January 14, 2025 • 58 mins
Join the Hormone Genius Podcast on a live stage to explore the intricate dance of hormones that shapes women’s health and identity. From the historical perspectives to the latest natural approaches to hormone management, discover alternative views on handling conditions like PMS and PCOS without relying on synthetic solutions.
We discuss the essential roles hormones play in everyday health, from fertility to mood swings, and highlight the importance of understanding and tracking the female fertility cycle. Listen to transformative stories and expert insights that illuminate the power of being hormone-aware, fostering better relationships and personal health. This episode is not just for the women; it’s an enlightening experience for men to understand the significant hormonal interplay that affects relationships and personal well-being. Join us to uncover the hidden superpowers of hormonal health and embrace a more informed, health-oriented lifestyle.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Seek 25 podcast, featuring some of
our favorite podcasters recordedlive at the Max Studios podcast
stage during Seek 25 in SaltLake City.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Ladies and gentlemen, please gather around because
this information, I assure you,will change your life and men
out there.
I assure you this informationis for you too.
We are the Hormone GeniusPodcast and we are excited to be
doing this live podcast atSeek25.
First I want to thank Kyle fromMax Studios, isn't he?
(00:41):
He's amazing.
This entire live podcast studio, the setup is amazing.
Let's give them, mac Studios, around of applause for all the
incredible work they're doing atSeek 25.
If you haven't been over totheir booth over there, it's
right over there with theUniversity of St Thomas, so
please check it out.
There's an incredible newwoman's health care and gender
(01:02):
identity studies.
I probably murdered that title,but please check them out over
there.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
We know that most of you alreadyknow why this is so important,
but maybe some of you out heredon't.
Hormones are cool and, jamieand I, the theme of this
conference.
We haven't seen our ladiesaround with a backpack that says
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do you know why your hormonesare cool?
Well, we're going to share thatinformation with you tonight or
this evening and we've got someamazing facts about hormones.
But I want to tell you a littlebit about hormones first, kind
of from a historical perspective.
I was doing a little researchand I was fascinated to find out
(01:45):
that the word hormone actuallywas discovered in 1904, which,
if you think about it, reallywasn't that long ago.
Now we've known that there'sthese things, these chemical
messengers, these likeinteractions between cells in
the body, but it wasn't coineduntil 1904 that we would call
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that word a hormone.
Now a lot has happened in thelast 100 years, 124 years in
terms of hormones and, jamie,and I think that in terms of
women especially and theidentity of who we are as women,
that we kind of took a wrongturn with hormones.
And if you don't know what I'mtalking about, in 1950, around
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1956, we developed synthetichormones, something called oral
contraceptive pills, and thatintersects almost with every
woman on the planet, because atsome point many of you out there
have been offered birth controlpills and not for birth control
.
You've been offered birthcontrol for PMS, for PCOS, for
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acne, for heavy periods, forpainful periods, and so for
those of you out there, in fact,raise your hands right now if
you have been offered the birthcontrol pill for a woman's
health reason.
I know I have.
When I was in college I playedsoccer at Briarcliff College in
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Sioux City, iowa.
We have any Iowa people hereAwesome.
I'm actually from Nebraska,nebraska, of course.
Yay, thank you for all myNebraska people out there.
I'm from Omaha, nebraska, but Iplayed soccer at Briarcliff in
Sioux City and I was offered thebirth control pill because my
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cycles became irregular as anathlete Very common situation
and I can tell you that I didnot feel good on birth control.
And so I'm here to tell you thatthere is another way.
Synthetic hormones suppress ourfemale identity.
Synthetic hormones are not thereal hormonal you and I want to
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give you an opportunity toreally believe that your
hormones were made good.
You were made good by God, yourbody is made good and your
hormones are good, and so Jamieis going to tell us some amazing
facts.
She's going to get us started.
But just so you know, again,I'm Teresa Kenney.
This is Jamie Rachi.
We're the Hormone Genius Podcast.
(04:17):
Again, I'm from Omaha, nebraska.
I am a women's health nursepractitioner and I have
practiced in Omaha for 25 years.
I have an incredible amount ofclinical experience in women's
health and I have never in mypractice prescribed the birth
control pill, and I can tell youthat I've never felt that I
have not been able to help awoman with any of those
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conditions like PCOS, like PMS,like acne.
All of those things can betreated another way.
There is an alternative and youknow.
Many of you out there have notbeen shared that information.
Please stick around at the endof this podcast because I have a
free gift for you.
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(05:03):
This is an amazing book, guys.
Has anybody read this book yetout there?
This book is an encyclopedia toyour body.
It is a foundation in yourhormonal health and we are
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So if you can stick around tothe end of this podcast, you can
get a copy of this book.
So please do, jamie, take itaway, girl.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
All right, teresa, I'm so excited to see all of you
today because, again, as wewere roaming around and people
would stop and ask and say, well, what's with your backpack?
Why are hormones?
Cool?
And if you guys received alittle postcard, you also have a
little snapshot of the cycleand so, if you have that
(05:46):
postcard, whip it out.
If you don't raise your hand,someone will pass one to you,
share it with your neighbor,because we will be able to use
that as a guide.
But while that's happening,I'll introduce myself a little
bit.
So, teresa and I, we started thepodcast in 2020, august, and it
(06:09):
has been an incredible fouryears.
I'm from Cedar Falls, iowa.
Okay, I was hoping for it to bereally loud.
Let's do it again, just for myown pride.
And go Cedar Falls Iowa yeah,we'll see who wins at the end.
Teresa, yeah, and go CedarFalls Iowa, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, we'll see who wins at theend.
Teresa, yeah, huskers, goHuskers.
(06:30):
Panthers you and I, panthers.
All right.
So, anyway, we are so excited totalk to you guys about this.
We are total hormone nerds andwe pretty much guarantee, by the
end of this, many of you willgo from like maybe a hormone
interest.
You know you're kind of in thehaze to hormone obsessed.
So we're going to talk aboutfive cool things about hormones.
(06:51):
And Teresa got us kicked offwith one of the first cool
things about hormones.
She mentioned that hormones arechemical messengers that travel
through the blood.
And what I think is sointeresting, you guys, about how
God made our body.
Our body's goal is to survive.
Every day, every day.
Our body, the main goal is tosurvive and to produce.
(07:14):
It's why we need sleep, it'swhy we have a sex drive, it's
why we need to eat food, it'seven why we get all weird when
we travel and that we need to goto the chiropractor.
This is an interesting fact.
Did you know that our bodywants to stay in equilibrium so
terribly?
And again, our hormones help usstay in balance inwardly, but
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even outwardly our body is meantto stay in balance.
Our eyes.
So I'm looking at you.
All right, my eyes are exactlybalanced.
It's not tilted right, but whathappens is it's so important
for my body to protect a veryimportant organ called the brain
and it's very important for meto survive, so I can see that
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everything else about my bodydistorts.
It's why we need chiropracticadjustments, for instance, as an
example.
But that's kind of how hormonesare.
Our hormones adjust to whatmight be off in the body and our
hormones want to keep us alive.
So I often think about, you know, hormones being a symphony.
Teresa, we've heard that before.
(08:21):
Right, you know there's abeautiful symphony and there's
instruments.
There's the clarinets andtheets and the flutes.
And, by the way, has anybodyband?
Are any of you guys bandplayers?
Oh, yeah, band.
So in your early years, do youremember what the band sounded
like?
Kind of bad, right, Squeakyclarinets, for instance.
That was me, but it would ruinthe whole experience, in a sense
, of that beautiful band or of asymphony, in terms of like, if
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you're using a violin and it'sgoing too fast.
So again, when one thing is off, it kind of affects the whole
symphony.
That's what happens with ourhormones.
So hormones are chemicalmessengers.
It's more than just estrogenand progesterone, but those are
going to be some hormones wetalk mostly about today.
So, teresa, what would you saywe're going to talk about the
(09:05):
second very important thing foryou guys all to know about how
cool our hormones are In termsof our sex hormones.
So when we say sex hormones,especially today, we're going to
talk about estrogen andprogesterone and what's
interesting is that we have afertility cycle and every month
there's this main event andwe're going to kind of go
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through that cycle with youespecially if you have one of
those postcards and I'm going tokick it off to Teresa.
But we have this cycle.
That's a vital sign of health.
And that is the second coolthing about hormones.
So the first thing is thathormones are chemical messengers
and the main goal is to keepour body in balance and in
equilibrium.
The second thing is that ourcycle is actually a vital sign
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of health.
It's a health diary.
So, teresa, why don't you sharewith our audience here a little
bit about the cycle?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
How many of you guys track your menstrual cycles on
an app on your phone?
Great, it's such a great thingto do.
How many of you know what themain event of your cycle is?
Great, how many of you thinkit's your period?
It's not.
So.
(10:17):
If you're thinking in your headthat the main event of your
cycle is your period, it's not.
In fact, without this otherthing that women do that's so
incredibly special, you wouldnot have a period, and the
period is appropriately kind oflike the end of the sentence.
The period is the end ofsomething, and so first I want
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to start out with saying that,in order to really be able to
understand your hormones as awoman, you need to understand
your main event, and I can tellyou this your menstrual tracking
app isn't probably doing thatfor you.
In fact, the only way for yourmenstrual tracking app for it to
be able to do that is for youto pee on your phone, and I'm
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pretty sure most of you aren'tdoing that.
So this is really important tounderstand your menstrual
tracking app.
As you can see, like you'll putin your bleeding days right.
This is the first phase of yourcycle.
We call it the menstrual phase.
That's the first phase.
You put that into your trackingapp and what does it try to
predict for you into yourtracking app?
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And what does it try to predictfor you?
That fertile window, somethingwe call ovulation, and that's
what it can't predict.
That is the main event of yourcycle, and I want you to
understand, by the end of thispodcast, that you have the
ability each of you out there,as a young woman to track your
main event by the biologicalmarkers of your own body.
(11:46):
Okay, and so when you get tothe point where you are a
hormone genius this is whathappens you come into my office
and we sit down together and youstart telling me about your
cycles.
I say, okay, how?
What's the length of your cycle?
Do you have regular cycles?
Yes, I get a period every monthand I'll say to you that's
great, can you tell me when yourmain event is?
(12:08):
And you'll be like, yeah, yeah,I can see my main event.
I make this stuff calledcervical mucus and I track it
and I know exactly when Iovulate, instead of you looking
at me and going, yeah, my phonetells me I'm going to ovulate
next week, because often that'sthe level of information we
start with, which is greatbecause it's the first place,
(12:29):
but I want you to know that youcan track your own main event by
biological markers that we willgo through.
Okay.
So again, the first phase ofyour cycle which, by the way,
there is four and we have thosecards to share with you is the
menstrual phase.
The second phase is thespringtime.
It's like the preparation forthe main event.
We call that the follicularphase.
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And as you enter in thefollicular phase, you're going
to notice some changes.
And this is where we starttalking about hormone
superpowers, which we're goingto bring in St Joan of Arc.
Go St Joan of Arc, because sheobviously had amazing hormone
superpowers.
I mean, who just leads peopleto like conquer the English army
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and preserve their countryFrance in, you know, 1400.
So go St Joan of Arc.
She was amazing.
But that phase of the cycle isthe preparation for something
amazing to occur the follicularphase.
And it's in that phase that youwill start to produce this
fluid that we call cervicalmucus, which nobody really wants
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to say cervical mucus, but wedo a lot on our podcast and
we'll sometimes refer to it ascervical fluid to make it a
little bit less mucousy.
So again, menstrual phase,follicular phase, and then we're
going to go into the main event, right, jamie?
And you can take it from thereAll right.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So this whole time we're kind of leading up a
roller coaster, is what I liketo think.
