Dr. Soum Rakshit: How Women Finally Achieved Orgasm & Pain-Free Sex | #142 - The Sex Reimagined Podcast

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Leah (00:05):
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And uh, hey, good morning, goodafternoon, good evening.
This is Leah Piper and Dr.
Willow Brown.
We're the host of the SexReimagined podcast.

Willow (00:27):
And we're exploring today how military grade
technology is a revolutionizingsexual health with Dr.
Soum Rakshit, who is theco-founder and CEO of mystery
vibe.
This is a medical grade, uh, sextoy company.
He's been working with doctorsaround the world to create these

(00:47):
devices that help people comeback to sexual health and
wholeness in ways they neverimagined.
This man used to be, um, abiomedical engineer and did all
this work with US DefenseCompany for years, and actually
walked away from that career andstepped into creating devices

(01:08):
that are unheard of on themarket.

Leah (01:11):
Yes.
So exciting.
So.
Tune in, turn on, and fall inlove with Dr.
Soum.

Announcer (01:16):
Welcome to the Sex Reimagined Podcast, where sex is
shame-free and pleasure forward.
Let's get into the show.

Willow (01:25):
Okay.

Leah (01:26):
Here we are.

Willow (01:27):
Yes.
And today we are going to havesuch a rich and juicy, deep
conversation with Dr.
Soum Rakshit, a doctor who hasrevolutionized, um, sexual play
tools.
And so the question is, what ifthe same technology used in
defense systems could transformyour sex life with Dr.

(01:48):
Rakshit today we're gonna talkabout how he left a lucrative
career to pioneer devices thathave helped over a hundred
thousand people overcomeintimate health challenges that
so many people are just tooembarrassed to even talk about.
So we're so excited that you'rehere, Dr.
Rakshit.
And you are the CEO and founderof Mystery Vibe.

(02:10):
Go ahead and tell us a littlebit about how you came to this.

Soum (02:16):
Thank, thank you so much for having me.
And, um, you know, we are veryexcited to say that it's now
200,000 users.
We've helped.

Willow (02:22):
200,000 at

Soum (02:23):
it's, it's, it's growing fast.
Um,

Willow (02:25):
Amazing.

Leah (02:26):
congrats.

Soum (02:27):
thank you.
Um, well I think the big piece,like you said, is bringing the
right amount of technology.
From various parts.
So we worked in defense beforeour work.
Um, this is, goes back 2004, wason biometrics.
So using cameras to look at Ieyes irises to recognize people.

(02:48):
So it was the same area ofbiomedical engineering, which is
what we do now.
But the application was verydifferent, is used in security
and national, uh, defense.
Um, and even back then.
We would work very closely withthe doctors, the
ophthalmologist, telling usexactly how the eye works, how
it's created, how it moves, andthen building the tech around it

(03:11):
to the, to make it, um, asecurity application.
So that's kind of how we gotstarted in Biomedical with
defense as the application.
And then we use the exact sametechnology, which, you know, the
components.
All of that that we used indefense.
Now working with urologists,gynecologists, um, pelvic floor

(03:33):
therapist, now telling us whatare the big problems with pelvic
pain, vaginal dryness, recaldysfunction, prostate pain, all
of these areas which are verycommon.
Um, but when we started 11 yearsago, uh, it was hard to even
explain.
do you mean by pelvic floor?
There just wasn't enoughawareness.

(03:54):
There wasn't enough, um,education even within the
medical community, outside theexperts say, uh, primary care
physician might not know thedetails of vaginal dryness after
menopause.
So, so I think, you know, we arevery lucky that over the 11
years society has moved on somuch that we don't have to
explain a lot of the thingsanymore.
Um, but when we started it wasboth using engineering to build

(04:19):
the stuff, but also.
Creating the education andawareness at the same time.

Leah (04:24):
I am curious, how are your products helping someone with
pelvic floor pain?

Soum (04:31):
So all our products are designed to be very malleable,
um, and mimic what the standardof care would be, so the
standard of care for pelvic flowtherapy is fingers.

Leah (04:42):
Mm-hmm.

Soum (04:42):
use their fingers, they insert them, reach their points,
press them, massage them.
So the crescendo device, whichis the PT device, is designed
with PT is telling us how theywould like something that the
patient can use at home, whichis the main purpose.
So it is not better than goingto a therapist.

(05:03):
It, the outcome is the same.

Leah (05:05):
Okay.

Soum (05:05):
The main difference is that you have access to the care
at home and ideally you'd havethe first session with a
therapist that explain exactlyhow you would use it and then
use it ideally three times aweek for 12 weeks.
Uh, which is the right amountfor therapy as well, and then go

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back three months later, um, foryour, um, hopefully the final
session in that, uh, settingwhere you are pain free.
So the product is very muchdesigned to mimic exactly what
you would get in therapy.
Be

Leah (05:41):
Oh,

Willow (05:41):
know, I was at a dinner party at Susan Bratton's and she
brought out a whole box ofmystery vibe

Leah (05:48):
is that right?

Willow (05:48):
yeah, we were playing with them and they are I don't,
the, the, the malleability andthe texture and the.
Softness, but the, but the, butthe structure and just, I mean,
they're really something else.
Like they're really superiorproducts.
So, um, you know,

Soum (06:07):
Thank you,

Willow (06:07):
that,

Soum (06:08):
and Susan is amazing.
She's been supporting us foryears.

Willow (06:12):
I know she,

Leah (06:13):
She is a great ally.
You want Susan Breton on yourside?
Let me tell you.
Yeah.

Willow (06:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm so curious, like what wasthe turning point?
Because you had a reallylucrative career in the, um, you
know, in the, like in the, inthe pre previous business.
What shifted, what kind ofturned your attention toward
sexual devices?

Leah (06:38):
Yeah.

Soum (06:39):
Yeah, that's, that's actually a really easy answer,
once we did our work inophthalmology and build this
camera systems, um, that gotacquired, uh, by a US uh,
California company, um, and thenwe were looking at what next do
we do?
How do we bring our biomedical,because all of us spend years in
biomedical already.
So I did a PhD and a postdoc,and I really wanted to apply

(07:01):
that, but in an area which wasbig, but not enough solutions.

Leah (07:06):
Mm-hmm.

Soum (07:07):
and we knew nothing about urology or gynecology, you know,
uh, doing our work inophthalmology.
So we went to NHS, which is theNational Health Service here in,
uh, London.
Um, and, uh, the head of NHS uh,clinical Entrepreneurship, he
himself is a urologist, and hesaid, you know, the big area
that we want people to beworking in is urology and

(07:28):
gynecology, because, uh, andthis goes back, you know, more
than, uh, like.
When did we first, maybe 13, 14years ago when we first had this
conversation.
And he said that there's just somuch, uh, so many issues don't
even get reported.
And this is obviously, you know,a while back.
Uh, but him as an expert knewhow big the problem is.

