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Blair (00:00):
Foreign ladies and gentlemen, good good
afternoon and welcome to episode 92 of the
Secular Foxhole podcast.
Today it's just Martin and I and this will be
a short end of year show where we're justgonna thank all our guests that we've had
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throughout the year and all their wonderfulideas and comments and commentaries and we
wish them all much success in the new year andhopefully many of them, if not all of them,
will return sometime in the future.
But today I just wanted to say again, this isa wrap up.
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I've recently retired from 36 years in IT andeven longer in work life.
So I have a new chapter in life ahead of meand I'm enjoying my days so far.
And let's see we the one piece of really goodnews I have is concerns Professor Brad
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Thompson of Clemson University.
He's got a new book coming out called the
Political Thought of the American Revolution AReader and it's a two volume set and the first
volume comes out pretty soon.
I know there's no, he doesn't have a publisheddate yet, but he said pretty soon and it says
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in his substack article about it, he says thefirst volume, subtitled the Imperial Crisis
and Independ, assembles some of the mostimportant tracks in the conflict between Great
Britain and her American colonies in the yearsbetween 1761 and 1776.
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The second volume, subtitled RevolutionaryConstitution Making and Social Reform,
presents dozens of original documentsconcerned with the attempts by American
revolutionaries to construct new constitutionsand governments after 1776 and to reform the
laws of their societies.
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Speaking for myself, I think ProfessorThompson is as far as 21st century.
He's the most competent pro Americanphilosopher, writer, historian that we have
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today and his work deserves the widestaudience possible.
And so that's, that was my one piece of, youknow what I thought was really a highlight
which will happen early in the new year whenthat first volume comes out.
And he also, you know, he's written, he's gothis own publishing company called Loco Foco
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Press and I tried to find the website which Istill have not been able to find, which is
very strange.
But apparently it, that Locofoco is part of a,a movement back in those times that's sort of
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a, I don't want to say libertarian ish, butcertainly freedom oriented if I'm not
mistaken.
Martin (03:34):
Correct meaning of liber and freedom
and liberty and.
Blair (03:38):
Yeah, things like that.
Martin (03:41):
Libertine or something like that.
Yeah.
Blair (03:43):
Oh okay.
Yeah. And that, let's see, what else could.
Martin (03:50):
I comment on that Also, of course, I
think in his newsletter he had some news
coming up that he will announce also that'shappening.
So then I sent in an email and also waited fora reply there.
So it will be interesting.
You are having a good contact there, Blair.
And he has his substack newsletter on Substackand it has a special name.
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Isn't it like a nickname with dread Red.
Is it Redneck?
Blair (04:18):
And it's called the Redneck
Intellectual.
Martin (04:21):
Yeah. And that's.
Is it the one that down deep down south that
you had the T shirt with your neck?Neck T shirt.
Blair (04:33):
That could very well be.
But of course, since there's so much sun,
people's necks get red.
So.
Martin (04:39):
Yeah, so red.
Blair (04:40):
But this also has connotations that are
of a slur nature.
Martin (04:47):
Yeah, I know it is, but.
Blair (04:50):
But I think.
I think he uses it all as a pun and fun.
Martin (04:54):
Yeah. And that's.
That's good.
That's good.
Blair (04:57):
And go ahead.
Martin (04:59):
Yeah, and also you talked about that
and I now when I'm recording.
So next week it's as I think should be anAmerican holiday.
And that's the December 16th Boston Tea Party,1773.
So we have been celebrating that with friendsand Americans in spirit in Gothenburg, Sweden,
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for many years, several occasions.
We'll see what happened this year.
But we are.
I always on this day thinking about what's
happened in Boston.
That's very Tea party that they had.
And of course, as I said, as I'm a tea
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enthusiast, for me it's important of the valueof beverage and the trading and the plant and
why it was, you know, it was boiling over orhow do you say, got it happening.
I mean, it could be some other commodity orsomething, but it was that the English men
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trained or got the colonists that they likedthis brew, the cup, and then they taxed it and
they didn't have any representation.
Blair (06:22):
That's right.
That's right.
Martin (06:23):
And yeah, I wonder if that's maybe
going on during these times also.
Blair (06:31):
I think there's certainly trends toward
freedom, hopefully.
I don't really want to go negative at the endof the year because of the yuletide
celebrations and so on.
Martin (06:45):
And that's a good word also yuletide.
And I will say here in Swedish, yuletide orXmas.