So, as the body is progressingtoward the main event, what is
happening is that we have allthese little underdeveloped eggs
that are just waiting to matureand to be released, and so that
then, I mean again, our body isbuilt to want to receive the
sperm, so that we can, you know,it can be implanted into the
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side of the uterus so that wecan have babies.
That's the main event.
That's why it's the main eventis because without it we
wouldn't reproduce.
So as we ovulate, vent isbecause without it we wouldn't
reproduce.
So as we ovulate, then thedominant hormone and again she
talked about cervical fluid,cervical mucus, but that
dominant hormone is estrogen.
Look at that little postcardyou have, if you have it, and
again you see your period andthen you see a line called
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estrogen and it's starting toincrease and then it reaches a
peak and then it kind of fallsoff, and then as you ovulate,
the dominant hormone is calledprogesterone.
Progesterone is produced by thecorpus luteum.
The corpus luteum was the cyst,which is a fluid-filled sac
that holds the egg, and as itwas developing before ovulation,
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was producing the hormone.
Like I said, estrogendeveloping before ovulation was
producing the hormone, like Isaid, estrogen and what's really
cool.
And you guys, this is crazy.
So I have my master's incommunity health education,
community health education.
Okay, I have a women's healthcertificate, very passionate
about women's health when I wasin college, okay, and I never
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once in my life not by thedoctor, not by the professors
ever heard about one of my mostfavorite parts of the female
body and it's called cervicalcrypts.
Has anyone ever heard of acervical crypt?
Cervical crypts?
Give some cervical crypts somenoise, cervical crypts.
Next year we'll have a shirtthat says cervical crypts are
(15:44):
cool.
Would that be cool?
Hormones each year we can havea different part, not so sure.
Okay, we're gonna fight for it.
Yeah, but cervical crips arewhat produce the cervical mucus
and, again, that's keyed in fromour follicle, our mature
follicle.
So I love cervical fluid,cervical mucus so much and
without it we could not getpregnant.
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But after we ovulate, like Isaid, the corpus luteum, it
produces a hormone calledprogesterone.
So you look at that postcardand again, dominant hormone
estrogen before ovulation.
Dominant hormone afterovulation is progesterone.
Progesterone causes a verydrying effect.
So when you go to the bathroom,no longer are you seeing the
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cervical fluid.
It's dry.
Okay, this is very high level.
I invite you to be looking forpeople who might be able to walk
with you in understanding yourfertility cycle.
But again, this whole thinghappens for the main event, for
ovulation.
Most women know when they bleedbecause their period is red.
Most women don't know when theyovulate because they don't know
what to look for.
But I'm going to give you alittle trick.
When you go to the bathroom,just this seems maybe a little
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strange.
I think it's a genius idea, ahormone genius idea, if I may
say so myself.
But close your eyes when youwipe after the bathroom.
Future husbands of America,don't cover your ears.
I mean, it's coming.
You'll learn about it.
Now you're learning about it.
It won't be the end of thestory for you all, I guarantee
it.
Ask yourself the question whatdoes this feel like?
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And what's interesting is if itfeels lubricative.
We know estrogen is high, jamiewhat the heck does lubricative
mean, lubricative is um,lubricative is slimy like egg
white.
Is that what you're saying?
Like if I were to crack open anegg white on my counters and
wiped it with the Kleenex, thatwould be lubricative.
(17:37):
Yeah, slippery, super slippery,super like gushy.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Jamie, do we want to tell people and this has to do
with men like, why, why, whycervical mucus?
Like why do we have to talkabout it?
Do we want to tell people why?
Because this actually willbring in men, and it's super
important for men to understandthis.
There are three mainingredients to create a human
life, and this is why cervicalfluid, or mucus, is going to be
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important.
It takes an egg that comes froma woman and it takes something
else that comes from a man,right, these little things that
are called sperm.
Now, listen up, men, sperm,that's what do they do?
What do they do?
They swim, right, and can youswim in a pool with no water?
No, so in order to actuallycreate a human being, we have to
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have water in order for spermto get to an egg, up into the
female body.
So cervical mucus isessentially essential for life,
and we call this the window offertility.
And actually, a woman can onlyget pregnant in a six-day period
every menstrual cycle, theentire menstrual cycle.
Our fertile window is prettyshort.
There is only one egg that isreleased in a cycle and it only
lives for 12 to 24 hours.
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A woman can only becomepregnant in that fertile window,
and it is all defined by thisfluid that allows for conception
to occur.
So, men, it's very importantfor you to understand this as
well.
And then you have this greathormone called testosterone.
Right, and testosterone is whatmakes you powerful, but
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actually women make it too, andwhen women ov, our testosterone
levels go up.
And guess what?
The way God made us is that menand women become attracted to
each other when a woman can makea baby.
So women if you've not noticedthis already in terms of drive,
sex drive women will have sexdrive when they ovulate, but
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many times after the egg hasbeen released you don't.
And it makes sense.
The way God made us is, oncethe egg is released, your chance
for ever conceiving a life ispassed, so you don't need to
have sex.
Like God designed us in thesevery unique ways and it's also
something important to remembertoo.
So like we are Catholic here,right, and so we're trying to
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live a chaste life.
So if you have, and so we'retrying to live a chaste life, so
if you have a boyfriend andyou're trying to wait, let's say
, till marriage, till you enterinto a sexual relationship, then
it's probably not a good ideato watch a movie in the basement
when you're ovulating.
So that's just a littlerelationship advice.
In fact, we were talking to aguy at at Seek and he told us
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that that information was veryvaluable to him To understand
his girlfriend's cycle was sopowerful, and he learned that
information from listening toour podcast.
We have a podcast with a guynamed Dave and it's called what
is it called?
Jamie Like this informationthat every guy should listen to
this podcast and it really didhelp him and every guy should
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listen to that podcast with Daveon the Hormone Genius.
Because that information, guys,you really need to understand a
woman's cycle to be inrelationship with her, and it's
actually really helpful to youbecause if you want to make a
woman happy, there are certainthings you need to know about
premenstrual syndrome and a waya woman's body works so that you
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can understand when maybe to doa certain thing and when not to
do a certain thing.
Right, jamie?
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So one story that I remember from you, teresa and
this is like an origin story foryou, kind of, in getting
started with all of this work isthis very thing that you're
saying just now.
So what's very interesting,ladies, is that because we just
went through our cycle, right,but our cycle is a vital sign of
health.
So Teresa mentioned PMS, right,mood issues and, honestly, the
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guy we just mentioned, daveGetterman.
He talks about saving marriagesthrough NFP, because men can
come to know and learn aboutwhen a woman's mood may change
because of her hormonefluctuations, right?
So, teresa, something thatstuck out to me when we were
kind of getting going with ourpodcast here at the very
beginning of 2020 was how youcame to Napro technology and
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this work through yourunderstanding that low
progesterone can cause PMS.
So let's kind of start diggingin to PMS with these ladies.
Do you guys want to hear aboutPMS?
Who wants to hear about PMS?
Who wants to know about how tohelp your PMS?
What boyfriends would wish forhelp for their girlfriends with
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PMS, right, okay, so share yourstory, teresa.
I girlfriends with PMS, right,okay, so share your story,
teresa.
I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean it's kind of embarrassing because I
knew so little about my body asa young woman and I was in
graduate school.
I didn't know anything aboutovulation, nothing about
cervical mucus, and I waslearning about something called
Napro technology, which issomething I practice now.
I worked for the Pope Paul VIInstitute for years and I was
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having all of these symptoms.
I was getting anxious at times.
There were times I felt likedown, almost depressed, but not
really, but I just felt down attimes.
At times I just got like thesebad headaches and then I also
got terrible sugar cravings andI just remember like I was in
clinicals to become a nursepractitioner and I would be
driving home from the clinicalsand I'd be like eating candy
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bars and I just felt bad.
And I had my boyfriend at thetime, who is my now husband, dan
and he was like you know, youjust don't seem like you feel
really good.
And I was like, yeah, you'reright, I don't.
And so he's like maybe youshould go to a doctor Smart,
boyfriend, smart.
And so he's like, why don't wejust write down your symptoms?
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And so I wrote down a list ofmy symptoms and I took it to my
primary care doctor and shelooked at me and she's like I
think you're just depressed.
And I was like, okay, but Iknew I wasn't depressed.
Like, I did feel depressed attimes, I felt down, but I didn't
feel depressed all the time.
And so she offered me anantidepressant and I was like I
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don't know, I just don't thinkthat's what I need, so I didn't
take it.
And then I ended up right afterthat having a woman offer to
teach me how to chart my cycles.
And she was a nurse in theoffice that I learned about
napro technology and she's likeTeresa, do you know how to chart
?
And I was like no.
She's like, well, then, I'mgoing to teach you.
Her name was Rosemary, and soshe taught me how to chart every
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time I would go to clinical.
She taught me how to chart andall of a sudden I started to
realize that my symptoms alignedwith the like seven to 10 days
before my period every month.
I just had really bad PMS and Icouldn't even recognize it.
And that's why we talk about thecycle as a vital sign, because
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we know that in order for you asa human being I mean, this is
man or woman you need to knowthat, like, you can't connect
the symptoms of your body untilyou understand the science of
your body.
Like we believe that, like, ifyou can learn the science and
the hormones of your body whichthere are many that you can
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actually learn to advocate foryour health, and that's what I
was able to do.
So, once I learned this was PMS, then I went to a doctor who
was trained in Napro technologyand they tested my hormones.
They tested my hormones oncertain days of my cycle and I
learned that I wasn't reallymaking any good hormones, which,
to me you know.
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Now I'm like, oh yeah, I was ingraduate school, I was super
stressed out, I was not sleepingwell, I wasn't eating well, all
the things and I see this nowin my patients all the time and
so I was put on hormone therapyto help balance my hormones and
I felt so much better.
And so you have an opportunityto realize that, whatever the
condition that you areexperiencing again, some of you
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have talked to us at SEEKalready Some of you have
irregular cycles, some of youhave polycystic ovarian syndrome
, and maybe you're on the pill,maybe that's the only thing you
were offered, maybe you weretold that in order to treat PCOS
you have to be on the pill.
I hear that all the time in myoffice.
But you don't have to be on thepill.
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You can actually learn how tobalance your hormones naturally
and actually figure out what theunderlying root cause of your
woman's health issue is.
And that's what I do every dayin my practice is help women
find the underlying root causeof their woman's health
condition, and there are peopleall over the country and all
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over the world that are trained,just like me, and if you listen
to our podcast, we interview alot of those doctors and we try
to share how you can get intouch with those doctors too.
Amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So we hope you're getting the sense that your
cycle is more, really even, thanjust our reproduction.
You know, it's more than justwhen I'm fertile, when I'm
infertile.
It gives us information, evenabout our mood, our hormones,
when we have our bioidenticalhormones that are circulating
and we're honoring that flow, nopun intended, the flow of our
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hormones.
It protects estrogen protectsour bone, our heart and our
muscles, and it's just sointeresting Our brain, our heart
and our bones is what I mean,but probably our muscles too.
What'd you think?
Estrogen causes muscle growth.
Yeah, so it's very interesting.
Women need to know this becausewe unknowingly alter this flow.
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We unknowingly alter the flowand actually now we're going to
flow into our third cool thingabout why hormones are so
amazing is that we havesuperpowers attached to our
womanhood and we also havesuperpowers attached to manhood,
of course, but the superpowersI really want to explain to you
all are the superpowersassociated with estrogen and
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progesterone.
So, again, this is a perfecttransition, teresa, because we
talked a little bit about healthand I'm sure many of you have
again PMS or endometriosis, pcos, mood swings, issues, and we're
going to be lingering aroundafter our podcast today for you
that just have questions thatyou haven't been able to find
answers, we are very happy tohelp you with that.
