December 23, 2025 • 43 mins
Lara Trump is joined by editor at large for The Washington Times Alex Swoyer and former RNC national spokesperson Elizabeth Pipko for a wide-ranging panel discussion on the biggest political moments of the week. The panel reacts to some of the most extreme rhetoric from the left, including Rachel Maddow continuing to push the Russia hoax years later and Democrats in Congress shouting about gender-affirming care on the House floor. They also break down new developments in the Somali fraud scandal in Minnesota, what it could mean for Tim Walz, and why legacy media outlets are ignoring the story. Plus, the panel discusses the Milwaukee judge found guilty of obstructing ICE agents and the DNC’s ongoing refusal to acknowledge what went wrong in 2024.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And oh loll back down.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, thanks so much for joining us right here
on the right view. Before we get started tonight, just
want to start with a couple of videos. See what's
going on out there, See what we got here? We go.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And everybody who was like, oh, Rachel, you and the
Russia stuff, like, isn't that really isn't that a little
over the top? Like how what do you what do
you mean that? Donald Trump and Russia? I'm sorry, We
now have a white House that works for the for
the Kremlin, and they're not even they're not even hiding it.
(00:45):
They're not even hiding it anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, I have a lot of thoughts. How long do
we have for this this video? First of all, what
is Rachel Matto wearing? Are is that a that's that's
what you chose to wear? It's like a snuggie or
I don't know what she's got on there, a blanket
perhaps on her. The other individual in that video is
Jamie Harrison. He was the chairman of the DNC while
(01:10):
I was the co chair of the RNC, and I
vividly remember Jamie laughing about me becoming the co chair,
being voted into that position. By the members of the
Republican National Committee and saying that we were going to lose,
that we weren't going to be able to fundraise that.
What did I know about anything? Well, Jamie, how did
(01:33):
it work out? I'll wait for you to respond to that.
The other part of that video is perhaps the most
crazy thing I've ever heard. They're still trying I hope
everybody understood what was going on there, still trying to
push the Russia collusion hoax. How is this White House
Rachel working for the Kremlin? And Jamie, can anybody explain
(01:56):
that to me? I recall the Hillary Clinton campaign actually
colluding to sway an election with Russia. Steve dossier, the
email is back and forth, the interference of our federal
law enforcement agencies to prop that up and to kind
of push it out there as a narrative. When are
(02:18):
you guys talking about that? When are we going to
go down that path? No one from the Trump campaign,
donald Trump himself, no one in our family ever colluded
with Russia. And you know how we know? There was
the Mueller investigation, tens of millions of dollars, two years
of an investigation, and a waste of so much effort
(02:38):
to show what there was no collusion. These people are crazy.
These people are delusional, and they have absolutely no idea
what to do with themselves. Because Donald Trump is delivering
for the American people. He's actually doing the things he
said he was going to do when he got into
the White House. They don't know how to handle it.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Jamie.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I'm still waiting for the apology from you, so I'll
be here. You know where to find me.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I don't know what to do. We should do whatever
you want to read a brook watch nighttime talk shows.
You don't like the view or something?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
What's the view?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
A bunch of pissed off millionaires mentioned about how much
they hate millionaires, trump Man and everybody else. They got
to be up there ass about it's pretty funny. Film
sound funny? I joke FI, It's like park Church by you.
That's no sound funny either. It depends on your proximity
to the fart.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean, if I had to, uh, if I were
pushed to say, what I would associate with the view.
Maybe it is flatulence. Maybe it is that that's that's
pretty solid. That's how you know things are changing right there.
Whenever you have on a kind of mainstream TV show
like that knocking the View. I mean, the View has
(04:00):
been around forever, right. It used to be something that
people would tune into and say like, oh, maybe we
can kind of get a hot take on. Now you
don't do that anymore. The people who tune into the
View tune in because they're miserable and they want to
see other miserable people just kind of dump on Donald
Trump and Republicans and the country as much as they
(04:21):
possibly can. But yeah, that's pretty much it. That's exactly
how I would describe them. The fact that that is
out on a mainstream platform of any variety, and that's
on a pretty standard show these days. Maybe it shows
you the tide is changing. Maybe it shows you that
somebody out there somewhere is getting it. Half the country
(04:42):
is conservative, if not more. We know that the people
in every possible state in America moved to the right
this past election. So I don't know, maybe they're starting
to get it, And you know what, that's okay with me.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
And the most common form of gender firming care for
young people is medications that simply pause puberty and have
been used safely for decades.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
So why do my colleagues across the aisle.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
So called limited government people suddenly want government to get
in the way of the decisions that parents and their
kids make together. Why did they want to stop children
from getting medical care that has been proven to be
safe and effective and helps them to live happily, helps
them to.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Live, just live.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Why do they want why would we possibly want to
stop this? First of all, nothing is safe and effective
about any of these things. You take these drugs, you
may end up Sari one day, you may end up
I mean, we don't even know the long term effects
of these. We want to give these to kids. You
want to give these drugs that have a huge impact
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on their growth, on their development, on their future to kids.
You know, my kids come up to me sometimes and
they tell my daughter wants to be an elf on
the shelf, Like she literally is, like, I'm an elf
on the shelf. We got one named Winter that things
had a couple of different names. Now can't wait for
that one to go away for the season and not
come back for a very long time. But nonetheless, day
(06:21):
to day they change what they're doing. My son was
a diehard Kansas City Chiefs fan. Now he tells me
he's rooting for the Jaguars all of a sudden, like
what's going on. Kids don't have the ability to make
these decisions, okay, And the point that I think Republicans
have had is that we should never be offering medication
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or procedures to kids that it will permanently damage them.
They don't have the brain capacity to make this decision.
They don't even know what they want themselves. I can
see at a time in my life whenever I was
really into sports, all I wanted was to be a
football player. I used to go practice kicking a football
because it's like, maybe I'll be a kid or on
a team had I been born twenty years later, I
(07:03):
could very clearly see how a teacher out there may
get me at a weak moment and say like, Hey,
if you feel like you want to be a football
player and you wish you were a boy, which I
used to say to my dad all the time, I
wish I'd have been born a boy, maybe you should
just go for it. Imagine I listened to those people.
Imagine I listened to this lunatic who wants to give
this stuff to our kids. No, this is something the
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president feels very strongly about. This is something that a
lot of parents are terrified about. And you live in
the wrong state in America, and you have no say.
If your child goes to the school and says, this
is what I want to do, they don't need to
say anything to you. And if you try to stop
your child, they could be taken away from you from
with child protective Services. That's where we are in America,
(07:46):
ladies and gentlemen. So let's make sure we start voting
people into office who don't say crazy things like this.
Let's make sure we start putting people in office who
actually care about our kids and don't want to destroy
their future, which all of this nonsense we'll do all right. Tonight,
we're joined by former RNC national spokesperson Elizabeth Pipco, as
(08:08):
well as editor at large for The Washington Times Alex Swoyer.
Alex and Elizabeth tis the season. Welcome to the show.
I'll tell you what the gift that kind of keeps
on giving in terms of just full blown chaos is
the state of Minnesota. Man, it is a disaster over there. Liz.
We thought that it was like a billion dollars that
(08:29):
was stolen in this kind of fraud, this medicaid medicare
fraud that was perpetrated on the people of Minnesota via
a largely Somali population there. It turns out it's closer
to nine billion dollars nine billion. That's crazy. And the
crazy part to me is that this money didn't just
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stay there in Minnesota. It's not like these people some
of it did. We're getting themselves cars and all kinds
of things with a trips, this, that, and the other.
A lot of this money got sent overseas, back to Somalia,
back to a terrorist organization, al Shabab. That is a
big problem for the people of this country. Not only
do we not like people stealing from us, we certainly
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don't like them stealing from us and then sending money
to terrorists. That's a big problem. President Trump said that
Minnesota was a hub of fraudulent money laundering activity. And
I thought it was interesting too, because whenever you listen
to the first assistant US Attorney there, he seems to
(09:32):
think that this is even bigger than what we know
right now. He says, I don't make these generalizations in
a hasty way. When I say significant amount, I'm talking
on the order of half or more. What he's talking
about is that there have been eighteen billion dollars in
Medicare claims or Medicaid claims in the state of Minnesota
since twenty eighteen. He believes that half or more Liz
(09:56):
were fraudulent, meaning these people are just We're just running
a whole, full blown scam. He says the magnitude of
front of Minnesota cannot be overstated. It's staggering amounts of
money that have been lost. He sees red claim red
flags all over the claims that he's looked at already.
