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Could the fall of a brutal dictator lead to an even more dangerous power vacuum? As the Assad regime collapses, we explore the tumultuous landscape of the Middle East and what this seismic change means for the global political stage. This episode peels back layers of geopolitical complexity, highlighting the rise of a new regime in Syria potentially led by former ISIS members and the looming threats to vulnerable communities such as Christians. With insights from key players like Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, we examine the shifting dynamics between Israel and Syria and the broader implications for international relations, delving into the maneuvers of Hezbollah and the strategies of influential countries like Russia, Turkey, and North Korea.

We also lift the curtain on the hidden forces steering military decisions, scrutinizing the role of defense contractors and the financial motivations for endless conflict. This thought-provoking discussion brings in perspectives from Tulsi Gabbard and former President Trump on the urgency of ending wars and examines how these policies resonate with the volatile situation in Syria. We challenge conventional narratives, including controversial views on historical events like the Holocaust and the labeling of groups as terrorists. By questioning the dominant perceptions of conflict, particularly in Gaza, this episode invites listeners to reconsider deeply ingrained beliefs and to understand the complex web of global politics from a fresh perspective.

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Speaker 5 (00:49):
Hello Patriots, big news out of the Middle East.
Syria has fallen.
This happened a couple of daysago.
There's been a ton of breakingnews.
I've been trying to get to,this being one of them.
This is a big story for theMiddle East.
Bashar al-Assad, who was abrutal dictator this guy was a

(01:11):
complete animal, massacred hispeople, did not care about
anybody but himself, and he usedchemical weapons on his
citizens particularly I think itwas chlorine bombs, and many

(01:31):
others.
I mean, this guy was a totaldumpster fire of a human being.
He's not a good person at all.
The city, damascus, which isthe capital, has been taken over

(01:54):
by a.
Even you can't say that it'sworse, but at the very least
it's just as bad.
They're called the, I think theFree Syrian Army or something
like that, that is now in charge.
Their leader was a member ofISIS, I believe has been
designated as a terrorist by theUnited States.
This is a problem, but this isa typical problem that happens

(02:23):
in the Middle East.
No problem is ever good.
There's always problems andthey never seem to get resolved.
But we're going to go over justhow bad this is and what it
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So what does this actually meanfor the people of Syria?
Well, for some people in Syria,this is a good thing, although
all of them at this moment oftime well, not, I can't say all

(04:36):
of them.
Some of them are smarter thanthe others, but the one thing
about Assad is he was a brutaldictator yes, we've established
that, but he didn't go aroundmassacring Christians.
He was also pretty decent toChristians.
Let them live in peace for themost part, and this new group is

(05:02):
not projected to be that goodto Christians.
Now, what causes, just all of asudden, rapid descent of Syria?
Well, there's a couple ofthings.
Number one I said this on thisshow.
If you go back and you watchthe episode from when I was
talking about Hezbollah andSyria, from when I was talking

(05:24):
about Hezbollah and Syria, andif Hezbollah and their rebels
decided to attack Israel, israelcould completely wipe them off
the map.
That's exactly what happened intaking over the Assad regime or
allowing the rebels taking downenough of the defenses for the

(05:48):
rebels to advance.
Was that their intention?
I don't know.
I think their intention at thispoint is to protect Israel from
these extremists that just wantto murder all of them.
Now, assad has a very greatrelationship with Russia, which
is where he fled to.
He's not there.
If he were there, they wouldkill him.

(06:09):
He'd be hanging on a streetpost somewhere and he would be
completely dead.
That's not what happened.
He flew to Russia.
He's hiding out in Russia.
Russia normally helps protectSyria from this type of incident
from happening, butunfortunately, all of their
resources are tied up in Ukraine, so much so that North Korea

(06:35):
had to send troops to Russia.
As you know, russia is not amember of NATO, however, turkey
is.
Get that.
Turkey is a member of NATO,however, turkey is Get that.
Turkey is a member of NATO andTurkey is the one backing these.
Quote unquote freedom fightersAnytime you hear freedom fighter
, think terrorist when it comesto the Middle East.

