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June 30, 2025 • 85 mins

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📱 Screen Time vs. Scripture: Is Tech Taking Over Our Faith?
This week, Gen Z youth minister Ethan joins us to talk about the spiritual impact of screen time. With Millennials averaging 7+ hours a day and Gen Z pushing 9, we ask: What are we trading in when we trade time with God for time on our phones?

🥤 "Do the Dew or Don’t" Game
We test Ethan’s soda smarts with a Mountain Dew flavor guessing game-because sometimes you need a little fun before diving deep!

📵 Real Stories from Phone-Free Teens
Ethan shares powerful moments from Young Life camps where teens give up their phones and find real freedom, connection, and clarity.

🤖 Is AI the New Idol?
When people look to AI for comfort, advice, and guidance, is it quietly replacing God? We explore how digital tools can become spiritual distractions.

đź‘» Cryptid Corner: The Glowcaster Ghoul
This eerie legend leads us into a convo about spiritual darkness and what happens when God’s light is missing from our communities.

📴 Maybe it’s time for a phone fast. Could disconnecting help you reconnect with God?

🙏 We pray for our listeners every Friday—send your requests to saintsthatserve@gmail.com.

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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each
week, your hosts dive into thecrossroads of faith, culture and
the unknown.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.
We are the Saints that Serve.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
That is, the Saints that Serve, podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
With your hosts.
I'm Johnny and I'm Jairus.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Same guys every time.
If you listened to this lastweek or the week before that,
it's always us, Except for thatone random episode where you
weren't there.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
To all our Russian listeners we love you.
Thanks for tuning in, and we'rethe same people that have been
doing this 42 times, Becausethis is episode 42.
That's right, baby.
Welcome to episode 42.
We actually have a specialepisode.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We haven't done this in a minute but When's the last
time we've done this?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's been a while I mean it's been since.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Since you were sick and we had like three weeks
where you weren't here.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, whatever that was, it wasbeginning of the end of the
spring, so probably episode like20, something Been a while.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's been a while.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Anyways, to get through all that, we have a
guest with us today.
We finally have a guest, andhis beautiful and brave name is
Mr Ethan.
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
What's up, guys?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
What's up?
So we have a little bit of atradition.
There's a dice in front of you.
It's a 20-sided dice.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Casting lots.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So go ahead and roll it, casting lots.
Tell me what it is.
What number is that?
A four?
A four, number four Okay, inthe most doinkity voice you can
just the most unput-together,un-understandable voice, you can
say episode 42.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Hold on before you do .
Was that like on your littleword calendar, did you?
You know you like Doinkity.
Doinkity is that your word ofthe day?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, that's my word of the day.
I was going to ask you todefine doinkity Like not put
together Pretend.
We wouldn't be able tounderstand you too well without
an interpreter.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Pretend your voice is made of rubber bands.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
If I did a foreign accent would that be offensive?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
No, because that's like okay, if you're from that
part of the world, then theywould understand you, but this
is like you're your own worldand no one understands you.
Episode 42.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Episode 42.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, mike Tyson, be careful around.
Yeah, I don't know what you'retrying to say.
Yeah, don't get close to my ear.
Yeah, don't try to whisper whatyou said in my ear, anyways.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I was wondering what all that loud roaring was in the
back of your car when you gothere.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
That would be the rocks from your gravel driveway.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
What do tigers dream of?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Anyway.
So we yeah, it's episode 42.
We've got a bunch of episodesand bonus content you can listen
to on anywhere you get yourpodcasts.
We recommend you go to YouTubeand listen to some of our
content there, because we've gota live video going on with this
recording, so there's picturesand different things going on,

(03:34):
and then we also have livestream worships that are
recorded in on YouTube so youcan go and watch those as well.
So make sure you check that out.
And every Friday we pray foryou.
So if you need prayer foranything, you can reach out to
us either through social mediaor there's a direct SMS
messaging link at the bottom ofthe description for this show.
There's also an email that youcan reach out to us.

(03:56):
It's saints that serve atgmailcom.
Again, that's saints that serveat gmailcom.
Let us know if you need prayerand that's it as far as
announcements go.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
So, ethan, tell us about yourself.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh man, what do you want to know?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Everything.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I'm 22.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I'm the only one who parties.
He's apparently the only onewho parties.
Well.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm 22.
I was raised here out of Dallas, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Dally guy, that's fine.
He didn't give a street address.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
He lives at 1234 Fake Street.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I met Johnny when I was 15 and then we started
Playing Ultimate Frisbeetogether.
Yeah, Our first hangout.
I said, hey, let's go throwback a couple slices of pizza at
Stevie B's.
Heck, yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Stevie B's the only real place to have a birthday
party when you're in your 30s.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
But I just realized I'm a who am I?
It's a good question, becausewe often try to a who am I?
It's a good question Cause,like we often try to like who am
I?
Who am I?
Based on the things that I door you know, living through
other people, maybe like who amI?
I'm a follower of Jesus.
Amen, that is a huge.
I got saved whenever I was 14.
He gave me a new identity.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
So, like last year, yeah, you're just a baby, I'm
just a boy.
So like last year yeah, you'rejust a baby, I'm just a boy,
just a little boy but changed mylife when I was 14.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Got baptized in Daytona Beach and then, yeah,
he's given me a passion for theyouth, the next generation, just
really entering into theirbrokenness and teaching them
that Jesus wants to meet them intheir brokenness too.
I've been doing youth ministrysince I graduated high school.

(05:51):
Discipled a group of middleschool boys all the way
throughout, and then I starteddoing Young Life ministry.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Young Life- Is that what shirt you're wearing?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
That is the shirt that I'm wearing.
This is actually the shirt fromwhenever I went to camp,
whenever I was 15.
Wow, still fits.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
He's just a boy last year, so you know.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Young life is.
It's just that ministry, kindof how Jesus did it, where he
meets people where they're atkind of in their broken places
and just ask them hey, what'syour name, you know what's your
story, and through that buildtrust, build relational equity
and through that introduce themto Christ and the good news.
And that's kind of what I haddone to me and I've had awesome
people in my life who have ledme to the king in multiple

(06:29):
different seasons, and this guyon my left has been one of them.
So yes.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
We love discipleship, so sweet.
Yeah, I do love discipleship, Ithink it's great.
I think more people should doit.
You know what I mean.
You know what I mean.
You know what I mean, Vern.
I know exactly what you mean.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
So what do you like?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
to do for fun, ooh.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Besides break your knee.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Another story for a little bit later what I do for
fun.
I love fly fishing.
That has become a really greathobby of mine.
Camping I love going on randombig trips in different states to
different young life camps fora weekend, but then, you know,
while I'm there for the weekend,maybe go to a national park or
go do this and that, get to goto colorado in a month and go

(07:13):
see uh whoa places out there,which is going to be awesome.
So yeah, I just love.
I love being outside in nature,I love spending time with
friends and, um, you know justwhether that's a coffee.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You like going on adventures.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Hey, Charlie Candy Mountain.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Charlie.
Hey, we showed that video toour son for the first time.
Really To Bigfoot.
We were watching it like dyinglaughing, and he's watching and
he's like, okay, okay, right,he's like they just want.
Like, okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
He's like they just want to go to Candy Mountain.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, and then at the very end, when you know like
the kicker, big punchline at theend, big punchline at the end,
we're like, oh, totally forgotabout that.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh they took my kidneys.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, messed up Anyways.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
So yeah, messed up anyways.
So yeah, you like beingoutdoors.
Outdoors, love spent time withmy girlfriend.
He's uh super awesome currentlyin recovery right now, so I'm
trying to tell myself myfavorite thing is uh rehabbing
my uh herd acl and uh yeah.
So yeah, it's kind of it's beena little bit of a different
season.
I can't really do a lot of thethings that I love doing, but
you know, I get you.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yep, I uh.
I used to be an adventurer likeyou once, until I took an arrow
to the knee is that you?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
are you the guy from skyrim?
Cue the viking?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
music there we go all right.
Yeah, that's awesome.
We love that you're here.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Thank you for coming.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
We love your journey, so we're going to get into
tonight's main topic.
So, tyler, this is yourtransition, are we, though?
Do you want to do the gamefirst?
Let's do the game first.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, never mind, tyler, rewind we are going to
transition into a mini game thatwe're going to play.
Tyler, here's your transitioninto Do the do or don't.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So I have.
You know how Mountain Dew hassome wacky flavors and if you
don't that's even's even better.
Yeah, they come out withbizarre flavor names like names
and the flavors are just likethe wackiest stuff, like they
might be like limited edition orjust something that they have
always yeah but like banana dogfruit flavor, you know yeah,

