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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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different teams.
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Can you tell me, tell me, tellme, tell me what it's all for?
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All this talk, talk, talk,talk's driving me insane.
Don't believe nothing that youhear and only half of what you
see.
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Yeah, you can't escape themasquerade, but every day's a
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brand new phase Grace is livinglike a snake and bittersweet's
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I'm out.
No, not at all.
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Can you tell me, tell me, tellme, tell me what it's all for?
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Ooh, this world's gone crazy.
Watch it going up in flames.
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All this talk, talk, talk,talk's driving me insane.
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It's all crazy, these littlemachines giving this world a
different tune.
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thing, every year's the same.
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Speaker 2 (03:37):
Hello Patriots,
little mic mess up there, but
we're back.
Right now we're working.
Listen, that was the music ofRick Monroe and the hit men.
We were on Facebook.
Him and I had kind of beencommenting on each other's stuff
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, sharing, sharing each other'sstuff True blue, red blooded
American, rick Monroe and thehit man.
The world's gone crazy.
He sent this video to me andsaid I think this would be an
awesome theme song for your show.
I said you know what, rick?
I think it will be.
Let's hear it from you.
The fans comment down below.
If you like that as a new themesong, send a message on the
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podcast.
Welcome to the Ryan Samuel show.
We have a good show today.
We're going to follow up alittle bit on the shooting in
Madison, wisconsin, that wecovered yesterday, and we're
also going to cover a little bitof the charges the indictment
that's been passed down on AlvinBragg with Luigi Mangione.
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We will listen to that.
Like I said, I have notlistened to that yet.
I tend to not listen to thesevideos.
I want to go ahead and get areal reaction from myself.
But check out Rick Monroe's pageon Facebook.
This is it right here, rightnow, what they're doing.
I think this is super awesome.
They're doing the 12 days ofgiving, where they have a
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charity.
It looks like they have acharity every day.
Um, for christmas this weekthey're doing uh the well.
Today they're doing the habitatfor humanity.
Uh, for rutherford, canada area, and uh, that's in, uh,
murphy's borough, tennessee.
Forgive me, I'm not from thatarea.
I probably butchered that.
But check it out, man.
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They have some really awesomesongs, some good country rock.
Um, check that out.
But as we go, and as always,before we begin, hit that like
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great updates directly to youremail about situations that are
going on.
We're constantly looking for thetruth.
As we said on the showyesterday, we don't make things
up.
We're not hyperbolic for clicksor clickbait or any of that.
We don't do any of that crap.
We want to get you the truth.
Now, as we all know, luigiMangione is the person who
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murdered the CEO ofUnitedHealthcare, brian Thompson
, in New York City as he wasjust walking to greet investors.
Now the left, ironically, haspraised this person as a hero.
He used a gun, not just any gun, a 3D-printed gun, which they
hate.
When this incident happened,there was no screaming, no
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crying, no yelling for guncontrol.
But now that we have thisschool shooting at this
Christian school, now all of asudden they want to scream for
gun control, but not when amaniac who has their same
ideology goes ahead and uses afirearm to murder somebody.
Now it just shows you howpolitical the left can be.
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If you're going to be political, at least be politically
consistent.
If you don't like guns, don'tlike them in every, in any
situation.
Not just the ones that um comeout to you, just not the ones
that you can relate to that youlike.
So here's alvin bragg.
What a human pile of garbagethis person is.
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He's a complete waste of space.
He should completely be removedfrom his office.
I cannot wait for the newDepartment of Justice to come in
and they start looking into himand investigating him for just
the atrocities that he has donein New York City.
Let's listen to him.
Read this indictment they filefiling charges against Luigi
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Mangione.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We are here to
announce that Luigi Mangione,
the defendant, is charged withone count of murder in the first
degree and two counts of murderin the second degree, including
one count of murder in thesecond degree as an act of
terrorism, for the brazen,targeted and premeditated
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shooting of Brian Thompson who,as you know, was the CEO of
UnitedHealthcare.
This case was made possible bythe collaborative efforts of the
phenomenal public servants yousee before you today and so many
others who are not here.
