March 22, 2025 • 34 mins
What happens when ancient mystical wisdom meets modern business strategy? In this eye-opening conversation, Brian Triger sits down with Marisa Yakutis, a self-described "business alchemist" who brings together astrology, numerology, and practical business acumen to help entrepreneurs transform their ventures and lives.
Marisa breaks down what it means to be a business alchemist – someone who uses elemental understanding to bring balance and transformation. She explains how recognizing whether someone has dominant fire (action-oriented, impulsive), earth (grounded, practical), air (intellectual, communicative), or water (emotional, intuitive) energies can reveal both superpowers and blind spots in business and life. Far from limiting people to categories, this knowledge empowers them to work consciously with their natural tendencies while developing balance.
The conversation thoughtfully addresses the skepticism surrounding astrology, with Marisa sharing how her own Christian background ultimately complemented rather than conflicted with her astrological practice. She dispels common misconceptions, particularly around newspaper horoscopes, explaining that real astrology involves analyzing complete birth charts rather than just sun signs. What emerges is a nuanced view of how understanding your "elemental blueprint" can create greater self-awareness and compassion.
Perhaps most fascinating is the practical application of these seemingly esoteric concepts. Marisa describes how she helps clients identify communication styles for difficult conversations, recognize their natural strengths, and find greater purpose in their work. "Having purpose and seeing that in yourself changes everything," she shares, describing the transformation she witnesses when people understand the unique gifts they bring to the world.
Whether you're a spiritual seeker or practical business mind, this conversation invites you to explore how different perspectives can open new pathways to understanding yourself and others. As Marisa puts it, her goal isn't to be treated as a guru but to serve as "a guide walking beside you," helping people discover their own answers and potential.
Ready to discover your elemental superpower? Listen now to explore how ancient wisdom might inform your modern life and business in surprisingly practical ways.
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Brian Triger (00:24):
Welcome.
Welcome to the Rotary SparkPodcast.
I'm your host, brian Schreiger,and with me today is my
longtime friend, marisa Yucoudis, from Of the Sea Alchemy.
Let's just dive into aself-introduction.
(00:44):
Tell us about yourselfisa willdo?
Marisa Yakutis (00:49):
that's a loaded question, but I do a lot of
things.
I'm kind of a jane of alltrades in a way.
Um, as you know, I'm anastrologer, I'm a numerologist.
I also help business owners,not only through these methods,
but, um, just streamline theirbusinesses with my tech
knowledge and things like that.
Basically, I'm a mystic, butI'm also a business alchemist.
(01:14):
I refer to myself as a businessalchemist in a variety of ways,
just the way I supportentrepreneurs, but also I bring
in that, you know, splicing themysticism in order to really
up-level the things that they'redoing as well.
Brian Triger (01:30):
Tell us a little bit more about what a business
alchemist does.
Marisa Yakutis (01:35):
So really, you know, I'm not talking about
mixing actual potions, as onewould consider an alchemist.
This is about transformation,really, um, and alchemist gets
thrown around a little bit inspiritual communities.
But the reason I chose to usethat term is because I literally
use well, I would sayfiguratively the elements to
support myself and other peopleon a personal and a business
(02:00):
basis.
So, for instance, uh, you know,we have earth, air, fire and
water.
Let's say, someone has a wholelot of fire.
That can be a pretty spicyperson and they know what they
want and they take action veryquickly.
But if there's too much of thatelement, for instance, they can
just be too impulsive andalmost think of a wildfire out
(02:22):
of control.
They don't really haveboundaries, they don't really
have boundaries, they don'treally have structure.
And so that's when I bring inthose missing elements and to
support in a really holistic way.
Brian Triger (02:34):
That's really cool .
From an outsider's perspectiveand more of a kind of a skeptic
mindset, I just visualizeelements being used in maybe an
abstract way and you having aninherent ability to create more
balance in someone's life bybeing able to objectively
(02:57):
analyze some personality traitsand maybe organization and lack
of organization in differentareas of life.
Uh, that may be entirely basedon internal assumption, but
would some of that be accuratefrom an outsider's understanding
?
Marisa Yakutis (03:18):
That is accurate .
Uh, basically, when I, you know, use these terms, uh, when I
really get into it with people,I do describe traits of each
element and why they need eachother and how they flow together
and what it looks like if oneis dominant, too dominant, and
one is lacking.
I kind of call it yourelemental superpower and I want
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people to own it.
I don't want anyone to think,oh no, I'm too to this or to
that, own it.
I don't want anyone to think,oh no, I'm too to this or to
that.
I want to say, look, how can webalance everything out and how
could we add to what you'remissing here?
And what that looks likepractically is?
For some people could be I needstructure, I need a to do list,
I need software to keep me ontrack in my daily life.
For others, it may mean gosh, Ithink I need to be more
(04:02):
open-minded and I think I needto to learn more, um.
And for others it may be gosh,I really need to add more
spirituality into my life, alittle more magic, a little bit
be, a little bit more go withthe flow, and things like that.
Brian Triger (04:18):
That's really fascinating and it really ties
into, you know, one of Rotary'scauses.
You're really assistingbusinesses and individuals with
your understanding, also withyour organization, with
promoting peace, and sometimes Iget somewhat cautious in
talking about anything spiritualbecause of Rotary clearly not
(04:43):
being a political or religiousorganization, but I do see that
there's really nothing againstspirituality.
A lot of our organizations, orat least our clubs, meet in
churches, they pray, and thereare a variety of different
things.
That kind of what I'd like tosee maybe be some gray areas
(05:07):
within an organization thatclaims to not be religious, and
that's not necessarily a badthing, but it does touch into
the fact that we are allspiritual in different ways ways
(05:32):
.
I'd really like to maybe diginto the stigma that comes up
with astrology.
Since you've been doing thisfor a while, do you have some
ideas as to why there's such astrong stigma tied to astrology
specifically?
Marisa Yakutis (05:42):
I do.
I mean, I've kind of heard itall and I'm a very I'm a thinker
, I am a logical person.
I love to hear differentperspectives and provide what my
experiences and the things I'vestudied as well.
And I should start by saying Iwas born Christian.
You know, I was in a Christianfamily, preachers on both sides
from the Bible, belt, all ofthat, and so I come from that
(06:06):
background and I've come backinto the teachings of Jesus.
Actually, I've really resonatedwith that at this point in my
life.
And the two don't have to be,you know, exclusive.
You can be a Christian andfollow astrology.
There are many Christianastrologers.
I know there's conflictinginformation in the Bible about
divination, which astrologyfalls under, but to me, you know
(06:30):
you look at the three wise men.
They followed a star, they wereastrologers in the Bible.
So to me, and also you know,there's been pharaohs that have
been guided by astrology.
There's been kings that havebeen guided by astrology.
They have their personalastrologers, christian people
(06:52):
Henry VIII, princess Diana,these people used astrologers to
guide them, and so to me, youdon't have to pick one or the
other, and so part of it is someof the mentionings in the bible
that, um, that mentioneddivination, but I feel that is
misconstrued a bit, because weknow that that people did
(07:13):
practice astrology then at thosetimes.
Um, and then the other stigmawould be someone reading these
general newspaper horoscopessaying, oh gosh, that's not me
at all.
No, I'm not a Libra, that's,that doesn't fit me whatsoever.
So they throw the baby out withthe bathwater.
