The Rundown #17

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, weare bad. Welcome back to the Rundown.
We had a bit of a littlebit of a hey it is last
week, not necessary, not necessarilybecause there was anything like actually important,
but like Elvian Ring's Shadow of thear Try came out and I told Brian
straight up, we're not having anepisode this week. It comes up the
same day we're supposed to record.I'm sorry, like like that, like

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like it was one, it wasn'tthe only, it wasn't the biggest,
but it was certainly a reason Ididn't fucking kill myself back in November,
so here so definitely important enough todo that. So yeah, and Evan
is allowing me now to take offthe week of October eleventh so I may
play Spartaning zero. So it's alleven in my eyes. Yeah, like

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like one maybe two games a yearwhere we're just going to bad job,
Like like that's that's the ball again, Like I think I think that taking
time off for a video game releaseyou're super excited about is it completely valid
thing. I'd be doing it withwork if Christmas wasn't so close, you

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mean, if Christmas wasn't so close. I'm saying in October, yeah,
my thing was coming out. Now. I would have definitely asked off.
I would have been like, yo, bro going to vacation in like Hawaii
for a week. So can Iget off please, spartans here, is
that a Halo game? No,that's the dragon Ball Z game. Yah

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all, but listen, I've beenwatching videos I'll get so I'll play.
I played bud Uh two or three, which ever one of the one of
the ones was on the pso thisis number four? Are you hype?
Are you crazy? Yeah? Ohmy god? And then I know I

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talked about this last week. Justlet me fucking or two weeks ago.
Just let me go for me,go for it. They are doing.
They are doing what if scenarios thatare player fully designed, and they give
you access to like cut scenes anddialogue options and everything like that, and
then you can upload it online andplay people's fucking what if scenarios. And
the Dragon Ball Universe, which ispretty much like xeno Verse, but it

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was always just released as DC straightfrom Vandynamco. And now we actually get
to created So I love that.That's fucking hype. Yeah. Also,
go ahead, no, finish thepoint I was just gonna say that like
that kind of gets in too.Like one of the things I heard heard
this week with uh, a lotof companies now looking at like YouTube as

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their streaming companies and YouTube as theirbiggest editor, and Disney Plus was looking
at me at doing user generated content. And so it's like there's a big
push right now for companies to domake to a lot to bring in user
generated content and some capacity as akind of way to you know, don't

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have to develop any bring content.But continue. I'm not saying that's what
they're doing. I'm not saying that'swhat they're doing. But even so continue,
I got you. I was gonnaask what console first and foremost is
space for me? Two gonna becross playing? Because if it is,
I'm getting on PS five and we'replaying. If it isn't, then I'm

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getting there on PSC pc A we'replaying. That's a good question. Let
me ask it is not going tobe? It is nothing? Well all
you all you got. All you'regonna have to do is just fload up
like plug in a controller and loadit up. Yeah, I know,
no problem, It'll be okay.But yeah, those are the two big

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releases that I'm at least counting onby the end of the year that I'm
hype about Kitten. I'm like Iyou will accept the love of from me
whether you wanted. I've been justa quick question for me. If it's
too hard for the recording, don'tworry about it. But is there a

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way I could just see you andnot see me? Oh? Yeah,
that's just I can sort that out. Fine. Oh get me wrong.
I like looking at myself. I'ma little narcissistic, but I like looking
at you more much better. Thankyou. I wanted to see the kitten

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Moore. Yeah he's this, andI mean to all the fans. I
don't know if anybody is watching liveright now, but thank you so much
for supporting us and not watching twogeriatrics show at each other because that's going
on right now. Yeah, that'sthat's that's that. I'm doing that tomorrow
I'm going to be doing and goingto be uh uh reacting to that.

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I'm just gonna grab the vod orfuck it. I might end up doing
it tonight afterword of recording. Imean, I won't lie if you if
you want to, I'd be downto jump on it with you. If
you don't know one hund but Ido not want this rundown but just that,
and I'll no, no, no, no, definitely like like like
the like if we do that,we're probably gonna end up doing the jumping

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in hindsight, like we're gonna recordthis, We're gonna have like a fifteen
to twenty minute like go eat somethingand drink piss ship all of that.
I'm gonna go eat something real quickbecause I know that this next two and
a half hours of my life ofwho is going to be a more is
going to be the Kendrick Drake BeefSpecial to Electric Boogalo all over again.

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And hey, I gotta say,I am enjoying h doing these dual streams
with like an event going on,because you been two weeks ago with Summer
game Fest and all that ship thatwas fun too, So I'm definitely enjoying
this for sure. But we don'twant the rundowns just to be to react
podcast all of mymselves. Definitely not. But uh, if if I let

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me just pull up the Hi MediaTV News Update, the podcast I do
for me ship, yep, uh, this is actually that's nature. Let's
pull up nerd news. I thinkNERD News would be a much more abtinct
full topics from today because there's beena couple of things. Well, the
first thing I want to discuss priorto any possible topic polls. Are you

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aware of this doctor disrespect situation?Yes, let us talk about it because
because here's the thing, right,uh, Like, I've never liked doctor
disrespect. I never consumed his content. I consumed a little bit of this
content. I just was. Iwas not a fan. He always gave
me kind of a pedal vibe.Not not a pedal vibe he did get,

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but but something pedal adjacent. Hedid give me like as like crypto
right, crypto fast type of fun, you know, you know what I
mean. Like he's like the typeof like he's the type of person who
if he wasn't a live streamer andhe just had a normal job, he'd
be in one of those right wingfacebookers like Abel Bullshit, like one of
those I think his person is likepublic persona is that, And I think

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that's probably what drove both of usaway, because I definitely agree, I
just don't know enough about the personalman to say definitively yes, if you
know it all good, then,yes, sure, but this shit is
pissing me off so much because forfour years, for four fucking years,
and not anybody in the media's faultor even people working for Twitch, they

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were concerned about being sued. Butfor four years, everybody was holding onto
the secret that this motherfucker and excusemy language, I know we're less than
ten minutes in, but that thisperson, this streamer, was I don't
even want to go as far asto say victimizing minors, but what seemed
to be the start of victimizing victimizinga minor through a very secret channel on

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Twitch that is no longer available thanchrist Uh you mean Whisper. Yeah,
is Whisper still available? So Igot, I got people, I get
people whispering me all the fucking likeGrantimble. I'm like, I don't fucking
care, Like it's it is atab up in the header of Twitch that
I just don't fucking look at,because well, I don't know too much

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about Twitch. So I take itback about the Whisper thing, that's fine.
Continue And here's here's the other thing. And I've thought about this too,
so I heard like, I don'tI don't necessarily put up any real
fault at Twitch for like keeping itunder wraps, because anytime that there that
you're putting that a so and sodid like this to a minor lunching like

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in the Into the Into the Intothe Zeitgeist, people are like like putting
out like a minor, like issueswith a minor for the minor's sake can
be a little leery unless like theywere their guardian, Like okay, that
that is kind of from the secondpoint. The main is just really quickly

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just to comment on that. That'swhy I don't place any blame on Twitch
either. I understand their position becauseI mean tier one Twitch, dot tv,
slash Amazon hater, but I putcredible credits due they ain't at fault
this time. The only person atfaults doctor disrespect for playing stupid and saying

