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Ancient Egyptian myths, shape-shifting aliens, and a young Jason Momoa - what do they all have in common? In this episode, we journey through the world of science fiction, uncovering hidden connections and celebrating the stories that shaped our imagination.
We explore classic franchises like Stargate Atlantis, Alien, Star Trek, and Star Wars, and trace sci-fi’s evolution from Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein through the golden age to today’s epic universes. Along the way, we dive into why practical effects still outshine CGI and why the Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate never gets old.
Plus, we share a declassified CIA document about Soviet soldiers encountering mysterious alien beings, and reflect on how sci-fi inspires us to dream bigger while tying into faith and culture.
We also kick off with exciting news about our live worship night on Friday, May 2nd - there's still time to join us! And we’re just a few followers away from being able to stream on Facebook, so your support means everything.
Whether you're a lifelong sci-fi fan or just curious about the genre, this episode is packed with stories, history, and wonder. Subscribe now and step into the unknown!
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each
week, your hosts dive into thecrossroads of faith, culture and
the unknown.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.
We are the Saints that Serve.
Hey everybody, welcome to theSaints that Serve podcast.
(00:41):
That's the Saints that Servepodcast, With your hosts I'm
Johnny.
And I'm Jairus and we got someannouncements for you In this
episode 33 of the podcast Heckyeah, baby Episode 33.
Hey, what announcements do youhave for this episode?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Fun fact, this Friday , May 2nd, we're going to be
doing another live streamworship night, because we did
that first one and it just wentso well.
Yeah, we had a really good time, so the guitar will be tuned up
with new strings.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's right, because you broke the strings on it
last time.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Right on your last song yeah, dude, the providence
of god showed through that lastsong.
At the very end of it, stringbroke you literally on your last
strum too.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It wasn't in the middle of the song, you were
literally going like ending outthe song.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yep, and the string broke and it popped and it was
like god was like you guys aregoing out with a bang, here we
go boo anyways.
So yeah, we're gonna do thatagain and it's gonna be this
Friday, may 2nd.
It's going to start off.
The live stream will start at6.30.
Mm-hmm, and then the music willstart at 7.
Right, but we'll be in the chatand there'll be a countdown.
You know a 30-minute countdownat 6.30.
(01:57):
So make sure that you aretuning in and just joining the
conversation, joining theworship time.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And just be prepared for a great worship night.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yep.
Well, as, like we did last time, we'll be posting updates
throughout the week on socialmedia and we'll be sharing links
to the live stream day of and.
Fun fact, we need to get acouple more people to like our
Facebook page for us to livestream on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I believe, as of the airing of this episode, we need
like maybe 12 or 13 peoples.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, it was not a lot.
They like require 100, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Which makes no sense.
It's like hey, you got to knowat least 100 people to reach out
to people.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
No, you got it.
It's like hey, you got to knowat least 100 people to reach out
to people.
No, you got it's not you knowthem, it's they've got.
You've got to have 100 peoplethat like your page.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That was kind of the joke I was going for, but you
know, well, we need 15 people tolike our or follow us on the
Saints that Serve podcastFacebook page Correct.
So if you're listening and yousay what is that?
That means you're not following.
That's right, which means whydon't you go out there and
(03:12):
follow?
You know we don't typically begfor, you know, likes or follows
or shares or anything like that, but on this particular one it
would help out a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, it would be great if you guys, because if we
can get 100 people to follow uson Facebook, then we can do
live streams on Facebook.
And if you're not a YouTuber ora Twitcher, maybe you can be a
facer, then you can be a facer.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So, yeah, guys, do that, or John and I are going to
have to make 15 fake accountsso we can reach out to y'all.
Yeah, yeah, have to make 15fake accounts so we can reach
out to y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, and that's a pain, so don't make us
do that, guys.
Don't make us make 15 differentemails just for this.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's going to be fake STS one, fake STS two.
Yeah, Watch.
It be something stupid too,where you get on there and it's
like you got to be a certain ageon your account before you can
follow people.
So it would be like, oh, youhave to be a member of Facebook
for X amount of time before youcan even follow.
(04:11):
Yeah, Because it was somethinglike that too, where our page
had to be a certain age beforewe could live stream on it.
Yeah, it was like three monthsbefore we could do live streams
on it.
Facebook is weird guys.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, each platform has weird stuff about it, but
anyway.
So yeah, live streams coming up.
If you're on Facebook and youhave not followed the Saints to
Serve podcast on Facebook, go dothat.
Just to help the Facebookpeople out.
They need to hear live worship,that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And if we don't get there?
You know Twitch and YouTube.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, yep, which, and yeah, we'll share links to
those.
For the most part, that's it.
You know, in June no, it'll beJuly We'll be doing another
inductive Bible study corecourse.
It'll be local, so if you'reinterested and you're in the
Georgia kind of West Atlantaarea, reach out at saints that
(05:10):
serve at gmailcom.
Yeah, and we'll get you set upand we'll give you more info.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And also that course is free.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah 100% free.
There's nothing you need to pay.
You just need to make a timecommitment.
It's four sessions, one hourper session.
So it'll be the month of July.
We'll meet four times for onehour and by the end of it, you
will be able to dive into God'sword Inductively.
Inductively and get context forscripture and be able to apply
(05:42):
it in your life the way it wasintended, and get context for
scripture and be able to applyit in your life the way it was
intended.
So there you go, there you go.
So, yeah, that's it as far asannouncements go.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
All right, so are you ready to get?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
sci-fi-y, yeah, yeah.
So, tyler, this is yourtransition.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
We are transitioning into the main topic of this
episode, which is what?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Sci-fi.
So I went the route of like Iwas just looking at putting
together notes for my favoritesci-fi, yeah, but I think you
went more the route of justsci-fi in general.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Kind of yeah.
So you came to me and you'relike let's.
I think you initially said andI hope I don't step on toes
about what you're going to talkabout yeah.
But you came to me andessentially said I want to talk
about a very specific sci-fishow and I said let's make it
about sci-fi.
(06:43):
Okay, in a general sense, yeah,and you interpreted that as
bringing forth sci-fi shows inmedia that you are interested in
and I've interpreted that asjust sci-fi in general and talk
about sci-fi which we can getinto shows and whatnot.
But I think that I'm such a bigsci-fi fan, yeah, that I enjoy
(07:07):
a majority of sci-fi.
Yeah, like all the thingsyou're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
if I haven't seen it, if I would watch it, I'd
probably be like, yeah, I'd likethat yeah, I get that and I
respect that and we'll call thisour intro to sci-fi and just
have like a little side playlist, that way every time we come
back to sci-fi we can refer.
Hey, this is the first episodewhere we talked about sci-fi,
but yeah, I wanted to talk aboutmy favorite show specifically
(07:35):
it has your favorite aquaman init, right uh?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
yeah, it does it's so weird to see like actors who
have made a big name forthemselves after hitting that
big break, whatever it is.
But it's like wait, jason momoais in stargate yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So there you go.
If you didn't know, uh, myfavorite sci-fi is star.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now is that Stargate Atlantis, Stargate SG-1?
I enjoy Stargate, Stargate,just Stargate.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I enjoy Stargate Atlantis, so I know the most
about Stargate Atlantis.
But I've watched SG-1 not inits entirety.
I think there's like 10 or 12seasons.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's the one that is the biggest one, right SG-1?
Yes, that's the one that is thebiggest one, right?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
SG-1?
Yes, that's the longest runningshow.
And then there's one calledStargate Universe.
I think it only has two seasonsand then they've got like three
or four different movies.
So it all started with the Ibelieve it was 1994, stargate
movie release.
It was just called Stargate.
Just called Stargate movierelease.
(08:45):
It was just called Stargate.
Just called Stargate, it hadwhat's the guy's name who plays.
He's in Tombstone and he'sStar-Lord's dad from.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
My goodness, I almost said Jeff Bridges, but that's
not correct.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, I'm looking it up now, guys, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, that's irritating me.
You're going to say it and I'mgoing to be so mad.
Yeah, you are going to be madbecause he's a.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He's big Kurt Russell .
It also has James Spader.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
James Spader, which he's the one who plays Ultron.
Right, yeah, he does playUltron.
He is also the one who says Inthe office why is Jim being mean
to the magician?
Yeah, why is Jim being?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
being mean to the magician.
Yeah, why is jim being so meanto the magician, or no?
Why is jim treating themagician so poorly?
That's it.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Which is so funny because it because they pair
that up with dr strange, thenewest one.
Yeah, because john krasinskiplays mr fantastic in that and
he's being rude to dr Strange.
And it's just so funny how somany people are now in the MCU
that you can just make thefunniest references now.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I think that.
So the show Community that we Idon't think we've actually
talked about it on here, but youand I talk about it Community
is great.
It is a great show, but I thinkevery single person, with the
exception of chevy chase, hasmade some sort of marvel debut
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what is um the main characterbeen, what, what they all been
in it?
Joel mccall.
I can't remember maybe.
Maybe joel mccall wasn't it,but I know that it was.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What about the?
What was her name?
Cheryl, cheryl the black lady.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, cherie, I think, is what her name was oh gotcha,
that was close, yeah, so JoelMcHale.
Maybe Joel McHale has not beenin it.
I'm pulling it up now.
Now I've got to correct myself,anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Watch it that only Donald Glover was in the MCU,
because I can't think of DannyPugh, right, that's his name.
Yeah, he was in Captain America, oh, that's right, he was one
of the desk workers, right, yeah, yeah, whatchamacallit, I'm
blanking.
He was in Captain America, oh,that's right, he was one of the
desk workers, right, yeah, yeah,whatchamacallit, I'm blanking
on it.
And Civil War.
Civil War, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, winter.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Soldier.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
No, because I thought he was in the.
Is that?
Oh yeah, you're right.
Winter Soldier.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Because that's when they take down hydra within,
inside that building, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great movie, best marvel movie,yeah, a hundred percent best
one it really is.
It's just, it's got everythingthe marvel should have and we
haven't had it since.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So yeah, there you go , so maybe only half the cast.
I take that back.
I was like, I was probably likeyeah, man, all of them all of
them are in it and I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
What's funny is you can probably more.
This is just more of ageneralized statement, but you
could probably more accuratelysay that all of the actors in
that probably have been in aDisney film.
Yeah, is Masters of the actorsin that probably have been in a
Disney film.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, is Masters of the Universe, dc or Marvel.
It's coming out next year no.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's this own thing, if I'm not mistaken.
Okay, because that's He-Man.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh, you're right, You're right, yeah, so I guess
it's only half the cast.
Wow, johnny Good, one Good.
Guess it's only half the cast.
Wow, johnny Good, one Good.
One Way to let everybody downyou let me so far down.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, so anyway, stargate, stargate, baby.
So what's so great aboutStargate, stargate?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I just like it because it combines exploration
and just all the assets of agood sci-fi with new alien.
They did set up a really goodplot vehicle to have any kind of
(13:05):
story at any point.
I think part of the allure thatthey did that was good,
especially for SG-1, is thatthey dove heavy into Egyptian
mythology and coupled it into oh, it was actually space aliens.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, well, the thing is is you have this portal that
can take you literally anywherewhich means you could then have
literally infinite stories withthese characters.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing is.
It's so.
For those who don't know,stargate is everything in the
shows and the movies.
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They find these gates thatcreate stable wormholes that you
can basically transport throughto another space, and they call
these portals Stargates, andthey were created by a race that
they call the Ancients, whichis like a predecessor to
humanity on Earth.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Why is it that it's always in all media?
It's always the ancients, theprecursors, the guardians.
It's always the somethingthat's something that came
before, that's alwaystechnologically more advanced
than what we currently are.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I would say that because we like to look at
it as linear, so I guess itmakes us feel better about where
we're at technologically.
But if you look at history,it's like there's different
technologies that get developedas mankind progresses and then,
whenever the catalyst or theforerunners of that movement of
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progression fall apart, then alot of that technology is lost
and then man, to an extentstarts over it's always an
interesting though like plotpoint to a lot of sci-fi, a lot
of fiction does it?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
yeah and it's like, yeah, we lose knowledge in the
real world, you know, like, butwe do find it.
And it's not that it's we'remore advanced than them.
Yeah, but it doesn't make themstupid either.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, but always insci-fi is like they were always
better than us.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I actually okay fun fact fact.
I thought it would be funny tomake a movie about where aliens
come to earth to pick a fight,but they focused for all of
their history they focused onspace travel and that's it.
(15:42):
So all their technology has todo with being able to travel
through space.
