEAKER_05 (33:58):
It takes a while for that first scene to make sense
if you don't stick around.

SPEAKER_03 (34:03):
Yeah, especially when you leave, you're just
seeing like the beginning ofEvil Dead or something.
Yep.
I get it, but anyway, uh, Ireally enjoyed it.
I bought it uh once it cameavailable on the Blu-ray.
It has been a regular rotationfor me uh on during spooky
season in Halloween.
Oh I throw it on quite oftenduring on Halloween, if we have

(34:24):
folks over.
I love it as a background movie,and so I'm yeah, yeah, I I feel
really good about going to batfor this movie.
Um, I have some issues with theending, but I always enjoy this
movie.
It's such a fun time, and it'sso script is so quick and sharp
and it's tight.
So I'm gonna sit at four and ahalf.

(34:45):
Whoa! Four and a half husbandbulges.

SPEAKER_05 (34:50):
For those that are uneducated, that's a boner.

SPEAKER_03 (34:53):
He's got a he's got a husband bulge.

SPEAKER_05 (34:58):
We'll go into this.
We'll be talking about yourrating system at length the
length of a husband bulge.

SPEAKER_03 (35:04):
Yeah, it depends on the husband, really.

SPEAKER_05 (35:07):
I saw this movie in the theater opening weekend.
Don't remember any of the othercontext.
I'm sure it's not thatimportant.
Relaced his weed.
It could be, could havesomething to do with it.
And I know I've seen pieces ofthe movie since then, but that
was the only time I sat andactually watched the movie.

(35:29):
And I remember walking away, andwhen I saw pieces of it being
like, oh yeah, this is prettygood.
I have recommended this movie topeople with never really having
sat and watched it again.

SPEAKER_03 (35:42):
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 (35:43):
In one sitting.
So this is perfect for this.
Because it is the movie that Ihave absolutely been like, yep,
solid movie, good movie.
Should definitely watch thismovie, but I haven't seen it in
well over a decade.

SPEAKER_03 (35:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (36:00):
I would have, I guess, given it, it must have
been somewhere in theneighborhood of three and a
half.
Guess what my rating system hasbeen.

SPEAKER_03 (36:06):
Husband Bulges?

SPEAKER_05 (36:08):
No, it's the Bong Thermos.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's gotta be.
I'm a stereotype, right?
That's my archetype, right?
The fool.

SPEAKER_03 (36:16):
I mean, you would be a great, not not just as you as
a character, but you as anactor, you would play that role
really well.

SPEAKER_05 (36:22):
I appreciate that.
It's a role that would be reallyfun to play, I think.

SPEAKER_03 (36:25):
Yeah, I love the archetypes in this movie, and I
love how it very purposely goesfurther into them.
Keep going.

SPEAKER_05 (36:32):
No, I I want to keep what you just said because I
also want to say in this momentthat I want to give the script
credit while specificallyremoving a ton of credit for the
dialogue, but I like the way thescript is built and executed.
Yeah, it's re that is prettycool.
The the movie has someinteresting stuff in terms of

(36:55):
the tone that I think it mostlyjuggles pretty well, like which
is in this movie, can I sure wasprobably pretty difficult to do,
considering it rides a lot ofdifferent lines.
I was, and I watched this on HBOMax.
I was not in love with thevisual presentation, it seemed a
little over dark at times whereit was like, I don't know a

(37:19):
hundred percent what's going on.
Is that the movie?
Is that the presentation?
I'm watching it on streaming,eh?
Those sorts of things.
I like the practical effects.
Yeah, I don't love the digitaleffects.
And the movie feels there's alevel of, you know, we talk
about this with certain writersor directors or certain movies

(37:40):
or whatever, where there's alevel of like you feel like
somebody's masturbating whilethey're writing this and
laughing at their own jokes.
And that comes across in thismovie to me at times, but you
actually put it in a way, and itthis kind of happened to me with
Dawn of the Dead, and it'shappened to me with Underworld

(38:00):
and just some other horrormovies, where it's like, this is
such a perfectly fine likebackground movie or movie where
I think you can go to a horroraficionado or a horror novice
and go, yeah, Cabin in theWoods, similar to Dawn of the
Dead.
It's like, yeah, it's prettyinoffensive.
It's like it's not bad outright.
So I'm in a pretty sturdy threeextended bong thermoses.

(38:26):
I don't have a huge desire tosit and consume this very
seriously again, but this is oneof those rare things where you
said something about backgroundmovie, and I was like, I feel
like I could just have this onin the background and
occasionally tune in and belike, oh, fun at times.
I'm gonna go with the three.
I'm so shocked that you saidfour and a half.

(38:47):
I love that we're doing this.

SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
I find this, I find the script very smart.
I am ready to back it up.
Um to me, I would rather watchthis movie than so many of the
other things that it'sreferencing only due to how fun
this movie is.
Like how fun and fast this movieis.
Like I can, like you said, I canput this on during Halloween

(39:10):
while I'm decorating and justenjoy the shit out of it as
opposed to putting onHellraiser.

SPEAKER_05 (39:15):
Um yeah, that is a specific Yeah, but you're right.
Yes, there is imagery and stuffin this movie that makes you
think and feel things in termsof Clyde Cabal, Hellraiser, that
whole deal.
Let's just you wanna do it?
Should we do it?
Start the movie.

SPEAKER_04 (39:39):
And now, our feature presentation.

SPEAKER_03 (39:43):
Like casting the uh two sort of like people
controlling this, BradleyWhitford and Richard Jenkins,
inspired because both of them tome are so fucking good at
understated throwaway humor.
You know, we are jumped intothis seemingly like lab

(40:05):
situation or sort of worksituation that looks just like
it's like a water cooler talk.

SPEAKER_05 (40:09):
It's two dudes chatting at the fucking water
cooler about cabinets and worldpowers like falling.

SPEAKER_03 (40:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (40:17):
Like and it's very casual.

SPEAKER_03 (40:19):
It's very casual, and the whole like their
chemistry is great, and the youknow, Bradley Whitford's desire
to get his make his bet of whowhat he thinks.
We don't really know what'sfully going on at this point,
but I love no this sort of likeintroduction to something bigger

(40:39):
going on before we get to whatfeels very cliche.

SPEAKER_05 (40:44):
Coming into this movie for the first time in a
long time, totally forgot thatit starts out with these guys,
and that they have such anintricate, large role in this
movie.
I was like, I feel like theydon't really show up until like
act two, and I start the movieand I'm like, oh shit, wow.
I completely forgot how involvedthey are, as well as just one of

(41:10):
the things that I really try todo for movies with this podcast
is like listen really closely todialogue, like best that I can.
And when they're talking aboutSweden falling and it's just
between the US and Japan, andit's like, what the fuck is
going on here?
And it it starts off reallyinteresting, and it doesn't hurt

(41:30):
to like just like you cut to anidyllic neighborhood in this
kind of push-up shot of thisbeautiful house, and it I feel
so much of scream, like thisfeels like a Kevin Williamson
meets Kevin Smith, directed bysomething along those lines.
And there's even like a girldancing in her panties, like

(41:51):
right in the very beginning ofthe movie.
It goes into tropes like quickafter this, like, what the fuck
are we doing here?
And I mean that it's workingreally well.

