March 7, 2024 • 41 mins
This episode really does have it all! First, legendary artist Buff Monster stops by to share the details of his latest tattoo escapade with Mike Giant as well as his latest clothing collaboration with The Minions. Then, Akil Godsey from hardcore outfit End It lets us peek behind the curtain of his creative process and the forging of their next album. We crank up the volume on the intricacies of studio, toss our hats into the ring of the great Beyonce versus Taylor Swift debate, Youth of Today versus Gorilla biscuits, Terror verse Hatebreed, tattooing under anesthesia and so much more. And don't miss out on Akil and End It as they hit the road with Drain this May. As always - brought to you by Sailor Jerry!
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yeah, what's up everybody and welcome to episode
64 of the Sailor Jerry podcast.
My name is Matt Cotherin.
I am still your host.
Today is Thursday, march 7,2024.
And Sailor Jerry Spiced Rum isstill made the old school way 92
(00:50):
proof bold and smooth as hell.
I hope everyone out there isfeeling good.
Shout out to our listenersworldwide.
If you're watching on YouTube,you might be wondering what the
hell is going on right now.
This is not the normal setupand that is because this is not
the normal day.
Ladies and gentlemen in thehouse coming through to say
(01:13):
what's up, we have the one andonly buff, monster buff.
What's up man?
What's up man?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
How you doing, what's what's going on with you?
Well, we just spent three weeksin San Diego.
Very nice, hell yeah, shout outSan Diego.
And now we're just on our wayto LA.
So we got a week in LA, nice,nice.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I heard you got tattooed.
What's up with that?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's true, I got tattooed.
I guess that's actually whatyou do when you're in Southern
California.
That's part of the culture wewent by.
We went by this tattoo shopnamed Lions Den.
We're Steve Jones with paintedsome Sailor Jerry stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They're painting stuff, and the owner of the shop
told us that in San Diegothere's 500 tattoo shop.
That's insane.
That is insane.
That's what I'm saying.
Like I guess when you're inSouthern California you just get
tattooed.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's what people are.
I heard you, uh, I heard youran into the legend Mike Giant.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's right, mike Giant, I was happy to run into
him a few times and, uh, yeah,he did my first tattoo 22 years
ago Awesome.
And he did a couple since then.
And, uh, he tattooed me, uh,which is very nice.
Uh, yeah, he's got a privatestudio, you know, so he just
tattoos out of there and justlike Sailor Jerry.
Actually, you know, he's reallyabout like the bold hold.
(02:23):
Yeah, yeah, like you know?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, absolutely, mike Giant is the uh man
absolute legend out there.
For you guys who don't know,you can check him out on
Instagram Mike Giant Uh, youcould also check out Buff
Monster on Instagram, of course,where he's hopefully going to
be showing some photos of thoseMike Giant tattoos, maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yep, I posted a funny photo of me and Mike.
Yeah for sure, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Nice, nice, and uh, you've got a giant drop coming
out today.
That's true, tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's true, I'll be at Universal City Walk in LA.
Uh, my second Minion collab thefirst one came out in 2016 and
so, yeah, it's a.
It's a nice little capsulecollection.
Uh, I did some.
Uh, the first collection was mekind of interpreting Minion
character.
Yeah, the way I would do it Atthis time it's different because
(03:11):
it's actually my characterinteracting with the Minion
characters, and so that's, forme, a lot more interesting.
Yeah, you know, because I neverreally do that.
Yeah, so, yeah, so it's a bunchof shirts and hoodies and you
know all that sort of stuff andhell yeah, hell yeah, but will
that be available to the generalpublic?
Yeah, but it's only there, it'sonly at the City Walk in LA and
the City Walk in Florida.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Florida, in LA City Walk.
You got Buff Monster.
You got Minions collab.
What more could you ask for,ladies and gentlemen?
Uh, big thanks for stopping byhere on your way up the coast
Appreciate it Good to see you,brother.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's always good to see you.
Yeah Well, we placed the poollast time.
Oh yeah, yeah, with Christianthe soil, that's right.
That's right.
He is the best person I've everplayed.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh no offense, it's okay.
If you ever see Buff Monster inFull Hall, hide your wallet,
I'll just say that Legitimateshark over here.
Thanks for stopping by, buddy.
Thanks man, Awesome man.
It's time for episodesixty-four.
Akhil Godsey is dialed in.
In this episode.
We check in with the ended frontman to discuss the trials and
(04:17):
tribulations of a hardcorelifestyle.
Akhil's band and it iscurrently writing their new
album.
So you know, we get the scoopon that.
I'm talking about lyricalinfluence, creative direction,
pushing yourself as an artist, asongwriter and a singer.
It's all on the table, ladiesand gentlemen.
(04:38):
Plus, we talk about why gettingtattooed under anesthesia is
one hundred percent not the wayto do it, and so much more.
This is a wild episode, ladiesand gentlemen.
So sit back, relax, pullyourself some Sailor Jerry and
let's go.
Akhil Godsey here on the SailorJerry podcast, episode
(05:18):
sixty-four and it Baltimore inthe house.
It's a pleasure to have you on.
Yeah, man, I'm a big fan of theband, big fan of you, and you
know I'm stoked to talk to youabout music.
So thank you so much for beinga guest man.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Thanks for the invite .
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Awesome, awesome.
First and foremost, how's thevibe in the band, how's life in
general right now?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Are we chilling?
I'm off today.
What's it?
It's a Wednesday, yet we're off.
We've been hitting the studio.
Finally, we've been tellingpeople we're going to the studio
.
Now we're probably actually inthe studio.
So that's been cool and life.
I'm going to a tattoo shop.
I'm chilling.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, hell, yeah, man, hell yeah, yeah.
I'm stoked you guys are writingsome new tunes.
Last thing you put out was twothousand twenty-two.
The EP.
Right, we have a single.
The single came out.
The family single came out intwo thousand twenty-three in the
audio tree session.
But yeah, people are, peopleare hungry man, people are
waiting for that new end.
(06:18):
It dude, it's right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah it's going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We're pulling an eight-breed right now.
So how far along in the processare you?
Where were you at in the studiowith the songs?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
How many songs Once again this way From all the time
we've spent together.
The songs are essentiallywritten.
We just gotta we've justactually had time to come
together and get them out of oursystem.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, cool.
So new EP, new seven inch,whatever it's going to be, you
know you go into the studio.
Maybe it turns into something,maybe it turns into a full
length, who fucking knows.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But what's the goal?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Hell yeah, dude.
Yeah, yeah, I was talking to uh, to Lee Speelman from Trash
Talk, the other day, uh, at theceremony show.
But, dude, the ceremony showwas dude, it was, it was awesome
.
I was so stoked to be in thebuilding.
It was such a cool moment forCalifornia, hardcore punk rock.
(07:15):
Um, you know, it was just, itwas one of the best shows and
just overall vibes I've been apart of and and been to uh in in
a really, really, really longtime.
Man, it was, it was so cool andinfest crushed it.
Infest was awesome.
Um, and you know, ceremony cameout.
Of course they played RonitPark and uh, but they also did,
(07:37):
you know, they did, they cameout, they played that album.
It was awesome.
Crowd was going nuts, there wasa barricade but no one gave a
fuck.
It was, it was perfect.
And then, uh, dude, they wentinto California Uber Alice by
the Dead Kennedys and dude theplace like just I was like does
that?
whole room erupt, dude, it wasso sick and you know them being
(07:59):
from the Bay Area.
Dead Kennedys, of course.
Bay Area Band.
The history of punk rock at thePalladium, california in
general.
Uh, it was just when everyonethat chorus came in and, dude,
everyone was just singing along.
It was so sick, dude, it wasawesome.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's awesome.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I can only imagine I was talking to Lee, you know,
because they're working on somenew stuff right now and we're
just talking about, like the,the classic, uh, you know,
single verse, seven inch verse,ep, verse album, and he was
saying that for hardcore, he, hethinks it's the EP, is the
perfect, the perfect release,you know, and, and I get it, but
(08:39):
I, I end it full length, if we,if we get blessed with one,
would be sick.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So it's funny, like I said, we in the studio and
we're still in the veryFormative stages of this album
you know what I mean with allthe taunting shit.
But as a right me songs, I'mlike clock.
No, I'm like that's only aminute.
Minute 30, minute 40.
We got right, like we gotessentially right.
(09:04):
This is my first time everrecording a full way.
So we got a right like at least20 to 25 of these.
