September 2, 2025 • 48 mins
What if the season you’re in right now is the exact doorway to your next chapter?
In this powerful episode of the Rise2Shine Podcast, I sit down with Lisa Blaisdell, a wellness entrepreneur and midlife woman who has navigated reinvention, resilience, and redefining what it means to truly shine. Lisa shares her raw and real journey of finding purpose beyond the roles she once identified with, and how she discovered confidence, joy, and clarity in a season many women feel lost.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re stuck in midlife, questioning your self-worth, or wondering if there’s more waiting for you, this conversation is for you. Lisa’s story is a living reminder that you can rise stronger, rediscover your spark, and step boldly into the encore chapter of your life.
✔️ How breakdowns often hold the hidden blueprint for breakthroughs
✔️ Why midlife can be the most empowering season for identity-level transformation
✔️ Simple, soul-led shifts Lisa made to reignite her confidence and energy
This episode is more than inspiration, it’s an activation. Listen in and remember: your next chapter isn’t behind you, it’s waiting for you to claim it.
✨ Hit subscribe and join me inside this conversation - you don’t want to miss the wisdom, encouragement, and empowerment waiting for you!
More About Lisa
Lisa Blaisdell is a multi–six figure social entrepreneur who empowers midlife women to choose themselves and create their best second chapter. After building a multi–million dollar business in traditional network marketing, she pivoted in 2020 to an online social retail model, where she grew her business by 600% in just 13 months and helped dozens of women achieve four- and five-figure incomes for the first time.
Her most personal pivot came in 2021, when she made the difficult decision to leave her long-term marriage. That experience ignited her mission to help women live in alignment, rebuild self-worth, and step into their full potential through financial and personal empowerment. Since early 2024, Lisa has coached more than 150 women, inspiring thousands more through her daily messages on TikTok.
She lives in Southern California, where her two grown daughters and young grandson are her greatest joy and motivation.
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(00:00):
Welcome to the Rise to Shine Podcast with Noel Custis where
we ignite the spark to discover your favorite self.
It is time to get real, ladies. Hey friend, welcome back to the
Rise to Shine podcast. I'm your host, Noel Custis, and
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I am so excited for today's episode because we are going
deep into what it means to choose yourself in midlife and
build A next chapter that feels both powerful and peaceful.
My guest today is my friend and fellow Next chapter guide Lisa
Blaisdell and we actually go wayback to our early days in
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entrepreneurship and it has beensuch a gift to witness her
evolution. Lisa is a multi 6 figure social
entrepreneur who empowers midlife women to reclaim their
self worth both emotionally, financially and spiritually.
So super fun work here. And after building this multi
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$1,000,000 business in network marketing, she actually made a
really bold pivot that led to 600% growth.
Her real transformation actuallycame when she left a long term
marriage and stepped into full alignment.
So now, like me, she's mentoringwomen through the tender and
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courageous work of reinvention. So, Lisa, I am so glad you were
here. Noel, thank you so much for
having me. We do go way back and I feel
like I'm I'm just chatting with a dear old friend and I just so
admire and commend the work thatyou're doing for women.
And it's just so, so important and you are such a bright light
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and the way that you are showingup and serving midlife women.
I'm just really in awe of what you've created.
And I'm just so happy to have this conversation and hopefully
serve some of your amazing listeners that are out there
today. Well, the feelings are mutual
and I truly, I have been watching you.
I got to kind of go through thistransition with you online
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through social media. And then when we reconnected, it
was so much fun. And you have truly inspired me.
I love the way that you show up for women.
I love that you are, you know, Iknow authenticity is a word
that's kind of been like put outthere a ton lately.
And people are like, what does that actually mean?
But I can tell you that and my audience here that you, Lisa,
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honestly just always show up so authentically and always just
you, whether it's a walk on the beach or coming in and, you
know, really sharing your heart,whatever that looks like.
I just am always so inspired by that and I.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
I mean, it's the ultimate compliment to, you know, have
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someone say you you show up exactly as you are.
And that's how that's what I want for all women is just, you
know, unapologetically exactly as they are.
Love it, love it. Well, I cannot wait for this
conversation and I would just love.
I know I did an introduction on kind of your summary of what is
happening in life. But for those of you that are
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just meeting, for those people that are just meeting you, can
you just share a little background and how this next
chapter of your work was born, how you ended up here today?
Yes, no, I'm happy to. So I have had several businesses
in the health and Wellness industry.
I'm still in that industry and have very much always wanted to
help women and families, you know, really with their with
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their health and empower women to, you know, create extra
income for their families if that's something that they want
to do. But I went through a lot of
transitions starting in 2020, as, you know, the world changed,
You know, it really gave us all an opportunity to, you know,
really reevaluate. Are we happy doing this?
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And I had been with one company for 17 years, so almost 2
decades. I really raised my family, you
know, as I built this business and it, it meant a lot to our
family and it was an amazing source of income for me and
allowed me to stay home with my daughters and still have a, a
really great income. But I was stuck and I was
stagnant and I wasn't serving women at the capacity that I
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wanted to. And when a new opportunity came
in to help, you know, for me to do something a little bit
different, similar, similar industry, but but a different
company, it was a very hard decision for me to make.
But I did change companies and rebuilt an entirely new business
from scratch, started over from scratch, resigned.
You know, my company didn't takeanything with me.
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And that experience taught me a lot.
And it taught me that when we get out of our comfort zones and
I, I teach this a lot, but when we take these brave leaps of
faith and we just walk into the unknown and we just trust that
it's all going to be OK, it, it can be even more incredible than
what you even imagined it would be.
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And, and it was an incredible ride.
And it gave me the courage to really start to admit that there
were other parts of my life thatI was not happy in.
And I spent, like many women, you know, busy raising my
family, busy with my career, busy with friends and, and in a
community, we had a huge networkof friends and community.
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And when that started to quiet down, you know, when my kids
were getting older, my youngest went back to college after
COVID, she was able to move back.
And I was just kind of in the weeds of of, you know, building
this business again and having alot of fun.
It really like showed me that I was not happy in my marriage and
that, you know, I was going to have to do something about it.
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This is very common for women ofour age.
And, you know, there's a lot of terms around this.
And I think when our lives just,you know, kind of get quieter, I
was able to have that honest conversation with myself first,
which is what I encourage women to do.
And I knew that something was going to have to change.
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And yet it was incredibly hard and incredibly painful.
I was married to a good guy, andhe is a good human.
He's a good dad and a good provider.
And we had a lot of really greatyears, but we were not meant to
go the distance. And, you know, we had both, you
know, really kind of changed into different people.
And we both wanted different things.
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And yet, and I, I know this fromthe work I do, you know, most
men are willing to just stay in what's familiar.
And I hate to categorize this, but I've coached a lot of women,
and nothing was going to change unless I made the change.
You know, it was a very, very difficult decision for me to
come to. And even when we initially
separated, it was very hard for me to, you know, ultimately pull
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the trigger because I felt so many things.
I felt guilt. I felt shame.
I felt like, you know, how can Ido this to my family, to our
extended family? We had a beautiful life.
I knew that was going to change and it just, you know, there was
a lot of fear and, you know, it's very normal and it's very
common and it's what keeps womenstuck in what they're not happy
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with. And so when I really, you know,
got on the other side and I, I did make that change and, you
know, really just started to live my new chapter.
A lot of women were coming to me.
You know, they knew my story, they knew our family, they knew
that my now ex-husband and I were amicable and that we were
able to navigate this. You know, after the initial
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bumps, which it is bumpy, there's no question about it
that we were able to come to a place where we could be friends
and still celebrate, you know, our grown daughters together and
just have a very healthy relationship.
People wanted to know what I wasdoing.
And so I just, it really just happened organically and I
started to share my story on social media and you know, it,
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it has just really evolved and snowballed from there.
So it really came from my, my own story and me really wanting
to help empower so many women who feel like they just can't do
this because, you know, they fear the unknown, they fear what
other people will think, you know, they, they really get
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stuck in their own head. And obviously, you know, it, it
takes two people to make a relationship and it takes two
people to end a relationship. And sometimes they're met with
incredible resistance. And that's, you know, just a
very hard path to go down. So that's, that's really how my,
my coaching has unfolded. And you know, I, I am in the
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weeds with women as they navigate this change.
I'm really helping them with their emotions and really
helping them feel, you know, validated.
Yes, it's OK to be very sad. And, you know, there's a lot of
confusion initially and how they're feeling because it's
like, well, if I'm sad about this, like, why am I doing it?
It I shouldn't be doing it. So I really help them
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understand, you know, kind of why they're feeling this way.
And I just continue to paint a vision for them that.
And because I believe this with all my heart, that if you do
this with love and compassion and you get the support that you
need and, you know, allow the kids to process their emotions
and offer support to them, whichI think is so important, then
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everyone is going to be OK. And, you know, yes, it's a hard
thing. Yes, it's, you know, a lot of
change. But, you know, life is hard.
And, you know, life can be very hard.
And there's always going to be things in life that are hard.
And, you know, for me, going through this and landing on the
other side has been such a greatlesson for my daughters to see
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their mother do something very difficult and make this brave
change. You know, they were the only
ones that knew how unhappy theirfather and I were.