I don't think it's going to get much better. I
(10:16):
think he's going to continue getting worse.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Liz.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Tim Walls, huh.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Poor a tampon, Tim.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
I mean, all I can think about is thank God,
obviously for President Trump, for Jadevans.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I mean, this man was.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
So close, or at least people thought he was so
close to that Oval office, and now we're realizing that
he was probably one of the worst VP picks, I think,
in American political history, and also realizing what goes on
in our country when there's like just a tiny bit
of a spotlight placed on this, I'm sure it does
not you know, stop in Minnesota. I'm sure this is
going on everywhere, and I'm also sure of that mostly
(10:48):
because of the response to this. Right, you and I
are talking about it. I've obviously seen Fox covering it,
but most people aren't talking about it. I know a
lot of folks who haven't even heard about this scandal.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And that's the problem.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Right, No one wants to report on it because it
makes Democrats look bad, It makes Tim Wallas look bad,
it makes Minnesota, of course look bad. But this should
be breaking news everywhere until we get to the bottom
of what happened and make sure it never happens again.
Like you said, the money was not just spent illegally here.
It was sent to literal terrorists, right, sent to those
that want to deshow Americans stand against everything that we
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stand for. Those are American tax dollars that were sent
overseas and a huge scandal. It should be one of
the biggest political scandals of this last decade. Meanwhile, there
are people who haven't even heard about it because all
they hear is bad things about President Trump. So I
just wish more people spoke about it. I know that
we know what the media stands for at this point,
and how hypocritical they are.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
But you would think when something like.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
This breaks that you would want to use the opportunity
to show that you aren't a hypocrite and report on
the mistakes that even democrats, yes, democrats, have made in
our country. But again, thank god for the good people
reporting on it, and thank god people are realizing that
this is happening in front of our own eyes and
at least trying to put a stop to it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, and obviously this is this encompasses Medicare and Medicaid
alex And the interesting thing is from that perspective there
the centers for Medicare and Medicaid are actually saying, look,
we're trying to get some of this money back. Like
I know, they think it's just gone. We're trying to
get it back. Whenever the whenever you come over from
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another country, you often have to have a sponsor or
someone here who kind of vouches for you, an American
citizen who says like, Yeah, these are good people, this
is a good person, this would be a great fit
to come to the state of Minnesota. I can vouch
for their character, I can vouch for their work ethic.
They're going to fit in great in this country. We
want to have these people here. So at the centers
for Medicare and Medicaid, they're saying, where are those Americans
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who vouch for these people because they weren't so great
and somebody owes a lot of money back to the taxpayers.
Here's what doctor Oz, who's the administrator for Medicare and
Medicaid said. He said, if we're unsatisfied with the states'
plans or cooperation, we'll stop paying the federal share of
these programs. The message to Walls is clear, either fix
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this in sixty days or start looking under your couch
for spare change, because we're done putting the bill for
your incompetence. Not only are they on the Americans who
vouch for these people to come here, these largely Somali
populations that's wrapped up in this, they're also looking at
Tim Walls, Alex and they're saying, you got to figure
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out what happened here and how we're going to get
this money back.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
Well to both of your points, Laura and Elizabeth, you
both hit on why the media isn't covering this. First,
we talked about how it makes Democrats look bad. But
Laura you just went into. It also talks about the
issues with our immigration system, right, that's a big topic.
So reporters they should be digging into this. There could
be a various angles they could be exploring. But you know,
(13:48):
because it does touch immigration and the Somali population, I'm
not sure if we're going to get a fair shake
from you know, MSNBC or.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Whatever, Okay, And.
Speaker 9 (14:00):
I guess I don't want it, So I don't know.
I think it's has been not a now. But one
of the things I was going to also mention is
when we first started learning about this, if you recall,
I think there was dozens of whistleblowers, dozens of like
state employees who had come forward about this, raising concerns,
and that had been put at BAY. I think we're
(14:20):
getting at a point now with the number you mentioned,
nine billion. I think the US attorney even said, like
quote staggering amounts, even expects that to go higher, that
there needs to be some criminal liability at the top.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
What happened?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Who was did somebody know about this and was hiding it?
I think those are legitimate questions that a good reporter
would be asking and pushing forward and hopefully we'll have
some accountability. I'm a little nervous about doctor Oz's sixty
day deadline. I'm not sure the state will be able
to put to meet that sixty day requirement. It should,
but given the rampant amount of fraud, I'm not sure
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that that's realistic, especially because it's Walls is the one
who added appointed. I guess I should call a director
of program integrity. So do we trust him to be
the one to appoint some director of integrity that's going
to come forward and be able to give the Feds
these reports?
Speaker 8 (15:11):
I don't think so. I think that there.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
Needs to be someone from the outside coming in.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, I agree that there's more to this than just
the fraud. This is also an immigration issue, and you're right,
that's why the mainstream folks out there don't want to
talk about this because it backs up what President Trump
has said, by the way, all the way since back
in like twenty seventeen, when you have these diversity visa
programs where there was this lottery to bring people here
(15:37):
to America from various countries, Liz, where maybe we didn't
get a lot of immigrants from those countries and we
just sought them out to diversify our immigrant population. How stupid?
Who cares? How about this? Let's give people to come
to America who want to come here and contribute to
our society, who want to come here and pursue their
(15:59):
version of the American dream. Who gives a crap? Quite frankly,
where these people are from, if they want to come here,
they're welcome to come here and apply like everyone else does,
to become a United States citizen and to come into America.
But all the way back in twenty seventeen, President Trump
was calling this out and saying like, hey, I don't know,
I don't know if we want to continue this program.
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I don't believe in this. This is a great example
of what happens when you don't bring the best and
the brightest into the United States of America. Instead you
go for some dei program that led itself down this
path where you have again this huge and no one
would say it. Oh, the Somali population. Guess what it was,
(16:40):
the Somali population there in Minnesota who perpetrated most of
this nine billion, probably plus dollars that were defrauded from
taxpayers here in America. That's a big problem. We have
to start talking about the root of these problems. Otherwise
we're just kind of skimming the surface on it.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Liz are and I think the problem is, as you
both hit on, people are genuinely afraid of this topic
because they they know that, you know, they sound like
common sense Republicans if they start telling the truth. And
you mentioned twenty seventeen. Of course President Trumphy first got
in was able to see just how bad this was.
But he talked about it in twenty fifteen when he
announced that's when they started calling him every name in
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the book, when all he said was they're not sending
their best, and the reality is they're not. They're sending
those that want to take advantage of our country. There
are so many people that come here obviously wanting to
be proud Americans, wanting to work their butts off, wanting
to become you know, that American dream. My own two
parents came here the right way and fought tooth and
nail to give me the life that I have right now.
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And they're embarrassed by those that come here the wrong way.
They're embarrassed by Democrats who cover for those people. They
want everyone to come here correctly and for nobody, let
alone foreigners to come and take advantage of our great system.
So I think the reality is Donald Trump said it
in twenty fifteen. The world turned on him then, but
every common sense Americans that hey, this is actually exactly
what we're worried about. This is what we need. And
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how dare you Democrat or Republican want to put somebody
else before a legal American citizen or someone who came
here the right way to try and become one.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So again, thank.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
God for the President, but thank God also for just
common sense Americans who want people to come here, who
love when people come here the right way, but who
want people that want to be here and have no
interest in treating our system poorly, taking advantage of the
American people, wasting American tax dollars, or even worse, sending
them to terrorist groups.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, that's about That doesn't get much worse than that.
That's pretty bad when when you go in on that path,
just in the same area of the country. Remember the Milwaukee,
Wisconsin judge Hannah Dugan who back last spring was helping
an illegal immigrant. She basically was obstructing ice. And she's
a judge who you got video of her kind of
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like helping this guy out in like escaping from being
arrested essentially, Alex by Ice, Well, she's been found guilty
of obstructing Immigration and Customs enforcement agents during that incident
where they were trying to serve a warrant at the courthouse.
But of course she attempted, like I said, to help
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this illegal immigrant out. I mean, you're a judge, You're
supposed to apply the law. It's just it's outrageous. It's crazy.
She's found guilty by a jury and is now facing
up to five years in prison on account of felony obstruction.
And it was an only a six hour deliberation of
the jury, Alex, it took to figure this out that
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they were gonna say, yeah, you're definitely guilty of this.
This this one to a lot of us when we
saw this, Alex was like, I mean, it was just crazy.
Where have we come in America? Where you, as a judge,
is a person who's supposed to enforce the laws, are
helping someone forward the law just just flagrantly doing it.
(19:54):
I mean, I guess good news is she's gonna be
you know, she's not guilty. She's gonna have to serve
some time for it.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
And hopefully lose her judge ship.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Right.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I don't know how you can go to prison or
go to jail and not and stay on the bench.
But we'll see what happens with her. I think there's
a couple things to note. You said a quick six
hour deliberation. I'm thinking, did it really take them six
hours to like?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
What come on?
Speaker 8 (20:19):
It's pretty obvious to what happened. So there's that.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
The other aspect of this is we're putting we're seeing
a judge put a criminal, illegal alien ahead of US citizens,
but also to that point, a domestic abuser charged with
strangulation suffocation of our fellow Americans.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
That's a problem, right.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
These are is a felony to come into this country illegally,
But when you also have someone who's violent, who has
a violent passed, why would anyone Democrat, Republican judge or
not want them to stay in this country or evade arrest.