I don't know if we can writewe've never written a
three-minute song Little goofyshit like that.
So you don't get a full if itmay just be like fucking 15, 45
seconds on.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Okay.
So there's, there's a coupleways to look at that, right.
Like you look at, you can lookat like the album length, or you
can Look at the song, like thenumber of songs, right.
So it's like yeah, who, like ifthe follow songs are short and
it's cuz, I don't know if it's,you know, like the anal cunt
records and all those recordsthat were like I'm sure a lot of
(09:52):
those titles were justplaceholders and then by the
time they came to record likefucking, just that's what we're
calling me.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
No, no, do we?
We make it a power ballad.
I want a power ballad dude,okay.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
so, and, and this is, you know, one of the things
that I Love about the band is isyour voice, okay, and as a
singer myself, I love, you know,I love punk, I love hardcore,
but I I am not afraid to saythat I actually love and
appreciate the art of singingand and vocalizing as well.
(10:27):
Yeah, you, you, we man, you,you got a great voice, you got a
great, you know sensibilitywith your melody and phrasing
and and lyrically speaking, is,you know, it's, it's poignant
and it feels like you mean whatyou say and that's like, that's
like firing on all cylinders forme, you know, you'd like, it
gives me a Vocal boner, you know.
(10:49):
So it's just like.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm only complaint I've ever had in terms of like
hardcore, like one of myfavorite bands 25 the life.
I'm not the 25 the life,because it's 25 the life, but no
one knows what Rick is saying.
You know, they just get and alot of people who have been able
to just get up there and justGrunt and growl and barking shit
and that's fine, but I've never.
(11:14):
I hate that.
It will be like the sickestriff with all types of nonsense
over top of it, like you wasted.
You wasted a perfectly goodmoment.
I'll be honest a sec.
You came in 40 seconds shootingfor the bunch of other drawers
back, or like you fucking ruinedit.
Hating, I hate it so much, likethe hearty shit would just get
ruined with dog shit vocals.
(11:35):
Open your fucking mouth.
Open your mouth.
Open.
This is your moment to expressyourself.
I need to understand whatyou're saying.
Open your mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And you know, even though they might not express it
, you know, if I was a guitarplayer and I wrote this sick ass
riff and Then the singer in theband just blew it, I would be
like Like I mean not to get allcrazy philosophical, but you
know the band I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
How hard it is to get Four dudes to be like okay, we
agree, this is what we do in thetime is writing everything, and
then that 15 comes over top.
Just shit on it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That's all that remember.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's true, it's true, it's a lot of
responsibility, man, especiallylike you're saying, dude.
You know when, when youappreciate the, the, the art of
songwriting, and you appreciate,of course, the other members in
your band and what they'reworking on and what you're all
working on together, and thenyou know, usually in the studio
vocals are last too.
So if you're lucky, you get theluxury of, like the full effect
(12:43):
.
You know you get drums, you getboth guitars, if there's two,
you get bass, you might even getsome leads, you get.
You know you get a sing overwhat's pretty much going to be
the done deal, and so you get toreally, you know Unleash
yourself in your, in your finalform, so to speak.
You know the lyrics got to be,you know, done.
For the most part, melodies aredecided on and you got to show
(13:05):
up and you got to knock it out.
You know you got to pay respectto the song.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, honestly, I'm not the bass, you know, like if
we were a Sunday.
I'm not the ice cream, I'm sortof kind of just a sprinkle.
All the hard work is everythingthat goes on at the bottom.
I just sort of kind of come up,come on top and talk my shit.
Those dudes could do it withoutme, but also I can do it
(13:31):
without them.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So I am see you know, yeah, that's, that's what a
band's all about.
So, so, going back to the sound, your voice and the way you
sing, you know, as the band hasprogressed on and honestly, just
from Jump Street, you've kindof, you know, you've had your
own style and you've shownflashes of being like, hey,
guess what, I'm about to gooutside the box.
You know what I mean I'm about.
(13:52):
I'm about to go outside the box.
You know, yeah, you done some.
You've done some singing,you've done some hanging on
notes.
You know, letting stuff outthere and Honestly and I know
I'm not alone in this that stuffis so exciting to me, you know,
because it's like, you know,this is a scene where a lot of
stuff sounds the same butthere's also so many great
(14:15):
personalities and musicians andstyles and when you are able to
be confident enough to beyourself and stand out in your
own way, it's it just separatesthe band from the pack.
You know what I mean and, and Ithink you know, musically, you
guys have that, but I think youhave that, you know, with your
voice and everything you'redoing.
So Going forward, if you gotthings you want to try, you know
(14:39):
, are you, are you just gonnalet it out there if it feels
good.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Well, of course, whatever sounds good I'm going
to do, but I really am lookingforward to the opportunity to
like.
So case in point boom, theremay or may not be a Max1 penalty
cover.
You know that band, maxpenneyfrom New York and they had a
more melodic style or whatever.
I got to meet those guys andwith where hardcore is going,
(15:06):
I'll have the same confines Ionce had when I was a teenager.
You know, like you're ateenager trying to be in a
hardcore band, it needs to befast and pissed off and blah,
blah, blah.
But now I mean shout out to thehomie Jerk.
Jerk said I don't give a fuckif it sounds like hardcore or
not.
If I'm in it it's a hardcoreband.
Yeah, so that's how we move inthese days.
(15:26):
I'm a hardcore kid.
Whatever we make is hardcoremusic.
You?
know like trust me, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It may be.
It may be something you got to.
It can sound definitely, butstill be a hardcore thing if
it's written correctly.
Now, if I saw making pop pop,I'm a pop pop artist, but it
ain't got to have you know.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So when you say, when you draw Powerballad, what,
what, what, what field ofreference here are we talking
about Cause, you know,powerballad is big, that's a big
field Lots of loophies, wasstill a thrash man, right yeah,
but if you ain't never weeped alittle better than November rain
, aren't you human?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, no.
Like the undertaking.
But that's where I'm going.
We don't know yet.
We still figuring it out, butthere's gonna be something
sentimental in there.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Awesome man.
I like that and I like bandsthat aren't afraid to try
different things and evolve andand shout out to justice.
Of course, I had him on the pota while back and he's he's the
fucking man and everything he'sdoing honestly, you know, with
Angel dust and his productionstuff, that's a guy who you know
is like you said.
I mean, whatever he's going todo is going to be him and it's
(16:37):
going to be hardcore, but he'snot afraid to try different shit
and that's how.
That's how the scene getspushed forward.
That's how music gets pushedforward.
That's how genres and artistspush forward.
It's all part of fucking.
You know the weight of theartist.
You know you got to push yourboundaries, man.
You got it.
You got to express yourself toyour fullest capabilities and
(16:58):
I'm stoked that ended is one ofthose bands, man, oh, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Also we got.
We got Blaine McTarzanproducing this next one.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So he's running a corner.
Damn, what studio is it at?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I don't think the studio has a name here Cops up
Nova and Washington Heightswhich is like outside of
Baltimore city.
It's pretty sick.
I'm going to be there tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Hell yeah, man, are you tracking vocal tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I got some stuff written so we just the homework
was coming with a ref.
So it's pretty crazy thiswriting process.
So normally it would just belike Ray and Chris.
They send us something and then, like the first couple of
efforts, it was me and Ray werereal close to one point and then
I had my daughter startedgetting older.
Life went on, so it became morehim and Chris, but now, as long
(17:47):
as the four of us in the room,all you got to do is give us a
ref and by the time we leave twohours later we have a song.
So I got a bunch of shit towrite to.
Obviously, a lot of my lyricsand vocal styles and whatnot are
in relation to what's happeningin my life.
America's going through somecrazy shit, obviously, so I
(18:12):
almost have too much to speak on.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean, the world is a dumpster fire right
now.
There's so much happening, andso there is the classic quote of
an artist being a reflection ofthe times.
That's something that I thinkevery artist embraces, and it
seems like you do too, but youalso, like you said, as the band
(18:34):
gets bigger, you got fans.
So are you a little worriedabout being more conscious about
what you're writing?
Do you care about that, or doesit affect your writing at all?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'm just trying to figure out how to maintain the
same theme and motif but expressit differently.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You know it is ended.
I'm never going to want to notbe alive, but at a certain point
now you're just beinghypocritical, yeah.
So it's just trying to findthat balance, so to speak.
But also don't want to go tooignorant, but in some regards
like case in point, a young manjust let himself on fire yeah,
(19:19):
the best he thought he could dois to get out of here.
