June 30, 2023 • 30 mins
Can you imagine embarking on a 14-hour drive to Florida, stuck in a car with no AC or radio and three squabbling kids in the backseat? We've lived it, and survived to laugh about it! This episode is a hilarious trip down memory lane as we reminisce about our insane childhood vacation. We also offer a window into the entertaining aspects of being an uncle.
Ever struggled with writer’s block or been paralyzed by the fear of starting from scratch? You're not alone. We share our own trials and triumphs in navigating the writing process, from the struggles of getting started and the pitfalls of thinking too big picture, to the thrill and terror of taking risks. We delve into the peculiar conundrum when a joke works but just doesn't feel right, and the daunting fear of blank pages.
Finally, we bare our souls (and our skin), discussing our own experiences with tattoos and our mom's comical horror at them. We also open up about crowd work and how that affects the dynamic of the show!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Who do you think that is Sissy?
I don't know, brother.
Maybe it's Mommy and Daddy.
Should we answer it?
Maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Pete's way to flip sis.
It could be a listener or itcould be Stranger danger.
Lose a hug, lose a hug, live it.
Oh yeah, and we're grown-upsnow.
(00:33):
Welcome to the Rudexer Home.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
A sister brother podcast How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That's not an answer.
How are you?
You're in LA.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Uh-oh, aunt Kathy is coming out clawing, here she
comes.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm having some red wine.
I'm having some cookies andwine.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Kathy lives off of cookies and wine.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
She does.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I am at my lovely girlfriend's house, Amy, who
taught me everything I know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, yes.
And uh, I'm a cat daddy, you'rea cat daddy.
You've been fostering kittens.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yes, yeah, how's that going?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
How many kittens do you have?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
A little butterscotch is over here.
Uh six, and I rename themconstantly.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh, you give them new names every day.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, this little guy doesn't like to be held.
He gets.
He's not very cuddly, but he iscute.
He's got these big eyes.
Oh see, he doesn't want to.
Okay, we're not doing a catpodcast, let's get back.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's sort of Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You were saying before you went on your little
cat loving.
They've changed me.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Tangent They've changed you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, and you've changed them.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Literally, you change their names every day Yes.
Which I think is probably verytraumatic for them.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No, i don't think they care.
They don't seem to mind, do youbutterscotch?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
If I ever have a kid, I'm going to change its name
every day.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't You know what I?
see mom, the way that shedelights in her children, in her
grandchildren, and I've justnever, i don't ever Like, i've
never felt that way.
It's just not for me.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You don't have the.
You don't have the.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Parenting.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You don't have parenting in your blood, you
don't have the old No paternalinstinct.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
No, you don't, they're fun.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah, they're fun, but you know, you're an
uncle Kid, You're an uncle.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Uncle's being an uncle's fun.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You're an uncle at all.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I went to Coney Island with our niece and mom
yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, did you pee pee in the pool?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, i did not, but I got in this like mini water
game with our niece and thispool was disgusting.
It was like one of thoseinflatable ones you would have
had.
It would have been yournightmare.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
At Coney Island.
It was spider central.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it was like a little inflatable one off to the
side.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Why didn't you go in the big, in the huge pool?
We did, oh, okay, we did Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Mom brought dad's SPF 150.
So we all looked like ghosts.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
We looked like ghouls Good In the pool, that's fun
Yeah.
Yeah, great.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, so here's what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Let's get right into it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Like.
so you made a video recently Itwas a meditation detailing our
childhood vacation that we tookto Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, it was fictional, it was not fictional.
It's so funny, it was notfictional, it was purely based
on our upbringing.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like to the T and the detail of it is.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It was really brilliant because the way that
you were able to Oh thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Go on The way you tied memory with, creatively
tying all that together in a way.
That's like I wonder if peoplewho watch that understand how
specifically real that was andthe way that you were able to
say so much about ourpersonalities by saying so
little.
You know, It's just so funny,like the detail of like the
(04:34):
Capri Sun and how mom, our mom,would use Capri Suns to like you
know, calm these storms, butyou were the least.
What's the word I'm looking for?
like reactive or yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
She knew you were the easiest to do with.
Well, yeah, in in certainsituations because I was the
middle child and I was the, thepeacemaker, mm-hmm Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, but that video it made me laugh so hard because
All of our relatives my mom,our mom's talking about like,
did you like that video?
I watched and I was like, oh,this is very funny.
But I just thought it was funny, like all your other videos are
funny.
And then I watched it againbecause mom kept talking about
it.
She was like that 84 beigeDotson.
She was like she's right, ithad no AC.
(05:20):
Yeah no radio and Leah used toalways cry Why am I the only one
in the neighborhood with no ACand no radio?
And she's doing an impressionof you that she thought was
hilarious, yeah, and And.
But I watched it again todayand, like all of those men, i
didn't remember all of thosethings because I was too young,
(05:43):
like the detail of it.
But then it all came like flash.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I actually started remembering, like they came,
they came flash back.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you know, like yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, i think that it was like the idea, for it was
like this when you're a kid,like Vacation is something that
we would look forward to allyear, right and like now looking
back at it as an adult, it'sjust like God that that was
Sounds like it was just terrible, like driving from.
(06:16):
Ohio to Florida, like taking a a15-hour drive with three kids
Screaming like fighting, who alllike hated each other in like a
car that was like didn't have.
This was before screens, thiswas before like with just like
radio and like no radio.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
What an the thing didn't have that thing didn't
even have a radio.
that was real, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah and like What a night, what a night, what a
nightmare for mom and dad Tohave to do that but they loved
it, they relished in it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's the thing that I'm saying.
