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Speaker 2 (00:19):
We'll see you next time.

(01:06):
What is going on?
Don Don't Unfriend Me Nation.
Welcome to a special Sundayedition of the Don't Unfriend Me
Show.
We're expecting maybe three orfour people here, because we're
never on on a Sunday.
If not, we'll just blame it onthe lack of not having a live
light Correct and ourprofessionalism.
We have Ryan Samuels here.
Ryan wave, Say hi everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hey everybody, how's it going have ryan samuels here,
ryan wave say hi everybody, heyeverybody, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
yeah, ryan samuels is in the house.
Please do me a favor, let'sshare, like and subscribe.
Uh, we're going to be talkingabout everything new and fun and
exciting.
Uh, alan donovan obviously wason the other night, ryan samuels
today, lisa regina tomorrow andthen adam and rick from
blackbird anthem.
Do we have anybody else bookedoutside of this week?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Blackbird Anthem is next week.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh, okay, Well, we need to get busy.
So, hey, if you want to be onthe Donut and Fremi show real
simple all you need to do is goto thedummshowcom and you can
fill it out right in our contactsheet.
Tell us you want to be on theDonut Framing Show, We'll get
you on.
Love to have you on.
If you're a new podcast oryou're an established podcast,
love to have you.
Hope everyone had a good Sundayand, Ryan, welcome to the house

(02:13):
, man.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Happy to be here, man .
Thank you so much for having me.
Dude, this is awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You got it we.
You have not had a chance.
Please go to facebookcom slashthe dumb show.
Matt, that is actually mypersonal page.
You can go there and follow,and we are also on Tik TOK and,
dare I say, we're actually doingpretty well on Tik TOK, which
is shocking.
If you have not had a chance tofollow us, it is tiktokcom
slash at thedumbshowcom.

(02:45):
We'll put those links in chat.
Olivia is going to pop them inright now because she's prepared
.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, I sure am.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Because she's doing that right now.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
I will.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, she will See you in a few minutes, everybody.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Be back in three.
Wow, we'll be right back.
We're going live.
Hey everybody, it's TS Dixon,author of the Woke Mind Viruses,
and I want to tell you that I'mpleased to be part of the Dumb
Show, the Don't Unfriend Me show, that you can find every
weeknight at 7 pm on socialmedia at the Dumb Show or on

(04:59):
their website, thedumbshowcom.
See you there.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
What the?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh, that was real short.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
That's what she said.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
I actually thought it was pretty long.
That was a very long time Right, military analysis and election
coverage coming to you live onall major social media channels
at the dumb show honest, direct,unfiltered.
We can agree, we can disagree,just don't unfriend me welcome

(06:00):
everybody.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
nice sunday afternoon we've been went to breakfast
over at Tammy's and thecarnivore diet was completely
eclipsed.
We had to get our good friendRyan Samuels a booster and a bib
, but he wasn't able to have apancake because it wasn't in his
goal to fit into a MinnesotaVikings cheerleader outfit by
the end of the summer, weunderstand.

(06:21):
So we got him a tampon and he'shere now and it's really
exciting.
Welcome to the Donut and Fremishow there, ryan Samuels.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Thank you, welcome.
I'm very happy to be here.
This is absolutely awesome.
When you and I first connectedthree years ago, we always
talked about this, and this isthe first time of, I'm sure,
many that will come.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
You know what's weird ?
It's like the awkwardness thatwas supposed to take place
between two people who've nevermet Like not at all.
I didn't even think about itLike this is the first time I
thought about it Like holy shit,I don't even, I don't even know
this fucking guy.
He's in my house.
But seriously, it was like,absolutely Like there was more
awkwardness between Leroy and Iin the first meeting, or Damani,
I'd like it just.

(07:00):
It just seemed completelynatural and that's just weird.
Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Can I say something?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Not really.
We've decided to move on fromyou.
And.
I have Ryan Real quick.
Just let me get donation.
Never mind you do it.
Why are we at 350?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
We are at 350 because we need to up our gold just a
tad Friday night, as you allknow, we love you for it.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
And when Alan Donovan from Father's Lives Matter was
going through a cancer battleright now and has got bills up
the wahoo.
We opened donations up.
It's wazoo Wazoo whatever.
Wahoo wazoo whatever Propervernacular.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
And we appreciate everyone that helped out and we
love that we were able to donate.
It was just an unexpected$5,500 expense that we were not
expecting at the moment, so wehad to go into our own personal
savings and do that, which weare very happy to do.
We've got absolutely nocomplaints about it.

(07:55):
I'm just happy that we're in aplace and we're fortunate enough
to be able to do that and helpsomeone who is in need.
But we need to replenish oursavings a little bit, so I have
the goal by $50.
If you could help, that wouldbe greatly appreciated.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'm in charge of finances.
I didn't do that, so I'm justletting you know.
Well, Barry Morgan will be veryproud.
He'll probably hire you as hisaccountant.
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
I'm not Jewish.
I don't think that'll happen.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
At this point, I think everyone who disagrees
with most people on the farright they're Jewish.
So here's the deal.
I just want to make sureeveryone understands.
I always keep my word and Ipromised you guys that I would
keep the receipts and show youour donations, and these are
100% not giving any informationout.
In fact, if you want to helpAlan out, you can, but here

(08:45):
there's the total of what wegave him.
Now this is your donation andus matching the donation.
And remember there's anadditional $2,500 that we're
also doing for his taxes.
So when tax time comes around,we will gross up and pay for his
taxes.
So, just to everyone, to behonest, you guys raised about

(09:06):
3,000 flat.
It was a little under 3,000.
We gave our six, which you cansee here, and we additionally
are going to do, I think it'sanother $2,500 for grossing up
the taxes.
So I wanted to be verytransparent, as I always am, and
try to be as honest as I can,that we are as good as our word,
and we did that.
We figured we would relay thatto you.

(09:28):
As far as Olivia adding $50 onthat, I didn't know, but that's
Olivia and that's up to her.
We'll see what happens.
It's good to have so manypeople.
This is a Sunday.
I can't imagine that this isgoing to be huge.
Nobody knows we're on.
But the only way that that canhappen is that if you share it
and share, please send this overto Twitter, facebook, rumble,

(09:48):
whatever.
And we were very, very happy tohelp Alan out and he was very
humbled.
He said thank you to everybodyand it was awesome.
So we just we just bumped it upa little bit.
It looks like just to kind ofhelp out a little bit, see if we
can hit a little bit more, justto make up a little of that
deficit, because we do have avacation coming up and right now
.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
We did just go back to school shopping for the
children.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Oh my God, I mean seriously, do you want to get a?
Can we have a pot and pan?
I mean seriously, we're notpanhandling here, for God's
sakes.
I mean you don't get.
You don't get anything.
You get nothing.
You don't like it, Let me.

(10:30):
Let me get a hot poker.
I'll burn your eyes out.
It's better when you're blindand can see.
Oh my god, she's, she's pullingup, freaking.
Oh my god, what's the movie?
What's?
Hold on robin hood.
No, shut up.
No, no arms for blind men, sir.
No, no, it's uh slumdogmillionaire ding, ding.
Yeah, that's a slumdogreference yeah, burn, burn the
kids eyes out.
They make more money.
Jeez, you're yippers, jeezyou're horrible.
Well, let's see.
Yep, we're coming five by five.
Do we have some of your peopleon there Rumble?

(10:52):
No, I'm talking about Ryan.
Ryan, did you share it over toyour channel?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I did share it over to my channel.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
yeah, All right.
Well, let's rock and roll.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
We've got too much new footage, but I shared it
over, so, okay, we should getsome people.
Well, that's good, uh, yeah isthis just?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
just popped up.
Thomas austin donated 2110.
Hope everybody is having apleasant sunday.
We are thomas sir you beinghere makes it all the better.
Get her a marker and a piece ofkeyboard or cardboard.
Yep, sounds like sounds like agood idea so here's so right and
people have no idea who you are.
No, I'm kidding, that's nottrue, it's kind of true, that's

(11:26):
bullshit.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
We have some exciting news to announce.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
First of all, are we ready to do that, or do we want?
Well, you put it up on yourbanner, so I guess that's pretty
.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, let's do it.
Full send, bro.
Go ahead, full send it.
So my show is on.
Normally I'm on weeknights at 830.
We're gonna go ahead and moveit to 9 because matt, I'll let
you no, you do it.
It's okay, it's go for it allright, so matt is going to be on

(11:54):
from 7 to 9 and then I'm goingto be on from 9 to 10.
For now, then, we're going tokind of collaborate a little bit
more, because I know a lot ofour followers watch both of us
and they're very annoyed thatwe're on at the same time on
different channels.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
So how that works is like at the last 15, 20 minutes
of of our live show, ryan willcome on and be like hey, you
know, this is what we're goingto talk about.
The show's going to be on atnine o'clock and then we would
hope the dummies would, wouldmove over there, and then I will
jump on his show once in awhile and say hey, you know,
blah, blah, blah, come on andand do that.
We're just going to crosspollinate and we think that us

(12:32):
competing against each otherfrom that seven to nine hour.
We're only a half hour off.
So why not just go ahead andand split it up, yeah, and then
get damani on killer and then,and then expand the network.
So I think it's a great ideaand I think it'll be awesome,
dude.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, me too, man.
I think it's going to be goodfor everybody for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Good, good, so that's going to take place.
We'll figure, let him get hometo Florida and we'll go from
there.
So there you go.
So Ryan Samuels and the Don'tKnow, If I Remember Show will be
separated just a little bit soyou guys can go ahead and cross
pollinate.
Liv, does that make you lookstunning tonight?
I mean just the love the topand I love the houndstooth and
looks great, it's my favoritefabric.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I love it.
Happy.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I found a houndstooth isn't a fabric, it's a pattern.
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I mean your gay side is coming out right now.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know that right First of all, it's a day that
ends with why my gay side isalways out.
Number two I've never been like.
Look at that lovely fur, lookat the crazy pattern it's in.
Yes, that's actually calledhoundstooth.
It's beautiful.
It's a checkered lovely littlething.
Never said those words, neverso.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
You sound like a pompous Englishman.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That's redundant, it's kind of redundant, all
right.
So here, compass englishman,that that's redundant, it's kind
of kind of all right.
So here's the thing we're gonna.
We're gonna, once you guyslearn a little bit about, about
ryan.
Ryan is a marine.
He's always a marine, always bea marine tell me about yourself
, always a marine yep, tell us alittle about yourself.
How did you get into this game?
You're in the core.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Walk us through, yeah yeah, so, uh, I grew, I was
political always my whole life.
I was probably the only onethat was interested in my family
besides maybe, my dad, who'salso a Marine.
But yeah, I was in high schoolwhen 9-11 happened and I was in
New York.
I grew up in New York and I wasa paramedic for a little bit a
little while after that time andthen I joined the Marine Corps.

(14:23):
I was in the Marine Corps forfive years, 2005, 2010.
I'd always been infatuated withthe news and loved the news and
always kind of wanted to be inbroadcasting.
I actually worked at a newsstudio for a little while
because I was just interested inpolitical commentation.
And then you know how it is youkind of get wrapped up in life
and then work some jobs.

(14:45):
And then Joe Biden did thevaccine mandate and I was like,
all right, that's it, I'm done,it's time to to kind of get
started.
So it was literally that daywhen I bought my first like
microphone and camera.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Were you still contracting at the time?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, so at that time I was yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So like, ok, so let's go back to dad.
So, dad, my dad was a Marine, Icould say posthumously because
he's dead, um, and, and I'm surehe's a Marine in heaven, you
know, looking down upon sailorsand army and air force people as
inferior rugrats.
But what, how?
What was that like when youdecided, hey, I'm going to go
down to delayed entry program,I'm going to go into maps, and
so was it?
Was it?
Was he pushy?
Was he like not at?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
all?
Not at all.
So.
So if my grandfather was too,so I was.
I'm third generation, so I'mnumber three and my nephew,
donnie shout out to him he'sactually active duty now.
It was actually my sister's sonand I didn't even know he was
interested in joining themilitary.
And then I went to my sister'swedding because she got
remarried and I met him thereand then my sister told me that

(15:52):
he was avoiding me all night andI'm like what's going on with
this kid?
So I talked to his mom.
She goes well, he's going tojoin the army.
And I'm like, ah, that makessense.
So I went over and I said sitdown, son, we don't do that in
this family, dude, right.
So he joined the Marine Corpsand he's an infantry Marine now
and his life is miserable.
You're welcome, donnie, you'llthank me for it in 10 years.

(16:12):
It looks good on the resume,yeah, yeah.
So no, you know, you got toremember too.
It was a different time, right.
So I went in in 2005.
I mean, it was full-blown OIF,oef.
It was just different.
You know.
You know two warssimultaneously.
I mean, everybody was forward,deployed, millions and millions

(16:33):
of dollars of equipment wasbeing thrown at it.
It was just a different timeTalking to him about it now it's
a little bit different, youknow.
So no, he wasn't pushy at all,he was super stoked.
I'll tell you that.
You know, it was kind of likeone of those things.
He wasn't in Vietnam, but hewas a Vietnam era kind of guy at
the end of Vietnam.
So he was in, like I think,late sixties, early seventies

(16:54):
era.
So it was just something thatlike wasn't a huge part of his
identity.
I should say, you know, you'dnever seen with a Marine Corps
hat or T-shirt or anything likethat.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
What was your MOS?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh, three, 11 and an eighty one, fifty two, so
riflemen civilians.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, I have no idea what that means.
Yeah, so a bunch of numbers.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So in the I was infantry.
So in the infantry you have theriflemen, which is the ones
that are clearing houses,kicking down doors, front lines
kind of guy.
That's what an oh three 0311 is.
Then you have like oh 331smachine gunners, then you have
41s mortar men and theneverybody else exists to support
the 0311 essentially, but youhave a name for those people.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
What?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
bullet sponges yeah yeah but.
But so it's actually a funnystory.
I went to the recruiters 9-11it just had not just happened,
but I was too young to join.
Then I got kind of wrapped upin life and I was like I wanted
friggin, I just want.
I was in kind of wrapped up inlife and I was like I want to
frigging, I just want to.
I was in New York as aparamedic.
I was like I just want to gokill terrorists.
That's like literally how Ifelt at times.
So I walked into a cruiseofficer.

(17:52):
So what do you want to do?
So I want to kill terrorists.
He said, okay, there's athousand of you guys joined,
like just stop talking.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
You need to take the asfab first.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
So I took the asfab and my score was through the
roof and this guy's like I don'twhat's through the roof?
I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, you show, it was like you can't come into
this house and say you're aswell I call.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I call for intel.
I'll tell you that.
So I call for I basicallyqualified for any you qualified
for marine corps intelligenceyeah so that's basically they
issue you crayons and you canfucking and you have the
knowledge to read all theshortest kid on the fucking down
syndrome bus.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's fine , go ahead so.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
So basically my recruiter.
It took him like two months totalk me out of infantry and we
compromised and I want securityforces, so security forces, they
, they kind of I don't want tosay this because the infantry is
going to be mad at me, so Iwon't say it.
So it's you are infantry, butyour first two years you're

(18:51):
stationed at a differentspecialized unit where you're
either protecting nuclearweapons or you're with the fleet
anti-terrorism security teams.
Those are the guys that go inand rescue embassies when
they're overrun.
So you either wind up on one ofthose two teams.
I are the guys that go in andrescue embassies when they're
overrun, so you either wind upon one of those two teams.
I was in the PRP program, whichwas the personal reliability
program, and I dealt withnuclear weapon security.

