February 9, 2025 • 63 mins
Bunsen's recent battle with a herniated disc has brought our family a rollercoaster of emotions as we navigated medical diagnostics and treatment options. This episode is filled with heartfelt stories and advice from our community, emphasizing the importance of support in pet parenthood and the joy that pets bring into our lives.
• Bunsen's concerning symptoms and initial vet visit
• The emotional weight of the MRI day
• Diagnosis of a herniated disc and treatment plan
• Emphasis on rest and recovery methods for pets
• Listener stories of triumph and tribulation in pet ownership
• Importance of community support during tough times
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello pet enthusiasts .
My name is Jason Zakowski.
I'm the dog dad of Bunsen,Beaker and Bernoulli the science
dogs of social media.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
My co-host is Hi there, I'm Chris Zakowski.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm also Slim, slim shady on the kahoot game and I
am the dog mom to bunsen, beakerand bernoulli and the cat mom
to ginger every week on saturdaywe let everybody know what's
going on with the dogs and thenabout halfway through the show
about 20, half an hour or so 25minutes we open up the floor to
(00:43):
questions and for folks to comeup on audio to tell their own
stories about what's going on.
Yeah, I think the main thingthat we'll just touch on first
is how Bunsen's doing, becausethat's like a main question that
we keep getting.
So Monday you took him toCalgary, chris, is that correct?
Yeah, I sure did.
(01:05):
Okay, so can you talk aboutthat, because I wasn't there for
it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So we went.
I asked Annalise if she couldpossibly come with because of
her schedule with school.
She's able to, she doesn't haveclass after class and her
Anyway, her schedule allowed itbecause she's taking music
instruction up in edmonton butthat her music instructor is on
(01:31):
holiday.
So, perfect, I'm like, awesome,you can come, great.
And so we packed up the car,the van, and we were gone at 7
am.
I said let's leave at 7.
We didn't leave at 7 because Idon't know how time works, but
we got to the place by nineo'clock, which was when we were
supposed to arrive, and we tookBunsen in and they said, ok, can
(01:51):
you sign this paperwork?
And I said yeah, and they'relike, ok, we're going to take
him and then you'll get a call.
And I said I want to talk,maybe about his medical history.
And they're like, oh no, wehave all that stuff Because you
and I, jason, had gone throughthe medical history the night
previous, the night prior, tojust make sure I didn't forget
(02:12):
anything that I wanted to talkabout.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Nope, you're going to say goodbye to Bunsen.
So I took a picture of him andI said bye, bye, buddy.
And then Annalise and I werelike what are we going to do?
And we happened to see aMarshall's on our way in and we
were going to go to Ikea.
And then we drove to Ikea butit opened at 10am, so we were
(02:36):
early.
And then she said Can we go forsome breakfast?
And so we went to Starbucks andthen we went to Marshall's.
And that's when Dr Diaz calledand he's okay, based on my my
exam, I he's having trouble inhis neck and I believe he needs
an MRI.
And I said okay.
(02:56):
And he said now, please tell me, he did have a CT scan or a CAT
scan in in like June, may, june, and he said there was atrophy
of his head.
And he said I'm not seeing anyevidence of atrophy of his head.
And I said oh no, he grew hishead back.
I told.
I said Bunsen, great job, yougrew your head back and he's all
(03:21):
that's interesting.
And then he talked to.
He talked about what it couldbe.
He had three ideas that itcould be.
It could have been like thetapeworm cyst parasite actually
being alive in Bunsen and in hisbrain he's.
I don't know if that's likely.
And then he talked aboutmeningitis and he said there
might be a 30% chance ofmeningitis and he didn't really
(03:43):
talk about the herniated disc,but that's what it turned out to
be.
So Bunsen went for an MRI and Iwas trying to get ahold of
Jason because I didn't want tomake a decision without Jason.
And he told me.
Jason told me.
He said I am going todefinitely be by my phone, so
when you text me I'm going to beable to answer.
He's like I'm teaching, but Ican answer the text.
(04:05):
So I text nothing.
I text again nothing.
I call nothing.
Text again, no reply.
Text again, call again nothing.
And so what I did is?
I called the school.
I said hello, hi, can I pleasebe patched through to Mr Zek?
Please be packed through to MrZakowski's classroom and Jason
(04:28):
Zakowski's classroom.
And the receptionist said Areyou a parent?
No, I'm his wife.
And then he answered the phone.
He answered the phone, he saidMr Zakowski speaking and I said,
hi, this is Mrs Zakowskispeaking.
And I said, hi, this is MrsZakowski speaking.
I need to talk to you aboutwhat the preliminary results are
(04:49):
and moving forward with an MRI.
And so now he's trying to belike, oh okay, and not giving
anything away, like he could betalking to the principal, maybe
calling asking for a student tobe sent to the office, or maybe
it was a counselor that wascalling to talk about attendance
or something, I don't know.
So he's being very like, notshort with his responses so that
(05:12):
someone wouldn't knownecessarily who he's talking to.
And jason's, let's go for it,let's do the mri, yeah.
And so, uh, we did now you'retalking about.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You called my classroom, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it wasjust a little awkward, that's
all.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Why, why.
What was awkward is that youweren't answering my text
messages or my calls when yousaid that you would be near your
phone.
I know you were teaching, butyou said that you would.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know.
I was in like a 25 minutelesson and that's probably like
I had a 25 minute likecontinuous talk.
Yeah, but anyways, so MRI.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Uh-huh Anyway.
So then the vet.
The vet said okay, and then Iwent back to the clinic and I
paid for it.
And then I paid 75, that's whatthey wanted, yeah.
And so I paid that.
And then she's like okay.
And I said, now we're going toIkea and for some retail therapy
.
And she's like you just spent alittle bit of money here.
(06:16):
Uh, I'm like, yeah, it's, we'regoing to Ikea.
So Annalise and I went to Ikeaand it was glorious.
Do you know why it was glorious, jason?
Because we weren't marathoningthrough the store.
You love to go as fast aspossible and skip sections.
Oh no, we went through thewhole map and picked up some
(06:37):
things, which was great.
So now I'm waiting for thecallback.
There's nothing.
And now you're texting mebecause you're on your lunch and
you're like did you hearanything?
I'm like, no, I haven't heardanything.
He's like.
And then you said I'm available.
I'm like, well, I know nothing.
And then what are we going todo?
What are we going to do afterthat?
We went to Costco and theCostco in Calgary where we went,
(06:58):
it was four minutes away.
Like all this stuff was likeright there.
And yeah, I know it's great.
And they have these soundbarrier things and I sent you a
picture.
I'm like hey, would you like asound?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
barrier thing.
Bernoulli is being bad.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, no, there's probably something on there,
jason.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay, you keep talking, I'll go save, I'll go
get Bernoulli off.
What is he taking?
Let's see what he gets.
I don't know, uh, nothing, hedidn't get anything okay, good,
there's nothing up there.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
There there's your things from amazon.
Yeah, that's fine.
Oh, he didn't get anything.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Keep going, oh you're stressing me out he's a guy.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, there we go oh, anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So I went to costco, got a few things, got these
panels that you're like, yeah,we'll get those.
Okay, yeah, bought those.
And then now, what are we gonnado?
So we went back to the clinic.
Now he's bringing beaker overto be bad anyway.
So then we went back to theclinic and I'm like, hi, I'm
(08:01):
back at the clinic and I enteredmarks into power school.
I'm back at the clinic and Ientered Mark's into power school
, so I did some work and sowe're waiting there.
And then I get a call, oh, hi,and it was Dr Diaz and he I
don't know what happened toJason.
Hopefully I'm still able totalk.
I just made the dogs the sololayout.
(08:25):
Oh, okay.
Then what happened?
Oh then, well, then I talked toDr Diaz and he said, yeah, it's
a herniated disc and this isthe treatment plan moving
forward.
I'm like, oh, that's awesome,thank you, that's great.
And then he's like when do youthink you might be like?
Bunsen will be ready to bepicked up at such and such to
like a little bit later?
I'm like, actually, we're at theclinic and he's oh, okay, let
me have the front staff callwith discharge instructions.
(08:46):
I'm like, okay, that's fine.
And so we're sitting therewaiting and Annalise actually
has a class at six o'clock andit's four o'clock when all this
is happening, and then I get acall from the front desk and
it's funny because I'm actuallyin the clinic and she said, oh,
he won't be ready for 45.
Because I said, oh, I'm in theclinic, oh, we're not ready.
(09:11):
And I'm like, oh, okay, that'sfine.
And then I said, alice, oh, no,like I don't know if we're
going to make it back to RedDeer for six o'clock.
But guess what Great news Herclass was online.
What a time to be alive to haveonline classes.
Anyway, so perfect.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I didn't have to rush got to the mri results yet yeah
, I did.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh okay, he has a herniated disc oh okay, you're
just okay yeah I said he has aherniated disc.
He hello, yeah, hi, everyone.
Welcome to pet chat yeah this ismy short story long because
that's how I tell them this.
This is why Jason doesn't letme have the camera or the mic
very often, but he says it's inhis C6-7, but radiology will
(10:01):
know for sure, because he'sgoing to send the results off to
radiology and they'll confirmexactly where the herniated disc
is.
Exactly where the herniateddisc is.
Anyway, then the 45 minutes toan hour came and went, and then
we were back at the clinic aftergoing to Superstore to get some
food, and then we took Bunsenhome with his herniated disc
(10:22):
yeah, in his neck.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Commonplace C6-7.
Commonplace for big breeds.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Commonplace for big breeds and then in little dogs
the commonplace is C2-3.
I learned that information andhe says it's been there quite a
while, so chronically, and so myquestion was could it have been
because he had that growingmass inside of him which would
have changed how he moved aroundand it was in his abdomen?
(10:50):
But maybe it's impacted hisneck?
And he said, no, I don't thinkso.
What was confirmed?
Ish?
He said it is possible that hegrew his face back after the
mask came out, because the maskwas impacting a nerve and
potentially his teeth andchewing on that one side.
(11:13):
So that was a victory for me.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I wonder who's been saying that ever since his head
grew back.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I wonder, I wonder who's been saying good job, you
grew your head back because yougot the tapeworm cyst removed.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't know who that person was.
Yeah, but everything isconnecting because months before
the summer like this ispre-Bernoulli we went to the
Comic-Con in Calgary and we tookthe dogs with us and the day we
got back Bunsen was walkingcrazy weird.
He was walking with his headsideways and I was like
(11:51):
terrified he had a stroke orsomething.
So we got him into the vet andthen by the an hour he was
walking normal again and thevets oh yeah, he's probably okay
.
Um, but you were you.
The vet had said that he hadprobably injured his neck long
time before it got really badand then maybe he just did
(12:12):
something and it was enough totweak it really bad.
End of November ish, end ofNovember ish is when we started
to notice his gait change.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And like when you have an injury and even if you
heal up from that injury, youcan really hurt yourself very
quickly, Even in humans.
You could sneeze and throw yourback out and then, oh no, my
back's ruined.
And then you get off the couchand you're like, oh, broken.
So it's really really verysimilar that the injury can just
(12:46):
self aggravate itself becausethe injury you're prone to
injury already, Because theinjury you're prone to injury
already.
And then he does have a bulgeon his 5'6", C5'6", which is
also related to the C6'7".
So he's got a couple thingsgoing on.
He's a good candidate forsurgery with an 80% success rate
(13:08):
.
But we're trying.
He said I would suggest notdoing surgery right away.
I would suggest the rest andrelaxation retreat which is what
we're doing with him is, andthen go from there, see how he's
doing in a couple weeks.
And we don't mind, he doesn'tmind.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
His favorite trick is down, stay yeah, he's a couch
potato, he is he's like verycontent not to play tug.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He's not allowed to play tug anymore, no collar.
He has to wear a harnessoutside, clicked up when we go
outside together.
Yeah, which is okay, becausethat's we don't mind doing that
for him.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah so if you're watching live, I've got the
bernou.
I moved the camera upstairs andbunsen is laying right down
next to bernoulli, which isreally cute, and we have that
section of our house likeblocked off.
As you can see, bunsen doesn'troar around unless somebody
comes to the door.
That's the only problem abouthaving him there, because he
really wants to see people thatcome to the door.
(14:03):
That's the door to the outsideof our house, so he's confined
to very small areas of the houseor he's on a leash on his
harness so he can't move verymuch.
And he, that is his life.
For two weeks he's on extremelow activity, no walks, just out
to go pee and poop and that'sthe only time.
That's what he gets to do.
(14:24):
If he wants to lie down outside, that's fine, but no activity
outside.
And then six weeks, four moreweeks after that, four to five
more weeks after that again verylimited.
Five more weeks after thatagain very limited activity.
And there is the hope that hewon't need surgery.
I think the neurologist said80% chance of success through
rest.
It will fix itself.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No 80%.
He's a good candidate forsurgery.
80% success rate with surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh, so what's rest then?
What's the percentage there?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We don't know 80% success rate with surgery.
Oh, so what's rest then?