(07:49):
But public didn't.
Like, there was no awareness ofprostate cancer, which is one in
six men.
But often people would haveprostate cancer, not even know.
it was that bad back then, uh,with anything to do with sexual
health.
So, so it really is down tothat, we got told that this is

(08:09):
the big area that guys need tobuild stuff in and educate
people in because almosteveryone has some issue, you
know, or multiple issues, uh,many times in life.
So It's not something verycomplicated like, you know,
solving, um, a very complexcancer.
It's something that happens toeverybody, you know, as a matter
of life.

(08:29):
Whether it's, postal birth painor menopause or, E.D., it's just
like normal life.
It's nothing really, odd butthere just wasn't enough
solutions.
Whether it's tablet basedsolution, therapy based
solution, device based solution.
There just wasn't enoughsolutions.
So that was the, the driverbehind deciding to put in our

(08:51):
bio-med engineering expertiseinto Euro guide.

Willow (08:55):
You were just done with one thing and looking for the
next thing, and you were, and

Soum (09:00):
Yes, exactly.

Willow (09:00):
to find like, what, what is it

Soum (09:03):
I.

Willow (09:03):
needed in the market today?
That's so great.

Soum (09:07):
exactly.
Yeah.
And, and even today, uh, youknow, the main thing I would add
is when we build a device, it'svery much driven by clinicians
selling us what we should bebuilding.
You know, we, we don't have likea product roadmap saying, these
are the things we are going tobuild just because we feel like
building them.
So, yeah.

Willow (09:22):
And when you say clinicians, are you talking
about medical doctors primarilyor

Soum (09:27):
Yeah.
Uh, you know, therapists,

Willow (09:29):
physical therapists, people who do

Leah (09:31):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.

Soum (09:33):
Anyone in sexual health.
a very nice example is, uh,recently at a UA, the Urologist
Association Conference.
we met a, a doctor who said thebig issue for them is post penal
surgery rehabilitation.
So, after surgery, the patientswould need a special type of
bandage in order to compress thepenis and then, you know,
obviously have to take it off or

Leah (09:55):
What kind of surgery was this To the penis or just any
surgical.

Soum (10:00):
any penal surgery

Leah (10:01):
Okay.

Soum (10:01):
that would need rehabilitation.
Um, which is generally withcompression bandages, but it's
quite difficult, you know, itgets wet and then you have to
replace them.

Leah (10:10):
Right

Soum (10:10):
they, and, and you know, like a lot of our products just
starts with these conversations.
And they said, you know, can youguys figure out something?
A way to address this withoutusing bandages.
And um, and we researched for awhile and we figured out a way
would be using magnets.
So in

Leah (10:28):
magnets?

Soum (10:29):
Yeah, a, a very flexible medical silicone with magnets in
between, which can be wrappedaround the penis.
And the magnet would be like agroove to tighten,

Leah (10:39):
Okay.

Soum (10:40):
So it can be as compressive or as relaxed as you
need in

Leah (10:44):
Wow, that is so cool.

Soum (10:48):
reusable.
So, you know, like

Leah (10:50):
Okay.

Soum (10:51):
we do often are quite simple.
You know, it's not a complicatedthing.
Um, but driven by, uh, a realproblem that the clinicians and
the patients face right now, andthere isn't any easy solution.

Leah (11:06):
Yeah, if we can go back to the pelvic floor.
So I've got a, um, a student whohas just...
penetration, uh, penis vaginapenetration is just
excruciating.
It is so painful.
The pain is mostly, uh, in andaround entroitus.
She's worked with dilators,she's done some pelvic floor

(11:28):
therapeutic, um, interventions.
Things have improved a littlebit, but there's a sense of
hopelessness, right?
When you feel like you can'thave the type of sex your
friends are having that, thatyour partner really wants to
have.
It can feel so hopeless and sodiscouraging and i'm curious, so

(11:49):
first two questions.
One is, are a lot of yourproducts being sold to medical
professionals dealing withvarious issues that are more
medical related?
Are you also selling to thepublic for their own pleasure
and exploration?

Soum (12:03):
It's both.
So yes, you could get thedevices from your clinician, uh,
it's F-S-H-S-A, so you know, youcan use your F-S-H-S-A cards to
buy them, but equally you can goto our website or Walmart or
Amazon and buy the devices.
You don't need a prescription.
We are fully reimbursed byVeterans Affairs, so if you're a
veteran, you can get itcompletely free, of course,

Leah (12:25):
Wow.

Soum (12:25):
um, through your V.A.

Leah (12:26):
Yeah.

Soum (12:26):
primary care.
Uh, and the reason for that ispelvic pain is really big in
female veteran soldiers, anderectile dysfunction is very big
in male veteran soldiers.
So, so the things that we doapply, uh, which is why, um, we
are fully covered by them.
So it really depends on, youknow, your, um, circumstance,
whether you would buy it online

Leah (12:48):
Okay,

Soum (12:49):
a clinician or through another channel.

Leah (12:51):
it's, it's possible that your insurance could cover, uh,
the devices.

Soum (12:55):
only F-S-H-S-A.

Willow (12:57):
yeah,

Soum (12:57):
is partial.
So the reimbursement code iswhat we are currently working
on.
So we presented, uh, so pelvicpain as of yet isn't covered
from A DME, which is durablemedical equipment perspective.
However, it is covered from aCPT code, which means therapy is
covered.
Um, it depends

Leah (13:14):
Okay.

Soum (13:15):
where you go, but there are CPT codes for it.
So we have presented to CMS, um,in order to create a DME code.
Um, and even if we don't get aDME code, we should be able to
get a S code.
Um, what S code means is that itwould be covered by private
insurers, but not by Medicareand Medicaid.

Leah (13:33):
Okay.

Soum (13:33):
by the end of this year, we should have the S code.

Willow (13:36):
amazing.

Soum (13:37):
we started, uh, two years ago.
Yeah.

Leah (13:39):
Okay.

Willow (13:39):
revolution, revolutionary event in and of
itself for sexual devices.
For them to

Soum (13:44):
Yeah.
And, and it would apply toanything in pelvic pain.

Willow (13:46):
Even for FHSA for it to be covered by that is great.

Leah (13:49):
Yeah.

Soum (13:50):
took two years.

Leah (13:51):
was gonna say, I was gonna say that must have been a
process.
Um, I have a follow-up question,and you may or may not be able
to answer this.
Maybe a pelvic floor therapistwould be able to answer this
more, but I'm curious with thisparticular example, how would
your device work for that painthat resides, uh, right around

(14:12):
the enteritis or the vaginalopening?
Is there any way you can explainthat?
I was just looking at the deviceonline to kind of see its shape.