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in like like like saying like fouryears four years and here's the thing,
right, here's my thing and hereand this is to everybody who's like in
the with the controversy talking about ohhe did X, Y and Z like
he like like like how old wereshe? Like like who was like like
like asking all of these players byquestions and for like in trying to like

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play do damn all that ship AndI'm like, he, a married man
with children was coordinating with an underageperson to meet at TwitchCon. It should
be cut simple dry as that exactly. Now, this minor like like this,

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there's obviously flirting and shit going on, like obviously it would not admitted.
That's the part that I'm also gettingfucking mad at. This is just
the aspect that didn't get to commenton. It's also I'm so genuinely,
uh so aggravated at the fact thatthese people who had the balls to actually
come out and say what the fuckwas going on are now getting backlash and

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are now being caught out for noreason because people are supporting a possible pedophile
or whatever it is. And I'mlike, is the brain rot of online
persona so genuinely infected in the mindsof want I gotta make the argument this
is young people, or at leastpeople under the age of thirty, who

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are doing this shit. So Idon't know what the fuck to do because
I'm like, God forbid anybody whocomes out on the internet ends up being
a pedophile or whatever the case,child abuser or whatever you want to say.
How do we find out, Becauseif they are in a situation where
they are extremely so happy, nocompany nor media presence is going to do

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the due diligence of getting this informationout to the public until finally the person
admits to their wrongdo Yeah, andthat's our gross implication because if Diddy,
here's the thing that I don't thinkpeople genuinely understand. If Diddy did the

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ship that he did, but thenwas also a YouTube streamer or a twitch
streamer, the amount of backlash thatthese victims would be going through same thing
with somebody like R Kelly, fuckingBill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, whatever you
want to say, God forbid,they aren't they become twitch streamers, we
have to deal with, you know, people defending them. Now, what
the fuck are we talking about?It's crazy. So here here's the difference,

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right, Why it's it's like whyR Kelly got off back in three
like in the early two thousands versusgot nailed to the wall in like twenty
in the twenty twenties. Has moreto do. It has more to do

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with like the brand recognition than anythingelse. Who You're right, who was
R Kelly back in like the earlytwo thousands. The motherfucker that wrote I
Believe I Can Fly. This wasthis man was like seventy close. This
man was like seventy five percent ofall like listenable R and B and the

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fucking nineties, you know. Soso this man was got. This was
a god. You know who wasDiddy back in the nineties and two thousands.
He was on He was on beingsponsors Ship, he was on everybody
shit. He was a producer.He was being referenced in every song he
had. He was everywhere what waswas going on In twenty twenty, R

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Kelly ain't seen been seen high orlow from in years. Really. The
song says, I did it.Since Diddy comes out Diddy, what's the
Diddy up to he owns? Ithink complex? Maybe he's I think he's
not even had a slash his sharesat that. He's not doing the shows,

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he's not putting out albums, he'snot doing anything. He's not connected
with his bride. He's just beinga mogul. But what I'm saying is
I'm almost more thinking that I've done. I know, I know I'm rambling,
and ultimately, you know it's youknow when you when you are not

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a huge person like like at theforefront, and that people are aware of
or people are more importantly, peopleare fans of and are continual fans of
and constantly interacting with. There's areason why Harvey Weinstein got nailed because all
the people that accused him people likedmore and knew more of than him.
This is the reason why twitch inYouTuber or twitch streamers YouTubers like has such

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fervent defenders. It's because they arebecause of the way the algorithms, in
the way of the nature of housestream quorks is you have to constantly,
constantly, constantly putting yourself out thereand there's never anything any downtime that has
happened, like you know, likeyou lose some time is money. So
yeah, you know, worst fuckingyou know, Diddy is not gonna like

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are not gonna fight Diddy on that, except for like right wing mano sphere
bull shit, you know try andlike just like spoke tap on the fuckers
white man is trying to get putthe black man down that type of shit.
You know, it's which is theonly people I've seen Defendic Didty at
this point, so you know,it's it's it's I don't know, man,
If I I think, what I'msaying is, if I had a

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platform, especially through YouTube, boardTwitch, I would definitely not open season
meaning physically, but open season andcommon sections if they see motherfucker supporting this
nigga, Yo, demolish this kid. Please do yourself a favor, help
us. That's all I'm trying tosay, because it only because I think

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what the outcome I'm trying to avoidis anytime that this happens with a YouTube
streamer or tweet twitch streamer. Ijust don't want it to be brushed under
the rug because of the backlash thatthey're facing. By the way you do.
Actually, on an unrelated note,but related, you do have a
platform. It's called at Noda toBrian on YouTube. Do you think I

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don't know? And I got somepodcasts and god damn stockpile that I'm not
releasing until I have like four orfive because I could already tell this is
inconsistent as a mug. That's bothof us. Honestly, if I'm well,
My thing is is that ultimately,like if we don't put out a
podcast, I still got content comingdown my gun bomb through the type you

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know not really that. Normally forme, Mondays are when these come out
on the channel, and you know, I had other content go out on
Monday normally whatever. But yeah,I'm I'm waiting for you to get that
set up and sorted so you soI can start to sweak and I can
see you start doing some short contentand growing your band. Youard following,

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definitely get on that. As youknow, my life was turned upside down
last week, so it is.We will talk about that off like possibly
later on. But anyways, whatelse has been going on? Uh?
Yeah, the president was made tothe tonight. I shadowed the Yeah,

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shadow the ear trees in my entirefucking life. Yeah, I has it.
That's all I've been doing. Iheard that. Man, I've been
working and ship stuff's been going well. So I'm thankful for that good night
shift kicking your ass. N I'ma night person, so h just geared

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to what I'm used to, youknow. Yeah, anyways, do you
know how so just to talk aboutElder break it's going to talk about Elder
Otherwise you're gonna be the person bringingship up and all that because I'm I'm
just total he is on the FILSyou know how like I love the progression

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in this DLC, like the addingthe Scoo tree fragments. That's why I
call them skim any tree because likeit's just like scud do like scud you
tree come on like like that.I don't know if something was lost of
translation like whatever, but okay,that's it. I'm trying to trying to

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bring things up that have happened overthe course of the week. I also
don't like that we got two weeks. We got too, we got two
weeks remember, because yeah, bythe way, all like the reason why
Brian is sort of being is doingis like doing some like minor like background
producing here is because I literally wasplaying shadow the Beargrey until like thirty seconds

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before we hit the report. Butlike I, I am my best,
I am a disaster, I amuncorrigible, Like I yeah, I am.
I Well keep talking, keep talking, alder ring until I figured something
out because I got you. Butit's just taking some time because all I'll

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talk about is Buda if that's ifthat's what people want to do. But
I don't want this to be ayou're so excited for that, oh,
but I don't want this to bean hour torture of both of us just
talking about our current gaming obsessions.Yeah, it's it's just it's one of
those things where it's like, oh, we're just gonna be autistically info dumping
for like an hour and a half. Also, what the hell is wrong

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with my fucking roommate? Does shenot understand what the fuck it means to
shut a goddamn door? Look atthis? Why is that open? Oh
no, the conditioning? My ACis on. Why And I'm putting it
in the group chat. I'll beright back. I gotta go close this
door up. Yeah, that's uh, that's one of think Oh god,

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yeah, I just saw I justpeep something Brian's going on this whole on
so uh Brian, Brian, Ican I hear you what? Eddie Murphy
reveals huge progress in multiple Shrek movies. Uh oh uh excuse me, God
damn came out of nowhere. Uhyeah, I think missed me on this