What's the percentage there?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We don't know, oh, okay, but it could be as good as
it could be as good as 80%.
All right, just by resting itcould go up to 80%.
Okay, that's what you said.
Yeah, and we've done thisbefore.
Remember, the whole tapewormcyst came out and he was on rest
and small room, like, doesn'thave to be crated, he can be in
a small room or a small area.
But then, you may recall, hebroke his toe at four months and
(15:19):
we had him on like rest thentoo.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That was way worse, though, because he was a puppy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That was way that was way worse when he was a puppy.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, so jen is asking how jen from is watching
on twitter slash x.
Uh, how is he doing with therest?
He's actually doing fine, likeI think.
Like you can see, he's content.
Um, sometimes we have toseparate him in a different room
and he doesn't necessarily likethat because he wants to be
with people.
But if he's with people or hedoesn't see people, like right
(15:48):
now, he's totally fine.
He's just chilling withbernoulli right now and
Bernoulli is not being dumb andjumping on him.
So if that was happening, we'dhave to separate them.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, so Bernoulli's calmed down quite a bit.
We also had vasectomy,bernoulli, at the same time.
All of this was happening.
Welcome to our life ofshenanigans.
So Bernoulli is actually a lotcalmer than he was, because
before he was jumpy in bunsen'sface and bunsen didn't like that
and we didn't know why bunsendidn't like that.
(16:19):
Probably now we do, because hewas in a lot of pain or he was
not sure-footed, so he's oh mygod, here comes a dog and can't
defend myself.
Now things are way smoother andwhat I do is, when I leave in
the morning, you can see rightbehind the coat there that's a
room that we put Bunsen in andyou've probably seen the pen
(16:41):
that we have in there.
So he's confined in that smallroom, smaller room in a smaller
pen, and I give him Kong in themorning and I also give him his
high-dose drugs.
So he has gabapentin andoxycodone yeah he has those two,
and so I give him one, and thenat night we give him the other,
(17:04):
so he it may cause drowsiness,which is perfect because then
he'll sleep all night yeah, he'sa good boy, though it's not
like he is a good boy he'sfairly easy to manage because
he's such a good dog.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, all right .
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So enough about Bunsen, the news is yeah, I have
monopolized the whole thing.
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
No people wanted to know.
That was like the number onecomment.
I did a live walk on Instagramand that was people were wanting
to know about his, how Bunsenwas doing and, as I said, there
could have been it could havebeen way worse the diagnosis,
right.
This is something thatpotentially he will get better
from, just with rest, andobviously he's been through
(17:43):
pretty traumatic surgery, so wedidn't want to have surgery
again.
We wanted to wait.
So if he does need surgery,that's going to be way down the
line and then we have to decidethat's the best for him to have
another big surgery, but theneurologist said he's a really
good candidate for it, so that'sgood.
I'm just so happy it's not.
You know there and again we're.
We've been so lucky with bunsenand that it's not lost on me
(18:06):
that other people are not luckywith the diagnosis with their
pets, right?
I just wanted to mention thatif you have had a bad diagnosis
with your pet, chris and I arealways thinking about that.
We're always cognizant of that.
Okay, before we get to speakers, I think we should just quickly
do some updates on Bernoulliand on Bernoulli and Beaker,
(18:29):
because it's been the Bunsenshow, even though Bunsen's the
bestest boy.
So today Bernoulli askedChesney, the service Rottweiler
to be his Valentine, and then,of course, she said yes, so
there will be she said, woofly,absolutely, that's right.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So-.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Absolutely yeah, so that was very cute.
You will all see some veryadorable footage next week
around Valentine's Day with theChesnouli, as they've been
dubbed.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That was really fun, the power couple, the Canadian
power couple.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
That was really fun.
And then again the wonderfulBenny Benson, benny for short,
and I see Benny and Bowie, akathe beans, are here, benny.
We had another long.
Every Valentine's Day we do alittle Zoom date.
I know it seems weird, but it'sactually really fun and really
sweet.
And we had a Zoom date withLisa, lisa's the dog, mom of
(19:26):
Benny, and it was very sweet.
That's also going to be thewhole footage will be around
valentine's day.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Beaker looked so cute in her stuff, chris, that you
got for her um I know, and I setthe room up and bunsen didn't
puke on it this year.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh, yeah, he puked last year.
He just threw up.
He threw up those.
It was a treat.
Right, it was some kind of likevalentine's treat.
We gave them from some placeyeah yeah, so that's what's
going on with beaker and newlyand they both did great, because
there's there has to be alittle bit of movie magic to
make it work, like the dog hasto hold the position, and then
(20:03):
I'm gonna have to use someartful editing.
So hopefully you guys all enjoythat.
Next week I think we'll post itprobably thursday night, just
because fr Friday's busy withtext from Bunsen, so you'll be
able to enjoy it Thursday nightand all Friday.
The video.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And lots of people from the future.
It's Valentine's Day before.
It's Valentine's Day for us.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's right.
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So that is true.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, why is Bernoulli?
His butt is right in front ofthe camera.
Yeah, why is Bernoulli right in?
His butt is right in front ofthe camera.
I don't know.
Get your butt out of the camera, bernoulli.
Okay, he's going to lay down.
Did you see?
He was licking ginger offcamera.
Ginger tried to get by andBernoulli trapped her and he's
(20:48):
going to land, and then she wentdownstairs.
I noticed that.
So, and to wrap that up,bernoulli is healed and he's
going to Waggles like Monday, noTuesday or Monday.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, they're not open Monday but Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So we'll cross our fingers that there's no humpy
humpy behavior or anything likethat, because this is all.
Waggles is the first dogthey've let have a vasectomy
instead of a full neuter.
Come to class.
So yeah, there we go, all right.
Anything else to say.
Should we move to answeringquestions and letting folks
(21:24):
speak who want to talk abouttheir pets or ask us questions?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, I have nothing else, okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So if you're on audio and you want to come up to
speak, we'd love to have youListen to your story about your
pet.
If you have some questions forus, go ahead and then type up
your questions.
If you're watching live, I'lldo my best to ping pong around
and get to them.
I'm watching like a phone, twotabs, so it's a bit.
Chris is bringing some peopleup to speak.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
We got.
Yeah, chris is bringing somepeople up to speak.
Hey, yeah, oh hi, I was goingto go with Robert first, and
then Patricia and then Holly.
That's the order that came up,thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Excellent.
Can you hear me now?
I can.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, hi, robert, we can Excellent.
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
I used to be.
In the 1980s I joined a companyand we started designing some
of the early MRI machines Whoaand by the late 90s I was
working in a university hospitalwith doing research on some of
the MRI machines and one of thethings we did at night was we
did some of the early dog andcat MRIs no way For a local vet,
(22:35):
yes, and it was for humans only, but we'd sneak them in at
night and then the vet had afriend at the zoo and then they
started sneaking zoo animals in.
We did a lion with a foot drop,we did hyenas, we did all kinds
of amazing and interestingthings.
(22:56):
It was very fun, but it was allcovert and we had to scrub
everything down so it didn'tsmell like zoo the next day.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh my God, what a wild story, Robert.
Oh, it was fun Okay what wasthe coolest animal that you
snuck in?
That's a wild question.
It's a wild story, but is thereone that you snuck in?
That's a wild question.
It's a wild story.
But is there one that sticksout to you?
Speaker 7 (23:16):
We did a three-year-old baby gorilla, and
the vets were very nervous.
They said if she wakes up shewill literally kill us all.
So we're going to keep herasleep.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, I've heard there's no chill with those
gorillas when they go off.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
they're pretty strong yeah so, but it was neat, we we
even did a vulture once and allkinds of stuff, so wow.
But I was gonna ask um bunsen,um, did he have any?
Um pain or weakness in hisfront legs?
He?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
has pain when he steps.
That's why he does this littletippy tap, but he's so stoic, he
smiles while he does it likehe's so happy all the time.
It's only like we we werethinking about this, because
adam, our younger son, who'she's well, he's 19 now.
He wrestles with bunsen and hewas wrestling with bunsen a
couple times and made bunsen cry.
(24:12):
Normally it doesn't hurt, buthe wasn't being mean or anything
, he was just grabbing his headand going and then bunsen yelped
and that was atypical and thathappened like before bernoulli,
this was way before everything.
Like he did verbally say he wasin pain, but normally when he
walks he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
He's happy to walk around like he's so happy okay
but yeah, that tippy toe thingsounds like it's consistent with
the cervical spine injury yeah,and we've been in and out of
the local vet here trying todiagnose what was happening with
him.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, and like one of the vets, she did like a range
of motion along with someneurological kind of testing and
his pupils and things like thatand she said his hind legs had
like limited range of motion andthat was the first time that he
had that and that probably waslike in October.
But then after that, like wejust rested him and he he got
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better in the hind legs but hewas doing the tippy tap and
slipping, yeah.
That's why you can see all thosecarpets on the floor upstairs,
because it's like carpet city.
The floor is lava, but reallythe floor is carpet for Bunsen.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, it's so much better for him.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Good luck with the surgery.
I have one quick other question.
I saw your bit on how dogsdrink.
Yeah, do your dogs drink thesame way all the time?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Bunsen and Bernoulli do, but Beaker changes how she
drinks.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Because my lab.
Sometimes she drinks like she'sa debutante, sipping champagne,
yeah, so gingerly.
And then other times she putsher entire face in the water,
all the way to her eyeballs.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, beaker has dainty drink and then all-in
drink.
She has both.
Yes, must be a lab thing,thanks.
Thanks, robert, very cool, okay, chris, I have no idea who's
next.
Sorry, I was monitoring the theother channel, so go ahead, do
you know?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's Patricia.
Hi, patricia, thank you forwaiting.
Yeah, hello.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Sorry, I don't know what happened there.
I dropped off, then I had toget back on again.
So yeah, so right now, I'm gladthat Bunsen is comfortable.
Right now, um, I'm glad thatbunsen is comfortable, but at
least you guys have a diagnosis.
I just want to clarify.
I suggested because I had afriend of mine who had something
similar, but it was more in theback end yeah so I don't
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anyways about maybe going to theosteopath, but I didn't realize
his disc was hernia.
I was probably reading it whileI was half asleep, because it's
like 1 42 in the morning hereand I'm not that long back
actually because Skye is in thehospital.
Oh yeah, she has mildpancreatitis oh no, well, I'm
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sorry to hear that yeah,thursday she was fine, and then
Friday I she only gets fed oncea day.
Not because I didn't like, whenshe was a puppy I used to feed
her two, three times a day, yeah, but then when she got older I
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used to feed her breakfast anddinner or supper, but then I
started realizing she didn'twant to eat breakfast.
So now she would be like likeshe literally six o'clock comes,
it's like she'll run from myoffice, which is now turned into
her bedroom, and I've got apretty big office and it's a
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home office, but yeah, andshe'll come into the kitchen or
she'll come in wherever I ambecause I work from home, and
she'll pester me like, come on,it's feeding time.
So I was like all right, soanyhow, so I make up sky's food.
Yeah, I cook all of her food.
Now there is dog food in it aswell.
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Yeah, because she's got a reallysensitive stomach.
She has a minor umbilicalhernia, so she's booked in now
to get that fixed in Aprilbecause she just had a heat
cycle.
So I'm like I'm done with thisstuff.
So anyways, long story short,so she had dinner and then I
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didn't even know, but she justgot sick.
I was eating my dinnerafterwards and I thought, oh did
I spill some of my dinner onthe floor Because I was watching
TV.
And then I was like that is thegrossest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Oh no.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
Yeah, and then I was like, ok, but anyways.
So she and so we went to bedbecause she sleeps with me.
And then I whatever that likeher stomach was making so much
noise, that like, and you weretalking about farting newly.
Oh my God, I couldn't stoplaughing, because guys farts
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like they would have knockedeverybody out.
They could have killed Trump,they were so bad.
And it's weird, because shedoesn't do that.
She just she's the most politedog ever, like she doesn't fart
in the house at all.
If she does, she'll go outside.
It's really funny.
But anyway, it's about threeo'clock in the morning.
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She just puked.
Oh no, her heart rate was going.
She was really lethargic.
So I was like, ok, will I waittill morning and take her to the
vet, or will I go now?
Because there's only one vethospital in the whole county.
If you're looking at a map ofIreland, I live in Mayo, like
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mayonnaise, that's the name ofit.
It's the second biggest countyin Ireland and there's only one
vet hospital.
There's loads of vets butthere's only one small animal
vet hospital, which isridiculous.
So I call them and then you getthrough to an answering machine
or an answering service andthen they're like, oh, if it's
(30:13):
an emergency, please call thisnumber.
I'm like, just give me somebodyon the phone, will you Anyways
call the number, and then youalmost have to leave a message.
So I'm trying to pick up thisdisgusting vomit off the floor
and she's just, and then sheruns into the bathroom and she's
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puking in the bathroom andshe's the work.
She was so sick, it was just soquick yeah the first thing that
came to mind was, I don't knowwhy, but I was like I think
she's got pancreatitis, I don'tknow why, because I think I was
reading something about it.