I'm honored to lead theManhattan District Attorney's
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Office and privileged to servealongside Assistant District
Attorneys Joel Seidman, kristenBailey and Zachary Kaplan who
were.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Everything this guy
does is for political purposes
and political reasons.
He doesn't give a shite.
Sorry, we have some advertisercomplaints on the podcast, so I
got to clean it up a little bit.
I apologize, it's not who I am.
I do like to curse, but we'regoing to go ahead and clean that
up.
He's just human garbage.
He's human waste, and everycharge he does is for political
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reasons.
Now he's sitting here thankingthe police department.
He hates the police department.
He hates cops.
He releases murderers day afterday after day, and when it
comes to his selectiveprosecution, again, be
politically consistent.
If you believe that, no, thereshould be no bail, then have no
bail.
If you believe there should bebail, then have bail, but keep
it consistent.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Working from the
outset hand in hand with the
greatest police department inthe world.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You hate cops.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Chief of our trial
division, lisa Del Piso, and the
deputy chief, chris Prevost,provided sage oversight and
direction, and I want toacknowledge our high technology
analyst analysis unit.
There was a lot to be processedhere, steve moran in particular
who heads that, and marcopoppock.
We are privileged here at theda's office to work every day
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with the phenomenal publicservants at the nypd.
It has been a distinct pleasureto work besides Commissioner
Tish, an exemplary partner, andChief of Detectives Joseph
Kinney Almost every day we're intouch and his leadership is
second to none and then DeputyCommissioner Rebecca Weiner.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He's so happy he's on
camera.
I mean, what are you eventalking about?
You're thanking everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
You're there to
recharge is just charge the guy
who, as I tell her, um, thereare a lot of challenging things
happening in the world and Isleep better, uh, at night,
knowing that she is the deputycommissioner in charge of
terrorism.
Uh, the detectives on this uhout doing the courageous
frontline work um, detectiveoscar dia, detective Curcio,
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exemplary, exemplary, the finest.
It wasn't just those of us herein New York.
I want to acknowledge the greatwork of our partners in Altoona
the Altoona Police Department,the Blair County District
Attorney's Office, the governorsof New York and Pennsylvania,
the FBI and, of course, thebrave members of the public who
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answered the call when our greatcommissioner put out the call
for their assistance.
This was a frightening,well-planned, targeted murder
that was intended to cause shockand attention and intimidation.
It incurred in one of the mostbustling parts of our city,
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threatening the safety of localresidents and tourists alike,
commuters and business peoplejust starting out on their day.
Let me say a bit more about thecharges.
They include one count ofmurder in the first degree as a
killing and furtherance ofterrorism.
Two counts of murder in thesecond degree.
One charge of the killing wasdone as an act of terrorism and
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the second pertained to the factthat the killing was
intentional.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You see how they
layer it and you know listen,
we're going to find out the moredetails about Luigi Mangione.
You are presumed innocent untilyou are proven guilty, and that
is very important to remember.
His lawyer said the same thingand I will tell you the same
thing the government will screwpeople.
We've seen the government screwpeople over.
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So you have to take things witha grain of salt and you have to
really look at thingsobjectively.
When the police file chargesand it's a big profile case, um,
you know, in the past I I havedone that.
I did that, uh, famously withthe casey anthony trial.
I said, hey, hold on, I don'tthink they have the evidence to
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even charge her with a crime.
Um, but they did anyway,because not that it was
politically motivated, but itwas a very high profile case and
she wound up walking freebecause of the lack of evidence.
So you have to and I'm sure alot of you think she's guilty as
hell and that's fine.
You're entitled to believe that, but the government will,
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especially in cases like this.
So this is something that youneed to understand.
This is a very high profilecase, a very uh, I presume I
haven't really looked, but Ipresume he's a billionaire or
close to it very important, verypowerful person is shot in the
back by a person who's clearlythere to kill him, intentionally
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murder him on the streets.
It's all over the news, it it'severywhere, right?
If they find somebody and theycan shut everybody up like, hey,
we got him, we got the guy.
