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July 27, 2025 49 mins

The healing power of light exists beyond what we can see with our eyes. Our cells communicate constantly with photons, those tiny molecules of light that surround us daily. But what if we could harness this communication system to trigger healing throughout the body?

Meet Victoria Ahrensdorf, a 70-year-old practitioner of the Feldenkrais Method who looks decades younger and credits much of her vitality to an innovative technology. These quarter-sized wearable patches use your body's own heat to generate specific light frequencies that communicate directly with your cells, activating powerful healing responses without drugs or invasive procedures.

Victoria's journey with this technology began during a desperate moment. After eight weeks of debilitating COVID illness that left her bedridden and wondering if she might be dying, she tried her first patch. Within hours, her energy returned dramatically. Within days, she was able to drive sixteen hours to see her dying mother – something previously unimaginable in her weakened state.

The science behind these patches is fascinating. Developed initially for Navy SEALs seeking enhanced stamina during long missions, the technology works by elevating GHK copper peptides in the bloodstream. These peptides not only increase collagen production throughout the body but also activate our own stem cells – without injections or extractions. According to Victoria, this approach is six times more effective than PRP or stem cell injections.

Users report remarkable improvements across a spectrum of conditions: vision problems (including retinal issues deemed irreversible by conventional medicine), bone density, chronic pain, and even structural issues like scoliosis and kyphosis. The patches seem particularly effective for addressing the low energy states underlying many chronic conditions, including autism spectrum disorders and teenage stress.

What makes this approach so revolutionary is its simplicity. The patches require no charging, no special equipment, and can be used by anyone regardless of age, size, or species. They're typically worn for 12 hours daily, placed on acupuncture points for maximum effect. This "set it and forget it" approach provides continuous benefit throughout the day, unlike treatments requiring dedicated time and equipment.

Ready to experience how light technology might transform your health? Victoria welcomes conversations about how these patches might support your specific health needs and can guide you in selecting the right approach for your situation. Contact her through dgwisdomoflight.com and discover what happens when you harness the healing power of light.

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Dr. Carver (00:00):
Hello everybody, Welcome back to another episode
of the Root of the Matter.
I am your host, Dr RachaeleCarver, and today we're going to
talk about light.
You've heard me talk a lotabout this on the podcast how
important it is for us toreceive natural light, that in
fact, our cells communicate withphotons, which are little

(00:21):
molecules of light.
So today we have VictoriaAhrensdorf here, who is a
distributor of LifeWave lightpatches.
Welcome, Victoria, and thankyou for coming on and explaining
this really amazing technologywith us.
So tell us a little bit aboutyourself and what attracted you
to LifeWave, and then what is it?

Victoria (00:42):
Thank you so much, Dr .
Carver.
I'm really thrilled to be hereand be talking with you today,
and a little bit about myself isthat I actually live in Western
Massachusetts now since 1979,but I'm from the Midwest.
I'm a farm girl from EastCentral Iowa, and I began to be
interested in sign language whenI was at community college and
then moved to Maryland andpursued studying sign language

(01:05):
and became an interpreter.
But just as I was to graduatefrom my bachelor's degree I
discovered the Feldenkraismethod and then that brought me
into the whole holistic healtharena, which I was already in
personally but not yetprofessionally.
So I've been a teacher of theFeldenkrais Method since 1983.

(01:29):
And then also sorry to interruptwhat for those of you who don't
know what is that method?
So that method was developed bya physicist and engineer from
Israel, dr Moshe Feldenkrais,and he discovered that he could
teach himself how to walk betterwith knee pain, very serious
knee injuries, and began toshare it with other people.
And he'd been doing researchand then he just went this whole
other way, toward this very,very gentle method that helps

(01:52):
people to learn to move withmore efficiency and less effort
and less pain, and it's alearning.
It's somatic education.
It's not people like to lump usin the field of body work, but
it's somatic education.
So we call the sessions lessons, actually, because people are
learning subconsciously as wellas consciously, and it's very

(02:16):
exciting.
I discovered this in 1978, whenI was 23 years old and now I'm
70.
And the patching technologycame to me in 2020.
And I'll tell you more of thatstory, but I'll go back and how
this patching technology started.
Is this a good time to do that?
Absolutely Okay.

(02:36):
Before around 2000, late 90s,an inventor named David Schmidt
was helping the Department ofDefense solve problems, and so
he's a very clever man.
And then, at about 2000, theyasked him could he help the Navy
SEALs to have more energy forlong missions and he'd been

(02:59):
studying light and so hedeveloped this tiny patch, so
it's just a little bit biggerthan a quarter and when you take
off the backing that it's got acenter and that is a
crystalline lattice andnanotechnology in the best way
of nanotechnology and made ofamino acids again the

(03:20):
crystalline structure and sometable salt or not table salt,
some salt and sugar.
Then it sends light frequencies.
Somehow the heat of our bodyactivates that little patch and
then it sends very specificlight frequencies into the body
and so that our body we all knowthat our body can heal itself
when it's given the rightenvironment.