But so I was making, I make upher food and I was giving her
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ground lamb.
And I didn't know this, becausesky loves lamb, right, but lamb
is full of congealed fat andit's that congealing, that kind
of, causes that problem oh manyeah I didn't know that yeah, I
didn't know that either.
(31:17):
So if you talk to roddy cole'smom his who mom she is a vet
tech.
So she's yeah, it's basicallydiet related.
So, because I would make up big, huge batches for a month and I
would put Sky's dog food, whichis like grain free, organic
stuff for whatever, and then I'dadd lamb and like basmati rice
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and beef right when I wastalking to the vet, anyways,
whatever.
When we finally got her there,they straight away they put her
on IV.
Her temperature was up, she wasreally like.
She was like somebody who'dbeen drugged, she was like super
lethargic and she was just toosick and she just doesn't get
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sick.
Do you know what I mean?
Anyways, long story short, sothat's what she has.
She has mild pancreatitis andit's as a result of me
unknowingly feeding her too muchman that has concealed fat in
it, because dogs apparentlydon't now, I don't didn't know
this either.
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They don't digest like fat, isit?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
whatever, like we do yeah, you have to be very
careful with how much fat is inyour yeah, if I was having pork
chops.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
I didn't want the pork chops, I wanted the fat
that was.
So of course I gave it to her.
I was like I can't say no toyou, but anyhow, that's yeah.
So of course I felt like prettycrappy.
But I went to see her today.
She was much better.
They'd given her something fornausea and they put her on just
an IV because she was moredehydrated than anything.
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But she's fine.
So the vet was like you know,um, you can pick her up probably
on Monday or Tuesday, because Iyeah, so like where the
hospital is.
I worked there there on aTuesday, so I was like it might
be Tuesday, but they have tokeep doing blood work because
they have to get her stable.
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Yeah, no, but it's not evenstable, it's just they have to
get a certain part of her bloodlevel down.
Yeah, they need to get it likewithin normal ranges or whatever
, because it's elevated.
I, honestly, and I didn't have abenchmark for what Skye's, what
normal for Skye would be.
So, anyways, but she was fine,so I brought down her.
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I brought her like her blankieand I had slept in it, like last
night or whatever time.
I ended up going to bed becauseyou know the way with dogs, if
they have something that smellsnormal, they're human or
whatever it relaxes them.
So I slept in it, specifically,we gave her that and she, and
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then she has this stuffy thatshe's had since she was a pup
and it's her favorite and she'llsuck on it Like I call her her
soother, yeah.
And then, of course, she wascrying, and then I was like, oh
my gosh, I'm leaving you.
Oh, but it was weird, cause thefirst, like the night that I
took her down there, I was likethey were like we gotta get this
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on her.
I was like I three, fouro'clock in the morning, I'm not
leaving her, I'm lying on thefloor with her and you can call
the cops if you want.
But all I could think about,though, apart from Skye, was
poor Kuno, because I keptthinking, oh, my god, I can't
imagine if I brought her hereand I didn't bring her home, but
yeah, I guess I'm good ininverted commas.
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Result he said she'll recoverfully.
She just can't eat no more,given her bacon.
But Skye doesn't know that yetbecause she loves bacon.
Because the joke, of course, onDoug Twitter is what was it
Kuno said something about shesmells better than bacon.
I can't remember, but yeah,yeah, so that's basically poor
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sky and I feel so bad becauseI'm like why the hell didn't?
I know this, I've had dogs foryears.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I guess it's just yeah, patricia, I think uh,
sorry, I didn't mean to to cutyou off.
There it is.
I want to thank you just fortelling us about this, because
that's you don't know what youdon't know until you know it.
And thank you for coming up totell us about that, because who
knows somebody listening thatmight help their dog out.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
So I really appreciate that yeah, I think
maybe do something on that,because you know the way you do
it on different dog breeds.
Maybe you guys could do,because I haven't had a huge
amount of sleep and it's almosttwo in the morning so I'm gonna
hype off, not wanting to be rude.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, okay, I'll shut up now all right, patricia,
thank you so much for sharingtonight and we're just happy
that sky is going to be okay.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Thank you thank you, thank you okay, thanks for
sharing tonight and we're justhappy that Sky is going to be
okay.
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Okay, I'm going to stay upthere.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Okay, take care.
Thanks, patricia, that's ascary thing leaving your dog at
the vet, like when we had toleave Bunsen overnight.
That was really tough yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, like super tough.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah, super tough.
Yeah, yeah, thanks for sharing,patricia.
Who's next holly?
Yeah, okay, hi, holly, go aheadhi, so you.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
When we were talking about that certain wiener dog
breed earlier, I never heardthem called a dash, and until I
came to canada, yeah this issupposed to be a Canadian thing,
because in the US they'redachshunds or dachshies, and at
one time I actually spoke Germanand the German pronunciation
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would be dachshund.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There you go.
I knew there was a differentpronunciation and I butchered it
when I was trying it.
So yeah, thank you forcorrecting me.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
But anyway, just oddball things.
But in news of the pethousehold we had our once a year
snowfall and Sasha was justecstatic.
She's one of these dogs thatwhen it snows she goes into full
on zoomy mode, which is a lot,because she's pretty lazy like
Bunsen is because she's like ayear younger than Bunsen.
(37:26):
But yeah, the snow comes outand it's almost like you know
how burners are in Sasha's waytoo, where they just can run
faster in the snow than they canon dry land, and it's like
she's fascinated with the factthat she can run fast.
She got about three days ofthere being enough snow on the
ground to make her happy, whichwas wonderful.
(37:47):
And my other little bit of newsis she and our cat Toby have
hit a milestone.
They have figured out how toplay.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yay.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
I am so happy for them.
So basically, toby bats at her.
Sometimes he just hits her inthe head, him.
So basically, toby bats at her.
Sometimes he just hits her inthe head and she's figured out
that she bows and jumps and thenpretends to chase him and then
he parkours around the room andshe's now started where she
actually will pick her paw upand she's not hitting him.
I think she knows that he'slittle, but she's just waving
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her paw towards him and hereally likes that.
But she's just waving her pawtowards him and he really likes
that.
One other quick story I have acolleague who has a great
Pyrenees puppy who is fivemonths old now and with the snow
we had this last week, so helets his puppy out into the back
and his dog's reaction to snowfor the first time was to lay
(38:43):
down in it and sleep for threehours.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yep yeah, pyrenees are even.
I think Pyrenees are even moreimpervious to the cold than
Bernice mountain dogs, yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
So it's just.
I find it amusing to see dogsdifferent reactions to snow.
Of course, when I had my lastgreyhound, her reaction to snow
was ew, my feet are wet, I'mgoing inside.
Of course, when I had my lastgreyhound, her reaction to snow
was ew, my feet are wet, I'mgoing inside.
But anyway, I just want to saythat I'm loving all of the
Valentine's Day love going ondog Twitter.
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It is just so sweet.
And I definitely would say thatMummy Fave will always be
Bunsen's Valentine.
That much is true.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's pretty true, yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Yeah, yeah, you are the mummy fave there.
There's been dad guysoccasionally useful, but most
dog dads fall into that.
Yeah, occasionally useful tocategory.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I think we're helpful when it's time to get to feed
them.
That's about it.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Exactly, or if they need to be picked up for some
reason.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
But yes, I hope Bunsen feels better soon.
Spinal issues are weird.
I have spinal stenosis in my L3to L5 and it has weird effects,
like sometimes my legs willjust feel like cinder blocks.
I don't have back pain, I justmy legs don't want to work.
And it's so weird how, if yourspine becomes inflamed, the
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nerves it can push on and do oddthings too.
I'm also going to say I knewChris was right that it was the
alien space baby that causedBunsen's face to deteriorate and
then, once it was gone, hisface grew back.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I know his face grew back.
Good job, buddy.
You grew your face back.
That's what I tell him everyday Good job.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I told you I knew Chris was right, so there you go
.
So anyway, everyone enjoy therest of their weekend.
I'm gonna go and cook dinnerwhile I listen to the rest of
the wonderful nonsense on thischat yay, yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I.
We agree the sweet.
Sometimes social media can getvery serious and I was thinking
I was feeling a little seriousand it's good to be a little
silly and a little sweet and Ihope the Valentine's Day stuff
comes through that way.
Who is next Chris?
Is it Christy?
That's Miss Penelope.
(41:16):
Is she next?
Sure?
Yeah, okay, thanks for waiting,and we've got a couple more
speakers.
We'll get to you.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Good evening, hello, hi, can you hear me?
Yep, yes, good, that's mylittle piper in the picture.
She's a three-year-oldchihuahua and two weeks ago,
saturday, she got sick and I hadto take her to the vet.
I, she was fine friday and shewoke up and she was just
vomiting like it wasn't it wasclear, but it had foam on it so
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it was just nasty and she feltreally warm and she's.
I take her every month aroundthe sixth of each month for her
allergy shot and she is on laceat one lay, six in the morning
and half of a heart pill atnight because her heart's a
little enlarged and that's verynormal for Chihuahuas Heart
murmurs or enlarged heart.
Like this dog has better carethan most people in the world.
(42:11):
I'm serious, this is how well Itake care of her.
And I knew that she neverthrows up and I knew something
was wrong.
I make her food I've made itsince we've got her so and then
she takes a liquid vitamin atnight and liquid vitamin and her
salmon oil at night and I knewsomething was wrong.
(42:32):
Oh God, I'm going to startcrying.
So I got her to the doc, theemergency vet, and they did an
x-ray and they said that herliver was a little enlarged, but
that could have been from herheart too, because and the blood
work and stuff they knew herfever was 103, and so they knew
there was an infection from theblood work.
They just couldn't, so theygave her three shots one for
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nausea, gave her a b12 to boosther immune system, and then a
really strong antibiotic, andthat was, oh, she was there all
day, she wasn't dehydratedthough, and, oh my god, nine
o'clock last Saturday she passedaway in my arms.
That was, oh, she was there allday, she wasn't dehydrated,
though, and, oh my God, at 9o'clock last Saturday she passed
away in my arms.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Did you hear that?
And I don't.
We don't know why.
We said it must have been afast-moving infection because
she was fine on Friday and Ididn't have an autopsy done.
I just couldn't.
I had her cremated and she's ina beautiful little pink urn.
But it was like to me, it waslike I'd lost a child and I
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don't know what happened and Ikeep going over my mind what
could have been?
I've been researching I'm anurse for 38 years and I've just
been going over it and so herdoctor, I just sent her the
report that I got.
They sent it to me and I'm justwaiting to see what she thinks
from her vet, because I can'teven imagine what would have
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been so fast-moving to make herso sick in just a few hours.
I thought maybe somebody hereknows something.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Oh, I'm just so sorry .
I'm so sorry about that.
I put Princess Piper in thenest for people to take a look
at.
You've got a lot of wonderfulmessages coming in on live.
People are just heartbroken.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
It's just been really hard and so it's been very
lonely.
So my granddaughter lives withus while she goes to college,
but she's never here.
But I have a cat here and hercat has just not left me alone.
He's right here with me rightnow and it's like he must know
because he will not leave myside and he's been sleeping with
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me, which is really odd.
So he cuddles up to me at nightand I'm just thinking, I'm
sorry for crying.
He must know that something'sbecause he and piper play.
Well, piper was the mean oneand the cat would bat at him,
bat at her and pipe.
I mean they would get thezoomies together.
But I'm thinking, but theseanimals must know, they just
(45:13):
have to.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah yeah I don't know animals feel, you know, the
same big emotions that we feel,and they do feel grief and they
do sense grief and they knowwhen we're sad.
They know when we're sad yeah,so anyway I guess
yeah, I'm not a vet, I can'ttell you.
Oh I know.
I do have to say that.
I do have to say that had whenbunsen was so sick with his his
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growth, I caught it because I itwas during the summer and I'm a
teacher, so so I had time offwork.
Right, I was around him at thattime and it it has crossed my
mind many times that if I wastwo hours on either side he
would have died probably.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Right.
If he got just the straw, brokethe camel's back late at night
and both Chris and I weresleeping, or if we had he was at
a kennel or something or wewere at work.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, cause it was not quite school.
If it happened in September,then he would have been at home.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
And I guess, like sometimes you just never know, I
don't know why I'm saying this.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
It's just that.
No, I understand.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, sometimes you just you're in the right place
at the right time with youranimal, and sometimes it doesn't
matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, and I know when she likes dogs, cats, they're
like us.
They have their days.
They don't feel good forwhatever reason and I knew that
day that it just wasn't.
She was not feeling good, shewas sick and I could feel her
tummy.
And I told she was not feelinggood, she was sick and I could
feel her tummy and I told myhusband.
I said we're going to theurgent care right now.
I said she's hot and she's notfeeling good and she's very
(46:50):
lethargic.
And we were at the at theurgent care by 9 30 in the
morning or quarter after nineand no, we're driving through a
blizzard and everything.
And we got there and they tooka ride in.
They were amazing and they werevery.
I don't think the vet was asshocked, I think, but they just
didn't think.
