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May 27, 2020 50 mins

In this episode of the ROI Online Podcast, host Steve Brown interviews Charlie Hoen, a young entrepreneur, author, and public speaker. Charlie graduated amid the 2008 recession and, like a lot of millennials at the time, found entering the workforce difficult. After several months of looking for a job that he would actually enjoy doing, he decided there had to be a better way.

Conventional wisdom wasn't working. He started approaching entrepreneurs with a proposal to help them improve a specific aspect of their business - for free. If they liked his work, at the end of a trial basis, they'd discuss payment. It worked. Charlie was working with some of his heroes in the world of business.

He always wanted to be an entrepreneur; he knew finding successful entrepreneurs and sharing ideas with them was how to start. In 2009 he authored his first book, Recession Proof Graduate. He went on to write two more books, Play It Away: A Workaholic's Cure for Anxiety and Play for a Living: Quotes from People Who Found Joy in their Work, and Changed The World.

Charlie also delivered a speech at a TEDx event at Carnegie Hall. His strategy was to create value and stop hoping he would get the job, but instead start as though he was already hired. His highest motivator? Play. Enjoying the work is a massive part of the battle for Charlie.

In his book, Play It Away A Workaholic's Cure for Anxiety, Charlie discusses hitting a wall and his experience with burnout. At a point in his life where he was experiencing a lack of sleep, overstimulation, and no job, he tried every cure he could think of - but nothing seemed to help. It was a dark time and not dissimilar to what a lot of people may be experiencing now in quarantine.

His breakthrough came when he read the book Play: How it Shapes the Brain, Opens the Imagination, and Invigorates the Soul by Stuart Brown. He started introducing play into his life, and it helped cure his anxiety. It also reminded Charlie why he loved his job in the first place: work was where he went to play.


You can learn more about Charlie here:

https://www.facebook.com/hoehnzone/
https://twitter.com/charliehoehn
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOf1LKVHi07DFw1LveTsa4Q


Here are the links to Charlie's books on Amazon:



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