Episode 39 - Vikings in Entertainment

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Why are we still obsessed with Vikings?
In this episode, we dive into Viking-inspired media - from intense films like The Northman to family favorites like How to Train Your Dragon. We explore hit shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom, plus Norse-themed games like Valheim, Hellblade, and God of War. Discover how Viking culture still shapes modern storytelling and why these ancient warriors continue to capture our imagination.

We also unpack why Viking themes resonate so deeply with audiences today. Is it their warrior ethos, their mythic gods, or the dream of freedom in a chaotic world? Whether you're drawn to longships, epic battles, or the mystical Norse afterlife, this episode explores how Vikings have conquered more than just history - they’ve conquered pop culture.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Thank you all for joining us onthis episode 39 of the saints
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Podcast episode 39 how you been pretty good how you
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I've been doing pretty good also.
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We've done a 50 things for thispodcast.

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I wouldn't even want to call it a gig.
This is our side project.
Yes, we don't make money, guys.
Our art project by choice, bychoice yeah so but yeah, oh man,
I lost my train of thought, Igot sidetracked there.
Oh, if y'all, if y'all are onthis for 39 episodes and you
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I'm pretty great, great andJohnny's forgettable fair, got
him, got him.

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I we've talked about this before.
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Yeah.

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So it's not like the phrase Twitter referring to X is
gone.

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It's weird to call it X-ing.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's got to be a tweet,not an X.
I'm tweeting, I'm not X-ing.
Isn't like just Elon Musk has athing for the letter x I don't
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dislikes you're not a musky Iwould like to think that as a
child, he played with a lot ofdifferent variations of vehicles

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Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah made a spaceship .
Nah, it's not my thing.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Car cars spaceships and train tracks for trains do
you think he likes the x-men?
maybe I don't know, or he likesthe number 10, oh yeah, anyway,
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On X we're also on Threads,youtube, facebook, all of it

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We're not committing to MySpace.
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We did.
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Let us know if you're partaking in that.

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Let us know if you watch the thing that as of this
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Yeah, yeah, we haven't.
We're recording ahead.

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But I mean, that's what we do every week, so it's
not a big surprise or anythingShocker.
Everyone I know, right?
No, the reason why I bring thatup is because I'm already going
to date this episode, so I'mvery excited.
In about a couple hours I'mgoing to head out to go wait in
line for another five hours toget the Switch 2.
So that's right.

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Awesome, I can't wait for you.
That's so exciting.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I got that button too .
No, not the GameCube, theSwitch 2.
No, but the reason why I saythat is because that was one of
the major factors holding usback on doing our Saints.
That Play channel, yeah.
Our gaming channel yeah.
It's going to be probably nowaround sometime in July when

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that goes live.
But the Switch 2 was theconsole in a very particular
game I wanted to get for theSwitch 2.

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Yeah.

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That I want us to start with.
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It's going to be sometime inJuly.
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So yes, if you need prayer, just.
Sorry sorry, and that's prettymuch all I have for
announcements.
So are you ready to get intoour topic?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes, go ahead.
I'm not clever like you.
I didn't write like this allalong.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Here's our ambience.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
All right, hold on, here we go.
When most people hear the wordViking, they imagine horned
helmets, long ships on stormyseas and warriors pillaging
coastal towns.
But who were the Vikings really?
So, tyler, this is yourtransition into the main topic

(06:59):
Vikings.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
That was really good, thank you, it was really good,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Uh, yeah, guys we're talking about Vikings, if you?
Uh, if you look at my notes,look how much that was just that
first small paragraph up there.
Oh, yeah, thanks for not.
Yeah, don't, thanks for notkeep going.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Thank you.
I mean you put me on the spotthere of doing something, so I
was like I got you hey, thatreading was so good, you leveled
up wow in a game I didn'treally like that much.
That's another level, another.
What is that deception thattime?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I don't know yeah, I guess, uh, no.
So we're gonna be talking aboutvikings, but we're gonna kind
of we'll talk a little bit aboutwho the vikings actually were,
but we're gonna kind of morefocus so on viking media, yeah,
so there's, I mean, surprisinglythere's a lot.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
There's a lot more within my research than I
thought.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
So there's some that I was like, oh yeah, of course,
like well, some I didn't knowabout, some that I forgot about,
and some that just like, oh, ofcourse I forgot about.
You know what I mean.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm thinking of what you'rethrowing down.
Thank you, please, because Idon't want to litter.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Good, you know what I'm saying.
I'm thinking of what you'rethrowing down.
Thank you, please, because Idon't want to litter.
Good call, yeah.
So what do you want to talkabout first?
You want to get into?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
The Vikings were yeah , let's do that.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Let's talk about who the Vikings were.
So the Vikings were seafaringpeople from the Scandinavian
countries of Norway, denmark andSweden who lived during the
late 8th to early 11th centuries, a period commonly known as the
Viking Age.
They were not a unified peopleor nation, but a collection of

(08:54):
independent tribes andchieftains with a shared culture
, language, language andworldview, just like southern
people in georgia just like thesouthern people so yeah, 793 ad
to 10, 66 ad, so 300 years.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, they were, they were pretty big deal they, so a
lot of their like the biggestthing about the Vikings was, for
a while there, their paganculture, so they were a
polytheistic culture beforeChristianity came in to the
picture.
But they so they had, you know,different gods and they did

(09:43):
different practices fordifferent things, Mm-hmm and.
But they don't have like a holytext Right Like Judaism or
Islam or Christianity.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, which I didn't realize this, but all of their
stories and religious practicesand gods were all spoken word of
mouth, passed down.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, it was all predominantly oral.
Some of their lore, well, Iguess a lot of their lore was
kind of chronicled in thingsthat they called sagas, and so
from what I'm seeing, there wasapproximately ballpark, I guess,