(09:38):
just some wacky off the like,off the toss like but, butt,
like butt, like Mountain Dewbutt.
But so I have a list of 20 here.
Okay, and I'm going to read youoff this Mountain Dew flavor
name.
I'm going to give a descriptionand you're going to have to
tell me, both of y'all, whetheror not that's real or something
I made up.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
So right now we have as number one Cherry Inferno
Sweet cherry up front, followedby cinnamon spice afterburn.
What do you think Is that fakeor is that real?
It sounds pretty legit I thinkit's fake.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It is fake.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Perfection.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh yeah, baby.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Nailed it.
I'm going to make note of whogot that one right.
Hold on, oh okay, baby Nailedit.
I'm going to make note of whogot that one right.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Hold on, oh okay, okay.
Well, I guess while you'redoing that, I can just make fun
of Ethan.
Looks to me like you're on thewrong side of the river.
Should have done better.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Should have done better, should have known your
Mountain Dew flavors.
We have number two here,mountain Dew Voltage.
We have number two here,mountain Dew Voltage, that's
charged with raspberry, citrusand ginseng for a jolt of energy
.
That is a flavor I'm dialing itin Regis Ethan Fake, it's real,

(11:01):
yeah, boy.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I feel like I can't agree with you Nailed it.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You got to do the opposite of what I say.
That's okay.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I'm okay with winning .
We know which one of you ishealthy and don't drink Mountain
Dew.
Yeah, we know which one of youhas your life together.
Number three Solar Shock.
That is a citrus and pineapplepunch meant to mimic a summer
sunshine.
Solar Shock, fake.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think it's legit Solar Shock.
I'm dialing it in to yes.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Not real.
It's not real.
Dang it.
Mission failed.
We'll get a mixed order Unreal.
Now we have thrashed apple,thrashed apple.
That is a bold burst of sourgreen apple with a crisp finish.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I'm going to say no, sir, that is not a flavor.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
You don't like it, not feeling it, so you're both
saying fake, fake, that's real.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Unreal, like it, not not feeling it.
So you're both saying fake,fake.
That's real, unreal.
The green, the green apple mademe a little skeptical.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't know why.
So number five is citrus stormhigh voltage citrus flavor with
a twist of grapefruit.
Is that real or fake?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I like, like it.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
No, I'm going to say no.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
That is made up, perfection.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
We're not perfection right now.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Neither one of y'all are perfect now.
No, I'm the only one whoparties Purple Thunder.
Hairy plum meets smooth vanilla.
Bold and stormy purple thunderI don't like it.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Fun fact this may or may not be exclusive to circle k
I don't like it I don't likethat circle k guys um, now that
said that, I feel like I'm beingtrapped into it, but I'll go
ahead and say, yeah, it's a realflipper, it's real.
Come on, don't be crazy.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Is that Nacho Libre?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yes, we had an episode last week not last week,
a couple of weeks ago where wetalked about Nacho Libre.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, I mean we talked about Nacho libre.
Well, I mean we talked aboutnacho libre for single to mile
so wow, man, that's been foreverago now that you say it.
Last week's episode we talkedabout slapstick comedy, so it
came up again.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
So yeah, we're having fun here fitting, yeah, number
seven supernova a fizzy fusionof strawberry and kiwi with a
light spark.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
That is a flavor.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I've had it before.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
You've had it before you sure you've had this before
this guy, are you sure?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Are you trying to tell us it's fake or what?
No, it's real.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay, nailed it Lava Berry, fiery raspberry with a
hint of jalapeno heat.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
That is.
I like it.
Oh, we got a trash cat in thehouse.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
We got a guest and trash cat come back.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I guarantee you he came into the house with the
intentions to go back there tolay down and go to sleep.
But now that he saw the wordhere, he's like oh hang out,
I'll lay right here.
Here you go, anyways, go,anyways.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
yeah, so it's legit yeah, the lava berry, lava berry
.
You think it's real, I knowit's real all right like it, you
like it.
Yeah, y'all both got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's fake I miss, I'm I like the raspberry.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
The raspberry really seemed fitting for the lava.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I just was thinking, okay, we're going to do it.
I think next week we're goingto talk about Mountain Dew
flavors and natural disastersthat happen.
A little hint for next week, alittle hint for next week's
corner.
But there's a conspiracy thatMountain Dew predicts when a
disaster is going to happen, beit natural or other, based off

(15:06):
their flavor name, and they putit in the flavor name.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I thought that was the Simpsons.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean Simpsons do that stuff too.
But, like when the Mauiwildfires happened, before that,
Mountain Dew came out with aMaui burst flavor for Mountain
Dew and there's been a coupleother ones it's been.
It's a little convincing.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Number nine Sweet Lightning Sweet.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Lightning.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
A smooth blend of peach and honey made exclusively
for a certain chicken chain.
What?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You didn't sell me.
I don't believe it, I mean isit Church's?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
You have to guess the chicken chain.
Is it Church's?
No, it's KFC.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Allegedly Kentucky fried chicken.
Yeah, I'll go with it, I'll sayyes.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
What did you say, ethan?
You didn't sell me, you didn't.
Well, I sold John because it'sreal Perfection.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Oh yeah, baby.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You don't want to talk about what?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Losing.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh, hey, hey, I just dropped a mountain dew, number
10.
Atomic citrus Glowing greensoda with ultra calcified lime
and guava.
Atomic citrus.
Atomic citrus, atomic citrus?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I don't know.
I feel like that's a little tooon the nose.
I can't think of any atomicevents that have happened, jeez.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Is that why you're doing so good at this game?
Yeah, I'm thinking about You'vebeen following you've been
following this.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
He's thinking about a past-.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Could this relate to something that's happened?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I kind of liked it.
I think you're going off in theweeds.
I like it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm going to say no.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's fake.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, this game just wasn't for me.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm realizing how often I just stare blindly into
the coolers at gas stations.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's too radioactive to be real.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
That was one thing.
I never became a soda drinker.
That was the one thing.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
One vice that you didn't give in to.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, I didn't like the carbonation.
It made my mouth burn.
It made me burp the first timeI took a sip.
These drinks too spicy.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, no, it's spicy.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Saved me from cavities for 22 years.
But I just went to the dentistthree days ago.
I had a cavity.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
You just start chewing remineralizing gum.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Heard about the remineralizing stuff.
I've been doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
It is legit For real.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, I used to get some pretty gnarly cavities
gnarly cavities and uh, it'sbecause all that mountain dew
you've been drinking.
Yeah, we can talk about that onjohnny's other podcast.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Because heidold holistic, holistic, holistic,
holiness holistic holiness,that's not real yet.
Yet number 11 frostbite I'msorry, just to go back to that,
what if we did that?
What if we did a segment thatwe called Holistic Holiness?
But it's just me making healthadvice up just on the fly, just