(19:13):
So, but again, at that time twofull blown wars were going on,
so everybody important wasoverseas, so it was actually the
lower ranks that were doingmost of the security, and all
the equipment was overseas too.
So we had crap, which was fine,because that's where it needed
to be, you know so thomas sayswell, actually it's.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's.
Carrie says ryan, do you missbeing active?
no, yeah, it was like a prisonsentence you don't get out
unless you don't get out, unlessyou well, there's two ways to
get it like if you, you get outmedical, that's.
That's probably a littledifferent.
Most guys that get out medicaldidn't really want to get out,
got out because either they hadto or realized that they
couldn't do what they wanted todo anymore.
I was the latter.

(19:54):
But so when you, when you didyour four or five, five years,
you were at that time.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Security forces was a five-year contract.
Funny story about that Ioriginally had a four-year
contract because I wanted to goinfantry and then I did security
forces, which I signed acontract that was still four
years.
And just so everybody knows,the funny stories about
recruiters are true because whenI got to MEPS to ship out, he
goes oh, by the way, we justneed you to sign this contract,

(20:23):
it's just your last one beforeyou leave.
And then I got to Paris Islandand I found out that that last
one was a five year and not afour year.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yep, funny story.
So my recruiter?
Yeah, fuck, I'll say it.
He was Boat Swim's mate, firstclass Garcia.
His first name is Jason.
He was in Littleton, colorado.
I probably have a little moreinformation if you want to find
him Fuck him.
So I called him from.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Basic.
Wait, you got phone calls.
That makes sense?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, not Basic A school.
First thing no, you did getWeekend.
You did get Weekend, ricky,after Week 4, you did get
Weekend.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
You were allowed to make I don't know three minute
phone call.
We got one minute.
We got it was a 30 second phonecall when you arrived and it
was a script and they werescreaming in your face same
thing.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
And I got there like midnight and my mom was like
what the we're department of thenavy certainly not not from a
physicality standpoint, but froma procedure standpoint.
It's almost identical, likevery much, so much so, oh yeah,
the steps you get there.
You make your phone call, thenyou're going to get out Navy and
Marine Corps, and then thatsimilarity changes the moment
you get to your barracks.
Yeah, like there's nocomparison between.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well, I was on a Navy base and it was the greatest
thing in the world.
I had like an apartment and allthe Marines I talked to you
lived, you know four guys to aroom the size of a bathroom.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Not in boot, but in school.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
No, well, when I got to the well, because the Marine
Corps doesn't have nuclearweapons, the Navy does Right.
So I was on a Navy base withNavy barracks.
Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Right, and once again , A school and C school were
completely different than boot.
Yeah, but procedurally boot isidentical Up up until the point
that you're up at 0400 and youmeet your DI or your RDC.
Then it completely changes.
Then there's nothing similarabout the boot camp between the
Navy and the Marine Corps.
It's nothing, even close.
Okay, Marine Corps is a milliontimes more difficult and

(22:15):
mentally and physicallychallenging than the Navy, but
everything up until 0400 and youpop your rack for the first
time is exactly the same.
So we got our 30 second phonecall.
You read from the script mom,dad.
I'm here you know, so it, it, it.
That's basically it.
So, but with my recruiter.
So my recruiter we had a chiefpetty officer and and then we

(22:40):
had everyone else was was pettyofficer, first classes.
So Garcia comes to me and he'slike you've got like six
speeding or nine speedingtickets.
You can't join the militarywith nine speeding tickets.
And I'm like, ok, and he's likeI need you to take your ASVAB.
We're going to do that, thenwe'll figure out these tickets.
I said great, so got a 98 on myASVAB.

(23:04):
That was supposed that was aimedat you there, I know and and
and so they were pushing nukeand I'm like, no, I'm not doing,
I want intel.
I want to be jack ryan, I wantto go to intel.
They said, no, there's no intelbill at open and I said I don't
give a shit, I'm not joiningthat, I'm leaving.
I'm going to go in the marinecorps and the marine corps I
guarantee I will qualify forwhatever the fuck I want.
I, I'm leaving, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
At any branch.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but specifically the Marine Corps.
Because Intel and Marine Corpsno offense, it's not, it's
nothing disrespect.
But Marine Corps people arehard chargers, they're ground
pounders, they are warriors.
And the people who join usuallyare mental type alphas who are
not necessarily like Ryan orother people who joined Intel.
They're a different breed,they're a different type of

(23:45):
person.
So I felt comfortable goinginto Marine Corps doing the
training but also having afairly high score where I would
qualify for the MOS I wanted.
And the guy's like you know,here's the deal, we'll figure
out about this, but we got toget these nine speeding tickets.
So I have a standardquestionnaire.
We have 13 questions for youand these are the 13 questions

(24:07):
of death.
It's very similar to abackground check on getting a
weapon.
You know like have you everbeen psychologically admitted to
a hospital?
Are you addicted to drugs?
Do you have a felony?
These questions are the kiss ofdeath and anyone that you say
affirmative, you're toast In themilitary if you don't say the
truth.
And then they do your SSBI andthey find out differently, then

(24:30):
you're cooked.
So he's like have you eversmoked marijuana?
And I'm like yes and he's likeno.
And I said yes and he goes no.
And I said no and he goes yes,and and then I said hey, man,
listen, I don't feel comfortablewith this.

(24:50):
I smoked pot.
I was 13 years old at a deafleopard concert with my brother
and I smoked a joint.
I just want to be transparent.
He's no, you didn't, andthey'll never find out.
Now.
Now I mean, I've done SSB eyesand I was.
I was naive and I'm like oh, oh, okay, sure, put it in.
And then they asked a couple ofother questions and I was like

(25:11):
no, so basically the recruitertells you to lie, so you go down
there.
100% tells you to lie.
Well, I was in my second Cschool.
I had graduated honor man.
In my A school I was top 1%, Iwas first in my class, which
means that I get a C school ofmy choice and I get to choose my
billet wherever I want to go,wherever I want to go.

(25:33):
Here's a map, here's all thebases, here's all the units you
can work with.
Pick, you're going there,you're number one in the class.
So I get my first C school.
Well, then I get meritoriousadvancement and I get an
additional C school, and then Iwound up getting a third school.
But in the between the secondschool and the third school,
when I was in strike which isbasically what we did in Iran,

(25:54):
which is planning those types ofthings, whether it be a ground
assault or whether it be anincursion, or working with a
smaller special forces group ordoing bombing or anything else,
or working with a smallerspecial forces group or doing
bombing or anything else I get aletter and IS-1 Cockler is
sitting in class and I know it'ssupposed to be your interview,
but we're doing this anyway.
So IS-1 Cockler is sitting upthere, she's a female, she's

(26:17):
6'1" and IS-1 Cockler goes Spear.
I said yes, ma'am, and she goes.
You are to report to the navyexchange, hotel room 16 now.
And I'm like, oh fuck, you know, finally, getting the respect I
deserve is one fuck.
Yeah, I'll be there, but littledid I know that that, that I

(26:38):
there was an investigation andcid was there and I walked in
and there is a guy in a suitwith his sleeves rolled up and
his jacket's on the back andhe's got a respirator machine
and he's got a polygraph and hestands up and opens up a badge
and says hi, criminalinvestigative division, we are

(26:59):
running an SSBI backgroundinvestigation and we've reached
a snag in your background check.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
This is for your clearance.
Yeah, yeah, I went through thesame thing and it's the big one
right.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
So this is ssbi that yeah 340, some odd effing pages,
750 000 clearance check and youhad to fill out like 32 pages
in triplicate.
So they knew everything aboutme.
So he's a mr spirit just wantto let you know.
You're going to be goingthrough a polygraph today and
they don't warn you.

(27:28):
No, they don't warn you andthey tell you, just like I told
you there's no warning.
You don't get like a.
Hey, you know, your backgroundhas a snag in it.
You got to go do this and youprepare for it.
No, they pulled me out offucking class and five minutes
later I'm at the next and I amsitting in a room and it feels
like this guy's got a light.
Where were you on february 16th, you see?

(27:50):
And?
And so he straps me up and hestarts asking questions.
Now I probably could have askedfor a lawyer, but then I would
have lost my clearance and Iwould have been done.
I could have asked for somesort of representation or speak
to my duty officer, dutycommander.
So I just started asking himquestions and he's like have you
ever smoked marijuana in yourlife?
And I'm like, yes, there is nolying.

(28:17):
I'm just like yeah, and he'slike when?
And I'm like blah, blah, blah.
And I told him he's like haveyou ever threatened to blow up a
business?
And I'm like, fuck, I don'tlike.
I feel like these questionsaren't loaded and I feel like
somebody must've said that I did.
And they talked to everybodyand I'm like, no, I've, I've

(28:37):
never.
Have you ever threatened tokill another person for not
paying you for a service?
And I'm like what the fuck?
And I'm like no, and thequestions just kept coming and
they were have you ever dealtany type of illicit substances
or with hallucinogenicproperties?
You know, it was the secondaryand I'm like, yeah, and it just

(29:01):
fucking dude.
It came out.
So I was with my brother and hesold a bag of mushrooms to some
fucking apartment when he was 17and are no 18.
And I was in the car with himand I remember it because my
brother said he was and I justwas honest.
And so this guy, I'm there andI, dude, I must've looked like I

(29:22):
just got done banging theentire senior football team and
I was in church, right.
So I'm just, I'm just a fuckingmess.
I'm there and I, dude, Imust've looked like I just got
done banging the entire seniorfootball team and I was in
church, right.
So I'm just, I'm just a fuckingmess.
I'm like my entire career isover, I'm going to have to
fucking out process, I'm gonnahave to jump off of a building
and break my femur or something.
And I look at the guy and I'mlike, so how did I do?
And he, he looks at, supposedto say anything, but that is the

(29:43):
worst question you couldpossibly ask.
Don't ever ask that questionagain.
It is the number one thing thatlets us know that, if it was
inconclusive that you're guilty.
So I'm giving you some advicebecause you're a good kid Shut
your fucking mouth, take theresults and ride it out.

(30:03):
And I said, okay, but how did Ido?
And he goes you failed miserablyand that's pretty typical for
just about anybody, and if youmake it through this, we'll
teach you how to do it the rightway.
But right now you're in a worldof trouble and you're in a
world of shit.
You've been through a millionand a half dollars worth of
training and you're in trouble.

(30:25):
So I would go back and do yourjob and hope that you've made a
big enough impression on yourcommand that they can treat you
like the 1% that make it out ofthis room after lying to the
department of the Navy and I'mlike oh, like, is that all?
And so I went back to class andnothing, nothing.

(30:46):
I swear to God, dude, six weeks, not a fucking word, nothing.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
No follow up.
Can you sweat it out?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
No follow up.
And so I talked to my companycommander and he's like I would
recommend that you pull everyrelationship you've had in the
world and get letters ofreference from everyone you
possibly know.
So my brother wrote a letterplease don't hate my brother
because of what I did and my dadwrote a letter.
He had a congressional medal ofhonor friend at the golf course

(31:13):
.
The Senator wrote a letter.
I mean it was just like like Ihad never had so many nice
things said about me that werecompletely not true, people who
I did not know and got out of mysecondary C school and then I
was and swag was really I'mgoing to finish and swag was
releasing and they were openingup naval special warfare
activity group, which was Intel,with the teams and I had locked

(31:35):
that in on my secondary class.
I was going to get a third skiC school, which is unheard of,
and the instructor, which wasIS-2 striker, came up to me and
said I want to let you knowNSWAG starts on Monday and
you're in and I turned around Isaid IS-1, may I ask a question?

(31:59):
He looks at me and goes no,just shut the fuck up and don't
talk about anything ever againand just be quiet.
You're in the class, we'removing on and that was it.
Never heard about it again,never, had never said anything.
But they.
They gave me my clearance and Irolled up with TSSCI without a
problem.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
So when did you make this phone call to your
recruiter?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That's how the story started, so this is interesting.
Sorry, she did it, brian, I wasgoing to be done so so so the
interesting thing is that I wasnow in NSWAG and I was making
phone calls and I was literallyhaving a phone sex experience
with Stephanie Stevenson.
Hi, stephanie.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I highly doubt she's watching.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I don't know, I was pretty impressive.
So I was on the pay phone andof course there's two things in
that pay phone booth there arequarters and there are also

(33:01):
alcohol swabs and wipes.
Because, listen, and he justgot from boot and IS1 Smith was
a black guy who had the shavingshit from the world.
He literally looked like thosenew rabbits that have all those
things growing out of him.
He was doing muster and thisnew kid came in and he gave
shine to IS1.
And he said this ain't boot campanymore.

(33:22):
You can't tell me what to do.
So we had six guys who weregoing to roll through buds.
They were doing their IScourses first and they came up
to me and when I was in the roomwas, of course, they're talking
in the in the TV.
It's like fucking oh 100.
The only people who are up arethe watch and I hear them

(33:43):
talking.
And I'm in that room and I'mkind of like talking to
Stephanie.
We're about to have anexperience here.
And I'm kind of like fucking,go to bed.
Right, you're breaking theunspoken rule.
And so I walk out there andDaniel Taco comes out and he
goes Spirit, go to fuck the bed.
You're not going to likewhat's're about to do?
And I'm like fuck you, taco,what the fuck is wrong with you?

(34:04):
And he's like you know thatlittle prick that was at Muster.
We're going to fucking teachhim a lesson.
They all had shower shoes, sothey were going to fucking.
They're going to blanket partythis douche plow.
And I'm like you guys are goingto get us all fucking.
Christmas and Thanksgiving arecoming up.
You guys are going to get usbuddy fucked, buddy fucked.

(34:32):
They're like just go back inyour hole and make your phone
call and we've got this.
And then, dude, like fiveminutes later I just hear thwap,
thwap, thwap, thwap, thwap,thwap, thwap, thwap, thwap,
thwap, thwap.
And they just beat the livingshit out of this kid.
And George Peterson, who wasfucking Taekw, just fucking
wailed on him with shower shoes.
And this poor kid, I mean justthis fat kid was literally like
Gomer Pyle and he's crying dude.

(34:58):
So, anyway, next day, oh,fucking captain's mask, dude,
there's a massive investigation.
Marine Corps comes in, they doa full panel to do a full
inquiry.
They tear down the barracks,they bring everybody in for
interviews.
I'm getting to it.
So, taco, and I'm the only onewho know, everyone knows who did
it.
You know what I'm talking about, ryan.
Yeah, but I'm the, I'm the onlyeyewitness, right.

(35:19):
And is Speer going to fuckingnarc?
Is Speer going to get in frontof the Jack Nicholson tribunal
and wimp out?
And of course, I was a smartkid and I didn't.
I went in, I was tight, I wasshined, my salutes were crisp,
everything was perfect.
I recognized everybody'sepaulets, I knew all the ranks.
There was Marine Corps in there.
I just crushed it and the guycomes in and they're doing the

(35:41):
investigation.
This is over weeks.
They're doing this and nobodyspills the beans.
They bring everybody in andthey start fucking like bringing
us into group chats, and theybring in colonels, they bring in
fucking captains and they'reputting the screws on us.
We're going to cancel Christmas, we're going to cancel
Thanksgiving and nobody willsquawk.
We were tight, nobody wouldsquat.
So we get into the tribunal thefucking, the captain's mask and

(36:05):
I'm the last witness and I walkin and all six of those guys
are sitting there.
They're looking at me Right.
And now, this time, instead ofbeing all tough, they're like
please, matt, don't say anything, you fucking cocks.
So I get in there and the andthe Marine Corps leans into me
and he's like so, spear, you'vegot some great records here,
don't you?
You got some really goodnumbers, don't you?
You got some really goodnumbers, don't you?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
He's like.
I got one question for you.
Do you believe code reds andblanket parties happen in the

(36:27):
military?
And I'm like, sir, it wouldseem evident that they do.
In this case.
Not the right thing to say any.
What the fuck is wrong withyour fucking shit, fucking mouth
.
I swear to fuck, I'll put myboot up your fuck.
And I'm just just sitting there.
I'm like, okay, I got himdistracted, I've moved him off.
Now, now I take the hit.
I didn't say anything.

