Episode 34 - The Real Cinco de Mayo

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Why do so many celebrate Cinco de Mayo without knowing its true meaning? In this episode, we dive into the real story behind the 1862 Battle of Puebla, where a small Mexican force defeated a much larger French army. We explore how this lesser-known Mexican holiday became a popular celebration in the U.S., shaped by decades of media and marketing.

We also share our tradition of watching Nacho Libre—the hilarious Jack Black film inspired by a real priest who wrestled to support his orphanage—and explore its surprising religious themes. Plus, we take a mysterious turn with a look at the Chupacabra legend and the science behind the sightings.

Through it all, we reflect on how culture, history, and mystery connect to a deeper truth: that while empires fade, God’s kingdom stands forever.

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Saints that Serve
podcast with your hosts.
I'm Johnny, I'm Jairus andwe're here to say feliz cinco de
mayo, feliz navidad no, it'snot christmas.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's not christmas.
Happy cinco de mayo, guys.
Yeah, feliz cinco de mayo,feliz cinco de mayo.
I'm gonna say it wrong, thewhole episode, by the way, to
offend somebody there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
We decided to do a themed episode today because it
is a holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
And it might actually be the first time that a
holiday lands on the day thatthe episode comes out.
So, very much on this day,happy Cinco de Mayo, that's
right.

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It is a really fun.

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you go and take a listen?

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Good time.
We had a good time.
There was some pretty funnyconversation that came out of
the bidding.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's right, and we had a very, very lovely,
beautiful guest on that episode.
We did have a guest on thatepisode and it was great, yep,
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So Alrighty Well, with further to do.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Let's get into the main topic of this episode.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
So, tyler, this is your transition into Cinco de.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Mayo, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
That's really funny, though Iwill say Do it one more time.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Cinco de Mayo hey, closer.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Closer, but still not great.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
The Mexican restaurant right here by our
area.
They're advertising for Cincode Mayo.
They're going to have a live DJand a mechanical bull.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, so you're talking about the one over at
kroger right, yeah, yeah, howthere's no space in there.
I'm assuming that they're gonnahave to like even if they do it
out on the parking lot, somehowthey have to do something in
the parking lot because there'sno room in that restaurant at
all for a mechanical bullthere's no way I've always made

(07:24):
the commitment of I am not goingto any Mexican restaurant or
anything on the day of, becauseyou just it's not going to
happen.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
We try to do a fun thing where we make food at the
house and we watch the samemovie every year.
Is that the movie we're talkingabout later on?
Yeah, okay, we watch it everysingle single time.
Is that the movie we're talkingabout later on?
Yeah, okay, yeah, we watch itevery single Cinco de Mayo.
Great movie, by the way, it isa great movie you guys are going
to.
If you haven't watched it,you're going to love it.

(07:53):
We'll talk about it later,because it's a few later, yep,
anyways, hit me with some ofthat knowledge.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Juris.
So let's talk about a littlebit of the history of Cinco de
Mayo.
All right, so it is in fact notthe Mexican Independence Day,
really, that is correct.
The Mexican Independence Day isSeptember 16th.
That is celebrating Father andforgive me, I'm not going to be

(08:21):
able to pronounce these names,because I'm just awful at words.
I'm struggling on reading thisright now, but that is Father
Miguel Hidalgo's Grito deDolores, a Call to Rebellion
Against Spanish Rule.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Oh, and that's in.
You said September, that isSeptember 16th.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yes, sir, okay, gotcha, but Cinco de Mayo
celebrates the Battle of Puebla,and that is fought on May 5th.
Puebla, puebla, puebla.
Thank you, you're welcome.
That was fought on May 5th 1862, over 50 years after
independence, which was 1810.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Okay, can we acknowledge the irony?
The general led by GeneralIgnacio, ignacio, ignacio,
that's a name from the movielater.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yes, I know, I know which.
By the way, I'll talk aboutthis more didn't realize that
was his name.
I have a lot of things aboutthat movie I didn't realize.
So the battle right, mm-hmm, ithappened after.
So the Puebla Is that right?
Puebla, puebla, poo.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Poo.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Way, way, bla, puebla , puebla.
I'm not going to do it rightagain.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
But so that happened.
After the Mexican-American Warand Civil War, mexico was
bankrupt.
Okay, that's right.
At the time, the president ofMexico suspended payment on
foreign debts for two years, andFrance, under Napoleon III, saw
this as an opportunity toexpand influence and install a

(10:01):
monarchy in the Americasicaswhich would threaten us
sovereignty.
During the civil war, francesent troops to collect debt.
Spain and britain withdrewpeacefully, but france invaded
with intent to conquer yep.
So it was about land grabbingfrom the French.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, this little thing I'm reading from Wikipedia
says that after this battle, alarger French force ultimately
defeated the Mexican army at thesecond battle of Puebla and
then occupied Mexico CityInteresting.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
On May 5th 1862, like you said, general Ignacio
Ignacio Led about 4,000 Mexicantroops to defend the city of
Puebla.
Puebla, the French army wasbetter equipped but had twice as
many troops and hadn't lost abattle in decades.
No, despite the odds, mexicanforces won decisively Nice.

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This wasn't the end of theFrench efforts, though.
Napoleon eventually installedMaximilian I as emperor of
Mexico, but the victory overPuebla became a symbol of
resistance, unity and nationalpride.
Whoa became a symbol ofresistance, unity and national
pride.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Whoa, I did not realize that the French won a
battle, apparently they werevery good because they never
lost before.
Yeah, they hadn't lost in along time, you know, minus all
that losing they did beforeAmerica was founded, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Against the English, Ignacio became a national hero.
He famously wrote the nationalarms have been covered with
glory.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Ignacio, where are your robes?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Spoilers to later on in the episode.
No, you're good.
You're good, Though short-lived.
The morale boost galvanized theMexican people.
Are you ready for this?
I?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
just saw that it's also called El Dia de la Batalla
de Puebla, which translates towhat?
De Puebla?
Which translates to what?
The day of the battle of Puebla, nice, I believe, is how he
would translate that.
I am not actually a Spanishspeaking person.