So, like, how do you evenapproach that?
Because he can't send the worldin the full energy?
I don't know, I don't know.
It's a weird space to write inright now.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, it really is.
And it's like nowadays, forfucking, you know, every this
there's that, for every fuckingside, for every action there's a
reaction.
So it's just like fuck.
But you know, I think one ofthe stone coldest things you can
do as a writer is just say whatthe fuck you want to say.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's like it's a wildworld to be writing right now,
(19:53):
like you're saying, because it'slike one.
There's so much stuff to writeabout and it's hard to actually
put into words, like you know,like to get through your
thoughts and get it all down onpaper.
But then it's also aboutreleasing that as a fucking
statement from yourself and theband out into the world, being
like this is where I'm at, youknow, like that type of thing.
(20:15):
So it's a crazy time right now.
It's a crazy time, man.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Because obviously, as you know, we got a different
set of eyes on us these days asopposed to the years before.
You know like the people wantto hear hardcore, but the thing
about hardcore is not giving thefuck what the people want.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Just like play hardcore, right, right.
Also, I'm 34 and I can't keepwild Like I'm certain for you.
You just have to grow up as awhole.
Stay in the world.
We're doing just fine over here, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a trip man.
It's a trip that's gonna be.
I'm looking forward to the newmusic man.
That's an exciting thing.
I know it's gonna be killer.
I know you're gonna knock itout of the park.
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Now back to the show.
You know you guys are doingSouth by Southwest coming up too
.
Is that your first time doingthat?
Have you done that before?
Feel like?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
we were down there around the same time as South by
, but we didn't actuallyparticipate in South by
sanctioned events.
So yeah, this will be our firsttime.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, yeah, I saw that there's a flat spot show at
the Mohawk right and thenthat's gonna be the-.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No one told me, so we got three shows that weekend.
I just thought we were flyingin.
I'm kidding, I thought we wereflying in during the one.
Going home they were like yes,so we're playing three of them
in two days.
Have fun.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Dude, that's honestly dude.
That's you're getting away easywith that Cause South by is
notorious for that.
It's like, oh, we're gonna.
You know you're playing thisLevi's party and then you know
this company's doing that, andthen there's a record label
doing this over here and you endup I mean, dude, it's such a
you know it's a good time, dude,it's a good time, but you
(22:48):
always end up playing your assoff and you always end up
playing at least twice a day.
You know what I mean.
So I know I know you guys willhave fun.
I fuck with Austin, texas, man,it's a cool.
It's a cool fucking city andmusic.
Cool city for punk and forhardcore.
That's dope, that'll be good.
And what else you guys gotcoming up this year of show wise
(23:09):
.
You got tied down to Troy.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I would say we got tied down to Detroit and I
believe in May we're gonna hitthe road with Drain.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, with a Drain style pair.
It's like a whole.
How do we have first full USBoom?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, hell yeah.
That's gonna be sick, dude,that's gonna be sick.
And you guys?
You guys went to Europe lastyear, right?
How's Europe for you guys?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, we went to Europe twice.
We actually get a pretty goodresponse in as much as my own
personal feelings about thecountry in Germany in relation
to how the people were.
It was fine, but I enjoy goingto Europe.
I really like the Netherlands alot, yeah, yeah yeah, but we
spent most of our time inGermany.
(23:57):
Shout out, stick to your guns.
Yeah, hell yeah, yeah they crushover in Germany, dude, so like
I said I'm from Baltimore, I'man American through and through,
so I had no care or concernwhat happens in Germany.
Yeah, you know, I didn't knowthat.
Stick to your guns can go playto 3,000 people in Germany and
(24:21):
like clean up for real, Likeit's different over there
because they're excited room.
Our excited room, our excitedroom, mass pain, people kill
each other.
Their excited room is oh, thisentire room knows the words.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's crazy, that is fucking crazy, it was cool, it
was a good time.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, did you ever?
Did you get any experience withGerman press?
Did you get to do anyinterviews over there?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I did an interview in Paris, I didn't.
If I did do an interview inGermany, I don't remember it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
They're like it's like blunt honesty, but it just
comes across as just like it didit so funny.
It's just like your new recordis not very good.
Why.
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Why, why, why don't you have black shirts?
Well, these are, we got grayand we got white, but a black
shirt.
Can I try it on?
Sure, try the shirt on, I guesswhat?
Yeah, they're interesting,fucking crap.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, man, I wanna wrap with you real quick about
the art of being a front man.
Being a front person, okay,being up on that stage for you,
what's your feeling, what'sgoing through your mind and what
being a front person of a bandmeans to you and what you think
it's all about.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well, obviously you the face, and more often not the
voice, of the band, at least inmy instance.
My dudes don't have as much ofan internet or social media
presence as myself, so any goofyshit I say or accidentally say
is on their shoulders.
I'm mostly the vocalist for aband because that's the, the
(26:01):
instrument I've been given thetalent to play.
You know what I mean.
And a lot of people, a lot ofpeople, don't really understand
sometimes because, like I said,I'm mad ignorant in some regard.
I didn't know that dudes wouldjoin, but like I knew it, but it
never really clicked that likea dude would join a band to try
to gain female attention.
You know what I mean.
(26:22):
So, like in the, I had torealize in the course of me
being up there doing my statethat a lot of people think I'm
doing that To intentionally beentertaining.
You know what I mean.
Like I came up here with anagenda and a purpose, but the
purpose is just to play thesesongs.
Yeah, goofy shit in between iscuz well, I'm here, I might as
(26:45):
well talk, because that'sactually how I exist.
Those same conversations willbe happening If no one else was
in the room, because I'mactually out of my fucking mind.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know what I mean.
All the good ones are baby.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So I just uh, like I said, I'm the vocalist because I
don't if I play bass I'd be abassist, but I'm the vocalist,
so it's just what I do.
Enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's the.
You know there's.
There's no greater feeling.
I mean, you know I'm sure thereare some better feelings out
there, but we're on stage andthe band is ripping and you know
you got the crowds going offand you know, in between songs
You're just fucking lightenpeople up or saying what you
want to say and it's just allhappening.
It's.
(27:32):
It's one of the coolest thingsin the world and and like you
said, you know, like being inthe band, it's just, you know
everyone contributes, everyone'sdoing their own thing and I
just really can't wait to seeyou guys live man, because from
the videos I've seen and thepeople I've talked to about it,
it's just an incredibleexperience and I love that.
Crazy, like rock and roll, punkrock, hardcore energy.
(27:55):
Like I like the unpredictable,I like a little bit of chaos, I
like to walk into a room andkind of, like you know, have to
keep my head on a swivel alittle bit.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You used to feel that at every show.
Yes, yes, and it's not justbecause we've gotten older, it
was legit.
Like last time I was in here Isaw a block fall out of
someone's pants leg, so I don'treally know what's gonna go on.
All of those dudes in thecorner got the same shade on and
they're very big, and I got awalk-o.
(28:32):
Let's do it, you may I miss one, like I didn't know if I was
gonna make it home alive, youknow.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So what you're when you're writing lyrics?
Are you writing all the time ordo you just write when there's
music to be to be Written?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
so, like I'm always freestyle and something I got
here from hip-hop like I camehere from rapping, so I always
got something in the chamber ifnecessary.
But in terms of like right,unless I wake up and really
remember something that I knowis gonna be good, I mostly just
right in a moment.
What's, what's your rap?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
background.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So, um, my two old, my oldest brother Was in a rap
group when he was in a MarineCorps.
Called torture in the chamberand he came home and he had All
the studio equipment, everything, like I'm talking when the cord
Triton was like we had a Tritonand it was like, oh shit, he
really swears on it.
And then no, those two.
(29:30):
So that's my only this brother.
I'm one of three, so my secondoldest brother is that's
actually my blood brother and meand him, you know, we grew up
together and he'll be like yougive me 16 and I try to be all
shine, shape Because he's sevenyears old me.
So I would say no and he wouldthree-piece me and then I'd be
(29:50):
like, okay, and so that's how Ilearned how to freestyle and rap
.
Really just been in the studiomy whole life and everything.
When we first our first album,the boys will let you.
The guys up in the band at thattime were kind of amazed like
damn, he really only take liketwo, three takes right, yet yeah
.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, we don't have time.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
We don't have time for this.
Like you just wrote it, now gospit it.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
No, so do you have.
Are there releases out therethat people can listen to?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
um, there's one or two songs on YouTube you can
look up a kill God.