(10:29):
a hundred sagas that we havefound.
I think the one that I know themost is the Volsung sagas.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Why does that sound so familiar?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Because a lot of people take creative inspiration
from the Volsungs.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Is that kind of like what's mostly used in media
today?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Maybe a little bit.
I know that the Tolkien tookinspiration from the Volsungs,
not CS Lewis, not CS.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean, maybe he took some too.
You want a quick mini?
Let me apologize for you tokeep Sorry.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Okay, let me apologize everybody.
I kept on mixing up CS Lewisand JRR Tolkien.
Last episode I corrected myselfevery time.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, but you kept doing it.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
And I kept doing it, and so that's unacceptable.
I'm sorry, forgive me, and nowthat I've apologized I don't
care what any of you think of me.
No, but seriously, I am sorry.
But yeah, I know that for Lordof the Rings he did take
creativity or inspirationInspiration from the Volsungs,

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and I can't think of anybodyelse but their story.
I don't know, I don't know itwell enough to kind of sit here
and give you a synopsis of it,but it is very popular.
Yeah, that and Beowulf are liketwo really popular Viking
writings the Volsungs and thenBeowulf.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, so did you know ?
The word Viking likely comesfrom the Old Norse viker,
meaning pirate or raider.
I'm saying it wrong.
It's spelled V-I-K-I-N-G-R.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Vikinger Dude from having friends from Sweden and
Norway.
Sometimes the way that theypronounce words it's just silly.
You'll pronounce it the exactsame way and they're like no,
you're pronouncing it wrong andyou're just like what.
You didn't put enough of a oohor a ur in your whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, you didn't make enough sound on the letter Like
oh yeah, the letter O in myname has to be said exactly
three seconds.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, you didn't do it the right way.
It's supposed to be like this.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
That's how I pronounce my ends, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Uh, but yeah, it is a , it is an interesting language.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
My boss at work is Polish and I say his name right
and he tells me all the time no,you're saying my name wrong.
No, I'm saying it correctly.
I'm just not saying it thePolish rolling the R at the end
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Can I just acknowledge that everywhere else
in the world they do that toAmericans.
They're like, no, you're sayingit wrong or no, you're
pronouncing it wrong.
But whenever somebody comeshere and says our names wrong or
mispronounces our words, we'rejust like we go out of our way
to try and understand whatthey're saying.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, I mean yeah, we get it, we get it.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Also, we kind of slur our words and letters together
to the point where likehamburger is burger.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well, but that's just a dialect, that's just an
English dialect.
You know what I mean.
That's just a dialect, that'sjust an English dialect.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
You know what I mean.
That's an American word Merca.
See, like that we slurred alltogether instead of saying
America, merca, merca.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, dude.
I mean, look at the Gen Z stuff.
They can literally put a bunchof words together that when you
put them all together they makeno sense.
But because they and theirgeneration have given those
words alternative meanings theycan dialogue with one another we

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need to put.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I at one point wanted to play a game.
Obviously I'm not prepared forit, so maybe like next week or
something like that, but Iwanted to like, throw at you
current slang, okay, and see ifyou could guess what it meant.
No cap, maybe you do.
Yeah, we hear it, but what doesit really mean?
You know what I mean, so be onthe lookout for that.

(14:52):
We might try to play that nextweek.
Skibbity Ohio, riz.
Skibbity Riz, it's so stupid,yeah.
And skippity riz, it's sostupid, yeah.
And most of the words meannothing.
They're like instead of like,where, like you say, like bet
means you betcha, like gotcha.
You know what I mean.
It's something like skippityand you know skippity tulip or
skippity riz, like.

(15:12):
Skippity is means nothing.
It's a nothing word that theyjust add in there.
They created, created, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
It is quite funny, but yeah, going back to the
Vikings, yeah, let's get back ontopic, get back on the focus.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Tonight I feel like we're going to get off topic a
few times and that's okay.
That's okay Because you're justhanging out with us tonight,
that's right.
Or this morning, I guess, niceand smooth.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Depends on when you're listening to it, just
hanging out with your friends orjust having a good time you
know, breaking the ice.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Jeez, oh, that was some really fragile ice.
Wait, wait, do that again.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Here we are.
We're going to talk aboutVikings.
Joke, we're not talking aboutthe historical Vikings, we're
talking about the football teamwell, bait and switch this is
now a sports podcast saints thattalk about football.
The saints that play yeah,sports sports, talk about sports

(16:13):
.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Uh, saints, that sports the saints that sports no
that wouldn't be bad if we didend up having somebody who
actually was a sports personperson expert to come on and,
you know, have their own show.
We can branch the show the thesaints brand out.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, I feel like this is this is a dialogue for a
creative meeting, not for forthe actual podcast live.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I will say one last thing.
When we first started thepodcast, anytime you search for
the Saints, that the footballteam was the only thing that
came up.
That is funny.
You do certain Saints thatserve.
It's like the Saints.
New Orleans Saints footballteam.
New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
But we're getting there, we're catching up with
the New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Saints, that's right.
We're going to bypass them soon, awesome.
Or surpass them, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I will say that a lot of the lore from the Vikings
religion, if you will, thatplays into all things fantasy
today.
Yeah, we talked about fantasylast week, but a lot of stuff
that we have that like we callby the names, like elves, trolls

(17:26):
, goblins, frost giants, firegiants, dragons, like all these
different things they're,they're included in the viking
religion and lore.
Yeah, and then, because tolkientook inspiration from that and

(17:48):
since he's the father of fantasy, it exploded and and that's
what we had today.
So now, when anyone talks abouta godlin or when anyone talks
about a, an elf, yeah, we allthink fantasy.
But those things come from theViking religion.
Yeah, you know so, their falsereligion, their false religion,

(18:09):
which, when the TV series wasout for a couple of years,
vikings, vikings.
After that, there's a verysmall resurgence of paganism,
viking paganism.
Yeah, they followed the line ofthe Germanic, scandinavian

(18:33):
paganism, but they don't do theexact same stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
They're not doing blood sacrifices of humans, it's
more of they.
It's almost like not so muchpracticing as much as just
people who just really like,like they're super fans of the
stories.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, the same way people go inover the top with any fan base
of some kind.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, well, I mean, in the search of identity that
we all go through, right, whensomething strikes you and you're
like I really like that or Ireally want to be a part of that
, it will alter you.
I mean, your identity will thenrevolve around that until it
becomes your belief system,right, that's why you have
things like people practicingViking paganism or women getting