But many of you may not realizethat, again, our hormones
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influence our being, our beingOne of my favorite things to
think about, especially with StJoan of Arc being the patron
saint of Sikh this year.
And again, I love thinkingabout how St Joan of Arc, she
slays dragons.
I'm like slaying dragons andbalancing hormones.
That's the Hormone Geniuspodcast, right?
Not only are we you knowhormones are so cool, but
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understanding how to balancethese hormones do affect, again
beyond just reproduction.
Some examples so, as Teresamentioned earlier, every cycle
starts with day one of ourperiod.
It means that we did not getpregnant from the cycle before.
Our hormones are at an all-timelow right and so typically,
we're experiencing our period.
We may feel a littleuncomfortable, some of us more
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uncomfortable than others, andit's a great time to just rest.
But did you know that duringyour period, a time that we all
kind of loathe, it seems like?
I encourage you to no longerloathe your period, but to see
it as a favor to you in terms ofwhat comes with this time.
It's a great time to discernand to reflect, because your
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hormones are an all-time low.
Women tend to just be more evenkeel.
So I know for me, if I'mdiscerning, maybe to start a new
project, or many of you guysmay be discerning a new job,
some of you may be discerningmarriage moving, something like
that.
This is a great time to journaland to reflect and to really
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ask God to accompany you in thisquiet space.
So that's your hormonesuperpower during your period is
that, again, you can reflectand journal, really leverage
this time.
But then as that follicle isdeveloping and estrogen is
starting to produce, estrogen tome is like coffee.
You know, in the morning youdrink a cup of coffee and you
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become more like, awake andenergized, and then you drink
cup number two.
None of us drink two cups ofcoffee a day, right?
None of us.
We stop at a cup and we're done, right, just joking.
So as estrogen is increasing,it's kind of like drinking more
and more cups of coffee in termsof this analogy.
So as estrogen increases andit's starting to reach toward
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that ovulation time, as women,estrogen is fuel for our
feminine engine.
We become more creative.
When we have increasingestrogen, we're more energized.
Did you know that?
If you were to look at theperson next to you.
Just look at the person next toyou.
Women.
Women and men, you can too, butwomen looking at the person
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next to you and even throughoutthe course of the rest of this
conference.
If you are near ovulation, youhave a higher ability to read
facial expressions and tounderstand what those facial
expressions mean.
Hello, how cool is that?
Estrogen is so incredible.
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There's an estrogen genius tothat phase of approaching
ovulation.
We're more fertile than againjust our fertility.
We're fertile in the mind,we're creative, we're able again
to kind of sense situations,among others.
So, as again we're reachingtoward ovulation, our estrogen
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is increasing.
A great time again to get infront of a room and do public
speaking or to present or tocome up with your great idea,
okay.
And then, after ovulation,progesterone is your dominant
hormone.
Progesterone is really.
It stands for progestate.
Your body is preparing forgestation, even if conception
did not take place.
Conception means sperm plus egg, thatation.
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Even if conception did not takeplace, conception means sperm
plus egg.
That's conception.
If conception did not takeplace during ovulation, your
body's still producingprogesterone, because you need
progesterone, ample amounts ofprogesterone, to sustain a baby
if you did achieve pregnancy.
If you did not achievepregnancy, then a couple weeks
later you get your period, butduring progesterone,
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progesterone has its own geniustoo.
So progesterone is kind ofsedating.
We are more calm and we're morefocused and detail-oriented.
That's what a healthy dose ofprogesterone looks like.
So it's really incrediblebecause, women, we can really
leverage our cycle for ourproductivity, for our creativity
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in our relationships.
In terms of relationships whenyour estrogen is high before
ovulation, when you're thatcreative and that like again
fuel for the feminine engine, Ilove saying that you're also
very attracted, obviously, tothe opposite sex, just like you
were mentioning earlier, teresa,saying you know, you, your
libido is much higher duringthat estrogen genius phase right
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before ovulation.
So if you're married, just knowthat that's really important
and we want to again see thatmasculine man that's very
attracted to us.
But after ovulation, we want tosee the husbands bopping the
kids on the knee, you know, oreven boyfriends, have you guys?
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If you guys have a boyfriendlike past, present and into the
future you will likely noticethat you're very attracted to
your boyfriend or spouse indifferent ways throughout the
course of a month.
Have you ever seen yourboyfriend bop a kid on the knee
or like play ball or laugh andbe kind of fun with little kids.
Do you guys know what I'mtalking about?
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Ladies, well, we can find thatendearing no matter where we're
at in our cycle, but weespecially like it after
ovulation because our body'spreparing for gestation right.
Our body does this every monthand what does that mean?
We want somebody that we knowcan protect us and a family.
That's why we're more attractedto our boyfriends and husbands
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when they're in the family.
So in the episode with Dave, aswe mentioned earlier, if the men
in this room are wondering man,how can I show my girlfriend or
wife love in this, likepost-ovulatory time?
Literally, just find a friendof kids and be like, hey, can we
babysit?
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Literally, that's all you needto do, you know.
So the cycle gives us so muchinformation and it's not just
for women, like we talk about.
It's really.
It's so important for men toknow this too, because I didn't
realize really until talkingwith you know, dave in
particular, but other men whoare passionate about this how
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hurtful it is to men when theirwives are saying no to intimacy
during certain times of thecycle.
It's very, it can be veryhurtful, but if they just really
understood that our desires andthe way we find them attractive
changes.
It just soothes so much.
It soothes so much.
So that's the third cool thing.
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Do you have anything else youwant to add about hormone
superpowers?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, I mean when you're saying that, jamie, I
like to say that libido isattached to procreative power,
libido is attached toprocreative power, libido is
attached to procreative power,and so this again goes to the
complementarity of men and women.
So, again, men are fertileevery day of their life, from
the age of about 12 untilthey're buried in the ground.
So their libido is justdifferent because they're
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procreative every single day.
Women are procreative in anevent, a one-time event, each
menstrual cycle, and so if acouple doesn't know that, there
can be a lot of like tension andlack of communication.
So this is truly likelife-changing for relationships
to understand a menstrual cycleand to understand the way it
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affects a woman's body and howwe can live in relationship
together.
I want to tell you a storyabout a patient that I saw
recently.
This patient, she was in her30s and she had had previous
children with a previousrelationship, but then she found
kind of like you could say, hertrue love, and her true love in
her got married, but she hadthese two children and she love
in her got married, but she hadthese two children and she was
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in her 30s and she didn't reallythink that she wanted any more
children.
So they had made a decision notto have more children.
Now here's the kicker she hadbeen on birth control since she
was about 16 years old.
She had been on birth controlpills since she was about 16
years old, unless until shewanted to have those two
children.
That she did already.
But she listened to the HormoneGenius podcast and learned
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about how synthetic hormoneskind of disrupt your natural
hormones, and so she made thisdecision that she wanted to go
all natural, and so she came offof the birth control pill and
all of a sudden she realized shewas attracted to her husband
for the first time.
Now, women don't know this, butthink about it.
What does birth control pillsdo?
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They suppress the main event.
They are meant to suppress themain event of the cycle.
So, of course, if you suppressthe main event and I just told
you that the main event isattached to your libido directly
you are going to suppress sexdrive, and that's why one of the
main side effects of birthcontrol pills is lack of libido.
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And women don't even know thisbecause they don't understand
their bodies going into takingthese medicines right.
So first of all, sheunderstands.
All of a sudden she's like, wow, like I'm attracted to my
husband in a way I've never beenattracted to before, and then
all of a sudden she starts tonotice that she desires another
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child.
Think about this, guys Againhormones.
We discovered this word in 1904.
And by 1955, we've developed asynthetic pill to completely
suppress the maternal desirethat we have, the inmost
identity we have as women, thedesire in the deepest parts of
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our human heart to be creative,to be creative, to be a mother,
whether it be biological orspiritual.
But we suppress that by usingthese synthetic hormones, and
women aren't even aware of it.
This is not the first patientI've had that when they come off
birth control pills, all of asudden they're like looking at a
baby for the first time andthey're like I think I want one
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of those.
Can you imagine?
We've got millions and millionsof women who don't realize that
they're suppressing theirdesire to have children by being
on birth control.
So the good news is thisbeautiful woman who's now
married to the love of her life.
She now wants to have a babywith her husband, and so I'm
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going to help her do that.
But that's just one story Idon't think you know.
Birth control is often mentionedas like one of the greatest
inventions, you could say, ofthe 20th century.
Right, it's changed, like theway women have been able to
climb up the ladder of society.
It's changed culture directly,and so we don't question
sometimes really what it's doingto our hormones, to our body,
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to who we are as women.
You know, jamie and I weretalking.
This whole conference is kindof like a question, right, how
many of you have been in a talkwhere they said, like do you
know your identity?
Do you know your identity inChrist?
Do you know your identity as awoman or a daughter of God?
Do you know your identity inyour own hormones?
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Well, jamie and I are convincedthat learning about the science
of your body is deeplyconnected to who you are as made
in the image and likeness ofGod.
In fact, we believe that if youknow your body and you know
your hormones, you will actuallyunderstand who you are in your
feminine genius in a way thatyou have never understood it
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before.
You can do this.
And I believe that men too, intheir male genius, like do you
guys realize that men'stestosterone levels have
declined over 50% since the 1980?
Fact why?
Why are men out there notfeeling motivated.
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Why are men losing their desireto be powerful, strong,
purpose-driven life?
Well, it may be because theirhormones are not the same as
they were in 1980.
That's crazy to me.
So, guys, we all need to careabout hormones.
And, men, we can take controlof this in terms of you being
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healthy too.
In fact, one thing that youcould do today is you could make
sure that you have good andadequate vitamin D.
Vitamin D is a precursor tomaking testosterone.
In fact, it's considered apre-hormone.
So, all of you men out there,if you don't know what your
vitamin D level is, you couldask a doctor to run that test
for you.
But I assure you that if youjust go out and buy a supplement
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of vitamin D3 2000 I use andyou take that daily, you will
have actually bettertestosterone.
And actually taking zinc oreating nuts like Brazil nuts,
which have a good amount of zinc, is also super good for your
testosterone too.
And, by the way, if you justactually sleep at night, if you
just actually get eight hours ofsleep, men, you will make
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better testosterone too.
All of us need to care abouthormones, because hormones are
life.
Hormones affect everyinteraction in our body, from
our sex hormones progesterone,estrogen, testosterone from our
thyroid to our adrenal hormones,like cortisol and adrenaline,
to our pancreas, like insulin.
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Our hormones literally aremaking messages like trillions
of times a day.
We all need to care about howimportant this is to our health
and you, as women, have thepower now, becoming a genius of
your own hormones, to advocatein your doctor's offices that
you don't want necessarily tosettle for birth control pills
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for whatever problem that youhave.
That you can say to your doctor.
You know what?
I would actually like sometests to know what the
underlying problem that I haveis and I'd actually like to find
the solution to that problem.
You have the power now toadvocate for yourself and if
your doctor doesn't listen toyou or makes you feel dumb for
wanting a hormone test, then youwalk straight out of that
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doctor's office and you go to adifferent doctor Because I'm
telling you they do notunderstand this.
They were not trained in medicalschool.
They don't know about cervicalmucus.
I promise you, doctors withthat degree, md, do not know
about cervical mucus.
It is a travesty.
Md do not know about cervicalmucus.
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It is a travesty.
We are in a great enlightenmentin terms of what we know about
the woman's body, and all of usnow can make a difference.
Each one of you, becoming ahormone genius, can actually
tell a friend.
You can actually share thehappy girl with a friend.
