June 22, 2023 • 32 mins
Ever wondered how much work goes into setting up a podcast studio, or the pressure of creating new content for an audience? Join us as we share our very different experiences with perfectionism. Andrew takes you through his "YouTuber studio" vibe, while Leah discusses her writing process.
Navigating the comedy industry can be a challenge, and in this episode we dive into the difficulties of getting bookings in a saturated market, the importance of building relationships with bookers, and how being funny isn't always the deciding factor. We also explore the differences between how men and women handle hecklers, and Leah shares her personal experiences with the challenges that come with being a woman on the road.
We wrap up the episode by touching on the cultural elements ingrained in entitlement and how it affects us. Additionally, we delve into family dynamics and success, as we discuss the relentless ribbing from our mom and brother. Don't miss out on this insightful and entertaining conversation – it's sure to leave you wanting more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yours looks more professional than mine.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Great, i love that.
The whole studio or Themicrophone.
Ok, so there you go, there'sthere's a little compliment for
you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Who do you think that is Sissy?
I don't know, brother, Maybeit's mommy and daddy.
Should we answer it Maybe?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
it's Pete's way to flip sis.
It could be a listener or itcould be stranger danger.
Lose a hug.
Lose a hug.
Love is all you, And we'regrown ups now.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Three, two, one One one.
What the hell You didn't clap.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I think there's a delight.
Let's try it again.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
OK, you count off.
Three, two, one.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We hope.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's a crazy delay.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Did you do that in sync?
I'll be able to sync it up, ok,yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Great, i think, even if we were in the same room.
we're really furthering thestereotype that white people
don't have rhythm.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, that is true, i have rhythm.
Yeah, you, on the other hand,you couldn't do them.
You can't even do the Macarena.
I played the drums.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I played the drums in high school.
I had a drum set.
You did Yeah, and if we knowanything from the Mega Man, my
old band.
We slapped.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And you got piped too .
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I thought you were going to say and you got piped
too in high school.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
OK, here we go.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's when a man has sex with you, so welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hi, we're back with a fresh, hot episode of the
Roudix Our Home.
We're talking about all kindsof fun stuff today.
How you doing, andrew.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
This is my favorite intro so far.
I was doing great in that Ispent the last 48 hours on
YouTube research and lightingsetups, podcast studio setups,
and I actually spent hours notjust online but getting this
stuff together And I was soconfident I was like finally I
(02:39):
got something that looksprofessional and cool.
It looks like a YouTuber studio.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And I was like, oh Leah, you know, it's so hard to
impress you in terms of like,you're kind of a perfectionist
when it comes to art, whichmakes sense.
That's why you're successful,Sure, sure.
But I thought, surely, surely,this is it, this is the one, and
I escaped in with you And thefirst thing you said is wow,
(03:06):
your studio is definitely achoice.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh wow, i am such a monster.
Listen, i apologize.
It is, it's, it's.
It looks good.
It looks good.
It's purple, it's fun, it'spurple, we love purple, it's
purple.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You're actually, i think I do you a disservice.
I do convey a lot of thenegativity of our relationship,
sure.
A lot And there's so much goodthat I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, so you've got a lot of.
I actually do feel.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I do.
And I feel, but not towards,not towards you necessarily,
just rage.
That hasn't been worked out.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That comes out to you .
I think that it's just.
It's a taste thing, Like youknow.
If, like I have a specific likelook that I like and you have a
specific look that you like,There's not one that's wrong or
right, I mean let me ask youthis Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Let me ask you this the first setup, that that I
made, that I built, which andadmittedly, i At the time I was
like, oh, this is fucking great.
And now I'm like I totally seeall those things that you were
saying of like, yeah, fuckingstupid, it looked ridiculous.
This compared to that.
It's same, it's different.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's No, it's better because you have light, you have
like like I can see that youhave like the three-point light
set up Like you are very welllit.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I have that I didn't have before.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You have depth of field depth of field exactly The
field I see that you've donethe research and I'm impressed,
and I think everyone else willbe impressed if you, if you join
our patreon and jump on thereAnd then you'll be able to see
the, the beautiful setup thatAndrew has spent hours Working
on.
look at this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You see this lamp There's no light bulb in this
lamp.
That's this.
That's the power of fucking.
Yeah these are childhoodknickknacks.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, I love that.
I love that you know It'slisten, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Today we're gonna talk about a little bit Yeah
let's, let's move it along,let's let's move it along.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Let's move this audio medium along where the majority
people are listening, so theyneed to know what what we're
talking about.
Yeah, we're gonna talk aboutthe writing process.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And with that in mind , you know I feel like I came
out with a little bit ofnegativity.
To counterbalance this, I wouldlike to say that your writing
process is is very, it'sinspiring.
I watched the way that you workand you.
Your process is so interestingto me.
It's, it's very.
I don't think I ever reallythought about process until I
witnessed the way that you gothrough Not only your Stand-up
(06:02):
comedy writing but also yoursketch writing, which is a
completely different Beasts.
You want to, you want to speakto that a little bit.
What, what do you mean?
You?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
never thought about process before.
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Not that I didn't think about it, but I guess I
didn't think about it so much asit applies to sketch, because
I've never really done sketchand People come up to you a lot
at our shows, at the meet andgreets, and they oftentimes want
it.
They're like will you do thecharacter?
will you you know You shouldimprovise the character in the
Q&A's will you do this littlevideo in the character for my
friend?
Yeah, and what most peopledon't understand Yeah is that,
(06:41):
like, these are very deliberate,thought-out choices that are
also rehearsed.
It's not you going up thereriffing or reading a
teleprompter.
It's you memorizing this verylong script that you've written.
Yeah, i don't know how you doit, it's because you do it in
one take you don't like cut themup.
Well, here's the, and it's a lotof work.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Play and like yeah, yeah here's the here's the
secret I actually do use ateleprompter.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, the fail has been lifted.