(19:25):
involved in Druid cultpractices.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right.
It's weird to me because it'sjust like anything can be a
replacement for God.
It doesn't just necessarilyhave to be something that is
presenting itself as a religion.
I mean you can replace God inthat, be your deity Anime, you

(19:50):
go to these conventions, youdress up and you practice it and
you do all these things likeit's a religion, sports.
Anything can be a ungodlyreplacement of God.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I would say so, getting into the philosophical
weeds, that when people don'tattribute a deity to their
worship that they practice, it'sbecause they practice humanism
and that's their religion,because humanism preaches that

(20:25):
you're valuable, you haveself-worth.
Take care of yourself, pamperyourself, get yourself into the
point where you can live yourbest life, treat yourself and
then your life will be great andyou'll live a great life.
And so people who just havethey don't have a concept.
Be for, treat yourself is whatatheism sought out to do.

(20:49):
Atheists sought out to prove,like God doesn't exist.
This is all random, it's all bychance, and there is no
afterlife.
There is nothing.
We're just an accident floatingthrough the void of space.
And so that has evolved intojust humanism, because being a

(21:15):
hardcore atheist, they're prettymuch all gone.
It's really hard to stick tothat, but it has gone down to
agnostics and humanism and theneven new age, when you get super
spiritual new age.
But yeah it, uh, yeah.
So anybody who like, who doesthat like they don't.

(21:36):
They don't necessarily have anysort of religious tie, but they
, they put all their time,treasures and talents into this
one thing, like you said, anime.
It's probably because theirconcept of reality is based in
humanism, or it's people thatthey associate themselves with a

(22:00):
religion, but they don't havean understanding of what it is
to worship.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Right, because a lot of times they don't have any
guidance.
They just kind of made it up.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, so everyone's just seeking their own truth
into what happened in the fallin the garden in Genesis.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Chapter 3 is trying to put things and take control
of something that is beyond yourcontrol.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, yeah, and I mean, the tree was called, the
fruit was called the fruit ofthe tree of the knowledge of
good and evil.
And so Adam and Eve wereseeking to have that knowledge
right, and the serpent wasgiving half truths to masquerade

(22:48):
the idea that, like hey, you'renot getting the whole truth.
You know, so why don't you dothis?
And and so now here we are, you, you know, I believe, 6,000
years removed, and people areconstantly seeking for truth.
And if you go to John, I wantto say John 18.

(23:13):
So I'm going to pull it up inmy handy dandy Bible app Is your
name?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Steve.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, you have your handy dandy notebook.
Oh no, that was a blues cluesreference.
My name's not Steve.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I am Steve, so Jesus is about to be crucified.
We still need to do that.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
That review?
Yeah, we're, we're, we're justcoming guys.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
We're going to review the Minecraft, maybe don't
worry.
Uh yeah, it's coming, guys.
We're going to review theMinecraft, maybe Don't worry,
anyways.
So John, chapter 18, startingin verse 37, says Then, pilate
said to him so you are the king?
Jesus answered you say that Iam a king.
For this purpose I was born andfor this purpose I have come
into the world to bear witnessto the truth.

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Everyone who is of the truthlistens to my voice.
Pilate said to him what istruth?
After he had said this, he wentback outside to the Jews and
told them I find no guilt in him.
And it keeps going back andforth and ultimately christ is
crucified and and is buried andthen three days later, he comes

(24:22):
back from the dead.
But there's that littleinteraction with pilot, who's a
pagan, who has no belief inyahweh, and but he's confronted
with this righteous man who hasdone nothing wrong, yet his, His
own people want to kill him,and so he's trying to figure out

(24:43):
what's going on.
And and Jesus has made the.
They say that Jesus has made theclaim that he is the King of
the Jews, and so pilots like isit true?
Like, if you claim that, andJesus is just talking about the
truth.
It's like what's the truth?
Jesus is just talking about thetruth.
It's like what's the truth?
The truth is that God createdall things.

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There's only one God.
Mankind has rebelled againstGod and fallen into what we call
sin, which is the action ofdefiance and disobedience of God
and his holy rule and order,and disobedience of God and his

(25:25):
holy rule and order.
And Jesus has come to pay theprice so that man can be
forgiven of his sin, so that hecan be restored to communion and
fellowship with the creator,who originally designed man to
be in communion and fellowshipwith the creator, designed man
to be in communion andfellowship with the creator.
And so jesus is spitting like Ihave come to.

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I have come to reveal the truthand those who believe will know
the truth.
And uh and pilots, like thefirst time in his life, he's
like what is that?
What is?
What is the truth?
You know, and people may.
People may interpret thatdifferently, but I guess what
I'm trying to get at through allthis dialogue is that everyone

(26:07):
is seeking truth, right, theymay be not so honest about it
and say they're after somethingelse or they're living for
something else, but ultimatelyeveryone is seeking to live in a
truth, but there's only onetruth.
There's not multiple truths,there's not my truth and your
truth.

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There's just the truth.
And it has to be found in God,because God is the truth, the
creator, the foundation of allthings that exist, and so, in
order for us to get accurateinformation, we need to start
with God.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
So yeah and yeah, with that, you know it's we're
looking at Vikings from thepoint of view of entertainment
and not really, you know,looking at it as a actual
religion.
Yeah, that's always how I'veviewed.
You know Greek mythology aswell personally.
It's just a fairy tale, it'sjust something interesting to be

(27:07):
a part of, but nothing that youshould take seriously when it
comes to your faith.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, it goes back around to what we've talked
about so many times when itcomes to magic, around to what
we've talked about so many timeswhen it comes to magic, like,
if it's, if it's conflicting youand the spirit is convicting
you, you can do without it.
You don't need that stuff.
I mean, I used to love to sitand listen to viking music, uh,

(27:38):
but I can't do it anymore.
I've got this weird thing.
I'm like some of these songs.
They are singing to Odin, theyare singing to Freyr, and those
are demonic forces.
I firmly believe that.
So I don't really want tolisten to a song that's singing
to a demonic force, right?
But yeah, I mean mean to eachhis own.