This is so important.
It's important to everything,isn't it?
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Jamie?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Super, duper, duper important.
And something I just keepthinking about too is just how
impactful, again, being hormoneaware is.
So being hormone awaretransforms us.
It really does.
It's this idea that when we'regiven information that we
haven't been given before, alight bulb clicks on.
It really does.
How many of you guys had alight bulb moment with hormones
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Right?
So many of us have thesemoments where literally it
changes our life and I have acouple of stories I want to
share about that.
So it's very interesting.
So, as many of you probably knowor soon will know, when you
prepare for marriage, often thepriest requires that you do some
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form of NFP natural familyplanning.
Okay, natural family planningand tracking your cycle, that
kind of all goes together.
So, because the church, theCatholic church, does not see
contraception as an ethical andmoral way to plan a family.
So natural family planning isthe natural way to avoid a
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pregnancy, if that is the wish,and also to time pregnancy.
So a gal and her fiance she wason the pill and they were
living together and just like somany other couples before they
waltzed into you know, thepresentation space and there I
was just going away talking allabout how awesome the cycle is
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and our awesome cervical mucusand our estrogen and
progesterone.
And I did my spiel, just likeI've done a million times before
, and again I couldn't.
I didn't notice anythingdifferent about them.
They just kind of fell intostep with so many others that
only come because they'rerequired by the priest.
But what was interesting aboutthis couple is they left.
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But three months later shecalled me and I didn't know who
she was right away.
I couldn't even remember hername.
But she told me she could notstop thinking about what she
learned about her hormones.
And it was interesting becausein that time she stopped taking
birth control and she asked tomeet with me and her fiance to
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talk a little bit more aboutwhat it could look like to
actually chart her cycle.
So when they started chartingtheir cycle, they started to
understand the dignity of ourhormones and the dignity of our
fertility cycle and how awesomethe Lord made our body.
The Lord loves us so much, likehe gives us a way to plan our
family and when we have a childthat maybe we didn't plan, we
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know.
We know all life is given to usby the Lord.
He loves us so much.
He gives us this beautiful map.
Okay, so she is coming to learnthis with her fiance and I just
asked the question what wouldhappen to your relationship if
you didn't have sex until thewedding night?
And they just kind of stopped.
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And I looked at both of themBecause, again, initially, when
they came into this introsession for the Creighton Method
that's what's called the introsession she again was totally
turned off to the idea.
I thought it was weird andwould never even consider
something like that.
But they discerned it and theydecided that they were no longer
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going to have sex until thewedding night.
So they waited for theirwedding night.
Later she became a fertilitycare practitioner, converted to
the Catholic faith, directed awomen's health care center that
does not prescribe birth control, all because her priest
required that her and her fiancewould come to an introductory
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session.
The lights clicked on for her.
What did I do?
What did Jamie say?
What did Jamie do?
I just told him the truth.
I just told him the truth.
It's not my invention, it's notTeresa's invention.
We're the Lord's invention.
And when we are exposed totruth, our soul recognizes it.
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Our soul recognizes truth notjust with hormones, with
anything.
Our heart burns, you know, onthe road to Emmaus, when you
know they're talking about ohJesus, and the heart burns when
Jesus was with him because theynoticed the truth of who that
was.
They just couldn't name it.
So we know truth, we feel itand it transforms lives.
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You know, like there's lots ofthings out there.
There's, you know, gut healthand lifestyle and healthy eating
and taking care of our body andgetting enough sleep and all
that's staying hydrated.
All that's very, very important.
But the reason Teresa and I areso passionate about this is
because our hormones again, maleand female, we both have
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hormones.
But these reproductive hormones, the hormones that help us
produce life, co-create lifewith God, it changes the eternal
cosmos forever the moment thata soul enters this world.
It changes the eternal cosmosforever.
The moment that a soul entersthis world, our whole eternity
is changed forever.
That moment it's important.
The creative process of ourhormone endocrine reproductive
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system is, in my mind, one ofthe most spiritual systems in
our body, 100%, because it hasthe capacity to co -create with
the Lord.
That's why we make such a bigdeal about it.
We love healthy living tips, welove talking about gut health.
We love that.
That's fun.
That is fun.
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But in terms of the spiritual,faith-filled pull we have, it's
really tied to our God-givenimage, because our hormones
mirror the fabric of ourfeminine soul.
Our hormones mirror the fabricof our feminine soul, feminine
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genius.
Women and men are different,right?
Women, if we hear a baby inthis room, we're going to be
like where's the baby?
Like ding, like stick thefinger up, kind of checking for,
like wind or rain.
That's what we do with our earsand our heart.
We're like where's the baby?
The baby's crying, we're payingattention to it.
If our friend is crying to us,we mom our friend.
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We're not their mom, but we momthem and we're not going to
stop momming anyone, whether wehave actual biological children
or not.
So there's a maternity withinour feminine genius, a maternity
within our feminine genius.
But that makes sense, right,because our hormones and our
estrogen and our progesterone,all of this goes together to
produce life, to make usmaternal physically.
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But it mirrors the soul, oursoul, the maternal beautiful
gift of our soul.
Secondly, with our femininegenius is we're receptive.
We receive the other.
You know someone's having ahard time.
We receive them.
We hug them, we sense them, wefeel them.
But we also receive ourhusbands.
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Our egg receives the sperm.
So our hormones really mirrorour feminine genius, the fabric
of our feminine soul.
It's so beautiful.
We're generous, the way ourbody's made.
We have breasts, we feed ourbabies, but we also feel that
pull to give to the poor.
Again, not to say men don'tfeel that, but there's just this
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beautiful way, this feminineway, that we have that capacity
to do that.
And, lastly, we're verysensitive.
You know, did you know thatthere are more nerve endings on
the female body?
I think there's 20 times morenerve endings on a female than
there is a man Interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
It's great when it comes to childbirth.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Oh dear goodness, yeah, oh dear goodness, yeah, oh
dear goodness.
So anyway, it's just abeautiful thing.
So that's the fourth reallycool thing about hormones, and
then we're going to kind ofstart wrapping up.
Fourth coolest thing is thathormone awareness can transform
us.
The fifth one is just tyingthis whole idea with Joan of Arc
and kind of coming to aconclusion that we can be the
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genius of our hormones and toreally set your hearts aflame
and to fight this kind of fight,this good fight.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah, I mean, I want to share a story and I'll let
Jamie kind of close up and Iwant to thank you all for being
here and again, if you stayaround, you're going to get a
free book.
So please line up and I'm happyto sign the book as well.
But this is you know, jamiesaid this the desire of the
sacredness of life.
This passion that we both havecomes from our hearts.
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It really does, and both of usare very pro-life women.
We want to serve and we want tohelp.
Women believe that life issacred and I just want to share
a quick story with you.
On Christmas Eve this year, Igot to be in the delivery of a
child that was born of a motherwho had reversed her abortion.
Now, some of you have neverheard this before, but at my
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clinic we do something calledabortion pill reversal.
There is a medication out thereand many of you may know that
is a set of pills that can betaken to cause an abortion, and
my clinic actually has aprotocol that's used all over
the country and all over theworld to reverse that process.
And this young woman sheactually started in Colorado but
she ended up in Nebraska and Iserved her because she desired
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to reverse and to keep her baby.
Well, guess what?
On the day before Christmas EveI told her.
I said, listen, if you needsomeone to be in your labor and
delivery with you because shehad no friends, her boyfriend
wasn't supportive, her parentswere not supportive, and so I
said, if you need someone to bewith you during this birth, I
said, please call me, I willcome.
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On the day before Christmas EveI got a text at seven in the
morning that her water had brokeand she wanted me to be there
with her.
So I went to the hospital andstayed with her all night and I
labored with her and I helpedher through the process of labor
and delivery and she ended upnot making progress and ended up
with a cesarean on ChristmasEve.
And I was there in the deliverywith her with a cesarean on
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Christmas Eve and I was there inthe delivery with her and she
had a beautiful little baby boy.
And she told me over and overagain.
She said, teresa.
She said, can you believe it?
She said can you believe it?
We were able to reverse thisLike, look at my baby, like he's
here.
I can't believe.
I didn't want this little boy.
So a lot of times again, in thisprocess of learning about our
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bodies and learning about ourhormones, we realize the
sacredness of who we are.
As human beings, we connect tothat inmost feminine soul, the
masculinity of who we are.
And so to come full circle.
For me, I was so grateful.
The greatest Christmas presentI could have ever been given on
Christmas Eve is to hold thehand of a young woman who had
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first thought she had no supportfor her and her little baby and
thought that the only choicethat she had was an abortion,
but then to find that thatwasn't the last answer, that she
could reverse her abortion andthat we could hold her baby
together and praise God in that.
So that is my Christmas Eve isbeing there and being able to
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hold this little life, and Jamieand I really believe that the
sacredness of life is soimportant.
So we do this because of ourpassionate pro-life views, but
we do this because we love thescience of hormones, teresa.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I want to tell you something quick, all of you.
What did we just notice aboutTeresa's story?
She was not this lady's doctor.
She wasn't the lady's mother orsister or doula.
She was a woman who saw theneed in another.
She was exercising her femininegenius, the maternity of her
feminine soul.
She's not her mom, she is a mom.
(54:57):
She's not her mom.
So I just wanted to point thatout to you.
That's amazing, teresa, that youlistened to it.
You could have said, oh my gosh, it's Christmas, I have eight
children.
You know this person has a need, but oh, that's kind of a
hassle.
But her heart was saying leaninto the feminine genius, lean
into it.
We all have a choice to say noto that and that definitely
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connects again to our womanhood,to our hormones.
But I encourage all of youthroughout the rest of this SEEK
conference, if you see somebodybeing a feminine genius or a
hormone genius, call it out tothem.
Hey, I saw you helping that momwho was struggling with that
kid.
That's so cool.
You're such a cool femininegenius Like you're really
leaning into that.
Or if somebody is comfortinganother or hugging, really just
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pay attention to that.
Where do you see the femininegenius in action and just know
that that reflects our hormonegenius.
And how incredible is that.
So cool, so cool.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
If any of you want to go into nursing, into the
medical profession, I'm happy toanswer questions about what
it's like to live in my world,like what it's like to try to
practice without ever usingbirth control pills.
So Jamie and I will hang around.
We'll be here in the morning.
We'll try to stay around theUniversity of St Thomas booth
and the Mac Studio booth in thatarea there.
We would invite you to cometalk to us.
(56:13):
We love speaking to you and so,again, if you stay after, we're
going to pass out the HappyGirls Guide to being Whole.
Also, jamie has the FiatInstitute that she started,
which is a hormone school whereshe teaches people to be hormone
coaches.
So if this speaks to your heart, you have a passion for wanting
to help others with theirhormones.
She has a program, acertification program, for
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becoming a hormone coach.
She would love to speak to youabout that.
Again, look at the program forUniversity of St Thomas and the
gender studies, leah Jacobson,who is the founder of the
Guiding Star Project.
She's not over there, but shewill be over there tomorrow.
Please come talk to Leah.
She's an amazing woman.
She's done incredible thingswith the Guiding Star Project
(56:55):
and is now going to do anamazing thing with this gender
studies program, and then wehave this questionnaire that
hopefully all of you got a holdof.
If you would like to answerthat questionnaire, you get
entered into a drawing to win a$50 Amazon card.
We're going to give away threeof them, so your chances are
pretty good, so that really isawesome for us If you can answer
those questions.
We really want to thank you forbeing present here today and
(57:18):
taking the time to be with us,and thanks, jamie, for you being
here as well.
Thanks, teresa.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Thank you you.
