Discover the unexpected ties between your dental health and overall wellness in an eye-opening conversation with Dr. Mark DiNola. This episode of The Root of the Matter promises to enlighten listeners on the transformative power of holistic and biologic dentistry. Dr. Mark shares his unique journey into this field, revealing how dental health can impact everything from chronic diseases to rising cancer rates among young people. Our dialogue tackles the shortcomings of conventional systems and highlights the pervasive issue of toxins lurking in our food, environment, and personal care products.
Prepare to rethink what you know about dental treatments as we challenge traditional practices and spotlight safer alternatives. Dr. DiNola delves into the SMART protocol for mercury removal, the pitfalls of processed foods, and the harms of fake sugars and energy drinks. With a focus on nutrient-dense options, we advocate for healthier choices that contribute to long-term well-being. Our exchange also covers the benefits of treatments like ozone therapy, emphasizing their role in promoting healing and eliminating pathogens. By examining the impact of toxins, advanced technologies, and the critical role of mitochondria, we aim to empower you with knowledge for informed health decisions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode
of the Root of the Matter.
I am your host, dr RachelCarver.
Today I'm excited to have acolleague here, dr Mark DiNola.
He's in the kind of DC area andMark is, like me, a biologic
dentist really interested inholistic care, really also
passionate about sharing thiswith the rest of the world.
(00:22):
And I think those of us whobelieve and subscribe to this
more holistic whole bodyapproach, we feel very strongly
about getting the word out, andit's very challenging sometimes
to try to go at the higherlevels of government and stuff
like that.
That's why we, that's why Ilike to do this podcast right,
because we're creating awarenessat the grassroots level.
(00:43):
The more people become aware,the more people talk to one
another, the more thatinformation gets out there.
That's how this really spreadsand this is how people start
asking for the more biologic,holistic type of care, because
we know our conventional systemis failing us in all aspects of
health.
We spend the most, we are therichest country in the world,
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yet we have one of the worsthealthcare outcomes of any
developed industrialized country, which is very sad.
With the change in governmentnow we've got Robert F Kennedy
hopefully heading up the HHS, sothat could be very exciting for
some serious change.
One of his big pushes is to gettoxins out of our food, and
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that's exciting, because I don'tknow about you, mark, but I
think it's the toxins that arereally creating all of this mass
chronic hepatitis.
I was just reading somethingthe other day about young people
and cancer, and the rates areskyrocketing.
And it's just between all ofthe toxins in the environment.
It's in the air, it's in thewater, it's in the food, it's in
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the personal care products, youname it.
We're using plastics everywhere, for everything and then all of
our devices.
We're getting so disconnectedfrom mother nature too, that
it's really not a surprise.
Mark, welcome.
Tell us a little bit about yourbackground, how long you've
been doing the holistic stuffand, yeah, tell us about your
practice.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Thanks for inviting me.
I guess I would say just tostart off saying that I wanted
to be a dentist since I waseight years old and it's such a
passion it's deeper than maybesome people even because I had
this epiphany when I was youngerto do this.
So anyway, as far as what'shappening, I think everyone's
recognizing that the food we eatis interfering with their
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systems, all the systems that wehave.
I think you're spot on.
There's an awareness, a wave,something quite unique happening
with the information, with theinternet.
You can see a shift in thequestions we're getting and
things that happen.
In fact, I was teaching anozone this was even a year, a
couple of years ago and Imentioned a statin that you
(02:54):
should probably take CoQ10 withstatins just off.
And that was the question I got.
What did you say about the?
Because people don't really knowthe medical side, the drug
interferences.
I talk a lot about deficienciescreated by the fact that
pharmaceuticals have to gothrough those detox systems and
we're often deficient inmagnesium and zinc and B
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vitamins just because of meds.
But there's a lot of lowhanging fruit for us to deal
with which we talk about.
As far as the general questionabout overall body health.
We look and see what the toneis on a certain patient, what
they've manifest in their bodiesand their terrain.
I start talking about terrainand people understand that a
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little bit better now too.
Younger people don't want totake medications.
They want to know why theirbellies are problematic.
And we know even one amalgamcan cause you to be dysbiosis in
your gut.
And now we're learning aboutthe microbiome in the mouth and
I had a patient tell me I'm notusing Listerine anymore because
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we know that the bugs in themouth make nitric oxide which we
need for vasodilation and heartcardiac stuff.
So it's all connected and Ithink people are more and more
understanding it and the way todo it without being so negative
like that character on SaturdayNight Live, debbie Downer.
I don't know if you rememberthat years ago, but that's what
(04:22):
I feel like I say I'm Dr Downerabout this information, but I
don't mean to say that it's allnegative.
I think there's a lot ofblessings and things that are
coming up that are the truth andthat's what we just we're sort
of talking about in this place,where we're supposed to just
deal with teeth and gums and youwere maybe at that I don't know
(04:45):
if you were at the seminarabout sleep medicine that we
went to, but, uh, there was alot.
Yeah, you spoke that's.
Yeah, the sleep medicine reallybrought into scope the things
that we can handle on our that'sin our wheelhouse, which is
airway toxicity, which ismercury and metals, and and then
also the bugs make toxins.
But then, um, we learned aboutdementia being influenced by all
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three airway, periodontaldisease or or root canal, or
toxic bacteria and the heavymetals.
So it's like all the thingsthat we do daily, and so it's
very easy for us to just talkabout this is what you have,
this is what we, we can do, andit's not I'm not a big sales guy
, it's more about what peoplewould like to do.
(05:28):
I have existing patients thatstill have amalgams and I say
I'm going to say this every time.
I learn new things every day.
Anyway, I just try to give thema snapshot of what I see in
their whole body and we knowthat we talk about things that
are a little bit exotic, orEastern medicine that some
people understand becausethey're going to chiropractors
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or acupuncture practitioners.
So we say things are on thesame energy pathway or pathway,
and we relate it to that andthey feel better when the
mercury is removed.
Dental amalgams maybe everybodyon this show doesn't know
they're a bunch of metals 30%silver, 50% mercury and so
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there's a lot of things that aretalking about now that the
connection of the metals in themouth caused something called
galvanism, so that's another.
Some people have had issuesthat were definitely galvanic in
nature.
Yeah, I just I think the way Italk about the overall body, I
never say I can make themhealthy or change their status
in terms of medications, and Idon't really go to that.
(06:33):
Usually, practitioners areworking with them already to
work on nutrition, but I can seenutritional deficiencies based
on some meds, based on, like,the different problems they've
had over the years.
It just depends on who comes inat what time and what they're
looking for.
But people are seeking us likecrazy just because no one's
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doing what we do.
I happen to do, like surgical, alot of surgery as well, and I'm
also placing ceramic implants,the SDS implants.
So I want to get the patientfrom whatever condition is in
their mouth to a place where wecan start to add these
replacements that are going tolast for a long time, that are
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more biocompatible?
Yeah, I don't know what theoriginal question was, except
that I have a passion that whenI first learned about amalgam I
was really upset and I thoughtmaybe this was the wrong work
for me.
But God wouldn't let me bedoing this or thinking about it
when I was eight, yeah, so Ijust started to look at how I
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can use my passion and my.
I study all the time, don't you?
We just read all the time.
I'm reading a paper about.
I'm reading about histologybecause I'm going to teach a
course too at the academy.
I'm like reading about how itsounds silly to be thinking
about it, but how, like agranuloma forms, it actually is
epithelium.
And so I get.
(07:58):
If you can get down to thecellular level to try to learn
about how disease processes go,you can see how they take
decades for some things tohappen and they're not always
acute.
So the problem that we're alsodealing with is there's usually
no pain or very little painassociated with some of these
bigger problems that you see,and it's not fair in some ways.
(08:22):
But if people knew all thesymptomatology, maybe that's
connected, maybe they wouldunderstand.
But it's good.
It's good that there's not alot of pain in the mouth.
All the time I look for signsand symptoms of other issues.
People have these littlestruggles and all the kinds of
diseases and names of everything.
(08:45):
I say what is my role in this?
And I try to be a coach, alittle bit like you are a health
coach, and make recommendations.
We do carry.
I carry ghee for oil pullingwe're out right now but I have a
lot of different products thatI think specifically.
I shouldn't really name thenames, I don't think, but there
are homeopathics that we'reusing for rinses now and I use
(09:08):
platelets for all my surgeries.
I would never do anyextractions without ozone and
platelets and all the fancystuff that we do.
It's routine, so it doesn'tseem that fancy, but it's all
been learned since school Allthe stacks of papers we have and
research we do.
And I think that's one thingthat you could.
(09:29):
If a person wanted to ask adentist these questions, it's
they'll have more information bylistening to one podcast
sometimes than traditionaldentists.
And I'm in the ADA still, whichmakes me they just posted that
fluoride's safe and effective,so that's why I'm staying in.
(09:50):
I want to be a vocal leader, avocal advocate.
For that I'm still in the ADAjust to be there, but I think
the dues are not that much to bepart of, so I could be a fly on
the wall in some places, butanyway, it's my passion.
I've had other podcasts thatpeople wanted to listen to.
(10:10):
My one I did on the WestonPrice on nourishing traditions
was very good I thought received, because she brought me down
different paths that maybe Imight not have talked about.
But I could just keep talking.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, definitely, the fluoride kind of was a joke for
all of you.
We actually, I think theconference where we last saw
each other in person, we had theactual head lawyer for the very
few people actually know aboutthe lawsuit that finished in
February but was actually ruledon in September and it is the
largest lawsuit against fluoride, the biggest kind of public
health lawsuit I think in thehistory of public health.