We hid it from the world. And as as most families do you,
you hide, you know, no one is showing on social media and all
the stuff right behind the scenes.
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And, you know, they're proud of their parents and they're proud
that they, you know, were able to navigate this and that we can
still come together and support one another and be happy for
each other in this new phase of life.
And, you know, they had to work through their own stuff and
continue to, but they have a sense of resiliency about them
that, you know, I'm glad becauselife can be challenging.
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And I want my girls to be strongand to feel like they can get
through anything right. Oh, there's a lot of lessons in
going to chapters. So much and I, you know, gosh,
so, so many things that I know that we are going to talk about
and get into here because one ofthe first things that you said
that I just thought is so important, especially when we
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get into the age where our kids are starting to grow up and
maybe life is starting to change, like our roles as moms
are starting to change. We went through the pandemic at
that same exact time, which thatit was like the whole world was
changing all at once. One of the things you said that
I felt like is so prevalent for women is when things start to
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change, things also start to quiet.
And. You are not in this frantic,
busy mode anymore, like taking the kids here and doing this and
doing that. And then all of a sudden you're
spending a little bit more time with yourself.
And all of a sudden, things thatmaybe you had put on the back
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burner or didn't want to deal with or were in denial of start
to come to the surface. And, you know, hence this is
when women think that they're like starting to go through this
midlife crisis. And we always talk about, you
know, here that it's not a crisis.
It really isn't. It really is a becoming.
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It is a new chapter that you're going to be stepping into.
And it can be beautiful. And I feel like, you know, one
of the things that happens though, in this time is that
women fear choosing themselves. And you and I were talking about
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this, and I know you coach around this as well and talk
about this, that really choosingyourself isn't selfish.
It's actually sacred and it is abenefit to everyone.
So what does that look like, youknow, in as you're talking to
your clients? What does that look like in the
day-to-day for women in midlife to be able to choose themselves?
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Well, to choose themselves, it'susually, you know, the kind of
work that I'm doing as a divorcecoach, it's helping these women
get honest with the fact that the relationship has run its
course or, you know, they're notwith the right partner for them
anymore. And that ending this, you know,
marriage relationship is going to be hard, but that in the end,
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you know, you know, kids seeing their mom happier, kids seeing
their dads, you know, happier eventually, you know, and kids
seeing that, you know, parents have feelings too.
You know, we, we are humans at the end of the day, and we're
doing the best job that we can. You know, we're, we're
navigating a lot and that we're doing everything that we can
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with love, but that staying in something that is, you know,
really not serving you is not making you happy.
You know, in some cases is really unhealthy for a woman.
It's, it's no way to live for you.
And as a mother, it's no way forme to role model for my kids.
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You know, what is acceptable. And, you know, I, I just believe
very strongly that kids are watching us, you know,
especially young adult kids, more than listening to what we
say, they're watching how we live our lives and how we do
things. And, you know, doing really
difficult things in life takes alot of courage.
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And, you know, for my clients, they're usually very surprised
that their kids are, yes, you know, initially selfishly, you
know, sad that something is ending.
But also they're usually incredibly proud of their moms.
And a lot of kids have been waiting, needing to see their
their parents make this change because they know that they're
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living in something that's really unhealthy, then that's
unhealthy and unhappy. And they're actually very, you
know, supportive of their parents and just, you know, and,
and also, you know, I'm reminding my clients every day
that young adults are very self absorbed in their own life and
they're kind of worried about what's going on for them.
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And, you know, I mean, I don't mean to downplay it, but divorce
is common. And it really, it's not like
it's some rare thing. And in the big scheme of life of
what can happen to kids, yes, it's hard and yes, some divorces
are really ugly and horrible. And it's a shame.
And I, I try to do my part to bea part of a process that's very
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different than that. Nobody wins when it's ugly and,
and people are hurting one another intentionally.
I just can't understand that at all.
But big scheme of life, so many things can happen to kids.
And you know, as long as everyone is healthy and taking
care of themselves and leading with love, then this, this
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process does not have to be horrible.
I love that. I love that because you know,
you're right there. Especially as our, as our kids
are getting older, they are so they are so into it.
It kind of goes back to, you know, that place of when they
were little and it was all aboutthem and kind of go through a
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point where they're, you know, doing other things.
And then then it comes to them growing up again.
And you know, even that early adulthood where it's like, holy
cow, I'm adulting and this is a whole new life.
So they are so into their own stuff.
But one thing I can absolutely just 100% agree with you is that
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our kids are watching. Yeah.
And one of the things that they are doing for us is they are
rooting for us. They are.
And they want us to be happy andthey know when we have been, you
know, I mean, we think we're hiding things well with them,
right when they're in in our home, but we're not.
They feel the energy. They they know that there are
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things that can be really tough.Yes they do.
And I, I think resilience is, you know, so such a, you know,
such an important word when we're talking about all of this,
because not only are we more resilient that we realize, but
our kids are resilient. Yes, they are they and.
I yeah, I just, I love how you have always come at it with such
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honesty and integrity with your kids to where you know they can
maintain relationships with boththeir mom and dad.
You know, yeah, yeah, you have. Always, you know, put that out
there and of course we know every situation is very
different and you know, all of that is different for each woman
woman. But I do believe that kids, you
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know, are able to have those harder conversations and we can
go there in which they are going.
We want you to be happy. We want you to be happy.
I I watched my mom go through a divorce and and selfishly when I
was little. Now this was with my stepdad.
My father passed away when I wasreally young, so this was with
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my step dad, which funny story, they actually got divorced after
five years. My step dad and my mom, I was
actually, I mean, this is terrible to say, but it was very
dysfunctional when they got together at that time.
I was actually grateful because I was just like, Oh my gosh,
this is such a disaster. And.
The irony was is that 20 years later they got remarried and
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they reconducted. Funny.
So here I was in a place of like, OK, this is all over.
And then I, as an adult, had to go, oh whoa, this is all coming
back into my life. That is so wild.
Yeah, it's a wild story, Lisa, and I'll have to share that with
you sometime. It was crazy but it went back to
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that place of even though I was confused and frustrated and
maybe even a little hurt when they got back together.
Mind you, I was in my 30s at this point.
At. The same time, I was still
rooting for my mom and her happiness because.
I you. Know what?
I don't want her to be alone forever.
I want her to be happy. I want her to find that.
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So yeah, I just, I, I do really believe we start to mature as
children. Too.
They do. They do, They do.
And I think that's so important for moms to hear because so much
of what we do as moms is we are people pleasers and we want to
please everybody else around us and make sure everybody else is
OK and we are not alive at times, Right.
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So in the work that you're doing, what are some of the
common patterns? Cuz you know, sometimes it's
maybe it's a relationship or a divorce, but there's also women
considering other big life shifts.
Maybe in this quiet time, you know, they are going, OK, my
relationship's good, but my workis not and I might change that.
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So what are some of the common patterns or pain points that you
see in women that are considering a big life shift?
Well, a lot of the patterns thatI deal with are just what you
brought a lot of people pleasingand, you know, living into a
role that they have always had. And like, even when I left my
first company, it was very upsetting for a lot of people in
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my life. Like, even though like they were
just rooting me on from the sidelines.
It's how they knew me. So you've been doing something
for a long time if people know you in their certain role and
any change that they are thinking about making is going
to make the other people in their life uncomfortable.
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And so I really try to help encourage that woman that they
will let them deal with their discomfort.
They'll work through it. You know, they're all big people
too. But no one should be living
their life and doing, you know, whether it's being in a
relationship or having a career or living in a certain
community. No one should be staying in any
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part of their life because they're worried about how other
people are going to do or, or how they're going to feel if
they change. Yeah.
So that's a big thing that I help women with because we are
so conditioned to be the good girl to, you know, go to school,
get the job, get the career, getmarried, have the kids.
Like we're so conditioned to do things a certain way that when
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we do get to midlife and things start to unfold and new
opportunities come up or whatever it is, we realize that
we want to make a change. It's very, very hard because
we've been living our life as the good girl is making sure
that everyone else is happy withour choices.
And, you know, these two big changes that I made kind of
back-to-back really allowed me to see that not everybody's
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gonna support you initially and not everybody's gonna come with
you. And that's a, a, a big theme
that I try to help women understand and help them just
come to some peace that not everyone's going to go with you
through every season of your life.
And that is OK. I mean, it really, really is OK.
I mean, obviously some will and,and it, you know, some people
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think, oh, my family's always going to be with me.
Well, maybe not. If you're part of a toxic family
and you know they're not supporting you and they're not,
you know, by your side through things, then it's OK to let
negative people go no matter whothey are.
And just to be OK with the decisions that they're making.
And, you know, a lot of what I do know well is really helping
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women learn to trust themselves again.
So so key. Because they've lost jobs.
Look. Like, so when you're when you're
really, you know, diving into that work and learning how to
trust themselves again, what? So what does that work look like
in your world? Well, I the first thing that
women can do when they want to start to learn from me as I have
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a free journal. I mean, I've had it for like a
year and a half and over 4000 women have downloaded it and
they love it. And you know, you'll hear
business coaches say like, oh, you need a new free tool or
whatever. And I'm like, women love this
tool. So I'm not changing it.
