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June 27, 2024 35 mins

The one and only Scene Queen joins us to discuss the decade-long grind that inspired her debut album, "Hot Singles in Your Area." Plus, the Queen addresses the term "industry plant" and the misconceptions surrounding rapidly successful female artists. We also dive into her unapologetic themes of sexual empowerment, her legendary Download Festival performance, the "twerkle pit," and her upcoming Summer School Tour. As always, brought to you by Sailor Jerry!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
yo what up scene, queen, hello how you doing I'm
good.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Um, you're gonna have to ignore the like mass pile of
clothing on my bed right now.
My entire closet fell over,like the entire like bar that
everything was hanging oncollapsed.
So quite literally all of myjackets and dresses are on my
bed right now.
But this also demonstrates howinvested I am in the pinkness of

(00:29):
it all.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I was gonna ask you know,I saw your tweet this morning
and I know you've had a hell ofa day, so how you doing?
Are you hanging in there, Okay?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm so much better now to be honest.
To be honest like literally myfans are so helpful.
They literally gave me laundryinstructions on how to like
clean up my bed because Ispilled coffee on it.
And I'm like and it comesacross in my like album that I
have coming out a lot and justlike in general with this
project, but like terriblethings are gonna happen to you
in life all the time and you'retotally valid for like getting

(01:05):
upset and making like a songscreaming about it.
But then, past that, like youjust have to learn to laugh at
the situation because ifanything that can happen, will
happen, and it's usuallystressful oh, of course, yeah,
absolutely, and it alwayshappens on like a press day or a
day yeah exactly a lot of stuffgoing on.
You know my favorite press dayof all time was um.

(01:28):
I played slam dunk in the ukand I got dropped on my head
while I was crowd surfing likethey tried to send me over the
barricade, um, and securitydidn't catch me, so I fell six
feet directly onto a metal grateon the back of my head, so I
was like I had a severeconcussion and I was wiping
blood from my head and they'relike you want to do this radio

(01:49):
shot.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Get her to the press tent.
I went right to press tent andI swear like.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I have no recollection of those like
videos, but I watched thembecause I was like I want to
know what I said and I did fine,so I guess in the end it was
okay.
Said and I did fine, so I guessin the end it was okay.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
That's amazing.
That's amazing, yeah, well, youknow Scene Queen.
I mean we are honored to haveyou here on the Sailor Jerry
podcast today.
Really appreciate you takingthe time with everything you got
going on.
It's awesome to talk with you.
I kind of wanted to start outwith a little bit of current
events here, because yourecently just absolutely crushed

(02:26):
Download Festival and it's oneof my favorite festivals and you
know.
All reports back to the frontwas that it was an absolutely
incredible set and for thosepeople who don't know, there's
so much history with Download,with rock and metal, now that
you've had a little bit of timeto come down, if you could
reflect on it and for those ofus who weren't there, what was

(02:48):
it like for you?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Honestly, that's the first show I had so much fun and
thank God I feel like I was inmy bag in that show in terms of
my cracking jokes and stuff butthat was the first show that I
ever experienced where theentire set start to finish.
I was like I'm actually scaredlike there's so many people

(03:09):
right now that like I, I'mstressed out, but honestly I
don't know what a privilege tobe able to get to play to that
many people like it.
Truly, I never thought that Iwould get to where I am in my
career in general, but like todo so within like four years of
its inception is kind of insaneto me.
Um, but also, just like I don'tknow, that set had so many like

(03:34):
insanely fun things that I justdidn't.
There was an entire pit ofpeople dressed in blow-up
pikachu costumes.
So when I opened up the twerklepit, it was just a bunch of
Pikachus throwing ass around.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You know I've never heard the twerkle pit before.
That's a first for me.
That's pretty amazing Twerkingin a circle pit.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
You gotta try it sometime, as much as I make fun
of myself and my music and havethings like the twerkle pit.
The twerkle pit is weirdly thegreatest icebreaker and vibe
setting thing for a show ever,because if you have the courage
to twerk in a circle pit, atthat point nothing else can

(04:20):
bother you, and anyone thatwatches you twerk in the circle
pit also can't be nervous,because they're like, well,
clearly that person's not goingto judge me, they just twerked
in the circle pit.
So then the vibes for the restof the show from then then on
out are just people like down todo the most insane, feral
things in the crowd, which islike the most immaculate vibe.