(10:51):
Maybe I'm overseeing a littlebit, but I don't think that much
.
There's been a lot ofcontroversy.
Many of you who listen to thispodcast know my thoughts about
fluoride and there's again beencontroversy and my opinion
doesn't come because I'm aconspiracy theorist.
It becomes because of all theresearch and the education I've
got surrounding that.
(11:11):
And so this lawsuit came outsaying that it was not
reasonable fluoride specificallyin water.
It is not reasonable.
It poses an unreasonable riskfor children and infants, for
neurotoxicity.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, if there was an effective dose, it's way higher
if there is at all efficacy andthe problem with the EPA and
the.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
FDA and the World Health and all these
organizations.
Not one of these majororganizations could present any
evidence about the safety offluoride.
They were all spouting.
There's 30,000 articles sayingthat it promotes, prevents decay
and I think there may be alittle evidence that it
topically does, but it does thisby killing bacteria right.
And when it gets incorporatedinto the enamel it's like the
(12:04):
same thing when people go onFosamax for osteoporosis.
You get these pockets of boneor enamel surrounded by other
enamel, but it's not healthy andany dentist can tell you when
they're trying.
If you try to bond to a toothwith fluorosis, it's almost
impossible, it's very difficultand it's unsightly.
And again, the neurotoxicityand problematic.
(12:26):
And the problem, especially inthe water, is that we don't
realize what the dose is.
So a baby in a baby bottle isgetting a far higher dose than
an adult and that's really theproblem.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I've been speaking
.
I speak about it in the one way, which is was cited, that there
may be like 400, 000 orprobably more people that use
infant formula which has to bemixed with water.
So that's where you get in thedoses.
That's super high.
It's not going to work verywell.
(13:03):
Anyway, yeah, I saw fluorosistoday and, just for your
audience, it doesn't have to bebrown stain, it's very often
it's just white, really brightwhite patches on teeth, which is
presents in a.
It's more of a modeling, looklike marble kind of idea.
But it's sad when there's aphysical thing with if it didn't
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really necessarily help at all.
There are stories where thekids get hold of the little
pills which they used topediatricians used to give and
and they overdose on that stuff.
And the cochran before justcame out and that really
probably is the nail in thecoffin there, because it's
really a a group.
I guess it's very legit interms of their body of
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scientists.
Yeah, and that's the otherthing.
We keep ignoring the stuff thatcomes out and if it's not
convenient research, then theyput lines through it or
something or they put on theside and yeah, you can even see
how that went down over thepandemic in terms of a lot of
things.
So, anyway, I enjoy talkingabout this and my heart breaks
(14:12):
for, like, I want to be aninnocent.
For so long and I'm part ofthis group of people that just
are put their blinders on andthey don't really want to hear.
I've been giving people of TomMcGuire's book.
I gave cases of those books outin my town and I said, no, you
don't have to bring it back.
Give it to someone who has.
When they laugh, you see theirmercury in their mouth.
(14:34):
That's the biggest thing, Ithink, to make someone healthier
.
You can't argue getting thatout.
It has to be taken out safely,which is some of your community
may know that or be aware ofthat already that there's a
protocol that's been researchedpretty well by outside people in
the academy about how to do itcarefully.
So the particles are emitting.
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The little chunks that come offthat you can't even see that
are six microns Mercury's comingoff that, and we also know that
the way traditional dentistsare doing it might be
re-inoculating patients withmore, more levels that are
terrible.
So we're isolating with hepafilters and all kinds of that's
on your probably on your websitemy website but when you're
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looking for a holistic dentist,you want to find out if they're
certified in smart protocol, andso we do all that and in fact,
we add things.
If we find something to behelping.
We always add.
Chlorella might be one, but weuse the charcoal.
That's another where, hopefully, maybe with this new
administration, we can get achelator that would work very
well.
That we know about.
(15:40):
That's really not on the marketyet, but anyway, he mentioned
key rotation in his tweet.
So I think that there's anunderstanding that our body
burden is such that you have todo certain things, and in fact,
I know he has got through keyration.
He got all his amalgams outyears ago speaking about Kennedy
.
But it's just being honest aboutthe research, honest about what
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something tells you if it's notconvenient to what you're
selling.
It's hard when you do a studyto show that this something's
not safe and it's not, and andit's true it's not safe and or
vice versa, those thatinformation is not great for
some people on the one side ofit, but when we're thinking
about human health, um, we'relike you started the show, it's.
(16:23):
It's a moment where you're likewhat can I do so.
You have to look at I use thatphrase low hanging fruit.
You have to change your shampooand your soap and try to clean
up the house and not get supercrazy.
But when you're changing yourdiet, try to think about what's
the quality food, what's thewhat nutrient-dense food is?
What we say Nutrient-dense isthe opposite of the highly
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processed foods that mostAmericans are eating now.
So 70% of the calories thathumans are eating in our country
are highly processed or highlyprocessed, which means it strips
out all your B vitamins andyour things that would oxidize
and would be going bad on theshelf.
I mean, all these things madesense, but as soon as we learned
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that it didn't make sense, weshould change it and tell the
public about it.
Because I'd been in the ADA,like I said, and I remember 20
years ago I said we shouldreally put advocate for on soda
cans like a tobacco and it'scauses cavities and they're like
we can't do that because theygive money for our stadiums and
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this and billboards, you know.
So anyway, it's just, it's astrange thing when you start to
look where the money flows andso people say we're taking
advantage of people taking outtheir mercury.
I could argue that all day longthat it's it's reasonable cost
for something that could behelping you lifelong definitely
helping you lifelong.
But some other comorbidity,that associated with it being in
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your body, the white cells youcan talk about it more, probably
better than I have I can, butthe white cell count goes down,
the microbiomes completelychanged and more plaque and all
those types of things happeningtoo.
So, yeah, I feel great going towork.
My team is they eat it up.
I think now we have HealthyStart for airway with kids and
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seeing kids and we're justtrying hard.
We're fighting the teens withthe energy drinks and there's
another one every day likepractically oh, you hear about
this nation, I'm like looking itup.
My son sends me like somethinghe might want to drink and I
look it up.
But the fake sugars aresomething that we look for too
and we have to be careful aboutacidity of these products, even
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if they don't have sugar.
We're a weird bunch that thinksa little bit too much like when
you go to italy you could justthink about the pasta and you
probably doesn't have gluten andyou can enjoy that, and in our
country you can't pick up food.
That's not every fast foodindustry, every fast food
company has been shown to haveheavy metals in their food.
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Is that true?
And I read the papers I'm like,yeah, this seems to be a
problem.
I don't even go out to fastfood anymore at all.
I make most of my food, butanyway, it's a little depressing
sometimes when you think aboutit.
But then there's this light andthis golden age possibly, and
maybe we can be honest abouteverything.
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Your cholesterol is high.
Maybe we should do this and nottake a statin, and sometimes
the physicians are very oftentheir standard of care that
they'll get in trouble for notdoing the standard of care which
, if you really look at allthese things like cholesterol or
hypertension, they all getchanged when, honestly, I don't
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want to get so political, but itseems to me there's a moving
goal post on some of these itemsthat we look at that we can
test for.
I just don't want to be part ofthat.
I try to enlighten people aboutit.
Since I do bone surgery, I'mdoing surgery on jaw bones.
We're concerned.
Maybe you can talk about thebisphosphonates.
We can talk about that.
I'm also dealing with someonewith osteoradionecrosis in her
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jaw and they do thesesophisticated surgeries and they
radiate the jaw and it killsteeth, bone and the person's
alive.
But they're really suffering intheir mouth with that and phil
malika and all the ozone group,that of people that are teaching
that ozone um is so beneficial.
(20:30):
it's like hyperbaric oxygenlocally, I would say.
Would you say that, yeah, itdoes kill these pathogens where
your immune system can't get to,and places it does crawl, like
I've heard schallenberger saysit can go 2.2 or 3 centimeters
into places.
So it definitely does ascattering kind of thing.
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It doesn't have any breakdownproducts that are negative.
It's water, oxygen,hydroperoxide, so it's very safe
and I like those to beintroduced into accoutrement
that the medical establishmentwants to.
We had a nice lecture at theAcademy on hyperbaric oxygen.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And most countries are using it, except for ours.
Right, but it is one of thebest things that I ever learned.
So I had a patient justyesterday say to me you know,
that injection that you gave meof that oxygen stuff, she was
like holy cow.
That injection that you gave meof that oxygen stuff, she was
like holy cow.
That was amazing.
I can't believe how good I feel.
(21:31):
And she was like it was likenot right away, but 48 hours.
And I said exactly right,because unlike a drug I said
unlike a steroid that would stopinflammation or stop a napher
reaction, we are stimulatingyour body to heal itself.
I said and this is why it's soeffective, without any of the
side effects that we see withnormal drugs.
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We are enhancing your body'sability to heal and that is the
goal of most of us holistic,biologic people.
We are looking at the body andsaying how can we take or what
are the burdens on a person'simmune system that we can remove
so that the body can healitself?
Because that's how you reallyget resolution.
Unfortunately, in Westernmedicine traditional medicine
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and dentistry we're all tryingto just kill the bad and just
manage symptoms.
Right, and those of us who arelike is there a better way?
We don't want to managesymptoms.
Obviously we're going to removedecay and do the fillings and
all the things that a typicaldentist will do.
But then we're also thinkingwhy did you develop that cavity
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and why are you having theseinfections?