Soum (14:19):
so that's actually a different device.
Um, it's called a Legato andit's designed for people who
cannot insert anything at all.

Leah (14:29):
Okay.

Soum (14:29):
Um, so the device I was talking about earlier is
crescendo and it's

Leah (14:33):
Okay.

Soum (14:34):
mimic fingers going inside.

Leah (14:36):
Okay.

Soum (14:36):
we have another version called Malta, which is a single
finger going inside for peoplewho don't want two finger width.
However, um, for patients whocannot insert anything at all.
It's a completely different, um,modality where the device
legato, which looks like this,it sits at, on the labia and it
vibrates to create blood flowand arousal and lubrication.

(15:00):
Um, so the original reason whywe created it is based on
feedback from menopausespecialists creating something
that sits externally can to beused during intercourse.
Yeah.
So it's a very big opening

Leah (15:15):
Okay.

Willow (15:15):
does

Soum (15:16):
yeah.

Willow (15:16):
go through, does it pass through the intro at all or just
stimulate the vulva.

Soum (15:21):
It just stimulates the vulva and the, um, labia.
So it's purely like, um, oh.
You know, um,

Willow (15:28):
you would recommend for this, uh,

Soum (15:29):
so for someone who cannot insert anything,

Leah (15:32):
She, she can, she can be penetrated.
Um, is it possible that it wouldbe helpful to use both those
devices together?
Mm-hmm.

Soum (15:40):
Yeah.
Because the gap is so big.

Leah (15:42):
Yeah.
The one digit?
Yeah.
Yeah.

Soum (15:45):
tool.
Yeah.
It's literally index finger.
And again, that is, and this iswhat's so interesting about our
devices.
So typically we get told X, youknow, it's like one thing and we
build something for that, andthen it's used somewhere
completely different.
And,

Leah (16:00):
Of course, right?

Soum (16:01):
out much later,

Leah (16:03):
Mm-hmm.

Soum (16:03):
Years later we find out it's being used, you know, in a
big amount there.
So MAL is the perfect example ofthat.
It was designed.

Leah (16:13):
Malta.

Soum (16:13):
Yeah.
It was designed,

Leah (16:15):
Oh.

Soum (16:15):
uh, M-O-L-T-O, malto.
So it was designed to mimic, uh,the index finger in order to
reach the prostate, vibrate theprostate, and help with pain
relief.
Yeah.
And it's very common, liketypically go to a urologist and
they would insert the fingersliterally that there's nothing
special.
Yeah.
And then that, because it's soslim, um became really useful in

(16:40):
pelvic flow therapy for womenwho had, you know, never even
heard of our device for prostatecare.

Leah (16:47):
Right.
Right.

Willow (16:47):
Right.
Right.

Leah (16:49):
Wow.

Soum (16:50):
yeah.

Willow (16:51):
Now, I'm, I have a student example now.
So, um, so I've got a, a, a guywho has like, the, the point of
penetration is kind of when hegoes away, like he can't
experience his body anymore dueto a lot of, um, you know, more,
more pressure from society,performance anxiety, that kind

(17:12):
of things.
So I'm just curious.
I'm sure you have an amazingdevice that would Help his,
like, um, being able topenetrate without getting overly
excited and overly pressured inthat moment.
But I'm also curious if you'vefound, um, your, the use of your
devices to really help people intheir mind as well, to help them

(17:35):
get over limiting beliefs,societal constructs, things that
really block us from havingbetter sex.

Leah (17:43):
I, can I ask a distinction in your question?
Willow?
Are you saying that he goes awayat the point of penetrating
someone or being penetratedhimself?

Willow (17:53):
Penetrating someone.

Leah (17:54):
Got it.

Soum (17:56):
And, and do you mean?
Um, he has erection, uh,erectile dysfunction as a result
of psychogenic.

Willow (18:03):
Uh, he, he, I wouldn't say he has more just like, um,
you know, feeling like perf likehe needs to perform, like he
needs to do it, right?
Like he has, he's got thispressure.
And so then at the point ofpenetration, if there hasn't
been enough buildup for him atthat point of penetration, he,

(18:24):
um,

Leah (18:24):
Dissociates.

Willow (18:25):
He kind of like, you know, he just gets too excited.
He just gets

Leah (18:29):
Does that mean he ejaculates or like.

Willow (18:32):
I would say probably sometimes, like, probably
there's a, um, a, a prematureejaculation thing going on at
some times, but I think that,that it's, it's sort of just is
causing this anxiety aboutpenetrating at all.

Leah (18:47):
Yeah.
Does it like ruin sex for himwhere he is just like now he is
just in his head?

Soum (18:52):
That that is.
Um, so interestingly, uh, andkind of all of this falls under
the psychogenic, um, side of,uh, male sexual dysfunction.
Uh, where physiologicallyeverything is fine, you know,
arteries, blood flow, uh,muscles, et cetera.
Um, and it's, um, in the mind.
Um, and sadly 40%, which is thebiggest segment, um, of Ed

(19:13):
specifically is psychogenic.
But, premature ejaculation isalso a massive issue, um, as
well, especially amongst youngermen, which ironically becomes a
different issue later

Leah (19:24):
I know, isn't that?
Yeah.
Geez.
Yeah.
Right.

Soum (19:29):
As you get older, it gets harder and harder to ejaculate,
uh, um, whereas early on it'sthe reverse problem.
Um, so the work we do, and thereason I brought it up is all on
the delayed side.
Um, and there is actually reallygood company, um, on premature
ejaculation called my Mihixeland what they do.

Willow (19:49):
it called?

Soum (19:50):
Mihixel

Leah (19:51):
Can you spell that?

Soum (19:52):
I think it's M-I-H-I-X-E-L.

Willow (19:56):
Okay.

Soum (19:56):
Also a med device um, but what they do is training, so
they have a device and a, uh,you know, like a sleeve, right?
it has like compression andstuff and there's an app and it
tells you when to stop and thentrain yourself so you don't
ejaculate, and then do a bitmore and then stop, you know,

(20:18):
like it's a

Leah (20:19):
Okay.
It, uh, monitors your, yourresponse and so helps you delay
your ejaculation by giving youpresence to stop all friction.

Willow (20:28):
And if,

Soum (20:29):
Exactly.

Willow (20:30):
heard of a penis sleeve before, it's kind of like a, a
big rubber

Leah (20:34):
You talking about a, oh, you're not talking about like a
pocket pussy,

Willow (20:37):
No, we're talking about a penis sleeve.

Leah (20:41):
a penis sleeve,

Willow (20:42):
it's kind of thick generally, and it kind of

Soum (20:45):
yeah,

Willow (20:46):
would, it, would it create more girth if you were
having sex with a penis sleeve?
There would be more

Soum (20:51):
yeah.