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They told me if she's not betterby Monday, of course I was
going to take her into a regularvet, but they said she could
also.
Just the antibiotics may justtake 24 hours and she could be
back to her old self.
The next day, which had beenSunday, and unfortunately I was
laying in bed with her and Ipicked her up and was just
looking at her and next day Ilooked at her again and she was
gone and I think, oh my God,what did I miss as a nurse, as a
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dog mom, what did I miss withthis?
It just keeps going in my headbecause I just knew everything
about this dog, because I'm withher 24-7 as a retired nurse now
and I just don't know.
It's just something that was sofast.
I've seen, unfortunately, as amidwife and a baby nurse.
(47:54):
I've seen babies pass withinhours because they get septic
for whatever reason, and I thinkthat's what happened to Piper.
She was an infection and shegot septic and that's all I know
yeah and it was fast.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
We all can go from relatively healthy to very sick
very quickly um that's yes, butthank you everyone, for, yeah,
I'm just so, we're chris and Iare just so sorry.
A lot of people are saying, ofcourse you're gonna feel the way
that you feel and that's, butdon't beat yourself up about it.
You did all you could.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, I thought that all we could beat myself up, but
I'm not doing it anymorebecause I did my absolute best
as a mom.
Darling, she was taken care ofevery month.
She was very well taken care of.
Yeah, yeah.
But thank you everybody.
I'll let you go on to the nextperson.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Okay, take buddy, I'll let you go on to the next
person.
Okay, take care.
Thank you to everybody youputting really nice messages,
thank you.
There's probably like 30messages from live just saying
they're so sorry for your loss.
You did all you could.
They can't tell us what's wrongwith them.
You just have to try your best.
People are just so very sorry,so thank you for sharing.
Okay, your best.
(49:08):
People are just so very sorry,so thank you for sharing.
Okay, we will go to jamie andthen to tracy.
Hi, jamie, this, go ahead goodmorning chrissy.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
I'm really sorry for your loss.
I do understand.
We've been through it justrecently ourselves.
Um changing this up, changingthe tone a bit, it's still
raining here in townsville right, it was raining last week.
It hasn't stopped no, no, it hasnot stopped.
(49:35):
We're up over 800 mils of rainwow.
For february and for the year,we've already got our average
rainfall.
So everything is wet and muddyand things are turning blue with
mold in front of us.
Oh man, oh, it's feral, it'sdisgusting.
(49:58):
The poor chickens live in a mudpit and we cut a whole heap of
long grass for them yesterdayand I spread it out as much as I
could to give them some more alittle bit of different surface
to pad around in, but of coursethat means you've got to wear a
(50:19):
trench through the mud to get inand out of the chook yard.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
And this morning the dogs got up and ran and ran and
ran and then came upstairs andRose's nice little white socks
were the same colour as the restof her.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
So muddy.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
Rose is a black dog with white socks.
She's a border kelpie.
Yes, she was so muddy andTennessee was muddy with her,
and tennessee is a big shaggywhite wolfhound crop, oh man.
So she was black as well, andriver was just upstairs going.
(51:01):
Oh children, they're disgustingthose children.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, that's Bunsen to.
When Beaker and Bernoulli gotso dirty every day in the summer
.
Bunsen's like what is yourproblem?
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Stay out of the mud.
Yeah, river's turned into amiddle-aged man.
He's just like, oh, mud, ickand yeah, and now Rose is tired
and River's exhausted just frombeing disappointed in the
children.
But they're otherwise, they'rehealthy and yes, they just.
(51:37):
They're getting stir crazy,though, because it is so
disgusting and they can't goswimming in the creek because
the creek looks like a chocolatemilkshake and it's flowing so
fast that if you let them swimin there, they'd be five
kilometers downstream in aheartbeat.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
It's not safe yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
Oh no, not safe at all, so they're stir crazy.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I feel like we have similar situations at the same
time.
You have so much rain, it's sogross, you can't go outside, and
then for us, it gets sofreezing cold you just die if
you go outside.
So we have this yeah we havethe same problem
Speaker 4 (52:20):
yeah, yeah, and like my, I went to.
We got stay at home from workon Monday because it was raining
so heavily, and then on TuesdayI went into the office but and
about 15 months ago the roof onour office building was replaced
(52:41):
because it leaked.
It didn't work.
We still have waterfallsrunning down the walls.
The PowerPoints beside my deskto plug my computer into got wet
and so they weren't working,and so the carpets were wet and
everything was wet and it wasall stinky and horrible.
(53:02):
So we all got sent home to workfrom home, oh God, so I've been
home all week, but if the roofdidn't get fixed by getting
completely replaced, the waterand it's still raining the
office is still going to bestinky.
So I can't see going to townthis week either.
(53:23):
It's wild.
We've had bridges wash away.
We've got our major dam downthe road from us.
Is it over 200 capacity at themoment?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
yeah, there's a lot of water yeah, it sounds like
it's turning from annoying intodangerous, so I hope you stay
safe.
Like it's, it's fun to jokeabout when it gets lots of snow
or whatever.
It reaches a point where youknow joking stops and it's
dangerous to everybody yeah,there's so many potholes on the
(53:58):
road.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
My daughter is getting my husband to drive her
to work at the moment becauseshe's got a smaller car and he's
got a huge, so higher clearance, so he's driving her to and
from work.
Yeah, it's not the best placeat the moment, but the dogs are
good, that's good.
(54:19):
So that's the important bit atthe moment, but the dogs are
good, that's good.
Love to everybody and love toBunsen to rest up and cuddles
for all the others.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
No worries, thanks.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
We have a saying in Canada when it gets really cold,
we always end with stay warm,so I guess, stay dry.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Stay dry.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Take care, jamie.
Okay, we'll go to Tracy.
Tracy, thanks for waiting.
You were at the end of thequeue.
It's been a great show.
You're up, go ahead, tracy.
Speaker 6 (54:55):
Hi Tracy, hi everyone .
Hope you guys are doing good.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
We are, and it's good to hear from you.
Hopefully you're well.
Yeah, I'm doing well.
I just actually got back fromvacation to Mexico.
Speaker 6 (55:09):
So what?
That was nice.
Yeah, I did.
I saved up my paid time off,did an all-inclusive spot oh,
that's awesome got margaritasbrought right to me if I wanted
them, so it was great.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
That's awesome.
Chris knows a little bit aboutthat.
That's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, it was.
Jason would make the margaritasfor me and then he would put
extra drink in it.
It's a problem, yeah.
Speaker 6 (55:31):
And then I did a tequila tasting where the worker
like poured the shots, so I waslike half shots and then it was
still like definitely enough,because you had like eight
different types of tequila.
You're trying.
And then I had my sister watchthe cats.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
I got back yesterday and they have been glued to me
Aw, they're like where'd you?
Go and you're like tequila.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (56:02):
Yes, so I had Amy sleeping near my feet and Holt
was sleeping near my head andjust hung out most of today.
I don't go back to work untilFebruary 14th.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (56:16):
So I took 13 days and it's all paid.
So it's good Nice.
I'm happy for you.
That's great.
Thank you, definitely neededthe vacation yeah definitely
missed my cats while I was gone,but I knew they were in good
hands and they're healthy andhappy and they love everyone
(56:37):
they meet, so it's all good.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I love that I put a picture of Amy and Holt up in
the nest for people to see onaudio.
They're super cute.
They're like tuxedo cats blackand white.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
And if you're on live , it's just Bernoulli sleeping.
I'm not sure where Bunsen andBeaker went, but that's,
bernoulli is just sleeping.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
So Beaker's on this side, closer to our bedroom, and
Bunsen's over by the bench.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
How I put a box up.
There's no room there.
Why would she go there?
That's so weird, I don't know.
Tracy, I'm glad you had a greatvacation.
We all need a vacation everynow and again and I know the
last vacation that you and Iwent on chris is a couple.
Speaker 6 (57:22):
the worst part about it was I was missing the dogs
big time, like they're a hugepart of our life, like in the
morning, um when we went to theeclipse yeah, yeah, I was
missing the dogs yeah, I wasdefinitely missing the cats, but
also, like when I did theeclipse, I just went right back
to work the next day and I wasexhausted for a few more days
(57:43):
after that.
So I'm like I'm not doing thatthis time.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yeah, we christened on it.
Yeah, we retired too, but thankGod it was at the end of the
school year, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (57:52):
No, it was April, it was right by my birthday, it was
like April.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, beginning of april right, that's what that
was me that month so long as wewe came back right in the
busiest month of teaching.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah, that week back was brutal yeah, and jason, I'm
like, are you sure you want totravel on april 6th?
Like you're like, oh yeah,let's travel on april 6th.
I'm like, are you sure you wantto travel on april 6th?
Oh my god like, yeah, I saidit's my birthday and you're like
, oh, I've already booked it.
Oh, I guess I'm traveling likeon a red eye flight thing on my
(58:25):
birthday, okay, I took you tosee the eclipse for your
birthday, so that's a prettygood birthday present.
The eclipse was on the eighth.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
It was close.
Close counts in hand shoes,close counts in hand and poor
shoes and hand grenades anddancing.
Yeah, somebody was asking wherejamie's from.
It's australia.
So yeah, she's from australia.
I thought the accent gave itaway.
It could be new zealand, thoughthere are a lot of australians
that live in british columbialike other parts of the world.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, but no, jamie is definitely from australia and
she's invited me to go there tobe, I don't want to go in the
rain season, though no, I wantto go like when it's like
stinking hot yeah, it'd be aproblem for alphaba, wouldn't
she?
Speaker 1 (59:09):
wouldn't that be a problem?
How would she survive inaustralia?
Speaker 2 (59:12):
alphaba.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Alphaba, because she's from the wizard from
wicked yeah, no, that's her namethe wicked witch of the west.
First name is alpha Okay.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
I know we watched that movie together.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
You know what, as musicals go, it was good I have.
I would give that eight out of10, and I'm not a musical guy.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
This is what Jason does.
He he rests his hand on hishead like this, so I can't see
that he's sleeping whenever wego.
Yeah, jason's doing it too.
That's what he does whenever wego to a musical, because he's
just oh, he wants to not showthat he's sleeping.
We went to carmen, oh my god,and I wanted to go so badly I
(59:59):
got that for your birthday, formy birthday.
Yeah, when was this back in?
Like 1992 anyway?
No, it probably was like 1996we went and you were like it was
brutal and then I told you I'mlike are you enjoying it?
and you're like I have no ideawhat they're talking about.
I have no idea, like anintermission about I have no
idea.
Like at intermission, I saidthey have subtitles at the
(01:00:20):
bottom there.
You said what there's subtitlesthere's dubbed in English, and
then I think the second act wasbetter, but the roads were awful
.
There was a brutal snowstorm onthe way home.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Generally not a fan of musicals.
I am a fan of one musical andI've watched it probably 30
times.
You know what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I was going to say you were a fan of the book of
Mormon.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Okay, you're on the right track.
You're getting hot.
Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
What would Brian Boytano do?
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah, south park, the South park movie, which is a
musical.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
The South park movie.
It is a musical.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah, I Park movie, which is a musical.
The South Park movie, it is amusical.
Yeah, one of my top 10 favoritesongs of all time is Blame
Canada.
I love that movie so much,anyways, okay, so we're out of
speakers.
We'll wrap up.
We're running a little bit overhere.
I'm just checking the chat.
Thank you for the updates onBunsen's health.
(01:01:19):
Okay, perfect.
Yeah, we went a bit long, sothank you for everybody who
stuck through.
Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
It was me.
It was my long story long, itwas my short story long.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I had to go deal with stuff upstairs, so you were
talking anyways, so people areyeah, and I just kept talking.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So this is what Jason says to me he's oh, hello, it's
Christopher talking here,Christopher Walken, and he talks
weird Like I'm ChristopherWalken, but it's Christopher
talking.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
I just keep talking here, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
We love it when Chris talks.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yeah, you get a lot of.
I'm like I came back and I'mlike you haven't even talked
about the MRI yet and that waslike 20 minutes ago, but I guess
you had, so I was justconcerned, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Okay, this is the other thing, Jason.
You don't get to the point.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
You get to the point eventually.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Eventually.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
But you're a math teacher, you have to get to the
point eventually.
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I do, I get to the point, I get to.
The variable X is equal to.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
See like I'm a.
And then the prestige I call itmathemagic.
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I'm like what Hooray, we got to the answer.
It's mathemagic, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
That's it Time to wrap up.
We're going to play Kahootagain.
Thank you to everybody who cametoday.
It's a bit longer, but we hadlots of people with heartfelt
stories.
We're always here for folks toshare their wins, but also
sometimes the the really sadparts of pet ownership.
Next week We'll be really sweetwith what Chris and I got
cooking for Valentine's day Over.
(01:03:00):
Next week will be really sweetwith what Chris and I got
cooking for Valentine's Day Overto you, chris.
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Thank you everybody for coming.
We appreciate you listening toour stories and sharing your
stories with us.
In the community Grow togetherand we learn from each other,
and I think that's important andI'm excited about continuing to
do the podcast and be here withyou.
Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, okay, take care everybody.
Hello pet enthusiasts .
My name is Jason Zakowski.
I'm the dog dad of Bunsen,Beaker and Bernoulli the science
dogs of social media.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
My co-host is Hi there, I'm Chris Zakowski.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm also Slim, slim shady on the kahoot game and I
am the dog mom to bunsen, beakerand bernoulli and the cat mom
to ginger every week on saturdaywe let everybody know what's
going on with the dogs and thenabout halfway through the show
about 20, half an hour or so 25minutes we open up the floor to
(00:43):
questions and for folks to comeup on audio to tell their own
stories about what's going on.
Yeah, I think the main thingthat we'll just touch on first
is how Bunsen's doing, becausethat's like a main question that
we keep getting.
So Monday you took him toCalgary, chris, is that correct?
Yeah, I sure did.
(01:05):
Okay, so can you talk aboutthat, because I wasn't there for
it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So we went.
I asked Annalise if she couldpossibly come with because of
her schedule with school.
She's able to, she doesn't haveclass after class and her
Anyway, her schedule allowed itbecause she's taking music
instruction up in edmonton butthat her music instructor is on
(01:31):
holiday.
So, perfect, I'm like, awesome,you can come, great.
And so we packed up the car,the van, and we were gone at 7
am.
I said let's leave at 7.
We didn't leave at 7 because Idon't know how time works, but
we got to the place by nineo'clock, which was when we were
supposed to arrive, and we tookBunsen in and they said, ok, can
(01:51):
you sign this paperwork?
And I said yeah, and they'relike, ok, we're going to take
him and then you'll get a call.
And I said I want to talk,maybe about his medical history.
And they're like, oh no, wehave all that stuff Because you
and I, jason, had gone throughthe medical history the night
previous, the night prior, tojust make sure I didn't forget
(02:12):
anything that I wanted to talkabout.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Nope, you're going to say goodbye to Bunsen.
So I took a picture of him andI said bye, bye, buddy.
And then Annalise and I werelike what are we going to do?
And we happened to see aMarshall's on our way in and we
were going to go to Ikea.
And then we drove to Ikea butit opened at 10am, so we were
(02:36):
early.
And then she said Can we go forsome breakfast?
And so we went to Starbucks andthen we went to Marshall's.
And that's when Dr Diaz calledand he's okay, based on my my
exam, I he's having trouble inhis neck and I believe he needs
an MRI.
And I said okay.
(02:56):
And he said now, please tell me, he did have a CT scan or a CAT
scan in in like June, may, june, and he said there was atrophy
of his head.
And he said I'm not seeing anyevidence of atrophy of his head.
And I said oh no, he grew hishead back.
I told.
I said Bunsen, great job, yougrew your head back and he's all
(03:21):
that's interesting.
And then he talked to.
He talked about what it couldbe.
He had three ideas that itcould be.
It could have been like thetapeworm cyst parasite actually
being alive in Bunsen and in hisbrain he's.
I don't know if that's likely.
And then he talked aboutmeningitis and he said there
might be a 30% chance ofmeningitis and he didn't really
(03:43):
talk about the herniated disc,but that's what it turned out to
be.
So Bunsen went for an MRI and Iwas trying to get ahold of
Jason because I didn't want tomake a decision without Jason.
And he told me.
Jason told me.
He said I am going todefinitely be by my phone, so
when you text me I'm going to beable to answer.
He's like I'm teaching, but Ican answer the text.
(04:05):
So I text nothing.
I text again nothing.
I call nothing.
Text again, no reply.
Text again, call again nothing.
And so what I did is?
I called the school.
I said hello, hi, can I pleasebe patched through to Mr Zek?
Please be packed through to MrZakowski's classroom and Jason
(04:28):
Zakowski's classroom.
And the receptionist said Areyou a parent?
No, I'm his wife.
And then he answered the phone.
He answered the phone, he saidMr Zakowski speaking and I said,
hi, this is Mrs Zakowskispeaking.
And I said, hi, this is MrsZakowski speaking.
I need to talk to you aboutwhat the preliminary results are
(04:49):
and moving forward with an MRI.
And so now he's trying to belike, oh okay, and not giving
anything away, like he could betalking to the principal, maybe
calling asking for a student tobe sent to the office, or maybe
it was a counselor that wascalling to talk about attendance
or something, I don't know.
So he's being very like, notshort with his responses so that
(05:12):
someone wouldn't knownecessarily who he's talking to.
And jason's, let's go for it,let's do the mri, yeah.
And so, uh, we did now you'retalking about.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You called my classroom, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it wasjust a little awkward, that's
all.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Why, why.
What was awkward is that youweren't answering my text
messages or my calls when yousaid that you would be near your
phone.
I know you were teaching, butyou said that you would.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know.
I was in like a 25 minutelesson and that's probably like
I had a 25 minute likecontinuous talk.
Yeah, but anyways, so MRI.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Uh-huh Anyway.
So then the vet.
The vet said okay, and then Iwent back to the clinic and I
paid for it.
And then I paid 75, that's whatthey wanted, yeah.
And so I paid that.
And then she's like okay.
And I said, now we're going toIkea and for some retail therapy
.
And she's like you just spent alittle bit of money here.
(06:16):
Uh, I'm like, yeah, it's, we'regoing to Ikea.
So Annalise and I went to Ikeaand it was glorious.
Do you know why it was glorious, jason?
Because we weren't marathoningthrough the store.
You love to go as fast aspossible and skip sections.
Oh no, we went through thewhole map and picked up some
(06:37):
things, which was great.
So now I'm waiting for thecallback.
There's nothing.
And now you're texting mebecause you're on your lunch and
you're like did you hearanything?
I'm like, no, I haven't heardanything.
He's like.
And then you said I'm available.
I'm like, well, I know nothing.
And then what are we going todo?
What are we going to do afterthat?
We went to Costco and theCostco in Calgary where we went,
(06:58):
it was four minutes away.
Like all this stuff was likeright there.
And yeah, I know it's great.
And they have these soundbarrier things and I sent you a
picture.
I'm like hey, would you like asound?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
barrier thing.
Bernoulli is being bad.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, no, there's probably something on there,
jason.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay, you keep talking, I'll go save, I'll go
get Bernoulli off.
What is he taking?
Let's see what he gets.
I don't know, uh, nothing, hedidn't get anything okay, good,
there's nothing up there.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
There there's your things from amazon.
Yeah, that's fine.
Oh, he didn't get anything.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Keep going, oh you're stressing me out he's a guy.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, there we go oh, anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So I went to costco, got a few things, got these
panels that you're like, yeah,we'll get those.
Okay, yeah, bought those.
And then now, what are we gonnado?
So we went back to the clinic.
Now he's bringing beaker overto be bad anyway.
So then we went back to theclinic and I'm like, hi, I'm
(08:01):
back at the clinic and I enteredmarks into power school.
I'm back at the clinic and Ientered Mark's into power school
, so I did some work and sowe're waiting there.
And then I get a call, oh, hi,and it was Dr Diaz and he I
don't know what happened toJason.
Hopefully I'm still able totalk.
I just made the dogs the sololayout.
(08:25):
Oh, okay.
Then what happened?
Oh then, well, then I talked toDr Diaz and he said, yeah, it's
a herniated disc and this isthe treatment plan moving
forward.
I'm like, oh, that's awesome,thank you, that's great.
And then he's like when do youthink you might be like?
Bunsen will be ready to bepicked up at such and such to
like a little bit later?
I'm like, actually, we're at theclinic and he's oh, okay, let
me have the front staff callwith discharge instructions.
(08:46):
I'm like, okay, that's fine.
And so we're sitting therewaiting and Annalise actually
has a class at six o'clock andit's four o'clock when all this
is happening, and then I get acall from the front desk and
it's funny because I'm actuallyin the clinic and she said, oh,
he won't be ready for 45.
Because I said, oh, I'm in theclinic, oh, we're not ready.
(09:11):
And I'm like, oh, okay, that'sfine.
And then I said, alice, oh, no,like I don't know if we're
going to make it back to RedDeer for six o'clock.
But guess what Great news Herclass was online.
What a time to be alive to haveonline classes.
Anyway, so perfect.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I didn't have to rush got to the mri results yet yeah
, I did.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh okay, he has a herniated disc oh okay, you're
just okay yeah I said he has aherniated disc.
He hello, yeah, hi, everyone.
Welcome to pet chat yeah this ismy short story long because
that's how I tell them this.
This is why Jason doesn't letme have the camera or the mic
very often, but he says it's inhis C6-7, but radiology will
(10:01):
know for sure, because he'sgoing to send the results off to
radiology and they'll confirmexactly where the herniated disc
is.
Exactly where the herniateddisc is.
Anyway, then the 45 minutes toan hour came and went, and then
we were back at the clinic aftergoing to Superstore to get some
food, and then we took Bunsenhome with his herniated disc
(10:22):
yeah, in his neck.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Commonplace C6-7.
Commonplace for big breeds.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Commonplace for big breeds and then in little dogs
the commonplace is C2-3.
I learned that information andhe says it's been there quite a
while, so chronically, and so myquestion was could it have been
because he had that growingmass inside of him which would
have changed how he moved aroundand it was in his abdomen?
(10:50):
But maybe it's impacted hisneck?
And he said, no, I don't thinkso.
What was confirmed?
Ish?
He said it is possible that hegrew his face back after the
mask came out, because the maskwas impacting a nerve and
potentially his teeth andchewing on that one side.
(11:13):
So that was a victory for me.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I wonder who's been saying that ever since his head
grew back.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I wonder, I wonder who's been saying good job, you
grew your head back because yougot the tapeworm cyst removed.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't know who that person was.
Yeah, but everything isconnecting because months before
the summer like this ispre-Bernoulli we went to the
Comic-Con in Calgary and we tookthe dogs with us and the day we
got back Bunsen was walkingcrazy weird.
He was walking with his headsideways and I was like
(11:51):
terrified he had a stroke orsomething.
So we got him into the vet andthen by the an hour he was
walking normal again and thevets oh yeah, he's probably okay
.
Um, but you were you.
The vet had said that he hadprobably injured his neck long
time before it got really badand then maybe he just did
(12:12):
something and it was enough totweak it really bad.
End of November ish, end ofNovember ish is when we started
to notice his gait change.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And like when you have an injury and even if you
heal up from that injury, youcan really hurt yourself very
quickly, Even in humans.
You could sneeze and throw yourback out and then, oh no, my
back's ruined.
And then you get off the couchand you're like, oh, broken.
So it's really really verysimilar that the injury can just
(12:46):
self aggravate itself becausethe injury you're prone to
injury already, Because theinjury you're prone to injury
already.
And then he does have a bulgeon his 5'6", C5'6", which is
also related to the C6'7".
So he's got a couple thingsgoing on.
He's a good candidate forsurgery with an 80% success rate
(13:08):
.
But we're trying.
He said I would suggest notdoing surgery right away.
I would suggest the rest andrelaxation retreat which is what
we're doing with him is, andthen go from there, see how he's
doing in a couple weeks.
And we don't mind, he doesn'tmind.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
His favorite trick is down, stay yeah, he's a couch
potato, he is he's like verycontent not to play tug.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He's not allowed to play tug anymore, no collar.
He has to wear a harnessoutside, clicked up when we go
outside together.
Yeah, which is okay, becausethat's we don't mind doing that
for him.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah so if you're watching live, I've got the
bernou.
I moved the camera upstairs andbunsen is laying right down
next to bernoulli, which isreally cute, and we have that
section of our house likeblocked off.
As you can see, bunsen doesn'troar around unless somebody
comes to the door.
That's the only problem abouthaving him there, because he
really wants to see people thatcome to the door.
(14:03):
That's the door to the outsideof our house, so he's confined
to very small areas of the houseor he's on a leash on his
harness so he can't move verymuch.
And he, that is his life.
For two weeks he's on extremelow activity, no walks, just out
to go pee and poop and that'sthe only time.
That's what he gets to do.
(14:24):
If he wants to lie down outside, that's fine, but no activity
outside.
And then six weeks, four moreweeks after that, four to five
more weeks after that again verylimited.
Five more weeks after thatagain very limited activity.
And there is the hope that hewon't need surgery.
I think the neurologist said80% chance of success through
rest.
It will fix itself.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No 80%.
He's a good candidate forsurgery.
80% success rate with surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh, so what's rest then?
What's the percentage there?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We don't know 80% success rate with surgery.
Oh, so what's rest then?
What's the percentage there?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We don't know, oh, okay, but it could be as good as
it could be as good as 80%.
All right, just by resting itcould go up to 80%.
Okay, that's what you said.
Yeah, and we've done thisbefore.
Remember, the whole tapewormcyst came out and he was on rest
and small room, like, doesn'thave to be crated, he can be in
a small room or a small area.
But then, you may recall, hebroke his toe at four months and
(15:19):
we had him on like rest thentoo.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That was way worse, though, because he was a puppy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That was way that was way worse when he was a puppy.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, so jen is asking how jen from is watching
on twitter slash x.
