April 20, 2025 • 45 mins
Pain is not merely a nuisance to be silenced—it's your body's sophisticated alarm system calling for attention. In this illuminating conversation with Dr. Scott J. Vrzal, we uncover how the location of your headaches serves as a roadmap to understanding deeper health imbalances throughout your body.
Dr. Vrzal, a chiropractor specializing in applied kinesiology, shares his groundbreaking approach to decoding seven distinct headache patterns and their connections to specific organ systems. Did you know that a right-sided headache typically indicates gallbladder dysfunction, while temple pain often relates to hormonal imbalances? These connections, featured in his new book "The Headache Advantage," offer powerful insights for anyone seeking relief beyond medication.
Our discussion ventures into surprising territory, revealing how TMJ issues often originate not in the jaw itself but from pelvic misalignment caused by chronic adrenal stress. We explore the counterintuitive truth that most acid reflux stems from too little stomach acid rather than too much, and how wheat consumption—particularly due to glyphosate contamination—compromises gallbladder function and triggers widespread inflammation.
Perhaps most valuable is Dr. Vrzal practical wisdom about using proteolytic enzymes as powerful natural anti-inflammatories that can dramatically accelerate healing after dental procedures or surgery. This approach not only addresses pain but supports your body's inherent healing mechanisms without blocking crucial liver pathways needed for recovery.
Whether you're dealing with persistent headaches, unexplained pain, or simply want to understand your body's signals more clearly, this episode offers a transformative perspective on health. As Dr. Vrzal reminds us, "Pain is intended to elicit change." By learning the language your body speaks, you gain the advantage of addressing root causes rather than merely silencing symptoms. Subscribe now to join us on this journey toward understanding the profound intelligence of your body's communication system.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Root of
the Matter.
I am your host, dr RachelCarver, today.
We are happy to have Dr ScottRizal with us today, dr V and a
doctor of chiropractic, doctorof applied kinesiology, amongst
some other things.
Maybe he talks a lot about themind-body connection.
(00:20):
He has a great new book aboutheadaches which I'm really
excited to dive into this topic.
So maybe Scott just jump rightin and let us know, like, what
brought you to chiropractic carein the first place?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I started young with the pursuit of health and
wellness.
I realized early on I wasdiagnosed hypoglycemic.
I was starting to work out inthe gym at that time, but
diagnosed hypoglycemic after Ipassed out at a large event with
a lot of people around, so Iquit eating sugar.
At 14, when I realized theconsequences of that, which is a
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lot of your dental listenersare going to celebrate right, I
wish I could bottle that soeverybody else could say, hey,
take this pill and you'll neverwant sugar again.
That was a big change for me.
So as I started modifying mydiet and realizing how what I
ate made a difference, I justgot more and more obsessed about
it.
And then I had my firstchiropractic experience.
(01:14):
That really four headaches.
My headaches at that time werea headband, whole head type of a
headache that I now understandwas a colon issue, but I got
adjusted for that and that kindof rocked my world.
I felt of a headache that I nowunderstand was a colon issue,
but I got adjusted for that andthat kind of rocked my world.
I felt completely different andempowered and I just I'm like I
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want this for me and I want itfor everybody else.
At that point I had done aself-interest test, trying to
find my way as a young lad, andchiropractic was actually one of
my highest scores because of myinterest in physical health and
nutritional health, and so, asI dove in, it was, far and away
for sure, my mission.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think it's interesting how we tend to think
of chiropractors as people whofocus on the back, but in all my
studies and really into thewhole cell core, which was first
two chiropractors who formedthat company that really
chiropractors are formed, thatcompany, that really
chiropractors so whole bodyhealth, you know, is that that
part of every chiropractor'straining, that you're learning
more how everything isinteracting?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're all a composite of our experiences, our life
experiences, right.
And so, yes, chiropractic isthe structure, function,
foundation and within thatthere's many avenues and
directions that it can go.
I personally took on a positionto bring on the leaders in the
profession during chiropracticcollege with the intent of
figuring out who was the mosteffective and most efficient,
(02:38):
and ultimately that led me toseveral techniques.
But applied kinesiology was theapproach.
Dr George Goodhart and hetalked to a lot of dentists as
well with his teaching, the lategreat Dr Goodhart we lost him a
few years ago so he brought inthe muscle-organ correlation
which brings in acupuncture andnutrition and emotional work,
puts it all together with thestructural function.
(02:59):
And it's applied kinesiologybecause it's the study of
movement.
And so every muscle he deemedhad organ associations, and most
of those are, becauseacupuncture meridians go right
through there, much like theteeth.
So then, if the person is havingtrouble raising their shoulder,
we look at the prime movers orthe muscles that are going to
initiate that activity.
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We realize, if your deltoid isnot functioning right, we need
to look at your lungs, or yoursupraspinatus is not initiating
the movement, we need to look atbrain function or brain
chemistry for you, and so itgives me a very profound tool
that makes it very simple tojust point to where it hurts, or
show me what you can't do, andI can tell you what the organ
association is.
And then we look at is thatorgan weak because of a
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structural problem, chiropractic, pt, that sort of stuff
chemical problem, meaningsomething they're eating or
something they're exposed to, oris it a non-emotional problem?
And so organs all have specificemotions associated with them
as well.
But it gives me a tool toprioritize and figure out where
a person needs help, and, andthat's ultimately how I was able
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to identify the set or whittleit down to seven specific
patterns of head pain, forexample.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
This is really exciting.
So, those of you who've beenwatching my podcast for a while,
we've talked about muscletesting before.
It's absolutely fascinating,right, greg?
And most of the time we have anache or a pain, right?
We take some ibuprofen and youknow whatever.
Yeah, well, I'm getting older,older, I'm supposed to have
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arthritis, but, and then we goto our conventional mds, right,
and then give steroids or otherstronger anti-inflammatories
without actually looking atwhat's the root.
I patient, when I'm seeingarthritis, I'm thinking some
kind of inflammation, right, andI put a lot of digestive
enzymes going.
Wow, huh, my, wow, my jointsfeel better.
Yeah, a lot of times you're notdigesting well, but again,
certain areas of the body.
So when we can understand thefoundation, the root, right,
(04:55):
hence my podcast Then we can sayokay, like you said, the
headband that was related to thecolon.
What can we do to ensure thatthe colon is happy and healthy?
I know I have this one tooththat bothers me every so often.
There's no infection, butthat's on my large intestine
meridian.
So then, starting my intestines, I'm like well, you know, it's
wintertime, it's getting drier.
(05:16):
I need to make sure I have goodhydration, good fiber, getting
my electrolytes, making sure I'mhaving good bowel movements and
, lo and behold, the tooth getsbetter.
So I think sometimes, doingconventional medicine and
dentistry, we just dive right inoh, there must be something
wrong with the tooth, let medrill it out and do all this,
and then how are you making abigger problem?
Right Now we're putting in, youknow, using all these chemicals
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and all these things, andthat's not really where the pain
is coming from.
So the whole idea abouthemorrhidin is that everything
is connected to something else.
So we really somebody like youlike me, we're sinking a little
deeper right.
What's the what's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, and he covered a lot of wonderful material there
already.
I'd love to lean into theenzyme issue a little bit and
maybe shine some light in aslightly different way on the
enzymes.
100% enzymes are necessary tohelp facilitate digestion.
Potentially less known tool orway to use enzymes is a natural
anti-inflammatory.
So if a person's having thatdental surgery, having surgery,
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the protocol is to first let'sshine light on the fact that
enzymes with food help us digestthe food and the protein of the
food.
If we take them away from foodor away from protein, then they
digest the inflammation and theprotein of the breakdown.
So we take them away from foodand they're a natural
anti-inflammatory.
They facilitate collagenhealing so that the fibers will
line up properly instead ofbeing the mishmash that creates
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the scarring, and they also helpfacilitate clotting.
So if somebody had gotten tothe end of their rope for
alternative medicine, nothingelse has worked.
Now we have to pull the tooth,so to speak.
Then you notice I'm reversingthe alternative medicine.
Take the proteolytic enzymesgood, high protein and cell core
has great ones.
We take that proteolytic enzymetypically about one or two,
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three times a day the day beforeand then my protocol is
typically as soon as you wake upfrom the surgery or as soon as
you're done with the surgery,you start popping one to two per
waking hour away from food,typically for about two weeks,
and so that will drasticallyfacilitate the healing process,
and there's countless studiesthat show that it literally cuts
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the healing time in half.
So, people, and typically rightabout that two-week mark when,
if you're taking too much,you'll get that burning, that
epigastric, that burning rightat the bottom of the sternum,
means okay, we're pushing theenzymes a little too hard, and
that would be the time that'susually right about two weeks.
Then that would be the time tostart backing down the enzymes a
little too hard, and that wouldbe the time and that's usually
right about two weeks.
Then that would be the time tostart backing down the enzymes
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to maybe two to three times aday as the inflammation comes
down, as the healing process hascompleted.
So that's a real nice tool forthis type of audience and
especially for the dentists andorthopedic surgeons I've shared
this with and every patient I'vehad that does this protocol and
then goes back to their doctor.
What are you doing?
How'd this happen?
How does it get better so fast?
And the reality is it works sowell that most of the time
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people don't even need painmedications.
And when we look atanti-inflammatories and pain
medications, most of theminhibit the sulfation pathway in
the liver and think what do weneed to heal and recover?
Is that chondroitin sulfateright?
If you have chronic joint pain,people are taking chondroitin
sulfate or glucosamine sulfate.
We have sulfur.
Those are all sulfur-basedregenerative tissues and that
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pathway in the liver gets shutdown by anti-inflammatories and
pain medications.
So if we can use proteolyticenzymes, that facilitates that
healing process and that's a lotof how we can minimize scar
tissue.
And literally, if you realizeoops, it's been a couple hours
you start getting that throbbing, pulsing pain around the area
wherever you had the surgery.
(08:53):
Typically take the enzymes awayfrom food and usually within 10
to 15 minutes the pain goes out.
It's like okay, there's peacein the world again.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Awesome and kind of taught me something new about
how using the enzymes aftersurgery.
But you make such an importantpoint and when I'm doing
extremes or minimal surgeries,we are using ozone and laser and
red light and Arnica.
Like, I totally agree with that.
When we take any kind of NSAIDibuprofen, tylenol you have to
process that through the liver,the liver.
(09:24):
9% of us is completelyoverworked these days because we
are bombarded with talk.
There are children today whohave fatty liver disease.
It is just it's interesting thatyou say that, right, you stop
the liver from being able to doall of its healing processes.
So you know, before my patient,the numbness even wears up, I'm
popping Arnica and I have themtake that twice a day for five
(09:44):
days.
I was just saying this to aconsult earlier today.
I can't remember the last timeI had to give somebody ibuprofen
, let alone an opioid, becauseall of these different therapies
are enhancing the body's way ofhealing versus these kind of
drugs, which are necessaryAbsolutely Sometimes we need
that.
Versus these kind of drugswhich are necessary Absolutely
(10:06):
Sometimes we need that.
If we can prepare the bodyproperly and keep stimulating
its way to heal, you do so muchbetter.