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I wasn't for the like for the wealthy women character
.
for the wealthy woman character, i for a long time I wasn't and
It was.
it was just like taking so long, i would because it would, you
know, i would.
just it's like it has to be soword-perfect for me for me to
feel good about it and It's likefast and you know it's it,
they're a minute long, so likeit's not you know, yeah, it's
(07:30):
not crazy, but like how you havemisisms in word play.
Yeah, I was having to do so manytakes and then I would like, i
would.
Mess-up, one word at the veryend and I would just be like, oh
fuck, i'm gonna start overagain.
And then I found this like coolteleprompter app That is just
made it like so that I can And Ijust went and I got this And I
(07:55):
do, i do do.
So many takes that like by theend.
I basically do know it.
So it doesn't look like I'mYeah from a teleprompter, but it
just is like a nice sort oflike tool to have You know to
get through it.
Yeah but yeah, you're not justlike that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's such a process.
People think you're just goingin there with this idea and it's
like I've watched you getsthrough the course of an hour.
You know write the Thing or yourecording it and you're you're
getting so mad by the end Cuzyou're getting frustrated and I
understand that.
Like doing a few self tapes foracting gigs.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's like you get to that last line, it's like fuck
the one word Yeah, you have tostart.
yeah, yeah, yeah, you get so inyour head so much different?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Do you find that that process is different than your
stand-up process?
because You're ready for sketch, you're immediately executing
it, right For stand-up.
You're writing these ideas,you're letting them percolate.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's very different And I think that it's been.
I think that, like so I'm in aposition now where I've just
like recorded an hour and so I'mhaving to like write a new hour
, which is, like you know, thefirst hour I have is like seven
(09:16):
years of material.
And now the expectation is like, okay, that's normal, right for
comics.
And now the expectation is that, like, i write another hour in
a year or you know however longit takes, but I'm having a hard
time I'm having it's like it'sgoing a lot slower than I
(09:41):
thought it would, and I feellike I'm feeling a lot of
resistance to sitting down andwriting where, because stand-up
is like a slower.
It's a process of like you writean idea, you don't know if it's
gonna work.
You try it once, it maybe goes.
Okay, you try it three times,you still don't know.
Like it's constantly likerevising and getting it up.
(10:02):
It's slower than TikTok ormaking an Instagram video where
the validation is instant, right, like you make a video, you put
it out, it gets you know, youcan see instantly.
It really is like it sort offuels you in a way, because it's
just like okay, here's this tothe world.
What do you think of it?
(10:24):
Instantaneously you know, withinan hour you can kind of tell
how it's being responded to.
So there's a little bit of likeAnd it's set in stone.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Where the joke constantly changes, even over
the course of a year.
That joke is gonna change everysingle time you do it, and
subtle ways, totally, time andcadence whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And that's for the better.
You know, there's a lot ofvideos that I've put out that
I'm like, ooh, i would love togo back and like tinker with
this.
But you know, you put it outand it's done.
But, yeah, i mean, it's what'sit like for you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's such an well table that, for a second, it's
such an interesting phenomenonwhat you brought up that so many
comedians they.
it takes seven to 10 to 12years to develop your first hour
of material And a lot of times,exactly like what's happened to
you.
you got that first hour, youpopped and now the expectation
(11:22):
is you've spent seven years,seven years creating this
material and now you have to dowhat you did in seven years in
one year, because the next timeyou go to those clubs the
audience is expecting new jokes.
Yeah, and it's also notsomething where, like you, can't
just you record an album or anhour, a special, and they call
(11:44):
it burning material, getting ridof it to reset the new material
.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But you can't just jump in to another show with
zero jokes.
You need to.
They're like lifelines forcomedians.
You have certain jokes in yourset that you know will always
work.
So like, if the set's going bad, you might bring like your
banger joke up in the middle ofyour set to help.
But if you don't have, likepeople are expecting you to,
like some people try to justerase the material and then it's
(12:10):
, and then start completely fromscratch.
That's psychotic.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's psychotic.
I don't know how you could evendo that.
I mean that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You slowly wean the material out.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You really have to be willing to fail hard if that's
the way and I think that that'slike impressive And that's
something that, like, I reallywant to get better at is like
not like letting go of having tobe perfect, Like being like
(12:39):
okay, having to crush every time.
Having to crush every time.
I think that that is, that's ahard thing.
It's part of like being like aperfectionist and not wanting to
let people down and like youknow.
But there's something soexciting about being like okay,
i have this new stuff.
I don't know if it's gonna work, we're gonna see, and then if
(13:00):
it like, if it does awesome andif it, i don't know, it's yeah,
it's a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Your art is yeah, no, i mean, art is predicated on
authenticity, right?
So when you have the whole ideaof a hack comic, when somebody
becomes a hack, it's becausethey're continually doing jokes
that they know work.
That's the definition.
They can kill because they'redoing easy jokes that they've
been doing for 20 years.
There is no growth in that.
(13:26):
There's no authenticity.
You're absolutely right.
You need to go up there andfail with these new jokes over
and over again until somethingclicks.
And it's hard because, like wedo these shows and they're
awesome, the audiences are sogreat, they're here to see us,
but and it's so easy to just belike, oh, i'm gonna fucking kill
(13:46):
tonight And it's gonna feel sogood, i'll go back to the hotel.
But the reality is it doesn'tfeel good, cause what happens if
you have self-awareness is yougo back and you're like all
right, i had a good set, butfuck, i don't have any jokes.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Like.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I would rather bomb with all new jokes than crush
with old jokes, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You would.
Well, maybe that's not true.
No, that's not true.
It's so hard to bomb.
I mean obvious.
This is so obvious that it's sohard to bomb.
But I think it's, you know,it's especially like I feel.