(12:37):
I can say a couple things.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
You are better than me.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, you can speak Japanese, better than me, though
, hi.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, you can speak Japanese better than me, though,
aye, aye.
So in 1867, mexican Republicans, with US support, after the
Civil War, overthrew Maximilianand reclaimed their sovereignty.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Heck yeah, wait a minute.
This has happened before.
Mm-hmm, so that is Cinco deMayo?
Heck yeah, wait a minute, thishas happened before.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So that is Cinco de Mayo, right?
That is really what it's aboutis, you know, the victory over
the French, who ended up comingback and winning, and then we
kicked them out.
But it's about you know, thatdavid and goliath story right,
the little army defeating thelarge army, protecting their

(13:30):
land over invasion, which is areally nice connection there you
know.
Yeah, yeah and uh, wow.
My question is is how did itend up being a party holiday?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
so I think that so like it's celebrated, because
the battle at puebla, thevictory at puebla was, like,
looked at as a sign ofresistance.
So, even though the french wonthe next battle and established,

(14:04):
you know, a governance andstuff in Mexico, the Mexicans
still resisted and they're likewe're going to get our country
back until ultimately they wereable to get it back and then to
celebrate that victory over thepowerhouse of France, you know
they establish, let'scommemorate every year that one

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battle that we did really goodat.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, what I've got here says that it's been
virtually forgotten in most ofMexico except for Palabra.
Yeah, like the holiday itself,just like, of course, it's like
we have a major thing thathappens in our city.
It's going to be major news fora little while everywhere, but
the that it happens we'll neverforget.
Yep, you know what I mean.
I asked somebody about theflood that happened in the city,

(14:53):
that near that, you know, ingeorgia and atlanta, like what
was it?
Maybe 10 years ago, everythingwas terribly flooded, destroyed
streets.
Nobody except for us remembersthat.
You know so because we went.
Except for us remembers that.
You know so because we wentthrough it.
Everybody going through it, youknow and then imagine this to
make that correlation too iseverybody else in the whole

(15:15):
entire else.
We suffered and everybody elseis having parties in all the
other states about our flood.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, and, to be honest, there was at one point
in my life where I just knew weyou know, singa de mayo's a
mexican themed holiday.
I honestly, for a while thoughtthat it was.
I confused it with dia de losmuertos, which is the day of the
is the Day of the Dead, the Dayof the Dead, mm-hmm.

(15:47):
And so I was like, oh yeah,we'll go and we'll celebrate
with Mexican-themed decorationsand food, but we're not going to
go all the way because we don'twant to celebrate the Day of
the Dead, right.
And then I was like, wait aminute.
And then I can't remember whotold me.
It was probably my wife,because she's super smart, but
it was probably like hey, john,you know that's in October,

(16:07):
right, I was like what?
The Day of the Dead?
I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
No, it's May 5th.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It's in the name wife yeah, we celebrate it at the
beginning of May.
And yeah, nope, totallydifferent, totally different.
And so I was like, so what isit?
And then someone said it's theMexican independence.
I was like, oh okay.
And then here we are today.
It's not the Mexicanindependence, it is the

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celebration of rebelling againstthe French empire.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's right.
So the holiday became a way topromote heritage, combat racism
and affirm cultural pride,especially in the face of
assimilation pressures.
Yeah, it was popularizedfurther in the 1980s and 1990s
by beer and food companies,hence the modern, party-centric

(17:01):
version.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, dude, what the.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Right.
Here's the problem, thoughright At the end of the day,
there are so many holidays thathave been commercialized, and
that is why a lot of holidaysChristmas, easter, st Patrick's
Day, Cinco de Mayo are allholidays that have really been,

(17:26):
you know, transformed intosomething different than what
actually is supposed torepresent.
Yeah, for the gain of money.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think St Patrick's Day you know, bringing it up is
the most outlandish andfar-fetched one, because it's
all about, you know, today, stPatrick's Day celebration, it's
all about, oh, wear green anddrink and that's what we're
going to do.
And it's like, wait a minute,it's St Patrick's Day.

(17:55):
It's about a Christian bishop,you know, like, why would you be
getting drunk on a day that'scelebrating a Christian Right?
You?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
know, it's just they're out there like oh, that
saint really served.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, so, but yeah, it's the same thing with.
Here it's like celebratingindependence and liberation from
France and it's just like we'reremembering how we overcame
this.
But in America it's like, ohyeah, give us some margaritas.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
And then, like five years ago, everybody was like
give me Corona, yeah.
And then after something, andthen they're like we don't want
Corona anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Maybe Dos Equis, I don't know.
I don't know.
You got to be careful abouttalking about.
What's the other one, what'sthe really big Mexican beer?
Now it's called Heineken.
No.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Guys, that's German.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Heineken, you silly goose Trying to sneak in here.
Heineken, I'm going to be somad that I can't remember what
it is.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Modelo.
There we go.
I've never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
You've never heard of Modelo, nope, oh yeah, it's
pretty popular, I guess, amongcertain groups, among you, among
me I don't drink Modelo, justserve on this.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
We talked about it earlier, but it does.
If you want to make aconnection to the Bible, right,
david and Goliath?
Yeah, israel in general.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's kind of a story
throughout the ages, right?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Right, it's always the underdog story.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Mm-hmm, you know, yeah, of a story throughout the
ages, right, right, it's alwaysthe underdog story, you know,
yeah, and it kind of makes mewonder, like here we are today,
what's gonna like, becauseeventually I mean the french
empire, the second french empire, is not around anymore.
You know, france as a countryitself is like very tiny
compared to what they werebefore right.
They're not an empire anymoreand really all that they have

(20:11):
going for them is tourism now.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
They are not really known around the world for
anything else besides.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Go look at my tower.
We have a fancy tower, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I have a fancy tower and I'll argue with you about
how our baguettes are betterthan anyone else's, and I wear
stupid berets.
No, I don't know.
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Do you want me to bring youback a stupid beret?
Yeah, bring me back a stupidberet, okay, and I'll shave my
beard and cut my mustache to apencil mustache and I want you

(20:45):
to go and I'll wear turtleneckseverywhere I go.
No, yeah, but you know.
And so now we look at it today,we're like what are the
powerhouse countries today?
You know, it's America, it'sChina, it's Russia.
Like in 100 years, where are wegoing to be?