SPEAKER_03 (41:58):
What I was quoting was like, they're just like
driving on the golf cart, andhe's like, Yeah, I might replace
my cabinets later.
Are you right?
Are you even listening to me?
And then it's just scream, likejust like jump scare, scream,
cabin in the woods, like reallyviolently on the screen.
The titles are great, and you'relike, What?
And then yeah, it cuts rightinto this like kind of a cliche
opening, kind of likescream-ish.
And to me, it's like I thinkJosh is uh accusations aside and

(42:23):
all that, and feel like he'sreally good at understanding
genre and understanding how toapproach genre in different
genres in different ways, andthat we start in this, yeah,
she's in her panties, and likeher best friend shows up, she's
dyed her hair blonde, and she'sgot a jockey, she's got a jockey

(42:46):
boyfriend, right, and then thislike hot new dude who's joining
their group, and she'sheartbroken over her professor
dumped her, and you're seeingall of her incredible drawings
and stuff, which like neverreally come back or play a part.

SPEAKER_05 (43:00):
But I do like it, it's funny because of course
you're thinking as thesegentlemen come in, and Chris
Hemsworth like makes thisawesome pass out to Jesse
Williams through a window, andit's like, holy shit, like sign
back.
But when he says, and you're notwearing pants, and it's very
it's like a casual aside, it'snot awkward, it's very breezy,

(43:22):
like in that moment.
I'm super locked in at this thisfirst.

SPEAKER_03 (43:28):
The the scene does a lot of other heavy lifting that
I really appreciate.
It does.
Is that it first off, it showshow how sort of like willing, I
forget her friend's name, um,Jules.
Willing how Jules is funny andhas like a good sense of humor
uh towards her boyfriend.
She's not like subversesubverting herself to him.

(43:50):
She's like, I learned it fromwatching you, like all this like
funny jokey stuff, and that Kurtis actually like intelligent,
and you know, he's a sociologymajor, which we love.

SPEAKER_05 (43:59):
The books, like the don't read that, read this.
Uh, like this is way better,more fun.

SPEAKER_03 (44:05):
But it's showing us that these characters who we're
going to watch fall farther awayfrom themselves, right?
Like, this is who they actuallyare.
Like Jesse Williams Holden,yeah, he's like a receiver for
the team, but like he seems likejust kind of a dorky dude and
kind of like well and he's likethe isn't he the scholar
archetype in the end?

SPEAKER_05 (44:25):
Yeah, so it it's one of those things where it is
doing something that is fun andoriginal in that it's doing so
many things with and againsttype with casting, yeah, but I
think are all kind of likeworking for me.
Like when Marty shows up, he'stotally playing type, like
goofy, shaggy hair, like I loveweed.

(44:50):
All these archetype type thingsare absolutely they're totally
working for me.
The idea, the concept that's inthe script, and the way that
they execute it and the detailsof it, that stuff definitely
works for me.
And I think the archetypes areso vital to this thing, and they

(45:13):
they really knocked it out ofthe park with that piece of it,
and to the with the casting.

SPEAKER_03 (45:17):
The casting strong.
But they get into Kurt's RV andthey're heading to Kurt's
cousins brought to you bycousins.
Sounds dangerous to me.
Uh cabin on the lake.
I see.
And we see uh right when theypull away, we see that there's

(45:37):
um somebody watching them fromthe roof.
So they're clearly beingsurveyed.
Yeah, like there's this there'sthis whole other conspiracy
going on.
But right now it's just likepretty by the book cliche horror
movie, five college kids headinto a cabin in the woods.

SPEAKER_05 (45:53):
But it does it for like a scene where we meet these
core characters, the the corefive characters, and then we go
back to the control room.
I know that that happened, but Ijust didn't I guess I didn't
remember that I spent as muchtime there as I did, but they're
talking about this very firstleg that these kids have to get

(46:16):
through of this kind of the gamesituation that they're in, that
they have to see the Harbingerwho is this gas station weirdo
who is also Homer in no, notthat Homer, Homer from Tales
from the Crypt Demon Knight TimDes Tim Desarn, Desarn Don,

(46:37):
Darnold, dang it, Don, Dan, Sam,Darn, Tim Desarn.
But the movie it starts doingthis, and I have mentioned this
about other properties, as we'vediscussed on this program.
I'm like, oh, Friday the 13th,uh Hills have I's uh Texas
Chainsaw Massacre.
Like, I I'm starting to my brainis starting to overwhelm itself

(47:00):
to a degree with how referentialor inspired this is by so many
things.
Yeah, purposely.
Yeah, and I know that it's kindof trying to posit that
potentially as it zooms out withthe cubes later, that all these
horror movie situations haveessentially all been sacrifices

(47:25):
through the years throughdifferent means.
So as they're driving, this CGhas aged like a fucking turd in
a punch bowl.
Oh, yeah, in terms of the hawk.

SPEAKER_03 (47:38):
Yeah, before we go, but before we move on, that
scene with Mordecai is so funnyto me.

SPEAKER_05 (47:43):
Oh, yeah.
No, we need to go into that.
You're right.

SPEAKER_03 (47:45):
It is like uh uh how long have you been here since
the war?
Which war?
You know damn well which war.

SPEAKER_05 (47:53):
Like Nam, motherfucker, you know it's
Naam.

SPEAKER_03 (47:55):
But just like out of nowhere, you damn know what well
which war.
It was just like I think that isone of the funniest lines ever
written.

SPEAKER_05 (48:03):
This first scene with him and his level of
commitment and like the tobaccospitting and the level of venom
in which he delivers stuff andwhatever, absolutely love it.
Guy doing absolutely awesomelike character actor work, knows
the assignment and absolutelydelivers.
Like A.
In this scene, I again I'm stillmostly into it through this

(48:25):
scene, and you're you're right,it is so vital as we've seen
this in mainstream movies that Ijust mentioned and less
mainstream movies so many times.
Like the the weirdo that's like,don't go over there, there's an
evil dead over there, pet amillion different movies.

SPEAKER_03 (48:43):
I just love the interactions that they have, and
that we see Chris Hemsworth likestep up, and then we see Franz
Cranz just be this.
Marty kind of steps up-ish.
Yeah, well, you know, they'reyou know, they're gonna be
bringing the railroad throughhere soon.
Good luck with your business.
Good luck with your business.

SPEAKER_05 (48:59):
That was that line I like, and I'm mostly into it
here until uh it's I don't knowwhat it is.
It's just like that CG of thehawk is so fucking rough, and
the CG of the RV coming throughthe tunnel is so fucking rough.
There's a part of me that almostis like, is this supposed to be

(49:20):
some sort of homage to Evil Deador Evil Dead 2?
And how rough the the transitionis, like of them driving over
the bridge and the bridge beingbroken, and it and again, that's
how my brain works.
I'm a crazy person.
And yeah, the the bird hits theshield and dies, and that
basically tells us like themovie's way of saying, uh oh,

(49:43):
there's no turning back fromhere.

SPEAKER_03 (49:46):
It doesn't look great, but we get this idea that
they are now like trapped insomething, some sort of cage
arena cage.
Yeah.
Um, you know what's funny is theperson who went and saw Hunger
Games when I started describingthis movie, and I was like, Oh,
yeah, you know, actually, it'svery it's actually kind of like
Hunger Games.
Yeah, or the Running Man, orthis is me on a screen.

(50:06):
Listen to our Running Manepisode.

SPEAKER_05 (50:08):
Please, it's so good.
Chris Holmes, we love you.

