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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome to the Rotary
Spark Podcast.
I'm your host, Brian Treiger,and with me today is Neil
Hedinger from the South OklahomaCity Rotary Club.
How are you doing today, Neil?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm doing great.
A little chilly out there, nottoo icy.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, I've heard it's
going to get a little bit
warmer on Monday.
I'm looking forward to gettingoutside yeah.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour Rotary journey.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I you know like to
volunteer and do a lot of things
, and when I lived in CaliforniaI kind of over-volunteered, so
we moved to Oklahoma City.
I was looking for somethingwhere I could actually more pick
and choose With the church.
It seemed like, you know, whenthey asked, I had a hard pick
and choose With the church.
It seemed like you know, whenthey asked I had a hard time
saying no.
So with Rotary I had an easiertime to say I like to do this, I
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don't have time for that.
So I was talking to Jack Warnerand he suggested Rotary.
At the time I lived in Edmondand the idea of driving down to
South Oklahoma City was quite ajourney, even though you know
know, I left LA to get away fromdriving.
But I was glad I did.
I knew some people there and Imet a lot of from a business
point of view a lot of businesspeople that got to know a lot
about the city that way up inEdmond I knew a number of people
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so it made sense to be downhere also I taught at OCCC, so
that kind of worked inhand-in-hand too.
The funny thing is that when Ifirst the first, three meetings
I went to we had speakers andall of them were wardens from
prison and I was reallywondering what I was getting
into here and Jack says oh no,no, no, it just worked out that
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way.
So years later, when I waspresident during COVID, I made
sure we had a wide variety ofspeakers that try to hit every
different range, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But it's been a great
journey because everyone's nice
, you know, you join to help thecommunity, but it's really the
fellowship that keeps you going.
During COVID.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That was a difficult
time, we to go to zoom and
fortunately with my tech I couldhandle the zoom.
I was doing it for class tooand um, you know it was funny.
We stand up to say the pledgeof allegiance and you'd look on
the screen, you'd see all thesebellies you know, and I had a
picture of the flag up, and thenwe did the fourth, fourth, four
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truths, and, um, this is thefour-way test.
And then you know we wentthrough it.
The hard part was gettingspeakers they didn't really like
just sitting there talking,even though there was people
they just weren't used to it butwe kept it going and then,
finally, we got through thecovid stage and were able to
start meeting in person and westill kept the zoom going at
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that time it was a littledifficult.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And then slowly.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
everyone just kept
coming and no one was on Zoom,
so that worked out well.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I remember the COVID
days.
It seems like it was just acouple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It was quite a
different feeling, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
You know, we have
some older people in the group
community and in our club andthey were extremely concerned,
so they really enjoyed the Zoom,except they just didn't know
how to use it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So a lot of times I'd
either go over there or we'd be
and I'd talk them through howto set up their microphone, how
to set up the camera.
Believe it or not, there'scomputers, even though it was
only four years ago that didn'thave computer, or they didn't
have cameras, didn't havemicrophones, and so we set that
up for them too, but really thatwas their only real touch.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
They were stuck in
the house weeks at a time.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
that's when a lot of
the food and restaurants started
delivery you, you know,groceries and things, so that
opened up a whole new industrythere, not like Japan where they
couldn't get waitstaff, so theybuilt robots.
But it did change our whole, alot of our business.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And it changed school
.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know a lot of
schools at OSU.
It.
A lot of it's online.
You know the students preferthat rather than the time to
drive in to class and stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So it's interesting
how you and I have seen before
and after COVID.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So you know we got BC
and AC.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, the world's
definitely changed a lot, so
during that time I want todefinitely spend some time to
talk about your book.
Did some of the seeds getplanted then to write your book
Modern Graphic Design with AI?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, no, that was
actually a little bit later,
when AI became more prevalent.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
We had.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
AI as small areas on
some of the software you could
use generative descriptions toget things.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But slowly, and then
about a year and a half ago, in
May 23, so almost two years ago,it became free and you didn't
have to pay for it.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And so, with my
students, I started teaching
them that in the fall of 23.