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gonna be so honest, I completelyagree. I think I think one classic
two better than the first three.Honestly, I think it was really fucking
solid. It would have been agreat place to end the fucking series.
No, yeah, without a doubtfour was the four come out yet or

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is that the one that they werewaiting for. Four was Timey Wind me
time travel? Bullshit. Yeah,it should have just stayed with three.
It was really good with the triplets. It was a nice send off,
like, hey, everybody as they'rehappy ever after, Like just just rate,
like just regulate it to like Disneyshorts and ship. But I have
the ac on fuck up. I'lltell her that, you know. Yeah,

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but regardless, yeah, oh somethingsomething I could actually bring up a
fucking value, So you and meare not just scraping the bottom of the
barrel. The Boy not the Boys. The Bear came out this week,
gotta be honest. Wait, thenew season came out. Don't tell me
shit, be it being Meadow needto watch it. But this is what

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I'm gonna do. I'm gonna spoilthe first fucking episode because it's not anything.
The first episode is a motherfucking montage. And if there's one thing good
about the Bear, it's their dialogueand the increased feeling of anxiety everything happening
at once, especially in the kitchenscenes. That's what you watch the fucking
show for when you have such astrong dialogue team a year after the fucking

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strike of all writers and actors.You don't take forty minutes to show everybody
what New York looks like in afucking convoluted, nonlinear time montage. That's
the only way I could say it, because I'm seeing articles now about how
people are in love with this fuckingepisode, and for forty minutes, I

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was screaming at the fucking screen becauseI didn't want to listen to the same
goddamn song over and over again.Second episode is very good. They come
right back to where they're supposed tobe and it's perfect, perfectly executed.
So I'm not saying don't watch it. Maybe just skip the first episode because
there's not even a fucking line ofdialogue that lends any information that is valuable.
Everything that is discussed in the firstepisode of the season has been discussed

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since the first episode of the firstseason. Skip it if you can,
that's all I will. I'm probablygonna watch it just because it's probably gonna
do one of those artsy fartsy thingsfor me, like mark it back to
it did and it all makes sensewhy all that ship's happening. Only it
was so I'm gonna watch it justfor safety's sake, I hope so,

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because uh, I was really upsetabout that first episode because again, I
love the uh I love the essenceof what the bear is. It's my
family personified in a fucking show,and I love it. And that goddamn
dinner scene is just me and mygrandparents. What I was watching when me

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and Metal watched that episode together,I said, this reminds me of Brian's
family. We're just we're sitting inChicago. I heard Chicago at a Chicago
apartment at the time, watching it, and I'm like, this is like,
this reminds me of Bryan's family.She's like, how so because this
was before Christmas? Mind you?Like okay, like when like I like

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had had Metal on the phone withme and like she heard the fucking fighting
in the background at your house andshe she's like, uh yeah, because
I mean, also, you gotJamie Lee Curtis, you got what's his
name, better call Saul fuck BobOdenkirk as like the matriarch and the patriarch.

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Then you got fucking John mulaney andJohn Berthall, and like how could
you not love that scene that sceneis so perfect and encapsulates dysfunctional loud families
perfectly. That's why I love thisshow as much as I do. Yeah,
so well, yeah, that's butvery good. So far. Have

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only seen the first two episodes,so I don't even have spoilers really to
give you, but I wouldn't gointo it anyway. I want people to
watch it. Very great show.Speaking of shows, let me just say
this week in fucking history, weeat in Good Boy, we eat in
good We got the Boys, wegot the Bear, we got My Hero,

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we got Kayju number eight finale,and the Demon Slayer finale this week.
I mean, I'm hype. Thisis a great You being a TV
watcher, he must be oh eatingcould Baby eat? And could? And
I know you're not a big fanof him, but I just found this
really funny. I think the interviewis on YouTube somewhere. Do you know
who Jimminy Glick is. It's MartinShort. It's Martin Short in like a

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fat body suit. He does reallyfunny interviews. He roast the fuck out
of his guests. Bill Maher becausehe released his book had Jimminy Glick on
his show and for ten or fifteenminutes straight. He's just being roasted and
it's the greatest thing ever. Ithink it's the only thing I will ever
suggest to you to watch from theBill Maher Show if you want to,
because he gets no mistake. It'slike with when Andrew Schultz went on there

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and like, like I heard aboutthis. I have never seen the clip,
but it's like when Andrew Schultz wenton and had to explain to uh
Bill Maher how to make an edgyjoke like and not be racist. Yeah,
and I mean he just said CharlotteMaine the god on and Charla Maine
was like, yo, for real, you're doing more bad than good every

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time you say that college students aresupporting from us, Like you're an idiot
for saying that. It's a totalmischaracterization. So it's crazy. I definitely
agree with you. Who the fuckis Bill Maher's audience at this point?
It has to be moderates who aregung ho about Israel, who are what's
it called fucking in love with Republicansocial issues, because genuinely, outside of

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that, I don't know who theshow is for. I mean, don't
get me wrong, it's not forit used to beak for liberals. You
used topek for like liberal people.I know, me and my grandmother back
in the early two thousands, Iused to stay up to three in the
fucking morning watching that shit on HBO. Trust me, I know that shit
used to be for real fucking liberals. And then I don't know if it
was Trump. I don't know ifit was during the Obama era, but

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something fucking changed with the man andhe's but surely started going right, but
also not right, because now rightis the Trump brain rot and even he's
against that, and I'm like,then, who were you for? No,
So here's the thing, like,let's uh like, let me fucking
you know, be an extra allright, so let's let's let's up pull

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something up just so I can explainwhere Bill Maher is. He is right
wing. He is a right winger, so let me so let me explain
how like there there's like, let'slook at this, all right, So
here's the line, right, thisis the line here and thing this these

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is your uh this this is yourright wing. This is this is the
far right, this is the farleft. The words for these are reactionary
and revolutionary. Get revolutionary. Peoplewant to take a system. And this
is just a point in police,I want to want to bear with me

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if there's more from the viewers thanfor you. It is revolutionary people want
to completely uh dismantle and rebuild asystem from the grand u ground up.
They are it is revolutionary action.It is like like tig that that is
what that that is. Those arerevolutionaries. Reactionaries are people who want to

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either who are so steadfast in inconserving and maintaining the status quot or regressing
to a prior idea that of whatthey think the past was when it was
better, will do. We'll dothe same violent, violent and oppressive actions

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as revolutionary as well. But insteadof dismantling the system, it will be
to either keep it exactly it willbe it'll be it's usually to regress it
backwards. So revolutionary it's about dismantlingthe current system to move forward. Reactionaries
is about dismantling the current system tobackward. That is why generally revolutionary action

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has looked upon favorably. Revolutionary actionsto people like the friend, the French
Revolution, the American Revolution, youknow, the air of spring, things
of that nature. That is allrevolution action. That is generally looked at
as good. There is a thatold form of government or status quo that

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is not good for people. Theywant to break it down and try something.
That's why it's looked fondly. Thestring Reactionaries are people that want to
either conserve, amend, or repressthe current status quo. These are your
These are like your authority, Theseare your heavily of these are like Authoritarianism
can exist in both the authority.Arianism cannot exist in truly revolutionary action at

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a certain at certain points due tothe fact that being on the left side
of the spectrum in the point,the further left you get, the more
you prioritize freedom, well being ofcommunity collectivism that thinks of that nature.
So that doesn't really lend well toauthoritarianism. So that's why when you have
places in USSR, A, dBmK, North Korea or any other self

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described communist country or whatever, they'reusually when when if we remove the fact
that they call these to communists,they're functionally just authoritarian dictatorships. That's why
that's why some people might say thatthere has never been a real communist thing,
because most of folk don't exist likememory existed and hit the way,
like the book's saying. So that'sthe far right, that's the far left.