Like my first name, a k il,then gld, and just the letter c,
and and some of that shit willpop up hell yeah but I was
always.
I was always been a hardcorekid.
I never ventured into the hiphop scene or wanting to do, none
of that.
My brothers did club music fora while and then I found this
(30:41):
hardcore shit like they.
They went that way and I wentthis way.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, yeah.
It's cool though how it all youknow I mean at all Musically
speaking ties into each other.
You know You've been able tofreestyle and you know getting
the the chance to record andthen you know getting into a
hardcore band and all that stuff.
It's all connected, man, it'sall connected and you know it
all you know Kind of feeds intoyour creative process, which is
cool to know.
(31:06):
You know you mentioned, youmentioned you're working at a
tattoo shop.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Are you a tattoo artist or no, no, I would never
so Shout out.
Dear Durakian triple crowntattoo up in Towson.
Dean sees me be on the road andwhatnot and she's like you know
I need a counterperson and youwill be great.
So I just work counting andit's the best job anyone can
answer.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, hell, yeah, hell, yeah.
Well, it's sick.
This is the sailor Jerrypodcast.
Norman Collins was one of thegodfather Traditional tattooing,
so that's pretty fuckingawesome.
What was the?
What was your first tattoo?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
My first tattoo was skinhead inside my lip.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh yeah, what about your latest tattoo was last one
you got.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Oh, I got this humbly well for my face.
Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I was gonna say what do you feel about people going
under anesthesia to get tatted?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
We would talk about that shit last night at work.
No, that's cheating, likethat's half the.
So, if anything is a commentaryon the world, you want some
shit that represents Strife anddiligence, but you don't want to
have to put forth or deal withany strike and no, no, that's a
(32:30):
cowards way out.
This shit hurt and it's notcool or fun.
I had a couple people yesterdayI worked yesterday.
Oh, do you suggest any numbing?
And I'm like you shouldn't numbit because, like, if I go to
pierce you, right and that partof the body is numb and you
react poorly to the piercinginitially because the body parts
(32:54):
numb, how do we know if this isgood or bad?
The body can take care ofitself.
It reacts.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
No, I don't like it.
Yeah, Also they get like fullbody please For some sick shit.
Nah, fuck that.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I saw this one headline today where it was like
a guy got like four tattoos andlike dental work done while he
was like under and I was likewhat the fuck's going on Like?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
why are you doing that?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
All right, a couple more questions, akil.
I don't want to keep you toolong here, man.
A couple questions to go alongwith the player headers ball
video for Hate Keeper that youhad A couple.
We're going to call us the hatesection.
What is your least favoriteinstrument?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Maybe clarinet.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, clarinet, not a giant fan of clarinet.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I like most woodwinds .
The old one kind of pissed meoff, but like I get it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Mine's a harmonica.
I hate the harmonica yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I've been given a very strict no harmonica on the
full length policy, which has myheart as a Billy Joel fan.
I'm like not even a little bit.
I'll put it in a skit.
No, get prepared for the skitson this full length too.
Oh really, yeah, we takingadvantage of like that early 90s
shit, just throw a skit man,why not Good, good, good.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, you need skits.
You know, Snoop Dogg records,Dr Dre records, all those.
Oh God, they were so good.
Oh, like.
W shit yeah W balls, all right.
What's the worst genre of music?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'd have to say gospel music.
But like gospel music got somebangers and I'm black and I
can't say that out loud, I don'tknow.
In the most cliche way, I likeall music because I went to
school for it.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So like oh nice, I didn't know that.
Where do you?
Went to school for music.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, I had to have two scholarship opportunities
for vocal performance.
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I want to get home and high school.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I went to high school center for vocal performance.
So do that stick, man.
I can really sheet music andyou know I was a tenor and did
all that shit, but I was stillgoing to shows and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's fucking dope dude.
I love that.
Yeah, I love that.
There's, you know, like adeeper musical, you know well
than what people might see fromthe surface.
Man, that's really fucking cooland it makes sense, like you
know.
You dig in a little deepervocally, you know it makes sense
.
I could tell that's somethingyou really really care about.
That's fucking cool.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, well, you're breathing and you're phrasing.
You know what I say.
You got to get it all workstogether, yeah.
And then the hip hop.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
That's two.
We're going to go.
We're going to go pick one here, ok.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
OK.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Stage dive or slam dance.
Slam dance, nice Street art orfine art, street art John Joseph
or Harley Taylor's, beyonce orTaylor Swift?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Beyonce.
The Swifties got not as that onthe day man, they tried to pop
in that shit.
I basically said, like y'alllove Taylor Swift because y'all
like easily digestible shitHospital food, bland, no salt,
get it, don't even mix.
And they were so upset theycouldn't even decide for the
(36:12):
argument.
They think I'm talking shit onTaylor.
Get at how you live, sweetheart.
She's a billionaire.
I'm an asshole.
What I'm getting at is the factthat y'all had enabled her to
become a billionaire, when allshe's doing is cutting the crust
off her white bread she didn'teven put in that normal
motherfucker and y'all eat it up.
It's insane.
She ain't toasting, it Ain't nobutter.
(36:34):
I think they just oh damn, Ilove her so much.
I've seen a quirky white bitchbefore.
Like, too, I love that.
That's how it all.
Who am I?
I need to stop.
You need to stop.
She's probably a great lady.
I don't care.
She's just some white lady fromPennsylvania.
Dog, calm down, calm down, soshe heel flip.
(36:56):
Because if she came out thereand does like a heel flip, I was
like Taylor, you got it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
If Taylor dropped the heel, flip that would be.
That would change a lot ofthings, I think, and Taylor
couldn't dolly inward heel.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'd be like I'm just trying to fuck up, you got it,
but she can't.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Hell yeah, what about a youth of today?
Or gorilla biscuits?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Gorilla biscuits.
Shout out to Sam.
Shout out to our office.
Shout out to Charlie.
Shout out to all of them.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Love them, love them, oh yeah.
Draker Kanye Holmgay, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I was drop out.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, heypreet, or terror.
Sorry, scott Heypreet.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh, heypreet, all right, so hand me out.
It's funny that you would makeme do this, but I'm going to do
it.
So when I started getting intothis, remember I had no mental
for real.
So all the white boys wearingthe terror shirts were doing
were like mashing.
But I'm a new jack, but I'mstill like a crust, like a punk.
So I'm still doing that likecircle pits, not karate, kick
(37:55):
shit.
So I would see that shit and belike I hate that going on.
You know it'll be like why arethey doing that?
And then I turned like no, Istarted having sex.
And then I was like I get it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Wait, so are you saying that there's a
correlation between not havingsex in circle pits and having
sex and hardcore dancing?
Yes, in my world, all right.
Ice tea or body count, bodycount, nice, nice, all right,
trash talk, or trapped under ice.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
TY, baby, yeah, TY, I mean trash talk is trash talk,
but TY, that's the holy, that'sfamily right there.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
That's true.
That's true.
All right, Last two questionshere.
If Bill and Ted came down, theyhad the time machine with them.
They said yo, Keele, anywhereyou want to go in history, let's
go.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Tell me where you want to go and why I'm going to
need them to drop me in eitherColombia or Florida circa 1978,
1982.
You feel me?
We going to get busy one time.
Take me there.
Take me there, poppy.
I'm Dominican.
I'm not black, I'm Dominican.
I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
All right.
Last question what do you,Akhil Godzi, is the meaning of
life?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I had no idea what the meaning of life is.
I tell you what you should be.
Just follow the rule Treateverybody the way you would like
to be treated.
It's real simple.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Hell yeah, man.
Awesome, akhil.
I just want to say thank youvery much, my man, for being on
the Say the Jerry podcast.
Thank you for having me.
It's been a pleasure man.
So everybody keep a lookout forEnd it.
This year they got a lot ofstuff going on New music in the
works Shows all over the US.
Thanks again for your time,akhil.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right on.
Thanks for having me.
I'll take it easy.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh yeah, that's a wrap on episode 64 of the Say
the Jerry podcast.
As always, huge amount ofrespect and gratitude to our
guest, the one and only AkhilGodzi of End it.
Akhil, thank you so much foryour time and energy.
My man, it was awesome talkingto you.
You can follow Akhil at alonein Akhil on Instagram.
(40:10):
You can follow End it onInstagram, of course, and watch
out for them on the road in 2024.
They got that big tour withDrain just announced.
They got tied down in Detroitand, of course, south by
Southwest, right around thecorner in Austin, texas.