Uh, how is he doing with therest?
He's actually doing fine, likeI think.
Like you can see, he's content.
Um, sometimes we have toseparate him in a different room
and he doesn't necessarily likethat because he wants to be
with people.
But if he's with people or hedoesn't see people, like right
(15:48):
now, he's totally fine.
He's just chilling withbernoulli right now and
Bernoulli is not being dumb andjumping on him.
So if that was happening, we'dhave to separate them.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, so Bernoulli's calmed down quite a bit.
We also had vasectomy,bernoulli, at the same time.
All of this was happening.
Welcome to our life ofshenanigans.
So Bernoulli is actually a lotcalmer than he was, because
before he was jumpy in bunsen'sface and bunsen didn't like that
and we didn't know why bunsendidn't like that.
(16:19):
Probably now we do, because hewas in a lot of pain or he was
not sure-footed, so he's oh mygod, here comes a dog and can't
defend myself.
Now things are way smoother andwhat I do is, when I leave in
the morning, you can see rightbehind the coat there that's a
room that we put Bunsen in andyou've probably seen the pen
(16:41):
that we have in there.
So he's confined in that smallroom, smaller room in a smaller
pen, and I give him Kong in themorning and I also give him his
high-dose drugs.
So he has gabapentin andoxycodone yeah he has those two,
and so I give him one, and thenat night we give him the other,
(17:04):
so he it may cause drowsiness,which is perfect because then
he'll sleep all night yeah, he'sa good boy, though it's not
like he is a good boy he'sfairly easy to manage because
he's such a good dog.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, all right .
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So enough about Bunsen, the news is yeah, I have
monopolized the whole thing.
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
No people wanted to know.
That was like the number onecomment.
I did a live walk on Instagramand that was people were wanting
to know about his, how Bunsenwas doing and, as I said, there
could have been it could havebeen way worse the diagnosis,
right.
This is something thatpotentially he will get better
from, just with rest, andobviously he's been through
(17:43):
pretty traumatic surgery, so wedidn't want to have surgery
again.
We wanted to wait.
So if he does need surgery,that's going to be way down the
line and then we have to decidethat's the best for him to have
another big surgery, but theneurologist said he's a really
good candidate for it, so that'sgood.
I'm just so happy it's not.
You know there and again we're.
We've been so lucky with bunsenand that it's not lost on me
(18:06):
that other people are not luckywith the diagnosis with their
pets, right?
I just wanted to mention thatif you have had a bad diagnosis
with your pet, chris and I arealways thinking about that.
We're always cognizant of that.
Okay, before we get to speakers, I think we should just quickly
do some updates on Bernoulliand on Bernoulli and Beaker,
(18:29):
because it's been the Bunsenshow, even though Bunsen's the
bestest boy.
So today Bernoulli askedChesney, the service Rottweiler
to be his Valentine, and then,of course, she said yes, so
there will be she said, woofly,absolutely, that's right.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So-.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Absolutely yeah, so that was very cute.
You will all see some veryadorable footage next week
around Valentine's Day with theChesnouli, as they've been
dubbed.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That was really fun, the power couple, the Canadian
power couple.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
That was really fun.
And then again the wonderfulBenny Benson, benny for short,
and I see Benny and Bowie, akathe beans, are here, benny.
We had another long.
Every Valentine's Day we do alittle Zoom date.
I know it seems weird, but it'sactually really fun and really
sweet.
And we had a Zoom date withLisa, lisa's the dog, mom of
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Benny, and it was very sweet.
That's also going to be thewhole footage will be around
valentine's day.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Beaker looked so cute in her stuff, chris, that you
got for her um I know, and I setthe room up and bunsen didn't
puke on it this year.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh, yeah, he puked last year.
He just threw up.
He threw up those.
It was a treat.
Right, it was some kind of likevalentine's treat.
We gave them from some placeyeah yeah, so that's what's
going on with beaker and newlyand they both did great, because
there's there has to be alittle bit of movie magic to
make it work, like the dog hasto hold the position, and then
(20:03):
I'm gonna have to use someartful editing.
So hopefully you guys all enjoythat.
Next week I think we'll post itprobably thursday night, just
because fr Friday's busy withtext from Bunsen, so you'll be
able to enjoy it Thursday nightand all Friday.
The video.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And lots of people from the future.
It's Valentine's Day before.
It's Valentine's Day for us.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's right.
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So that is true.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, why is Bernoulli?
His butt is right in front ofthe camera.
Yeah, why is Bernoulli right in?
His butt is right in front ofthe camera.
I don't know.
Get your butt out of the camera, bernoulli.
Okay, he's going to lay down.
Did you see?
He was licking ginger offcamera.
Ginger tried to get by andBernoulli trapped her and he's
(20:48):
going to land, and then she wentdownstairs.
I noticed that.
So, and to wrap that up,bernoulli is healed and he's
going to Waggles like Monday, noTuesday or Monday.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, they're not open Monday but Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So we'll cross our fingers that there's no humpy
humpy behavior or anything likethat, because this is all.
Waggles is the first dogthey've let have a vasectomy
instead of a full neuter.
Come to class.
So yeah, there we go, all right.
Anything else to say.
Should we move to answeringquestions and letting folks
(21:24):
speak who want to talk abouttheir pets or ask us questions?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, I have nothing else, okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So if you're on audio and you want to come up to
speak, we'd love to have youListen to your story about your
pet.
If you have some questions forus, go ahead and then type up
your questions.
If you're watching live, I'lldo my best to ping pong around
and get to them.
I'm watching like a phone, twotabs, so it's a bit.
Chris is bringing some peopleup to speak.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
We got.
Yeah, chris is bringing somepeople up to speak.
Hey, yeah, oh hi, I was goingto go with Robert first, and
then Patricia and then Holly.
That's the order that came up,thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Excellent.
Can you hear me now?
I can.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, hi, robert, we can Excellent.
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
I used to be.
In the 1980s I joined a companyand we started designing some
of the early MRI machines Whoaand by the late 90s I was
working in a university hospitalwith doing research on some of
the MRI machines and one of thethings we did at night was we
did some of the early dog andcat MRIs no way For a local vet,
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yes, and it was for humans only, but we'd sneak them in at
night and then the vet had afriend at the zoo and then they
started sneaking zoo animals in.
We did a lion with a foot drop,we did hyenas, we did all kinds
of amazing and interestingthings.
(22:56):
It was very fun, but it was allcovert and we had to scrub
everything down so it didn'tsmell like zoo the next day.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh my God, what a wild story, Robert.
Oh, it was fun Okay what wasthe coolest animal that you
snuck in?
That's a wild question.
It's a wild story, but is thereone that you snuck in?
That's a wild question.
It's a wild story.
But is there one that sticksout to you?
Speaker 7 (23:16):
We did a three-year-old baby gorilla, and
the vets were very nervous.
They said if she wakes up shewill literally kill us all.
So we're going to keep herasleep.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, I've heard there's no chill with those
gorillas when they go off.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
they're pretty strong yeah so, but it was neat, we we
even did a vulture once and allkinds of stuff, so wow.
But I was gonna ask um bunsen,um, did he have any?
Um pain or weakness in hisfront legs?
He?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
has pain when he steps.
That's why he does this littletippy tap, but he's so stoic, he
smiles while he does it likehe's so happy all the time.
It's only like we we werethinking about this, because
adam, our younger son, who'she's well, he's 19 now.
He wrestles with bunsen and hewas wrestling with bunsen a
couple times and made bunsen cry.
(24:12):
Normally it doesn't hurt, buthe wasn't being mean or anything
, he was just grabbing his headand going and then bunsen yelped
and that was atypical and thathappened like before bernoulli,
this was way before everything.
Like he did verbally say he wasin pain, but normally when he
walks he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
He's happy to walk around like he's so happy okay
but yeah, that tippy toe thingsounds like it's consistent with
the cervical spine injury yeah,and we've been in and out of
the local vet here trying todiagnose what was happening with
him.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, and like one of the vets, she did like a range
of motion along with someneurological kind of testing and
his pupils and things like thatand she said his hind legs had
like limited range of motion andthat was the first time that he
had that and that probably waslike in October.
But then after that, like wejust rested him and he he got
(25:13):
better in the hind legs but hewas doing the tippy tap and
slipping, yeah.
That's why you can see all thosecarpets on the floor upstairs,
because it's like carpet city.
The floor is lava, but reallythe floor is carpet for Bunsen.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, it's so much better for him.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Good luck with the surgery.
I have one quick other question.
I saw your bit on how dogsdrink.
Yeah, do your dogs drink thesame way all the time?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Bunsen and Bernoulli do, but Beaker changes how she
drinks.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Because my lab.
Sometimes she drinks like she'sa debutante, sipping champagne,
yeah, so gingerly.
And then other times she putsher entire face in the water,
all the way to her eyeballs.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, beaker has dainty drink and then all-in
drink.
She has both.
Yes, must be a lab thing,thanks.
Thanks, robert, very cool, okay, chris, I have no idea who's
next.
Sorry, I was monitoring the theother channel, so go ahead, do
you know?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's Patricia.
Hi, patricia, thank you forwaiting.
Yeah, hello.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Sorry, I don't know what happened there.
I dropped off, then I had toget back on again.
So yeah, so right now, I'm gladthat Bunsen is comfortable.
Right now, um, I'm glad thatbunsen is comfortable, but at
least you guys have a diagnosis.
I just want to clarify.
I suggested because I had afriend of mine who had something
similar, but it was more in theback end yeah so I don't
(26:45):
anyways about maybe going to theosteopath, but I didn't realize
his disc was hernia.
I was probably reading it whileI was half asleep, because it's
like 1 42 in the morning hereand I'm not that long back
actually because Skye is in thehospital.
Oh yeah, she has mildpancreatitis oh no, well, I'm
(27:06):
sorry to hear that yeah,thursday she was fine, and then
Friday I she only gets fed oncea day.
Not because I didn't like, whenshe was a puppy I used to feed
her two, three times a day, yeah, but then when she got older I
(27:27):
used to feed her breakfast anddinner or supper, but then I
started realizing she didn'twant to eat breakfast.
So now she would be like likeshe literally six o'clock comes,
it's like she'll run from myoffice, which is now turned into
her bedroom, and I've got apretty big office and it's a
(27:47):
home office, but yeah, andshe'll come into the kitchen or
she'll come in wherever I ambecause I work from home, and
she'll pester me like, come on,it's feeding time.
So I was like all right, soanyhow, so I make up sky's food.
Yeah, I cook all of her food.
Now there is dog food in it aswell.
(28:08):
Yeah, because she's got a reallysensitive stomach.
She has a minor umbilicalhernia, so she's booked in now
to get that fixed in Aprilbecause she just had a heat
cycle.
So I'm like I'm done with thisstuff.
So anyways, long story short,so she had dinner and then I
(28:32):
didn't even know, but she justgot sick.
I was eating my dinnerafterwards and I thought, oh did
I spill some of my dinner onthe floor Because I was watching
TV.
And then I was like that is thegrossest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Oh no.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
Yeah, and then I was like, ok, but anyways.
So she and so we went to bedbecause she sleeps with me.
And then I whatever that likeher stomach was making so much
noise, that like, and you weretalking about farting newly.
Oh my God, I couldn't stoplaughing, because guys farts
(29:10):
like they would have knockedeverybody out.
They could have killed Trump,they were so bad.
And it's weird, because shedoesn't do that.
She just she's the most politedog ever, like she doesn't fart
in the house at all.
If she does, she'll go outside.
It's really funny.
But anyway, it's about threeo'clock in the morning.
(29:31):
She just puked.
Oh no, her heart rate was going.
She was really lethargic.
So I was like, ok, will I waittill morning and take her to the
vet, or will I go now?
Because there's only one vethospital in the whole county.
If you're looking at a map ofIreland, I live in Mayo, like
(29:52):
mayonnaise, that's the name ofit.
It's the second biggest countyin Ireland and there's only one
vet hospital.
There's loads of vets butthere's only one small animal
vet hospital, which isridiculous.
So I call them and then you getthrough to an answering machine
or an answering service andthen they're like, oh, if it's
(30:13):
an emergency, please call thisnumber.
I'm like, just give me somebodyon the phone, will you Anyways
call the number, and then youalmost have to leave a message.
So I'm trying to pick up thisdisgusting vomit off the floor
and she's just, and then sheruns into the bathroom and she's
(30:33):
puking in the bathroom andshe's the work.
She was so sick, it was just soquick yeah the first thing that
came to mind was, I don't knowwhy, but I was like I think
she's got pancreatitis, I don'tknow why, because I think I was
reading something about it.
But so I was making, I make upher food and I was giving her
(30:56):
ground lamb.
And I didn't know this, becausesky loves lamb, right, but lamb
is full of congealed fat andit's that congealing, that kind
of, causes that problem oh manyeah I didn't know that yeah, I
didn't know that either.
(31:17):
So if you talk to roddy cole'smom his who mom she is a vet
tech.
So she's yeah, it's basicallydiet related.