(03:40):
So actually both theFeldenkrais method gives an
environment to learn and thenthe body can heal itself better.
And the patches are so gentleit's not homeopathic but like
homeopathy.
This patching with lighttechnology and wearable light
technology and the Feldenkraismethod are all extremely gentle

(04:01):
and totally non-invasive,natural, no medications, no
injections.
So David developed this patchfor the Navy SEAL.
So they're basically thecontrol group for this patching
with light technology.
The sun when we're receivingthe sun rays, our body makes a
vitamin D.
So the sun isn't making vitaminD, but our body makes it right

(04:23):
with certain frequencies fromthe sun.
But with this patch it's givingus certain frequencies so that
we can elevate or experience theGHK copper peptide.
That's elevated in our bloodand then that peptide not only
increases collagen throughoutthe entire body, but it also
activates our own stem cells.
Without injections, withoutpills, getting stem cells pulled

(04:46):
out from your cells it'susually about as many people
need more stem cells.
The ones they're pulling outare not that clever or not that
abundant.
This is six times moreeffective than PRP or stem cell
injections.

Dr. Carver (05:02):
Victoria has the most beautiful skin.
She doesn't look like she has awrinkle on her face, like she
just is absolutely stunning atage 70.
So again, some more witness tothe power of everything that she
has done from a young age andunderstanding the body's ability
to heal itself.
I talk a ton on this podcast.

(05:24):
I love red light.
We use red light in thepractice.
I use that every day of myfaith.
I'm actually right now inMaryland doing a week long
vision training.
One of their things is you gotto use the red light.
I've been using it every day,but I can't, I don't take my
panel with me.
That's not very convenient andI do I did because I'm traveling
.
I did bring my little handheldred light, but again, I can only

(05:44):
hold it up for a certain amountof period of time, whereas when
you have a wearable patch, youare getting and they last 12
hours, or at least that's therecommended time is to wear them
.
So all day long you are gettingthat benefit of activation of
this copper peptide which isknown to regenerate, like you
said, stimulate stem cells to dowhat they need to do, because

(06:08):
that's right, like after I meanafter 25, our stem cells start
decreasing and then at 40, we'rereally diminishing.
So any help we can get justlike everything in our body,
right, so anything.
That's why I love homeopathy,as you mentioned, and all these
things, ozone these are allthings that help stimulate our

(06:29):
body's own healing mechanisms,which is why we don't have side
effects, right, which is whythese things can really be
helpful, but we do want to usethem over a long period of time.
I think you get the mostbenefit when you keep stacking
these things up on itself.
So we use these little patchesand with the technology they

(06:51):
recommend certain, so with theX39, which is their most common
one for energy and stamina theyhave you place it either like on
the back of your neck or rightbelow your belly button.
And why those two spots?

Victoria (07:05):
of your neck or right below your belly button, and
why those two spots?
Those two spots happen to bereally potent acupuncture points
, and I've been receivingacupuncture since I'm in my 20s,
but I've never learned it.
I don't have that kind of abrain, so I think this might be
called the governing vessel.
And then the points threefingers or so below the belly
button is also, so you couldhave more impact.
But you really can chase thepain with the patch.

(07:27):
You can put it anywhere youwant and it has really great
effects.
Most people just wear one patch,but you can wear a second one
and it will give like another30% benefit on top of the first
patch.
The neat thing, too, is you cantake off your patch after 12
hours and put it on a dog or acat or put it under the dog bed,
and they get the benefit.
But some people patch theiranimals directly as well.

(07:49):
Yeah, and I love red light too.
I have a few different redlight devices, but you're right,
you can only hold it so longwhen you put this patch on next
to your toothbrush and put it onand then take it off at night
when you're brushing your teethagain, like the cooker right.
You set it and forget it.

Dr. Carver (08:09):
Great, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Those are the two spots where,you know, in Ayurvedic tradition
Chinese I do a lot of qigong,and right on that lower abdomen
right, that's our dantian, whichis where we harbor most of the
energy in our body, but a lot ofus have low energy.

(08:29):
Enhancing the energy in thatspot is going to activate the
meridians throughout the wholebody.
So that's why they recommendthose two places.
And they do have other types ofpatches I don't know if you
want to briefly mention maybewhat some of those other ones
that you can use, that you canbiohack and we call it like

(08:51):
stacking right.
So you have the X39, which isyour main go-to patch, but let's
say you maybe need a littlehelp detoxing right.

Victoria (09:01):
So that would be the glutathione actually, yeah, yeah
, and I have one on my hand.
So when it's put here with thisacupuncture point, then it
helps the immune system and Ihaven't gotten sick in three
years, which I can go back towhen I started the patches and
how sick I was with COVID when Istarted.
And then there's a second stemcell patch, the X49, which

(09:22):
really helps with.
As we age, we start to losemuscle mass and again, I've been
using this technology.
Well, may 18th of 2025, I willhave used it for five years and
I did have more wrinkles.
I had a strong, deep wrinklehorizontally here and I had two
here, more more than I have now.

(09:42):
And the Eon is one of our mostimportant patches and this was
the top selling patch until thestem cell patch came out in 2018
.
So I'm jumping around with thetimeline.
David Schmidt developed thefirst patch, which was the
energy enhancer for the NavySEALs, and that's a two patch
system and there's 30 patches ineach sleeve.