And also huge shout out to BuffMonster for swinging through in
(40:31):
the monologue to say what up?
Always good to get some timewith the Buff one.
So thank you very much, buffMonster.
Look out for that Minionscollab that dropped today.
You can follow me at 2-3 Matman.
You can follow Say the Jerry atSay the Jerry, I'll see you in
two weeks.
Peace, slowly.
Oh yeah, what's up everybody and welcome to episode
64 of the Sailor Jerry podcast.
My name is Matt Cotherin.
I am still your host.
Today is Thursday, march 7,2024.
And Sailor Jerry Spiced Rum isstill made the old school way 92
(00:50):
proof bold and smooth as hell.
I hope everyone out there isfeeling good.
Shout out to our listenersworldwide.
If you're watching on YouTube,you might be wondering what the
hell is going on right now.
This is not the normal setupand that is because this is not
the normal day.
Ladies and gentlemen in thehouse coming through to say
(01:13):
what's up, we have the one andonly buff, monster buff.
What's up man?
What's up man?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
How you doing, what's what's going on with you?
Well, we just spent three weeksin San Diego.
Very nice, hell yeah, shout outSan Diego.
And now we're just on our wayto LA.
So we got a week in LA, nice,nice.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I heard you got tattooed.
What's up with that?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's true, I got tattooed.
I guess that's actually whatyou do when you're in Southern
California.
That's part of the culture wewent by.
We went by this tattoo shopnamed Lions Den.
We're Steve Jones with paintedsome Sailor Jerry stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They're painting stuff, and the owner of the shop
told us that in San Diegothere's 500 tattoo shop.
That's insane.
That is insane.
That's what I'm saying.
Like I guess when you're inSouthern California you just get
tattooed.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's what people are.
I heard you, uh, I heard youran into the legend Mike Giant.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's right, mike Giant, I was happy to run into
him a few times and, uh, yeah,he did my first tattoo 22 years
ago Awesome.
And he did a couple since then.
And, uh, he tattooed me, uh,which is very nice.
Uh, yeah, he's got a privatestudio, you know, so he just
tattoos out of there and justlike Sailor Jerry.
Actually, you know, he's reallyabout like the bold hold.
(02:23):
Yeah, yeah, like you know?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, absolutely, mike Giant is the uh man
absolute legend out there.
For you guys who don't know,you can check him out on
Instagram Mike Giant Uh, youcould also check out Buff
Monster on Instagram, of course,where he's hopefully going to
be showing some photos of thoseMike Giant tattoos, maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yep, I posted a funny photo of me and Mike.
Yeah for sure, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Nice, nice, and uh, you've got a giant drop coming
out today.
That's true, tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's true, I'll be at Universal City Walk in LA.
Uh, my second Minion collab thefirst one came out in 2016 and
so, yeah, it's a.
It's a nice little capsulecollection.
Uh, I did some.
Uh, the first collection was mekind of interpreting Minion
character.
Yeah, the way I would do it Atthis time it's different because
(03:11):
it's actually my characterinteracting with the Minion
characters, and so that's, forme, a lot more interesting.
Yeah, you know, because I neverreally do that.
Yeah, so, yeah, so it's a bunchof shirts and hoodies and you
know all that sort of stuff andhell yeah, hell yeah, but will
that be available to the generalpublic?
Yeah, but it's only there, it'sonly at the City Walk in LA and
the City Walk in Florida.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Florida, in LA City Walk.
You got Buff Monster.
You got Minions collab.
What more could you ask for,ladies and gentlemen?
Uh, big thanks for stopping byhere on your way up the coast
Appreciate it Good to see you,brother.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's always good to see you.
Yeah Well, we placed the poollast time.
Oh yeah, yeah, with Christianthe soil, that's right.
That's right.
He is the best person I've everplayed.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh no offense, it's okay.
If you ever see Buff Monster inFull Hall, hide your wallet,
I'll just say that Legitimateshark over here.
Thanks for stopping by, buddy.
Thanks man, Awesome man.
It's time for episodesixty-four.
Akhil Godsey is dialed in.
In this episode.
We check in with the ended frontman to discuss the trials and
(04:17):
tribulations of a hardcorelifestyle.
Akhil's band and it iscurrently writing their new
album.
So you know, we get the scoopon that.
I'm talking about lyricalinfluence, creative direction,
pushing yourself as an artist, asongwriter and a singer.
It's all on the table, ladiesand gentlemen.
(04:38):
Plus, we talk about why gettingtattooed under anesthesia is
one hundred percent not the wayto do it, and so much more.
This is a wild episode, ladiesand gentlemen.
So sit back, relax, pullyourself some Sailor Jerry and
let's go.
Akhil Godsey here on the SailorJerry podcast, episode
(05:18):
sixty-four and it Baltimore inthe house.
It's a pleasure to have you on.
Yeah, man, I'm a big fan of theband, big fan of you, and you
know I'm stoked to talk to youabout music.
So thank you so much for beinga guest man.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Thanks for the invite .
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Awesome, awesome.
First and foremost, how's thevibe in the band, how's life in
general right now?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Are we chilling?
I'm off today.
What's it?
It's a Wednesday, yet we're off.
We've been hitting the studio.
Finally, we've been tellingpeople we're going to the studio
.
Now we're probably actually inthe studio.
So that's been cool and life.
I'm going to a tattoo shop.
I'm chilling.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, hell, yeah, man, hell yeah, yeah.
I'm stoked you guys are writingsome new tunes.
Last thing you put out was twothousand twenty-two.
The EP.
Right, we have a single.
The single came out.
The family single came out intwo thousand twenty-three in the
audio tree session.
But yeah, people are, peopleare hungry man, people are
waiting for that new end.
(06:18):
It dude, it's right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah it's going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We're pulling an eight-breed right now.
So how far along in the processare you?
Where were you at in the studiowith the songs?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
How many songs Once again this way From all the time
we've spent together.
The songs are essentiallywritten.
We just gotta we've justactually had time to come
together and get them out of oursystem.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, cool.
So new EP, new seven inch,whatever it's going to be, you
know you go into the studio.
Maybe it turns into something,maybe it turns into a full
length, who fucking knows.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But what's the goal?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Hell yeah, dude.
Yeah, yeah, I was talking to uh, to Lee Speelman from Trash
Talk, the other day, uh, at theceremony show.
But, dude, the ceremony showwas dude, it was, it was awesome
.
I was so stoked to be in thebuilding.
It was such a cool moment forCalifornia, hardcore punk rock.
(07:15):
Um, you know, it was just, itwas one of the best shows and
just overall vibes I've been apart of and and been to uh in in
a really, really, really longtime.
Man, it was, it was so cool andinfest crushed it.
Infest was awesome.
Um, and you know, ceremony cameout.
Of course they played RonitPark and uh, but they also did,
(07:37):
you know, they did, they cameout, they played that album.
It was awesome.
Crowd was going nuts, there wasa barricade but no one gave a
fuck.
It was, it was perfect.
And then, uh, dude, they wentinto California Uber Alice by
the Dead Kennedys and dude theplace like just I was like does
that?
whole room erupt, dude, it wasso sick and you know them being
(07:59):
from the Bay Area.
Dead Kennedys, of course.
Bay Area Band.
The history of punk rock at thePalladium, california in
general.
Uh, it was just when everyonethat chorus came in and, dude,
everyone was just singing along.
It was so sick, dude, it wasawesome.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's awesome.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I can only imagine I was talking to Lee, you know,
because they're working on somenew stuff right now and we're
just talking about, like the,the classic, uh, you know,
single verse, seven inch verse,ep, verse album, and he was
saying that for hardcore, he, hethinks it's the EP, is the
perfect, the perfect release,you know, and, and I get it, but
(08:39):
I, I end it full length, if we,if we get blessed with one,
would be sick.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So it's funny, like I said, we in the studio and
we're still in the veryFormative stages of this album
you know what I mean with allthe taunting shit.
But as a right me songs, I'mlike clock.
No, I'm like that's only aminute.
Minute 30, minute 40.
We got right, like we gotessentially right.
(09:04):
This is my first time everrecording a full way.
So we got a right like at least20 to 25 of these.
I don't know if we can writewe've never written a
three-minute song Little goofyshit like that.
So you don't get a full if itmay just be like fucking 15, 45
seconds on.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Okay.
So there's, there's a coupleways to look at that, right.
Like you look at, you can lookat like the album length, or you
can Look at the song, like thenumber of songs, right.