Like I don't have that, likethat would have been my absolute
nightmare.
Yeah it's yeah, but theyinsisted because our aunt, who,
who was lovely, who everybodyloved and are so, so kind and
nice, she, she conveyed to ourmom that everyone takes a
vacation every year.
(07:11):
It's important.
No matter what no matter yourlike financial situation you
find, by that we went yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, so we grew up every year go.
We would go to Florida and itwas the best like looking back.
Those are some of those arelike my best memories of, of
childhood and but God, what likeThere were some explosions in
those cars.
You know like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Don't remember a lot of that.
I feel like I was young and Iblocked out.
The other thing I was so funnyis when you say in the video,
the younger brother, you're myyounger brother loses his mind
because our dad says he's gonnaturn the car around and he's Too
young to understand that you'renot bluffing.
Yeah.
I was like oh yeah, that's mefirst.
Yeah, Yeah, he's having ameltdown, just having a meltdown
, just having a total free.
(07:56):
Just like were you there thetime that I?
We're gonna have a rage buildup?
Yeah, yeah, that's what I wasthinking.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I was like, it was like it was like it was like a
super Intense car ride where itwas just like building, the
tension was building and youwere just like silent and then
it calmed down, like, and Thenit was like an hour later that
you just like Exploded and wehad a box of pizza and you just
like threw an entire pizza ontoMike.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Honestly, one of the proudest moments of my life.
Like if I could go back andrelive any, it would be that
yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, yeah, good, good, well, that's good that
that's your proudest moment.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, Also I know that in the.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
In the video I do the the moment where I talk about,
where I call everyone a bunch ofdildos, which is like a true
story.
This was.
It was actually like around thekitchen table and I didn't know
what the word meant, but I hadheard it on.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I had heard it on breakfast because we watch
breakfast over and over all thetime and in like it was just
like I was like y'all are abunch of.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And I thought I was, because in the movie They say he
says you're all acting like abunch of fucking dildos And I
was like.
I was like I'm gonna say thisbut I'm gonna leave out the f
word, because I know that's abad word, and I was like you're
all acting like a bunch ofdildos and the table just like
went silent and Like mom and dadgot so angry and I like had no
(09:26):
idea what I had done.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah, I can imagine you captured mom exactly
.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You're like, i don't know what I said.
I'm 11 right now.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, Oh yeah, it just had a nice ring to it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, so that I Wanted to talk about like
writing.
We we touched on writingprocess a little bit last
episode, but we didn't actuallyget into the The grimy, the
nitty gritty the nitty gritty,what.
Why don't you?
well, let me say that I feellike my writing process and
(10:07):
Everyone's.
Over the years it changes, likeas a young comic.
You're always like what is thetrick, what is the key?
You don't really know.
There's no formula, so you justtry different things and then
you change that process over theyears.
That's been my experience.
Yeah what is a day like for you?
walk me through your processand in a day.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I love this question I wake up, i.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Wake up, and that's that I wake up.
I'm brilliant, i wake up and.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I wake up and it's just done.
Do you mean in terms of likelike a day where I'm like I'm
gonna write today?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yes, not how you structure your day, but how you
approach that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, i mean, i feel like right now I am in a place
where I, you know, i've I'vebeen, i've been in LA for this
month and it's like theintention was to like be here
and just like really reset andget some new writing done.
And I Think, in a lot I've been, i've been a little, i've been
(11:14):
a little blocked these days,like I feel like I, i Every day
I'm like, okay, i'm gonna writetoday, and then I like go to a
coffee shop or I go and sit down, and it's just like I just
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I just don't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't know.
I like I, i'm like I can't.
I Don't know what I want towrite about right now.
Yeah, i mean that's such.
Yeah, right, no, no, no, like I, i And sometimes I can get past
that right, and sometimes it'slike you get past that that
(11:50):
moment and you Get into a flowand you're able to get stuff out
, but, like Recently, i haven'tbeen feeling that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Think that's such a relatable thing for so many
comics.
I think it is always a Valleyand peaks and sort of Creative
process.
It's hard to force.
You can structure it, whichwill help.
Yeah, it's hard to force and Ifeel like every time a new comic
has asked me What my process isthroughout the years, my answer
(12:25):
is always what you just said.
It's always like I don't writeenough.
They're like how do you write?
I'm like I don't write enough.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's not really, you know, it's funny that we I
think that that's the majorityof people's experience Mm-hmm,
yeah, because it's so hard Yeahthe blank piece of paper like
Yeah, taking that and knowingwhat's going to be funny.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Sorry, i keep cutting .
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, no, no, no, um, i Think that like for me right
now, it's also this thing oflike I think I'm thinking too
big picture about, about Writing, and like the next step,
because it's like I just tapedthis hour special, which is like
The material.
It's from across.
(13:08):
You know six or seven years ofwriting, and I think I'm like a
little bit in my head about like, okay, well, what's the next
hour?
Gonna, what do I want that tolook like and feel like and what
do I want like the themes to be?
and I think I'm just like Thinkit's, like it's a little bit.
I can't, i'm not gonna knowthat until, you know, a year
(13:30):
from now, when I have it likeit's, i think I just need to
like Start small and just belike, well, what's the thing
that like I want to write abouttoday?
What's like interesting To me,what's like a story that I want
to tell, or like where is mywhat?
what, what's a topic that Iwant to just like meditate on
(13:51):
today?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, because otherwise the teams will come.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll come out
naturally, i think.