Willow (20:52):
girth around that penis

Leah (20:53):
so.

Willow (20:54):
So this device, it

Soum (20:55):
No, this device is really big.
Like you, it's just to train.

Leah (20:58):
Yeah, but it, it's for, it's self pleasure.
Obviously you wouldn't use thiswith a partner when the stakes
are really high.
Yeah,

Soum (21:04):
very much a, it's, it's very much like a training device
you use and you learn to controlyour

Leah (21:11):
yeah,

Soum (21:12):
three months, six

Leah (21:13):
sure.

Willow (21:14):
cool.

Soum (21:15):
Uh, and then, you know, hopefully you've already got to
the point where you can controlyour ejaculation and

Leah (21:20):
Yeah.

Soum (21:20):
you don't need the device and you know, you,

Leah (21:22):
That's, that's great.
So it's measuring basically soyou have a more felt sense
awareness of where your"I couldcome soon" triggers are, those
sensations, that mindfulness, sothat you can track that when the
stakes are high and you might bewith a partner.
Okay.

Soum (21:40):
Yeah.

Willow (21:40):
to

Leah (21:41):
Yeah.

Soum (21:41):
The other thing I would add to that, um, you know, the,
uh, patient you mentioned is, ifthey use, penile constriction
ring.

Willow (21:50):
Yeah.

Soum (21:50):
Uh, as long as it's the right size, it's comfortable,
then even if they ejaculate,they can maintain direction and,

Leah (21:59):
Mm.

Soum (22:00):
and have intercourse.
Uh, which is a, you know, bigpart of say using a vacuum pump,
uh, which is a really commondevice for ed.
It's using a vacuum pump to geterect,

Leah (22:12):
Are you talking about a penis pump?

Soum (22:14):
Yes.
Correct.

Leah (22:14):
And when you say ring, are you talking about a cock ring?

Soum (22:17):
Uh, yes, but you could get them very specifically, which
have, let's say a bit in thebottom to allow for ejaculation,
not just a simple circle,

Willow (22:27):
Not a

Soum (22:28):
the, the, the challenge with using a circle is it
constricts the blood and thesemen.

Leah (22:33):
Okay.

Willow (22:34):
learned about

Soum (22:34):
rings.

Willow (22:35):
incredible coch rings that, um, what was that doctor's
name?

Leah (22:39):
Dr.
Justin.
Yeah.

Soum (22:41):
Elliot has a really good one.
Uh, it's called Firm Tech.

Leah (22:44):
yeah, yeah,

Soum (22:46):
exactly.

Willow (22:47):
monitors, like when you're sleeping, it monitors

Soum (22:50):
Correct.

Willow (22:51):
um,

Soum (22:51):
Nocturnal

Leah (22:53):
yeah.
Your nocturnal erections.

Willow (22:55):
like that for, for

Leah (22:57):
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Do you have any cock rings thatare specifically sized or have a
unique design?

Soum (23:02):
So the device we make, uh, specifically for erections is
tenuto.
Uh, it has two sizes, uh,tenuto, the large one and the
small one.
Um, and what that does is itsolves the issue of having two
separate devices.
One, to get erect like a vacuum,penis pump.
And two, to hold the erectionusing a ring.

(23:24):
So this does is vibrates on thepenis, glans the head

Leah (23:29):
Okay.

Soum (23:30):
the arousal and the blood flow, and then you stretch it,
bring it back and place it atthe base to constrict the penis
bloods in the penis and have agap in the bottom for
ejaculation.
And then the big version alsohas a separate perineum
stimulator to continue thatarousal the blood flow to the

(23:51):
penis.
So what that does is address eDissues, which are blood flow
related.
Um, I mean, the problem isthat's all we can do.
What we cannot solve, and youneed definitely, uh, is the
world's first wearable device.
for is when it's psychogenic,um, we can still physiologically
help with blood flow.

(24:11):
Um, so we have a publication onthat helping psychogenic ed
patients get erect again,because it just does a very
physical activity of pushing theblood in.
Um, but we would still say theunderlying reasons need to be
addressed as to why sayperformance anxiety, stress is
affecting erection andejaculation.

Leah (24:34):
Do you have any solutions that you're working with now
that are, uh, pertaining to menof a difficult time reaching
climax?

Willow (24:44):
Like they just

Leah (24:45):
can't get over the hill and their partner's like, would
you cum already and

Soum (24:51):
yeah.
Yes, exactly.
So we just recently published apaper, um, which is the first
paper of its kind, uh, which I'mso excited about it.
Um, using prostate stimulationto overcome an ejaculation.
I.
And delayed.
So

Willow (25:07):
able to

Soum (25:08):
being, yes.
So, um, uh, so the multi deviceYep.
Um, which originally wasdesigned for

Leah (25:16):
The pro okay to the prostate pain management for
prostate pain.

Soum (25:21):
And no one had ever done a study linking prostate
simulation to ejaculation.

Leah (25:26):
That's great.

Soum (25:27):
it was the first time ever.
No.
The reason is there wasn't anydevice to do it with.
It's not that the, the, uh,urologist

Willow (25:34):
this

Soum (25:34):
knew.
But that's, that's the problem,is you cannot really run a study

Willow (25:39):
can't,

Soum (25:40):
with, you know, where you have to constantly go to
somebody to do because you can'tphysically reach your own
prostate.
And that was the big issue,right?
So, and, and this is notsomebody with any prostate
issues, so you would not reallydo that.
Um, but the theory was alwaysthere that because the prostate
creates semen, stimulating itshould lead to ejaculation.

(26:01):
And that theory is very obvious,but no one had ever done a study
because there was nothing tostudy with.
Yeah.
So, so that,

Willow (26:11):
the MAL two.

Soum (26:11):
yeah.
So the study got published, uh,last month, um,

Willow (26:16):
cool.
So

Soum (26:16):
proves that,

Willow (26:17):
about this study.

Leah (26:18):
Yeah, well, tell us the findings.

Soum (26:20):
Uh, it, it, it's a very early study in the sense that I
think it was, um, 20 25patients, um, all with either
delayed or an ejaculationproblems, and then they used
Molto, it depends on thepatient.
I think most of them were 10minutes per session for, um, I
think three months.
Um, and, and, and they had asignificant, and there is a, uh,

(26:42):
score to measure and they had asignificant improvement in their
ejaculation, both from delayedto Ann.
Um, and then that got acceptedand published in the Journal of
Sexual Medicine.
So that was really exciting.
Yeah.

Leah (26:56):
So, um, let me walk me through that process.
So, in the study, are men havingsex with the toy inside of them
to help with that ejaculatoryresponse, or is it self pleasure
and then working with, butthey're, they are actively, um,

(27:16):
stroking their penis whilehaving this prostate
stimulation.