But all their warfaretechnology is very like Iron Age
basic and they show up to Earthand it's like humans have been
fighting for thousands of yearsand so we've gotten really good
at it.
They just get the.
They just wipe the floor withthem.
Right?
That almost just seems likethey just wipe the floor with
(16:04):
them.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Right, that almost just seems like an episode of
Black Mirror or something.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I guess where it's like a yeah, an advanced
civilization, but not advancedin war.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, it's almost like the whole time you know
we're prepping and all thisstuff it almost just seems more
like a comedy bit, like you'resaying, yeah, more like a comedy
bit, like you're saying, yeah,where it's, you know, the whole
time like the aliens are in thesky.
We see them and it's like likesomehow or another, they are
here to hurt us.
We know that they're here toattack us, yeah, and then when
they finally land and we'reprepped, they just come out and
(16:35):
it's just like, like you said,such primitive tools to fight,
yeah, because they focus so muchon travel instead of warfare.
That would be be very funny.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's just like they come running out and we're just
like, oh, yeah, and that's why Iwas like it would be funny,
because then it would be likeyou know, humanity gets their
hands on their technology andfigures out how to space travel.
They start traveling all overspace and find out that everyone
else in the universe has notfocused on warfare and defense,
(17:10):
they focused on other things,and so it's just very easy to
take over the world.
That is very Britishcolonization-esque.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I thought you were going to say very British
comedy-esque, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Maybe that too, no, but in Stargate they push hard
on.
So the Gould is like the mainbad guys the Gould, the Gould,
the Gould.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Because you only watched Atlantis, correct?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So you know about the Wraith, yes, yeah, so, anyways,
but their tech is veryEgyptian-esque.
So all their spaceships arepyramids and different stuff and
that plays into.
I think it catches theattention because we've got
pyramids all over our world anda lot of them.
(18:11):
We can't explain how they builtthem because, like for the
dating of when they were built,and the tools that we believed
humanity to have at the timedon't work for the size of the
materials and movement andplacement and all that stuff.
So it's like the pyramids in,especially in egypt, they're a
(18:35):
mystery, because it's like howdo we, how did they do this?
Um, so if you involve aliens inthat, it's like, oh, simple
aliens, they aliens, they cameand helped, but anyways, yeah,
so that's pretty cool.
But yeah, I really likeStargate.
Specifically, atlantis is whatI've watched the most.
And with Stargate Atlantisthere's this alien race called
(19:04):
the Wraith and their only sourceof food is specifically humans.
But it's not like flesh.
They suck the life force out ofsomebody.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Correct In order for them to live forever.
So it's not really a foodsource as much as an energy
source, correct?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Got it and the galaxy that they're in.
They have basically depletedtheir stores to where they have
to go into a long-termhibernation for the population
to— A-term relationship withsleep yeah, in order for the
(19:48):
human population in the entiregalaxy that they're in to
replenish.
And the biggest thing is like,okay, they're awakened
prematurely so there's notenough food to go around.
And then they find out thatearth is in another galaxy
somewhere and they're like oh,there's billions of humans,
(20:08):
let's go there.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Just like right there , you just see one of your
ghouls, Ghouls, Ghouls, andthey're in a chef costume and
it's like chef's kiss.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, the ghouls don't eat humans, they possess
them, gotcha, yeah.
So that's the thing.
Oh the ghoul don't eat humans.
They possess them, gotcha, yeah,so that's the thing.
Oh, the wraith.
The wraith eat the life sourcefrom other humans.
I've only seen it done tohumans, but other creatures and
(20:41):
the ghoul.
They believe that they'rebetter than everybody else, and
so they will possess.
They need a host to survive,and so they'll possess somebody
and then enslave them.
And that's how that works.
Well, there you go.
So there you go.
But yeah, they play off of likea couple of different, just
(21:04):
ancient mythos.
One of the alien races iscalled the Asgardians.
I've heard that term before,yep, but they're like what you
would imagine an alien lookslike.
Like small gray black eyes, thelittle gray man Yep.
Small gray black eyes, thelittle gray man Yep.
(21:25):
So there's a, but I thinkthat's the fun thing about the
show is because it's like eachepisode is them going somewhere
new and meeting something new orfinding something new, and then
how do we overcome this kind ofdeal?
But it's pretty fun.
But yeah, jason Momoa is inStargate LAS.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
He's not the main character or anything.
No, he's just like a small sidecharacter.
Who's like no small he's?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
not a small side character.
No, no, he's late in the game,so he's not like in the first
season, but they introduce himand he becomes one of the main
supporting characters.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I remember coming over and I'm like, is that Khal
Drogo?
Yeah, and you're're like who'sthat?
I'm like a guy from game ofthrones and you're like I'm a
christian.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, no, I'm kidding .
Uh, yeah, he's.
Uh, yeah, he, but he's in itand he plays like a
stereotypical jason momoa roleyeah, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
isn't he a soldier, but he's still like I'm going to
be me instead of fallen lion.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Soldier, he was a soldier in his planet and then
his planet got culled by theWraiths and he became what they
call a runner, where basicallyhe's a very rare human where the
Wraith can't suck his lifeforce for some reason.
So they turn him into what theycall a runner and it's
basically just a practice dummy.
(22:49):
They practice their art ofhunting on him, so they put a
tracker in his spine and justrelease him into the universe
and they can track him, and sohe has to run from Stargate to
Stargate to get away from theWraith who are trying to hunt
him and shoot him and kill him.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Gotcha, wouldn't it be wild, right, if Jason Momoa's
character is running to thisvery day and he goes to a
Stargate and ends up inMinecraft.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That would be funny.
It's all connected.
I think it would be funny ifhis character when he was a
runner, goes through a Stargateand ends up on a hunting
preserve for the Predator aliens.
So he's being hunted by Wraithand Predators.
What are those called?
(23:42):
What are the Predator alienscalled?
They're just called Predators.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
They're just called Predators.
They don't have a name.
I don't think so.
So I and I think this is a goodsegue to get into my favorite
sci-fi okay, but I don't thinkthat the predators had a name,
like the xenomorphs did okay.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, see, that was my question is because I, you
know, I've watched several ofthe movies but I've never
actually like so I'm a waybigger alien fan than I am
predator.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I've seen predator maybe once or twice.
I've seen ridley scott's alienseveral times, because those
movies chef's kiss gotcha.
Are you familiar with thehorror, horror movie Alien?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I am, I have seen it.
Yes, yes, so quick Googlesearch says that they are called
the Yaoutja.
The Yaoutja.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I wonder if that's like a name that was assigned to
them in this newest movie, Prey.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
They are also known as predators or hunters.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, I bet you that that's what they were called,
because I fell asleep watchingPrey.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Have you seen Prey?
I started watching it, but Inever finished it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, me and Ashley were watching it and I fell
asleep on the couch and neverwent back and finished it.
That happens a lot to me, likein my old age.
I'll sit there and I'll be likewatching it and I'll just I'll
fall asleep, and I used to withfighting.
I'm just like I just accept myfate.
At that point I'm like I'llfinish it later.
And sometimes I do, sometimes Idon't.
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A lot of movies.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I don't know the ending to All right, so I'm
trying to like verify this.
The only sites that referencethat is their name are wikipedia
xenopedia for xenomorphs yeah,and then reddit it, so there's
no official fandom so predatorwebsite, yeah, or the hunter,
(25:36):
predator or hunters.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Which predator has a new movie.
It might be a movie, it mightbe a tv show, I think it's a
movie, but but Predator Badlandsis coming out this year.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, you mentioned that.
I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I think they dropped a trailer right when we started
recording the podcast.
So after the podcast, I'm goingto watch this trailer.
Okay, but getting back onto thegood sci-fi Alien, alien, do
you have a button?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
no, I was trying to find one.
All I could find was this whichis not Alien.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
No, that's Predator, that's Predator.
So, yeah, or the Yautja, hmm,or the Hunters, or the Hunters,
mm-hmm.
So I watched Alien againrecently.
Mm-hmm, dude, this movie holdsup so well For a movie that was
made in like 1970.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
No, it's so good, arnold.
No, who's the main?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
character it's a Gourney.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Weaver, there we go, thank you, I was going back to
Predator Going back.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
You keep trying to bring it back to Predator.
Stop it, oh man, anyways no,but it's just.
It's so good, everything aboutit's done so well and something
that I will hold up forever.
Yeah, like you can't like johncarpenter's.
(27:04):
The thing all of that's done isall those effects in that movie
are done practically, yeah, andone.
It just makes it so much moredisgusting in a good way, yeah
you know what I mean, if you'reinto that kind of movie and it's
just like that movie was madein the 70s and it's better
looking and has a better plotand just visually better than a
(27:25):
lot of movies that come outtoday.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Isn't where that takes place Antarctica.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay, there's another thing dude Going to Stargate
Earth's Stargate was found in.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Antarctica.
Is that why they call itAtlantis?
Yeah, has nothing to do withone another.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, no, they call it Atlantis, because the city
can go underwater, go underwater, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's got a force fieldthat allows it to stay
underwater to hide itself.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So they take their Stargate, the one they found,
and they move it right, or is it?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
they have to operate in Antarctica, I believe okay'm,
I'm wrong, uh, no, yeah, yeah,I think they found it there and
they moved it to a mountain basein america because the only
safe place in the world isamerica, usa, yep.
And then there's a facility, anancients facility, that in
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antarctica, and that has a bunchof ancients technology that
they're harvesting and learningabout and stuff Like a big thing
with the ancients is using yourmind to control things and your
DNA controls it.
So they've got a captain'schair that the user has to have
(28:39):
ancient DNA to operate it.
When they sit in it it turns onand then they use their mind to
operate.
Got it, be it flying orshooting, you know, defense,
whatever, or operating theshield, stuff like that.
But yeah, all fun stuff, allfun stuff, all fun stuff.
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But then we come back around toit what's going on in
Antarctica?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
that's where they pit the predators and the aliens
against one another.
Alien vs Predator happens inAntarctica yeah, oh, I need to
rewatch that movie because it'snot the best.
Yeah, I remember enjoying itlike when it first came out when
I was younger, but it's, it'snot the best movie.
It's also like ruins the canonsomehow or another, if I
(29:27):
remember correctly, because likealien takes place like 300
years in the future and alienversus predator is like modern
day, so it doesn't work thatwell plot-wise.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I feel like I remember Alien vs Predator being
all right, it was Aliens vsPredator Requiem.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's right.
The sequel to that was let'smake an Alien-Predator hybrid.
Yeah, which was weird.
If you dive deep into the Alienlore, there is a lot of really
weird alien hybrids that theycome up with in the comics and
the books and video games andwhatnot, and it's like I think
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it's all driven.
So alien is like their attemptat making the perfect human
using weird alien DNA thatexisted.
So it's like they're creatingxenomorphs from xenomorphs
almost, if I'm not mistaken butit's all derived by like a
humanoid entity, like demon orsomething like that.
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It's really weird if you divereally deep into alien lore.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What's the one where it's like they go to a planet
and the extraterrestrials arelike humanoid looking, but
they're like taller and likereally white.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That is Prometheus, prometheus, there we go, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Those boys were so white that they gave the sun a
sunburn.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Those are like the forerunners.
Those were the engineers inAlien, so that was again the
people who came before and theyframed that like the engineers
are the creators of thexenomorphs, mm-hmm, but they
were just more scientists tryingto utilize alien DNA to create
super soldiers, kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, because the xenomorphs are more so, not
necessarily technologicallyadvanced, but they're a hive
mentality, alien, right Likethey've got a queen, yeah, and
they all operate under thedirection.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
They're not all like controlled under one mind or
anything, they just like reallywork well together Work ants.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, they're more like ants.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, okay, which is weird.
If you dive, dive again, divedeep into the lore, it's like
you find out some really weirdnonsense about xenomorphs, like
that they can breathe in space,oh really, and that like, unless
you shoot them, they're likeimmortal meaning that they live
forever unless they get.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
so they're like elves elves they live forever unless
you kill them.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yes, well, it's like you know they can survive the
vacuum of space.
You know like they can survivelike extreme temperatures,
extreme environments, but if youput a bullet in their head they
die, yeah, which is reallyfunny because it's like that is
such a large jump between alienand aliens.
Which was one was the first onewas a horror movie and the
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second one was like an actionmovie, where the first one had
one alien.
They were trying to survive.
Yeah, everything they tried todo to it to get rid of it, they
couldn't do it.