And then as I'm working with someone one-on-one or even in my
groups, I, I run a Group 3 * a year, I want them to spend time
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being quiet and just journaling and listening to themselves.
Like, don't even listen to me. I mean, like listen to me.
But really the most important voice that you need to listen to
is yourself because, you know, getting in touch with your
intuition again, spending time and quiet, spending time in
nature, you know, learning, you know, you don't have to meditate
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full on. But just even like taking a few
moments before you start your day and just really getting
still and just breathing and just really starting to get in
touch with how you want to feel.And I, I just think that that's
such an important muscle to go back and rebuild, especially if
you've been living your life, you know, just sort of tuning
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out your own inner voice and just listening to everyone else
and, and putting everyone else'sneeds before you.
Well, I love that because because it is, it's like as you
are, you know, I mean, I know when I was back in 2020 when I
was starting to listen to that inner voice and kind of going
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through that and knowing I needed to make a change, I was
also at this crossroads of like,but how do I do that?
How do I do that? And then of course, you know,
and work through all of my stuff.
And I journaling was a huge component of that.
And just taking that quiet time to be able to really get back in
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touch with our own identity, 'cause I was like, my whole
identity had become the role of a teacher.
And I was, how do I leave that? How, how do I leave?
You know, prior to that, I had gone through a divorce after 19
years and same thing. I was like, how is my identity
not being Mrs. Johnston? What does that look like?
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And there came like the shame and this guilt.
And until I started to do some of that work, you know, and, and
I did not know what, that there were coaches out there that were
helping people do this. I was like, Oh my gosh, that
could have really probably helped a ton right through some
of these things that I, I was struggling with.
I went, you know, to counseling and those kinds of things.
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But there's something beautiful about working with a coach or a
mentor that has that can walk alongside of you.
They're they're not the guru, they're the guide.
And. Many times, you know, being that
you specialize, I mean, you really focus on more of the
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divorce and you know, different things like that because you've
walked those in those shoes. You have been there.
I think that that is something that just feels so good as a
woman when you're like, you get me because I feel like they're
my friends. Don't get me.
My family doesn't get me, but I have one that gets me and to be
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in these communities that you can to offer, you know, a group
type of thing, you know, three times a year.
And I just those, those saved melater on.
Of course I did then, but years later it's it definitely saved
me and that's why I became so passionate to do this work as
well. Absolutely.
I mean, women just don't. They want to know that they're
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not alone. You know, they want to be around
other women who are changing their life, who are going
through all the same things. And, you know, even though every
situation is different, obviously the themes are the
same. And I just think more than ever,
we just, you know, building community is something that I've
always done and what I'd love todo.
And, you know, really just helping women feel like they're
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not alone. And if they have other women
that know how it feels to go through so much change and to
experience grief and, and to rebuild and, and to do it.
So yeah, it's it's all such important work and the other big
thing that I do that I really try to help women re establish
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is a sense of self love and selfand really start to, you know,
love themselves again, maybe forthe first time.
Does it really can take a toll on you when you go through such
a, a devastating change in your life and to just really start to
lean on yourself because so manywomen are afraid, you know,
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they're afraid to end their marriage because they're afraid
to be on their own. And I really encourage them to
use this as an opportunity to get to know yourself and, you
know, fall back in love with yourself and build that inner
strength again because so many amazing things can happen when
you start to just lean into yourself.
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Yeah, so good. And one of the other things that
I really appreciate about your work is financial empowerment.
And because that was something that was really scary for me as
I was going through my divorce was how do I do this alone?
How, how do I, how do I move forward?
So, you know, I just think that that's such a powerful part of
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your work. What is that something that you
really bring into the table in your coaching?
I mean, I know that I I have seen that, but.
I mean I, so I, I live, you know, first of all, I, I try and
lead by example. So, you know, I am financially
still self-sufficient on my own.And you know, I, I really try to
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encourage women that whatever it, wherever they're at, that
they have options to go out and create something for themselves.
And I don't care how old you are, I don't care what your
skill set is. You know, if you're willing to
learn some new skills, if you'rewilling to try some new things,
you can go out and create something for yourself.
You can get part time work, you can get full time work.
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You can start a business, you know, online, offline.
There's a million things that women can do.
And I mean, I'm still, you know,building my coaching business
and building another health and Wellness business at the same
time. And I also have in my group, I
bring in a woman who's incredible, She is a financial
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expert for, with navigating divorce and she's been super
helpful for the women in my group because so many women are
so used to just like sacrificingthemselves and sacrificing their
needs and saying, you know, I just want to get out.
I mean, he can have everything. Like I don't care.
And I just, I really am like, no, you need to care.
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Like you need to care. And I know you just want this to
end and I know you want this to be easy and you feel like you're
hurting everyone so you don't want to ask for money.
But I just, I cannot understate enough to women how important it
is that they get their fair share.
I mean, I'm not encouraging women to take anyone to the
cleaners, but so many, I mean, statistically women do worse off
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financially. It's just a fact.
Like women do not land on their feet in the same way that men
do. I mean, men don't do as well
emotionally. Women do better emotionally,
they're happier, but women do poorer financially.
And so I love to have this womancome in and just really educate
women about the process. And, you know, I'm always
reminding people that you have rights and no one has a right
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to. I mean, listen, there's horror
stories everywhere. And I also just really encourage
women to tune out the noise. Like, you know, your neighbor's
divorce, your cousin's divorce it, you know, if it was a
horrible thing, I'm sorry for them, but that does not mean
that yours is going to be, you know, and, and I really just
encourage them to tune out the noise and to know what they want
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and to be, you know, do not short change yourself and to ask
for what you deserve. You know, whether you've been a
stay at home mom and that was a choice that you made as a
couple, or if you're a teacher and he's a lawyer and, you know,
like, it's very obvious, like who's making more money like
you, you need to ask for a settlement that's going to be
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fair to you so that you're not like, you know, feeling
destitute in your 50s. It should not be that way.
Right. No, absolutely.
I love that and it is so, so important.
And just a question for you as far as women who might be out
there that are just like kind ofin that space of quietly
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wondering like should I stay, should I leave?
What should I do? What are some, what are some,
maybe you know, reflective questions or some inner check
insurance that they could do to kind of help get them really to
a place that they're able to start making or just maybe just
start having more clarity around?
That right, right. Well, I really would encourage
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them. I mean, they can get my journal,
it's free, but just to really start to journal around, you
know, when it gets quiet and you're by yourself, how do you
feel like, how do you feel? I mean, do you feel at peace?
Do you feel happy? Do you feel, you know, like
you're free, you know, and, and I think where women get caught
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up is they don't have the time and the space to just really pay
attention to how they're feelingand not to look for evidence day
in and day out. Because maybe some days you're
working really well, like together collaboratively with
your partner. Maybe some days you know it,
it's a tougher day, but to try not to be on that roller coaster
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of looking for the evidence day in and day out, but to really
focus more on how you feel day in and day out.
I love that. That is such a great point
because gosh, how many of us aredoing that like and making
ourselves crazy that we're just looking for the evidence we're
instead of like going deeper within.
Because when you really go deeper within, the answers are
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all there. You have to be brave enough to
do that. Get quiet.
Isn't that the truth Oh my gosh well, I know that you are
holding so much space for so many women.
How do you in your daily life now the Lisa, now how do you
stay grounded and aligned while you're still showing up at such
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a high level for other women? Well, I do take care of myself.
I mean, I, you know, I, I reallylisten to myself and know like
when I need to, you know, take some time.
I'm, I practice what I preach. I journal every morning.
I have a really good morning routine that is really important
to me. I spend a lot of time outside in
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nature. You know, I live close to the
beach and, you know, I really just stay very grounded in the
fact that none of us are here for a very long time and that
things like the ocean and the trees and all these things are
going to be here long after I'm gone.
And I have really just leaned into that part of my life and
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just it really helps ground me. And, you know, I do have an
amazing partner who's just incredibly supportive and just a
real amazing listener. And, you know, and we, we have
found, you know, things that really bring us joy and just
going for lots of walks and, youknow, enjoying my life in
general. And just, you know, and as
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empathetic as I am, I am boundaried myself and how, you
know, just again, practicing what I preach and staying
boundaried. And, you know, I, I know that
these women are going to, are going to get through this hard
time. I, I know that they are.
And I know that it isn't easy and that they have a lot of
really rough days. But I do have the perspective
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of, you know, the rearview mirror to, to and in my own life
and how I'm doing OK, that even in the toughest circumstances,
you know, we are going to be OK.Like no matter what it is, and I
do truly believe that and I just, I live my life that way.
And it's funny what you think about really does manifest and
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you know the I believe that everything is going to work out
the more it works out. Yeah, well, Speaking of which, I
mean, you know, really, it's like I think about it.
And for you specifically, I knowyou are a new grandma, which is
hard to believe. I look at you.
Oh my gosh. How are you a grandma?
I. Know it's it's that legacy,
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right. And so how, how has becoming, I
think you go by, you go by. Do you go by I'm Grammy?
I I it's Grammy. Very old.
Fashioned. Yes.
I love it, I think. Fancy.
Grammy And so how? How has that even shifted your
perspective on legacy? It's amazing.
I mean, it's just like the greatest joy I could have ever
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imagined. And listen, this is again, I'm
very transparent. This was not anything that my
daughter was planning on at thistime.