What I look at is the entirechart and there's so many things
(07:35):
going on.
You're not just your son's sign.
So, for instance, brian, you'rean Aries son.
You know that.
I think you know that sun, youknow that?
Yeah, I think you know that.
We've.
We've had a couple ofconversations.
Yeah, yes, so, but then I lookat other things.
Then I look at your moon sign,which is actually taurus.
Okay, that's earth.
Aries is fire, so you have anearth moon.
(07:57):
You're also a virgo rising.
That is earth.
And so when I saw your chart, Isaid there it is.
I knew there was other stuffgoing on, because you are such
in my mind, in my eyes, you're avery down-to-earth person,
you're a very practical personand that really shows that earth
(08:17):
that you have going on, earthis your dominant element.
So on paper, someone goes oh,he's an Aries, he's all fire.
No, not necessarily.
You're actually dominantlyearth.
That is your superpower.
You create structure and, as aVirgo rising, you communicate,
you bring community together,you serve.
You know all of that.
And so then people start to gooh, wait a minute.
(08:40):
That does kind of feel like me.
So that's the stigma there is.
You know these people that aretoo eager to say my horoscope or
whatever I read online wasinaccurate, because they're only
looking at one small piece ofthe pie and so what I show
people is the entire piece andit literally looks the chart
looks like a pie.
(09:00):
I look at the entire thing andI say, well, this is how you
communicate in life, or this iswhere you thing and I say, well,
this is how you communicate inlife, or this is where you have
structure in your life, or thisis where you need structure in
your life, this is how you arein a relationship.
I look at the whole thing andonce people leave even the most
skeptical skeptics, once theyleave a reading they just kind
(09:21):
of go Okay, I bite, like I getit, I get it.
There are changed peoplebecause, because they understand
now and they see the biggerpicture the time with
(09:48):
perspectives that are outside ofmy own.
Brian Triger (09:49):
But if I latch onto the stigma, I'm literally
judging your metaphoricalglasses, the lens, one of, if
not one of the primary lensesthat you see people and that you
see the world through.
How am I supposed to connectwith you If I don't acknowledge
the fact that everyone has adifferent perspective?
(10:09):
Like my lens may be more techbased, because that's the space
that I live in, it doesn'tprovide the entire picture, but
it's a unique perspective with acertain lens.
And then you know I have aweakness tied to maybe more
traditional spirituality.
And you know I have a weaknesstied to maybe more traditional
(10:29):
spirituality.
Sometimes I give people inreligious communities a little
bit more of a hard time and Ikind of go the scientific route.
But again, I'm kind of beingcritical of the lens when what I
really need to do is, you know,maybe taking a skewed variation
of what's said in the Bible,but maybe I just need to kind of
wipe away some of the dirt frommy own glasses, essentially,
(10:53):
and just appreciate the factthat there's a lens on the other
side that is looking into me orat least actively deciding hey,
I'm going to spend this timeand I'm going to use my
perspective to communicate withyou which is is is so precious.
(11:13):
I don't always remember that,like you know, whether it's
through objectification orthrough, uh, so many different
things, maybe unmanaged stress,like I could probably list a
hundred different things thatwould basically maybe create a
little bit of fear and give mean excuse to latch onto that
stigma.
But but yeah, no, thank you forkind of opening up my eyes a
(11:37):
little bit.
What about you Tell us a littlebit, if you're willing to tell
us a little bit about your ownchart is and also maybe the
challenges of of viewing oneselfLike did did that take?
Did that take a little bit moretime to have that type of like
introspection?
Marisa Yakutis (11:55):
Well, really, I started out learning my own
chart, and that's what I advisepeople to do who are new to it,
because we're well let's.
Let's be honest, we're allself-absorbed.
We're built away.
Before we start looking atother people Right, we want to
know what we're built with.
Before we start looking atother people right, we want to
know what we have.
So, I started studying my chart.
But then from there I startedstudying, you know, historical
figures, celebrities, and it'sreally fun when you approach it
(12:18):
that way.
At least for me it was reallyfun to do that.
But it's kind of a know thyself, you know.
So I studied my chart and Istudied and I verified and it
really resonated with me, somuch so that then you kind of
branch out to family and youlook at their situation and go,
wow, this is, this is veryaccurate and it helps me give
myself and others grace.
(12:40):
I don't say, you know, it's anexcuse, like, oh, that person
has this planet in this area,you know I'll give them a pass.
No, it just helps me understandmore so that I don't get so
triggered or angered whensomebody approaches me in a
certain way or when I myselfhave a certain behavior.
I kind of go, look, I was bornwith this blueprint.
Yes, we all have free will.
But wow, let me just givemyself a moment of compassion
(13:03):
here, because I'm working withwhat I have, and awareness is
key.
Just to be aware, so that youcould work with what you have.
It's, it's.
There are no curses here,that's nothing like that, um,
but just working with what youhave really helps.
You just give yourself afreaking break, and others too,
um.
(13:23):
So that's where I come from.
It's I'm a compassionate personand I really, really try to put
myself in other people's shoesand see their perspectives, and
astrology has greatly helped medo that and that's part of how I
bring it um into business andinto partnerships and things
like that, because I say, oh,okay, this is what your
co-worker is born with and thisis how maybe you could talk to
(13:45):
them about this specific subject.
You know, this is, this ismaybe you know a better way to
communicate with that person.
Um, and that's just an exampleof practical, practical uses in
both business and in yourpersonal life, where you could
kind of go oh all right, thisperson has mercury here or
wherever it is, and maybe thisis how I could broach this
(14:05):
difficult subject with them in away that maybe will not trigger
them.
Brian Triger (14:10):
Interesting.
It's, uh, it's such a different, it's it's such a different
world, but it it, you know, as Iopened myself up to it, it's,
uh, it's kind of nice to to findsome of the similarities.
It gives me a little bit morepush to maybe go past the
(14:32):
resistance, not only inastrology but kind of other
areas of life right, like itreally is okay to, you know,
open myself up to alternativeideas and it's just refreshing.
I think you know we werespeaking about this earlier One
of the things that you know.
We've known each other for atleast 20, 21 years back in, you
(14:57):
know, from the.
MySpace era, and one thing thatI appreciate about you is that
you know I'm sure, just likeanyone else, you have your own
stuff.
Everyone has issues that theyneed to deal with.
It's part of life.
But you've always brought agreat deal of peace and I just
feel you know in my bones thatnot only is there a good part of
(15:20):
you that wants to bring outpeace, but also connection, or
at least the awareness ofconnection, throughout our
species, and you know you'vejust opened up about so many
different things and I trust you, so there aren't a lot of
people out there that I'd wantto, and it's because I'm
skeptical.
Right when I look at astrology,I think about those horoscopes
(15:43):
and I think about you know, Ithink about those horoscopes and
I think about you.
Know, I had a medium clientonce, you know, doing some tech
work and that was a very bizarreexperience.
But and I won't go into thatstory, but that doesn't
necessarily represent the entirelens or the entire trade, so to
speak.
Like spirituality is vast.
There are so many differentcomponents and a spectrum.
Marisa Yakutis (16:08):
Yeah, it's definitely a spectrum as well.
Brian Triger (16:09):
Sure.
So how did you?
How did you?
Has it always been part of yourlife?
How did you stumble upon it?
Marisa Yakutis (16:16):
Well, I was one of those kids who was interested
in everything.