It's sincerely teds to an extreme. And what we're seeing
here is it's great that this judge is being held
accountable because I hope the same is done with the
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new Jersey lawmaker who rushed the Ice facility who was
facing charges I believe still pending. We've seen a thousand
plus percent attacks on our ice agents. It's time that
we see this type of sentence across all media platforms.
So people get the idea that you will be held
to account, no matter who you are, if you assault
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federal agents trying to do their job. And so I
think that's one of the most important takeaways from this. Also,
it should be a warning to other judges out there,
which Laura, your family is no you knows you're well
aware of these activist judges across the board, whether it's
personal or what they've done to the administration. Judge Boseburg
comes to mind with some of his orders, and so
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I think this is great to see a judge held
to account. I'm curious if we're going to see lawmakers
in Congress do anything with some of these federal judges
that have been, you know, having a dose with their
own tds, whether it's in orders or in their written opinions.
I have a story coming out soon about Reagan appointees.
Some of the things they've put in opinions are eyebrow raising,
(22:09):
taking democratic talking points about the rule of law and
somehow that gets in a judicial opinion. I think it's
alarming and there needs to be some accountability.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Wow, well, we'll definitely look out for that, Alex for sure.
You know, in my mind was this judge and those
you know, those activist judges sort of like Alex is
talking about, Judge Murshan comes to mind as well. We
might people might know that name as well. In my mind,
they feel like they're some kind of freedom fighter, like
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they're standing up like history is going to look back
on them as you know, like some person who helped
right the wrongs of our society right now, you know,
the freedom fighters, and when history right, there's gonna be
a whole movie on this judge. These people are delusional.
You're breaking the law. The law of the land is
that if you come here and you come here improperly,
(23:02):
you're it's illegal. You broke our law and there has
to be accountability for that. And guess who holds you
to account. Immigration and Customs Enforcement does it. It's so funny, though,
because I feel like, once there's some space from this,
and once these people actually get a handle on their
life again and they stop their tds because look, Donald
Trump is not going to be president forever. I know
(23:25):
that the Democrats are gonna hate to hear that. They
think he's gonna hold on. He's just gonna hold up
in the White House and just like they'll have to
drag him out by his fingernails. That's not the case
when he leaves. What is their excuse going to be then, Liz,
like they're going to look back on this one day
and say, God, we look like such utter fools. I mean,
(23:46):
at least I believe they will for sure.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
And by the way, it's not just Democrats. I'm also
sad that Donald Trump is not going to be president forever.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
A lot of us are. But no, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
I remember someone asking Major the first term, how I
feel about those that were like serving in the ADMIN
and coming out and speaking against Donald Trump and what
that must mean about what it takes to work for him,
And I said, has nothing to do with him. It
has to do with this environment that the media has
created where they will actually turn you into an overnight
celebrity if you turn on Donald Trump. Never before that
(24:17):
have we seen anyone be rewarded for turning against the
president of the United States or an American administration.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
The office of the.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
President was respected, whether you voted for them or not,
whether it was George Bush or Barack Obama or anybody else.
You were not put on MS now or CNN or
anything else. You didn't get you know, you didn't get
book deals right away, nothing happened. If you turned against
the president, you were kind of just laughed at. And
now it's the opposite. You become an overnight celebrity. You're
welcome into Hollywood circles, you're welcome on television, you get
(24:44):
a little bit of a following, and like you said,
in a few years when Trump is out of office,
you realize now that really mattered, and you actually a
kind of a traitor to your own country, and you
know yourself actually for going against your previous positions because
you want to have a tiny bit of fame. So
I think it's just an environment we've never seen before.
And it's said that people at the highest levels of
authority in our country, like judges, can kind of become,
(25:06):
you know, a part of it as well and fall
for it too, and hope to get a few Twitter
followers out of it or a few pats on the back.
But that's kind of what's happened, and it's taken over,
and I just hope most people realize again, it's not
about Donald Trump or US. It's about the country that
we're supposed to love, regardless of who's in that oval office.
And they all just look like really bad hypocrites. And
we're all going to remember this when we look back,
(25:27):
like you said, on this, when Donald Trump is no
longer the president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
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is Christmas. Yeah, even the judges are not immune to
Trump derangement syndrome. They even have suffered from it. It's
really crazy. But speaking of the Democrats, you know, oftentimes,
if you are like a sports team, for example, and
you horribly lose a game, you go back Alex and
you watch the footage from the game and you kind
(28:01):
of play by play dissect and do an autopsy of
sorts on that game, and you say, like, what went
wrong here? What plays could we have done better? Where
could we clean ourselves up? Where can we tighten it
up a little bit for the next game so that
maybe we don't go in and completely embarrass ourselves. So
the Democrats did this apparently for the twenty twenty four election.
(28:22):
Which man, did they need to do that? Because what
a complete and total disaster. And it's interesting because they
of course talked about it and they said, well, you know,
we're going to release this autopsy. We're going to figure
out what went wrong. Release the autopsy. And then Ken Martin,
(28:42):
the DNC chair, who previously said he would publicly release
the review of the twenty twenty four election, said in
a statement that the review was complete and the committee
was already putting our learnings into motion. They're saying now,
they're like, you know what, we actually don't need to
release that, and you know, we're not even going to
talk about it. We're just going to focus on winning. Well,
(29:04):
how do you do that, Alex If you can't even
talk about what went wrong? And I mean, maybe in
some cases, as Republicans we should celebrate this, but if
I were a Democrat voter, I'd be pretty perturbed by
the fact that the DNC is not going to talk
at all about what went wrong in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
Yes, to your point, I think Democratic voters have some
frustration about this. But even beyond that, I think it
could be other fellow Democratic candidates that are looking to
possibly run in twenty twenty eight. I saw some reporting
that the idea of not releasing this report suggests that
there's a favor to Kamala Harris and if she decides
(29:45):
to run again that this does her a favor. I'm questioning,
you know. I guess the reporter in me is wondering
if we're going to get a leak of this autopsy report,
because you would think, just like any healthy organization, there
would be some dissent about this decision, especially given the
fact that I think I read hundreds of Democratic voters
were interviewed for this across all fifty states. You would
(30:06):
think this would be something that they spent time and
money on if they would want to benefit from and
you utilize. But I guess that's what Democratic lawmakers do.
Democratic politicians, they like to waste the time and money,
so here we are again seeing them do it with
the autopsy report. To your point, I do think Republicans
benefit from this. It suggests to not only Democratic voters,
(30:27):
but independents Republicans that the Democratic Party is not willing
to address what went wrong. I think part of the
reason they're not wanting this out there is because it's
obvious common sense issues. Immigration, a lot of the LGBTQ issues,
you know, transgender athletes in girls' sports, and girls bathrooms
and schools, all of that. I think did not play
(30:47):
to their favor. And it's common sense, it's what Republicans
have been saying, and it would just you know, fuel
the right and let the American people know that Republicans.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Donald Trump was right.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, we can't have that, cannot possibly have something like that, Liz.
As part of the review, this committee interviewed people across
all fifty states about issues with both the presidential and
down ballot races in twenty twenty four and any previous
structural challenges that were in place. The results included lessons
(31:19):
about organizing, communications, fundraising, and spending. Though the report found
Democrats outspent Republicans at all levels. But we knew that
you and I were at the RNC. We knew that
they were spending boatloads of money. And now they're in
debt the DNC because of they're bad candidate and Kamala
Harris both of them, quite frankly, Joe and Kamala terrible candidates,
(31:44):
and them trying to sell something that the American people
were not interested in. They thought, let's just keep throwing
money at it and maybe it'll help, maybe it'll do something.
It's very clear if you go back and look that
the people I think of this country lost a lot
of faith in the entire process based on what happened
in twenty twenty four. They did not give their voters
(32:06):
a chance to vote for someone. They plugged in candidates,
including Joe Biden. There were people who wanted to challenge
Joe Biden. Don't forget RFK Junior, who's now our HHS secretary,
wanted to run for president as a Democrat. They wouldn't
allow him on any ballots. Dean Phillips wanted to run
for president as a Democrat. They wanted to primary Joe Biden.
(32:27):
Which if any of these people at the DNC had
any kind of sense, man, how much better off would
they have been doing that having Joe Biden at that
point early on kind of say like, all right, I'm
out of here. I'm gonna step aside. I'm gonna like
pass it on. Those are two strong candidates. Instead, they
let him stay in there. They pushed anybody who wanted
to challenge him out, and then in the eleventh hour,
(32:48):
when they started panicking because they knew Joe couldn't win,
they said, oh, what do we do? The only person
we have is Kamala Harris. There I saved everybody. The
post mortem on the twenty twenty four election where the
Democrats was.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You did know that that's literally what happened.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
And then, like you said, if through all the money
that they had at the problem, convinced that it would
win because they believe that they are not only right,
but they believe that they are better than the American people,
that they can spend enough money to trick them or
to convince them into voting the way that they believe
is right, because they actually look down on the American public.