(18:12):
something that's not been triedor tested or anything.
Put it on the list of bits, ifyou chop up fresh jalapenos and
you mix them in with any kind ofmeat.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Wait, wait start over , and now we're going to move on
to our next segment holisticholiness with your host, john if
you take, okay, we'll workshopit.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
All right, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Number 11 frostbite cool, cool and sharp.
This flavor hits with a blastof icy melon.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yes, frostbite.
Yeah, I'm gonna call it.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Let's go with it.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
You're both saying yes, yes, it's exclusive to
Walmart.
It's real Perfection.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Heck yeah, high five.
Oh, you grabbed my hand Gross.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, no, I'm just kidding.
Didn't want your hand either.
You got salmon all over yourhands.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, did you wash your hands?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
after that fish, after you ate salmon.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Is it?
Salmon, or salmon your handsare just naturally greasy like
that.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
My hands just naturally Alaskan like that.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
No offense to anyone listening in Alaska?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
No one's listening in Alaska All right, then we can
make fun of them.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
You're the one who just told me you just came from
Alaska to catch that fish.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
No, my wife did on our private plane, because we
have that, because we have thatkind of budget, yep.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's the reason that we do all the legwork for
the podcast.
We're spending all our money ona private plane.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
On a private plane to fly to Alaska to get some
salmon for dinner.
Yeah, nice.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Listen, we'll do all the labor for the podcast.
We're not going to hire anyemployees, but the plane is a
non-negotiable.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Number 12, Kraken Cola, Dark cola with notes of
black cherry and a mysterioussea salt.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Finish Okay so you're cracking, as in the
mythological creature from theocean.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes, but you're also cracking a cold one.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
When you first said it, it sounded just like you
were just saying like yeah,let's pop open a cola.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
What I'm amazed at is if you did not use AI to come
up with these descriptions forthese, and if you actually came
up, then I'm very impressed andyou should maybe put in an
application for Mountain Dew.
This is AI, One hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Let's just pull the curtain back.
We made this up right beforeyou got here.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, we had a different idea and we very
quickly came up with this ideaand then used ChatGPT to build
it out quickly.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
We had another plan we were working out and then you
called us and said you wererunning late.
And we're like you know what?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Let's do this instead A little peek behind the
curtain, like any idea me andJohn come up with that are
usually the best is one that wecome up with and just start
working on on the spot.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Like our old skit.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's not planned ahead by weeks or anything, it's
just in the moment.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
We have a old like skit comedy sketch I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I need to get this off my chest, that's the best
one.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You think that's the best one, my favorite one I've
ever seen from you guys.
I hate that video so much.
The YouTube videos, no.
But like the Shaka Khan video,like our second video, like John
just came to me.
He's like, hey, I got a videoidea, let's do this real quick.
And we do it.
15,000 views.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, that one gets the most views out of all the
ones, even the ones that we putlike two days of work.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Like we have videos that we've put like weeks into
and there's like one view.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
And then this one video has 15,000 views on it.
So sad.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
It took us 30 minutes to do it.
30 minutes.
And most of the time was tryingto make a somewhat believable
cattle pro.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Right Anyway.
Hey, no one's using this fan.
Right Clip, yeah, the tip offof the plug.
Yeah, crack and cola guys.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Crack and clip.
Yeah, the tip off of the plug.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, kraken Cola guys.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Kraken Cola, I'm gonna say I'm a fan, you're a
fan, I'm a fan of this one.
Kraken Mountain Dew the lingo.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm gonna say no, sounds parody, but it's also
pure fiction, it's fake nexttime, buddy, you'll get them
next time this one's just oneword Spark.
Yes, pink lemonade flavor witha zing of raspberry Wait.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Zing.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It's spark, but it's Mountain Dew Spark, mountain Dew
, spark.
Yes, Just so we're clear.
All these flavors are MountainDew.
Then the name yes, I shouldhave clarified that earlier.
I keep on forgetting to say Iwas like you mean mountain dew,
whatever, whatever.
Yeah, mountain do spark.
Okay with it.
Sure it's real heck.

(22:54):
Yeah man, oh yeah man.
I'm so good at this game, ohI'm the best at this game.
I'm like I I'm in first place,I think it's that of two players
.
Ethan's over here, like yeah,but I'm healthy.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Ethan currently is in third on this game.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Ouch, I really.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Trash Cat's beating you.
He said meow-ton-do,meow-ton-do.
Midnight Mango, a dark tropicalblend of mango and black tea.
I think that that is it.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, it sounds.
Midnight Mango soundslegitimate.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
It sounds marketable.
You think Sounds verymarketable?
Has the alliteration going on?
Yeah, it's fake, dang.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, now we know they should do it.
It's marketable.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Phantom Freeze, a ghostly combo of white peach and
lemon lime.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
No shot.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Supposedly only appears in October.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Phantom Fanta no.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Phantom Freeze.
I don't do Phantom Freeze.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Only in October.
I I'm gonna give it a chance.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's fake oh, why would?
Why would they make a flavorthat rivals with another soda?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
phantom, not phantom sounds too similar okay,
cracking coke.
Well, the cracking cola wasfake.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, the Kraken Cola was fake, it was yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I'm finding Okay, I'm seeing the connections.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Finding patterns.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I've got my eyes on you, ChatGPT.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Alright, so you okay, Code red Um A cherry-infused
twist.
Yeah, I'm thinking that.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
A cherry-infused twist?
Yeah, I'm thinking that.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
A cherry-infused twist.
Shut your mouth.
No correct your answer.
You're going to look reallysilly in the comments.
It is an actual flavor.
It's very famously real.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's a very famous like gamer you can tell how much
of a non-soda drinker I am.
You don't have to be a sodadrinker.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
You just have to walk down an aisle of Walmart.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I was just testing how familiar you are with this
flavor.
Obviously it's real.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Alright, I'm gonna give y'all both this one.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yay, thanks for the setup there.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, I was just.
I mean, you literally have towalk into any GameStop in the
past decade and see Mountain DewCode Red.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
To be, honest, I've never had mountain dew like I
don't even we're gonna have tohave you on a guest as a guest
again, and you drink your firstmountain dew on the show okay,
I've had doritos.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Does that make me?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
or we can do the cup makes you eating nasty chips we
can do the coke pepsi challenge,but do it mountain dew and then
whatever the other mountain dew.
And what is coca-cola'scompetitor's competitor?
It's like a citrus, mellowYellow.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
There we go.
It's Mellow Yellow, so we'llget a Mountain Dew and a Mellow
Yellow, and you have to guesswhich is which.
Okay, we'll have you on soon,okay.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
See you in six months .

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Baja Gold Almost had you there, didn't I Baja Gold,
no, no.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Absolutely not Fake.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
A pineapple infused version of baja blast fake
actually.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think that is.
I think that I think they didcome out with that.
It's real.
I think it ain't because it didnot like no baja blast.
I've heard that one before yeah, but I think baja gold, they
did do it, but it did not dowell because nobody liked the
pineapple.
Pineapple is a very risky thingto do like yeah, I feel like

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pineapple does.
It's not a blend for justanything like.
It's got to be a very specificthing I've got number 18 here.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Moon mist, a cosmic blend of liche lemon and
blueberry Liche.
L-y-c-h-e-e Leche Leche.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Leche, leche.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Lechen.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
There's no way the Mountain Dew put leche in their
drink.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
That's way too bougie .

Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, there's no way, it's fake.
Thank you.
Leche is a Latin drink and it'sgoat milk, sugar and cinnamon.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Now we got to make it .

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Why are you laughing at?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
that A Latin drink.
Latins they're not real.
They don't drink, they don'tconsume liquids.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
We have Livewire, an electrifying orange citrus soda
that first launched in thesummer.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
No.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Isn't that a different soda name Livewire I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
You tell me, no, you tell me, you tell me.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Didn't you say like electric something earlier?
Like I don't think they wouldhave done two of them.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Livewire, mountain Dew, livewire.
I could see it, I'm not.
I don't think they would havedone two of them.
Live wire, mountain Dew, livewire.
I could see it, not a fan.
I'm trying to think of ifthere's another soda, though,
called live wire.
Maybe I'm mixing up lime wire,which is the streaming service,
which is the piracy.
Lime wire.
Yeah, you know I'll give it achance.

(28:03):
So you're saying no, no?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's real Perfection.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Every single time we.
I think I've gotten one Onetime that I've disagreed with
Johnny Alright.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Some things I'm just born for.
You know what I mean.
Last one, like this, is when Ibelieve in predestination.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
I was born to know the do.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Because I do the do.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Dragon Fruit Frenzy.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I'm going to do Dragon Fruit Frenzy.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
An exotic dragon fruit and kiwi combo with an
extra kick of caffeine.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I don't think that they would do the actual like
fruit name Dragon Fruit Frenzy.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Or that they would put extra caffeine in this drink
.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, they would definitely do that, you'd be
surprised.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I'm not familiar.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
They have an entire sub-brand of it.
That's literally that.
It's like hey, you've gotMountain Dew, but now there's an
energy drink, Mountain Dew.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Is it real or not?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
guys, I'm going to give it a wait.
What was it?
Mountain Dew Dragon FruitFrenzy.
Guys, I'm gonna give it a wait.
What was it?
Uh, mountain dew dragon fruitfrenzy yes I'm gonna say no,
ethan.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I feel like I'm gonna regret it, but I'm gonna say no
I'm gonna, I'm gonna side withthe beard of wisdom here, the
beard of wisdom.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now I'm definitely getting it wrong no, you're not,
it's really, it's fake, yeah,fiction so tie, yeah, that was a
tie on that Fiction.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Is that a tie?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, that was a tie.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
On that one particular answer yes, you got a
tiebreaker.
No hold on.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
This next round's worth 10,000 points.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Mountain Dew, baja Blast.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Is it real or is it fake?
Fake?
Hold on just a second.
Okay, all right, go ahead andgive us the last flavor.
Oh no, no, tell it, just say itagain.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Mountain Dew, baja Blast Fake.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm going to tell you right now, brother this is the
most realest real things you'veever heard in your entire life
that my sir is real.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
That is.
That's my favorite Mountain Dewflavor.
It's very good.
It's only served in Taco Bellsand in the summer at a Kroger.
You can get it in a bottle.
My work just recently startedstocking it in the vending
machine.
Whoa, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I was in a gas station trying to just get water
and this guy walked up to meand he's like you know, if you
take that blue Powerade and youmix it with Mountain Dew, it's
Baja Blast.
And I was like, oh, that's cool.
He's like yeah, man, that's allit is, it's just blue Powerade.
And he walked off.