SPEAKER_03 (50:10):
I I love the design of the cabin, by the way.
When they pull up to the cabin,it looks great.

SPEAKER_05 (50:14):
Best moment of the movie in terms of the visuals,
and I'm not fucking around whenthey pull up to that, because
everything feels so practical onlocation until that point, and
I'm sure a lot of it isn't, butit's lit really well.
This is a very talented DPdirector of photography,
cinematographer, person who uhsets up the camera shots for

(50:36):
movies.
He does such an excellent job ofbeing like, okay, now this is a
set, this is control.
Like you the everything aboutthe visuals and the tone and the
feel of the visuals just changesin an instant.
It's fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 (50:53):
Like the way that they sort of like they're
throwing these kids into thiscabin.
There's a a mirror, there's aone-way or two-way mirror,
one-way mirror, whatever.
Two-way.
Uh yeah, and I love that one-waystandard.

SPEAKER_05 (51:04):
You just kind of stand with your cousin for like
a hug and or like a kiss andkind of a tender and you just
want to look at each other, andthat's a one-way mirror.

SPEAKER_03 (51:14):
That's your cousin.
But I love this sequence whereHolden is like, he sees Dana in
there, and he's like, and Ithink his um Jesse Williams'
performance there is great,where he's like, uh, do I I
don't know, am I supposed to?
And then when she starts to likeunbutton, he's like, Okay, okay,
okay, stop, stop, stop, stop,stop, stop.

SPEAKER_05 (51:31):
I have a question.

SPEAKER_03 (51:32):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (51:32):
He walks away at a point where he's like, I
shouldn't be watching this, I'mjust gonna walk out of here.

SPEAKER_04 (51:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (51:37):
And then he walks back.

SPEAKER_04 (51:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (51:39):
Before he decides ultimately, I can't do this.
Yeah.
Do you see all of that coming?
Him going, I I can't watch this,this is wrong.
I'm gonna walk away.
That he's gonna walk back andthen ultimately do the right
thing.
Do you sense that coming?
Can you telegraph it?

SPEAKER_03 (51:56):
I've I've seen this movie so many times.
I mean, maybe like again, it'sleaning so hard into tropes, so
probably, yeah.
Okay, like I don't think it'strying to hide anything.
I don't feel like it's trying tomask anything.
It feels very the only thingthat maybe it's trying to mask
is like this overarchingconspiracy, uh, which that that

(52:18):
is my one problem with thismovie is I feel like the ending
is is kind of a cop-out.

SPEAKER_05 (52:24):
But I yeah, we'll talk about that.

SPEAKER_03 (52:25):
I don't think anything is trying, I don't
think anything is trying toreinvent the wheel here.

SPEAKER_05 (52:30):
Sure.
I I don't disagree with you.
It's one of those things wheresometimes those things that I
guess I can telegraph I'msatisfied by, and some things I
guess I'm not really as much.
And this is one of those momentswhere it feels like a writer or
somebody like jerking off, beinglike, Aren't I so clever?

(52:50):
I just didn't find it thatclever necessarily, and of
course, the there's a level twowhen they switch rooms and now
she can watch him because he hasto give the admission.
He starts undressingimmediately, and it's like he
knows she's watching.

SPEAKER_03 (53:06):
I mean, did you see him with a shirt off?
I would start he looks fuckingamazing.
I would start undressingimmediately.
I thought he was my cousin.
He has sorry you can't.
I hope he's got that he's gotthat V.

SPEAKER_05 (53:17):
That deep V, the sex lines as they're called.
He looks fucking great.
There's no doubt.
Like the the cast of this movie,it's a bunch of gorgeous human
beings, as it should be,especially Brad Whitford and
Dicky Janky, by the way.
Janky Dickey?
Gorgeous.
Janky Dicky, Dickey Janky, no,Dicky Janky.

SPEAKER_03 (53:36):
The the Dickey is I do like now we are seeing them,
and I they start to mention likewe're starting to see them like
dissolve, desolve, dissolve,yeah, dissolve into their
archetypes in some and they'reusing it.

SPEAKER_05 (53:50):
How people perceive would perceive them, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (53:52):
And yeah, and like we learn later, like these are
necessary archetypes, likeeveryone here is necessary for a
reason.
In terms of like just slashermovies, like we need to see the
jock become this dumb alphajock.
We need to see his girlfriendbecome the like and they start
playing truth or dare, which Ithink is such a great, just such

(54:13):
a great, like obvious but funway to sort of like launch us
into what was gonna be um theinciting incident.

SPEAKER_05 (54:23):
It's so there's a couple things.
We go to the control room again,and this is where it's really
prevalent to me, and this is athing that I like, like a detail
that I like that they have allthis old tech and modern tech
that's kind of been blendedtogether, which feels very
government-y to me, and likeit's a it's a cool detail that I

(54:44):
really enjoy.
Very well, and that they'regoing, yeah, that they're gonna
go through the we're gonna rampup their their libido because we
can pump in drugs or what haveyou at this place like anytime
we want.

SPEAKER_04 (54:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (54:57):
And then they have the speakerphone call with the
harbinger with Mordecai.

SPEAKER_02 (55:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (55:04):
And it's a joke after a joke for me that also
again feels like this is notthat clever.

SPEAKER_03 (55:10):
Oh, it's so funny now.

SPEAKER_05 (55:12):
Stop tripling down on this.
Like, I'm still on speakerphone,aren't I?
Ugh.
And it's it's just not the tonegets shaky for me at points.
There's a level of, and I getthat he's like way too
passionate about his job, he'ssuper into it, he's like a
method actor.
Like, I understand everythingthe movie I think is saying.

(55:32):
I think it's just I think that'sthe thing that is not working
for me.
Similar to this podcast, themovie wants to be very funny,
and I'm not sure how funny itis.

SPEAKER_03 (55:42):
See, that's the thing.
I find it very funny.
Yeah, and I I get that.
I like you said, I don't I don'tlaugh out loud.
I watched this movie for likethe 400th time and I was
laughing at moments.
I I and again, I am very I loveJosh Sweeton's writing.
Yeah this to me, I hear whatyou're saying in terms of like

(56:02):
seeing the writer, but likethese are bits that I find we
gotta have these bits in here.
You gotta find those bitsbecause like sure, otherwise,
we're just doing what are wedoing?
We're just taking taking yourharbinger who's yeah, takes it
very, very seriously, and thenputting them in a situation with
people who don't take itseriously.

SPEAKER_05 (56:22):
That's a funny bit.
I get it, like the dichotomy ofit and whatnot.
I don't know.
There's just there's a level ofI understand that this is
everybody else's like everydayjob in the control room, and I
understand that there's oneperson that really takes all of
that very seriously, and it'sthe security guard guy.
Yeah.
But there's a level of it thatjust I mean, the thing is

(56:48):
though, that's it's not that hedoesn't he doesn't take it
seriously, he's new, right?
So that's the only reason hedoes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (56:53):
But to me, it's it's less about him taking it
seriously.
What I see from that is so wewe're we're in this, like we
learn there's a you know thatthese two guys are sort of like
the uh they steer the ship, andthen you have like producer
woman who kind of is likecommunicating back and forth
about departments, and this newsecurity guy from upstairs,
yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (57:12):
She's like a liaison for yeah, something.