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You're far right. Are your peoplelike are you? Are you like
your American revolutionaries, your French revolutionaries. The reactionaries are people like the Nazis
uh and your camp or your campuslike your people who are like who are
like authoritarian like authoritaried aspirations, butthey cloak it in a veneer of like

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left that then you have here's thecenter. These are your moderates. These
are these are the people, theseare these are you know, people like
you know, can pick aside.These people do not exist, they say
they do, they actually don't.Here you have your uh you here you

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have your liberals. Here you haveyour conservatives. Your liberals are the people
who like liberals and conservatives have morein common than liberal. A liberal has
more in common with a conservative thanthey do a radical. Radical radicals are
your progressives. These are you knowit to put it in America's context,

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these are people who want you know, universal health care, hire, minimum
wage, strong unions, things ofthat nature. These are where these are
like like these are like things likedecommodifies housing, things that are objectively good
things for people broadly, in communitybroadly, but it is bad for the

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status flock. I think I haveevery right to say this. I didn't
consent to a full poly SI coursebased off of Bill Maher. Is that
is that reasonable yet? Yes?But I don't respect consent for the next
ten minutes. So you're stung withthe ship. Uh versus concern versus conservatives

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versus conservatives who don't who have butthis is but versus conservatives who in theory
shouldn't have much in common with ultraconservatives. So give me, give me
five minutes of almost stuff. Thepoint, the point I'm making is is
that, Uh, in America,most people are here. Most people by

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and large are about from here tohere. Your liberals are people who support
social social justice and like they nominallyare for like more like stronger like money
being used for people, so workfor programs of that nature. By and

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large, for a lot of America'shistory, the most of America was here.
Do you have these this like this? Most democrats are, you know,
especially on economic issues, are here. You know this shifts a little
bit more probably to like here whenyou start talking about things of proportion,

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get your right, people be consideredhuman beings ship like that, like you
know, more like like, especiallyin today's day and age, people are
more receptive to you know, nottreating gay people like degenerate, like like
sexual degenerates. So what what whydo I uh point that out? Because

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Bill Maher nominally even when he wason the air back then, he was
here in this location here, thisis where the lions share of people who
identify as Democrats, centrist Democrats likenormal most like normal Democrats and have money.

(34:45):
Most people who have money, andour Democrats are here. They don't
hate black people, they just don'twant them around, and they don't want
they don't want black people to betreated like shit, but they just don't
want them in their areas. Andthey also don't want to change to have
higher ti axes to pay for socialprograms for the poors. But very quickly,
also, let's qualify that point.During the early two thousands, that

(35:07):
point is support of the Afghan andIraq war. That point is against gay
marriage currently. In terms of thathistory and what's it God, it was
also a time in which Democrats werepretty more conservative about social programs than they

(35:27):
are now. That's because in thatin particular, it is because of Bill
Clinton. Bill Clinton, So BillClinton built like Democrats for well since since
FDR were like here, That's whyyou saw the meat packing industry getting better,
a lot of social program social security. It was corporate tax which made

(35:52):
it so companies would invest in pensionsfor wages and all that shit, R
and D. The tax policy thatAddar instituted led to the longest lark to
the to the most prosperous continuous periodeconomic period in American history. And once
and and that was only stopped andthat was only and that was only stopped

(36:15):
in large part due to opek andand the gas shortages that played the martyr
administration. So because of Bill Clinton, God is here and this is where
both like this, this is whereyou get your canca pelosis, your smug
I know better than you because I'mI'm I'm I don't I think people or

(36:37):
humans and gave evil deserve rights butalso your but just don't be poor like
that type of those types of you. And the thing is is that everything
I'm talking about here is the isthe typical political understanding of things or this

(37:01):
is like the the American polite Ifyou want to hear something fucking wild,
Brian, take a look at thism you're gonna if you want, if
you if you consider what international likethe political compasses America, all of these
points get shipped to the right.We have no revolutionaries. These don't exist

(37:23):
in America. Yeah, last some, but they're not like a constituency that's
cared about in reality in America,these people are are are listened to heavily
because everything shifts this way. Thesepeople don't get heard. Ever, these

(37:46):
people are heard less than they wouldhave been otherwise that these would have been
your normal like in like places likeGermany. These people here, like the
radicals would have been considered like you'refar left, you're far left. Basically
you're like you're super fun. You'relike, you're like your normal left.
Basically the liberals are are are theliberals here are basically you know, if

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wanting universal like wanting uh, youknow, higher wages, you know,
social protections for minorities and ship thesepeople are uh, these people are your
normal considered your normal left. Thesepeople are your fringe. These people are
your left. So the people thatwant universal health care and decommodified housing and

(38:34):
stuffing like that, things that arepoints of view that are very well represented
in other countries are considered the fringe. M hm, the liberal people.
These are your left. Your moderatesbecome your liberals, and your conservatives become
your moderates. So there's a reasonwhy whenever somebody says they're moderate and identifies

(38:59):
a moderate, I hear you're conservative, unless you will get into detail about
what you actually fucking believe, you'rejust a conservative, because that is what
you You just end up doing exactlywhat Republicans, uh, what's it?

(39:20):
Accuse? I'm sorry, you justend up doing exactly what democrats, accused
Republicans are doing, though, becauseI'm like, you gotta you got to
understand that anybody affiliated with a partyand inside of that party, inside of
that group, is probably just goingto uh what's it called, strengthen the

(39:40):
arguments of other people in that group. I believe strongly in the individual and
having individual conversation, you know,I do, and I strongly believe that
moderate, being a moderate is athing in this country, especially nowadays.
I'm not political political or you leanno, no, I know, And

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what I'm saying is, I thinkas we continue to keep going both ways,
as the party themselves continue to goboth ways politically. We are constantly
being pulled both directions, and weare constantly asking ourselves, are we a
good example of this? Or wea good example of that? And I'm
saying, I genuinely don't believe inthis, Uh, not the political idealism

(40:30):
you're talking about, but the politicalidealism of political parties and staying affiliated with
him and then broad stroking another sideof it, especially when people are claiming
that they are themselves are not apart of that side. You got what
I'm saying. So I want tobe very I geel you're saying, and
I want to be very clear whatI say. And I'm not talking about

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moderates that there's that as a asa good Let's be very clear when like
so the idea of like being pulledto both sides are extreme. Let's remember
what I just said of ad thatportal comments. What are the people on
the left asking, like the peoplethat are considered remember the revolutionary people,

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the ones that want to like overthrowevery They're not even considered. They don't
exist at that. No, we'retalking about the people that want a universal
healthcare or at the very least apublic option A the government having a much
higher percentage of control over the housingmarket, like maybe getting housing and nerve

(41:37):
and development into landlording and making itso you know, if you need a
house you can just go make anapplication and get it there, rather than
the convoluted system that we currently hadof paying landlords whatever the fuck they ask
for to use that have their housing. For section eight, you have people
that want a strong labor rights,strong labor movement and organized labor. You

(41:59):
have people like this, these arethings that osensibly remember that what the what
the radical section of the wants isuh a H is not dismantling of the
system, but changing it enough tomake things better for the for the collective,

(42:22):
for for the community, for everyonethat like. These are not things
that are you know, that's thatare not there. These are not end
goals that are harmful and lead peopleto be in worse places than they otherwise
would have been. Like, itmeans more people are fed, more people
are healthy volners. What is theright way? What is the right way?