(36:48):
He's like you tell me youdidn't hear anything.
I'm like, no, sir.
He's like how is it possiblethat you didn't hear anything?
I said I was actually focusedon my female friend on the other
line and I was doing thingsthat were inappropriate to be
doing inside the phone booth atquarter C inside damn neck
Virginia.
So he's like are you telling meyou were jacking off?
And I said, sir, that would beappropriate.
And he's like well, no stupidmotherfucker would say that in

(37:11):
front of a military tribunal,unless he's telling the fucking
truth, don't you think?
I said sir, yes, sir, dismissedme.
I walked out and taco Pacowound up taking the hit.
At the end of it he came in andsaid he did it.
And they're like so you'retelling me you held this guy
down with a blanket and hit himover 300 times with a shoe by
yourself?
And he's like yeah, that aboutsums it up.

(37:31):
They just wanted to throw itout.
The point is, is that I calledmy recruiter and I was so pissed
at all that shit that happenedis.
I called him up and I said hi,is this IS-1 Garcia?
I think it was.
I don't remember what his namewas, I think that's what it was.
And he goes, yes.
And I said, hey, this is PettyOfficer, third class, spear,

(37:54):
is-3.
And he goes oh, how are youdoing, bud, how are you doing?
And I said I'm doing justwonderful.
I was wondering if you couldgive me commands number for the
recruiting station, recruitingstation of Denver, and of course
, his asshole puckers.
He's like why do you want that?
And I said because I'm going tobe filing a formal complaint
Cause you told me to fucking lieabout smoking marijuana.

(38:15):
Turn into this long thing.
And that was it.
There's the whole story, ryan,thanks for showing up today.
We really appreciate having itin the Donut and Friendly Show.
I'm sorry, there's no more time.
So that's the story.
And I wound up going back tothat recruiting station and I
was it was IS-3.
And that's where I got mymeritorious advancement to IS

(38:37):
Petty Officer, so an E-4.
Is-3, I was a seaman and Iwound up getting meritorious
advancement because I actuallyrecruited five people into the
United States Navy for 90 days.
Tdy, he was no longer there,but I went back to the Denver
recruiting station, and that'show I got my meritorious
advancement to my crow.
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's a long fucking story, bro.
I'm sorry, I really didn't meanto take.
Anyway you joined the MarineCorps.
What happened?
Did you do anything fun?

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Well, joined the Marine Corps.
What happened?
Did you do anything fun?
Well, I was stateside for themajority of my enlistment.
Like I said, you know all ofthe everything was needed in
both wars.
So we were kind of stuck behindand left there, which was, you
know, fine, we had a job, we didit.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
You know we did it well did you like any of it or
so?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
it was kind of cool when I would be in charge of
moving a nuclear weapon from astorage facility to a submarine
and I was in charge of theconvoy and I had a plan, the
convoy and I was in charge, youknow 20, 30 marines with machine
guns and I was 21 years old,like that was kind of cool shit.
You know what I mean yeah, andthat's not normal, like nowadays
.
That's not normal.

(39:44):
That's nowadays, that's notnormal.
That's something a gunnerygunnery sergeant's doing or a
captain's doing.
But, like like I said, backthen everybody was forward
deployed, so I was a corporaldoing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Did you, did you ever do any time in Rocky Rocky
mountain flats in Colorado,Cause they had nuclear disposal
over there?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
no, no, no, never.
So I had the chance to go to.
It was the air force nuclearbase.
I think it was north dakota orsouth dakota, but I didn't go
because we were doing the starttreaty inspections with the
russians.
Yep, so I used to do, I used torun those too.
They got a couple ofwinnebago's that you sit in and
their inspectors come andthey're all kgb every last one
of them.
The inspectors and ourinspectors are all either cia,

(40:27):
nsa, and it's just a bunch ofspies looking at a law book,
measuring things.
But the star treaty sunsetted,so I could talk about that now
yeah, so so you did that.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
You're loading boomers, obviously, because
you're not loading ssns with,with, with, with nukes, because
if you are, you're loading SSNswith nukes, because if you are,
you're doing it wrong.
So you're loading boomers andyou have a call to re-up, right.
So you were in good standing, agreat standing, yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, you're sitting right there.
Yeah, when you're like thesecurity force, nuclear so it's
like the same category asguarding the president, which is
Yankee white.
So if you see the Marines thatstand outside the president's
door when he opens up, saluteshim, or they're outside, you
know, marine one, the helicopter, those are Yankee white Marines
.
They're under the same securityforce umbrellas, the nuclear
guys and fast company.

(41:15):
It's just tiered differently.
So the Yankee white guys arealso the same silent drill
platoon guys.
So you can go two ways.
You go yankee white, which iseither you're at well, three
ways, you're either at campdavid, the white house, or
you're doing the silent drillplatoon.
Then you have then the nextlevel, below, that is, the
nuclear weapons guys, which iseither maine or kings bay,

(41:36):
georgia, and then you have thefast company guys.
Those are the guys.
So we all, similar to you, weall get to security force school
.
You don't know what you'regoing to do.
And they did exactly the samething.
Bunch of intel guys, navy intelguys, ncis comes, naval
Criminal Investigation, and theyhit you with your polygraphs
and your questionnaires have youever done drugs, have you ever
drank?

(41:56):
And if you don't qualify for aclearance, you went to Fast
Company because you didn't needa clearance and fast company.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Did you get, did you get clocked on your background
investigation?
No, I did not, I mean it'sweird because we didn't have to
answer that, unless they foundthey found a discrepancy.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
No, so they, they, you guys, had to, because we had
to sense it, Once we got ourTSI.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
we did, but not before.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, so they hit us with that there and everybody
wanted to go fast company, causethat was the sure.
So there were guys that wereliterally lying that they used
to do that.
Yeah, I smoked weed my wholelife.
Okay, you don't get a clearancebut you get to stay in, but you
can't guard nukes or thepresident.
So you're going to fast company.
So that's that's how it wasthen and what I mean as a you

(42:41):
know 21 year old kid.
I had a.
I started with a secretclearance and then they all I
got audited up to a top secretclearance and then, yeah, I mean
I'm standing there between twocountries that have been in a
cold war forever, you knownuclear adversaries inspecting
each other, and I'm the guy inthe middle.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, it was, it was cool.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
You know I was was, it was cool.
You know I was just the rightplace, right time.
You know, before you go anyfurther, the donation didn't pop
up, my last one.
So utah would thank you verymuch for the five dollars, but
it did not pop up utah.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I did already say thank you for that, but I'm
sorry it fell out.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Let me try this one it'll work now.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, I the window closed there we go.
So thank you, tamar.
Ten dollars for tamar bushappreciate it.
Thanks, guys, we know it's,it's.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
It's a quiet sunday, but yeah, I the window closed
area, so thank you tomorrow $10for tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Bush, appreciate it.
Thanks guys.
We know it's it's it's a quietSunday, but we do have.
We do have quite a few peopleon, so that's good.
Okay, so you're in, you're inthe, you're in the crotch,
you're at your you're at fourand rewind.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Oh so, you see, you do your duty for two years.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Oh so you did something at king's bay then you
go to the fleet, you go to theinfantry fleet.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Oh, that's right, yeah, right, so you do two years
, you got one year of school, soI'm three years in with two
years left.
I'm ready to go to the fleet.
I'm like I did my job, I did myobligation.
I want to go to the fleet.
I want to kill terrorists, likethat's why I joined.
I'm a new yorker.
I was like 17 years old when9-11 happened and that's why I
joined.
I'm a New Yorker.
I was like 17 years old when9-11 happened and that's what I
want to do.
I want to forward deploy, Iwant to fight this war.
My captain says nope, not yet.
We're extending you here foranother year.

(44:10):
So I got extended to stay inKings Bay for another year, okay
, and I was pissed.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Why did they?
Why they were just soshorthanded so shorthanded.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Okay, they were shorthanded.
They had already invested in me.
I already got my secret to mytop secret, so I had access to
different things that otherpeople did not have right, even
even people in my command didn'thave.
So I got to we, we.
The start treaties were like ahuge deal when the russians were
coming.
They would, they could comebasically anytime they wanted
and you would get a little bitof a heads up because they, the
russians, don't want you to moveanything.
But it was stupid because bothcountries knew everything about

(44:48):
the other country and it wasjust, it was dumb, it didn't
really, you know, do anything.
But but yeah, they extended mebecause they were shorthanded,
because what they started doingwas rolling back the security
forces contracts.
2006 because we had all thesebig battles that were going on.
You know, like in 2009 therewas marjah, afghanistan.

(45:09):
So you know, I think thirdbattalion, six marines went to
that.
They started rolling back onthe security forces contracts
and it was harder to get out ofit once you had been doing it
for so long and kind of had itdown because it's a pretty, it's
an important job.
Sure, you know I'm not animportant person, but the job
was very important.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
no, but that's no.
I disagree, but that's okay.
Yes, I understand what you'resaying because you're humble
yeah, so, so, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Then I got stuck back .
Then I went to the fleet and Iwent on a mu.
That was really it.
That was the extent of myservice they wanted me to tell
me what a mu is.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
It's?

Speaker 3 (45:41):
a's a Marine Expeditionary Unit.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Were you actually fleet.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
It was the 22nd Mew at Camp Lejeune.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Okay, so you're on Camp Lejeune, so you didn't do
any time aboard a vessel.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, I was on a ship with Amtraks and I couldn't
tell you the name of the ship.
It was like 20 years ago, now18 years ago, so it was about an
eight-month deployment.
So it was an LCC.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
LCC vessel, larger vessel.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I'm a Marine, I don't know.
They say, sit on this boat andI go okay, smart, so yeah.
But it was a MarineExpeditionary Unit, so there was
aircraft carriers there.
It was the first one that everthey put Ospreys on Osprey
helicopters.
But I wasn't on that.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I was on another ship that had amtrak's.
Okay, so first ship it's, itcould.
It could either be an lcc or itcould be carrier base.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
So yeah, I don't know , I don't, I don't know either I
went on the ship.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Where were you stationed?
Camp lejeune okay so so thiswas the 22nd meal.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Okay, and what?
2009?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
fleet.
Do you know what the fleet was?
No, I don't remember.
Okay, yeah, I don't that.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
That was at the end of my enlistment.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
man, I was ready to get out and I was like yeah.
Yeah, I don't remember half theshit I did, yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
But it was Amtrax and we dropped out of the Amtrax
out of the ship, just topractice all the time.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Ran around in circles circle where there were packs
on training for nothing, so youhad a flat deck.
Yeah, probably an lcc it's amcould be.
Yeah, probably an lcc am.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah, does the does the funny story yeah, go.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Does the wasp sound familiar to you?
No, does the kitty hawk soundfamiliar?
Yeah, maybe kitty hawk soundsreally.
That's she was.
She was a.
She's a carrier base.
Yeah, so you were.
You were at a camp lejeune Idon't, I don't know where, what,
what, what fleet that would be?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
it doesn't matter, go ahead, yeah, funny story, funny
story I was young, cocky marine, right, don't?
Navy guys are a bunch of wimps,pussies, whatever, whatever,
whatever.
Because I was young and dumband had never been in the navy.
Then I was on ship and whenyou're on a ship, it's kind of
like messing with the marines atwar, because the navy's in
their element and they're doingwhat they're doing.

(47:47):
So there was an example.
This was 2009, so this iscaptain phillips era pirates,
horn of africa.
There was some sort of alertthat went off that the entire
marine expeditionary unit washeading towards the direction
because some oil tanker we theygot some word that was being
overrun by pirates, so they weresending us out there to handle
it.
They weren't sending us outthere to handle it, they were

(48:08):
really sending the Navy outthere to handle it.
So they did what I think, if Iremember correctly, was called
restricted to quarters.
Does that sound familiar?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yep Confined to quarters.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Confined to quarters.
Marines were not allowed toleave their racks.
Get downstairs, wear on alert,just stay the hell out of the
navy's way.
I, as a young, dumb marine, didnot do that.
So I was running up the stairsto get up at the deck and all of
the navy guys are running totheir battle stations.
They're running the battlestations.
The lights are going off and Igot my ass kicked by probably

(48:40):
about 10 of them.
I caught like eight elbows tothe face just because I was
standing on the stairwell and Igot the shit kicked out of me
and had to go back to the squadbay and pretend like the Navy
just did not beat my ass.
So that's a true story.
So ever since that moment, Ihave the highest respect for the
Navy, because when you see theNavy in their element, it's a

(49:01):
different story.
They're not land guys.
They're not pussies either.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, no, I mean, and listen, you don't, you don't?
You know, Marines are adifferent breed.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
But they have a different mission.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
There's also you put a Marine on a boat, he gets his
ass kicked See well, there,there's four groups in the Navy
that you probably just reallydon't want to fuck with, and the
first one is Seabees Seabeesthere's four really rates that
wear BDUs, that used to wearBDUs instead of dungarees in the

(49:32):
military Navy.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
One is Seabees and they wear camo BDUs Battle dress
uniform.
Right Then you look CorpsmanAlso Not pussies train with a
fleet marine force.
They're not wimps.
Corpsmen are badass and,honestly, most Marines will tell
you that they will lay downtheir life for their corpsmen
because they keep them alive.
Next is special forces, so itcould be UDT team guys, special

(49:57):
boat units, sdv teams, all BDUwearing.
And then intel guys, dependingupon what their job is, intel
right.
So if they were attached to nswag, these are guys who, who
train, they jump out of planes,they fucking swim, they hang out
with the team guys, they, they,they deploy with the teams.
Very different type of of ofnavy guys.
If they were bdus back then youknow they had a level of

(50:18):
respect, but they're not forwarddeployed.
I mean, these are people whoare not necessarily outside the
wire.
They might be on a base, itmight be on a fob, but
completely different.
But most marines were veryrespectful of the navy guys.
They understood that most navyguys, most guys who had been to
sea, is that dixie cup wearingshit bags are not necessarily

(50:39):
what all the the navy guys.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, by the way, there's LHDand LHAs as well.
So you were either on the WASP,which I thought that was the
first thing that came to mindthe Iwo Jima, the USS.
I would have remembered the IwoJima or the America, the San

(50:59):
Antonio or the Gunston Hall, andthose were the only OSPRI base.
It was 2009.
Or the Gunston.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Hall and those were the only Osprey base and, like
an LP, it was the first one itwas 2009.
It was the first Mew ever withOspreys which was not exciting
because they were famous forbeing death machines.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
It was probably the Wasp, but could have been
attached to the Kitty Hawk grouptoo.
So that's Naval AmphibiousForces and I think that's out of
Norfolk, so it would beattached.
Then you would be out ofnorfolk but you could be
stationed in in north carolina.
But it was attached to norfolkwould be your deployment station
right it doesn't matter.
The point is is I'm justinterested from a standpoint of,

(51:35):
I know, a lot of guys on thewasp but the thing you know what
I remember the most, what aboutbeing on ship?