SPEAKER_03 (57:15):
What I see, at least from what I get from his
performance, and what I thinkthe script is saying, is like
he's kind of seen how casual andbanal these people's lives are
to them.
Yeah, he's the human in theroom, and he's like kind of
stunned by it because thesepeople are they're awful.
So he like I just feel like heis us watching them be horrible

(57:38):
humans and killing just killingpeople, and he doesn't really
understand, and we don'tunderstand the bigger reason
behind it.

SPEAKER_05 (57:45):
This is like us watching football, like at any
moment, and people bet money onthis and whatnot.
At any moment, somethingabsolutely terrible can happen,
and this is just for people'sentertainment.
And so I think there is uh themovie is definitely wanting to
say a lot of things, and it'salso creeping a little bit into
like creep show territory forand like so many different

(58:09):
horror movies, and I know thatthat's what the movie wants to
do.
I just never feel the moviestand up on its own legs
completely and really startrunning, and when it really
tries to and will get there, Idon't know how fast it really
runs.
Like for me, it's like I think Isaid at the very beginning of

(58:31):
this, it's irrefutable that thismovie is not bad.
This is a solid fucking movie.
Yeah, it's just so much of itfeels more subjective than so
many of the things that I'veever watched.
It's like I personally thinkanybody that's like Jurassic
Park, that movie sucks.
It's like you're a fuckingidiot.
What the fuck are you talkingabout?

SPEAKER_03 (58:49):
But if somebody's there's a Jurassic Park
reference in this movie.

SPEAKER_05 (58:52):
Oh, I but this movie, if somebody's like, that
movie fucking sucks, or thatmovie's fucking great, it's
like, yeah, that's why I thinkthis is one of the perfect
movies for us to to talk about.
And while they're playing Truthor Dare here, and she like makes
out what the wolf head Julesdoes.
I know they're trying to createdread here and the camera shots

(59:13):
and the way that things are kindof like feel a little bit like
misty or foggy at times, and theway that like it almost looks
like there's the wolf is maybe apuppet or has a hand in it at a
moment, something like that.
But it's just again, it's somany things are not fully
landing for me.
There's I guess there's a partof me in terms of the wolf or

(59:36):
something that I'm like, get toit, let's go.
Like, do I have a level like doI have an unearned level of
impatience already at thispoint?
Where I because I I don't thinkI am rooting for anybody, but
I'm also I'm not rooting fordeath, but I'm rooting for
entertainment.

SPEAKER_03 (59:54):
Like oh, interesting.
Yeah, I don't have that issue.
I find I honestly find like Thatis like such a great weird
buildup.
It's like creepy and weird, andwe don't know what's gonna
happen with that wolf.
Then it switches to the door.
The door opens.
That's great.
And you're like, oh, it wasn'tabout the wolf at all.
I feel like that it's sort oflike a yeah, it's a red herring

(01:00:15):
sort of thing.
Um, I agree.
What we get to the basement, andwith all of these things, that
to me is like this is so muchfun.
We are now watching our heroespick what their fate is, and I
think that that, and we see allthese different things and like
different options, and like hehad the conch in his hand, like

(01:00:36):
we're seeing the big conchshell.
Yeah, like if he just blew theconch shell, that merman is
coming.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:43):
Dude, yeah, he had it in his hand.
I was rooting for you.
There is stuff, you're right.
There's a lot of stuff aboutthis that's good.
There's like even things wherethey say, Oh, what about the
cellar door?
When the cellar door pops up,and I'm like, this feels like an
homage to Evil Dead, as there, Ithink, are many in this movie,
as well as like maybe evenDonnie Darko to a degree, yeah.
Uh that happens through thismovie.

(01:01:03):
But I like that Dana, when thedoor flips up, that she's dared
to go down there into thiscellar with all these cursed
objects.
Dana Dana's dared to go downthere with Don Darnold, darn it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:14):
Darn it, Darnold Design.
Damn, dude.
Design.
And yeah, there's the music box,there's all this creepy shit,
but the the journal of the thehusband bulge and whatever the
like the Necronomicon.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:27):
The DM husband bulge, the the the necrococacon.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:32):
Zombie.
What is it?
What do they say?
Yes, you had money on zombies,but this was homicidal.
Yeah, redneck homicidal zombie.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:42):
Bloodthirsty.
Yeah, it's it's a sub, they'retotally different.
Yeah, yeah.
This is what I wrote, by theway.
It's Kevin Smith's story,screenplay by Kevin Williamson,
directed by Sam Raimi.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:56):
And not another Kevin.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:57):
And yeah, but like not all these elements always
fit for me.
That's it's like, wait, you'regiving me like the Scream guy
versus the guy who wrote theunproduced Superman with the
Evil Dead guy.
I don't know where I'm at here.
By the way, Scream, arguably thebest series of horror movies in
terms of overall quality.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:16):
I think you're tapping into something that I
think is purposeful for me.
Sure.
Is that I I don't feel like themovie is trying to be stand like
it's it's standing on theshoulders of giants, and it's
the love letter in some degreeof like, look at how fun these
movies are and how fun they areto pull apart.

(01:02:38):
And that's all the movie needsto be for me.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:41):
Do you feel like this is like a hot shots of Evil
Dead to a degree?
Like less less ridiculous, butyeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:48):
I mean, I was just I was thinking about Naked Gun
while you were talking, like thenew because like I was thinking
like that to me is almost too.
I enjoy the new Naked Gun.
It's like a three or a three anda half for me, but it feels
almost like too much of a jokeper minute.
For me, I really appreciate thatthis movie doesn't do a joke per
minute and leans back into theplot sometimes, but then brings

(01:03:09):
us back into this sort of likemeta idea of building these
horror movies, which are in intheir own right kind of
ridiculous and silly.
And so, like when we see likethe Japanese on the screen, oh
my god, it's great.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:25):
The girls are like, ah, yeah, they're just singing,
they just love that it gets alllove and happiness and like
together, and it and it ruinslike Samara from the ring or
whatever it's supposed to be.
Yeah, the zombie buckners,though, are the ones who are
chosen to bring the red bloodwood, yeah.
And they have a 100% clearancerate, yeah, like they they never

(01:03:48):
fail.
So the idea is that these zombiebuckner folks are gonna kill all
of the campers because now thatJapan has fallen because of love
and togetherness, and everybodybeing like, You're my cousin,
but I love you.
That the frog is so great, yeah.
The happiness frog.

(01:04:09):
That is a very good scene.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:11):
I didn't see it coming that it would be a little
frog.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:13):
Um that is a very good scene.
But when Hemsworth and hisgirlfriend are getting really
horny, is he's like, I lovebeers and wet titties and
whatever, and he's not beinghimself.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:24):
And I love that Franz Kranz does that.
He's like, he's a sociologymajor.
Yeah, he calls everything out.
What is wrong with everyone?

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:31):
When he has this theory that everyone's being
puppeted, because the weed, andof course, I love this.
The fact that he's a stonermakes him see things more so for
what they are.
That his mind is open to thinkof like, yeah, but what could
this be this?

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:46):
And Paul, not to yeah, he already thinks I feel
like he already thinks theworld's a conspiracy in some
way.
So go back to the he's one stepahead of them already.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:55):
Well, and they say in the in the movie, too, that
his weed was helping him forcertain.
They mention it a coupledifferent times.
Hemsworth and the girlfriend aresuper horny, and they start
getting after it after they gothrough the horror trope of, and
this is the thing that is odd,is that she'll make out with a
wolf or whatever, but they haveto do the trope of like the

(01:05:16):
girlfriend or whatever beingresistant, but the pheromones
come in and they end up doingit.
There's a line here that Ireally like when we're back in
the control room as they'redoing it, where I don't remember
who says it, but it's you knowwhat's at stake here.

