Episode 35 - Unpacking One Piece: A Christian Perspective - The Saints That Serve Podcast

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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each
week, your hosts dive into thecrossroads of faith, culture and
the unknown.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.
We are the Saints that Serve.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hey, welcome to the Saints that Serve.
Podcast.
That is the Saints that Servepodcast That's's right, where
each week we bring rivetingcontent that will entertain you
and your family.
This is episode 35 and we got apretty entertaining lineup for
you.
This week we are going to bediving into the mysteries of

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piracy, piracy.
And we're not talking aboutmovies or music, no Well kind of
in the cinematic universe, orrealm, not universe, realm of
cinema Kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
We personally, are not stealing things from the
internet.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Though pirates do steal things.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Some may say they practice piracy of the great
seas of the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
But the saint boys do not do that, we do not Anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
We're just going to talk about it.
Anyways, if you need prayer, wewant to pray for you.
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Not the which I think I messedup last week, it's fine, it's
just SaintsThatServe at gmailcom.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's right.
One day that's going to comeback to bite us.
But you know what?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I already feel the teeth marks.
That's weird, because nothing'sbit us yet.
Call it a hypersensation,hypersensitivity, we'll call it
a spiritual foreknowledge.
Anyways, my name's Johnny, andwith me is my co-host, jairus,
and we are the St Boaz, st Boaz,st Boaz, you know, I was

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thinking about it today in thecar you drive.
I do actually surprisingly.
Today in the car Do you drive?
I do actually surprisingly.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
What's your driver's license number?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
It is.
No, I don't know, Mine's two,two, yeah, number two.
I'm the second driver in theentire country.
No, I was thinking about it andI don't think people like, if
you haven't listened to theintro, you see the name as
saints that serve and then youcome and you listen to our

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content and we talk about movies, games and weird creatures and
people are like how, what doesthis have to do with serving and
being it or being a saint?
So I just wanted to just bringit back up kind of at.
You know we're in the mid-30splus bonus content.
That's right.
We're exactly middle of the 30s, exactly At episode 35, we're

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right in the middle.
But just so you guys know, wedo other things outside of the
podcast that we try to bringglory to the Lord to, but the
podcast's focus is to bringglory to the Lord to.
But the podcast's focus is tobring Christian entertainment to
people.
We enjoy talking about movies,we enjoy talking about video
games and board games and musicand all things pop culture, but

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there's no one in that sphere ofentertainment that is bringing
glory to the Lord, and so wewant to be those guys.
We want to be able to talkabout piracy, but then bring it
back around and say, okay, sohow can we build up the kingdom
of God in this?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
space, right?
So yeah, that was the initialthought on.
I brought it to you many moonsago at this point, many moons
how I personally was gettingvery frustrated trying to find
something in the entertainmentside of podcasts, because I like

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video games, I like anime, Ilike movies, but typically
they're talking about the topicsthat I want to hear about, but
they bring a lot of theirpersonal beliefs into it and it
opposes my personal beliefs.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, and I feel that way too when we talk about if I
listen to anything that has todo with board games or video
games or movies like there'sjust not a real, it's very
worldly and it's because a lotof that content is world focused
and not Christian focused.
But there is a turn.
I see a change happeningbecause of things like Angel

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Studios.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Which, if you haven't listened to our past episode,
we talk about Angel Studios.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
We do talk about angel studios, um, and we're not
going to tell you the episodebecause we want you to go find
it for yourself.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
And also we don't remember it.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So uh, but yeah, there there's.
I see a change coming.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I see Christian content that is genuinely
entertaining for other peoplepopping up and also on the other
side of that, even if it isn'tChristian content, it is
becoming less and less focusedon things that oppose God.
I've noticed as well.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, for a little while there it was
getting super, even in kids'entertainment, getting super
duper.
Sexuality focused, genderidentity, gender identity, all
that nonsense, nonsense, yeah,and it was across the board and
it was like I feel like I'mgoing, I feel like I'm watching

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the same movie at every singlething I go to.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
And every single one of those you just want to leave.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, and so it feels like it's starting to turn
around a little bit.
They're realizing that thatstuff doesn't really sell in the
general world.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So a quick little story here.
So Marvel, marvel movies havein the past, especially last
year, a couple of years, havebeen pretty focused on those
kind of things Woke things, wokethings.
And this year, surprisingly,they seem to be getting back

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away from that.
They're backing off, backing up, because I think they're
realizing that the loudest voiceis the people who are saying we
want to see these things inthese movies.
We want to see these things,and it's not even their target
audience.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so like Captain America,brave New World.

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It wasn't the best movie, butthere was nothing woke in it.
Yeah, yeah, you know what I meanLike it was poor.
I told Ashley, my wife if youdon't know my wife that it was
an entertaining enough movie andif they move forward, yeah,

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with this being a starting point, it is actually looking fairly
decent for Marvel.
And so we went and sawThunderbolts and it's the same
thing.
Yeah, there's nothing woke init and it's actually a really
good movie.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
There you go.
You heard it Just go pro-sleep,not pro-woke.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's right.
We all want to be asleep,that's right.
Don't wake me up Before you go.
Go, don't wake me up before yougo.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Go anyways.
Who's that darula?
Was that jason?
I don't know don't wake me up.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Don't wake me up I'm pretty sure it's true.
Mine was uh, who did that?
Don't wake me, wake me upbefore you go go.
Yeah, whatever, whoever didthat, whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, I don't actually remember who that is
either.
Anyways, are you ready to diginto some piracy in the media?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
format yeah, I'm ready to set sail on this Nice,
nice format yeah, I'm ready toset sail on this.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Nice, nice, all right .
So today we're taking a veryspecific route and talking about
the one piece tv series onnetflix, very specifically that
very specifically, the liveaction.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
So the reason why we want to very specifically talk
about the live action is becausehow easily accessible it is if
you have netflix.
If you well, if you havenetflix, I'm talking about
getting into watching it.
Oh yeah, it's a lot easier towatch eight one hour episodes
than the like what 100 episodesthey covered in the anime yeah,

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I'm looking back on this andthinking about how many episodes
I watched in the anime and I'mlike it's so much I shouldn't
have watched how many I watchedanyways.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Uh, the store okay.
At the core of it though,regardless, because it is
daunting.
If you the anime version, thereis a insane amount, I think, at
this point.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
The one piece anime is currently around 1200
episodes yeah, and they're 20minutes a piece.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
So you know it, it adds up, but the story inside of
it is pretty entertaining andthe character development is is
good, it's really good.
So you know, they took thatexisting because it's a manga
and then they turned it into ananime and now Netflix is doing a

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live action version, butthey're condensing it.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yes, so what they covered, and so we'll be using
the term arcs a lot.
So if you don't know what thatis, it's essentially a story
being told where they're at avery specific location.
It's one story arc, yep, butyou can't really call it seasons
, because a lot of sometimesbecause of how long and drawn