It's called juvel in Swedish.
And that's coming from yule log that you put
in the fireplace.
Blair (06:59):
Yes.
Martin (06:59):
And then you count the sparks and
thinking of good times and what's coming.
And you want to keep warmth during the wholeholiday.
So that's what the word jewel is coming from.
Blair (07:13):
I like that.
Martin (07:15):
Yeah. So I know.
Blair (07:16):
So as far as the secular Foxhole
podcast is concerned, next year we will hope
to update our logo and perhaps have a new and.
Or different song or jingle.
Martin (07:31):
And artwork.
Blair (07:32):
And artwork.
Right.
And then some of the guests we hope to haveagain, I hope to.
I'll reach out to Brad Thompson when this bookis published and hopefully have him on.
And then we did confirm, at leastpreliminarily with a gentleman named Scott
Powell, who's a homeschool teacher andhistorian and he's written three books and he
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is very knowledgeable about literature andhistory.
And so hopefully that will happen very soon.
Martin (08:10):
Yeah.
Blair (08:10):
And I probably kick off the new year
with Mr. Powell.
Martin (08:14):
Yeah, great.
Blair (08:15):
And. And then hopefully Brad Thompson
shortly after that.
But go ahead.
Martin (08:22):
Yeah. I also want to say that we have
been planning and that's also thanks to
another returning guest, Robert Beagley, toprepare for a follow up of the Thomas Paine
Institute with Alex and Kevin.
Blair (08:37):
That's true.
Martin (08:38):
And thanks for your support.
Blair (08:40):
Yes, very much.
Thank you.
Martin (08:42):
So that's great.
And we'll talk more about.
Because we have a milestone coming up.
It will probably be around mid mid 2025 or in
the spring, late spring.
Then if everything goes according to plan,we'll reach episode 100.
And that's for podcasters.
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That's often that you celebrate that in a
special way.
So if you listener have any ideas how to do it
or feedback or input or whatever.
And we will try to use this new modern podcastapplications and technology and this
podcasting 2.0 initiat and this value forvalue model.
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So we could do something special for that.
But I think every episode is important and
valuable and it will be interesting to go backand go through and listen through and take
some notes and see what we could come up with.
Blair. So and again, I want to do a bit of ifI continue with the call to action and also
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plans to get the guests and others butonboarding to this new way of international
lifestyle when it comes to podcasting 2.0.
So we could share the splits with the guestsand we could get support and donations and
booster grams and read on air and all kind ofcool things that could happen with new modern
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podcast applications.
And again I want to thank.
What's his name now again?Oh, Kevin.
No. Is it?No down or in Australia that gave a great
review of our show and explained what our showis all about.
Blair (10:32):
Yeah, I don't remember his name either.
Martin (10:34):
But Dana under So thanks.
Yes, yes, I will include in the show notes and
mere mortals since the podcast.
Blair (10:43):
That's right, that's right, yes.
Yeah.
Again though otherwise we wish everyone veryjoy filled yuletide season and a great new
year full of success and prosperity.
Yeah, so that's a wrap for me I guess, Martin.
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Yeah.
Martin (11:05):
And I will add some stuff here.
Blair (11:07):
By all means, please.
Absolutely.
Martin (11:09):
So future plans, as you said, the
jingle, the artwork and the milestones here of
100 episodes upcoming and the POD page thatyou are taken care of and you secured a great
domainware with secular Voxel and there youcould do all kind of cool features and so on
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with POD page.
So we'll look into that.
And also I could tell about what you learnwhen you're running with CSS.
That's an expression in the podcast in 2.0
community.
Could say that I got Albi Hub and then it was
recommended to have a certain amount ofsatoshis and now for some reason, and that's
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in a way good way.
But the bitcoin have increased in value or youcould say maybe the fiat currency have, you
know, happens with that value, so to speak.
So it's getting there.
The bitcoin price, it's over.
What is it?Hundred reached?
Blair (12:14):
It's close to 200 or 100,000, I think,
maybe even more.
Martin (12:19):
Yeah. So when I so called added to the
GitHub list this number 221905 that we talked
about, Ran's day boostergram number, Ran'sbirthday, February 2, 1905.
The first time a couple of years ago it waslike $50 I think now it's over $200 to send
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that boostogram.
Blair (12:45):
Well, that just proves that bitcoin is
very valuable.
Martin (12:49):
Yes, so we'll look into that.