(01:05:36):
Like you've been told what's atstake here.
So that's the thing that is themystery that is keeping me more
interested, I think, thananything.
Because I'm not super worriedabout any of the characters or
what they're doing.
There's a level of a voyeurismfeel that I think you're right,
I think is intentional, but it'slike, yeah, the banality of like
people betting on people dyingand what the monsters will be

(01:05:58):
and so forth.
And so I just feel like I'mgoing through the motions a
little bit.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:03):
Sure.
Well, you know, you know thesedeaths are gonna start
happening, right?

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:07):
It breaks it up with cool, interesting stuff that is
involved with the mystery thathas me more so gripped.
Sure.
Which is like this we offer inhumility and fear for the
blessed peace of your eternalslumber as it ever was, and then
they're kind of like all cultyabout it as it ever was.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:24):
Three different sides of a triangle here, right,
Paul?
Always that's what's happeninghere.
The Buckners come and they theyget them before they come.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:34):
Not the merman.
Not the merman.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:36):
I just want to see a merman one time, one time he had
the conch in his hand.
I know, buddy.
I know, bud.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:42):
Bradley Whitford, I just know they're so great, they
have great chemistry.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:46):
I love Bradley Whitford and get out too.
Oh my god, dude.
I would have voted for Obama thethird time, like that line
delivery.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:52):
That I hope we get that movie at some point.
Yeah, that movie is so sowonderful.
It's a special one, and layeredand incredible.
So there's a blood sacrificethat has nothing to do with this
or the Etsy witch.
And it almost looks like Blade,yeah, where the it's uh and the
CG's about the level of thatmovie as well.

(01:07:13):
And we're finding out that likethese lines in these stones,
just like Blade, have to befilled with these blood
sacrifices, and that's all weknow about it at this point is
that Bradley Whitford goes overand pulls a lever, and the blood
that hits the ground goes to thesacrifice.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:31):
Nana, or Nana, Nana, who's Nana?
Nina, uh Julie, the spermclaimant, uh, and she is the
hoo'er, apparently.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:39):
The the the who'er appropriate for me to quote too
short in that moment, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:44):
The who-er.
And um Kurt comes running backin, and uh I think they brutal
stabbings and bear traps andyeah, these guys I do like when
the Buckner husband, the husbandbulge is standing there and he
throws the fake head.
Yeah, I think that's a greatprosthetic.
The head looks great, it does.

(01:08:04):
The her hair's all bloody,throws the head, and like I
think Dana's scream is good.
Like Kristen Conway, I feel likedoes such a great job of playing
the the final girl in this.
Her response is when they trylike they close the door, and uh
I love I just love the sequenceof being like, Great, we have to
stick together, we we have tostay in one room together, and

(01:08:25):
then being like seeing uh JankyRich uh Richard Jenkins, Janky
Dix, like with his doing doingthe Patrick Stewart hand in his
hand in his hand and being like,Why do they have to be so
fucking smart and just likerelease some sort of thing for
for him to just go, wait, no, wehave to split up.
And France Brown's just beinglike, What?

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:46):
I gotta say, in this makes sense in the in-between
too, is like Marty's hearingvoices that are saying, like, go
for a walk, and he's like, I'mtoo smart, I'm not gonna do
that.
I think I'll go for a walk.
Yeah, which you kind of yeah, ofcourse he's going to, and says
the husband bulge thing to JesseWilliams, where he's like, He's
go to husband bulge, and it'slike, in case you didn't get
that when they were in thecellar, here's that joke again.

(01:09:09):
But that head throw thing thatyou're talking about, have you
seen Demon Knight?

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:14):
No, I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:16):
There is a level of Ernest R.
Dickerson, who was Spike Lee'sprotege, who directed Demon
Knight, where Billy Zane throwsa head into the house.
Okay, and everybody says, Wegotta fucking stick together.
And the archetype of the dudewho's like, I'm a big strong
guy, I'll lead you, who's ThomasHayden Church?

(01:09:36):
Is like, fuck you, do what Isay, and like whatever, and is
like a total moron.
And there are parts of thismovie that feel a get like Demon
Knight, but Demon we'll talkabout Demon Knight on this
program at some point, but it isMoses Olsen, help me.
There, there's a Hemsworth savewhere he comes in out of nowhere

(01:09:56):
to first Franz Kranz getsattacked, and we think right he
finds he finds like a camera inhis room, and he's like, What
the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:03):
And then one of the Buckners come and take him out,
and we think he is gone.
They pull the they pull theblood thing and we think Franz
Kranz character is dead, but heYeah, I never understood that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:15):
I was like, wait, so they got the blood though?
He's not dead, but they got theblood.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:20):
I don't think no, but it's not their it's not
their blood.
I think they have to just likethey have to kill someone and
then they have blood that is fedinto the sound.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:28):
Okay.
I just wasn't sure.
When he pulls the microphone, bythe way, it almost reminds me of
the the game where the tag is onthe lamp.

unknown (01:10:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:38):
But he pulls the microphone and is discovering
what's happening, and he usesthat bong thermos to fight, and
he's doing a great job.
Yeah.
But he gets drug away andstabbed, and the blood is is
sacrificed, but he's not dead,so the blood doesn't matter, I
guess.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:54):
Yeah, like I said, I think I've always thought the
blood was uh not like it wasjust sort of a performative.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:01):
Interesting, but the deity knows that the person is
still like the goddess.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:05):
Okay, like there's a death that has occurred.
Okay.
That that's been my take.
And I think maybe like the movieis I'm filling in gaps here for
that the movie isn't doing forme.
But yeah, so we get the they'vesplit up now, which is the
dumbest thing they could havedone, and then they're locked in
their rooms.
Franz Crimes gets pulled away,and then Dana gets attacked

(01:11:26):
through the door.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:28):
Here comes Jesse Williams breaking through that
fake mirror, and they get saved.
And Kurt.
I'm trying to remember whathappens to Kurt here.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:38):
Well, they go to the cellar, right?

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:39):
The cellar, and a new cellar.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:41):
Yeah, a different room, the black room, where
sacrifices happened, accordingto the diary.
And she stabs that one Bucknerto death.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:51):
And then Chris Hemsworth shows up again for
another save because he kind ofgets everybody to split up and
saves people or whatever, andthen does this again.
But they all get in the RV,they're getting the fuck out of
here.
Uh Samara from the Ring is afrog in Japan, and the US people
are freaking the fuck outbecause the tunnel is okay.