It's amazing.
So enzymes, that's a good tip.
I may add that to my littlelittle protocol, because that's
what we're doing when we'retaking out teeth we want to
encourage the collagen andeverything to grow in that bone
to fill in more quickly.
So yeah, that's super exciting.
(10:28):
So why don't you talk to us alittle bit about your new book
and talk to us about headaches?
We have a lot of patients whocome to us and think it's joint
related or clenching or whateverit is.
So I'm really fascinated tolearn about how the different
areas of the headaches areconnected to different areas of
the body.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
For sure we can go all day.
So, yes, we can talk aboutheadaches.
We can lean into the TMJaspirin kinesiologic
perspectives on TMJ as well.
Yes, ultimately I whittled itdown to seven different patterns
of headaches and the reason thebook is called the Headache
Advantage is for me, clinically,the advantage of the location
of head pain is it really tellsme the priority or the primary
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weakness for that person.
And so they may have a list ofdental problems and digestive
issues and hormonal issues andwe go through that whole list
and the location of thatheadache tells me this is where
we need to start.
So typically, if they have awhole head headache, as we
talked about, potentially foryour daughter or some of those
whole head headache, I know weneed to work on.
The colon is your primaryweakness, if you will.
(11:31):
So we need to look at what it'sgoing to take to heal and
facilitate the colon.
So those seven patterns are onthe right side of headache is a
gallbladder problem and rightside headache is gallbladder.
Left side of headache is astomach concern.
Frontal headache you can picturethe person's hand on the front
of the head.
That's production of cortisol,basically stress inhibiting
digestive function.
(11:51):
So in other words, think ulcer.
That's the frontal headache.
So those are very common withus go-getters.
And then we've got thebi-temporal headache.
That's typically estrogenmetabolism.
So temporal pain around theears on both sides, that's going
to be your hormonal headaches,ladies.
And then the back of the headheadache is thyroid concern.
That also comes back to enzymesoften because part of the way
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the thyroid activates metabolismis to activate digestive
enzymes.
That's part of how itstimulates metabolism.
So when that process iscompromised that'll set up the
tension headaches in the back.
And then the other one is whatI call the cyclops headache, or
the third eye type of a headache, and that's typically a
pituitary dysfunction.
I think I covered all sevenright One, two, three, four,
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five, six.
Did I miss one Whole head, the?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
temples.
I think you did yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I think I covered all seven.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, so fascinating.
Because again we're just like,oh, just take your Tylenol and
you'll be fine.
Okay, maybe it's like aBand-Aid, right.
It's just the thing about mostconventional pharmaceuticals is
that they suppress your symptoms, right, and that can create,
you know, make the problemdeeper and deeper and deeper,
which means it's harder andharder to uproot the cause.
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I remember my daughter.
She got a small little scrapeon her leg and she started
picking at it and ended upgetting a staph infection and I
was like, no, it's fine.
But it started to get biggerand I thought if I took her to
the er, they're just going togive her antibiotics and steroid
and I really don't want to pushthe infection deeper.
So, you know, I was like, allright, let me get out all my
tools and I got the ozonatedolive oil, I used ozone gas, I
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used a binder on it and, yes, ittook longer.
It took 10 days for it to gowhere.
With antibiotics maybe it wouldhave been gone in two, but she
healed and I felt better that Ididn't suppress, you
strengthened her body instead ofcrushing it, instead of
inhibiting its natural function.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
As a sidebar, oregano is the typical herb that I
would jump to for staff.
It tends to be a nice dryingherb and facilitates healing and
sulfation and gut biome.
So just for future reference.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yes, oh, that's fabulous.
She's had a couple of skinissues there.
So these little tidbits becausea lot of people are listening
to this are looking for more ofthe naturals or more of ways to
stimulate the body to heal.
So all of these, we've alreadygotten such a handful of good
tips already, so this isexciting.
So tell me your perspective onTMJ and what you know.
(14:17):
There's a lot of thought that alot of it is emotional, right,
let me just say it's in yourhead and just de-stress.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, so de-stress is part of it.
If it's bilateral TMJ oranother jaw problems on both
sides, think of the jaw asbasically a free-hanging
structure, right, and so it'ssupported by muscles, and so
ultimately in kinesiology welook at the foundation.
That foundation is the pelvis.
So if we build our house on therock and we have a solid
foundation in the pelvis, thenthe jaw hangs properly.
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Typically stress the chroniccortisol.
Ultimately it ends up beingadrenal insufficiency or stage
three or crashed adrenals.
That causes a posterior ilium,in other words a rotation of the
pelvis.
So then we're basically thefoundation is now crooked or on
the sand and the jaw will gettense and we end up tension in
the masseters and the pterygoidsand that sort of stuff.
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And so people work locally here, try to change the bite without
correcting the foundation, andso then we're correcting the
bite into pathology,unfortunately.
So we want to correct thefoundation, help them handle
stress.
Often clinically that meansglandulars I often find adrenal
glandulars to help heal,strengthen the tolerance of
stress.
Other physical symptoms thatwould go along with this
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temporal bilateral TMJ weakfoundation is going to be medial
knee weakness Because of themuscle weakness, the sartorius
muscle that goes from the frontof the pelvis to the inside of
the knee and the gracilis.
Those are both muscles thatwill get weak and compromised
when the adrenals are weak, andso that's what causes that
pelvic rotation.
So, in addition to that, wehave the medial knee weakness.
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So that's what causes thatpelvic rotation.
So, in addition to that, wehave the medial knee weakness,
we have plantar fasciitis, thecollapsing of the arch bunions,
weakness in the ankles.
Those are all physicalmanifestations of this chronic
adrenal symptom as well.
So if you have some of those,the reason I bring this kind of
stuff up is then oh, check,check, I have these.
Stress is the trigger for myadrenal, for my jaw, and that's
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how I try to lay it out in thebook too.
If you have a, we're talking inthis case we'll talk about
frontal headache.
If you, there's check, checkbox surveys, if you will, of
symptoms that might also beassociated with this, so that a
person can look at that and say,yep, that's me.
What's the solution?
These are the adrenalglandulars, or herbs like
rhodiola, like some of the thedifferent, like pan-exchanging
things that are going to helpfacilitate adrenal function,
work really well.
Conversely, for the frontalhead and I'll get back to the
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other unilateral jaw problems.
In a sec frontal headachestypically is going to be the
opposite type of an adrenal herbashwagandha.
That's better for theoverzealous cortisol response.
And to bring that up becauseashwagandha is getting a lot of
press these days and it's asuper popular herb.
It makes sense Most of us areover stress, especially this
time of year.
So that's the adrenal patternand putting things together
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there.
So if it's both sides of thejaw and we're having bite
problems sleep apnea that's alsotends to be an adrenal problem.
So if we're working on that forthe jaw, we want to help the
person handle the stress betterand then we can.
Maybe it means getting offcoffee.
Corn, unfortunately, is a foodtrigger that will cause cortisol
release.
That's something that a lot ofpeople are unaware.
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Corn will also cause ovariancysts, ladies, which could be a
bi-tempo headache.
So those are some of the foodtriggers we might want to
consider.
If a person's a I look at bloodtype, that does have a lot to do
with how the immune systemresponds.
O blood types really don't dowell on coffee.
So if a person's doing too muchcoffee, that can be the adrenal
stressor and set up the jawpain.
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A blood types, fortunately, canget away with a little bit more
coffee and be okay.
So that's the art of healthcareand taking advantage, getting
to the root of what's going on.
So that's the bilateral jaw.
If it's a right-sided jaw, thatgoes back to what I talk about,
as with the right-sidedheadache, that often is going to
be a gallbladder concern.
If all their quote jaw pain ison the right side, then we want
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to look at what's going on withthe gallbladder and compromising
, referring pain to the rightside of the head.
So, incidentally, your rightside sinus, right eye issues,
right headaches all of thattends to be a gallbladder
concern and I'll throw that outto you.
Which tooth would be agallbladder tooth in your world?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
so that's the canines .
I had like our point your teeththere.
Um, I'm like furiously takingnotes here.
This is like I'm learning greatstuff here.
This is amazing great uh, yeah,that's.
And also about temporal being anestrogen.
You know we tend to see moretmj in young females, so
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something about um, the estrogenalso affects, you know, the
joints and collagen more.
I think today's modern world,us women are are supposed to be
multitaskers, right, and itshould not be a problem.
There's and again with thehormone, I don't know if we tend
to our adrenals tend to getoverloaded so often.
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Yeah, like this is sointeresting and why I think it's
so important that you work witha healthcare team, right,
because you come, you're feelinghere, so you come to the
dentist with a healthcare team.
Right, because you come, you'refeeling here, so you come to
the dentist.
Fix my team.
Almost every single one of mypatients that have that I want
them to either see chiropractor,a cranial fascial technician.
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I just had a girl yesterday.
She thought that little ittybit here and I said, okay, yes,
the bites off a little bit, butwhat else is happening?
Do you have the shoulder andneck pain?
Also, how much stress do youhave in your life, like it?
You can't just fix one littleissue, right, one stone can be a
broader issue, so you have tolook at the body as a whole
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thing, and I think this is wherewe get tripped up in medicine
and dentistry, because there arespecialists in medicine now and
dentistry that nobody's reallyputting it together.
If you go see theendocrinologist, they're only
going to talk to you abouthormones.
Go see the heart doctor,they're going to only talk to
you about heart.
They don't remember how it allworks.
(20:06):
You and a lot of other, mycolleagues in chiropractic are
to me more meaningful.
Those are the people that Ireach out to if I'm having a
symptom or something like hey,help me run through a gamut of
how is everything related?
What are all my symptoms andhow relate to each other,
because I think, again, that'show we get well, right?
I like what you said.
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When you're doing muscletesting, you're finding what's
the priority.
Okay, you've got all thesesymptoms and all these issues,
but I use a lot of biofeedbackand you can get a lot of
information.
But what do you need to work onfirst?
Right?
Because if you don't go in theright order, that also messes up
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the body.
You can throw the nervoussystem out of balance, right?
I kind of think that nervoussystem is so important.
This is why chiropractor is soimportant.
When that spine and everythingis aligned, energy flows through
the body, and to me, health isall about having enough energy
and having it flow properly.
And chiropractor is huge, forwhen that spine is a little
crooked or a little off, youknow, the body has a harder time
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getting the energy to the areas.
And then, oh, we have a symptomI always think of when there's
pain somewhere, there issomething affecting the energy
flow.
So is it a toxin?
Is it a physical damage?
Is it emotional?
There's all these differentaspects to it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
We need to look at each individual thing in order
to get complete resolution, inmy opinion, For sure there's so
much to unpack in there, and somy mantra there is pain is
intended to elicit change right,and so if you the listener is
having pain, that is your bodyyelling.
It's your warning light on thedash of your car saying need
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fuel, low tire pressure.
So hopefully you're blessed tobe in a position where you have
a practitioner that can help youidentify the cause of that pain
.
But if they can't, you and Iare empowering these people to
keep build your team.
Find somebody that can help youdo that.