Welcome to the Seek 25 podcast, featuring some of
our favorite podcasters recordedlive at the Max Studios podcast
stage during Seek 25 in SaltLake City.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Ladies and gentlemen, please gather around because
this information, I assure you,will change your life and men
out there.
I assure you this informationis for you too.
We are the Hormone GeniusPodcast and we are excited to be
doing this live podcast atSeek25.
First I want to thank Kyle fromMax Studios, isn't he?
(00:41):
He's amazing.
This entire live podcast studio, the setup is amazing.
Let's give them, mac Studios, around of applause for all the
incredible work they're doing atSeek 25.
If you haven't been over totheir booth over there, it's
right over there with theUniversity of St Thomas, so
please check it out.
There's an incredible newwoman's health care and gender
(01:02):
identity studies.
I probably murdered that title,but please check them out over
there.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
We know that most of you alreadyknow why this is so important,
but maybe some of you out heredon't.
Hormones are cool and, jamieand I, the theme of this
conference.
We haven't seen our ladiesaround with a backpack that says
(01:25):
do you know why your hormonesare cool?
Well, we're going to share thatinformation with you tonight or
this evening and we've got someamazing facts about hormones.
But I want to tell you a littlebit about hormones first, kind
of from a historical perspective.
I was doing a little researchand I was fascinated to find out
(01:45):
that the word hormone actuallywas discovered in 1904, which,
if you think about it, reallywasn't that long ago.
Now we've known that there'sthese things, these chemical
messengers, these likeinteractions between cells in
the body, but it wasn't coineduntil 1904 that we would call
(02:06):
that word a hormone.
Now a lot has happened in thelast 100 years, 124 years in
terms of hormones and, jamie,and I think that in terms of
women especially and theidentity of who we are as women,
that we kind of took a wrongturn with hormones.
And if you don't know what I'mtalking about, in 1950, around
(02:30):
1956, we developed synthetichormones, something called oral
contraceptive pills, and thatintersects almost with every
woman on the planet, because atsome point many of you out there
have been offered birth controlpills and not for birth control
.
You've been offered birthcontrol for PMS, for PCOS, for
(02:56):
acne, for heavy periods, forpainful periods, and so for
those of you out there, in fact,raise your hands right now if
you have been offered the birthcontrol pill for a woman's
health reason.
I know I have.
When I was in college I playedsoccer at Briarcliff College in
(03:16):
Sioux City, iowa.
We have any Iowa people hereAwesome.
I'm actually from Nebraska,nebraska, of course.
Yay, thank you for all myNebraska people out there.
I'm from Omaha, nebraska, but Iplayed soccer at Briarcliff in
Sioux City and I was offered thebirth control pill because my
(03:36):
cycles became irregular as anathlete Very common situation
and I can tell you that I didnot feel good on birth control.
And so I'm here to tell you thatthere is another way.
Synthetic hormones suppress ourfemale identity.
Synthetic hormones are not thereal hormonal you and I want to
(03:57):
give you an opportunity toreally believe that your
hormones were made good.
You were made good by God, yourbody is made good and your
hormones are good, and so Jamieis going to tell us some amazing
facts.
She's going to get us started.
But just so you know, again,I'm Teresa Kenney.
This is Jamie Rachi.
We're the Hormone Genius Podcast.
(04:17):
Again, I'm from Omaha, nebraska.
I am a women's health nursepractitioner and I have
practiced in Omaha for 25 years.
I have an incredible amount ofclinical experience in women's
health and I have never in mypractice prescribed the birth
control pill, and I can tell youthat I've never felt that I
have not been able to help awoman with any of those
(04:39):
conditions like PCOS, like PMS,like acne.
All of those things can betreated another way.
There is an alternative and youknow.
Many of you out there have notbeen shared that information.
Please stick around at the endof this podcast because I have a
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(05:03):
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So if you can stick around tothe end of this podcast, you can
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So please do, jamie, take itaway, girl.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
All right, teresa, I'm so excited to see all of you
today because, again, as wewere roaming around and people
would stop and ask and say, well, what's with your backpack?
Why are hormones?
Cool?
And if you guys received alittle postcard, you also have a
little snapshot of the cycleand so, if you have that
(05:46):
postcard, whip it out.
If you don't raise your hand,someone will pass one to you,
share it with your neighbor,because we will be able to use
that as a guide.
But while that's happening,I'll introduce myself a little
bit.
So, teresa and I, we started thepodcast in 2020, august, and it
(06:09):
has been an incredible fouryears.
I'm from Cedar Falls, iowa.
Okay, I was hoping for it to bereally loud.
Let's do it again, just for myown pride.
And go Cedar Falls Iowa yeah,we'll see who wins at the end.
Teresa, yeah, and go CedarFalls Iowa, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, we'll see who wins at theend.
Teresa, yeah, huskers, goHuskers.
(06:30):
Panthers you and I, panthers.
All right.
So, anyway, we are so excited totalk to you guys about this.
We are total hormone nerds andwe pretty much guarantee, by the
end of this, many of you willgo from like maybe a hormone
interest.
You know you're kind of in thehaze to hormone obsessed.
So we're going to talk aboutfive cool things about hormones.
(06:51):
And Teresa got us kicked offwith one of the first cool
things about hormones.
She mentioned that hormones arechemical messengers that travel
through the blood.
And what I think is sointeresting, you guys, about how
God made our body.
Our body's goal is to survive.
Every day, every day.
Our body, the main goal is tosurvive and to produce.
(07:14):
It's why we need sleep, it'swhy we have a sex drive, it's
why we need to eat food, it'seven why we get all weird when
we travel and that we need to goto the chiropractor.
This is an interesting fact.
Did you know that our bodywants to stay in equilibrium so
terribly?
And again, our hormones help usstay in balance inwardly, but
(07:37):
even outwardly our body is meantto stay in balance.
Our eyes.
So I'm looking at you.
All right, my eyes are exactlybalanced.
It's not tilted right, but whathappens is it's so important
for my body to protect a veryimportant organ called the brain
and it's very important for meto survive, so I can see that
(07:58):
everything else about my bodydistorts.
It's why we need chiropracticadjustments, for instance, as an
example.
But that's kind of how hormonesare.
Our hormones adjust to whatmight be off in the body and our
hormones want to keep us alive.
So I often think about, you know, hormones being a symphony.
Teresa, we've heard that before.
(08:21):
Right, you know there's abeautiful symphony and there's
instruments.
There's the clarinets andtheets and the flutes.
And, by the way, has anybodyband?
Are any of you guys bandplayers?
Oh, yeah, band.
So in your early years, do youremember what the band sounded
like?
Kind of bad, right, Squeakyclarinets, for instance.
That was me, but it would ruinthe whole experience, in a sense
, of that beautiful band or of asymphony, in terms of like, if
(08:45):
you're using a violin and it'sgoing too fast.
So again, when one thing is off, it kind of affects the whole
symphony.
That's what happens with ourhormones.
So hormones are chemicalmessengers.
It's more than just estrogenand progesterone, but those are
going to be some hormones wetalk mostly about today.
So, teresa, what would you saywe're going to talk about the
(09:05):
second very important thing foryou guys all to know about how
cool our hormones are In termsof our sex hormones.
So when we say sex hormones,especially today, we're going to
talk about estrogen andprogesterone and what's
interesting is that we have afertility cycle and every month
there's this main event andwe're going to kind of go
(09:28):
through that cycle with youespecially if you have one of
those postcards and I'm going tokick it off to Teresa.
But we have this cycle.
That's a vital sign of health.
And that is the second coolthing about hormones.
So the first thing is thathormones are chemical messengers
and the main goal is to keepour body in balance and in
equilibrium.
The second thing is that ourcycle is actually a vital sign
(09:50):
of health.
It's a health diary.
So, teresa, why don't you sharewith our audience here a little
bit about the cycle?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
How many of you guys track your menstrual cycles on
an app on your phone?
Great, it's such a great thingto do.
How many of you know what themain event of your cycle is?
Great, how many of you thinkit's your period?
It's not.
So.
(10:17):
If you're thinking in your headthat the main event of your
cycle is your period, it's not.
In fact, without this otherthing that women do that's so
incredibly special, you wouldnot have a period, and the
period is appropriately kind oflike the end of the sentence.
The period is the end ofsomething, and so first I want
(10:39):
to start out with saying that,in order to really be able to
understand your hormones as awoman, you need to understand
your main event, and I can tellyou this your menstrual tracking
app isn't probably doing thatfor you.
In fact, the only way for yourmenstrual tracking app for it to
be able to do that is for youto pee on your phone, and I'm
(11:02):
pretty sure most of you aren'tdoing that.
So this is really important tounderstand your menstrual
tracking app.
As you can see, like you'll putin your bleeding days right.
This is the first phase of yourcycle.
We call it the menstrual phase.
That's the first phase.
You put that into your trackingapp and what does it try to
predict for you into yourtracking app?
(11:26):
And what does it try to predictfor you?
That fertile window, somethingwe call ovulation, and that's
what it can't predict.
That is the main event of yourcycle, and I want you to
understand, by the end of thispodcast, that you have the
ability each of you out there,as a young woman to track your
main event by the biologicalmarkers of your own body.
(11:46):
Okay, and so when you get tothe point where you are a
hormone genius this is whathappens you come into my office
and we sit down together and youstart telling me about your
cycles.
I say, okay, how?
What's the length of your cycle?
Do you have regular cycles?
Yes, I get a period every monthand I'll say to you that's
great, can you tell me when yourmain event is?
(12:08):
And you'll be like, yeah, yeah,I can see my main event.
I make this stuff calledcervical mucus and I track it
and I know exactly when Iovulate, instead of you looking
at me and going, yeah, my phonetells me I'm going to ovulate
next week, because often that'sthe level of information we
start with, which is greatbecause it's the first place,
(12:29):
but I want you to know that youcan track your own main event by
biological markers that we willgo through.
Okay.
So again, the first phase ofyour cycle which, by the way,
there is four and we have thosecards to share with you is the
menstrual phase.
The second phase is thespringtime.
It's like the preparation forthe main event.
We call that the follicularphase.
(12:50):
And as you enter in thefollicular phase, you're going
to notice some changes.
And this is where we starttalking about hormone
superpowers, which we're goingto bring in St Joan of Arc.
Go St Joan of Arc, because sheobviously had amazing hormone
superpowers.
I mean, who just leads peopleto like conquer the English army
(13:13):
and preserve their countryFrance in, you know, 1400.
So go St Joan of Arc.
She was amazing.
But that phase of the cycle isthe preparation for something
amazing to occur the follicularphase.
And it's in that phase that youwill start to produce this
fluid that we call cervicalmucus, which nobody really wants
(13:34):
to say cervical mucus, but wedo a lot on our podcast and
we'll sometimes refer to it ascervical fluid to make it a
little bit less mucousy.
So again, menstrual phase,follicular phase, and then we're
going to go into the main event, right, jamie?
And you can take it from thereAll right.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So this whole time we're kind of leading up a
roller coaster, is what I liketo think.
So, as the body is progressingtoward the main event, what is
happening is that we have allthese little underdeveloped eggs
that are just waiting to matureand to be released, and so that
then, I mean again, our body isbuilt to want to receive the
sperm, so that we can, you know,it can be implanted into the
(14:16):
side of the uterus so that wecan have babies.
That's the main event.
That's why it's the main eventis because without it we
wouldn't reproduce.
So as we ovulate, vent isbecause without it we wouldn't
reproduce.
So as we ovulate, then thedominant hormone and again she
talked about cervical fluid,cervical mucus, but that
dominant hormone is estrogen.
Look at that little postcardyou have, if you have it, and
again you see your period andthen you see a line called
(14:38):
estrogen and it's starting toincrease and then it reaches a
peak and then it kind of fallsoff, and then as you ovulate,
the dominant hormone is calledprogesterone.