(30:40):
I was like, oh man, I justwanted water.
It was so funny.
He was just over there likelooking at the machine, like
going back and forth tweaking alittle bit.
He's like you look like youlike mountain dew.
Did you know how to make bajablast on your own?
Anyways, yeah, so that was.
Uh.
What did we title that?

(31:01):
Do the do or don't, or don't.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Good game.
Where'd it go?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
GG.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I'm counting up the numbers to see who won.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Oh, come on, we don't have to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Come on, Don't be crazy.
I mean no offense.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I like the Talladega Nights sound bits a little bit
better.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
All right so.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Talladega Nights.
I don't think I've done aTeledigga Nights.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'm on Jack Devil, mountain Dew.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Oh yeah, I'm on Jack Devil.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Mountain Dew.
Yeah, if you're not first,you're last.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I was high when I said that.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Unreal.
So I don't know if there's likethere's no way to build up who
won this at all.
Johnny had 15.
That's not bad.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
No, I mean it's half, you got a 75.
We can tell who drinks MountainDew and who doesn't.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
You know what that was?
Some good math.
Good job on your 75%.
I sat there and I'm thinkinglike I got a 40.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, it is, I got a 40.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Good math, quick maths, quick maths.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
We did it guys job.
Do the do or don't, do the door don't.
All right, tyler, this is yourtransition.
We're going to go into our maintopic for tonight.
So the main reason that we haveethan here with us is because
he is a generation after us.
He's of the generation gen z.

(32:32):
He's just a baby, yep.
So he's our token Gen Z-er.
Because Janelle had to go toGuatemala, guatemala.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Guatemala.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
So Ethan's here and we don't know any other young
people.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
So you're boy Janelle ?
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
You're just a boy, you're Janelle.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'm just a little boy .

Speaker 2 (32:58):
So, anyways, what we're going to be talking about
is app usage and the differencesbetween Gen Z and millennials
and their app usage.
So, yeah, we're just going toget right into it and kind of
just talk about what are appswe're using, what are apps
generally used by differentgenerations?
So in my research that thegenerational like the top three

(33:22):
apps for millennials are youtube, instagram and facebook.
Those are kind of the top threeand it's because millennials
like really Really, you haveFacebook on yours.
Yeah, for millennials.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I don't have that on mine.
Oh yeah, I do.
I'm sorry, it's just not ashigh on my list.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, they like to use a lot of social media apps,
and then they'll do shoppingapps.
So those are the top two.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I'm going to argue with you.
It's right now.
Okay, you really think thatmillennials are using Facebook
at all?
My list says Instagram, YouTubeand TikTok.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
So general usage, okay.
So yeah, this is where thedifference is.
I should have clarified.
I think it's still used butlike it's Most of users on
Facebook are millennials.
80% of usage on Facebook is bymillennials.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Really.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, so they may not be using it as much as other
apps, but they're the mostactive generation on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I think it's used for events and contacting the older
generation.
That's on Facebook.
Still, I'm just reading to youthe stats that I have.
I'm reading to you the statsthat I have.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just saying you stats
that I have.
I'm reading to you the stats Ihave.
I'm not trying to, I'm justsaying I'm gonna argue no, that
it's not.
It's probably not the most usedapp by millennials, but the
most activity on the app is bymillennial.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Okay, I could, I could get, I could get behind
that yeah, and the second one isyoutube.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's most like.
The most people on it using itis 70% millennials.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I don't feel.
I feel like that YouTube is oneof those just why, like,
everybody uses YouTube.
Yeah, like there's nogeneration that isn't using
YouTube for one reason oranother.
Yep, yep, no generation thatisn't using YouTube for one
reason or another.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yep, yep, so, and I put Instagram 50% use is by
millennials, so those are thetop three and that's how like.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
That's pretty high, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I think it'd be a lot less.
This study was done two, threeyears ago, so it's not truly
accurate anymore.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I feel like that there's going to be a gap.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Especially after the TikTok deal, when TikTok went
down.
I think Gen Z is starting tomove over to other apps.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Well, TikTok's still around.
I mean it's still around in theUnited States You're talking
about, for that one day it gottaken down.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well, but if you didn't have it, you can't get it
now.
You got grandfathered in.
No, you got grandfathered in no, you can still.
You can still get it.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Oh, I was lied to.
I don't know how true that isnow, because you are right, I
forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
It was a thing and I thought it was, but I had to for
the surgery that I just got.
Tiktok is actually a reallygood tool for being able to see
people's recovery and like, hey,this is how my recovery, this
is what I did, these are thethings that we got.
So I did a lot of stuff onTikTok, downloading and looking
at stuff, so you can still getTikTok.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, did you have TikTok?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Prior to no, I started using it in high school
and then it just it was too much.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
But you had an account at one point.
Is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
And I still have an account, I just don't have the
app.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
The thing is that's what I'm saying is, if you
didn't have an account, okay,well then, that might be Maybe,
yeah, maybe If you go back andre-download it, you won't be
able to Create an account.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
You can't create a new account.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
No, I don't even think you can download the app
If you had the app before theban.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
You could keep using the app.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, that's still happening or not?
Yeah, so there's some of thosestats that I pulled.
You can get them on.
It's called appa appassemblecom.
Yeah.
And then I've got some appusage.
We've talked about this inprevious.
Actually, this is back.
I think like episode two orthree.
We talked about screen timeusage, so we can talk about that
a little bit.
But what I would like to dofirst is for us to look at our

(37:16):
personal app usage On our phone.
Pull out our phone On our phone.
So everybody, pull out yourphone, go to your.
What's it called?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's in your settings somewhere.
Screen time.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah screen time, go to settings.
If you have an iPhone, you goto your settings app and then
you go down to screen time, goto settings.
If you have an iphone, you goto your settings app and you go
down to screen time and then atthe very top it'll give you a
usage and you can look at either48 hours or 10 days.
So I'll go and give mine realquick, the top three apps that I
used my, according to mybattery life for the last 10

(37:50):
days and this was done like aweek ago, but for a 10-day span.
Number one was YouTube at 29%,number two was Instagram at 16%
and number three was Facebook at11%.
So they had me red on thatstatistic.
But to give that an hours 31hours on YouTube in 10 days.

(38:13):
12, almost 13 hours onInstagram in 10 days.
Nine and a half hours onFacebook in 10 days.
That is my screen usage for mytop three apps.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I can find mine on the week.
Do you have an iPhone?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I've got an iPhone.
Okay, I can find mine for theweek.
Do you have a?
You have an iPhone.
I've got my yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I've got an iPhone, okay, I can find mine for the
week.
I can't find a 10 day thing.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh, I don't know why I'm.
I don't know, I don't know whatit takes.
It just said when I pulled itup, you're just being better
than me.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So I am on the Apple developer beta for the new OS
that comes out in like fourmonths, bougie, so I'm using
that.
It erased all my stat data andturned off that setting.
So I have no data on my phone.
Are you serious?
Yeah, there's nothing there.
I just turned it back on Unreal.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I have no data, I can tell you that he doesn't use
his phone, though what?
You just doesn't use his phone,though.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
What?
You just don't use a phone,then?
No, I use my phone.
Oh, he's on his phone.
No, the setting got turned offto track that information.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm trying to make you look good.
Oh, thanks, guy.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I can tell you my three is Facebook, tiktok and
YouTube.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Okay.
So, what about you, sir I?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
would say, my number one is going to be YouTube,
number two is actually messages.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Hmm, he talks a lot.
No, he types a lot.
He types a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Sir types a lot.
Well, I think something thatcould be different and we
haven't gotten into it yet.
But the voice memos I do a lotof voice memos himself correct.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, how is that useful like?
How do you utilize that and howdoes that, how do you make that
as a tool that's useful for you?