But I think it's just like I'mI'm a little bit paralyzed by
the big picture, yeah.
Yeah yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean it's it's a daunting task, but I think
you're Yeah, i think you'reright to like Understand that
it's not.
You don't need to think abouthow Your joke is.
You're your sets gonna becohesive in an hour or whatever,
how these themes are gonnarelate to.
You're just gonna write aboutyour interests and then,
(14:26):
naturally, those themes willpresent and Mold together and
the material will shape itselfin that way, yeah, yeah much
like your hour did, but I thinkyou'll experience something very
different in this next hour,where you will be able to get it
done in a year and it will bebetter than your seven years of
material was.
I think you'll find that,because of how much you're
(14:47):
working, you know you weren'tworking like this for the In
terms of like quality stage timefor the last six years.
Yeah, it's very different theway that that that material will
develop exponentially.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's true, but I think that, like there's I also
think that and I feel like we'vetalked about this a lot on here
Just about like the idea thatyou have to be able, you have to
be willing to take big risks,and there's jokes that I've been
doing that, i have been holdingonto that and I'm just so tired
(15:22):
of them, and they were fine.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You hate them.
You start to hate them.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I hate them.
I feel so resentful towards thejokes.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, you hate that, it works.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I hate that.
It makes me feel so full ofself-hatred when they come out
of it.
When I walk off stage, i'm likewell, I did that, but that
didn't feel good at all.
So I don't know.
I think that that's probably acommon experience too.
I think that you've expressedthat.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's a common experience in any comedian who
is not a hack, because a hack itjust goes whatever this is
great, this feels good and anartist goes no, it doesn't
matter how hard they're laughing.
I've done this a thousand times.
I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, but it's so scary to start from scratch.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yes, yeah, comedy's hard, kids.
Don't try it at home.
Or you should try it at home,like I did, living with my
parents.
Hit it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Hit it.
That was me doing symbols.
That was me doing the symbolsat the end of a joke.
Ba, ba ba.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Ba, ba, ba, Cha, cha cha.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Cha cha, cha, ba, ba, ba ba.
I'm loving it.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You should do some more drums for Clinton to sample
.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Ba ba ba Ba ba ba ba Ba ba cha ba cha ba cha ba cha
cha cha cha changes, turn thebeat around.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Turn the beat around.
Yeah, that's not the DavidListen.
So, uh-oh, it's going in thequarter jar.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh, i said, listen, it's going in the quarter jar.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Here's something that I really wanted to talk about
is you know how Sheila likes totroll and she likes to make fun?
Well, what's one of herfavorite topics to make fun of
me for?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Um.
What does mommy like?
to make fun of you for Yestattoos She likes to.
Tattoos She likes to make funof you for your tattoos because
she's horrified that you'vemarred the beautiful body that
she created, that she birthedout of her.
How dare you ruin?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Don't say birth like that.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, that's the truth.
You were birthed out of her.
You were, were you not?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't know, maybe I was Sorry, did you?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
come out of daddy's butthole.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Don't.
What are you doing?
No, I didn't come out ofdaddy's butthole.
Why did I repeat it?
I love how that made you laughso hard, Yeah it did.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It made me laugh.
You couldn't even get it out.
I thought of it in my head andI was like this is going to be
gross and funny.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So so mommy doesn't like your tattoos, Nor does she
like the greater world's tattoos, right?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
She doesn't like tattoos.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
She's constantly making fun of, and she was on
one talking about tattoos, andSo she starts to do an
impression of somebodypresumably getting tattoos and
explaining why they get tattoos.
She said suffer and celebrate,suffer and celebrate.
(18:58):
Look at my arm, look at mythighs, look how tough I am,
suffer and celebrate What.
I guess that's the theme shethinks people want.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean, that's so poetic.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
They're like look how tough I am.
It is suffer and celebrate.
And I told her.
I said, what if I got thattattooed on me Because it made
me laugh so hard?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, because, literally, like, anyone will say
a phrase or you'll get an ideaand you'll be like, oh, what if
I get that tattooed on me?
And everyone's like, yeah, thatwould be funny.
And then you do it, yeah, wow,then you do it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm going to get a gummy bear getting fished by my
shark, so Getting fished.
I asked I'm on one today.
Yeah, you certainly are Gettingfished.
I said what if I got thattattooed?
(20:01):
And she said I'd kill myselfbecause I gave you the idea.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Wow, god, that's dark .
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Suffer and celebrate.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Suffer and celebrate.
That should be the name of yournext album, though That's a
really good album title.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Oh, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That should be the name of your CrowdWork album.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, oh, which is a great segue into.
I wanted to ask you what youlike is two part question What
you like out of your openerssince this is kind of headlining
is new to you now.
in the last year you haven'treally had openers prior.
So, what do you like out of anopener, both onstage and
offstage?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
in the brain room When they give me compliments.
I like when they give mecompliments and treats Treats.
Just kidding, i am.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And sorry, two parter , how do you feel about
CrowdWork, Because a lot ofpeople talk about how it affects
the dynamic of the show.
A lot of headliners don't likeit.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
A lot of headliners don't like it.
I don't mind it when openers doCrowdWork, i mean I feel like
Sometimes I think it's nicebecause it opens up the room in
a way that I can engage with.
It's like getting when someonebefore me gets to know the
audience a little bit.
It's like there's stuff that Ican then play off of.
(21:22):
But when someone does too muchit can be problematic because
then you get up on stage andit's like they want the crowd,
then They want only crowd work.
They want only crowd work.