I should say I'm a Gemini sonand I'm just a cure.
I've always been curious, Ilove to read, I love to study,
and so I was always open tomysticism.
And it really started withbeing in the church.
That's spiritual, it ismysticism in a way, and so I
think that helped me have thatfoundation.
I don't look back, you know myparents did leave the church,
(16:38):
but I don't look back in, youknow, in regret.
I'm glad I have a spiritualfoundation.
That does help.
And so later on in life I justgot more interested in astrology
.
And then I joined variouscommunities in my late 20s and
met some astrologers and Istarted digging more deeply and
learning from them.
(16:59):
And then I took off.
I mean I, when I'm passionateabout a subject, I just I read
everything, I absorb everythingabout it graciously, and so I I
am a quick learner and I learneda lot.
And then, about a year afterthat, I started doing
professional readings and soI've been studying astrology in
a serious way for about a decadenow, just over a decade, um,
(17:23):
and then that led into differenttypes of things like numerology
I bring that in as well, and soI call myself the alchemistic,
but it really it's hard to say.
I'm just an astrologer, I'mjust an intuitive or I'm just a
numerologist, and I've had tomake peace with the fact that
I'm all of these things andthat's okay, and I've stopped
trying to put myself into a boxfor it.
(17:44):
I'm also an oracle, I do, or doOracle readings as well, and
generally just tap into what'sgoing on with an energy field
and all of that.
So it's just, it's a combo ofthings and I'm glad I've
embraced that about myself.
And, yes, my mission here is tobring peace into people's lives,
to make things a little biteasier for them.
(18:04):
But not only that, but toinspire.
I've had people come to me thatthey're just like their energy
feels like almost like a flatline, and I want to breathe life
into them.
I want them to know thatthey're here for a reason in why
they're here and what they'rehere to do.
Having purpose and seeing thatin yourself changes everything.
(18:25):
It changes everything andthat's what I feel I'm here to
do is to help people connectwith who they really are, and
I've seen miraculoustransformations and I'm just so
grateful to do the work that Ido.
I've had people tell me look,I'm in therapy and this is
helping me more than therapy.
(18:46):
I should say do not take herinto your therapist.
I never advise people to dothat.
I believe in this system, butuh, I say, hey, just sprinkle on
a little bit, something extra,a little bit of mysticism and
astrology in order to, um, get amore holistic view of what
you're dealing with and how toovercome it.
(19:08):
You could use both, just likeyou could be a Christian, you
could be an astrologer, youcould experience Western
medicine, but you could alsoexplore something else.
If it's not fully working foryou, there are other options.
Brian Triger (19:23):
Yeah, you can.
you know, thinking of it in moreof just like a structural way,
you can add more elements to afoundation, uh, at least one
with a crawl space and then, uh,you know, or you can, you know,
uh, you can improve thestructure of everything on top
of the foundation or adddecorative elements Like there's
(19:45):
just um, you know, if someone'soutside of the foundation, or
add decorative elements Likethere's just, you know, if
someone's outside of the flatline.
Once they get that kind of jolt, that inspiration, then they
can essentially create whateverlife that they want to.
Marisa Yakutis (19:59):
Yeah, and that's I want to empower people.
And some people think you know.
The naysayers will say, well,astrology takes your power away.
Because you're saying, hey,look, you know, these stars and
these planets dictate everythingI do.
Well, that's not so, that'sjust something.
It's like your blueprint.
Well, a blueprint.
You work with it, but you don'thave to stick to every little
(20:21):
thing.
You just know what you'reworking with and you build,
build on it, you build off ofthat and um, and that's what I
try to inspire people to do hey,take, take this into your own
hands.
And I even say, hey, do yourown research too.
Don't just, don't just takewhat I say as gospel.
I don't want to be treated likea guru, I want to be a guide.
I am a guide walking beside you, not in front of you, um, and
(20:42):
leading you to the waters todrink for yourself as well.
Brian Triger (20:47):
No, that's really cool and for anyone who's
interested and we'll definitelyhave the link tied to the
contributors page.
It's oftheseauchemycom and, ifI'm not mistaken, you can find
all of the information and allof the services on that website.
Is that correct?
Marisa Yakutis (21:05):
Yes, yes, except for at the moment, my business
services are more on a case bycase basis, so they're not
public.
So if anyone has businessinquiries, I could provide my
email address to message medirectly, but that's on my
website as well.
Brian Triger (21:21):
Okay, yeah, do you want to do a quick shout out?
I mean, we can list it in theshow notes as well if you're
comfortable just sharing it onthe air.
Marisa Yakutis (21:31):
It's just Marissa M-A-R-I-S-A at of the
sea alchemycom.
Brian Triger (21:37):
Perfect.
Well, thank you for that.
And and where, uh, where areyou guys out, or?
Uh, uh, I'm just going to leavethat in, that's okay.
So where are you out of?
You're in California, is thatcorrect?
Marisa Yakutis (21:51):
I am in the Central Valley, California.
Brian Triger (21:53):
Okay, really cool.
Yeah, I think we connected whenI lived in I believe I was in
Pleasant.
East Bay I think yeah, pleasantHill.
Marisa Yakutis (22:01):
Pleasant Hill yeah, that's where it was.
Brian Triger (22:04):
I graduated from San Ramon Valley High.
Marisa Yakutis (22:14):
I spent most of my teen years there and that's
when we connected and we'veknown each other.
Ever since We've weaved in andout, I feel that the people who
are meant to be in your life.
Sometimes there's a silence oran absence, but they always
resurface and I love that.
Brian Triger (22:26):
So so tell us a little bit more.
I feel the spirit of of MacPatel, If he's listening, just
to poke him a little bit,nudging me to ask you this
question have you ever beenexposed to rotary before?
Marisa Yakutis (22:42):
I haven't actually.
After we talked a little bitand I found out you know, I
always see what you're doing,I'm always interested in that.
Again, curious Gemini girl, um,and so I'm like you know, I've
heard the term rotary, um, letme look it up, you know, and by
the time I looked it up, I'm Iliterally searched for rotary in
my area.
I said, wow, this is, this isactually on my alley.
(23:05):
I mean, it's I.
I really love the values umpresented from what I I learned
about rotary and I I thought youknow, can I add one more thing,
one more thing to my life?
Let's see, let's see if I canfit this in.
Brian Triger (23:18):
No, that's really cool.
I mean I've uh, you know I'vebeen in for about a year and a
half to two years it's.
It's changed my life.
It's another lens that I lookthrough the world.
I just came back from aleadership seminar tied to
multiple districts and kind ofsqueezed in, you know, just for
a day prior to coming back andjust to kind of see the energy
(23:42):
in the room and the legacy ofsomething that was started, you
know, about 120 years ago.
It's interesting uh, how, uh,how strong an idea can be.
And one of the I forget exactlywhat the, the title of the book
.
Maybe I can throw it in theshow notes or facebook at some
point.
But there were uh, there was anindividual, uh, one of the uh
(24:05):
foundation members tired.
The rotary international readus a children's book about uh
ideas.
Actually, let me pull it upreally quickly child children's
literature idea.
Um, let's see what do you dowith an idea?
(24:33):
And honestly, I wasn't payingattention at all.
I have a tendency to space outand get my dopamine fixed.
I do you know a cellular deviceif I want to close off my
attention because I like to keepmyself authentic.