(01:12:12):
It's not collapsed.
Like the brid if it's Evil Deador Evil Dead 2, the bridge is
still intact.
Yeah.
Like the sacrifice is not gonnahappen.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:20):
So he's run into fine engineering or yeah, what
do they call them?
Uh demolitions.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:27):
Demolitions, demolitions makes more sense.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:29):
We don't know, we don't know what happened.
We there was a malfunction, wedidn't get the call.
It's like blow the fucking, andso they blow it white when
they're driving through, andthey have to back up.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:38):
But who fucked that up or who like was the were the
people upstairs like trying to?
Were they the ones that createdthe issue for demolition?
For what created that issue?
Oh, because he was pulling wiresand stuff.
Okay, yeah.
Hemsworth has his big speechafter they're like, okay, we
can't get out the tunnel, wecan't go this way, we can't

(01:12:59):
drive back to the cabin.
He's like, I'm gonna fuckingtake my motorcycle, I'm gonna
ride it a hundred feet back, I'mgonna evil cinevel, I'm gonna
hot rod this bitch, I'm gonnajump over this chasm, I'm gonna
bring choppers, I'm gonna bringdogs, dudes with guns.
I'm gonna guns.
Yeah, he's I'm gonna write tothe military like the kid from
Monster Squad, and it's gonna beit's gonna be bananas.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:24):
He goes right off the cliff into red dawn, like
just rides right into that.
Right into the shield.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:29):
And yeah, and he does it, yeah, in terms of his
career, but it changes angleswhen he jumps, and there's like
a CG version of him, and Icouldn't remember when he died
or if he survived or whathappened.
My brain was playing tricks onme for this.
But again, it was a thing whereit's like, I'm like, Oh, he's
gonna die, and he kind of hitsthe shield, and I have no real

(01:13:51):
reaction.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:52):
Oh, I'm just like, oh, I feel like it's such funny
comic timing to me.
Like from like I just love thiswhole like very serious, I'm
going to save the world.
Like, very he's giving so muchemotion in that speech, too.
Yeah, it's good, really great,and that it's just like you see
this this just like yeah, thisepic jump, and then it just ends

(01:14:15):
with this kind of silly corpsejust kind of falling down a
shield.
I find I find that level thatcomic timing very funny.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:24):
Well, and maybe and maybe for me it's partly because
I've been let in with whathappened to the bird.
Uh and you're expecting and Iknow that shield's there or
whatnot, but also the editingand the angles and the music and
these sorts of things kind oflike give up to a degree that
something is going to happen andit's probably going to be

(01:14:46):
something sudden.
And I think that that's the onlyanswer in turn in terms of what
was going to happen.
And so I guess that's why I hadno reaction.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:55):
Interesting.
Yeah.
It is one of those moments thatI to this day will still like
quote and stand by because it'sjust great.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:03):
By the way, it's a brave choice to kill your
strong, charismatic male lead inthe middle of a movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:11):
It's a strong choice.
Gotta love these guys, man.
Gotta love these guys.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:16):
The plan now is Jesse Williams and full nerd, by
the way.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:20):
Now, full nerd.
He's wearing glasses.
Yeah.
He's full Dorktown.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:25):
Button-up flannel.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:26):
Yeah, he's full Dorktown.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:28):
They're gonna drive out of there.
He's taking the role of theleader.
Did you know he was gonna diehere?
Because I felt it coming.
There's gotta be one of thesethat we're in lockstep on in
terms of I shouldn't use thatterm.
There's gotta be one of thesethat we agree on.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:41):
Like, I think none of the deaths are supposed to
be.
I mean, maybe Chris Hemsworth isis supposed to be like you're
not expecting it, but I feellike most of them aren't.
Okay.
The hidden, I guess.
Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:53):
Because you know one of the crazy hillbilly zombies
got on the RV.
It showed you with like theblood mark on the RV earlier.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:59):
And for like me, I'm less interested in horror movies
that are just sort of slasherdeaths.
Um, sure.
And I and I think that like whatI appreciate about this movie, I
can see Scream as sort of doinga lot of doing a lot of things
that this movie is doing, right?

(01:16:20):
It's like commenting on tropes,it's sort of like it's a satire,
it's kind of like it's lifting alot of those tropes up and
making Scream does it so well.
It does it in this very seriousyeah, and Scream is doing it way
more seriously in a differentway, yeah.
In a different way, and this isvery purposely like taking those
tropes and making them more funand comedic and silly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:43):
I agree.
It's just like it's something inbetween hot shots and scream,
like that sometimes works for meand sometimes doesn't.
And please don't like I hope youdon't feel attacked or anything.
It's just like the the movie ithas some hits for me, but how
how strong is that contact?
I don't know, but again, not abad movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:00):
No water off my back, baby.
Okay, good.
This is this is just one of ALStwo seed, baby.
This is one of my this is justone of my Mount Rushmores.
So I'm oh yeah, no, it's okay.
I'm standing by.
But speaking of water, they gostraight in to the lake, and we
think, and this is where I thinkthe movie is goes like this is

(01:17:21):
where like act two ends, and weget into this act three that is
less expected.
And I think that there's partsof act three I love, and then
there's parts of act three whereI'm like, okay, well, they got
to a point, it's like a MelBrooks thing.
They got to a point where like,yeah, we got to the point end of
this thing, and we're like,well, it does this now.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:37):
It doesn't feel strategic like Mel Brooks,
though.
Like, it doesn't feel like anintentional thing like Mel
Brooks, it just feels like theywere just like fucking.
Yeah, I have okay.
Oh, I'm talking about BlazingSaddle specifically.
I should be I should bespecific.
The control room is celebratingthat as far as they know,
everybody's dead except for thevirgin.

(01:17:58):
But you know, Brad Whitford.
Tequila is my lady, reallyrooting for her, even though it
would have been cooler with amerman.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:06):
I like that he gives this emotional speech and then
just like his line delivery oflike double looking.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:11):
Really want her to win.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:12):
Yeah, I just think that it would be great if she
tequila is my lady, and they'repartying, and we we see in the
background that she is justbeing like viciously attacked by
yeah by the by one of theBuckners in the water on the on
the deck or dock or pier orwhatever it is, yeah, like on
top of the water.

(01:18:33):
And I love when they come up todemolition, they're like, Hey,
you guys gave us a scare, andthe guy's like, No, we didn't
get the call.
We didn't like we don't know,like he's vividly he's upset
because like they did theirfucking job, and then the red
phone rings, which I think issuch a good thing.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:47):
I love that.
That's great.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:49):
Like just a great, like, uh-oh.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:51):
Yeah, Doctor Strange Love, or so many other things in
general of like, uh oh, the redphone is ringing.
Yeah, and this is where we findout that Marty is alive, he made
it, he escaped into the annals.
The weed, the weed, baby, theweed helped the weed, gave him
the strength, stamina, andenergy he needed.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:11):
I had to destroy that guy with a what does he
say?

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:14):
Different kind of spinach, baby.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:15):
I don't remember a trowel.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:17):
I had to the devil's let us see how to cut him up
with a trowel.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:20):
I had to cut that guy up with a trowel.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:21):
So Marty and Dana go even deeper into the annals,
into fucking what they think isan elevator, and it is a
essentially prison cube that wesee in the new Superman, for
instance.
Sure.
But the first thing they see isa fucking werewolf, and then
they see kind of a kind of astinky emanating kind of ghost,

(01:19:44):
and then there's like yeah, andthen a boba, like a bobo
pinhead, as you said, with sawblades sticking out.
Tata actor does a really goodjob, I want to say.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:52):
Timu pinhead.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:54):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:55):
But I love the ballerina.
The ballerino with like theteeth.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:59):
Mouthface?
Yeah, like looks like it's fromBeetlejuice, kinda or something,
like the snake fromBeetlejuice's.
It's weird.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:04):
I mean, that there are some really cool designs in
some of these things that theylike we reveal, like they chose
from the basement, they chose,but yeah, they're they see all
of these monsters, creatures,killers, murderers, and the
people uh in the lab arefreaking the fuck out.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:22):
Yep, up to and including the fact that the CEO
is now involved, or whoever,whatever her title is, through a
watching you through a cameraand announcing through speakers
or whatever, here's theexposition of what we are doing,
need you to do in a very smallmicro way, yeah, and then they