(10:04):
And then, when 9-11 happened,the Department of Defense went
toward war and David wasthinking about what he was going
to do to support his family andhe decided to start a company
he had no intention to donetwork marketing, but later, as
he met one person throughanother and then met and was
introduced to Richard Quick, whowas the coach of the Stanford

(10:25):
swim team, he realized thatnetworking is so powerful and
it's really relationshipmarketing and we are the fastest
growing network marketingcompany in the world, because
when this came out in 2018, thecompany has grown massively
since, and I'll just say thatwe're in the top 25 companies
and we'll soon be the top 10because it's so effective and

(10:49):
it's not like anything we'veever known before.
So it's hard to say to acceptthe new technology for some
people.
I'm always really curious and Ilove to try new things and I've
loved to try good food sinceI'm 18 or so and I love to try
new things and I've loved to trygood food since I'm 18 or so
and I had some health problems.
I had a two-story fall as a12-year-old in a house fire and

(11:12):
my knees started swelling.
I didn't break anything,amazingly, but my knees started
swelling right at that time.
They were pulling liquid offthe knee water on the knee and
so I had some challenges andI've lost my ability to walk
many times since that time andregained it and lost it and
regained it, and the Feldenkraismethod has kept me out of a

(11:32):
wheelchair, so I can do verywell, considering the injuries
I've had and the age.
I will just jump now to whensomeone called me about this on
May 13th of 2020.
And she said can you talk?
I said no, I'm too weak, and Ihad been sick with COVID for
eight weeks.
At that point.
So, from mid-March of 2020,from a Tai Chi class, someone
had come whose wife was very illand he was ill also, and so I

(11:55):
had been taking care of myself.
It seemed like that was thebest bet at that time and living
alone.
So when this person called, shesaid can you talk?
I said no, I can't.
It was like seven at night and Iwas so weak.
She said can you listen?
And I said for a while, butthen I'm going to have to hang
up.
I don't know how long I canlisten.
That's how weak I was.
So I said I know I want toorder.

(12:15):
After she and a friend of ourstold me more and I got to ask a
lot of questions and I said Iknow I want to order, but I got
to go buy and so I put my orderin the next day, got the patches
, I had been told that my motherwas dying in two to six weeks,
a thousand miles away in Iowa,and I was way too ill to go
there.
But a friend had offered todrive me and I remember thinking

(12:37):
I don't know that she coulddrive me half an hour, let alone
16 hours.
So, anyway, so that comes backinto this story.
And so as soon as I put thefirst X39 patch on, I had a
brainstem injury, a bruisedbrainstem, for three years from
May of 2017.
And then COVID brain on top ofthat was just so odd for people
who've experienced it.

(12:57):
So as soon as I put the firstpatch on, it felt like all of a
sudden my brain became a houseand lights were turning on in
different rooms and this roomand that room, and I could
almost feel like, oh, now I feelmore clear here here.
So some of the first thingsthat people feel are more mental
clarity and more calm, and alsopeople gain more stamina and

(13:18):
strength and wounds heal muchfaster and people feel more
joyful too.
There's just like a wholeupliftment when our stem cells
are acting active, like marching, like an army in the body,
instead of laying around.
It's a totally differentexperience.
So most of us, when we startusing the X39, we never want to

(13:41):
stop, because why would we not?
We only want to feel the bestwe can feel, right?
I?

Dr. Carver (13:46):
think, the big crux of chronic disease.
We talk about mitochondria.
That's where energy is produced.
Most of us, yes, the low mood.
No, it's not a lack ofantidepressant drug, right, it's
a lack of energy.
We're not flowing.
For many different reasons wehave this lack of energy that
drags everything down.
I see it it my own kids the lowmood.

(14:07):
They're not active anymore,they're not getting out like
kids used to, they're justlaying in their bed watching the
screen and it's terrible andit's so frustrating trying to
fight with them to get out intothe sunshine, and the fact that
you have to threaten to removethe device for weeks that it
it's a problem.
But especially when you put itright on the back of your neck,

(14:29):
then that energy is flowingright up into the brain there.
So it's really amazing.
And again, we talk about thosemeridians, right, we talk about
chi or prana, however you wantto define this life force,
energy.
But we usually get disease whenthere's stagnation.
I tell my patients all the timewhen you're having pain, to me

(14:49):
that means the energy isn'tflowing right.
We've created stagnation in anarea and then inflammation
proceeds from that.
So you want to get energyflowing at all times.
This is a problem.
Sometimes people try to detoxand they can't because they're
so clogged up, right?
So we have to get the energyflowing.
We have to get all thoseelimination organs flowing first

(15:11):
before you can try to detox,which is something we all need
to do in today's day and agebecause of the toxic world we
live in.
But again, if you don't havethat basis of energy this is a
big fan of Silcore, we talkabout them all the time and
their number one basis for theirprotocol is always you have to
create energy first.
You can't even drain out theorgans if you don't have energy.

(15:32):
So energy is underlying all oflife and, as you said right, as
we get older, we make less andless or mitochondria are not as
efficient.
So having something like thisteeny little wearable patch that
you just, like I said, set itand forget it 12 hours at a time
is just an amazing piece oftechnology, and that's the fact

(15:53):
that we're using the lightthat's reflecting off of our own
body, activating all these stemcells, is absolutely incredible
.

Victoria (16:02):
It really is.
It really is.
I want to talk about vision ina minute too.
So, david, when he created thisenergy enhancer, this is and we
have double blind placebocontrolled studies and this was
all about mitochondria and againit was helping the Navy SEALs
to have more energy.
And I was just hearing him talkyesterday and I'm happy to send
this video to people about howmuch this benefits the

(16:26):
mitochondria.
So it's so exciting and that'snot something that I've known
about.
I'm much more I'm not thatscientific and I'm much more
movement and depth my expertise.
So it's just so interesting.
But my vision has improved inseven different ways and that
was in the first few years thatit was improving.
So I went to a retina.
I was going to a retina doctorevery six months because there

(16:48):
was something quite unhappyabout my right eye at retina and
I was going towards surgery andthat surgery was going to
require me to be on my belly forthe two to three week recovery
time, which didn't seem very funor easy.
But so I was going and then shesaid after I started using the
X39 patching with lighttechnology, she said you don't

(17:11):
need to come back for a year.
And then I think I went onemore year and then she said you
don't need to come back.
I said do you think it's a stemcell activation that has
improved the retina?
And she kind of shrugged androlled her eyes and what
explanation did she have?
she had no explanation, rightand then, just a month later, I
went to the eye doctor and Isaid so what do you think about

(17:34):
the retina improving and stemcell technology?
I always point because that'swhere my patch is and uh, and
she said let me check your eyesand then I'll answer your
question.
So she did some eye tests andshe said Victoria, so I was 68
at the time I believe 67, 68.
And she said it must have been68.