Okay, and then in the secondone they go into this, to this
planet, and there's like a wholehive of them and they're just
blowing them away, like they'rejust like let me shoot a and
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they're just like killing themby the hundreds.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It was such a huge leap and it's such a good movie,
but two is just not as good asone.
Yeah, that's the thing is.
They're all entertaining to me,yeah, but they just have
progressively gotten worse overtime.
Yeah, that is like one of thosefew properties that it's just.
It didn't get better.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, I will say, for specifically on the Predator
side of things like it gotpretty bad for a while there.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
What do you mean?
There was like only twoPredator movies.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
No, because there's two Pred predators.
And then there's the alienverse predator.
There's two of those shoot.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And then there's there's this predator, the one
with the topher grace in it.
You're right, and that one'sgood yeah and then there's the
prey, prey so there is more thanI remember.
And then this badlands,badlands.
But if you do a comparison hereto Aliens, right, mm-hmm,
there's Alien Aliens, which isthe second one, mm-hmm, alien 3,
alien 4, which I think is AlienResurrection, prometheus, alien
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Covenant and Alien Romulus, andthen there's Alien Earth coming
out this year.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Alien Earth.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, I don't know how they're going to do that,
but it's like xenomorphs areloose on planet Earth, but it
takes place before the firstmovie.
Interesting, because, like itdoesn't make sense.
Because they show Ridley, themain character, back on Earth in
Alien 2 for a short amount oftime, mm-hmm, and there's
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nothing wrong with Earth.
There's nothing wrong withEarth, right, and then they go
back to Earth at the end.
I thought they were going to belike they show up to Earth at
the end of the fourth one andyou know that's supposed to be
the big finale.
They finally make it back home.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And that's a better opportunity to start Alien Earth
the TV show after like, oh,they accidentally bring an alien
with them to Earth and itmultiplies.
You know, yeah, be such abetter spot there.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'm trying to find an answer to this and I'm not.
I was trying to figure out howmany Xenomorph comics there are.
A lot Like it's going to be.
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
There is a lot.
There's no like definitiveanswer.
Just like Power Rangers answer.
Just like power rangers.
You know, there's like amassive amount of power ranger
comics a ridiculous amount ofcomics that like speaking of
sci-fi power rangers rangers.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I feel like that's kind of a big hit right now,
where people are taking littlebits from the show different
power ranger shows and makinglike and making quick little
real videos out of them.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean, people are doing that with a lot of
stuff.
I found a lot of movies towatch just because I saw a clip
from it and it's like I wouldhave never gave this movie a
chance if I didn't see a pieceof this movie and thought, oh,
that looks good.
So, but Power Rangers, that'ssomething else I watched a lot
of as a kid.
Yeah, I remember you havingsome power ranger toys growing
up.
I still have them.
(35:43):
I just cleared it, cleared outthe rest of my belongings from
the house I was living in beforeI got married, oh really.
And I found all my power rangertoys nice, so they're in your
closet now.
They're not a closet, they'rein a spare room on the floor
because I got a lot of stuff out.
I respect that.
I respect that we don't haveroom, but I got to get the stuff
(36:04):
.
So there you go, there you go,yep, cool man.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, my wife told me I had to give some honorable
mentions.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah.
So before we do that, let'sgive a quick little timeline of
sci-fi in general.
Let's do it.
So do you know what isconsidered the first science
fiction property?
What's considered that?
I do not.
It is a little book.
I don't know if you've everheard of it.
(36:33):
It's called Frankenstein.
Really, yeah, that's sci-fiInteresting.
That was written in 1818.
Yeah, that was a long time ago,mm-hmm.
It combines speculative sciencewith gothic horror.
Whoa, got it.
That's something that's justbeen done so much, and some of
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it really good and some of itvery bad, mm-hmm, do you
remember that Frankenstein moviethat came out.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It was supposed to be a part of the Dark Universe.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
That was the guy who played Harvey Dent, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, it was like Frankenstein and gargoyles.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I never saw it, but I remember it oh you never saw it
.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
No, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I feel like there was an age there where it was like
let's start this movie universeor just in general, movies in
like between 2005 and 2010.
Just really weird movies comingout.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, this one was weird because the bad guys are
like these demonic aliens ordemonic vampires.
I guess they are demons,they're demons.
You can just say vampires.
I guess they are demons,they're demons, you can just say
vampires.
No, they are demons.
I'm sorry, I was trying to saythat they were vampires, but
they're not, they're demons.
And then gargoyles are actuallylike a sub-genre of angels that
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were sent down to Earth toguard Earth from these demons,
and they basically try to teamup with Frankenstein to defeat
the demons.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
We did.
We had a lot of movies likethat, like what was it Didn't we
get?
We had the Mummy.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, with Tom Cruise , with Tom Cruise, not the good
OG Mummy.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
We had Dracula, untold yeah, which?
That one was Luke Evans, likethe origin story, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
And then we got the invisibleman.
But we did get the invisibleman, you're right, right, and
out of those four, the only onethat was actually good was the
(38:39):
Invisible man, in my opinion.
Yeah, because they did itdifferent and it was very
sci-fi-y and less like well, itall could be considered sci-fi,
yeah, but less like chemicalchange.
You know, he's actuallyinvisible, like his body's
invisible.
It was more technology-basedbase of like I'm using
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technology to make myselfinvisible.
Yeah, it was like a suit, yeah,yeah, yeah, it was such a good
movie awesome, so he didn't haveto strip down naked like in
league of extraordinarygentlemen.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
That or hollow man or hollow man yeah yeah, which was
also actually a pretty goodmovie yeah, that's what I felt
like when all those monsterhorror movies came out.
I felt like they were trying torelaunch the League of
Extraordinary Gentlemen Right,because they had all the same
players.
They had Jackal and Mr Hyde,they had the Invisible man.
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Who else did they have?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
They had Sean Connery .
They had Sean Connery.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Well, no, in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Yeah, they had Alan Quartermain, they had Nemo, they had the
wife of Dracula, they had.
Did they have Dorian Marlin?
No, no, they couldn't affordhim.
Yeah, who else, mr Grey?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yep, dorian Grey, right.
Dorian Gray, mm-hmm, the manwho was immortal.
The immortal man, mm-hmm who.
What did you do?
Hey dude, what's yoursuperpower?
I live forever, yeah, but whatdo you do?
I live forever.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, but he can't be killed.
That's the thing.
Like there's nothing that cankill him unless he looks like
all his pain and age is put onhis picture.
So any kind of stab or shot ormangle or whatever, it's all
pushed onto the portrait.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
It ends up hey bro, look at this.
What is it?
It's just a picture of him.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, the moment he looks at the portrait, all of
it's transferred back onto him.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
So if anybody else looks at it, it's just like
horrific looking painting of areally decrepit old man.
Got it?
Yep, Cool, Pretty, messed up.
So you know.
1818, we had Frankenstein andthen a few other.
We're getting back to thetimeline, by the way.
Sure, no good call.
So the 1800s in general.
We had Jules Verne and HG Wells, recall.
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So the 1800s in general.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
We had jules verne and hd wells.
Do you know what they wrote?
That would be the.
Let's start with jules verne.
What is it?
War um war of the worlds.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
That was hg well, that was hg wells, yeah, yeah,
what did jules verne do?
Journey to the center of theearth and 20 000 leagues under
the.
There we go.
Yeah, hd wells also wrote thetime machine, really, yep.
So they, with those books, theyintroduced time travel, space
exploration and alien invasionthemes, and exploring the depths
(41:33):
of the ocean, sure yep okay,whatever sorry, sorry, space and
ocean exploration, nitpickJairus' notes, anyways, okay.
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So then in the 1920s to the1940s you know again, these are
just like kind of generalizedplot points, but like the major
ones is like we had a rise ofthe pulp kind of era of stuff.
So like magazines, like theamazing stories and stories, you
know a lot of stuff focused onadventure, aliens, robots and
future tech, and you had peoplelike isaac asm asimov, arthur c
clark and robert heinlein, justfamous authors in that genre.
(42:19):
No, really given specifics, butyou know, yeah, yeah, they had
the 1940s, 1950s.
That was the golden age 1940sto 1950s.
Mm-hmm, and that was like youknow hard science, space travel
and technological optimism Okayyeah.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Technological optimism.
So the Jetsons when the Jetsonswas up, yeah, that kind of
stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Okay, it's like that feeling of like happy,
futuristic kind of stuff.
Now I got to look that up.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
When did the Jetsons?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
air, and then we're going to make a go ahead, go
ahead and answer your questionwhen it was the 1960s, 1962,
yeah, so, but yeah, that wouldbe part of that, if I'm not
mistaken.
Okay, just more happier.
Yeah, yeah, the family of thefuture, yeah, that kind of thing
, mm-hmm.
And we're going to jump ahead alittle bit, okay, because this
is where we're going to get backinto movies.
(43:10):
Okay, so, can you name thesci-fi and pop culture 1970s to
1990s famous films?
I mean, predator's got to beone of them, right, not on my
list, but yeah, okay, star Wars,star Wars, there we go.
That's the one I was trying tolead you into.
Star Trek, star Trek.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I can't think of any other ones Come on now Star Wars
Star.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Trek Star Mountain.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Star Mountain.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Star Mountain?
I don't know.
No, so we have the TwilightZone, oh, one of my favorite TV
shows.
I always keep on forgettingabout that.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Was it because you never really watched it?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I never really watched it and I kind of lumped
it in with suspense thriller itis sci-fi, but it's very
sci-fifi and if you watch it now, it is very well written and
it's not like spirituallycompromising.
You know what I mean.
It was always, yeah, it wasn'tpreaching, you know, and
(44:13):
spreading the love of christ,yeah, but it was always good
versus evil.
Yeah, in that sense, like there, like, I think there was one
where, like, the devil shows upand it's like you have to, they
had to be against the devil.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
They were opposing the devil,you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, which is it's always nice to see, for sure, a
good versus evil, yep, and it'snice to see when they're not
portraying the evil as good.
Correct, which we have spoke onbefore.
We have talked about thatbefore Some other hits, and
these are some of my favoriteBlade Runner, spaceballs no, not
(44:52):
Spaceballs, I've never actuallyreally seen that film.
Oh, you haven't.
No, I know what it's about.
I mean, I know it's a parody onStar Wars and whatnot, yeah.
But Blade Runner, okay, withHarrison Ford, with Harrison
Ford, great movie, yep,fantastic movie.
Even the sequel was pretty good.
Blade Runner 2047.
2047.
(45:12):
That was a good movie.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
What's the 2047?
Just the year it happened.
Oh okay, yeah, the year ithappened.
Oh okay, yeah, all rightnothing crazy.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yep, not too far off, got it okay.
The matrix, the matrix, thematrix.
You don't think the matrix issci-fi?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
no, but I thought we were in the 70s and 80s.
I said 70s to the 90s.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Oh, okay, pay attention, john dang.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Okay, yeah, the matrix is that that was probably
one of the bigger ones, butagain it's like another one of
those, in my opinion.
That, okay, pay attention.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
John Dang.
Okay, yeah, the Matrix is dead.
That was probably one of thebigger ones, but again it's like
another one of those, in myopinion, that it started very
strong and just kind of gotworse as the movie's going along
.
Yeah, I've heard a lot ofpeople didn't like number four.
Number four is awful.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
I tried to start watching itand I couldn't get very far.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I mean that's what I've heard.
I tried to start watching itand I couldn't get very far.
I mean it's just like okay,let's put it this way.
It's like I think that it's acop-out.
When you create characters andyou don't need to attempt to
cause, especially when you havesomething like the Matrix, where
you have risks of charactersdying.
There is a lot of problems thatyou're dealing with and high
risk, high reward with whatthey're trying to accomplish.
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Yeah, not a single characterdies in the matrix 4.
No one, no one dies in thematrix 4.
Not only does no one diespoiler alert, everybody.
By the way, they bring back neo.
Yeah, it's like like a hugepoint of the third movie of him
sacrificing himself to saveeverybody and they just bring
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him back just so they can makemore money.
It was very much a let's makemoney movie.
It wasn't let's make a movie tomake a good story.
Yeah, a great story.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, well, in that case, stargate came out in the
90s, so Stargate would be a bigone.
Yeah, farscape, is that onthere?
No, oh, that's not that biganyways.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, that's why it's not on my list.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I know there's probably at least one to two
people who listen to thispodcast, who have heard of and
or watched Farscape.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
All right, everybody.
All the big Farscape.
Yeah, don't watch it.
Everybody all the big Farscapes.