Soum (27:21):
correct.
Yes.
And the uh, and, and this cohortof patients didn't have other is
issues like ed.
So their only issue in order tokeep the study simple,

Leah (27:30):
Yeah.

Soum (27:31):
only issue was to do with ejaculation.
They didn't have other sexualdysfunctions at the same time.
So very much the application ofprocess simulation and stroking
would then lead to a differentoutcome from just stroking
without any stimulation.

Leah (27:48):
And, um, it's a vibrator.

Soum (27:50):
Yes, it is a vibrator

Leah (27:51):
Okay.

Soum (27:51):
so, and it's very bendy.
It's like a finger, but itadapts to the rectum and reaches

Leah (27:56):
Yeah, and I noticed it has a very large, um, uh, Base.
So therefore, if they're notholding it in, it'll stay in by
itself.

Soum (28:06):
it will stay in and more importantly for safeties, it
won't get sucked in.

Leah (28:11):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Soum (28:12):
Yeah.

Leah (28:13):
All right.
Well, cool.
I look forward to recommendingthat to some people I know who
are really struggling it withit.
In particular, I have onestudent who shared
confidentiality wise that he washaving a hard time reaching
climax with his wife.
I.
In his other side relationships,he wasn't having any problem
reaching climax.

(28:33):
And I think that more has to dowith, um, the excitement of a
new partner and probably thelevels of hormones are going up
with somebody who's new versussomeone you've been married to
for a long time.
Yeah.

Soum (28:44):
definitely.

Leah (28:45):
Okay.
Very interesting.

Willow (28:47):
I wanna kind of roll, roll back to, um, you know, you
used to work in defense creatinglike military defense devices.
So you're, you're an engineer atheart, so you've, how, how, like
what were you creating?
Were you creating guns?
Were you creating explosives?
What were you

Soum (29:06):
N nothing, nothing complicated.

Willow (29:09):
that Yeah,

Soum (29:10):
No, this is, this is so long back.
Drones didn't even exist.
Uh, I'm talking about 20, 21years ago.
So you know what we made.
It's called Iris on the Move.
So it's a gate which is used inairports, literally a
walkthrough gate.

Willow (29:24):
Okay.

Leah (29:25):
Like a robot type of device, like, uh

Willow (29:28):
at an airport?

Leah (29:29):
oh, okay.
Got it.

Soum (29:32):
TSA,

Leah (29:33):
Yes.

Soum (29:34):
and then you have to walk through this frame,

Leah (29:36):
Yeah.

Soum (29:37):
So we built a version of that called Iris on the move,

Willow (29:41):
Okay.

Soum (29:41):
had a camera,

Willow (29:42):
To

Soum (29:43):
which as you walked through, would capture, match
and by the time you had finishedwalking.
It would know who you are and

Leah (29:54):
Oh, so like facial recognition type of thing.

Soum (29:56):
like face exactly like that, but with eyeballs.
Exactly.

Willow (30:00):
eyeballs.
Okay,

Leah (30:01):
kidding.

Willow (30:01):
how, how did that technology translate into a
vulva pain and ED issues?

Soum (30:09):
Well, the, you, you know what, the underlying tech, the
electronics, all of that isbasically the same, right?
So we custom designed everythingback then, you know, to fit in
the gate.
And, uh, the only difference isnow we have more processing
power than 21 years ago.
Uh, so we can do a lot morestuff in a tiny chip, um,

Willow (30:28):
Okay,

Soum (30:29):
which we couldn't do.
So.

Willow (30:31):
in these like tiny little

Soum (30:32):
chips.
Exactly.
So the underlying electronics,it's not complicated, right?
At least.
At least not not.

Willow (30:40):
like an engineer geek?
Just

Soum (30:42):
Yes,

Willow (30:43):
together and take things apart?

Soum (30:45):
yes.
It still still am, which is whywe can't really leave this field
because no matter how old weget, we want to be in the lab
building stuff.

Willow (30:55):
be

Soum (30:55):
Yeah.

Leah (30:56):
Uh.
I wanna know a little bit aboutthe technology you're using for
orgasm for women.
Now we know, we've talked aboutejaculation for men with the
prostate, um, product.
What, what are you doing?
What's out there that's working,having to do with women reaching
climaxes?

Soum (31:16):
That's a really good point because we have a study on an
orgasm.
Um,

Willow (31:20):
Meaning

Soum (31:20):
uh.

Willow (31:21):
able to have an orgasm

Soum (31:23):
And we also have a study on arousal disorder, which is,
um, you know, often an issuewhich leads to, um, not being
able to orgasm.
Um, and a separate paper onvaginal dryness.
Um, all of these things areinterconnected, the fundamental
point to everything is vibratorystimulation between 50 and a

(31:45):
hundred hertz is what isclinically proven for decades,
and this is not our research.
Uh, this there is really wellestablished mammoth amount of
uh, research on vibration.
Um, starting from 1890s,

Leah (32:04):
Right.

Soum (32:05):
with hysteria,

Leah (32:06):
Right.
Um.

Soum (32:09):
interesting point about vibration is it was invented by
a doctor for sexual dysfunction.
It was medical for at least thefirst 50 years.
It only became a pleasure devicein the seventies.
Now obviously most people knowit as a pleasure, uh, device,
you know, when it comes tovibrators.

(32:30):
But the majority of, majority ofthe history of vibration and its
application has been medical.
So the professor at King'sCollege, who's our Chief Medical
Officer, has been researching onvibration for 30 years long
before we started.
Um, which is why, um, the doctorat NHS connected me with him

(32:50):
saying, if you do this company,you must have this professor
because has been working onvibration for a long time on
various things like, you know,passing urine.
How, how can a vibration on thebladder help someone pee who
cannot pee?
Uh, like research like this,which, you know, goes back three
decades.
So the, um, work is all aboutvibration.

(33:12):
Going back to orgasms, all we dois make it very precise.
The frequency and thedeliverability.
Um, point.
And, and that's really all we dofundamentally.
It's not complicated.
Make sure that the vibrationfrequency is the right, um,
number, uh, based on what hasworked before and make it really

(33:34):
malleable and easy for thepatient, the user, to get to the
point where they need it.
Yep.
Um, so, uh, the anorgasmia, um,topic is really interesting.
What we found is often, um,women who couldn't orgasm could
get very close, then something

Leah (33:55):
But short circuit.
Yeah.

Soum (33:58):
So what happened is, uh, with the vibration being at the
right point, wherever that rightpoint is for them, um, this was
an internal, uh, intravaginal,uh, study in the sense that it
only vibrate inside.
And they could

Leah (34:12):
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on, hold on.
Sorry.
I have to interrupt you.
It only vibrated inside thevagina, so there was no
vibration to the clitoris?

