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May 24, 2025 46 mins

Hi it's Julie! This week on We’re Still Here, things get real (and a little ridiculous). Simon and I talk with John about Governor Kathy Hochul’s apology for New York’s Indian boarding schools—what it got right, what it left out, and why “haven for orphans” isn’t the flex she thought it was. We also get into the Vatican hoarding Indigenous artifacts like it’s a colonial Costco, and the new Pope’s silence on whether they’ll ever be returned.

Plus: Gov. Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma keeps picking fights with the Muscogee Nation over tribal license plates. We also dive into why Native students still have to fight to wear ceremonial regalia at graduation. Spoiler: It’s 2025. This shouldn’t be controversial.

And we got some incredible calls—including one from a listener on a cross-country road trip to see his trans daughter. He said hearing me talk a few weeks ago about trans people being sacred and medicine on this land - helped him understand her in a whole new way. Yeah—we cried too.

Julie Francella (Aakadewin-O Waawaashkeshi Ikwe "Brave Deer Woman Standing Strong from The Heart") 

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