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And on the flip side of that, Ilove the vikings show, the
first three seasons at least.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I love the uh, I think it's called the last
kingdom so, yeah, before westart talking about that, let's
just all right, let's, you know,said all that to say that we're
not really going to get toomuch into the full backstory.
We gave a kind of a briefsummary of the Vikings in that
sense, but what we really wantedto talk about was Viking media,

(28:29):
because it's fun.
It is fun.
So do you want to talk aboutmovies, video games?
What do you want to go into?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
first, tv shows let's bring up, maybe like our top
two or three movies.
Do you have a top viking moviethat you like?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
yeah, what is it?
The northman?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
really good.
It's so good.
It's dark, but it's good yeahit.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I think it really summarizes like if you're trying
to watch something that hasvikings in it, yeah, it's a
viking story with no like.
I mean, there are weirdspiritual moments in it yes but
overall, if you're talking about, you know just a show about or

(29:18):
a movie about Vikings, yeah,that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, so for me my top Viking movie is going to be
the 13th Warrior.
Have you ever watched thatmovie before?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, but it's on my list, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's funny because it's Antonio Banderas.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, we've talked about this, right.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
A Spanish man from Spain, antonio Banderas, plays
an Arab from the Middle East whogoes on a quest with 12 Nordic
Vikings and he's the 13th one.
He's the 13th warrior that goeson this quest, but it is a good

(30:04):
story.
I do like it.
And then, honorable, second up,how to train your dragon.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, let's be honest , how to train your dragon is
probably you.
We all have our favorites, butit's probably that one's
probably the best.
Yeah, I mean, come on, we'reabout to get a live action
remake of it's.
It's probably that one'sprobably the best.
Yeah, I mean, come on, we'reabout to get a live action
remake of it.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, it's gonna be great, it's gonna be great.
Another good one is outlanderit has.
Who's the guy that plays christin passion?
Ah, geez, um, I keep on wantingto say vin something and I'm
like, no, that's vin diesel andhe's vin diesel.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
You know what this is about.
It's jim cavillo, as he's onthe uh, as, and he's vin diesel.
You know what this is about.
It's jim cavill, as he's on theuh, as he's on the cross.
You know what this is about.
It's about family anyways.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Uh yeah, jim cavill.
It's a jim cavill movie andit's about a.
There's no other way to saythis.
It's about a alien.
He's an alien coming down toearth during the viking age like
a gray man.
No, no he's a human.
But I'm just saying he's notfrom earth, but he's a human.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Well, but you know what I mean.
Alien outer space.
Outer space alien ufos.
Alien in viking times.
Alien in Viking times Outlander.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yep Outlander.
He comes down because there isan actual space alien monster
that has landed on Earth and heis trying to kill it.
What are movies, dude?
It's a good movie.
What are movies?
It's a good movie?
Yeah, so those are my things.

(31:44):
Do you want to talk?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
about shows real quick.
Yeah, so I've watched vikingmovies.
I really haven't watched toomany viking shows.
Yeah, so I think that you Imean you talked about yours here
I've watched a couple episodesof vikings, but only because
ashley had on.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but I never really satdown and watched Vikings.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
There's not really.
I mean, I guess there's a goodamount, but like the top two I
would say are Vikings.
And then the Last Kingdom waspretty big too.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And what's the Last Kingdom about?
Because I have it on my list ofmovies, but you know.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
So the Last Kingdom is about basically, the Vikings
invading Britain and setting uptheir own territory within
England, and then it's theconflicts between the two,
between the Britons and theVikings, and during all of that

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it's the different Britishkingdoms trying to unite somehow
.
And so-.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
So is the Vikings, the villains in it Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Sometimes it's the British and sometimes the
Vikings team up with the certaingroups, certain groups certain
facts, so it just depends on theepisode depends on the season.
Okay, um, but there's, I don'tremember it ran for seven years
yeah, it has.
Did it say how many seasons it?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
doesn't?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
it just shows 2015 to 2022 okay, so it has five
seasons and then a movie okay,it's like the movie, the closer,
or just yeah it closes out thestory.
It's, I think it's called likeseven kings must die, or
something like that gotcha, theydid that, but with firefly.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
They started with firefly, but it was serenity.
Then they had the tv show.
Oh no, I I know what.
You know I'm getting off track,but I just said they made that
statement and I was like there'sa 50% chance I'm wrong on that
statement of what came first.
So Serenity was the movie afterthe show.
Yes, okay, firefly is the show,and then there's a movie.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Also the name of the ship Yep.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
And then the movie is serenity, which happens after
the show.
Right, does it close the showout, or does it just kind of
like add on, like they weregoing to try to do more but they
just never did, or um, I guessit kind of closes the show out.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
The show didn't do very well, but the movie did
good gotcha.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
So I just know I watched like an episode.
I know it was highly beloved.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Now it is, yeah, but I think when it came out it
wasn't super popular.
Yeah, and you know what?
I don't like the propagandathat it spewed.
What's the propaganda?
Everyone spoke Chinese.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's like hey, if you want to learn the common tongue
, you got to learn mandarin.
It's like what?
The common tongue is mandarinacross space, like across
multiple planets, like come onat least with star wars.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
It's like they speak an alien language, but all the
humans are british for somereason I know why?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
why?
Because, because the theme ofempire Ah yeah, the great
British empire.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, not humans, but bipedal, humanoid people, apes.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Apes, you can say it Bipedal humanoid apes.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
There you go yeah.
Humanoid, Also known as Bigfootyou're telling me bigfoot's a
star war.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah bigfoot is a star war good job.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Wow, I'm learning good job, billy.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Um, let's get down to the actual nitty-gritty,
because I do want to talk aboutthis for a while yeah, let's.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I mean, come on video games.
Yeah, I mean, that's what we're.
That's what we're here, we'rereally here to talk about.
Yes, I don't have too many, butI know all of mine.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, I was looking through thelist.
I'm putting out things thatsounded interesting and whatnot
on my list and I got goingthrough the movies in the, in
the tv shows.