But I think it's important to.
I think that question itself isvery important.
I'm sure that book is fantasticfor children.
I just wasn't in a space to topay attention, especially when
(24:54):
I'm put into an auditorium Ihave I.
I just kind of resist the whole.
Hey, the nostalgia of beingplaced into a childlike state
tied to elementary school is notsomething that I'm interested
in experimenting with, right nowso and that that's my own
personal limitation.
But anyway, aside from that kindof ramble tied to my internal
(25:14):
thought process, going back towhat I was originally saying,
the fact that you know an ideafrom a few different people,
would that happened about 120years ago, creating more purpose
for this very conversation, andthat this conversation
traveling out to the web andmaybe hitting 50 to 100, several
hundred, maybe even a thousandpeople as time goes on.
(25:38):
I think there's just a lot ofpower behind that.
Marisa Yakutis (25:42):
There's a lot and actually it ties into
something I was thinking about alot yesterday.
It's the quote vision withoutexecution is hallucination.
So that's kind of like whatyou're talking about with having
that.
What do you?
What do you do with an idea?
And I'm, I'm very much of themindset of you.
Know what.
You have these ideas.
You have to get them out thereor else they almost dissipate
(26:04):
you.
You have a responsibility whenyou have these ideas.
You have to get them out thereor else they almost dissipate
you.
You have a responsibility whenyou have this inspiration, this,
you know this eureka moment, todo something with it.
You have it personally for areason, and it's up to you how
you're going to deliver that,and I'm I'm really passionate
about doing things like that andthe the good, the, the, the
(26:25):
deep seated ones.
Brian Triger (26:25):
They really do stick around.
They will, at least for methey'll.
They'll drive you, they'lldrive me nuts Like.
Marisa Yakutis (26:33):
I don't they nag at you until you get them out
there.
Brian Triger (26:35):
Sure, just like the like, the podcast, I felt
like it.
It it wasn't even a choice, itwas light exposure tied to
several other external ideas andthe natural state of you know
where our media was or wasn't atthe time, and it was just a
daily thing.
It was thinking, okay, you know, you know, do I go out and buy
a microphone?
Do I go, and you know, get somespace tied to the library?
(27:00):
Like there were so manydifferent thoughts just kind of
nagging at the excuses and itfelt like these neurons were
just firing off, uh, likeintentionally trying to
eliminate a wall so that theidea would come to be, whether I
wanted it to or not.
Marisa Yakutis (27:15):
Yes, that's how you know, just like I said, with
people coming in and out ofyour life, an idea, if it's
meant for you to execute, it'sgoing to come in and out of your
life until you go okay, fine, Iguess all different and then it
feels really good.
Once you just get those wheelsinto motion, it feels.
It feels actually pretty prettygood and I can say, looking at
(27:36):
knowing your chart, that you arehere to facilitate community,
to create community, to bringthese big ideas to the masses,
but also to rock the boat alittle bit.
So you may be a bit abrasive tosome people, you may question
their, their mindset and belief,but you know, obviously do not
(27:57):
be apologetic about that.
That's, that's what you're borninto and I think that's a
beautiful, beautiful gift to tohave this balance.
Brian Triger (28:04):
I I'm going to go buy all of the uh rock the boat
uh t-shirts later on.
I'm thinking about uh uh onewith Jesus holding a kitten, and
I'm I look forward to thatacquisition, so um.
Marisa Yakutis (28:18):
I mean, yeah, I look forward to seeing you in
that, in that t-shirt.
Brian Triger (28:24):
So for any of our listeners that are just kind of
starting off, whether they'rejoining Rotary for the first
time, or maybe starting abusiness or you know um, maybe
embarking on a new job or career, uh, someone that you know, uh,
maybe is a little bit lost.
Are there any you know, as a,as a business owner, as an
(28:46):
astrologist, as a businessalchemist, as a mother, as a
wife, just as a human being,regardless of how many labels
are or aren't attached to you,any words of wisdom to drop for
that person that's just reallytrying to figure it out?
Marisa Yakutis (29:04):
I would say, due to you know the information age
we're in and, by the way, Ifeel that we are into the age of
Aquarius now and that is theinformation age, as you've all
witnessed, I'm sure, with AI andall of that.
So I would say there's a lot ofinformation.
It's overwhelmed.
We're in information overwhelm.
We don't know who or what tobelieve, who or what to study.
(29:26):
So I would say, if you really,really, really want to get brass
tacks, you can discover yourdominant elements, and that will
open so many doors for you andwhat you could do.
There's different calculatorsonline you could use.
I would say you couldabsolutely start there to just
know what you are and understandwhat that element means for you
(29:47):
.
But I would really truly adviseyou to find someone who could
also decipher that for you alittle bit more.
There are things that you willnot know to look at that.
An expert will know exactly howto advise you into how to use
that element for yourself.
Every chart is, you know, isits own special blueprint and
you need to know how to workwith it yourself.
(30:08):
But a good, good start issaying hey, wow, like Brian, you
know, I'm, I'm so much earth.
Brian Triger (30:14):
What do?
Marisa Yakutis (30:14):
I do with all this earth.
And also how could I balance itout a little bit.
If it feels like too much, ifit feels too rigid or too closed
minded, what can I do tocounterbalance that?
And so that would be my adviceLook at that dominant element
Again.
You could just look up dominantelement calculator.
You put your birth informationin and it spits out what your
(30:37):
you know fire, earth, air orwater, which one you have the
most of and which one you havethe least of.
And what I do is I look at thatfor somebody and I I tell them
how to maybe tone down thedominant a little bit if needed,
and how to embrace the onethey're missing, so that we just
have this beautiful, beautifulbalance, harmony of these
(30:59):
elements.
Brian Triger (31:02):
I love that.
Uh, I think I'm going to gohome and try it for our.
For anyone who's interested inexperimenting a little bit or
looking for another signpost, Ijust encourage you to try it out
, why not?
Marisa Yakutis (31:18):
I mean, you know .
Brian Triger (31:21):
I'm all about trying new things, so thank you.
Thank you for joining us,marisa, I really appreciate you.
Marisa Yakutis (31:28):
This is really great.
Thank you for having me.
Like I told you, I wassurprised because I know your
chart and so I thought wow, he'sasking me more about astrology,
even though he's beenopen-minded in the past.
But to bring this to Rotary, itreally really warms my heart to
Rotary.
It really really warms my heartand it makes me very excited
(31:49):
because I know that part of whyI'm here is to do similar to
what you're doing bring theseideas to the masses in an easily
digestible way, an inspiringway for people to go.
Wow, I'm super curious, I'mhungry for more, and that's I'm
just really grateful for thisopportunity to do that with you,
and that's I'm just reallygrateful for this opportunity to
do that with you.
Brian Triger (32:07):
I I love that, and it just reminds me that just
kind of leaning into more of anabundance mentality is, uh is
just so is so important.
The more I close myself off tothings that I really don't need
to be afraid of, the the moreopen and more inviting my life
is, uh, not only to myself, butjust others around me.
(32:28):
So I really appreciate you.
I want to take this chance, orthis opportunity, to thank the
Almonte library, themetropolitan library system, for
letting us use this space andthis equipment.
I want to thank, uh, everyoneat our district, everyone in our
district.
Uh, whether I've met you or not, or we get along or not, I
(32:49):
think you guys are great.