So it's like yeah, who, like ifthe follow songs are short and
it's cuz, I don't know if it's,you know, like the anal cunt
records and all those recordsthat were like I'm sure a lot of
(09:52):
those titles were justplaceholders and then by the
time they came to record likefucking, just that's what we're
calling me.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
No, no, do we?
We make it a power ballad.
I want a power ballad dude,okay.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
so, and, and this is, you know, one of the things
that I Love about the band is isyour voice, okay, and as a
singer myself, I love, you know,I love punk, I love hardcore,
but I I am not afraid to saythat I actually love and
appreciate the art of singingand and vocalizing as well.
(10:27):
Yeah, you, you, we man, you,you got a great voice, you got a
great, you know sensibilitywith your melody and phrasing
and and lyrically speaking, is,you know, it's, it's poignant
and it feels like you mean whatyou say and that's like, that's
like firing on all cylinders forme, you know, you'd like, it
gives me a Vocal boner, you know.
(10:49):
So it's just like.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm only complaint I've ever had in terms of like
hardcore, like one of myfavorite bands 25 the life.
I'm not the 25 the life,because it's 25 the life, but no
one knows what Rick is saying.
You know, they just get and alot of people who have been able
to just get up there and justGrunt and growl and barking shit
and that's fine, but I've never.
(11:14):
I hate that.
It will be like the sickestriff with all types of nonsense
over top of it, like you wasted.
You wasted a perfectly goodmoment.
I'll be honest a sec.
You came in 40 seconds shootingfor the bunch of other drawers
back, or like you fucking ruinedit.
Hating, I hate it so much, likethe hearty shit would just get
ruined with dog shit vocals.
(11:35):
Open your fucking mouth.
Open your mouth.
Open.
This is your moment to expressyourself.
I need to understand whatyou're saying.
Open your mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And you know, even though they might not express it
, you know, if I was a guitarplayer and I wrote this sick ass
riff and Then the singer in theband just blew it, I would be
like Like I mean not to get allcrazy philosophical, but you
know the band I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
How hard it is to get Four dudes to be like okay, we
agree, this is what we do in thetime is writing everything, and
then that 15 comes over top.
Just shit on it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That's all that remember.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's true, it's true, it's a lot of
responsibility, man, especiallylike you're saying, dude.
You know when, when youappreciate the, the, the art of
songwriting, and you appreciate,of course, the other members in
your band and what they'reworking on and what you're all
working on together, and thenyou know, usually in the studio
vocals are last too.
So if you're lucky, you get theluxury of, like the full effect
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.
You know you get drums, you getboth guitars, if there's two,
you get bass, you might even getsome leads, you get.
You know you get a sing overwhat's pretty much going to be
the done deal, and so you get toreally, you know Unleash
yourself in your, in your finalform, so to speak.
You know the lyrics got to be,you know, done.
For the most part, melodies aredecided on and you got to show
(13:05):
up and you got to knock it out.
You know you got to pay respectto the song.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, honestly, I'm not the bass, you know, like if
we were a Sunday.
I'm not the ice cream, I'm sortof kind of just a sprinkle.
All the hard work is everythingthat goes on at the bottom.
I just sort of kind of come up,come on top and talk my shit.
Those dudes could do it withoutme, but also I can do it
(13:31):
without them.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So I am see you know, yeah, that's, that's what a
band's all about.
So, so, going back to the sound, your voice and the way you
sing, you know, as the band hasprogressed on and honestly, just
from Jump Street, you've kindof, you know, you've had your
own style and you've shownflashes of being like, hey,
guess what, I'm about to gooutside the box.
You know what I mean I'm about.
(13:52):
I'm about to go outside the box.
You know, yeah, you done some.
You've done some singing,you've done some hanging on
notes.
You know, letting stuff outthere and Honestly and I know
I'm not alone in this that stuffis so exciting to me, you know,
because it's like, you know,this is a scene where a lot of
stuff sounds the same butthere's also so many great
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personalities and musicians andstyles and when you are able to
be confident enough to beyourself and stand out in your
own way, it's it just separatesthe band from the pack.
You know what I mean and, and Ithink you know, musically, you
guys have that, but I think youhave that, you know, with your
voice and everything you'redoing.
So Going forward, if you gotthings you want to try, you know
(14:39):
, are you, are you just gonnalet it out there if it feels
good.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Well, of course, whatever sounds good I'm going
to do, but I really am lookingforward to the opportunity to
like.
So case in point boom, theremay or may not be a Max1 penalty
cover.
You know that band, maxpenneyfrom New York and they had a
more melodic style or whatever.
I got to meet those guys andwith where hardcore is going,
(15:06):
I'll have the same confines Ionce had when I was a teenager.
You know, like you're ateenager trying to be in a
hardcore band, it needs to befast and pissed off and blah,
blah, blah.
But now I mean shout out to thehomie Jerk.
Jerk said I don't give a fuckif it sounds like hardcore or
not.
If I'm in it it's a hardcoreband.
Yeah, so that's how we move inthese days.
(15:26):
I'm a hardcore kid.
Whatever we make is hardcoremusic.
You?
know like trust me, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It may be.
It may be something you got to.
It can sound definitely, butstill be a hardcore thing if
it's written correctly.
Now, if I saw making pop pop,I'm a pop pop artist, but it
ain't got to have you know.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So when you say, when you draw Powerballad, what,
what, what, what field ofreference here are we talking
about Cause, you know,powerballad is big, that's a big
field Lots of loophies, wasstill a thrash man, right yeah,
but if you ain't never weeped alittle better than November rain
, aren't you human?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, no.
Like the undertaking.
But that's where I'm going.
We don't know yet.
We still figuring it out, butthere's gonna be something
sentimental in there.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Awesome man.
I like that and I like bandsthat aren't afraid to try
different things and evolve andand shout out to justice.
Of course, I had him on the pota while back and he's he's the
fucking man and everything he'sdoing honestly, you know, with
Angel dust and his productionstuff, that's a guy who you know
is like you said.
I mean, whatever he's going todo is going to be him and it's
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going to be hardcore, but he'snot afraid to try different shit
and that's how.
That's how the scene getspushed forward.
That's how music gets pushedforward.
That's how genres and artistspush forward.
It's all part of fucking.
You know the weight of theartist.
You know you got to push yourboundaries, man.
You got it.
You got to express yourself toyour fullest capabilities and
(16:58):
I'm stoked that ended is one ofthose bands, man, oh, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Also we got.
We got Blaine McTarzanproducing this next one.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So he's running a corner.
Damn, what studio is it at?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I don't think the studio has a name here Cops up
Nova and Washington Heightswhich is like outside of
Baltimore city.
It's pretty sick.
I'm going to be there tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Hell yeah, man, are you tracking vocal tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I got some stuff written so we just the homework
was coming with a ref.
So it's pretty crazy thiswriting process.
So normally it would just belike Ray and Chris.
They send us something and then, like the first couple of
efforts, it was me and Ray werereal close to one point and then
I had my daughter startedgetting older.
Life went on, so it became morehim and Chris, but now, as long
(17:47):
as the four of us in the room,all you got to do is give us a
ref and by the time we leave twohours later we have a song.
So I got a bunch of shit towrite to.
Obviously, a lot of my lyricsand vocal styles and whatnot are
in relation to what's happeningin my life.
America's going through somecrazy shit, obviously, so I
(18:12):
almost have too much to speak on.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean, the world is a dumpster fire right
now.
There's so much happening, andso there is the classic quote of
an artist being a reflection ofthe times.
That's something that I thinkevery artist embraces, and it
seems like you do too, but youalso, like you said, as the band
(18:34):
gets bigger, you got fans.
So are you a little worriedabout being more conscious about
what you're writing?
Do you care about that, or doesit affect your writing at all?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'm just trying to figure out how to maintain the
same theme and motif but expressit differently.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You know it is ended.
I'm never going to want to notbe alive, but at a certain point
now you're just beinghypocritical, yeah.
So it's just trying to findthat balance, so to speak.
But also don't want to go tooignorant, but in some regards
like case in point, a young manjust let himself on fire yeah,
(19:19):
the best he thought he could dois to get out of here.
So, like, how do you evenapproach that?
Because he can't send the worldin the full energy?
I don't know, I don't know.
It's a weird space to write inright now.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, it really is.
And it's like nowadays, forfucking, you know, every this
there's that, for every fuckingside, for every action there's a
reaction.
So it's just like fuck.