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I'm just like I've heard of it.
Yeah, I kind of know what thatis.
Yeah, let's start with Valheim.
Okay, valheim, it was fun toplay.
It really was.
I just turned it on oncebecause we moved on to other
things.
The thing with Valheim is it's acommitment game because it's
like Minecraft where, in orderto get an experience, you got to

(36:28):
play multiple times to fullyfind everything and do
everything well, and it's likeminecraft in the sense that it's
open world and that you canbuild and be creative.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Different from minecraft because there is an
actual story that you'resupposed to try to do in the
open world, roaming so, but thethe concept of the story is that
you're a viking who has died,but rather than going to
valhalla, you're dropped invalheim.

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You're dropped into the realmof valheim which.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
What is that in um, in viking myth um, is it kind of
like a purgatory, like you kindof have to survive, to fight
your way back to valhalla, umvalheim, I don't know when you
search it.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
It came up with the game right well, no, I don't
think it was one of the ninerealms, the nine worlds of norse
mythology, I think it was.
I think they, they created itin addition, because the idea is
that these seven demons,essentially, or monsters from
the nine realms, have beenbanished to valheim and they're

(37:44):
imprisoned in valheim, butthey've been gaining power and
they're trying to Valheim andthey're imprisoned in Valheim,
but they've been gaining powerand they're trying to break free
.
And that's in the game, or inthe lore that's in the game.
Okay, and so you're sent toValheim by the gods to fight
these seven monsters and earnyour way into Valhalla.
Yeah, earn your way intoValhalla, but to stop them from

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getting out of Valheim.
And so you go around the map,um, and as you learn, you learn,
or as you do, different things.
That's what unlocks, like the.
Oh, I remember this from when Iwas alive.
So it's like, as you're playingand you're increasing in skill,
the idea, the lore of the gameis you're remembering your old

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life, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
On.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Midgard.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
A lot of games kind of do that now, where you have
gameplay elements and you kindof can just jump right in into
the mechanics of the game and ifyou want to learn more about
the world, you have to find,like secret, little you know,
items.
They could be anything from ascroll to an audio tape,
depending on what kind of gameyou're playing, but it gives you

(38:56):
a little bit of backstory aboutwho you were.
Yeah, and I think that's prettyneat where they'll hide lore
stuff.
So it's like I had no ideaabout this game.
I played a thousand hours inthat.
This was what my character was.
Backstory is, you know yeah,yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
It is fun because it has the open world going around,
it has the, you know, gatheringmaterials, building structures,
because in the game you do haveto build defenses to fight
against the different thingslike trolls and wolves and
draugrs and different thingsit's funny because when we

(39:36):
played, I think you had alreadyhad your base built, so I just
kind of ran around the basebecause I had no idea what I was
doing.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, and then you're like and then you're like,
let's get on this boat.
And we went somewhere and itwas like and then you're like,
let's get on this boat.
And we went somewhere and itwas like, hey, it's getting late
, so let's get off.
And I never turned it back on.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, and that was.
The other fun thing is when itfirst came out, like it was
promoted, like hey, play withyour friends.
Yeah enjoyable if you hunttogether as vikings, if you
fight together as vikings, ifyou know this, that and the
other.
But yeah, dude valheim, it wasfun and we're sitting here

(40:12):
talking about it.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I may have to redownload it and play I'm I'm
willing, I'm willing to give itanother shot, now that it's been
like five years yeah, yeah theymight have added a lot.
Um, early access games that'swhat's great about them is like
you might play them and it'slike I bought this but I can't
get rid of it, and then you'llturn it back on like five years

(40:35):
later.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's a completely different game yeah, I mean, I
know right when I was gettingoff of valheim they were
releasing a whole nother biomein the game.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I mean, look at Minecraft.
They do it like all the time.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, dude, it's a pretty fun
game.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
No.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
What's one of your big Viking games?
Is it the weird mental ladygame Do you want to talk about?
That one we can talk about it.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Okay, so this game is so cool.
It's so cool, dude, I'm sorry.
So we're talking aboutHellblade Senua's Sacrifice, yes
, and so it's about a womanViking who is trying to traverse
the land to go to bury herhusband, who fell in battle,

(41:37):
correct, and you know he died,he was beheaded.
So she's carrying around hishead, trying to bury his head, I
guess, in his homeland, thatkind of thing.
Yeah, I never finished it, soit's kind of like I'm not sure
what the goal of it was, but thebig thing is that she's been in
so many battles, right, thatshe has PTSD.

(41:59):
Ah, so she has mental problemsbecause of what you know, what
she's seen in her life, thethings she's been through, and
they portray that in the game.
By is highly recommended to wearheadphones while playing the
game, because they utilize 3daudio that you'll be playing the
game yeah and then she'll starthearing voices in her head oh

(42:23):
yeah, yeah, I remember, Iremember because you, you had me
put on the headphones and youjust walk around and all of a
sudden it's just like you'll behearing, like in the distance,
as you should, such someone, oneof the best well designed sound
audio games, design wise yeah,but you'll be walking around.
It'll be like, oh, you canactually kind of like feel the
distance of a bird righttweeting or or the wind blowing

(42:45):
or a waterfall or or like anenemy kind of you see in the
distance and then you'll hearliterally you'll feel like it's
in your head, dude, wheresomebody whispering like I know
what you did to me and it's likeher husband talking to like
this stuff, like that.
It's such a cool game I'll neverforget you.
They have a sequel to it thatcame out fairly recently.

(43:07):
I didn't play it, but it's aHellblade Senua's Saga.
But, dude, the game is so cool,like that's all.
Like.
I love when the game doessomething just so cool.
You know what I mean.
Like, does something, like itdid more than just playing the
game.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
yeah, I just downloaded that one.
That's what that was um it.
It it's not my cup of tea, butit it was it's cool, it's cool,
it's cool, it's yeah, we gottajust honorable bring it up
because it's not technically aviking game, but it is because

(43:45):
it's not technically a Vikinggame, but it's a Viking game.
Skyrim Okay, I can see it'sinspired, it's heavily inspired
because, come on, they call themthe Norse in the game and it's
inspired by Norsemen inScandinavia.
So you know it's there.