I don't always show that or saythat, but I think that just
being in this entireorganization, all of just Rotary
International, it's a fantasticopportunity.
So thank you Rot, rotaryinternational and Rotary
district 5750.
And then all also to everyonethat I've encountered, you know,
(33:11):
in life.
Uh, you know I could uh justthink about the future and thank
everyone who I haven't, but Ifeel like, uh, I'm not ready to
do that and I don't think itwould serve me right now, but
anyone that I've interacted withor cross paths with, I just
really appreciate you because,uh, I I'm not ready to do that
and I don't think it would serveme right now, but anyone that
I've interacted with or crosspaths with, I just really
appreciate you because I I'mjust I'm in a really good season
(33:31):
and I appreciate this podcastas well, whatever it's turning
into.
So, again, I'm sure that thereare plenty more, or plenty of
more organizations to thank.
I'm very grateful foreverything tied to this podcast
and have a good night, everyone.
You.
Welcome.
Welcome to the Rotary SparkPodcast.
I'm your host, brian Schreiger,and with me today is my
longtime friend, marisa Yucoudis, from Of the Sea Alchemy.
Let's just dive into aself-introduction.
(00:44):
Tell us about yourselfisa willdo?
Marisa Yakutis (00:49):
that's a loaded question, but I do a lot of
things.
I'm kind of a jane of alltrades in a way.
Um, as you know, I'm anastrologer, I'm a numerologist.
I also help business owners,not only through these methods,
but, um, just streamline theirbusinesses with my tech
knowledge and things like that.
Basically, I'm a mystic, butI'm also a business alchemist.
(01:14):
I refer to myself as a businessalchemist in a variety of ways,
just the way I supportentrepreneurs, but also I bring
in that, you know, splicing themysticism in order to really
up-level the things that they'redoing as well.
Brian Triger (01:30):
Tell us a little bit more about what a business
alchemist does.
Marisa Yakutis (01:35):
So really, you know, I'm not talking about
mixing actual potions, as onewould consider an alchemist.
This is about transformation,really, um, and alchemist gets
thrown around a little bit inspiritual communities.
But the reason I chose to usethat term is because I literally
use well, I would sayfiguratively the elements to
support myself and other peopleon a personal and a business
(02:00):
basis.
So, for instance, uh, you know,we have earth, air, fire and
water.
Let's say, someone has a wholelot of fire.
That can be a pretty spicyperson and they know what they
want and they take action veryquickly.
But if there's too much of thatelement, for instance, they can
just be too impulsive andalmost think of a wildfire out
(02:22):
of control.
They don't really haveboundaries, they don't really
have boundaries, they don'treally have structure.
And so that's when I bring inthose missing elements and to
support in a really holistic way.
Brian Triger (02:34):
That's really cool .
From an outsider's perspectiveand more of a kind of a skeptic
mindset, I just visualizeelements being used in maybe an
abstract way and you having aninherent ability to create more
balance in someone's life bybeing able to objectively
(02:57):
analyze some personality traitsand maybe organization and lack
of organization in differentareas of life.
Uh, that may be entirely basedon internal assumption, but
would some of that be accuratefrom an outsider's understanding
?
Marisa Yakutis (03:18):
That is accurate .
Uh, basically, when I, you know, use these terms, uh, when I
really get into it with people,I do describe traits of each
element and why they need eachother and how they flow together
and what it looks like if oneis dominant, too dominant, and
one is lacking.
I kind of call it yourelemental superpower and I want
(03:39):
people to own it.
I don't want anyone to think,oh no, I'm too to this or to
that, own it.
I don't want anyone to think,oh no, I'm too to this or to
that.
I want to say, look, how can webalance everything out and how
could we add to what you'remissing here?
And what that looks likepractically is?
For some people could be I needstructure, I need a to do list,
I need software to keep me ontrack in my daily life.
For others, it may mean gosh, Ithink I need to be more
(04:02):
open-minded and I think I needto to learn more, um.
And for others it may be gosh,I really need to add more
spirituality into my life, alittle more magic, a little bit
be, a little bit more go withthe flow, and things like that.
Brian Triger (04:18):
That's really fascinating and it really ties
into, you know, one of Rotary'scauses.
You're really assistingbusinesses and individuals with
your understanding, also withyour organization, with
promoting peace, and sometimes Iget somewhat cautious in
talking about anything spiritualbecause of Rotary clearly not
(04:43):
being a political or religiousorganization, but I do see that
there's really nothing againstspirituality.
A lot of our organizations, orat least our clubs, meet in
churches, they pray, and thereare a variety of different
things.
That kind of what I'd like tosee maybe be some gray areas
(05:07):
within an organization thatclaims to not be religious, and
that's not necessarily a badthing, but it does touch into
the fact that we are allspiritual in different ways ways
(05:32):
.
I'd really like to maybe diginto the stigma that comes up
with astrology.
Since you've been doing thisfor a while, do you have some
ideas as to why there's such astrong stigma tied to astrology
specifically?
Marisa Yakutis (05:42):
I do.
I mean, I've kind of heard itall and I'm a very I'm a thinker
, I am a logical person.
I love to hear differentperspectives and provide what my
experiences and the things I'vestudied as well.
And I should start by saying Iwas born Christian.
You know, I was in a Christianfamily, preachers on both sides
from the Bible, belt, all ofthat, and so I come from that
(06:06):
background and I've come backinto the teachings of Jesus.
Actually, I've really resonatedwith that at this point in my
life.
And the two don't have to be,you know, exclusive.
You can be a Christian andfollow astrology.
There are many Christianastrologers.
I know there's conflictinginformation in the Bible about
divination, which astrologyfalls under, but to me, you know
(06:30):
you look at the three wise men.
They followed a star, they wereastrologers in the Bible.
So to me, and also you know,there's been pharaohs that have
been guided by astrology.
There's been kings that havebeen guided by astrology.
They have their personalastrologers, christian people
(06:52):
Henry VIII, princess Diana,these people used astrologers to
guide them, and so to me, youdon't have to pick one or the
other, and so part of it is someof the mentionings in the bible
that, um, that mentioneddivination, but I feel that is
misconstrued a bit, because weknow that that people did
(07:13):
practice astrology then at thosetimes.
Um, and then the other stigmawould be someone reading these
general newspaper horoscopessaying, oh gosh, that's not me
at all.
No, I'm not a Libra, that's,that doesn't fit me whatsoever.
So they throw the baby out withthe bathwater.
What I look at is the entirechart and there's so many things
(07:35):
going on.
You're not just your son's sign.
So, for instance, brian, you'rean Aries son.
You know that.
I think you know that sun, youknow that?
Yeah, I think you know that.
We've.
We've had a couple ofconversations.
Yeah, yes, so, but then I lookat other things.
Then I look at your moon sign,which is actually taurus.
Okay, that's earth.
Aries is fire, so you have anearth moon.
(07:57):
You're also a virgo rising.
That is earth.
And so when I saw your chart, Isaid there it is.
I knew there was other stuffgoing on, because you are such
in my mind, in my eyes, you're avery down-to-earth person,
you're a very practical personand that really shows that earth
(08:17):
that you have going on, earthis your dominant element.
So on paper, someone goes oh,he's an Aries, he's all fire.
No, not necessarily.
You're actually dominantlyearth.
That is your superpower.
You create structure and, as aVirgo rising, you communicate,
you bring community together,you serve.