Let's all join hands insolidarity in the comments
section below yeah, Let Johnknow you're here, Don't let him
feel alone.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
No, I didn't even finish it.
I watched like a coupleepisodes I was like hey, don't
be modest.
This is too weird.
No, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Everybody get out there and join John.
No, don't, don't watch it.
And let us all know aboutFarscape.
Don't watch it, anyways, yeah.
So let's say, you know Matrix,and then Alien.
Alien, which is again one ofthe best sci-fi movies ever,
according to you, yep, based offa fact.
So let's get into the modernsci-fi era.
(48:02):
Okay, we have, you know somebig ones.
I would say Okay hold on.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
So nothing about Edgar Rice Burroughs in your
timeline there.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
No, that's weird, because he wrote no one cares
about Tarzan.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
No, he wrote all the John Carter books.
He wrote the-.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
This is a very, very vague, brief summary in general.
I'm just giving examples withinthese eras.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You know.
So there you go.
And then you know the modernera, which is, you know, 2000s
to today.
Okay, and you have shows likeBlack Mirror, the Expanse and
Dune the Expanse yeah, that's abig hitter for him.
I hear a lot about the ExpanseReally.
Yeah, it's pretty big, Okay.
Just because it's not big inyour life doesn't mean it's not
(48:51):
big.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
All right, I will say I did enjoy the Tomorrow War.
Did you ever watch that?
That?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
was the one with Chris Pratt.
That was a good movie.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
That was good.
What are some modern sci-fisthat I've enjoyed?
Oh, of course, sequel to StarWars.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
No, just kidding, oh gotta love that, gotta love it.
Rise of Skywalker I love hey.
What's your name Rey?
What's your last name, star?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Wars.
I love when they make fun of it.
There's like an animation ofAnakin and Obi-Wan fighting on
the volcano planet Uh-huh.
And then Anakin lands a hit onObi-Wan and Obi-Wan's like, oh
shoot, well, I'll just forceheal real quick, you can do that
.
Anakin's like, wait, we can dothat.
(49:44):
And he's like, yeah, of courseI can just force heal.
And he's like I want to changesides.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
No, it's too late.
Oh man, yeah, we can get onthat for a second Dumb.
If you look at, compare StarTrek to Star Wars, right, I know
there's that huge debate allthe time, right, star Trek, when
(50:11):
it comes to storytelling, isbetter.
Star Wars is more approachableand more easy to get into.
Okay, because it's a lot morebasic than Star Trek.
Yeah, but Star Trek is so muchmore expansible.
There's so much more media toconsume.
Mm-hmm, if you're trying to getinto a deep, deep, lord, lore,
(50:33):
lore Filled Universe, there wego.
Thank you, star Trek is the wayto go.
If you want something a littlebit more simple, you know Star
Wars.
They're both good for onereason or another, but there is
more good Star Trek mediaproperties, whether it be movie
(50:54):
or TV show, than there are Star.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Wars, so it'd be the equivalent to, in fantasy, lord
of the Rings and Chronicles ofNarnia.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, they're both good, but for their own reasons.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, but Lord of the Rings is heavy in the lore but
Chronicles of Narnia is veryeasy to consume.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yes, really, one is more child-oriented, made for
children.
Star Wars is made for children,it really is.
Let's be honest, it's a Disneyfilm, yeah, well, now it is.
Now it is.
Even back then it was made forkids.
Okay, all right, star Trek wasnot made for kids.
I got you, so there you go.
I mean, that's kind of how itis.
It's like, if you wantsomething that's a little bit
(51:38):
more adult themed, but not likeinappropriate, yeah, star Trek
Got it, but both are good.
Older Star Trek is, though,harder to watch, like the first
not first, just the originalStar Trek show.
It is a little cheesy and lowbudget.
But if you, you can kind ofpick any, cause there's so many
(52:00):
different star Trek shows.
Yeah, you can kind of just pickone and go.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, so Star Wars is for kids, star Trek is for
adults.
What are we?
Speaker 1 (52:11):
for yeah, I had to throw it in there Apparently
multiple times, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
That's right.
Our podcast is for Gondor Didyou watch Dune?
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, I've seen it.
Dune's really good.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
It is pretty good.
Yeah, there's a podcast Ilisten to and they talked about
Dune at one point and they'relike I feel like what's the
character?
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Charlemagne, that is Paul Atreides.
No, no, no.
What After Charlemagne?
That is Paul Atreides.
No, no, no.
What's the actor's name?
Oh, timothee Chalamet.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
I said it wrong on purpose.
I was like I feel like he couldbe in anything and he is.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
He shows up, he's in a lot of stuff.
I've seen so many movies withhim in it and he is that
versatile of an actor.
Yeah, I watched him in dune.
Then he is willie, wonka, yepand wonka and then he played
like what's that artist's name?
Like there was a dumb, you knowbiopic that came out recently
(53:09):
about oh geez I can't think ofhere you know I'm talking about,
though, and he plays like thisartist, so it's just like he.
He is a really good actor.
Yeah, he's also in that reallyfunny SNL skit where they're
trying to be like millennialrappers.
Yeah, it's just like you knowwhat I'm talking about yeah,
(53:32):
he's in it with Pete Davidson.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
There we go.
Pete Davidson, this is sayingthat he was in interstellar.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
He might have been like.
I don't remember him.
I need to re-watch interstellarthen.
Great sci-fi.
Yeah, that was a great sci-fi.
I've been listening, actually,to the soundtrack this week.
It's such a great soundtrack.
Anything that christopher nolanputs out is a hit he was in
little women was he one of thelittle women?
Was he one of the?
Was he one of the Little Women?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Was he one of the Little Women?
Was he one of the Little Women?
No, I don't think so.
He was in that Netflix movie,the King.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
I don't know if you watched that Bob Dylan.
He played Bob Dylan, bob Dylan.
Yeah, I'm seeing it right here.
See, I figured it out beforeyou did.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
See, see, what are some other things.
He was in Hostiles.
I didn't watch that it's aWestern Edgar Scissorhands,
edgar Scissorhands, what?
That's what it says EdgarScissorhands, not Edward
Scissorhands.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Getting into some weird stuff here.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, why is he trying to follow in Johnny
Depp's footsteps?
He?
Speaker 1 (54:41):
kind of is isn't he?
Speaker 2 (54:42):
He kind of is they're going to revamp Pirates and
he's going to read Jack yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I was going to say just Timothy Shaolin, and it's
just going to get out there andhe's just going to play all the
roles that Johnny Depp played.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
I think it would be funny if Johnny Depp did a like
a parody sketch of him being inDune, just to get back at him.
That'd be funny.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Anyways, that's pretty much all what we have on
sci-fi.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah, that's it for the most part.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
I do have a little corner if you want to get into
that action hey, then let's goahead and let tyler know what
we're about to do, tyler we aregoing to transition into the
corner step inside if you dare.
Shadows move, mysteries whisperand the unknown awaits.
(55:41):
Welcome to the corner.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Okay, I have a story for you.
Yeah, and it's relatable towhat we've been talking about.
Okay, it's sci-fi-y, okay, sothere is a document that was
released by the CIA and in thedocument they mentioned that
they have a file that hastestimonies, pictures, drawings
(56:24):
of an event that happened inSiberia.
Okay, that involved Sovietsoldiers and aliens, aliens.
So, and okay, the reason I'mdoing it this way and I'm not
just generally talking aboutaliens is because there's a lot
to say when it comes to aliensand we're just going to touch on
(56:45):
different things becausethere's so much.
But this is an event thatallegedly happened in Russia,
where Soviet soldiers shot downa UFO.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
Allegedly, allegedly.
This is all allegedly.
This is what the document says.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yes, okay, okay.
So the KGB had all thisdocumentation and with the fall
of the Soviet Union, somehow theCIA got their hands on this
document.
Union, somehow the CIA gottheir hands on this document.
But, yeah, so the soldiers shotdown a UFO and there were five
(57:32):
small entities that stepped outof said UFO and the soldiers
were surrounding, or whatever.
These entities morphed togetherinto a singular ball-like
object.
What and it started like doingthis, you know, kind of like a
rattling, like shaking.
So all the entities, all five ofthe entities, get together and
they morph into a perfect sphereand then the sphere kind of
(57:56):
like builds up, almost like it'sbuilding up, and then emits a
bright light, jeez, and itpetrifies a certain number of
Soviet soldiers.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Like it shoots through, turns them to stone and
only I think it was only likeone or two soldiers survive and
then the sphere disappears,spooky, and so they you know the
kgb they come and theybasically they clean up, they
get rid of the petrifiedsoldiers, they get rid of the
ship and they collect all thedocumentation for it, catalog it
(58:34):
, put it away, and then thensomehow the CIA gets their hand
on this document and they havereleased it, saying like, hey,
this is what we've got.
Allegedly, this has happened.
So, yeah, interesting story,but there's a lot of stories
that have to do with aliens andRussia.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
It's weird Is it because Russia is really
expansive, really large amountof space with a lot of land and
not a lot of people you couldsay that, but there is a.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
I think what it is is there's a lake in Russia called
Lake Baikal and there's areally-.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
How do you take appointments?
Baikal, baikal yeah, andthere's a really—.
How do you take appointments bycall, by call.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, no, but there's an alien-esque story that came
out of that that once again hadto do with the Russian military
and aliens.
But I think that if there werealien creatures like we know
them today, like small gray menwith black eyes, I think that
(59:40):
there would be a base in Russiain Lake Baikal.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
So like an Area 51 Russia.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
No, because the Russians don't control it.
The aliens control that space.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, so that's my.
I think, the more and more I'mhearing about alien stories.
I don't think they're fromouter space.
I think they're from either theocean or from what people call
hollow earth.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
And they come up.
They come up to our side, in asense, to test technology.
Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Full circle, baby, full circle.
Yeah, going right back toAtlantis and Jason Momoa, that's
right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
But yeah, at some point we're going to have to get
in and talk about Admiral Byrd.
He's notoriously the guy forHollow Earth because he did an
exploration to Antarctica.
He was the first, I think,military dedicated exploration
to Antarctica and he flew aplane over the North Pole and he
(01:00:45):
said that there was a circularspace and inside it was green
vegetation in the middle of theso like a perfectly livable land
, just a small mount in themiddle of Antarctica that's
growing plants that's shootingdown in, I think is what he was
alleging to Gotcha and like it'sjust the entrance to it, to
(01:01:08):
Hollow Earth was at the NorthPole.
And then he goes down there anda man crawls out and it's Jack
Black and he says I am steveyeah, yeah, but yeah, so that's
what I have for aliens is justthis really bizarre story where
they turn russian, russiansoldiers into stone by morphing
(01:01:31):
into a sphere and shooting us.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
They literally showed up and said want to play ball.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah, exactly, oh.
You want to shoot my ship down.
I'm going to turn you to stone,jeez.
Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Like petrified, like turned to stone, or were they
just like frozen, like in feartype petrified?
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Like did they die?
No, like what a petrified.
Like petrified is like.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
No, they were literally turnedto stone, got it?
Because if you have a petrifiedwood, it's almost like it's a
stony substance.
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
So just, they were just Medusa's minions.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, medusa's minions, right, that's the best
way to look at it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Bring it back again.
They kind of Power Ranger'd upwhere they all morphed together,
yep, and they shot out theirMedusa beam.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Mm-hmm, yeah, to suck out the life essence of the
human Gould, right Gould.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Oh man.
Well, thank you for bringingsome great content to us on
today's corner.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Thank you for listening to said content and
we'll let everyone listeningdecide if it was great or not.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
All right.
So everybody in the comments,don't forget to comment about
Edgewood or Edge.
What was it?
Edge Drop, what was the showyou said don't anybody watch?
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm not going to say it now.
I don't want anyone to watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
They'll just rewind.
Okay, farscape, farscape,that's it.
Edgewood when did you even comefrom?
There is, what is it?
There's another sci-fi show.
It's like Edgewood or BurnwoodI'll have to look it up, but
it's very much similar.
Gotcha, they're like X-Filesman.
We could really get into this.
Now, now that we're wrapping upthe episode, I'm going to start
(01:03:15):
naming off all these differentgreat sci-fi shows Fringe,
fringe yeah, fringe was great.
Yep, I think X-Files was, youknow, really great.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yeah, we didn't even talk.
Bailey talked about BlackMirror, which is like a modern
Twilight Zone.
Yeah, it is, yeah, yeah, what'sthe?
What's the Maze Runner?
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
show.
Did you ever watch that?