And it's not even the guy, theywill continue to persecute that
person, even if it's not theperson.
There have been millions ofpeople who have been wrongly
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persecuted by the police,especially when DNA came out.
Now, when we discovered DNA andstarted using it in crime
scenes and they started testingDNA of all these people who were
on death row and all thesemurder suspects, it found out it
wasn't them.
This has happened countlesstimes in our history and there's
a ton of very famous cases thatcome to mind, not particularly
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with DNA.
But you know innocent peoplethat spent a ton of time in jail
that were eventually freed,like Reuben Carter, the famous
boxer, the movie the Hurricane,denzel Washington that is still
controversial to this day.
But you cannot tell me thatevery single person in our
judicial system that is inprison is guilty.
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Yeah, they've been ruled guiltyand not everybody that's been
set free is innocent.
So you have to look at this froman objective lens and
understand that a lot of timesor sometimes, police make
mistakes and you have to look atthe evidence for yourself and
take that in and look at that.
We saw it with the Daniel Pennycase or Kyle Rittenhouse.
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We saw a lot of wrongprosecutions of people for
political reasons also DonaldTrump.
So I'm not saying that that iswhat's happening here and I'm
not saying that Luigi Mangioneis innocent, but I'm also not
saying that he's guilty.
It does not look good for him,but do you really?
I'm going to ask you thisquestion If you're sitting there
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and I'm sure some of you aresaying, ryan, you're, you're out
of your mind, this guy'sabsolutely guilty Do you trust
Alvin Bragg, the same guy thatwent after Donald Trump, the
same guy that went after DanielPenny, the same guy that takes
in murderers and turns themloose on the street after they
push people in the subway?
Do you trust him?
And the answer should beabsolutely not.
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You shouldn't trust anygovernment, especially
government prosecutor, because Iwill tell you, the one thing
about prosecutors is the samething with defense attorneys
they are, they're supposed toseek the truth.
They're not seeking the truth.
They're trying to make youguilty, even if they think
you're not.
They're still going to try toput you in jail because that is
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their job.
And the more people they put injail, the more people they
prosecute, the better they lookto their superiors and the
easier it is for them to move uptheir superiors and the easier
it is for them to move up.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
The maximum penalty
possible for murder in the first
degree and murder in the seconddegree as an act of terrorism
is life without parole.
The maximum penalty for murderin the second degree is 25 years
to life.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But that's what I'm
saying.
They label it.
He killed one person and he'sgot three.
He's got three murder charges,one in the first degree, two in
the second degree.
It's all the same crime.
They're just making sure theyget them and it's harder for
them to get off.
It's not intended to be thatway, or judicial system's not
intended to be that way.
It's intended.
You kill this person.
We're charging you with murder,like that's it.
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You may also charge him with, Idon't know, uh, having a
concealed weapon in New YorkCity where that's illegal.
Like you can, you can layer onthings like that, but one crime
should be one charge, not threeseparate ones for one action.
That's absurd, because if youdon't get them on one, you're
going to get them on the othertwo, and that's the.
That's the point of it andthat's what they do.
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It's kind of cheating in a way.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
There are additional
counts as well, uh a number of
criminal possession of weaponcharges right yeah, two counts
in the second degree, fourcounts in the third degree, four
counts in the fourth degree, uh, and a count of criminal
possession of a forgedinstrument in the second degree
so what is, is it?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
What did he say?
Like four or five, six countsfor holding a weapon?
He held a weapon one time.
He held a weapon one time, notsix times.
But you're charging him withsix separate crimes for the one
individual crime.
This stuff drives me nuts.
It drove me nuts when I was apolice officer too.
I hated that.
I hated when officers did thator when DAs took it over and
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then they went ahead and didthat anyway.
No one crime is one charge.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Let me tell you a bit
about the facts.
On November 24th, we allegedthat the defendant arrived in
New York City to murder BrianThompson.
After the defendant arrived inNew York City on a bus at Port
Authority, he checked into thehostel on the Upper West Side
using the name Mark Rosario.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
We know all of this.
We went over this at length,but they finally indicted him
and that is where we are at inthat case.