(01:20:43):
release all of the fuckingbeasts in the building.
And again, the CG is prettyfucking rough.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:49):
Yeah, the I mean the CG is rough, but it's so fun.
They just release all of thesethings at once, and it becomes
this absolute talk about EtsyWitch Chaos Ball.
Like, this is just like it'spandemonium, yeah.
There's so much happening that Ican't really focus on one or two
things at once.
Uh, every time I watch it, Ifeel like I catch something else

(01:21:10):
that's fun.
You know, we have like thestrangers, we have like we have
it, we have I don't know why wehave like robot uh scorpions
with blade uh back, like tails.
Yeah, like we have ghosts, wehave a unicorn that's randomly
killing people.
It is just this ultimate fuckit.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:30):
Oh, yeah, no, dude, it goes, it goes like Scooby-Doo
2, Monsters Unleashed.
It's it's just like fuck it,let's go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:36):
Fun.
And like the the parts in thiswhen they are um uh when they
get out of the elevator, theythey basically like push a dude
into a wall and his head bloody.
And I'm like, well, that's athin line, but okay, I guess
they can get out that way.
I don't know.
Yeah, there are like littleScooby-Doo things in here for
them to escape, you know.
But I'm I am on board at thispoint.

(01:21:57):
The amount of like crazy shitthat's happening.
I'm just like, sure, let's watchthese awful people get eaten by
all these fucking crazy things.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:05):
I get what you're saying, and and maybe you're
kind of like Marty and Danahere, where fucking Dr.
Michael Morbius at your serviceshows up or whatever, and then
he gets like killed by thegiant, yeah, giant bat and
killed himself, and they runback to like look at it.

(01:22:26):
Yeah, that's again fucking run.
I noticed that here happening.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:29):
I noticed that too.
I was like, oh, it's becausethey need to get inside the
wall.
Thin, very thin.
There's a there's an there's agiant cobra that's like
anaconda.
There's a shot in when they'relooking at all the security
screens, there's a shot thatlooks like it's straight out of
Jurassic Park.
Like there's just like a girl ina lab, and this like dinosaur
foot like lands in front of thecobra.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:48):
Yeah, I didn't even notice that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:50):
That's fucking all of these little things, and
yeah, again, I feel like I'moverwhelmed by it, but yeah.
I find it so fun, and it is likeyou mentioned Scooby-Doo.
The moment I said 100%, likethat is 100% what I feel like
the movie has gone to.
It's just like it's it's hit thefuck it button, and I am all in
the fuck it button.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:10):
Yeah, it it has gone.
Scooby-Doo 2, MonstersUnleashed, and it's just like I
guess it's almost like uh SpaceJam, a New Legacy, where you're
looking in the crowd and it'slike, but it's like, why am I
looking at all these things thatare supposed to remind me of or
be direct reminders of theseother properties?
And I understand that that'spart of the fabric of the movie,

(01:23:32):
and I know you're saying it likestands on the shoulders of
giants, but at times I wouldlike it to stand on its own, and
I know that it's not necessarilytrying to do that, that that's
not its goal, but that there'snothing that happens in this
movie outside of the veryoriginal concept that like hits

(01:23:55):
me any big special chords withme.
I do I do have the funniest partof the movie for me that comes
up right here, though, as allthe monsters are killing all
these awful people, and BradWipford through the smoke and
everything, you see the shadowyfigure, and then as it starts to
approach him, it's clearly themerman.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:16):
Yeah, and it's the merman design is not what I
expected at all.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:20):
No, and I love it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:21):
Hideous and great.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:23):
It's like a nightmare, and the fact that it
eats you and then shoots yourblood out of its blowhole.
Yeah, that was that's funny.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:31):
Yeah, it's funny.
I love I I thought like theunicorn stabbing a dude was
funny.
Like you expect to see all thesethings, and then you don't like
you don't expect a unicorn couldhave popped up out there and
just started killing them.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:42):
Do you think Death of a Unicorn the movie was based
off of just this one moment inthis movie?
I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:47):
I haven't either.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:48):
I heard it wasn't very good.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:50):
Um I I've heard the same, but I would see it, I
would watch it.
Okay, well, would you like totalk about Dana killing Dickie
Janky?
Dickie Janky.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:01):
She kills him here, she stabs him.
Which, you know, at this pointit's like, fuck it, kill all
kill them all.

SPEAKER_05 (01:25:07):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he he was involved justas much as everybody else was in
all the monstrous bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:12):
Yeah, and I love that when we we kind of talked
about how the uh all the othercountries failed and they show
all these different things, likethere was like a volcano in one.
I think there was a kaiju inone.

SPEAKER_05 (01:25:22):
We used to just sacrifice to a volcano, yeah.
There was a kaiju.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:26):
There was like all these different things that were
happening on this day, and Ithink like we get to the final
sort of place of releaserevealing of Sigorni Weaver as
the CEO of this, and this iswhere for me the movie loses uh
a star, is where I I feel likewe a star, a half a star, a half

(01:25:46):
a star, yeah.
Um careful spooky is thatdangerous?

SPEAKER_05 (01:25:52):
That's spicy.
Careful.
This is scary, and we you eatthat sandwich and you will get
gassy with your cousin.
This house is clean.
Sigourney Weaver now, instead ofa micro dose of the exposition,
is like, here's everything.

(01:26:15):
Yeah, gives you everything, doesan okay job with it as an
actress.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:18):
It's but it's it is a it is a third act boss reveal
that's like not it feels it's acop out.

SPEAKER_05 (01:26:24):
Like it's I agree.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:26):
You need to like lay that, and I know they were
laying the groundwork, thefoundation of that red phone,
yeah, and like there's likethere's hints of it, but I just
feel like if you want that to beyour antagonist, that needs to
be something I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:26:41):
There clearly they're better writers than I
am, but like there's somethingin there that's um well, and
that's the thing is like thereare little moments of dialogue
where she she puts it perfectly,it's written perfectly, you can
die with them or you can die forthem.
Like if she's trying to tellMarty, as Dickie Janky said,
like, this guy has to die forthe human race to continue on.

(01:27:01):
Yeah, and Dana being ready toshoot him for the most part
makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah.
And Marty shoots off thewerewolf and gets into the fight
with Sigourney Weaver.
The fist fight's prettysatisfying because I'm pretty
sure she was gonna kick his assultimately.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:21):
Which is funny because he's punched him in the
fucking head.
He's ripped Jesus, right?
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I I do think there iscalled Jim Jesus.
There is something a littlebroken in the philosophy of the
end of this movie because Ithink what we ultimately should
have gotten, and like I hatedoing that with movies where
you're like, this is how I thinkit should have gone.

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:43):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:43):
Because that's armchair quarterbacking.
Yeah, but I I do think uh if youwant the um satisfying arc for
Marty who came into that world,this world that we've seen him
as the cynical one.

SPEAKER_06 (01:27:59):
Right?

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:00):
He like, like we're being watched, it's all it's all
fucking sham.
Uh like there's no reason itmakes sense for him to be like
fuck it, burn it all, right?
Like that it makes sense becauselike he's already there.
That's where he is at thebeginning.
If you want it to feel stronger,he's gotta he's gotta be the one
that like sacrifices himself.