You know all of that.
And so then people start to gooh, wait a minute.
(08:40):
That does kind of feel like me.
So that's the stigma there is.
You know these people that aretoo eager to say my horoscope or
whatever I read online wasinaccurate, because they're only
looking at one small piece ofthe pie and so what I show
people is the entire piece andit literally looks the chart
looks like a pie.
(09:00):
I look at the entire thing andI say, well, this is how you
communicate in life, or this iswhere you thing and I say, well,
this is how you communicate inlife, or this is where you have
structure in your life, or thisis where you need structure in
your life, this is how you arein a relationship.
I look at the whole thing andonce people leave even the most
skeptical skeptics, once theyleave a reading they just kind
(09:21):
of go Okay, I bite, like I getit, I get it.
There are changed peoplebecause, because they understand
now and they see the biggerpicture the time with
(09:48):
perspectives that are outside ofmy own.
Brian Triger (09:49):
But if I latch onto the stigma, I'm literally
judging your metaphoricalglasses, the lens, one of, if
not one of the primary lensesthat you see people and that you
see the world through.
How am I supposed to connectwith you If I don't acknowledge
the fact that everyone has adifferent perspective?
(10:09):
Like my lens may be more techbased, because that's the space
that I live in, it doesn'tprovide the entire picture, but
it's a unique perspective with acertain lens.
And then you know I have aweakness tied to maybe more
traditional spirituality.
And you know I have a weaknesstied to maybe more traditional
(10:29):
spirituality.
Sometimes I give people inreligious communities a little
bit more of a hard time and Ikind of go the scientific route.
But again, I'm kind of beingcritical of the lens when what I
really need to do is, you know,maybe taking a skewed variation
of what's said in the Bible,but maybe I just need to kind of
wipe away some of the dirt frommy own glasses, essentially,
(10:53):
and just appreciate the factthat there's a lens on the other
side that is looking into me orat least actively deciding hey,
I'm going to spend this timeand I'm going to use my
perspective to communicate withyou which is is is so precious.
(11:13):
I don't always remember that,like you know, whether it's
through objectification orthrough, uh, so many different
things, maybe unmanaged stress,like I could probably list a
hundred different things thatwould basically maybe create a
little bit of fear and give mean excuse to latch onto that
stigma.
But but yeah, no, thank you forkind of opening up my eyes a
(11:37):
little bit.
What about you Tell us a littlebit, if you're willing to tell
us a little bit about your ownchart is and also maybe the
challenges of of viewing oneselfLike did did that take?
Did that take a little bit moretime to have that type of like
introspection?
Marisa Yakutis (11:55):
Well, really, I started out learning my own
chart, and that's what I advisepeople to do who are new to it,
because we're well let's.
Let's be honest, we're allself-absorbed.
We're built away.
Before we start looking atother people Right, we want to
know what we're built with.
Before we start looking atother people right, we want to
know what we have.
So, I started studying my chart.
But then from there I startedstudying, you know, historical
figures, celebrities, and it'sreally fun when you approach it
(12:18):
that way.
At least for me it was reallyfun to do that.
But it's kind of a know thyself, you know.
So I studied my chart and Istudied and I verified and it
really resonated with me, somuch so that then you kind of
branch out to family and youlook at their situation and go,
wow, this is, this is veryaccurate and it helps me give
myself and others grace.
(12:40):
I don't say, you know, it's anexcuse, like, oh, that person
has this planet in this area,you know I'll give them a pass.
No, it just helps me understandmore so that I don't get so
triggered or angered whensomebody approaches me in a
certain way or when I myselfhave a certain behavior.
I kind of go, look, I was bornwith this blueprint.
Yes, we all have free will.
But wow, let me just givemyself a moment of compassion
(13:03):
here, because I'm working withwhat I have, and awareness is
key.
Just to be aware, so that youcould work with what you have.
It's, it's.
There are no curses here,that's nothing like that, um,
but just working with what youhave really helps.
You just give yourself afreaking break, and others too,
um.
(13:23):
So that's where I come from.
It's I'm a compassionate personand I really, really try to put
myself in other people's shoesand see their perspectives, and
astrology has greatly helped medo that and that's part of how I
bring it um into business andinto partnerships and things
like that, because I say, oh,okay, this is what your
co-worker is born with and thisis how maybe you could talk to
(13:45):
them about this specific subject.
You know, this is, this ismaybe you know a better way to
communicate with that person.
Um, and that's just an exampleof practical, practical uses in
both business and in yourpersonal life, where you could
kind of go oh all right, thisperson has mercury here or
wherever it is, and maybe thisis how I could broach this
(14:05):
difficult subject with them in away that maybe will not trigger
them.
Brian Triger (14:10):
Interesting.
It's, uh, it's such a different, it's it's such a different
world, but it it, you know, as Iopened myself up to it, it's,
uh, it's kind of nice to to findsome of the similarities.
It gives me a little bit morepush to maybe go past the
(14:32):
resistance, not only inastrology but kind of other
areas of life right, like itreally is okay to, you know,
open myself up to alternativeideas and it's just refreshing.
I think you know we werespeaking about this earlier One
of the things that you know.
We've known each other for atleast 20, 21 years back in, you
(14:57):
know, from the.
MySpace era, and one thing thatI appreciate about you is that
you know I'm sure, just likeanyone else, you have your own
stuff.
Everyone has issues that theyneed to deal with.
It's part of life.
But you've always brought agreat deal of peace and I just
feel you know in my bones thatnot only is there a good part of
(15:20):
you that wants to bring outpeace, but also connection, or
at least the awareness ofconnection, throughout our
species, and you know you'vejust opened up about so many
different things and I trust you, so there aren't a lot of
people out there that I'd wantto, and it's because I'm
skeptical.
Right when I look at astrology,I think about those horoscopes
(15:43):
and I think about you know, Ithink about those horoscopes and
I think about you.
Know, I had a medium clientonce, you know, doing some tech
work and that was a very bizarreexperience.
But and I won't go into thatstory, but that doesn't
necessarily represent the entirelens or the entire trade, so to
speak.
Like spirituality is vast.
There are so many differentcomponents and a spectrum.
Marisa Yakutis (16:08):
Yeah, it's definitely a spectrum as well.
Brian Triger (16:09):
Sure.
So how did you?
How did you?
Has it always been part of yourlife?
How did you stumble upon it?
Marisa Yakutis (16:16):
Well, I was one of those kids who was interested
in everything.
I should say I'm a Gemini sonand I'm just a cure.
I've always been curious, Ilove to read, I love to study,
and so I was always open tomysticism.
And it really started withbeing in the church.
That's spiritual, it ismysticism in a way, and so I
think that helped me have thatfoundation.
I don't look back, you know myparents did leave the church,
(16:38):
but I don't look back in, youknow, in regret.
I'm glad I have a spiritualfoundation.
That does help.
And so later on in life I justgot more interested in astrology
.
And then I joined variouscommunities in my late 20s and
met some astrologers and Istarted digging more deeply and
learning from them.
(16:59):
And then I took off.
I mean I, when I'm passionateabout a subject, I just I read
everything, I absorb everythingabout it graciously, and so I I
am a quick learner and I learneda lot.