But you know, I think one ofthe stone coldest things you can
do as a writer is just say whatthe fuck you want to say.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's like it's a wildworld to be writing right now,
(19:53):
like you're saying, because it'slike one.
There's so much stuff to writeabout and it's hard to actually
put into words, like you know,like to get through your
thoughts and get it all down onpaper.
But then it's also aboutreleasing that as a fucking
statement from yourself and theband out into the world, being
like this is where I'm at, youknow, like that type of thing.
(20:15):
So it's a crazy time right now.
It's a crazy time, man.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Because obviously, as you know, we got a different
set of eyes on us these days asopposed to the years before.
You know like the people wantto hear hardcore, but the thing
about hardcore is not giving thefuck what the people want.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Just like play hardcore, right, right.
Also, I'm 34 and I can't keepwild Like I'm certain for you.
You just have to grow up as awhole.
Stay in the world.
We're doing just fine over here, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a trip man.
It's a trip that's gonna be.
I'm looking forward to the newmusic man.
That's an exciting thing.
I know it's gonna be killer.
I know you're gonna knock itout of the park.
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Now back to the show.
You know you guys are doingSouth by Southwest coming up too
.
Is that your first time doingthat?
Have you done that before?
Feel like?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
we were down there around the same time as South by
, but we didn't actuallyparticipate in South by
sanctioned events.
So yeah, this will be our firsttime.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, yeah, I saw that there's a flat spot show at
the Mohawk right and thenthat's gonna be the-.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No one told me, so we got three shows that weekend.
I just thought we were flyingin.
I'm kidding, I thought we wereflying in during the one.
Going home they were like yes,so we're playing three of them
in two days.
Have fun.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Dude, that's honestly dude.
That's you're getting away easywith that Cause South by is
notorious for that.
It's like, oh, we're gonna.
You know you're playing thisLevi's party and then you know
this company's doing that, andthen there's a record label
doing this over here and you endup I mean, dude, it's such a
you know it's a good time, dude,it's a good time, but you
(22:48):
always end up playing your assoff and you always end up
playing at least twice a day.
You know what I mean.
So I know I know you guys willhave fun.
I fuck with Austin, texas, man,it's a cool.
It's a cool fucking city andmusic.
Cool city for punk and forhardcore.
That's dope, that'll be good.
And what else you guys gotcoming up this year of show wise
(23:09):
.
You got tied down to Troy.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I would say we got tied down to Detroit and I
believe in May we're gonna hitthe road with Drain.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, with a Drain style pair.
It's like a whole.
How do we have first full USBoom?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, hell yeah.
That's gonna be sick, dude,that's gonna be sick.
And you guys?
You guys went to Europe lastyear, right?
How's Europe for you guys?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, we went to Europe twice.
We actually get a pretty goodresponse in as much as my own
personal feelings about thecountry in Germany in relation
to how the people were.
It was fine, but I enjoy goingto Europe.
I really like the Netherlands alot, yeah, yeah yeah, but we
spent most of our time inGermany.
(23:57):
Shout out, stick to your guns.
Yeah, hell yeah, yeah they crushover in Germany, dude, so like
I said I'm from Baltimore, I'man American through and through,
so I had no care or concernwhat happens in Germany.
Yeah, you know, I didn't knowthat.
Stick to your guns can go playto 3,000 people in Germany and
(24:21):
like clean up for real, Likeit's different over there
because they're excited room.
Our excited room, our excitedroom, mass pain, people kill
each other.
Their excited room is oh, thisentire room knows the words.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's crazy, that is fucking crazy, it was cool, it
was a good time.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, did you ever?
Did you get any experience withGerman press?
Did you get to do anyinterviews over there?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I did an interview in Paris, I didn't.
If I did do an interview inGermany, I don't remember it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
They're like it's like blunt honesty, but it just
comes across as just like it didit so funny.
It's just like your new recordis not very good.
Why.
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Why, why, why don't you have black shirts?
Well, these are, we got grayand we got white, but a black
shirt.
Can I try it on?
Sure, try the shirt on, I guesswhat?
Yeah, they're interesting,fucking crap.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, man, I wanna wrap with you real quick about
the art of being a front man.
Being a front person, okay,being up on that stage for you,
what's your feeling, what'sgoing through your mind and what
being a front person of a bandmeans to you and what you think
it's all about.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well, obviously you the face, and more often not the
voice, of the band, at least inmy instance.
My dudes don't have as much ofan internet or social media
presence as myself, so any goofyshit I say or accidentally say
is on their shoulders.
I'm mostly the vocalist for aband because that's the, the
(26:01):
instrument I've been given thetalent to play.
You know what I mean.
And a lot of people, a lot ofpeople, don't really understand
sometimes because, like I said,I'm mad ignorant in some regard.
I didn't know that dudes wouldjoin, but like I knew it, but it
never really clicked that likea dude would join a band to try
to gain female attention.
You know what I mean.
(26:22):
So, like in the, I had torealize in the course of me
being up there doing my statethat a lot of people think I'm
doing that To intentionally beentertaining.
You know what I mean.
Like I came up here with anagenda and a purpose, but the
purpose is just to play thesesongs.
Yeah, goofy shit in between iscuz well, I'm here, I might as
(26:45):
well talk, because that'sactually how I exist.
Those same conversations willbe happening If no one else was
in the room, because I'mactually out of my fucking mind.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know what I mean.
All the good ones are baby.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So I just uh, like I said, I'm the vocalist because I
don't if I play bass I'd be abassist, but I'm the vocalist,
so it's just what I do.
Enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's the.
You know there's.
There's no greater feeling.
I mean, you know I'm sure thereare some better feelings out
there, but we're on stage andthe band is ripping and you know
you got the crowds going offand you know, in between songs
You're just fucking lightenpeople up or saying what you
want to say and it's just allhappening.
It's.
(27:32):
It's one of the coolest thingsin the world and and like you
said, you know, like being inthe band, it's just, you know
everyone contributes, everyone'sdoing their own thing and I
just really can't wait to seeyou guys live man, because from
the videos I've seen and thepeople I've talked to about it,
it's just an incredibleexperience and I love that.
Crazy, like rock and roll, punkrock, hardcore energy.
(27:55):
Like I like the unpredictable,I like a little bit of chaos, I
like to walk into a room andkind of, like you know, have to
keep my head on a swivel alittle bit.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You used to feel that at every show.
Yes, yes, and it's not justbecause we've gotten older, it
was legit.
Like last time I was in here Isaw a block fall out of
someone's pants leg, so I don'treally know what's gonna go on.
All of those dudes in thecorner got the same shade on and
they're very big, and I got awalk-o.
(28:32):
Let's do it, you may I miss one, like I didn't know if I was
gonna make it home alive, youknow.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So what you're when you're writing lyrics?
Are you writing all the time ordo you just write when there's
music to be to be Written?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
so, like I'm always freestyle and something I got
here from hip-hop like I camehere from rapping, so I always
got something in the chamber ifnecessary.
But in terms of like right,unless I wake up and really
remember something that I knowis gonna be good, I mostly just
right in a moment.
What's, what's your rap?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
background.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So, um, my two old, my oldest brother Was in a rap
group when he was in a MarineCorps.
Called torture in the chamberand he came home and he had All
the studio equipment, everything, like I'm talking when the cord
Triton was like we had a Tritonand it was like, oh shit, he
really swears on it.
And then no, those two.
(29:30):
So that's my only this brother.
I'm one of three, so my secondoldest brother is that's
actually my blood brother and meand him, you know, we grew up
together and he'll be like yougive me 16 and I try to be all
shine, shape Because he's sevenyears old me.
So I would say no and he wouldthree-piece me and then I'd be
(29:50):
like, okay, and so that's how Ilearned how to freestyle and rap
.
Really just been in the studiomy whole life and everything.
When we first our first album,the boys will let you.
The guys up in the band at thattime were kind of amazed like
damn, he really only take liketwo, three takes right, yet yeah
.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, we don't have time.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
We don't have time for this.
Like you just wrote it, now gospit it.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
No, so do you have.
Are there releases out therethat people can listen to?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
um, there's one or two songs on YouTube you can
look up a kill God.
Like my first name, a k il,then gld, and just the letter c,
and and some of that shit willpop up hell yeah but I was
always.
I was always been a hardcorekid.
I never ventured into the hiphop scene or wanting to do, none
of that.
My brothers did club music fora while and then I found this
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hardcore shit like they.
They went that way and I wentthis way.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, yeah.