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You know, are we going to evenbe the head runner in the world,
you know?
So it's like looking back inhistory at things like this,
where it's like, hey, eventhough you're the top dog
doesn't mean you're always goingto be and it doesn't mean that
you're going to.
You know, be undisputed byeverybody, by anybody.

(21:28):
And I think that that's good,because it reminds us like, hey,
there's no kingdom on earththat endures except the kingdom
of God.
Correct, because here we are,2,000 years removed from Christ,
and the kingdom of God is stillgrowing.
You know, it's not declining.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean God has literally stood true and strong
since the beginning of time.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yes, yeah.
And he makes it clear likethere is no power above me or
equal to me.
All things are under me and Iam extending grace to my
creation in order for them toreceive forgiveness for their
sins, to become an heir of mykingdom that I've established.

(22:18):
That's such a cool promise fromGod.
It's like, hey, you're going toinherit creation from me, I'm
going to give it to you, butfirst you have to actually
identify with me, Like you'vegot to be a part of me.
You can't be a part of your ownlittle kingdom or a part of one
of the kingdoms of the world.
Like you've got to side with me, and that's the only way you'll

(22:40):
receive this forgiveness.
You've got to actuallyacknowledge that I'm God.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Right, you know, only way you'll receive this
forgiveness is you've got toactually acknowledge that I'm
god right now, and that's a,that's a challenge to our
listeners.
Right, like you know what?
What are you going to standwith, right?
You know, I'm sure a lot, a lotof people were standing with
france, right, oh, we're youknow, we're sure for for sure,
gonna win, and they didn't.
You know, are you gonna?
Are you gonna stand with a sidethat we know for a fact is

(23:06):
going to lose?
We've been told, you know, evilis going to lose.
Are you going to stand with theside that is going to win?
You know, we know we're goingto win.
The facts are there, you know,it's just.
Really.
Do you want to be part of thosenumbers when we win?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, and you know, I'm thinking about the verse in
Ephesians where Paul talks aboutour battle is not against flesh
and blood, but against thepowers, the authorities, the
principalities and the spiritsof the air.
And just thinking about that, alot of people want to interpret
that as like, oh, we're notsupposed to fight anybody, it's
just prayer, we're just supposedto pray, and it's like no, it's

(23:44):
just prayer, we're justsupposed to pray, and it's like
no, it's, it's standing fortruth, um, standing in
opposition against prince,worldly principles right,
because there's people who can,who will stand and represent the
devil yeah, and theidea that that person can be
earthly, and we're're notsupposed to practice violence

(24:07):
against the people.
We're supposed to stand intruth and stand in opposition
against those principalitiesthat those people may be
indoctrinated with.
But if we speak truth in theauthority of Jesus Christ, it
will overcome all things, and wedo it in the hope that even

(24:28):
people that align with it willrepent and will come into the
light of Jesus Christ.
So I think that it's important,you know, because you could
take either side of the wholewar that happened between the
French and Mexicans, war thathappened between the French and
the Mexicans.
You could think that you're theunderdog and you're going to
have your battle where you beatGod and you're going to be on

(24:50):
top of the world.
Or you could be on the side,the French side, and saying like
we're, we're so strong, we'reso powerful, how could God even
compete with this?
You know, and the reality is, isthat both sides, regardless of
outcomes, are both brought lowbefore God.
You know, all things arebrought low before God, exactly,

(25:11):
all things come into alignmentwith the kingdom.
So, yeah, cool stuff, that'sright, great, yeah, yeah.
So what are you going to do onSingin' Tomorrow?
Or what are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I should say Spoiler alert we're pre-recording this
episode.
This is not a live one, sorry,guys, Probably just hang out
because to prep for this episode, I watched your traditional
movie.
All right, so I hadn't watchedit in years, yeah, but it's

(25:45):
still a great one.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Do you know what you can watch, since you watched
that one already?
Muppets, treasure Island.
No, no, no, it's themed.
You can watch Once Upon a Timein Mexico.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh, that's true, that's got.
Or Zorro, zorro, same guy right.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, antonio Banderas.
Yeah, that's it.
Ironically, though, I thinkhe's from Spain.
Yeah, once upon a time inmexico, starring the spaniard,
starring a spaniard.
Uh, he's in expendables 3.
You can watch expendables 3,yeah, or the 13th warrior has

(26:23):
nothing to do with this.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
We're gonna watch all the studio ghibli films.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Have you watched the 13th Warrior with Antonio
Banderas?
Mm-mm, okay, it's so funny.
So Antonio Banderas, he's knownas, like the Latin king, right
Mm-hmm, but in this movie heplays an Arab Okay, vikings and
goes to Norseland and fightsagainst this mysterious

(26:54):
cannibalistic bear tribe Okay,that pretends to have
supernatural abilities, likeundie, like they're undead, like
they can't be killed, kind ofdeal.
It's a good movie, but it islike when you think about it and
like everything else you'veseen antonio bandera's in,

(27:14):
you're like this is kind ofweird like antonio in a fantasy
medieval film.
As an arab, it's kind ofthrowing me off right, right
right right, and he's like afoot taller or a foot shorter

(27:35):
than everyone else.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
They're all casted perfectly as norsemen well, I
want to get into that, becauseit's also the exact same way
with our main movie topic aswell.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Because?
So you want to give us in avery themed, what movie are we
talking about?

