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Welcome to the Rise to Shine. Podcast with Noel Custis.
Where we ignite the spark. To discover your favorite self,
it is time to. Get real ladies.
Hello, hello and welcome back toThe Rise.
To shine. Podcast I'm your host Noel
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Custis and today I need. To get so real with you about.
Something that has been weighingvery heavy on me, it has been
coming up in so many conversations because honestly,
this is just an emotional. Topic.
As a matter. Of fact, today I literally cried
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after. Hanging up from.
A three and a half hour. Zoom.
Call and I realized the text. Messages that started coming in.
Right after that call. It's not just me.
Who is? Feeling the weight.
Of all of this. Screen time.
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It's the wait for. Everyone.
I see it in my kids too. My daughter who is 23 years old
and. Working on her masters.
Told. Me the other day that she wants
to get a flip. Phone a Flip?
Phone you guys and I get it. Because here's.
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The thing everything she does isonline, her classes, her
assignments, even the books thatshe has to read and she.
Is exhausted from the screens. It's too much for her mental
health. She feels like she's supposed to
be available. To everyone all the time.
And then when she can't. Keep up with all of it.
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She starts avoiding people. And then what it does is it ends
up in this vicious. Loop.
Of falling further behind and feeling even more disconnected.
And then my son, he's the president of his junior.
Class his. Phone is.
Literally. Buzzing constantly and I.
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See the. Pressure on him to always be on,
to always respond to always. Be reachable.
And I cannot help but to notice it.
Feels so. Much heavier than it did 10
years ago. We are burned out.
We are. Fatigued.
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We're numbed out. That is definitely a thing and
I'm finding. That the common denominator.
You guys, it screens whether it is social media, television, the
iPad, it's the endless emails, it's the text messages.
Or it's even like. The late night games that I am
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guilty of playing. This screen time has become our
new secret addiction. It's this thing that we keep.
Tucked away, telling ourselves it's not that bad.
Everyone's doing it. But here's the truth.
For some of us, it's part of ourwork.
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For others. It's how we numb out at the end
of a long day. But no matter what camp you fall
in. The result?
Is the same. Exhaustion.
Distraction. And disconnection from.
Ourselves, disconnection from ourselves.
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So today we're going to talk about it.
We're going to name it and then.We're going to get really
practical because I. Don't want to?
Just talk. About the problem, I want to you
know me. I love to give you.
Tools that you can. Actually use to reclaim your
energy to. Reclaim your focus and that
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spark. That I always talk about
because. I'm going to be again super
honest with you. I feel like I've been losing my.
Spark a little bit. I.
Feel like I have. Been numbing out I have been
really in a place. Where?
I am on the phone constantly formy social.
Media because it is part of my job and it just like feels like
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it's. Adding.
Up so this episode is. As much for me.
As it is for you. And I.
Hope that you will. TuneIn and take a listen.
Especially if this is. Tugging at your heart.
Or if you're noticing. This happening to somebody you
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know and you love, so let's. Just call it for what it is
because the fatigue is real. The burnout is real.
The numbing. Out is real How?
Many times have you promised yourself just five more minutes.
Just 5. More minutes of scrolling and
then suddenly 30 minutes or evenan hour are gone.
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And then you wonder, where did my night even go?
Where did my evening go? How many nights?
Have you reached out for your phone because it was easier?
Than facing your own. Thoughts.
Facing your own feelings or thatsilence that has now.
Started to. Feel uncomfortable for.
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US. How many of how many times have
you felt drained? Anxious or even angry.
After being on social media. Yet you go.
Right, back for more, hoping that maybe this time will feel
different. Maybe I'll do it.
Differently this time. I'm just not going to look at
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the posts that trigger me. I'm just going to.
Slide by them. I mean, I'm raising my hand
because. I'm serious.
This is. Me on a daily lately and I'm not
like super. Proud of this.
I'm not. Because I talk about the value
of. Time and spending.
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Time with our families. Like really leaning into.
Your values. And here I am finding myself
caught in my own loop and I'm going to.
Promise myself not to. Cry in this one.
Because it already starts to bring tears to my eyes because I
feel it so deeply. Right now and then.