Speaker 3 (51:42):
how long the chow hall line was, oh, God, it's
fucking horrible.
And it was like an hour and ahalf to get chow easily.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Now, were you out to sea?
Yeah, oh, then you definitelyunderstand.
And after the first 30 days,forget about it.
You're on powdered eggs.
There's no more.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah, all the good stuff.
They hit because you can'tstore the fresh food but navy
food is amazing no, I'm notcomplaining compared to marine
corps food it just sucks.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, after 30 days, once you're 30 days deployed, it
sucks.
Now, sub is completelydifferent.
Yeah, that's different.
Sub is different.
Sub food is always good becauseit's all high protein and it's
all they eat.
The quality shit, yeah.
But if you're on, if you're ona, even on a carrier, you're on
powdered eggs and powdered milkafter 30 and that just sucks
yeah 90 day deployments are youget six months.

(52:25):
Then you're just like it'shorrible.
You're just like please go intoport and I'll sleep with a lady
boy.
I mean, it's that bad you're.
You're sick of fucking yourbuddy in the rack, so you're
you'll hit anything I know twodollar make you holler.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Love you long time.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
You're like I don't know crabs, I can get rid of
them, just shave whatever.
I Whatever, I'll sleep withanything, but see they closed.
Subic Bay, hong Kong, wasessentially the best districts
in Hong Kong were cut off.
So when I was in, it kind ofwent sterile and we were in 95,
96, 97, we ran security forcefor the Hong Kong takeover.

(53:03):
So when it went back undercommunist rule and left England
rule we ran the security taskforce.
That's another reason I thoughtmaybe we might've cross
pollinated because we ransecurity for for that, the, the,
the Hong Kong take takeover.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
No, we, so we did cross training with the British
Royal Marines.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Oh, so did we yeah because they have that.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
We did it in the highlands of Scotland.
Yeah, so we went to.
I went to mountain warfaretraining with the British Royal
Marines and those guys arefrigging hardcore.
Yes, they are.
I would definitely say they'retier two level.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, we did Shanghai Marines too, so we did four
Shanghai Marines, and that'swhere we did ours with them, we
climbed a mountain a day for sixweeks straight.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
So we've done some of the same we we cross-pollinated
now when you were in after Iwas in 90, 94 to 99 so 2005 to
2010 it's different militarythan than what we both were
served in two very differentmilitary very yeah, our, our
time was unique, but itdefinitely that that's kind of
reason like why I got out right.
So I definitely wanted to go towar.

(54:01):
I I wanted to fight.
By the time I could havereenlisted and definitely
deployed.
It was 2009.
Iraq was kind of winding down.
Afghanistan was huge.
I had lost so many dear friendsbecause I was in the infantry.
So the guys I went to boot campwith guys.
I went to infantry school withguys that were in security

(54:23):
forces, that transferred to thefleet that didn't get extended
for a year.
Even today I could name youprobably five dear friends that
have purple hearts that lived.
It was just a different timeand I got really the more and
more I learned because theevidence really started coming
out with the WMDs and all the BSthat the administration had

(54:44):
pushed forward to the people togo to war with Iraq.
It really kind of when I hadthat personal connection with
those people that are goneforever and like for what.
You know, this wasn't a PearlHarbor moment.
You know, with Iraq I meanAfghanistan's a different story.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Well, right, I think most people who served would
would tell you, especially OIF,oef, that that the mission was
completely different than thefirst Gulf.
Even even the even first Gulfwas kind of like what are we
doing?
But but I think most peoplewill tell you is is that people
became disenfranchised very,very quickly with those two

(55:23):
incursions.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, and you know that people became
disenfranchised very, veryquickly with those two
incursions yeah, and you knowthat that's was kind of one of
my motivations too, that if Icould have a voice maybe I could
stop that in the future.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
So, or at least aid in it so you got out and and
then, where from there?
What?
What was the?
What was the?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
so so, I got out in 2010, february 6, 2010.
Like I said, it was likegetting out of prison.
I still had my clearance, so Istarted working private security
.
I did personal protection workfor some pretty big people.
Then I kind of missed theaction, you know the tactical

(56:06):
stuff and the kind of thecamaraderie that came along with
it.
So I joined the sheriff'soffice.
I was a police officer for avery short period of time.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
How did you hate that ?

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I wouldn't say I hated it.
I would say that in this dayand age, to be a police officer,
you can't trust anybody, eventhe people around you.
When I was on, I was on aJacksonville, Florida I'll tell
you right now.
I was a Jacksonville sherifffor the Jacksonville sheriff's
office and Mike Williams was thesheriff and they arrested more
officers probably than theyarrested criminals on the street

(56:39):
.
So I had personal friends ofmine that got arrested because
they did you would do yourovertime or that you could work
a secondary job.
But if you messed up your timesheet by two hours, they were
arresting people for felonyfraud.
What a chicken shit operation.
Theft.
Yeah, his name is Mike WilliamsLook him up.
Yeah, so that's kind of how itwas.

(57:00):
So and I just was like and youdon't make any money?
I think I was making 15, 16bucks an hour or something like
that.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
It's not worth the risk.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
No, it wasn't worth the risk.
And I worked in Zone 6, whichwas actually in the police
department.
It is known as one of thecommerce sides.
But there's an area that'scalled Papa 1.
That's down by off of Moncrief,like where Moncrief and Lem
Turner are.
The Papa 1 area gets prettyhairy.
So I was in some hairysituations and it was actually

(57:30):
me and my partner.
We were kind of talking onenight.
It's like can you believe?
Like, what we're making?
And I'm like we're not doing itfor the money, I'm doing it
Cause, you know, I'm a frigginginfantry Marine, I'm an action
junkie, you know.
Right, that's what I want to do.
I don't know why.
I enjoy it, but I just do.
I get that adrenaline rush, so,but it just wasn't worth it,
you know.
And it wasn't worth it for thefact that I might get injured or

(57:53):
killed, like whatever.
That just comes along with it.
Right, that's the, that's the,the verbal contract that I sign.
And I understand when youengage in in actions like that
or a gunfight, like I'mcompletely accepted death at a
very young age, that I may nevercome home, or whatever Most
people do, yeah, and the oneswho don't usually don't put
themselves into that position,and if they get put into it,

(58:15):
they find a way to self-select.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Yeah, but it wasn't that.
It was the thought of gettingarrested for doing nothing.
Yeah.
Holy course, yeah, constantlooming over you and then you
know you never know if they'rewatching you.
It's just like I was, just likeI'm just done.
I lived my life in the MarineCorps, where they control every
aspect of your life, even whenyou can use the bathroom,

(58:37):
they're going to the sheriff'soffice.
Now they want to control yoursocial media posts, where I made
this decision that I was justgoing to be free and I was going
to live a life that wherepeople were not going to be able
to control me, and I'm going tosay what I want to say and do
what I want to do and act how Iwant to act, and if you don't
like me, then you don't like me.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, real quick, it's.
It's Olivia at the dumb show,not Olivia.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
I saw that it's not Olivia at the cum showcom.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I was like I think everybody wants to join that
mailbox ASAP.
Olivia at the cum showcom.
See if it's available.
I mean see if the cum show isavailable, that's a whole nother
, that's my only fans email.
I think you could probably makemore money in donations by
having the cum showcom.

(59:21):
So, olivia and folks, we have anew night and a new show and
it'll be on Fridays.
That wasn't me, I typed I'mshowing it.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
I'm aware, I saw, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
So, ryan, thanks for thanks for showing us when can
people find your podcast, beforewe kind of get into the the
politics of the side, so wherecan they find your podcast?
Tell them a little bit aboutyou and how you started your
show, and we'd love to hearabout that.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
So they can find me at Ryan F Samuelscom.
That'll give you a link tobasically everything.
I'm also on Facebook, twitter,rumble, youtube, every podcast
platform, apple podcast, spotify.
We're doing like a.
We talked about the beginningof the show.
We're going to start doing liveat 9 PM on weekdays and yeah,

(01:00:08):
so, like I said, I kind of likethe vaccine mandate.
I'd always been super intoindividual liberties and
individual rights and I've I'veread a ton Thomas Aquinas, you
know, john Locke, thomasJefferson that I re.
I got really super into, youknow, individual rights and kind
of studied very hard and got avery deep understanding of it

(01:00:31):
and that's kind of what my showis based around.
My show is kind of based aroundthat.
You know our government hasgotten way too big and out of
control.
If you were to resurrect ThomasJefferson or even the most
extreme examples, the Federalistlike John Adams, or he's not
even the worst, but AlexanderHamilton, who, by their
definition, was basically acommunist If you were to

(01:00:54):
resurrect him and bring him heretoday, he would say this is
completely insane.
What are you guys doing?
So that's basically the premiseof the show is that we talk
about how far government hasgotten out of control.
The things that they're doingnow violate your basic
principles of human rights tolive freely without infringement
, and yeah, I mean, that'sthat's really it.

(01:01:15):
We talk a lot of politics.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
that's what the whole show is about so founding
father, who is not even foundingfather.
Time period of of between civilwar and the American revolution
.
Of the person who is mostrespected who shouldn't be, and
the person between the Americanrevolution, civil war, of the
person who is the leastrespected, who should be

(01:01:39):
respected.
Give me your top two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Number one is Abraham Lincoln.
You hate Abraham Lincoln.
I am not a fan of AbrahamLincoln.
It's not a racist thing.
Go ahead and try and say it,it's not.
It's a government interventionthing where abraham lincoln
basically used his position ofauthority to stop states from
voting on either secession orcertain things where they were

(01:02:02):
opposing interstate commerce.
He would be my number one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Well, he suspended habeas corpus.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
He suspended habeas corpus yeah pretty important.
Yeah, and you know, use slaveryas a moral justification for
the things that he was doingCorrect, which was, which was
the main point of that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
But wasn't he honest about that?
Didn't he say the three things?
Is that?
They're not in any, not in anyhistory books no, but, but the
point is is that he was fairlyhonest about this he was yeah,
slavery would either destroy theunited states.
If I try to stop it, it'lldestroy the united states, if I
let it continue and if I donothing, it'll destroy the
united states.
So all three options none ofthem are are are really a choice

(01:02:44):
that I want to make.
Do you think he made the rightone?

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
You know that it's easy to sit here and criticize a
president right, no matter whothe president is, especially
Biden.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Yeah, he makes it easy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
But what I'm saying is is, by the time something
comes to a president to make thedecision, it's gone through a
lot of very high level peoplewho were unable to figure it out
Right.
So any president gets gonethrough a lot of very high-level
people who were unable tofigure it out right.
So any president gets kind of agrain of salt with that with me
.
I think he could have donethings a lot better.
I don't think that the CivilWar there's one thing he could
have done that nobody ever talksabout, and I'm going to bring

(01:03:21):
it up right, flag it, everybodyflag it.
And when you have aconversation with somebody who
talks about how great he hasasked this question, or bookmark
it, or bookmark it.
The Fifth Amendment to theConstitution.
Right, that's your right toremain silent, whatever you can
invoke the Fifth.
But it also lays out what'scalled eminent domain.
Now, eminent domain was acontroversial subject during the

(01:03:43):
Constitutional Convention.
Hamilton made the argument that, well, the government needs to
build roads, so the governmentshould be able to seize your
property, pay you for it andthen lay a road over it.
Right, that was the Federalistargument.
The Thomas Jefferson argumentor the Madison argument was no,
that's a violation of anindividual right.
The government does not havethe power to step in.
Regardless, call it acompromise.

(01:04:04):
It made it into theConstitution.
It's the law of the land.
Instead of going to war andlosing I don't know more people
than almost any war in historyLincoln could have simply
invoked eminent domain onslavery, purchased the slaveries
, freed them and then paidpeople fair market value for

(01:04:26):
them, passed a resolution thatoutlawed slavery, an amendment
to the Constitution, whateverthat would have been a great
alternative to war right itwould have been a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah, I think the result ultimately would have
been the same, because you wouldhave been leaving the South,
which was behind in innovationfor decades, and we saw that
because they didn't get into theIndustrial Revolution until
like the 40s.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Well, Jefferson talked about that when Hamilton,
Hamilton and Jefferson got intoan argument when, in front of
George Washington and John Adams, that the Treasury Department
was being established and ThomasJefferson's like I don't
understand why the United Stateswould need a Treasury
Department and they talked abouteconomics and finance and

(01:05:15):
Thomas Jefferson you can look itup, it's an actual quote Thomas
Jefferson actually predictedthe Civil War and said well, if
you do that, all the money andindustry is going to be
solidified in the north and allthe agriculture is going to be
solidified into the south andyou're going to cause a national
divide and that's exactly whathappened.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Financially, it would have had the same result,
because you still would have hadto replace slave labor and, and
and somehow indemnified it withpaid labor, which the south
wasn't capable of doing.
Technologically, they were 20years behind the north from an
education standpoint.
The same they were very muchrural farmers and it's what we
see with the Rust Belt todayversus the coasts is is.
This is always what you have.
You're going to have the haveand have nots and somebody needs

(01:05:55):
to do the labor Right.
So I'm with you.
I think it was a very difficultdecision for Lincoln.
I'm not.
I don't think everything he didwas perfect, but in the end,
killing Americans is is ahorrible solution to a problem,
no matter what happened, and Idon't think he was going to get
out of that, no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
And it was the behavior of the troops too,
burning individuals' homes,ripping up the railway tracks,
just massacring families andtowns.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Slashing and burning agriculture.
It was not pretty?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Yeah, it was not pretty, no, but well, none of
this would have happened if JohnAdams yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Fucking Hessians.
It's their fault.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
And the least appreciated, I would say
although people will tell methat he is very appreciated and
I would agree to a point buthe's also vilified would be
Thomas Jefferson.
To answer the second part ofyour question.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Yeah, jefferson was a genius.
He was a modern-day Da Vinciand Michelangelo for the United
States and does not get the justthat he deserves.
I mean just now, if peoplereally like study Jefferson, he
was an entrepreneur, he was anengineer.
I think he surpassed BenjaminFranklin in so many ways with
innovation and understanding ofof complex problems and complex
issues.
It just happened to be on paperand parchment and not

(01:07:00):
necessarily with a physicalinvention, but if you look at
Monticello, it's a modern marvel.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, and he engineered the whole.
Thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah, he invented the swivel chair.
The guys yeah, like I said,benjamin franklin got a lot of
love and so did edison, but but,but I think jefferson was one
of the most unsung heroes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
It's nice that we somewhat agree on that he tried
to outlaw slavery in the firstdraft of the declaration of
independence and he banged a lotof african-american females too
.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
He was sally hemmings that woman.
That guy got around and he, heliked the darker meat.
So you gotta say well there's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
So there's a deeper story to that.
Literally thomas jefferson andsally hemmings.
Sally hemmings was actually hissister-in-law, so his wife's
father had a child with hisslave and that child was sally
hemmings, so it was his wife'ssister, and when his wife passed
away he was completelydistraught and that's when he

(01:07:56):
started the relationship withher sister, because they kind of
looked alike yeah just mulattonick says I might be wrong, but
the south said war would occuras long as lincoln got elected.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Well, I think it's because lincoln's positions
really put the South in apigeonhole that they had no
choice.
Listen for anyone to say thatit was like diametrically
opposed, like the North wasrighteous and the South wasn't,
that's not true at all.
The South was in anuncomfortable position that the
North was 20 years before.
It just so happened to be thatthe North realized that their
modern innovations and theirconnections with Europe had the

(01:08:30):
ability to no longer needslavery for a means of
production.
Otherwise they still would havehad it.
The South was not in thatposition.
And by the North saying, well,you just need to come along.
And they're like, well, wait,we'll be posterior to you from a
financial standpoint, aneducation standpoint, we don't
have the infrastructure to dowhat you need us to do.
You need to supplement this andsomehow help us move into the
modern age.
And the North is like you'llfucking figure it out.