(04:41):
It's exactly what you want.
So I try and put that in song,two or three if possible super
early in the set just to get thecrowd going out the gate.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Smart move.
Smart move Activate the twerklepit.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
All right here.
So you know, let's talk aboutyour new album, because your
debut album Hot Singles in yourArea.
Congratulations Scene Queen.
Thank you, thank you, yeah,yeah, yeah.
And before we kind of dive intothe record itself, I just want
to give our listeners a littlebit of background on how you got
up to this point, becauseeveryone's creative journey is

(05:18):
always a little bit differentand unique.
So, kind of leading up tomaking this album, going back a
little bit, how did your kind oflove for music and art and
creativity, how did that alltake shape?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Heights since I was, you know, eight years old.
Just because she she also I wasborn in upstate New York, so
she was very involved in likethe early 2000s New York and
then like New Jersey scene.
So she was one of the firstpeople I knew to know about like
my chemical romance and stuff.
So she like kind of introducedme to alternative music.
And then going forward, youknow, when I was in like the
2010s and like 2000s, that waswhen I discovered all these like

(06:08):
post hardcore bands, likeSleeping With Sirens, pierce the
Veil, bring Me the Horizon, etc.
And like metalcore bands thatlike I realized I really liked
those heavy guitars andoccasional screaming.
So that was kind of where Ileaned within the alternative
space.
And then, around like 2015, Imoved out to Los Angeles and my

(06:34):
goal when I was moving out therewas, like I'm going to work in
alternative music, like that'salways what I wanted, but then
being in the industry and thenalso it being being 2015 and,
like you know, all these bands,like having things come out on
Twitter and yada, yada, yada, Irealized that like the scene
didn't feel like a safe spacefor women really.
So I left the alternative spacealtogether in 2015.

(06:59):
And I decided that I wanted togo into the songwriting world
because initially, when I movedout there, I just like it's
funny to think about now BecauseI said the reason I didn't want
to be an artist is because Ididn't want to have to worry
about people's perception of meand social media.
And now I am known as the socialmedia girl to all of my friends

(07:20):
.
Like my label when I firstsigned like I was the one that
they were like you should golook at what scene queens doing
on TikTok.
She's on it like whatever.
So that became my life, withoutme knowing that that was what
it was going to do, butthankfully it comes pretty
naturally to me.
But either way, I wanted to gointo the songwriting world but I
was writing in the like pop andhip hop space and I've always

(07:42):
kind of liked that too.
Like I grew up with 2000s, likepop icons you know I allude a
lot to Britney Spears and ParisHilton and like Kesha and these
sort of people in my music allthe time and also like sonically
draw a lot of reference fromthose as well.
So I was down to write and popstumbled into the hip hop world,
fell in love with thatimmediately too.

(08:03):
But then during the pandemic,when everything started
happening, I moved back in withmy parents in ohio just because
everything was closed down in laand I didn't want to be by
myself.
So I was living with them and Iwas like I don't really
resonate with any of this, likehappy music.
I think I like genuinely needto get stuff out by listening to
, like alternative and likeemail music.

(08:23):
So I fell back into that worldagain and then started a TikTok
and I was like I've been out ofthis realm for a minute now.
So I downloaded TikTok just toreach out to different like
communities and like findfriends that were still in the
alternative space and built likea small following on TikTok,
just making like content aboutnostalgic things in the

(08:44):
alternative scene, and Irealized very soon that the
scene hadn't changed much sinceI left it.
But I released a song and it wasactive rock initially and for
whatever reason that took off onTikTok.
I think it was just because Ihad this like following of
people that followed me for likemusic related content.
And then I dropped a song andthey were just kind of like I

(09:04):
don't know, you could sing, andthen it like blew up and got
like a couple million views andthen put me in contact with my
record label.
But when they reached out to meI was like I have to be honest,
I don't like this song anymore.
So I sent them a bunch of demosof this like kind of
experimental blend of genres andthey were like we think we have
the right person for you.
And thank god they said thatbecause they introduced me to my