Listen to podcasts like thisthat are going to help give you
the information to find thoseanswers.
(22:06):
We need to be our own advocateand, as you mentioned so much of
quote medicine and theallopathic model is specializing
, having more credentials to belaser focused on just this one
area of the body and not look atwhat the body is really trying
to tell us.
So, 100%, that's our mission inlife is to help people
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understand, find the answers outthere.
It's your body telling you.
It's not something that youknow to just suppress and move
on and to circle back to finishup the left sided headaches or a
stomach issue.
That's typically low stomachacid.
So, again, if you have all theseother symptoms, the pectoral
muscle will tend to get weak.
Weakness on bench press if youlopsided trying to bench press,
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stomach acid is at its highestfirst thing in the morning.
So if you have troubleidedtrying to bench press, stomach
acid is at its highest firstthing in the morning.
So if you have troubledigesting your proteins when you
get started in the morning, orsluggish metabolism first thing
in the morning, those are signsof stomach, further signs of
stomach issues Left-sided eyeweakness or left sinus.
All those are signs, furthersigns that the stomach is the
priority.
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So I've got further questionsin the book and ultimately,
hopefully leading to thesolutions to help a person
understand if they need calciumor they need vitamin B1 or zinc
to help make stomach acid toeradicate that left-sided
stomach pain.
Then be empowered to find thosesolutions ultimately.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, that again just absolutely fascinating.
Speaking of that low stomachacid, you know most peeve that
when they have reflux or theseissues that they have too much
acid because obviously theysteal like a burning sensation.
But we know there's so muchscience to prove.
Now, 90% of the time it's toolittle acid.
I try to explain this to mypatients that that valve that
(23:50):
closes the stomach off from theesophagus is dependent on how
much acidity is in the stomachand if there is plenty of
acidity that valve can stayclosed.
If there's not enough, it canopen Other factors, other things
(24:12):
that can affect that valvedecades.
It's not trying to tell patientsthere's a reason.
My God or universe or source orwhatever you believe in,
created human beings to have avery acidic stomach.
Right, it's supposed to be thatway to digest our big proteins.
I think this is one of thereasons why a lot of people have
sensitivities to weed and dairy.
Those are very large heavyproteins, not to mention all the
(24:32):
other antibiotics and otherstuff in them.
But it's more.
If you don't have enough stomachacid, they're going to be
harder to digest.
And so when we shut off thatacid, I asked my patient all the
time how are you expected todigest any of your food?
And if you don't digest yourfood, how are you going to get
the nutrients you need for yourcells to function properly?
And I just kind of leave it atthat.
(24:54):
I mean, you don't have to behighly educated or a scientific
mind to be like, yeah, thatmakes sense.
On that low stomach acid, and alot of times, like you said,
it's you're missing certainminerals.
Right, and it's a catch-22,because if you don't have enough
stomach acid, you can't absorbthe zinc.
Right, if you don't have enoughzinc, you don't make the
stomach acid.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, and I agree completely.
And so a couple of things there.
Yeah, slow stomach.
We need the stomach acid toactivate calcium.
We probably should start thewhole preface of the
conversation with what are thelong-term consequences of
blocking that stomach acid,right?
(25:35):
So then we have those largeproteins that are not getting
broken down in the stomach.
Those get through the leaky gut, then it sets up arthritis and
all these monstrous nests.
But ever-growing list ofautoimmune conditions, that's,
these large proteins leakingthrough the intestinal lining,
not getting broken down properly.
We need the stomach acid tobreak down to activate calcium.
We need calcium to buffer thestomach.
So there's another one of thosevicious cycles, right?
And then you as a dentist,right, if they're blocking that
calcium, what's going on withthe teeth?
(25:57):
Right, then teeth are bones.
We need calcium to make strongbones, obviously.
So if we're blocking thatstomach acid, what's going to
happen to our ultimate dentalhygiene?
So the list is infinite of theconsequences.
So let's talk about what reallyis going on with that hiatal
hernia.
The heartburn that a person hasoften is a gallbladder problem.
(26:17):
So I find fixing helping,healing, correcting the
gallbladder function again isalso potentially going to
manifest as a right-sidedheadache.
The bile from the gallbladderhelps us digest fats.
The diaphragm is the mostaerobic muscle in the body, so
it needs those fats to befunctioning.
The diaphragm needs to expandand contract even while we're
sleeping, and so when thatdoesn't work well, then the
(26:40):
opening, the esophageal opening,gets too large and the stomach
slips up through, and so that'sthe symptoms.
Blocking stomach acid maymodulate those symptoms a little
bit.
But ultimately that's myquestion how have you been
feeling since you started yourPPI or your acid block or your
Tums?
Not so good.
I have less heartburn.
Yeah, so we want to fixgallbladder.
One of the main offenders forgallbladders, I found, was wheat
(27:01):
.
Early on.
Then I realized it's theglyphosate.
It's the roundup pesticide inthe wheat that inhibits bile
production.
Unfortunately it alsoobliterates the intestinal
lining.
But for what we're talkingabout here, we inhibit that bile
production and we don't digestfats well, and that sets up that
hiatal hernia.
So consider your foods, yourdiet.
Are you eating too much wheat,corn, soy or oats that is laden
(27:24):
with that Roundup, thatglyphosate, which is very
prolific in the US?
We travel to the Eastern Bloccountries, the European Union,
typically.
They don't use as muchglyphosate there.
They don't kill the grains withthose, like we do in America,
so we can get away with thegrains potentially there.
Or if you're a wine drinker,then get a European wine that
doesn't have the glyphosate.
(27:44):
Unfortunately, because it's soused around in America.
Most of the wines even aregoing to have glyphosate in them
.
So those are some triggers thatare going to compromise the
gallbladder, set upacetylcholine that is the
brain's modulation of thegallbladder that will go low
when the gallbladder isstruggling and acetylcholine
then would cause high bloodpressure, high cholesterol,
memory, recall issues.
So if we have some of theseconcerns, it could be as simple
(28:06):
as chilling on the wheat ortaking a beet-based product to
help the gallbladder, help usmake bile properly and reduce
the heartburn and prevent thingslike Alzheimer's.
Right, that's a big win.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You just put so much information in that those few
minutes that you just taught andlike my mind is spinning, I'm
like I can't write fast enough.
Awesome but super important, andI really I want to reiterate
what you said about the peoplethat I can't eat wheat, but I
agree with you.
I think the worst part is theglyphosate that is known to
inhibit like 600 differentenzymes in our bodies, and so
(28:43):
that is where we is becomingreally, really detrimental.
And, like you said, it'severywhere.
I don't even think reallyorganic exists in our country
anymore because it's in the air,it's in the water, like maybe
it has fewer pesticides, butit's truly organic.
I just don't think it'spossible anymore the way that
agricultural system is in the US.
But this is really important.
(29:03):
Gallbladder surgery is one ofthe most common elected
surgeries done in the US andit's completely avoidable.
Elected surgery is done in theUS and it's completely avoidable
.
I mean again, it's like why did, well, you know the universe
create human beings?
Why do we have a gallbladderExpendable then?
Why did we?
Why do we have it right?
It's important.
Certainly you can survive witha chimp gallbladder and a lot of
(29:24):
people have the surgery andthey feel better.
But now we are compromised.
Right, we are missing, you know, a key function to help us.
And, speaking of the teeth,right, fat-soluble vitamins the
D, the A, the E and the.
K are absolutely essential forhealthy teeth or good eyesight,
for bone structure, right, likewe need that.
And so if we can't digest orabsorb those fat-soluble
(29:46):
vitamins, and those fat-solublevitamins work with the minerals
like calcium and magnesium toput the calcium and the
magnesium and the phosphorus inthe proper hard tissue, like our
teeth and our bones, right?
So we have to have all of thesenutrients and this is one of
the reasons I think we have suchchronic disease in our country
today.
Our food we are overfed butundernourished, right?
(30:09):
Because with all of thepesticides and herbicides and
the antibiotics andda-da-da-da-da the food, the
soil's so deficient, the food isso deficient we are not getting
those basic nutrients anymore.
Because most of our food ishigh fructose, corn syrup and
glyphosate, you know, and all ofthis highly or ultra processed
food and that, like you said,hey, if you're having a
(30:31):
gallbladder, maybe we just stopeating wheat and corn, maybe,
for you know, a month and seewhat the difference is.
I mean, it's obviously easiersaid than done, but there's so
many alternatives out there.
We have such a fast pacedsociety now.
I used to love to cook evenjust 10 years ago, and now I
come home and I'm like I'm tired, you know let's get takeout
Right, and I'm like we reallyshouldn't, but I just I feel
(30:52):
tired.
So we've lost that art ofwanting to cook or teaching our
kids right there.
Home Ec doesn't exist in highschool anymore, you know we're
not teaching our kids, you know,maybe hopefully in health class
a little bit.
But you know things have reallychanged and everybody wants
that convenience, we want thatquick fix on everything, right.
So it's becomes becomeschallenging.
But if we maybe can create thisawareness, right, maybe you
(31:16):
know people can understand.
People don't want to feel, mostpeople and we don't want to
feel sick and tired.
So if they know, hey, maybe Ijust don't eat wheat.
That was the first experiment Idid when I was trying to heal
from my eczema.
I stopped eating wheat for fourweeks and I'd been on one
steroid cream before I kneweverything.
I'd been on all the creams thatdidn't really help that much.
(31:37):
Four weeks off of wheat and myhands cleared 90%.
Nice, I don't need to besticking all these terrible
immune modulating things on myskin.
I can just tweak my diet alittle bit.
But you know, just switchingthings up can, like you said, as
a kid you realize, man, I wishmy kids could be, could
understand that.
(31:57):
You know switching up the diet,which they know in their heads,
but it's again.
They're around all the badfoods and stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I'm hoping that groundwork is laid so you know
when they're a little bit olderthey'll understand that and go
back to eating the good, wholefoods.
I call that the Bruce paradigm.
I had a patient named Brucethat came to me every other week
and he was an optometrist withdry hands and every other week
I'd tell him the wheat iscausing your dry skin.
He had literally cracking onhis hands.
(32:28):
But I need to eat my sandwichfor lunch.
I'm like no, you don't Find analternative.
Literally five years we wentthrough this dialogue.
He finally cut out the wheat.
Oh, it seems like my hands gotbetter.
I'm like thanks forcontributing to my kid's college
fund.
Glad you finally got the point.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I know when I first saw muscle testing, I was very
interested in it.
It was my chiropractor actuallywho was, and then she was doing
it all and she was like, okay,you need X, y, z.
And I was kind of like, youknow, I wasn't, I kind of
believed it, but I wasn't onboard yet.
It took me a few years to belike, oh yeah, I wish I had been
to her back then and I couldn'tleave.
I wouldn't have myself deeperin the hole, you know.
(33:04):
But everybody kind of comes tothings in their own way and I
had to learn, you know, as as adoctor, a provider, a health
coach to learn how to step backa little bit and stop pushing.
You know I this is the worst asa mother, you know.
Of course my kids don't want tohear what I have to say push so
hard.