(01:08:52):
And they're like, no, we won't.
And so when people say it wasan argument about free labor and
paid labor, no, it was anargument about slave labor and
paid labor.
And the South did not have themeans of productions to replace
four million people.
It's just not something theyhad.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
The capability of doing it also had to do with
representation, sure, well, weknow that with three-fifths
compromise, three-fifthscompromise, yeah, so it was a
power.
It was power.
Who's going to hold more sway,right, right, and you know
that's.
That's one of the things thatthomas jefferson got a lot of
heat about.
I actually talked about this ina video that went viral because
somebody had asked me thequestion because I'm a huge
Thomas Jefferson fan.
And the lady's like, oh, he hadslaves.
Well, yeah, but everybody hadslaves, but Thomas Jefferson

(01:09:31):
hated slavery.
He owned more slaves thananybody else in the world,
especially when hisfather-in-law died and he
inherited all of his.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Stonewall Jackson was not a big fan of slavery either
.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
People think that everybody loves slaves.
That's not true and yes, someslaves were treated absolutely
horrendously.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Correct.
Yeah, thank you, fisher fromRumble Chat.
Thank you, fisher, for the $5.
You're welcome for the Sundayshow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
But to say that there's not a lot of slaves that
were treated fairly well wouldbe counterproductive to what
actually happened with thenamesakes that were slaves that
came out of there.
When you look at plowshares andyou look at land shares and
other African-American familiesthat were released and treated

(01:10:16):
somewhat as citizens should betreated.
There were many prestigiousfamilies who rised up and came
out of the North and even theSouth in some cases.
But yeah, there was.
I mean listen, slavery wasn'tgood for anybody but for anyone.
To sit here and pretend that itwas all african americans now.
It's a complete fucking lie.
The chinese were slaves, theirish were slaves.
The entire world was slaves.
At one point it wasn't just andafricans had slave traders for

(01:10:40):
god's here in the us before thecivil war before the civil war.
I mean, we had hundreds of years, and maybe let's make it sounds
like there's some whiteautocracy.
It's not true.
Slavery was everywhere, but wegot.
Remember this the first twocountries to to to realize that
slavery should be abolished wereboth white, that was england
and the united states.
England did it first and theunited states followed.

(01:11:01):
So can you give us some creditthat, yes, we might have done
some bad things, but we alsolearned faster than anyone else
in the world ever had before.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
So yeah, and I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
I never owned a slave and you got a free boat right
over here, so stop bitching somoving.
It's totally racist.
That was totally wrong and Iapologize.
I've been hanging out with ryantoo long.
Ryan, let's get into some uh,some other stuff.
It's great to hear a little bitabout you.
It's great to talk a little bitabout American history.
I love American history.
It means the world to me, andOlivia is just sitting here
going.
Okay, I've had enough.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Never in the military , so I don't have any stories.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Oh, do we have a question for our Sunday show?
I don't think we do, so we'rejust going to no, because it's.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
This is not a regular show, so we do not have a
question.
But we can still do a questionif you want.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
We just won't have a donation oh well, we're gonna
kind of have to considering thatI built the slide for that
anyway, we'll figure it out.
So there's some things going on.
So it's now 10 football teamsthat have male.
Now I I want to be completelycandid I was a male cheerleader.
Yes, I was what.
Yes, yeah, yeah, I was I was acheerleader was that before or

(01:12:07):
after or during the navy?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
I was out it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
It's funny.
Yes, I was a.
I was the us navy cheerleader.
I'd dress up and it wasn't forshellback, but it had something
to do with my back for sure youknow, they don't do that anymore
.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
They can't they're pussies.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yeah, I got my shellback coin.
It's right up there in the flag.
I earned it.
Fuck them, you have to eat thehot dogs.
No, no, no, that it wasn't asdegrading as it was, but yeah
there were certain people whowere kind of the whole
degradation and dressing up likea woman and transvestite
bullshit.
That was really like, in myopinion, east coast fleet.

(01:12:38):
They did some really crazy shit.
West coast was a little moregrounded.
We were already over there andwe were with the Japanese and
the Indonesians and, and youknow we're in Australia and
Russia and Hong Kong and Taiwan.
So although it was a littlestranger than than most, the
modern West coast Navy wasprobably a little bit less of

(01:12:59):
shellback process than than whathappened on the East East coast
.
But I mean, you still weredegraded and you still were a
Poliwag and you got, you know,doused and loused and treated
like complete shit.
I think it's awesome.
But honestly, it wasn't theintel guys they didn't fuck
around with too much but theboatswains, mates and like the
bb stackers and those type ofguys.

(01:13:20):
You know, just the roughnecks.
They were a little weird, butbut is is?
We kind of stayed away from theregular Navy.
You know what I mean.
We kind of we were, we were theprincesses of the Navy.
They didn't see us.
We were in a jick, most times12 hour shifts, and then we were
in Iraq.
You know we didn't hot rackwith other guys and it was just
a different type of Navy.

(01:13:42):
So, yes, I was gay.
So the, the, the, the.
So, yeah, I was gay.
So the, the, the, the.
So yeah, I did cheerleading atEastern Wyoming College as a
scholarship, is that I, after myNavy college fund which
basically took care of prettymuch 90 percent of all food,
rent, tuition there was like 10percent they didn't take care of
.
So I had a thousand dollar aquarter scholarship from

(01:14:06):
spotting in the Navy, thousanddollar a quarter scholarship
from spotting in the navy and Iwould go out or excuse me,
spotting as a cheerleader incollege and I would be a lifter
and a spotter and I would carrythe big we've got spirit, you
know the big megaphone and andthat was it.
And yeah, I did it.
But that's very different thanthe dance squad.
So everyone's like there's beenmale cheerleaders.

(01:14:27):
Four of our presidents weremale cheerleaders.
Yes, they absolutely were.
That's different.
This is dance squad Shake yourass, show your boobs, snap your
hair up and give me a sexy lookin the fucking eye as you eye,
fuck the camera.
That's different thancheerleading.
Ten teams, including the NewEngland Patriots, minnesota

(01:14:48):
Vikings, are now doing it, andhere is a sample of the first
game.
I'm just saying Louie'sbringing the heat.
Man Homeboy is bringing theheat here it is, he can dance.
He can dance.
Here it is.

(01:15:12):
See, there's the move wherethey snap their head up and I I
hump the camera.
That that's not, that's notokay.
I have no problem until there.
This is not something a manshould.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
Those are dance moves for females, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Yeah, right, this.
But, oh, no, no, no, that makesme feel weird, not happy in
pent, makes me feel very weird.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
He's a better dancer than me.
I couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
He's a fantastic dancer, but that's not good.
I don't want to see that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
I don't want to see that.
I don't want to see the archingof the back.
No, he looks like BrianKrasenstein.
Oh, you got to make a videowith.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
AI, now with Brian Krasenstein's face on it.
That's so fantastic.
We can do that All right.
So should this shit be infootball?
I mean, they're also doing theend racism in the background.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
They're doing that crap again you know, olivia,
your thoughts I, I really don'tcare.
I know that, but you have tocare, but here's.
Here's the thing they're openlygay football players in the nfl
.
Sure, there's a handful of?
Them okay so why can't there bea handful of male?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
why?
Why are there?
Why do we give a fuck if?

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
they're gay or not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I don't care if they're black or just score,
score or stop the other teamfrom scoring.
I don't care about anythingelse.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Yeah, I mean more power.
I mean, like I said, he'sbetter dancer than I am, my God
Great.
More power to him, and you knowwhat I was in high school, but
I am not in high school anymoreand more power to them and you
know what?
If you have a problem with itand you go to a game, you don't
have to watch them, and if youhave a problem with it and

(01:16:55):
you're at home, majority of thetime they do not show the
cheerleaders at home.
That's such a woman answer.
I mean.
Why should?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
it be there anyway.
The point is, yes, we cannotwatch it, we can boycott, but I
mean, I just started actuallywatching football again with my
son, I was actually excited, andnow I got to see this guy who
honestly makes me feel veryuncomfortable and makes me
question my sexuality.
Ryan, what about you?
Is this okay with you?
Do you care?
Do you not care?

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
I could care less, dude, that doesn't bother me.
I mean obviously, if he's acheerleader, that's how he's
going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
So any male cheerleader.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Fuck, he's a cheerleader, that's how he's
gonna be.
No, no, so any male cheerleader, fuck you.
Listen, I was a tight end, Iwas.
I was on a wide receiver.
Well, here's, here's the otherthing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
At least he's not transgender and at least he's
not saying I'm a girl and I'mgonna be a cheerleader, and he's
.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
He's not dressed, he's not wearing a fucking
g-string, not wearing the highthe knee high boots, he's not
wearing the skirt.
Same thing he's not wearing thehigh the knee high boots.
He's not wearing the skirt.
I said the same thing he'sdressing like a guy and just
because he can dance and he'sgot the moves and you know what,
he's probably more femininethan half the cheerleaders on
that team anyway.
So every girl needs a reallygood gay best friend anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
So but is he in the locker room?

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
I anyway so.
But is he in the locker room?
I'm guarantee he's in thelocker room because, honestly,
if he's very, very gay, none ofthose women care, because most
gay men have better fashionsense than women anyway.
So it's it's unspoken rule.
Women need a gay best friendI'm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I don't think the women care, as long as he
doesn't fuck the players,because that's what they're
trying to do.
Right, they do that for 125 agame so they can somehow
possibly like put a put a ringon one of those football players
finger.
That's really what they'rethere for yeah, they're not
allowed.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
The nfl cracked down on that yeah, but that's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
But you might both know what, what, the what is
going.
Where are you going again?
Oh my god, women, so the, thehere's the thing.
Yes, the nfl cracked down onopen dating, but it still
happens.
I mean well, yeah.
So kind of like the militarytoo.
So we don't care.
So we're we're pro, do whateveryou want.
We don't watch the cheerleaders.

(01:18:56):
We probably turn it off and goget a beer and Buffalo wings
when that shit's on.
Anyway, I would laugh about it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
And yeah, and there and talk about it, yeah, but I I
mean I don't care.
It's not like now if you put achick on the football field
that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Well, you know, right .
So dance away.
Shave thy legs, and you knowwhat I'm saying.
At least they're not wearing awig and have breast implants and
they're trying to be a woman.
At least this guy's like listen, I just, I just want to dance,
just want to dance.
So dance away, dude, dance away.
Here's a great comment of thenight.
Eric king says 1776.
United states was founded byabraham jesus believers.

(01:19:35):
In 1786 is when islam salemattacked the united states.
Less united states needs toopen up an elite military base
in israel.
Are you having a fucking stroke?
The united states?
Hold on, just don't know.
You're not gonna.
It's impossible, it's.
Are you having a fucking stroke?
The United States?
Hold on, just don't know you'renot going to.
It's impossible.
It's literally an enigmawrapped into a puzzle, wrapped

(01:19:55):
into a crib key.
Well, this is undecidedprecisely because of Israel.
We don't need a military base inIsrael, which is why Israel is
so important and it saves usabout 6.6 billion dollars a year
in having an Intel apparatusthat understands human
intelligence very good Intelapparatus human intelligence,

(01:20:15):
mind you, in in a Saudi Arabian,middle Eastern style Muslim
area which is 96% Muslim.
So we don't know.
We, we, afghanistan and Iraqshould have taught you that we
don't know what the fuck we'redoing.
When it comes to humanintelligence in the middle east,
we are always behind, and howmany doors we kicked and knocked
that were wrong is like it wasliterally like just like lotto

(01:20:38):
we were.
Let's see what's in behind thisdoor.
Door number three is oh fuck,it's a family.
Let's go to the other door.
It's a family.
This door, it's a family.
This door, kalishnikov, it it's.
It was a crapshoot, so we don'tknow what we're doing, so you
don't care no, about that Icould care less.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Okay, now you know.
You put him in front of a groupof kindergartners talking about
who he is and what he does andwhy he is the way he is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
That's a different story so let me get okay.
So here's a great point.
So so let's just say what ifthis guy straight face, straight
, okay, and and they have, theyhave daddy day at kindergarten
and he comes up and he's likelisten, boys and girls, I'm a
dancer for the minnesota viking,is that okay?

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
well, I mean he wouldn't be there for daddy day
because he's not a dad rightright, but most likely let's
just make up, let's do whatliberals do and pretend let's.
Oh, he says he's a dad, sotherefore he's a dad you know
what would listen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Here's a great.
Here's a great example.
Let's say he goes to a localhigh school.
Would it be okay for him to goin there and talk to our
kindergarten class and say I'm adancer for the Minnesota
Vikings and I'm a guy.
Is that okay?
Is there anything wrong withthat?
Is that a big deal no it's notgrooming is it.
I mean, listen, if they're goingto do this, it's a gay guy who
wants to dance, let him dance.

(01:22:02):
Who gives a shit?
Victor Victoria Broadway playsnurses.
We've seen this in our culture.
Can we just be okay thatthere's a feminine males who may
want to do what's predominantlypigeonholed as a female thing?
Is it okay?
I'm all for it, I don't care, Ireally am with you, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
I yeah, well, there's a couple of there and there's I
know there's people listeningthat you're going to say but oh,
you know, ryan, I've heard youoppose men and women's sports.
Yeah, because there's a powerdynamic there.
There's sure there's anadvantage here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
There's no advantage here on this, this guy's not
taking yeah, this guy's nottaking gold medals away from
cheerleaders, he's just wantingthis stuff and they have said
that these guys beat out thewomen just because they were
better and more athletic andbetter dancers.
And this demonstrates righthere that men are superior
physically to women and that'snot to be disrespectful.

(01:22:52):
It just shows you men are evenbetter at sexy dance team moves
than women are, and that shouldtell you something.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
And let's just yeah, let's be honest about it.
I mean, let's just be honestabout it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
I seriously doubt that guy's going to go out and
throw for 370 yards with nopicks and have a 98.6
quarterback rating.
He's not threatening to be onthe team, he's threatening to be
a dance girl.
I think there's enoughpositions for dance girls.
All right, good enough.
This guy, on the other hand,shouldn't even have a license.
California CDL truck driverturns around in an emergency

(01:23:25):
lane on an open freeway 60 milesan hour and kills three people.
This one I know you're not okaywith.
Let's watch this and we'll addsome comment to it here in a
second.
I really love the UnsolvedMysteries music that they attach
to this.
It's kind of stupid, kind ofstupid.

(01:23:51):
Yeah, that is.
I don't care what the safetyrating is on that honda odyssey.
Airbags are not going to savethat.
First of all I want you tounderstand is that he is going
to go underneath the semi truckand that bottom of that trailer
is essentially a guillotine.
Oh yeah, anyone who is notducking at this point is cooked
and, based upon the speed andthe the look at how close he is.

(01:24:13):
I'm telling you right now, themoment that this happened.
There is no way he literallywas in what 200 feet there's no
way going 60 70 an hour.
you have two and a half secondsto react and stop and I don't
even see any smoke on the brakes.
He's gone and, of course, thisguy is just like what the fuck

(01:24:40):
just happened.
What happened to my truck?
Obliterate.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
It says a legal truck driver, does that mean he's an
illegal immigrant?

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
or does that mean he?

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
has no cdl that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
That's a great question.
He has a cdl.
It was issued by california,but he is an illegal.
He is not supposed to be in thecountry and was issued a cdl by
the state of california so wehave two problems here we do
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
The first problem is he shouldn't be in the country,
right?
The second problem is is thateven if he was illegal, he was
still issued a CDL, which isobviously their clearing process
?