(42:43):
More people in this country have contradictingviews when you go from political issue
to political issue, and then theyare fully republican or fully democrat or fully
liberal. I know that's not That'snot what I'm That's not what I'm saying
here A damn So I'm banning theword democrat republican from this. No,

(43:04):
I just I just changed it fromliberal to conservative. That's what I just
said. People can have a mixof liberal and conservative ideas, and that
is in itself inherently modernism. Absolutely. But the thing is, here's the
thing. Ultimately, I have acombination of why you But the question is

(43:30):
what comes it down to is towhere you lean? Is how important is
one political issue over another to you? And who which which would like?
Are you would voting for a Democratbe more likely to get that in like
a Democratic Party member get like liketo do that, or voting for a

(43:54):
Republican party member be more likely atthat? So like, yes, you're
right, that is that it islike true that people have left right view
That doesn't mean they're moderate. Itcan mean like if they have if they
have equally an equal amount of rightwing and left wing views. Most people

(44:16):
will have some views, some someissues will be far more important than others.
And how in the things that inthe way that they lean are the
way to they vote. There arethe amount of politician of people who voted
for the Republican Party to overturn Roev. Wade. Even though a lot

(44:37):
of these people live or have togo to the co op for farming,
they are new members, all votedthe people for that because it was the
Supreme Court. Nobody votes to putpeople on the Supreme Court, aside from
Congress Brock Bryan obviously, but theythis has been like I'm going to overturn

(44:58):
Roe v. Wade has been andhas been the drum that has been beat
by the Republican Party for years toget right to get evangelicals and religious people
on their side. There's the singleissue voters. But time out how many
polls are done that even show thatconservatives themselves don't even want full no abortion

(45:27):
for women, even among I'm saying, even among personally identified conservatives, abortion
is a what's it called tricky issuebecause nobody it seems to be an issue
that Republicans could lose over in November. What I'm saying, if they do
lose, that'll be a huge chunkof wine. And what I'm saying is

(45:49):
the thirty percent of people in thiscountry who right now today on June twenty
seventh, a day of the firstdebate, are still up in the air
about voting Democrat or Republican in anyelection happening this November, because it's not
only about the president. It's aboutlocal fucking politics and state level politics as
well. The thing that I'm sayingis that thirty percent has to at least

(46:15):
be somewhat considered somewhat to be moderate, because if they're looking at both parties
and they're looking at their own idealsand they're saying, ah, thirty percent
of the country is saying, Idon't really know who I'm going back this
time. And I get it.You can everybody can make tons of arguments
for whichever side is better, andobviously I agree that Biden is the better

(46:37):
of two evils out of those twoidiots. But genuinely, the feeling of
we should not be in this positionitself should be a litmus test for moderism
in this country, because I'm willingto bet like ninety percent of the fucking
people who are even willing to votefor Biden and Trump both are feeling that
way. I would love to haveyou take a test, like an actual

(47:00):
one. I have told you,and I told you a million times and
guess where I land every single time. And I know you won't believe me.
But it's dead in the middle,is it? Was it one of
those things where you at where italso asked you how strongly you believe those
things? Yeah, like strongly agree, strongly disagree, agree, agree,

(47:24):
disagree, somewhat disagree, somewhat agree, yes, and like it baffles people.
But I genuinely do believe in someRepublican esque ideas, more so in
uh economy way more than socially.I don't really agree with any social Republican
ideas. Then socially, I'm verydemocratic, and I believe very strongly in

(47:46):
being able to do whatever the fuckyou want to do. People, I'm
curious, now, what are theseRepublican economic ideals that your at a certain
point there should be what's it going? You know, there shouldn't be an
uh what do they call it?Despit That's not the right word. No,

(48:08):
no, no, in terms ofeconomic ideas, not how I think
it should be. Ran. Idefinitely agree with some embargos. I mean
genuinely, we're never going to beable to compete with China with the way
that they deal with electric cars intheir country versus ours. So genuinely,
that's the only way to compete.That's what I'm That's what I'm talking about

(48:29):
in terms of conservative economic ideas.Not really, Well, here's the thing
that, like, you must havebeen asked a lot of different economic questions,
So I give me another because youknow, if if that local compass
task had me surely as a moderat all, I like, let play

(48:49):
it all out that ass well,I thought we were going to do politics
for this hour because we were focusingon the debate. But no problem.
I also strongly, I strongly believeNow, obviously I disagree with the practice
of it, but I strongly believein this is an economy. So let's
just take that out for a secondRepublican idea, right, I strongly believe

(49:10):
in the death penalty for people whodo heinous as fuck crimes. Now,
obviously there are examples where people whoare innocent get put to the chair or
the electric or whatever or gas chamber. I definitely am not letting any discredit
to that. The way that wedo it, keeping them alive for twenty
thirty plus years, wasting our taxmoney on it makes no sense to me,

(49:31):
I won't disagree with that point atall. I am saying in a
perfect world, in my fucked uphead, I think death penalty for people who
have committed horrible, heinous physical actsof crime should be put to death.
Agreed, But by the only reasonI say we should outlaw in this countories
because I have no fucking faith inthe justice system. This is my same

(49:52):
argument against communism. Inherently, humanbeings cannot handle that responsibility. Human beings
are not trustworthy. Therefore, Idon't believe that anybody should say to anybody
else that you are put to deathunless they have concrete evidence. But then
staying alive for twenty thirty years isinsane. Same thing with believing that a

(50:12):
human being at the top of anyeconomic system would then say, hey,
you know what, those people alsodeserve equal, if not more. I
genuinely don't believe that's a thing thathuman beings have the capacity to be another
economic thing, another economic thing interms of well, in terms of new
industry. I definitely believe that thereshould be you know what we saw with

(50:36):
Tesla in the beginning, and weshould have way more what's it, God,
we should give way more grants andshit like that to burgeoning businesses.
And I know you're going to say, agree, He's not really, that's
not really a political basis, politicalideology based. But I would make the
argument that that is way more republicanESK than it is democratic. Ask because

(50:59):
I mean, like, remember,it's so we're also talking about original conservatism.
So yes, well, uh sonot this bubble fuck conservativeness that we
have going on in the country andthe rest of the world, because the
world is also being conserved by conservativemovements. Yeah, so let me ask

(51:19):
a question. Yeah, because Iknow a lot. I know this,
So I want to say, whatif the is nine corporate tax rate be
good or a bad them within theAmerican within the way the American tax is
currently struct. I believe genuinely ifanybody tried putting for a Democrat, Republican

(51:42):
independent, who the fuck ever,if anybody tried to put up a ninety
percent uh tax rate, nobody wouldsupport it. Nobody would support it.
First and foremost, No, I'mnot I'm not asking whether or not people
would support it a bad great ideabecause that we would not see the disparaging
amounts of money from CEO and uppermanagement profits compared to lower No. No,

(52:07):
here's the thing you misunderstand. Peoplemisunderstand not you, but people in
general. When you have a corporatetax rate that's ninety percent, the only
people that, in theory could geteven paid that the only people that will
get paid You don't have to changea single thing. That is be the