And then, about a year afterthat, I started doing
professional readings and soI've been studying astrology in
a serious way for about a decadenow, just over a decade, um,
(17:23):
and then that led into differenttypes of things like numerology
I bring that in as well, and soI call myself the alchemistic,
but it really it's hard to say.
I'm just an astrologer, I'mjust an intuitive or I'm just a
numerologist, and I've had tomake peace with the fact that
I'm all of these things andthat's okay, and I've stopped
trying to put myself into a boxfor it.
(17:44):
I'm also an oracle, I do, or doOracle readings as well, and
generally just tap into what'sgoing on with an energy field
and all of that.
So it's just, it's a combo ofthings and I'm glad I've
embraced that about myself.
And, yes, my mission here is tobring peace into people's lives,
to make things a little biteasier for them.
(18:04):
But not only that, but toinspire.
I've had people come to me thatthey're just like their energy
feels like almost like a flatline, and I want to breathe life
into them.
I want them to know thatthey're here for a reason in why
they're here and what they'rehere to do.
Having purpose and seeing thatin yourself changes everything.
(18:25):
It changes everything andthat's what I feel I'm here to
do is to help people connectwith who they really are, and
I've seen miraculoustransformations and I'm just so
grateful to do the work that Ido.
I've had people tell me look,I'm in therapy and this is
helping me more than therapy.
(18:46):
I should say do not take herinto your therapist.
I never advise people to dothat.
I believe in this system, butuh, I say, hey, just sprinkle on
a little bit, something extra,a little bit of mysticism and
astrology in order to, um, get amore holistic view of what
you're dealing with and how toovercome it.
(19:08):
You could use both, just likeyou could be a Christian, you
could be an astrologer, youcould experience Western
medicine, but you could alsoexplore something else.
If it's not fully working foryou, there are other options.
Brian Triger (19:23):
Yeah, you can.
you know, thinking of it in moreof just like a structural way,
you can add more elements to afoundation, uh, at least one
with a crawl space and then, uh,you know, or you can, you know,
uh, you can improve thestructure of everything on top
of the foundation or adddecorative elements Like there's
(19:45):
just um, you know, if someone'soutside of the foundation, or
add decorative elements Likethere's just, you know, if
someone's outside of the flatline.
Once they get that kind of jolt, that inspiration, then they
can essentially create whateverlife that they want to.
Marisa Yakutis (19:59):
Yeah, and that's I want to empower people.
And some people think you know.
The naysayers will say, well,astrology takes your power away.
Because you're saying, hey,look, you know, these stars and
these planets dictate everythingI do.
Well, that's not so, that'sjust something.
It's like your blueprint.
Well, a blueprint.
You work with it, but you don'thave to stick to every little
(20:21):
thing.
You just know what you'reworking with and you build,
build on it, you build off ofthat and um, and that's what I
try to inspire people to do hey,take, take this into your own
hands.
And I even say, hey, do yourown research too.
Don't just, don't just takewhat I say as gospel.
I don't want to be treated likea guru, I want to be a guide.
I am a guide walking beside you, not in front of you, um, and
(20:42):
leading you to the waters todrink for yourself as well.
Brian Triger (20:47):
No, that's really cool and for anyone who's
interested and we'll definitelyhave the link tied to the
contributors page.
It's oftheseauchemycom and, ifI'm not mistaken, you can find
all of the information and allof the services on that website.
Is that correct?
Marisa Yakutis (21:05):
Yes, yes, except for at the moment, my business
services are more on a case bycase basis, so they're not
public.
So if anyone has businessinquiries, I could provide my
email address to message medirectly, but that's on my
website as well.
Brian Triger (21:21):
Okay, yeah, do you want to do a quick shout out?
I mean, we can list it in theshow notes as well if you're
comfortable just sharing it onthe air.
Marisa Yakutis (21:31):
It's just Marissa M-A-R-I-S-A at of the
sea alchemycom.
Brian Triger (21:37):
Perfect.
Well, thank you for that.
And and where, uh, where areyou guys out, or?
Uh, uh, I'm just going to leavethat in, that's okay.
So where are you out of?
You're in California, is thatcorrect?
Marisa Yakutis (21:51):
I am in the Central Valley, California.
Brian Triger (21:53):
Okay, really cool.
Yeah, I think we connected whenI lived in I believe I was in
Pleasant.
East Bay I think yeah, pleasantHill.
Marisa Yakutis (22:01):
Pleasant Hill yeah, that's where it was.
Brian Triger (22:04):
I graduated from San Ramon Valley High.
Marisa Yakutis (22:14):
I spent most of my teen years there and that's
when we connected and we'veknown each other.
Ever since We've weaved in andout, I feel that the people who
are meant to be in your life.
Sometimes there's a silence oran absence, but they always
resurface and I love that.
Brian Triger (22:26):
So so tell us a little bit more.
I feel the spirit of of MacPatel, If he's listening, just
to poke him a little bit,nudging me to ask you this
question have you ever beenexposed to rotary before?
Marisa Yakutis (22:42):
I haven't actually.
After we talked a little bitand I found out you know, I
always see what you're doing,I'm always interested in that.
Again, curious Gemini girl, um,and so I'm like you know, I've
heard the term rotary, um, letme look it up, you know, and by
the time I looked it up, I'm Iliterally searched for rotary in
my area.
I said, wow, this is, this isactually on my alley.
(23:05):
I mean, it's I.
I really love the values umpresented from what I I learned
about rotary and I I thought youknow, can I add one more thing,
one more thing to my life?
Let's see, let's see if I canfit this in.
Brian Triger (23:18):
No, that's really cool.
I mean I've uh, you know I'vebeen in for about a year and a
half to two years it's.
It's changed my life.
It's another lens that I lookthrough the world.
I just came back from aleadership seminar tied to
multiple districts and kind ofsqueezed in, you know, just for
a day prior to coming back andjust to kind of see the energy
(23:42):
in the room and the legacy ofsomething that was started, you
know, about 120 years ago.
It's interesting uh, how, uh,how strong an idea can be.
And one of the I forget exactlywhat the, the title of the book
.
Maybe I can throw it in theshow notes or facebook at some
point.
But there were uh, there was anindividual, uh, one of the uh
(24:05):
foundation members tired.
The rotary international readus a children's book about uh
ideas.
Actually, let me pull it upreally quickly child children's
literature idea.
Um, let's see what do you dowith an idea?
(24:33):
And honestly, I wasn't payingattention at all.
I have a tendency to space outand get my dopamine fixed.
I do you know a cellular deviceif I want to close off my
attention because I like to keepmyself authentic.
But I think it's important to.
I think that question itself isvery important.
I'm sure that book is fantasticfor children.
I just wasn't in a space to topay attention, especially when
(24:54):
I'm put into an auditorium Ihave I.
I just kind of resist the whole.
Hey, the nostalgia of beingplaced into a childlike state
tied to elementary school is notsomething that I'm interested
in experimenting with, right nowso and that that's my own
personal limitation.
But anyway, aside from that kindof ramble tied to my internal
(25:14):
thought process, going back towhat I was originally saying,
the fact that you know an ideafrom a few different people,
would that happened about 120years ago, creating more purpose
for this very conversation, andthat this conversation
traveling out to the web andmaybe hitting 50 to 100, several
hundred, maybe even a thousandpeople as time goes on.
(25:38):
I think there's just a lot ofpower behind that.
Marisa Yakutis (25:42):
There's a lot and actually it ties into
something I was thinking about alot yesterday.