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
is not that great.
Now somebody keeps saying thatthis happened in Florida.
It's my understanding that thisone was specifically in
California.
There was another one verysimilar to this, very that this
one was specifically inCalifornia.
There was another one verysimilar to this, very similar
that happened in Florida.
But either way, the question isis it doesn't matter where it
happened.
We're not blaming liberals forthis.
We're blaming the policies ofthe states for giving illegals
driver's license and CDLs tooperate heavy machinery this

(01:25:42):
case, a semi-truck on our openroads.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
And are they making it easier for the illegal to get
it so that they're employed?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Right, and is this DEI or whatever, but right
that's because that's what I'msaying we have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
It's like a two number one.
You had the opportunity toidentify the illegal and, you
know, lay down consequences forthem breaking the country's law
and entering the country, courtthe country illegally.
But we didn't do that.
Then we gave them a CDL towhere, even after going through
that, what's supposed to be avery rigorous process, that's

(01:26:14):
very strict.
I mean, drivers are held to avery high standard.
Truck drivers, theirdispatchers will literally pull
them off the road if they'vebeen driving more than like six
hours or something, and thenthey're mandatory to take a
certain break or something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
It's something that that's highly regulated you know
well, right, most drivers haveto keep a log book and, and,
yeah, and, for eight hours, andthen they have to pull over to
the side of road and some lawsare you ride for eight, you
sleep for eight, whatever it is.
Yeah, whatever it is and youknow there was old whether this
is allowed nowadays.
Now, with electronics andeverything is that.
There would be two logbooks thelogbook that you would have,

(01:26:51):
that you would show the waystations and show the check
centers, and the ones that youwouldn't.
What, what, okay, okay, is sheokay?

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
She seems fine yeah.
But that's why I had to vacatethe room for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
No, it's fine, I like breakups are hard.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Your daughter needs you.
It's like I'm there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Okay, so just for those of you that don't hate and
broke up with her boyfriendtoday, yesterday, and she's
she's a wreck, she's not doingwell, she's, she's all busted up
.
So how about we do this?
How about we go to quick breakand allows everyone to hit the
toity and I call it the toitybecause I was a cheerleader in
college.

(01:27:35):
I was in the Navy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
I call it the potty because I'm a nanny Yep, that's
what I use every day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Lisa was in Florida when she passed the wreck and,
from what I understand, he wasfrom California with a
California company.
All logs are electronically.
Okay, fair enough.
Yeah, once again, myunderstanding is that this was a
California driver with a CDLfrom California, and what state
he was in I did not know.
So thank you for telling me hewas in Florida.
That clears up a lot ofconfusion, but either way, he
was California driver.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
He looked like he didn't care afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
No, he doesn't.
He looks like, ultimately, thatyou know.
Listen, I don't know if hecared.
I'm assuming that he's a humanbeing and has soul, and just
because he's an illegal doesn'tmean he doesn't have a soul.
But what I will tell you isthat being an illegal immigrant
should most assuredly not allowyou to drive with a California
driver's license or anywhereelse, and it's absolutely the

(01:28:23):
sanctuary city policies ofCalifornia that allowed him to
get a license, and that'sbullshit and clearly at a lower
level, and that's that'sbullshit and clearly at a lower
level than everybody else,considering he killed all those
people.
Well, that's my point.
I mean turning around.
We've all done it, we've allturned around in an emergency.
You turn on on on a highwayfreeway.
I have, I'm not going to lie.

(01:28:54):
But the difference is, and thekey difference is, is I'm
driving something that weighs acouple tons, that has all the
ability to get out and maneuverand make that as least dangerous
as possible.
A semi truck going through ayou know 12 to 13 degree down
into a crevasse and then back upto a 12 to 13 degree and have
enough power not to get stuckand not have to do a a six point
turn.
This guy could not literallymake the turn and put himself

(01:29:16):
into a situation where he wasrunning a a death trap on the
freeway.
To me, the guy should be heldaccountable and should face
manslaughter charges.
Well, if he's in Florida, hewill, he should.
And then, yeah, yeah, yeah, theguy should be held accountable
and should face manslaughtercharges.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Well, if he's in florida, he will, he should.
And then yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
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Then we got to get this guy onthe road because he's going to
drive to florida today andhopefully not take anybody out
in a semi truck.
Did you bring us what you have?

(01:30:11):
A big truck, don't you?
I?

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
got well, not a big truck, just a regular truck to
what is it dually nah, it's a1500 silverado.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Oh, oh yeah, it's a very good vehicle.
Dodge, right, chevy, chevy samething, right, they're basically
all the same is che and Dodgeare the same, aren't they?

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
No, chevy and GMC.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Oh, that's right, I thought.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
GMC is like more of a luxury.
I used to have a GMC.

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I thought Dodge, GMC and Chevy were all the same.
No, no, that was Dodge.
Pontiac, and what were the?
Yeah, was it?
I don't know.
I don't know anything aboutcars.
I'm not a big fan.
I'm me either.
I'm a Honda guy.
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We were discussing what wewanted for dinner and thank god
we don't have to feed ryan, sowe already gave him breakfast
and that's about all he gets.

(01:33:40):
If you want to stay anothernight, I'll give you breakfast
again, but it won't be tammy'soh no, I'm good okay good, yeah,
I only eat once a day on thisdiet.
So is that true?

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
yeah, you don't.
So you're eating so much fatand so much heavy like I eat I
eat steak a lot of time or eggs,so you can basically have meat
and eggs that's really it andcheese.
So you just eat so much fatthat you're just not hungry.
Carbs make you like superhungry.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Are you doing any type of exercise?
So I have a philosophy aboutexercise.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Oh God, I was forced to exercise every day in the
Marine Corps and the policedepartment and now I just don't
do that.
So now sometimes I do, butnothing crazy, you still got to
move right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
You got to be ambulatory.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
You do.
But I mean we have a farm soI'm always out there walking
around feeding chickens, chasingducks.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Here's the thing Take the weight off and then,
ultimately, chasing ducks.
Here's the thing take theweight off and then right.
Ultimately, once you do that,you're probably going to have a
much more effective workoutroutine.
I mean, I was in your positionand the the thing that I did was
start the right diet, yeah,with a little cardio, and was
able to shed, you know, 60pounds.
Yeah, you see me now.
I'm in good shape, I'm not.
I'm not.
I don't have any fat on my bodynecessarily.

(01:34:53):
I mean, yeah, I've got littlebit, but it's not like excessive
and I take care of my body, butthere's.
So once you get to that point,you may be like, hey, you know
what I enjoy lifting weights orrunning or working out.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
I used to love it.
When I got out, I loved it.
I got huge, I was.
There was a point where I wasfreaking huge.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Well, you're a big dude docked at each other's
sides.
We're basically the same height.
Yeah, what's that?
Okay, she needs to eat.
Did she run today?

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
No, she hasn't done anything.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Tell her she needs to go do her run.
And pity is for the weak, tellher to go do her run.
Dad says run.
If she gives me any shit Igotta keep her.
I know, but she can't getdepressed, she can't quit.
She's doing so good, she's gotto get out and just at least do
her run and get some anger out.
I gave her a pep talk.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
I told her I was like you don't show him he won.
I was like you walk into thatschool on Thursday and you are
dressed to the nines and youwalk into that school every day
with your head held high.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Was he rude?

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
No, it was a very nice message.
She read me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
There is no cliff notes it seriously was like this
long and he just said there'sno chance.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
No, his was actually that long as well, so it was
very respectful.
What Very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Wait, did he say, there was no chance?

Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Yeah, he just said that he doesn't have the
feelings anymore, and it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Dude kids shouldn't date this is why.
So this is why they don'tunderstand what they're doing

(01:36:31):
and what they're getting intoand girls are so much more
advanced.
I have a theory on this is thaton the on this on the learning
curve, and I believe that theirdrop point gets there almost at
the same period, but they take amuch longer way to get there
and they ultimately get to thesame point as women, but they
take the long way around thebarn and it just takes so much
longer for guys to understandwhat girls get to very, very

(01:36:53):
quickly and I believe that hasto do with the biological clock
of women have to be able to havechildren, become fertile and
have a maternal instinct muchquicker, where men ultimately
their point is I'm just going tospread my seed and just going
to go and have as many kids aspossible.
The problem with that is thatthe emotional connection that's
required in a relationship, mentake a lot longer to get there

(01:37:14):
and they just don't have thatemotional investment until later
in life.
That's my belief in the process.
Whether that's accurate or not,I don't know.
I mean, ryan, what do you think?
Do you think men are capable ata very young age of
understanding the complexity ofa relationship, or do you think
it's just all about sleepingwith as many people as possible?

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
I think it depends on who you are possible.
I think it depends on who youare.
I think I think there's acertain natural aspect to it
which I agree, if you like,primal state, if you put us all
back in a cave.
But I do think that certainpeople do have certain
influences in their life from asociological perspective that
change or influence how theylook at dating.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
So like when was your first meaningful relationship?

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
So in high school.
So I'll give you an example.
My parents split up like before, like right.
When I was like I don't know,three or four months old, right
Barely saw my dad.
As a result of that, I wouldhave gotten married right out of
high school to my high schoolsweetheart.
So it was just for me it wasdifferent.
But were you?

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
ready.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
You may, so it was just for me it was different
ready.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
You may have got, but no, I would, no, no.
Well, that was my point.
You may, you may make thesestupid choices.
You know, I'm ready formarriage at 16 or 18, yeah, but
that doesn't mean you are.
My point is is I think that themale psyche develops
differently than like okay,every woman knows and olivia
will attest to this knows herwhite wedding and knows when
she's going to be married andwhat it's going to look like at,
like 10 or 12, and guys arelike we're naming our kids, like

(01:38:38):
I'm gonna go eat the poop inthe litter box.
And then, when we're 16, we'relike I want to nail her.
And women are like I want asensitive man and I want to.
They don't want a sensitive manright, well, okay, they once
again.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
I landed my wife when I started being mean to her.
I was friend zone my whole lifeand then I met her and I was
mean and now I'm married.
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
So it's like just friends like the guy who's just
like tinkleman so what do you?

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
what he's in his?
No no rate, no boombox in therain.
For me anymore, those days aregone.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
So what do you think, liv, is it true Is that women
advance quicker because of theexpectation of childbirth and
men take longer to developbecause the emotional attachment
isn't necessary to copulate?

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
I don't think it has anything to do with childbirth.
I think it has everything to dowith maturity level.
Girls mature faster.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
But why do they mature faster?

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
I don't know.
I can't give you the reason why.
I just know girls mature fastermentally and emotionally and
we've got the capability tounderstand human emotions before
guys do.
I mean?
Look at our children, look atwhat Hayden was doing at 12 and
look at Ethan.
I mean, hayden had her cellphone and she only got taken

(01:39:56):
away a lot once.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
And ethan, freaking, he's just an, he's a mess is
this the girl who called cps onus and?
Lied with over 37 pages of hate.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
That was all bullshit yeah, but there was some
outside influence on that one,so but here's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
I think my point is being lost is I'm not saying
that women are more complexbecause they're forced into some
sort of contrition to be morementally available for
relationships.
What I'm saying is is I thinkthere's a stipulation applied to
girls.
Is that when you have a child,there will be another person
involved in that processes andthey will be there to get

(01:40:32):
married and rear the childtogether.
I think that understanding forwomen is bred into them is to be
more open and accepting torelationships at a very, very
early age, where I think boysintroduction into the male
female relationship isintroduced by Pornhub, penthouse
and Playboy or Titty Macs andthere is a very kind of like an

(01:40:55):
innuendo or a taboo ondiscussing that with boys and
their parents.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
I think a lot has to do with it, as boys have two
heads and majority of the timeyoung boys think with their
second head.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
That's exactly my point.
Women are not driven by theirhormones.

Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
We are not driven.
There are some yes and when weget there, but-.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
Listen, I'm not saying women can't get freaky
deaky.
What I'm saying is it's not thepredominant thing that drives
you guys are like sex.
Oh, mongo want food, mongo wantfuck that's really what we're,
guys, and they're.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
All they're looking at is like she's cute.
I'd hit that.
Women look at men and they gohe's cute, but how is his
personality Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
looking for a suitor, or are you looking for a sex
toy?

Speaker 4 (01:41:39):
We're looking for a suitor.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Okay, we're looking for sex toys.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
And that's the huge difference.
I mean the guy in my school.
I mean I grew up in a verysmall school but he was the
cutest boy in school andeveryone was like, oh my gosh,
he's so cute.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Was this the one in the wheelchair?

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
No, is this the one in the wheelchair?
No, he didn't go to our school.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Was this the one black kid in the entire state?

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
in Montana.
No, he was not the hottest guyin school.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
You guys got him, didn't you?
Yeah, you guys took him out.
Yes, we did.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
So, anyway, I never thought he was cute.
Why?
Because he was the biggestasshole in the entire world and
I hated him.
I looked at personalities andthe guys I was always attracted
to in high school were not thecutest.
Other people would be like, eh,and you know what?
I didn't date very many guys inmy school, but you were

(01:42:22):
different.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
You were different.
You were completely like yourmother.
You were a glass menagerie.
You were untouchable andunbroken.
And then you got a little tasteof freedom and you turn into a
harlot.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Yeah, All of my serious relationships.
I mean you slept with likethree guys in three weeks.
No comment Cause you got thedates.
It was one week.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
See, she was, she was engaged and she she got.
First of all a guy literallyraped her because, I don't care
what you say, you were so drunk,he took advantage of you and
that guy, if I ever met him Iwould put my fist through his
face.
I just let you know you don't,wasn't?

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
all him.
It wasn't me.
I'm not blaming me.
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
my two best friends helped me there and understand
you're not emotionally damagedfrom that, because you were
willing and still on it, but youwere drunk as shit.
Then the next yeah, I used himfor four days too, so after oh
my God, I don't need to hearthis.
And then, anyway, the point isis that you got a taste of
freedom and you went the waythat most guys do.
Ryan, are we missing this?
Is it?
Is it just that womenphysically have to become more

(01:43:24):
mature because they they couldbe a parent and have a
responsibility?

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Yeah, I mean what you're saying is like the nail
on the head.
So they, they bear their regard.
When it comes to sex, men arenot going to face the
consequences right, or they havea higher, lower likely
likelihood of facing theconsequences of women, or their
it's going to be them, notnumber one.
It's going to be inside of themfor nine months and then it's

(01:43:48):
going to come out and where's itgoing to go?
They're good, they have it andit's their responsibility.
Good point.
So they're more reluctant andmore selective of the person
that's going to have it, not tomention the person they're going
to possibly have this childwith.
They look at genetics, right.
That's why they like tall guys,strong guys, defenders,

(01:44:11):
confidence, money, success.
Yeah, who can provide Powerproviders, because then that's
security and whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
So ultimately, we should take this guy out, is
what we're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Yeah, I don't know who we're talking about.
We're talking about Hayden'sex-boyfriend.
I said that the day I walked inhere we should just eliminate
him In the earlier Obama.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Let's just take him out the pig, all right.
So here is Swalwell, whobasically looks like he's had a
run of herpes and it's justnever going to give up.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
He's going the Elon Musk kind of thing with the
t-shirt and the jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
No, he looks like a homosexual Don Johnson, and even
Don Johnson looked homosexualwith his white and pastel
colored t-shirts.

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
I don't with his white and like pastel colored
t-shirts.
What's up with he every time?

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
he appears in a video .
He looks worse.
He looks like keanu reevesdresses and but just without the
john wick and the handsomenature.
But he basically said somethingtoday and, folks, it's going to
be our last topic because we'relosing money, like, like, like.
I am so discouraged after whathappened the other night and now
this.
I'm just like I'm just going togo hang our head in shame.
We're probably not going tocome on Monday.
You might not even see us for aweek.
We're just going to go into ahole.

(01:45:18):
Here is Swalwell talking abouthow he is going to bury the GOP.
The saying is that when someonesays someone did something
wrong or broke the law, thatyou're going to bury them under
the prison, which basicallymeans you're going to kill them
and bury them under the prison.
You're going to get rid of them.
Well, he says this about theGOP.