It's a strange.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And yes, And it's interesting because the people,
the headliners that don't likeit.
I've heard a lot.
one of the criticisms is thatthey don't want to have to watch
the whole show.
A lot of people like todecompress in the green room and
do their own thing, go throughtheir own routine, And if
somebody before you is doing aton of crowd work and then you
go out there and you're like,what do you two do?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And they're like we just talked about it, the whole
audience, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And then you look like an idiot.
But you, not you.
you're out there, peathing.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I'm out there creeping and peeping.
I'm out there creeping andpeeping.
No, i like to.
I mean, i like to watch theshow, i like to feel what the
like.
For me it feels reallyimportant, at least at this
point, to feel what the energyof the room is before, because
it's like, yeah, i don't likethe idea of going out cold and
(22:35):
not knowing what's come before,like that's yeah that's very
stressful to me.
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, especially if the no, the exact same.
Like if, especially if thecrowd's really really bad or
rowdy, like you need to knowabout that So you can like
adjust your game plan going inAnd sometimes, like, if a crowd
is insane and drunk, like youcan't really open with material
because they're not payingattention, and you have to know
that and you have to be ready tolike I don't know, make fun of
(23:02):
somebody in the room in theaudience who's being stupid or
something Like find somethingthat's happened Like you talked
about, like to play off of thecomic before you And, like you
know, with me it's like we'resiblings.
So like it's definitely, likeprobably crucial when I am
before you for you to really payattention and like you know,
(23:24):
because you know my jokes, soyou don't know if, like, i might
not do a joke.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, there's some jokes that, like I do, that I
often will reference somethingthat you talked about right
before, and if you don't do thatjoke, then it's like, oh well.
Or if you do it and I don't youknow yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, what a treat for you that you get to learn
from me set after set.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Oh God, I mean, I am.
I am thanking my lucky stars.
What do you like?
What do you like in an opener?
What Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
What do you like in an open?
I like somebody who is it'sit's way.
it's funny because I always wastaught this early on, but I
didn't really understand it thatit's way more important how
they act offstage than how theyact onstage, And not to say that
they're how they do onstage isvery, very important, but it's a
(24:18):
little bit more important howthey are to be around, because
if you can't hang out like it'ssuch a stressful when you have
to be around them all the time,like if it's a weekend.
It's the whole weekend.
You're like, you're basicallylike living with this person.
So, yeah, that's very important, I think.
I think somebody who is notgoing to react to the way that I
(24:40):
did in my early years whenthings go wrong, I like what I
look for is the opposite of howI was when I was a new comic.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So I want new comics to not be how I was, someone who
doesn't make it about themright, where it's like they
understand that, like howeverthey did on stage, is like you
know.
I think that the instinct where, if you open for someone, like
early on, and you bomb, you wantto go back and be like I'm
sorry, i bombed, like I messedit up, i just want you to know
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that.
I know that I did bad.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How bad it was, and that is Not about you.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
It's not about you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's not about you Yeah, and nobody cares.
Everybody's in their own head.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And then you put the onus on the other person to like
take care of you and to be likeno, no, no, like, let me, let
me talk you down.
You did great, and that's not aposition that anybody wants to
be in, especially somebody whois like is going through their
own insecurities Is above you.
Is going, but is also likegoing through their own stuff
where it's like you know, doingan hour or doing 45 minutes to
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an hour.
Like you're thinking about yourown insecurities and your own,
like what went right, what wentwrong, like you shouldn't have
to, like you know, walk someonedown from that.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Hold their hand, yeah .
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, It's exhausting And it's like, yeah, it's so
crazy when you see it.
A good example we talk aboutHannah Youngholm a lot.
She's a good example of whatyou should be like.
Like she never, never madeShayna too, who you have opened
for you a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, shayna Rabani, i've had opened for me the past
couple of weeks and is just likesuch a like, so so funny, so
like lovely and wonderful Bothof these comics.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So funny Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, Just like just.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't mean to put there like, yeah, offstage, no,
no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean that's also like important, that like it's a
person who can kind of likeopen up a room and actually has
like good jokes, Like you know,like I feel like I love working
with both of them so much.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, who are your top two least favorite people
you've had open.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's a great question, Let me.
Let me get into it.
I'm gonna name names, I feellike, and I won't, I won't.
I won't say any specificdetails about this, but we had
someone recently because when wedo, when we co-headline, it's
like a host feature who justlike got on stage and just did
like everything wrong, right,Like didn't, didn't know our
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names, didn't know who to bringup, Like didn't know, like mixed
up all the credits and then didlike a really kind of like like
hateful racist set.
And they were just like, okay,this is, you're literally, this
is like by the book, like every,you did every single thing
wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, yeah, yes, and seasoned to about a decade into
comedy.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's.
That's the thing that theperson was so nervous.
And then they were like, oh,i'm a decade in it.
I was like what?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, why are you nervous?
There was, there was some,there was some weird stuff going
on there, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But we don't want to focus on all that negativity.
No no no, no, no, no.
Well, great, i think we'rerunning out of time.
We had a few more things wewant to talk about.
We'll just push it to the nextone.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We'll just push to the next one, and yeah.
Yeah, we have.
We have some fun shows comingup that we'll be in Pittsburgh
together July 14th and thenGrand Rapids at the end of July,
bloomington in August.
It's all in the outro.
But yeah.
Come on out to those shows.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
They'll be fun.
Come out, yeah, and we're gonna.
We don't, the details are stillin the works, but eventually
we're gonna be switching.
Should we talk about this?
yet The Patreon stuff?