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out a lot of the stuff is in theanime.
A story arc could coverhundreds of episodes, be covered
within 100 episodes.
Yeah, I think one of the newerarcs is like 300 episodes unreal
.
So what the netflix show didwas is they took one arc and
purposefully made it twoepisodes, and so they really

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condensed it.
Anime is really famous.
When they make live actionadaptations of anime, they are
trash Like Street Fighter Name,just any of them.
This is actually one of the, ifnot the first one of the only
anime adaptations that isuniversally beloved, yep.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
So Like Avatar Last Air, universally beloved Yep.
So Like Avatar Last Airbender?
No, both times they messed itup so bad both times.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, two chances, so getting into it.
What is the story of One Piece?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, so there's actually a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
What is the generalized?
Yeah, because one piece is sodense in its lore so I
personally watched it.
Uh, condensed myself.
Yes, there is a fan edit thatcut down all of the fluff and
the extra and all the fillerthat is in yeah the one Piece
anime and cut it down to justthe important stuff and it cuts

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out about overall four 500episodes worth of time.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's called One Piece .
If anybody wants to look it up,it's just a condensed, really
well done, condensed version ofOne Piece.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
And that's for the anime, and that's for the anime.
Yes, really well done.
Condensed version of one piece,and that's for the anime, and
that's for the anime.
Yes, but anyways, yeah.
So the idea is it's this, it'sthis world that has it's most, I
mean, like ours, it's mostlywater.
The best way to explain it isit's like an insane amount of
islands in four different oceans, and then there's one strip of

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land that kind of wraps theglobe, and then that's another
ocean, that's another strip thatkind of divides everything.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
So the divide is the Grand Line and the main line
circling.
The other one is the Red Line,correct?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, so there's four oceans I think they just call
them the different blues, andthen there's the Grand Line,
which is a small ocean that cutsthrough all of them and goes in
a circle around the globe.
And then there's anintersecting line that goes that
kind of makes like a cross, andit's called the Red Line.
It's a landmass that loopsaround as well.

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So I put all that out there foreveryone to understand that the
world is mostly water andeveryone's traveling around on
boats.
And the intro to the series isthere's already a bunch of lore
and history that's happening,but we're entering in at a point
that's called the Grand PirateEra, which was started by a

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notorious pirate that was calledthe king of the pirates.
He had a massive treasure thathe hid and he that is called the
, that is called the one piece,wow and he challenges everybody
to go out and find it and at themoment of his execution at the
moment of his execution and Atthe moment of his execution, and

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so the One Piece is following aspecific group of characters
who are led by a guy namedMonkey D, luffy Mm-hmm, and
Luffy is the main character.
And he's a very charismatic,always positive, no-nonsense

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kind of guy, like well, let'sjust do it.
No nonsense, he's all nonsense,well, I mean.
But I mean like he doesn't slowdown to think things through.
It's either just yes or no withhim.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
He is our happy-go-lucky, spry main
character.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah so, but it's about him.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
And the series pretty much starts off with him saying
I am now going to go on mypirate adventure.
To go look for the One PieceI'm going to, yeah, and his
dream, sorry.
And to become the king of thepirates, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
So there's an understanding by everyone in the
world that whoever finds theone piece becomes the next king
of the pirates, and soeveryone's looking for this
notorious treasure or infamoustreasure, I should say.
And so Monkey D Luffy decidesthat he's going to be the king
of the pirates, so he's out tolook for the treasure for the

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one piece.
He's going to be the king ofthe pirates, so he's out to look
for the treasure for the onepiece, and along the way he
meets different individuals thatalso have dreams that are grand
and outrageous.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Most of them very young also.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, I think our oldest character is Robin, who
we won't even really get intostory-wise.
No, or is it Frankie?
The oldest one would be Frankie.
Frankieie then?
No, no, it would be um it wouldbe, uh, is it jimba?
No, what's his name?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
oh, brooke, yeah, brooke yeah brooke's,
technically the oldest right,but we're, we're, we named.
Like it's way too far, likethere's so many pirate crew
members on there that we won'teven touch on or see.
Like Frankie doesn't show upuntil like episode 400 something
, yeah, yeah.

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So it's like and that's what'sgreat, it's like you'll run into
these characters and they'lljust and yeah, we're going to be
part of the crew, now that kindof thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, and yeah, we're going to be part of the crew,
now that kind of thing, you know.
Yeah, so, but each individualhe comes across, they have this
crazy dream and Luffy believesin the dream and believes in
them Because they aspire tosomething, because they, yeah,
and so he kind of like championsthem and like he's like, hey,
like, come on, join my crew.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Let's do it and a lot of times a he's not asking.
He's saying come on, you're mycrew member now yeah and um.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
So in the live action adaptation before we get into
that, something that's veryimportant to go over is what the
devil fruit is oh, okay, so inthis, because that is a huge
plot point to the show, yeah,yeah, in this show there, or in
this universe, there is thesethings called devil fruits and

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translated from japanese, so notthe literal satan fruits.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
No, it's more of like a.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
The reason why they call it devil fruit is because
it's more of a curse than a giftthat's the idea, because anyone
who eats the fruit, they'rethey're given an ability that is
not human right, but they canno longer swim in the water.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
They automatically sink in a world full of water,
they just lose, instantly loseall consciousness, essentially,
and just can't do anything whenthey're in water yep, yeah,
there was a.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
There was an episode where luffy fell into the ocean
and a couple of people startedfreaking out and two people
jumped in to save him and bothof them were devil fruit, so
they both started sinking Rightand they get them all on the
boat.
And one of the characters waslike next time when you want to
go save someone, let someoneelse do it.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Because wasn't it?
I know what you're talkingabout.
Who was it that jumped in afterhim?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
It was Brooke and Chopper.
They both have devil fruitpower.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
they both know they can't swim, and it's always
funny but they're just like, oh,we're gonna save luffy, and
they jump in and sink so it'salways funny because like the
ivory fruit is like the sameword twice and that's their what
describes what power they'regoing to get.
So Luffy eats the gum gum fruitand he becomes a rubber man.