(09:26):
producer, zach jones, who I'vedone every single steen queen
song with.
Like I don't think I'll everwork with any other producer
like or at least like if he'snot executive producing on it
too like I.
Just he gets my brain so muchand I feel like I every time I
leave a session I love that songmore and more and more.
So we kind of like worktogether on everything and then

(09:49):
had like a revolving door oflike friends that I would bring
in to co-write on stuff with me,just because I like to switch
genres so much.
So, having someone that canlike dial it in because, like
obviously, zach and I loveexperimenting with genres so
much Lyrically, I'm coming in.
You know I have a male producer, so he's not getting 90% of
what I'm talking about in thesong.

(10:10):
He's also not queer, so hedoesn't get all of those
references that.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I'm talking about either.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but he loves the sound of it.
So he's like, yeah, let's dothat.
So I'm like you know, bringingall these like niche ideas in,
so I bring in friends that kindof help us like dial it in and
combine the two of us to makethis like cool sound.
I don't know.
It's funny because during thepandemic I was also just
listening to a bunch ofexperimental artists.

(10:36):
I was listening to Wargasm, Iwas listening to Babymetal, um,
and a handful of others, andthen it just so happened that
like once, once my stuff tookoff, I ended up touring with all
of those people and then theylike ended up being on my album
and different things.
So it is funny how the worldworks out.
But it was about like 10 yearsof getting it wrong in music

(10:57):
before I finally like got itright.
But the moment that I did getit right in music, it like
immediately worked for me.
So I'm like Thankfully I buriedall of my old demos somewhere
in the cloud that no one willfind them, because there is a
lot of terrible, terrible,terrible material made by Hannah
out there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's really cool, though, about your journey,
because you know and the wayit's been validated with you
know the response and your fanbase loving Scene Queen.
So much response and your fanbase loving Scene Queen so much.
It's an incredible thing, andyou know whether you're a huge
artist or a small artist.
There's so many things thathave to happen and come together

(11:39):
for it all to click.
You know like, and it's reallycool that it's all happening for
you.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's so funny now seeing the internet's like
strange attachment to picking upthe word industry plant and
throwing it onto an artist.
Yeah, and I feel like I onlyever truly see it this often
with all of my like femaleartist friends.
But if they see a woman likebecoming very successful very
fast but they have no likeawareness of how they did it or

(12:06):
I've never seen them before, itimmediately becomes an industry
plant thing.
But it's just like again, I hadalmost a decade of getting
things horribly wrong beforeanything stuck and then before I
like even had this connectionthat may have brought me to
whatever.
So then I ended up signing toHopeless for the first um EP and
then this record, and I justended up re-signing them because

(12:29):
I was like you guys took me onfor absolutely no reason, like I
had one song, built somewhat ofa fan base and then changed the
style, so a lot of those fansdidn't even end up coming with
me.
I just lucked out that my firstscene queen song angered, like
metal elitist so much that they,like you know, angered my way

(12:49):
into blowing up that song.
But like they, you know, stucktheir leg out for me and a lot
of labels probably wouldn't havedone that.
And then like thank god itworked out and they've never
like deterred me from doinganything creatively, like I have
so much freedom to be myself asan artist and what have you so
like?
I don't know.
It's just funny now, becauseit's like that comment now also

(13:11):
just like irks me in the sensethat I'm like how dare you say
that little hopeless recordswould ever do something?
That like, what's that mean?
yeah, no, absolutely, and you'reright about you know, there is
like a really weird thing withfemale artists and the industry
plant tag, which is bullshit,you know and, like you, end up
having the success for music,because it's like years and

(13:34):
years of preparation for onemoment that may or may not stick
at the end of the day.
And that's the whole thing withthe music industry too, is it's
it's so much rejection all thetime, like tours, that you get
put up for that.
Like you find out you're beingput up for that.
You're like god, I would loveto go on that you get put up for
that.
You find out you're being putup for that.
You're like God, I would loveto go on that You're not going
to get that one, but four yearslater you're going to get a
better.
I turned down recently a tourthat I would have loved to do,