And last year, a year ago,about 70% of my students in my
class in the final class whowere graduating had jobs already
and I told them, put AI graphicdesigner and no one really knew
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what it meant, but it got theirattention.
So, even though they may onlyhad a two-year degree, they got
in where it was requiring afour-year degree.
So people were interested andit's a great tool.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The class I had
brought in a client for them to
work with.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So they got
on-the-job training that way and
they used some of the AI stuffto create things and the client
chose it and so they actuallyhave printed pieces that were
created from AI.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wow, okay, and so
let's talk about some of the
tools.
I have not read the book yet,but I look forward to diving
into it after this meeting.
What are some of your favoritetools that are discussed in the
literature you may wade into?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
it.
It's pretty thick, okay, 300pages.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It shows you, even
takes you through how to sign up
for ChatGPT how to sign up forfirefly or express, my next book
coming out.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I go into some of the
others that have popped up,
like canva and figma there's alot of free ones.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know, in
microsoft word now when you type
, you have the option.
There's a little tiny icon thatpops up and you can click and
hit rewrite.
Oh, wow, okay instead.
Instead of just using the editor, which was a form of AI.
Sure.
And then Apple.
You know they've had AI for anumber of years, but they didn't
use it because everyone wasafraid of the term.
Okay, you know, there was a lotof people oh, it's going to
take over my job, it's going todo it and it will.
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You know, there are some peoplethat will lose jobs with any
kind of technical thing.
In the 1800s, when whaling went, out and oil took over.
there was that fear, you know,but every kind of change like
that it almost always makes morejobs available.
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You just have to stay with thetechnology or up with it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So the book was
written more for graphic
designers and marketers thatwanted to know about AI and
didn't want to get left behindbut didn't want to have to go
back to school, so it's atextbook to that degree and it's
a step.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
The next book I'm
working on is called marketing
design with AI is.
I mean it's for people.
If you want to do a social postand put some motion and take
some of your videos that you'vedone and made them where they
can be posted as opposed tothings that they'll re-edit it
so that you can do it so it's anew growing area.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Sure, and yeah, I've
definitely used and heard of
some of the tools.
I use Canva myself.
Even though I've used theMicrosoft Suite, I didn't even
notice that there was an AIintegration into Word
specifically.
I'm guessing that Copilot hassomething to do with it.
Well, Copilot.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
If you have a Word
subscription, you can use
Copilot for free.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, you get so many
credits.
Yeah, there's also.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Creator, which you
use to create images.
Okay.
And it works really well.
I really think Microsoft hasdone it.
They've beaten Google at this.
But if you're using Word itselfand typing, you'll see it looks
like a little tiny scroll iconup here.
Okay, and if you click on, thatit will say it gives you some
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options.
Do you want to rephrase this?
Do you want to rewrite this?
And from the very beginning.
On a blank page it'll say doyou want us to generate?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Tell us what you're
thinking about and we will
generate it for you, sure.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So you can bullet it
and it'll write it so think
about that.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm in the Division
of Arts.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Humanities and.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
English and.
Dean.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Wollstone at OCCC.
She really is knowledgeable inAI and she keeps up with it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And that's one of the
biggest things is how do we get
students still to be able towrite, because you know when you
go for a job you're going to?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
have to do some sort
of cover letter.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You're going to have
to email people.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You can't just text
clients.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Of course, and so if
you can't, write.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You can't count on
the AI because AI makes a lot of
mistakes.
In fact, chat GPT.
If you get it from you know youhave it.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Write something you
better run it through an AI
assistant that will proof it foryou.
Sure, yeah, no, and AIdefinitely picks up where my
limitations kind of start totake place with AI, start to
take place with AI at the end ofthe day, as I develop a
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relationship with the AI toolsand I start to really slow down
and understand how it interpretswhat I'm thinking and doing.
It gives me an opportunity toleverage the teamwork that's
taking place.
So at the end of the day, Iknow, you know, I start noticing
where AI is limited.
Ai starts to, you know, startnoticing where ai is limited.
Ai starts to you know, in amaybe slightly more automatic
way, understands where I'mlimited and, as long as we work
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together and I make the finalrevisions, uh, the content is so
much better than what I can doto, you know, create myself it's
amazing what it knows.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I don't know if you
ever heard of these murder
mystery dinner games uh, yes, Ihave heard of them so just for
the heck of us trying out, Isaid, okay, write a murder
mystery that takes place in um.