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So the best way to explain itis he's Mr Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's not quite the same thing, but he's Mr
Fantastic, super duper, stretchy, mm-hmm, yeah, so getting back
onto it.
So the beginning of it, firstcouple episodes, it's Luffy
setting off.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
And he meets a young boy named Kobe Cody.
Kobe, kobe.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, yeah, who also has a dream?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Mm-hmm.
Which that's important is hewants to become part of the
Marines, yep, and the Marinesare obviously the police
opposing piracy.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, they are the military facet of the government
, which is the world government.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Right, okay, so we're going to be talking about a lot
of stuff.
It's just, it's insane how deepthe lore is.
Yeah, where I stopped watchingthe anime.
No, I haven't got back ontowatching it, it's been a while.
Is there's so much in hinted atlore?
And it's still technicallyearly on, early on in the show,
like they hint at pirate lords,they hint at like ancient

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treasure that everybody's tryingto hide.
Yeah, like this, all this likehistory of like.
Like there's like an entirelike portion of history that's
just no one knows what happenedin a hundred years of history
that's missing and there's just,like at the face of the show it
is looks like a children's showyeah it's really not it's not.
It's so deep in this lore it'sinsane.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, and just so we're clear, the anime is
definitely not a children's show.
Mm-hmm.
There is blood, there islanguage and there is loot stuff
.
It's not as bad at thebeginning like earlier on, but
as you progress I mean we talkedabout this earlier I had to
stop watching somewhere aroundthe.

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Well, I said I made it toMarineford Arc, which I'm not
that far.
No, but really I should havestopped like two arcs before.
But I kept on going saying like, oh, it'll get better.
Oh, this is just a one-off,we'll get through all this stuff
and it yeah.
So it got a little too much forme personally and my personal

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convictions, but I cannot denythe story is good.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, it's wild for me to see you say what I
consider one of the very mostanime animes and you, on your
own, went out and watched itbecause of the Netflix show.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, so just to be clear, the reason I started
watching the anime is because Ireally liked the live action
adaptation that Netflix didMm-hmm.
So yeah, it's good, it's good,it's good it's good, it's good.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
But so do you want to kind of get into that and just
kind of explain the differentarcs and the characters we meet,
just kind of get into the theshow yeah, let's do it.
So it starts with, uh, theromance dawn arc right, which is
the uh, the meeting of luffyyep, and that's when he meets
kobe yep, and then he also runsinto.

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I don't remember her name, butshe's the overweight, oh
overweight, the really fat womanoh yeah, I can't remember her
name yeah, which is wild becauseshe comes back later and she's
not fat anymore.
Weird because she well, she atea devil fruit that made her
skinny.
It was called the smooth,smooth fruit.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
So you kind of go through that, and that was
really short.
I think a lot of stuff happensin the first episode of the
Netflix show that kind of coversa bunch of different arcs, yeah
, so Luffy— or not arcs, butplot points.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, luffy sneaks aboard this ship ship and the
captain is this overweightpirate lady that we can't
remember her name.
But kobe is on the ship as acabin boy, but he doesn't want
to be on the ship, he was forcedto be there, he was pressured
to be there.
His desire is to become amarine.
And so he meets luffy andluffy's like well, just go for

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it, that's your dream, just doit.
And then he beats up oneverybody on the ship to get off
the ship.
Luffy does, luffy does.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
And then brings Kobe with him and takes Kobe with him
, and from there they go to theclosest Marine fort and there
they find Zorro A man, yeah,zorro Tied up at a post and it's
Zorro, one of my favoritecharacters, runanora, zorro
Mm-hmm.

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And so they free him, and theMarine captain that's staying at
that fort is actually kind of atyrant, yep.
And they defeat him.
He gets arrested, and Kobe andthe Marine captain's son, el Gop
oh no, geez, el Hippo, orsomething like that, mel Hippo.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I feel like it's not El, it's like a Gippo, or-.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, something like that, a Gippo or so, his son
being a spoiled brat kind oftrying to help his father.
At the end of it, him and Kobejoin another marine ship to
become better marines and Zorroleaves, and I guess this is
where it's a little weird.

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El Meppo, el Meppo.
Yeah, so we also run into onthe Netflix show which is this
Is Not the Case, if I'm notmistaken.
Maybe I'm remembering it poorly, but they also run into a woman
named nami who is a thief, theat the fort, yeah, at the port,
and so luffy convinces zoro andnami to join his pirate crew yes

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, like they, they commit to it.
But it's clear that nami hasulterior motives which nami is
kind of for, at least for thefirst season of the net of the
live action, is kind of the mainfocal point of the overall
overall story that we're lookingat in these episodes.

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Yeah, so she is a uh, she's athief.
She is a thief trying to reallysteal money and maps, correct,
and so they travel on to youknow, they join together and
they travel to Orange Town wherethey meet the liar, the liar.
So that is Usopp.

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Yes, yeah, it is Usopp.
Yes, yeah, it's Usopp.
He's a long-nosed sniper, buthe likes to use it as a sniper A
slingshot, a slingshot, sniper.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Which throws me off every time, Mm-hmm.
But you know, to each his own.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
That's fine, mm-hmm.
And we kind of skipped overLuffy's past with Red Hair
Shanks.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, a little bit, but I mean there's not a whole
lot in there besides that.
He really looked up to red hairshanks as a role model and you
know red hair shanks gave him ahat and he's like, hey, hold on
to this.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, that's important because he says it's a
straw hat and he's like takecare of my hat and luffy.
That's like his most prizedpossession is this straw hat
straw hat.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
So, and it's so much so that the entire pirate group
is known as the straw hatpirates because of his hat,
right, so it's so iconic.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
so nonsense goes down and usopp joins the crew.
But they don't have a pirateship.
No, but Usopp.
There's a girl in the town thatUsopp always goes to and tells
these grand stories to, butthey're always lies, yeah,
always, always lies.
And so there's a butler in herhouse who plans on killing her,

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the girl.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
So that he can inherit her fortune correct and
like it's kind of revealed thathe was poisoning her slowly and
making her sick and all thisstuff yeah and so, finally, when
usopp learns the truth aboutthis guy and goes to try to tell
this truth about this butler,no one believes him because he's
a liar.
Is?
He's literally the boy whocried wolf embodied in this

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anime?
Yeah, that he was taking his,because it's revealed that he's
a actually a secretly a pirateand he was embedded in here to
try to get this fortune fromthis girl.
The butler was the butler wasnot usopp, not usopp.
So he has his pirate crewwaiting and they're going to
storm the, the island and it'ssuch a great scene of Usopp and

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Nami and Zoro and Luffy alldefending the island.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, but that's in the anime.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
In the live action.
Oddly enough, this was probablymy only complaint is how it
kind of turned into a horrormovie and they were chasing them
like individuals a fewindividuals inside the mansion
at night yeah, yeah, totallydifferent from how it went down
in the anime, whereas, like, inthe middle of the day, there's

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this entire pirate crew that'sraiding the island.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know, totally different but still pretty
entertaining.
But they, they end up defeatinghim and out of a gesture of
appreciation, which, again, thisis important.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, the girl gifts them with a ship the Going Mary.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
The Going Mary which has a sheep's head at the front
of it.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
All because another one of her butler type dudes
wears a sheep's hat.
So his name is Mary and theyname it.
His name is mary and they nameit after him for some reason.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, I believe that it he's like.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
He's not a butler, he's kind of like an accountant
for the family he handles thefamily's money right, and it's
crazy because in the live actionanother weird thing they they
kill him off, yeah, like justfor some reason, like very
quickly, they just kill him off,yeah, and but the entire ship
is named after this minorcharacter.