Soum (34:21):
Um, with the device.
You can in theory have bothsides,

Leah (34:25):
Uhhuh.

Soum (34:26):
vibrating.
But, uh, the way the study wasset up is we left it to the
patient to decide what is theright place for them.

Leah (34:33):
Okay.

Soum (34:34):
because for some users they need both.
Some users, they don't likeboth.
Um, but everyone had internalstimulation whether or not they
had external and they didn't useanything else.
Um, so just one device.
And what the conclusion was thatthe reason they were able to
orgasm was they could get overthat barrier by delivering high

(35:01):
power vibration on the pointthat is really arousing for
them, and it kept going toovercome their mental barriers.

Willow (35:12):
What do you mean?
It kept going

Soum (35:14):
as in the vibration,

Leah (35:15):
The vibration.

Soum (35:16):
the point that they felt was the right point for them,
which is why we didn't specify.

Willow (35:21):
okay.

Leah (35:21):
Which is why they didn't short circuit.
Yeah.
That moment where they tend togo, oh my God, it goes away.
That vibration continues at acertain level so that they can
cross that hurdle.

Soum (35:31):
it.
Yeah.

Leah (35:32):
Interesting.

Soum (35:33):
needed, they decided how much, there's a one to 16 level,
so they, they decided how muchpower is the right amount

Willow (35:39):
Mm-hmm.

Soum (35:39):
then they could deliver that continuously, um, to the
point that they could overcomethe barriers.

Willow (35:47):
So this, this I'm imagining mostly is like on the
g spot inside internally, but

Soum (35:52):
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.

Willow (35:54):
it, are you having, are women also using this device or
one of your devices to kind ofopen and stimulate cervix for
cervical orgasms?

Soum (36:04):
Uh, we haven't, uh, I I don't think we've done any
studies on that, um, whether anyof the studies did have patients
using it that way we haven'tcaptured.

Leah (36:15):
You haven't tracked.

Soum (36:16):
be a really good study to do.

Willow (36:17):
Yes, that would

Soum (36:18):
Yeah.

Leah (36:19):
that'd be fascinating.
Mm-hmm.

Willow (36:20):
And

Soum (36:21):
Yeah.
And the device is long enough todo it.
The crescendo device is longenough to do it.

Willow (36:25):
one could do it.
Okay,

Leah (36:27):
Okay, so, um,

Soum (36:29):
looking for new studies all the time.

Leah (36:31):
yeah, I, yes, if you needed volunteers, we'll
dedicate our bodies to science.
Um,

Soum (36:39):
any time we have at least 10 studies running.

Leah (36:41):
yeah.
Wow.
That's great.
Well, friends, this is theperfect moment if you haven't
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Willow (36:55):
Yeah.
And next Dr.
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that's been affecting one inthree women.
That's inspired one of his mostgroundbreaking devices.

Soum (37:09):
Well, it's something we talk about all the time, but not
many people realize how manywomen it affects.
Uh, so it's period pain.
One in three women ofmenstruating age, um, have
period pain so severe

Leah (37:22):
So severe.

Soum (37:23):
work.

Leah (37:25):
Or school.
God, I had friends in highschool who like every month they
have to spend two days at home.

Willow (37:31):
I was that girl.

Leah (37:32):
Really?
Ugh.
The dreaded pain.

Willow (37:35):
oh, it was horrible.
Hot

Soum (37:36):
And, and to think it's one in three, but very few people,
like, apart from, you know,people working in sexual health,
I don't think anyone realizesthat stat.
every, every everyone knows

Leah (37:48):
No.

Soum (37:49):
there.
Everyone is aware that periodpain is a thing.
But I would say 99% people thinkit's just another pain and you
can, you know, do whatever youdo.

Leah (37:58):
Right.

Soum (37:58):
But I don't think anyone outside.

Willow (38:01):
pain.
Yeah.

Soum (38:03):
I don't think anyone outside sexual health knows that
one in three women cannot doanything

Leah (38:08):
Like severe.
I didn't,

Willow (38:10):
do anything, like have

Soum (38:12):
yeah,

Willow (38:12):
sit in pain

Soum (38:14):
yeah,

Willow (38:15):
Yeah.

Soum (38:15):
yeah.
Every month.
Yeah.

Willow (38:17):
month and with my, you know, this has been a huge part
of my work is, um, I've been inwomen's health and wellness for
so long and it's been, uh, youknow, using herbs and using
using acupuncture, all of thatstuff can make a huge, huge
difference in moving thatstagnant blood out of the womb.

(38:37):
But they also have have to haveenough blood to like push
through that stagnant blood.
So if there's a blooddeficiency, then we need to also
tonify their blood.
Um, and then what I found formyself and for many of my
students as well, is like wewould get to a certain level of
pain release relief.
Um, but then there would stillbe a little bit of this like

(38:59):
underlying.
And then when I started usingthe Taoist sexual practices,
specifically ovarian breathingto pump energy through the
ovaries, through the fallopiantubes, through the womb, um,
that pretty much wipedeverything out.
So I'm so excited to learn aboutwhat you, um,

Leah (39:15):
very.

Willow (39:16):
as a non womb owner.
I mean, I think that'smiraculous in and of itself.

Soum (39:21):
Yeah, but you've, you've literally explained exactly what
a device does

Leah (39:25):
No way.

Soum (39:26):
it does is blood flow and that's it.
Um, so, so what we have designedis this, um, you know, think of
it as like a.
Um, rectangular thing.
Yeah.
it's very slim, um, obviouslymade of medical silicone with
vibration motors inside, it's,um, so

Leah (39:47):
What's it called?

Soum (39:48):
uh, it's called Soto.
Uh, it's not, uh, released yet.
It's still

Leah (39:51):
Hmm.
Okay.

Soum (39:53):
all our products take at least five years.
Um, and this, this one luckilyis in the fifth year and it's,
um, we've already finished themedical trials.

Willow (40:00):
Ladies.

Soum (40:00):
should,

Leah (40:01):
Okay.

Soum (40:02):
months.

Willow (40:02):
We're

Leah (40:03):
Yeah.

Soum (40:04):
so, so, um, uh, what it does is, uh, it sticks to your
lower abdomen.
So basically just below thebelly button.
It's a sticky thing.
Yeah.
Uh, very easy to, um, attach,uh, take out.
Um, and it's very slim, so youjust put it on, wear your
clothes, you know, get on withyour day, it's very quiet

Leah (40:27):
Hmm,

Soum (40:28):
12 hour runtime, and that was really important.

Willow (40:31):
on, turn it on, and

Leah (40:32):
and it vibrates.

Soum (40:33):
Exactly

Willow (40:34):
than Aleve.