Right, because if we reallyunderstand the why, if we talk
about that terrain, which it'sall connected, then we can
really help our patients.
I had another patient yesterdaywho came in for a routine
restoration, a removal ofamalgam, and her blood pressure
was very high.
So I don't even think alldentists are even checking
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people's blood pressure, whichis patients often see the
dentist way more than thephysician, and so that is
something super simple and easythat your assistants can do to
monitor that.
And her blood pressure was 200over 110.
And I used the wrist one, thenthe, and then I got out the old
fashioned step.
this because I said wow, that'sreally.
(23:17):
Let me just double check.
I don't always love just thewrist ones.
And she said oh yes, I was inthe emergency room last week
because my blood pressure washigh so they gave me a fourth
blood pressure medication.
I was like, oh my Lord, what isthe definition of insanity,
doing the same thing over andexpecting a different result?
So I said to her I said listen,I'm like, even though this is a
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routine amalgam removal, if any, despite all of the mitigation
techniques we use, if any ofthis amalgam gets into your
system, I'm very concerned foryour blood pressure.
So I was like, and even shesaid my doctor okayed this
feeling.
I said I believe blood pressureis due to inflammation.
There is an inflammation,whether it's from an infection
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or some toxin that is causingthat.
So I don't want to add burdento the body Again, even with all
my mitigation techniques.
If any bit of that getsanywhere, that could set you
into a stroke or something likethis.
I said so.
I sent her a lot of information.
I said I want you to read aboutthis.
I'm like I would love them totest you for some infections or
(24:20):
toxins, because there are simpleurine tests that we can do that
look for toxicities and heavymetals and all of these things,
because just giving person moreand more meds is not solving.
I said your body is increasingyour blood pressure to try to
get oxygen somewhere.
There's somewhere in your bodythat needs more oxygen and so
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it's raising your blood pressure.
We're going to use all thismedication to try to stop what
your body is naturally doing.
I'm like it just is not ahealthy way to go about solving
these problems.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, yeah, and that's not unusual for meds.
I mean, usually it's one or two.
But yeah, the mercury opens upgap junctions and endothelial
lining, my thing.
I kind of joke with my kids whodabble in the holistic with
podcasts and stuff I talk about.
It's always the mitochondriaand we know that powerhouse of
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the cell, the mitochondria inall these different systems it
sells.
And then in those systems weknow mercury attaches to the
electron transport chain and soit is always.
It's such a little actuallyHuggins called it the devil
because it does go intodifferent places where it
shouldn't be.
It stores our bodies areamazing and terrain tries to
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protect itself, so it willdeposit in places maybe that are
less someone like me who's thin, it's the fiber on nerves or
fat.
So it's going to go there andso you have to be careful.
Also, we do this for us in ourfamilies.
We do holistic.
We can be a good dentist andsafe for ourselves, something
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people don't.
It's a little selfish to talkabout yourself, but my team is
protected and we're protected.
But yeah, it is so we.
So that's a good example.
There's so many people with highblood pressure.
So you see, someone with highblood pressure you don't say you
can make them better.
You just say let's get this onenuisance out of here.
I had a guy who had aconcussion and epilepsy and he
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had one amalgam but he waselectric sensitive.
I'm like let's just get thatone tooth taken care of.
He only had one amalgam andjust see what happens, but he
can't be near electrical towersand stuff because he had a grand
mal.
I'm not saying I can get youbetter from your seizures, but
let's get this off and let's eatbetter.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I feel very passionate about is just sharing
to my own health.
So just sharing all theeducation that I've had, that
I've learned and ultimatelyallow patients to decide what's
best for them.
And we're here to do it safelyand provide alternatives.
Like you said, I would never doan extraction anymore without
ozone and PRF.
It is just astounding thehealing.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, I know you talked to John about that, the
protocol.
It almost seems like it's scarywhen you think about what could
happen when you just take atooth out without doing these
things.
And I'm learning about, like Itold you about the histology.
I'm friends with Dr Pakou Jerryhas been doing all those
research projects with ischemicbone, with Dr Hans Lechner from
Germany and other people.
The histology really tells thehistory of how something got.
(27:33):
So the histopathology, howsomething became what it is.
Yeah, I actually visited Germanybecause I want to get a Cavitao
, maybe hopefully the newinstrumentation, but we were
just chit-chatting and I had allmy little drawings I was
showing him.
Visited germany because I wantto get a cavitao, maybe
hopefully the newinstrumentation, but we were
just chit-chatting and I had allmy little drawings I was
showing him.
But I was talking about howthere's a, there's I do a
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timeline with it, like a arch,like a rainbow instead of a
cross, because what you can dois stack the rainbows and you
could put different factors.
This is my creation.
I'm a kind of an artist, but Itry to write and then draw.
But the idea is that you haveall these added things that you
can add up to to get the womanwho's 45 or who has cavitations
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and that she has no amalgam, shehas nothing, but she has
fibromyalgia or something likethat.
So these are the things we see.
So it's just you and I are.
We're really blessed because wecan help people in ways maybe
other dentists don't, but we'rejust guides.
We're like one of my friendssays I saved his life One of my
patients who's a friend, it justwe love.
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We love that kind of stuff andit was with ozone and his lip
would never heal and I don'tknow.
I just feel like we can bethere and we are healers.
And if you believe in otherthings, maybe we've always been
healers, I don't know.
But there's so many things wethink about and so many rabbit
holes we go down.
We had a lecture of someonetalking about emotions with
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cavities in the mouth.
I'm like, show me the evidence.
I wanted to learn about it, butit's interesting.
With cavities in the mouth, I'mlike, show me the evidence.
I wanted to learn about it, butit's interesting.
It makes you open to everything.
That's a possibility.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That's a possibility, never 100% of anything.
So I'm curious with your studyof the histology.
Oftentimes you'll look at anx-ray right, especially a 3D
x-ray, and we see an old rootcanal and maybe there's a little
radiolucency or a darkeningaround the root tip and I say,
is that healed, a healed lesion?
Is that still problematic tothe immune system?
If you saw, let's say, number19 root canal, do you see the
(29:36):
radiolucency or on the mesialtip, what's your thought process
when you're seeing that?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Okay.
So if you want to go to thehistology on it, what I've
learned and it is funny to justtalk about things like we're
students and we're all giddyabout it because it is really
exciting, actually it's sillybut it's exciting too but so
it's like a little, it's a cyst,it's a little epithelial ball
and within that ball becomes asituation that you already
(30:03):
mentioned, which is it's notoxygenated.
So it is this.
It used to be called focalinfections, which the endodontic
community made verboten.
You can't say focal infectionanymore.
It's not on their website.
On their website they saythat's been disproven and stuff.
So everybody tries to hedge totheir old ways.
(30:24):
But for all intents andpurposes, that little ball I
look through and it's 3D and youlook at what it has around it.
Typically the bone is alreadychanging because that micro
environment's like created anacidity, created, heat created.
It's actually called atrophic.
So it has fat, fibroblasts andepithelium and I'm sure there's
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some macrophages you can get in.
It depends on if it's aperioendo I don't want to get
into that with people listeningto us but for a perioendo.
So if there's periodontaldisease with a root canal, the
epithelium goes all the way fromthe gum, all the way down the
side of the ligament.
That's why we see those Jshapes.
So someone might not have any.
(31:07):
You could do percussion, theymight not have any pain.
But the other thing I've learnedand maybe you've had this
insight too is there's scleroticbone, which is the opposite of
osteo or necrotic bone.
So sclerotic bone is anautoimmune, it's an immune
problem.
It's an osteoimmune problem.
So there's a reinforcing andthat's what I think about.
It's like there's walls createdbecause there's cortical bone
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being formed over time.
You know that it's wallingitself off and trying to protect
itself.
If you see an advanced lesion,you'll see doming up in the
sinus and you'll see a piece ofcortical bone that was never
there or probably was neverthere until that situation.
Our bodies are great at doingsomething to isolate it.
That's what I would say.
(31:52):
And I just have to see how thatprogress, how it's progressing,
and then you say to yourselfwhat other systemic problems do
they have and can you relate itback?
So I just say we could considerthis.
And of course I have thesecharts all over the place and
this one's probably familiar toyou.
But I'm very open and I thinkwhat happens to us is patients
(32:14):
say, wow, I never talked to adentist like this and they start
opening up about other things.
And I always tell people onexams that some of the
statistics on women like one inthree women or one in five men
have been assaulted in some wayor had some traumas.
So we're getting really closeto their aura around their face
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and head and neck and all that.
So we have to be really carefulabout those things.
I tell people when I'm doingsurgery I just want you to
remember I know that I'm tryingto take care of you, but I know
that.
So you get a rapport with themin a different way and sometimes
you have to also have grace,because some people are so sick
that they're not nice.
(32:56):
They're not nice and so you tryto be okay with that and you
say this is our protocol noF-bombs in my office, please,
and that kind of thing.
Try to regain some comp.
Say we are here to help youthrough this and have some grace
in their situation at themoment.
But we also you have thesepeople that are red flags and
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they just continue to not let.
Maybe they don't do whatthey're supposed to do in their
part.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Here's what I know right this tooth is dead,
there's no more blood flow thereand in situations like that,
bacteria, fungus, all thesethings can happily live there.
They can overgrow.
20% of your lymph is in thehead and neck, so it's
potentially that those toxinsare draining to the rest of the
body.
But the most important thing,like you said, is what is that
person's health condition rightNow?