So I have had to learn over theyears how to be like hey,
here's what I know, you know,and take it or leave it,
(33:25):
whatever, I'm here to help youon your journey.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
And then they get that win and it inspires them to
listen.
And, okay, what can I do tofeel even better?
Right, right, I'd love to leanin.
You talked a little bit about,basically extrapolate, leaned
into the mental fatigue kind ofthing, because that comes back
to toxic metals and mercury is amassive one in that arena.
So just because I've recentlyenjoyed some benefit there on
the mental fatigue frontier, orbrain, we'll call it brain
(33:54):
fatigue ultimately, I know youcan't tell, but I lost a little
hair through my years and for methat has shown up as mercury
and fluoride.
So one of the most profoundthings I remember is most
consistent things I remember asa child is my mom making sure we
took our little blue fluoridetablet, my brother and I, all of
our youth and because thedentist told her, hey, they have
cavities.
At that time I was eatingdonuts for breakfast and dinner
(34:14):
and I had two cavities every sixmonths.
When I saw the dentist Gotloaded up with some mercury
amalgam fillings and tookfluoride every day and
ultimately in my 30s, startedrealizing man, what's going on
with my hair?
And I've been working to bindup that mercury and that
fluoride all since and recentlyI've found some tools.
I've used some things to youprobably talked about this on
(34:35):
the podcast, I would assume butthose old amalgam fillings that
fortunately are not used as muchanymore.
But for those of us that areolder to have those and they
vaporize every time we chew andthat mercury vapor tends to be
very neuro-specific and veryprone to hang out in the brain.
And so if a person tries todetoxify and do DMPS or EDTA to
(34:56):
bind up that mercury and getthat out, unfortunately a lot of
studies have shown that maytake it out of the blood and
they see a new blood test thatshows less mercury, hey, victory
.
But that mercury has often beendeposited in the brain at that
point and so it's a littletougher to get through, get out
of the brain.
But there's herbs and we can bea little bit more intentional.
(35:17):
I find lithium as a mineral isa nice mineral to help
facilitate liver detoxification,facilitate bringing the mercury
out of the brain tissues.
So lithium and think lithiumdeficiency that's hit a lot of
press with bipolarness and theconsequences of that or the
benefits of using that tostabilize mood I think a dentist
(35:37):
earlier on had the highestsuicide rate because they were
breathing the mercury all thetime.
So lithium is a good way tohelp facilitate that.
Molybdenum the mineral MOmolybdenum is another one that
helps facilitate the keypathways to get some of that
mercury out, and we also want.
So those are ways to bind upthe mercury.
And then there's some herbs andI recently started on a product
(36:00):
by Standard Process calledNeuro Regenex that works good
for concussions.
I'm an active cyclist and Ilanded on my head a few times.
So between that and the mercurytaking this Neuro Regenexx has
helped my brain and the profoundthing I noticed is when I get
home, that brain fatigue at theend of the day after working
with patients all day long, it'slike I'm done.
(36:21):
I want to hang my tongue outand sit on the couch as I've got
my brain working better.
It's been pretty profound whereI get home and I still want to
work.
I still want to promote thebook and get information out
there and share.
Just look at that brain fatigueand how long you can stay
focused to read a book or thatsort of thing.
Use that to be an earlyindicator of how functional the
brain is post-concussionpatients.
(36:44):
That's one of my metrics is howlong can you read before you
check out.
So we want to at least get tothat 20-minute mark.
Typically that's the tensioncycle anyway when they first get
a concussion.
So I read two sentences andthey're looking off to the sky.
So use brain fatigue as anearly indicator to keep that
functioning so we don't have togo down the ugly roads.
So that's the mercury aspect inthe brain.
(37:06):
And then the fluoride aspect.
Fluoride competes with iodine.
That highlights it willcompromise thyroid function.
So if we have fluoride, whichunfortunately is in the water
hopefully RFK is going to getsome of that out for us but that
will compromise thyroidfunction.
That can set up the tensionheadaches and the tension on the
back of the head.
Look at reducing fluoridatedtoothpaste in municipal waters
(37:26):
that have fluoride.
Unfortunately, one of the onlyways to really get the fluoride
out of municipal water isreverse osmosis, which tends to
take too many minerals out,which then could potentially
alkalize us.
I came to this as, personally, Ihad an RO system at my house
and I'm like, ooh, I'mdehydrated.
I downed a bunch of water andmy lips would get more chapped,
I'd feel more parched and thenI'd use my spring water at the
(37:48):
office.
I drink two ounces, oh, I'mrehydrated.
So that kind of got me on thatrabbit trail of looking at water
purification and so on.
So I've leaned into now lookingat RO systems to get all the
junk out.
But then we have toremineralize and re-energize
that water to keep thoseminerals in our bones, in our
teeth, to keep us alkaline, sothat we can keep the calcium in
(38:10):
our bones and not floatingaround plugging up the arteries
and so on.
So good fats.
To circle back to thegallbladder thing eating the
good omega-3s and so on keepsthat gallbladder pumping so that
we can keep minimizehyaluronias and right side of
headaches and keep the calciumin the bones.
But again, using water that'sclean and healthy doesn't have
that iodine which would havepotentially compromised the
(38:32):
thyroid.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, that's amazing.
I'm fortunate, where we live wedo not have fluoride in our
water supply, so that's, that'svery nice.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I was going to get you, try to inspire you to come
move to Southern California, butI guess not now.
Huh.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I don't think, so I'm staying away from.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
California.
I'll tell think so I'm stayingaway from California.
I'll tell you that you know.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
We're lucky where we are.
We've still got some goodfreedoms here, Nice.
But yeah, I reached out to thegovernor of New York, the mayor
of Albany, who wants tofluoridate the water, and this
was before a lawsuit came outproving where the federal judge
said, hey, there's anunreasonable risk of lower-eye
fluoridated water.
But I tried to present theevidence but I got back the line
(39:11):
.
It's one of the top 10 bestpublic health successes of all
time.
Such a party line.
And I was like, and not facereal science.
And you said you were takingfluoride as a kid but every time
you went you had two cavities.
So it's really not.
You know, it's not.
Fluor chloride doesn't exist innatural teeth, so why should we
put it there?
What we need are minerals,right.
(39:32):
So I'm trying to treat all mypatients if they are, you know,
more susceptible to decay.
I'm thinking what's going on inthe digestion, right?
What is the stress level?
Even kids can be stressed outand not make enough stomach acid
, right, and then not absorb theminerals and have allcerative
issue, create more of thereactive oxygen species which
changes the fluid flow directionin the teeth.
(39:54):
People don't think of teeth asan organ, but every single tooth
has an organ, has its own blood, its own lymph, its own nerve
supply and we need to treat itlike any other organ.
Right, we need to give it thenutrients.
The other thing people don'trealize is that teeth are
mineralizing and demineralizingall it's possible.
There are.
Some dentists were sometimestrained oh, you see that little
dark spot on the answer but webetter cut open the tooth.
(40:14):
Well, you know again, it's adynamic process.
Once you cut into a tooth, it'sforever.
We haven't figured out quitehow to replace the enamel.
I'm sure it'll come, but it'snot here yet.
So my philosophy is always okay, let's talk about diet.
I've recently created this newremineralizing paste.
I was listening to one of themore holistic organizations said
(40:38):
hey, you never have to drillagain.
I was so excited to listen tothis webinar and it was all
about silver, diamine, fluoride,and I was.
It was speechless.
I just I could not believe thatthey were talking about this.
And sure it stops the cavities,because fluoride is an
antibiotic, right, it kills thebacteria, but it also stains the
teeth black, which is not veryaesthetic.
(41:00):
What else?
What do we really need to stopcavities?
We really need minerals.
Right, we could use silver.
I don't, you gotta be careful,right, we could use silver.
You got to be careful, right?
I don't really like colloidalsilver anymore, but I have
created my own little paste.
I'm like all right, I've got acouple of patients who are
experimenting with this and seewhat happens.
Some patients get those whitelesions after braces.
Right, I don't want to have tocut into all of that ammo and
(41:20):
put plastic all over thesepeople's teeth.
Yeah, maybe plastic is betterthan the mercury amalgam, but it
is so.
I'm like I only want to put inthis foreign material if I
absolutely 100% have to, If I'vetried everything else and the
cavity is getting bigger,because the last thing I want is
somebody to need a root canaland more invasive dentistry.
But again, the body has anamazing inherent ability to heal
(41:42):
if we take away the burdens andgive it what it needs.
So you know, that's always kindof been my philosophy with that
there.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Tell the world, please.
Yeah, I hope everybody got whatyou just said, that teeth are
dynamic.
They're a tooth and for me as aclinician, is it teeth that is
a problem?
Is it a tooth?
If it's a tooth, we need tolook at the organ association
that's compromising that tooth.
Heal the organ and the toothpain will go away when we do the
(42:13):
right thing.
How many times are you thedentist?
There's nothing wrong with theroot.
There's nothing wrong with thetooth.
I don't know what.
They leave people with noanswers at that point.
So learn from what the body'strying to tell you.
It's a motivator.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
We're coming up to end here.
Is there anything you've givenus so much information?
Is there anything else you'dreally like on your heart,
that's in your head, that youreally want to share with the
audience, for us today?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Just to capitalize on what we've both been preaching
all along.
Pain is intended to elicitchange.
Learn from what your body'strying to tell you Whether,
hopefully, the practitioneryou're associated with has the
answers.
If not, keep searching to findthose answers.
Bring it back to thepractitioner so maybe they can
(42:55):
help the next person that has it.
We're all a community.
Let's grow and learn together.
Stop masking the problem, stopband-aiding, covering things up,
and learn from what our bodiesare trying to tell us.
Praise you, doc, for sharingthis and getting this
information out.
It's working.
You've drawn a great reach in ashort amount of time, so people
are eating it up.
They want to get to the root.
(43:16):
That's fantastic, so thank youfor what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Thank you, and so tell us about your book and like
how we can connect with you ifwe want to learn more.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Thank you.
Last name is Virgil V, as inVictor R-Z-A-L, so I'm on most
of your social media platforms.
If you can spell the name, youcan find me.
The book is the HeadacheAdvantage Again, advantage
because we can learn from whatthe location of the head pain.
So headache, no, the, butheadacheadvantagecom is the
website and the book is onAmazon.
(43:46):
Fortunately it's there in thehardcover, softcover, electronic
version and soon to be releasedin audio.
I listen to books while Iexercise and that's how I can
get 15, 20 books a year digested.
Yeah, I'll try to make itavailable for you in all the
different formats.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well, I'm definitely.
I can't wait to get a copy ofthat, because that's how I like
to learn too audio, you know,listening to the podcast and
reading.
So I'm excited to dive a littlebit deeper and learn all these
connections.
So I so appreciate your time tome.
You know I often have people onsubjects that I kind of know a
lot about, and I reallyappreciate how much you taught
me today so that I can, like yousaid, how I can bring that to
(44:24):
my patients and, you know, onthe podcast, help, you know,
teach other people, becausethat's what it's all about
really.
It's about working together.
It's about partnering with ourpatients and just helping the
world to be a better place.