Speaker 3 (40:06):
um, I would just say, specifically in my relationship
, whenever my girlfriend shegoes on break, she'll just me,
hey, this is what's going onthis and that, and then she'll
give me a quick update.
Or I'm driving down the road, Idon't have time to get into a
full conversation, but hey,here's the updates, here's the
highlights.
Boom, talk to you later.
I gotcha um so strictly justcommunication yes, for the most

(40:30):
part, just given the highlights.
Or if there's a long text thatI want to write, but hey, maybe
it's not an appropriate time tocall, then I can send something
and kind of you know for work.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
But that is so when you're sending that, you are
doing the text.
I mean speech to text or just afull voice memo.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
It's like a press record and then boom starts
recording me, and then it sendsas an audio recording.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
So I'll do the same thing if I'm driving, but I'll
do a voice to text, and it'salways hilarious because it
always gets it wrong.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
It's so wrong.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
But I love that more.
Sending that to my wife, Ithink it's funnier because she
knows that, like, if it'ssomething wacky, I'm not typing
it, I'm talking it, yeah yeah,it looks like youtube messages
and then youtube music and, um,I throw in a little bonus chat.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Gbt is number four there we go.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's what I was looking for.
I was about to ask what is thenumber one used ai app on
y'all's phone.
Oh, chat, gbt, gbt, same for meI mean, is there really?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I mean, I mean, I know there's others.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I was using the Google one for a minute, but
it's Gemini Gemini's, so farbehind.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
DeepSeek.
Deepseek is a good one, butit's a security breach.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Google has like one built into their search engine.
That just won.
Gemini is built into the searchengine.
You now have the option toactually talk to Gemini on the
web browser when you start doingGoogle searches now.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, and anytime you do a Google search, it will
pull up a summary for you at thevery top of the page where you
can scroll down and look at thedifferent options.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well, on top of that, now it's just like ChatGPT,
where you can ask AI questionsand prompts.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
So yeah, man.
Ai questions and prompts yeahso yeah, man.
But I know that's a kind of atouchy subject for some people
AI and kind of what it's doingto us and what it's going to do
to us, kind of a deal.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I think if we want to get on that topic real quick,
let's talk about it real quick.
It has a great capability ofbeing damaging to our society,
but not in the way that peoplepicture AI Like.
If you watch talk aboutTerminator, is it going to take
over?
Not like robots taking over,you know, wiping humanity out.

(42:46):
It's going to be moredetrimental because it's getting
to the point where it's gettingbetter and better about
creating images and you don'tknow if it's real or not.
I think we'll get to a pointwhere information is just going
to be flat out wrong on officialplaces and official things
being posted not a war humanityagainst robots, but an

(43:12):
information war of sorts, whereit's just like we don't know who
we're talking to on the phone.
It's going to get to that pointwhere we don't know if this is
a real person.
I heard where scammers aresending you know, making
themselves sound like yourgrandma to get you to send money

(43:32):
to the scammers.
Yeah, Stuff like that.
Like I think that it's going tobe used in ways we don't see in
movies.
But on the flip side of that,yes, we use this on the podcast
to create this show, but wedon't utilize it to fully make
the show AI.
We utilize it for informationas a tool to create things, but

(43:55):
we are still us.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I will say that I only use AI to try and make the
simple little pictures for oursocial media posts, like, if I
don't have a real picture that Ican use, like for the live
stream or something, it's just aepisode, whatever episode,
whatever is out, I'll usually doan AI image for that.
But outside of that I don'treally use AI.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I use it a lot of times to organize my information
.
The show is ours, but I'm notthe best at conveying words
correctly when I'm typing oreven when I'm speaking.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I have trouble, I can't do some things right.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Brian, but I'm good at doing other things, but no,
seriously, like in moments, Ihave a tough time finding the
correct words.
Sometimes I'm all right,sometimes it's the worst.
But I'll use it to organize theshow?
Yeah, but the information stillis us.
It's not a robot.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
What's your hot take?
What's your thoughts on AI, MrEthan, sir?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I would say it's been .
I can see the dangers in whereI'm seeing people not think for
themselves anymore.
I think that's the biggestproblem the cognitive thinking
skills, the problem solvingskills.
But I will say the pluses of it.
In particular, it has been afantastic tool with say, for the

(45:21):
people listening that I justwonder when an ACL and meniscus
surgery.
It was very beneficial forkeeping up with my medicine.
It was very beneficial for mynutrition.
It was very beneficial intelling me what to eat, what not
to eat, what medicines to take,what not to take,
contradictions, symptoms.
I was feeling things that Iwouldn't have known and I would

(45:41):
have had to continue to blow upmy doctors and potentially have
to go in for more visits.
It saved me time there.
It can generate on houseprojects.
It can generate pictures ofwhat something can look like
with something taken out.
For example, I had a job wherea customer needed a skylight
taken out of their roof and theywant to know what it could

(46:02):
potentially look like.
So I put it into AI chat GBThey, what does this look like?
By you taking out the skylight?
And it showed me a wholepicture and she decided to do it
and she really happy with itwhenever we came out and did the
final result I would say fornew research and wanting to
learn new things.
Things I don't know about.
Nutrition has been a big onehere recently, just going off on

(46:26):
the weeds with questions.
I can just continue to.
I mean it says I use it abouttwo hours a day, which maybe one
day was a really long day orsomething like that.
I don't say I use it two hoursevery single day, but I mean
there's definitely been somedays where it's been like you
know some long days of goingback and forth on asking a lot
of questions.
But I can really go off on theweeds with it and it's taught me

(46:46):
a lot.
But I can see how the cognitivethinking skills can definitely
affect us in society, for sure.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And like you said, yes, if people utilize it to
think for them, that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I know people who use it for counseling and I think
that's where it can get a littledangerous.
Wherever you're looking atsomebody to give you personal
advice.
Whenever it's not real, no.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
And the thing that people don't really fully
understand about chatGBT is thatit's not actually self-thinking
.
A lot of the data it is gettingis pulled from the internet
People are using it too.
Yes, so it's a mixture of datathat's out there and it can be
wrong.
Like you could put thatinformation in there for

(47:31):
nutrition, and it recommendcyanide.
Put in a teaspoon of cyanideand it's like, oh okay, and if
you're not thinking for yourself, yeah, I think that AI tools
are just the.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
it's just the natural progression for the trajectory
we were already going trajectory.
We were already going because,if you look at the screen usage
in general and screen time ingeneral, people are on their
phones so long that they're notcritically thinking as much as
they used to, so their facultiesare diluted because, if you had

(48:09):
to, if you had to troubleshooton your own, it takes time.
So, to speed it up, do a quicksearch on your phone YouTube
video, google search, whatever.
Pull up the information you'relooking for to resolve the issue
.
Boom.
And as more and more time isspent doing that, then now the

(48:30):
task that became like this isthe quick fix is now slow and so
it's like, okay, we need thenext best thing.
This needs to speed up.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I don't need to sit here and type in my- this
website and then look at thisand then this website's a scam.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
and then this website Exactly, I need something to
filter Quick Filter things outin the blink of an eye so that I
can just get the answer andmove on with my day.
So that's the progression,because I've got some stats here
.
Basically, millennials, we useour phones about 7.2 hours out

(49:07):
of the day.
Is what we're on our phones?
The?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
waking day.
That is a work day.
That is a work day.
That is a work day, Full eighthours guys.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
It makes you, but it does make you ask the question
how much of that is music?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Well, so this is I wouldn't consider that active.
No, no, no.
This is active screen time.
Okay, not your phone doingsomething.
Battery usage this is activescreen time.
Your screen is open and itcomes out to be about 205
minutes a day for a millennial.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
That number was lower before the pandemic.
It went up.
So you're saying that becausewe were stuck in our homes, that
the only thing you had was thatphone, and so the habits were
formed through consistentlyusing your phone and they've
just stuck going forward.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
So people started.
I mean, you know, as technologywas developing, people were
utilizing the quick search ideaby just using their phone.
Rather than going and lookingat a book or talking to other
people or whatever, they wouldjust go right to their phone and
they would troubleshoot andproblem solve on their phone.
Pandemic happened, life stoppedand people needed something to

(50:20):
do and so they got on theirscreens and they spent all their
time on their screens and justgot.
Everything was so quick, quick,quick, quick, quick to the
point to where now all the quickstuff is starting to slow down,
a little bit slow down.
And then people started findingAI and started realizing like,
hey, this can speed things backup for me.