(52:28):
salary of like thinking, put thesalary of all of the people in the
C suite. The only people whoget paid less with a ninety percent tax
rate is the shareholder class. Andthen you might say, but Evan,
what about four oh one ks.When you have a ninety percent tax rate,

(52:49):
you get pensions again, pensions beingpart of the three of the three
legged stool of retirement that that thatis social security for one cas. Let
me ask this question, would thisbe a conservative idea? If the government,
as a nameless entity, goes toall profitable companies let's say making over

(53:12):
like a billion dollars in profit everyyear, and says, hey, we
are proposing a ninety percent tax cutto every profitable business over a billion dollars
yearly in profit revenue, whatever thecase may be. However, you say
that, but if you take thatbillion dollars and reinvest it not into the
company but into the pockets of youremployees. Hey, you ain't got to

(53:38):
worry about taxes, or we'll doWe'll go back to the original tax plan
that we always had. That iswhat That's what I'm saying when I say
conservative economic policy, because sometimes itshouldn't be a simple as that would be
a liberal policy economic policy. Andwhy do I say it's a liberal economic

(54:01):
because you can make an argument foreither one. No, no, no,
no, I'm doubling down on this, like it couldn't that I would
double down and sayervative movie, it'snot. Let me explain why. The
reason why it's not is because conservativeeconomics want as little taxed as possible.

(54:22):
Yes, and you would receive aslittle tax as possible if following this specific
thing, and specifically they would,they wouldn't conservative the end. The way
conservative economic principle works is they don'tactually care about wages. They care about

(54:44):
making it. So maybe they wouldthe conservative economic policy would be if they
wanted to give wages as they wouldwant to cut taxes further and give government
money to companies. Whenever, ifthey were say they're going to what Amazon
did, right to make the secondheadquarters. The reason I say no inherently
put on puss. Inherently no,because the only reason why Republicans rely so

(55:09):
much on this idea of pulling yourselfby the bootstraps is because they still believe
in a day and age that doesn'texist anymore, or where your wages where
you're no, no, no,it did at a certain point where your
wages cover everything in terms of yourlife. Yeah. That that that that

(55:30):
that that time period was like thenineteen fifties and sixties, which also had
when you had the ninety percent taxring that was even seventies and eighties for
everybody but a minority America. Sothat's what I'm saying. That's why,
Well, the thing is, that'swhy I think the idealization of things it's

(55:51):
ultimately the product of left like leftwing economic policy. You don't I see
what you're saying, but get toget you don't get that part of a
part of conservative a part of theconservative movement is believing in the fact that
there are wages that are supporting peoplethrough whatever, paying for the house,

(56:15):
paying for the food, whatever thekicks. Obviously, me and you both
agree that without democratic social programs thatthat ship would not exist. This is
why I say that without a doubt, without the you know, other hand
washing the other hand, that nothingwould actually get done in this country.
That's why I'm not saying I amone hundred Republican. That's why I'm not

(56:37):
saying I believe wholeheartedly and conservatism.I'm just saying I'm the moderate because i
know obviously sparking all what you said, like would that be a conservative?
Like it's not in the reasonable inwhich I never got to explain me because
was the reason why I said it'sa liberal thing is because what liberal will
do is the thing you should dois, yes, have a high tax

(57:02):
rate on corporations. That's what youshould do. That is the solution to
a lot of the fun that wouldmake it. That would mean that would
make businesses grow because it would beforced to spend more of their their earnings
back into the business. That wouldmake ten tensions come back, so retiring
retirement becomes feasible again. Would alsomake it so you know, we just

(57:23):
were higher, so people have ahigher poality of living than busy economy.
It's a bottom up whenever, likethere's a reason like pandemic when you send
out all those checks, if savedthe fucking economy, because when you support
the economy from the bottom up,not the top down, you know you
get economic growth. YadA, YadA, YadA. And the reason why say

(57:43):
it's a lite. Yeah, butit's conservative, and it's conservative inherently because
it's dealing with the profits of acompany it's not and it's dealing with tax
hikes versus tax kind is a liberalposition. When I say liberal, I'm
talking about right to Stop when youhere liberal, stop thinking like fucking like
like like like aoc all that boldlike stop it. I'm talking. When

(58:06):
I say liberal, I'm talking aboutright of radical. The radical position is
this is what will make things better. The liberal position here is we understood,
we want these companies to do itof their own volition because we don't
want to take the full step thatis the Well, then we could sit
here, hold on, Then wecould sit here and argue about every single

(58:30):
right or left policy. Hold on, wait, yeah, don't say anything
policy in America and how it comparesto the grander scale of uh political ideology
and that whole thing where if it'son the line there but nobody is doing
that because genuinely liberalism, original liberalismand original conservatism. Let's not even talk

(58:55):
about the two extremes on both endsare really existed, let alone, not
only in this country but in theworld. Everything now is new age of
politics. There is not a countryin this world that runs off of old
age political ideology, which is alsoaldology. I mean, political ideologies are
always changing, so like the ideaof holding on to like old like.

(59:20):
This is one of my biggest criticismsof some aspects of the left is they
will always like, they'll quote peoplelike arts and angles and ship like like
like the go and all that moment, like fucking gospel like. I don't
care. I don't give a shitabout the political ideologies of the past.
All I know is that if wewant to fix our economy and make it
less shit, you you have youtax you tax companies at a fog off

(59:45):
about at the expense of at theexpense of the like shareholder class, which
are already like which is already theone one percent of one percent. Anyways,
because one percent of Americans of seventypercent of all stock for stocks in
existence, you you you make moretax brackets passed three hundred and thirty six

(01:00:05):
thousand dollars, and I definitely agreewith that. I'd say, and then
you just do a flat tax oflike ten to fifteen percent for anybody earning
more than I don't know, twomillion dollars a year, then you just
you you you use the tech,you use taxation as a way to prevent

(01:00:25):
people, individuals or small groups ofindividuals for you, of pulling their money
or using their money to have tocause political change that affects the country negatively.
Well, I also want to say, the discrepancy between what's allowed for

(01:00:46):
the right and what's allowed for theleft is continuously insane to me. Yeah,
I don't right is able to dothem like the right is able to
do like wild pain as shit thateven if if a left wing person even
a fraction of what they do likeit would be like around the clock.
Since it's insane double standard. I'mjust I'm just genuinely scared about the prospect

(01:01:12):
in the future of not having asecond party to really pull the Democrats back,
because I'm not saying now now they'reokay, you know, nothing monumental
was going on on the Democratic side. It's definitely all on Republicanism. I'm
not saying that it's not I'm justsaying that conservative ideals do have some good
points when you stay away from societyand social issues. Right, Yeah,

(01:01:37):
you can't be honest with you,bro Ah, there's not like. What
would end up happening is is thatone of two things would happen. One
uh, the left the center theleft wing elements would would come out into
their own party and you would havea new conservative leading party, which would

(01:01:59):
have been the original thing, likewith centrist moderate Democrats. Or what ends
up at What was more likely tohappen is the primary becomes the general.
But I think you're wrong because howthe Democratic Party structures their primaries that that.