(01:28:20):
I agree.
For the greater good or she hasto kill him good for the greater
good.
I think it's like I think it'sthat I think it's like she can't
she wants to kill him and thenlike can't.
Like Dana's so pure.
I think if you show Dana andlike she and she can't do it,
and then he gives himself up.
I think that is the arc thatmakes more sense and is more

(01:28:41):
hopeful.
Now, I get a little bit of theum the sort of like cynical
ending here with fuck it, thisworld's fucked.

SPEAKER_05 (01:28:50):
Let's just I don't yeah, it doesn't do it for me
though.
Like there's a level that Ithink that him self-sacrificing,
like looking at her or having aline or having a moment, yeah,
or whatnot, and then showing herlater, and again, we're not
experts here, but showing herand having her have a moment of
like reflection about whathappened or something like that,

(01:29:10):
and or her fucking shooting him,and then like how this changed
her, how she's a much differentperson, like when we see her
later.
And so this giant hand poppingup of these gods that have been
kept at bay with the blood offive people every so often.
It I don't think it's definedhow often, or any of those
things.
That's the other thing, is itcan be a little loosey-goosey

(01:29:33):
with the rules, but also likeI'm an audience member, we're in
a horror movie, it's notnecessarily always going to tell
me all the rules, you're justsupposed to enjoy the ride.
So it's not always the job ofthe movie.
But we have come to the end ofthe movie.
Nobody shoots anybody, SigorniWeaver meets her maker, the
world ends, and the world ends.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:53):
The eternals, whatever, the giant thing pops
out of the earth.
These these titans.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:00):
Richard, what's his name?
Dick, what's his name?
And that other uh Kumel Nangianiand the other.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:05):
There are so many references throughout time
though of like tight like inHercules, the Titans come out
and destroy the world.
I do like the concept that thereare these that we are
worshipping and like we have tosacrifice them, and that we do
that in the trope of horrormovies.
That's so fun to me.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:22):
But yes, we this is this is part of what reminds me
of like why I like Wes Craven'sNew Nightmare so much.
Like the idea that FreddyKrueger is someone's uh
manifestation of an ancientdemon, and making these movies
and telling these stories keptthe actual demon at bay, and Wes
Craven's New Nightmare is like,okay, demon's loose.
And so it I like that version ofuh kind of a similar thing.

(01:30:47):
I don't know.
Sorry, you were saying.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:49):
No, I mean I think we're at the end.
I think that like, yeah, we'reat the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:53):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:54):
We did it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:55):
Ben?
Me?
Me first.
Me, you, you, me, me, you.
Should I flap a coin?
Doesn't matter to me.
Uh fuck it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:03):
I'm going all the way.
I'll go first.
Okay.
What do you think?
Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:07):
I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:09):
I am tempted to go to a three and a half because I
think you're right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:12):
I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:14):
It's a turn no, it's age like a turn to punch bowl,
man.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:17):
Let's just let's just go win the whole fucking
thing.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:19):
Let's just win the whole fucking thing.
I would like to, especially onas we're on and up here, I would
like to give this a three and ahalf, and I feel like you've
made a lot of good points aboutlike, dude, Paul, chill the fuck
out.
But also while being much kinderthan that.
But the eh, I just maybe on thebackground at some other point

(01:31:41):
in life, I don't know.
But I I don't know if I would goout of my way or make it a
point.
So I'm I'm gonna stick at thethree.
There's another part of methat's like willing to go the
down direction, but I think Ihad a good enough time watching
it.
And that's the other thing, man,that hit that blindsides me
sometimes with this lovely,incredible podcast that you

(01:32:04):
should subscribe to if you'renot, is that the conversation
can help you stay in a placeeven if you're willing to go one
way or another.
Like if the conversation isinteresting and fun enough, even
though I'm like, I I could betempted to go down, I could also
be tempted to go up.
Let's just stay.
I'm gonna stay at the three.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:25):
You're gonna hold.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32:26):
I'm gonna hold at the three bong thermoses.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:29):
Three bong thermoses.
Uh I think I'll go to a four.
Okay.
I think it's a pretty solid fourfor me, actually.
I I mean, I it's so rare to havesuch a rewatchable movie for me
in this particular genre.

(01:32:50):
I've probably watched Screamtwice.
Okay.
And not to say Scream is a badmovie.
I think Scream is a great movie.
I just, you know, in terms ofrewatchability, there's
something about this moviethat's just so fucking fun.
And I think that it's reallythat the comedy is highlighted
um in a way that I find likejust speaks to me.

(01:33:11):
And okay.
Um I uh so I yeah, I'm gonna gowith four husband bulges.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:17):
Okay.
I I'm glad that you did not godown any further.
Not to sound like an asshole.
I'm also glad like I must havehad some sort of effect on this
thing, because it's like if youhad said five just now, I would
have been a bit shocked.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:36):
Sure.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:37):
If you would have stayed, I would not have been
shocked.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:40):
There's plenty of threads to pull on this movie,
and that's not something thatgoes I'm blinded by, you know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:46):
Yeah, but just let the movie fucking movie, man.
That's kind of I think you madethat argument really well.
Just let the movie movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:52):
That's kind of how that's okay.
Like it's just it's just a funmovie for me.
And I'd go, bud.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:59):
You won this round, but Billy will be back.
Hey, I won't.
You won't always be so lucky.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:05):
I'm down to watch that movie.
I know.
I told you.

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:08):
I know you are.
Yeah.
You fucking ho dunk, ho dunk,well then there, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:13):
That's backwoods, cannibalistic zombie family.
It's a different, it's asubgenre.
Well, I would like I did, Ithink I have paused the
whiteboard sequence and justlike look at all the different
options because it's listen todo that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:31):
Because I'm sure that there's probably some gems
there, without a doubt.
As we said, like the ElijahWood, Sin City, Kevin thing,
Kevin Smith, Kevin Williamson.
I want to mention that the folksthat do that our it's good.
It can't be bad if it's good.
It's good happening, is what'shappening is good.
Our book and music is by JamieHenwood.

(01:34:53):
What uh what are we doing?
What uh what have you beenwatching?
Why are you excited?
Our Matthew Foskett.
Fun facts are Chris Old's, andour interstitials are the
gentleman in the mariner's hatthat I'm looking at right now.

SPEAKER_02 (01:35:05):
Are you looking at Cal Raleigh?

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:07):
Am I?
Wait, stand up and turn around.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:11):
I I don't got that dump permit.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35:12):
I got a Snickers Almond for you.
Come on, cousin.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:17):
What are you on the bear?
What is happening?
Yes, Chef.
Hey, cousin.

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:23):
Yes, Chef.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:24):
Yes, Chef.

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:26):
So forget about it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:27):
Is this gonna be the end of spooky season?

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:29):
Or it it is.
This should this should bewrapping it up.
So follow Ben on Letterboxed atRun BMC.
See what spooky movies I'mwatching.
Follow me on letterboxed atPaulAxBadly.
Listen, rate, comment,subscribe, share.
We're available on all the majorplatforms that aren't YouTube
because I don't want you to seeme.
It's none of your fuckingbusiness.

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And Good Pods, that's one thatwe like.
That's a fun one.
You can recommend and share andhave a profile and all sorts of
fun stuff.

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And from all of us at Review Review, Happy
Halloween! That's why we marryour cousins.
Because they're so attractive.

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