(06:56):
So here is Benjamin Netanyahuwith his statement on the fall
of the Assad regime.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
This is a historic day for the Middle East the
collapse of the Assad regime.
The tyranny in Damascus, offersgreat opportunity, but also is
fraught with significant dangers.
This collapse is a directresult of our forceful action
against Hezbollah and Iran,Assad's main supporters.
It set off a chain reaction ofall those who want to free

(07:28):
themselves from this tyranny andits suppression.
But it also means we have totake action against possible
threats.
One of them is the collapse ofthe separation of forces
agreement from 1974 betweenIsrael and Syria.
This agreement held for 50years.
Last night it collapsed.
The Syrian army abandoned itspositions.
We gave the Israeli army theorder to take over these

(07:51):
positions to ensure that nohostile force embeds itself
right next to the border ofIsrael.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
So what Israel is doing is they're creating a
buffer zone between what theborder of Israel is and Syria.
They're pushing further tocreate more, creating a buffer
zone between what the border ofIsrael is and Syria.
They're pushing further tocreate more of a buffer zone to
help protect its people.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
This is a temporary defensive position until a
suitable arrangement is found.
Equally, we send a hand ofpeace to all those beyond our
border in Syria, to the Jews, tothe Kurds, to the Christians
and to the Muslims who want tolive in peace with Israel.
We're going to follow eventsvery carefully.
If we can establish neighborlyrelations and a peaceful

(08:35):
relations with the new forcesemerging in Syria, that's our
desire.
But if we do not, we'll dowhatever it takes to defend the
state of Israel and the borderof Israel.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
That's what Israel is going to do.
That's what Israel always does.
They do what's best for theirpeople and what's best for the
region as a whole, as long as itbenefits Israel.
Israel is extremely, extremelypowerful and well-equipped.
I made this call.

(09:09):
There was a lot of talk thatHezbollah was going to do an
offensive towards Israel.
I said it.
I said if Hezbollah does that,israel is going to use their air
force and just wipe the floorwith them.
And that's exactly whathappened.
They bombed the hell out ofthem to the point to where they
no longer have control over thecity.
Make no mistake about it.

(09:30):
These people who took over Syriaare not friends of Israel.
They are friends of Hamas.
They are they're Islamicextremists.
This is not a good thing.
This is not a good thing.
This is not some liberationgroup and now everybody's hey,
you're free, come out of yourhouses.
That's what they're doing.

(09:50):
They're telling people thatthey're free to come out of
their homes and you're free.
And if you're not wearing ahijab, you're beaten to death or
you're dragged by a car.
If you're a Christian, you'rebeing executed on the spot.
These things are happeningright now in Syria under this

(10:12):
guise of freedom.
Now Iran essentially controlsthe entire region.
They control the Hezbollah,they control Hamas.
These are all puppets for Iran.
Is this group going to be apuppet for Iran?
They could be already.
I'm not really sure, but Iwould imagine they are of the
same mindset.
Iran is a terrorist state.

(10:33):
Iran is not.
Iran's a legitimate country,sure, but they're an Islamic
extremist country that does notthink that you or I should live.
They don't think that if youwere a Jew, you should live.
They would kill all of the Jewsin the world if they could, in
everybody, and they would onlylive in a Muslim only world.

(10:55):
This is a part of Islam that isincredibly extreme and makes no
mistakes.
There's no consequence betweenwhat the Quran says and reality.
They're going to do what theQuran says, and part of what the
Quran says is to find and killthe Jews wherever you see them,

(11:15):
which is exactly what they'regoing to do.
Here's some footage of peoplecelebrating in the street who
don't realize it's the beginningof their own demise.
Yeah, celebrate, celebrate.

(11:50):
The grass is always greeneruntil you realize, until you're
on the other side of the street.
Now this group is Back byTurkey.
We already covered that and youknow Donald Trump had come out,
he made a statement, and thisis very interesting.

(12:11):
Donald Trump made a statementback in I think it was a tweet
back in 2013, and here it is.
Let me pull this up here.
Remember all these freedomfighters in syria, freedom
fighters in, want to fly planesinto our buildings.

(12:31):
This is August 28, 2013.
This is true Islamic extremists.
They want to kill you.
That's the reality.
There is no qualms.
There's no mistake about thatat all.
They want you dead.
They don't think you have aright to breathe on this earth
unless you are a Muslimextremist like themselves.

(12:55):
Tulsi Gabbard came out.
Donald Trump came out and madea statement saying that we
should not be involved in thisconflict at all.
He's going with a very anti-warpresidency, which I think is
really good, anti-war presidency, which I think is really good.