(01:45:39):
I'm not trying to be sensitive.
I'm just wondering is thisenough to call Secret Service?
Should we be this sensitive asthe left is?
Should we take offense to this?
Because to me, I think thislanguage is dangerous.
You guys tell me, especiallyafter we had one of our
presidential candidates andcurrent president with an
assassination attempt of atleast three that we know of and

(01:46:00):
two that were very, veryprominent.
Tell me what you think.

Speaker 8 (01:46:03):
In the earlier Obama years there was the, of course,
old adage that at this point isold when they go high, or when
they go low, we go high.
It seems that fighting firewith fire sort of meets them at
that low point, I guess, to usethat metaphor.
Do you have any concern, Folks?

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
I just got a commercial ad for boy butter.
I don't know, seriously, Idon't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Oh, that's mine, but seriously all that cheerleader
talk?

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
I'll be honest with you, does he have a tattoo.
This is matt on his no it's,it's, it's cyrillic okay but
this it says two guys it saysbuy one, get one half off.
It looks like both are gonnaget off.
To be honest with you, buy one,get one half off.
We miss, we miss you, so we'regiving you a little something

(01:46:55):
use code grab your offer.
Boy butter oh my god, gross, II'll be on.
Boy butter boners.
Buy butter, merch.
Can I be honest with you,listen?
I just want to be transparentbecause I don't hide anything
from my viewers oh my goodness,no, no let's let's be honest
here.
I have bought boy butter in thepast because it is the best all

(01:47:18):
natural non-water-basedlubricant known to man.
I don't know what is this shit.
Did you sign me up for this Liv?
No, that would be.
This was Ryan.
No this would be whoever'slistening.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
Do you remember when we were talking about my wedding
ring?

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
No, that's different.
That was a commercial done byGoogle.
Seriously, listen.
First of all, I want to saythank you so much that you think
that a 51-year-old man wouldrequire boy butter.
But I'm okay, ryan, do you useboy butter?

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
And do you know what happens in the field and the
Marine?
Corps stays in the field.
It's not gay if you're wearingboot bands.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
I think it's kind of funny how that came up when we
started talking about Swalwell,chinese spy fucker.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
We went from the cheerleader and then the second.
We hit Swalwell.
These guys were like these guysare definitely gay.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Hit them with it.

Speaker 11 (01:48:22):
This could overreach or it could backfire.
No, when they go low, we'regoing to bury them below the
Capitol.
That's what we're going to dobecause this is about protecting
democracy and right now, as yousee, dc has been militarized
and we were weak as Democrats.
Frankly, we passed underSpeaker Pelosi and the House of
Representatives in April 2021,dc statehood and what happened
in the Senate?
A few in the Senate refused tobreak the filibuster and look

(01:48:44):
where we are today.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
So, in order to protect democracy, we have to
kill our political opponents.
Ryan, am I summing this up,right?

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
Yeah, I mean he could mean it metaphorically.
But listen, the language of theleft has been this way right
For a long time and should we beupset by this?

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Should this bother us ?
Should?
Should our politicians, ourelected officials, who are there
to represent the constituencyand the idea of their districts,
be saying that they're going tobury their political opponents
under under the prison, so tospeak?
I mean, is that okay, or are webeing pussies?

Speaker 4 (01:49:25):
no, I don't think that's hold on ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
Ryan needs to answer this.
Yeah, I think I think that I'msuper listen, so I know you're
aware, matt, and maybe some ofthe viewers are not aware.
Aware, but on the congressionalfloor, the Senate floor, if
you're a representative andyou're speaking, you're allowed
to say anything you want, upuntil including threatening to

(01:49:49):
kill the president, no matterwhat, without fear of
persecution.
There's a reason for that theway that our country is set up.
It's set up so that if you everhad to throw over a tyrannical
government, you could.
Should an elected politiciansay that, I mean, if I, I don't,
I'm trying to figure out a way,you seem very you seem very

(01:50:13):
like you're conflicted over this, like I am like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
All right, let's do this, let's take, let's take
decorum, which is allcongressional.
Congressional representatives,whether it be state legislature
or Senate, are ruled by acertain etiquette that requires
a level of professionalism anddecorum at all times.
That is, to address the senator, state legislature, by their

(01:50:38):
title, the esteemed or respectedrepresentative from whatever,
and that things are supposed tobe handled especially
legislation, oversight orregular House or Senate rules
are to be done in a professional, non-emotional manner.
Is it okay for them to do this?

(01:51:01):
Yes, we know it's legal,because they're protected to do
whatever they want under therule of their job, to say
whatever they want, minusthreatening to murder people.
But doesn't that fall into this?
When you say you're going tobury your political opponent,
does it break decorum?
And then, is there a legalprecedent to challenge him,

(01:51:23):
especially when these people areprotected by Secret Service?
Especially the climate we're in, should this be looked at as a
legal issue or a decorum issueis what I'm asking.
It's a long way around the barn.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Yeah, I don't think it should be looked at as a
legal issue, maybe a moral issue, I would say I think it's nice
to actually hear a Democrat saywhat they actually want to do
and uh, which is wipe theRepublican party off of the map,
which is to lock up theirpolitical opponents, like we saw
them do with Trump.
It's nice to have some honesty.

(01:51:55):
Part of me wants to say, yeah,no, send them to the Secret
Service, investigate them by theDOJ.
You could interpret that as athreat, a credible threat,
whatever, just because I hatethem.
But I don't know, man, I thinkpolitical speech, you should be
able to basically say whateveryou want to say.
Fair enough, liv.
Yeah, I think political speech,you should be able to basically

(01:52:15):
say whatever you want to say.
Fair enough, liv.

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
Yeah, I think it's a decorum.
I think he is Maxine Waters'wingman.
In all honesty, he's taken someserious pointers from Maxine.
But it doesn't surprise mebecause the left has been saying
this for the last eight years,ever since 2016,.

(01:52:38):
It's just all violence and youknow their face, lock them up,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they have, you know,weaponized the political system
against the opponents and that'swhat they've been doing.
So it doesn't shock me and itdoesn't surprise me.
They do it in a way to whereit's just they're saying stuff
you know.
Right, right, I'm just you know, but it's just they're saying
stuff you know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Right, right, I'm just asking questions, I'm just
noticing.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
Exactly, it's definitely.
It's a decorum thing.
Why should our electedofficials be talking like this?
I mean this is who people lookup to, and I mean they're a
public figure, Okay, and I thinkthat they shouldn't be able to
talk that way.
I mean they do that theyshouldn't be able to talk that
way.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
I mean they do but they shouldn't be able to yep,
well, see, and that's listen.
This, but january 6th.
What a great, what a greatstatement, because this is ann
johnson, who's running foroffice, who is in texas district
134, and here is where the foois on the other should.

(01:53:37):
Now here's a Democrat andthey're all up in arms.
Governor Abbott needs to beimpeached for threatening the
life of Democrats because theyare all just supporting Swalwell
.
Oh, he's just using a euphemism.
This is this.
Come on, this isn't serious.
He's not threatening anybody.

(01:53:57):
And now Republicans are kind oflike are you serious?
Because this is what they'redoing?
Now All the Democrats aresaying that Abbott needs to be
impeached.
This is a death threat.
He needs to be investigated.
And you have to sit here andsay OK, if you're going to be
this much of a gaping vagina,how do we not fight fire with
fire and treat you the same?

(01:54:17):
Listen to this.
Tell me this isn't the exactsame thing, but even more
ludicrous, because there's noimminent threat here.

Speaker 10 (01:54:24):
Today, governor Abbott said that he holds a lot
more bullets in his belt that heis ready to use, if he has to,
against Texas House Democrats.
Let me be clear I'm your formerchief human trafficking
prosecutor in Houston, texas.
I've had my life threatened bycriminals.
I never thought I'd see the daythat it comes directly from the
mouth of the governor of Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Oh, give me a fucking break.

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
I'm willing to bet not a single criminal has ever
threatened her.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
I'm willing to bet that Abbott doesn't even wear a
belt because he can't evenfucking sit up, because he's in
a wheelchair and probably shitsin his Depends.

Speaker 4 (01:54:57):
It's amazing how figures of speech that they take
them so seriously when aRepublican says it.
But when they say it, it's kindof like when Trump said
bloodbath and everyone was up inarms over Trump said it's going
to be a bloodbath, which meanshe wants to kill everyone and
all of the Democrats.
They need to die.

(01:55:17):
Well, go back a few months andevery single Democrat and every
single leftist news station wastalking about Trump and saying
it's going to be a bloodbathwith Trump and it's like how
come they can say it but hecan't?
How come if he says the word,it means one thing, but if you
say the word, it means another?

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
Because what you're saying is dangerous to democracy
.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
That's why, exactly, it's called hypocrisy, and it's
amazing.
They are definitely the kingsand queens of spin when it comes
to words.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Seriously bullets in my belt, I've got an ace up my
sleeve.
I mean, that's basically whatthe euphemism is mean.
I just I don't understand.
We're gonna end with thisbecause, honestly, we need to go
miss.
Wayne county has been crownedand which state michigan.
Okay, michigan, and I justwanted to show you listen.

(01:56:12):
I we're talking aboutrelationships.
Ryan's like geez, I thoughtwe're going to talk about things
that were actually important.
Knock it off.
This is important.
It's Sunday.
We have to demean people.
Here is Miss Wayne County.

Speaker 11 (01:56:23):
Hello, my name is Amira.
My service initiative is StepUp and Serve, and I am your new
Miss Wayne County.
Hello, my name isn't hairstyle.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
A category isn't not being fr.
Hello my name is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
Isn't hairstyle a category?
Is it not being frumpy?
Isn't the bathing suit likepart of this process?

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
I mean At least okay.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
No, I'm wondering.
If no, don't even do it Liv.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
What do you think I'm going to say?

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
I don't know, but it better not be any defense of
this shit.

Speaker 4 (01:56:48):
No, it's not Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
I was going to say I wonder if for part of her
evening gown she wore a vest.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
I'm just curious.
Here's her wearing a niceensemble with acid thrown on her
face.
Also also mad props.
At least she doesn't have adick and but that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
But that's not the point, right?
I mean, okay, she's not a guy,but does miss teen.
This is not a guy Does Miss Teenwearing a full burqa and a
headdress.
Is this where we are?
Is this the inclusivity that weneed?
Because if any of those teenswent to Gaza or went to Egypt or

(01:57:27):
went to Morocco, they would allbe murdered and killed.
So do we really want to goahead and say that inclusivity
needs to happen for the muslimreligion?
I don't know, I'm confused.
I mean, what do you think?
You've you've seen it, ryan?
What are your thoughts?
You think this is okay?

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
I mean, I'm all about freedom of religion, right?
Let me preface that sure, butif your religion requires you to
wear a headscarf and you orcover your body fully, right,
fine, great.
But if there's a competitionthat requires you to wear a
bikini, then you, we're notgoing to adjust the conversation

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the the competition for yourreligion.
That's my point, becausefreedom of religion is freedom
to practice it withoutpersecution, not freedom to be
included in everything becauseof your religion.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
And it's protection against the government
persecuting you.
It's not me owning a privatecompany being forced by the
government to include you.
That's the line that getsblurred primarily by the left
it's not even the fact thatshe's muslim.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
You want to be muslim ?
That's fine.
Take your headdress up, wouldyou?
Do?
You really believe that if anyof those girls who were not
muslim dressed in that garb,that they would have been
considered if they weren't?

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
no, no, and she, actually, she appears to be
quite on the heavy side yeah,well, that's my point, she might
identify as right I said shewas frumpy and I said okay, so
so I would have went withmorbidly obese, if you want, if
you want to go that maybe, maybeit's her level of intelligence,
okay, well, if you want to saythat, that that it's her

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intelligence, then there aremany pageants out there that are
based off intelligence, notbeauty, and I was in one of them
in high school.

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
Yeah, but even her intelligence.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
It's like listen, you wear a burqa and you're told
that if you speak out against A,b and C, you believe in Sharia
law.
You believe that you should bewhipped and caned.
If you go ahead and speak outagainst your husband, that he
can be a philanderer, but if youeven have anyone touch your
skin that you can have acidthrown on it.
I don't know if thatdemonstrates intelligence.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
yeah, but in islam that this being even part of
that, would not be acceptable,even if you were the whole car
that's my point.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
If you go, even her, if you were to step foot in any
muslim country outside of, maybe, saudi arabia, you're probably
going to be executed most ofthose women can't.

Speaker 4 (01:59:57):
They leave their house three times in their life
when they're born, when they getmarried and when they die.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
Otherwise they're in their house, and when they do
leave the house, they have to beescorted by a man exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
I mean, and yeah, I, I don't, I don't, I don't get it
it's.
I think I'm on the up here with.
I was with the diabetes barbie.
Why in the world do doeseveryone have to be?

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
included.
Why does everyone deserve afucking trophy?
Everything, yes, why?

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
does.
I am so adamantly against nochild left behind.
I'm so yes, against that inevery single way, and I blame
bush for that, and that is wherewe get all the stupid dei and
inclusivity.
That's where we get that, theno child left behind, because
that's this generation that'sgrowing up and I think it's
absolutely ludicrous that thisis happening we are 100 for

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calling out bush, obama andclinton for a million muslim
deaths.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
We're all about it, though there's war crimes.
I don't agree with half thatshit that took place, but we
also can sit here and say that amuslim has who's who's a devout
muslim who believes in headcoverings and and not just that,
because there's pakistanis andthere's sheiks and there's other
religions, not just muslimreligion that believes in in
these ceremonial dresses.

(02:01:11):
I don't think a nun should bein a beauty pageant, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
Nor will you ever see a nun in a beauty pageant.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
That's correct.
Yeah, and here's the otherthing.

Speaker 3 (02:01:20):
Because a nun is going to say I'm not going to
put my body on display becauseGod would not approve of that,
because this is deeply againstmy religious values.

Speaker 4 (02:01:28):
And also a lot of those Middle Eastern women won't
even they never getphotographed.
They don't allow it.
They don won't even they.
They never get photographed.
They don't allow it, they.
They don't want to bephotographed and their husbands
won't allow it.
It's just something againsttheir culture.
So why are you out there doingthis?

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
I, I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm.
I think it's ridiculous, thankyou.
Thank you for salvagingdonation, at least a little bit
can you?
Can you imagine the eveningwear competition in a in a, in a
stylish black burka no in astylish suicide vest made with
composite C4 and marbles is Imean, come on, it's just a
little too much.
Thank you for salvaging.

Speaker 4 (02:02:03):
I do have to show this one and recycled oh fudge,
it's recycled from Gaza, so youknow.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
It's great You're such a horrible person.
Olivia, my God, last one.
We have to do this.
I have to do this one becausewe talked about religion Today.
I guess I just hit on all thesocial topics.
There's very little.
At least we had a conversationabout the military and the
founding fathers.
That was somewhat intellectual,but we're going to do this too.

Speaker 9 (02:02:27):
How queer was Jesus?
He was an observant Jew.
An observant Jew, but he was 30years old, no wife, no job,
hung out with 12 other dudes.
That's pretty queer, oh my GodQueering.