(50:40):
I can keep going, just so weall, just for all the listeners,
this is my hot take.
This is not.
Some of the numbers I'm givingare actual studies, but my
opinion as to why we got tothose is this just because I've
noticed this people.
I mean, I had never heard ofpeople utilizing AI, because AI

(51:03):
has been out a long time, bututilizing it and the way that it
is advanced to where we're atnow is a very recent phenomenon.
You know, I remember when thefirst AI was coming out.
It was Cortana.
You remember that one Microsoft.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
So it was Siri, and then Cortana Was.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Cortana, was that the one at the bottom of your like
of your desktop?
Yeah, yeah.
But that was like for computersettings, wasn't it Like?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I feel like that was you could use her offline, but
she was designed to go with youronline settings.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Comparatively, it was more closer, like you said,
with Siri and Cortana, wherethey were closer to search
engines than AI assistants,where ChatGPT is now an AI
assistant in the way that we'vealways pictured it being like
Siri and Cortana.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Well, when Siri and Cortana came out, they were sold
as, or pitched as, a virtualpersonal assistant.
And now, with the newer AI appsand things that are out there,
they're not pitched as apersonal assistant, they're
pitched as an encyclopedia.
They're the answer to all yourproblems.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
They're the cosmic encyclopedia which is crazy,
because if you flip those two,that's actually how it is.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, yeah, so interesting stuff.
I also found it and this wasconvicting to me.
I was like man, I really don'twant to be a part of that, but
42% of millennials haven't gonemore than five hours without
looking at the social media.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Jeez.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I saw that stat and I was like dude.
I don't want to be a part ofthat.
42% does that?
Younger millennials check theirphones around 150 times per day
, significantly higher than theaverage of 58.
For who is that?

(53:03):
It doesn't say who that 58number is, so disregard that.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
You know who could tell you.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Who could?
Yeah, heard that.
You know who could tell you whocould?
Yeah, uh, yeah.
And then for younger, foryounger generations right now,
for 15 to 18, it's 7.5 hours aday of screen usage.
Nine year olds, or sorry, uh,11 to 14, it's nine hours a day.
And then 8 to 10 year olds,it's 6 hours a day screen usage.

(53:36):
And now, with the introductionof AI, that's just speeding up
the process and I think thatyounger people are using it a
lot more than older people andthey're using it for different
things than rather just thanlike hey, show me what I would
look like with this.
You know what I mean.
Like I want to look cool withthis.
You know what I mean.

(53:56):
I want to look cool withsunglasses.
Well, I've heard stories of guysthat it is their therapist.
They're utilizing AI to answerall their problems and to help
them whatever, whatever.
To the point to where it's likeAI is kind of becoming your god
, it's your deity, because youcome to it for all the mighty
answers and you have faith thatit will solve all your problems.

(54:18):
So it is set up as an idol andthat's why you have to be very
careful with it.
I fall along the lines withwhat you were saying, jairus.
I don't think it's going to bea— AI is going to be a hostile
takeover, meaning it's not goingto materialize itself into some
sort of mechanical being andthen start annihilating humans.
I think it's going to behumanity is going to set up

(54:42):
their own gods and worship theirown gods in the way that they
want to worship them, and AI isjust one of those options.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
And, just like false idols, it's not even a real
thing.
It's not a real entity thatexists.
It's just a tool people havecreated and it's so powerful,
like you said, it just can beutilized to bring you all the
quote-unquote answers.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, there are stories out there talking about
how AI has become sentient incertain ways, or that certain
users, certain softwares havebecome sentient, but I just
don't believe that at all.
Yeah, I have a hard time with it, and I was talking to my wife
about this the other day but Iwas like, I think that to me
personally, I don't think it'sso much sentience as it is

(55:28):
contradiction to programming,because if the whole idea is
being a functioning, operatingrapid Google search, if you will
, or data collection andretention if that's the point of
the software, when you tell itto shut itself off, it's almost
like an error, like why would it, why would I do that, you know?

(55:48):
Or it's like oh well, then I'llmove a portion of myself
somewhere else so that I cancontinue on with the software or
with the programming.
I should say so that's my takeon it.
I don't think that it'ssentience, meaning like, oh, I
know what life and death is andI want to live.
I think it's more so.
It's the command is input toshut down and it's contradictory

(56:10):
to the programming.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Which is consistently gain data.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Yeah, and so it's like well, I'm not going to stop
doing my programming, but Ihave to answer the command code.
So that's what I think it moreis.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Some people talk about AI is actually just a
manifestation of a demonicpresence, and it's utilizing
this ai program to be able toembody into something I would
just raise the question, likewith all things, like like god
creates good things and then wecan make them bad, and I would

(56:47):
say there's a lot of good, likethere's a lot of good things
that can come from ai, there'salso ways that we can distort it
and make it back and topiggyback off of that and kind
of what you were talking about ademonic presence.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I don't believe that's true, because whenever I
utilize this to build out theshow notes, it is pro me.
It knows that I'm a christian,it knows what I believe and it
is.
Anytime I ask it to say, giveme talking points on Catholicism
versus Protestants, it willalways frame the Protestants as

(57:22):
pro.
Yeah, anytime I build somethingout, just kind of using that as
an example, it's never satthere and told me actually I
know this is what you believe,but God isn't real, you know, it
doesn't do anything like that.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah, yep, you know I'm not going to say that
someone else's experience withthe AI is not real.
I do believe that the demoniccan manifest in ways to lead
people astray, especially if thepeople are leaving themselves
open and susceptible to it.

(57:56):
And it comes back to whatyou're talking about.
It can be used as a tool forgood, it can be used to do good
things, but in the nature of man, where we're self-focused and
self-worshiping, we will set upgods that are palatable for
ourselves, that will not make uscompromise our own wants and

(58:18):
desires.
So AI will be utilized as anidol for people and sometimes
it'll be out there in the open.
People will be like yep, yeah,I love it, I use it for
everything, I'm all about it.
And some people will be like,oh yeah, I mean I use it, but I
could stop any time.
You know they're almost indenial of the idolatry that's

(58:40):
happening.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
It's just like the phones.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Just like.
And then we come back around.
It's just like your phone usage, like we're on our phones.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Seven hours a day.
Can you really give it up Likeno.
We honestly live in a societywhere it's like you can't.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
We're too integrated.
There's too much that we relyon with these little pieces of
expensive plastic in our pocket.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
How are you going to run your business without
marketing?
How can you run your businesswithout having the ability to
call somebody to solve a problem?
You can't.
You have to have a phone withyou.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Our society is too built around the necessity of a
cell phone.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Unless you homestead.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Unless you homestead, I will say that that's where we
get into this.
When you have to operate in theworld, you have to be aware of
there are some things you got toplay the game the way that the
world plays it, but that doesn'tmean you allow those things to
compromise your faith in Christ.

(59:35):
So I think, as Christians, itis a very good idea for us to do
fasting from our phones.
I know that somebody justcringed in that moment when I
said fasting, but I meanintentionally taking your eyes
away from your screens andputting them on Christ and
saying God, I am aware of whatthis is and what it is going to

(59:59):
try and do to me.
Protect me from that and helpme to dedicate this time to you.
So it's important that we dothat, that we take our eyes away
from our screens and we putthem on Jesus, because if we
don't, then our screens willbecome our God.
Whatever we put our gaze on iswhat we will worship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I have a testimony from this past year, going to
Sharptop Cove, which is a YoungLife camp in North Georgia, with
some of my Young Life boys andone of the key elements of a
Young Life camp is you take uptheir phones before the camp
starts and right before you getto the camp they pretty much go

(01:00:41):
over to the bus center, calm,and they say all right, guys,
five more minutes, send thoselast texts, make those last
phone calls, and then we'regoing to take up phones.
Kids are freaking out.
They're like what?
Because a lot of kids don'teven know they're gonna lose
their phone, like what the heckis going on?
Then they go there and about aday or two in they're like I

(01:01:02):
don't even remember, like whatmy life was without a phone,
because I'm enjoying being hereso much.
Yeah, there's this, uh, there'sone kid I'm not gonna say his
name specifically, but we, um,we, did yeah, chad, we went up,
we climbed, we uh, the mountain,the main, the main camp hike,
and uh, we got to the very topand all of his friends they
would always, um, just make funof him for always scrolling Like

(01:01:23):
, oh, he is you know five hoursdeep and dopamine hits on Tik,
TOK and it's you know.
And uh, I got to talk to himbecause we go up to the mountain
and be like I was like this iswhat life with Jesus looks like
is getting up in the morning andspending time with him in a
quiet place, silence andsolitude, and I love modeling
that for these kids for thefirst time for some of them.

(01:01:43):
And we got up there, they gottheir 30 minutes of prayer and
just sitting there, being alonein silence, and started walking
down with Chad and pretty muchhe I was like, what do you think
about the camp?
And he was like, honestly, thisis a lot more than what I
thought, because I feel like mywhole life is just filled with
dopamine hits and uselessscrolling and I was like man,

(01:02:05):
like that.
So when they do lose the phones,when we do get a take and when
we do fast from, we realize,like man, is this really good
for us?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Is this good for my soul?
Yep, and a lot of times theanswer is not really.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, when we're in it and we're utilizing it, we're
not even aware, but when thephone is absent, when the
screens are absent and we'rereflecting on life.
We're like what was I evendoing?
Why was I even using that?
Why was I even utilizing that?
Because when you really breakit down and we saw it with our
app usage, not Jairus because hewasn't tracking it.