But the left is praising him.
I can't do two things at once.
(18:41):
I can't type and talk.
I do apologize, but the um thething is is, you know, democrats
, when the school shooting andabundant life happens, they're
immediately screaming for guncontrol.
It's the guns.
It's the guns.
It's the guns, it's not theguns.
This is a much more complexsituation than an instrument or
a tool.
Okay, if you want to killsomebody, you're going to kill
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them.
Timothy McVeigh took fertilizerand put it in a 55-gallon drum
with some diesel fuel and lit afuse and killed hundreds of
people.
He didn't fire one round 9-11,they crashed planes into the
building.
He didn't fire one round.
You know 9-11, they crashedplanes into the building.
They didn't go in there.
You know, outlawing guns didn'tstop that from happening, or
outlawing hijacking planesdidn't stop that from happening.
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This is a low IQ argument.
It is insanity.
But the Biden administrationhas come out and demanded more
gun control because of theschool shooting, but not when
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Luigi Mandione killed the CEO.
Nobody said anything.
Everybody was happy,everybody's happy, praising him
on Twitter Making a checklist ofwho's next.
We're going to get this guynext and we're going to get this
other guy next.
And can we try harder?
Go for Elon Musk.
That's what people are saying.
That's not me, right.
I don't condone politicalviolence, but there you know, at
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a certain certain point, thereis a time for that, and that is
outlined in our Declaration ofIndependence, which is the first
American law ever passed whichjustifies the Revolutionary War.
So, natalie Rump now.
So last night we talked aboutthis and we looked at who the
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suspects possibly could be.
There was a big cloud I toldeverybody.
You know, listen, don't, don'tget sucked into the crap.
There's going to be a lot ofclickbait and a lot of junk out
there.
Now we know who it is.
This has come out.
The police department has saidit.
Her name is natalie uh rup.
Now, now there's a picture ofher wearing the same shirt as
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the columbine shooter, ericharris.
It's the exact same shirt.
This is what.
This is what people are saying.
You can see it on um.
Apparently she had a, anobsession with school shooters.
Um, she kind of felt, um, somesort of connection with the
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columbine kids or other schoolshooters.
And this is.
This is kind of what happensnow.
Now, of course, like I saidyesterday, there still, even now
, is no report of Natalie Rumnau, who went by Samantha is a
trans person.
There's nothing saying that asof now, at least not officially.
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There's a million things onTwitter that are saying that,
okay, there is a mental healthcrisis in our country and, as we
talked about it yesterday, thatI completely lost my train of
thought.
I don't think that's everhappened on this show, but
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there's nothing saying that sheis a tranny.
Actually, the reports that arecoming out is that she was
extremely conservative.
Now Christian school, whereNatalie Samantha Rupp now went,
is staunchly conservative,doesn't believe in evolution.
That's from the New York Post.
Conservative, doesn't believein evolution that's from the New
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York Post.
Well, if it did believe inevolution, it would not be a
Christian school.
So, but they're.
They're.
The screens for gun control areout there now because of this.
That that's the.
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That's the situation.
So what?
What's the difference?
What's the difference in theleft calling out gun control for
the school shooting and not themurder of a ceo?
I'll let you guys answer it.
Answer that question and put itdown in the comments.
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Here's somebody saying theseleftists radicalize natalie rup
now to shoot a school and thenturn around and blame the gun.
Okay, that's just some randomperson on Twitter.
I have no idea who the heckthey are.
It barely has any hits.
I think that's a ridiculousargument.
She was in the Christian school.
She was a student at theChristian school and it's not
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like she sought out a Christianschool to do it.
She did it where she was um.
Natalie rup now 15 year old.
So I'm interested to see more asthis story comes out and we're
gonna cover it.
We're gonna.
We're gonna watch this oneclosely and see, this is
wisconsin.
Is is more liberal thanconservative.
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I could tell you that much, um,I do have.
I know a lot of people inWisconsin.
Like I've said before, I'veworked for Harley-Davidson for
many years.
I have been there many, many,many times to the corporate
headquarters and the museum andall of that stuff.