And then I also want to say, I mean as you
said, you are retiring.
I'm still open for work.
Blair (13:01):
Good, good.
Martin (13:02):
Yeah. And I'm open for these projects
when it comes to podcasting and new media and
freedom of expression.
Blair (13:10):
Good. So I've just thought of
something, Martin, if you don't mind me
interceding, it's all good.
One of our guests, Richard Salzman, he praisesa woman economist, her name is Judy Shelton
and she has written a book called I believeit's called Good as Gold, which is on Kindle
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for $2.99,
which I think is the regular price, not justthe sale price.
And of course it comes out in paperback aswell.
About the gold, perhaps the world returning toa gold standard.
I think she's written about that before, butthis might be a current, more updated version
of that.
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And I am going to read that book and reach out
to her if I can.
Great.
And then have her as a guest.
That'll be next year.
Yeah, but I just thought of that and I wanted
to mention that to our listeners.
Martin (14:08):
That's a good point and because in a
way you're reading my mind because the latest
episode of podcasting 2.0 podcast with AdamCurry and Dave Jones.
Dave Jones made a comment on how you buildthis initiative.
I mean it's not a company, it's not anorganization, it's open source, it's
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programmers, developers, hosting companies,individuals like me that want to or supporter
and want to test it and spread the good word.
And then he had an interesting thing that itwas small time libertarian, it was some in the
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Austrian economics or something like that thathad an interesting expression about
competition in a friendly way and how thatlead to things.
You don't have an automatic outcome.
You don't know how it.
They took the example, for example, with VHSand Betamax and others.
Blair (15:10):
Right, right.
Martin (15:11):
You know, in a way one format could be
better technically wise and the experts are
saying, but then it's up to the market todecide and the users and the consumers and the
producers and so on.
So it's interesting to see how we could bereally in a way, supporters of free tools and
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free economy.
Blair (15:43):
Absolutely.
Martin (15:44):
And spreading the ideas.
And that's why it's interesting with again,
thanks to Albi, to Tomek, for example, thatalso have interest in ideas and philosophy.
And so we will look more into that.
Blair (15:57):
Yes.
Martin (15:58):
And try to get it out to our listeners
and because it's.
It's an educational thing.
I mean that's how for example, you introduced
me to Swan Bitcoin, for example.
Blair (16:09):
Right.
Martin (16:10):
And there I see.
I mean it's interesting to see.
But when you have this again, changes ofrules, regulations and what's going on and
then you see what's happening now in Argentinathat is possible to change things.
Blair (16:26):
This is certainly true.
Martin (16:27):
But then again you have to have a
philosophical foundation that is absolutely.
You have to get it.
Blair (16:36):
It's the only lasting way to have it
done with the proper philosophic foundation.
Martin (16:41):
So yeah, also.
And then again, if you value this, you couldsupport us in different ways and we will
include the support page on Captivate.
And so we have got that in the past and we
could have it in the future also.
Thank you very much in advance.
And then doing this onboarding and I will talk
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Again with Sam Sati for the next year, how wecould onboard in an easy and secure way and in
a positive way get this gamification on itsway.
So I will end, if it's okay, Blair, with alittle bit of stat stats and.
But not damn stats.
Blair (17:26):
Well, let me.
Let me tip my hat to captivate and POD page
for all the outstanding.
Do what they do for us and it's all yours,
Martin.
Martin (17:35):
Yeah, and that's also with Sam Seti.
I mean, it is not about the numbers and the
downloads and how many.
We are very niche podcast, but we see the
potential.
Blair (17:48):
Yes.
Martin (17:48):
So every individual, every listener is
important.
So it's not downloads as such.
And the good thing is our small podcast is
that we are not dependent on numbers in thatway.
And that as a new media advisor, I'm veryinterested in this.
What's going on in advertising, in the bigshows.
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We shouldn't talk about this now, but what'shappening in the election, for example, the
importance of podcasting there, if youappeared on a podcast or not.
And the mainstream media, what's going onthere or not going on.
And the opportunity with like newsletters,tools like Substack, for example, and Bradley
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Thompson coming across in a positive way,changing one individual.
How to say it?Yeah.
Blair (18:41):
One mind at a time.
Martin (18:42):
Yeah, thanks.
So with that said, Sam's setis talk about thedownload numbers versus like time spent or
listening or engagement or feedback or boostergrams.
So it's not the download number as such.
Blair (18:57):
Okay.