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Okay.
So, tyler, I guess this is yourtransition.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
We're going to call this a semi-transition, because
it's still on topic, but alsooff topic.
I don't know.
It's hard to explain, it'sstill.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
It's on par with what we're talking about, but it's a
little different from talkingthe history of.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Honestly funny enough , this movie has nothing to do
with Cinco de Mayo.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
No, it does not, but we're going to talk about.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Except for your Cinco de Mayo tradition.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, Okay, so me and my family watch this every
Cinco de Mayo and we eat Mexicanfood tacos or chimichangas or
whatever.
We spend a couple hoursprepping it, which is ironic
because the day before is Maythe 4th, and so we do the exact

(28:42):
same thing, but for Star Wars.
We watch a Star Wars movie andwe make Star Wars-themed food.
Normally, we just do a DeathStar pizza every year.
We cop out.
That's the simple thing.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
What one pepperoni on it.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, one pepperoni.
No, we slice the pepperonis inhalf to make like lines across
it, gotcha.
And then we do a couplepepperonis to make like, yeah,
like a circle for the plate.
Yeah, laser, or whatever,anyways, cicadamayo, yeah,
mexican food.
And then we pop in the movieNachos.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
You cut that by like half of what he does in that
movie.
Who, who?
I am the luchador Nacho Libre.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, I watched it last night.
I'm going to fight thestrongest men in the maybe the
world.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
You are not baptized.
God bless you all.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, so we watched that movie and it's so funny.
It's so, so funny.
I love that.
I love Nacho Libre.
It's a good movie and it'sbased off of a true story.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
It is, and that's one of my facts.
I have here right, Lay it on me.
It is inspired by Fray Tormenta, a real Catholic priest, who
wore a luchador mask to supporthis orphanage for over 20 years.
He was a luchador for 20 years,yeah, supporting them.
I don't think he was like hehad to hide it or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Like Nacho does orIgnacio Ign.

(30:08):
He was like he had to hide itor whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah, like Nacho does or Ignacio.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Ignacio, which I didn't realize that was his name
.
Throwback, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Throwback to the general who fought off the
French in Puebla.
Mm-hmm, his name was IgnacioIgnacio, and so is Jack Black in
Nacho Libre.
Nacho Libre, ignacio.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, so yeah, libre, nacho Libre.
Yeah, so yeah, it's.
I just I can't.
This whole segment's probablygonna be us quoting this movie,
just like sitting there thewhole time and being like I
gotta squeeze, I gotta squeeze.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Those eggs were a lie , Stephen.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
A lie.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
They didn't give me eagle powers.
I felt, stephen, I lie.
They didn't give me eaglepowers.
I fear no nutrients.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
How'd you get up here so quickly?
Secret tunnels.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Do you feel through that, chancho, chancho, help me
up.
I cannot lift you up, you'retoo fat.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Sometimes, when you are a man, you wear stretchy
pants in your room.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's for fun excuse me, sister, I was wondering if I
could join you in your quarterslater and we could eat some
toast and talk about spiritualthings in your quarters later
and we could eat some toast andtalk about spiritual things.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Big kiss, hug, hug, kiss kiss, big kiss Me to kiss
Little hug Little kiss.
Everybody is dancing at theparty.
Rams is number one.
He is not dancing at the party.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Jack Black.
I'm going to be honest I thinkthat is my favorite Jack Black
movie.
Yeah, we are going to bereleasing a review of the
Minecraft movie that has JackBlack in it, but I don't think
it's going to hold up againsthis performance in Nacho Libre.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
No, so I think he is.
In the movie they say that he'shalf European and half Spaniard
.
I believe they called him likeit's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
A Spaniard is from Europe.
Okay, he's half Mexican, halfSpanish.
No, he's European, halfEuropean, half Mexican.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
And they call him a.
Ashley looked it up when wewere watching it.
They referenced it one time,but it's essentially a.
Maybe I'll have to censor thisout.
You tell me, but Gringo, no, noone's going to be offended by
that.
Okay, it's a more friendlyversion of Gringo, and I'm not

(32:58):
sure what it is.
They call them it one time,like they ask them a question
like why did they call you this?
And it starts with a G too, andI can't remember it.
A griot.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
A griot.
It agree, oh agree, oh no, thatcan't be him.
I mean, I mean, I think that'san article of clothing.
Anyways, keep telling me aboutthe?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
yeah, no problem.
So of course, we talked aboutjack black.
It stars jack black, who was atthe time, rising as a comedy
icon thanks to movies likeschool of rock and tenacious d
which I think.
School of Rock is probably upthere, probably my favorite.
That's a really good movie.
Okay, the movie was directed by.

(33:37):
Do you know who?
It was directed by Nacho.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Libre.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
It was directed by Jared Hess.
Do you know what else JaredHess directed?

Speaker 2 (33:48):
The name sounds familiar, but I can't think of.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
So, after watching this and then keeping this in
mind, he directed NapoleonDynamite oh, he's the same guy
who's so he's.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
That's why I know, because when I was looking up
the Minecraft movie, he didMinecraft movie.
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
So it's like it's the exact type of comedy.
You'll mean the same type ofhumor Nacho Libre and Napoleon
Dynamite, that really like weirdindie niche humor to it.
You know what I mean.
Just like Jack Black saying thewackiest things and it's really
funny the whole time, but notlike it's not like slapstick,

(34:28):
it's just verbal slapstick.
It's just verbal slapstickalmost.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, just like visualhumor too, though a little bit,
where you just like why iseverybody running everywhere in
this movie?
Like anytime any charactertakes off, just about they or go
do something, they're allrunning for some reason.
Yeah, yeah, for no reason atall.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
But you know, ignacio right.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Incarnacion.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Incarnacion.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Incarnacion.
I wrote a movie.
I mean sorry, yeah, a movie.
I wrote a song.
Can I sing it for you right now?
Huero, is it?
Huero?
Yeah, I think so.
So we've been sitting herequoting this movie, right, but
what is this movie?
What is the plot of this movie?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It is about a Catholic monk.
He is the cook.
He is the cook at the orphanagethat he works at and it's an
all, it's an all boys orphanage,except for the one none, yes,
yes, and they, uh, they alwaysjust, you know they're, they're

(35:48):
kind of a poor mission, so theydon't have a lot of money to
spend on food, so the food'svery bland and he cares about
the orphans but he just he feelsout of place, he feels like
he's not doing enough or he'sgetting really crappy jobs
Because he's got, like you know,really old chips in swap for
these kids to eat Yep, and Iwant to feed them salads.