So thank you so much for takingtime today to share all your
knowledge and wisdom with us,and I hope we keep in touch.
I look forward to learning morefrom you.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Let's do more, appreciate what you're doing.
Thanks, dr Carver.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Thanks everybody.
I hope you enjoyed this episode.
Again, check out Dr Rizal'sbook the Headache Advantage, and
we'll see you guys all on thenext episode.
Hello, I'm Dr Rachel Carver, aboard-certified naturopathic
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Welcome everybody to another episode of the Root of
the Matter.
I am your host, dr RachelCarver, today.
We are happy to have Dr ScottRizal with us today, dr V and a
doctor of chiropractic, doctorof applied kinesiology, amongst
some other things.
Maybe he talks a lot about themind-body connection.
(00:20):
He has a great new book aboutheadaches which I'm really
excited to dive into this topic.
So maybe Scott just jump rightin and let us know, like, what
brought you to chiropractic carein the first place?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I started young with the pursuit of health and
wellness.
I realized early on I wasdiagnosed hypoglycemic.
I was starting to work out inthe gym at that time, but
diagnosed hypoglycemic after Ipassed out at a large event with
a lot of people around, so Iquit eating sugar.
At 14, when I realized theconsequences of that, which is a
(00:53):
lot of your dental listenersare going to celebrate right, I
wish I could bottle that soeverybody else could say, hey,
take this pill and you'll neverwant sugar again.
That was a big change for me.
So as I started modifying mydiet and realizing how what I
ate made a difference, I justgot more and more obsessed about
it.
And then I had my firstchiropractic experience.
(01:14):
That really four headaches.
My headaches at that time werea headband, whole head type of a
headache that I now understandwas a colon issue, but I got
adjusted for that and that kindof rocked my world.
I felt of a headache that I nowunderstand was a colon issue,
but I got adjusted for that andthat kind of rocked my world.
I felt completely different andempowered and I just I'm like I
(01:34):
want this for me and I want itfor everybody else.
At that point I had done aself-interest test, trying to
find my way as a young lad, andchiropractic was actually one of
my highest scores because of myinterest in physical health and
nutritional health, and so, asI dove in, it was, far and away
for sure, my mission.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think it's interesting how we tend to think
of chiropractors as people whofocus on the back, but in all my
studies and really into thewhole cell core, which was first
two chiropractors who formedthat company that really
chiropractors are formed, thatcompany, that really
chiropractors so whole bodyhealth, you know, is that that
part of every chiropractor'straining, that you're learning
more how everything isinteracting?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're all a composite of our experiences, our life
experiences, right.
And so, yes, chiropractic isthe structure, function,
foundation and within thatthere's many avenues and
directions that it can go.
I personally took on a positionto bring on the leaders in the
profession during chiropracticcollege with the intent of
figuring out who was the mosteffective and most efficient,
(02:38):
and ultimately that led me toseveral techniques.
But applied kinesiology was theapproach.
Dr George Goodhart and hetalked to a lot of dentists as
well with his teaching, the lategreat Dr Goodhart we lost him a
few years ago so he brought inthe muscle-organ correlation
which brings in acupuncture andnutrition and emotional work,
puts it all together with thestructural function.
(02:59):
And it's applied kinesiologybecause it's the study of
movement.
And so every muscle he deemedhad organ associations, and most
of those are, becauseacupuncture meridians go right
through there, much like theteeth.
So then, if the person is havingtrouble raising their shoulder,
we look at the prime movers orthe muscles that are going to
initiate that activity.
(03:19):
We realize, if your deltoid isnot functioning right, we need
to look at your lungs, or yoursupraspinatus is not initiating
the movement, we need to look atbrain function or brain
chemistry for you, and so itgives me a very profound tool
that makes it very simple tojust point to where it hurts, or
show me what you can't do, andI can tell you what the organ
association is.
And then we look at is thatorgan weak because of a
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structural problem, chiropractic, pt, that sort of stuff
chemical problem, meaningsomething they're eating or
something they're exposed to, oris it a non-emotional problem?
And so organs all have specificemotions associated with them
as well.
But it gives me a tool toprioritize and figure out where
a person needs help, and, andthat's ultimately how I was able
(04:04):
to identify the set or whittleit down to seven specific
patterns of head pain, forexample.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
This is really exciting.
So, those of you who've beenwatching my podcast for a while,
we've talked about muscletesting before.
It's absolutely fascinating,right, greg?
And most of the time we have anache or a pain, right?
We take some ibuprofen and youknow whatever.
Yeah, well, I'm getting older,older, I'm supposed to have
(04:31):
arthritis, but, and then we goto our conventional mds, right,
and then give steroids or otherstronger anti-inflammatories
without actually looking atwhat's the root.
I patient, when I'm seeingarthritis, I'm thinking some
kind of inflammation, right, andI put a lot of digestive
enzymes going.
Wow, huh, my, wow, my jointsfeel better.
Yeah, a lot of times you're notdigesting well, but again,
certain areas of the body.
So when we can understand thefoundation, the root, right,
(04:55):
hence my podcast Then we can sayokay, like you said, the
headband that was related to thecolon.
What can we do to ensure thatthe colon is happy and healthy?
I know I have this one tooththat bothers me every so often.
There's no infection, butthat's on my large intestine
meridian.
So then, starting my intestines, I'm like well, you know, it's
wintertime, it's getting drier.
(05:16):
I need to make sure I have goodhydration, good fiber, getting
my electrolytes, making sure I'mhaving good bowel movements and
, lo and behold, the tooth getsbetter.
So I think sometimes, doingconventional medicine and
dentistry, we just dive right inoh, there must be something
wrong with the tooth, let medrill it out and do all this,
and then how are you making abigger problem?
Right Now we're putting in, youknow, using all these chemicals
(05:38):
and all these things, andthat's not really where the pain
is coming from.
So the whole idea abouthemorrhidin is that everything
is connected to something else.
So we really somebody like youlike me, we're sinking a little
deeper right.
What's the what's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, and he covered a lot of wonderful material there
already.
I'd love to lean into theenzyme issue a little bit and
maybe shine some light in aslightly different way on the
enzymes.
100% enzymes are necessary tohelp facilitate digestion.
Potentially less known tool orway to use enzymes is a natural
anti-inflammatory.
So if a person's having thatdental surgery, having surgery,
(06:16):
the protocol is to first let'sshine light on the fact that
enzymes with food help us digestthe food and the protein of the
food.
If we take them away from foodor away from protein, then they
digest the inflammation and theprotein of the breakdown.
So we take them away from foodand they're a natural
anti-inflammatory.
They facilitate collagenhealing so that the fibers will
line up properly instead ofbeing the mishmash that creates
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the scarring, and they also helpfacilitate clotting.
So if somebody had gotten tothe end of their rope for
alternative medicine, nothingelse has worked.
Now we have to pull the tooth,so to speak.
Then you notice I'm reversingthe alternative medicine.
Take the proteolytic enzymesgood, high protein and cell core
has great ones.
We take that proteolytic enzymetypically about one or two,
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three times a day the day beforeand then my protocol is
typically as soon as you wake upfrom the surgery or as soon as
you're done with the surgery,you start popping one to two per
waking hour away from food,typically for about two weeks,
and so that will drasticallyfacilitate the healing process,
and there's countless studiesthat show that it literally cuts
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the healing time in half.
So, people, and typically rightabout that two-week mark when,
if you're taking too much,you'll get that burning, that
epigastric, that burning rightat the bottom of the sternum,
means okay, we're pushing theenzymes a little too hard, and
that would be the time that'susually right about two weeks.
Then that would be the time tostart backing down the enzymes a
little too hard, and that wouldbe the time and that's usually
right about two weeks.
Then that would be the time tostart backing down the enzymes
(07:50):
to maybe two to three times aday as the inflammation comes
down, as the healing process hascompleted.
So that's a real nice tool forthis type of audience and
especially for the dentists andorthopedic surgeons I've shared
this with and every patient I'vehad that does this protocol and
then goes back to their doctor.
What are you doing?
How'd this happen?
How does it get better so fast?
And the reality is it works sowell that most of the time
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people don't even need painmedications.
And when we look atanti-inflammatories and pain
medications, most of theminhibit the sulfation pathway in
the liver and think what do weneed to heal and recover?
Is that chondroitin sulfateright?
If you have chronic joint pain,people are taking chondroitin
sulfate or glucosamine sulfate.
We have sulfur.
Those are all sulfur-basedregenerative tissues and that
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pathway in the liver gets shutdown by anti-inflammatories and
pain medications.
So if we can use proteolyticenzymes, that facilitates that
healing process and that's a lotof how we can minimize scar
tissue.
And literally, if you realizeoops, it's been a couple hours
you start getting that throbbing, pulsing pain around the area
wherever you had the surgery.
(08:53):
Typically take the enzymes awayfrom food and usually within 10
to 15 minutes the pain goes out.
It's like okay, there's peacein the world again.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Awesome and kind of taught me something new about
how using the enzymes aftersurgery.
But you make such an importantpoint and when I'm doing
extremes or minimal surgeries,we are using ozone and laser and
red light and Arnica.
Like, I totally agree with that.
When we take any kind of NSAIDibuprofen, tylenol you have to
process that through the liver,the liver.
(09:24):
9% of us is completelyoverworked these days because we
are bombarded with talk.
There are children today whohave fatty liver disease.
It is just it's interesting thatyou say that, right, you stop
the liver from being able to doall of its healing processes.
So you know, before my patient,the numbness even wears up, I'm
popping Arnica and I have themtake that twice a day for five
(09:44):
days.
I was just saying this to aconsult earlier today.
I can't remember the last timeI had to give somebody ibuprofen
, let alone an opioid, becauseall of these different therapies
are enhancing the body's way ofhealing versus these kind of
drugs, which are necessaryAbsolutely Sometimes we need
that.
Versus these kind of drugswhich are necessary Absolutely
(10:06):
Sometimes we need that.
If we can prepare the bodyproperly and keep stimulating
its way to heal, you do so muchbetter.
It's amazing.
So enzymes, that's a good tip.
I may add that to my littlelittle protocol, because that's
what we're doing when we'retaking out teeth we want to
encourage the collagen andeverything to grow in that bone
to fill in more quickly.
So yeah, that's super exciting.
(10:28):
So why don't you talk to us alittle bit about your new book
and talk to us about headaches?
We have a lot of patients whocome to us and think it's joint
related or clenching or whateverit is.
So I'm really fascinated tolearn about how the different
areas of the headaches areconnected to different areas of
the body.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
For sure we can go all day.
So, yes, we can talk aboutheadaches.
We can lean into the TMJaspirin kinesiologic
perspectives on TMJ as well.
Yes, ultimately I whittled itdown to seven different patterns
of headaches and the reason thebook is called the Headache
Advantage is for me, clinically,the advantage of the location
of head pain is it really tellsme the priority or the primary
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weakness for that person.
And so they may have a list ofdental problems and digestive
issues and hormonal issues andwe go through that whole list
and the location of thatheadache tells me this is where
we need to start.