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There's what my daughter was talking.
About that I hadn't. Even really thought of is the
constant access. People think they have to us at
all times. Of the day.
And night. You know, and again.
Here I am, I'm going, Oh my gosh, I'm guilty of it.
Like if I remember. Something that I need.
To get a message to somebody I will like.
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Text them or message. Them thinking, well hopefully
they have their phone off and itdoesn't wake them up.
If I send this text, there's notlike a Ding at 11:00 at night,
but then. See, this is where I just like
want to cry because I'm like. But then here I am also
remembering how many. Times do I have the phone like
by my bed stand which. Is a no no.
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By the way, and I know better than that.
But I've been doing it lately, charging my phone next.
To me. So please don't come at me.
For why that's. Not good for you.
Because I do know that. So that's something I need to.
Change. Again.
But I'll hear that. Ding and then I instead of being
able to just go, just ignore it.Noel, I look.
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At it and then it like makes me.Get out of.
My, it makes me kind of get out of my, you know, like I'm just
starting. To fall asleep.
And so it gets. Me out of that.
State of rest I guess you. Could say.
So there's like. Emails there's.
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DMS. There's text, there's group.
Chats don't even get me started.On the group chats my brother is
like do. Not include me on those things.
He gets. So mad because it's just Ding
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding. And then my husband, on the
other hand, he loves. The group chats because.
It's so much more efficient. So there's this unspoken
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expectation that because. We have the device.
We owe people the reply. That because they can.
Reach us we must. Be available and the.
Truth is, is that the. Constant accessibility is
exhausting. God.
Forbid if you don't. Answer somebody for a few hours,
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they start to panic and freak out.
Are you OK? Is everything OK?
I mean it's. Wild if you really.
Sit and think about it. I mean, it's just not a
distraction. It's feeling like it's this
erosion. It's like these screens are just
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chipping. Away at our clarity, they chip
away at our confidence, they chip away at our ability to be
fully. Present in our own.
Lives how many of you? The phone is the.
First thing you. Touch in the morning.
Or the last. Thing that you hold.
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At night, or both? And the very thing we cling.
To when life feels overwhelming.What do we cling to?
We cling to the phone. We cling to a screen.
And deep down, we know it's not serving us, but we keep doing it
anyway. That's why I call it the secret.
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Addiction. It is.
It's an addiction. A few.
Weeks ago I remember one of my. Favorite people?
Who is my online buddy that I? Don't even know in person but I
feel. Like he's my friend.
Carlos Whitaker. He was talking about.
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If you are feeling rage. From being on your screens.
Because of what you see or what you're having access to get off
the screen. And it and it.
Seems like it would just be so easy, right?
But not when it's an addiction and the sneaky.
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Part of all of it is it looks. Harmless from the outside.
We tell ourselves. I'm just.
Checking in, I'm just. Relaxing.
I'm just staying. Connected, but in reality.
It's draining us, it's keeping us stuck, it's stealing our
focus. It's stealing our time away from
our friends, our family. Our creativity.
And then ultimately, our joy. We're not just numbing out
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anymore, we're checking out. It is a way to check out.
And then when we do that, we miss the very moments that are
right in front of us. I'm sorry, I'm just taking a
pause. Because it's just feels so
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heavy. And it hits women.
Really hard because we already carry.
So much you guys, you carry so much.
It's like this invisible load, the caregiver, the emotional
labor, the countless roles that we play in our homes, our
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careers, our communities. And now on top of all.
That we're expected to be constantly accessible.
At work we don't want to seem unresponsive.
Because that would be rude with family and friends we.
Don't want to disappoint anybodyon social media.
Sometimes we're feeling like. We have to keep up or we have to
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stay. Visible we can't miss out on
anything and then when we. Do try to pull back.
That guilt sets in. The fear of being left out.
The fear of being left. Behind or letting someone down.
It. Starts to hit some of us.
Not all of us, but I when my daughter was having this
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conversation with me, I related.To it so much.
And here's the. Thing our intentions are.
So good. We hop on.
Because we. Just want to check in with a.
Friend or. We want to answer a quick
message or we want to respond tothat e-mail and maybe.