Yeah, there's so many greatsci-fi shows sci-fi, though
that's more.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I guess that would be more apocalyptic.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, dang anyways.
So after talking about all thissci-fi stuff, I just want to
let you guys know Christ is Lordand the kingdom is now.
We are the saints that serve.
Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Now tell us funny jokes to end this out um, what
did the tree say to the dog bark?
No, I said quit peeing on me,you sicko.
I got jokes.
Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each
week, your hosts dive into thecrossroads of faith, culture and
the unknown.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.
We are the Saints that Serve.
Hey everybody, welcome to theSaints that Serve podcast.
(00:41):
That's the Saints that Servepodcast, With your hosts I'm
Johnny.
And I'm Jairus and we got someannouncements for you In this
episode 33 of the podcast Heckyeah, baby Episode 33.
Hey, what announcements do youhave for this episode?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Fun fact, this Friday , May 2nd, we're going to be
doing another live streamworship night, because we did
that first one and it just wentso well.
Yeah, we had a really good time, so the guitar will be tuned up
with new strings.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's right, because you broke the strings on it
last time.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Right on your last song yeah, dude, the providence
of god showed through that lastsong.
At the very end of it, stringbroke you literally on your last
strum too.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It wasn't in the middle of the song, you were
literally going like ending outthe song.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yep, and the string broke and it popped and it was
like god was like you guys aregoing out with a bang, here we
go boo anyways.
So yeah, we're gonna do thatagain and it's gonna be this
Friday, may 2nd.
It's going to start off.
The live stream will start at6.30.
Mm-hmm, and then the music willstart at 7.
Right, but we'll be in the chatand there'll be a countdown.
You know a 30-minute countdownat 6.30.
(01:57):
So make sure that you aretuning in and just joining the
conversation, joining theworship time.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And just be prepared for a great worship night.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yep.
Well, as, like we did last time, we'll be posting updates
throughout the week on socialmedia and we'll be sharing links
to the live stream day of and.
Fun fact, we need to get acouple more people to like our
Facebook page for us to livestream on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I believe, as of the airing of this episode, we need
like maybe 12 or 13 peoples.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, it was not a lot.
They like require 100, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Which makes no sense.
It's like hey, you got to knowat least 100 people to reach out
to people.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
No, you got it.
It's like hey, you got to knowat least 100 people to reach out
to people.
No, you got it's not you knowthem, it's they've got.
You've got to have 100 peoplethat like your page.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That was kind of the joke I was going for, but you
know, well, we need 15 people tolike our or follow us on the
Saints that Serve podcastFacebook page Correct.
So if you're listening and yousay what is that?
That means you're not following.
That's right, which means whydon't you go out there and
(03:12):
follow?
You know we don't typically begfor, you know, likes or follows
or shares or anything like that, but on this particular one it
would help out a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, it would be great if you guys, because if we
can get 100 people to follow uson Facebook, then we can do
live streams on Facebook.
And if you're not a YouTuber ora Twitcher, maybe you can be a
facer, then you can be a facer.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So, yeah, guys, do that, or John and I are going to
have to make 15 fake accountsso we can reach out to y'all.
Yeah, yeah, have to make 15fake accounts so we can reach
out to y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, and that's a pain, so don't make us
do that, guys.
Don't make us make 15 differentemails just for this.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's going to be fake STS one, fake STS two.
Yeah, Watch.
It be something stupid too,where you get on there and it's
like you got to be a certain ageon your account before you can
follow people.
So it would be like, oh, youhave to be a member of Facebook
for X amount of time before youcan even follow.
(04:11):
Yeah, Because it was somethinglike that too, where our page
had to be a certain age beforewe could live stream on it.
Yeah, it was like three monthsbefore we could do live streams
on it.
Facebook is weird guys.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, each platform has weird stuff about it, but
anyway.
So yeah, live streams coming up.
If you're on Facebook and youhave not followed the Saints to
Serve podcast on Facebook, go dothat.
Just to help the Facebookpeople out.
They need to hear live worship,that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And if we don't get there?
You know Twitch and YouTube.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, yep, which, and yeah, we'll share links to
those.
For the most part, that's it.
You know, in June no, it'll beJuly We'll be doing another
inductive Bible study corecourse.
It'll be local, so if you'reinterested and you're in the
Georgia kind of West Atlantaarea, reach out at saints that
(05:10):
serve at gmailcom.
Yeah, and we'll get you set upand we'll give you more info.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And also that course is free.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah 100% free.
There's nothing you need to pay.
You just need to make a timecommitment.
It's four sessions, one hourper session.
So it'll be the month of July.
We'll meet four times for onehour and by the end of it, you
will be able to dive into God'sword Inductively.
Inductively and get context forscripture and be able to apply
(05:42):
it in your life the way it wasintended, and get context for
scripture and be able to applyit in your life the way it was
intended.
So there you go, there you go.
So, yeah, that's it as far asannouncements go.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
All right, so are you ready to get?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
sci-fi-y, yeah, yeah.
So, tyler, this is yourtransition.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
We are transitioning into the main topic of this
episode, which is what?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Sci-fi.
So I went the route of like Iwas just looking at putting
together notes for my favoritesci-fi, yeah, but I think you
went more the route of justsci-fi in general.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Kind of yeah.
So you came to me and you'relike let's.
I think you initially said andI hope I don't step on toes
about what you're going to talkabout yeah.
But you came to me andessentially said I want to talk
about a very specific sci-fishow and I said let's make it
about sci-fi.
(06:43):
Okay, in a general sense, yeah,and you interpreted that as
bringing forth sci-fi shows inmedia that you are interested in
and I've interpreted that asjust sci-fi in general and talk
about sci-fi which we can getinto shows and whatnot.
But I think that I'm such a bigsci-fi fan, yeah, that I enjoy
(07:07):
a majority of sci-fi.
Yeah, like all the thingsyou're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
if I haven't seen it, if I would watch it, I'd
probably be like, yeah, I'd likethat yeah, I get that and I
respect that and we'll call thisour intro to sci-fi and just
have like a little side playlist, that way every time we come
back to sci-fi we can refer.
Hey, this is the first episodewhere we talked about sci-fi,
but yeah, I wanted to talk aboutmy favorite show specifically
(07:35):
it has your favorite aquaman init, right uh?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
yeah, it does it's so weird to see like actors who
have made a big name forthemselves after hitting that
big break, whatever it is.
But it's like wait, jason momoais in stargate yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So there you go.
If you didn't know, uh, myfavorite sci-fi is star.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now is that Stargate Atlantis, Stargate SG-1?
I enjoy Stargate, Stargate,just Stargate.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I enjoy Stargate Atlantis, so I know the most
about Stargate Atlantis.
But I've watched SG-1 not inits entirety.
I think there's like 10 or 12seasons.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's the one that is the biggest one, right SG-1?
Yes, that's the one that is thebiggest one, right?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
SG-1?
Yes, that's the longest runningshow.
And then there's one calledStargate Universe.
I think it only has two seasonsand then they've got like three
or four different movies.
So it all started with the Ibelieve it was 1994, stargate
movie release.
It was just called Stargate.
Just called Stargate movierelease.
(08:45):
It was just called Stargate.
Just called Stargate, it hadwhat's the guy's name who plays.
He's in Tombstone and he'sStar-Lord's dad from.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
My goodness, I almost said Jeff Bridges, but that's
not correct.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, I'm looking it up now, guys, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, that's irritating me.
You're going to say it and I'mgoing to be so mad.
Yeah, you are going to be madbecause he's a.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He's big Kurt Russell .
It also has James Spader.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
James Spader, which he's the one who plays Ultron.
Right, yeah, he does playUltron.
He is also the one who says Inthe office why is Jim being mean
to the magician?
Yeah, why is Jim being?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
being mean to the magician.
Yeah, why is jim being so meanto the magician, or no?
Why is jim treating themagician so poorly?
That's it.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Which is so funny because it because they pair
that up with dr strange, thenewest one.
Yeah, because john krasinskiplays mr fantastic in that and
he's being rude to dr Strange.
And it's just so funny how somany people are now in the MCU
that you can just make thefunniest references now.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I think that.
So the show Community that we Idon't think we've actually
talked about it on here, but youand I talk about it Community
is great.
It is a great show, but I thinkevery single person, with the
exception of chevy chase, hasmade some sort of marvel debut
(10:14):
what is um the main characterbeen, what, what they all been
in it?
Joel mccall.
I can't remember maybe.
Maybe joel mccall wasn't it,but I know that it was.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What about the?
What was her name?
Cheryl, cheryl the black lady.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, cherie, I think, is what her name was oh gotcha,
that was close, yeah, so JoelMcHale.
Maybe Joel McHale has not beenin it.
I'm pulling it up now.
Now I've got to correct myself,anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Watch it that only Donald Glover was in the MCU,
because I can't think of DannyPugh, right, that's his name.
Yeah, he was in Captain America, oh, that's right, he was one
of the desk workers, right, yeah, yeah, whatchamacallit, I'm
blanking.
He was in Captain America, oh,that's right, he was one of the
desk workers, right, yeah, yeah,whatchamacallit, I'm blanking
on it.
And Civil War.
Civil War, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, winter.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Soldier.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
No, because I thought he was in the.
Is that?
Oh yeah, you're right.
Winter Soldier.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Because that's when they take down hydra within,
inside that building, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great movie, best marvel movie,yeah, a hundred percent best
one it really is.
It's just, it's got everythingthe marvel should have and we
haven't had it since.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So yeah, there you go , so maybe only half the cast.
I take that back.
I was like, I was probably likeyeah, man, all of them all of
them are in it and I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
What's funny is you can probably more.
This is just more of ageneralized statement, but you
could probably more accuratelysay that all of the actors in
that probably have been in aDisney film.
Yeah, is Masters of the actorsin that probably have been in a
Disney film.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, is Masters of the Universe, dc or Marvel.
It's coming out next year no.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's this own thing, if I'm not mistaken.
Okay, because that's He-Man.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh, you're right, You're right, yeah, so I guess
it's only half the cast.
Wow, johnny Good, one Good.
Guess it's only half the cast.
Wow, johnny Good, one Good.
One Way to let everybody downyou let me so far down.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, so anyway, stargate, stargate, baby.
So what's so great aboutStargate, stargate?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I just like it because it combines exploration
and just all the assets of agood sci-fi with new alien.
They did set up a really goodplot vehicle to have any kind of
(13:05):
story at any point.
I think part of the allure thatthey did that was good,
especially for SG-1, is thatthey dove heavy into Egyptian
mythology and coupled it into oh, it was actually space aliens.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, well, the thing is is you have this portal that
can take you literally anywherewhich means you could then have
literally infinite stories withthese characters.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing is.
It's so.
For those who don't know,stargate is everything in the
shows and the movies.
(13:54):
They find these gates thatcreate stable wormholes that you
can basically transport throughto another space, and they call
these portals Stargates, andthey were created by a race that
they call the Ancients, whichis like a predecessor to
humanity on Earth.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Why is it that it's always in all media?
It's always the ancients, theprecursors, the guardians.
It's always the somethingthat's something that came
before, that's alwaystechnologically more advanced
than what we currently are.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I would say that because we like to look at
it as linear, so I guess itmakes us feel better about where
we're at technologically.
But if you look at history,it's like there's different
technologies that get developedas mankind progresses and then,
whenever the catalyst or theforerunners of that movement of
(14:47):
progression fall apart, then alot of that technology is lost
and then man, to an extentstarts over it's always an
interesting though like plotpoint to a lot of sci-fi, a lot
of fiction does it?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
yeah and it's like, yeah, we lose knowledge in the
real world, you know, like, butwe do find it.
And it's not that it's we'remore advanced than them.
Yeah, but it doesn't make themstupid either.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, but always insci-fi is like they were always
better than us.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I actually okay fun fact fact.
I thought it would be funny tomake a movie about where aliens
come to earth to pick a fight,but they focused for all of
their history they focused onspace travel and that's it.
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So all their technology has todo with being able to travel
through space.
But all their warfaretechnology is very like Iron Age
basic and they show up to Earthand it's like humans have been
fighting for thousands of yearsand so we've gotten really good
at it.
They just get the.
They just wipe the floor withthem.
Right?
That almost just seems likethey just wipe the floor with
(16:04):
them.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Right, that almost just seems like an episode of
Black Mirror or something.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I guess where it's like a yeah, an advanced
civilization, but not advancedin war.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, it's almost like the whole time you know
we're prepping and all thisstuff it almost just seems more
like a comedy bit, like you'resaying, yeah, more like a comedy
bit, like you're saying, yeah,where it's, you know, the whole
time like the aliens are in thesky.