Progesterone is produced by thecorpus luteum.
The corpus luteum was the cyst,which is a fluid-filled sac
that holds the egg, and as itwas developing before ovulation,
(15:01):
was producing the hormone.
Like I said, estrogendeveloping before ovulation was
producing the hormone, like Isaid, estrogen and what's really
cool.
And you guys, this is crazy.
So I have my master's incommunity health education,
community health education.
Okay, I have a women's healthcertificate, very passionate
about women's health when I wasin college, okay, and I never
(15:21):
once in my life not by thedoctor, not by the professors
ever heard about one of my mostfavorite parts of the female
body and it's called cervicalcrypts.
Has anyone ever heard of acervical crypt?
Cervical crypts?
Give some cervical crypts somenoise, cervical crypts.
Next year we'll have a shirtthat says cervical crypts are
(15:44):
cool.
Would that be cool?
Hormones each year we can havea different part, not so sure.
Okay, we're gonna fight for it.
Yeah, but cervical crips arewhat produce the cervical mucus
and, again, that's keyed in fromour follicle, our mature
follicle.
So I love cervical fluid,cervical mucus so much and
without it we could not getpregnant.
(16:06):
But after we ovulate, like Isaid, the corpus luteum, it
produces a hormone calledprogesterone.
So you look at that postcardand again, dominant hormone
estrogen before ovulation.
Dominant hormone afterovulation is progesterone.
Progesterone causes a verydrying effect.
So when you go to the bathroom,no longer are you seeing the
(16:31):
cervical fluid.
It's dry.
Okay, this is very high level.
I invite you to be looking forpeople who might be able to walk
with you in understanding yourfertility cycle.
But again, this whole thinghappens for the main event, for
ovulation.
Most women know when they bleedbecause their period is red.
Most women don't know when theyovulate because they don't know
what to look for.
But I'm going to give you alittle trick.
When you go to the bathroom,just this seems maybe a little
(16:54):
strange.
I think it's a genius idea, ahormone genius idea, if I may
say so myself.
But close your eyes when youwipe after the bathroom.
Future husbands of America,don't cover your ears.
I mean, it's coming.
You'll learn about it.
Now you're learning about it.
It won't be the end of thestory for you all, I guarantee
it.
Ask yourself the question whatdoes this feel like?
(17:16):
And what's interesting is if itfeels lubricative.
We know estrogen is high, jamiewhat the heck does lubricative
mean, lubricative is um,lubricative is slimy like egg
white.
Is that what you're saying?
Like if I were to crack open anegg white on my counters and
wiped it with the Kleenex, thatwould be lubricative.
(17:37):
Yeah, slippery, super slippery,super like gushy.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Jamie, do we want to tell people and this has to do
with men like, why, why, whycervical mucus?
Like why do we have to talkabout it?
Do we want to tell people why?
Because this actually willbring in men, and it's super
important for men to understandthis.
There are three mainingredients to create a human
life, and this is why cervicalfluid, or mucus, is going to be
(18:03):
important.
It takes an egg that comes froma woman and it takes something
else that comes from a man,right, these little things that
are called sperm.
Now, listen up, men, sperm,that's what do they do?
What do they do?
They swim, right, and can youswim in a pool with no water?
No, so in order to actuallycreate a human being, we have to
(18:37):
have water in order for spermto get to an egg, up into the
female body.
So cervical mucus isessentially essential for life,
and we call this the window offertility.
And actually, a woman can onlyget pregnant in a six-day period
every menstrual cycle, theentire menstrual cycle.
Our fertile window is prettyshort.
There is only one egg that isreleased in a cycle and it only
lives for 12 to 24 hours.
(18:58):
A woman can only becomepregnant in that fertile window,
and it is all defined by thisfluid that allows for conception
to occur.
So, men, it's very importantfor you to understand this as
well.
And then you have this greathormone called testosterone.
Right, and testosterone is whatmakes you powerful, but
(19:19):
actually women make it too, andwhen women ov, our testosterone
levels go up.
And guess what?
The way God made us is that menand women become attracted to
each other when a woman can makea baby.
So women if you've not noticedthis already in terms of drive,
sex drive women will have sexdrive when they ovulate, but
(19:41):
many times after the egg hasbeen released you don't.
And it makes sense.
The way God made us is, oncethe egg is released, your chance
for ever conceiving a life ispassed, so you don't need to
have sex.
Like God designed us in thesevery unique ways and it's also
something important to remembertoo.
So like we are Catholic here,right, and so we're trying to
(20:02):
live a chaste life.
So if you have, and so we'retrying to live a chaste life, so
if you have a boyfriend andyou're trying to wait, let's say
, till marriage, till you enterinto a sexual relationship, then
it's probably not a good ideato watch a movie in the basement
when you're ovulating.
So that's just a littlerelationship advice.
In fact, we were talking to aguy at at Seek and he told us
(20:25):
that that information was veryvaluable to him To understand
his girlfriend's cycle was sopowerful, and he learned that
information from listening toour podcast.
We have a podcast with a guynamed Dave and it's called what
is it called?
Jamie Like this informationthat every guy should listen to
this podcast and it really didhelp him and every guy should
(20:47):
listen to that podcast with Daveon the Hormone Genius.
Because that information, guys,you really need to understand a
woman's cycle to be inrelationship with her, and it's
actually really helpful to youbecause if you want to make a
woman happy, there are certainthings you need to know about
premenstrual syndrome and a waya woman's body works so that you
(21:08):
can understand when maybe to doa certain thing and when not to
do a certain thing.
Right, jamie?
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So one story that I remember from you, teresa and
this is like an origin story foryou, kind of, in getting
started with all of this work isthis very thing that you're
saying just now.
So what's very interesting,ladies, is that because we just
went through our cycle, right,but our cycle is a vital sign of
health.
So Teresa mentioned PMS, right,mood issues and, honestly, the
(21:39):
guy we just mentioned, daveGetterman.
He talks about saving marriagesthrough NFP, because men can
come to know and learn aboutwhen a woman's mood may change
because of her hormonefluctuations, right?
So, teresa, something thatstuck out to me when we were
kind of getting going with ourpodcast here at the very
beginning of 2020 was how youcame to Napro technology and
(22:02):
this work through yourunderstanding that low
progesterone can cause PMS.
So let's kind of start diggingin to PMS with these ladies.
Do you guys want to hear aboutPMS?
Who wants to hear about PMS?
Who wants to know about how tohelp your PMS?
What boyfriends would wish forhelp for their girlfriends with
(22:23):
PMS, right, okay, so share yourstory, teresa.
I girlfriends with PMS, right,okay, so share your story,
teresa.
I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean it's kind of embarrassing because I
knew so little about my body asa young woman and I was in
graduate school.
I didn't know anything aboutovulation, nothing about
cervical mucus, and I waslearning about something called
Napro technology, which issomething I practice now.
I worked for the Pope Paul VIInstitute for years and I was
(22:49):
having all of these symptoms.
I was getting anxious at times.
There were times I felt likedown, almost depressed, but not
really, but I just felt down attimes.
At times I just got like thesebad headaches and then I also
got terrible sugar cravings andI just remember like I was in
clinicals to become a nursepractitioner and I would be
driving home from the clinicalsand I'd be like eating candy
(23:11):
bars and I just felt bad.
And I had my boyfriend at thetime, who is my now husband, dan
and he was like you know, youjust don't seem like you feel
really good.
And I was like, yeah, you'reright, I don't.
And so he's like maybe youshould go to a doctor Smart,
boyfriend, smart.
And so he's like, why don't wejust write down your symptoms?
(23:33):
And so I wrote down a list ofmy symptoms and I took it to my
primary care doctor and shelooked at me and she's like I
think you're just depressed.
And I was like, okay, but Iknew I wasn't depressed.
Like, I did feel depressed attimes, I felt down, but I didn't
feel depressed all the time.
And so she offered me anantidepressant and I was like I
(23:59):
don't know, I just don't thinkthat's what I need, so I didn't
take it.
And then I ended up right afterthat having a woman offer to
teach me how to chart my cycles.
And she was a nurse in theoffice that I learned about
napro technology and she's likeTeresa, do you know how to chart
?
And I was like no.
She's like, well, then, I'mgoing to teach you.
Her name was Rosemary, and soshe taught me how to chart every
(24:21):
time I would go to clinical.
She taught me how to chart andall of a sudden I started to
realize that my symptoms alignedwith the like seven to 10 days
before my period every month.
I just had really bad PMS and Icouldn't even recognize it.
And that's why we talk about thecycle as a vital sign, because
(24:41):
we know that in order for you asa human being I mean, this is
man or woman you need to knowthat, like, you can't connect
the symptoms of your body untilyou understand the science of
your body.
Like we believe that, like, ifyou can learn the science and
the hormones of your body whichthere are many that you can
(25:01):
actually learn to advocate foryour health, and that's what I
was able to do.
So, once I learned this was PMS, then I went to a doctor who
was trained in Napro technologyand they tested my hormones.
They tested my hormones oncertain days of my cycle and I
learned that I wasn't reallymaking any good hormones, which,
to me you know.
(25:22):
Now I'm like, oh yeah, I was ingraduate school, I was super
stressed out, I was not sleepingwell, I wasn't eating well, all
the things and I see this nowin my patients all the time and
so I was put on hormone therapyto help balance my hormones and
I felt so much better.
And so you have an opportunityto realize that, whatever the
condition that you areexperiencing again, some of you
(25:44):
have talked to us at SEEKalready Some of you have
irregular cycles, some of youhave polycystic ovarian syndrome
, and maybe you're on the pill,maybe that's the only thing you
were offered, maybe you weretold that in order to treat PCOS
you have to be on the pill.
I hear that all the time in myoffice.
But you don't have to be on thepill.
(26:04):
You can actually learn how tobalance your hormones naturally
and actually figure out what theunderlying root cause of your
woman's health issue is.
And that's what I do every dayin my practice is help women
find the underlying root causeof their woman's health
condition, and there are peopleall over the country and all
(26:27):
over the world that are trained,just like me, and if you listen
to our podcast, we interview alot of those doctors and we try
to share how you can get intouch with those doctors too.
Amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So we hope you're getting the sense that your
cycle is more, really even, thanjust our reproduction.
You know, it's more than justwhen I'm fertile, when I'm
infertile.
It gives us information, evenabout our mood, our hormones,
when we have our bioidenticalhormones that are circulating
and we're honoring that flow, nopun intended, the flow of our
(26:57):
hormones.
It protects estrogen protectsour bone, our heart and our
muscles, and it's just sointeresting Our brain, our heart
and our bones is what I mean,but probably our muscles too.
What'd you think?
Estrogen causes muscle growth.
Yeah, so it's very interesting.
Women need to know this becausewe unknowingly alter this flow.
(27:19):
We unknowingly alter the flowand actually now we're going to
flow into our third cool thingabout why hormones are so
amazing is that we havesuperpowers attached to our
womanhood and we also havesuperpowers attached to manhood,
of course, but the superpowersI really want to explain to you
all are the superpowersassociated with estrogen and
(27:42):
progesterone.
So, again, this is a perfecttransition, teresa, because we
talked a little bit about healthand I'm sure many of you have
again PMS or endometriosis, pcos, mood swings, issues, and we're
going to be lingering aroundafter our podcast today for you
that just have questions thatyou haven't been able to find
answers, we are very happy tohelp you with that.
But many of you may not realizethat, again, our hormones
(28:06):
influence our being, our beingOne of my favorite things to
think about, especially with StJoan of Arc being the patron
saint of Sikh this year.
And again, I love thinkingabout how St Joan of Arc, she
slays dragons.