(17:55):
And she said we could not getyour vision to 2020.
And she said now, with just alittle bit of correction, we can
get you to 2020.
She said that's definitely thestem cells.
And then she said no, with justa little bit of correction, we
can get you to 20-20.
She said that's definitely thestem cells.
And then she said your retinaimproving?
She said that never happens.
She said that's definitely thestem cells.

Dr. Carver (18:11):
This is exciting to hear because my mom just
recently had a weird retinaltear and they're really worried
about it and I'm like, geez,what are we going to do?
See, the universe works inwonderful ways and I'm like oh,
I got to run over when I gethome, run over patches and
myself I'm spending a ton ofmoney this week trying to help
my vision because it's actuallymy right eye.

(18:33):
It's a weird film and it's justdriving me crazy.
I've got to be better with mypatches.

Victoria (18:39):
Yeah, and you could also even put a patch right on
your temple if you wanted.
I didn't do that much for theretina issue.
I always had one here.
For five years I've had onehere, but I sometimes would put
one here.
Or you can also put them insidea cap.
If you're wearing a cap, you cando some different.
Or you can put them inside likean eye mask at night.

(19:00):
You can put I think it might becarnosine or glutathione or
something and then you canswitch them.
So that's another.
There's so many things you cando.
And again, we're not, I'm not adoctor, you're a doctor, but
I'm not a doctor.
But we can.
It's like friends helpingfriends or neighbors helping
neighbors.
You know that you try this.
Everybody's body is verydifferent, so we explore.

(19:20):
A lot of people actually arefinding that they can wean off
medications that they neverthought they could wean off of.
And, by the way, I was out nearNorth Adams.
Where was I?
Pittsfield, I think, greatBarrington.
I was in Great Barrington and Iexperienced dry eye for the
first time, very intensely, andI thought we were in a Mexican
restaurant and I thought it wasa corn chip in my eye.

(19:41):
I said excuse me I'm going togo get this corn chip out.
But I had dry eye for years andit was really uncomfortable and
that's also gone.

Dr. Carver (19:50):
And because that's what the optometrist said to me
at the beginning of this week.
He's, your eyes are so dry andI was like, oh, maybe that's
that Because overall my skinfeels dry, I just feel dry.
So he was like you need to pumpway more omegas into your
system.
And now I'm like I'm superexcited.
I'm like I wish I had broughtmy patches with me.

(20:11):
So that's really cool for eyehealth.
Are there any other anecdotesyou have for other kind of
ailments that you've seen get?

Victoria (20:17):
better For me.
I had scoliosis and I've heardso many people talk about
scoliosis and my scoliosis wouldget worse if I was injured or
fell.
I fell off a really tiny zipline one time and then it was
really pronounced after that andI had a kyphosis also.

(20:38):
So I had a bump, a lymphaticcongestion at the top of my
spine.
I heard two women at twodifferent nights talk about that
.
Their kyphosis went away and Ilooked in the mirror and I went
back to the chiropractor who hadtold me I had a kyphosis and I
was arguing with him.
I was like no, I can't, I'm aFeldenkrais teacher and I
thought it was skeletal, which Ithink there's two different

(20:59):
kinds of kyphosis actually.
But I went back to him and Isaid what do you think?
And he said if you walked inoff the street, I would never
say you had kyphosis.
So my kyphosis went away.
Also, the scoliosis went awayand women are saying that their

(21:21):
shoulders are level for thefirst time in their lives.
Now, if someone had a reallystrong scoliosis I'm not saying
that would necessarily go away,but even if it softened a lot or
softened considerably orsoftened some so that people
could be more comfortable andit's not getting worse, like
pulse.
The progression perhaps that'swhat I'm seeing over five years
is that it's just so surprisingand practitioners I've seen
scoliosis resolve with energymedicine.

Dr. Carver (21:41):
Again, it like light is energy and part of energy is
light that we don't realize.
So I think it makes perfectsense.
You put the energy back in thebody.
Like we said, it knows what todo.
So that's great.
Because there aren't a lot ofreal treatments for scoliosis
back braces and all sorts ofweird things, maybe exercises,
but again a lot of it is theenergy flow right and that's why

(22:04):
we go to the chiropractor,because the more aligned our
vertebra is.
That's how our energy flows upand down, but, like you said,
the governing meridian, that'swhat goes up the entire backside
of our body connects at the topof our head with the conception
vessel, and that's what we need.
We need a steady flow of energyup the back, down the front and
vice versa.
That flowing of energy is howwe have health.

(22:29):
Beautiful, very nice.
This is super user-friendly,right, it's completely
non-invasive.
This is not a drug or anythingthat doesn't hurt.
Even ozone is so amazing, butsometimes the methods of
application don't feel so great.
No, but again, with this lightenergy, it's absolutely amazing.
It can stimulate your body todo what it needs to do.