Even it's to stay informed because.
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Maybe you don't want to watch the news anymore, you don't want
to watch television anymore, so you kind of rely on the social.
Media or the news? That you find on your phones.
Like the independent people? That you're following that.
Are your sources you? Want to stay informed so none of
this. Starts out with like, bad
motives for the majority of us. Right.
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I mean, I hope I'm not. Talking to.
Anyone in this audience that sits behind their screen and
sits on the keyboard and you know, is using it for not good.
It's not about bad motives. But I see us, just slowly.
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Slipping away, I don't know how else.
To put it. And and let me.
Also just say this too because Ido get it.
Obviously I'm sitting here like trying to hold back every tear.
Because I am. So fatigued right now.
Sometimes it. Really is more convenient to
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send a quick. Text.
Than to make a call you want someone to know.
That you're thinking. Of them, I mean, how many of you
are? Like trying to be more
intentional and you're like. I want when I when they cross my
mind, I want to send them a textand just let them know I'm
thinking about them and you knowthat.
I don't have. 30 minutes or an hour for a full conversation.
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And then there's even the complication of.
Like I. Started doing voice notes
because. Some people love voice.
Notes. But.
Then you get into. This like weird thing because
some people are like. I don't really love the voice
notes I like. The text better.
Some wish you would just pick upthe.
Phone because they're like, I don't want to text, I don't want
to have a voice note, I want youto call me.
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It just feels like no matter what, you.
Choose. It's never quite enough and I I
don't. Want to come?
From victim mentality here, I'm just wanting to lay it.
Out the realities. And if you are relating to any
of this, because maybe I'm not. Describing you perfectly, but
maybe there are parts of this that you're like, yes, that's
me. Because I do think that there
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are layers to this. There are different layers that
are different for everybody. But this is.
How we're all changing what's convenient for one.
Person isn't. Convenient for another person
and so. Even with our best intentions,
connection gets lost in translation I.
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Know we're all doing our. Best and yet.
The very tools that were. Supposed to connect us I.
Feel like are maybe starting to pull us apart, these devices
that keep us. Plugged in.
Also, do leave us. Completely disconnected and then
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we hide behind the screens instead.
Of having real conversations. We watch relationships unravel
because of what's posted or what's shared.
I mean, that's a whole nother. Conversation before I remember.
It was always just about the. You know, comparing what's
really going on and what's like really happening behind the
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scenes that. Was always the biggest talk but
I think. It's even deeper than that now
and I was thinking. About this the other day I, you
know, I was like, OK, we. Send a text instead of asking
how someone's really doing. And then?
We're wondering why we feel so unseen because people are doing
the same and again. It's not to be hurtful, but it's
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just this like weird space. It's.
It's almost like it's just. Stealing our intimacy.
With each other. It's stealing like the presence
that we. Used to have with each other.
In the quote UN quote. Good old days.
And I. See it quietly ripping
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friendships apart, families apart.
Even our own sense. Of self is getting ripped apart
a little bit. And again, this might not.
Be all of you. But I know that every single one
of you listening right now can. Relate to.
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This in some way, shape or form,and I'm going to go back to that
word erosion, because it's not. Just about wasted hours.
It is becoming about erosion, about slowly losing ourselves.
And that is why. I feel like.
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This matters so much, that's whyI feel like.
We need to have conversations around this and we.
Need to be honest. Around it and I don't want us to
feel shame around it. Because we're.
All juggling it we're. All trying to figure it out so.
You know me, I love when I can like dig in and maybe OfferUp
some tangible. Tools.
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Maybe some anchors that you can anchor into.
And again, I'm speaking to myself.
But I started. Doing a little.
Bit of research. On this today.
Because I was like, what is it that we could do?
What? Are some small steps.
Because we are here and we are. Caught in this?
Complicated tension so we can't just throw our phones out the.
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Window. I mean, I know.
My daughter would like to, although she would be sad
ultimately, right? Like that's.
The that's the funny irony in it.
You're like, I want to throw this phone and.
Then you're like, well wait, I can't live without you.
And again, I'm not. Just talking about phones, I am
talking about all screens, right?