Martin (18:58):
But that could be one figure.
But we will see then in the future as we have
seen the feedback from our guests, listeners,donations, booster grams, comments, the POD
page, as you said, for example, you could dothat.
But anyway, we kept it there with the statsaround average.7 downloads per day is average.
Blair (19:24):
Okay.
Martin (19:25):
We have had unique listeners and this
is a number that I've been thinking about.
It's pretty big, I think.
But according to Captivate then unique
listeners over the whole, in total, over time,5,796.
Blair (19:44):
I'll take that number.
Martin (19:46):
Yeah. And in total downloads, 10,981.
And that's if you do it comparison with the
big shows or pretty big shows or seven bigshows.
You know, they could have that download numberin one episode.
But that's only the small minority that havethat.
Blair (20:05):
That's true.
Martin (20:06):
The average is like 150.
I think Libsyn's, that official podcast, the
feed is saying that still it's around 150.
And we are, you know, if you take sevendownloads per day.
And we have about two episodes per month,sometimes more, sometimes less.
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We are, you know, we are not in the top, butwe are not in the bottom either.
Blair (20:31):
No, we're not.
Martin (20:32):
And we see the potential.
But if we could, as I said, reach oneindividual that will think about this.
And I'm so happy to.
Again, thanks to all the guests that saying
that they like to, you know, to be in thefoxhole, the secular foxhole with us.
Blair (20:49):
Yes.
Martin (20:49):
They're taking their time and that's
why I wanted to add them onboard them and add
them to the split because this will be thefuture.
They change.
So. And in total, new modern podcast app, for
example, Fountain, it's like 2%.
So if we could increase that a little bit,
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that will get some interesting impact in thefuture.
Okay, so check out the new modern podcast app.
And we will include that in show notes also.
And the total numbers, Blair, in countries isas follows.
Now, United States, 65%.
Blair (21:32):
Great.
Martin (21:33):
So that's the main market, so to
speak.
Canada is 5%.
Blair (21:39):
Very nice.
Martin (21:40):
Sweden for some reason is third place
here.
Blair (21:44):
That's fine.
Martin (21:45):
Yeah. And United Kingdom.
Blair (21:49):
Good.
Martin (21:49):
India, Australia, Norway, Belgium and
Germany.
And in total, we are in 102. 102 countries.
Blair (22:01):
That's staggering, to be honest.
Martin (22:03):
And the latest periods, like 28 days
over the last month, we had some downloads in
Singapore.
That's something to reflect on.
Blair (22:14):
I would love to go to Singapore,
believe me.
Yeah.
Martin (22:17):
And there you are again.
That's probably after, you know, Hong Kong is,you know, it's a big country, but it's pity to
say it's belonging, so to speak, in quotationmark with mainline China.
It shouldn't, but it does.
But Singapore is economically wise.
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It's probably one of the freest, I think.
But then you have again with the philosophicallack of foundation, whatever, or to really
integrate the freedom.
Freedom in every aspects of your life.
Blair (22:50):
That's true.
I mean, they're just using.
Martin (22:52):
But it's great that somebody in
Singapore could listen to our show.
Blair (22:55):
I'm glad.
Yes, I'm thrilled.
Believe me.
I love that.
But it's the standard worldwide now.
You allow some economic freedom, but you cancontinue to control most of everything else,
which.
Okay, we have to eat.
So let's open the capitalist, as I think oneof objectivist intellectuals, he put it some
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years ago, he says, we'll loosen the noose alittle bit.
Martin (23:25):
Now I interrupt you, but that's what I
like with Richard Van Saltzman, that he
explained the word capitalism.
I think with the cap, the thinking cap.
Blair (23:33):
Right?
True. Good point.
Yeah.
Martin (23:35):
Yeah. With that note, Blair, do you
want to wrap it up or do you have anything
else you want to say?
Blair (23:42):
Martin, it's.
It's been a great ride.
Martin (23:46):
Yeah.
Blair (23:47):
And we'll.
Martin (23:48):
Likewise.
Blair (23:49):
We'll take the.
We'll take it into the new year.
Martin (23:52):
Yeah.
Blair (23:52):
And thank you again for everything you
do.
I really sincerely mean that same player.
And happy.
Happy Yuletide.
And Happy New Year.
And we'll talk again soon.
Martin (24:03):
Yeah, we will.
Thanks.
Blair (24:05):
All right.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Martin (24:07):
Bye for now.