Victoria (22:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's so true.
I loved ozone from the firsttime we experienced it in an air
purifier, and so I've been soldon ozone since then and that's
like 33, 34 years ago, and soit's great that you use that too
in your practice.
And this.
I had something I wanted to sayfor sure the scoliosis.
In Feldenkrais we work withscoliosis in a very beautiful

(23:14):
and very effective way thatsoftens scoliotic curves.
But I was like why, how is thischanging?
So thank you for saying thatenergy changes scoliosis,
because it's just so One womansaid.
She said I just felt my wholeback relaxed.
So that's really helpful to mebecause I'm like talking to
other people what do you think?
Why do you think it's helpingscoliosis so much?

(23:36):
I'm puzzled, and so that'sreally fun to talk with you
about that.
So I had chronic neck and backpain basically my whole life.
I had leg pain before thattwo-story fall like considerable
leg pain that would wake me upas a child at night in a lot of
pain.
I think it was something beyondgrowing pains and I may have a
bone issue Chronic neck and backpain really for at least 50

(23:59):
years, I would say, and that itwould just never leave for a
long time.
Feldenkrais always helped me,and sometimes I wouldn't have it
for months, but then it wouldcome back again.
So I've had to be reallyattentive, and I have not had
any back or neck pain since Iput this patch on, I will say
until I had ankle surgery lastAugust and that put me back and

(24:20):
I had to be watching.
I couldn't do any weightbearing for quite a while months
, and that was from an oldinjury.
When I was 30 years old,somebody jumped on me in a
volleyball game so there was acyst in a bone, and after that,
though, I don't think I'm evergoing to have another surgery.

Dr. Carver (24:36):
It's so important to know because most of us have
that chronic.
Actually, the optometrist saidto me at the end of the week you
have any neck problems?
I'm like I'm bent over all daylong doing what I do.
But so many people I've noticedwith the tmj discomfort right,
so many of those people it'sactually into the back, into the

(24:56):
shoulders, right, becausethat's where we hold all of our
tension, we, we cleanse our jaws.
So the root of that, a lot ofthat, is muscle and I love ozone
and procaine for that.
But that can be a littleuncomfortable because you have
to have an injection.
I think, now that you're talkingto me about this, I should
employ a little bit more of thiswith the TMJ patients and

(25:18):
because, again, when we'reactivating the stem cells, you
can put a splint in everybody'smouth and stuff, but it's a
band-aid, right.
We're not really.
We're helping the symptom butwe're not really getting at the
root of it.
So if we can relax all of thosemuscles, we get the stem cells
activated, we can get joints toregenerate.
I know that most conventionalmedicine dentists will say

(25:39):
absolutely not.
But again, given the rightenvironment, we get the bite
correct, we get the musclesrelaxed, we put enough energy
into the system that we can heal.
And again it's just a littlesticker that you put in the back
of your neck.
So why not, right the prosoutweigh any of the cons, which
I'm not sure how many looklooking through the website.

(26:01):
What are the cons?
They're saying there's no proof.
And I said for me I meanscience, especially publications
that research has gotten somuddled it's just hard play.
I, I, people who tell mestories and all these anecdotes.
And again, if, if there's noreal downside, why not try it?
Just like you said, I'm curious.

(26:21):
Just like you, I love.
I've tried these, I don't evenknow how a long time ago.
I don't remember how I firstfound out about them.
I got them and sometimes it'dbe like I try too much and then
I forget about that thing.
But it was funny because Ithink we had that conversation I
don't know a few months ago,right, and you were the one of

(26:47):
four people in one week to talkabout these lightweight patches
and I'm like, okay, the universeis hello, wake back up.
Remember I said this is not acoincidence, this is the we're
saying hey, get back into thiskind of good therapy.
So I'm glad we finally got tohave our little conversation and
we can share it with myaudience, because it really is
can be a game changer and if itdoesn't work, it doesn't work
For me a lot of times.

(27:08):
I try a lot of therapies and Idon't feel a lot of difference.
But I think those of us whohave more pain, more chronic
issues, you feel a greaterdifference.
If you're not super, super sickor super super weak, maybe you
don't feel as much of an impact.
But I'm really interested totry it.
Like you said, I have a littlelump in the back of my eye.

(27:30):
For a long time I'm like, oh, Iwonder if maybe I can get that.
And then with my vision, I'mlike, all right, because my
vision's been getting worse andI'm getting older and trying to
prevent having to need readersand all that kind of stuff,
because I need to be able to seeaccurately for what I do.
So I'm excited to get home andput my patches back on.

Victoria (27:49):
That's so great, that's so great.
So I want to go back to when Ifirst put the patch on.
Within three or four hours Ihad so much more energy and I
was getting weaker and weaker.
Being sick with COVID for eightweeks, I was feeling lower
enough to go out and drive, butI had been really housebound for
about five weeks or six weeksor so but I wondered if I was
dying because I was getting soweak.

(28:10):
But within three or four hoursI had more energy, the fatigue
went away and the weakness wentaway.
So I called my friend whooffered to drive me to Iowa and
I said let's make a plan.
And we drove eight hours twodays in a row to get to see my
mom before she passed away and Iwas able to drive the first
four hours of both of those daysand it didn't feel like it was

(28:31):
pushing it.
So it was amazing.
And then my friend turned me onto the silent nights patch in
the hotel that first night.
She said she had just gottenthat and so that really helps
people a lot too.
And regarding the science,there's 90 double-blind
placebo-controlled studies andwhen people go get their medical
tests like cholesterol, bloodpressure, all the different

(28:53):
things that the doctors checkfor.
They improve quite consistentlyand quite dramatically.
And there's even a holisticcardiologist who someone put a
patch on the outside of hissport coat.
He had shoulder pain and in 10minutes he came back to their
booth where they were inprobably a whole health expo or
something and the pain's gone.