(28:52):
Yeah, yeah, so whatever.
You know, so they leave thisisland and then they go to
probably one of the cooler arcsin here, which is where they go
to probably one of the coolerarcs in here, which is where
they go to Beratier, theBeratier.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, yeah, which is a restaurant ship.
It's a ship that's a restaurantthat floats around and it's
home to a bunch of misfit cooksand chefs who like to fight and
cook Mm-hmm, who like to fightand cook and their head chef is
a former pirate captain whomastered the art of the kick.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Because they don't want to damage their hands,
because they use their hands tocook.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
A chef's hands are sacred and reserved for
preparation of food Right, andso they can't use them to fight
with, so they got to use theirfeet, is the understanding.
So, anyways, so he's known, asI don't remember what his name
is, but he's known for hisfighting style, his unique feet.

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Only it's Chef Zef.
Chef Zef, but he has a youngman who's a sous chef on his
restaurant.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
His name is Sanjay Sanjay.
Sanji Sanji, and he is alwayssmoking a cigarette Always,
unless you're watching the fourkids version of One Piece.
He has a lollipop in his mouth.
I didn't know that there wasthe four kids version of one
piece.
He's has a lollipop in hismouth.
I didn't know that there was afour kids version, so we can get
into this.
It's one of the worstadaptations of one piece where,

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like, I don't know how far theygot into it, but they heavily,
heavily edited things out likethe marines who carried like
rifles have water guns andcharacters who are smoking have
lollipops in their mouths.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't know, I kind of want to watch this one now.
Yeah, that sounds like my speed.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
There you go.
It's that kind of stuff.
They take out a lot of weirdstuff, yeah, the adult stuff.
When somebody gets punched inthe normal anime you know they
just get hit, and in the fourkids dub it shows the word pal
on the screen.
I love it.
There you go.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm all about it, oh man.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
But yeah.
So Sanji has another one ofthose crazy dreams.
He wants to find.
What is it called?
The all blue, the all blue blue, where all four oceans meet at
one point and they and that'swhere where you essentially you
can, as a chef and a fishermancan find all of the different
fish in one place in the world,all the different delicacies.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yep, uh, and that's also.
At that point is when zoro'sdream is revealed he wants to
become the greatest swordsman.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Mm-hmm.
And ironically, who shows up onthe boat?
At the same time he reveals hisdream, the greatest swordsman,
uh, hawkeye, me hawk hawkeye, mehawk which this was very dumbed
down in the live action, yeahwhere they had don craig.
Yeah, he didn't even show up.

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So, ironically, though theyshow me hawk in the live action,
they show me hawk killing doncraig.
Oh yeah, I forgot that For likea split second and then Mihawk
goes to Baratie.
Yeah yeah.
But in the anime Mihawk shows up.
They have an altercation withMihawk.
Mihawk leaves.
Then Don Craig shows up to tryto take over the boat.

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It's a floating boat,Restaurant, Restaurant and
trying to take it over becauseall of their crewmen are
starving.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
They're starving and their boat is about to sink.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Follow the book, yeah .

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, so they're trying to take over the
restaurant to eat all the foodand commandeer the ship.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
But their big thing on the ship is because of
Sanji's backstory with Chef Zef.
Yeah, is that they will feedanybody who's hungry because of
things that they went through.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Which is like one of the saddest to me.
One of the saddest moments inthe show is where Sanji has a
young kid.
Like they're stranded on theisland and like Sanji eats all
his food and thinks that ChefZef has all this food for
himself.
He's like, well, I'm just goingto go kill Chef Zef and take
all his food.

(33:24):
Yeah, and it's revealed thatSanji, they draw out the food
for like a hundred days and heruns out of food on the
hundredth day.
Yeah, and he goes to go stealZef's food and it's revealed
that zeff never had any food atall.
Yeah, and he cut off his legand ate it.
And that's how he survived,because he gave the young boy

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all the food yeah, yepheart-wrenching, so that was,
like this, really nice moment.
That's why sanji stayed withzeff and learned how to be a
chef, so that people can nolonger go hungry.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yep, and apparently he's a pretty good chef he is a
very good chef.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
So there you go.
Except, he's a bit of alecherous man.
I don't know what that means.
What is it, womanizer?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Oh, yes, yes, I guess you could say aspiring, because
it doesn't really work out forhim a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
No, he's all like anytime he sees a pretty lady he
has to like go after her.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, he becomes mush , he like becomes a slave, he's
like I'll do anything you wantme to do.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Sick.
So that arc goes through.
You know, they fight.
They fight in the okay.
This is what's weird, yeah,they fight in the okay, this is
what's weird, yeah.
So just to tie in the next arc,in the live action the fishmen
show up, which doesn't happen inthe anime.
Wait, they show up at theBaratie, yeah, in the live

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action.
Oh, and then Nami goes withthem because it's revealed that
Nami is actually part of thisgang, yeah, she's a part of the
Arlong pirates, Mm-hmm.
And so she goes with them.
And then they, Luffy and thegang, go after her because you

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know, she's one of us kind ofthing.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Which happens a lot, I feel like in the show.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, people are like I don't want anything to do
with you, I'm leaving, and theyleave the crew, crew.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
And then luffy's like no, no, no, you're not, no,
they they actually want to behere, so we need to go help them
out, right?
So, and that you know the big,you know.
Finale of that is they go toarlong park, which is another
island.
Yeah, and it's revealed thatArlong essentially took over
this island.
He's a fish man, yeah, whotakes over this island, and is
you know.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Which, for people who need to know, they are a race
of individuals.
They're a hybrid, half fish,half men and they're from a
place called Fishman Island,where it's also the home of
mermaids.
So mermaids and fishmen live onFishman Island.
Correct and Arlong and his creware all fishmen.