So, because I would make up big, huge batches for a month and I
would put Sky's dog food, whichis like grain free, organic
stuff for whatever, and then I'dadd lamb and like basmati rice
(31:42):
and beef right when I wastalking to the vet, anyways,
whatever.
When we finally got her there,they straight away they put her
on IV.
Her temperature was up, she wasreally like.
She was like somebody who'dbeen drugged, she was like super
lethargic and she was just toosick and she just doesn't get
(32:06):
sick.
Do you know what I mean?
Anyways, long story short, sothat's what she has.
She has mild pancreatitis andit's as a result of me
unknowingly feeding her too muchman that has concealed fat in
it, because dogs apparentlydon't now, I don't didn't know
this either.
(32:26):
They don't digest like fat, isit?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
whatever, like we do yeah, you have to be very
careful with how much fat is inyour yeah, if I was having pork
chops.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
I didn't want the pork chops, I wanted the fat
that was.
So of course I gave it to her.
I was like I can't say no toyou, but anyhow, that's yeah.
So of course I felt like prettycrappy.
But I went to see her today.
She was much better.
They'd given her something fornausea and they put her on just
an IV because she was moredehydrated than anything.
(33:00):
But she's fine.
So the vet was like you know,um, you can pick her up probably
on Monday or Tuesday, because Iyeah, so like where the
hospital is.
I worked there there on aTuesday, so I was like it might
be Tuesday, but they have tokeep doing blood work because
they have to get her stable.
(33:22):
Yeah, no, but it's not evenstable, it's just they have to
get a certain part of her bloodlevel down.
Yeah, they need to get it likewithin normal ranges or whatever
, because it's elevated.
I, honestly, and I didn't have abenchmark for what Skye's, what
normal for Skye would be.
So, anyways, but she was fine,so I brought down her.
(33:45):
I brought her like her blankieand I had slept in it, like last
night or whatever time.
I ended up going to bed becauseyou know the way with dogs, if
they have something that smellsnormal, they're human or
whatever it relaxes them.
So I slept in it, specifically,we gave her that and she, and
(34:06):
then she has this stuffy thatshe's had since she was a pup
and it's her favorite and she'llsuck on it Like I call her her
soother, yeah.
And then, of course, she wascrying, and then I was like, oh
my gosh, I'm leaving you.
Oh, but it was weird, cause thefirst, like the night that I
took her down there, I was likethey were like we gotta get this
(34:27):
on her.
I was like I three, fouro'clock in the morning, I'm not
leaving her, I'm lying on thefloor with her and you can call
the cops if you want.
But all I could think about,though, apart from Skye, was
poor Kuno, because I keptthinking, oh, my god, I can't
imagine if I brought her hereand I didn't bring her home, but
yeah, I guess I'm good ininverted commas.
(34:51):
Result he said she'll recoverfully.
She just can't eat no more,given her bacon.
But Skye doesn't know that yetbecause she loves bacon.
Because the joke, of course, onDoug Twitter is what was it
Kuno said something about shesmells better than bacon.
I can't remember, but yeah,yeah, so that's basically poor
(35:13):
sky and I feel so bad becauseI'm like why the hell didn't?
I know this, I've had dogs foryears.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I guess it's just yeah, patricia, I think uh,
sorry, I didn't mean to to cutyou off.
There it is.
I want to thank you just fortelling us about this, because
that's you don't know what youdon't know until you know it.
And thank you for coming up totell us about that, because who
knows somebody listening thatmight help their dog out.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
So I really appreciate that yeah, I think
maybe do something on that,because you know the way you do
it on different dog breeds.
Maybe you guys could do,because I haven't had a huge
amount of sleep and it's almosttwo in the morning so I'm gonna
hype off, not wanting to be rude.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, okay, I'll shut up now all right, patricia,
thank you so much for sharingtonight and we're just happy
that sky is going to be okay.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Thank you thank you, thank you okay, thanks for
sharing tonight and we're justhappy that Sky is going to be
okay.
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Okay, I'm going to stay upthere.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Okay, take care.
Thanks, patricia, that's ascary thing leaving your dog at
the vet, like when we had toleave Bunsen overnight.
That was really tough yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, like super tough.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah, super tough.
Yeah, yeah, thanks for sharing,patricia.
Who's next holly?
Yeah, okay, hi, holly, go aheadhi, so you.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
When we were talking about that certain wiener dog
breed earlier, I never heardthem called a dash, and until I
came to canada, yeah this issupposed to be a Canadian thing,
because in the US they'redachshunds or dachshies, and at
one time I actually spoke Germanand the German pronunciation
(36:54):
would be dachshund.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There you go.
I knew there was a differentpronunciation and I butchered it
when I was trying it.
So yeah, thank you forcorrecting me.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
But anyway, just oddball things.
But in news of the pethousehold we had our once a year
snowfall and Sasha was justecstatic.
She's one of these dogs thatwhen it snows she goes into full
on zoomy mode, which is a lot,because she's pretty lazy like
Bunsen is because she's like ayear younger than Bunsen.
(37:26):
But yeah, the snow comes outand it's almost like you know
how burners are in Sasha's waytoo, where they just can run
faster in the snow than they canon dry land, and it's like
she's fascinated with the factthat she can run fast.
She got about three days ofthere being enough snow on the
ground to make her happy, whichwas wonderful.
(37:47):
And my other little bit of newsis she and our cat Toby have
hit a milestone.
They have figured out how toplay.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yay.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
I am so happy for them.
So basically, toby bats at her.
Sometimes he just hits her inthe head, him.
So basically, toby bats at her.
Sometimes he just hits her inthe head and she's figured out
that she bows and jumps and thenpretends to chase him and then
he parkours around the room andshe's now started where she
actually will pick her paw upand she's not hitting him.
I think she knows that he'slittle, but she's just waving
(38:22):
her paw towards him and hereally likes that.
But she's just waving her pawtowards him and he really likes
that.
One other quick story I have acolleague who has a great
Pyrenees puppy who is fivemonths old now and with the snow
we had this last week, so helets his puppy out into the back
and his dog's reaction to snowfor the first time was to lay
(38:43):
down in it and sleep for threehours.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yep yeah, pyrenees are even.
I think Pyrenees are even moreimpervious to the cold than
Bernice mountain dogs, yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
So it's just.
I find it amusing to see dogsdifferent reactions to snow.
Of course, when I had my lastgreyhound, her reaction to snow
was ew, my feet are wet, I'mgoing inside.
Of course, when I had my lastgreyhound, her reaction to snow
was ew, my feet are wet, I'mgoing inside.
But anyway, I just want to saythat I'm loving all of the
Valentine's Day love going ondog Twitter.
(39:17):
It is just so sweet.
And I definitely would say thatMummy Fave will always be
Bunsen's Valentine.
That much is true.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's pretty true, yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Yeah, yeah, you are the mummy fave there.
There's been dad guysoccasionally useful, but most
dog dads fall into that.
Yeah, occasionally useful tocategory.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I think we're helpful when it's time to get to feed
them.
That's about it.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Exactly, or if they need to be picked up for some
reason.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
But yes, I hope Bunsen feels better soon.
Spinal issues are weird.
I have spinal stenosis in my L3to L5 and it has weird effects,
like sometimes my legs willjust feel like cinder blocks.
I don't have back pain, I justmy legs don't want to work.
And it's so weird how, if yourspine becomes inflamed, the
(40:15):
nerves it can push on and do oddthings too.
I'm also going to say I knewChris was right that it was the
alien space baby that causedBunsen's face to deteriorate and
then, once it was gone, hisface grew back.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I know his face grew back.
Good job, buddy.
You grew your face back.
That's what I tell him everyday Good job.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I told you I knew Chris was right, so there you go
.
So anyway, everyone enjoy therest of their weekend.
I'm gonna go and cook dinnerwhile I listen to the rest of
the wonderful nonsense on thischat yay, yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I.
We agree the sweet.
Sometimes social media can getvery serious and I was thinking
I was feeling a little seriousand it's good to be a little
silly and a little sweet and Ihope the Valentine's Day stuff
comes through that way.
Who is next Chris?
Is it Christy?
That's Miss Penelope.
(41:16):
Is she next?
Sure?
Yeah, okay, thanks for waiting,and we've got a couple more
speakers.
We'll get to you.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Good evening, hello, hi, can you hear me?
Yep, yes, good, that's mylittle piper in the picture.
She's a three-year-oldchihuahua and two weeks ago,
saturday, she got sick and I hadto take her to the vet.
I, she was fine friday and shewoke up and she was just
vomiting like it wasn't it wasclear, but it had foam on it so
(41:48):
it was just nasty and she feltreally warm and she's.
I take her every month aroundthe sixth of each month for her
allergy shot and she is on laceat one lay, six in the morning
and half of a heart pill atnight because her heart's a
little enlarged and that's verynormal for Chihuahuas Heart
murmurs or enlarged heart.
Like this dog has better carethan most people in the world.
(42:11):
I'm serious, this is how well Itake care of her.
And I knew that she neverthrows up and I knew something
was wrong.
I make her food I've made itsince we've got her so and then
she takes a liquid vitamin atnight and liquid vitamin and her
salmon oil at night and I knewsomething was wrong.
(42:32):
Oh God, I'm going to startcrying.
So I got her to the doc, theemergency vet, and they did an
x-ray and they said that herliver was a little enlarged, but
that could have been from herheart too, because and the blood
work and stuff they knew herfever was 103, and so they knew
there was an infection from theblood work.
They just couldn't, so theygave her three shots one for
(42:53):
nausea, gave her a b12 to boosther immune system, and then a
really strong antibiotic, andthat was, oh, she was there all
day, she wasn't dehydratedthough, and, oh my god, nine
o'clock last Saturday she passedaway in my arms.
That was, oh, she was there allday, she wasn't dehydrated,
though, and, oh my God, at 9o'clock last Saturday she passed
away in my arms.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Did you hear that?
And I don't.
We don't know why.
We said it must have been afast-moving infection because
she was fine on Friday and Ididn't have an autopsy done.
I just couldn't.
I had her cremated and she's ina beautiful little pink urn.
But it was like to me, it waslike I'd lost a child and I
(43:41):
don't know what happened and Ikeep going over my mind what
could have been?
I've been researching I'm anurse for 38 years and I've just
been going over it and so herdoctor, I just sent her the
report that I got.
They sent it to me and I'm justwaiting to see what she thinks
from her vet, because I can'teven imagine what would have
(44:04):
been so fast-moving to make herso sick in just a few hours.
I thought maybe somebody hereknows something.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Oh, I'm just so sorry .
I'm so sorry about that.
I put Princess Piper in thenest for people to take a look
at.
You've got a lot of wonderfulmessages coming in on live.
People are just heartbroken.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
It's just been really hard and so it's been very
lonely.
So my granddaughter lives withus while she goes to college,
but she's never here.
But I have a cat here and hercat has just not left me alone.
He's right here with me rightnow and it's like he must know
because he will not leave myside and he's been sleeping with
(44:51):
me, which is really odd.
So he cuddles up to me at nightand I'm just thinking, I'm
sorry for crying.
He must know that something'sbecause he and piper play.
Well, piper was the mean oneand the cat would bat at him,
bat at her and pipe.
I mean they would get thezoomies together.
But I'm thinking, but theseanimals must know, they just
(45:13):
have to.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah yeah I don't know animals feel, you know, the
same big emotions that we feel,and they do feel grief and they
do sense grief and they knowwhen we're sad.
They know when we're sad yeah,so anyway I guess
yeah, I'm not a vet, I can'ttell you.
Oh I know.
I do have to say that.
I do have to say that had whenbunsen was so sick with his his
(45:38):
growth, I caught it because I itwas during the summer and I'm a
teacher, so so I had time offwork.
Right, I was around him at thattime and it it has crossed my
mind many times that if I wastwo hours on either side he
would have died probably.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Right.
If he got just the straw, brokethe camel's back late at night
and both Chris and I weresleeping, or if we had he was at
a kennel or something or wewere at work.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, cause it was not quite school.
If it happened in September,then he would have been at home.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
And I guess, like sometimes you just never know, I
don't know why I'm saying this.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
It's just that.
No, I understand.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, sometimes you just you're in the right place
at the right time with youranimal, and sometimes it doesn't
matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, and I know when she likes dogs, cats, they're
like us.
They have their days.
They don't feel good forwhatever reason and I knew that
day that it just wasn't.
She was not feeling good, shewas sick and I could feel her
tummy.
And I told she was not feelinggood, she was sick and I could
feel her tummy and I told myhusband.
I said we're going to theurgent care right now.
I said she's hot and she's notfeeling good and she's very
(46:50):
lethargic.
And we were at the at theurgent care by 9 30 in the
morning or quarter after nineand no, we're driving through a
blizzard and everything.
And we got there and they tooka ride in.
They were amazing and they werevery.
I don't think the vet was asshocked, I think, but they just
didn't think.
(47:10):
They told me if she's not betterby Monday, of course I was
going to take her into a regularvet, but they said she could
also.