We saw this happen in twenty sixteen. It wasn't even
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an idea in anyone's minds that President Trump could win.
It wasn't just because he was against Hillary Clinton. It
was because he was against the operation that she had built,
all the money that you had behind her, the staff
she had, which was like over five times bigger than
our staff, the experience that you had, and the idea
that no American was going to go out and think
for themselves when they were being told by every single writer,
(33:45):
every single you know, Hollywood star, every single advertisement that
they had, because again they had many more then we did,
that they had to vote for Hillary Clinton and that's
what was going to happen. I think on election day
the New York Times that there was a ninety eight
percent chance that she won, because they could not fathom
that the American public could think for themselves and would
disagree with the narrative that they had spent so much
time and money on building and shoving down all of
(34:06):
our throats, and they did not learn their lesson. I
don't think they did an autopsy in twenty sixteen either, obviously,
because they tried it again. Like you said, they didn't
care that Joe Biden was not the candidate anybody wanted.
They didn't care that Kamala Harris was not the replacement
candidate anybody wanted. They believed if you continued to spend money,
which again they spent more than we did, on telling
the American public Donald Trump was bad, that that was
(34:26):
just going to work. That they were going to pay Oprah,
they were going to pay different rappers to show up.
They were going to tell the people Donald Trump is
even more evil than he was before. That's why they
tried to throw him in prison and spend all of
your tax dollars on investigating him. He was going to
end up back at home and Kamala Harris would take
the rightful throne of the presidency. And it didn't work.
And I don't know if the autopsy is really necessary.
(34:47):
Like you said, we know exactly what happened, But I
hope they gained a little bit of respect for the
American public, that's it, and realize that any candidate moving forward,
right or left, actually has to win over the votes of.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
The American people.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
You can't just spend money anymore in higher the best consultant.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
It doesn't work.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
In the age of twenty twenty five, the age of
President Trump, or candidates have had to literally prove themselves
against every single obstacle that's come their way and set
a precedent that most people honestly are not going to
be able to follow.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, we deserve it as a country. That's
how the process is supposed to work. You know, we
the people are supposed to vote for who we want
to represent us on a whole different host of spaces
in Congress, in the White House, right all the way
top to bottom. But the Democrats have pretty clearly now
for three elections, just decided like, man, we don't really
(35:36):
care about that. They did it with Joe and Kamala.
Obviously we saw that I would say they did. It's
Bernie Sanders twice in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty.
So if you're a Democrat voter out there, you may
want to take a look at your party a little bit.
You may want to kind of really consider what am
I doing? Why am I voting for these people? They
don't really care what I want. Before we wrap up
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here today, something that I think about a lot as
a mom. My kids are six and eight. They're too
young to have phones. They're not gonna have phones for
a long time, any sort of a device. In fact,
my husband and I took away any devices that they had.
They had an iPad that they would share in fifteen
minutes of time, you know, once a day if they
(36:17):
did all their homework and got everything done. Alex. We
took that away about three months ago. We're done with that.
We're just and now my kid's are reading a lot more.
It's actually sort of amazing. But a new Fox News
poll shows that apparently sixty four percent of parents would
be in favor of banning social media for children under
(36:39):
the age of sixteen. By the way, that's pretty staggering.
I'm gonna go ahead and plug myself into that category.
I think we've seen the horrors of social media. You know,
you keep seeing more and more of these kids who
are committing suicide because they are sort of like entrapped
in a situation where it's not even like people they
(37:02):
know most of the time. They somehow get down this
path of a person who says, hey, they're trying to
extort them. They're saying, well, you pay me a certain
amount of money, or I'm going to release these like
naked pictures of you that you sent because you thought
it was you know, somebody that I'm not. It's it's
really scary stuff. I think it just goes to add
(37:22):
to like depression and body image issues and anxiety, all
the things. I am in favor of this. What do
you think about this?
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Alex one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
I sixty four percent, and that pole is high, but
I kind of was surprised it wasn't even higher. I
would think this would be a seventy percent or higher issue.
Speaker 8 (37:40):
To be frank, I'm.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Somebody who doesn't like the government coming in and regulating anything,
but here I would totally support Kung I think it
should be a bipartisan issue that they should come in
and get some sort of age limits to social media.
For sure, even sixteen seems a little young, Like we know,
you know it's eighteen plus to be tried as an
adult because your brain's not quite developed, right. I think
that that's something that should be considered and looked at.
(38:02):
I think other countries have done this, if I recall correctly. Yes,
And you know, I think it's so important. I have
a four year old daughter, she just turned forced. I
have a little bit of time before she's really into
any sort of electronics. But I think it's terrifying to
your point talking about the depression and the anxiety, the bulling,
the cyberbulling that happens these days. You know, when I
(38:24):
was little, there was no internet, right, so nothing lasted forever.
But here you have something that could last forever haunt
these little kids who are not emotionally developed to handle that.
One more thing I think next month is there's a
trial that's actually going to be taking place involving some
of these social media companies that have been sued by
school districts, and they're talking about one of these social
(38:46):
media companies to have some sort of funding for counseling
in schools, that sort of thing, fixing some age problems
with their sites. And that's when I'm watching I think
that there's some real teeth there that these school districts
they can see it real and in person, live what's
happening in classrooms with friends and classmates because of social media.
(39:07):
So yes, I am one of the sixty four percent
that would definitely support increasing an age to access on
social media, whether no matter what the platform is. Snatchat Facebook, Instagram,
all of it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just it's all. It's all bad, Liz, It's all
just the brain is developing. I remember being back in
like high school and the tiniest thing was like the
biggest deal.
Speaker 8 (39:30):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
And you get a little bit older and you get
a little life experience and you're like, oh, well that
doesn't really matter. But I can still tell you and
Liz you probably know this too, Alex you probably as well.
You know, once you get the first like nasty article
written about you, it can be it can be very
jarring and now, my god, like it's like water off
a duck's back, like we're so used to it in
my family, we don't even bad an eyelash at it.
(39:52):
But it is tough. It's still tough for adults to
deal with this stuff, let alone kids. By the way, Alex,
you said you thought it should be a seventy percent
or more issue. I'll tell you what actually is is
banning cell phones in K through twelve classrooms. Sixty nine
percent of people were in favor of that. I think
that this is to me, this is exactly where we
(40:14):
need to be going. I mean, I hate to Alex's point,
I hate Liz the idea of adding a government, you know,
big brother type thing to any space. I want freedom
for all, et cetera. This is like a little bit
like alcohol and cigarettes. To me, it is very dangerous.
It's very detrimental to health and development of our kids.
(40:35):
And I, as a parent, would love because you know,
the problem is going to be if I tell my kids, well,
you can't have this until you're in eighth grade or older,
which is what a lot of these schools are trying
to advocate for right now social media, at least in phones.
Then what happens when their friend who is you know,
ten years old, already has a phone and is already
(40:56):
on social media. It's hard to say to your kid, well,
you can't do it because you're alienating them from so
much of what's going on out there. So let's just
do a blanket. I'm great with that. What do you think, Liz.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
No, I completely agree.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
I think most common sense people agree, even those like
us who really really hate government overreach. I still think,
much like the abortion issue, I think the government has
a responsibility of protecting the most vulnerable and innocent among us.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Those are miners, those are kids.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
A lot of kids, by the way, don't have parents
to make these decisions for them. And I don't think
anyone should have to be harmed by social media or
anything else because they didn't have the privilege of having
two parents like many of us did to protect them.
I think we don't even know how bad social media is.
We don't have enough time and research done yet to
see the actual negative effects it will have on the
next generation. I am terrified to find out. I'm so
(41:43):
terrified looking at my niece's phones and seeing the pictures
that they post and what they see, and knowing that
anyone can contact them at any point from anywhere in
the world. I think this is a no brainer. I
don't know why it's less than seventy percent. I think
most people, if you ask them, would say anyone under
eighteen should be protected from the most dangerous that's around.
The Internet is definitely one of those threats. And I
think all of our kids would do a lot better
(42:05):
moving forward if we got rid of phones and tablets
and Facebook and Instagram and everything else and just let
kids be kids for the first time in a while.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Man, what a novel idea, Liz, Let's let kids be kids.
It's really true that whenever you take this stuff away,
they thrive. I've seen it with my own two kids,
and yeah, they give you a little pushback at first,
and then you're just like, well, no, that's it. It's done.