(33:44):
If it's somebody who has abunch of autoimmune conditions,
totally inflamed, okay, we'rethinking we really probably want
to take that up, especially ifit's on that meridian.
You showed the tooth meridianchart.
If they are having IBS, toothnumber 19 is a lower molar,
that's on the intestinalmeridian.
Versus the person who has zerohealth health issues, is
perfectly healthy, doesn't haveany overt signs of inflammation
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in the mouth.
That's a different story andit's still here's what I know.
Taking out a tooth, it's foreverRight and it's going to
compromise your ability to chew.
And I said but we really needto monitor it because if this
starts growing, if you developany symptoms and some biologics
may say that's terrible, allroot canals have to go Again.
I really think we have toremember that we're treating
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people, not teeth, and I thinksometimes we've lost a lot of
trust in healthcare becausewe're dictating to people
Instead of, like you said, I usethe word partner.
I tell my patients we're apartner, right, I'm here to
educate you and share myexpertise, but ultimately it's
your body, so it has to be yourdecision.
(34:49):
And it's nice that we have somuch great technology in
dentistry today, with intraoralphotos and all these fancy
scanners and these 3D x-rays, sowe can really.
Patients don't have to trust usas much, because we can show
them the evidence which makesfor good partnerships.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, I don't know if this has happened to you
locally, but the people are.
Our colleagues are a little bitintimidated by the fact that
our parking lots are full allthe time and that kind of thing,
people coming from all over theplace.
But the truth is we have a role.
But the truth is we have a role, our doctors as well.
(35:29):
But I I try not to alienate,try to not be like holier than
thou in terms of what I say topatients too, and I let them
come to their own conclusion.
But yet when you educate themas an, I say patient, I'm your
advocate.
I say too, even though you're,you're paying me, but the, the
idea is that I'm your advocateand that's really what I care
about is your mouth.
I'm recommending like water.
(35:49):
We're learning about waterpicks Now.
The new probiotics for themouth is really interesting.
I got back to tongue scrapingwith patients and I'm like, oh,
no brainers, you sometimes justhave to go back on what we
originally learned and and, uh,dispense with the stuff.
That's not really true and thatwas more related to some other
(36:11):
reason.
I have no idea if it's moneyalways, or if it's control.
I have no idea.
But I just want to be a goodperson to think and a good
doctor and love my patients inthis way.
That is unique.
I feel like I'm also evolvingas well in my ability to sense
the terror sometimes that peoplehave or the poor association
(36:35):
they have with dentists, becausethe dentists are trying to just
do what they learn.
Unfortunately, the informationhasn't gotten into the
educational system learned.
Unfortunately, the informationhasn't gotten into the
educational system and I don'tlike to just I love my school.
I I think they probably coulddo.
I think everyone could dobetter than they're doing.
And when, then?
When we can.
Unfortunately, I think thingshad to be related to like in
(36:56):
with with corporate dentistry,it seems like money flows into
chairs in the schools anddifferent things like coca-c
building, your track and fieldthing or whatever.
So we have to get.
What do we spend our money on?
Maybe we should think aboutthat as a nation and the
lobbyists for the industry,casey and Callie Means, wrote
(37:18):
Good Energy.
That book was fantastic and shewas doing what we would do
equivalent Like why am I gettingall these cavities?
And she was sucking out theaffected sinuses during these
major surgeries.
But then is the patient gettingany better?
Maybe they'll be better for alittle while.
But if we just did that withteeth and we just took out the
(37:40):
abscess and left the tooth orsomething like that might be an
example.
It's going to come back.
I don't know.
I feel like we're in adifferent role and I try to be
humble with my knowledge becauseI know it's always changing how
much I know and learn andsomething like Morley Robin
stuff that we're learning new.
That's new to me and I thinkit's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
A book called Cure where he talks a lot about
copper as one of the missingminerals in modern diets, and my
hygienist absolutely swears bythe diet.
She's in her early to mid-60sand she's never been healthier.
We took her through the cellcore.
I talked about her in podcast.
We took her through the cellcore parasite.
All of her autoimmune markerswent away.
(38:23):
The doctor was amazed butdidn't want to learn more, Just
said okay, keep doing what yourdentist does.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So all the vegetarians that might be
listening, don't take this thewrong way, but we don't think
that's the right diet.
Dental diet, like Dr Lin wrotea book on that.
It starts off with changingthat food and what your
hygienist saw or on herself,possibly, but with her patients
she'll see the microbiomechanges because you're not
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giving them the substrates andyou're not giving them the sugar
.
And if there's insulinresistance or something going on
with the immune system withsugar, I don't know if.
But after Weston Price, melvinPage was a doctor who talked
about the balance, with themineral balance being important,
the calcium to phosphorus andsetting up the flow.
(39:09):
You didn't know.
I was this smart, did you?
Yeah, so all these things arelike.
The evidence was there and weignored it.
Why it was so good?
Why do you throw it out?
Because it was cheap orsomething, I don't know.
Anyway, the food is one of hisstops stop eating seed oil, stop
(39:29):
eating sugar, canned food,those types things that weston
price talked about.
Or weston price was very honestabout what he saw.
But the fact of the matter is,everywhere he traveled at that
moment in time was in 30s and40s.
They were.
There were a lot of moderncommunities that were not, or
modern or traditional societiesthat were still isolated
populations is what he calledthem.
(39:50):
He called them primitive people, but that doesn't mean that.
But anyway, they didn't havesugar was one of the main things
.
So our big dental thing aboutsugar is true, but now we're
learning it's feeding the wrongbubs, it's causing insulin
resistance.
So anyway, that's the wonderfulthing about what we're learning
.
We could add on to that when Ilearned something new about
(40:12):
something else Like xylitol.
People all say that's good, butyou and I probably scratch our
heads saying it is a chemical.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
It's a sugar alcohol and, like most sugar alcohol,
they disrupt the microbiome.
So, yes, it kills bacteria, butagain, that shouldn't.
That's not the ultimate goal,right?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Again, we bring it up to yeah, you bring it like you
said it earlier.
Is that a cost benefit of adrug or cost benefit like kind
of idea whether so I could saythey had crude studies on
xylitol enhancing some of thatflow of carotid flow and some of
the flow of the teeth and maybemake the plaque, maybe teeth
slick.
But is it worth it?
(40:50):
Like what's the exchange onthat?
So we're honest about that kindof stuff and if I made a
company I'd want to knoweverything was backed up.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh, now I know better and I'm doing better, and
that's I think that's to me,that's what is important.
Yes, maybe I'm not perfect atsomething, but I'm always
learning.
I'm always striving to dowhat's best for the patient's
health, and I think that's abenefit for our patients who
because most of the time I thinkthey did a study right at
Harvard it's 17 years forsomething to be published in a
(41:18):
scientific journal, for it tobecome standard of care, as
after 17 years it's not evenrelevant anymore, right, yeah,
and so people like us.
We're always looking, and thisis why we seem we get poo-pooed
sometimes by our traditionalcolleagues, because they're not
I don't know.
I often think what are theyreading?
They're reading the stuff thepharmaceutical companies are
giving them or what I don't knowyeah, I, I.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So I go in the.
I'm like the guy who goes intothe lair where all the other
people are, so I go with myfriends that I grew up in dental
school with.
So I went to an XP seminar,which is I mentioned the name,
but it doesn't matter, this istraditional.
This stuff that they teach nowis something I wouldn't do if
you paid me.
And I had a nightmare,literally at the hotel, because
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we were learning about somethingcalled socket shield, which is
when they split a root canaltube and they leave the facial
portion or the buckle portion.
The guy did this huge case withimplants, leaving these shields
up, and that's what they'relearning, and I'm like.
So I had this literally anightmare, it's true.
I woke up and I thought, okay,oh, I learned all this great
(42:25):
dentistry, but I'm not doingthat because that's against
biological rules.
But then my hand startedletting me do it and so I
couldn't change what I was doinglike in the clinic, even though
I knew cognitive.
Anyway, it was creepy.
I don't know what that wasabout.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
So tell us a little bit about if somebody's maybe in
your area or wants to learnmore about you or your practice,
how do we get in touch with youand learn more?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, I, um, I have my website is md dental wellness
centercom.
Um, I have my podcast on thereand the podcast section.
I'm at nine, 53 nationalhighway, lavalle, maryland.
I could tell you that and youlook up my name, mark Denola
Holistic Dentist.
It'll pop up.
But we have a good, like I said, I have a one video, a couple
(43:07):
videos on there as well, but thelist.
You can listen to the podcast,which is nice.
What else Besides my website?
It's getting out the.
I have a Twitter account nowwith my name because I want to
follow.
I was following the lawsuit andFlora and Kennedy stuff and I
try to just put my two cents inthere, even though I probably
don't have big following there.
(43:27):
But I think that's where we'remaybe ultimately going to get a
little bit more truth and maybeboth sides of an argument.
If something's kooky, you justsay it's kooky, prove it's not
kooky or whatever, and that kindof thing.
So I try to refer people.
If it's too far, we all try tolook for each other.
I have my IOMT, i-a-o-m-tInternational Academy of Moral
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Medicine, toxicology.
It's hard to answer the phonelike that, but yeah, so that
would be a place where anybodyin the world can look for
practitioners that have a littlebit of this mindset.
Then when you learn and you goto their website and you ask the
questions, you should have moreeducation to ask the right
questions.
So safe removal needs to besomething that they talk about.
(44:10):
But I'm like two hours fromPittsburgh, two hours from DC,
two hours from BaltimoreGeographically good location
because people come down.