We see them and it's like likesomehow or another, they are
here to hurt us.
We know that they're here toattack us, yeah, and then when
they finally land and we'reprepped, they just come out and
(16:35):
it's just like, like you said,such primitive tools to fight,
yeah, because they focus so muchon travel instead of warfare.
That would be be very funny.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's just like they come running out and we're just
like, oh, yeah, and that's why Iwas like it would be funny,
because then it would be likeyou know, humanity gets their
hands on their technology andfigures out how to space travel.
They start traveling all overspace and find out that everyone
else in the universe has notfocused on warfare and defense,
(17:10):
they focused on other things,and so it's just very easy to
take over the world.
That is very Britishcolonization-esque.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I thought you were going to say very British
comedy-esque, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Maybe that too, no, but in Stargate they push hard
on.
So the Gould is like the mainbad guys the Gould, the Gould,
the Gould.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Because you only watched Atlantis, correct?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So you know about the Wraith, yes, yeah, so, anyways,
but their tech is veryEgyptian-esque.
So all their spaceships arepyramids and different stuff and
that plays into.
I think it catches theattention because we've got
pyramids all over our world anda lot of them.
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We can't explain how they builtthem because, like for the
dating of when they were built,and the tools that we believed
humanity to have at the timedon't work for the size of the
materials and movement andplacement and all that stuff.
So it's like the pyramids in,especially in egypt, they're a
(18:35):
mystery, because it's like howdo we, how did they do this?
Um, so if you involve aliens inthat, it's like, oh, simple
aliens, they aliens, they cameand helped, but anyways, yeah,
so that's pretty cool.
But yeah, I really likeStargate.
Specifically, atlantis is whatI've watched the most.
And with Stargate Atlantisthere's this alien race called
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the Wraith and their only sourceof food is specifically humans.
But it's not like flesh.
They suck the life force out ofsomebody.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Correct In order for them to live forever.
So it's not really a foodsource as much as an energy
source, correct?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Got it and the galaxy that they're in.
They have basically depletedtheir stores to where they have
to go into a long-termhibernation for the population
to— A-term relationship withsleep yeah, in order for the
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human population in the entiregalaxy that they're in to
replenish.
And the biggest thing is like,okay, they're awakened
prematurely so there's notenough food to go around.
And then they find out thatearth is in another galaxy
somewhere and they're like oh,there's billions of humans,
(20:08):
let's go there.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Just like right there , you just see one of your
ghouls, Ghouls, Ghouls, andthey're in a chef costume and
it's like chef's kiss.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, the ghouls don't eat humans, they possess
them, gotcha, yeah.
So that's the thing.
Oh the ghoul don't eat humans.
They possess them, gotcha, yeah,so that's the thing.
Oh, the wraith.
The wraith eat the life sourcefrom other humans.
I've only seen it done tohumans, but other creatures and
(20:41):
the ghoul.
They believe that they'rebetter than everybody else, and
so they will possess.
They need a host to survive,and so they'll possess somebody
and then enslave them.
And that's how that works.
Well, there you go.
So there you go.
But yeah, they play off of likea couple of different, just
(21:04):
ancient mythos.
One of the alien races iscalled the Asgardians.
I've heard that term before,yep, but they're like what you
would imagine an alien lookslike.
Like small gray black eyes, thelittle gray man Yep.
Small gray black eyes, thelittle gray man Yep.
(21:25):
So there's a, but I thinkthat's the fun thing about the
show is because it's like eachepisode is them going somewhere
new and meeting something new orfinding something new, and then
how do we overcome this kind ofdeal?
But it's pretty fun.
But yeah, jason Momoa is inStargate LAS.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
He's not the main character or anything.
No, he's just like a small sidecharacter.
Who's like no small he's?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
not a small side character.
No, no, he's late in the game,so he's not like in the first
season, but they introduce himand he becomes one of the main
supporting characters.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I remember coming over and I'm like, is that Khal
Drogo?
Yeah, and you're're like who'sthat?
I'm like a guy from game ofthrones and you're like I'm a
christian.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, no, I'm kidding .
Uh, yeah, he's.
Uh, yeah, he, but he's in itand he plays like a
stereotypical jason momoa roleyeah, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
isn't he a soldier, but he's still like I'm going to
be me instead of fallen lion.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Soldier, he was a soldier in his planet and then
his planet got culled by theWraiths and he became what they
call a runner, where basicallyhe's a very rare human where the
Wraith can't suck his lifeforce for some reason.
So they turn him into what theycall a runner and it's
basically just a practice dummy.
(22:49):
They practice their art ofhunting on him, so they put a
tracker in his spine and justrelease him into the universe
and they can track him, and sohe has to run from Stargate to
Stargate to get away from theWraith who are trying to hunt
him and shoot him and kill him.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Gotcha, wouldn't it be wild, right, if Jason Momoa's
character is running to thisvery day and he goes to a
Stargate and ends up inMinecraft.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That would be funny.
It's all connected.
I think it would be funny ifhis character when he was a
runner, goes through a Stargateand ends up on a hunting
preserve for the Predator aliens.
So he's being hunted by Wraithand Predators.
What are those called?
(23:42):
What are the Predator alienscalled?
They're just called Predators.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
They're just called Predators.
They don't have a name.
I don't think so.
So I and I think this is a goodsegue to get into my favorite
sci-fi okay, but I don't thinkthat the predators had a name,
like the xenomorphs did okay.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, see, that was my question is because I, you
know, I've watched several ofthe movies but I've never
actually like so I'm a waybigger alien fan than I am
predator.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I've seen predator maybe once or twice.
I've seen ridley scott's alienseveral times, because those
movies chef's kiss gotcha.
Are you familiar with thehorror, horror movie Alien?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I am, I have seen it.
Yes, yes, so quick Googlesearch says that they are called
the Yaoutja.
The Yaoutja.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I wonder if that's like a name that was assigned to
them in this newest movie, Prey.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
They are also known as predators or hunters.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, I bet you that that's what they were called,
because I fell asleep watchingPrey.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Have you seen Prey?
I started watching it, but Inever finished it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, me and Ashley were watching it and I fell
asleep on the couch and neverwent back and finished it.
That happens a lot to me, likein my old age.
I'll sit there and I'll be likewatching it and I'll just I'll
fall asleep, and I used to withfighting.
I'm just like I just accept myfate.
At that point I'm like I'llfinish it later.
And sometimes I do, sometimes Idon't.
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A lot of movies.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I don't know the ending to All right, so I'm
trying to like verify this.
The only sites that referencethat is their name are wikipedia
xenopedia for xenomorphs yeah,and then reddit it, so there's
no official fandom so predatorwebsite, yeah, or the hunter,
(25:36):
predator or hunters.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Which predator has a new movie.
It might be a movie, it mightbe a tv show, I think it's a
movie, but but Predator Badlandsis coming out this year.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, you mentioned that.
I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I think they dropped a trailer right when we started
recording the podcast.
So after the podcast, I'm goingto watch this trailer.
Okay, but getting back onto thegood sci-fi Alien, alien, do
you have a button?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
no, I was trying to find one.
All I could find was this whichis not Alien.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
No, that's Predator, that's Predator.
So, yeah, or the Yautja, hmm,or the Hunters, or the Hunters,
mm-hmm.
So I watched Alien againrecently.
Mm-hmm, dude, this movie holdsup so well For a movie that was
made in like 1970.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
No, it's so good, arnold.
No, who's the main?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
character it's a Gourney.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Weaver, there we go, thank you, I was going back to
Predator Going back.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
You keep trying to bring it back to Predator.
Stop it, oh man, anyways no,but it's just.
It's so good, everything aboutit's done so well and something
that I will hold up forever.
Yeah, like you can't like johncarpenter's.
(27:04):
The thing all of that's done isall those effects in that movie
are done practically, yeah, andone.
It just makes it so much moredisgusting in a good way, yeah
you know what I mean, if you'reinto that kind of movie and it's
just like that movie was madein the 70s and it's better
looking and has a better plotand just visually better than a
(27:25):
lot of movies that come outtoday.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Isn't where that takes place Antarctica.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay, there's another thing dude Going to Stargate
Earth's Stargate was found in.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Antarctica.
Is that why they call itAtlantis?
Yeah, has nothing to do withone another.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, no, they call it Atlantis, because the city
can go underwater, go underwater, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's got a force fieldthat allows it to stay
underwater to hide itself.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So they take their Stargate, the one they found,
and they move it right, or is it?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
they have to operate in Antarctica, I believe okay'm,
I'm wrong, uh, no, yeah, yeah,I think they found it there and
they moved it to a mountain basein america because the only
safe place in the world isamerica, usa, yep.
And then there's a facility, anancients facility, that in
(28:19):
antarctica, and that has a bunchof ancients technology that
they're harvesting and learningabout and stuff Like a big thing
with the ancients is using yourmind to control things and your
DNA controls it.
So they've got a captain'schair that the user has to have
(28:39):
ancient DNA to operate it.
When they sit in it it turns onand then they use their mind to
operate.
Got it, be it flying orshooting, you know, defense,
whatever, or operating theshield, stuff like that.
But yeah, all fun stuff, allfun stuff, all fun stuff.
(29:01):
But then we come back around toit what's going on in
Antarctica?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
that's where they pit the predators and the aliens
against one another.
Alien vs Predator happens inAntarctica yeah, oh, I need to
rewatch that movie because it'snot the best.
Yeah, I remember enjoying itlike when it first came out when
I was younger, but it's, it'snot the best movie.
It's also like ruins the canonsomehow or another, if I
(29:27):
remember correctly, because likealien takes place like 300
years in the future and alienversus predator is like modern
day, so it doesn't work thatwell plot-wise.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I feel like I remember Alien vs Predator being
all right, it was Aliens vsPredator Requiem.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's right.
The sequel to that was let'smake an Alien-Predator hybrid.
Yeah, which was weird.
If you dive deep into the Alienlore, there is a lot of really
weird alien hybrids that theycome up with in the comics and
the books and video games andwhatnot, and it's like I think
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it's all driven.
So alien is like their attemptat making the perfect human
using weird alien DNA thatexisted.
So it's like they're creatingxenomorphs from xenomorphs
almost, if I'm not mistaken butit's all derived by like a
humanoid entity, like demon orsomething like that.
(30:31):
It's really weird if you divereally deep into alien lore.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What's the one where it's like they go to a planet
and the extraterrestrials arelike humanoid looking, but
they're like taller and likereally white.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That is Prometheus, prometheus, there we go, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Those boys were so white that they gave the sun a
sunburn.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Those are like the forerunners.
Those were the engineers inAlien, so that was again the
people who came before and theyframed that like the engineers
are the creators of thexenomorphs, mm-hmm, but they
were just more scientists tryingto utilize alien DNA to create
super soldiers, kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, because the xenomorphs are more so, not
necessarily technologicallyadvanced, but they're a hive
mentality, alien, right Likethey've got a queen, yeah, and
they all operate under thedirection.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
They're not all like controlled under one mind or
anything, they just like reallywork well together Work ants.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, they're more like ants.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, okay, which is weird.
If you dive, dive again, divedeep into the lore, it's like
you find out some really weirdnonsense about xenomorphs, like
that they can breathe in space,oh really, and that like, unless
you shoot them, they're likeimmortal meaning that they live
forever unless they get.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
so they're like elves elves they live forever unless
you kill them.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yes, well, it's like you know they can survive the
vacuum of space.
You know like they can survivelike extreme temperatures,
extreme environments, but if youput a bullet in their head they
die, yeah, which is reallyfunny because it's like that is
such a large jump between alienand aliens.
Which was one was the first onewas a horror movie and the
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second one was like an actionmovie, where the first one had
one alien.
They were trying to survive.
Yeah, everything they tried todo to it to get rid of it, they
couldn't do it.
Okay, and then in the secondone they go into this, to this
planet, and there's like a wholehive of them and they're just
blowing them away, like they'rejust like let me shoot a and
(32:43):
they're just like killing themby the hundreds.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It was such a huge leap and it's such a good movie,
but two is just not as good asone.
Yeah, that's the thing is.
They're all entertaining to me,yeah, but they just have
progressively gotten worse overtime.
Yeah, that is like one of thosefew properties that it's just.
It didn't get better.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, I will say, for specifically on the Predator
side of things like it gotpretty bad for a while there.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
What do you mean?