You're the parent, you lay down the law, you tell
them what's going to happen, and then they have no alternative,
(42:33):
and they go outside and they make up games together
and they figure it out and it's a beautiful thing
to see. Liz and Alex want to just say thank
you very much for joining us today, wishing everyone including you,
to a very merry Christmas out there, and until next time,
make sure you like, subscribe, Share, and follow. We'll see
you back here for more of the right view and
(42:57):
mom back down, baby babe.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
There ain't no eade. We are
And oh loll back down.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, thanks so much for joining us right here
on the right view. Before we get started tonight, just
want to start with a couple of videos. See what's
going on out there, See what we got here? We go.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And everybody who was like, oh, Rachel, you and the
Russia stuff, like, isn't that really isn't that a little
over the top? Like how what do you what do
you mean that? Donald Trump and Russia? I'm sorry, We
now have a white House that works for the for
the Kremlin, and they're not even they're not even hiding it.
(00:45):
They're not even hiding it anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, I have a lot of thoughts. How long do
we have for this this video? First of all, what
is Rachel Matto wearing? Are is that a that's that's
what you chose to wear? It's like a snuggie or
I don't know what she's got on there, a blanket
perhaps on her. The other individual in that video is
Jamie Harrison. He was the chairman of the DNC while
(01:10):
I was the co chair of the RNC, and I
vividly remember Jamie laughing about me becoming the co chair,
being voted into that position. By the members of the
Republican National Committee and saying that we were going to lose,
that we weren't going to be able to fundraise that.
What did I know about anything? Well, Jamie, how did
(01:33):
it work out? I'll wait for you to respond to that.
The other part of that video is perhaps the most
crazy thing I've ever heard. They're still trying I hope
everybody understood what was going on there, still trying to
push the Russia collusion hoax. How is this White House
Rachel working for the Kremlin? And Jamie, can anybody explain
(01:56):
that to me? I recall the Hillary Clinton campaign actually
colluding to sway an election with Russia. Steve dossier, the
email is back and forth, the interference of our federal
law enforcement agencies to prop that up and to kind
of push it out there as a narrative. When are
(02:18):
you guys talking about that? When are we going to
go down that path? No one from the Trump campaign,
donald Trump himself, no one in our family ever colluded
with Russia. And you know how we know? There was
the Mueller investigation, tens of millions of dollars, two years
of an investigation, and a waste of so much effort
(02:38):
to show what there was no collusion. These people are crazy.
These people are delusional, and they have absolutely no idea
what to do with themselves. Because Donald Trump is delivering
for the American people. He's actually doing the things he
said he was going to do when he got into
the White House. They don't know how to handle it.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Jamie.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I'm still waiting for the apology from you, so I'll
be here. You know where to find me.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I don't know what to do. We should do whatever
you want to read a brook watch nighttime talk shows.
You don't like the view or something?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
What's the view?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
A bunch of pissed off millionaires mentioned about how much
they hate millionaires, trump Man and everybody else. They got
to be up there ass about it's pretty funny. Film
sound funny? I joke FI, It's like park Church by you.
That's no sound funny either. It depends on your proximity
to the fart.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean, if I had to, uh, if I were
pushed to say, what I would associate with the view.
Maybe it is flatulence. Maybe it is that that's that's
pretty solid. That's how you know things are changing right there.
Whenever you have on a kind of mainstream TV show
like that knocking the View. I mean, the View has
(04:00):
been around forever, right. It used to be something that
people would tune into and say like, oh, maybe we
can kind of get a hot take on. Now you
don't do that anymore. The people who tune into the
View tune in because they're miserable and they want to
see other miserable people just kind of dump on Donald
Trump and Republicans and the country as much as they
(04:21):
possibly can. But yeah, that's pretty much it. That's exactly
how I would describe them. The fact that that is
out on a mainstream platform of any variety, and that's
on a pretty standard show these days. Maybe it shows
you the tide is changing. Maybe it shows you that
somebody out there somewhere is getting it. Half the country
(04:42):
is conservative, if not more. We know that the people
in every possible state in America moved to the right
this past election. So I don't know, maybe they're starting
to get it, And you know what, that's okay with me.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
And the most common form of gender firming care for
young people is medications that simply pause puberty and have
been used safely for decades.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
So why do my colleagues across the aisle.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
So called limited government people suddenly want government to get
in the way of the decisions that parents and their
kids make together. Why did they want to stop children
from getting medical care that has been proven to be
safe and effective and helps them to live happily, helps
them to.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Live, just live.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Why do they want why would we possibly want to
stop this? First of all, nothing is safe and effective
about any of these things. You take these drugs, you
may end up Sari one day, you may end up
I mean, we don't even know the long term effects
of these. We want to give these to kids. You
want to give these drugs that have a huge impact
(05:59):
on their growth, on their development, on their future to kids.
You know, my kids come up to me sometimes and
they tell my daughter wants to be an elf on
the shelf, Like she literally is, like, I'm an elf
on the shelf. We got one named Winter that things
had a couple of different names. Now can't wait for
that one to go away for the season and not
come back for a very long time. But nonetheless, day
(06:21):
to day they change what they're doing. My son was
a diehard Kansas City Chiefs fan. Now he tells me
he's rooting for the Jaguars all of a sudden, like
what's going on. Kids don't have the ability to make
these decisions, okay, And the point that I think Republicans
have had is that we should never be offering medication
(06:42):
or procedures to kids that it will permanently damage them.
They don't have the brain capacity to make this decision.
They don't even know what they want themselves. I can
see at a time in my life whenever I was
really into sports, all I wanted was to be a
football player. I used to go practice kicking a football
because it's like, maybe I'll be a kid or on
a team had I been born twenty years later, I
(07:03):
could very clearly see how a teacher out there may
get me at a weak moment and say like, Hey,
if you feel like you want to be a football
player and you wish you were a boy, which I
used to say to my dad all the time, I
wish I'd have been born a boy, maybe you should
just go for it. Imagine I listened to those people.
Imagine I listened to this lunatic who wants to give
this stuff to our kids. No, this is something the
(07:26):
president feels very strongly about. This is something that a
lot of parents are terrified about. And you live in
the wrong state in America, and you have no say.
If your child goes to the school and says, this
is what I want to do, they don't need to
say anything to you. And if you try to stop
your child, they could be taken away from you from
with child protective Services. That's where we are in America,
(07:46):
ladies and gentlemen. So let's make sure we start voting
people into office who don't say crazy things like this.
Let's make sure we start putting people in office who
actually care about our kids and don't want to destroy
their future, which all of this nonsense we'll do all right. Tonight,
we're joined by former RNC national spokesperson Elizabeth Pipco, as
(08:08):
well as editor at large for The Washington Times Alex Swoyer.
Alex and Elizabeth tis the season. Welcome to the show.
I'll tell you what the gift that kind of keeps
on giving in terms of just full blown chaos is
the state of Minnesota. Man, it is a disaster over there. Liz.
We thought that it was like a billion dollars that
(08:29):
was stolen in this kind of fraud, this medicaid medicare
fraud that was perpetrated on the people of Minnesota via
a largely Somali population there. It turns out it's closer
to nine billion dollars nine billion. That's crazy. And the
crazy part to me is that this money didn't just
(08:51):
stay there in Minnesota. It's not like these people some
of it did. We're getting themselves cars and all kinds
of things with a trips, this, that, and the other.
A lot of this money got sent overseas, back to Somalia,
back to a terrorist organization, al Shabab. That is a
big problem for the people of this country. Not only
do we not like people stealing from us, we certainly
(09:11):
don't like them stealing from us and then sending money
to terrorists. That's a big problem. President Trump said that
Minnesota was a hub of fraudulent money laundering activity. And
I thought it was interesting too, because whenever you listen
to the first assistant US Attorney there, he seems to
(09:32):
think that this is even bigger than what we know
right now. He says, I don't make these generalizations in
a hasty way. When I say significant amount, I'm talking
on the order of half or more. What he's talking
about is that there have been eighteen billion dollars in
Medicare claims or Medicaid claims in the state of Minnesota
since twenty eighteen. He believes that half or more Liz
(09:56):
were fraudulent, meaning these people are just We're just running
a whole, full blown scam. He says the magnitude of
front of Minnesota cannot be overstated. It's staggering amounts of
money that have been lost. He sees red claim red
flags all over the claims that he's looked at already.
I don't think it's going to get much better. I
(10:16):
think he's going to continue getting worse.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Liz.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Tim Walls, huh.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Poor a tampon, Tim.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
I mean, all I can think about is thank God,
obviously for President Trump, for Jadevans.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I mean, this man was.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
So close, or at least people thought he was so
close to that Oval office, and now we're realizing that
he was probably one of the worst VP picks, I think,
in American political history, and also realizing what goes on
in our country when there's like just a tiny bit
of a spotlight placed on this, I'm sure it does
not you know, stop in Minnesota. I'm sure this is
going on everywhere, and I'm also sure of that mostly
(10:48):
because of the response to this. Right, you and I
are talking about it. I've obviously seen Fox covering it,
but most people aren't talking about it. I know a
lot of folks who haven't even heard about this scandal.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And that's the problem.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Right, No one wants to report on it because it
makes Democrats look bad, It makes Tim Wallas look bad,
it makes Minnesota, of course look bad. But this should
be breaking news everywhere until we get to the bottom
of what happened and make sure it never happens again.