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And we can't. All go back.
To flip phones even though some days.
Again, I I think we'd like to, but this is really the world
that we're. Living in and as much as it.
Hurts as much. As it drains us as much as it
numbs. Us out.
Screens are woven into our. Work.
Our families, our friendships. Our everyday lives.
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So the question becomes what? Do we do?
With the things that's connecting us.
Is also hurting us. So the answer.
For me at least, has been learning how to anchor myself.
How can I start setting better boundaries?
To reset to protect. My peace in the world.
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That's always asking. For more and that's exactly what
I want to share with you. So again, those tangible anchors
you can use to reclaim your focus and your.
Energy, that spark. Even while living in this.
Very like saturated world, I should say screen saturated
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world. So this is.
Where again I always. Like to say grab those journals,
open your notes app, whatever you got because I.
Don't want you? To just hear me talk about this
I. Want you to?
Walk away with those tools that you can.
Actually. Use so anchor number. 1.
Is a screen reset. Ritual.
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Let me explain. Choose one no phone zone in your
life. Maybe it's the dinner table,
maybe it's your bedroom, maybe it's the.
First hour of your. Morning.
I want you to really guard that space.
And make it sacred. Like really, really guard the
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space. So you.
Can tonight charge your phone inanother room and just.
Start with that. It's like those stackable habits
where we start with. 1. Boundary and we keep it like we
really, really keep it. Anchor 2 is a digital Sabbath
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like, oh, this hits hard. Some of you might even go, Oh my
gosh, I don't know if I can. Like if you're feeling that, I
feel you. Because as much as I don't want
to admit it, as much as I want to be like, I don't want to look
at my phone. I was just telling my son last
night when we were talking, I said.
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Oh my gosh. I feel like my dream would.
Be for three days to just have me.
And my little family. Somewhere.
Away from all the. Work in our regular lives and
just put down. Our phones and just.
Have solid quality time togetherwithout a screen.
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Isn't it interesting how that is?
Like that's a dream. Now.
For us, so a digital Sabbath would be.
Pick one window of time each week and you can start small.
OK, I don't want you to think like, Oh my gosh.
I have to do it for. The whole day?
No, Pick one day of the week. Even just two hours.
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If you want to. Start where the.
Phone is off and not just the phone is.
Off but. Life is turned on so.
As you're. Building this muscle, stretch it
into a. Half day, then go.
Into a full day. Put it on your calendar.
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If you have to. No screen time from 2:00 to 4:00
PM on Sunday and then make it a.Date with your real life so you
know some. Of you might go, oh, I go.
Hours without looking at my phone.
But is it hours? That you are turning on your
life and doing something. That brings you joy.
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I want you to think. About it more than just oh, I'm
going to turn it off for howeverand maybe.
You are someone that turns it off.
For a couple hours. Stretch it out now to be.
Half a day. Stretch it out to be a full day.
See how it makes you. Feel after you try.
That on, but in addition to that, turn your life on a little
bit more. Turn it on.
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High gear a little bit. Or you know, maybe it that
means. It's time to just rest.
And. Enjoy, rest and give yourself
permission for that. Anchor 3 is boundaries with
access. OK, this is a tough one.
This is tough for my husband. I'm going to say that if
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anybody, if you know my husband,you know that like.
If you text. Him.
If you. Call him, I promise you.
You will have a response. 9 times out of 10 within 30
minutes. Like that is for real.
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But I want to. Tell you that.
You do not owe anyone instant access.
To you I. Always tell him.
You have. Trained.
Your people to believe that theyhave instant.
Access to you excuse. Me practice delayed replies.
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It is OK to say I'll get back. To you tomorrow.
I'll get back to you. Later now is it?
Important to reply something like this.
Is where I tell my daughter. Because my daughter's like, see
why do I? Have to reply.
I don't have to reply instantly.I'm like, OK, no you don't have
to, but but like acknowledge, acknowledge something.
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Even if you have to. Set an autoresponder or a tech.
Shortcut that says. Hey, I'll respond when I'm back
on later. Thanks for your patience, let
people. Learn your rhythm.