I think it's also like as awoman, as you know, as a people
pleaser, it's just like like theidea, like the feeling of like
(14:28):
letting people down is so hardfor me to stomach.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah.
But for the most part, youcan't let them down.
They're mostly there becausethey want to take a picture of
you, and then you being a killercomic is just an added bonus,
so like.
But I think the issue comes inwhen those same people come back
the next year.
Right, then I guess you can letthem down.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, like we were talking, we did a show in
Raleigh in January, right, andwe're gonna hopefully be going
back there in the fall.
And um Was talking to it to mymanager, bruce, and he was
saying you know, you and Andrew,you need to have like new sets,
and it was like, okay, that's.
(15:14):
It's also like the deadline ofthat right where it's just like
oh, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You telling me that he said that it's probably the
most helpful Boost to my likeproductivity that I've had.
Yeah, but that's always reallybecause I'm like yeah, i'm like
I'm not gonna fucking let Brucedown.
He's a you know big manager.
Like I don't want to and hewon't even know, like that's the
thing is, he won't even know.
But Like I had, he's rightthough.
(15:42):
Like he's a hundred percentright and yeah, but now it's
like my teacher just assigned mehomework.
I have to, but that's it's.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's always about having a deadline and having
accountability.
That's literally how I was ableto film an out, like when, when
he told me that I was gonna befilming an hour I think it was
in December of this past year inApril, like I had probably 35
to 40 minutes of solid material.
Yeah so I had to write you werewhen he.
(16:09):
I was stressed for months, likeI And I, and I did it.
I wrote like 20 minutes of newday is fucking killer and I like
you forced yourself.
You put I forced myself tobecause, yeah, and that's that's
the way.
That's the way it works, that'sthe way you get stuff done.
Yeah, someone lights a fireunder your ass.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, hemorrhoids and also.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, exactly, you get hemorrhoids.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I've had them Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Pivot.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Now, what you were just talking about along those
same lines is we wanted to talkabout the actual booking process
.
Yeah, that's changed over theyears and how it's.
Well, it's changed dramaticallyfor you and, by extension, me.
But I'm still doing some of myown, a lot of my own bookings
still, but I now have the luxuryof your representation Helping
(17:08):
me, which, holy shit, does thatfeel good?
Well, i'm, booking is so hard,it's so hard.
I feel like and to havesomebody.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, i feel like you sort of like mastered the art
of like.
I feel like you, over the years, have gotten so good at booking
stuff for yourself in a waythat, like a lot of comics,
never figure out.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, thank you.
I you know it's interesting.
I was talking to Amy about this.
I I gotta stop saying you knowwhat's interesting, because
inevitably it will never beinteresting when I follow it.
It's not, but this might, thismight be.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It is we'll see this might be interesting.
Yeah, this could be interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
He told me that Because I was telling her I was
like man before I started, whenI would send out.
I would send out emails.
You send out emails like youare a salesperson, cold-calling
people, that's what comedy islike when you start.
Yeah you send out 20 emails andyou're lucky.
You're lucky if one personresponds to 20.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It's unnatural and it feels bad.
I But you kind of have to justlike numb yourself to it and
just it's good to yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah it's also good, because this industry is just
rejection and it's just likecoming back from rejection.
That's how you succeed.
So like you kind of getconditioned early on that like,
oh shit, this isn't nobody'sgoing to respond to me.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
But now like I would get one response back.
but you got to be realtenacious, you just got to keep
emailing people every month.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You got to email and you got to follow up.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh, follow up Yeah.
I sent out five emails lastmonth.
on a one day I sent out fivefor people responding me back
with bookings.
That is unprecedented.
That's telling you, it went from10%, like 5% response rate to
like 80% And this was anunusually high.
These are all also people thatI've built relationships with
(19:10):
over the years, So it's not thesame as like cold emailing, But
even that.
What's crazy is like you can goto a club and absolutely kill,
have the whole staff like youand the managers like we're
going to bring you back.
They'll never respond to anemail again.
It's the weirdest thing.
It's like it's so hard tobecause bookers it's so over
(19:31):
saturated.
They're getting 100 emails aday.
Yeah it's crazy Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But it's like anything, just keep doing it.
I'm also sort of realizing that, like a lot of it, it doesn't
have to do with with how funnyyou are.
It's just like they're tryingto sell tickets, and so they are
.
they are booking people who cansell tickets and, you know,
fortunately, or unfortunately,like a lot of that has become
like people who have massivesocial media followings And some
(19:59):
of those people are funny andsome of them aren't, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, i mean honestly, i'll take it a step
further.
I think being funny has verylittle to do with booking at all
, because when, exactly like yousaid, when you're at the
headline level, all they careabout is can you draw, can you
sell chicken tenders, and at thelike opening level, it also
doesn't really have anything todo with.
(20:23):
It has to do with the kind ofhang you are offstage.
Are you going to annoy them?
Stop saying yum about the chick, just go get some chicken
tenders.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yum, chicken tenders, that sounds good with a little
honey mustard, yum Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
If you're, if you're.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
if you're a good hang which, yeah, I'm a great hang
You really just not.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah you are.
You're a good hang, you're easyto get along with.
Thanks, don't cause drama.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I do not cause trouble.
I'll tell you that That's onething that you can be sure.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
No, you're the opposite, i will not raise a
stink.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I will let you walk all over me.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, i mean the way that we I was talking to Amy
about this earlier today too,because I was like I'm trying to
think of ideas to talk about,and she was like you should talk
about hecklers.
And I'm like, well, we havetalked quite a bit about
hecklers, however, we haven'treally talked about the
different.
I guess we have the differentway, ways in which we handle or
(21:19):
not even handle the way thathecklers affect us.
Whereas I get very upset, it'svery distracting, it's very
emotional, you doesn't evenphase you.