(36:12):
And he wants to have a littlebit of glory.
Yeah, I think that's kind ofwhere his motivation is, because
he's looked down upon by theother monks and pastors.
So in all of that, he reallylikes the idea of wrestling.
He's always been a fan ofwrestling, specifically luchador

(36:35):
.
Yeah, luchador, wrestling.
So he comes up with a plan towrestle, get into luchador
matches, and he creates his owncostume with a mask.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I love how in the movie he steals all this stuff
for his costume.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, he just grabs like, snatches stuff around the
monastery to make it, uh, butyeah, and and in that you know,
he starts gaining traction andmaking money and making nice
meals for the the thing is,though, the big thing is that
every time he fights, he loses,but he's still, because he
participated in the fight, makesmoney yeah yeah, so that kind

(37:15):
of wears down on him a littlebit in the movie where he's like
I want to win, yeahyeah yeah, he doesn't want to do
it for the money, he wants, hewants to win.
He wants to win, right, yep.
And then at the end of themovie he fights, stops doing it
to win and does it for theorphans.
That's right, and that's whenhe wins.
Mm-hmm Against the best.
He's the best.

(37:36):
Ramses, ramses, ramses'forearms are the best.
Ramses' shoulder muscles arethe best.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
What a weird scene.
The whole movie has so manyweird, just awkward scenes.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah the wrestler, the bag, the main bag guy he's.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
You know what's funny ?
I, when watching I realizedramsey doesn't say a single word
.
That entire movie really.
Yeah, he has no lines in themovie.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's funny, uh.
But yeah, ramsey's the numberone wrestler.
He's like it's before his fightwith Ignacio and he's got like
he's getting oiled up in like amassage for you know, back and
shoulder massage or whatever byhis coach.
One guy's massaging him up andone guy's just sitting there

(38:25):
just saying different body parts, just hyping him up, just
telling him how he's the best,but just in a monotone voice.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Ramsay's feet is the best.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, oh man dude, I love that movie.
It's so funny.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
How did you find me out here in the wilderness?
I saw you from the village.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Hola, natural Hello.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
So essentially, yeah, yeah, he's wrestling.
It's funny because he heconfesses to the nun that he
went to a wrestling match and sohe has to pray in front of
everybody to, you know, to makeup for his sins, because they
think he went to a wrestlingshow to watch it.
Yeah, but he was competing.
He catches on fire, runs outand while it burns up, his robe

(39:19):
burns up and he's wearing hisluchador outfit underneath his
robe like a superhero like asuperhero and then they realize
that he's uh, he's nacho.
But only the kids really realizeit, but he confesses it to it
anyways.
Yeah, it's true, I am Nacho,and they're just like who?
The luchador Nacho.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
It's so funny the way he's like it is true, You've
probably heard of me.
I am the luchador Nacho.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Oh man, you've probably heard of me, I am the
Lodru to Dawn, not sure, oh man.
So he gets kicked out.
But he promises him.
He says I'm gonna go win this,I'm gonna go fight.
And he's like I'm gonna winthis fight and buy the children
a bus and we're going to go anddo activities and walk around
the park and stuff, stuff likethat.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I was thinking about this cause he doesn't get kicked
out and walk around the parkand stuff, stuff like that.
I was thinking about thisBecause he doesn't get kicked
out.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I wonder if.
No, he does, though, so I paidattention to this this time he
didn't pack up.
When he came back, all hisstuff was packed up for him.
So because he goes, they figureout who he is.
He goes to wrestle, loses thematch and comes back and all his
stuff is packed up.
Yeah, yeah.
And he leaves, goes to thewilderness, and he finds out

(40:35):
later on that his buddy, stephen, runs over the competition,
runs over the foot of thecompetition, because whoever won
that fight was going to wrestleRamsey's.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
And so the guy who beat Nacho got ran over Russell
Ramsey's, yeah.
And so the guy who beat Nachogot ran over.
And so now Nacho could fightRamsey's, because he came in
second place in that fight.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, it is funny, it's such a
funny.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's just, it's you know, it's made by Nickelodeon,
it's a kid's Nickelodeon movie,really.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I've never caught, though it's because he gets
kicked out.
But then after he wins thefight he gets a bus and he comes
back.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
And he's not wearing robes.
He's wearing Like a white, it'slike a blue robe.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
It's the same color because he bought some fancy
clothes.
It's a one-piece suit that hasthe robe upper.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I think it's almost like what he bought.
He turned into a robe becausehe bought his fancy clothes,
yeah, and they turned that intorobe, so it's like did he come
back recreational clothes.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
That's what I'm saying they look expensive.
Yeah, thanks, thank you I meanyes, uh, yeah, I don't think he
was.
I don't know if he was welcomeback or not, but the question is
, how did he get custody of allthe kids?
That's what's up about a fieldtrip.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
They never go into detail, like did he actually—
the nun's with him, right, butmaybe he just bought the bus and
is taking these kids on a trip,but he doesn't oversee them.
She does, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
It doesn't look like they break their vows together
though, no, but they kind ofhint at it too at the same time.
It's just like spoken.
Hey, you know, I would.
I just wanted to let you know Iwould break my vows for you.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, yeah, oh man, good stuff, dude man, I mean, I
was just.
I was watching it and at firstI was like I want to watch it
for the podcast, right for thepod, and by the end of them like
I'm just enjoying watching thismovie, even if it wasn't for
the podcast, I forgot how funnyit is yeah dude, I know, I know
a gypsy man who knows secretpowers he knows how to get

(42:43):
secret powers.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh man, you just go and you eat.
Eat the yolk of the eagle egg.
And that guy he's in the Gypsyman is in John Wick.
He's John Wick 2.
He's the Russian guy.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
At the very beginning .