She always wanted to be a mom, but it took them both by
surprise. And it's okay.
And he's just such a joy. And because of, you know, the
fact that I'm an entrepreneur and I have, you know, the
ability to carve out my own schedule, I'm able to be with
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him. I go up every Wednesday and I
spend the day with them and, andgive my daughter a break.
She's a stay at home mom currently.
And, you know, it's just allowedme to lean into truly being
present because when we're young, you know, when we're
raising these kids, we're just like so much, you know, it's all
new and overwhelming. And we're thinking about
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doctor's appointments and makingsure that they're eating their
broccoli and like all the stuff,you know, And I care about those
things for him too. But I truly just show up and I
have the maturity and the discipline and the wisdom just
to say I am tuning out the world.
It will all be there when I go home.
And I'm just going to stay present for him and I, I, I just
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know him. It's such a little.
He'll be two next week. It's amazing.
I know it's second. I know it goes super fast.
And I just yes. And I love knowing that he's
going to know me and have a relationship with me.
And he's not going to know that his mom's parents, you know what
I mean? Like he doesn't, he won't ever
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know that my daughter's father and I were were married for such
a long time. He's going to know, you know,
Grammy and Danny at the beach and grandpa and Mimi in Idaho in
their world. And like he's going to get this
big expanded family that is so awesome and beautiful and
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imperfect, you know? And I'm, I'm actually really
proud of that because life is imperfect.
And it doesn't matter to him because he's just loved by all
these people. And, you know, I was raised
inside of a blended family and Iknow the challenges of that.
And I also know the beauty of that.
And so I just think he's going to get the best of all of us.
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And so it's it's very cool. And I'm I'm young, even though
I'm young to be a grandma, like I'm young to be a grandma.
So it's pretty some because I'm going to be there for all all of
the things. So fun, so fun.
Love that. I love that so, so good.
And it's just, you know, if anything, like I just feel like
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this just gives women such hope that, you know, you may be, you
may be a listener out there that's struggling and you might
be in the thick of it. And just to know, like hearing
you just gives hope to women that it's like you don't have to
stay stuck. We have choices, maybe a
midlife, but ladies, trust me when we tell you that it is not
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a midlife crisis. And there is so much joy on the
other side in your next chapter and whatever that looks like,
whether it be, you know, starting a new relationship,
ending a relationship, going into a new, you know, space for
your work. Or maybe it's just simply like,
my life is really good, but I amstruggling just with my own self
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stuff, right? These are the things that Lisa
and I love to work with women on.
And Lisa, I would love to ask you, you know, you know, and I
know we'll have it all in our show notes, all in the links,
but what are what some current things that are lighting you up
in work and any of your offers or anything that's going on that
you would love to share with ouraudience?
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Oh, you're so sweet. Well, I am getting ready to
launch the fall session of my group coaching program.
And that's when we gather as a small group.
There's only like 10, maybe 12 women if it if like they begged
me to get in, but where we're really navigating a lot of the
things that women are going through if they're contemplating
ending their marriage. And it's for women who are, you
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know, what I call circling the drain and, and can't really
figure out what the right step is to do.
And it's for women who are in the messy middle and they're
struggling with, you know, all of the confusion and all the
emotions and things like that. It's a seven week program.
It's really designed to help women feel connected, get more
clarity and just really build some courage to to navigate this
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process. So that will be.
They can get on the wait list ifthey'd like to just know more
about it. And I'll start to send out
emails at the end of the month and just my free journal if they
just want to start to have the honest conversation with
themselves. I mean, you know, I think
sometimes women feel like journaling is like this big
project that they have to carve out the space for.
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And it's really not like just like sit down and just be
relaxed about it. And I mean, I started journaling
so many years. I mean, I journaled since I was
a little girl, but you know, I just picked it back up as an, an
adult in a form of gratitude. Like I just started a gratitude
journal. And even if you just start with
that, like just journaling 3 to 5 things every day that you're
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grateful for, if you do that consistently, your life is going
to be very different in a year. And I know it seems like it's so
simple and so easy, but sometimes it's the simplest
things that really can move the needle and really make a bigger
impact on our life. Absolutely.
It's so easy for us to make things so much harder or to say
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over analyzing and you know, andthen that's what becomes that
paralysis for us. You know, I love that journaling
is so fluid and like it doesn't have to be this big thing.
You know, it can really just be sitting down for if you have 5
minutes, if you have 30 minutes,you know it is.
I know my mom, it's so funny because we really were, she
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doesn't know. Well, I just hate journaling.
You have been the journal you'vebeen journaling since you were
little. Because I was doing that too.
And it was so funny because how we started with her was just, I
said, OK, well, then don't journal just like do a voice
note to yourself or just talk inthe car.
If there's, you know, questions that you want to go like record
yourself and talk about it, thenyou can revisit it, you know?
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So she kind of started doing that.
And then now who's journaling? My mom, that's so great.
I love. That gosh, this wasn't so bad
after all. I.
After you. But started with the gratitude.
Yeah, Honestly, I think gratitude journaling is the
easiest place to start. It is.
And then we can start going deeper.
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So I love that you mentioned that.
So love, love, love, love all ofthis.
And I I'm so grateful that, you know, we can offer this up.
And definitely ladies truly lookinto this program.
Grab that free journal. And before we wrap up with Lisa
today, we always we've started this new little fun segment.
It's called Spark and Spill, andthese are just really quick
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questions with fast answers straight from the heart.
So are you willing to play with me today?
Absolutely all. Right.
I just love for women to get to know some of the fun parts of us
too. So my first question would be,
what is a favorite book or podcast that you're either
currently loving or it's some it's a book or podcast that
really changed you? Well, a book that is, it's, it's
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thick in terms of like its message and its content, but it
has really helped me so much this year as I I read it in
January. And it's one of those books that
just sort of sits on my night stand.
And it's a New Earth by Eckhart Tolle.
And he is, he's amazing. And it's really just about the
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power of being in this present moment.
And, and I really take this message into my work a lot
because you can't look back, because you can't.
I mean, you can with memories and fondness, thankfulness for
the memories. But we cannot change the past.
We don't know what tomorrow brings.
So worrying about it obsessivelyis not going to do anything but
drain our energy. And truly, all we have is this
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present moment. And it's one of those books
where you read it and then maybeyou go back and read it, part of
it, or read it again in six months.
And because you've changed and you've evolved, the book speaks
to you differently. You put it down, you don't read
it again for like 3 or five years.
And then it's very different. So it's one of those, you know,
it's, it's a good come back to it and it's, it's heavy.
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But if, if you're into it, Oprahhas she brought him on to her
book club 25 years ago and fell in love with him.
And so this year she did it again.
She brought back the book. It's the only time she's ever
brought back a book. So you can go to the Oprah
podcast and they break the book down together.
So even if you don't want to getinto the book, but you just want
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to kind of get a flavor and you know, she does such a brilliant
job of interviewing people and she brings in outside guests and
you can just kind of check that out and see if it might be
something that you want to you want to dive into.
So that's. That's my point for That's a
good one. That's a good one.
All right, well, what is something that instantly shifts
your mood? Exercise, exercise always, even
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if it's just a walk around the block.
It's just, it's a game changer. Always just moving the energy,
getting your blood flowing. You know, it's just, it's so
important getting riffins going.Yes, love, love, love that.
What is? If you drink coffee, what's your
coffee order? If not, what about tea?
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Or maybe something else entirely?
What's your? Favorite No, I I love my coffee.
I I don't order coffee out a lotright now, but if I do, because
I make it at home and I just, you know, love my little coffee
machine and I'm pretty simple, but if I do, it's just it's a
yummy oat milk latte. It's just kind of sweet
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indulgence, yes. Love it, love it.
OK, two more questions. One more is what is on your
night stand right now, OK? Or one thing at least that's on
your. Night stand.
Well, my journal is always on mynight stand.
Yeah, I, I have a lot on my night stand, actually.
I'm always like, I got to clear this out.
Definitely some books, the Eckhart Tolle book.
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I'm reading a book about money right now, which I'm really
enjoying, my journal and, you know, pictures of my girls and
my grandson. Love it, love it.
And last question, if you could give your younger self one
sentence of advice, what would it be?
It's so easy. I mean, don't worry so much, you
know, don't, don't sweat all thelittle things.
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Love it. Love it.
Exactly. It's as easy as that.
Really don't. Don't.
Don't sweat the little things. Truly, truly love.
Oh my gosh, Lisa, thank you so much for just your honesty, your
energy, your heart. I just I have enjoyed this so
much and. Oh my gosh.
Thank you. Yeah.
It's been so wonderful. No, you're the best.
I so appreciate what you're doing for women and just really
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grateful for the opportunity to share.
And I'm just. I'm so proud of you.
I. Am well, like I said, feelings
or mutual. I remember, I mean truly like
this is going back, but in the company that we were both in.
I remember I did not know you atthe time I knew of you.
You were on the big stages, big stages and I there was just
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always at the Speaking of energy.
There was just always an energy that I was drawn to you and I
was like, gosh, I just really appreciated you.
You inspired me back then. You continue to inspire me now
and I am just so grateful that we can be sitting here together
having this conversation. Cuz I really do feel like your
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story is a mirror for so many women and especially those that
are like standing on this edge of a new chapter, right?