(13:59):
but I was just like financiallyI just can't do this tour, and I
was so mad at the universe forthat tour.
Just because the routing was so,so long and like whatever, it
just would have been like comingoff of a different tour would
have been a lot for me to do.
And then I get this email abouttwo days later and my manager

(14:20):
calls me because I'm in, um, I'min like germany on this paris
tour, like, uh, support openingfor them.
And he's like laughing and I'mlike what happened?
And he was like, oh, it's babymetal.
And I was like what?
And he was like and it's ashort tour and you can do it.
And I was like Are you kiddingme?
And he was like no, I'm notkidding.

(14:42):
And I like audibly screamedbecause I have a manager that
has seen me through like some ofthe most difficult times in my
life, like you know, becoming amusician, and like when I first
started like tracking thesedemos and stuff for my project,
I quite literally didn't haveenough money.
I didn't have a car at the time, I didn't have enough money to
make it to the session.

(15:02):
I couldn't afford a Lyft or anUber.
And like if we were going atnight, like it just wasn't safe
for me to go on a bus at likemidnight to get there Because
they were also putting me in thenight session because they're
like we're not going to get paidenough, like I have to do two
sessions in addition to this.
So he was driving me to and fromall of these sessions and he
asked me like on the way,because we get stuck in traffic

(15:25):
or what have you like, it'd belike an hour long drive for him.
He was like, like what is yourlist of bands you'd want to tour
with?
And I like, being me, had onelist where I'm like these are
bands I could feasibly see.
Like right now I would be firstof four on the tour they could
take me out.
Um, because they don't needtheir first of four to be
someone that really sellstickets.
They just like want to bealigned with, you know, whatever

(15:47):
yeah or I have the delusionalside which is like these are
huge bands and they want you tocome out because they want it to
be like a cool, like moment,sonically and whatever, and
people know about you andwhatever.
And like one day maybe I'll getto have these tours, but I
highly doubt it.
And on that list was babymetaland I always put that on there

(16:09):
because I was like also withBabymetal they're so extremely
professional in all capacitiesand all sides of their music and
artist project business,whatever.
So they're so extremelyselective with who they take out
because they have a lot touphold and their fan base really
, really respects them.
So the fact that I got thatoffer I never would have thought

(16:30):
I would be able to get thatanyway but like the fact that it
was one of the bands that, likeafter all of those years of
like having you know, all theseno's and rejection and then
feeling let down that I couldn'tdo, that one tour that I would
have loved, like that was theband specifically was like this
weird full circle moment forsure.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Dang.
That's crazy, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
You know I want to talk a little bit here about
sexual empowerment, which is abig theme of the record.
Okay, yes, some of your lyricsI mean most of your lyrics are
all the way, all the way outthere, which is the best
Speaking a little bit to that.
You know how important issexual empowerment to you.

(17:15):
Do you censor yourself ever?
Are there scene queen lyricsout there that are just too much
?
You don't want to put it outthere?
Or how do you when you'rewriting?
You know how do you?
How do you work your waythrough it?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I've yet to have that in the writing sense.
I think people are shocked todiscover that in my day-to-day
life I'm like very introvertedand also reserved, but the whole
point of my you know supersexually explicit lyrics, like
when I am scene queen.
Obviously I'm driving mypersonality up to 110, but I
think by having like the mostsexually explicit lyrics, people

(17:50):
are obviously always going todial back what an artist says
like it's like when peoplelisten to rap songs they're not
doing half the stuff that likethe rap song they're like
listening to but it makes youfeel like a little bit better
about your personality and alittle bit cooler and like your
fit looks better that day, likewhen you listen to a rap song.
So I kind of like have the sameapproach where I'm like I was

(18:12):
sexually repressed for so long.
I was also closeted for so muchof my life.
I was one of those people thatdidn't come out as like queer
until I was in my 20s and thenjust like so nervous about sex.
You know, with all the traumathat you're going to have in
your life, you deserve to have alittle bit of pleasure and I
think there's nothing wrong withlike expressing that through

(18:33):
music and I try and do it in themost like intense way because I
just know that like if I do it,people won't be shy about it
for themselves.
They like won't be shy aboutasking someone like is this okay
during sex?
Or I prefer not to do thatbecause I'm saying the most like
intensely feral things so thatlike small things seems a little
less embarrassing, because itshouldn't be embarrassing.