It's the quote vision withoutexecution is hallucination.
So that's kind of like whatyou're talking about with having
that.
What do you?
What do you do with an idea?
And I'm, I'm very much of themindset of you.
Know what.
You have these ideas.
You have to get them out thereor else they almost dissipate
(26:04):
you.
You have a responsibility whenyou have these ideas.
You have to get them out thereor else they almost dissipate
you.
You have a responsibility whenyou have this inspiration, this,
you know this eureka moment, todo something with it.
You have it personally for areason, and it's up to you how
you're going to deliver that,and I'm I'm really passionate
about doing things like that andthe the good, the, the, the
(26:25):
deep seated ones.
Brian Triger (26:25):
They really do stick around.
They will, at least for methey'll.
They'll drive you, they'lldrive me nuts Like.
Marisa Yakutis (26:33):
I don't they nag at you until you get them out
there.
Brian Triger (26:35):
Sure, just like the like, the podcast, I felt
like it.
It it wasn't even a choice, itwas light exposure tied to
several other external ideas andthe natural state of you know
where our media was or wasn't atthe time, and it was just a
daily thing.
It was thinking, okay, you know, you know, do I go out and buy
a microphone?
Do I go, and you know, get somespace tied to the library?
(27:00):
Like there were so manydifferent thoughts just kind of
nagging at the excuses and itfelt like these neurons were
just firing off, uh, likeintentionally trying to
eliminate a wall so that theidea would come to be, whether I
wanted it to or not.
Marisa Yakutis (27:15):
Yes, that's how you know, just like I said, with
people coming in and out ofyour life, an idea, if it's
meant for you to execute, it'sgoing to come in and out of your
life until you go okay, fine, Iguess all different and then it
feels really good.
Once you just get those wheelsinto motion, it feels.
It feels actually pretty prettygood and I can say, looking at
(27:36):
knowing your chart, that you arehere to facilitate community,
to create community, to bringthese big ideas to the masses,
but also to rock the boat alittle bit.
So you may be a bit abrasive tosome people, you may question
their, their mindset and belief,but you know, obviously do not
(27:57):
be apologetic about that.
That's, that's what you're borninto and I think that's a
beautiful, beautiful gift to tohave this balance.
Brian Triger (28:04):
I I'm going to go buy all of the uh rock the boat
uh t-shirts later on.
I'm thinking about uh uh onewith Jesus holding a kitten, and
I'm I look forward to thatacquisition, so um.
Marisa Yakutis (28:18):
I mean, yeah, I look forward to seeing you in
that, in that t-shirt.
Brian Triger (28:24):
So for any of our listeners that are just kind of
starting off, whether they'rejoining Rotary for the first
time, or maybe starting abusiness or you know um, maybe
embarking on a new job or career, uh, someone that you know, uh,
maybe is a little bit lost.
Are there any you know, as a,as a business owner, as an
(28:46):
astrologist, as a businessalchemist, as a mother, as a
wife, just as a human being,regardless of how many labels
are or aren't attached to you,any words of wisdom to drop for
that person that's just reallytrying to figure it out?
Marisa Yakutis (29:04):
I would say, due to you know the information age
we're in and, by the way, Ifeel that we are into the age of
Aquarius now and that is theinformation age, as you've all
witnessed, I'm sure, with AI andall of that.
So I would say there's a lot ofinformation.
It's overwhelmed.
We're in information overwhelm.
We don't know who or what tobelieve, who or what to study.
(29:26):
So I would say, if you really,really, really want to get brass
tacks, you can discover yourdominant elements, and that will
open so many doors for you andwhat you could do.
There's different calculatorsonline you could use.
I would say you couldabsolutely start there to just
know what you are and understandwhat that element means for you
(29:47):
.
But I would really truly adviseyou to find someone who could
also decipher that for you alittle bit more.
There are things that you willnot know to look at that.
An expert will know exactly howto advise you into how to use
that element for yourself.
Every chart is, you know, isits own special blueprint and
you need to know how to workwith it yourself.
(30:08):
But a good, good start issaying hey, wow, like Brian, you
know, I'm, I'm so much earth.
Brian Triger (30:14):
What do?
Marisa Yakutis (30:14):
I do with all this earth.
And also how could I balance itout a little bit.
If it feels like too much, ifit feels too rigid or too closed
minded, what can I do tocounterbalance that?
And so that would be my adviceLook at that dominant element
Again.
You could just look up dominantelement calculator.
You put your birth informationin and it spits out what your
(30:37):
you know fire, earth, air orwater, which one you have the
most of and which one you havethe least of.
And what I do is I look at thatfor somebody and I I tell them
how to maybe tone down thedominant a little bit if needed,
and how to embrace the onethey're missing, so that we just
have this beautiful, beautifulbalance, harmony of these
(30:59):
elements.
Brian Triger (31:02):
I love that.
Uh, I think I'm going to gohome and try it for our.
For anyone who's interested inexperimenting a little bit or
looking for another signpost, Ijust encourage you to try it out
, why not?
Marisa Yakutis (31:18):
I mean, you know .
Brian Triger (31:21):
I'm all about trying new things, so thank you.
Thank you for joining us,marisa, I really appreciate you.
Marisa Yakutis (31:28):
This is really great.
Thank you for having me.
Like I told you, I wassurprised because I know your
chart and so I thought wow, he'sasking me more about astrology,
even though he's beenopen-minded in the past.
But to bring this to Rotary, itreally really warms my heart to
Rotary.
It really really warms my heartand it makes me very excited
(31:49):
because I know that part of whyI'm here is to do similar to
what you're doing bring theseideas to the masses in an easily
digestible way, an inspiringway for people to go.
Wow, I'm super curious, I'mhungry for more, and that's I'm
just really grateful for thisopportunity to do that with you,
and that's I'm just reallygrateful for this opportunity to
do that with you.
Brian Triger (32:07):
I I love that, and it just reminds me that just
kind of leaning into more of anabundance mentality is, uh is
just so is so important.
The more I close myself off tothings that I really don't need
to be afraid of, the the moreopen and more inviting my life
is, uh, not only to myself, butjust others around me.
(32:28):
So I really appreciate you.
I want to take this chance, orthis opportunity, to thank the
Almonte library, themetropolitan library system, for
letting us use this space andthis equipment.
I want to thank, uh, everyoneat our district, everyone in our
district.
Uh, whether I've met you or not, or we get along or not, I
(32:49):
think you guys are great.
I don't always show that or saythat, but I think that just
being in this entireorganization, all of just Rotary
International, it's a fantasticopportunity.
So thank you Rot, rotaryinternational and Rotary
district 5750.
And then all also to everyonethat I've encountered, you know,
(33:11):
in life.
Uh, you know I could uh justthink about the future and thank
everyone who I haven't, but Ifeel like, uh, I'm not ready to
do that and I don't think itwould serve me right now, but
anyone that I've interacted withor cross paths with, I just
really appreciate you because,uh, I I'm not ready to do that
and I don't think it would serveme right now, but anyone that
I've interacted with or crosspaths with, I just really
appreciate you because I I'mjust I'm in a really good season
(33:31):
and I appreciate this podcastas well, whatever it's turning
into.
So, again, I'm sure that thereare plenty more, or plenty of
more organizations to thank.
I'm very grateful foreverything tied to this podcast
and have a good night, everyone.
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