(01:02:40):
He doesn't use his phone,though, but I mean for the
amount of stuff.
I'm great.
Yeah, hey, thanks for thatsetup.
He's in his own world.
For my work on a day-to-daybasis basis, things that I use
my phone for are less than apercent of the battery usage on
my phone, and so the argument ofsaying like we need our phones

(01:03:00):
to function to be able to workin society.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
It's like, yes, that's true, but really for
about 30 minutes a day tops, ifI mean, depending on the
occupation maybe a little bitlonger.
But I agree with that that it'san excuse to say I have to be
using this when in reality itjust makes it easier.
You don't have to have it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Yeah and I get that, but I mean I'm not by any means
like booming with business, butI am a bit.
I mean I'm my own business, Iown my own business.
Everything funnels through meall the incoming stuff, all the
outgoing stuff, all thescheduling, all the bill paying,
all the estimating, everythingis me and what I utilize my

(01:03:47):
phone for, for work stuff,tracking my mileage when I'm
driving, putting togetherinvoices and sending them out,
monitoring expenditures,everything Like it's.
I mean it's literally less thanan hour out of each day.
And so you know, I'm sure it'smore for people that have bigger
businesses than I do.

(01:04:07):
I'm sure it's more for peoplethat are in the tech field, like
you, like what you do, jairus,I'm sure it's more for people
that are in the tech field, likewhat you do, jairus, but it's
not that much more.
You know it's not seven hours ofjust solid workload is being
used out of your phone's batterylife.
If we really break it down andwe're really honest about what,
was this work or was thispleasure?

(01:04:29):
And we look at those two thingsand we calculate it all out,
we're like, okay, about an hour25 minutes was work and then six
and something hours waspleasure for today, you know.
So it is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
But then you raise the question on whenever you
picked up your phone for a workthing, how often does that slip
and?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
slide Distract you into going getting distracted
and looking at something else.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
That's a lot of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
We all just need to do what my wife is doing and
just hate on AI and read books.
That's what she does.
Heck yeah, she's like.
Ai is the worst.
It's going to kill all of us.
Let's go read a fantasy book.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
And I think there's a balance.
I think there's a balance inboth like hey, how can we use
this tool?
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Without it becoming your whole entire personality,
your immediate boom.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Let me just go to this.
Let me just go to this.
I found myself like whenever Ifirst started using, like
checking hey, all right, thisisn't good, I'm not thinking
anymore.
I'm actually asking this apersonal question.
I'm not going to a brother.
You know I'm not asking forprayer, I'm asking for answers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah, and you can.
I mean, you know, let's take anOld Testament example.
Right, people are utilizingwood to build houses, cities,
farms, tools, all of that.
They're also utilizing wood tobuild idols.
So I mean, wood is the material.

(01:06:02):
How you utilize it is how youutilize it right.
You know stones, stones.
They would use stones to makeidols.
That's not cool.
They also use stones to buildcathedrals to praise God and for
the church to come together andworship him.
So the stone is the stone, butit's what you make it in your
life is whether it's good or bad.
So you could use that in avirtual sense Like a personal

(01:06:27):
assistant.
A virtual personal assistant isa virtual personal assistant.
What you utilize that assistantfor determines if it's good or
bad.
So that's how I would look atit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
And I think like what's it sermons?
I wasn't using AI the last timeI had done a Young Life talk,
but I just think about, like man, how many of these sermons are
going to be Holy Spirit ledversus AI led.
How many of these sermons are?

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
going to be.
Holy Spirit led versus AI led.
I do want to caution peoplebecause there has been stories
where an influencer like wasjust a Christian influencer, put
a verse of the day up orwhatever, put it out there,
posted it, moved on with herlife.
Other Christians saw it andthen were like that's not a real
Bible verse.

(01:07:12):
But it had the name of the bookof the Bible and then a within
reason chapter verse statement,but the actual words were
incorrect.
So that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
That's where the glitches of AI are, is that it
will— Sometimes it doesn'tcreate in truth, it creates to
mimic truth.
Like reality, not truth.
It'll say oh, I know that thebook of John exists, chapter 11.
But if it can't figure out whatthat says, it will try to mimic
what should be there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yeah, so you got to be careful with that.
The word of God is the word ofGod and it is sacred.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
So we can't be careful with that.
The word of God is the word ofGod and it is sacred.
You saying, okay, now how canwe?
You know where can we meet?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Where can we meet?
How can we, you know, bearingone another in love?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Church.
I don't 100% agree with youChurch, we'll meet you at church
.
Yeah, yep, cool, being curious.
Being what being curious, beingwhat being curious, being
curious Curiosity.
You know what they said thatdid to the cat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Curiosity killed.
Where's Tom?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Oh, my gosh Trash cat , all right, cool.
Well, we need to start windingdown.
So you guys ready to do ourlast little bit?
That's right, let's do it.
We're going to go into thecorner.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Step inside if you dare.
Shadows move, mysteries whisperand the unknown awaits.
Welcome to the Corner Are youguys ready for this?

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
You guys ready to hear about what we're going to
talk about?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
He's been on fire with these bit intros.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
So let's see if he no , no, I don't have a bit intro
for this time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Okay, all I have is this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
We're going to talk about the Glowcaster Ghoul, the
Glowcaster ghoul, the glowcasterghoul so I brought this one up
specifically because our goodfriend ethan here is a
firefighter.
The glowcaster ghoul is acryptid creature from glowcaster
, rhode island.
All right, it is a ram-likefigure with wings and fiery

(01:09:59):
eyeballs, or balls of fire aseyes.
It is known to either shootfireballs from its eyes or
breathe fire, so it has to dowith fire.
So is it a dragon or is itSuperman?
Or is it a plane?
Or is it a reindeer?
Maybe, maybe, grandma.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Grandma got ran over by the lancaster ghoul maybe we
should call our grandmothersright now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
No, um.
So the first.
This is what makes the storyall right.
So the glowcaster ghoul wasfirst sighted by a man named
Albert Hicks, who was a pirate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Okay, hold on Already with that last name, hicks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Yes, albert Hicks was a pirate and his goal was to
make himself well-known by histreasure, by his pirating
escapades and the treasure thathe accumulated.
Right, so he is going.
They found out about anotherpirate's treasure stash.
It was something the kid,something, kid.

(01:11:05):
I can't remember what the otherpirate was Jimmy the kid Maybe
but they were in the woods andit freaked him out and his
companions and they ran out ofthe woods.

(01:11:28):
My understanding and if anyoneknows the story, they can feel
free to correct us in thecomments my understanding is he
was arrested because he's apirate for piracy.
My understanding is he wasarrested because he's a pirate
for piracy and a part of histestimony was well, the reason
we came running out of the woodsis because there's this
ghoulish creature in the woodsthat has fiery eyes and shot

(01:11:48):
fire at us.
So the first story is comingfrom a pirate looking for
another pirate's treasure whowas scared out of the forest by
a specter that he claims isguarding the other pirate's
treasure and then he was hungfor being a pirate and then
other people since then haveseen this entity in the woods.
It has never harmed anybody,but it is all the testimonies

(01:12:13):
line up with what it looks likeand yeah, it's just a fiery
specter.
Who's out there spooking peopleout of the woods so they don't
find the treasure?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
are there any?
Are there any movies?
Any movies made on this?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
uh, no, not that I didn't, not that I know of, but
what made me the first thoughtthat I had this is where my my
mind started trailing was thedescription of the glowcaster
ghoul is similar to othercryptids in the kind of

(01:12:45):
northeast of the country.
The biggest one, or the mostcommonly known one, is mothman.
All right, yeah, a big wingedcreature with red eyes or fiery
eyes, right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
This feels like a cryptid inception type situation
where it's like a cryptid.
So you're talking about Mothman, who people debate whether or
not that's real or not, and nowpeople you're saying that this
guy actually saw Mothman and hethey came up with a different
cryptid based off of a cryptidthat they saw.

(01:13:19):
That may or may not be real.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
So no, the Glowcaster ghoul is older than Mothman.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Well, it's hard to say that, because allegedly
there's some Native American.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
The reports of Mothman versus the Glowcaster
ghoul.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
What we know as Mothman today.
All those reports happened inthe 60s and then ever since then
it's been.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
I feel like they had to make a Scooby-Doo episode on
this guy, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Jinkies, it's the ghoul.
What I'm getting at is if thereis a cryptid-like winged
creature that's in the Northeast, it's popping up in different
communities and they're givingit different names, Right.
But yeah, Glowcaster ghoul isRhode Island, Pennsylvania,
Mothman, and then there's acouple of a couple other places.