We don't really know.
We don't have details yet.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, we can hold off and talk about it when we have
the details.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But do you want to share it now?
Okay, No, eventually we're justwe're shifting things around,
but it's gonna be great, we'remixing things up.
We're gonna mix things up, it'sgonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
The point is join the Patreon.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's the.
That's really the point.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's really the point.
Ah, all right, all right, allright, great stuff.
Great stuff, have a great day.
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye.
Who do you think that is Sissy?
I don't know, brother.
Maybe it's Mommy and Daddy.
Should we answer it?
Maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Pete's way to flip sis.
It could be a listener or itcould be Stranger danger.
Lose a hug, lose a hug, live it.
Oh yeah, and we're grown-upsnow.
(00:33):
Welcome to the Rudexer Home.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
A sister brother podcast How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That's not an answer.
How are you?
You're in LA.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Uh-oh, aunt Kathy is coming out clawing, here she
comes.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm having some red wine.
I'm having some cookies andwine.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Kathy lives off of cookies and wine.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
She does.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I am at my lovely girlfriend's house, Amy, who
taught me everything I know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, yes.
And uh, I'm a cat daddy, you'rea cat daddy.
You've been fostering kittens.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yes, yeah, how's that going?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
How many kittens do you have?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
A little butterscotch is over here.
Uh six, and I rename themconstantly.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh, you give them new names every day.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, this little guy doesn't like to be held.
He gets.
He's not very cuddly, but he iscute.
He's got these big eyes.
Oh see, he doesn't want to.
Okay, we're not doing a catpodcast, let's get back.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's sort of Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You were saying before you went on your little
cat loving.
They've changed me.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Tangent They've changed you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, and you've changed them.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Literally, you change their names every day Yes.
Which I think is probably verytraumatic for them.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No, i don't think they care.
They don't seem to mind, do youbutterscotch?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
If I ever have a kid, I'm going to change its name
every day.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't You know what I?
see mom, the way that shedelights in her children, in her
grandchildren, and I've justnever, i don't ever Like, i've
never felt that way.
It's just not for me.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You don't have the.
You don't have the.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Parenting.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You don't have parenting in your blood, you
don't have the old No paternalinstinct.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
No, you don't, they're fun.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah, they're fun, but you know, you're an
uncle Kid, You're an uncle.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Uncle's being an uncle's fun.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You're an uncle at all.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I went to Coney Island with our niece and mom
yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, did you pee pee in the pool?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, i did not, but I got in this like mini water
game with our niece and thispool was disgusting.
It was like one of thoseinflatable ones you would have
had.
It would have been yournightmare.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
At Coney Island.
It was spider central.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it was like a little inflatable one off to the
side.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Why didn't you go in the big, in the huge pool?
We did, oh, okay, we did Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Mom brought dad's SPF 150.
So we all looked like ghosts.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
We looked like ghouls Good In the pool, that's fun
Yeah.
Yeah, great.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, so here's what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Let's get right into it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Like.
so you made a video recently Itwas a meditation detailing our
childhood vacation that we tookto Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, it was fictional, it was not fictional.
It's so funny, it was notfictional, it was purely based
on our upbringing.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like to the T and the detail of it is.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It was really brilliant because the way that
you were able to Oh thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Go on The way you tied memory with, creatively
tying all that together in a way.
That's like I wonder if peoplewho watch that understand how
specifically real that was andthe way that you were able to
say so much about ourpersonalities by saying so
little.
You know, It's just so funny,like the detail of like the
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Capri Sun and how mom, our mom,would use Capri Suns to like you
know, calm these storms, butyou were the least.
What's the word I'm looking for?
like reactive or yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
She knew you were the easiest to do with.
Well, yeah, in in certainsituations because I was the
middle child and I was the, thepeacemaker, mm-hmm Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, but that video it made me laugh so hard because
All of our relatives my mom,our mom's talking about like,
did you like that video?
I watched and I was like, oh,this is very funny.
But I just thought it was funny, like all your other videos are
funny.
And then I watched it againbecause mom kept talking about
it.
She was like that 84 beigeDotson.
She was like she's right, ithad no AC.
(05:20):
Yeah no radio and Leah used toalways cry Why am I the only one
in the neighborhood with no ACand no radio?
And she's doing an impressionof you that she thought was
hilarious, yeah, and And.
But I watched it again todayand, like all of those men, i
didn't remember all of thosethings because I was too young,
(05:43):
like the detail of it.
But then it all came like flash.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I actually started remembering, like they came,
they came flash back.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you know, like yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, i think that it was like the idea, for it was
like this when you're a kid,like Vacation is something that
we would look forward to allyear, right and like now looking
back at it as an adult, it'sjust like God that that was
Sounds like it was just terrible, like driving from.
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Ohio to Florida, like taking a a15-hour drive with three kids
Screaming like fighting, who alllike hated each other in like a
car that was like didn't have.
This was before screens, thiswas before like with just like
radio and like no radio.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
What an the thing didn't have that thing didn't
even have a radio.
that was real, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah and like What a night, what a night, what a
nightmare for mom and dad Tohave to do that but they loved
it, they relished in it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's the thing that I'm saying.
Like I don't have that, likethat would have been my absolute
nightmare.
Yeah it's yeah, but theyinsisted because our aunt, who,
who was lovely, who everybodyloved and are so, so kind and
nice, she, she conveyed to ourmom that everyone takes a
vacation every year.
(07:11):
It's important.
No matter what no matter yourlike financial situation you
find, by that we went yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, so we grew up every year go.