I have a lot of Amish Mennonitepeople come from PA and so I
try to teach them, just likeeverything else, and I don't
judge them, but I say this iswhat we need to do.
(44:32):
So every population, everyperson that comes in is treated
the same.
That's what we try to do.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I hope everyone enjoyed listening to Dr Mark
here.
Look him up and listen to hispodcast.
He may have some other greatguests and other more
information and I guess we'llsee everybody on the next
episode.
Have a great rest of your day,everyone.
Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode
of the Root of the Matter.
I am your host, dr RachelCarver.
Today I'm excited to have acolleague here, dr Mark DiNola.
He's in the kind of DC area andMark is, like me, a biologic
dentist really interested inholistic care, really also
passionate about sharing thiswith the rest of the world.
(00:22):
And I think those of us whobelieve and subscribe to this
more holistic whole bodyapproach, we feel very strongly
about getting the word out, andit's very challenging sometimes
to try to go at the higherlevels of government and stuff
like that.
That's why we, that's why Ilike to do this podcast right,
because we're creating awarenessat the grassroots level.
(00:43):
The more people become aware,the more people talk to one
another, the more thatinformation gets out there.
That's how this really spreadsand this is how people start
asking for the more biologic,holistic type of care, because
we know our conventional systemis failing us in all aspects of
health.
We spend the most, we are therichest country in the world,
(01:06):
yet we have one of the worsthealthcare outcomes of any
developed industrialized country, which is very sad.
With the change in governmentnow we've got Robert F Kennedy
hopefully heading up the HHS, sothat could be very exciting for
some serious change.
One of his big pushes is to gettoxins out of our food, and
(01:28):
that's exciting, because I don'tknow about you, mark, but I
think it's the toxins that arereally creating all of this mass
chronic hepatitis.
I was just reading somethingthe other day about young people
and cancer, and the rates areskyrocketing.
And it's just between all ofthe toxins in the environment.
It's in the air, it's in thewater, it's in the food, it's in
(01:49):
the personal care products, youname it.
We're using plastics everywhere, for everything and then all of
our devices.
We're getting so disconnectedfrom mother nature too, that
it's really not a surprise.
Mark, welcome.
Tell us a little bit about yourbackground, how long you've
been doing the holistic stuffand, yeah, tell us about your
practice.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Thanks for inviting me.
I guess I would say just tostart off saying that I wanted
to be a dentist since I waseight years old and it's such a
passion it's deeper than maybesome people even because I had
this epiphany when I was youngerto do this.
So anyway, as far as what'shappening, I think everyone's
recognizing that the food we eatis interfering with their
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systems, all the systems that wehave.
I think you're spot on.
There's an awareness, a wave,something quite unique happening
with the information, with theinternet.
You can see a shift in thequestions we're getting and
things that happen.
In fact, I was teaching anozone this was even a year, a
couple of years ago and Imentioned a statin that you
(02:54):
should probably take CoQ10 withstatins just off.
And that was the question I got.
What did you say about the?
Because people don't really knowthe medical side, the drug
interferences.
I talk a lot about deficienciescreated by the fact that
pharmaceuticals have to gothrough those detox systems and
we're often deficient inmagnesium and zinc and B
(03:18):
vitamins just because of meds.
But there's a lot of lowhanging fruit for us to deal
with which we talk about.
As far as the general questionabout overall body health.
We look and see what the toneis on a certain patient, what
they've manifest in their bodiesand their terrain.
I start talking about terrainand people understand that a
(03:39):
little bit better now too.
Younger people don't want totake medications.
They want to know why theirbellies are problematic.
And we know even one amalgamcan cause you to be dysbiosis in
your gut.
And now we're learning aboutthe microbiome in the mouth and
I had a patient tell me I'm notusing Listerine anymore because
(04:00):
we know that the bugs in themouth make nitric oxide which we
need for vasodilation and heartcardiac stuff.
So it's all connected and Ithink people are more and more
understanding it and the way todo it without being so negative
like that character on SaturdayNight Live, debbie Downer.
I don't know if you rememberthat years ago, but that's what
(04:22):
I feel like I say I'm Dr Downerabout this information, but I
don't mean to say that it's allnegative.
I think there's a lot ofblessings and things that are
coming up that are the truth andthat's what we just we're sort
of talking about in this place,where we're supposed to just
deal with teeth and gums and youwere maybe at that I don't know
(04:45):
if you were at the seminarabout sleep medicine that we
went to, but, uh, there was alot.
Yeah, you spoke that's.
Yeah, the sleep medicine reallybrought into scope the things
that we can handle on our that'sin our wheelhouse, which is
airway toxicity, which ismercury and metals, and and then
also the bugs make toxins.
But then, um, we learned aboutdementia being influenced by all
(05:07):
three airway, periodontaldisease or or root canal, or
toxic bacteria and the heavymetals.
So it's like all the thingsthat we do daily, and so it's
very easy for us to just talkabout this is what you have,
this is what we, we can do, andit's not I'm not a big sales guy
, it's more about what peoplewould like to do.
(05:28):
I have existing patients thatstill have amalgams and I say
I'm going to say this every time.
I learn new things every day.
Anyway, I just try to give thema snapshot of what I see in
their whole body and we knowthat we talk about things that
are a little bit exotic, orEastern medicine that some
people understand becausethey're going to chiropractors
(05:49):
or acupuncture practitioners.
So we say things are on thesame energy pathway or pathway,
and we relate it to that andthey feel better when the
mercury is removed.
Dental amalgams maybe everybodyon this show doesn't know
they're a bunch of metals 30%silver, 50% mercury and so
(06:10):
there's a lot of things that aretalking about now that the
connection of the metals in themouth caused something called
galvanism, so that's another.
Some people have had issuesthat were definitely galvanic in
nature.
Yeah, I just I think the way Italk about the overall body, I
never say I can make themhealthy or change their status
in terms of medications, and Idon't really go to that.
(06:33):
Usually, practitioners areworking with them already to
work on nutrition, but I can seenutritional deficiencies based
on some meds, based on, like,the different problems they've
had over the years.
It just depends on who comes inat what time and what they're
looking for.
But people are seeking us likecrazy just because no one's
(06:53):
doing what we do.
I happen to do, like surgical, alot of surgery as well, and I'm
also placing ceramic implants,the SDS implants.
So I want to get the patientfrom whatever condition is in
their mouth to a place where wecan start to add these
replacements that are going tolast for a long time, that are
(07:14):
more biocompatible?
Yeah, I don't know what theoriginal question was, except
that I have a passion that whenI first learned about amalgam I
was really upset and I thoughtmaybe this was the wrong work
for me.
But God wouldn't let me bedoing this or thinking about it
when I was eight, yeah, so Ijust started to look at how I
(07:36):
can use my passion and my.
I study all the time, don't you?
We just read all the time.
I'm reading a paper about.
I'm reading about histologybecause I'm going to teach a
course too at the academy.
I'm like reading about how itsounds silly to be thinking
about it, but how, like agranuloma forms, it actually is
epithelium.
And so I get.
(07:58):
If you can get down to thecellular level to try to learn
about how disease processes go,you can see how they take
decades for some things tohappen and they're not always
acute.
So the problem that we're alsodealing with is there's usually
no pain or very little painassociated with some of these
bigger problems that you see,and it's not fair in some ways.
(08:22):
But if people knew all thesymptomatology, maybe that's
connected, maybe they wouldunderstand.
But it's good.
It's good that there's not alot of pain in the mouth.
All the time I look for signsand symptoms of other issues.
People have these littlestruggles and all the kinds of
diseases and names of everything.
(08:45):
I say what is my role in this?
And I try to be a coach, alittle bit like you are a health
coach, and make recommendations.
We do carry.
I carry ghee for oil pullingwe're out right now but I have a
lot of different products thatI think specifically.
I shouldn't really name thenames, I don't think, but there
are homeopathics that we'reusing for rinses now and I use
(09:08):
platelets for all my surgeries.
I would never do anyextractions without ozone and
platelets and all the fancystuff that we do.
It's routine, so it doesn'tseem that fancy, but it's all
been learned since school Allthe stacks of papers we have and
research we do.
And I think that's one thingthat you could.
(09:29):
If a person wanted to ask adentist these questions, it's
they'll have more information bylistening to one podcast
sometimes than traditionaldentists.
And I'm in the ADA still, whichmakes me they just posted that
fluoride's safe and effective,so that's why I'm staying in.
(09:50):
I want to be a vocal leader, avocal advocate.
For that I'm still in the ADAjust to be there, but I think
the dues are not that much to bepart of, so I could be a fly on
the wall in some places, butanyway, it's my passion.
I've had other podcasts thatpeople wanted to listen to.
(10:10):
My one I did on the WestonPrice on nourishing traditions
was very good I thought received, because she brought me down
different paths that maybe Imight not have talked about.
But I could just keep talking.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, definitely, the fluoride kind of was a joke for
all of you.
We actually, I think theconference where we last saw
each other in person, we had theactual head lawyer for the very
few people actually know aboutthe lawsuit that finished in
February but was actually ruledon in September and it is the
largest lawsuit against fluoride, the biggest kind of public
health lawsuit I think in thehistory of public health.
(10:51):
Maybe I'm overseeing a littlebit, but I don't think that much
.
There's been a lot ofcontroversy.
Many of you who listen to thispodcast know my thoughts about
fluoride and there's again beencontroversy and my opinion
doesn't come because I'm aconspiracy theorist.