I'm like slaying dragons andbalancing hormones.
That's the Hormone Geniuspodcast, right?
Not only are we you knowhormones are so cool, but
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understanding how to balancethese hormones do affect, again
beyond just reproduction.
Some examples so, as Teresamentioned earlier, every cycle
starts with day one of ourperiod.
It means that we did not getpregnant from the cycle before.
Our hormones are at an all-timelow right and so typically,
we're experiencing our period.
We may feel a littleuncomfortable, some of us more
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uncomfortable than others, andit's a great time to just rest.
But did you know that duringyour period, a time that we all
kind of loathe, it seems like?
I encourage you to no longerloathe your period, but to see
it as a favor to you in terms ofwhat comes with this time.
It's a great time to discernand to reflect, because your
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hormones are an all-time low.
Women tend to just be more evenkeel.
So I know for me, if I'mdiscerning, maybe to start a new
project, or many of you guysmay be discerning a new job,
some of you may be discerningmarriage moving, something like
that.
This is a great time to journaland to reflect and to really
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ask God to accompany you in thisquiet space.
So that's your hormonesuperpower during your period is
that, again, you can reflectand journal, really leverage
this time.
But then as that follicle isdeveloping and estrogen is
starting to produce, estrogen tome is like coffee.
You know, in the morning youdrink a cup of coffee and you
(30:00):
become more like, awake andenergized, and then you drink
cup number two.
None of us drink two cups ofcoffee a day, right?
None of us.
We stop at a cup and we're done, right, just joking.
So as estrogen is increasing,it's kind of like drinking more
and more cups of coffee in termsof this analogy.
So as estrogen increases andit's starting to reach toward
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that ovulation time, as women,estrogen is fuel for our
feminine engine.
We become more creative.
When we have increasingestrogen, we're more energized.
Did you know that?
If you were to look at theperson next to you.
Just look at the person next toyou.
Women.
Women and men, you can too, butwomen looking at the person
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next to you and even throughoutthe course of the rest of this
conference.
If you are near ovulation, youhave a higher ability to read
facial expressions and tounderstand what those facial
expressions mean.
Hello, how cool is that?
Estrogen is so incredible.
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There's an estrogen genius tothat phase of approaching
ovulation.
We're more fertile than againjust our fertility.
We're fertile in the mind,we're creative, we're able again
to kind of sense situations,among others.
So, as again we're reachingtoward ovulation, our estrogen
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is increasing.
A great time again to get infront of a room and do public
speaking or to present or tocome up with your great idea,
okay.
And then, after ovulation,progesterone is your dominant
hormone.
Progesterone is really.
It stands for progestate.
Your body is preparing forgestation, even if conception
did not take place.
Conception means sperm plus egg, thatation.
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Even if conception did not takeplace, conception means sperm
plus egg.
That's conception.
If conception did not takeplace during ovulation, your
body's still producingprogesterone, because you need
progesterone, ample amounts ofprogesterone, to sustain a baby
if you did achieve pregnancy.
If you did not achievepregnancy, then a couple weeks
later you get your period, butduring progesterone,
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progesterone has its own geniustoo.
So progesterone is kind ofsedating.
We are more calm and we're morefocused and detail-oriented.
That's what a healthy dose ofprogesterone looks like.
So it's really incrediblebecause, women, we can really
leverage our cycle for ourproductivity, for our creativity
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in our relationships.
In terms of relationships whenyour estrogen is high before
ovulation, when you're thatcreative and that like again
fuel for the feminine engine, Ilove saying that you're also
very attracted, obviously, tothe opposite sex, just like you
were mentioning earlier, teresa,saying you know, you, your
libido is much higher duringthat estrogen genius phase right
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before ovulation.
So if you're married, just knowthat that's really important
and we want to again see thatmasculine man that's very
attracted to us.
But after ovulation, we want tosee the husbands bopping the
kids on the knee, you know, oreven boyfriends, have you guys?
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If you guys have a boyfriendlike past, present and into the
future you will likely noticethat you're very attracted to
your boyfriend or spouse indifferent ways throughout the
course of a month.
Have you ever seen yourboyfriend bop a kid on the knee
or like play ball or laugh andbe kind of fun with little kids.
Do you guys know what I'mtalking about?
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Ladies, well, we can find thatendearing no matter where we're
at in our cycle, but weespecially like it after
ovulation because our body'spreparing for gestation right.
Our body does this every monthand what does that mean?
We want somebody that we knowcan protect us and a family.
That's why we're more attractedto our boyfriends and husbands
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when they're in the family.
So in the episode with Dave, aswe mentioned earlier, if the men
in this room are wondering man,how can I show my girlfriend or
wife love in this, likepost-ovulatory time?
Literally, just find a friendof kids and be like, hey, can we
babysit?
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Literally, that's all you needto do, you know.
So the cycle gives us so muchinformation and it's not just
for women, like we talk about.
It's really.
It's so important for men toknow this too, because I didn't
realize really until talkingwith you know, dave in
particular, but other men whoare passionate about this how
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hurtful it is to men when theirwives are saying no to intimacy
during certain times of thecycle.
It's very, it can be veryhurtful, but if they just really
understood that our desires andthe way we find them attractive
changes.
It just soothes so much.
It soothes so much.
So that's the third cool thing.
(34:58):
Do you have anything else youwant to add about hormone
superpowers?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, I mean when you're saying that, jamie, I
like to say that libido isattached to procreative power,
libido is attached toprocreative power, libido is
attached to procreative power,and so this again goes to the
complementarity of men and women.
So, again, men are fertileevery day of their life, from
the age of about 12 untilthey're buried in the ground.
So their libido is justdifferent because they're
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procreative every single day.
Women are procreative in anevent, a one-time event, each
menstrual cycle, and so if acouple doesn't know that, there
can be a lot of like tension andlack of communication.
So this is truly likelife-changing for relationships
to understand a menstrual cycleand to understand the way it
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affects a woman's body and howwe can live in relationship
together.
I want to tell you a storyabout a patient that I saw
recently.
This patient, she was in her30s and she had had previous
children with a previousrelationship, but then she found
kind of like you could say, hertrue love, and her true love in
her got married, but she hadthese two children and she love
in her got married, but she hadthese two children and she was
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in her 30s and she didn't reallythink that she wanted any more
children.
So they had made a decision notto have more children.
Now here's the kicker she hadbeen on birth control since she
was about 16 years old.
She had been on birth controlpills since she was about 16
years old, unless until shewanted to have those two
children.
That she did already.
But she listened to the HormoneGenius podcast and learned
(36:32):
about how synthetic hormoneskind of disrupt your natural
hormones, and so she made thisdecision that she wanted to go
all natural, and so she came offof the birth control pill and
all of a sudden she realized shewas attracted to her husband
for the first time.
Now, women don't know this, butthink about it.
What does birth control pillsdo?
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They suppress the main event.
They are meant to suppress themain event of the cycle.
So, of course, if you suppressthe main event and I just told
you that the main event isattached to your libido directly
you are going to suppress sexdrive, and that's why one of the
main side effects of birthcontrol pills is lack of libido.
(37:13):
And women don't even know thisbecause they don't understand
their bodies going into takingthese medicines right.
So first of all, sheunderstands.
All of a sudden she's like, wow, like I'm attracted to my
husband in a way I've never beenattracted to before, and then
all of a sudden she starts tonotice that she desires another
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child.
Think about this, guys Againhormones.
We discovered this word in 1904.
And by 1955, we've developed asynthetic pill to completely
suppress the maternal desirethat we have, the inmost
identity we have as women, thedesire in the deepest parts of
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our human heart to be creative,to be creative, to be a mother,
whether it be biological orspiritual.
But we suppress that by usingthese synthetic hormones, and
women aren't even aware of it.
This is not the first patientI've had that when they come off
birth control pills, all of asudden they're like looking at a
baby for the first time andthey're like I think I want one
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of those.
Can you imagine?
We've got millions and millionsof women who don't realize that
they're suppressing theirdesire to have children by being
on birth control.
So the good news is thisbeautiful woman who's now
married to the love of her life.
She now wants to have a babywith her husband, and so I'm
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going to help her do that.
But that's just one story Idon't think you know.
Birth control is often mentionedas like one of the greatest
inventions, you could say, ofthe 20th century.
Right, it's changed, like theway women have been able to
climb up the ladder of society.
It's changed culture directly,and so we don't question
sometimes really what it's doingto our hormones, to our body,
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to who we are as women.
You know, jamie and I weretalking.
This whole conference is kindof like a question, right, how
many of you have been in a talkwhere they said, like do you
know your identity?
Do you know your identity inChrist?
Do you know your identity as awoman or a daughter of God?
Do you know your identity inyour own hormones?
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Well, jamie and I are convincedthat learning about the science
of your body is deeplyconnected to who you are as made
in the image and likeness ofGod.
In fact, we believe that if youknow your body and you know
your hormones, you will actuallyunderstand who you are in your
feminine genius in a way thatyou have never understood it
(39:45):
before.
You can do this.
And I believe that men too, intheir male genius, like do you
guys realize that men'stestosterone levels have
declined over 50% since the 1980?
Fact why?
Why are men out there notfeeling motivated.
(40:20):
Why are men losing their desireto be powerful, strong,
purpose-driven life?
Well, it may be because theirhormones are not the same as
they were in 1980.
That's crazy to me.
So, guys, we all need to careabout hormones.
And, men, we can take controlof this in terms of you being
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healthy too.
In fact, one thing that youcould do today is you could make
sure that you have good andadequate vitamin D.
Vitamin D is a precursor tomaking testosterone.
In fact, it's considered apre-hormone.
So, all of you men out there,if you don't know what your
vitamin D level is, you couldask a doctor to run that test
for you.
But I assure you that if youjust go out and buy a supplement
(41:05):
of vitamin D3 2000 I use andyou take that daily, you will
have actually bettertestosterone.
And actually taking zinc oreating nuts like Brazil nuts,
which have a good amount of zinc, is also super good for your
testosterone too.
And, by the way, if you justactually sleep at night, if you
just actually get eight hours ofsleep, men, you will make
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better testosterone too.
All of us need to care abouthormones, because hormones are
life.
Hormones affect everyinteraction in our body, from
our sex hormones progesterone,estrogen, testosterone from our
thyroid to our adrenal hormones,like cortisol and adrenaline,
to our pancreas, like insulin.
(41:47):
Our hormones literally aremaking messages like trillions
of times a day.
We all need to care about howimportant this is to our health
and you, as women, have thepower now, becoming a genius of
your own hormones, to advocatein your doctor's offices that
you don't want necessarily tosettle for birth control pills
(42:10):
for whatever problem that youhave.
That you can say to your doctor.
You know what?
I would actually like sometests to know what the
underlying problem that I haveis and I'd actually like to find
the solution to that problem.
You have the power now toadvocate for yourself and if
your doctor doesn't listen toyou or makes you feel dumb for
wanting a hormone test, then youwalk straight out of that
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doctor's office and you go to adifferent doctor Because I'm
telling you they do notunderstand this.
They were not trained in medicalschool.
They don't know about cervicalmucus.
I promise you, doctors withthat degree, md, do not know
about cervical mucus.
It is a travesty.
Md do not know about cervicalmucus.
(42:53):
It is a travesty.
We are in a great enlightenmentin terms of what we know about
the woman's body, and all of usnow can make a difference.
Each one of you, becoming ahormone genius, can actually
tell a friend.
You can actually share thehappy girl with a friend.
This is so important.
It's important to everything,isn't it?
(43:13):
Jamie?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Super, duper, duper important.
And something I just keepthinking about too is just how
impactful, again, being hormoneaware is.
