Emily Jashinsky is the host of Undercurrents by UnHerd and Counter Points on Breaking Points . I sat down with her to discuss her come-up in political journalism and how the Right won over the cultural reigns after decades of being bad at media.
Show Notes:
0:00 Intro
1:22 Hosting Unheard and Breaking Points
5:30 Why Kamala lost the Podcast Election
9:15 The facade of Gavin Newsom
11:42 Journalism in the creator economy
15:09 How the Left lost Joe Rogan
16:55 How the Right grew big on the internet
27:23 Tech Right vs MAGA Right
31:10 Immigration and assimilation
36:46 Right Wing media on Facebook
43:39 Brett Cooper leaving Daily Wire
46:05 Gender Divide in Politics, Barstool Conservative
50:15 MAGA after Donald Trump and Elon Musk
55:30 Emily on Counter Points with Saagar, Krystal, and Ryan
57:25 What motivated Emily into political journalism
1:03:24 Why Breaking Points succeeded
1:07:29 Digital Media vs Cable News
1:11:11 Emily’s Prediction for 2025
Welcome to The Sagnik Show — where politics, media, and identity collide.
Over the past decade, I’ve worked across legacy and new media, from FOX to independent platforms alongside people like Tucker Carlson, Saagar Enjeti, and Krystal Ball.
I didn’t come to the U.S. to cover politics—I just happened to fall into it. What followed was an unexpected crash course in the American political machine, taught by some of the sharpest (and most polarizing) voices in the business.
This show is my attempt to process what I’ve learned—and unlearned.
I also speak with creators and entrepreneurs building media on their own terms—people forging new paths outside the traditional gatekeepers.
I’m not here to sell you anything. None of this is monetized. I’m just grateful you’re listening.
IG: @sssagnic
YT: @thesagnikbasu
X: @_sagnikbasu
Popular Podcasts
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!
Fudd Around And Find Out
UConn basketball star Azzi Fudd brings her championship swag to iHeart Women’s Sports with Fudd Around and Find Out, a weekly podcast that takes fans along for the ride as Azzi spends her final year of college trying to reclaim the National Championship and prepare to be a first round WNBA draft pick. Ever wonder what it’s like to be a world-class athlete in the public spotlight while still managing schoolwork, friendships and family time? It’s time to Fudd Around and Find Out!