It becomes because of all theresearch and the education I've
got surrounding that.
(11:11):
And so this lawsuit came outsaying that it was not
reasonable fluoride specificallyin water.
It is not reasonable.
It poses an unreasonable riskfor children and infants, for
neurotoxicity.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, if there was an effective dose, it's way higher
if there is at all efficacy andthe problem with the EPA and
the.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
FDA and the World Health and all these
organizations.
Not one of these majororganizations could present any
evidence about the safety offluoride.
They were all spouting.
There's 30,000 articles sayingthat it promotes, prevents decay
and I think there may be alittle evidence that it
topically does, but it does thisby killing bacteria right.
And when it gets incorporatedinto the enamel it's like the
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same thing when people go onFosamax for osteoporosis.
You get these pockets of boneor enamel surrounded by other
enamel, but it's not healthy andany dentist can tell you when
they're trying.
If you try to bond to a toothwith fluorosis, it's almost
impossible, it's very difficultand it's unsightly.
And again, the neurotoxicityand problematic.
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And the problem, especially inthe water, is that we don't
realize what the dose is.
So a baby in a baby bottle isgetting a far higher dose than
an adult and that's really theproblem.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I've been speaking
.
I speak about it in the one way, which is was cited, that there
may be like 400, 000 orprobably more people that use
infant formula which has to bemixed with water.
So that's where you get in thedoses.
That's super high.
It's not going to work verywell.
(13:03):
Anyway, yeah, I saw fluorosistoday and, just for your
audience, it doesn't have to bebrown stain, it's very often
it's just white, really brightwhite patches on teeth, which is
presents in a.
It's more of a modeling, looklike marble kind of idea.
But it's sad when there's aphysical thing with if it didn't
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really necessarily help at all.
There are stories where thekids get hold of the little
pills which they used topediatricians used to give and
and they overdose on that stuff.
And the cochran before justcame out and that really
probably is the nail in thecoffin there, because it's
really a a group.
I guess it's very legit interms of their body of
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scientists.
Yeah, and that's the otherthing.
We keep ignoring the stuff thatcomes out and if it's not
convenient research, then theyput lines through it or
something or they put on theside and yeah, you can even see
how that went down over thepandemic in terms of a lot of
things.
So, anyway, I enjoy talkingabout this and my heart breaks
(14:12):
for, like, I want to be aninnocent.
For so long and I'm part ofthis group of people that just
are put their blinders on andthey don't really want to hear.
I've been giving people of TomMcGuire's book.
I gave cases of those books outin my town and I said, no, you
don't have to bring it back.
Give it to someone who has.
When they laugh, you see theirmercury in their mouth.
(14:34):
That's the biggest thing, Ithink, to make someone healthier
.
You can't argue getting thatout.
It has to be taken out safely,which is some of your community
may know that or be aware ofthat already that there's a
protocol that's been researchedpretty well by outside people in
the academy about how to do itcarefully.
So the particles are emitting.
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The little chunks that come offthat you can't even see that
are six microns Mercury's comingoff that, and we also know that
the way traditional dentistsare doing it might be
re-inoculating patients withmore, more levels that are
terrible.
So we're isolating with hepafilters and all kinds of that's
on your probably on your websitemy website but when you're
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looking for a holistic dentist,you want to find out if they're
certified in smart protocol, andso we do all that and in fact,
we add things.
If we find something to behelping.
We always add.
Chlorella might be one, but weuse the charcoal.
That's another where, hopefully, maybe with this new
administration, we can get achelator that would work very
well.
That we know about.
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That's really not on the marketyet, but anyway, he mentioned
key rotation in his tweet.
So I think that there's anunderstanding that our body
burden is such that you have todo certain things, and in fact,
I know he has got through keyration.
He got all his amalgams outyears ago speaking about Kennedy
.
But it's just being honest aboutthe research, honest about what
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something tells you if it's notconvenient to what you're
selling.
It's hard when you do a studyto show that this something's
not safe and it's not, and andit's true it's not safe and or
vice versa, those thatinformation is not great for
some people on the one side ofit, but when we're thinking
about human health, um, we'relike you started the show, it's.
(16:23):
It's a moment where you're likewhat can I do so.
You have to look at I use thatphrase low hanging fruit.
You have to change your shampooand your soap and try to clean
up the house and not get supercrazy.
But when you're changing yourdiet, try to think about what's
the quality food, what's thewhat nutrient-dense food is?
What we say Nutrient-dense isthe opposite of the highly
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processed foods that mostAmericans are eating now.
So 70% of the calories thathumans are eating in our country
are highly processed or highlyprocessed, which means it strips
out all your B vitamins andyour things that would oxidize
and would be going bad on theshelf.
I mean, all these things madesense, but as soon as we learned
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that it didn't make sense, weshould change it and tell the
public about it.
Because I'd been in the ADA,like I said, and I remember 20
years ago I said we shouldreally put advocate for on soda
cans like a tobacco and it'scauses cavities and they're like
we can't do that because theygive money for our stadiums and
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this and billboards, you know.
So anyway, it's just, it's astrange thing when you start to
look where the money flows andso people say we're taking
advantage of people taking outtheir mercury.
I could argue that all day longthat it's it's reasonable cost
for something that could behelping you lifelong definitely
helping you lifelong.
But some other comorbidity,that associated with it being in
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your body, the white cells youcan talk about it more, probably
better than I have I can, butthe white cell count goes down,
the microbiomes completelychanged and more plaque and all
those types of things happeningtoo.
So, yeah, I feel great going towork.
My team is they eat it up.
I think now we have HealthyStart for airway with kids and
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seeing kids and we're justtrying hard.
We're fighting the teens withthe energy drinks and there's
another one every day likepractically oh, you hear about
this nation, I'm like looking itup.
My son sends me like somethinghe might want to drink and I
look it up.
But the fake sugars aresomething that we look for too
and we have to be careful aboutacidity of these products, even
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if they don't have sugar.
We're a weird bunch that thinksa little bit too much like when
you go to italy you could justthink about the pasta and you
probably doesn't have gluten andyou can enjoy that, and in our
country you can't pick up food.
That's not every fast foodindustry, every fast food
company has been shown to haveheavy metals in their food.
(19:00):
Is that true?
And I read the papers I'm like,yeah, this seems to be a
problem.
I don't even go out to fastfood anymore at all.
I make most of my food, butanyway, it's a little depressing
sometimes when you think aboutit.
But then there's this light andthis golden age possibly, and
maybe we can be honest abouteverything.
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Your cholesterol is high.
Maybe we should do this and nottake a statin, and sometimes
the physicians are very oftentheir standard of care that
they'll get in trouble for notdoing the standard of care which
, if you really look at allthese things like cholesterol or
hypertension, they all getchanged when, honestly, I don't
(19:42):
want to get so political, but itseems to me there's a moving
goal post on some of these itemsthat we look at that we can
test for.
I just don't want to be part ofthat.
I try to enlighten people aboutit.
Since I do bone surgery, I'mdoing surgery on jaw bones.
We're concerned.
Maybe you can talk about thebisphosphonates.
We can talk about that.
I'm also dealing with someonewith osteoradionecrosis in her
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jaw and they do thesesophisticated surgeries and they
radiate the jaw and it killsteeth, bone and the person's
alive.
But they're really suffering intheir mouth with that and phil
malika and all the ozone group,that of people that are teaching
that ozone um is so beneficial.
(20:30):
it's like hyperbaric oxygenlocally, I would say.
Would you say that, yeah, itdoes kill these pathogens where
your immune system can't get to,and places it does crawl, like
I've heard schallenberger saysit can go 2.2 or 3 centimeters
into places.
So it definitely does ascattering kind of thing.
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It doesn't have any breakdownproducts that are negative.
It's water, oxygen,hydroperoxide, so it's very safe
and I like those to beintroduced into accoutrement
that the medical establishmentwants to.
We had a nice lecture at theAcademy on hyperbaric oxygen.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And most countries are using it, except for ours.
Right, but it is one of thebest things that I ever learned.
So I had a patient justyesterday say to me you know,
that injection that you gave meof that oxygen stuff, she was
like holy cow.
That injection that you gave meof that oxygen stuff, she was
like holy cow.
That was amazing.
I can't believe how good I feel.
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And she was like it was likenot right away, but 48 hours.
And I said exactly right,because unlike a drug I said
unlike a steroid that would stopinflammation or stop a napher
reaction, we are stimulatingyour body to heal itself.
I said and this is why it's soeffective, without any of the
side effects that we see withnormal drugs.
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We are enhancing your body'sability to heal and that is the
goal of most of us holistic,biologic people.
We are looking at the body andsaying how can we take or what
are the burdens on a person'simmune system that we can remove
so that the body can healitself?
Because that's how you reallyget resolution.
Unfortunately, in Westernmedicine traditional medicine
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and dentistry we're all tryingto just kill the bad and just
manage symptoms.
Right, and those of us who arelike is there a better way?
We don't want to managesymptoms.
Obviously we're going to removedecay and do the fillings and
all the things that a typicaldentist will do.
But then we're also thinkingwhy did you develop that cavity
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and why are you having theseinfections?
Right, because if we reallyunderstand the why, if we talk
about that terrain, which it'sall connected, then we can
really help our patients.
I had another patient yesterdaywho came in for a routine
restoration, a removal ofamalgam, and her blood pressure
was very high.
So I don't even think alldentists are even checking
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people's blood pressure, whichis patients often see the
dentist way more than thephysician, and so that is
something super simple and easythat your assistants can do to
monitor that.