And I told Amy that she waslike, oh yeah, it's because
she's a woman and women are usedto being cat called and
interrupted and yell that andand scream down the street and
like It's so true And like youjust she's like.
(21:39):
As a woman, you just learn howto just like.
Yeah, I was thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's such a great, that's such a great point.
Well, it's just like a culturalthing, i think, like I was
thinking it about like road,road rage Also, like.
I think it's like a similarthing where, like you know, i
drive and people are cutting meoff and like, and I'm just like,
oh well, this is just like,this is just the world, you know
where, as I feel like the menthat are around me.
(22:06):
Like I see them get so worked upabout like driving and I'm just
like, oh, that's so interestingbecause it doesn't affect me
that way.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Oh, you know just which men specifically that,
which men specifically that havedriven you 20,000 miles in the
last year.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, it just is like , you know, i mean it's just,
it's just like no judgment,because I it's which driver?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
which driver of yours ?
I'm talking about you which oneof your drivers?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, but like I mean, obviously it is something that I
struggle with, though You'realso like, you're also you also
drive all the time, so you're Ifeel like you're on the road
constantly, and I didn't meanthat as like a pointed No, no,
no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
No, no, i know, but I do, it is an issue for me.
It is something that Idefinitely struggle with, but I
think it's the same thing islike as like yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And you know, i don't , i don't, i don't see you as
someone who, like, feels a senseof entitlement.
I don't think you are at allLike.
I don't think that you.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But it's more ingrained culturally.
Like you said, it's not aconscious thing.
It is entitlement but it's notconscious.
It's just like everybody hasinherent racism that they you
know that, whether or not theywant to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Right, it's just the way that, the way that, the way
that society is, it just is Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead feel like youwere.
There was something that I sortof cut you off on earlier about
the booking process, which wasthere more than you're gonna say
about that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, just that.
You got to be real tenacious.
If you're a new comic, you justgot to keep.
You know what helped me so muchwas I.
There was a shift that happenedwhere I used to get so mad that
nobody would respond, and thenI started I tried to sort of
shift my mentality to send thisemail with the, with the feeling
(24:04):
, with no expectation, thatthere's gonna be a response ever
yeah like I'm literally sendingthis to an address that doesn't
exist.
I'm not gonna get a response,and then that just it made it
better because I would forgetabout it, and then it would feel
good, i would just get aresponse, like a week later.
Two weeks later I'm like oh,this is great, i forgot all
about this instead of being mad.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But isn't that a lesson?
for it is, i mean, i think thatthat's the idea of like
releasing all expectations whenit comes to you know, i think
about that with like doing anaudition or like even doing a
show like you, you?
the idea of releasingExpectations is so freeing.
And then when it, when it islike when you do like when you
send out 30 emails and one, youget one response.
(24:46):
It's like what a treat, what atreat.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, yummy, yeah, i don't say yummy in reference to
the booking.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yummy, I got a book.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know what I was gonna say join the patreon so
you can see what Leah's doingwith her mouth, but don't.
Actually, if I was on thepatreon I would unsubscribe.
Okay, well, that was that was.
That was a choice.
You want to talk about mystudio?
that was a choice.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know I'm.
I think that I'm like yourstudio looks good.
Thank you, I'm warm and up tothe depth of field is really
nice.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah thank you.
I got more lights coming too,which is probably gonna ruin it
but It's gonna be a real funhouse.
It's gonna look good.
Now I'm not gonna say listen,but listen.
I Like to end this on on alighter note.
We I think we covered a lot ofreally good technical ground,
(25:54):
but Maybe close to something alittle light.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
So yeah, we got heavy , we got real heavy.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Now the story of flashlight tag last week here we
go.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
It was a hit it was.
People loved it.
They did.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, loved it I.
I will listen back.
Actually it did come off as Icame off as a little mean,
hysterically laughing about it,but it's different when it's
your family.
So I want I want to prefacethat now.
Mom informed me and dad that wemissed The most key part of
(26:35):
that story.
Both of us seemed to haveoverlooked or, in your case,
probably Ripfully forgot,repressed the fact that the next
night They did the same likewent to play flashlight tag
again.
They did the same and they didthe same it just came flooding
(26:57):
back.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I had repressed that memory They left me in the tree
again and I fell for it a secondtime.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Why?
What would have changed?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I know I change overnight.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I'm an.
I'm an optimist.
The best night of his life.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I believe in people, i believe in people's ability to
change.
I am an optimist at heart, andI.
It's a tragic story.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
What you know what and when, mom What?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
there wasn't a third night.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
There wasn't a third night, that's they got, that's
because they got bored with abit for me was too easy for me
twice, and I'm just when myGoing upstairs and I'm in the
tree again.
You're the monkey girl now mom,when she was telling me is,
(27:50):
you're right, it is tragic, it'sa tragic story.
and when mom was relaying thiskey, miss detailed, her face lit
up and she She goes, yeah, shegoes.
Can you imagine how excitedMike must have been when he
found out that she fell for it asecond time?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And I was just like.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Are we just there laughing the whole time?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, like nothing delights this family more than
just relentless trolling of me.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, that explains, it explains a lot, so
that's yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You become very successful, so maybe you should
thank your brother.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Maybe I'll thank, maybe I'll thank the whole
family for just relentlesslymaking fun of me for decades.
That's what?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
whenever, whenever anyone in this family Says
anything that's even remotelygets a little bit sense of my
mom like to being trolled theresponses, call the And now
mom's thrown in now a newaddition.
I don't know if it's just beenlike a hot talking point in the
(29:03):
culture or whatever, but shegoes where.
I'm a victim.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
and I'm a victim, which is so funny, and also I
have a side story to tell youabout that that I can't say on
air.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh, oh boy.
Well, that's that, that'll,that'll that'll tantalize the
listeners.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Listen, this has been great.
Should we wrap it?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
up.
It's been great.