I gave it a locate louisianaright and it wrote all the
different characters it wrotejust made them up, yeah um
created that and when it was alldone and done, it said would
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you like a more?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
a twist at the ending
is this what you were done?
It said would you like a moretwist at the ending?
Is this what you?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
were thinking what
kind of things would you like to
change?
And so I didn't really give itmuch detail and it knew enough
about the murder mystery thingsthat it could create this, so
you could actually have a murdermystery.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Not as good as the
actual games but it was pretty
interesting that it was close.
Yeah, it made me think whereelse could you use this and do
it?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
one thing I did want
to say about rotary is you know
the we do a walk along the riverevery sunday at eight o'clock.
Anybody wants to join us wherewe pick up trash?
Okay and it's we started wasjust like a once a year thing.
What then once a month?
Now it's every sunday, you knowwe're out there and it like a
once a year thing, then once amonth.
Now it's every Sunday, you knowwe're out there.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And it's a good way
to get to know people.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
But if you are a
business and you're starting a
business, or you're new to thearea, join a Rotary, because
you're going to meet a lot ofpeople.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And I'm not saying
necessarily you're going to get
work from them.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's not a networking
, but you will get to know about
the community and what's goingon and it's great I get to meet
you because of Rotary, rightyeah.
So it will help you in so manyother ways, so I wanted to make
sure.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I talked a little bit
more about Rotary, Of course,
and it's done the same for me.
You know, I think I came withan initial expectation to do
business networking and maybegenerate some clients early on
and I realized that the only wayto make that happen is to lose
that expectation, to come in andsee what I can offer and just
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develop some authenticrelationships, not only for the
exposure but just to solidify myplatform as a person which will
help me in any area of life.
You know, it really helps aperson naturally generate social
wealth in a lot of ways and andI think that that's it's just
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fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You know you're
giving back to the community.
You're getting fellowship witha lot of other business people.
And it's nice sometimes to bearound that group and you're not
competing.
Yeah, you know, there's a lotof advantages to Rotary and when
I get people to come and I'mtrying to get them to join- I
tell them we're not the guysthat wear the hats and ride the
little motorcycles.
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You know we're out there.
But anyway, like I said, there'sa lot of things we do for the
book raising, for the schoolsand bike.
We have a bike giveaway forkids with perfect attendance,
great grades kind of things,some of the elementary schools
and just so many differentthings you can get involved with
.
And we have a lot of fun too.
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Pancake breakfast is always afun.
Everyone enjoys that.
We have Grinch there and SantaClaus and people take pictures.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Can you remind us
where the South Oklahoma City
Rotary Club meets and what time?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It's at Hidden Trails
Country Club.
It is just north of the I-240off of Pennsylvania, just north
of the I-240 off of Pennsylvania.
So if you go, north on Penn andturn west on 64th.
It'll take you right to it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Perfect Go inside.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
There's a sign
outside, sign inside and we have
a luncheon every Friday at 12o'clock.
Get there a little early andtell them you're Jack Warner's
guest.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
He'll pay for your,
you know and for anyone who's
interested in purchasing moderngraphic design with ai barnes
and noble amazon, I know ifyou're kindle unlimited
subscriber you have access tothe material, uh, anywhere else
that people can find it if youdo a searchers, I've given up
counting how many places offerit now.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So it's great, you
know and if you want to learn
more?
Go to bestdesignerwebsite.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And that's all about
the book.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And it tells you more
, and there's even a discount
code in there, so you can save alittle money.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Perfect, and this
will be posted on our district's
social media page.
You can find us on FacebookRotary District 5750.
You'll also have access to allof that stuff on rotary5750.org.
I want to thank everyone forlistening today.
I want to thank RotaryInternational.
Happy birthday, rotaryInternational.
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This week you turn 120.
Thank you to ITSpark forsupporting this endeavor and
thank you to the MetropolitanLibrary System for giving us an
opportunity to make this happenevery week.
And have a great weekend,everyone.
You.