(18:54):
You know, like we should allfeel comfortable and then, like
I don't know, this first albumthat I have like coming out of,
like this debut album, kind oftells the tale of like what that
was like for me.
You have your coming of agestory, like in your teens.
You know that everyone talksabout, there's a million movies
about it, but also you have thislike second adolescence, when

(19:14):
you like first become an adult,where you're like actually
finding out things aboutyourself.
It's not what anyone told youabout yourself, you know, yeah,
and I wrote this song about likemy early to or like this album
about my early to mid-20s andnow like that it's coming out.
I'm in my late 20s, um, and it'sjust like my first experiences
as a queer person and like.
I have a song on there likecalled oral fixation, which is

(19:37):
essentially like going back intothe dating world in your 20s
and like figuring out who Ithought I was and all this stuff
and feeling independent andconfident in myself.
And then I went into the datingworld and I was like, oh my god
, I'm so awkward and I have nogame and like all this stuff and
like oral fixation is justabout having word vomit when you
like someone and like notknowing how to express yourself,

(19:57):
but like I feel like the wholealbum just kind of goes through
that.
So much of like you can betotally sexually empowered, you
can be fully confident, you canadvocate for yourself but also
make fun of yourself a littlebit and I think people like
forget that too.
Like I know who I am, I knowhow I deserve to be treated and

(20:18):
I refuse to take less than that.
But also I'm allowed to makejokes at myself because humans
are multifaceted and that ismore real to who I am, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's take a couple questionsfrom the internet here.
Okay, Okay, we got Dear SceneQueen.
Not that we would need one,because fuck the patriarchy.
But if you wanted to pick ascene king, who would it be and
why?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
so, okay, ironically, my boyfriend now gets like, um,
a bunch of bracelets that sayscene king on them and he's in a
pop punk band, which is funnyin hindsight, because I have all
this stuff like talking shitabout pop punk bands and men
that tour and whatever, and likeI have a song on the album
called BDSM which stands forbeat down slut metal but also

(21:11):
big, dumb, stupid men.
Um, it's a song that, like theintro track is just saying, like
scene queen hates men, and itcame from this like place of on
the internet.
I was getting so many peoplethat would just criticize me or
like say that I hate men.
Seriously, they're gonna hatethis album anyway, so I'll put

(21:45):
that in there as song onebecause they won't listen to the
rest of it and it like doesn'tmake sense for them to listen to
the rest of it.
I'm like intentionally creatinga fan base that I would like to
be a part of.
So, with the scene king thing,it is funny knowing all of that
now that he's like a guy in apop punk band and like he, like
he tries very hard to like myfans will like dm him and stuff,

(22:09):
and they'll be like, treat herright hey, it's hard being the
king but he has a little songabout him on the album.
So for all of the like sceneking stress, I've put him
through.
I did give him a song at theend of it and it's my only
wholesome track on the record isthat climax?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Climax Is that the song?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, it's cool because Climax is both like I
wrote it, you know, with mysignificant other in mind, but I
also kind of wrote it openended, in the sense that like
it's also a little love letterto my fans.
Like I'm talking about how toughthe music industry is and like
how exhausting touring is andfeeling like one day your music
is hot and now it's old and likeall of this stuff, but like the

(22:49):
one thing that you have is likeyour support system behind you.
So like I wrote a little loveletter to both of them and I
think it's like I don't know,it's kind of a cool way to wrap
it up, because I did have thatwhole album about like finding