So typically, if they have awhole head headache, as we
talked about, potentially foryour daughter or some of those
whole head headache, I know weneed to work on.
The colon is your primaryweakness, if you will.
(11:31):
So we need to look at what it'sgoing to take to heal and
facilitate the colon.
So those seven patterns are onthe right side of headache is a
gallbladder problem and rightside headache is gallbladder.
Left side of headache is astomach concern.
Frontal headache you can picturethe person's hand on the front
of the head.
That's production of cortisol,basically stress inhibiting
digestive function.
(11:51):
So in other words, think ulcer.
That's the frontal headache.
So those are very common withus go-getters.
And then we've got thebi-temporal headache.
That's typically estrogenmetabolism.
So temporal pain around theears on both sides, that's going
to be your hormonal headaches,ladies.
And then the back of the headheadache is thyroid concern.
That also comes back to enzymesoften because part of the way
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the thyroid activates metabolismis to activate digestive
enzymes.
That's part of how itstimulates metabolism.
So when that process iscompromised that'll set up the
tension headaches in the back.
And then the other one is whatI call the cyclops headache, or
the third eye type of a headache, and that's typically a
pituitary dysfunction.
I think I covered all sevenright One, two, three, four,
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five, six.
Did I miss one Whole head, the?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
temples.
I think you did yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I think I covered all seven.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, so fascinating.
Because again we're just like,oh, just take your Tylenol and
you'll be fine.
Okay, maybe it's like aBand-Aid, right.
It's just the thing about mostconventional pharmaceuticals is
that they suppress your symptoms, right, and that can create,
you know, make the problemdeeper and deeper and deeper,
which means it's harder andharder to uproot the cause.
(13:06):
I remember my daughter.
She got a small little scrapeon her leg and she started
picking at it and ended upgetting a staph infection and I
was like, no, it's fine.
But it started to get biggerand I thought if I took her to
the er, they're just going togive her antibiotics and steroid
and I really don't want to pushthe infection deeper.
So, you know, I was like, allright, let me get out all my
tools and I got the ozonatedolive oil, I used ozone gas, I
(13:27):
used a binder on it and, yes, ittook longer.
It took 10 days for it to gowhere.
With antibiotics maybe it wouldhave been gone in two, but she
healed and I felt better that Ididn't suppress, you
strengthened her body instead ofcrushing it, instead of
inhibiting its natural function.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
As a sidebar, oregano is the typical herb that I
would jump to for staff.
It tends to be a nice dryingherb and facilitates healing and
sulfation and gut biome.
So just for future reference.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yes, oh, that's fabulous.
She's had a couple of skinissues there.
So these little tidbits becausea lot of people are listening
to this are looking for more ofthe naturals or more of ways to
stimulate the body to heal.
So all of these, we've alreadygotten such a handful of good
tips already, so this isexciting.
So tell me your perspective onTMJ and what you know.
(14:17):
There's a lot of thought that alot of it is emotional, right,
let me just say it's in yourhead and just de-stress.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, so de-stress is part of it.
If it's bilateral TMJ oranother jaw problems on both
sides, think of the jaw asbasically a free-hanging
structure, right, and so it'ssupported by muscles, and so
ultimately in kinesiology welook at the foundation.
That foundation is the pelvis.
So if we build our house on therock and we have a solid
foundation in the pelvis, thenthe jaw hangs properly.
(14:45):
Typically stress the chroniccortisol.
Ultimately it ends up beingadrenal insufficiency or stage
three or crashed adrenals.
That causes a posterior ilium,in other words a rotation of the
pelvis.
So then we're basically thefoundation is now crooked or on
the sand and the jaw will gettense and we end up tension in
the masseters and the pterygoidsand that sort of stuff.
(15:06):
And so people work locally here, try to change the bite without
correcting the foundation, andso then we're correcting the
bite into pathology,unfortunately.
So we want to correct thefoundation, help them handle
stress.
Often clinically that meansglandulars I often find adrenal
glandulars to help heal,strengthen the tolerance of
stress.
Other physical symptoms thatwould go along with this
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temporal bilateral TMJ weakfoundation is going to be medial
knee weakness Because of themuscle weakness, the sartorius
muscle that goes from the frontof the pelvis to the inside of
the knee and the gracilis.
Those are both muscles thatwill get weak and compromised
when the adrenals are weak, andso that's what causes that
pelvic rotation.
So, in addition to that, wehave the medial knee weakness.
(15:51):
So that's what causes thatpelvic rotation.
So, in addition to that, wehave the medial knee weakness,
we have plantar fasciitis, thecollapsing of the arch bunions,
weakness in the ankles.
Those are all physicalmanifestations of this chronic
adrenal symptom as well.
So if you have some of those,the reason I bring this kind of
stuff up is then oh, check,check, I have these.
Stress is the trigger for myadrenal, for my jaw, and that's
(16:15):
how I try to lay it out in thebook too.
If you have a, we're talking inthis case we'll talk about
frontal headache.
If you, there's check, checkbox surveys, if you will, of
symptoms that might also beassociated with this, so that a
person can look at that and say,yep, that's me.
What's the solution?
These are the adrenalglandulars, or herbs like
rhodiola, like some of the thedifferent, like pan-exchanging
things that are going to helpfacilitate adrenal function,
work really well.
Conversely, for the frontalhead and I'll get back to the
(16:37):
other unilateral jaw problems.
In a sec frontal headachestypically is going to be the
opposite type of an adrenal herbashwagandha.
That's better for theoverzealous cortisol response.
And to bring that up becauseashwagandha is getting a lot of
press these days and it's asuper popular herb.
It makes sense Most of us areover stress, especially this
time of year.
So that's the adrenal patternand putting things together
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there.
So if it's both sides of thejaw and we're having bite
problems sleep apnea that's alsotends to be an adrenal problem.
So if we're working on that forthe jaw, we want to help the
person handle the stress betterand then we can.
Maybe it means getting offcoffee.
Corn, unfortunately, is a foodtrigger that will cause cortisol
release.
That's something that a lot ofpeople are unaware.
(17:20):
Corn will also cause ovariancysts, ladies, which could be a
bi-tempo headache.
So those are some of the foodtriggers we might want to
consider.
If a person's a I look at bloodtype, that does have a lot to do
with how the immune systemresponds.
O blood types really don't dowell on coffee.
So if a person's doing too muchcoffee, that can be the adrenal
stressor and set up the jawpain.
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A blood types, fortunately, canget away with a little bit more
coffee and be okay.
So that's the art of healthcareand taking advantage, getting
to the root of what's going on.
So that's the bilateral jaw.
If it's a right-sided jaw, thatgoes back to what I talk about,
as with the right-sidedheadache, that often is going to
be a gallbladder concern.
If all their quote jaw pain ison the right side, then we want
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to look at what's going on withthe gallbladder and compromising
, referring pain to the rightside of the head.
So, incidentally, your rightside sinus, right eye issues,
right headaches all of thattends to be a gallbladder
concern and I'll throw that outto you.
Which tooth would be agallbladder tooth in your world?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
so that's the canines .
I had like our point your teeththere.
Um, I'm like furiously takingnotes here.
This is like I'm learning greatstuff here.
This is amazing great uh, yeah,that's.
And also about temporal being anestrogen.
You know we tend to see moretmj in young females, so
(18:43):
something about um, the estrogenalso affects, you know, the
joints and collagen more.
I think today's modern world,us women are are supposed to be
multitaskers, right, and itshould not be a problem.
There's and again with thehormone, I don't know if we tend
to our adrenals tend to getoverloaded so often.
(19:03):
Yeah, like this is sointeresting and why I think it's
so important that you work witha healthcare team, right,
because you come, you're feelinghere, so you come to the
dentist with a healthcare team.
Right, because you come, you'refeeling here, so you come to
the dentist.
Fix my team.
Almost every single one of mypatients that have that I want
them to either see chiropractor,a cranial fascial technician.
(19:24):
I just had a girl yesterday.
She thought that little ittybit here and I said, okay, yes,
the bites off a little bit, butwhat else is happening?
Do you have the shoulder andneck pain?
Also, how much stress do youhave in your life, like it?
You can't just fix one littleissue, right, one stone can be a
broader issue, so you have tolook at the body as a whole
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thing, and I think this is wherewe get tripped up in medicine
and dentistry, because there arespecialists in medicine now and
dentistry that nobody's reallyputting it together.
If you go see theendocrinologist, they're only
going to talk to you abouthormones.
Go see the heart doctor,they're going to only talk to
you about heart.
They don't remember how it allworks.
(20:06):
You and a lot of other, mycolleagues in chiropractic are
to me more meaningful.
Those are the people that Ireach out to if I'm having a
symptom or something like hey,help me run through a gamut of
how is everything related?
What are all my symptoms andhow relate to each other,
because I think, again, that'show we get well, right?
I like what you said.
(20:26):
When you're doing muscletesting, you're finding what's
the priority.
Okay, you've got all thesesymptoms and all these issues,
but I use a lot of biofeedbackand you can get a lot of
information.
But what do you need to work onfirst?
Right?
Because if you don't go in theright order, that also messes up
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the body.
You can throw the nervoussystem out of balance, right?
I kind of think that nervoussystem is so important.
This is why chiropractor is soimportant.
When that spine and everythingis aligned, energy flows through
the body, and to me, health isall about having enough energy
and having it flow properly.
And chiropractor is huge, forwhen that spine is a little
crooked or a little off, youknow, the body has a harder time
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getting the energy to the areas.
And then, oh, we have a symptomI always think of when there's
pain somewhere, there issomething affecting the energy
flow.
So is it a toxin?
Is it a physical damage?
Is it emotional?
There's all these differentaspects to it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
We need to look at each individual thing in order
to get complete resolution, inmy opinion, For sure there's so
much to unpack in there, and somy mantra there is pain is
intended to elicit change right,and so if you the listener is
having pain, that is your bodyyelling.
It's your warning light on thedash of your car saying need
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fuel, low tire pressure.
So hopefully you're blessed tobe in a position where you have
a practitioner that can help youidentify the cause of that pain
.
But if they can't, you and Iare empowering these people to
keep build your team.
Find somebody that can help youdo that.
Listen to podcasts like thisthat are going to help give you
the information to find thoseanswers.
(22:06):
We need to be our own advocateand, as you mentioned so much of
quote medicine and theallopathic model is specializing
, having more credentials to belaser focused on just this one
area of the body and not look atwhat the body is really trying
to tell us.
So, 100%, that's our mission inlife is to help people
(22:27):
understand, find the answers outthere.
It's your body telling you.
It's not something that youknow to just suppress and move
on and to circle back to finishup the left sided headaches or a
stomach issue.
That's typically low stomachacid.
So, again, if you have all theseother symptoms, the pectoral
muscle will tend to get weak.
Weakness on bench press if youlopsided trying to bench press,
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stomach acid is at its highestfirst thing in the morning.
So if you have troubleidedtrying to bench press, stomach
acid is at its highest firstthing in the morning.
So if you have troubledigesting your proteins when you
get started in the morning, orsluggish metabolism first thing
in the morning, those are signsof stomach, further signs of
stomach issues Left-sided eyeweakness or left sinus.