Soum (40:36):
it vibrates.
Uh, but again, you know, theright frequency is the right
amount, but for a very longtime.
So one of the biggest challengeswe faced with building this is
often pain lasts quite long

Leah (40:47):
Right.
You have to charge it.

Soum (40:50):
Exactly.
And that's obviously notpossible, you know, when you're
out.
Um, and most of our

Leah (40:54):
Yay.

Soum (40:54):
are designed to last 2 hours maximum

Leah (40:57):
Sure.

Soum (40:58):
it for more than that.
Um, whereas this one, two hourswas not going to be enough, so
we had to redesign it so thateverything to make it last 12
hours.
Um,

Leah (41:07):
Well.

Soum (41:08):
um, but uh, so we ran a study, um, and there was, so
while it was, uh, vibrating, inall the cases, they either
didn't feel the pain or wasvery, very minimal.

Willow (41:23):
Mm.

Soum (41:24):
So, so basically it's continuously getting blood
flowing.
Um, that fundamentally that'sall it's doing.
So it's not complicated.
Um, but it was more aboutusability of the device that you
can, know, go out, do yourthings.
Um,

Willow (41:40):
of it.

Soum (41:41):
yes.

Leah (41:41):
I'm curious.

Willow (41:42):
now in this study,'cause I always wanna know more details
about what kind of blood iscoming out.
You know, are you now seeingmore clots being passed, Is it
dark?

Soum (41:50):
Oh, that, that we don't know yet because this is, um, so
we do two types of studies.
One is a study while a productis still being created, um,
which is not a formal study inthe sense that we, we don't
publish these.
It's just purely to informproduct research.
Then once the product is fullyout, you know, regulated, et

(42:11):
cetera, then we would do aproper medical trial.
To get clinical evidence andpublish papers.
So it's two separate things.
And this, this was, this wasmore like studies to understand
what is working, what is notworking,

Willow (42:24):
Mm-hmm.

Soum (42:25):
to then decide what the final product should be.
Um, to, which is why all of ourdevelopment takes forever.
Um, like, you know, we areworking on

Willow (42:34):
a pretrial, then

Soum (42:36):
Exactly,

Willow (42:37):
and have a post trial to

Soum (42:38):
exactly.

Willow (42:39):
that you wanna put out to the public.

Soum (42:41):
And often the pretrial would tell us that the product
that we made isn't good enoughand we'd redo the whole thing,
which is why it's so useful.
And that's happened many.
Yeah.
It's happened to many, manyproducts, uh, where we, we build
something.

Willow (42:54):
so exceptional.

Soum (42:56):
Well, but I think the most important thing is healthcare,
you can't really launchanything, which is not good
enough.

Willow (43:03):
That's true.

Soum (43:04):
Like, the clinicians trust that you would, you know, make
sure you're doing, um, all theright things, both safety and
efficacy.
And so if we are in a rush tolaunch something, it would
definitely not be good enough.

Willow (43:19):
Right,

Soum (43:20):
Um, like there's a product we are working on, which we are
really excited about, but it'sat least a year away.
Uh, it's a mastitis bra, soit's, um.

Willow (43:28):
that's gonna be amazing for women.

Soum (43:30):
Um, and you know the

Leah (43:32):
what's that?
A mastitis bra

Willow (43:35):
mastitis, um, often when

Leah (43:37):
from nursing.
Okay.

Willow (43:39):
where one of the like

Leah (43:41):
nipple ducks.
The glands are inflamed and

Willow (43:45):
it hurts like a

Leah (43:46):
Yeah,

Willow (43:47):
It's so

Leah (43:48):
I, yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.

Soum (43:50):
Currently, there are no solutions.

Willow (43:52):
no

Leah (43:52):
Right

Willow (43:53):
Cabbage is the

Soum (43:54):
Uh, warm towels generally is what people would

Leah (43:57):
Uhhuh.

Soum (43:58):
And so it's such a massive thing, no solutions at all.
Um,

Leah (44:02):
Wow.

Soum (44:03):
so excited about getting that out so we can,

Leah (44:05):
When do you, when do you propose that we'll launch

Soum (44:08):
at least a year away.
Sadly,

Leah (44:09):
what does it do?

Soum (44:11):
uh, it's literally the same thing as the period paint
belt, soft, sticky silicone, um,you know, like those sticky
bras.
Uh,

Leah (44:19):
Yeah, that cover your nipples, so, yeah.
Yeah.

Soum (44:21):
that, you know, just like a bigger version of that, uh,
again, with vibration.
And then so that one, we aregoing to have vibration and
heat, so that's why it's a lotmore

Leah (44:30):
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.

Soum (44:32):
heat and vibration.

Willow (44:33):
feel good, just even if you don't have mastitis.

Leah (44:36):
Yeah.
Just for,

Soum (44:38):
Yeah,

Leah (44:38):
yeah.

Willow (44:39):
on your breasts.
Yes, please.
I mean, I think over you.
What I'm predicting what you'regonna find with that particular
product is that it also supportsbreast health,

Soum (44:48):
Mm-hmm.

Willow (44:49):
know,

Soum (44:49):
Yep.

Willow (44:50):
um, like fi, fibrocystic breast tissue,

Soum (44:53):
Yep.

Willow (44:54):
opening up any kind of breast, um, issues.
However, if somebody has breastcancer, probably they don't
wanna use that device.

Soum (45:02):
Yep.
No, exactly.
There'll be so manyapplications.
And also we always tell people,you know, if you have any
complications, check with yourdoctor before you use anything.

Leah (45:11):
Now,

Soum (45:12):
emails about, you know, questions and we always tell
them to check with theirclinician first.

Leah (45:17):
how long does it take for, um, you to come up with an idea
for a product, do all thetesting and get it to the
marketplace?
What's the general length oftime?
Mm-hmm.

(45:44):
Mm-hmm.
What, what?

Soum (45:44):
the breast pain device, it has the most number of parts.

Willow (45:49):
most

Soum (45:49):
and it, it just means, it, it, so many things need to be
perfect.
Um, and, and the reason I usethat word is because once in med
tech, you can't really dominimum viable product.
It just, it's not, know, youcan't get that through
regulatory approval.
Um, you know, also, you don'twant to invest a lot of money on

(46:09):
clinical trials when the productis not final.
So you want to get to the pointwhere the product is really,
really good.
And, and sometimes it doeshappen that we think the
product's really, really good.
We do trials, but it's not goodenough.
Then like, you know, crescendobecame crescendo two to two
because we just were not happyenough with that device even

(46:29):
though it was final.
So that does happen, butgenerally we try to make sure we
have gathered as much feedbackas possible before we launch
anything.
So.
It is really simple.
Maybe start to finish would bethree years.

Leah (46:44):
Okay.