We would go to Florida and itwas the best like looking back.
Those are some of those arelike my best memories of, of
childhood and but God, what likeThere were some explosions in
those cars.
You know like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Don't remember a lot of that.
I feel like I was young and Iblocked out.
The other thing I was so funnyis when you say in the video,
the younger brother, you're myyounger brother loses his mind
because our dad says he's gonnaturn the car around and he's Too
young to understand that you'renot bluffing.
Yeah.
I was like oh yeah, that's mefirst.
Yeah, Yeah, he's having ameltdown, just having a meltdown
, just having a total free.
(07:56):
Just like were you there thetime that I?
We're gonna have a rage buildup?
Yeah, yeah, that's what I wasthinking.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I was like, it was like it was like it was like a
super Intense car ride where itwas just like building, the
tension was building and youwere just like silent and then
it calmed down, like, and Thenit was like an hour later that
you just like Exploded and wehad a box of pizza and you just
like threw an entire pizza ontoMike.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Honestly, one of the proudest moments of my life.
Like if I could go back andrelive any, it would be that
yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, yeah, good, good, well, that's good that
that's your proudest moment.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, Also I know that in the.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
In the video I do the the moment where I talk about,
where I call everyone a bunch ofdildos, which is like a true
story.
This was.
It was actually like around thekitchen table and I didn't know
what the word meant, but I hadheard it on.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I had heard it on breakfast because we watch
breakfast over and over all thetime and in like it was just
like I was like y'all are abunch of.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And I thought I was, because in the movie They say he
says you're all acting like abunch of fucking dildos And I
was like.
I was like I'm gonna say thisbut I'm gonna leave out the f
word, because I know that's abad word, and I was like you're
all acting like a bunch ofdildos and the table just like
went silent and Like mom and dadgot so angry and I like had no
(09:26):
idea what I had done.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah, I can imagine you captured mom exactly
.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You're like, i don't know what I said.
I'm 11 right now.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, Oh yeah, it just had a nice ring to it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, so that I Wanted to talk about like
writing.
We we touched on writingprocess a little bit last
episode, but we didn't actuallyget into the The grimy, the
nitty gritty the nitty gritty,what.
Why don't you?
well, let me say that I feellike my writing process and
(10:07):
Everyone's.
Over the years it changes, likeas a young comic.
You're always like what is thetrick, what is the key?
You don't really know.
There's no formula, so you justtry different things and then
you change that process over theyears.
That's been my experience.
Yeah what is a day like for you?
walk me through your processand in a day.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I love this question I wake up, i.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Wake up, and that's that I wake up.
I'm brilliant, i wake up and.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I wake up and it's just done.
Do you mean in terms of likelike a day where I'm like I'm
gonna write today?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yes, not how you structure your day, but how you
approach that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, i mean, i feel like right now I am in a place
where I, you know, i've I'vebeen, i've been in LA for this
month and it's like theintention was to like be here
and just like really reset andget some new writing done.
And I Think, in a lot I've been, i've been a little, i've been
(11:14):
a little blocked these days,like I feel like I, i Every day
I'm like, okay, i'm gonna writetoday, and then I like go to a
coffee shop or I go and sit down, and it's just like I just
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I just don't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't know.
I like I, i'm like I can't.
I Don't know what I want towrite about right now.
Yeah, i mean that's such.
Yeah, right, no, no, no, like I, i And sometimes I can get past
that right, and sometimes it'slike you get past that that
(11:50):
moment and you Get into a flowand you're able to get stuff out
, but, like Recently, i haven'tbeen feeling that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Think that's such a relatable thing for so many
comics.
I think it is always a Valleyand peaks and sort of Creative
process.
It's hard to force.
You can structure it, whichwill help.
Yeah, it's hard to force and Ifeel like every time a new comic
has asked me What my process isthroughout the years, my answer
(12:25):
is always what you just said.
It's always like I don't writeenough.
They're like how do you write?
I'm like I don't write enough.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's not really, you know, it's funny that we I
think that that's the majorityof people's experience Mm-hmm,
yeah, because it's so hard Yeahthe blank piece of paper like
Yeah, taking that and knowingwhat's going to be funny.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Sorry, i keep cutting .
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, no, no, no, um, i Think that like for me right
now, it's also this thing oflike I think I'm thinking too
big picture about, about Writing, and like the next step,
because it's like I just tapedthis hour special, which is like
The material.
It's from across.
(13:08):
You know six or seven years ofwriting, and I think I'm like a
little bit in my head about like, okay, well, what's the next
hour?
Gonna, what do I want that tolook like and feel like and what
do I want like the themes to be?
and I think I'm just like Thinkit's, like it's a little bit.
I can't, i'm not gonna knowthat until, you know, a year
(13:30):
from now, when I have it likeit's, i think I just need to
like Start small and just belike, well, what's the thing
that like I want to write abouttoday?
What's like interesting To me,what's like a story that I want
to tell, or like where is mywhat?
what, what's a topic that Iwant to just like meditate on
(13:51):
today?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, because otherwise the teams will come.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll come out
naturally, i think.
But I think it's just like I'mI'm a little bit paralyzed by
the big picture, yeah.
Yeah yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean it's it's a daunting task, but I think
you're Yeah, i think you'reright to like Understand that
it's not.
You don't need to think abouthow Your joke is.
You're your sets gonna becohesive in an hour or whatever,
how these themes are gonnarelate to.