Speaker 1 (43:02):
It was funny because Asher was like I don't want to
watch this part.
I'm like what's wrong with it?
It was when he throws the cornon the cob through the guy's eye
.
Oh, I forgot that that was inthat movie.
I'm like goodness.
Yeah, dude, it's very graphicfor a kid's movie.
Mm-hmm, it was just so random,because the rest of the movie

(43:26):
isn't that bad.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, it really isn't .
And it's not bloody or anything.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
No, it really is, and it's not like bloody or
anything.
No, it's just like it's a quickcut and there's just a corn cob
in a guy's eye.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
All right, I was trying to think if I'd seen him
in anything else but HectorJimenez.
Hector Jimenez, I think, iswhat it is.
He plays his wrestling partner.
Now I'm blanking on his name,stephen.
Stephen, thank you.
Plays Stephen.
Do you think he's in anythingelse?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
The only other thing that I know him from is Epic
Movie.
He plays the parody version ofMr Tumnus.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, it says he's in Wild Hogs.
That looks like that's prettymuch it.
That would be American.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I know the guy who plays Sorry, not American.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
United States.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
The guy who plays Ramsey.
He died in 2010, I believe.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Really.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Was he a he was actual or was he an actual
wrestler I?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
think he was an actual wrestler.
Okay, his name's like Silver,something, I think, something
Silver.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Let me look at that Ramsey's Caesar Gonzalez Caesar,
sorry Caesar, sorry Caesar,silver King.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
There it is.
I was right, silver something.
There we go.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Caesar Cahueta Gonzalez Baron Was a Mexican
luchador and mascarado.
Mexican luchador and mascarado.
He was known best as SilverKing, but also had an extensive
stint as the third wrestler toportray the Black Tiger

(45:20):
character.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Whoa the Black Tiger character.
I don't know who that is.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Sounds important, though I don't believe in God.
I believe in science.
I'm not listening to you.
You only believe in science.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I love how he's just like and Nasio's train of
thought there is that beingbaptized will instantly have him
believe in God.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Why haven't I been baptized?
I just never got around to it.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Someone stole the chips, did you tell them they
were the chips of the Lord?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I hate them.
What did you say?
I hate the orphans.
Say it to my face.
Say it to him again I hate allthe orphans in the world.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Come on, it's funny because they get into that fight
and they never reconcile thefight.
It's just like they fight.
He gets mad, I think.
He then goes and prays that'swhen he catches on fire, leaves
to the wilderness and then whenhe comes back, goes for the
wrestle, goes for the wrestle,they wrestle together in that
fight, yep, and then he loses,goes to the wilderness.

(46:31):
And they just never reconciledthe fact that he says I hate
orphans.
I think he says I thought youdidn't like orphans at one point
he's like not anymore, notanymore.
I liked him yeah, great movie.
Great movie, great movie Allright, so you want to transition
into our last topic here.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, tyler, this is our final transition of the pod
we are going to go into thecorner.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Step inside if you dare.
Shadows move, mysteries whisperand the unknown awaits.
Welcome to the Corner.
So, on this episode of theCorner, what do you want to talk

(47:32):
about?
I want to, too bad.
We're talking about thechupacabra.
Oh man, oh gosh.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I wanted to talk about shucks hello kitty I want
to talk about the thunderbird oh, the thunderbird.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
we've talked about the Thunderbird, yeah you're
right.
We have.
That was episode insert episodenumber here Azteca do Deca.
So do you know when the firstsighting of the Chupacabra was?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
In the United States or in general.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
In general.
What was the first sightingreported sighting of the
chupacabra.
This surprised me, by the way,1995.
You're looking at it.
I literally just said that itwas 1995.
Yeah, yeah, a woman claimed tosee the creature with gray-green
leathery skin, large red eyes,fangs and a spiky back, walked

(48:29):
upright and hopped like akangaroo.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Okay.
So in this article that I'mreading, though, they say
allegedly that there werereports of El Chupacabra first
popped up in the 1960s in PuertoRico.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
But I guess there was no—.
It's funny because I have 1995and you also have 1995.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah, this says the first sighting.
That's been dated.
But in the 1960s allegedlypeople were seeing the
chupacabra, specifically inPuerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
So I guess no one could verify, but apparently
they could verify in 1995.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
For sure when others are saying oh, I saw it in 1960.
Yeah, but do you have proof?
Nah, yeah, so you know?
Do you know what chupacabratranslates to no?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
what chupacabra translates to no.
Chupra means suck and cabrameans goat is the goat sucker.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Oh, I knew that.
I just heard that.
I figured you did dang it said.
Attack at night leaves smallpuncture, wounds and drains
blood, but no organs, whichmakes it unusual compared to
normal predators.
There you go.
What do you think it is Like?
So I don't believe that it'sreal, right, okay, what do you

(49:56):
think it would be if you know?
If it wasn't real, what do youthink these things, people are?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
seeing would be.
It's hard to say when it'ssomething so specific like if
the animals were mauled.
It could be a variety ofpredators, but the issue is is
that they were like it's likethe blood was sucked out of them
, and these are big animals, soit's like for something to be

(50:24):
able to do that.
It would.
I mean, it would have to besomething big For something to
suck all the blood out of asheep to the point where the
sheep dies.
It would have to be somethingbigger than what we would have
here as bloodsuckers Like itwould be way bigger than
mosquito Mosquitoes or ticksLike those are the only

(50:45):
bloodsuckers that we it'd be waybigger than mosquito.
Mosquitoes or ticks Like thoseare the only bloodsuckers that
we have, right, you know?
I mean you could get into bats,but they don't really do that
to Like we don't have anyblood-sucking bats in the United
.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
States, because they don't really suck blood.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
They like they cut and they kind of lick at the
wound.
They're not really sucking theblood out, they're just whatever
is coming out.
They are, yeah, and that's aspecific kind of bat the vampire
bat, right, vampire bat andit's not in to my knowledge.
It's not in.
I mean, the areas that peopleare seeing are claiming to see
the chupacabra.
So you know, it's if it, if youdon't want to attribute it to
the chupacabra, you got to havesomething else.