All those are signs, furthersigns that the stomach is the
priority.
(23:08):
So I've got further questionsin the book and ultimately,
hopefully leading to thesolutions to help a person
understand if they need calciumor they need vitamin B1 or zinc
to help make stomach acid toeradicate that left-sided
stomach pain.
Then be empowered to find thosesolutions ultimately.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, that again just absolutely fascinating.
Speaking of that low stomachacid, you know most peeve that
when they have reflux or theseissues that they have too much
acid because obviously theysteal like a burning sensation.
But we know there's so muchscience to prove.
Now, 90% of the time it's toolittle acid.
I try to explain this to mypatients that that valve that
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closes the stomach off from theesophagus is dependent on how
much acidity is in the stomachand if there is plenty of
acidity that valve can stayclosed.
If there's not enough, it canopen Other factors, other things
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that can affect that valvedecades.
It's not trying to tell patientsthere's a reason.
My God or universe or source orwhatever you believe in,
created human beings to have avery acidic stomach.
Right, it's supposed to be thatway to digest our big proteins.
I think this is one of thereasons why a lot of people have
sensitivities to weed and dairy.
Those are very large heavyproteins, not to mention all the
(24:32):
other antibiotics and otherstuff in them.
But it's more.
If you don't have enough stomachacid, they're going to be
harder to digest.
And so when we shut off thatacid, I asked my patient all the
time how are you expected todigest any of your food?
And if you don't digest yourfood, how are you going to get
the nutrients you need for yourcells to function properly?
And I just kind of leave it atthat.
(24:54):
I mean, you don't have to behighly educated or a scientific
mind to be like, yeah, thatmakes sense.
On that low stomach acid, and alot of times, like you said,
it's you're missing certainminerals.
Right, and it's a catch-22,because if you don't have enough
stomach acid, you can't absorbthe zinc.
Right, if you don't have enoughzinc, you don't make the
stomach acid.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, and I agree completely.
And so a couple of things there.
Yeah, slow stomach.
We need the stomach acid toactivate calcium.
We probably should start thewhole preface of the
conversation with what are thelong-term consequences of
blocking that stomach acid,right?
(25:35):
So then we have those largeproteins that are not getting
broken down in the stomach.
Those get through the leaky gut, then it sets up arthritis and
all these monstrous nests.
But ever-growing list ofautoimmune conditions, that's,
these large proteins leakingthrough the intestinal lining,
not getting broken down properly.
We need the stomach acid tobreak down to activate calcium.
We need calcium to buffer thestomach.
So there's another one of thosevicious cycles, right?
And then you as a dentist,right, if they're blocking that
calcium, what's going on withthe teeth?
(25:57):
Right, then teeth are bones.
We need calcium to make strongbones, obviously.
So if we're blocking thatstomach acid, what's going to
happen to our ultimate dentalhygiene?
So the list is infinite of theconsequences.
So let's talk about what reallyis going on with that hiatal
hernia.
The heartburn that a person hasoften is a gallbladder problem.
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So I find fixing helping,healing, correcting the
gallbladder function again isalso potentially going to
manifest as a right-sidedheadache.
The bile from the gallbladderhelps us digest fats.
The diaphragm is the mostaerobic muscle in the body, so
it needs those fats to befunctioning.
The diaphragm needs to expandand contract even while we're
sleeping, and so when thatdoesn't work well, then the
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opening, the esophageal opening,gets too large and the stomach
slips up through, and so that'sthe symptoms.
Blocking stomach acid maymodulate those symptoms a little
bit.
But ultimately that's myquestion how have you been
feeling since you started yourPPI or your acid block or your
Tums?
Not so good.
I have less heartburn.
Yeah, so we want to fixgallbladder.
One of the main offenders forgallbladders, I found, was wheat
(27:01):
.
Early on.
Then I realized it's theglyphosate.
It's the roundup pesticide inthe wheat that inhibits bile
production.
Unfortunately it alsoobliterates the intestinal
lining.
But for what we're talkingabout here, we inhibit that bile
production and we don't digestfats well, and that sets up that
hiatal hernia.
So consider your foods, yourdiet.
Are you eating too much wheat,corn, soy or oats that is laden
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with that Roundup, thatglyphosate, which is very
prolific in the US?
We travel to the Eastern Bloccountries, the European Union,
typically.
They don't use as muchglyphosate there.
They don't kill the grains withthose, like we do in America,
so we can get away with thegrains potentially there.
Or if you're a wine drinker,then get a European wine that
doesn't have the glyphosate.
(27:44):
Unfortunately, because it's soused around in America.
Most of the wines even aregoing to have glyphosate in them
.
So those are some triggers thatare going to compromise the
gallbladder, set upacetylcholine that is the
brain's modulation of thegallbladder that will go low
when the gallbladder isstruggling and acetylcholine
then would cause high bloodpressure, high cholesterol,
memory, recall issues.
So if we have some of theseconcerns, it could be as simple
(28:06):
as chilling on the wheat ortaking a beet-based product to
help the gallbladder, help usmake bile properly and reduce
the heartburn and prevent thingslike Alzheimer's.
Right, that's a big win.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You just put so much information in that those few
minutes that you just taught andlike my mind is spinning, I'm
like I can't write fast enough.
Awesome but super important, andI really I want to reiterate
what you said about the peoplethat I can't eat wheat, but I
agree with you.
I think the worst part is theglyphosate that is known to
inhibit like 600 differentenzymes in our bodies, and so
(28:43):
that is where we is becomingreally, really detrimental.
And, like you said, it'severywhere.
I don't even think reallyorganic exists in our country
anymore because it's in the air,it's in the water, like maybe
it has fewer pesticides, butit's truly organic.
I just don't think it'spossible anymore the way that
agricultural system is in the US.
But this is really important.
(29:03):
Gallbladder surgery is one ofthe most common elected
surgeries done in the US andit's completely avoidable.
Elected surgery is done in theUS and it's completely avoidable
.
I mean again, it's like why did, well, you know the universe
create human beings?
Why do we have a gallbladderExpendable then?
Why did we?
Why do we have it right?
It's important.
Certainly you can survive witha chimp gallbladder and a lot of
(29:24):
people have the surgery andthey feel better.
But now we are compromised.
Right, we are missing, you know, a key function to help us.
And, speaking of the teeth,right, fat-soluble vitamins the
D, the A, the E and the.
K are absolutely essential forhealthy teeth or good eyesight,
for bone structure, right, likewe need that.
And so if we can't digest orabsorb those fat-soluble
(29:46):
vitamins, and those fat-solublevitamins work with the minerals
like calcium and magnesium toput the calcium and the
magnesium and the phosphorus inthe proper hard tissue, like our
teeth and our bones, right?
So we have to have all of thesenutrients and this is one of
the reasons I think we have suchchronic disease in our country
today.
Our food we are overfed butundernourished, right?
(30:09):
Because with all of thepesticides and herbicides and
the antibiotics andda-da-da-da-da the food, the
soil's so deficient, the food isso deficient we are not getting
those basic nutrients anymore.
Because most of our food ishigh fructose, corn syrup and
glyphosate, you know, and all ofthis highly or ultra processed
food and that, like you said,hey, if you're having a
(30:31):
gallbladder, maybe we just stopeating wheat and corn, maybe,
for you know, a month and seewhat the difference is.
I mean, it's obviously easiersaid than done, but there's so
many alternatives out there.
We have such a fast pacedsociety now.
I used to love to cook evenjust 10 years ago, and now I
come home and I'm like I'm tired, you know let's get takeout
Right, and I'm like we reallyshouldn't, but I just I feel
(30:52):
tired.
So we've lost that art ofwanting to cook or teaching our
kids right there.
Home Ec doesn't exist in highschool anymore, you know we're
not teaching our kids, you know,maybe hopefully in health class
a little bit.
But you know things have reallychanged and everybody wants
that convenience, we want thatquick fix on everything, right.
So it's becomes becomeschallenging.
But if we maybe can create thisawareness, right, maybe you
(31:16):
know people can understand.
People don't want to feel, mostpeople and we don't want to
feel sick and tired.
So if they know, hey, maybe Ijust don't eat wheat.
That was the first experiment Idid when I was trying to heal
from my eczema.
I stopped eating wheat for fourweeks and I'd been on one
steroid cream before I kneweverything.
I'd been on all the creams thatdidn't really help that much.
(31:37):
Four weeks off of wheat and myhands cleared 90%.
Nice, I don't need to besticking all these terrible
immune modulating things on myskin.
I can just tweak my diet alittle bit.
But you know, just switchingthings up can, like you said, as
a kid you realize, man, I wishmy kids could be, could
understand that.
(31:57):
You know switching up the diet,which they know in their heads,
but it's again.
They're around all the badfoods and stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I'm hoping that groundwork is laid so you know
when they're a little bit olderthey'll understand that and go
back to eating the good, wholefoods.
I call that the Bruce paradigm.
I had a patient named Brucethat came to me every other week
and he was an optometrist withdry hands and every other week
I'd tell him the wheat iscausing your dry skin.
He had literally cracking onhis hands.
(32:28):
But I need to eat my sandwichfor lunch.
I'm like no, you don't Find analternative.
Literally five years we wentthrough this dialogue.
He finally cut out the wheat.
Oh, it seems like my hands gotbetter.
I'm like thanks forcontributing to my kid's college
fund.
Glad you finally got the point.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I know when I first saw muscle testing, I was very
interested in it.
It was my chiropractor actuallywho was, and then she was doing
it all and she was like, okay,you need X, y, z.
And I was kind of like, youknow, I wasn't, I kind of
believed it, but I wasn't onboard yet.
It took me a few years to belike, oh yeah, I wish I had been
to her back then and I couldn'tleave.
I wouldn't have myself deeperin the hole, you know.
(33:04):
But everybody kind of comes tothings in their own way and I
had to learn, you know, as as adoctor, a provider, a health
coach to learn how to step backa little bit and stop pushing.
You know I this is the worst asa mother, you know.
Of course my kids don't want tohear what I have to say push so
hard.
So I have had to learn over theyears how to be like hey,
here's what I know, you know,and take it or leave it,
(33:25):
whatever, I'm here to help youon your journey.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
And then they get that win and it inspires them to
listen.
And, okay, what can I do tofeel even better?
Right, right, I'd love to leanin.
You talked a little bit about,basically extrapolate, leaned
into the mental fatigue kind ofthing, because that comes back
to toxic metals and mercury is amassive one in that arena.
So just because I've recentlyenjoyed some benefit there on
the mental fatigue frontier, orbrain, we'll call it brain
(33:54):
fatigue ultimately, I know youcan't tell, but I lost a little
hair through my years and for methat has shown up as mercury
and fluoride.
So one of the most profoundthings I remember is most
consistent things I remember asa child is my mom making sure we
took our little blue fluoridetablet, my brother and I, all of
our youth and because thedentist told her, hey, they have
cavities.
At that time I was eatingdonuts for breakfast and dinner
(34:14):
and I had two cavities every sixmonths.