Like you said, the money was not just spent illegally here.
It was sent to literal terrorists, right, sent to those
that want to deshow Americans stand against everything that we
(11:23):
stand for. Those are American tax dollars that were sent
overseas and a huge scandal. It should be one of
the biggest political scandals of this last decade. Meanwhile, there
are people who haven't even heard about it because all
they hear is bad things about President Trump. So I
just wish more people spoke about it. I know that
we know what the media stands for at this point,
and how hypocritical they are.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
But you would think when something like.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
This breaks that you would want to use the opportunity
to show that you aren't a hypocrite and report on
the mistakes that even democrats, yes, democrats, have made in
our country. But again, thank god for the good people
reporting on it, and thank god people are realizing that
this is happening in front of our own eyes and
at least trying to put a stop to it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, and obviously this is this encompasses Medicare and Medicaid
alex And the interesting thing is from that perspective there
the centers for Medicare and Medicaid are actually saying, look,
we're trying to get some of this money back. Like
I know, they think it's just gone. We're trying to
get it back. Whenever the whenever you come over from
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another country, you often have to have a sponsor or
someone here who kind of vouches for you, an American
citizen who says like, Yeah, these are good people, this
is a good person, this would be a great fit
to come to the state of Minnesota. I can vouch
for their character, I can vouch for their work ethic.
They're going to fit in great in this country. We
want to have these people here. So at the centers
for Medicare and Medicaid, they're saying, where are those Americans
(12:44):
who vouch for these people because they weren't so great
and somebody owes a lot of money back to the taxpayers.
Here's what doctor Oz, who's the administrator for Medicare and
Medicaid said. He said, if we're unsatisfied with the states'
plans or cooperation, we'll stop paying the federal share of
these programs. The message to Walls is clear, either fix
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this in sixty days or start looking under your couch
for spare change, because we're done putting the bill for
your incompetence. Not only are they on the Americans who
vouch for these people to come here, these largely Somali
populations that's wrapped up in this, they're also looking at
Tim Walls, Alex and they're saying, you got to figure
(13:25):
out what happened here and how we're going to get
this money back.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
Well to both of your points, Laura and Elizabeth, you
both hit on why the media isn't covering this. First,
we talked about how it makes Democrats look bad. But
Laura you just went into. It also talks about the
issues with our immigration system, right, that's a big topic.
So reporters they should be digging into this. There could
be a various angles they could be exploring. But you know,
(13:48):
because it does touch immigration and the Somali population, I'm
not sure if we're going to get a fair shake
from you know, MSNBC or.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Whatever, Okay, And.
Speaker 9 (14:00):
I guess I don't want it, So I don't know.
I think it's has been not a now. But one
of the things I was going to also mention is
when we first started learning about this, if you recall,
I think there was dozens of whistleblowers, dozens of like
state employees who had come forward about this, raising concerns,
and that had been put at BAY. I think we're
(14:20):
getting at a point now with the number you mentioned,
nine billion. I think the US attorney even said, like
quote staggering amounts, even expects that to go higher, that
there needs to be some criminal liability at the top.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
What happened?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Who was did somebody know about this and was hiding it?
I think those are legitimate questions that a good reporter
would be asking and pushing forward and hopefully we'll have
some accountability. I'm a little nervous about doctor Oz's sixty
day deadline. I'm not sure the state will be able
to put to meet that sixty day requirement. It should,
but given the rampant amount of fraud, I'm not sure
(14:53):
that that's realistic, especially because it's Walls is the one
who added appointed. I guess I should call a director
of program integrity. So do we trust him to be
the one to appoint some director of integrity that's going
to come forward and be able to give the Feds
these reports?
Speaker 8 (15:11):
I don't think so. I think that there.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
Needs to be someone from the outside coming in.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, I agree that there's more to this than just
the fraud. This is also an immigration issue, and you're right,
that's why the mainstream folks out there don't want to
talk about this because it backs up what President Trump
has said, by the way, all the way since back
in like twenty seventeen, when you have these diversity visa
programs where there was this lottery to bring people here
(15:37):
to America from various countries, Liz, where maybe we didn't
get a lot of immigrants from those countries and we
just sought them out to diversify our immigrant population. How stupid?
Who cares? How about this? Let's give people to come
to America who want to come here and contribute to
our society, who want to come here and pursue their
(15:59):
version of the American dream. Who gives a crap? Quite frankly,
where these people are from, if they want to come here,
they're welcome to come here and apply like everyone else does,
to become a United States citizen and to come into America.
But all the way back in twenty seventeen, President Trump
was calling this out and saying like, hey, I don't know,
I don't know if we want to continue this program.
(16:19):
I don't believe in this. This is a great example
of what happens when you don't bring the best and
the brightest into the United States of America. Instead you
go for some dei program that led itself down this
path where you have again this huge and no one
would say it. Oh, the Somali population. Guess what it was,
(16:40):
the Somali population there in Minnesota who perpetrated most of
this nine billion, probably plus dollars that were defrauded from
taxpayers here in America. That's a big problem. We have
to start talking about the root of these problems. Otherwise
we're just kind of skimming the surface on it.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Liz are and I think the problem is, as you
both hit on, people are genuinely afraid of this topic
because they they know that, you know, they sound like
common sense Republicans if they start telling the truth. And
you mentioned twenty seventeen. Of course President Trumphy first got
in was able to see just how bad this was.
But he talked about it in twenty fifteen when he
announced that's when they started calling him every name in
(17:20):
the book, when all he said was they're not sending
their best, and the reality is they're not. They're sending
those that want to take advantage of our country. There
are so many people that come here obviously wanting to
be proud Americans, wanting to work their butts off, wanting
to become you know, that American dream. My own two
parents came here the right way and fought tooth and
nail to give me the life that I have right now.
(17:40):
And they're embarrassed by those that come here the wrong way.
They're embarrassed by Democrats who cover for those people. They
want everyone to come here correctly and for nobody, let
alone foreigners to come and take advantage of our great system.
So I think the reality is Donald Trump said it
in twenty fifteen. The world turned on him then, but
every common sense Americans that hey, this is actually exactly
what we're worried about. This is what we need. And
(18:02):
how dare you Democrat or Republican want to put somebody
else before a legal American citizen or someone who came
here the right way to try and become one.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So again, thank.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
God for the President, but thank God also for just
common sense Americans who want people to come here, who
love when people come here the right way, but who
want people that want to be here and have no
interest in treating our system poorly, taking advantage of the
American people, wasting American tax dollars, or even worse, sending
them to terrorist groups.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, that's about That doesn't get much worse than that.
That's pretty bad when when you go in on that path,
just in the same area of the country. Remember the Milwaukee,
Wisconsin judge Hannah Dugan who back last spring was helping
an illegal immigrant. She basically was obstructing ice. And she's
a judge who you got video of her kind of
(18:51):
like helping this guy out in like escaping from being
arrested essentially, Alex by Ice, Well, she's been found guilty
of obstructing Immigration and Customs enforcement agents during that incident
where they were trying to serve a warrant at the courthouse.
But of course she attempted, like I said, to help
(19:11):
this illegal immigrant out. I mean, you're a judge, You're
supposed to apply the law. It's just it's outrageous. It's crazy.
She's found guilty by a jury and is now facing
up to five years in prison on account of felony obstruction.
And it was an only a six hour deliberation of
the jury, Alex, it took to figure this out that
(19:33):
they were gonna say, yeah, you're definitely guilty of this.
This this one to a lot of us when we
saw this, Alex was like, I mean, it was just crazy.
Where have we come in America? Where you, as a judge,
is a person who's supposed to enforce the laws, are
helping someone forward the law just just flagrantly doing it.
(19:54):
I mean, I guess good news is she's gonna be
you know, she's not guilty. She's gonna have to serve
some time for it.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
And hopefully lose her judge ship.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Right.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I don't know how you can go to prison or
go to jail and not and stay on the bench.
But we'll see what happens with her. I think there's
a couple things to note. You said a quick six
hour deliberation. I'm thinking, did it really take them six
hours to like?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
What come on?
Speaker 8 (20:19):
It's pretty obvious to what happened. So there's that.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
The other aspect of this is we're putting we're seeing
a judge put a criminal, illegal alien ahead of US citizens,
but also to that point, a domestic abuser charged with
strangulation suffocation of our fellow Americans.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
That's a problem, right.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
These are is a felony to come into this country illegally,
But when you also have someone who's violent, who has
a violent passed, why would anyone Democrat, Republican judge or
not want them to stay in this country or evade arrest.
