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September 2, 2025 40 mins

What happens when early childhood experiences shape your leadership presence as an adult? In this episode of The Right Kind of Uncomfortable, Emma Hayes, Chief Learning and Engagement Officer at State Employees’ Credit Union of North Carolina, shares how a painful moment in first grade set her on a path of self-protection, purpose, and ultimately, transformation.

Emma opens up about the unseen weight many leaders carry, from cultural expectations around food and wellness to the pressures of perception in professional spaces. Her story is both deeply personal and widely relatable for anyone navigating leadership, authenticity, and growth.

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