It's cool though how it all youknow I mean at all Musically
speaking ties into each other.
You know You've been able tofreestyle and you know getting
the the chance to record andthen you know getting into a
hardcore band and all that stuff.
It's all connected, man, it'sall connected and you know it
all you know Kind of feeds intoyour creative process, which is
cool to know.
(31:06):
You know you mentioned, youmentioned you're working at a
tattoo shop.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Are you a tattoo artist or no, no, I would never
so Shout out.
Dear Durakian triple crowntattoo up in Towson.
Dean sees me be on the road andwhatnot and she's like you know
I need a counterperson and youwill be great.
So I just work counting andit's the best job anyone can
answer.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, hell, yeah, hell, yeah.
Well, it's sick.
This is the sailor Jerrypodcast.
Norman Collins was one of thegodfather Traditional tattooing,
so that's pretty fuckingawesome.
What was the?
What was your first tattoo?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
My first tattoo was skinhead inside my lip.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh yeah, what about your latest tattoo was last one
you got.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Oh, I got this humbly well for my face.
Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I was gonna say what do you feel about people going
under anesthesia to get tatted?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
We would talk about that shit last night at work.
No, that's cheating, likethat's half the.
So, if anything is a commentaryon the world, you want some
shit that represents Strife anddiligence, but you don't want to
have to put forth or deal withany strike and no, no, that's a
(32:30):
cowards way out.
This shit hurt and it's notcool or fun.
I had a couple people yesterdayI worked yesterday.
Oh, do you suggest any numbing?
And I'm like you shouldn't numbit because, like, if I go to
pierce you, right and that partof the body is numb and you
react poorly to the piercinginitially because the body parts
(32:54):
numb, how do we know if this isgood or bad?
The body can take care ofitself.
It reacts.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
No, I don't like it.
Yeah, Also they get like fullbody please For some sick shit.
Nah, fuck that.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I saw this one headline today where it was like
a guy got like four tattoos andlike dental work done while he
was like under and I was likewhat the fuck's going on Like?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
why are you doing that?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
All right, a couple more questions, akil.
I don't want to keep you toolong here, man.
A couple questions to go alongwith the player headers ball
video for Hate Keeper that youhad A couple.
We're going to call us the hatesection.
What is your least favoriteinstrument?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Maybe clarinet.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, clarinet, not a giant fan of clarinet.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I like most woodwinds .
The old one kind of pissed meoff, but like I get it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Mine's a harmonica.
I hate the harmonica yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I've been given a very strict no harmonica on the
full length policy, which has myheart as a Billy Joel fan.
I'm like not even a little bit.
I'll put it in a skit.
No, get prepared for the skitson this full length too.
Oh really, yeah, we takingadvantage of like that early 90s
shit, just throw a skit man,why not Good, good, good.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, you need skits.
You know, Snoop Dogg records,Dr Dre records, all those.
Oh God, they were so good.
Oh, like.
W shit yeah W balls, all right.
What's the worst genre of music?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'd have to say gospel music.
But like gospel music got somebangers and I'm black and I
can't say that out loud, I don'tknow.
In the most cliche way, I likeall music because I went to
school for it.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So like oh nice, I didn't know that.
Where do you?
Went to school for music.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, I had to have two scholarship opportunities
for vocal performance.
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I want to get home and high school.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I went to high school center for vocal performance.
So do that stick, man.
I can really sheet music andyou know I was a tenor and did
all that shit, but I was stillgoing to shows and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's fucking dope dude.
I love that.
Yeah, I love that.
There's, you know, like adeeper musical, you know well
than what people might see fromthe surface.
Man, that's really fucking cooland it makes sense, like you
know.
You dig in a little deepervocally, you know it makes sense
.
I could tell that's somethingyou really really care about.
That's fucking cool.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, well, you're breathing and you're phrasing.
You know what I say.
You got to get it all workstogether, yeah.
And then the hip hop.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
That's two.
We're going to go.
We're going to go pick one here, ok.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
OK.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Stage dive or slam dance.
Slam dance, nice Street art orfine art, street art John Joseph
or Harley Taylor's, beyonce orTaylor Swift?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Beyonce.
The Swifties got not as that onthe day man, they tried to pop
in that shit.
I basically said, like y'alllove Taylor Swift because y'all
like easily digestible shitHospital food, bland, no salt,
get it, don't even mix.
And they were so upset theycouldn't even decide for the
(36:12):
argument.
They think I'm talking shit onTaylor.
Get at how you live, sweetheart.
She's a billionaire.
I'm an asshole.
What I'm getting at is the factthat y'all had enabled her to
become a billionaire, when allshe's doing is cutting the crust
off her white bread she didn'teven put in that normal
motherfucker and y'all eat it up.
It's insane.
She ain't toasting, it Ain't nobutter.
(36:34):
I think they just oh damn, Ilove her so much.
I've seen a quirky white bitchbefore.
Like, too, I love that.
That's how it all.
Who am I?
I need to stop.
You need to stop.
She's probably a great lady.
I don't care.
She's just some white lady fromPennsylvania.
Dog, calm down, calm down, soshe heel flip.
(36:56):
Because if she came out thereand does like a heel flip, I was
like Taylor, you got it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
If Taylor dropped the heel, flip that would be.
That would change a lot ofthings, I think, and Taylor
couldn't dolly inward heel.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'd be like I'm just trying to fuck up, you got it,
but she can't.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Hell yeah, what about a youth of today?
Or gorilla biscuits?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Gorilla biscuits.
Shout out to Sam.
Shout out to our office.
Shout out to Charlie.
Shout out to all of them.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Love them, love them, oh yeah.
Draker Kanye Holmgay, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I was drop out.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, heypreet, or terror.
Sorry, scott Heypreet.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh, heypreet, all right, so hand me out.
It's funny that you would makeme do this, but I'm going to do
it.
So when I started getting intothis, remember I had no mental
for real.
So all the white boys wearingthe terror shirts were doing
were like mashing.
But I'm a new jack, but I'mstill like a crust, like a punk.
So I'm still doing that likecircle pits, not karate, kick
(37:55):
shit.
So I would see that shit and belike I hate that going on.
You know it'll be like why arethey doing that?
And then I turned like no, Istarted having sex.
And then I was like I get it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Wait, so are you saying that there's a
correlation between not havingsex in circle pits and having
sex and hardcore dancing?
Yes, in my world, all right.
Ice tea or body count, bodycount, nice, nice, all right,
trash talk, or trapped under ice.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
TY, baby, yeah, TY, I mean trash talk is trash talk,
but TY, that's the holy, that'sfamily right there.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
That's true.
That's true.
All right, Last two questionshere.
If Bill and Ted came down, theyhad the time machine with them.
They said yo, Keele, anywhereyou want to go in history, let's
go.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Tell me where you want to go and why I'm going to
need them to drop me in eitherColombia or Florida circa 1978,
1982.
You feel me?
We going to get busy one time.
Take me there.
Take me there, poppy.
I'm Dominican.
I'm not black, I'm Dominican.
I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
All right.
Last question what do you,Akhil Godzi, is the meaning of
life?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I had no idea what the meaning of life is.
I tell you what you should be.
Just follow the rule Treateverybody the way you would like
to be treated.
It's real simple.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Hell yeah, man.
Awesome, akhil.
I just want to say thank youvery much, my man, for being on
the Say the Jerry podcast.
Thank you for having me.
It's been a pleasure man.
So everybody keep a lookout forEnd it.
This year they got a lot ofstuff going on New music in the
works Shows all over the US.
Thanks again for your time,akhil.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right on.
Thanks for having me.
I'll take it easy.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh yeah, that's a wrap on episode 64 of the Say
the Jerry podcast.
As always, huge amount ofrespect and gratitude to our
guest, the one and only AkhilGodzi of End it.
Akhil, thank you so much foryour time and energy.
My man, it was awesome talkingto you.
You can follow Akhil at alonein Akhil on Instagram.
(40:10):
You can follow End it onInstagram, of course, and watch
out for them on the road in 2024.
They got that big tour withDrain just announced.
They got tied down in Detroitand, of course, south by
Southwest, right around thecorner in Austin, texas.
And also huge shout out to BuffMonster for swinging through in
(40:31):
the monologue to say what up?
Always good to get some timewith the Buff one.
So thank you very much, buffMonster.
Look out for that Minionscollab that dropped today.
You can follow me at 2-3 Matman.
You can follow Say the Jerry atSay the Jerry, I'll see you in
two weeks.
Peace, slowly.
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