(51:30):
You know what I mean?
It's kind of one of those thingswhere it's like, yeah, the
chupacabra may not be real, butwe can't really explain the
phenomenon and all we have arereporting reports from people
saying that they saw this typeof creature, you know.
So it's one of those thingswhere it's like the only
evidence is this and the counterevidence is just an explanation

(51:56):
to explain away the evidence.
So that's the deal, because Imean it's the same like with
other strange phenomenarevolving around, like the
Dogman Phenomena Around Bigfootand skinwalkers and all these
other weird things, that it'slike that can't be real.

(52:17):
But then it's like well, people, this is the evidence that
people are presenting and theonly counter to it is just ways
to explain away the evidencebeing presented.
There's no alternative.
It's just that can't be.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
So do you want to break the illusion?
Sure, this is the scientificexplanation.
I'm ready.
Most likely biologists believethat it was dogs, coyotes or
raccoons with mange, whichthat's what the people were
seeing, and then, coincidentally, livestock died unrelated to

(52:55):
these animals they had withmange, and the deer died of
natural causes but appeareddrained due to the post-mortem
processes.
So essentially, they find them,and they're already kind of
drained of some blood.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Just through the natural process of things?
Yeah, because they said thatupon closer inspection of the
body, there was never atchianand puncture wounds on a lot of
cases oh okay, so that's yourbreaking the illusion
explanation.
Yeah, that's your breaking theillusion explanation.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
No.
It's crazy how all theseanimals with mange are showing
up around livestock that isdying.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Before this, you know , a lot of cryptids got popular.
I wonder how many actual caseswere reported of the chupacabra.
I don't have those numbers, butit's like before you know, it
got heavy and really big in lore, probably due to, like,
television making the creaturemore popular, because I feel

(53:56):
like this is one that I likebesides bigfoot aliens you know
the big ones this is probablyone of the bigger yeah cryptids
that a lot of people know about.
Yeah, I'd say like number fivetype thing you know.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, and that's the thing is.
I think that is because it's sorecent, like there's not a big
historical storyline for it.
You know, like Bigfoot, there'sdocumented stories for hundreds
of years.
You know, aliens it's the samedeal, like people have been
talking about these UFO craftsfor hundreds of years.
You know, aliens it's the samedeal, like people have been
talking about these ufo craftsfor hundreds of years.

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The skinwalkers same deal.
Dogman we talked about dog manone time like right, that's been
around for ages.
And it's the same with satyrs.
You know, it's like all thesedifferent high.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Like human animal hybrid again, it's like it is
these creatures that are allcould be seen something, and
somebody might be drunk,somebody might be high seeing
these things, and they're seeingsomething that might be an
injured animal, right, yeah,something you know.
Oh, they're talkingspecifically for the.

(55:04):
I'm talking about in generalcryptids, oh it, just in general
, like you know, these.
You know, oh, that You'retalking specifically for the
Chupacabra I'm talking about ingeneral cryptids.
Oh, just in general.
Like you know, these people youknow are seeing things.
We only hear.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
The story is what I'm getting at, but we're not
there's a really good chancewe're not getting all the
details surrounding this story.
Well, I wouldn't say that forall cryptids, because there's
too many stories for that to bethe example, like where it's
someone miss saw, because a lotof stories it's multiple people
experience the same thing all atonce.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Sure, but there's always a starting point.
So there's always a point, andthen there's always oh, I saw
that too.
You know what I mean I guess.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
But I mean you're talking about the dogman that
that goes back to, you know,like 500 ad or even further you
know, say older, the more mysticthey are.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
The satyrs is bc.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
You know the skinwalker deal like that's who
knows how old, because it'sthere's no way to really date
Native American people.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
That translates to it's a lie.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Well, but no, I'm kidding.
Okay, I think that I think thatthe scenario you're presenting,
where it's like we're probablynot getting all the details and
there was probably some sort ofweird stuff going on with the
person, I think you could applythat to the chupacabra, because
it's such a new phenomenon andthere is a I mean, there is a

(56:38):
like countable amount of ofstories or sightings or whatever
you know, whereas witheverything else, Like you said,
you have a lot of stories thatare really old and more viable
to being a real thing and otherthings besides just stories.
Right, you know, like there is.

(56:59):
I mean, what do you do when yougo into the woods and you see a
human footprint that's, youknow, 18 inches long or 20
inches long or whatever?
Like what do you do withsomething like that?
That's not a human foot, likethere's no one whose foot is 18
inches long?
Mine's close, what's yours?

Speaker 1 (57:18):
14.
That's your shoe size Mm-hmm.
That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
And then other things like there's dna that is out
there that we can't track to anyknown animal in the database,
so stuff like that yeah sothere's just.
It's just.
There's a bunch of stuff outthere for a bunch of different
things, but the chupacabra, youknow, the only thing that
they've got is just sightings.