Let's wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
All right, join the patreon.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Leave a five star review, recording a special and
Cincinnati next month.
Come see that.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Go see under July.
What is it July 7th?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
7th July 7.
Thank you 1455 Dalton Street1455.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Dalton we have what we have a lot of fun shows
coming up, so those will be inthe outro.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yes but like July 14th and already put them in
great Love it already put themin there fabulous give it a
listen.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well done, all right, all right.
Oh.
Cool.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yours looks more professional than mine.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Great, i love that.
The whole studio or Themicrophone.
Ok, so there you go, there'sthere's a little compliment for
you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Who do you think that is Sissy?
I don't know, brother, Maybeit's mommy and daddy.
Should we answer it Maybe?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
it's Pete's way to flip sis.
It could be a listener or itcould be stranger danger.
Lose a hug.
Lose a hug.
Love is all you, And we'regrown ups now.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Three, two, one One one.
What the hell You didn't clap.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I think there's a delight.
Let's try it again.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
OK, you count off.
Three, two, one.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We hope.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's a crazy delay.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Did you do that in sync?
I'll be able to sync it up, ok,yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Great, i think, even if we were in the same room.
we're really furthering thestereotype that white people
don't have rhythm.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, that is true, i have rhythm.
Yeah, you, on the other hand,you couldn't do them.
You can't even do the Macarena.
I played the drums.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I played the drums in high school.
I had a drum set.
You did Yeah, and if we knowanything from the Mega Man, my
old band.
We slapped.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And you got piped too .
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I thought you were going to say and you got piped
too in high school.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
OK, here we go.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's when a man has sex with you, so welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hi, we're back with a fresh, hot episode of the
Roudix Our Home.
We're talking about all kindsof fun stuff today.
How you doing, andrew.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
This is my favorite intro so far.
I was doing great in that Ispent the last 48 hours on
YouTube research and lightingsetups, podcast studio setups,
and I actually spent hours notjust online but getting this
stuff together And I was soconfident I was like finally I
(02:39):
got something that looksprofessional and cool.
It looks like a YouTuber studio.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And I was like, oh Leah, you know, it's so hard to
impress you in terms of like,you're kind of a perfectionist
when it comes to art, whichmakes sense.
That's why you're successful,Sure, sure.
But I thought, surely, surely,this is it, this is the one, and
I escaped in with you And thefirst thing you said is wow,
(03:06):
your studio is definitely achoice.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh wow, i am such a monster.
Listen, i apologize.
It is, it's, it's.
It looks good.
It looks good.
It's purple, it's fun, it'spurple, we love purple, it's
purple.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You're actually, i think I do you a disservice.
I do convey a lot of thenegativity of our relationship,
sure.
A lot And there's so much goodthat I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, so you've got a lot of.
I actually do feel.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I do.
And I feel, but not towards,not towards you necessarily,
just rage.
That hasn't been worked out.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That comes out to you .
I think that it's just.
It's a taste thing, Like youknow.
If, like I have a specific likelook that I like and you have a
specific look that you like,There's not one that's wrong or
right, I mean let me ask youthis Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Let me ask you this the first setup, that that I
made, that I built, which andadmittedly, i At the time I was
like, oh, this is fucking great.
And now I'm like I totally seeall those things that you were
saying of like, yeah, fuckingstupid, it looked ridiculous.
This compared to that.
It's same, it's different.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's No, it's better because you have light, you have
like like I can see that youhave like the three-point light
set up Like you are very welllit.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I have that I didn't have before.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You have depth of field depth of field exactly The
field I see that you've donethe research and I'm impressed,
and I think everyone else willbe impressed if you, if you join
our patreon and jump on thereAnd then you'll be able to see
the, the beautiful setup thatAndrew has spent hours Working
on.
look at this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You see this lamp There's no light bulb in this
lamp.
That's this.
That's the power of fucking.
Yeah these are childhoodknickknacks.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, I love that.
I love that you know It'slisten, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Today we're gonna talk about a little bit Yeah
let's, let's move it along,let's let's move it along.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Let's move this audio medium along where the majority
people are listening, so theyneed to know what what we're
talking about.
Yeah, we're gonna talk aboutthe writing process.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And with that in mind , you know I feel like I came
out with a little bit ofnegativity.
To counterbalance this, I wouldlike to say that your writing
process is is very, it'sinspiring.
I watched the way that you workand you.
Your process is so interestingto me.
It's, it's very.
I don't think I ever reallythought about process until I
witnessed the way that you gothrough Not only your Stand-up
(06:02):
comedy writing but also yoursketch writing, which is a
completely different Beasts.
You want to, you want to speakto that a little bit.
What, what do you mean?
You?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
never thought about process before.
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Not that I didn't think about it, but I guess I
didn't think about it so much asit applies to sketch, because
I've never really done sketchand People come up to you a lot
at our shows, at the meet andgreets, and they oftentimes want
it.
They're like will you do thecharacter?
will you you know You shouldimprovise the character in the
Q&A's will you do this littlevideo in the character for my
friend?
Yeah, and what most peopledon't understand Yeah is that,
(06:41):
like, these are very deliberate,thought-out choices that are
also rehearsed.
It's not you going up thereriffing or reading a
teleprompter.
It's you memorizing this verylong script that you've written.
Yeah, i don't know how you doit, it's because you do it in
one take you don't like cut themup.
Well, here's the, and it's a lotof work.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Play and like yeah, yeah here's the here's the
secret I actually do use ateleprompter.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, the fail has been lifted.
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I wasn't for the like for the wealthy women character
.
for the wealthy woman character, i for a long time I wasn't and
It was.
it was just like taking so long, i would because it would, you
know, i would.
just it's like it has to be soword-perfect for me for me to
feel good about it and It's likefast and you know it's it,
they're a minute long, so likeit's not you know, yeah, it's
(07:30):
not crazy, but like how you havemisisms in word play.