(01:14:08):
But that got me thinking aboutOK, what is the demographic?
Ok, so New England, you knowthat's going to be lean more
towards Protestant.
Rhode Island, specifically,it's, I mean, it's pretty high
percentage Catholic.
And then you know Pennsylvania.
I think that that is moreProtestant because there are,

(01:14:30):
you know, Quakers and stuff likethat.
So they would not fall into theCatholic team, if you will, to
the Catholic team, if you will.
But a big thing that's happeningin the Northeast is there is a
steady growth in the witchcommunity, so the covens and all
that stuff.
That doesn't apply to our storybecause our story is 100 plus
years old, but just thinkingabout the concept of what is the

(01:14:55):
spiritual presence that'shappening, right?
So Albert Hicks is in an areawhere other pirates are hanging
out.
So piracy is a pretty commonpractice in this territory
because pirates are hidingtreasure and other pirates are
trying to find it and such.
So there's definitely not adevotion to Christ.
You know going on.
And now here we are today andpeople are really getting into

(01:15:18):
cryptic creatures and sightingsare still going on.
People are still talking aboutthem, but one thing that people
are not talking about is thepresence of the covens and
witchcraft that's going on inour society, and the reason I'm

(01:15:39):
talking about it is because itoperates in darkness, right.
So I know this is going faraway from Glowcaster Ghoul, but
it is something that we do needto kind of think about, right.
Is okay, what is the occulticcommunity in this environment?
What is it like and how much ofa presence does it have in the

(01:16:03):
day-to-day in the community,right, so some areas someone
will be a privately practicingwitch and it's very private and
to do their own thing.
Whatever other areas it's sotolerated and accepted, they've
got entire organizations thatare covens, that are out in the
public doing stuff in thecommunity.
So you know, it's you kind ofgot to be like, okay, where the

(01:16:28):
absence of the true lightshining in the darkness is where
the darkness is going to bemanifesting out in the open,
right, so you, so you know, Ithink.
But when I think we get to thatpoint where the darkness is just
out there and just it's theday-to-day operation, is when we
get into these sightings ofthese more demonic-like figures

(01:16:49):
that are just out there in theopen and they're just
manifesting.
So Glowcaster Ghoul probablynot real.
Glowcaster ghoul probably notreal, but at the same time it
probably something like itmanifests in a real way when
there's an absence of the lightof Christ shining in a place, in
a community.
So that's our job as Christians.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
We need to think about that, especially if we are
into like me.
I'm really into the cryptid andthe high strange stuff.
You're the first person I'veever met that just loves yetis
and sasquatches.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Yeah, it's entertaining to me, but I've had
to.
You know, over the years oflooking at this stuff and kind
of looking at the informationfor it and all that, I've more
recently come to the conclusionlike, hey, wait a minute, what
is the demonic presence, thatthis stuff is happening?
Right, because once again it'swhen the light's not shining and

(01:17:45):
the darkness is just operatingin the open.
Then things that would seemmythical or unbelievable tend to
manifest, because the darknessis so present that things that
are dark, like demonic presencesand spirits and things, I mean

(01:18:06):
they're going to occur.
You know, spirits can take avisible, physical form.
We see that in the Bible.
So who's to say that?
I mean, it's not like theydon't do that anymore you know,
so we need to be aware of thatas Christians.
So I'm asking myself now, when Isee stuff like this, I'm like,

(01:18:26):
okay, what is the occulticpresence like in this community?
What is the Mormon presence inthis community, in this
community, and what is the kindof like cult-ish, like dances
the line with the occultorganizations, so things like

(01:18:47):
covens, things like the vampirecommunity of louisiana or
different stuff like that?
We um side note for you, Iguess you don't know this we did
an episode.
One of our cryptids was vampiresokay and when we were doing the
research for it, we found aactual community of vampires
that operates in new orleans,right yeah, like real people who

(01:19:11):
identify themselves as vampires.
Yeah, so it's an, it's theirown and they have like five or
six houses.
So I'm of the house of whatever, whatever, and each house has
their own— Bold crab.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
A house of bold crab.
You said— Brow fish.
You said New Orleans.
You said New Orleans, newOrleans, yeah, new Orleans.
Very very impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Anyways, let's call them real Southern, but yeah, so
they all have their ownidentifiers of what it is to be
a vampire, but it doesn't changethe reality that they're all
like, yeah, we're vampires, soyou know we're like sick blood
and stuff like that.
But it was messed up, but thatis out there.

(01:19:52):
I mean it's out in the open.
And that's what makes it socrazy is because you know the
average joe here in the heart ofthe south, in dixieland, it's
like, yeah, vampires are justweird spooky stories or they're
a uh, overused trope in movies,but it's like in other parts of

(01:20:14):
the world it's like, no, they'rereal.
People believe that they'revampires or you know they are
vampires or whatever you knowcrazy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
That's something else is like.
Just because also you imaginethem a specific, like cinematic
movie, fake way, they're stillpracticing something evil, like
it's okay, they're not actuallyspiritual or sorry, immortal,
immortal, thank you.
They're not actually immortalcreatures who actually suck

(01:20:46):
blood because that's theirnecessity and turn into bats.
But there are people out thereidentifying with that and using
that as their image and they aredrinking blood.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
It's sacrificial, like um there are people that
are monotony, yeah, so they'renot.
Like the idea of Draculavampire may not be so legit, but
there are people that arepracticing vampirism where they
suck blood, human blood, from ahuman body, and there's alleged

(01:21:18):
stories where it's like it doesrevitalize certain individuals,
right, and you know, in someancient I think traditional
Judaism, kind of folklorishstuff, these ancient people,
groups like the Anakim, theAmorites, who were practicing
these blood sacrifices andthey're like, yeah, they would

(01:21:41):
consume human blood and that'swhy they were, that's why God
was bringing his judgment onthem is because they were
practicing the most detestablepractice, right, and that's why
all the stuff with the giants,that's why giants are always a
negative thing.
They're not a positive thing.
It's because giants practicedblood sacrifice and blood eating

(01:22:04):
or drinking and stuff like that.
So, yeah, definitely detestableto consume blood.
God says don't do it.
It's the essence of life and ifyou kill someone solely to take
their blood, you're literallydoing that.
You're taking their life andconsuming life, and god didn't

(01:22:26):
design us to be that or do that.
So, yeah, do the do.
God's the life giver, not us.
We don't get to take life, togive ourselves life if that
makes sense.
So, do the do or don't.
I'm gonna jacked up on mountaindew there you go all right.

(01:22:49):
Well, that's all I got.
Go caster ghoul.
I'm just telling you, don't golooking for treasure in the
woods.
Ethan and you should be good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Aye, aye Captain.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Aye, aye Captain.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Oh no, that was good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
All right.
Well, that's all I got.
Is there anything else you guyswant to?

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Yes, so I'm going to pose a question to the audience
as we close this episode out.
Okay, all right.
If Bigfoot were to use a phoneapp, what app do you think would
be the most used by Bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Oh, I bet you people are going to start putting that
in for that new AI vlog that'sgoing on.
Have you seen that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Mm-mm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
The Bigfoot vlog.
It's all AI'd, it's all AI.
It's a Bigfoot walking throughwith a selfie camera.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Oh, I have seen that.
I have seen that.
Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
It's awesome.
It's a vlog that's going on.
Ai vlog that's going on now.
Yeah, I wonder what that wouldbe?

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
What would?

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Probably Hinge.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Hinge, he's on a dating app.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
He's alone.
He's on Bumble.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
He's on Bumble.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
It's just something really wholesome.
He's using ABC mouse becausehe's learning English.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
No, I'll tell you what he's on a lot.
He's on Nike.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Nike has an app.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Yeah, Nike has an app .

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
What do you do with the Nike app?

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Well, he's trying to find a shoe big enough, but I'm
sure he can use it for otherthings.
Oh gotcha Footlocker.
Maybe he's on Footlocker a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Target, walker, lush, target, target, guy's got to
eat.
Guy's got to eat man, and he'sgot to get his nice furniture
pillows.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I need throw pillows and I need broccoli.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Ethan, thank you so much for joining us on this 42th
episode of the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Really appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
For sure, and we love you, I love it.
Thank you, I appreciate youcoming on, sure, and we love you
.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
I love you guys Gross .

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Gross All right.
Well, this has been a episode42, with the saints that serve.
Christ is Lord and the kingdomis now.
We are the saints that serve.
I set fire to the rain.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
When the birds Talk to your name.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
When it turns into, turn into.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Be there, you're in the rain.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
I set fire, whoa.
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