(44:06):
It may not be Viking in namename, but it's viking in
appearance.
So yeah, that's out there, youguys.
Yeah, you know that it's outthere and maybe one day we'll
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Jerry says nothing to contribute to that conversation
because he doesn't play skyrimif they release a surprise
re-release remake of skyrim,you'll play I might try it just
like out of the blue, like theydid with the.
So what we're talking about isthe game before skyrim, elder
scrolls oblivion, oblivion 4right, yes, and just like out of

(44:42):
the blue.
They're just like hey, uh, we,we're remaking elder scrolls
oblivion to make it a moremodern game yeah and you can buy
it right now.
It's like I love it when gamesdo that, like, just like I
didn't know I wanted this, andnow I really want this and I can
get it oh, it feels so great.
Even I got excited for it andI'm like I don't want to play it

(45:04):
, but I got excited for it.
And I'm like I don't want toplay it, but I got excited just
because of surprise.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
We made you something you know, yeah, we played Elder
Scrolls Online for a littlewhile there.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, that was fun.
I like a good MMO.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I'm a fan of an MMO.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
When I first started playing that, I played with some
friends and my friend's wifeplayed Skyrimrim, but she played
it like a single player gameyeah so you know she would
always get really engrossed inthe world reading all the
documents and all this stuff andtake four hours to get through
one little, you know cave yeahyou know, because skyrim can do
that to you.
Yep.
Well, when we started playingelder scrolls online, she

(45:41):
started trying to do the samestuff and like we like we need
our healer.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Get over here.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, so it was hard playing that when I first played
, because it's like you needyour group of people like your
warrior, your tank and yourhealer when you go into a
dungeon.
In a dungeon and it's just likeI'm over here reading the
petals on this flower.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
But yeah, it's fun.
I do kind of want to get backinto ESO at some time.
That'd be fun.
We could start characters overand do a stream we could.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
What race would you be?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I don't remember what they are.
I'll be the kitty cat, thekajit.
I can see in the dark rightyeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I would probably be a .
Yeah, sure, I can see in thedark, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, yeah, I would probably bea, whatever the Roman one is
the imperial one, because I'mall about imperialism,
imperialism, no, I don't know.
I'd probably be a Viking,probably be a Norseman.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
You want to talk about Assassin's Creed, valhalla
?
Sure, I've never played it,neither did I, but it's a really
popular Viking game.
Yeah, I played a lot ofAssassin's Creed and then I got
up to so they have like anoverall story with a main
character named Desmond andDesmond.
Well, it's like they hadAssassin's Creed, then
Assassin's Creed 2 and thenbetween two there was like five

(47:09):
side games that all went throughthe story as well.
It was like assassin's creed,revelations and renaissance, you
know, just all these differentgames with different names in
between them.
There ends up being like thatdesmond story ends up being like
seven games, jeez, and it'slike, but it ends with three
with his character.
And then they got to get awayfrom the whole going into a

(47:31):
machine to go relive past lives,like they did.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And it was just like dropping you into just the world
, yeah, and so I kind of felloff.
After that there was a pirateone after three that I played
and after that I was done.
But then, like, after that,they start releasing these
really cool ones, like they haveassassin's creed odyssey, which
is greek mythology, and thenthey had, you know, valhalla,

(47:57):
there's one after um, there'sone that takes place in egypt,
so the egyptian mythology, andthen they just release one
that's like japanese mythology.
I'm like this is so cool, whydid I fall?
But I don't want to get backinto it.
Yeah, I have too much otherthings to do.
I know that if I get suckedback into the lore of this game
franchise I'm not going to haveany time to do anything else.

(48:20):
It just makes me so mad thatnow you do all this really cool
stuff.
Yeah, because the third one youplayed it was America and you
played as a Native Americanassassin.
America, wait what?
Yeah, it was a Native Americanwho got pulled into the Knights
Templar Interesting, sorry, notthe Templar, the Assassin's

(48:42):
Guild.
Okay, because I was going tosay the Knights Templar.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
The Templar was the enemy.
The Templar was gone beforeAmerica was founded.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
guild, okay, because I was gonna say the knights to
borrow, is the enemy was gonebefore america was founded?
Well, no, according to the uh,the, this franchise, they've
been here the whole time theknights templar yeah, the
templars, the freemasons,whatever you want.
Okay, freemasons, I was goodwell, they were referenced some
in the game series as thetemplars, okay, the whole time,
but I guess they kind of appearin different forms and names,

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but they're always the Templars.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I know that in the Freemasons you can become a
knight.
I don't know if they call themTemplars, though I did.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Just now Got it.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Take that Freemasons.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
But yeah, just Assassin's Creed, valhalla, and
it's cool because you actuallyare like rowing your long ships
into battle and it's hugemassive battles that you go into
, like Viking sieges and stuff.
Yeah, it's really cool.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, dude, that was the most daunting thing in
Valheim is when you got a boatand a sea serpent comes out of
nowhere.
Oh really, and you're like Ro.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Ro Ro and you turn around and there's nobody in the
boat with you.
Yeah, ro Ro, who you talking toMe?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, oh man, it's funny.
But yeah, do you have any moregames?
So Elder Scroll or Elder Scroll.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Age of Mythology.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Rettold, I bet you would talk about this as a
branch of the viking myths.
So if you're into strategygames, age mythology has your
viking fix for you.
It's interesting because inokay, so depending on what
nationality I guess or cultureyou pick, the gameplay is
different.
So, like for the Greeks, it's apretty standard you raise

(50:38):
villagers and they go out andcollect resources and they build
buildings and they gain favorat temples for you to be able to
create mythological units.
But for the Vikings, you createvillagers or you can get

(50:59):
dwarves to harvest materials,but they don't build buildings.
You have to all of yourinfantry units construct
buildings, wow, so they will dothe fighting and the
constructing and you gain favoras Vikings by fighting other