And wondering like, am I too late?
What am I going to do? So you've just reminded us in
this conversation that it's possible.
Anything is possible and you canstart over and it's OK.
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And I am so, so grateful. And those of you listening that
just felt so seen here, please go connect with Lisa.
Like I said, we're gonna connecteverything on the show notes.
Lisa, where's the best place to find you?
I you can. Just go to my website,
lisablaisdell.com. Yeah, awesome, awesome.
OK, well go to her website and thank you again so much Lisa
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and. And thank you so much, honey, so
appreciate you. Love you too, girl.
Keep rising, keep shining, and know that your best day is
waiting right here for you and we'll see you next week.
Bye friends. Thanks for joining me here
today. Your presence means the world to
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Welcome to the Rise to Shine Podcast with Noel Custis where
we ignite the spark to discover your favorite self.
It is time to get real, ladies. Hey friend, welcome back to the
Rise to Shine podcast. I'm your host, Noel Custis, and
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I am so excited for today's episode because we are going
deep into what it means to choose yourself in midlife and
build A next chapter that feels both powerful and peaceful.
My guest today is my friend and fellow Next chapter guide Lisa
Blaisdell and we actually go wayback to our early days in
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entrepreneurship and it has beensuch a gift to witness her
evolution. Lisa is a multi 6 figure social
entrepreneur who empowers midlife women to reclaim their
self worth both emotionally, financially and spiritually.
So super fun work here. And after building this multi
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$1,000,000 business in network marketing, she actually made a
really bold pivot that led to 600% growth.
Her real transformation actuallycame when she left a long term
marriage and stepped into full alignment.
So now, like me, she's mentoringwomen through the tender and
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courageous work of reinvention. So, Lisa, I am so glad you were
here. Noel, thank you so much for
having me. We do go way back and I feel
like I'm I'm just chatting with a dear old friend and I just so
admire and commend the work thatyou're doing for women.
And it's just so, so important and you are such a bright light
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and the way that you are showingup and serving midlife women.
I'm just really in awe of what you've created.
And I'm just so happy to have this conversation and hopefully
serve some of your amazing listeners that are out there
today. Well, the feelings are mutual
and I truly, I have been watching you.
I got to kind of go through thistransition with you online
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through social media. And then when we reconnected, it
was so much fun. And you have truly inspired me.
I love the way that you show up for women.
I love that you are, you know, Iknow authenticity is a word
that's kind of been like put outthere a ton lately.
And people are like, what does that actually mean?
But I can tell you that and my audience here that you, Lisa,
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honestly just always show up so authentically and always just
you, whether it's a walk on the beach or coming in and, you
know, really sharing your heart,whatever that looks like.
I just am always so inspired by that and I.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
I mean, it's the ultimate compliment to, you know, have
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someone say you you show up exactly as you are.
And that's how that's what I want for all women is just, you
know, unapologetically exactly as they are.
Love it, love it. Well, I cannot wait for this
conversation and I would just love.
I know I did an introduction on kind of your summary of what is
happening in life. But for those of you that are
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just meeting, for those people that are just meeting you, can
you just share a little background and how this next
chapter of your work was born, how you ended up here today?
Yes, no, I'm happy to. So I have had several businesses
in the health and Wellness industry.
I'm still in that industry and have very much always wanted to
help women and families, you know, really with their with
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their health and empower women to, you know, create extra
income for their families if that's something that they want
to do. But I went through a lot of
transitions starting in 2020, as, you know, the world changed,
You know, it really gave us all an opportunity to, you know,
really reevaluate. Are we happy doing this?
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And I had been with one company for 17 years, so almost 2
decades. I really raised my family, you
know, as I built this business and it, it meant a lot to our
family and it was an amazing source of income for me and
allowed me to stay home with my daughters and still have a, a
really great income. But I was stuck and I was
stagnant and I wasn't serving women at the capacity that I
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wanted to. And when a new opportunity came
in to help, you know, for me to do something a little bit
different, similar, similar industry, but but a different
company, it was a very hard decision for me to make.
But I did change companies and rebuilt an entirely new business
from scratch, started over from scratch, resigned.
You know, my company didn't takeanything with me.
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And that experience taught me a lot.
And it taught me that when we get out of our comfort zones and
I, I teach this a lot, but when we take these brave leaps of
faith and we just walk into the unknown and we just trust that
it's all going to be OK, it, it can be even more incredible than
what you even imagined it would be.
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And, and it was an incredible ride.
And it gave me the courage to really start to admit that there
were other parts of my life thatI was not happy in.
And I spent, like many women, you know, busy raising my
family, busy with my career, busy with friends and, and in a
community, we had a huge networkof friends and community.
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And when that started to quiet down, you know, when my kids
were getting older, my youngest went back to college after
COVID, she was able to move back.
And I was just kind of in the weeds of of, you know, building
this business again and having alot of fun.
It really like showed me that I was not happy in my marriage and
that, you know, I was going to have to do something about it.
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This is very common for women ofour age.
And, you know, there's a lot of terms around this.
And I think when our lives just,you know, kind of get quieter, I
was able to have that honest conversation with myself first,
which is what I encourage women to do.
And I knew that something was going to have to change.
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And yet it was incredibly hard and incredibly painful.
I was married to a good guy, andhe is a good human.
He's a good dad and a good provider.
And we had a lot of really greatyears, but we were not meant to
go the distance. And, you know, we had both, you
know, really kind of changed into different people.
And we both wanted different things.
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And yet, and I, I know this fromthe work I do, you know, most
men are willing to just stay in what's familiar.
And I hate to categorize this, but I've coached a lot of women,
and nothing was going to change unless I made the change.
You know, it was a very, very difficult decision for me to
come to. And even when we initially
separated, it was very hard for me to, you know, ultimately pull
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the trigger because I felt so many things.
I felt guilt. I felt shame.
I felt like, you know, how can Ido this to my family, to our
extended family? We had a beautiful life.
I knew that was going to change and it just, you know, there was
a lot of fear and, you know, it's very normal and it's very
common and it's what keeps womenstuck in what they're not happy
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with. And so when I really, you know,
got on the other side and I, I did make that change and, you
know, really just started to live my new chapter.
A lot of women were coming to me.
You know, they knew my story, they knew our family, they knew
that my now ex-husband and I were amicable and that we were
able to navigate this. You know, after the initial
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bumps, which it is bumpy, there's no question about it
that we were able to come to a place where we could be friends
and still celebrate, you know, our grown daughters together and
just have a very healthy relationship.
People wanted to know what I wasdoing.
And so I just, it really just happened organically and I
started to share my story on social media and you know, it,
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it has just really evolved and snowballed from there.
So it really came from my, my own story and me really wanting
to help empower so many women who feel like they just can't do
this because, you know, they fear the unknown, they fear what
other people will think, you know, they, they really get
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stuck in their own head. And obviously, you know, it, it
takes two people to make a relationship and it takes two
people to end a relationship. And sometimes they're met with
incredible resistance. And that's, you know, just a
very hard path to go down. So that's, that's really how my,
my coaching has unfolded. And you know, I, I am in the
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weeds with women as they navigate this change.
I'm really helping them with their emotions and really
helping them feel, you know, validated.
Yes, it's OK to be very sad. And, you know, there's a lot of
confusion initially and how they're feeling because it's
like, well, if I'm sad about this, like, why am I doing it?
It I shouldn't be doing it. So I really help them
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understand, you know, kind of why they're feeling this way.
And I just continue to paint a vision for them that.
And because I believe this with all my heart, that if you do
this with love and compassion and you get the support that you
need and, you know, allow the kids to process their emotions
and offer support to them, whichI think is so important, then
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everyone is going to be OK. And, you know, yes, it's a hard
thing. Yes, it's, you know, a lot of
change. But, you know, life is hard.
And, you know, life can be very hard.
And there's always going to be things in life that are hard.
And, you know, for me, going through this and landing on the
other side has been such a greatlesson for my daughters to see
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their mother do something very difficult and make this brave
change. You know, they were the only
ones that knew how unhappy theirfather and I were.
We hid it from the world. And as as most families do you,
you hide, you know, no one is showing on social media and all
the stuff right behind the scenes.
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And, you know, they're proud of their parents and they're proud
that they, you know, were able to navigate this and that we can
still come together and support one another and be happy for
each other in this new phase of life.
And, you know, they had to work through their own stuff and
continue to, but they have a sense of resiliency about them
that, you know, I'm glad becauselife can be challenging.
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And I want my girls to be strongand to feel like they can get
through anything right. Oh, there's a lot of lessons in
going to chapters. So much and I, you know, gosh,
so, so many things that I know that we are going to talk about
and get into here because one ofthe first things that you said
that I just thought is so important, especially when we
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get into the age where our kids are starting to grow up and
maybe life is starting to change, like our roles as moms
are starting to change. We went through the pandemic at
that same exact time, which thatit was like the whole world was
changing all at once. One of the things you said that
I felt like is so prevalent for women is when things start to
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change, things also start to quiet.
And. You are not in this frantic,
busy mode anymore, like taking the kids here and doing this and
doing that. And then all of a sudden you're
spending a little bit more time with yourself.