(57:44):
There's nothing else to go withit.
There's one lady who said thatshe shot one and she stuffed it,
and that's what she has, and itreally is.
It just looks like a coyotewith mange.
That's all it looks like.
So that's probably what it isis a coyote with mange.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Again, creatures sick in the wild.
Seen around a dead animaldoesn't mean it necessarily
killed it.
Maybe isn't coyotes not hunters, but scavengers.
Coyotes, no they will killanimals.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they will if they
have the ability.
They're opportunists, you'reright.
There we go, there you go.
But yeah, who knows man?
Because I think that was theevidence that was going, for it
was this lady who killed thisthing that they're calling the
chupacabra Is it didn't have theexclusive DNA of a coyote, so

(58:40):
it's not technically a coyote,but who's to say that?
It's not a hybrid of some weirdinbreeding deal?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Right, Like a coyote and a poodle or something you
know.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah, and so of course, a sick coyote and a
poodle will probably give birthto a sick coyote.
A sick coyote poodle choppercopper.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I love how the coyote has to be sick.
If it would mate with a poodle?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
You're sick.
You have lowered your standards.
Coyote Wiley, you're sick.
You stopped chasing after theroadrunner and went after goats
you goat sucker, oh man, butyeah, with the Chupacabra, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I think I'm in that I would be more open to the idea
of explaining away what it is,because it's just, the time has
not been very long and there'snot it seems like there's not a
crazy amount of info and andevidence out there about it,
whereas when we get into theseother things like the mothman

(59:55):
and bigfoot and uh, dogman andall that stuff, like when you
start getting into it, dude,there's so much.
It's ridiculous how, how muchevidence and stories are out
there that it's like, yeah,bigfoot may not be real, but
what do you do with all thisinfo?

(01:00:15):
You know, like, where do youput it?
You can't put it all on.
Oh, it was just a big bear inthe woods.
Oh, they were just seeingthings.
Oh, they were on something andmade it all up.
Like you just can't put it on.
Even if you put all thosetogether as the suggestions,
there's still too much to saythat that's all it is.
You know that's all it is Okay,but yeah, interesting stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
So if you guys see a chupacabra, just know it's a
coyote, so you can pet it, yeah,stuff.
So if you guys see a chupacabra, just know it's a coyote, so
you can pet it.
Yeah, go up and pet it, give ita stick of dynamite and say good
luck, good luck and then runand then run, light it, make
sure you light it and then, whenyou take off away from it, make
sure you paint like somethingon a wall, like a tunnel.
You run through it and then thecoyote will then smash its face
on the wall and this is apainting, yeah, yeah, so.

(01:01:06):
So thank you everybody forjoining us on this episode 34 of
34, 33, 34, 34 of the Saintsthat Serve podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Where we commemorate Cinco de Mayo and Ignatius and
Ignacio and Ignacio.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And the Chupacabra, and the Chupacabra, and the
Chupacabra, and just Not to saythat that has anything to do
with Cinco de Mayo.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Just so we're clear.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
No, it's just we wanted to Themed, themed it a
little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So do you have any closingwords for us besides that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
I would say that we like getting into the corner and
talking about these things thatare weird, right, high
strangeness.
There we go, but it does nothave any effect on our eternal
security in Christ, it's alljust for fun.
It is just for fun, and thereason I'm saying it is because
I have met people that they'vehad a hard time.

(01:02:09):
They get in the conspiracystuff and then they have a hard
time with life in general.
Right, it starts gettingdepressing, and so it's just a
reminder.
Christ has already won the war.
Right, we are in the laborpains of the final day.
So find your confidence inChrist.

(01:02:30):
Know that there is the lightthat is shining in the darkness,
and one day there will be nomore darkness at all.
So you know, perseverance is forthe saints.
Let's serve that surf, and thesaints are called to surf.
So do that like it's okay ifyou're entertained by right,
like movies again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
We watch these movies , we play these video games and
we talk about creatures becauseit's fun to talk about the
unknown yeah yeah, the unknown.
But at the end of the day, wedon't let this get in the way,
and you shouldn't let this getin the way and you shouldn't let
this get in the way of yourfaith and your religion.
Your holy commission, your holycommission.

(01:03:11):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah, we are called to make disciples of all nations
and baptizing them in the HolySpirit and in truth.
And so you know, if you're abeliever, go and make much of
Christ.
If you're a believer, go andmake much of Christ.
And if you're not a believer,please hear the truth that God
sent his only son, who was theonly one capable of being the

(01:03:35):
atoning sacrifice for the sin ofman, and all of your sin was
put on him on that cross and hedied with it and he atoned for
it, and he's calling you toreceive that forgiveness.
It's only found in him.
You cannot earn your way out ofthe judgment of God.
You can only be forgiven of it,and that forgiveness is only

(01:03:56):
found in Jesus Christ.
So believe that and become achild of God.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
So Nacho and Nassius, the Chupacabra and Jesusesus
are in the ring.
Who's winning?
I think it would be jesus.
Exactly that's my point yeah,yeah and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
You know, when he left the match it would be in
the honda.
That's right, because he didnot come in the cord in his own
accord.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Yeah, it's such a stupid joke, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
You know, after the match he probably went back to
his day job as a barista Becausehe bruised.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Christ is Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
And you know what?
He's a really good dancer,because he did not come to be
served, but to serve.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I've seen that joke?
Have you seen that?
But it's on the basketballcourt and he's like playing
basketball and like messing upthe devil on the court.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's reallyfunny, it's awesome the devil.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
It said I've come not to be served, but to serve.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Dude, I love Christian memes.
They're so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
I've seen it several times.
That picture that might end upgoing on the podcast set
Beautiful.
We need it Alright Well anyways.
So thank you again for joiningus.
Christ is Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
And the kingdom is now.
We are the saints that serve.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
It is actually more of an American holiday, more
than anything forMexican-Americans.
Yeah, I know, hispanic-american.
What's the proper term for that?
Yeah, mexican-american.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
If they're from Mexico, then they're
Mexican-American.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Spanish-American?
No, that would be from Spain.
What about Alaskan-American?
No, that would be from Spain.
What about Alaskan?
Alaskan-americans?
Jairus, Alaskans are Canadian,you know that.