And her blood pressure was 200over 110.
And I used the wrist one, thenthe, and then I got out the old
fashioned step.
this because I said wow, that'sreally.
(23:17):
Let me just double check.
I don't always love just thewrist ones.
And she said oh yes, I was inthe emergency room last week
because my blood pressure washigh so they gave me a fourth
blood pressure medication.
I was like, oh my Lord, what isthe definition of insanity,
doing the same thing over andexpecting a different result?
So I said to her I said listen,I'm like, even though this is a
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routine amalgam removal, if any, despite all of the mitigation
techniques we use, if any ofthis amalgam gets into your
system, I'm very concerned foryour blood pressure.
So I was like, and even shesaid my doctor okayed this
feeling.
I said I believe blood pressureis due to inflammation.
There is an inflammation,whether it's from an infection
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or some toxin that is causingthat.
So I don't want to add burdento the body Again, even with all
my mitigation techniques.
If any bit of that getsanywhere, that could set you
into a stroke or something likethis.
I said so.
I sent her a lot of information.
I said I want you to read aboutthis.
I'm like I would love them totest you for some infections or
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toxins, because there are simpleurine tests that we can do that
look for toxicities and heavymetals and all of these things,
because just giving person moreand more meds is not solving.
I said your body is increasingyour blood pressure to try to
get oxygen somewhere.
There's somewhere in your bodythat needs more oxygen and so
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it's raising your blood pressure.
We're going to use all thismedication to try to stop what
your body is naturally doing.
I'm like it just is not ahealthy way to go about solving
these problems.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, yeah, and that's not unusual for meds.
I mean, usually it's one or two.
But yeah, the mercury opens upgap junctions and endothelial
lining, my thing.
I kind of joke with my kids whodabble in the holistic with
podcasts and stuff I talk about.
It's always the mitochondriaand we know that powerhouse of
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the cell, the mitochondria inall these different systems it
sells.
And then in those systems weknow mercury attaches to the
electron transport chain and soit is always.
It's such a little actuallyHuggins called it the devil
because it does go intodifferent places where it
shouldn't be.
It stores our bodies areamazing and terrain tries to
(25:33):
protect itself, so it willdeposit in places maybe that are
less someone like me who's thin, it's the fiber on nerves or
fat.
So it's going to go there andso you have to be careful.
Also, we do this for us in ourfamilies.
We do holistic.
We can be a good dentist andsafe for ourselves, something
(25:56):
people don't.
It's a little selfish to talkabout yourself, but my team is
protected and we're protected.
But yeah, it is so we.
So that's a good example.
There's so many people with highblood pressure.
So you see, someone with highblood pressure you don't say you
can make them better.
You just say let's get this onenuisance out of here.
I had a guy who had aconcussion and epilepsy and he
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had one amalgam but he waselectric sensitive.
I'm like let's just get thatone tooth taken care of.
He only had one amalgam andjust see what happens, but he
can't be near electrical towersand stuff because he had a grand
mal.
I'm not saying I can get youbetter from your seizures, but
let's get this off and let's eatbetter.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I feel very passionate about is just sharing
to my own health.
So just sharing all theeducation that I've had, that
I've learned and ultimatelyallow patients to decide what's
best for them.
And we're here to do it safelyand provide alternatives.
Like you said, I would never doan extraction anymore without
ozone and PRF.
It is just astounding thehealing.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, I know you talked to John about that, the
protocol.
It almost seems like it's scarywhen you think about what could
happen when you just take atooth out without doing these
things.
And I'm learning about, like Itold you about the histology.
I'm friends with Dr Pakou Jerryhas been doing all those
research projects with ischemicbone, with Dr Hans Lechner from
Germany and other people.
The histology really tells thehistory of how something got.
(27:33):
So the histopathology, howsomething became what it is.
Yeah, I actually visited Germanybecause I want to get a Cavitao
, maybe hopefully the newinstrumentation, but we were
just chit-chatting and I had allmy little drawings I was
showing him.
Visited germany because I wantto get a cavitao, maybe
hopefully the newinstrumentation, but we were
just chit-chatting and I had allmy little drawings I was
showing him.
But I was talking about howthere's a, there's I do a
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timeline with it, like a arch,like a rainbow instead of a
cross, because what you can dois stack the rainbows and you
could put different factors.
This is my creation.
I'm a kind of an artist, but Itry to write and then draw.
But the idea is that you haveall these added things that you
can add up to to get the womanwho's 45 or who has cavitations
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and that she has no amalgam, shehas nothing, but she has
fibromyalgia or something likethat.
So these are the things we see.
So it's just you and I are.
We're really blessed because wecan help people in ways maybe
other dentists don't, but we'rejust guides.
We're like one of my friendssays I saved his life One of my
patients who's a friend, it justwe love.
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We love that kind of stuff andit was with ozone and his lip
would never heal and I don'tknow.
I just feel like we can bethere and we are healers.
And if you believe in otherthings, maybe we've always been
healers, I don't know.
But there's so many things wethink about and so many rabbit
holes we go down.
We had a lecture of someonetalking about emotions with
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cavities in the mouth.
I'm like, show me the evidence.
I wanted to learn about it, butit's interesting.
With cavities in the mouth, I'mlike, show me the evidence.
I wanted to learn about it, butit's interesting.
It makes you open to everything.
That's a possibility.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That's a possibility, never 100% of anything.
So I'm curious with your studyof the histology.
Oftentimes you'll look at anx-ray right, especially a 3D
x-ray, and we see an old rootcanal and maybe there's a little
radiolucency or a darkeningaround the root tip and I say,
is that healed, a healed lesion?
Is that still problematic tothe immune system?
If you saw, let's say, number19 root canal, do you see the
(29:36):
radiolucency or on the mesialtip, what's your thought process
when you're seeing that?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Okay.
So if you want to go to thehistology on it, what I've
learned and it is funny to justtalk about things like we're
students and we're all giddyabout it because it is really
exciting, actually it's sillybut it's exciting too but so
it's like a little, it's a cyst,it's a little epithelial ball
and within that ball becomes asituation that you already
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mentioned, which is it's notoxygenated.
So it is this.
It used to be called focalinfections, which the endodontic
community made verboten.
You can't say focal infectionanymore.
It's not on their website.
On their website they saythat's been disproven and stuff.
So everybody tries to hedge totheir old ways.
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But for all intents andpurposes, that little ball I
look through and it's 3D and youlook at what it has around it.
Typically the bone is alreadychanging because that micro
environment's like created anacidity, created, heat created.
It's actually called atrophic.
So it has fat, fibroblasts andepithelium and I'm sure there's
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some macrophages you can get in.
It depends on if it's aperioendo I don't want to get
into that with people listeningto us but for a perioendo.
So if there's periodontaldisease with a root canal, the
epithelium goes all the way fromthe gum, all the way down the
side of the ligament.
That's why we see those Jshapes.
So someone might not have any.
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You could do percussion, theymight not have any pain.
But the other thing I've learnedand maybe you've had this
insight too is there's scleroticbone, which is the opposite of
osteo or necrotic bone.
So sclerotic bone is anautoimmune, it's an immune
problem.
It's an osteoimmune problem.
So there's a reinforcing andthat's what I think about.
It's like there's walls createdbecause there's cortical bone
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being formed over time.
You know that it's wallingitself off and trying to protect
itself.
If you see an advanced lesion,you'll see doming up in the
sinus and you'll see a piece ofcortical bone that was never
there or probably was neverthere until that situation.
Our bodies are great at doingsomething to isolate it.
That's what I would say.
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And I just have to see how thatprogress, how it's progressing,
and then you say to yourselfwhat other systemic problems do
they have and can you relate itback?
So I just say we could considerthis.
And of course I have thesecharts all over the place and
this one's probably familiar toyou.
But I'm very open and I thinkwhat happens to us is patients
(32:14):
say, wow, I never talked to adentist like this and they start
opening up about other things.
And I always tell people onexams that some of the
statistics on women like one inthree women or one in five men
have been assaulted in some wayor had some traumas.
So we're getting really closeto their aura around their face
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and head and neck and all that.
So we have to be really carefulabout those things.
I tell people when I'm doingsurgery I just want you to
remember I know that I'm tryingto take care of you, but I know
that.
So you get a rapport with themin a different way and sometimes
you have to also have grace,because some people are so sick
that they're not nice.
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They're not nice and so you tryto be okay with that and you
say this is our protocol noF-bombs in my office, please,
and that kind of thing.
Try to regain some comp.
Say we are here to help youthrough this and have some grace
in their situation at themoment.
But we also you have thesepeople that are red flags and
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they just continue to not let.
Maybe they don't do whatthey're supposed to do in their
part.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Here's what I know right this tooth is dead,
there's no more blood flow thereand in situations like that,
bacteria, fungus, all thesethings can happily live there.
They can overgrow.
20% of your lymph is in thehead and neck, so it's
potentially that those toxinsare draining to the rest of the
body.
But the most important thing,like you said, is what is that
person's health condition rightNow?
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If it's somebody who has abunch of autoimmune conditions,
totally inflamed, okay, we'rethinking we really probably want
to take that up, especially ifit's on that meridian.
You showed the tooth meridianchart.
If they are having IBS, toothnumber 19 is a lower molar,
that's on the intestinalmeridian.
Versus the person who has zerohealth health issues, is
perfectly healthy, doesn't haveany overt signs of inflammation
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in the mouth.
That's a different story andit's still here's what I know.