There was like only twoPredator movies.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
No, because there's two Pred predators.
And then there's the alienverse predator.
There's two of those shoot.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And then there's there's this predator, the one
with the topher grace in it.
You're right, and that one'sgood yeah and then there's the
prey, prey so there is more thanI remember.
And then this badlands,badlands.
But if you do a comparison hereto Aliens, right, mm-hmm,
there's Alien Aliens, which isthe second one, mm-hmm, alien 3,
alien 4, which I think is AlienResurrection, prometheus, alien
(33:50):
Covenant and Alien Romulus, andthen there's Alien Earth coming
out this year.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Alien Earth.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, I don't know how they're going to do that,
but it's like xenomorphs areloose on planet Earth, but it
takes place before the firstmovie.
Interesting, because, like itdoesn't make sense.
Because they show Ridley, themain character, back on Earth in
Alien 2 for a short amount oftime, mm-hmm, and there's
(34:19):
nothing wrong with Earth.
There's nothing wrong withEarth, right, and then they go
back to Earth at the end.
I thought they were going to belike they show up to Earth at
the end of the fourth one andyou know that's supposed to be
the big finale.
They finally make it back home.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And that's a better opportunity to start Alien Earth
the TV show after like, oh,they accidentally bring an alien
with them to Earth and itmultiplies.
You know, yeah, be such abetter spot there.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'm trying to find an answer to this and I'm not.
I was trying to figure out howmany Xenomorph comics there are.
A lot Like it's going to be.
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
There is a lot.
There's no like definitiveanswer.
Just like Power Rangers answer.
Just like power rangers.
You know, there's like amassive amount of power ranger
comics a ridiculous amount ofcomics that like speaking of
sci-fi power rangers rangers.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I feel like that's kind of a big hit right now,
where people are taking littlebits from the show different
power ranger shows and makinglike and making quick little
real videos out of them.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean, people are doing that with a lot of
stuff.
I found a lot of movies towatch just because I saw a clip
from it and it's like I wouldhave never gave this movie a
chance if I didn't see a pieceof this movie and thought, oh,
that looks good.
So, but Power Rangers, that'ssomething else I watched a lot
of as a kid.
Yeah, I remember you havingsome power ranger toys growing
up.
I still have them.
(35:43):
I just cleared it, cleared outthe rest of my belongings from
the house I was living in beforeI got married, oh really.
And I found all my power rangertoys nice, so they're in your
closet now.
They're not a closet, they'rein a spare room on the floor
because I got a lot of stuff out.
I respect that.
I respect that we don't haveroom, but I got to get the stuff
(36:04):
.
So there you go, there you go,yep, cool man.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, my wife told me I had to give some honorable
mentions.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah.
So before we do that, let'sgive a quick little timeline of
sci-fi in general.
Let's do it.
So do you know what isconsidered the first science
fiction property?
What's considered that?
I do not.
It is a little book.
I don't know if you've everheard of it.
(36:33):
It's called Frankenstein.
Really, yeah, that's sci-fiInteresting.
That was written in 1818.
Yeah, that was a long time ago,mm-hmm.
It combines speculative sciencewith gothic horror.
Whoa, got it.
That's something that's justbeen done so much, and some of
(36:56):
it really good and some of itvery bad, mm-hmm, do you
remember that Frankenstein moviethat came out.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It was supposed to be a part of the Dark Universe.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
That was the guy who played Harvey Dent, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, it was like Frankenstein and gargoyles.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I never saw it, but I remember it oh you never saw it
.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
No, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I feel like there was an age there where it was like
let's start this movie universeor just in general, movies in
like between 2005 and 2010.
Just really weird movies comingout.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, this one was weird because the bad guys are
like these demonic aliens ordemonic vampires.
I guess they are demons,they're demons.
You can just say vampires.
I guess they are demons,they're demons, you can just say
vampires.
No, they are demons.
I'm sorry, I was trying to saythat they were vampires, but
they're not, they're demons.
And then gargoyles are actuallylike a sub-genre of angels that
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were sent down to Earth toguard Earth from these demons,
and they basically try to teamup with Frankenstein to defeat
the demons.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
We did.
We had a lot of movies likethat, like what was it Didn't we
get?
We had the Mummy.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, with Tom Cruise , with Tom Cruise, not the good
OG Mummy.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
We had Dracula, untold yeah, which?
That one was Luke Evans, likethe origin story, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
And then we got the invisibleman.
But we did get the invisibleman, you're right, right, and
out of those four, the only onethat was actually good was the
(38:39):
Invisible man, in my opinion.
Yeah, because they did itdifferent and it was very
sci-fi-y and less like well, itall could be considered sci-fi,
yeah, but less like chemicalchange.
You know, he's actuallyinvisible, like his body's
invisible.
It was more technology-basedbase of like I'm using
(39:01):
technology to make myselfinvisible.
Yeah, it was like a suit, yeah,yeah, yeah, it was such a good
movie awesome, so he didn't haveto strip down naked like in
league of extraordinarygentlemen.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
That or hollow man or hollow man yeah yeah, which was
also actually a pretty goodmovie yeah, that's what I felt
like when all those monsterhorror movies came out.
I felt like they were trying torelaunch the League of
Extraordinary Gentlemen Right,because they had all the same
players.
They had Jackal and Mr Hyde,they had the Invisible man.
(39:35):
Who else did they have?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
They had Sean Connery .
They had Sean Connery.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Well, no, in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Yeah, they had Alan Quartermain, they had Nemo, they had the
wife of Dracula, they had.
Did they have Dorian Marlin?
No, no, they couldn't affordhim.
Yeah, who else, mr Grey?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yep, dorian Grey, right.
Dorian Gray, mm-hmm, the manwho was immortal.
The immortal man, mm-hmm who.
What did you do?
Hey dude, what's yoursuperpower?
I live forever, yeah, but whatdo you do?
I live forever.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, but he can't be killed.
That's the thing.
Like there's nothing that cankill him unless he looks like
all his pain and age is put onhis picture.
So any kind of stab or shot ormangle or whatever, it's all
pushed onto the portrait.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
It ends up hey bro, look at this.
What is it?
It's just a picture of him.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, the moment he looks at the portrait, all of
it's transferred back onto him.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
So if anybody else looks at it, it's just like
horrific looking painting of areally decrepit old man.
Got it?
Yep, Cool, Pretty, messed up.
So you know.
1818, we had Frankenstein andthen a few other.
We're getting back to thetimeline, by the way.
Sure, no good call.
So the 1800s in general.
We had Jules Verne and HG Wells, recall.
(41:02):
So the 1800s in general.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
We had jules verne and hd wells.
Do you know what they wrote?
That would be the.
Let's start with jules verne.
What is it?
War um war of the worlds.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
That was hg well, that was hg wells, yeah, yeah,
what did jules verne do?
Journey to the center of theearth and 20 000 leagues under
the.
There we go.
Yeah, hd wells also wrote thetime machine, really, yep.
So they, with those books, theyintroduced time travel, space
exploration and alien invasionthemes, and exploring the depths
(41:33):
of the ocean, sure yep okay,whatever sorry, sorry, space and
ocean exploration, nitpickJairus' notes, anyways, okay.
(41:56):
So then in the 1920s to the1940s you know again, these are
just like kind of generalizedplot points, but like the major
ones is like we had a rise ofthe pulp kind of era of stuff.
So like magazines, like theamazing stories and stories, you
know a lot of stuff focused onadventure, aliens, robots and
future tech, and you had peoplelike isaac asm asimov, arthur c
clark and robert heinlein, justfamous authors in that genre.
(42:19):
No, really given specifics, butyou know, yeah, yeah, they had
the 1940s, 1950s.
That was the golden age 1940sto 1950s.
Mm-hmm, and that was like youknow hard science, space travel
and technological optimism Okayyeah.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Technological optimism.
So the Jetsons when the Jetsonswas up, yeah, that kind of
stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Okay, it's like that feeling of like happy,
futuristic kind of stuff.
Now I got to look that up.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
When did the Jetsons?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
air, and then we're going to make a go ahead, go
ahead and answer your questionwhen it was the 1960s, 1962,
yeah, so, but yeah, that wouldbe part of that, if I'm not
mistaken.
Okay, just more happier.
Yeah, yeah, the family of thefuture, yeah, that kind of thing
, mm-hmm.
And we're going to jump ahead alittle bit, okay, because this
is where we're going to get backinto movies.
(43:10):
Okay, so, can you name thesci-fi and pop culture 1970s to
1990s famous films?
I mean, predator's got to beone of them, right, not on my
list, but yeah, okay, star Wars,star Wars, there we go.
That's the one I was trying tolead you into.
Star Trek, star Trek.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I can't think of any other ones Come on now Star Wars
Star.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Trek Star Mountain.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Star Mountain.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Star Mountain?
I don't know.
No, so we have the TwilightZone, oh, one of my favorite TV
shows.
I always keep on forgettingabout that.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Was it because you never really watched it?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I never really watched it and I kind of lumped
it in with suspense thriller itis sci-fi, but it's very
sci-fifi and if you watch it now, it is very well written and
it's not like spirituallycompromising.
You know what I mean.
It was always, yeah, it wasn'tpreaching, you know, and
(44:13):
spreading the love of christ,yeah, but it was always good
versus evil.
Yeah, in that sense, like there, like, I think there was one
where, like, the devil shows upand it's like you have to, they
had to be against the devil.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
They were opposing the devil,you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, which is it's always nice to see, for sure, a
good versus evil, yep, and it'snice to see when they're not
portraying the evil as good.
Correct, which we have spoke onbefore.
We have talked about thatbefore Some other hits, and
these are some of my favoriteBlade Runner, spaceballs no, not
(44:52):
Spaceballs, I've never actuallyreally seen that film.
Oh, you haven't.
No, I know what it's about.
I mean, I know it's a parody onStar Wars and whatnot, yeah.
But Blade Runner, okay, withHarrison Ford, with Harrison
Ford, great movie, yep,fantastic movie.
Even the sequel was pretty good.
Blade Runner 2047.
2047.
(45:12):
That was a good movie.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
What's the 2047?
Just the year it happened.
Oh okay, yeah, the year ithappened.
Oh okay, yeah, all rightnothing crazy.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yep, not too far off, got it okay.
The matrix, the matrix, thematrix.
You don't think the matrix issci-fi?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
no, but I thought we were in the 70s and 80s.
I said 70s to the 90s.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Oh, okay, pay attention, john dang.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Okay, yeah, the matrix is that that was probably
one of the bigger ones, butagain it's like another one of
those, in my opinion.
That, okay, pay attention.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
John Dang.
Okay, yeah, the Matrix is dead.
That was probably one of thebigger ones, but again it's like
another one of those, in myopinion, that it started very
strong and just kind of gotworse as the movie's going along
.
Yeah, I've heard a lot ofpeople didn't like number four.
Number four is awful.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
I tried to start watching itand I couldn't get very far.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I mean that's what I've heard.
I tried to start watching itand I couldn't get very far.
I mean it's just like okay,let's put it this way.
It's like I think that it's acop-out.
When you create characters andyou don't need to attempt to
cause, especially when you havesomething like the Matrix, where
you have risks of charactersdying.
There is a lot of problems thatyou're dealing with and high
risk, high reward with whatthey're trying to accomplish.
(46:21):
Yeah, not a single characterdies in the matrix 4.
No one, no one dies in thematrix 4.
Not only does no one diespoiler alert, everybody.
By the way, they bring back neo.
Yeah, it's like like a hugepoint of the third movie of him
sacrificing himself to saveeverybody and they just bring
(46:44):
him back just so they can makemore money.
It was very much a let's makemoney movie.
It wasn't let's make a movie tomake a good story.
Yeah, a great story.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, well, in that case, stargate came out in the
90s, so Stargate would be a bigone.
Yeah, farscape, is that onthere?
No, oh, that's not that biganyways.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, that's why it's not on my list.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I know there's probably at least one to two
people who listen to thispodcast, who have heard of and
or watched Farscape.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
All right, everybody.
All the big Farscape.
Yeah, don't watch it.
Everybody all the big Farscapes.
Let's all join hands insolidarity in the comments
section below yeah, Let Johnknow you're here, Don't let him
feel alone.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
No, I didn't even finish it.
I watched like a coupleepisodes I was like hey, don't
be modest.
This is too weird.
No, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Everybody get out there and join John.
No, don't, don't watch it.
And let us all know aboutFarscape.
Don't watch it, anyways, yeah.
So let's say, you know Matrix,and then Alien.