(51:21):
people and that's how you getmythical units.
So that's the fun thing aboutAge of Mythology is because
there's a different strategydepending on who you play,
because they each do differentthings and they unlock different
things and so, depending on howyou want to attack the game,
you have to use a certainstrategy and you have to know

(51:42):
that strategy for each decisionyou make.
So it's pretty fun.
Pretty, it's pretty fun, it'spretty neat.
Uh, do you have any other?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I think I'm gonna go into my big one.
Okay, do it, god of war god ofwar gods of.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
God of wonders beyond your galaxy, you gotta finish
it.
You are holy.
Now my one, oh sorry.
May your hammer be mighty.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Now you can finish yours.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Have we ever talked about hot rod on this show?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
We have to have.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
At some point I feel like we haven't that might be a
whole episode dedicated to thatmovie, because I feel like like
there's like those type ofcomedies like napoleon dynamite
and nacho libre.
Hot rod is in that list ofinfluential movies on our lives
yeah, quotable slapstick humoryeah.

(52:47):
We'll talk about that In someupcoming episode, maybe a mini
bonus or something, but hot rod.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Maybe that will be An episode in the future when we
talk about Slapstick comedyMovies.
Yeah, oh, that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Anyways, okay, tell me about God of War Dude, god of
War is such a good game.
So the franchise right.
Yes, it starts out as a uh,greek mythology story, kratos.
The main character is kind oflike a.
He is thrown like he's amade-up character and kind of
like later on it's kind ofinsinuated that it's an

(53:22):
alternate timeline, that becausehe has intervened and started
being part of this world, it isveered off the path of what the
mythology is going to be.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
So you're living through these moments, but
because he's intervened, so,like in the first game, you are
a soldier for Ares the god ofwar, yep, soldier for Ares the
god of war, yep, and he betraysyou and he makes you, tricks you
into killing your family,kratos, kratos' family, and so

(54:01):
the whole game is about yougoing to find Pandora's box, to
open it, to get the power todefeat Ares, becoming the god of
war.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
That's all you know, kind of like that first section
god of war, that's all you know,kind of like that first section
, god of war, which is a likespartan total warrior, totally
steals that concept.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yes, of you fighting for aries yeah, and then aries
betrayed a hundred percent.
Yeah, god of war did it first.
But so it kind of leads up toby the end of what I call the
first half of the franchise, heends up killing all the gods
because they go to war with him,with Kratos, and essentially
putting the world in turmoil.

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That's kind of how that sectionends.
That third game ends, say, withthe world in shambles, flooding
fires, tornado, everything justover, but Kratos gets his
victory.
Kratos gets his victory andgets his victory.
And it's kind of like okay, thegame franchise is over.
And then, like in 20, um,where's that?

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Yeah, uh, in like 2015.
They announce here we go again.
Like, here it is again like.
It's just like.
It's showing like a cabin.
The reveal is like one of thegreatest video game reveals of
all time, right, mm-hmm, whereit's Kratos Sorry, it's like
this boy like a little Vikingboy prepping to go on a hunt oh,

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wee, little Viking boy.
Yeah, and it's just like.
And it shows his father talkingto him in the corner and his
father stands up and is Kratosdude, and it's just like I'm
getting chills talking about.
He's like we're going to huntboy and it's kratos dude, and so
it's like, so it's kind ofinsinuated that I mean it's not
insane.
It is that kratos, after hedefeats the gods, he like he

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falls into like a flooding riverand washes ashore, yeah, and
then becomes part of the greekmythology in and kind of
interrupting that world.
And what's so great about thestark difference between the two
games, right, yes, so they'reboth hyper-violent, you know
what I mean.
They are beat-em-uphyper-violent, but God of War.

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So when I say God of War, thisis the reboot franchise now
Still continuing the story, butit reboots it.
So God of War 2018 is so muchmore of a mature story slow,
paced.
You know.
Where god of war one was kindof hyper violent, it was like,
you know, you know, almost builtfor somebody who's like over

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violence.
You know that kind of likelet's rock and roll violence
kind of thing.
You know what I mean.
This is so slow and mature andit's so great because kratos now
has a son, uh, in the in thegreek myth, like in the north
mythology.
Now he married I can't rememberher name and it just starts
there where he he married andhe's going to go for.

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His wife's last wishes is thatshe wants her ashes spread on
this mountain and is, and it'sthrough the story.
He's running into all thesedifferent greek mythology sorry
north mythology's characters,and it's just like balder and uh
, thor's sons and all this stuffand it's just, it's so good it,

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it's really just a fantasticgame.
He runs into the Acer, you say.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
And the Veneer Right, and then it's like and then it
goes into God of War, ragnarok,and it just continues from there
.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Ragnarok.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
And it's just, you know.
If you don't know what Ragnarokis, it's essentially the
catastrophic event that destroys, destroys the Acer end of days
into days.
Yeah, yes, so it starts fromthere and it's just, it's such a
great story with greatcharacters.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Do you want me to uh, you want me to play a song yes,
please about Ragnarok, as longas it doesn't flag us
copyright-wise.
Oh yeah, Well, I'm going totell everybody just go listen to
Ragnarok by what's the name ofthe guy that does the heavy

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metal Disney stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
I don't know, I'm not sure.
Well, thanks for helping me out, but while you try to find it
seriously, I'm not sure.
Well thanks, but while you tryto find it.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
You're helping me out Seriously.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
God of War and God of War Ragnarok are two some of
the best storytelling in videogames.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Peyton Parrish.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
So go check out Peyton Parrish Parrish,
parrishable items.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Parrishable items.
Oh yeah, let's see if we getthe seat, Like if that doesn't
get your chills going.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
And that's all you get.
That's all you get Because wedon't want to be stricken.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Stricken.
But, yeah, his song is talkingabout Ragnarok.
But Ragnarok, yeah, it's theVikings' end of days, where
Loki's sons or offspring attackthe Aesir and kill them, and one
of those is Jormagander, whichis the world serpent.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, which isn't that Thor kills him in the Thor
battles with him.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah, Thor battles against him.
I don't know if it's like aThor wins, but yeah, when
Ragnarok happens, he'll come upand it'll be.
It's already been decided.
Thor has to fight Jormungandr.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, so slight spoiler on Thor Ragnarok, or
just Not Thor Ragnarok we didn'teven talk about that movie at
all or Thor, the Thor movies ingeneral.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
They're good.
They're all right, except forthe fourth one, except the.
What was the fourth one?
Love and Thunder.
Oh, you didn't like that.
That movie was awful.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I thought it was all right.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Ragnarok was good though Thor Ragnarok was good
though the War of Ragnarok,ragnarok was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I don't know.
It was kind of weird, likeRagnarok was good, but then the