So but you know, right nowthere is no, there's not really
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too much to update on thatAbundant Life.
Shooter Natalie Ruff.
Now manifesto.
Is this the actual manifesto?
I don't think that it is.
It has one comment no likes.
I don't think you crackedanything here.
I don't think you crackedanything here.
Wisconsin school shooterNatalie Lynn.
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Samantha Rubnett, identified astransgender Madison school
shooter, id, is trans student.
According to Axiom, this isapparently her in the bathroom
taking photos.
Police are still going throughall of her photos.
It's going to take time.
They have a lot of informationthat they're not releasing.
They're not going to release it.
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Um, and we're, we're, we'regonna see, but this I do not
anticipate that.
Uh, luigi mangione is going todo a plea deal, I think so.
Here's the thing, and I've saidthis ted kaczynski.
I have read all of his writings.
I don't know if you know who heis.
He's the unabomber.
Okay, he's the guy who blew upa bunch of college professors
because he was, uh, talkingabout technology and how it's
going to rule the world.
One thing I will say is, if youread his stuff, it makes a lot
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of sense.
Okay, a lot of it's true.
What he's saying a lot of it'strue, what he's saying a lot of
it's true.
Is that justification to gomurder people?
Absolutely freaking, not,absolutely not Right.
The First Amendment comes first,because speaking freely,
speaking word of your right tospeak freely, freedom of the
press, things like this petitionthe government for redress of
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grievances.
That's what it's for.
That's why the Second Amendmentis second, because it's the
second, most important, not thefirst thing you go to.
You don't go straight to yourguns.
You go to try to change.
You go to vote, you speak, youget the word out.
You talk about what thegovernment is doing and how bad
it's doing it, or what societyis doing and what we need to do
to change it.
You don't just go out andmurder people.
That is like an extreme lastresort and Thomas Jefferson even
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specifically says it in theDeclaration of Independence.
He says governments longestablished should not be
changed for a light or transientcauses, meaning that a
revolution or the overthrow of agovernment is extremely serious
and you shouldn't do it justbecause you didn't get your way,
or you shouldn't do it for anyreason whatsoever or because a
couple of laws passed that youdon't like.
That's not what you should bedoing.
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But he has talked about TedKaczynski, luigi Mangione he's
very similar to Ted kaczynski.
Luigi mangione he's verysimilar to ted kaczynski.
It looks like he went missingfor a while, as did ted
kaczynski.
Ted kaczynski went and lived ina mountain in the woods and
decided to do all this killing.
(27:22):
From there.
It appears that luigi mangionewent to the um, to the streets,
disappeared so far that hismother had to do a missing
persons report.
Okay, his family didn't knowwhere he was.
He stopped communicating witheverybody, he went underground
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and essentially went homeless,went missing, had a bunch of
cash on him and I think mypersonal feeling is that he is
going to um, was going to killthe ceo, hide out for a really
long time until the case wentcold and then he was going to go
out and do it again where hemessed up as he walked into a
mcdonald's when his face was allover the place and he had
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everything on him the manifesto,the, the gun.
Some people say that'ssuspicious.
I don't think it is Okay.
These types of killers fromtheir profiles what they want to
be noticed and they crave theattention and the credit.
That's what they want.
And so if you ever look at,like the Ted Bundy case, or the
Green River killer, or even youknow, ed Kemper, like all of
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these guys are out.
You know, especially Ted Bundy,how to represent himself,
couldn't have an attorney, hadto be out in front of the
cameras and and what love?
The attention, love the factthat people thought he was
intelligent and you know that.
That's that's that, that, thattype of personality?
Yeah, so do.
I think he wanted to get caught.
I do, but I don't think hewanted to get caught right away.
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I think he wanted to take TedKaczynski approach.
I think he wanted to use Idon't think he was going to get,
thought that he was ever goingto get that.
He was going to get caught, sowhy not wear it?
People walk around all the time.
Yeah, we had a couple of shotsof his picture, but not a lot,
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not all of them, not everything.
So we will continue to followthis and we will see where it
goes.
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