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So they're all different kindsof fish.
Men, they're humanoids and someone of them is an octopus.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
You know, some of them have shark features, some
of them have swordfish features,just different things, but nami
throws her hat in with themit's because when they came into
and took over the island, namiand her sister adopted sister
were being, were adopted by thiswoman whose name is man I I

(36:37):
can't remember it, it's not onmy notes either, but it's.
You know.
Nami's mother, adopted motherEssentially they were having you
know Arlong would come alongand say, you know, came and said
this is the price you have topay per head or I'll kill you.
And Nami's mom said here's allthe money I have, bellamere,

(36:58):
bellamere, bellamere, yes.
Essentially says this money isfor my two daughters and this is
all I have.
And they kill her.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
And to try to get money.
Nami goes and joins Arlong'spirates, trying to protect her
family and to earn enough moneyto buy the island and the
island's freedom.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, to buy back the island from Arlong.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Who just came in and took it over, yeah, and so
having some of the best moments,I think, in that arc.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, and that's where it's discovered that
Nami's dream is to make a map ofthe entire world.
So she's a navigator and she'sfascinated with maps and map
making, and so Luffy wants herto be his navigator, and when
she finally joins the crew, it'sto be the navigator to make a

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map of the world Right.
One large map, accurate map.
One large, accurate map,including every island on the
Grand Line and in the otherocean.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
So another major point that we kind of skimmed
over is that the Grand Line issome of the most dangerous like
getting from one island toanother is almost impossible
type situation.
Because you have to have aspecial like compass and all
this stuff and a lot of people,it's just impossible almost to

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go from one place to another inthe Grand Line.
And they're trying to gothrough the whole Grand Line and
map it out is what Nami wantsto do.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, yeah, on their quest to find the One Piece, the
One.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Piece.
So yeah, they go in.
And you know, luffy goes in andjust beats the ever-loving snot
out of Arlong and it's such agood fight.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, it is good, usopp gets into a fight and
actually wins, actually wins,and Zoro and Sanji I can't
remember in the live action ifthey actually fight.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
They just took on where, us, where.
So our usopp runs off, yeah,and one chases after him and he
beats the one.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, and sanji and zoro beat like a hundred of them
, yeah yeah, which is likethat's the normal for the show,
reoccurring all the time.
It's reoccurring all the time.
It's luffy, sanji and zoro areall the heavy hitters who go in

(39:25):
and do mass damage, and thennami and usopp are just kind of
there.
They're kind of there and theyeven like I mean, they even
point it out in the show they'relike we're not the big tough
ones, like we're the survivalone, we're the cute survival
ones.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
You guys do usopp is always like lying, saying he's
the captain.
You know that kind of stuff.
Yeah, and it's sad because theydon't show it in the season one
, but usopp ends up having anincredible redemption story arc
to a degree with him on Water 7.

(40:00):
Oh yeah, but that's like muchlater.
That's going to end up beingprobably the equivalent of
season three or four if they endup going that far with the live
action.
Yeah, because they do so.
They only do that much on theNetflix live action After Arlong
.
That's the end of it.
That's all the content they haveyeah and it's just so much more

(40:23):
like they barely for one season, they barely covered anything
in one season.
They haven't even made it intothe grand line yet yeah, in this
, most of the stories happeningin the grand line, right, and in
this they haven't even made itto the grand line.
Yeah, uh, I think I kind of didsome math in my head with the
story arcs and whatnot.
Yeah, it would probably take 15seasons for them to catch up to

(40:45):
where they're at in the anime.
Oh, really, yeah, it's, it's alot.
Yeah, I don't think they'llever get that far, but they have
enough content, enough sourcematerial to do it.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, and so we talked about character
development.
That's the enjoy, I think, thepart that I enjoy in the series,
I mean in the anime, becausethe live action we only have one
season.
But in the anime, as the storyprogresses and as they get
further, and with each arc thatthey go to, with each arc, they

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meet an impossible villain forwhere they're at and it forces
them to go the next step towhere they get, to the point to
where they're.
So all of them, including usoppand nami, they're all so
overpowered that to the averageperson now, they are way above
them yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
It's really well written in the way that even the
weakest of the characters havedevelopment and become
incredibly strong yeah, and I, Ithink that uh, what is the name
of his character, like who hedisguises himself as, because he
was too proud of himself toapologize.
Oh, sniper King, sniper King.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, usopp creates a character so that he can still
hang out with his friends andnot because he gets upset and
quits the pirates for a littlebit.
He leaves the pirates in theWater 7 arc because of a
disagreement, a big disagreement.
But he wants to help.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
So he creates a character called sniper king and
wears a wears a mask it's sofunny because I saw uh, I saw a
meme that was just like I don'tsee usopp, all I see is sniper
king.
Because the joke is it'sobviously usopp and everybody
knows it's usopp, but luffy inanime.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
He's got an outrageously long nose and in
that phase when he's pretendingto be Sniper King, he cuts a
hole in the mask so that hisnose will fit through it, so he
can wear it.
So it's very obviously Usopp,but Chopper and Luffy are fully
convinced that it's usopp'sfriend, sniper king yeah, which

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sniper king just says hey, usoppasked me to come help you, yeah
and they're like oh cool ohcool, thanks that.
Uh.
Yeah, everyone else on the crewis like it's obvious it's
obvious why don't you justapologize.
Well, they all say to each otherjust let let him have this,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
The irony of it is is the guy in the did you watch it
sub or dub?
Did you watch it English orJapanese?
When you watched the animeEnglish?
Okay, the guy who voices Usopp,who is kind of considered as,
like, the useless character he'sreally not, but he's kind of
considered that he also voicesKrillin in Dragon Ball Z, who's

(43:37):
also considered the uselesscharacter who always dies.
That's funny.
So this guy, he's just like hehas that very distinct voice.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
And another fun fact is the guy who voices Zoro
voices All Might, essentiallySuperman in my Hero Academia.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
So it's like it's funny how these actors who do
these voices usually tend to dosimilar characters.
Well, they got the voice for it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I went to AWA one year and theyhad Christopher Sabat there,
the guy who voices Zorro.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Oh cool.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah and All Might.
He's like one of the big heavyhitters in the anime dub like
career path, whatever you wantto call it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
That's pretty neat.
That's pretty neat.
It's pretty neat.
Well, but I mean, you know,we've thrown a bunch of
information out.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I know it ended up us just nerding out over this
anime because this, this animeis old.
I mean you have to be when youhave 1200 episodes.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, the it started airing the.
The anime started airing in1997 I believe it's 97.
Yes, but he's the oda thecreator.
He started the manga beforethat, but when he started all of
this, he had the direction thathe wanted to go before he
started.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, I believe he said he knew where he wanted it
to end when he started writingit.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, he had it outlined.
It's just he keeps on addingthings as they go.
That's why it's drawn out solong is because he keeps on
adding stuff to the overallstory, stuff to the overall

(45:24):
story, but I okay.
So side note about oda, becauseI don't know if this is legit,
but if it is, it's sad to me.
Supposedly he only sleeps likethree to four hours a night and
he only sees his family once aweek because Because he's always
working on his he's alwaysworking on his manga for the one
piece.
I'm sorry, but it's not worthit, it's too much.