(01:02:19):
But also also you and me bothsaw this happen in twenty sixteen.
To Bernie, I do not agreewith what you're saying. I think genuinely,
if there is anybody to ever stirthe pot, it's only going to
be through the Republican Party, andthat sucks because you can't stir the pot.
What I mean is to have aBernie Sanders s character. What I

(01:02:39):
mean is to have like a holdon have a trump asque character, who
bear with me not his ideas,not his rhetoric, not his feelings,
not his craziness, but his abilityto actually verbally say it, not actually
do it, but to shake shitup, to change the party around a
little bit. So everybody is inall drinking the kool aid. And I

(01:03:00):
think that's what's going on currently withthe Democrats. They're all drinking this fucking
kool aid. Like genuinely, youwant me to believe that every Democrat believes
Biden was the one and only truepick to beat fucking Trump. I get
that he's been the only Democrat todo it so far, but he's been
the only one with a real fuckingshot because the other one was hated by

(01:03:22):
everybody. So the one, HillaryClinton, So what are we talking about,
was raging bitch. She nobody likedher. She nobody liked her.
She she still opens her fucking mouthand like she like she ended it.
It's the worst thing for Democrats.It's the worst fucking thing ever. They
should throw her into a goddamn dungeonand never let her out. That's absolutely

(01:03:44):
agree. She's terrible. And here'sthe thing, And here I hear I
think is the big difference. Ithink, And here's ultimately why I guess,
Like, here's the thing, afirebrand coming out of the left and
out of the left would be verypopular and would succeed. Bernie would have
won if it wasn't for the natureof the Democratic parties process, without a

(01:04:05):
fucking doubt. But here's the thing. You also got to remember Nina again
twenty twenty. I'm sorry, God, Nina Turner. Nina Turner. I
don't know if you know who thatis, but she's a she's a well,
she's a justice Democrat type, she'sa she's progressive, and she's really

(01:04:26):
fucking smart, you really good,And she ran was running for Congress the
entirety so like the two people runningboth knew the person who see she was
going for had retired. Not onlydid oh I think I did, I

(01:04:51):
think, I think I think heropponent got damn near a billion dollars.
Yeah, and support trying been tryingto do it, like because not only
was the entirety of the Democratic Partydonating money to thea Turner's opponents and in
their primary both Democrats, by theway, but also her opponent also on

(01:05:13):
the like got got a obscene amountof money, like in the hundreds of
millions of dollars Publican Party. Thisis why I'm saying what I'm saying about.
This is why I've always said whatI said about Democrats. They don't
deserve the cheerleaders. No, theydon't. They don't. The biggest,
my biggest criticism of the Democrats isa said they view the left wing as

(01:05:39):
a bigger threat than the right wingbecause they know that the ideas are more
popular right now. They know thatthey I hope they changes. No,
it's it's not that they think theythink, they think that the Republicans like
they because remember how I said,like everything it shifted Themocrats are closer in

(01:06:01):
ideology the moderate Democrats are conservatives formost things. They are closer, I
know. And because they are conservatives, they are they are closer aligned with
the ultra conservatives in the Republican Partythan they are the radicals in the Democrat

(01:06:27):
Party. And that's exactly why Isay that I don't blindly support Democrats just
because Trump is a threat to democracy. I think he genuinely is. But
that doesn't mean that I'm going tosupport a either physically mentally or physically or
mentally weak man, and or aperson who I genuinely don't don't. I

(01:06:51):
genuinely don't think that he has thecapacity to run the country for four more
fucking years until he's eighty five.Well my thing, My thing is is
that like Biden is a couple ofyears younger the Trump. First of all,
other way okay, And secondly,like I, I'm like you,

(01:07:15):
I don't support the Democratic parties agung home But am I am? I?
Am I ever going to vote fora Republican again in my life?
No, not while while they arelike as like, not while they are
representing a conservative values. Never notthat. What about and so if you're

(01:07:36):
voting, if you moved to astate where there was a Republican on election
who was genuinely against Trump and youmove, I don't know why you would
do this. I don't think youever would. But you moved to a
red state, you knew it wasRepublican versus Republican, or Republican versus Democrat,
and the Democrat is talking mad.What's it? God? Uh?

(01:07:59):
You know, Republican asked ship abouttax taxes and whatever the fuck? You're
genuinely saying that if the Republican adbetter talking points that you were aware of
you wouldn't It doesn't matter the talkingpoints, it matters what if his policies.
And here's the thing, like ifthere's a democrat like like not in
the history and never in the past, dead game as a is a as

(01:08:21):
a democrat, and further right thenthe Republican in a general. Now,
here's the thing I'm just saying here, here's my thing, what I what
what I would like like like it'san it's an if that like hype in
the hypothetical. Sure, but mything is is that it's a hypothetical that's

(01:08:43):
not even worth gauging in necessarily becauseit's it's just it's it's never. But
are you not worried at some pointthat maybe we're going down the same track
that the older generations have and wesee them being idiots about it now,
But wouldn't it be fair to saythat at one point they had the same
perspective as you in this very moment. That's what the fun I'm trying to

(01:09:06):
say. I mean, I mean, like all of the baby boomers that
would have been you know, leftleftists now and right and left wings now,
like those people are either you know, either they were either killed they
were either killed back in the daythey or by either you know, political

(01:09:29):
like politics, or more realistically,by have by being poor, by being
poor and not like having like havinghealth issues. The people that like what
people thems that are around today arethe ones that had the the that that
were primed in in such a wayto have a lot of money and own

(01:09:54):
property and ship. The people thatwould like have my by political views,
they didn't fucking make it. Theygot showed up by the system. No,
you're not understanding what I'm saying.I'm saying your perspective on your political
view right now, and how youdon't think it will ever change, and
how you don't think you'll ever voterepublicating your life the only vote on go

(01:10:15):
for it perfectly, I'm saying.Don't you see any parallels between that and
the stinking thinking of older generations whocurrently are saying, I have only ever
voted Republican in my life. Ihave only ever voted Democrat in mine And
then I also just want to throwin this fucky wretch. What about all

(01:10:35):
the people that started off voting forObama two terms and then ended up with
Trump. That's what I'm saying.Well, the thing is that at the
end of the day, the peoplelike Trump, like in Obama, vote
played on very strong human emotions.Obama played on I feel like, I'm

(01:10:55):
hope for a better future, andhe didn't fucking deliver on that. And
so when Trump comes along a certainon people's economics, beers and that that
that's the breaks. And it saysa lot about Biden's position right now,
and his condition more so than hisposition because he was his he was Obama's

(01:11:19):
right hand man as that ship wasgoing. On the fact that he can't
choose I'm saying, the fact thathe truly cannot tug on the heartstrings of
people and make them passionate about thiselection is what is driving me up the
wall and why I'm searching for ananswer on why the Democrats have chosen this
man to do it, who startedoff a lot like FDR saying that he

(01:11:43):
was going to be a one termpresident. So and I hope we don't
get fucking Nancy Reagan. I'm nottrying to have Carmelo run ship from the
fucking shadows or Jill Stine or whoeverthe fuck it is, honest with you,
if Kambal, I think that Mark, I think that, you know

(01:12:05):
me, I'm objective, right,Like I look at this ship like through
like like like like a no bullshitkind of way. The Carbo stays on
as his running mate. I don'tunderstand that. I think that. I
think that. I think ultimately hedid break her on for the cloud points

(01:12:27):
for the cloud. He wanted wanteda black like black woman and all that
shit. Like fuck. The problemis is that Joe Biden's politics, like,
let's like, like if we breakit down to brass tacks, ignore
the fact that he's a billionaires alwho gives a shit. Ultimately, I
don't care that Biden is a billionaires. I care about his policy descriptions.