You're just gonna write aboutyour interests and then,
(14:26):
naturally, those themes willpresent and Mold together and
the material will shape itselfin that way, yeah, yeah much
like your hour did, but I thinkyou'll experience something very
different in this next hour,where you will be able to get it
done in a year and it will bebetter than your seven years of
material was.
I think you'll find that,because of how much you're
(14:47):
working, you know you weren'tworking like this for the In
terms of like quality stage timefor the last six years.
Yeah, it's very different theway that that that material will
develop exponentially.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's true, but I think that, like there's I also
think that and I feel like we'vetalked about this a lot on here
Just about like the idea thatyou have to be able, you have to
be willing to take big risks,and there's jokes that I've been
doing that, i have been holdingonto that and I'm just so tired
(15:22):
of them, and they were fine.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You hate them.
You start to hate them.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I hate them.
I feel so resentful towards thejokes.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, you hate that, it works.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I hate that.
It makes me feel so full ofself-hatred when they come out
of it.
When I walk off stage, i'm likewell, I did that, but that
didn't feel good at all.
So I don't know.
I think that that's probably acommon experience too.
I think that you've expressedthat.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's a common experience in any comedian who
is not a hack, because a hack itjust goes whatever this is
great, this feels good and anartist goes no, it doesn't
matter how hard they're laughing.
I've done this a thousand times.
I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, but it's so scary to start from scratch.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yes, yeah, comedy's hard, kids.
Don't try it at home.
Or you should try it at home,like I did, living with my
parents.
Hit it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Hit it.
That was me doing symbols.
That was me doing the symbolsat the end of a joke.
Ba, ba ba.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Ba, ba, ba, Cha, cha cha.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Cha cha, cha, ba, ba, ba ba.
I'm loving it.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You should do some more drums for Clinton to sample
.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Ba ba ba Ba ba ba ba Ba ba cha ba cha ba cha ba cha
cha cha cha changes, turn thebeat around.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Turn the beat around.
Yeah, that's not the DavidListen.
So, uh-oh, it's going in thequarter jar.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh, i said, listen, it's going in the quarter jar.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Here's something that I really wanted to talk about
is you know how Sheila likes totroll and she likes to make fun?
Well, what's one of herfavorite topics to make fun of
me for?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Um.
What does mommy like?
to make fun of you for Yestattoos She likes to.
Tattoos She likes to make funof you for your tattoos because
she's horrified that you'vemarred the beautiful body that
she created, that she birthedout of her.
How dare you ruin?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Don't say birth like that.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, that's the truth.
You were birthed out of her.
You were, were you not?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't know, maybe I was Sorry, did you?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
come out of daddy's butthole.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Don't.
What are you doing?
No, I didn't come out ofdaddy's butthole.
Why did I repeat it?
I love how that made you laughso hard, Yeah it did.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It made me laugh.
You couldn't even get it out.
I thought of it in my head andI was like this is going to be
gross and funny.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So so mommy doesn't like your tattoos, Nor does she
like the greater world's tattoos, right?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
She doesn't like tattoos.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
She's constantly making fun of, and she was on
one talking about tattoos, andSo she starts to do an
impression of somebodypresumably getting tattoos and
explaining why they get tattoos.
She said suffer and celebrate,suffer and celebrate.
(18:58):
Look at my arm, look at mythighs, look how tough I am,
suffer and celebrate What.
I guess that's the theme shethinks people want.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean, that's so poetic.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
They're like look how tough I am.
It is suffer and celebrate.
And I told her.
I said, what if I got thattattooed on me Because it made
me laugh so hard?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, because, literally, like, anyone will say
a phrase or you'll get an ideaand you'll be like, oh, what if
I get that tattooed on me?
And everyone's like, yeah, thatwould be funny.
And then you do it, yeah, wow,then you do it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm going to get a gummy bear getting fished by my
shark, so Getting fished.
I asked I'm on one today.
Yeah, you certainly are Gettingfished.
I said what if I got thattattooed?
(20:01):
And she said I'd kill myselfbecause I gave you the idea.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Wow, god, that's dark .
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Suffer and celebrate.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Suffer and celebrate.
That should be the name of yournext album, though That's a
really good album title.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Oh, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That should be the name of your CrowdWork album.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, oh, which is a great segue into.
I wanted to ask you what youlike is two part question What
you like out of your openerssince this is kind of headlining
is new to you now.
in the last year you haven'treally had openers prior.
So, what do you like out of anopener, both onstage and
offstage?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
in the brain room When they give me compliments.
I like when they give mecompliments and treats Treats.
Just kidding, i am.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And sorry, two parter , how do you feel about
CrowdWork, Because a lot ofpeople talk about how it affects
the dynamic of the show.
A lot of headliners don't likeit.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
A lot of headliners don't like it.
I don't mind it when openers doCrowdWork, i mean I feel like
Sometimes I think it's nicebecause it opens up the room in
a way that I can engage with.
It's like getting when someonebefore me gets to know the
audience a little bit.
It's like there's stuff that Ican then play off of.
(21:22):
But when someone does too muchit can be problematic because
then you get up on stage andit's like they want the crowd,
then They want only crowd work.
They want only crowd work.
It's a strange.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And yes, And it's interesting because the people,
the headliners that don't likeit.
I've heard a lot.
one of the criticisms is thatthey don't want to have to watch
the whole show.
A lot of people like todecompress in the green room and
do their own thing, go throughtheir own routine, And if
somebody before you is doing aton of crowd work and then you
go out there and you're like,what do you two do?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And they're like we just talked about it, the whole
audience, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And then you look like an idiot.
But you, not you.
you're out there, peathing.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I'm out there creeping and peeping.