(29:16):
So sometimes it can happen thatfast because it's at the speed
of light.
So it's just so exciting.
It's so exciting.
And, going back to theFeldenkrais method, if you want
me to make some podcasts withyou or for you, we could record
some different eye, jaw, tongue,lip movement sequences and neck
movements that really help, allof that in a way that again

(29:40):
also activates more of our brain.
So I've been so interested inhow we can activate the brain
since I'm in my 20s and the factthat this X39 and the X49
really improve the brain so muchand I almost hesitate to talk
about.
But people with brain diagnosesare improving a lot, going from
being completely lethargic andnot communicative or barely

(30:03):
communicative to really knowingwhere they are, being able to
talk and laugh and be alertagain.
So it's I wonder too about mydaughter's had a concussion and
she's been a stickler about it.

Dr. Carver (30:15):
We're like, can you please use the red light?
And she just groans and grumpsabout it.
But hey, putting a sticker onit for teenagers, that would be
really nice.

Victoria (30:24):
Maybe help with that, the motivation and they could
even put it on the inside oftheir clothing if they'd rather.
Most people don't have aproblem with the adhesive being
a problem, even if they have aproblem with other adhesives.
But yeah, so we've seenteenagers' lives change so
dramatically in such beautifulways and even down to the

(30:45):
pimples, or with young womenwith menstrual cramps and pain,
and women in every stage of life.
We see such beautiful resultswith supports and also with
animals.
So I mentioned that you couldput a patch on an animal, but
whether it's a tiny dog or tinycat or a farm animal or our

(31:06):
horse is 2,000 pounds.
They're like 1,000 or 2,000pounds, so that one little patch
can be effective for all thosedifferent weights of animals,
people.
So that's also reallyinteresting to me and it's like-
.

Dr. Carver (31:19):
Don't even double up one One patch.
It doesn't matter size oranything like that.
Because you're using your ownbody's heat that's reflecting
back there, so it's not anexternal source of heat or
anything.
So that's why I would say sizedoesn't really matter.

Victoria (31:37):
And you don't need to plug anything in, like when we
use our red lights, we need torecharge them, and et cetera.
So we are the power source tothis technology, which is so
cool.

Dr. Carver (31:48):
It's so cool and I imagine because when we first
used it, like you said, you wereweak, so your energy was low,
but the more you used it and themore you built up your energy
bank, the better and better youfeel.
So that's that's reallyimportant.
One of the reasons we exercise,especially as we get older,
doing the weight training isbecause our muscles act like

(32:09):
rechargeable batteries and so weneed as much energy as we can
in the body to age.
Also, that's why weightliftingis so vital, why we actually
need to eat more protein as weage, because we need to maintain
that muscle mass in order tokeep our energy levels at the
right level.
So patches can help build thestrength and stamina to in order

(32:33):
to do the weights right,because some women are like I,
can barely lift five pounds.
So these patches also becausethey are boosting energy at the
cellular level, they can help dothe weightlifting.
They give you a little morestrength and stamina because
we're supplying a little bitmore energy to the system.

Victoria (32:53):
Absolutely, and we begin to as we age.
Like you said, we're losingmuscle.
We need more muscle.
I didn't know that it was apower source.
That's fabulous.
I'm just going to talk withsomeone today, a former gymnast
who's 74 and he's very thin, andsome other people my age are
older and younger also.

(33:14):
But the X49, the stem cell patch, and this is an addition to the
X39.
So if a person is only going towear one patch, which is fine
to do just one, this is thenon-negotiable patch, the
foundation patch, and again,we've had it just about almost
six years now.
I've been using it for fiveyears and again have less
wrinkles than I did, have muchgreater health and it was a long

(33:35):
recovery from COVID.
It wasn't like it was overquickly.
But the X is specificallyincreasing muscle mass and we
have studies that show it'simproving bone density and it
also is targeting the heart andthe brain.
So the X39 is really supportingthat heart and brain and
everything in general andsending those GHK copper

(33:56):
peptides activating or sendingthe stem cells that.
The GHK is activating the stemcells for more general use, but
this is an AHK copper peptideand so the two of them together
are super like a really goodbasic program, honestly.

Dr. Carver (34:14):
It's interesting you said that because I just had a
patient reach out and she's likeI don't want to take the
bisphosphonate for my bonedensity.
What else can I do?
So that's great.
We've got to change your diet.
We've got to do someweightlifting, but again, with
somebody who might feel a littlefrail, that may seem daunting.
So getting a little boost,that's another very exciting use

(34:36):
to help increase the bonedensity, because we know those
drugs.
On a DEXA scan they will looklike your bones are getting
stronger, but in fact they'rejust creating new bone around
old holy bone and we actuallytend to get way more fractures
with that.
Not to mention if you ever needa tooth extract or whatever.
It's a nightmare.
It can lead to total necrosisof the jawbone, so it's not

(34:57):
great.
So again, non-invasive, greatway.
I got all these ideas, victoria, you're giving me all these
great things to put in my stackand I've known about it for
years, and so I tell theuniverse was like hey, remember
this, get back to it I'm so gladto meet you.