(45:45):
Yeah, he's so devoted to thismanga that he's made this story
that he devotes most of his lifeto it, and he's got a family
and he only sees them once aweek.
He's got to spend the rest ofthe time working on this.
So if that's true, I'm like man, that's not cool, it's not

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worth it.
It's not worth it.
You can't create the greateststory and neglect your family.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I have watched videos on the cultural, like working,
life of Japanese people.
Yeah, and that's true, it'sthat they work all day.
They work themselves to deathenough to get home, to eat
something, to go to bed, to getup and keep doing it again for
like a couple hours.
It's like the culture is workhard until you die, kind of

(46:34):
feeling to me.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
And you wonder why there's a population decrease in
the country.
Everyone's so obsessed withworking that they're not they're
not having kids and raisingfamilies.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
So something about one piece, right?
Yeah, do you have anything elseto say?
I feel like I interrupt youthere.
I'm sorry.
No, no, okay, good, so thething about one piece is it's
considered one of the greatestanime of all time.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, apparently it's sold the most mangas.
It has sold the most copies inJapan.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
And I think it's like number two for most copies sold
overall in the world.
I think Demon Slayer is numberone, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I think that.
No, the thing I was looking atwas like in the world is,
superman has sold the most well,not comics, manga oh, in manga,
demon slayers number one.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
But in in comics or that you know media.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
So if you don't know what manga is, mama, manga is
essentially japanese comics yeah, but it but it's really up
there, it's really big in Japan,in the world, I mean, yeah, in
the world.
It is quite large, which, whenI got into this, I did not
realize that it was as big as itis until I started watching it

(47:55):
and I was like there's a lot,there's a lot to this.
Huh Okay, and I was likethere's a lot, there's a lot to
this.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Huh, okay, so I was wrong.
So One Piece is the highestselling manga, don't doubt,
dragon Ball is up there, don'tyou doubt me?
Demon Slayer is on that list,though, okay.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
What is your favorite anime?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Oh man.
So the problem, problem, notproblem.
But the thing about anime isthere's so much out there that
it's hard to re-watch, somethinglike where people say, oh, the
office is my favorite and theyre-watch it.
I'm always constantly watchingsomething new yeah but what's?

(48:37):
your nostalgic anime dragon ballz.
There we go.
I was about to say dragon ballz is probably one of my favorite
.
Yeah, yeah, one piece.
It one piece was something Ididn't get into until fairly
recently.
Yeah, dragon ball z I'vewatched since I was.
That's not true, because you.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I remember as weird that I remember this, but I
remember seeing a picture of youat was it MomoCon AWA, awa,
dressed up as Luffy.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
So I was in my higher like 25, 26, 20s then, yes,
that was around when I got intowatching One Piece.
Oh, okay, within the last 10years where Dragon Ball Z I've
been watching since I was five,gotcha.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I'm old guys and me.
I never really watched an animeuntil.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
One Punch man right Was your first one.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Well, yeah, yeah, first Japanese one, because
technically I think Avatar is ananime, it's just an American
one.
American anime.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
We can argue about this later.
Okay, I don't consider Avataran anime.
We can argue about this later.
Okay, I don't consider Avataran anime.
Okay, it's a cartoon, sorry.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
But Sorry yeah, then I guess it would be One Punch,
which is just so funny.
It's such a great show, it's sofunny, mm-hmm.
I thoroughly enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You know there's some stuff that we could do without,
but for the most part it'sfunny one that's really great
and it really doesn't have anyof that inappropriate lewdness
that sometimes comes with anime,because unfortunately animes
will throw in and not to likelure anybody into sin, but more
as a comical thing they'll dolewd stuff or inappropriate

(50:18):
there's something about thejapanese culture that it's a
niche that fits in andeverybody's okay with it.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
In a weird way, yeah, but it just doesn't translate
over to bible belt south right,it doesn't.
It makes me uncomfortable.
I mean, you know, if I, if Iwasn't a believer, I'd probably
be like I would obviously pickup on it and be like, oh well,
that's kind of S word, s word.
I didn't want to say that.

(50:48):
Oh, I didn't want to say it Gotit.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Okay, not a cuss, not a cuss, not a cuss.
A three-letter word Okay, cuss.
A three-letter word, no, no.
Okay, four letter, but withthat being said, something that
doesn't have that in it, andit's really good is demon slayer
, but no, it's just funny thename I know and the name is a
little off-putting in that senseyes, but they are literally

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slaying these.
they're more like ghouls orgoblin type things sort of, but
it's just like overpoweredmonsters that like they giant.
No, they're just normal,they're just, they're superhuman
monsters.
They call them demons, yeah,but there's like a like group of
secret organization swordsmenwho go after the demons to try

(51:35):
to rid them of the earth.
Got Gotcha and it's like someof the best animation that you
see in anime.
Yeah, and that's about to end.
Soon they're going to havethree movies coming out on their
final story arc and the firstmovie comes out this year, nice.

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That's kind of like Blade.
Blade would be kind of a closerway of putting it For those of
you who are in the Marvel world.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Blade.
Is the live-action version orthe American version of Demon
Hunter?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Sort of, but it's not the same thing.
Demon Slayer, it's not DemonSlayer.
I think you'd actually reallyenjoy Demon Hunter.
Demon Hunter is a heavy metalChristian band.
Yes, I think you'd really enjoyDemon Slayer.
All right, I might that.
Or Attack on Titan Maybe Attackon Titan's really good.
It's like German culture.
That's the one with the giantsGerman culture.

(52:38):
It has a lot of what feels likeGerman kind of cultural
influences on the show.
Oh, I think the live actionactually takes place in Germany,
because when the live actionmovie came out, they didn't have
the full plot of what's goingon.
Yeah, yeah.
So if you're familiar withAttack on Titan, we all know it
does not take place in Germany.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, have you ever watched Titan AE Moving on?
No, you haven't Titan AE Movingon?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
No, you haven't.
Titan AE, yeah, no, but I knowwhat you're talking about.
The movie, yeah, that was aweird one, sure was.
Anyways, you have anything elseyou want to say about.
No, I don't know if you cantell I can get on tangents on
anime.
Anime is great.
Yeah, okay, anime is notsomething that I see.

(53:40):
A lot of times people thinkAnime is not.
You know, oh, you're an adultwatching cartoons.
That's not what anime is veryentertaining and very well made
and just overall good to watch.
Yeah, it's so entertaining andit's so wide, wide and diverse
in its themes, like where justdon't look at as a cartoon, look
at as tv, because it's so widein its genres within animated in
itself.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, which I mean I've watched some anime and
technically do live in myparents' house, so maybe I fit
the stigma, Maybe but you do.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
you are stereotyped, but you own your parents' house
now, so it's your house.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, it's my house.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
And yes, we record this in the basement, but you
don't live here.
No, I don't live in thebasement.
No, that's true, so all right.
Well, do you have anything elseto say about one piece or anime
in general?

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I've got my transition for tyler.
Oh yeah, that has to somewhatdo with one piece, but it's
something totally different, solet's transition into a midway
conversation about theinspiration of one piece.
Right, uh it has someinspiration is pulled from it
for one piece.