(23:11):
myself and being seen queen andlike everything that happened to
me that felt like it wasnecessary to become scene queen
and what made this project whatit is.
And then also like findingmyself and my sexuality, but
kind of ends on this note thatlike as important as it is to be
independent, like you can alsolean on people from time to time
, that's like totally fine,every person needs that, you
know.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
All right, so this one goes out to the haters right
here.
Okay, hey, scene queen, if youcould somehow gather all your
haters into one room and youwere handed a microphone, what
would you tell them?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
So it's funny, I have this like whole shtick.
I have a song called pink hoteland basically, like that song
is just the you know hook of itis, I put the hoe in hotel and
when I did a tour it was with myboyfriend's band because he
showed me this message.
It was from this like britishperson that wrote in the most

(24:00):
like british way imaginable.
That was just like this is a hoewith her bits out, like
whatever, or something like thatand I would I would go on stage
every night and I'd be likeyou're right, you're so right I
am, and like, do a little twerk,because I'm like.
I literally call myself a hoein the song.
Why are you using that as likea insult right now?

(24:22):
That doesn't work.
Like, pick something that Iwouldn't say about myself as a
joke, you know?
Um, but then I would say, like,into the mic, I'm like, and my
advice to this person would bebefore you talk about hoes, I
would suggest getting some hoesfirst, and that is like a quote
that I live by.
Every time someone has a hatecomment for me, I'm like, I

(24:43):
don't know, you could hate oryou could be seen queen, instead
I would prefer to be seen.
It seems more fun to be meright now, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Absolutely All right.
We got some pickums here, soI'm going to give you a couple
options.
You pick which one you like.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
We're going to start, uh, we're gonna start with, uh,
my chemical romance or falloutboy.
That's so hard.
My guitar player is gonna killme because he's the most intense
mcr fan, but I think I listento fallout boy a little more
often, so I'll go fallout boynice uh panic at the disco or
paramore paramore uh friends orfollowers friends for sure, but
um, in the career sense I dorely heavily on followers, so

(25:29):
don't unfollow me please forthat answer uh, the used or
taking back sunday oh, I'm gonnago to use, I think okay, uh,
books or moviesum, so there was this like rumor
going around that my fans likelovingly spread.
That was that I can't read.

(25:49):
But it's because anytime I tryand read my set list, I like
accidentally skip a, like a song.
If I actually am payingattention to the set list, I
will not play that song.
Um, and it's happened nowmultiple times, so that, like
the whole thing about I can'tread, I'm not helping this by
saying a hundred percent movies.
I cannot sit down to read booksanymore.

(26:10):
I don't know what happened tomy brain.
I think I'm on the internet toomuch, but I like seldom finish
books.
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's awesome.
That's amazing.
That's a great rumor.
Metallica or Motorhead, I'll go.
Metallica, christina Aguileraor Britney Spears.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
That's so hard, I'll go Britney.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Lady Gaga or Fergie.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
See these pop girls are stressing me out.
I'll go, Lady Gaga.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
All right Street art.
Yeah, all right Street art.
Yeah, yeah, street art or fineart.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Street art for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Rihanna or Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Man, I go Rihanna because I want to smoke with
Rihanna, so bad.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Ooh, that would be so sick.
That would be so sick.
Uh, Ashley Simpson or JessicaSimpson.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Ah, I think I I listen to Ashley Simpson more
than I listened to Jessica.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, yeah, all right , awesome.
You know you got the summerschool tour right around the
corner, july 10th, kicking offin Cleveland, your debut
headlining tour, which isunbelievable, so congrats on
that.
People can follow you onlineand get tickets for that.
It's all over the internet.
Really appreciate your timetoday.

(27:27):
Scene Queen, it's been awesometalking to you, congrats on
everything you got going.
And our last question for you alittle bit of a doozy, but what
to you is the meaning of life?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
The meaning of life, of life, the meaning of life, I
think, to pet as many dogs aspossible in as many countries as
possible, as many breeds ofdogs as possible, finding ways
to get there.
I hope one day that I'm able tobe financially stable enough
that I can have a bus thatallows me to have a tour pet and

(28:03):
have a little dog withheadphones at my shows.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
One day, one day, Awesome.
Well, scene queen, thank you somuch.
Uh, appreciate you.
Congrats on the new album bigtour coming up.
Uh, thanks for your time hereon the Sailor Jerry podcast.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Thanks for having me.
This was wonderful talking toyou.
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