(13:18):
Um, I'm gonna play that uh foryou first, and then I'll play
the tulsi gabbard clip, but thisis the video from donald trump
that he put out on twitter andit says I'm hereby demanding
that the us do not get involvedin the conflict between syria r
and Iran.
This is not our fight.
We should not send one penny toDamascus or any other party

(13:40):
involved.
We cannot let the warmongers inWashington, in the White House,
succeed in starting World WarIII.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
Just as importantly, bringing back impoundment will
give us a crucial tool withwhich to obliterate the deep
state, drain the swamp andstarve the warmongers, these
people that want wars all overthe place, killing, killing,
killing.
They love killing and theglobalists out of our government
.
We're going to get thewarmongers and the globalists

(14:08):
out of our government.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Just as importantly, bringing back and this has been
a staple of his campaign.
So we should not be involved inconflicts around the world,
although there is an argumentthat we should be right.
So if this new regime comes upand they develop weapons and

(14:32):
then want to send terrorists tothe world to kill Americans or
Jews, should we stop that?
Should we prevent that fromever even happening?
That's kind of the debate isshould we wait until that does
happen and then decide to fightback or prevent it from
happening again and then decideto fight back or prevent it from

(14:54):
happening again?
And you also have to be carefulabout what you hear on the news
, because it's propaganda forthe deep state and the
warmongers, as Trump and TulsiGabbard call them.
Now.
They are warmongers.
There are warmongers in ourgovernment that want us at war
all the time because it's bigbusiness.
These people that own theseweapons manufacturing companies,
these guys that build aircraftsand missiles they want them to

(15:18):
be used.
A fun fact is I used to workwith nuclear weapons when I was
in the Marine Corps, and do youknow how many nuclear weapons
the United States owns?
Zero, they're all leased.
You don't own them until welaunch them.
So once one one is launched.
Uh, then we pay for it in full.

(15:38):
Uh, the rest of the time we'rejust paying a monthly lease on
them and we have about 5500 inour arsenal and, uh, I don't
know exactly what the amount is,but that's what I do know.
So these companies are makingmillions of dollars ammo,
weapons, humvees, all of thebillions.
It's a multi-billion dollarbusiness.

(16:00):
And how do you increase yourbusiness if your business is war
With war?
If there's no war, you're outof business.
So they lobby, they createscenarios where we go to war.
They encourage, so they lobby.
They create scenarios where wego to war.
They encourage, they pay forpeople's political campaigns
that are in a position to votefor war or send money or troops
or weapons to Ukraine.

(16:21):
It's a completely corruptsystem.
Here's Tulsi Gabbard.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I want to address the issue that's in the headlines
right now.
I stand in full support andwholeheartedly agree with the
statements that President Trumphas made over these last few
days with regards to thedevelopments in Syria.
My own views and experienceshave been shaped by my multiple
deployments and seeing firsthandthe cost of war and the threat

(16:48):
of Islamist terrorism.
It's one of the many reasonswhy I appreciate President
Trump's leadership and hiselection, where he is fully
committed, as he has said overand over, to bringing about an
end to wars, demonstrating peacethrough strength and putting
the national security interestsand the safety, security and
freedom of the American peoplefirst and foremost.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
And that's a great policy.
That really and truly is agreat policy.
This is a good thing for theUnited States, because it makes
Russia look incredibly weak, andit makes Russia.
It hurts Russia, because thisis Russia's allies.
Here's another video of thelocals in Syria the ones who

(17:34):
align with the belief system,who are allowed to survive in
Syria celebrating the victory ofthe freedom fighters.
Thank you.
So look how happy they look.

(18:21):
This is something you see in alot of places, a lot of
dictatorships, like North Korea.
If you ever look at the NorthKoreans and how they freak out
every time Kim Jong-un walksaround, what they're doing is
self-preservation.
Obviously, these people, now,this new army, is in control of
Damascus, so they're coming.
Oh, thank you, thank you.