Victoria (35:12):
I'll tell you and what have love having this
conversation and I teach somebones bones for life.
We call it, based on theFeldenkrais method, movements.
And I can't lift weights.
I probably have Ehlers-Danlos,so weightlifting just locks me
down and I can injure myselfeasily.
So I can do all these otherthings.
But I want to say the reallyinteresting thing to me is so by

(35:36):
August last August, when I hadthis ankle surgery plus a foot
surgery in a different location,I was I feel like I've been
frail that last fall and winterand not liking it at all.
I'm 5'10 and I am not so frail.
I did not lose any muscle massand I'm sure that's because of
this technology.
So I've lost muscle mass beforeafter big injuries or a broken

(35:59):
arm or broken pelvis, dislocatedhip with 95.
I lost muscle mass.
But now I'm so much older andit has to be this technology
right and those peptides thatare so brilliant, and I had
never even heard of peptidesuntil this technology came to me
.

Dr. Carver (36:16):
And that's another thing.
You can internally takepeptides.
You can go, and not a lot inthe Us, but you can go down to
mexico and you get stem cells,but they're very expensive.
Most of the time you're usingstem cells, they're not your own
stem cells.
So that's a little bitconcerning.
You know who.
You're putting somebody else'sdna in your body and and I don't

(36:37):
know, is that good or is thatnot?
So, again, let's enhance ourbody.
We know we're all energy.
Let's use our own powers ofhealing.
So well.
This is awesome and, like Isaid, now I'm like so anxious to
go home and get my patches onmyself, my mom, my child, my

(36:58):
patient.
So tell us a little bit aboutif somebody listening to this is
like really wants to try it.
How do they reach out?
How can they order some of?

Victoria (37:05):
these, okay.
So I think the best way is tocall me and my number is
413-563-7553.
And I'll say it again later.
A website called the Wisdom ofLight, so four words
dgwisdomoflightcom.

(37:26):
And there's an ordering sitethat's actually new to me and
I'd like to help people order sowe can really do what fits for
you best, financially andhealth-wise, whatever your
situation is.
But that's lifewavecom.
Forward, slash the wisdom oflight.
Forward, slash enrollment,forward, slash packs.

(37:48):
So lifewavecom, slash thewisdom of light, slash
enrollment, slash P-A-C-K-S.
You can go and order on yourown and you'll see there's a few
different, three differentintroductory packs, but I can
help you.
I feel like I can help you fillthem more appropriately and
happily like, really get alisten to what.

(38:11):
Try it for three months.
But I want to really encouragepeople, think in terms of six to
12 months, because this isnatural.
It's not like a heavy duty drug, it's not which, by the way,
I've never found drugs thateffective or and not without

(38:37):
side effects, et cetera, when Ihaven't used them that much in
my life.
But there's been times thatI've okay, because of whatever
situation, but it's never turnedout to be a happy thing and
people are feeling really goodand really empowered to take
care of themselves.
And we have to work withWestern medicine to some degree,

(38:57):
and I'm not saying it's easy tobalance using Western medicine
and natural things.
But if you want to live betterand longer, it's really
important to start choosingbetter food, good water, light
therapy that really helps yourbody heal itself.

Dr. Carver (39:15):
Absolutely.
You're speaking the message ofthe whole podcast, right?
We are trying to empower peopleto be their own best doctor so
that they don't need to visitthe dentist and go to the doctor
unless in a crisis, right?
Obviously, it's reallyimportant to have that expertise
there, but there's so much thatwe can do on our own.
We are the only ones who reallyunderstand our body, our

(39:38):
physiology, better than anyone,and most of the time, I think,
as we get older, we lose ourintuition, and I'm spending a
lot of time these days reallytrying to tap back into that
internal wisdom and thatintuition.
Just like I said, when I hadfour people in one week ask me
about the life wave patches, Iwas like, okay, okay, I get it.
Or sometimes, when I hear thatlittle voice in my head, it'd be

(40:01):
interesting.
Sometimes I'm working on apatient and I get this little
thing like use the light here oruse some ozone right here.
And sometimes I would just belike, ah, I'm dizzy, I don't
want to take the time to get it.
But now I'm like, no, I neverignore that voice anymore
because I think that was thatwisdom.
I'm trying to tap back intothat consciousness.
So not only do I help myself.

(40:21):
I'm helping all the people thatI touch to hopefully keep them
as healthy as possible, andlight is one of those things
that comes from the divine.
It's all around us and it'sthere for a reason.
So why not harness that?
Because, again, it's such aneasy technology to use.
So thank you so much, victoria,for coming on the podcast today

(40:44):
and giving all of us somethingto think about and to try.
I think this is a great and,like I said, to be able to for
us moms a lot of moms who arelistening to this, and we always
want to help our kids.
A lot of kids are like,resistant to things that we want
to try, but this is pretty easy, right?
My daughter I remember when shewas four.
We had pictures.
We went on vacation.

(41:04):
She had a Band-Aid across herforehead.
She didn't need it, she justthought it was cool, right, so
it was like a Hello Kitty one orsomething, and then she ended
up getting a rash from theadhesive.
But this is such an easy thingfor moms to be able to use to
help their kids when they'resick and not.

Victoria (41:21):
And before we go, I just want to say that the
stories we've heard about thestress that teenagers are
experiencing more than ever.
We all know it's never beeneasy, but it's been so intense
with the pandemic and the world,so many things, that this
technology is so uplifting.
And I'm talking normal orregular kids, I don't know how

(41:43):
to say, but also kids on thespectrum, on the autism spectrum
.
They're doing so much better,also so many.
It doesn't really matter whatthe diagnosis is.
I have always said that withFeldenkrais for over 40 years,
it doesn't matter the diagnosis,but that you can improve and we
all can improve, and I work alot with people with autism.