(54:45):
Yes, it is about a real lifepirate.
So, tyler, this is yourtransition.
This is about a pirate in thereal world.
He was a French pirate.
His name was Olivier Levasseurand he was around in 1960 to

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1730.
He was known for being ruthlessin his attacks on his enemies
and the way he spoke to themwhich fun fact is Buggy the

(55:26):
pirate?
Really, he's known forbad-mouthing people.
Oh yeah, true, that's one ofhis special abilities.
They say, Anyways, but this isnot where that no, that's side
note.
He basically accumulated a verymassive treasure that they

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estimate today to be around $1billion.
That's an estimate.
There's no solid.
Is that the value?

Speaker 1 (55:54):
of today, though, or just yes, yes, so not back then
value.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
No, not back then it would be even more.
It's the equivalent of abillion dollars today Billion or
million.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Billion, no, the B?
Whoa.
And he stashed this somewhereand he was caught and they were
gonna hang him, and so he wore acryptogram on a necklace around
his neck before they hung himas the execution.

(56:31):
He threw the necklace into thecrowd.
Into the crowd, says find mytreasure if you can, and then
he's hung.
So this is a picture and thiswill be posted on youtube for
you guys.
But that is the cryptogram andhe just threw that into the
crowd.
The necklace has disappeared,but they still have this and

(56:56):
people ever since then, eversince the 1700s, have been
looking for this treasure, buthave still not found it.
Wow, so this guy, heaccumulated a massive treasure.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
It's because no one has any fruit powers to help
them find the treasure.
Yeah, that's why no one's foundit.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, but I mean, there's a handful of locations
that people have suspected to bewhere it's located and one guy,
one Englishman, figured outthat it's hidden underground
somewhere, but it's protected bythe currents of the ocean.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
What's that?
One island that's real famousright now because everybody's
digging trying to find thetreasure on it.
It's got like TV shows Oaksomething island.
Oak island yeah, that's whereit's at.
No, no, yeah, that's where it'sat.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
That's like in Canada .
I think this is over likeAfrica.
Yeah, he went where it's at.
That's like in Canada.
I think this is over likeAfrica.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Yeah, he went from Africa to Canada.
Oh, okay, yeah, that's whereit's at.
Everybody, go to Oak Island.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, yeah, now, apparently like that one, it's
pretty easy to find the location, but it's near impossible to
dig it out.
Gotcha, like the way that theyburied it and set traps and
landfills and stuff like that.
That's Oak Island you'retalking about.
That's Oak Island With this.
People haven't even found it.

(58:26):
They don't even really know thelocation.
There's a couple of suggestions.
It's probably here and peoplehave looked in those islands and
areas, but still no one's foundanything.
Hmm, so pretty interesting, butthat is just like Gold D Roger,
gold D Roger from the one piecethe king of the pirates.

(58:49):
On his execution he says I'vehidden my treasure in one spot.
It's all in one spot, it'syours to find.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
It's yours, it's all.
He says.
I've left it all in one spot.
It's yours to find.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
It's yours, he says I've left it all in one piece.
In one piece, yeah, and so,yeah, pretty similar, pretty
interesting, and started makingme think why am I not church
rounding Right Oak Island?
No, I don't want to go to OakIsland.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Someone has spent like I think it was like $1.
Something million trying toexcavate it and they watch them
eventually get the treasure andit's going to be worth like
$500,000.
No, that crew left.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh really, they ran out of money trying to dig it up
.
Jeez, it's like yeah, it's oneof those things and I think,
because of all of the searchingand digging people have done, I
think it's made it even harderto get to that treasure.
I know.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Have you ever seen the movie Casper the Friendly
Ghost?
No, so they go through thatwhole movie looking for the
treasure in the house and itends up being a personal
treasure of a baseball and abaseball mitt.
Because the, the kid who playslike the, the before Casper
became a ghost when he was a boy.
He liked playing baseball withhis father, so as his treasure

(01:00:11):
so I'm saying that's Oak Islandis somebody's personal treasure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
That'd be funny.
No, it is documented to be apirate trove.
Oh, there you go, just seeing.
Yeah, so that was mypirate-themed fascination that I
found out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
You know what else is fascinating?
What Our last segment of theepisode.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Oh, tyler, this is your transition.
We are moving into the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Step inside if you dare.
Shadows move, mysteries whisperand the unknown awaits.
Welcome to the Corner.
So on this episode we're goingto be talking about a sea

(01:01:13):
creature, because in One Piecethey deal with a lot of.
They call them the sea kingsSea kings, but they're
essentially just like giant seacreatures.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah, and they're not .
No two are the same.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
No, they always look so odd.
Like one's like a giant serpent.
Another one looks like a giantcow, sea cow.
Yeah, one of them's like agiant sea cat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
It's literally the head of a cat and the rest of
it's a fish, so I guess it'scatfish there you go, there you
go.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Well, though, there's only one cryptid I could think
of that is associated with beinga sea creature the Loch Ness
Monster.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Loch Ness, which is from the loch, the loch Of Ness
Of.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Ness.
It's funny because it's likethe same way that we look at
Frankenstein's monster.
Yeah Right, everybody calls himFrankenstein.
No, frankenstein was theprofessor, doctor madman, who
made Frankenstein, or themonster, what's it called when
you dig up a corpse?
A grave robber?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Is it just grave robber, or is there, like a
necro, something?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
But it's interesting that it's called the Loch Ness
Monster, but somehow it's Nessie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, loch Ness, nessie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Mm-hmm.
So the earliest known story ofNessie is back in 565 AD, St
Columbia.
An Irish monk is said to haveencountered a water beast in the
river Ness the river Ness,that's what it says.
Interesting, I wonder if thebecause is it Lakeakeness or is

(01:02:59):
it lochness.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
So loch is the term.
Is the Scottish term for lake.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Okay, they call it a loch, so maybe there's a
lakeness and a riverness.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Hmm, yes, I'll have to look into that.
I guess there's a river thatruns by it or into it.
Well, I've always understoodthat the lock is not really it's
confined, but it's so deep andthey just recently, in more
recent years, they found outthat there's tunnels way down

(01:03:33):
low and they allege that thosetunnels lead into the ocean.
Or maybe they proved that.
I don't know, know.
I know that there's tunnelsthat go out.
So it looks like it's if therewas a monster or a massive
creature that was in the lake.
In theory it could make its wayout into the ocean.
And then we all know that thatit could go anywhere, because

(01:03:59):
we've discovered what was itlike?