Taking out a tooth, it's foreverRight and it's going to
compromise your ability to chew.
And I said but we really needto monitor it because if this
starts growing, if you developany symptoms and some biologics
may say that's terrible, allroot canals have to go Again.
I really think we have toremember that we're treating
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people, not teeth, and I thinksometimes we've lost a lot of
trust in healthcare becausewe're dictating to people
Instead of, like you said, I usethe word partner.
I tell my patients we're apartner, right, I'm here to
educate you and share myexpertise, but ultimately it's
your body, so it has to be yourdecision.
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And it's nice that we have somuch great technology in
dentistry today, with intraoralphotos and all these fancy
scanners and these 3D x-rays, sowe can really.
Patients don't have to trust usas much, because we can show
them the evidence which makesfor good partnerships.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, I don't know if this has happened to you
locally, but the people are.
Our colleagues are a little bitintimidated by the fact that
our parking lots are full allthe time and that kind of thing,
people coming from all over theplace.
But the truth is we have a role.
But the truth is we have a role, our doctors as well.
(35:29):
But I I try not to alienate,try to not be like holier than
thou in terms of what I say topatients too, and I let them
come to their own conclusion.
But yet when you educate themas an, I say patient, I'm your
advocate.
I say too, even though you're,you're paying me, but the, the
idea is that I'm your advocateand that's really what I care
about is your mouth.
I'm recommending like water.
(35:49):
We're learning about waterpicks Now.
The new probiotics for themouth is really interesting.
I got back to tongue scrapingwith patients and I'm like, oh,
no brainers, you sometimes justhave to go back on what we
originally learned and and, uh,dispense with the stuff.
That's not really true and thatwas more related to some other
(36:11):
reason.
I have no idea if it's moneyalways, or if it's control.
I have no idea.
But I just want to be a goodperson to think and a good
doctor and love my patients inthis way.
That is unique.
I feel like I'm also evolvingas well in my ability to sense
the terror sometimes that peoplehave or the poor association
(36:35):
they have with dentists, becausethe dentists are trying to just
do what they learn.
Unfortunately, the informationhasn't gotten into the
educational system learned.
Unfortunately, the informationhasn't gotten into the
educational system and I don'tlike to just I love my school.
I I think they probably coulddo.
I think everyone could dobetter than they're doing.
And when, then?
When we can.
Unfortunately, I think thingshad to be related to like in
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with with corporate dentistry,it seems like money flows into
chairs in the schools anddifferent things like coca-c
building, your track and fieldthing or whatever.
So we have to get.
What do we spend our money on?
Maybe we should think aboutthat as a nation and the
lobbyists for the industry,casey and Callie Means, wrote
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Good Energy.
That book was fantastic and shewas doing what we would do
equivalent Like why am I gettingall these cavities?
And she was sucking out theaffected sinuses during these
major surgeries.
But then is the patient gettingany better?
Maybe they'll be better for alittle while.
But if we just did that withteeth and we just took out the
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abscess and left the tooth orsomething like that might be an
example.
It's going to come back.
I don't know.
I feel like we're in adifferent role and I try to be
humble with my knowledge becauseI know it's always changing how
much I know and learn andsomething like Morley Robin
stuff that we're learning new.
That's new to me and I thinkit's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
A book called Cure where he talks a lot about
copper as one of the missingminerals in modern diets, and my
hygienist absolutely swears bythe diet.
She's in her early to mid-60sand she's never been healthier.
We took her through the cellcore.
I talked about her in podcast.
We took her through the cellcore parasite.
All of her autoimmune markerswent away.
(38:23):
The doctor was amazed butdidn't want to learn more, Just
said okay, keep doing what yourdentist does.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So all the vegetarians that might be
listening, don't take this thewrong way, but we don't think
that's the right diet.
Dental diet, like Dr Lin wrotea book on that.
It starts off with changingthat food and what your
hygienist saw or on herself,possibly, but with her patients
she'll see the microbiomechanges because you're not
(38:49):
giving them the substrates andyou're not giving them the sugar
.
And if there's insulinresistance or something going on
with the immune system withsugar, I don't know if.
But after Weston Price, melvinPage was a doctor who talked
about the balance, with themineral balance being important,
the calcium to phosphorus andsetting up the flow.
(39:09):
You didn't know.
I was this smart, did you?
Yeah, so all these things arelike.
The evidence was there and weignored it.
Why it was so good?
Why do you throw it out?
Because it was cheap orsomething, I don't know.
Anyway, the food is one of hisstops stop eating seed oil, stop
(39:29):
eating sugar, canned food,those types things that weston
price talked about.
Or weston price was very honestabout what he saw.
But the fact of the matter is,everywhere he traveled at that
moment in time was in 30s and40s.
They were.
There were a lot of moderncommunities that were not, or
modern or traditional societiesthat were still isolated
populations is what he calledthem.
(39:50):
He called them primitive people, but that doesn't mean that.
But anyway, they didn't havesugar was one of the main things
.
So our big dental thing aboutsugar is true, but now we're
learning it's feeding the wrongbubs, it's causing insulin
resistance.
So anyway, that's the wonderfulthing about what we're learning
.
We could add on to that when Ilearned something new about
(40:12):
something else Like xylitol.
People all say that's good, butyou and I probably scratch our
heads saying it is a chemical.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
It's a sugar alcohol and, like most sugar alcohol,
they disrupt the microbiome.
So, yes, it kills bacteria, butagain, that shouldn't.
That's not the ultimate goal,right?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Again, we bring it up to yeah, you bring it like you
said it earlier.
Is that a cost benefit of adrug or cost benefit like kind
of idea whether so I could saythey had crude studies on
xylitol enhancing some of thatflow of carotid flow and some of
the flow of the teeth and maybemake the plaque, maybe teeth
slick.
But is it worth it?
(40:50):
Like what's the exchange onthat?
So we're honest about that kindof stuff and if I made a
company I'd want to knoweverything was backed up.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh, now I know better and I'm doing better, and
that's I think that's to me,that's what is important.
Yes, maybe I'm not perfect atsomething, but I'm always
learning.
I'm always striving to dowhat's best for the patient's
health, and I think that's abenefit for our patients who
because most of the time I thinkthey did a study right at
Harvard it's 17 years forsomething to be published in a
(41:18):
scientific journal, for it tobecome standard of care, as
after 17 years it's not evenrelevant anymore, right, yeah,
and so people like us.
We're always looking, and thisis why we seem we get poo-pooed
sometimes by our traditionalcolleagues, because they're not
I don't know.
I often think what are theyreading?
They're reading the stuff thepharmaceutical companies are
giving them or what I don't knowyeah, I, I.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So I go in the.
I'm like the guy who goes intothe lair where all the other
people are, so I go with myfriends that I grew up in dental
school with.
So I went to an XP seminar,which is I mentioned the name,
but it doesn't matter, this istraditional.
This stuff that they teach nowis something I wouldn't do if
you paid me.
And I had a nightmare,literally at the hotel, because
(42:02):
we were learning about somethingcalled socket shield, which is
when they split a root canaltube and they leave the facial
portion or the buckle portion.
The guy did this huge case withimplants, leaving these shields
up, and that's what they'relearning, and I'm like.
So I had this literally anightmare, it's true.
I woke up and I thought, okay,oh, I learned all this great
(42:25):
dentistry, but I'm not doingthat because that's against
biological rules.
But then my hand startedletting me do it and so I
couldn't change what I was doinglike in the clinic, even though
I knew cognitive.
Anyway, it was creepy.
I don't know what that wasabout.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
So tell us a little bit about if somebody's maybe in
your area or wants to learnmore about you or your practice,
how do we get in touch with youand learn more?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, I, um, I have my website is md dental wellness
centercom.
Um, I have my podcast on thereand the podcast section.
I'm at nine, 53 nationalhighway, lavalle, maryland.
I could tell you that and youlook up my name, mark Denola
Holistic Dentist.
It'll pop up.
But we have a good, like I said, I have a one video, a couple
(43:07):
videos on there as well, but thelist.
You can listen to the podcast,which is nice.
What else Besides my website?
It's getting out the.
I have a Twitter account nowwith my name because I want to
follow.
I was following the lawsuit andFlora and Kennedy stuff and I
try to just put my two cents inthere, even though I probably
don't have big following there.
(43:27):
But I think that's where we'remaybe ultimately going to get a
little bit more truth and maybeboth sides of an argument.
If something's kooky, you justsay it's kooky, prove it's not
kooky or whatever, and that kindof thing.
So I try to refer people.
If it's too far, we all try tolook for each other.
I have my IOMT, i-a-o-m-tInternational Academy of Moral
(43:49):
Medicine, toxicology.
It's hard to answer the phonelike that, but yeah, so that
would be a place where anybodyin the world can look for
practitioners that have a littlebit of this mindset.
Then when you learn and you goto their website and you ask the
questions, you should have moreeducation to ask the right
questions.
So safe removal needs to besomething that they talk about.
(44:10):
But I'm like two hours fromPittsburgh, two hours from DC,
two hours from BaltimoreGeographically good location
because people come down.
I have a lot of Amish Mennonitepeople come from PA and so I
try to teach them, just likeeverything else, and I don't
judge them, but I say this iswhat we need to do.
(44:32):
So every population, everyperson that comes in is treated
the same.
That's what we try to do.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I hope everyone enjoyed listening to Dr Mark
here.
Look him up and listen to hispodcast.
He may have some other greatguests and other more
information and I guess we'llsee everybody on the next
episode.
Have a great rest of your day,everyone.
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