(42:06):
I work with babies to olderpeople in my Feldenkrais
practice and really zero to 92.
That's been the span of peopleI work with and there's never
been anything like this.
I so wish I had this and Ididn't talk about my lungs, but
two days after 18 months ofhaving lung pain 16 months prior
to COVID, and then two monthsof COVID 16 months prior and

(42:32):
then the two more months, so 18months of really 24-7 strong
lung pain.
Nobody understood why I'dstopped breathing 18 months
prior and turned blue and thenthey were like it looks okay to
me, your lungs look fine, but tohave relief from that lung pain
was amazing and that happenedonly two days.
Sometimes it's going to takeweeks or months for people.

(42:53):
He said it was seven monthsbefore he experienced his
miracle, although he felt energysooner and felt out many other
things.

Dr. Carver (43:01):
But yeah, it was remarkable the longer we are
suffering from some kind ofsymptom, the longer it might
take.
And that's where sometimespeople poo the natural medicine,
right, because they just wantthe quick sex.
They want the drug stop theinflammation or whatever.
But we never really heal fromthat, right.
You're always maintaining Ifyou really want true healing,

(43:23):
true resolution, you know it'sgoing to take time and so I
think that's a really importantpoint for people to understand
that you need to have patiencewith some of these things, the
longer and the way why it worksagain with autism, there's so
much research again with those.
They have low energy states.
They're just born in a lowbecause most of those kids are
very toxic and so any toxins aswe've talked about before they

(43:47):
totally block the mitochondriafrom being able to produce
energy.
So the more energy you have inthe system, the better you can
get the toxins out right andthen the better the more those
kids will improve because theyhave energy.
So it makes perfect sense thatsomething like light can really
help that any anybody who is onthe spectrum or in a low energy

(44:10):
state so it's so true.

Victoria (44:12):
it's so true.
And you and I both have the ioncleanse detoxifying foot bath
equipment and the largestcommunities for that that
technology is the autismcommunity and the Lyme community
, and then people who find thatsomehow experience that they're
not detoxifying.

Dr. Carver (44:30):
well, I'm one of those people, one of the things
it's not that you're literallypulling toxins into the water,
but what you're putting iselectric.
You're putting energy rightwith all the ions.
But what you're putting iselectric, you're putting energy
right with all the ions.
When you keep changing thepolarity in the little device in
the water, you're literallysending electricity into the
body.
So how the patch is gettinglight, you're getting

(44:52):
electricity from that water andthat's what changes the cell
polarity and allows you to dumpthe toxins out.
So you actually have a threeday.
When you're using a foot bath,you get it's like about 72 hours
where your cells now have theproper voltage in order to
dispel the toxins.

Victoria (45:11):
So some people say that doesn't work.

Dr. Carver (45:14):
You're not.
It's not really toxins.
I'm like you're not reallyunderstanding how it's working.
I like my kids to do that a lotbecause, yes, they're toxic
from their diet, but alsobecause they seem like they have
such low energy, we need topump that out.
So if you want to go and eatthat Taco Bell, then you got to
one, take a binder and two, yougot to pump energy into your

(45:36):
body so you more readily can getthose toxins out of it.

Victoria (45:39):
Wow, I got the ion cleanse in 2002, and I didn't
know this about the electricitygoing in until just now.
So thank you so much, whichspeaks again how important that
equipment is.
Versus you can get all kinds offoot baths.
I've been in this field for solong of health that somebody
creates a beautiful ion cleansemachine and then there's going

(45:59):
to be all kinds of knockoffs onit, but none of those have clean
electricity.
So that clean electricity andmade here in America, I knew
intuitively it was important onsome intellectual level, but now
I understand way more that theclean electricity and the ion
cleanse from a major differenceis so specifically important and

(46:22):
clean and right for the body.
Yeah, I love that technology.
Yeah, david Schmidt, who is theinventor of this light
technology, he's also coming outwith a water device this summer
.
That is beyond anything we'veever seen and it takes people.
It's going to worksynergistically with the patches

(46:43):
and with something else that'scoming out in a month, but a
powder with some electrolytesand minerals and different, very
specific things that he findsare so important for us.
This water device is going tobe beyond so far beyond anything
we've seen, and we could talkabout that another time, but
Very exciting.
So he continues to work withlight and in all these different

(47:06):
possible ways, technologiesthat can help us so much in
simple and affordable ways,natural, so the company is
lifewavecom.

Dr. Carver (47:16):
You can go onto the general website and learn a
little bit about it, or we'llhave Victoria's website there
for you.
It was thewisdomoflightcom, socheck that out.
She will help you order what'sappropriate for you, which I
think is great.
Anytime you're trying somethingnew, if you want to get the
best bang for your buck, talk tosomebody who understands that

(47:37):
technology so you get exactlywhat's right for you.
Try it, let's go.
Let's get people feeling fullof light and full of energy.
So thank you for taking yourtime this morning and I'll see
you back in the burbs.

Victoria (47:51):
It's great and I'll really partner with people who
order.
We'll stay, we'll sticktogether for six months or more
to get the results that you want.
Yeah, thank you so much, drCarver.

Dr. Carver (48:00):
Thanks everybody for listening.
I hope this was valuable to you.
If you enjoyed it you wantother people to hear, please
share the episode, let us knowwhat other topics you want to
hear about, and always here toanswer any questions you have.
And thank you again forlistening.
We'll see you on the nextepisode.
Hello, I'm Dr Rachel Carver, aboard-certified naturopathic

(48:25):
biologic dentist and a certifiedhealth coach.
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