Yeah, I was having to do so manytakes and then I would like, i
would.
Mess-up, one word at the veryend and I would just be like, oh
fuck, i'm gonna start overagain.
And then I found this like coolteleprompter app That is just
made it like so that I can And Ijust went and I got this And I
(07:55):
do, i do do.
So many takes that like by theend.
I basically do know it.
So it doesn't look like I'mYeah from a teleprompter, but it
just is like a nice sort oflike tool to have You know to
get through it.
Yeah but yeah, you're not justlike that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's such a process.
People think you're just goingin there with this idea and it's
like I've watched you getsthrough the course of an hour.
You know write the Thing or yourecording it and you're you're
getting so mad by the end Cuzyou're getting frustrated and I
understand that.
Like doing a few self tapes foracting gigs.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's like you get to that last line, it's like fuck
the one word Yeah, you have tostart.
yeah, yeah, yeah, you get so inyour head so much different?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Do you find that that process is different than your
stand-up process?
because You're ready for sketch, you're immediately executing
it, right For stand-up.
You're writing these ideas,you're letting them percolate.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's very different And I think that it's been.
I think that, like so I'm in aposition now where I've just
like recorded an hour and so I'mhaving to like write a new hour
, which is, like you know, thefirst hour I have is like seven
(09:16):
years of material.
And now the expectation is like, okay, that's normal, right for
comics.
And now the expectation is that, like, i write another hour in
a year or you know however longit takes, but I'm having a hard
time I'm having it's like it'sgoing a lot slower than I
(09:41):
thought it would, and I feellike I'm feeling a lot of
resistance to sitting down andwriting where, because stand-up
is like a slower.
It's a process of like you writean idea, you don't know if it's
gonna work.
You try it once, it maybe goes.
Okay, you try it three times,you still don't know.
Like it's constantly likerevising and getting it up.
(10:02):
It's slower than TikTok ormaking an Instagram video where
the validation is instant, right, like you make a video, you put
it out, it gets you know, youcan see instantly.
It really is like it sort offuels you in a way, because it's
just like okay, here's this tothe world.
What do you think of it?
(10:24):
Instantaneously you know, withinan hour you can kind of tell
how it's being responded to.
So there's a little bit of likeAnd it's set in stone.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Where the joke constantly changes, even over
the course of a year.
That joke is gonna change everysingle time you do it, and
subtle ways, totally, time andcadence whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And that's for the better.
You know, there's a lot ofvideos that I've put out that
I'm like, ooh, i would love togo back and like tinker with
this.
But you know, you put it outand it's done.
But, yeah, i mean, it's what'sit like for you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's such an well table that, for a second, it's
such an interesting phenomenonwhat you brought up that so many
comedians they.
it takes seven to 10 to 12years to develop your first hour
of material And a lot of times,exactly like what's happened to
you.
you got that first hour, youpopped and now the expectation
(11:22):
is you've spent seven years,seven years creating this
material and now you have to dowhat you did in seven years in
one year, because the next timeyou go to those clubs the
audience is expecting new jokes.
Yeah, and it's also notsomething where, like you, can't
just you record an album or anhour, a special, and they call
(11:44):
it burning material, getting ridof it to reset the new material
.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But you can't just jump in to another show with
zero jokes.
You need to.
They're like lifelines forcomedians.
You have certain jokes in yourset that you know will always
work.
So like, if the set's going bad, you might bring like your
banger joke up in the middle ofyour set to help.
But if you don't have, likepeople are expecting you to,
like some people try to justerase the material and then it's
(12:10):
, and then start completely fromscratch.
That's psychotic.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's psychotic.
I don't know how you could evendo that.
I mean that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You slowly wean the material out.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You really have to be willing to fail hard if that's
the way and I think that that'slike impressive And that's
something that, like, I reallywant to get better at is like
not like letting go of having tobe perfect, Like being like
(12:39):
okay, having to crush every time.
Having to crush every time.
I think that that is, that's ahard thing.
It's part of like being like aperfectionist and not wanting to
let people down and like youknow.
But there's something soexciting about being like okay,
i have this new stuff.
I don't know if it's gonna work, we're gonna see, and then if
(13:00):
it like, if it does awesome andif it, i don't know, it's yeah,
it's a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Your art is yeah, no, i mean, art is predicated on
authenticity, right?
So when you have the whole ideaof a hack comic, when somebody
becomes a hack, it's becausethey're continually doing jokes
that they know work.
That's the definition.
They can kill because they'redoing easy jokes that they've
been doing for 20 years.
There is no growth in that.
(13:26):
There's no authenticity.
You're absolutely right.
You need to go up there andfail with these new jokes over
and over again until somethingclicks.
And it's hard because, like wedo these shows and they're
awesome, the audiences are sogreat, they're here to see us,
but and it's so easy to just belike, oh, i'm gonna fucking kill
(13:46):
tonight And it's gonna feel sogood, i'll go back to the hotel.
But the reality is it doesn'tfeel good, cause what happens if
you have self-awareness is yougo back and you're like all
right, i had a good set, butfuck, i don't have any jokes.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Like.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I would rather bomb with all new jokes than crush
with old jokes, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You would.
Well, maybe that's not true.
No, that's not true.
It's so hard to bomb.
I mean obvious.
This is so obvious that it's sohard to bomb.
But I think it's, you know,it's especially like I feel.
I think it's also like as awoman, as you know, as a people
pleaser, it's just like like theidea, like the feeling of like
(14:28):
letting people down is so hardfor me to stomach.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah.
But for the most part, youcan't let them down.
They're mostly there becausethey want to take a picture of
you, and then you being a killercomic is just an added bonus,
so like.
But I think the issue comes inwhen those same people come back
the next year.