(18:41):
Yeah, we love you.
You're the best.
Please don't kill us becauseyou have the power to do that
with impunity.
Now, that could be part of it,or they could truly be happy,
but when your life is on theline, you will don't ever forget

(19:24):
how good of an actor you canbecome.
People are bringing them food.
Oh yeah, thank you for comingpeople are bringing them food.
Oh yeah, thank you for comingthis is the same thing they did
to the us troops when we wentinto iraq and afghanistan.
They were coming out with food.
They were inviting troops in umto their family uh dinners,

(19:47):
which was a incredible honor.
If you ever got one of thoseinvites and um, it's, it's, it's
kind of practice, but you know,assad was a.
He was just human garbage.
As I stated before um, he's aholocaust denier.
He completely hates Jews.

(20:07):
Uh, wants them all dead.
Here's a video of him talkingabout how the Holocaust didn't
happen.
There is no evidence that 6million Jews were killed in the
Holocaust.
Perhaps there were Holocausts,nobody but not denies this.

(20:28):
True, there were concentrationcamps, but what shows you that
this is a politicized issue?
And is not a humanitarian issueand is not real.
This is common amongst in Islam,like Islamic extremists.

(20:49):
It's extremely common.
There is a um, there is a group.
There's a common consensus tohate the Jews in extreme Islam.

(21:13):
Now this is the new leader ofthis group.
He did an interview.
I'm not sure when this areainterview was done, but this is
the leader.
It's abu uh muhammad al-jaloni.
Um, he is the new leader.
It looks like he's going to bethe new asad or the new dictator
or whatever president orwhatever of um syria people

(21:37):
listening to this are going towonder why they should believe
you.

Speaker 9 (21:41):
You are still a specially designated global
terrorist by the United Stateswith a $10 million bounty on
your head.
Your group is a prescribedterrorist organization by the
United States, by the UN, by theEU and others.

Speaker 10 (22:00):
I say to people don't judge by words, but by
actions.
I believe the reality speaksfor itself.
These classifications areprimarily political and, at the
same time, wrong.
I define a terrorist as someonewho intentionally kills
civilians, harms innocents ordisplaces people.
If we're being honest, many ofthe wars waged by major powers

(22:23):
in Arab, muslim and evennon-Muslim countries have
involved the deliberate killingof thousands, the destruction of
homes and the displacement ofmillions.
Even the regime itself isguilty of such actions, but the
US he's mainly talking aboutIsrael.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
He's, you know, a terrorist kills innocent
civilian and displaces people,and that's the.
That's the argument that theymake against israel all the time
, which is just preposterous.
I'm sorry, I know I see youguys in the comments.
I know of you.
I know some of you, a lot ofyou, not a lot of you, but some
of my listeners do feel thatthere is a genocide going on in

(23:03):
Gaza.
You're wrong.
You're completely wrong.
One thing is it's funny thePalestinians they're always
running out of food, but theynever run out of rockets.
How does that make any sensewhatsoever?
How could you run out of foodbut not rockets?
You have all this money.

(23:23):
Israel's giving you money,israel's providing food,
israel's warning you before theyattack.
It's preposterous.
There's nobody on earth whoprotects innocent life of the
enemy more than israel.

Speaker 9 (23:37):
They do it more than we do as the united states and
others would say is that youwere parts of groups that did
exactly that.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
Personally, I have not done these things.
The situation must beunderstood in its historical
context.
There was a massive war in Iraqthat deeply stirred people's
emotions, prompting many to gothere.
The circumstances of that warled people to various places,
and my path led me to one ofthose locations.
Given my level of awareness andmy young age at the time, my

(24:09):
actions evolved to where I amtoday.
I didn't go to Iraq with thoseintentions.
I went to defend the Iraqipeople.
When I returned to Syria, Ididn't want to bring what
happened in Iraq into Syria.
That's why there weredisagreements between us and
ISIS.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
People would be wondering why you've agreed to
speak with us.

Speaker 10 (24:30):
What is happening in Syria is significant for the
entire world.
This event has positiverepercussions globally because,
under the regime's rule, syriabecame a source of concern and
trouble for everyone.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Nobody's disagreeing with you there.
The question is will you bebetter, will you be a better
option for the world?
And my answer to that is no.
At least with Assad, you hadsome stability.
He was bombing his own people,chemical weapons his own people.
I think it was back in theearly 2000, 2009, eight, I think

(25:08):
, 2006.
Yeah, around that time between2007, 2009, let's just call it
2008.
He was chemically bombing hisown people.
This is, this is not a goodperson.
This is not a person thatshould be the leader of a nation
.