We actually had to put codes. For my daughter. 23 year old I
had to say OK. If I put an exclamation point
ahead of my message, that means you have to get back to me as
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soon as possible. If I put a.
Check Mark. Before the message that.
Means I need to hear. From you within 24 hours like
because these are important. If I don't have anything, then
that's on you. Obviously it's not something I
need, right? Away, but sometimes.
There are emergencies. Right.
So I mean we. Still have to acknowledge people
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so maybe. It is about like it is about
having codes anchor 4 replace the.
Numb Notice when you. Reach for your.
Phone to escape and instead of scrolling choose.
A reset that actually restores you.
So here's your tool. Create what I call a.
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Numbing alternatives list maybe?It's a 5.
Minute walk. Maybe it's just some stretching,
some journaling. Maybe you have a book next to
your bed stand. Whatever that is, be ready to
have. Something in place of.
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The scroll. So when that urge.
Hits that you're ready to scroll.
Do. Something else?
Have a little list of what? Something else I can do right
now? Because sometimes.
It's just our habit. It is our.
Addiction and again, I guaranteemy family is going well.
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Are are you going to actually follow these?
So I have to be accountable to this too.
This is why I was doing the research today because I was
like, what can I do? I know some things but I just
don't stick to them. All right, Anchor 5, audit your
feed, OK. This is something I feel like
it's. So important I.
Have been doing this lately. Look at who you're.
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Following and ask does this liftme or does this drain me?
I want you to think about the television you're watching.
What Netflix? Series are you watching?
Are you watching something that is lifting?
You up or are you watching? Something that's draining you?
If it drains you. Unfollow, mute, Stop watching
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that. Show protect your peace.
This has been a game changer forme recently.
A game changer, you guys. There's a couple of shows that I
started watching. One in particular, and this was
a. This was like a year or two ago
because I really started. Really started leaning into this
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auditing my feed. Because I laugh.
Because I go. Oh, my algorithms are so.
Different than what so many other people experience.
And that's because I create thatfor myself Now I will tell you
recently I'm like, oh, my algorithm has changed and I need
to like get back on track. But going back to a.
Show that I was watching. It was a series on Hulu and Oh
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my gosh, I think there was like 6 or seven seasons.
I watched the 1st 4. Seasons like faithfully and I
would binge watch them to numb myself out.
Or and because I was like fascinated, but you guys, I
started. Almost feeling like I was
becoming one of the characters, the main character.
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Not becoming her, but like moving like her.
Like just because she. Kind of got into this like
almost like zombie. State of just like.
I'm going to hang up my clothes,I'm going to go to bed like and
I was in my closet 1 morning. And I did that.
I just. Kind of like hung up my clothes.
I did it. Oh, it gives me the chills just
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talking about it because it. Freaked me.
Out I was like, Oh my gosh, I amstarting to like.
Fall into this role, I am starting to feel like I am her
and it. Weirded.
Me out so much that I have not yet watched.
The last three. Seasons because I was like I.
Can't and if I do. I cannot do it.
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In a binge, like I got to just like watch it like a show at a
time. Like, don't get yourself SO.
Caught up in it? Because.
It messes with our. Brains, you guys.
So tangible. Tool would be unfollow two to
five accounts that don't bring you joy or encouragement.
On your cell phone, go through. What you're watching and really.
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Ask yourself, is this? Bringing me life.
Is this bringing me goodness or is this draining me?
Is this making me mad? Am I feeling?
Exhausted by this and. If.
You are. I dare you to stop or take a
break. Start there.
I'm telling you, it makes a difference.
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I know that these anchors aren'tgoing to make the screens go
away, but they. Are going to give you.
Back a sense of. Choice.
And it will help. You to reclaim your.
Energy I am trusting with some of the new anchors.
That I have researched. And thought, I'm going to lean
into myself. I am going to remind myself
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that. The world.
Is demanding more? Yes.
People expect. More access to us, but I am the
one who. Actually gets to decide.
How much of myself I want to give?
Away and to whom? And I want you to remember the
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same. Because here's the truth.
The screens aren't evil. And they're not going away.
There can be so many beautiful things.
My mom and I am just going to tell.
You this is side. Note but my mom and I about I
don't know. Once every few days we.