It's sincerely teds to an extreme. And what we're seeing
here is it's great that this judge is being held
accountable because I hope the same is done with the
(21:04):
new Jersey lawmaker who rushed the Ice facility who was
facing charges I believe still pending. We've seen a thousand
plus percent attacks on our ice agents. It's time that
we see this type of sentence across all media platforms.
So people get the idea that you will be held
to account, no matter who you are, if you assault
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federal agents trying to do their job. And so I
think that's one of the most important takeaways from this. Also,
it should be a warning to other judges out there,
which Laura, your family is no you knows you're well
aware of these activist judges across the board, whether it's
personal or what they've done to the administration. Judge Boseburg
comes to mind with some of his orders, and so
(21:48):
I think this is great to see a judge held
to account. I'm curious if we're going to see lawmakers
in Congress do anything with some of these federal judges
that have been, you know, having a dose with their
own tds, whether it's in orders or in their written opinions.
I have a story coming out soon about Reagan appointees.
Some of the things they've put in opinions are eyebrow raising,
(22:09):
taking democratic talking points about the rule of law and
somehow that gets in a judicial opinion. I think it's
alarming and there needs to be some accountability.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Wow, well, we'll definitely look out for that, Alex for sure.
You know, in my mind was this judge and those
you know, those activist judges sort of like Alex is
talking about, Judge Murshan comes to mind as well. We
might people might know that name as well. In my mind,
they feel like they're some kind of freedom fighter, like
(22:39):
they're standing up like history is going to look back
on them as you know, like some person who helped
right the wrongs of our society right now, you know,
the freedom fighters, and when history right, there's gonna be
a whole movie on this judge. These people are delusional.
You're breaking the law. The law of the land is
that if you come here and you come here improperly,
(23:02):
you're it's illegal. You broke our law and there has
to be accountability for that. And guess who holds you
to account. Immigration and Customs Enforcement does it. It's so funny, though,
because I feel like, once there's some space from this,
and once these people actually get a handle on their
life again and they stop their tds because look, Donald
Trump is not going to be president forever. I know
(23:25):
that the Democrats are gonna hate to hear that. They
think he's gonna hold on. He's just gonna hold up
in the White House and just like they'll have to
drag him out by his fingernails. That's not the case
when he leaves. What is their excuse going to be then, Liz,
like they're going to look back on this one day
and say, God, we look like such utter fools. I mean,
(23:46):
at least I believe they will for sure.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
And by the way, it's not just Democrats. I'm also
sad that Donald Trump is not going to be president forever.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
A lot of us are. But no, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
I remember someone asking Major the first term, how I
feel about those that were like serving in the ADMIN
and coming out and speaking against Donald Trump and what
that must mean about what it takes to work for him,
And I said, has nothing to do with him. It
has to do with this environment that the media has
created where they will actually turn you into an overnight
celebrity if you turn on Donald Trump. Never before that
(24:17):
have we seen anyone be rewarded for turning against the
president of the United States or an American administration.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
The office of the.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
President was respected, whether you voted for them or not,
whether it was George Bush or Barack Obama or anybody else.
You were not put on MS now or CNN or
anything else. You didn't get you know, you didn't get
book deals right away, nothing happened. If you turned against
the president, you were kind of just laughed at. And
now it's the opposite. You become an overnight celebrity. You're
welcome into Hollywood circles, you're welcome on television, you get
(24:44):
a little bit of a following, and like you said,
in a few years when Trump is out of office,
you realize now that really mattered, and you actually a
kind of a traitor to your own country, and you
know yourself actually for going against your previous positions because
you want to have a tiny bit of fame. So
I think it's just an environment we've never seen before.
And it's said that people at the highest levels of
authority in our country, like judges, can kind of become,
(25:06):
you know, a part of it as well and fall
for it too, and hope to get a few Twitter
followers out of it or a few pats on the back.
But that's kind of what's happened, and it's taken over,
and I just hope most people realize again, it's not
about Donald Trump or US. It's about the country that
we're supposed to love, regardless of who's in that oval office.
And they all just look like really bad hypocrites. And
we're all going to remember this when we look back,
(25:27):
like you said, on this, when Donald Trump is no
longer the president of the United States.
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is Christmas. Yeah, even the judges are not immune to
Trump derangement syndrome. They even have suffered from it. It's
really crazy. But speaking of the Democrats, you know, oftentimes,
if you are like a sports team, for example, and
you horribly lose a game, you go back Alex and
you watch the footage from the game and you kind
(28:01):
of play by play dissect and do an autopsy of
sorts on that game, and you say, like, what went
wrong here? What plays could we have done better? Where
could we clean ourselves up? Where can we tighten it
up a little bit for the next game so that
maybe we don't go in and completely embarrass ourselves. So
the Democrats did this apparently for the twenty twenty four election.
(28:22):
Which man, did they need to do that? Because what
a complete and total disaster. And it's interesting because they
of course talked about it and they said, well, you know,
we're going to release this autopsy. We're going to figure
out what went wrong. Release the autopsy. And then Ken Martin,
(28:42):
the DNC chair, who previously said he would publicly release
the review of the twenty twenty four election, said in
a statement that the review was complete and the committee
was already putting our learnings into motion. They're saying now,
they're like, you know what, we actually don't need to
release that, and you know, we're not even going to
talk about it. We're just going to focus on winning. Well,
(29:04):
how do you do that, Alex If you can't even
talk about what went wrong? And I mean, maybe in
some cases, as Republicans we should celebrate this, but if
I were a Democrat voter, I'd be pretty perturbed by
the fact that the DNC is not going to talk
at all about what went wrong in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
Yes, to your point, I think Democratic voters have some
frustration about this. But even beyond that, I think it
could be other fellow Democratic candidates that are looking to
possibly run in twenty twenty eight. I saw some reporting
that the idea of not releasing this report suggests that
there's a favor to Kamala Harris and if she decides
(29:45):
to run again that this does her a favor. I'm questioning,
you know. I guess the reporter in me is wondering
if we're going to get a leak of this autopsy report,
because you would think, just like any healthy organization, there
would be some dissent about this decision, especially given the
fact that I think I read hundreds of Democratic voters
were interviewed for this across all fifty states. You would
(30:06):
think this would be something that they spent time and
money on if they would want to benefit from and
you utilize. But I guess that's what Democratic lawmakers do.
Democratic politicians, they like to waste the time and money,
so here we are again seeing them do it with
the autopsy report. To your point, I do think Republicans
benefit from this. It suggests to not only Democratic voters,
(30:27):
but independents Republicans that the Democratic Party is not willing
to address what went wrong. I think part of the
reason they're not wanting this out there is because it's
obvious common sense issues. Immigration, a lot of the LGBTQ issues,
you know, transgender athletes in girls' sports, and girls bathrooms
and schools, all of that. I think did not play
(30:47):
to their favor. And it's common sense, it's what Republicans
have been saying, and it would just you know, fuel
the right and let the American people know that Republicans.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Donald Trump was right.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, we can't have that, cannot possibly have something like that, Liz.
As part of the review, this committee interviewed people across
all fifty states about issues with both the presidential and
down ballot races in twenty twenty four and any previous
structural challenges that were in place. The results included lessons
(31:19):
about organizing, communications, fundraising, and spending. Though the report found
Democrats outspent Republicans at all levels. But we knew that
you and I were at the RNC. We knew that
they were spending boatloads of money. And now they're in
debt the DNC because of they're bad candidate and Kamala
Harris both of them, quite frankly, Joe and Kamala terrible candidates,
(31:44):
and them trying to sell something that the American people
were not interested in. They thought, let's just keep throwing
money at it and maybe it'll help, maybe it'll do something.
It's very clear if you go back and look that
the people I think of this country lost a lot
of faith in the entire process based on what happened
in twenty twenty four. They did not give their voters
(32:06):
a chance to vote for someone. They plugged in candidates,
including Joe Biden. There were people who wanted to challenge
Joe Biden. Don't forget RFK Junior, who's now our HHS secretary,
wanted to run for president as a Democrat. They wouldn't
allow him on any ballots. Dean Phillips wanted to run
for president as a Democrat. They wanted to primary Joe Biden.
(32:27):
Which if any of these people at the DNC had
any kind of sense, man, how much better off would
they have been doing that having Joe Biden at that
point early on kind of say like, all right, I'm
out of here. I'm gonna step aside. I'm gonna like
pass it on. Those are two strong candidates. Instead, they
let him stay in there. They pushed anybody who wanted
to challenge him out, and then in the eleventh hour,
(32:48):
when they started panicking because they knew Joe couldn't win,
they said, oh, what do we do? The only person
we have is Kamala Harris. There I saved everybody. The
post mortem on the twenty twenty four election where the
Democrats was.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You did know that that's literally what happened.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
And then, like you said, if through all the money
that they had at the problem, convinced that it would
win because they believe that they are not only right,
but they believe that they are better than the American people,
that they can spend enough money to trick them or
to convince them into voting the way that they believe
is right, because they actually look down on the American public.