Speaker 11 (25:21):
I agree, but this person uh, jolani, a jabroni
should not be either who ismuhammad al-jolani, the syrian
rebel who ended more than 50years of assad family rule in
syria.
After 13 years of civil war andstrife, bashar al-assad's grip
on the country evaporated withina matter of days, with the

(25:42):
president fleeing to Moscowfollowing a lightning advance by
the rebels At their head.
Ahmed al-Shar'a, better knownby his non-duguerre, Mohamed
al-Jolani, leader of a groupknown as HTS.
It's the successor to the NusraFront, an affiliate of Al-Qaeda
, and is still labeled a foreignterrorist organization by the
US and others.
He has suggested he's amoderating force and, to a

(26:04):
certain degree, has dissociatedhimself from his past.
The roots of his group'srebrand to HDS date back to 2017
.
Little is known of the42-year-old's journey to become
an Islamist fighter, and he's sofar revealed little about
himself.
Yet al-Jalani now finds himselfat the center of Syrian
politics about himself.
Yet al-Jalani now finds himselfat the center of Syrian
politics, having commandedforces which seized control of

(26:25):
Damascus, Aleppo, Homs and Hama.
Al-jalani is believed tocommand about 15,000 fighters,
with fighters from theTurkey-backed Umbrella Group
known as the National LiberationFront also joining the HDS.
But Syria remains a deeplydivided country with multiple
armed factions.
Following the overthrow ofassad, the world is watching to

(26:45):
see whether these disparategroups can come together or if
the power vacuum smells moretrouble to come power vacuums
always cause more trouble tocome.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
There's never been a power vacuum that was good in
the history of ever.
It's never happened.
Here is a video from Al.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Jazeera, he's emerged as the man leading the charge
of fighters in Syria.
But little is known about AbuMuhammad Al-Julani, who's no?
stranger to armed opposition,the leader of Hayat Tahrir

(27:27):
al-Sham became prominent in 2016when he announced the
rebranding of his armed group,jabhat al-Nusra, and its split
from Al-Qaeda.
His goal To create what he saidwas an anti-regime front in
Syria.
Born in Damascus in 1982, asAhmed al-Shar'a, joulani later
took on a pseudonym, one he saysreferenced his family history
of expulsion from thenow-occupied Golan Heights after

(27:49):
the creation of Israel In 2003,after the US invasion of Iraq,
joulani left Syria, joiningAl-Qaeda, which led to his
subsequent arrest, and in 2011,he returned to Syria as the
founder of Al-Nusra to take partin the revolt against President
Bashar al-Assad and, mostrecently, he's been trying to

(28:14):
present a more moderate view ofa revolution to take back Syria
from decades of Assad's brutalrule.

Speaker 12 (28:23):
The revolutionaries began entering the city of Hama
to sanitize up the wound thathas been left in Syria for 40
years.
I ask God Almighty that it be aconquest in which there is no
revenge.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
The sudden offensive by opposition fighters in Syria
caught much of the world bysurprise, and Joulani is now
trying to send a message toallies of the Syrian government
that this time things aredifferent.

Speaker 12 (28:52):
In the same way Iraq and Prime Minister Mohammed
Shiaa al-Sudani distanced hiscountry lately from the war
between Iran and the region.
We urge him to distance Iraqfrom entering the new furnace of
what's happening in Syria.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
With Damascus now under control of opposition
fighters and after more than adecade of conflict, the world
will be looking to Abu Muhammadal-Julani to see what type of
transition he brings to Syria.
Hamda Salhout Al Jazeera.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
We will see where this takes us.
It's going to be interesting,we'll see.
We've seen this before.
Saddam Hussein kind of came topower in a similar way and we'll
see how he handles it, whichdirection he's going to go.

(29:50):
We'll keep this story covered.
Israel is still fighting.
They're winning.
The end is going to be thatIsrael is going to win.
One of the main factors factorsagain was Hezbollah attacked
Israel and Israel unleashedtheir air force completely just
demolishing parts of Syria.

(30:13):
So the Ukrainian war rages on.
Donald Trump did meet in Pariswith Zelensky and it looks like
we're making progress to peacethere.
We do need to get back to apeaceful world.
Hopefully Donald Trump willkeep up on all of his campaign
promises.
Thank you very much for tuningin.

(30:33):
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Speaker 2 (30:41):
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