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director, taika Waititi, he goton this really hard trip of like
I'm going to do all the Avengermovies, yeah, like this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
They're gonna be super funny, they're gonna be
comical and emotional and yeah,they did that like where it's
like.
Okay, I think thor, uh, thorragnarok was a good blend of
that comedy, while stillsticking to thor being a great
character, and love and Thunderwent full comedy and just kind
of bashed the character Thor,making him look like a piece of
the old turd.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, because the first two Thor movies like Thor
is.
There's a little bit of humorto him, but he's a macho, yeah,
macho man.
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
then Ragnarok changes the character and then every
movie after that he's just anemotional whirlwind yeah, he's
just like well, I mean, dude,why would you take and make his
hammer like sentient and make itlike a relationship like it was
sentient and in love with thoror something?
Yeah, it's like talking about abreakup with the hammer, like

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it was sentient and in love withthor or something.
Yeah, it's like talking about abreakup with the hammer.
Like it was, it was dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
It was really dumb, it was just uh, yeah, it's just,
it's a, it's an australianthing, I think.
I don't know, I don't get it.
Uh, anyways, yeah, soyarmagander and finn rear are
the two apocalyptic charactersthat are children of Loki.
One's a giant wolf, yep, andone's a giant serpent Yep, and

(01:01:31):
the wolf, I think, kills theAesir, and the serpent battles
Thor, and I don't remember ifThor dies or what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, in Thor Ragnarok, and sorry, god of War.
In God of War Ragnarok you runinto the giant snake.
Oh, you do.
Yeah, okay, and just kind of aspoiler on those games, because
they're pretty old at this pointand if you don't want to hear
it, just skip ahead like 15seconds.
I'll be the quickest to say it.

(01:02:01):
So here's your spoiler warningskip ahead in the games because
they do that thing where Kratosbeing integrated into the world.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
So his son, atreus, is actually Loki.
That's how they do that.
Oh, so you know that's stillagain.
It's that cool of like anoutside force, you know,
meddling into a world that heshouldn't be in creates ripples
and changes.
So it's really cool, gotcha,all right, undo spoiler warning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, that's pretty neat.
Anyways, we need to wrap thisup, we do.
But, yeah, I think, do you haveany closing statements on this?
But yeah, I think Do you haveany closing statements on this?
I think my closing statement isthere's something about the
Viking, like vibe, that makes itentertaining, and I think it's

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because it produces a little bitof that carnal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Just getting back to the basics Fighting Fighting, we
fight and we survive and wethrive because we're fighting,
yeah, and we're not relying onanybody else.
That primitive thing of freespirit.
Free spirit?
Yeah, not in a hippie way, butnot like a peace and love man.

(01:03:26):
No, free spirit Like I'm goingto fight and protect and provide
for my family?
Yeah, very, you know, manlykind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, and it could be .
I think it's because the Vikingepics are translated into these
games and into these movies andshows, whereas a Viking like
you go out and you fight againstnot only other people, but you
fight against the unknown right,you know what I mean and and
you're not afraid to, and so Ithink that that's very poetic

(01:03:57):
and people hold on to that andthey're like wow, that's
exciting the people like theidea of being unbeatable, yeah
or being able to defendthemselves.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Like you don't feel like you're going to instantly
lose, like your main characterisn't going to instantly lose
the fight that they're presentedin.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, those are my closingstatements.
I think that it's just a if youdo it, if you do it the right
way you can, you can get a goodfan base for anything viking.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
yeah, just gotta do it the right way yeah, my
closing statement jesus man,jesus is better than vikings,
you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Yeah, because he will win every fight and you know
what jesus is more metal thanvikings god is doing it not that
song god is doing a new thing.
Think about this Jesus dies asthe perfect.
He's a perfect atonement, right.
He willingly offers his life upas atonement for all of

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humanity, all of creation.
He dies and goes into the graveatoning all sin for humanity
and is in the grave for threedays.
And it's believed that he goesand fights and conquers sin,
death, hell in the grave, and sohe's in battle for three-ish

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days and then resurrects in hisown ability, resurrects from the
dead and says I've won, he'sthere because he's like I'm
going to fight but I can leaveat any point, but I'm here to
fight.
Yeah, yeah, I'm here to kickbutt and chew bubble gum and I'm
all out of bubble gum.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Also, by the way, real quick, we talked about that
movie a couple weeks ago.
Was it last week?
Last week?
Yeah, they Live, it's calledthey Live, they Live, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
And real quick.
Also, I was half wrong.
You were half wrong and alsohalf right.
I said that movie was full,black and white.
The movie was only black andwhite when he put on the
sunglasses.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Oh yeah, because it's kind of like the infrared deal
and that's where he could see hecould see what they actually
were.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
They actually were, yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
There you go, all right.
Well, that's all we got forVikings, guys, let us know in
the comments what you think ofVikings.
What's your favorite Vikingmedia?
Right, right, what's everybodyout there doing?
Gaming or watching, or whatever?
So yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
So, yeah, thank you for joining us on this episode
39 of the saints that servepodcast that's right and I say
that Christ is King but Christis also Lord and the kingdom is

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now.
We are the saints that serve.
Way to mess up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Your only been doing it 39 times, 39 weeks, 50 plus
bonus content, and you can'teven remember how to do your own
outro figure it out.