Right, then I guess you can letthem down.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, like we were talking, we did a show in
Raleigh in January, right, andwe're gonna hopefully be going
back there in the fall.
And um Was talking to it to mymanager, bruce, and he was
saying you know, you and Andrew,you need to have like new sets,
and it was like, okay, that's.
(15:14):
It's also like the deadline ofthat right where it's just like
oh, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You telling me that he said that it's probably the
most helpful Boost to my likeproductivity that I've had.
Yeah, but that's always reallybecause I'm like yeah, i'm like
I'm not gonna fucking let Brucedown.
He's a you know big manager.
Like I don't want to and hewon't even know, like that's the
thing is, he won't even know.
But Like I had, he's rightthough.
(15:42):
Like he's a hundred percentright and yeah, but now it's
like my teacher just assigned mehomework.
I have to, but that's it's.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's always about having a deadline and having
accountability.
That's literally how I was ableto film an out, like when, when
he told me that I was gonna befilming an hour I think it was
in December of this past year inApril, like I had probably 35
to 40 minutes of solid material.
Yeah so I had to write you werewhen he.
(16:09):
I was stressed for months, likeI And I, and I did it.
I wrote like 20 minutes of newday is fucking killer and I like
you forced yourself.
You put I forced myself tobecause, yeah, and that's that's
the way.
That's the way it works, that'sthe way you get stuff done.
Yeah, someone lights a fireunder your ass.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, hemorrhoids and also.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, exactly, you get hemorrhoids.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I've had them Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Pivot.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Now, what you were just talking about along those
same lines is we wanted to talkabout the actual booking process
.
Yeah, that's changed over theyears and how it's.
Well, it's changed dramaticallyfor you and, by extension, me.
But I'm still doing some of myown, a lot of my own bookings
still, but I now have the luxuryof your representation Helping
(17:08):
me, which, holy shit, does thatfeel good?
Well, i'm, booking is so hard,it's so hard.
I feel like and to havesomebody.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, i feel like you sort of like mastered the art
of like.
I feel like you, over the years, have gotten so good at booking
stuff for yourself in a waythat, like a lot of comics,
never figure out.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, thank you.
I you know it's interesting.
I was talking to Amy about this.
I I gotta stop saying you knowwhat's interesting, because
inevitably it will never beinteresting when I follow it.
It's not, but this might, thismight be.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It is we'll see this might be interesting.
Yeah, this could be interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
He told me that Because I was telling her I was
like man before I started, whenI would send out.
I would send out emails.
You send out emails like youare a salesperson, cold-calling
people, that's what comedy islike when you start.
Yeah you send out 20 emails andyou're lucky.
You're lucky if one personresponds to 20.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It's unnatural and it feels bad.
I But you kind of have to justlike numb yourself to it and
just it's good to yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah it's also good, because this industry is just
rejection and it's just likecoming back from rejection.
That's how you succeed.
So like you kind of getconditioned early on that like,
oh shit, this isn't nobody'sgoing to respond to me.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
But now like I would get one response back.
but you got to be realtenacious, you just got to keep
emailing people every month.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You got to email and you got to follow up.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh, follow up Yeah.
I sent out five emails lastmonth.
on a one day I sent out fivefor people responding me back
with bookings.
That is unprecedented.
That's telling you, it went from10%, like 5% response rate to
like 80% And this was anunusually high.
These are all also people thatI've built relationships with
(19:10):
over the years, So it's not thesame as like cold emailing, But
even that.
What's crazy is like you can goto a club and absolutely kill,
have the whole staff like youand the managers like we're
going to bring you back.
They'll never respond to anemail again.
It's the weirdest thing.
It's like it's so hard tobecause bookers it's so over
(19:31):
saturated.
They're getting 100 emails aday.
Yeah it's crazy Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But it's like anything, just keep doing it.
I'm also sort of realizing that, like a lot of it, it doesn't
have to do with with how funnyyou are.
It's just like they're tryingto sell tickets, and so they are
.
they are booking people who cansell tickets and, you know,
fortunately, or unfortunately,like a lot of that has become
like people who have massivesocial media followings And some
(19:59):
of those people are funny andsome of them aren't, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, i mean honestly, i'll take it a step
further.
I think being funny has verylittle to do with booking at all
, because when, exactly like yousaid, when you're at the
headline level, all they careabout is can you draw, can you
sell chicken tenders, and at thelike opening level, it also
doesn't really have anything todo with.
(20:23):
It has to do with the kind ofhang you are offstage.
Are you going to annoy them?
Stop saying yum about the chick, just go get some chicken
tenders.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yum, chicken tenders, that sounds good with a little
honey mustard, yum Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
If you're, if you're.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
if you're a good hang which, yeah, I'm a great hang
You really just not.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah you are.
You're a good hang, you're easyto get along with.
Thanks, don't cause drama.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I do not cause trouble.
I'll tell you that That's onething that you can be sure.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
No, you're the opposite, i will not raise a
stink.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I will let you walk all over me.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, i mean the way that we I was talking to Amy
about this earlier today too,because I was like I'm trying to
think of ideas to talk about,and she was like you should talk
about hecklers.
And I'm like, well, we havetalked quite a bit about
hecklers, however, we haven'treally talked about the
different.
I guess we have the differentway, ways in which we handle or
(21:19):
not even handle the way thathecklers affect us.
Whereas I get very upset, it'svery distracting, it's very
emotional, you doesn't evenphase you.
And I told Amy that she waslike, oh yeah, it's because
she's a woman and women are usedto being cat called and
interrupted and yell that andand scream down the street and
like It's so true And like youjust she's like.
(21:39):
As a woman, you just learn howto just like.
Yeah, I was thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's such a great, that's such a great point.
Well, it's just like a culturalthing, i think, like I was
thinking it about like road,road rage Also, like.