(01:12:47):
I care if he dies in theWhite House or not. I care genuinely
about that. Is that a fairthing to care about? Yeah, yeah,
that is a fair thing to careabout. That doesn't mean I'm voting
Trump. I'm just saying, like, but my thing is is that,
like, ultimately, if he dies, he dies, so be it.
I like, if I look athis policy, because Kamala Harrison's like,

(01:13:09):
let's look at this objective right,Biden, while in office has empowered the
national relations for all the Indian ship. I'm not gonna word that. You
already know I feel about it.He has he has forgiven a billion dollars
a student loan that so far,I think, but I think that was
thousand six months ago. He hasuh added a pathlete to citizenship and expanded

(01:13:35):
the options for citizenship for uh thespouses of you know, the spouses of
American citizens. So it's another thingemigration that's a hard one for Democrats this
fucking season. Yeah, but thething is is that like, oh fucking
uh, you know, like we'llwatch it here and after we've gotten this,

(01:13:57):
but you know, I would loveI can't wait to see, but
I can't wait to see Trump tryto like go after Biden on the border
because Biden just continued his policies anddouble tripled and quadrupled down on him.
He has been fit at the border. I'm not happy with it. But
my thing is that all of theeconomic stuff that he's done, then all
of the relief like for the lowerfor the lower class that he's done,

(01:14:21):
like economically kind of has me overlookinglike the immigration ship and don't tell anybody
kind of like like my thing isis that ultimately domestic issues are the things
that win elections. Biden, youknow, has done a lot of really
good ship for the middle lower andmiddle class, so I don't I And

(01:14:44):
also the polling that we have,the poll the polling methods that we're currently
using for political polling is notoriously badand has been showing time and time again
to not be representative whatsoever, Likewhat ends up happening. I remember win
fucking Trump one That fucking poll waslike He's never gonna win, not even
close, bah blah blah bah.Yeah. So like the polling, the

(01:15:06):
polling has, the polling has onaverage showing the pulling no matter who does
it has a Republican fact. Yeah, but I'm just so every so I
don't really quick every base that theDemocrats are usually relying on Hispanics, young
voters, college educated, how whateveryou want to say, even though yes,

(01:15:30):
I agree the polls are gravely mistaken, probably because it's voluntary, uh
you know, it requires a volunteer, and that automatically fucks up statistics in
any goddamn study you're doing. I'mjust saying, he seems to be continuously
unpopular to the people that he ispandering to, and I think he needs

(01:15:51):
to stop fucking pandering. I thinkhe needs to start bragging, because I
agree with you, he's done somany genuinely good things for this coin.
Still I don't know. Truthfully,I'm not excited about him as a candidate,
but yes, he's done. Heis the most left wing president in
our lifetime. But he's too fuckingfinicky. He's too he's perceived to be

(01:16:13):
too fragile, and he's not doublingdown when that's what people want to see
of him. He should be panderingto the people who are undecided, not
the people that are pretty much goingto vote for him or are gonna go
to Trump. But those are theoutliers of that that subgroup, right,
I'm saying, why is any goingafter the thirty percent of people who genuinely

(01:16:35):
are still confused even after Trump gotfucking what's it God accused of thirty four
felonies? Like? What are wediscussing here? What are we talking about?
And I hope tonight that we seein this debate. I hope we
see somebody I'm saying regarding Biden,I hope we see somebody that was adjacent

(01:16:56):
to a State of the Union addressbecause that was an example of somebody who
was wrong enough to run a fuckingcountry. He is not dealing with these
uh things head on, and thatshows a lot of I hope, but
I hope Biden had a big mealfor lunch, took a long fucking nap,
and then we'll got that great drugcocktail whatever the fuck they pumped into

(01:17:16):
him. Yeah, so I thinkthe last thing I'll say before we start
wrapping up tonight's episode and then yeah, take our quake sabatimal world, way
to go take care of bottling meansbefore we do this fucking run back of
a debate, is I think thisis only the last thing I'll say on
the pol The only thing that Ithink, I think the only thing just

(01:17:39):
for my analysis, that will causeBiden to lose the election this November will
be, like I think, ultimately, the fact that you know st that
that Americans don't give a shit about, you know, like nobody who who,
nobody who voted for Biden last time, It's going to vote for Trump

(01:18:00):
this time. So the only so, so I think the only reason why
Biben would use this election it wouldbe be a larger on a larger scale
of the New York sixteen uh arace between Latimer and Bolted Bowman where Goman
lost by I think, I thinkof five thousand votes. But the amount

(01:18:25):
of people who voted in that electionwas half of the amount of people who
voted in the in the previous election. Then that that's exactly what That's exactly
what I've been in the twenty sixthye general election for the presidency. I'm
when Democrats don't show up Republicans andwhat I'm saying Democrats have the numbers,

(01:18:46):
and what I'm what I'm saying isI hope that Biden has put enough faith
in people to make them come out. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
I I hope. So I thinkI think the word I I tell people
like, hey, listen, Iunderstand you're not going to vote but Biden,

(01:19:08):
and you can't because of because ofgenocide and Palestine. Go on,
but still go out and vote.Just just do right in. Just write
in like your mom's name or somethingfor the presidency. Make sure you still
need to vote down ball because that'salso important. Like that's the thing I
stress at this point, like Iand I'm not gonna advocate for Biden for

(01:19:30):
people who just don't want to hearthat. But I am gonna advocate for
still showing up on voting there becauseif you don't choke up on voting,
because like, here's the thing,Like worst case scenario, Biden loses because
nobody bugget votes for it, butenough people still showed up on fucking like
voting day to like put I don'tknow Democrats in every other aspect of government,
so they can just immediately like saying, like, pass a fucking law

(01:19:55):
that allows Congress to fucking like sanctionthe fucking presid when he starts actively breaking
the constitution. You probably hate mefor this, but genuinely, if you
live in a usually red or bluestate, ah, do you really have
to because like my thing is,I'm in LA. There is no way

(01:20:16):
you vote in the problem, noway the person listen general doesn't like.
That's why like when I say,like, it's the primary that matters unless
you care about local election. Ifyou care about local election, vote in
every single election every single two years. But if you're only really worried about
the president ever and you live,you know, consistently in a red or

(01:20:40):
blue state, I don't make theargument that you have to vote in Regardless
of I get where you're coming fromwith that, I fundamentally disagree simply because
if you have enough people that don't, if enough people think like that,
yeah, then I'll say this,vote only if you think the person you're

(01:21:00):
voting for is actually eligible for thatposition. How about that, I would
say, vote period, because theamount of fucking people who have fought and
died, so you know, people, I'm sorry, that doesn't matter in
terms of having when the election isconstantly two sides of the same evil coin

(01:21:24):
coin, just one of them isslightly less evil than the other, voting
no longer has the patriot the patriotism. I want to be very clear the
the Biden is shit. He's notevil, He's shit. I'm standing by

(01:21:44):
what I said, though I know, I know, I'm just saying what
you said was wrong. But ifyou have the perception that they are both
two sides of the same bullshit coin, then you should vote for neither one.
And that is the perception of andthat perception is a big reason why
people why I left wing people darnable to fucking mobilize the spectrum. So
on that note, ladies and gentlemen, this has been the Rundown episode seventeen.

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