When I saw the dentist Gotloaded up with some mercury
amalgam fillings and tookfluoride every day and
ultimately in my 30s, startedrealizing man, what's going on
with my hair?
And I've been working to bindup that mercury and that
fluoride all since and recentlyI've found some tools.
I've used some things to youprobably talked about this on
(34:35):
the podcast, I would assume butthose old amalgam fillings that
fortunately are not used as muchanymore.
But for those of us that areolder to have those and they
vaporize every time we chew andthat mercury vapor tends to be
very neuro-specific and veryprone to hang out in the brain.
And so if a person tries todetoxify and do DMPS or EDTA to
(34:56):
bind up that mercury and getthat out, unfortunately a lot of
studies have shown that maytake it out of the blood and
they see a new blood test thatshows less mercury, hey, victory
.
But that mercury has often beendeposited in the brain at that
point and so it's a littletougher to get through, get out
of the brain.
But there's herbs and we can bea little bit more intentional.
(35:17):
I find lithium as a mineral isa nice mineral to help
facilitate liver detoxification,facilitate bringing the mercury
out of the brain tissues.
So lithium and think lithiumdeficiency that's hit a lot of
press with bipolarness and theconsequences of that or the
benefits of using that tostabilize mood I think a dentist
(35:37):
earlier on had the highestsuicide rate because they were
breathing the mercury all thetime.
So lithium is a good way tohelp facilitate that.
Molybdenum the mineral MOmolybdenum is another one that
helps facilitate the keypathways to get some of that
mercury out, and we also want.
So those are ways to bind upthe mercury.
And then there's some herbs andI recently started on a product
(36:00):
by Standard Process calledNeuro Regenex that works good
for concussions.
I'm an active cyclist and Ilanded on my head a few times.
So between that and the mercurytaking this Neuro Regenexx has
helped my brain and the profoundthing I noticed is when I get
home, that brain fatigue at theend of the day after working
with patients all day long, it'slike I'm done.
(36:21):
I want to hang my tongue outand sit on the couch as I've got
my brain working better.
It's been pretty profound whereI get home and I still want to
work.
I still want to promote thebook and get information out
there and share.
Just look at that brain fatigueand how long you can stay
focused to read a book or thatsort of thing.
Use that to be an earlyindicator of how functional the
brain is post-concussionpatients.
(36:44):
That's one of my metrics is howlong can you read before you
check out.
So we want to at least get tothat 20-minute mark.
Typically that's the tensioncycle anyway when they first get
a concussion.
So I read two sentences andthey're looking off to the sky.
So use brain fatigue as anearly indicator to keep that
functioning so we don't have togo down the ugly roads.
So that's the mercury aspect inthe brain.
(37:06):
And then the fluoride aspect.
Fluoride competes with iodine.
That highlights it willcompromise thyroid function.
So if we have fluoride, whichunfortunately is in the water
hopefully RFK is going to getsome of that out for us but that
will compromise thyroidfunction.
That can set up the tensionheadaches and the tension on the
back of the head.
Look at reducing fluoridatedtoothpaste in municipal waters
(37:26):
that have fluoride.
Unfortunately, one of the onlyways to really get the fluoride
out of municipal water isreverse osmosis, which tends to
take too many minerals out,which then could potentially
alkalize us.
I came to this as, personally, Ihad an RO system at my house
and I'm like, ooh, I'mdehydrated.
I downed a bunch of water andmy lips would get more chapped,
I'd feel more parched and thenI'd use my spring water at the
(37:48):
office.
I drink two ounces, oh, I'mrehydrated.
So that kind of got me on thatrabbit trail of looking at water
purification and so on.
So I've leaned into now lookingat RO systems to get all the
junk out.
But then we have toremineralize and re-energize
that water to keep thoseminerals in our bones, in our
teeth, to keep us alkaline, sothat we can keep the calcium in
(38:10):
our bones and not floatingaround plugging up the arteries
and so on.
So good fats.
To circle back to thegallbladder thing eating the
good omega-3s and so on keepsthat gallbladder pumping so that
we can keep minimizehyaluronias and right side of
headaches and keep the calciumin the bones.
But again, using water that'sclean and healthy doesn't have
that iodine which would havepotentially compromised the
(38:32):
thyroid.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, that's amazing.
I'm fortunate, where we live wedo not have fluoride in our
water supply, so that's, that'svery nice.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I was going to get you, try to inspire you to come
move to Southern California, butI guess not now.
Huh.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I don't think, so I'm staying away from.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
California.
I'll tell think so I'm stayingaway from California.
I'll tell you that you know.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
We're lucky where we are.
We've still got some goodfreedoms here, Nice.
But yeah, I reached out to thegovernor of New York, the mayor
of Albany, who wants tofluoridate the water, and this
was before a lawsuit came outproving where the federal judge
said, hey, there's anunreasonable risk of lower-eye
fluoridated water.
But I tried to present theevidence but I got back the line
(39:11):
.
It's one of the top 10 bestpublic health successes of all
time.
Such a party line.
And I was like, and not facereal science.
And you said you were takingfluoride as a kid but every time
you went you had two cavities.
So it's really not.
You know, it's not.
Fluor chloride doesn't exist innatural teeth, so why should we
put it there?
What we need are minerals,right.
(39:32):
So I'm trying to treat all mypatients if they are, you know,
more susceptible to decay.
I'm thinking what's going on inthe digestion, right?
What is the stress level?
Even kids can be stressed outand not make enough stomach acid
, right, and then not absorb theminerals and have allcerative
issue, create more of thereactive oxygen species which
changes the fluid flow directionin the teeth.
(39:54):
People don't think of teeth asan organ, but every single tooth
has an organ, has its own blood, its own lymph, its own nerve
supply and we need to treat itlike any other organ.
Right, we need to give it thenutrients.
The other thing people don'trealize is that teeth are
mineralizing and demineralizingall it's possible.
There are.
Some dentists were sometimestrained oh, you see that little
dark spot on the answer but webetter cut open the tooth.
(40:14):
Well, you know again, it's adynamic process.
Once you cut into a tooth, it'sforever.
We haven't figured out quitehow to replace the enamel.
I'm sure it'll come, but it'snot here yet.
So my philosophy is always okay, let's talk about diet.
I've recently created this newremineralizing paste.
I was listening to one of themore holistic organizations said
(40:38):
hey, you never have to drillagain.
I was so excited to listen tothis webinar and it was all
about silver, diamine, fluoride,and I was.
It was speechless.
I just I could not believe thatthey were talking about this.
And sure it stops the cavities,because fluoride is an
antibiotic, right, it kills thebacteria, but it also stains the
teeth black, which is not veryaesthetic.
(41:00):
What else?
What do we really need to stopcavities?
We really need minerals.
Right, we could use silver.
I don't, you gotta be careful,right, we could use silver.
You got to be careful, right?
I don't really like colloidalsilver anymore, but I have
created my own little paste.
I'm like all right, I've got acouple of patients who are
experimenting with this and seewhat happens.
Some patients get those whitelesions after braces.
Right, I don't want to have tocut into all of that ammo and
(41:20):
put plastic all over thesepeople's teeth.
Yeah, maybe plastic is betterthan the mercury amalgam, but it
is so.
I'm like I only want to put inthis foreign material if I
absolutely 100% have to, If I'vetried everything else and the
cavity is getting bigger,because the last thing I want is
somebody to need a root canaland more invasive dentistry.
But again, the body has anamazing inherent ability to heal
(41:42):
if we take away the burdens andgive it what it needs.
So you know, that's always kindof been my philosophy with that
there.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Tell the world, please.
Yeah, I hope everybody got whatyou just said, that teeth are
dynamic.
They're a tooth and for me as aclinician, is it teeth that is
a problem?
Is it a tooth?
If it's a tooth, we need tolook at the organ association
that's compromising that tooth.
Heal the organ and the toothpain will go away when we do the
(42:13):
right thing.
How many times are you thedentist?
There's nothing wrong with theroot.
There's nothing wrong with thetooth.
I don't know what.
They leave people with noanswers at that point.
So learn from what the body'strying to tell you.
It's a motivator.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
We're coming up to end here.
Is there anything you've givenus so much information?
Is there anything else you'dreally like on your heart,
that's in your head, that youreally want to share with the
audience, for us today?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Just to capitalize on what we've both been preaching
all along.
Pain is intended to elicitchange.
Learn from what your body'strying to tell you Whether,
hopefully, the practitioneryou're associated with has the
answers.
If not, keep searching to findthose answers.
Bring it back to thepractitioner so maybe they can
(42:55):
help the next person that has it.
We're all a community.
Let's grow and learn together.
Stop masking the problem, stopband-aiding, covering things up,
and learn from what our bodiesare trying to tell us.
Praise you, doc, for sharingthis and getting this
information out.
It's working.
You've drawn a great reach in ashort amount of time, so people
are eating it up.
They want to get to the root.
(43:16):
That's fantastic, so thank youfor what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Thank you, and so tell us about your book and like
how we can connect with you ifwe want to learn more.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Thank you.
Last name is Virgil V, as inVictor R-Z-A-L, so I'm on most
of your social media platforms.
If you can spell the name, youcan find me.
The book is the HeadacheAdvantage Again, advantage
because we can learn from whatthe location of the head pain.
So headache, no, the, butheadacheadvantagecom is the
website and the book is onAmazon.
(43:46):
Fortunately it's there in thehardcover, softcover, electronic
version and soon to be releasedin audio.
I listen to books while Iexercise and that's how I can
get 15, 20 books a year digested.
Yeah, I'll try to make itavailable for you in all the
different formats.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well, I'm definitely.
I can't wait to get a copy ofthat, because that's how I like
to learn too audio, you know,listening to the podcast and
reading.
So I'm excited to dive a littlebit deeper and learn all these
connections.
So I so appreciate your time tome.
You know I often have people onsubjects that I kind of know a
lot about, and I reallyappreciate how much you taught
me today so that I can, like yousaid, how I can bring that to
(44:24):
my patients and, you know, onthe podcast, help, you know,
teach other people, becausethat's what it's all about
really.
It's about working together.
It's about partnering with ourpatients and just helping the
world to be a better place.
So thank you so much for takingtime today to share all your
knowledge and wisdom with us,and I hope we keep in touch.
I look forward to learning morefrom you.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Let's do more, appreciate what you're doing.
Thanks, dr Carver.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Thanks everybody.
I hope you enjoyed this episode.
Again, check out Dr Rizal'sbook the Headache Advantage, and
we'll see you guys all on thenext episode.
Hello, I'm Dr Rachel Carver, aboard-certified naturopathic
biologic dentist and a certifiedhealth coach.
Did Rachel Carver, aboard-certified naturopathic
biologic dentist and a certifiedhealth coach?
Did you know that over 80% ofthe US population has some form
(45:11):
of gum disease?
Many of us don't even know thatwe have this source of chronic
infection and inflammation inour mouth that's been linked to
serious consequences like heartdisease, diabetes, stroke,
dementia, colon cancer, kidneydisease, even pregnancy
complications.
Would you like to learn how toreverse and prevent these
chronic, debilitating conditionswithout spending a lot of time
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Are you ready to get started?
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