And all of a sudden, things thatmaybe you had put on the back
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burner or didn't want to deal with or were in denial of start
to come to the surface. And, you know, hence this is
when women think that they're like starting to go through this
midlife crisis. And we always talk about, you
know, here that it's not a crisis.
It really isn't. It really is a becoming.
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It is a new chapter that you're going to be stepping into.
And it can be beautiful. And I feel like, you know, one
of the things that happens though, in this time is that
women fear choosing themselves. And you and I were talking about
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this, and I know you coach around this as well and talk
about this, that really choosingyourself isn't selfish.
It's actually sacred and it is abenefit to everyone.
So what does that look like, youknow, in as you're talking to
your clients? What does that look like in the
day-to-day for women in midlife to be able to choose themselves?
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Well, to choose themselves, it'susually, you know, the kind of
work that I'm doing as a divorcecoach, it's helping these women
get honest with the fact that the relationship has run its
course or, you know, they're notwith the right partner for them
anymore. And that ending this, you know,
marriage relationship is going to be hard, but that in the end,
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you know, you know, kids seeing their mom happier, kids seeing
their dads, you know, happier eventually, you know, and kids
seeing that, you know, parents have feelings too.
You know, we, we are humans at the end of the day, and we're
doing the best job that we can. You know, we're, we're
navigating a lot and that we're doing everything that we can
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with love, but that staying in something that is, you know,
really not serving you is not making you happy.
You know, in some cases is really unhealthy for a woman.
It's, it's no way to live for you.
And as a mother, it's no way forme to role model for my kids.
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You know, what is acceptable. And, you know, I, I just believe
very strongly that kids are watching us, you know,
especially young adult kids, more than listening to what we
say, they're watching how we live our lives and how we do
things. And, you know, doing really
difficult things in life takes alot of courage.
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And, you know, for my clients, they're usually very surprised
that their kids are, yes, you know, initially selfishly, you
know, sad that something is ending.
But also they're usually incredibly proud of their moms.
And a lot of kids have been waiting, needing to see their
their parents make this change because they know that they're
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living in something that's really unhealthy, then that's
unhealthy and unhappy. And they're actually very, you
know, supportive of their parents and just, you know, and,
and also, you know, I'm reminding my clients every day
that young adults are very self absorbed in their own life and
they're kind of worried about what's going on for them.
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And, you know, I mean, I don't mean to downplay it, but divorce
is common. And it really, it's not like
it's some rare thing. And in the big scheme of life of
what can happen to kids, yes, it's hard and yes, some divorces
are really ugly and horrible. And it's a shame.
And I, I try to do my part to bea part of a process that's very
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different than that. Nobody wins when it's ugly and,
and people are hurting one another intentionally.
I just can't understand that at all.
But big scheme of life, so many things can happen to kids.
And you know, as long as everyone is healthy and taking
care of themselves and leading with love, then this, this
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process does not have to be horrible.
I love that. I love that because you know,
you're right there. Especially as our, as our kids
are getting older, they are so they are so into it.
It kind of goes back to, you know, that place of when they
were little and it was all aboutthem and kind of go through a
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point where they're, you know, doing other things.
And then then it comes to them growing up again.
And you know, even that early adulthood where it's like, holy
cow, I'm adulting and this is a whole new life.
So they are so into their own stuff.
But one thing I can absolutely just 100% agree with you is that
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our kids are watching. Yeah.
And one of the things that they are doing for us is they are
rooting for us. They are.
And they want us to be happy andthey know when we have been, you
know, I mean, we think we're hiding things well with them,
right when they're in in our home, but we're not.
They feel the energy. They they know that there are
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things that can be really tough.Yes they do.
And I, I think resilience is, you know, so such a, you know,
such an important word when we're talking about all of this,
because not only are we more resilient that we realize, but
our kids are resilient. Yes, they are they and.
I yeah, I just, I love how you have always come at it with such
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honesty and integrity with your kids to where you know they can
maintain relationships with boththeir mom and dad.
You know, yeah, yeah, you have. Always, you know, put that out
there and of course we know every situation is very
different and you know, all of that is different for each woman
woman. But I do believe that kids, you
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know, are able to have those harder conversations and we can
go there in which they are going.
We want you to be happy. We want you to be happy.
I I watched my mom go through a divorce and and selfishly when I
was little. Now this was with my stepdad.
My father passed away when I wasreally young, so this was with
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my step dad, which funny story, they actually got divorced after
five years. My step dad and my mom, I was
actually, I mean, this is terrible to say, but it was very
dysfunctional when they got together at that time.
I was actually grateful because I was just like, Oh my gosh,
this is such a disaster. And.
The irony was is that 20 years later they got remarried and
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they reconducted. Funny.
So here I was in a place of like, OK, this is all over.
And then I, as an adult, had to go, oh whoa, this is all coming
back into my life. That is so wild.
Yeah, it's a wild story, Lisa, and I'll have to share that with
you sometime. It was crazy but it went back to
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that place of even though I was confused and frustrated and
maybe even a little hurt when they got back together.
Mind you, I was in my 30s at this point.
At. The same time, I was still
rooting for my mom and her happiness because.
I you. Know what?
I don't want her to be alone forever.
I want her to be happy. I want her to find that.
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So yeah, I just, I, I do really believe we start to mature as
children. Too.
They do. They do, They do.
And I think that's so important for moms to hear because so much
of what we do as moms is we are people pleasers and we want to
please everybody else around us and make sure everybody else is
OK and we are not alive at times, Right.
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So in the work that you're doing, what are some of the
common patterns? Cuz you know, sometimes it's
maybe it's a relationship or a divorce, but there's also women
considering other big life shifts.
Maybe in this quiet time, you know, they are going, OK, my
relationship's good, but my workis not and I might change that.
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So what are some of the common patterns or pain points that you
see in women that are considering a big life shift?
Well, a lot of the patterns thatI deal with are just what you
brought a lot of people pleasingand, you know, living into a
role that they have always had. And like, even when I left my
first company, it was very upsetting for a lot of people in
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my life. Like, even though like they were
just rooting me on from the sidelines.
It's how they knew me. So you've been doing something
for a long time if people know you in their certain role and
any change that they are thinking about making is going
to make the other people in their life uncomfortable.
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And so I really try to help encourage that woman that they
will let them deal with their discomfort.
They'll work through it. You know, they're all big people
too. But no one should be living
their life and doing, you know, whether it's being in a
relationship or having a career or living in a certain
community. No one should be staying in any
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part of their life because they're worried about how other
people are going to do or, or how they're going to feel if
they change. Yeah.
So that's a big thing that I help women with because we are
so conditioned to be the good girl to, you know, go to school,
get the job, get the career, getmarried, have the kids.
Like we're so conditioned to do things a certain way that when
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we do get to midlife and things start to unfold and new
opportunities come up or whatever it is, we realize that
we want to make a change. It's very, very hard because
we've been living our life as the good girl is making sure
that everyone else is happy withour choices.
And, you know, these two big changes that I made kind of
back-to-back really allowed me to see that not everybody's
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gonna support you initially and not everybody's gonna come with
you. And that's a, a, a big theme
that I try to help women understand and help them just
come to some peace that not everyone's going to go with you
through every season of your life.
And that is OK. I mean, it really, really is OK.
I mean, obviously some will and,and it, you know, some people
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think, oh, my family's always going to be with me.
Well, maybe not. If you're part of a toxic family
and you know they're not supporting you and they're not,
you know, by your side through things, then it's OK to let
negative people go no matter whothey are.
And just to be OK with the decisions that they're making.
And, you know, a lot of what I do know well is really helping
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women learn to trust themselves again.
So so key. Because they've lost jobs.
Look. Like, so when you're when you're
really, you know, diving into that work and learning how to
trust themselves again, what? So what does that work look like
in your world? Well, I the first thing that
women can do when they want to start to learn from me as I have
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a free journal. I mean, I've had it for like a
year and a half and over 4000 women have downloaded it and
they love it. And you know, you'll hear
business coaches say like, oh, you need a new free tool or
whatever. And I'm like, women love this
tool. So I'm not changing it.
And then as I'm working with someone one-on-one or even in my
groups, I, I run a Group 3 * a year, I want them to spend time
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being quiet and just journaling and listening to themselves.
Like, don't even listen to me. I mean, like listen to me.
But really the most important voice that you need to listen to
is yourself because, you know, getting in touch with your
intuition again, spending time and quiet, spending time in
nature, you know, learning, you know, you don't have to meditate
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full on. But just even like taking a few
moments before you start your day and just really getting
still and just breathing and just really starting to get in
touch with how you want to feel.And I, I just think that that's
such an important muscle to go back and rebuild, especially if
you've been living your life, you know, just sort of tuning
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out your own inner voice and just listening to everyone else
and, and putting everyone else'sneeds before you.
Well, I love that because because it is, it's like as you
are, you know, I mean, I know when I was back in 2020 when I
was starting to listen to that inner voice and kind of going
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through that and knowing I needed to make a change, I was
also at this crossroads of like,but how do I do that?
How do I do that? And then of course, you know,
and work through all of my stuff.
And I journaling was a huge component of that.
And just taking that quiet time to be able to really get back in
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touch with our own identity, 'cause I was like, my whole
identity had become the role of a teacher.