I'm out there creeping andpeeping.
No, i like to.
I mean, i like to watch theshow, i like to feel what the
like.
For me it feels reallyimportant, at least at this
point, to feel what the energyof the room is before, because
it's like, yeah, i don't likethe idea of going out cold and
(22:35):
not knowing what's come before,like that's yeah that's very
stressful to me.
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, especially if the no, the exact same.
Like if, especially if thecrowd's really really bad or
rowdy, like you need to knowabout that So you can like
adjust your game plan going inAnd sometimes, like, if a crowd
is insane and drunk, like youcan't really open with material
because they're not payingattention, and you have to know
that and you have to be ready tolike I don't know, make fun of
(23:02):
somebody in the room in theaudience who's being stupid or
something Like find somethingthat's happened Like you talked
about, like to play off of thecomic before you And, like you
know, with me it's like we'resiblings.
So like it's definitely, likeprobably crucial when I am
before you for you to really payattention and like you know,
(23:24):
because you know my jokes, soyou don't know if, like, i might
not do a joke.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, there's some jokes that, like I do, that I
often will reference somethingthat you talked about right
before, and if you don't do thatjoke, then it's like, oh well.
Or if you do it and I don't youknow yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, what a treat for you that you get to learn
from me set after set.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Oh God, I mean, I am.
I am thanking my lucky stars.
What do you like?
What do you like in an opener?
What Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
What do you like in an open?
I like somebody who is it'sit's way.
it's funny because I always wastaught this early on, but I
didn't really understand it thatit's way more important how
they act offstage than how theyact onstage, And not to say that
they're how they do onstage isvery, very important, but it's a
(24:18):
little bit more important howthey are to be around, because
if you can't hang out like it'ssuch a stressful when you have
to be around them all the time,like if it's a weekend.
It's the whole weekend.
You're like, you're basicallylike living with this person.
So, yeah, that's very important, I think.
I think somebody who is notgoing to react to the way that I
(24:40):
did in my early years whenthings go wrong, I like what I
look for is the opposite of howI was when I was a new comic.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So I want new comics to not be how I was, someone who
doesn't make it about themright, where it's like they
understand that, like howeverthey did on stage, is like you
know.
I think that the instinct where, if you open for someone, like
early on, and you bomb, you wantto go back and be like I'm
sorry, i bombed, like I messedit up, i just want you to know
(25:10):
that.
I know that I did bad.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How bad it was, and that is Not about you.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
It's not about you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's not about you Yeah, and nobody cares.
Everybody's in their own head.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And then you put the onus on the other person to like
take care of you and to be likeno, no, no, like, let me, let
me talk you down.
You did great, and that's not aposition that anybody wants to
be in, especially somebody whois like is going through their
own insecurities Is above you.
Is going, but is also likegoing through their own stuff
where it's like you know, doingan hour or doing 45 minutes to
(25:43):
an hour.
Like you're thinking about yourown insecurities and your own,
like what went right, what wentwrong, like you shouldn't have
to, like you know, walk someonedown from that.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Hold their hand, yeah .
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, It's exhausting And it's like, yeah, it's so
crazy when you see it.
A good example we talk aboutHannah Youngholm a lot.
She's a good example of whatyou should be like.
Like she never, never madeShayna too, who you have opened
for you a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, shayna Rabani, i've had opened for me the past
couple of weeks and is just likesuch a like, so so funny, so
like lovely and wonderful Bothof these comics.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So funny Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, Just like just.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't mean to put there like, yeah, offstage, no,
no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean that's also like important, that like it's a
person who can kind of likeopen up a room and actually has
like good jokes, Like you know,like I feel like I love working
with both of them so much.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, who are your top two least favorite people
you've had open.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's a great question, Let me.
Let me get into it.
I'm gonna name names, I feellike, and I won't, I won't.
I won't say any specificdetails about this, but we had
someone recently because when wedo, when we co-headline, it's
like a host feature who justlike got on stage and just did
like everything wrong, right,Like didn't, didn't know our
(27:13):
names, didn't know who to bringup, Like didn't know, like mixed
up all the credits and then didlike a really kind of like like
hateful racist set.
And they were just like, okay,this is, you're literally, this
is like by the book, like every,you did every single thing
wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, yeah, yes, and seasoned to about a decade into
comedy.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's.
That's the thing that theperson was so nervous.
And then they were like, oh,i'm a decade in it.
I was like what?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, why are you nervous?
There was, there was some,there was some weird stuff going
on there, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But we don't want to focus on all that negativity.
No no no, no, no, no.
Well, great, i think we'rerunning out of time.
We had a few more things wewant to talk about.
We'll just push it to the nextone.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We'll just push to the next one, and yeah.
Yeah, we have.
We have some fun shows comingup that we'll be in Pittsburgh
together July 14th and thenGrand Rapids at the end of July,
bloomington in August.
It's all in the outro.
But yeah.
Come on out to those shows.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
They'll be fun.
Come out, yeah, and we're gonna.
We don't, the details are stillin the works, but eventually
we're gonna be switching.
Should we talk about this?
yet The Patreon stuff?
We don't really know.
We don't have details yet.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, we can hold off and talk about it when we have
the details.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But do you want to share it now?
Okay, No, eventually we're justwe're shifting things around,
but it's gonna be great, we'remixing things up.
We're gonna mix things up, it'sgonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
The point is join the Patreon.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's the.
That's really the point.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's really the point.
Ah, all right, all right, allright, great stuff.
Great stuff, have a great day.
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye.
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