Alien, which is again one ofthe best sci-fi movies ever,
according to you, yep, based offa fact.
So let's get into the modernsci-fi era.
(48:02):
Okay, we have, you know somebig ones.
I would say Okay hold on.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
So nothing about Edgar Rice Burroughs in your
timeline there.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
No, that's weird, because he wrote no one cares
about Tarzan.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
No, he wrote all the John Carter books.
He wrote the-.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
This is a very, very vague, brief summary in general.
I'm just giving examples withinthese eras.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You know.
So there you go.
And then you know the modernera, which is, you know, 2000s
to today.
Okay, and you have shows likeBlack Mirror, the Expanse and
Dune the Expanse yeah, that's abig hitter for him.
I hear a lot about the ExpanseReally.
Yeah, it's pretty big, Okay.
Just because it's not big inyour life doesn't mean it's not
(48:51):
big.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
All right, I will say I did enjoy the Tomorrow War.
Did you ever watch that?
That?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
was the one with Chris Pratt.
That was a good movie.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
That was good.
What are some modern sci-fisthat I've enjoyed?
Oh, of course, sequel to StarWars.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
No, just kidding, oh gotta love that, gotta love it.
Rise of Skywalker I love hey.
What's your name Rey?
What's your last name, star?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Wars.
I love when they make fun of it.
There's like an animation ofAnakin and Obi-Wan fighting on
the volcano planet Uh-huh.
And then Anakin lands a hit onObi-Wan and Obi-Wan's like, oh
shoot, well, I'll just forceheal real quick, you can do that
.
Anakin's like, wait, we can dothat.
(49:44):
And he's like, yeah, of courseI can just force heal.
And he's like I want to changesides.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
No, it's too late.
Oh man, yeah, we can get onthat for a second Dumb.
If you look at, compare StarTrek to Star Wars, right, I know
there's that huge debate allthe time, right, star Trek, when
(50:11):
it comes to storytelling, isbetter.
Star Wars is more approachableand more easy to get into.
Okay, because it's a lot morebasic than Star Trek.
Yeah, but Star Trek is so muchmore expansible.
There's so much more media toconsume.
Mm-hmm, if you're trying to getinto a deep, deep, lord, lore,
(50:33):
lore Filled Universe, there wego.
Thank you, star Trek is the wayto go.
If you want something a littlebit more simple, you know Star
Wars.
They're both good for onereason or another, but there is
more good Star Trek mediaproperties, whether it be movie
(50:54):
or TV show, than there are Star.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Wars, so it'd be the equivalent to, in fantasy, lord
of the Rings and Chronicles ofNarnia.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, they're both good, but for their own reasons.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, but Lord of the Rings is heavy in the lore but
Chronicles of Narnia is veryeasy to consume.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yes, really, one is more child-oriented, made for
children.
Star Wars is made for children,it really is.
Let's be honest, it's a Disneyfilm, yeah, well, now it is.
Now it is.
Even back then it was made forkids.
Okay, all right, star Trek wasnot made for kids.
I got you, so there you go.
I mean, that's kind of how itis.
It's like, if you wantsomething that's a little bit
(51:38):
more adult themed, but not likeinappropriate, yeah, star Trek
Got it, but both are good.
Older Star Trek is, though,harder to watch, like the first
not first, just the originalStar Trek show.
It is a little cheesy and lowbudget.
But if you, you can kind ofpick any, cause there's so many
(52:00):
different star Trek shows.
Yeah, you can kind of just pickone and go.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, so Star Wars is for kids, star Trek is for
adults.
What are we?
Speaker 1 (52:11):
for yeah, I had to throw it in there Apparently
multiple times, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
That's right.
Our podcast is for Gondor Didyou watch Dune?
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, I've seen it.
Dune's really good.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
It is pretty good.
Yeah, there's a podcast Ilisten to and they talked about
Dune at one point and they'relike I feel like what's the
character?
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Charlemagne, that is Paul Atreides.
No, no, no.
What After Charlemagne?
That is Paul Atreides.
No, no, no.
What's the actor's name?
Oh, timothee Chalamet.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
I said it wrong on purpose.
I was like I feel like he couldbe in anything and he is.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
He shows up, he's in a lot of stuff.
I've seen so many movies withhim in it and he is that
versatile of an actor.
Yeah, I watched him in dune.
Then he is willie, wonka, yepand wonka and then he played
like what's that artist's name?
Like there was a dumb, you knowbiopic that came out recently
(53:09):
about oh geez I can't think ofhere you know I'm talking about,
though, and he plays like thisartist, so it's just like he.
He is a really good actor.
Yeah, he's also in that reallyfunny SNL skit where they're
trying to be like millennialrappers.
Yeah, it's just like you knowwhat I'm talking about yeah,
(53:32):
he's in it with Pete Davidson.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
There we go.
Pete Davidson, this is sayingthat he was in interstellar.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
He might have been like.
I don't remember him.
I need to re-watch interstellarthen.
Great sci-fi.
Yeah, that was a great sci-fi.
I've been listening, actually,to the soundtrack this week.
It's such a great soundtrack.
Anything that christopher nolanputs out is a hit he was in
little women was he one of thelittle women?
Was he one of the?
Was he one of the Little Women?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Was he one of the Little Women?
Was he one of the Little Women?
No, I don't think so.
He was in that Netflix movie,the King.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
I don't know if you watched that Bob Dylan.
He played Bob Dylan, bob Dylan.
Yeah, I'm seeing it right here.
See, I figured it out beforeyou did.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
See, see, what are some other things.
He was in Hostiles.
I didn't watch that it's aWestern Edgar Scissorhands,
edgar Scissorhands, what?
That's what it says EdgarScissorhands, not Edward
Scissorhands.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Getting into some weird stuff here.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, why is he trying to follow in Johnny
Depp's footsteps?
He?
Speaker 1 (54:41):
kind of is isn't he?
Speaker 2 (54:42):
He kind of is they're going to revamp Pirates and
he's going to read Jack yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I was going to say just Timothy Shaolin, and it's
just going to get out there andhe's just going to play all the
roles that Johnny Depp played.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
I think it would be funny if Johnny Depp did a like
a parody sketch of him being inDune, just to get back at him.
That'd be funny.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Anyways, that's pretty much all what we have on
sci-fi.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah, that's it for the most part.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
I do have a little corner if you want to get into
that action hey, then let's goahead and let tyler know what
we're about to do, tyler we aregoing to transition into the
corner step inside if you dare.
Shadows move, mysteries whisperand the unknown awaits.
(55:41):
Welcome to the corner.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Okay, I have a story for you.
Yeah, and it's relatable towhat we've been talking about.
Okay, it's sci-fi-y, okay, sothere is a document that was
released by the CIA and in thedocument they mentioned that
they have a file that hastestimonies, pictures, drawings
(56:24):
of an event that happened inSiberia.
Okay, that involved Sovietsoldiers and aliens, aliens.
So, and okay, the reason I'mdoing it this way and I'm not
just generally talking aboutaliens is because there's a lot
to say when it comes to aliensand we're just going to touch on
(56:45):
different things becausethere's so much.
But this is an event thatallegedly happened in Russia,
where Soviet soldiers shot downa UFO.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
Allegedly, allegedly.
This is all allegedly.
This is what the document says.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yes, okay, okay.
So the KGB had all thisdocumentation and with the fall
of the Soviet Union, somehow theCIA got their hands on this
document.
Union, somehow the CIA gottheir hands on this document.
But, yeah, so the soldiers shotdown a UFO and there were five
(57:32):
small entities that stepped outof said UFO and the soldiers
were surrounding, or whatever.
These entities morphed togetherinto a singular ball-like
object.
What and it started like doingthis, you know, kind of like a
rattling, like shaking.
So all the entities, all five ofthe entities, get together and
they morph into a perfect sphereand then the sphere kind of
(57:56):
like builds up, almost like it'sbuilding up, and then emits a
bright light, jeez, and itpetrifies a certain number of
Soviet soldiers.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Like it shoots through, turns them to stone and
only I think it was only likeone or two soldiers survive and
then the sphere disappears,spooky, and so they you know the
kgb they come and theybasically they clean up, they
get rid of the petrifiedsoldiers, they get rid of the
ship and they collect all thedocumentation for it, catalog it
(58:34):
, put it away, and then thensomehow the CIA gets their hand
on this document and they havereleased it, saying like, hey,
this is what we've got.
Allegedly, this has happened.
So, yeah, interesting story,but there's a lot of stories
that have to do with aliens andRussia.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
It's weird Is it because Russia is really
expansive, really large amountof space with a lot of land and
not a lot of people you couldsay that, but there is a.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
I think what it is is there's a lake in Russia called
Lake Baikal and there's areally-.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
How do you take appointments?
Baikal, baikal yeah, andthere's a really—.
How do you take appointments bycall, by call.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, no, but there's an alien-esque story that came
out of that that once again hadto do with the Russian military
and aliens.
But I think that if there werealien creatures like we know
them today, like small gray menwith black eyes, I think that
(59:40):
there would be a base in Russiain Lake Baikal.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
So like an Area 51 Russia.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
No, because the Russians don't control it.
The aliens control that space.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, so that's my.
I think, the more and more I'mhearing about alien stories.
I don't think they're fromouter space.
I think they're from either theocean or from what people call
hollow earth.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
And they come up.
They come up to our side, in asense, to test technology.
Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Full circle, baby, full circle.
Yeah, going right back toAtlantis and Jason Momoa, that's
right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
But yeah, at some point we're going to have to get
in and talk about Admiral Byrd.
He's notoriously the guy forHollow Earth because he did an
exploration to Antarctica.
He was the first, I think,military dedicated exploration
to Antarctica and he flew aplane over the North Pole and he
(01:00:45):
said that there was a circularspace and inside it was green
vegetation in the middle of theso like a perfectly livable land
, just a small mount in themiddle of Antarctica that's
growing plants that's shootingdown in, I think is what he was
alleging to Gotcha and like it'sjust the entrance to it, to
(01:01:08):
Hollow Earth was at the NorthPole.
And then he goes down there anda man crawls out and it's Jack
Black and he says I am steveyeah, yeah, but yeah, so that's
what I have for aliens is justthis really bizarre story where
they turn russian, russiansoldiers into stone by morphing
(01:01:31):
into a sphere and shooting us.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
They literally showed up and said want to play ball.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah, exactly, oh.
You want to shoot my ship down.
I'm going to turn you to stone,jeez.
Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Like petrified, like turned to stone, or were they
just like frozen, like in feartype petrified?
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Like did they die?
No, like what a petrified.
Like petrified is like.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
No, they were literally turnedto stone, got it?
Because if you have a petrifiedwood, it's almost like it's a
stony substance.
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
So just, they were just Medusa's minions.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, medusa's minions, right, that's the best
way to look at it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Bring it back again.
They kind of Power Ranger'd upwhere they all morphed together,
yep, and they shot out theirMedusa beam.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Mm-hmm, yeah, to suck out the life essence of the
human Gould, right Gould.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Oh man.
Well, thank you for bringingsome great content to us on
today's corner.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Thank you for listening to said content and
we'll let everyone listeningdecide if it was great or not.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
All right.
So everybody in the comments,don't forget to comment about
Edgewood or Edge.
What was it?
Edge Drop, what was the showyou said don't anybody watch?
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm not going to say it now.
I don't want anyone to watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
They'll just rewind.
Okay, farscape, farscape,that's it.
Edgewood when did you even comefrom?
There is, what is it?
There's another sci-fi show.
It's like Edgewood or BurnwoodI'll have to look it up, but
it's very much similar.
Gotcha, they're like X-Filesman.
We could really get into this.
Now, now that we're wrapping upthe episode, I'm going to start
(01:03:15):
naming off all these differentgreat sci-fi shows Fringe,
fringe yeah, fringe was great.
Yep, I think X-Files was, youknow, really great.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yeah, we didn't even talk.
Bailey talked about BlackMirror, which is like a modern
Twilight Zone.
Yeah, it is, yeah, yeah, what'sthe?
What's the Maze Runner?
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
show.
Did you ever watch that?
Yeah, there's so many greatsci-fi shows sci-fi, though
that's more.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I guess that would be more apocalyptic.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, dang anyways.
So after talking about all thissci-fi stuff, I just want to
let you guys know Christ is Lordand the kingdom is now.
We are the saints that serve.
Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Now tell us funny jokes to end this out um, what
did the tree say to the dog bark?
No, I said quit peeing on me,you sicko.
I got jokes.
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