Just the antibiotics may justtake 24 hours and she could be
back to her old self.
The next day, which had beenSunday, and unfortunately I was
laying in bed with her and Ipicked her up and was just
looking at her and next day Ilooked at her again and she was
gone and I think, oh my God,what did I miss as a nurse, as a
(47:34):
dog mom, what did I miss withthis?
It just keeps going in my headbecause I just knew everything
about this dog, because I'm withher 24-7 as a retired nurse now
and I just don't know.
It's just something that was sofast.
I've seen, unfortunately, as amidwife and a baby nurse.
(47:54):
I've seen babies pass withinhours because they get septic
for whatever reason, and I thinkthat's what happened to Piper.
She was an infection and shegot septic and that's all I know
yeah and it was fast.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
We all can go from relatively healthy to very sick
very quickly um that's yes, butthank you everyone, for, yeah,
I'm just so, we're chris and Iare just so sorry.
A lot of people are saying, ofcourse you're gonna feel the way
that you feel and that's, butdon't beat yourself up about it.
You did all you could.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, I thought that all we could beat myself up, but
I'm not doing it anymorebecause I did my absolute best
as a mom.
Darling, she was taken care ofevery month.
She was very well taken care of.
Yeah, yeah.
But thank you everybody.
I'll let you go on to the nextperson.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Okay, take buddy, I'll let you go on to the next
person.
Okay, take care.
Thank you to everybody youputting really nice messages,
thank you.
There's probably like 30messages from live just saying
they're so sorry for your loss.
You did all you could.
They can't tell us what's wrongwith them.
You just have to try your best.
People are just so very sorry,so thank you for sharing.
Okay, your best.
(49:08):
People are just so very sorry,so thank you for sharing.
Okay, we will go to jamie andthen to tracy.
Hi, jamie, this, go ahead goodmorning chrissy.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
I'm really sorry for your loss.
I do understand.
We've been through it justrecently ourselves.
Um changing this up, changingthe tone a bit, it's still
raining here in townsville right, it was raining last week.
It hasn't stopped no, no, it hasnot stopped.
(49:35):
We're up over 800 mils of rainwow.
For february and for the year,we've already got our average
rainfall.
So everything is wet and muddyand things are turning blue with
mold in front of us.
Oh man, oh, it's feral, it'sdisgusting.
(49:58):
The poor chickens live in a mudpit and we cut a whole heap of
long grass for them yesterdayand I spread it out as much as I
could to give them some more alittle bit of different surface
to pad around in, but of coursethat means you've got to wear a
(50:19):
trench through the mud to get inand out of the chook yard.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
And this morning the dogs got up and ran and ran and
ran and then came upstairs andRose's nice little white socks
were the same colour as the restof her.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
So muddy.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
Rose is a black dog with white socks.
She's a border kelpie.
Yes, she was so muddy andTennessee was muddy with her,
and tennessee is a big shaggywhite wolfhound crop, oh man.
So she was black as well, andriver was just upstairs going.
(51:01):
Oh children, they're disgustingthose children.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, that's Bunsen to.
When Beaker and Bernoulli gotso dirty every day in the summer
.
Bunsen's like what is yourproblem?
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Stay out of the mud.
Yeah, river's turned into amiddle-aged man.
He's just like, oh, mud, ickand yeah, and now Rose is tired
and River's exhausted just frombeing disappointed in the
children.
But they're otherwise, they'rehealthy and yes, they just.
(51:37):
They're getting stir crazy,though, because it is so
disgusting and they can't goswimming in the creek because
the creek looks like a chocolatemilkshake and it's flowing so
fast that if you let them swimin there, they'd be five
kilometers downstream in aheartbeat.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
It's not safe yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
Oh no, not safe at all, so they're stir crazy.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I feel like we have similar situations at the same
time.
You have so much rain, it's sogross, you can't go outside, and
then for us, it gets sofreezing cold you just die if
you go outside.
So we have this yeah we havethe same problem
Speaker 4 (52:20):
yeah, yeah, and like my, I went to.
We got stay at home from workon Monday because it was raining
so heavily, and then on TuesdayI went into the office but and
about 15 months ago the roof onour office building was replaced
(52:41):
because it leaked.
It didn't work.
We still have waterfallsrunning down the walls.
The PowerPoints beside my deskto plug my computer into got wet
and so they weren't working,and so the carpets were wet and
everything was wet and it wasall stinky and horrible.
(53:02):
So we all got sent home to workfrom home, oh God, so I've been
home all week, but if the roofdidn't get fixed by getting
completely replaced, the waterand it's still raining the
office is still going to bestinky.
So I can't see going to townthis week either.
(53:23):
It's wild.
We've had bridges wash away.
We've got our major dam downthe road from us.
Is it over 200 capacity at themoment?
Speaker 1 (53:35):
yeah, there's a lot of water yeah, it sounds like
it's turning from annoying intodangerous, so I hope you stay
safe.
Like it's, it's fun to jokeabout when it gets lots of snow
or whatever.
It reaches a point where youknow joking stops and it's
dangerous to everybody yeah,there's so many potholes on the
(53:58):
road.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
My daughter is getting my husband to drive her
to work at the moment becauseshe's got a smaller car and he's
got a huge, so higher clearance, so he's driving her to and
from work.
Yeah, it's not the best placeat the moment, but the dogs are
good, that's good.
(54:19):
So that's the important bit atthe moment, but the dogs are
good, that's good.
Love to everybody and love toBunsen to rest up and cuddles
for all the others.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
No worries, thanks.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
We have a saying in Canada when it gets really cold,
we always end with stay warm,so I guess, stay dry.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Stay dry.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Take care, jamie.
Okay, we'll go to Tracy.
Tracy, thanks for waiting.
You were at the end of thequeue.
It's been a great show.
You're up, go ahead, tracy.
Speaker 6 (54:55):
Hi Tracy, hi everyone .
Hope you guys are doing good.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
We are, and it's good to hear from you.
Hopefully you're well.
Yeah, I'm doing well.
I just actually got back fromvacation to Mexico.
Speaker 6 (55:09):
So what?
That was nice.
Yeah, I did.
I saved up my paid time off,did an all-inclusive spot oh,
that's awesome got margaritasbrought right to me if I wanted
them, so it was great.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
That's awesome.
Chris knows a little bit aboutthat.
That's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, it was.
Jason would make the margaritasfor me and then he would put
extra drink in it.
It's a problem, yeah.
Speaker 6 (55:31):
And then I did a tequila tasting where the worker
like poured the shots, so I waslike half shots and then it was
still like definitely enough,because you had like eight
different types of tequila.
You're trying.
And then I had my sister watchthe cats.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
I got back yesterday and they have been glued to me
Aw, they're like where'd you?
Go and you're like tequila.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (56:02):
Yes, so I had Amy sleeping near my feet and Holt
was sleeping near my head andjust hung out most of today.
I don't go back to work untilFebruary 14th.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (56:16):
So I took 13 days and it's all paid.
So it's good Nice.
I'm happy for you.
That's great.
Thank you, definitely neededthe vacation yeah definitely
missed my cats while I was gone,but I knew they were in good
hands and they're healthy andhappy and they love everyone
(56:37):
they meet, so it's all good.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I love that I put a picture of Amy and Holt up in
the nest for people to see onaudio.
They're super cute.
They're like tuxedo cats blackand white.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
And if you're on live , it's just Bernoulli sleeping.
I'm not sure where Bunsen andBeaker went, but that's,
bernoulli is just sleeping.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
So Beaker's on this side, closer to our bedroom, and
Bunsen's over by the bench.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
How I put a box up.
There's no room there.
Why would she go there?
That's so weird, I don't know.
Tracy, I'm glad you had a greatvacation.
We all need a vacation everynow and again and I know the
last vacation that you and Iwent on chris is a couple.
Speaker 6 (57:22):
the worst part about it was I was missing the dogs
big time, like they're a hugepart of our life, like in the
morning, um when we went to theeclipse yeah, yeah, I was
missing the dogs yeah, I wasdefinitely missing the cats, but
also, like when I did theeclipse, I just went right back
to work the next day and I wasexhausted for a few more days
(57:43):
after that.
So I'm like I'm not doing thatthis time.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yeah, we christened on it.
Yeah, we retired too, but thankGod it was at the end of the
school year, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (57:52):
No, it was April, it was right by my birthday, it was
like April.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, beginning of april right, that's what that
was me that month so long as wewe came back right in the
busiest month of teaching.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah, that week back was brutal yeah, and jason, I'm
like, are you sure you want totravel on april 6th?
Like you're like, oh yeah,let's travel on april 6th.
I'm like, are you sure you wantto travel on april 6th?
Oh my god like, yeah, I saidit's my birthday and you're like
, oh, I've already booked it.
Oh, I guess I'm traveling likeon a red eye flight thing on my
(58:25):
birthday, okay, I took you tosee the eclipse for your
birthday, so that's a prettygood birthday present.
The eclipse was on the eighth.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
It was close.
Close counts in hand shoes,close counts in hand and poor
shoes and hand grenades anddancing.
Yeah, somebody was asking wherejamie's from.
It's australia.
So yeah, she's from australia.
I thought the accent gave itaway.
It could be new zealand, thoughthere are a lot of australians
that live in british columbialike other parts of the world.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, but no, jamie is definitely from australia and
she's invited me to go there tobe, I don't want to go in the
rain season, though no, I wantto go like when it's like
stinking hot yeah, it'd be aproblem for alphaba, wouldn't
she?
Speaker 1 (59:09):
wouldn't that be a problem?
How would she survive inaustralia?
Speaker 2 (59:12):
alphaba.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Alphaba, because she's from the wizard from
wicked yeah, no, that's her namethe wicked witch of the west.
First name is alpha Okay.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
I know we watched that movie together.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
You know what, as musicals go, it was good I have.
I would give that eight out of10, and I'm not a musical guy.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
This is what Jason does.
He he rests his hand on hishead like this, so I can't see
that he's sleeping whenever wego.
Yeah, jason's doing it too.
That's what he does whenever wego to a musical, because he's
just oh, he wants to not showthat he's sleeping.
We went to carmen, oh my god,and I wanted to go so badly I
(59:59):
got that for your birthday, formy birthday.
Yeah, when was this back in?
Like 1992 anyway?
No, it probably was like 1996we went and you were like it was
brutal and then I told you I'mlike are you enjoying it?
and you're like I have no ideawhat they're talking about.
I have no idea, like anintermission about I have no
idea.
Like at intermission, I saidthey have subtitles at the
(01:00:20):
bottom there.
You said what there's subtitlesthere's dubbed in English, and
then I think the second act wasbetter, but the roads were awful
.
There was a brutal snowstorm onthe way home.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Generally not a fan of musicals.
I am a fan of one musical andI've watched it probably 30
times.
You know what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I was going to say you were a fan of the book of
Mormon.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Okay, you're on the right track.
You're getting hot.
Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
What would Brian Boytano do?
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah, south park, the South park movie, which is a
musical.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
The South park movie.
It is a musical.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah, I Park movie, which is a musical.
The South Park movie, it is amusical.
Yeah, one of my top 10 favoritesongs of all time is Blame
Canada.
I love that movie so much,anyways, okay, so we're out of
speakers.
We'll wrap up.
We're running a little bit overhere.
I'm just checking the chat.
Thank you for the updates onBunsen's health.
(01:01:19):
Okay, perfect.
Yeah, we went a bit long, sothank you for everybody who
stuck through.
Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
It was me.
It was my long story long, itwas my short story long.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I had to go deal with stuff upstairs, so you were
talking anyways, so people areyeah, and I just kept talking.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So this is what Jason says to me he's oh, hello, it's
Christopher talking here,Christopher Walken, and he talks
weird Like I'm ChristopherWalken, but it's Christopher
talking.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
I just keep talking here, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
We love it when Chris talks.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yeah, you get a lot of.
I'm like I came back and I'mlike you haven't even talked
about the MRI yet and that waslike 20 minutes ago, but I guess
you had, so I was justconcerned, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Okay, this is the other thing, Jason.
You don't get to the point.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
You get to the point eventually.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Eventually.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
But you're a math teacher, you have to get to the
point eventually.
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I do, I get to the point, I get to.
The variable X is equal to.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
See like I'm a.
And then the prestige I call itmathemagic.
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I'm like what Hooray, we got to the answer.
It's mathemagic, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
That's it Time to wrap up.
We're going to play Kahootagain.
Thank you to everybody who cametoday.
It's a bit longer, but we hadlots of people with heartfelt
stories.
We're always here for folks toshare their wins, but also
sometimes the the really sadparts of pet ownership.
Next week We'll be really sweetwith what Chris and I got
cooking for Valentine's day Over.
(01:03:00):
Next week will be really sweetwith what Chris and I got
cooking for Valentine's Day Overto you, chris.
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Thank you everybody for coming.
We appreciate you listening toour stories and sharing your
stories with us.
In the community Grow togetherand we learn from each other,
and I think that's important andI'm excited about continuing to
do the podcast and be here withyou.
Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, okay, take care everybody.
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