And I was, how do I leave that? How, how do I leave?
You know, prior to that, I had gone through a divorce after 19
years and same thing. I was like, how is my identity
not being Mrs. Johnston? What does that look like?
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And there came like the shame and this guilt.
And until I started to do some of that work, you know, and, and
I did not know what, that there were coaches out there that were
helping people do this. I was like, Oh my gosh, that
could have really probably helped a ton right through some
of these things that I, I was struggling with.
I went, you know, to counseling and those kinds of things.
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But there's something beautiful about working with a coach or a
mentor that has that can walk alongside of you.
They're they're not the guru, they're the guide.
And. Many times, you know, being that
you specialize, I mean, you really focus on more of the
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divorce and you know, different things like that because you've
walked those in those shoes. You have been there.
I think that that is something that just feels so good as a
woman when you're like, you get me because I feel like they're
my friends. Don't get me.
My family doesn't get me, but I have one that gets me and to be
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in these communities that you can to offer, you know, a group
type of thing, you know, three times a year.
And I just those, those saved melater on.
Of course I did then, but years later it's it definitely saved
me and that's why I became so passionate to do this work as
well. Absolutely.
I mean, women just don't. They want to know that they're
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not alone. You know, they want to be around
other women who are changing their life, who are going
through all the same things. And, you know, even though every
situation is different, obviously the themes are the
same. And I just think more than ever,
we just, you know, building community is something that I've
always done and what I'd love todo.
And, you know, really just helping women feel like they're
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not alone. And if they have other women
that know how it feels to go through so much change and to
experience grief and, and to rebuild and, and to do it.
So yeah, it's it's all such important work and the other big
thing that I do that I really try to help women re establish
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is a sense of self love and selfand really start to, you know,
love themselves again, maybe forthe first time.
Does it really can take a toll on you when you go through such
a, a devastating change in your life and to just really start to
lean on yourself because so manywomen are afraid, you know,
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they're afraid to end their marriage because they're afraid
to be on their own. And I really encourage them to
use this as an opportunity to get to know yourself and, you
know, fall back in love with yourself and build that inner
strength again because so many amazing things can happen when
you start to just lean into yourself.
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Yeah, so good. And one of the other things that
I really appreciate about your work is financial empowerment.
And because that was something that was really scary for me as
I was going through my divorce was how do I do this alone?
How, how do I, how do I move forward?
So, you know, I just think that that's such a powerful part of
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your work. What is that something that you
really bring into the table in your coaching?
I mean, I know that I I have seen that, but.
I mean I, so I, I live, you know, first of all, I, I try and
lead by example. So, you know, I am financially
still self-sufficient on my own.And you know, I, I really try to
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encourage women that whatever it, wherever they're at, that
they have options to go out and create something for themselves.
And I don't care how old you are, I don't care what your
skill set is. You know, if you're willing to
learn some new skills, if you'rewilling to try some new things,
you can go out and create something for yourself.
You can get part time work, you can get full time work.
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You can start a business, you know, online, offline.
There's a million things that women can do.
And I mean, I'm still, you know,building my coaching business
and building another health and Wellness business at the same
time. And I also have in my group, I
bring in a woman who's incredible, She is a financial
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expert for, with navigating divorce and she's been super
helpful for the women in my group because so many women are
so used to just like sacrificingthemselves and sacrificing their
needs and saying, you know, I just want to get out.
I mean, he can have everything. Like I don't care.
And I just, I really am like, no, you need to care.
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Like you need to care. And I know you just want this to
end and I know you want this to be easy and you feel like you're
hurting everyone so you don't want to ask for money.
But I just, I cannot understate enough to women how important it
is that they get their fair share.
I mean, I'm not encouraging women to take anyone to the
cleaners, but so many, I mean, statistically women do worse off
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financially. It's just a fact.
Like women do not land on their feet in the same way that men
do. I mean, men don't do as well
emotionally. Women do better emotionally,
they're happier, but women do poorer financially.
And so I love to have this womancome in and just really educate
women about the process. And, you know, I'm always
reminding people that you have rights and no one has a right
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to. I mean, listen, there's horror
stories everywhere. And I also just really encourage
women to tune out the noise. Like, you know, your neighbor's
divorce, your cousin's divorce it, you know, if it was a
horrible thing, I'm sorry for them, but that does not mean
that yours is going to be, you know, and, and I really just
encourage them to tune out the noise and to know what they want
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and to be, you know, do not short change yourself and to ask
for what you deserve. You know, whether you've been a
stay at home mom and that was a choice that you made as a
couple, or if you're a teacher and he's a lawyer and, you know,
like, it's very obvious, like who's making more money like
you, you need to ask for a settlement that's going to be
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fair to you so that you're not like, you know, feeling
destitute in your 50s. It should not be that way.
Right. No, absolutely.
I love that and it is so, so important.
And just a question for you as far as women who might be out
there that are just like kind ofin that space of quietly
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wondering like should I stay, should I leave?
What should I do? What are some, what are some,
maybe you know, reflective questions or some inner check
insurance that they could do to kind of help get them really to
a place that they're able to start making or just maybe just
start having more clarity around?
That right, right. Well, I really would encourage
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them. I mean, they can get my journal,
it's free, but just to really start to journal around, you
know, when it gets quiet and you're by yourself, how do you
feel like, how do you feel? I mean, do you feel at peace?
Do you feel happy? Do you feel, you know, like
you're free, you know, and, and I think where women get caught
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up is they don't have the time and the space to just really pay
attention to how they're feelingand not to look for evidence day
in and day out. Because maybe some days you're
working really well, like together collaboratively with
your partner. Maybe some days you know it,
it's a tougher day, but to try not to be on that roller coaster
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of looking for the evidence day in and day out, but to really
focus more on how you feel day in and day out.
I love that. That is such a great point
because gosh, how many of us aredoing that like and making
ourselves crazy that we're just looking for the evidence we're
instead of like going deeper within.
Because when you really go deeper within, the answers are
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all there. You have to be brave enough to
do that. Get quiet.
Isn't that the truth Oh my gosh well, I know that you are
holding so much space for so many women.
How do you in your daily life now the Lisa, now how do you
stay grounded and aligned while you're still showing up at such
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a high level for other women? Well, I do take care of myself.
I mean, I, you know, I, I reallylisten to myself and know like
when I need to, you know, take some time.
I'm, I practice what I preach. I journal every morning.
I have a really good morning routine that is really important
to me. I spend a lot of time outside in
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nature. You know, I live close to the
beach and, you know, I really just stay very grounded in the
fact that none of us are here for a very long time and that
things like the ocean and the trees and all these things are
going to be here long after I'm gone.
And I have really just leaned into that part of my life and
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just it really helps ground me. And, you know, I do have an
amazing partner who's just incredibly supportive and just a
real amazing listener. And, you know, and we, we have
found, you know, things that really bring us joy and just
going for lots of walks and, youknow, enjoying my life in
general. And just, you know, and as
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empathetic as I am, I am boundaried myself and how, you
know, just again, practicing what I preach and staying
boundaried. And, you know, I, I know that
these women are going to, are going to get through this hard
time. I, I know that they are.
And I know that it isn't easy and that they have a lot of
really rough days. But I do have the perspective
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of, you know, the rearview mirror to, to and in my own life
and how I'm doing OK, that even in the toughest circumstances,
you know, we are going to be OK.Like no matter what it is, and I
do truly believe that and I just, I live my life that way.
And it's funny what you think about really does manifest and
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you know the I believe that everything is going to work out
the more it works out. Yeah, well, Speaking of which, I
mean, you know, really, it's like I think about it.
And for you specifically, I knowyou are a new grandma, which is
hard to believe. I look at you.
Oh my gosh. How are you a grandma?
I. Know it's it's that legacy,
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right. And so how, how has becoming, I
think you go by, you go by. Do you go by I'm Grammy?
I I it's Grammy. Very old.
Fashioned. Yes.
I love it, I think. Fancy.
Grammy And so how? How has that even shifted your
perspective on legacy? It's amazing.
I mean, it's just like the greatest joy I could have ever
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imagined. And listen, this is again, I'm
very transparent. This was not anything that my
daughter was planning on at thistime.
She always wanted to be a mom, but it took them both by
surprise. And it's okay.
And he's just such a joy. And because of, you know, the
fact that I'm an entrepreneur and I have, you know, the
ability to carve out my own schedule, I'm able to be with
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him. I go up every Wednesday and I
spend the day with them and, andgive my daughter a break.
She's a stay at home mom currently.
And, you know, it's just allowedme to lean into truly being
present because when we're young, you know, when we're
raising these kids, we're just like so much, you know, it's all
new and overwhelming. And we're thinking about
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doctor's appointments and makingsure that they're eating their
broccoli and like all the stuff,you know, And I care about those
things for him too. But I truly just show up and I
have the maturity and the discipline and the wisdom just
to say I am tuning out the world.
It will all be there when I go home.
And I'm just going to stay present for him and I, I, I just
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know him. It's such a little.
He'll be two next week. It's amazing.
I know it's second. I know it goes super fast.
And I just yes. And I love knowing that he's
going to know me and have a relationship with me.