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
15% of our ocean, or something Is undiscovered or
we've only discovered Isdiscovered, only discovered,
like, I think, 15 to 20% of ourocean book life of saint
columbia, written in the seventhcentury.
The creature attacked a swimmerbut columbia made the sign of a

(01:04:22):
cross and ordered it to be toretreat.
The monster obeyed.
That is the first written, youknow, indication of ness lock
lochness, a monster in the NessNessie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, in the lake loch or the loch.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
For centuries, highland locals spoke of Kelpies
, which are shape-shifting waterspirits and lake monsters.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
for years, yeah, which I find it interesting that
the oldest story it has to dowith someone presenting and
invoking christ and that stavesoff the monster, right.
So you know, if you want totake that I guess you could say
spiritual route for the cryptid,because that's what we

(01:05:09):
inevitably like, the deeper youdig into crypto, crypto cryptids
, cryptozoology, cryptozoologyand other things like spirits
and ghosts and all that stuff,it all becomes heavily connected
to the occult and so, andthings like you know, getting

(01:05:32):
into the Nephilim and the fallenspirits of this world and all
that stuff, can they take formand what does the form look like
and all of that?
So water, spirits or spritesand the monster of Loch Ness, if

(01:05:53):
it's a demonic spiritual thingthat's manifesting and then you
invoke the power of Christ andit deters it, then there you go,
case closed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
It's demonic, it's demonic, but we don't know that
In 1933, the legend of Nessieexploded when a couple diving
near the lock claimed they sawin quotes an enormous animal
rolling and plunging on thesurface of the lake Interesting.
The next year, in 1934, thefamous surgeon's photograph was

(01:06:31):
published and we've all seenthis photograph.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
We've all know exactly what this thing looks
like.
Yeah, we've all know exactlywhat this thing looks like.
Yeah, and only have you seen.
So, like, what we see is a veryzoomed in image of this, the
famous like cutout silhouette ofthe Loch Ness Monster.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Have you ever seen the full photograph?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
It is so obviously fake.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's essentially for that,like I'm not saying that nessie
isn't real, that there wasn'tsome sort of creature in this
lake, yeah but the one picture,the proof of it, yeah, when it's
zoomed out is obviously a tinylittle object at the bank of a

(01:07:15):
of the lake, yeah, not out inthe middle of it.
You can all of a sudden lookand realize, oh, these are tiny
little, just waves in the water,not like massive plummeting,
like the little ripples in thewater, yeah, so later revealed
to be a hoax using a toysubmarine and putty.
But by then nessie had became asensation and we're talking

(01:07:35):
about about the photograph.
So it's probably not real.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Well, but you kind of got to leave it as an open hand
thing because, like in theconspiracy realm, with all these
people that are trying toresearch and study cryptids,
they have to filter through allof the genuine fake things that

(01:08:01):
are put out there to get to realevidence.
And like no one's denying that,like there are people that will
try to do Bigfoot like oh, wefound Bigfoot on camera.
It's obviously a human dressedup in an ape costume off in the
distance or like a quick littlebleep where they run at the

(01:08:21):
camera or whatever.
Like it's very fake, it's veryobvious and it's very fake.
But some of the evidence it'shard to justify as fake, like
you can't really fake it, youknow what I mean justifies fake.
Like you can't really fake it,you know what I mean.
But because there is that fakeevidence out there now it's like

(01:08:42):
well, it's all fake becausethis stuff is so obviously fake
and a lie.
All of it's a lie.
So that's how I look at it.
I mean someone yeah, this guy,he was trying to make a name for
himself or trying to make somemoney by taking a picture of
this monster in the lock, andit's just obviously not that,

(01:09:05):
but what do you do with all theother stories of people that
have you know they have noreason to come forth and tell
the story that's true, you know,you know, I don't really know a
whole lot about nessie.
You know, I've, I've heard allthe basic stuff and the biggest
thing is like, oh, the picture.

(01:09:25):
And then, oh, the picture isverifiably false.
Yeah, so all we have iseyewitness testimony that's it
and, like I said, like the ummapping of the of the lock, they
have discovered caverns thatlead to the ocean.

(01:09:48):
I believe fact.
Check me on that, people.
But so if there is a giantmonster that finds its way into
the loch, it is very possiblethat it's coming from the ocean,
especially if it's, like othersea creatures, that has a
migration path and it migratesfrom one part of the world to

(01:10:12):
the other, the other.
If the loch in scotland, theloch ness is, is a nesting site,
it would make sense that thiscreature comes there, lays an
egg, dies and so we're notseeing the same creature we're
seeing but you know that's justcomparing a prehistoric

(01:10:35):
dinosaur-like looking monster totrout.
you know, like in, what trout do, so there's no way to know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Fun fact here Nessie is older than most pirate myths.
Well, what do you mean bypirate myths?
Well, just pirates and storyPiracy kind of in general.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, piratetales, pirate tales and of in
general.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Oh, okay, yeah, pirate tales, pirate tales and
stuff.
Dead men tell no tales.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Ironically, ironically To tie it back into
one piece.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
So there you go, there you go, people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Turns out that Nessie is older than pirate stories,
and Nessie, more than likely, isolder than you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Actually, I don't think people realize that piracy
was from the late 1600s, orreally from the 1700s to the
mid-1800s.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Like the romanticized piracy, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
There's that 100-year gap.
We have it, we have it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Yeah, no, but yeah, it's like when you hear about
the pirates and stuff, you thinkit's older, you think it's like
, oh, 1500s is when the pirateswere.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
No, yeah, no, it was the 1800s.
1800s, you know, 17 to 1800s.
Yeah, pretty cool stuff.
Pretty, unless you're countingthe somalia pirates, and those
are modern day which have youseen?

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
that's still.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
That's still younger than nessie, that's true unless
you're talking about the vikings, that would be.
Which, have you seen?
That's still younger thanNessie, that's true.
Unless you're talking about theVikings, then that would be.
So there you go.
Piracy was happening in 1700sto 1800s, and here we are, 21st
century, and still talking aboutit, yeah, and making

(01:12:36):
entertaining entertainment aboutit, that's right.
And we're still talking aboutpirates, yeah, and Making
entertaining entertainment aboutit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
That's right, and we're still talking about
pirates and Nessie Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Who is older than the ?

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
pirates, which is older than the pirates.
So there you go, there you go.
So, anyways, thank youeverybody for joining us on this
very fun pirate themed 35thepisode of the Saints that Serve
podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yes, Sorry if it was all like over your head with the
one-piece stuff.
If you take anything away, takeaway that.
There is a lot to the story.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Mm-hmm, and we probably, when just discussing
this, probably scratched onepercent of the of it or went
over, you know very quickly, onepercent of all the information
of one piece.
Oh yeah, barely got into it andwe ranted for way too long.
Yeah, seriously, it's a greatshow again.

(01:13:34):
If you don't, if you think athousand two episodes is
daunting which it is there isthe live action, which is eight
episodes, and that gives you avery good jumping off point.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
And I think that the live action, I think it's good
Check it out, which I think isseason two coming soon.
Oh yeah, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I'll watch it.
Oh yeah, cool, I'll watch it.
Yeah, okay, all right, so Fine,there you go, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
We are the Saints that Serve, so in this episode

(01:14:34):
thread what law or note tofollow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
So, wow, tea, a drink with jam and bread.
That will bring us back to so,so, so so, actually, it's dough,
dough, dough, dough, dough,dough, dough, dough, dough,
dough dough.

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