I think it's like a similarthing where, like you know, i
drive and people are cutting meoff and like, and I'm just like,
oh well, this is just like,this is just the world, you know
where, as I feel like the menthat are around me.
(22:06):
Like I see them get so worked upabout like driving and I'm just
like, oh, that's so interestingbecause it doesn't affect me
that way.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Oh, you know just which men specifically that,
which men specifically that havedriven you 20,000 miles in the
last year.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, it just is like , you know, i mean it's just,
it's just like no judgment,because I it's which driver?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
which driver of yours ?
I'm talking about you which oneof your drivers?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, but like I mean, obviously it is something that I
struggle with, though You'realso like, you're also you also
drive all the time, so you're Ifeel like you're on the road
constantly, and I didn't meanthat as like a pointed No, no,
no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
No, no, i know, but I do, it is an issue for me.
It is something that Idefinitely struggle with, but I
think it's the same thing islike as like yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And you know, i don't , i don't, i don't see you as
someone who, like, feels a senseof entitlement.
I don't think you are at allLike.
I don't think that you.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But it's more ingrained culturally.
Like you said, it's not aconscious thing.
It is entitlement but it's notconscious.
It's just like everybody hasinherent racism that they you
know that, whether or not theywant to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Right, it's just the way that, the way that, the way
that society is, it just is Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead feel like youwere.
There was something that I sortof cut you off on earlier about
the booking process, which wasthere more than you're gonna say
about that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, just that.
You got to be real tenacious.
If you're a new comic, you justgot to keep.
You know what helped me so muchwas I.
There was a shift that happenedwhere I used to get so mad that
nobody would respond, and thenI started I tried to sort of
shift my mentality to send thisemail with the, with the feeling
(24:04):
, with no expectation, thatthere's gonna be a response ever
yeah like I'm literally sendingthis to an address that doesn't
exist.
I'm not gonna get a response,and then that just it made it
better because I would forgetabout it, and then it would feel
good, i would just get aresponse, like a week later.
Two weeks later I'm like oh,this is great, i forgot all
about this instead of being mad.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But isn't that a lesson?
for it is, i mean, i think thatthat's the idea of like
releasing all expectations whenit comes to you know, i think
about that with like doing anaudition or like even doing a
show like you, you?
the idea of releasingExpectations is so freeing.
And then when it, when it islike when you do like when you
send out 30 emails and one, youget one response.
(24:46):
It's like what a treat, what atreat.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, yummy, yeah, i don't say yummy in reference to
the booking.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yummy, I got a book.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know what I was gonna say join the patreon so
you can see what Leah's doingwith her mouth, but don't.
Actually, if I was on thepatreon I would unsubscribe.
Okay, well, that was that was.
That was a choice.
You want to talk about mystudio?
that was a choice.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know I'm.
I think that I'm like yourstudio looks good.
Thank you, I'm warm and up tothe depth of field is really
nice.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah thank you.
I got more lights coming too,which is probably gonna ruin it
but It's gonna be a real funhouse.
It's gonna look good.
Now I'm not gonna say listen,but listen.
I Like to end this on on alighter note.
We I think we covered a lot ofreally good technical ground,
(25:54):
but Maybe close to something alittle light.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
So yeah, we got heavy , we got real heavy.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Now the story of flashlight tag last week here we
go.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
It was a hit it was.
People loved it.
They did.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, loved it I.
I will listen back.
Actually it did come off as Icame off as a little mean,
hysterically laughing about it,but it's different when it's
your family.
So I want I want to prefacethat now.
Mom informed me and dad that wemissed The most key part of
(26:35):
that story.
Both of us seemed to haveoverlooked or, in your case,
probably Ripfully forgot,repressed the fact that the next
night They did the same likewent to play flashlight tag
again.
They did the same and they didthe same it just came flooding
(26:57):
back.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I had repressed that memory They left me in the tree
again and I fell for it a secondtime.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Why?
What would have changed?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I know I change overnight.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I'm an.
I'm an optimist.
The best night of his life.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I believe in people, i believe in people's ability to
change.
I am an optimist at heart, andI.
It's a tragic story.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
What you know what and when, mom What?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
there wasn't a third night.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
There wasn't a third night, that's they got, that's
because they got bored with abit for me was too easy for me
twice, and I'm just when myGoing upstairs and I'm in the
tree again.
You're the monkey girl now mom,when she was telling me is,
(27:50):
you're right, it is tragic, it'sa tragic story.
and when mom was relaying thiskey, miss detailed, her face lit
up and she She goes, yeah, shegoes.
Can you imagine how excitedMike must have been when he
found out that she fell for it asecond time?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And I was just like.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Are we just there laughing the whole time?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, like nothing delights this family more than
just relentless trolling of me.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, that explains, it explains a lot, so
that's yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You become very successful, so maybe you should
thank your brother.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Maybe I'll thank, maybe I'll thank the whole
family for just relentlesslymaking fun of me for decades.
That's what?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
whenever, whenever anyone in this family Says
anything that's even remotelygets a little bit sense of my
mom like to being trolled theresponses, call the And now
mom's thrown in now a newaddition.
I don't know if it's just beenlike a hot talking point in the
(29:03):
culture or whatever, but shegoes where.
I'm a victim.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
and I'm a victim, which is so funny, and also I
have a side story to tell youabout that that I can't say on
air.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh, oh boy.
Well, that's that, that'll,that'll that'll tantalize the
listeners.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Listen, this has been great.
Should we wrap it?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
up.
It's been great.
Let's wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
All right, join the patreon.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Leave a five star review, recording a special and
Cincinnati next month.
Come see that.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Go see under July.
What is it July 7th?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
7th July 7.
Thank you 1455 Dalton Street1455.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Dalton we have what we have a lot of fun shows
coming up, so those will be inthe outro.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yes but like July 14th and already put them in
great Love it already put themin there fabulous give it a
listen.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well done, all right, all right.
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