(02:03:01):
The Bible takes Jesus and otheroutsiders and religiously
stigmatized folks in the pastand juxtaposes them with
contemporary queer folks andChristians, realizing that,
despite our past culturaldifferences, sexual and gender
differences, that we sharesimilar histories of
out-of-placeness or vilifiedsexualities and gender
diversities, jesus' kingdompractice is queer in the sense

(02:03:28):
it questions identities andblurs distinctions and blurs
distinctions.
Luke presents Jesus as leavingthe patriarchal household and
challenging both culturalhierarchies in his egalitarian
meals, transgressing genderroles and radical inclusion of

(02:03:51):
outsiders.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
You know what I'm waiting for.
Oh my God, yeah, go ahead.
I'm waiting for the freakinglightning strike to come down
and hit him.
I'm waiting for.
I'm waiting for the freakinglightning strike to come down
and hit him.
I'm waiting for that the wholetime.

Speaker 3 (02:04:00):
Jesus also talked about false prophets.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
Jesus also flipped over tables and turned an entire
city to salt and, if I'm notmistaken, just to make sure his
whole point about diversity waspredominantly based on wealth
and slaking lust for individualsuccess versus the collective
good of people.
I don't remember Jesus talkingabout thou shall suck cock.

(02:04:27):
I'm pretty sure that wasn't oneof Jesus's messages.
I mean, I could be wrong.
Was that in the New Testament?
Or the, or the, the newtestament that I didn't read?
Somebody, somebody, somebodyexplained it to me.
What am I missing?
I mean, seriously, is this okay?
Is this okay?
It's not okay.
Is this, is thisre-envisionment history?

(02:04:47):
Is that what?

Speaker 3 (02:04:48):
that's what it is, and that's what the left does.
So the left tries to takehistory, twist it how could we?
And use it for their ownpersonal political gain.
So this guy's like there is noway on planet Earth you can make
an argument that Jesus is queer.
God is queer, jesus is God.
There's absolutely zeroargument that you can make.

(02:05:08):
None, he wore a robe, justbecause he wasn't married.
He had sandals.
When was the last time you sawa grown man wear sandals?

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
If he was gay, he would have worn socks with those
sandals.

Speaker 4 (02:05:18):
I'm just saying I mean if the whole argument is he
was not married and didn't havea wife, well, that would make
Bill Maher and Mike Rowe gay aswell.
Correct, because they'reforever bachelors.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
Yeah, Mike Rowe is not gay.

Speaker 4 (02:05:28):
Exactly.
Neither is Bill Maher.
I mean, just because you choosenot to get married is not.

Speaker 2 (02:05:34):
Ryan, you're not married, are you?
Yeah, I'm married.
Shit, I'm sure you're a gay, soyou're right.
I mean, this is just ridiculous.
It's just inclusion.
This isn't inclusion.
This is literally fairy tales.

Speaker 3 (02:05:45):
But the revisionist of history has been a very
successful strategy by the left,right, and that's why they
gained so much power, primarilythrough our, our school system.
I say this all time.
I'm not sure if this is myquote.
I've said it so many times thatI'm going to to claim it.
I could be wrong, but thebiggest mistake that we ever

(02:06:06):
made a citizens is to allow thegovernment to teach our children
, because all they taught themis a pro-government, revisioned
version of history and and it'sprimarily taught and ran by the
Democrats.
That's why you can't send yourkid to Harvard, which is
supposed to be thisworld-renowned school the
biggest historical, smartestpeople on Earth have ever gone
to, and they come out wanting tochop their balls off.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
Yeah, it's a good point Ben.

Speaker 3 (02:06:30):
So we got away from the.
So we used to have the peoplelike Thomas Aquinas, thomas
Jefferson, george Washington,even Hamilton, john Adams.
As much as I disagree with someof them politically, they all
have a core base of educationand that's the classical
education, which starts off withgrammar, logic and rhetoric and
then goes off to subjects likescience and math and all of that

(02:06:53):
.
But they learn the core basisand that's what we took away
from our school system.
So they just get taughtpropaganda.
My daughter is 14 years old,she is a freshman in high school
and I said so what history?
Do you have history class?
No, like you, don't.
You have zero, you do not takea history class at all.
Nope, and I thought she wasjust poking me because I'm a

(02:07:17):
history guy and that's all Iwant to talk about and she never
wants to talk about it.
So I go on her thing and I lookthere is not one history class
Really, and this is Florida.
Wow, it's insanity.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
I just have a problem with whether it's the Daughters
of confederacy or whether it'smaoists or or it's modern day
liberals thank you, jennifergarlett yeah, thank you,
jennifer.
We saw, jennifer sent me a linktoday.
I'll watch it later.
Thank you, jennifer yeah, I gotit right for the show starter
then you know, even taking alook at at nichi or or darwinism

(02:07:50):
, secular humanism, the age ofenlightenment, you can go into
voltaireire, no matter what itis, there is always someone who
is trying to remove a people'sability for non-secular faith
and belief, people who don'tbelieve in secularism, they do

(02:08:12):
not believe in being removedfrom the word of God.
And this is what the left doesis that they try to remove hope,
they try to remove resistanceand they try to remove education
, and they do this by taking theguns, they do this by taking
religion and they do this bytaking your ability to document
and tell stories throughouthistory.

(02:08:32):
And this is what they did tothe Egyptians, this is what they
did to the Christians and thisis what they did to the
Egyptians, this is what they didto the Christians and this is
what they're doing to theUyghurs.
And this will continue untilpeople just say enough.
And these things areantithetical.
And no, not one individualthing is going to stop our
country, stop this republic, butif you continue to normalize

(02:08:54):
these behaviors, then peoplewill accept more of something
that they would not toleratebefore, and that's the danger in
all of this.
Olivia has to put in thedonations for the rest of the
night.
If you haven't had a chance todo that, please do so.
We're going to give Ryan thelast word.
I'm just going to do this onebecause we do have a couple of
minutes left and then, likereally I said, we have to go.
But this one is quick, thisone's just.

(02:09:16):
This is a thumbs up, thumbsdown.
Is this okay?
This reporter from WBRZ,channel 2 is desperately trying
to get through her report.

Speaker 4 (02:09:26):
I think I put it in right when he did the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (02:09:28):
Mr Hollandaise 3140, said I appreciate the bonus show
.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
Thank you so much, matty.
Yes, and thank you for donatingMatt.
We appreciate you.
Here's this quick one.

Speaker 10 (02:09:37):
Brown WBRZ Team 2 traffic While they were removing
Shit 2020.
Fuck.
Jesus.
Oh my God, While DOT, oh my God.

Speaker 4 (02:10:01):
Well, dot, that's so funny.
I'm sorry, but that's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
So if you're in England, that is going to get
you arrested.
Yeah, you're going to go tojail for that.
Yeah, the police will.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
It's catcalling, it's basically rape in London.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
You just raped her.
It is rape You're going toprison.

Speaker 3 (02:10:14):
We're going to put you in the guillotine.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
But you can legally rape your wife if you're Muslim
in England, but you can't honk ahorn or catcall or whistle
Quick thumbs up, thumbs down.
Let's Caesar, this, is thatokay?
Should you be able to do thatto a pretty woman and should it
be open?
You've got to do a not okay?
Thumbs up, thumbs down, is itokay?
And vote I?
I agree, man as live.

(02:10:39):
Would you find that offensiveif you were out there looking
like?
First of all, that dress isabout 17 times too small.
Second, is it a compliment tohonk the horn or do you think
she's pissed off because she'strying to do her segment?

Speaker 4 (02:10:51):
she's pissed off because she's trying to do her
segment.
But honestly, I she's pissedoff because she's trying to do
her segment, but honestly, Ithink it's freaking hilarious.
I've gotten honked at before.
I've had people call.
I mean Ethan was a baby andHayden and some teenage dudes
yelled out the window at me andI'm like oh my gosh, and it's
freaking hilarious and I don'ttake offense to it at all.
I think it's funny.
It's just me.

(02:11:12):
But I think it's funny, it'sjust me, but I'm not.
I'm thick skin.
It doesn't bother me at all.
I'm not offended in one way orthe other.
That was just me.

Speaker 2 (02:11:24):
Ryan, your thoughts, is it okay?
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 3 (02:11:26):
I mean, hell yeah, that's okay, this is America,
jack.
Like we can honk a pretty woman, like it depends.
You know, if you yell somethingvulgar, that's different, but
if you just hey, it's more of a.
I see the back of you, I likeit, I'm honking because I want
to see you look at me so I cansee if you're actually a 10 or
not.

Speaker 2 (02:11:45):
So you see him does?
She have a butter face and thenit's like she turns around.

Speaker 3 (02:11:48):
You're like, okay, then you give him another honk
acknowledging that's right, oryou just yeah, but leaning out
and be like I can lick myeyebrows.

Speaker 4 (02:11:55):
I've had vulgar things yelled at me throughout
the window.

Speaker 2 (02:11:57):
But listen, you know what and I will give you my
thumbs up why it is is becausewhenever I was at corporate
events and I would come out andchange and I'd usually be in a
t-shirt and a pair of levi's andeveryone had a few drinks the
the women in corporate.
I had women in h HR that wouldcome up and they would grab my
arm.
I've had a person from HR grabmy ass at the bar.

(02:12:20):
I've had girls sit there andtry to hit on me and walk up and
touch my shoulders or touch myarm and you know what, don't
give me the bullshit.
I had that happen at a DefLeppard concert.
Oh, my gosh.
I was raped at a Def Leppleopard concert by a girl in the
line getting beer from twowomen who were like oh my god,
look at these guys muscles infront of me and literally were

(02:12:42):
feeling and wrapped their armsaround and squeezed my chest in
line.
If I can handle that shit, youcan handle if we whistle or tell
you that you're hot.
It's a compliment.
If you don't like it, well then, maybe you shouldn't do your
video from there.
Sensitive Nancy.

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
Yeah, or just ignore it and move on.

Speaker 4 (02:12:59):
Well, I mean, I can understand why she's frustrated,
because she's trying to doshe's trying to do the video.
I get that.
Why are you doing it rightthere?
Probably because the story'sright there.
It's probably the story thatconstruct.

Speaker 2 (02:13:10):
I'm here with Channel 2 News Construction's happening
.
Back to you, Shep.
I mean, how fucking hard isthat?
Ryan, take us out of here.
You got one minute.
It's the celebratory one minute.
Let's hear from you, then we'redone.

Speaker 3 (02:13:20):
Let's do it.
Thank you so much for having me, man.
I'm so happy to see how faryou've come, how far you've
grown.
This studio is absolutelyawesome.
Thank you, everybody thatdonated to help Matt and, above
all, to remember that this isthe cause.
We're all together fighting thesame cause, fighting for our
country to make it better.

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That's why we are doing this,that's what drives us.
I was thinking about this, mattand I together, if you put us
together, we have a very decentfollowing.
We're not massive, we're notthe biggest guys in the world,
but collectively with guys likeMatt and the Dumb Show and
Olivia and Leroy and Amy andother shows like us, we're the

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ones who changed the dynamic ofthe country.
All of us together, not asindividuals.
It's the movement that wastired of just complete
oppression by the leftcontrolling every aspect of our
lives, but all of you have madeit possible.
So thank you for having me.
I appreciate being here.

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Make sure you hit that like,share and subscribe button and
we will see you next time.
We will see you next time.

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
Sorry, we're talking.
Go ahead, you done.
Yeah.
And right there, we can't.
So we can't.
We can't because we havesomething that we wanted to
present to you and we're gettingit right now.

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
So OK, I'll keep going.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
Yeah, say something else.
Ok, tell them when time yourshow's on and where to go to
watch it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:52):
So my show is Monday through Friday, nine o'clock at
night.
Moving forward, I will be doinga show what is today, sunday,
tomorrow at nine, tune in.
I don't know what the topicsare yet.
You never know.
Matt can probably attest tothis.
If you get all your topicslined up, like first thing in
the morning and your show is nottill 9 am, 9 pm, then all of a

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sudden at 5 pm somebody shootsDonald Trump in the ear.
That's literally what happenedto me one night and I was like,
oh my God, I have to scrap thewhole show and report on this,
obviously.
So 9 o'clock Monday throughFriday, 9 pm.
Follow on the podcast.
Leave a review on the podcast.
I got smoked by a bunch oftrolls on my.

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Do you have?

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
your reviews up.
I turn mine off.
Can you do that on applepodcast?
Yeah, oh no, not on apple.

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
Yeah, so on apple I.
I don't have them up onfacebook, but apple podcast.
I had a whole bunch of trolls.
If you follow my, follow mypage and you do comment, or look
through the comments the peoplethat make fun of me I roast
them right back.
It's actually a lot of fun.
I make t-shirts out it wasfunny.

Speaker 2 (02:15:54):
Some guy came on there and started trolling him
the other day and he, he, it wasan army guy or a marine and he
was a marine.
He was in a hummer, humvee yeahand uh, he was the driver and
he started talking shit to ryanand ryan posted his picture and
goes you're a driver, lol, yeahhe said that I was gay and I
said, well, well, you're adriver.

Speaker 3 (02:16:14):
Yeah, like, stop it, you're a pogue bro.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
So I want to say I appreciate it, man.
I've known you now for a fewyears, and how did we find each
other?

Speaker 3 (02:16:26):
I think we just kind of came across each other's
comment and it started withlikes and shares, yeah.
And then you I didn't have away to call into my show and you
had a way to call into yourshow and I said you know what
I'm going to call in?
Remember that that was likethree years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:16:40):
I think that was the way, the way it was.

Speaker 3 (02:16:42):
Yeah.
And then I called in and I waslike, hey, this is Ryan Samuels.
And you're like, is this theRyan Samuels?
I'm like, yeah, and you're like, well, put the phone down and
get on your podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
I'll send you a link yeah, well, that's you know, and
that's what, what it should belike.
It's the way it is.
I mean it should be.
People should communicate.
I mean, it's how damani and Imet each other.
It's how brian weaver and I met.
You meet online and, and youknow it's so, it's difficult
because you don't know who'sweird and who's a creeper.
You know, and and sometimesthere's some real weirdos in

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this business and it's nice tomeet someone who's somewhat sane
.
This is taking way too long.
I'm waiting to find out what's.
It's not awkward.
I mean, people will wait, butI'd like to get an update.
Can I have an update?
So they're obviously makingthis Nino who's Nino?

Speaker 3 (02:17:35):
There's some comments I think we missed.

Speaker 2 (02:17:37):
Maybe we can hit up now, cause usually they do
questions.
Nino America Nino's been on theshow before Nino, yeah, nope.
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So it means where ethan put itin the closet, okay, so I mean
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I mean I like I had it out.
Okay, what, what did you say?
You said something oh, whereare we vacationing at?
It's not really even a vacation.
We're going to virginia beachdeaf leopard on next sunday and

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This business doesn't allow usto take vacations there.
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We figured it'd be a greatpiece for your set.
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And then also also, it wouldnot be you here unless you got a
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Speaker 3 (02:20:21):
Oh nice.

Speaker 2 (02:20:22):
So there is your Don't Unfriend Me, show hat, you
cannot take a mug, piss off,that's all you get.
So we wanted to say, man, welove you, we appreciate you, we
can't wait to do this again andsee you again soon.
Liv, you're going to put thatinput in now.
Yes, I am, and we have one moredonation and then we're going
to go.
So, hey, dude, I hope thatgraces your house well, and we
appreciate you, dude, and wewant you to have a safe trip

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back to Florida.
If you see a semi truck in themiddle of the road, make sure to
break.
Yes, and that is pretty much it.
Thank you, kevin, for twentyfive dollars dollars.
We appreciate you.
We'll see you guys live.
What time are we coming back?

Speaker 4 (02:20:53):
Tomorrow at 7 o'clock Eastern 7 o'clock Eastern.

Speaker 2 (02:20:56):
We'll see you then.
Ryan, Say bye.
See you guys.
Thanks for watching.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.
Bye-bye.

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Enjoy it, dude.
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We can agree, we can disagree.
Just don't unfriend me.