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Get on a roll and. We have all these.
Funny memes that we have on social media, like with animals.
Or with babies or. I know there's one that like we
laugh at and it's not very nice,but like when people.
Scare each other and like their.Reactions.
Anyways, this is kind of like dark humor, but it's not really
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like there's really. Funny things.
And we will send each other memes.
And again, you create an algorithm, right?
Because then all of a sudden allthose kinds of things keep
popping up. For a little bit.
My mom and I will. Like literally be laughing so
hard at each of. Our houses, from the things that
we're sending. To each other that we have tears
rolling down. Our face and our families are
thinking we're. Nuts.
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Sometimes it's late at night andI'm trying not to.
Laugh out loud so hard but it like gives me the belly laugh so
there are. Things that are good.
Too so. Screen time is not all bad, I'm
not here. To say it's all.
Bad, but I'm also. Asking you to reflect on how you
are. Using it and I'm giving you
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permission to say I don't alwayshave to be on.
You don't have to answer every single ping.
Every buzz. Every DM you don't have to keep
exhausting. Being exhausted.
And, you know, numbing. Yourself.
You don't. Have to do that.
What you can do is choose one anchor today.
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Just one. Maybe it's the leaving.
Your phone out of your bedroom tonight.
If that freaks you out. Because it's the only phone line
at home and you want it close incase of emergency.
Maybe it's just. Putting 2 hours on your calendar
this weekend to step. Away from it and.
Live your life for those two hours.
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Maybe it's unfollowing some accounts?
That Chip away at your confidence.
Chip away at your. Joy, your happiness.
Whatever it is just. Pick one and start there.
And if you're. Listening right now and you're
going Oh my gosh, this is me this is my life I.
Needed to hear. This then please know this you.
Are not alone. That's why I was doing this,
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because I'm. Hearing it everywhere, we're
all. Trying to navigate this
together. I would love to hear some of.
Your ideas? Maybe you have?
Some great ideas of things that we can do to help with the
screen. Time and this addiction.
Please slide. Into my DMS, see.
Here I am. Slide into my DMS.
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Respond. But you know what?
I get to choose when I want to read them.
That's OK. That's.
My point is, they're not going away.
But we get to choose. How we're going to use it, when
we're going to use it. And I I do want to tell you that
in the glow lip. School throughout the holidays.
And in the months ahead, we're going to be leaning all the way
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into these conversations because.
We're going to be talking about how to.
Bring. Joy back.
How to reset instead? Of running ourselves into the
ground. Because sometimes we're like,
got to. Finish strong and Oh my gosh.
We've got. All the holidays and all of this
and all of that happening. And we think we just have to go,
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go, go, go, go. And I'm like, Nope, we're going
to focus on how can we? Reset.
I'm actually. Leading an in person workshop
where instead of finishing. The gear.
In that like. Drive drive racing ourselves to
burnout we're going to re engineer it and we're going to
do the opposite we're going to reset there's so.
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Much data around this, that is. So good you guys, so if you.
Want or you? Need a deeper dive?
With this, join us in the glow up.
School. Join us right now.
This is a perfect time. Try us on for the last few
months of the year and. Give yourself the gift of.
Getting a handle on this? Join me on.
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Instagram, we'll do this together and again, you get to
choose. I'm hoping that I can.
Be a space. Where I am bringing.
You. Joy and I'm bringing you life.
If that's what you choose because you're worth, this is
always what I'd love. To remind women of your worth.
Isn't measured by how quickly you.
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Reply How many? People you keep up with how
available you are. Your worth is in who you are.
When the screens. Are off who you are when the
screens are off, so let's reclaim.
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That spark. Let's reclaim that piece.
And our. Presence.
I promise you your family will notice it.
You will notice. It the people.
Around you will notice. It screens don't get the last
word. We we get the last word, we do
so. Again, I would love to hear from
you. I I don't think this
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conversation is over, I think. It is a continuous conversation
that we can have and we can helpeach other with.
So can't wait to see what you anchor in today if you want to.
Share Please do. And then of course.
As always, until next. Time keep rising, keep shining,
and remember. Today is right here waiting for
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