We saw this happen in twenty sixteen. It wasn't even
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an idea in anyone's minds that President Trump could win.
It wasn't just because he was against Hillary Clinton. It
was because he was against the operation that she had built,
all the money that you had behind her, the staff
she had, which was like over five times bigger than
our staff, the experience that you had, and the idea
that no American was going to go out and think
for themselves when they were being told by every single writer,
(33:45):
every single you know, Hollywood star, every single advertisement that
they had, because again they had many more then we did,
that they had to vote for Hillary Clinton and that's
what was going to happen. I think on election day
the New York Times that there was a ninety eight
percent chance that she won, because they could not fathom
that the American public could think for themselves and would
disagree with the narrative that they had spent so much
time and money on building and shoving down all of
(34:06):
our throats, and they did not learn their lesson. I
don't think they did an autopsy in twenty sixteen either, obviously,
because they tried it again. Like you said, they didn't
care that Joe Biden was not the candidate anybody wanted.
They didn't care that Kamala Harris was not the replacement
candidate anybody wanted. They believed if you continued to spend money,
which again they spent more than we did, on telling
the American public Donald Trump was bad, that that was
(34:26):
just going to work. That they were going to pay Oprah,
they were going to pay different rappers to show up.
They were going to tell the people Donald Trump is
even more evil than he was before. That's why they
tried to throw him in prison and spend all of
your tax dollars on investigating him. He was going to
end up back at home and Kamala Harris would take
the rightful throne of the presidency. And it didn't work.
And I don't know if the autopsy is really necessary.
(34:47):
Like you said, we know exactly what happened, But I
hope they gained a little bit of respect for the
American public, that's it, and realize that any candidate moving forward,
right or left, actually has to win over the votes of.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
The American people.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
You can't just spend money anymore in higher the best consultant.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
It doesn't work.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
In the age of twenty twenty five, the age of
President Trump, or candidates have had to literally prove themselves
against every single obstacle that's come their way and set
a precedent that most people honestly are not going to
be able to follow.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, we deserve it as a country. That's
how the process is supposed to work. You know, we
the people are supposed to vote for who we want
to represent us on a whole different host of spaces
in Congress, in the White House, right all the way
top to bottom. But the Democrats have pretty clearly now
for three elections, just decided like, man, we don't really
(35:36):
care about that. They did it with Joe and Kamala.
Obviously we saw that I would say they did. It's
Bernie Sanders twice in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty.
So if you're a Democrat voter out there, you may
want to take a look at your party a little bit.
You may want to kind of really consider what am
I doing? Why am I voting for these people? They
don't really care what I want. Before we wrap up
(35:57):
here today, something that I think about a lot as
a mom. My kids are six and eight. They're too
young to have phones. They're not gonna have phones for
a long time, any sort of a device. In fact,
my husband and I took away any devices that they had.
They had an iPad that they would share in fifteen
minutes of time, you know, once a day if they
(36:17):
did all their homework and got everything done. Alex. We
took that away about three months ago. We're done with that.
We're just and now my kid's are reading a lot more.
It's actually sort of amazing. But a new Fox News
poll shows that apparently sixty four percent of parents would
be in favor of banning social media for children under
(36:39):
the age of sixteen. By the way, that's pretty staggering.
I'm gonna go ahead and plug myself into that category.
I think we've seen the horrors of social media. You know,
you keep seeing more and more of these kids who
are committing suicide because they are sort of like entrapped
in a situation where it's not even like people they
(37:02):
know most of the time. They somehow get down this
path of a person who says, hey, they're trying to
extort them. They're saying, well, you pay me a certain
amount of money, or I'm going to release these like
naked pictures of you that you sent because you thought
it was you know, somebody that I'm not. It's it's
really scary stuff. I think it just goes to add
(37:22):
to like depression and body image issues and anxiety, all
the things. I am in favor of this. What do
you think about this?
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Alex one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
I sixty four percent, and that pole is high, but
I kind of was surprised it wasn't even higher. I
would think this would be a seventy percent or higher issue.
Speaker 8 (37:40):
To be frank, I'm.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Somebody who doesn't like the government coming in and regulating anything,
but here I would totally support Kung I think it
should be a bipartisan issue that they should come in
and get some sort of age limits to social media.
For sure, even sixteen seems a little young, Like we know,
you know it's eighteen plus to be tried as an
adult because your brain's not quite developed, right. I think
that that's something that should be considered and looked at.
(38:02):
I think other countries have done this, if I recall correctly. Yes,
And you know, I think it's so important. I have
a four year old daughter, she just turned forced. I
have a little bit of time before she's really into
any sort of electronics. But I think it's terrifying to
your point talking about the depression and the anxiety, the bulling,
the cyberbulling that happens these days. You know, when I
(38:24):
was little, there was no internet, right, so nothing lasted forever.
But here you have something that could last forever haunt
these little kids who are not emotionally developed to handle that.
One more thing I think next month is there's a
trial that's actually going to be taking place involving some
of these social media companies that have been sued by
school districts, and they're talking about one of these social
(38:46):
media companies to have some sort of funding for counseling
in schools, that sort of thing, fixing some age problems
with their sites. And that's when I'm watching I think
that there's some real teeth there that these school districts
they can see it real and in person, live what's
happening in classrooms with friends and classmates because of social media.
(39:07):
So yes, I am one of the sixty four percent
that would definitely support increasing an age to access on
social media, whether no matter what the platform is. Snatchat Facebook, Instagram,
all of it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just it's all. It's all bad, Liz, It's all
just the brain is developing. I remember being back in
like high school and the tiniest thing was like the
biggest deal.
Speaker 8 (39:30):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
And you get a little bit older and you get
a little life experience and you're like, oh, well that
doesn't really matter. But I can still tell you and
Liz you probably know this too, Alex you probably as well.
You know, once you get the first like nasty article
written about you, it can be it can be very
jarring and now, my god, like it's like water off
a duck's back, like we're so used to it in
my family, we don't even bad an eyelash at it.
(39:52):
But it is tough. It's still tough for adults to
deal with this stuff, let alone kids. By the way, Alex,
you said you thought it should be a seventy percent
or more issue. I'll tell you what actually is is
banning cell phones in K through twelve classrooms. Sixty nine
percent of people were in favor of that. I think
that this is to me, this is exactly where we
(40:14):
need to be going. I mean, I hate to Alex's point,
I hate Liz the idea of adding a government, you know,
big brother type thing to any space. I want freedom
for all, et cetera. This is like a little bit
like alcohol and cigarettes. To me, it is very dangerous.
It's very detrimental to health and development of our kids.
(40:35):
And I, as a parent, would love because you know,
the problem is going to be if I tell my kids, well,
you can't have this until you're in eighth grade or older,
which is what a lot of these schools are trying
to advocate for right now social media, at least in phones.
Then what happens when their friend who is you know,
ten years old, already has a phone and is already
(40:56):
on social media. It's hard to say to your kid, well,
you can't do it because you're alienating them from so
much of what's going on out there. So let's just
do a blanket. I'm great with that. What do you think, Liz.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
No, I completely agree.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
I think most common sense people agree, even those like
us who really really hate government overreach. I still think,
much like the abortion issue, I think the government has
a responsibility of protecting the most vulnerable and innocent among us.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Those are miners, those are kids.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
A lot of kids, by the way, don't have parents
to make these decisions for them. And I don't think
anyone should have to be harmed by social media or
anything else because they didn't have the privilege of having
two parents like many of us did to protect them.
I think we don't even know how bad social media is.
We don't have enough time and research done yet to
see the actual negative effects it will have on the
next generation. I am terrified to find out. I'm so
(41:43):
terrified looking at my niece's phones and seeing the pictures
that they post and what they see, and knowing that
anyone can contact them at any point from anywhere in
the world. I think this is a no brainer. I
don't know why it's less than seventy percent. I think
most people, if you ask them, would say anyone under
eighteen should be protected from the most dangerous that's around.
The Internet is definitely one of those threats. And I
think all of our kids would do a lot better
(42:05):
moving forward if we got rid of phones and tablets
and Facebook and Instagram and everything else and just let
kids be kids for the first time in a while.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Man, what a novel idea, Liz, Let's let kids be kids.
It's really true that whenever you take this stuff away,
they thrive. I've seen it with my own two kids,
and yeah, they give you a little pushback at first,
and then you're just like, well, no, that's it. It's done.
You're the parent, you lay down the law, you tell
them what's going to happen, and then they have no alternative,
(42:33):
and they go outside and they make up games together
and they figure it out and it's a beautiful thing
to see. Liz and Alex want to just say thank
you very much for joining us today, wishing everyone including you,
to a very merry Christmas out there, and until next time,
make sure you like, subscribe, Share, and follow. We'll see
you back here for more of the right view and
(42:57):
mom back down, baby babe.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
There ain't no eade. We are
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