And he's not going to know that his mom's parents, you know what
I mean? Like he doesn't, he won't ever
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know that my daughter's father and I were were married for such
a long time. He's going to know, you know,
Grammy and Danny at the beach and grandpa and Mimi in Idaho in
their world. And like he's going to get this
big expanded family that is so awesome and beautiful and
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imperfect, you know? And I'm, I'm actually really
proud of that because life is imperfect.
And it doesn't matter to him because he's just loved by all
these people. And, you know, I was raised
inside of a blended family and Iknow the challenges of that.
And I also know the beauty of that.
And so I just think he's going to get the best of all of us.
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And so it's it's very cool. And I'm I'm young, even though
I'm young to be a grandma, like I'm young to be a grandma.
So it's pretty some because I'm going to be there for all all of
the things. So fun, so fun.
Love that. I love that so, so good.
And it's just, you know, if anything, like I just feel like
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this just gives women such hope that, you know, you may be, you
may be a listener out there that's struggling and you might
be in the thick of it. And just to know, like hearing
you just gives hope to women that it's like you don't have to
stay stuck. We have choices, maybe a
midlife, but ladies, trust me when we tell you that it is not
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a midlife crisis. And there is so much joy on the
other side in your next chapter and whatever that looks like,
whether it be, you know, starting a new relationship,
ending a relationship, going into a new, you know, space for
your work. Or maybe it's just simply like,
my life is really good, but I amstruggling just with my own self
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stuff, right? These are the things that Lisa
and I love to work with women on.
And Lisa, I would love to ask you, you know, you know, and I
know we'll have it all in our show notes, all in the links,
but what are what some current things that are lighting you up
in work and any of your offers or anything that's going on that
you would love to share with ouraudience?
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Oh, you're so sweet. Well, I am getting ready to
launch the fall session of my group coaching program.
And that's when we gather as a small group.
There's only like 10, maybe 12 women if it if like they begged
me to get in, but where we're really navigating a lot of the
things that women are going through if they're contemplating
ending their marriage. And it's for women who are, you
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know, what I call circling the drain and, and can't really
figure out what the right step is to do.
And it's for women who are in the messy middle and they're
struggling with, you know, all of the confusion and all the
emotions and things like that. It's a seven week program.
It's really designed to help women feel connected, get more
clarity and just really build some courage to to navigate this
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process. So that will be.
They can get on the wait list ifthey'd like to just know more
about it. And I'll start to send out
emails at the end of the month and just my free journal if they
just want to start to have the honest conversation with
themselves. I mean, you know, I think
sometimes women feel like journaling is like this big
project that they have to carve out the space for.
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And it's really not like just like sit down and just be
relaxed about it. And I mean, I started journaling
so many years. I mean, I journaled since I was
a little girl, but you know, I just picked it back up as an, an
adult in a form of gratitude. Like I just started a gratitude
journal. And even if you just start with
that, like just journaling 3 to 5 things every day that you're
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grateful for, if you do that consistently, your life is going
to be very different in a year. And I know it seems like it's so
simple and so easy, but sometimes it's the simplest
things that really can move the needle and really make a bigger
impact on our life. Absolutely.
It's so easy for us to make things so much harder or to say
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over analyzing and you know, andthen that's what becomes that
paralysis for us. You know, I love that journaling
is so fluid and like it doesn't have to be this big thing.
You know, it can really just be sitting down for if you have 5
minutes, if you have 30 minutes,you know it is.
I know my mom, it's so funny because we really were, she
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doesn't know. Well, I just hate journaling.
You have been the journal you'vebeen journaling since you were
little. Because I was doing that too.
And it was so funny because how we started with her was just, I
said, OK, well, then don't journal just like do a voice
note to yourself or just talk inthe car.
If there's, you know, questions that you want to go like record
yourself and talk about it, thenyou can revisit it, you know?
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So she kind of started doing that.
And then now who's journaling? My mom, that's so great.
I love. That gosh, this wasn't so bad
after all. I.
After you. But started with the gratitude.
Yeah, Honestly, I think gratitude journaling is the
easiest place to start. It is.
And then we can start going deeper.
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So I love that you mentioned that.
So love, love, love, love all ofthis.
And I I'm so grateful that, you know, we can offer this up.
And definitely ladies truly lookinto this program.
Grab that free journal. And before we wrap up with Lisa
today, we always we've started this new little fun segment.
It's called Spark and Spill, andthese are just really quick
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questions with fast answers straight from the heart.
So are you willing to play with me today?
Absolutely all. Right.
I just love for women to get to know some of the fun parts of us
too. So my first question would be,
what is a favorite book or podcast that you're either
currently loving or it's some it's a book or podcast that
really changed you? Well, a book that is, it's, it's
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thick in terms of like its message and its content, but it
has really helped me so much this year as I I read it in
January. And it's one of those books that
just sort of sits on my night stand.
And it's a New Earth by Eckhart Tolle.
And he is, he's amazing. And it's really just about the
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power of being in this present moment.
And, and I really take this message into my work a lot
because you can't look back, because you can't.
I mean, you can with memories and fondness, thankfulness for
the memories. But we cannot change the past.
We don't know what tomorrow brings.
So worrying about it obsessivelyis not going to do anything but
drain our energy. And truly, all we have is this
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present moment. And it's one of those books
where you read it and then maybeyou go back and read it, part of
it, or read it again in six months.
And because you've changed and you've evolved, the book speaks
to you differently. You put it down, you don't read
it again for like 3 or five years.
And then it's very different. So it's one of those, you know,
it's, it's a good come back to it and it's, it's heavy.
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But if, if you're into it, Oprahhas she brought him on to her
book club 25 years ago and fell in love with him.
And so this year she did it again.
She brought back the book. It's the only time she's ever
brought back a book. So you can go to the Oprah
podcast and they break the book down together.
So even if you don't want to getinto the book, but you just want
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to kind of get a flavor and you know, she does such a brilliant
job of interviewing people and she brings in outside guests and
you can just kind of check that out and see if it might be
something that you want to you want to dive into.
So that's. That's my point for That's a
good one. That's a good one.
All right, well, what is something that instantly shifts
your mood? Exercise, exercise always, even
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if it's just a walk around the block.
It's just, it's a game changer. Always just moving the energy,
getting your blood flowing. You know, it's just, it's so
important getting riffins going.Yes, love, love, love that.
What is? If you drink coffee, what's your
coffee order? If not, what about tea?
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Or maybe something else entirely?
What's your? Favorite No, I I love my coffee.
I I don't order coffee out a lotright now, but if I do, because
I make it at home and I just, you know, love my little coffee
machine and I'm pretty simple, but if I do, it's just it's a
yummy oat milk latte. It's just kind of sweet
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indulgence, yes. Love it, love it.
OK, two more questions. One more is what is on your
night stand right now, OK? Or one thing at least that's on
your. Night stand.
Well, my journal is always on mynight stand.
Yeah, I, I have a lot on my night stand, actually.
I'm always like, I got to clear this out.
Definitely some books, the Eckhart Tolle book.
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I'm reading a book about money right now, which I'm really
enjoying, my journal and, you know, pictures of my girls and
my grandson. Love it, love it.
And last question, if you could give your younger self one
sentence of advice, what would it be?
It's so easy. I mean, don't worry so much, you
know, don't, don't sweat all thelittle things.
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Love it. Love it.
Exactly. It's as easy as that.
Really don't. Don't.
Don't sweat the little things. Truly, truly love.
Oh my gosh, Lisa, thank you so much for just your honesty, your
energy, your heart. I just I have enjoyed this so
much and. Oh my gosh.
Thank you. Yeah.
It's been so wonderful. No, you're the best.
I so appreciate what you're doing for women and just really
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grateful for the opportunity to share.
And I'm just. I'm so proud of you.
I. Am well, like I said, feelings
or mutual. I remember, I mean truly like
this is going back, but in the company that we were both in.
I remember I did not know you atthe time I knew of you.
You were on the big stages, big stages and I there was just
(47:12):
always at the Speaking of energy.
There was just always an energy that I was drawn to you and I
was like, gosh, I just really appreciated you.
You inspired me back then. You continue to inspire me now
and I am just so grateful that we can be sitting here together
having this conversation. Cuz I really do feel like your
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story is a mirror for so many women and especially those that
are like standing on this edge of a new chapter, right?
And wondering like, am I too late?
What am I going to do? So you've just reminded us in
this conversation that it's possible.
Anything is possible and you canstart over and it's OK.
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And I am so, so grateful. And those of you listening that
just felt so seen here, please go connect with Lisa.
Like I said, we're gonna connecteverything on the show notes.
Lisa, where's the best place to find you?
I you can. Just go to my website,
lisablaisdell.com. Yeah, awesome, awesome.
OK, well go to her website and thank you again so much Lisa
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and. And thank you so much, honey, so
appreciate you. Love you too, girl.
Keep rising, keep shining, and know that your best day is
waiting right here for you and we'll see you next week.
Bye friends. Thanks for joining me here
today. Your presence means the world to
me. If you enjoyed what you heard,
please consider leaving a ratingand review and don't forget to
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follow or subscribe so you nevermiss an episode.
Head to the show notes and let'sconnect.
Rise to Shine Co is ready to support you in coaching,
collaboration, light tips, or even a coffee chat.
Until next this time, keep shining my friends.
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