So being hormone awaretransforms us.
It really does.
It's this idea that when we'regiven information that we
haven't been given before, alight bulb clicks on.
It really does.
How many of you guys had alight bulb moment with hormones
(43:38):
Right?
So many of us have thesemoments where literally it
changes our life and I have acouple of stories I want to
share about that.
So it's very interesting.
So, as many of you probably knowor soon will know, when you
prepare for marriage, often thepriest requires that you do some
(44:00):
form of NFP natural familyplanning.
Okay, natural family planningand tracking your cycle, that
kind of all goes together.
So, because the church, theCatholic church, does not see
contraception as an ethical andmoral way to plan a family.
So natural family planning isthe natural way to avoid a
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pregnancy, if that is the wish,and also to time pregnancy.
So a gal and her fiance she wason the pill and they were
living together and just like somany other couples before they
waltzed into you know, thepresentation space and there I
was just going away talking allabout how awesome the cycle is
(44:41):
and our awesome cervical mucusand our estrogen and
progesterone.
And I did my spiel, just likeI've done a million times before
, and again I couldn't.
I didn't notice anythingdifferent about them.
They just kind of fell intostep with so many others that
only come because they'rerequired by the priest.
But what was interesting aboutthis couple is they left.
(45:02):
But three months later shecalled me and I didn't know who
she was right away.
I couldn't even remember hername.
But she told me she could notstop thinking about what she
learned about her hormones.
And it was interesting becausein that time she stopped taking
birth control and she asked tomeet with me and her fiance to
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talk a little bit more aboutwhat it could look like to
actually chart her cycle.
So when they started chartingtheir cycle, they started to
understand the dignity of ourhormones and the dignity of our
fertility cycle and how awesomethe Lord made our body.
The Lord loves us so much, likehe gives us a way to plan our
family and when we have a childthat maybe we didn't plan, we
(45:48):
know.
We know all life is given to usby the Lord.
He loves us so much.
He gives us this beautiful map.
Okay, so she is coming to learnthis with her fiance and I just
asked the question what wouldhappen to your relationship if
you didn't have sex until thewedding night?
And they just kind of stopped.
(46:09):
And I looked at both of themBecause, again, initially, when
they came into this introsession for the Creighton Method
that's what's called the introsession she again was totally
turned off to the idea.
I thought it was weird andwould never even consider
something like that.
But they discerned it and theydecided that they were no longer
(46:30):
going to have sex until thewedding night.
So they waited for theirwedding night.
Later she became a fertilitycare practitioner, converted to
the Catholic faith, directed awomen's health care center that
does not prescribe birth control, all because her priest
required that her and her fiancewould come to an introductory
(46:53):
session.
The lights clicked on for her.
What did I do?
What did Jamie say?
What did Jamie do?
I just told him the truth.
I just told him the truth.
It's not my invention, it's notTeresa's invention.
We're the Lord's invention.
And when we are exposed totruth, our soul recognizes it.
(47:15):
Our soul recognizes truth notjust with hormones, with
anything.
Our heart burns, you know, onthe road to Emmaus, when you
know they're talking about ohJesus, and the heart burns when
Jesus was with him because theynoticed the truth of who that
was.
They just couldn't name it.
So we know truth, we feel itand it transforms lives.
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You know, like there's lots ofthings out there.
There's, you know, gut healthand lifestyle and healthy eating
and taking care of our body andgetting enough sleep and all
that's staying hydrated.
All that's very, very important.
But the reason Teresa and I areso passionate about this is
because our hormones again, maleand female, we both have
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hormones.
But these reproductive hormones, the hormones that help us
produce life, co-create lifewith God, it changes the eternal
cosmos forever the moment thata soul enters this world.
It changes the eternal cosmosforever.
The moment that a soul entersthis world, our whole eternity
is changed forever.
That moment it's important.
The creative process of ourhormone endocrine reproductive
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system is, in my mind, one ofthe most spiritual systems in
our body, 100%, because it hasthe capacity to co -create with
the Lord.
That's why we make such a bigdeal about it.
We love healthy living tips, welove talking about gut health.
We love that.
That's fun.
That is fun.
(48:44):
But in terms of the spiritual,faith-filled pull we have, it's
really tied to our God-givenimage, because our hormones
mirror the fabric of ourfeminine soul.
Our hormones mirror the fabricof our feminine soul, feminine
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genius.
Women and men are different,right?
Women, if we hear a baby inthis room, we're going to be
like where's the baby?
Like ding, like stick thefinger up, kind of checking for,
like wind or rain.
That's what we do with our earsand our heart.
We're like where's the baby?
The baby's crying, we're payingattention to it.
If our friend is crying to us,we mom our friend.
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We're not their mom, but we momthem and we're not going to
stop momming anyone, whether wehave actual biological children
or not.
So there's a maternity withinour feminine genius, a maternity
within our feminine genius.
But that makes sense, right,because our hormones and our
estrogen and our progesterone,all of this goes together to
produce life, to make usmaternal physically.
(49:51):
But it mirrors the soul, oursoul, the maternal beautiful
gift of our soul.
Secondly, with our femininegenius is we're receptive.
We receive the other.
You know someone's having ahard time.
We receive them.
We hug them, we sense them, wefeel them.
But we also receive ourhusbands.
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Our egg receives the sperm.
So our hormones really mirrorour feminine genius, the fabric
of our feminine soul.
It's so beautiful.
We're generous, the way ourbody's made.
We have breasts, we feed ourbabies, but we also feel that
pull to give to the poor.
Again, not to say men don'tfeel that, but there's just this
(50:37):
beautiful way, this feminineway, that we have that capacity
to do that.
And, lastly, we're verysensitive.
You know, did you know thatthere are more nerve endings on
the female body?
I think there's 20 times morenerve endings on a female than
there is a man Interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
It's great when it comes to childbirth.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Oh dear goodness, yeah, oh dear goodness, yeah, oh
dear goodness.
So anyway, it's just abeautiful thing.
So that's the fourth reallycool thing about hormones, and
then we're going to kind ofstart wrapping up.
Fourth coolest thing is thathormone awareness can transform
us.
The fifth one is just tyingthis whole idea with Joan of Arc
and kind of coming to aconclusion that we can be the
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genius of our hormones and toreally set your hearts aflame
and to fight this kind of fight,this good fight.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah, I mean, I want to share a story and I'll let
Jamie kind of close up and Iwant to thank you all for being
here and again, if you stayaround, you're going to get a
free book.
So please line up and I'm happyto sign the book as well.
But this is you know, jamiesaid this the desire of the
sacredness of life.
This passion that we both havecomes from our hearts.
(51:41):
It really does, and both of usare very pro-life women.
We want to serve and we want tohelp.
Women believe that life issacred and I just want to share
a quick story with you.
On Christmas Eve this year, Igot to be in the delivery of a
child that was born of a motherwho had reversed her abortion.
Now, some of you have neverheard this before, but at my
(52:05):
clinic we do something calledabortion pill reversal.
There is a medication out thereand many of you may know that
is a set of pills that can betaken to cause an abortion, and
my clinic actually has aprotocol that's used all over
the country and all over theworld to reverse that process.
And this young woman sheactually started in Colorado but
she ended up in Nebraska and Iserved her because she desired
(52:28):
to reverse and to keep her baby.
Well, guess what?
On the day before Christmas EveI told her.
I said, listen, if you needsomeone to be in your labor and
delivery with you because shehad no friends, her boyfriend
wasn't supportive, her parentswere not supportive, and so I
said, if you need someone to bewith you during this birth, I
said, please call me, I willcome.
(52:51):
On the day before Christmas EveI got a text at seven in the
morning that her water had brokeand she wanted me to be there
with her.
So I went to the hospital andstayed with her all night and I
labored with her and I helpedher through the process of labor
and delivery and she ended upnot making progress and ended up
with a cesarean on ChristmasEve.
And I was there in the deliverywith her with a cesarean on
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Christmas Eve and I was there inthe delivery with her and she
had a beautiful little baby boy.
And she told me over and overagain.
She said, teresa.
She said, can you believe it?
She said can you believe it?
We were able to reverse thisLike, look at my baby, like he's
here.
I can't believe.
I didn't want this little boy.
So a lot of times again, in thisprocess of learning about our
(53:35):
bodies and learning about ourhormones, we realize the
sacredness of who we are.
As human beings, we connect tothat inmost feminine soul, the
masculinity of who we are.
And so to come full circle.
For me, I was so grateful.
The greatest Christmas presentI could have ever been given on
Christmas Eve is to hold thehand of a young woman who had
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first thought she had no supportfor her and her little baby and
thought that the only choicethat she had was an abortion,
but then to find that thatwasn't the last answer, that she
could reverse her abortion andthat we could hold her baby
together and praise God in that.
So that is my Christmas Eve isbeing there and being able to
(54:22):
hold this little life, and Jamieand I really believe that the
sacredness of life is soimportant.
So we do this because of ourpassionate pro-life views, but
we do this because we love thescience of hormones, teresa.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I want to tell you something quick, all of you.
What did we just notice aboutTeresa's story?
She was not this lady's doctor.
She wasn't the lady's mother orsister or doula.
She was a woman who saw theneed in another.
She was exercising her femininegenius, the maternity of her
feminine soul.
She's not her mom, she is a mom.
(54:57):
She's not her mom.
So I just wanted to point thatout to you.
That's amazing, teresa, that youlistened to it.
You could have said, oh my gosh, it's Christmas, I have eight
children.
You know this person has a need, but oh, that's kind of a
hassle.
But her heart was saying leaninto the feminine genius, lean
into it.
We all have a choice to say noto that and that definitely
(55:19):
connects again to our womanhood,to our hormones.
But I encourage all of youthroughout the rest of this SEEK
conference, if you see somebodybeing a feminine genius or a
hormone genius, call it out tothem.
Hey, I saw you helping that momwho was struggling with that
kid.
That's so cool.
You're such a cool femininegenius Like you're really
leaning into that.
Or if somebody is comfortinganother or hugging, really just
(55:42):
pay attention to that.
Where do you see the femininegenius in action and just know
that that reflects our hormonegenius.
And how incredible is that.
So cool, so cool.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
If any of you want to go into nursing, into the
medical profession, I'm happy toanswer questions about what
it's like to live in my world,like what it's like to try to
practice without ever usingbirth control pills.
So Jamie and I will hang around.
We'll be here in the morning.
We'll try to stay around theUniversity of St Thomas booth
and the Mac Studio booth in thatarea there.
We would invite you to cometalk to us.
(56:13):
We love speaking to you and so,again, if you stay after, we're
going to pass out the HappyGirls Guide to being Whole.
Also, jamie has the FiatInstitute that she started,
which is a hormone school whereshe teaches people to be hormone
coaches.
So if this speaks to your heart, you have a passion for wanting
to help others with theirhormones.
She has a program, acertification program, for
(56:34):
becoming a hormone coach.
She would love to speak to youabout that.
Again, look at the program forUniversity of St Thomas and the
gender studies, leah Jacobson,who is the founder of the
Guiding Star Project.
She's not over there, but shewill be over there tomorrow.
Please come talk to Leah.
She's an amazing woman.
She's done incredible thingswith the Guiding Star Project
(56:55):
and is now going to do anamazing thing with this gender
studies program, and then wehave this questionnaire that
hopefully all of you got a holdof.
If you would like to answerthat questionnaire, you get
entered into a drawing to win a$50 Amazon card.
We're going to give away threeof them, so your chances are
pretty good, so that really isawesome for us If you can answer
those questions.
We really want to thank you forbeing present here today and
(57:18):
taking the time to be with us,and thanks, jamie, for you being
here as well.
Thanks, teresa.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Thank you you.
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