Soum (46:44):
if it's complicated it could be six, seven years.

Leah (46:49):
Okay.
And is there any products or anyissues that we haven't mentioned
that you think would beimportant to mention?

Soum (46:56):
Um, so one of the things we're currently working on is
adding sensors.
Um, and this is again, you know,quite far away in the sense
that.
It being an actual product inthe market, we need different
types of studies.
So a, a simple example would beenlarged prostate.
So the Molto device obviously,you know, is inserted, can reach

(47:21):
the prostate and, uh, vibrate.
But what we are working on nowis adding sensors inside the, so
it'll look the same.
It will work the same, but itwill be able to capture at least
temperature, pressure andmoisture, data.
And then what we would have todo is run a big study to match
whether there is a correlationbetween those data points for

Leah (47:45):
Okay.

Soum (47:46):
prostate

Leah (47:48):
Yeah, I feel almost like the,

Soum (47:50):
a completely perfect prostate.
Yeah.
And then if we can prove that,then we would know that there is
a certain range feeling a lotmore, uh.
three metrics need to be whereyour prostate is fine and
another range where you shouldgo

Leah (48:05):
Check your doctor.
I'm glad you brought this upbecause this was a question I
had running through my mindearlier, what do you have to say
about men who have gotten testresults that their PSA scores
are a little elevated, theirprostate is swollen.
And how do you feel aboutprostate massage as an
intervention to try to lowerthose scores?
Lower the swelling, um, as apreventative to something

(48:27):
escalating like prostate cancer?

Soum (48:29):
That is literally what Malto is designed to do

Leah (48:33):
Okay.
Great.

Soum (48:34):
massage, because that's literally what you would get if
you went to a clinician with anenlarged prostate.
Exactly.
That's, that's all they do.
Um, you know, like from aphysical perspective, that is
literally it inserting a fingerand pressing it.
Prostate massage.
So the, the challenge is thatyou cannot, as a patient, do it
to yourself,

Willow (48:52):
own.

Soum (48:52):
which means that most prostate health gets worse
because you simply do not havethe time to go see a, it is, the
therapist, you know, uh, uh,once a week, which would be the,
you know, ideal frequency.
Uh, that's just not possible.

Leah (49:09):
Right, but a partners can do this for their loved one, and
so you would recommend tomassage that prostate once a
week.
At what point is it dangerous ornot helpful to continue to do
the prostate massage as maybethey already have cancer or
whatnot.

Soum (49:27):
I think the w with these things we always tell people, do
what you feel comfortable.
You know, obviously don't do itif there's too much pain.
Um, but really there is no badof pro massage there, there's
nothing, you know, nothing,nothing wrong with prostate
massage.
So, um, but obviously, you know,if you're in excruciating pain,

(49:47):
you don't want to do somethingwhether with a device, with a
partner, or you know, with aclinician that you want to go
get it checked properly.
Maybe there is, maybe it'sreached a point where you need,
um, surgery.
Um, and obviously that'ssomething you obviously cannot
solve.
Um, but generally therecommendation from all
urologists is regular prostatemassage is just going to make

(50:10):
your prostate health better.

Willow (50:11):
Healthier.

Leah (50:12):
Wonderful.
Glad, glad to get thatconfirmed.

Willow (50:14):
Everybody listen, I, I really wanna tell my parents
generation loud and clearprostate massages good for you.

Leah (50:22):
Yes.

Willow (50:22):
I'm, I'm curious, um, how do you come up with the
names for these devices and howHow do you have total?

Soum (50:29):
Uh, in the market.
Six.
So those are the ones which are,you know, been there.

Willow (50:34):
Ok, so when Susan brought out that huge box, a lot
of those are not on the market.

Soum (50:39):
Uh, no, maybe, I think she has multiple of.

Willow (50:42):
Oh,

Soum (50:42):
has loads of, she has loads of her devices.

Willow (50:44):
of

Soum (50:45):
Yeah.
She has lots of her devices, um,over the years.

Willow (50:47):
Yeah.
Okay.

Soum (50:48):
So six, which are in the market, in the market means, you
know, they have clinicalstudies, they obviously are FDA,
they're all of FHSA, so that,that's why it takes a while for
anything to be in the market.
Um, and then the period paincoming out next, uh, breast pain
hopefully in a year.
Um, the penal compression one,maybe this year it's just very
slow process.

(51:09):
Um, how,

Leah (51:10):
Mm-hmm.

Soum (51:10):
we name them?
Really simple.
We try to make them quite, uh,user friendly.
So we think of Italian musicalnotes, um,

Willow (51:17):
Oh, is

Soum (51:18):
and,

Willow (51:19):
it

Soum (51:19):
and, and that that's all it is.
So ev every, um, e every,everything has a meaning.
Like crescendo means, you know,reaching a peak.
Um, Molto, hang on.
I, I need to give you the rightnow.
So Molto means a lot.

Willow (51:33):
A

Soum (51:33):
lot.

Leah (51:33):
Cool.
I love that.
Great question, Willow.
I like that.

Soum (51:39):
And, and you know why we thought of Malto as a lot is
because the, uh, in theory themost, um, the strongest orgasm a
man can have is throughprostate.

Willow (51:49):
prostate.

Leah (51:50):
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yes.
Is that because, is is thatbecause of the, the hypogastric
nerve then gets combined withall the other nerves, like the
vagus and the pelvic and thepudendal.

Soum (52:00):
It is and also the prostate is the semen gland.

Leah (52:03):
Okay.
And because it's a semen gland.
Wow.
How fun.

Willow (52:07):
All right.

Leah (52:07):
Um.

Willow (52:07):
so I know we have some listeners out there who are in
the field.
They are dakini's, daka's,tantra

Leah (52:15):
flied, pelvic floor specialists.

Willow (52:18):
You know, um, who are really working with, with
clients hands-on.
And I know that you guys haveaffiliate links.
Is there a way that they couldbecome affiliates for these
products?

Soum (52:30):
Yes, absolutely.
And, and we really want more andmore people talking about this.
Um, so on our website, there's alittle link, uh, on the bottom
in the footer for affiliatesignup, but, um, I'll also share
that so you can add it to thefootnotes.

Leah (52:44):
Yeah, I mean, I can see, you know, both gynecologists,
urologists, all sorts of peoplerecommending these products, uh,
so that people can continuehaving interventions that will
be easy to do at home.
And you've been so generous tooffer our, our audience a
coupon.

Soum (53:02):
Yes, uh, SXR 20.

Leah (53:05):
Great.

Soum (53:07):
on top of our site sale, which will probably be 35% off
soon.

Leah (53:12):
Right.
uh, sale.
Okay.
So you're saying now, let mejust get this straight.
You're saying that they can useboth the 20% off discount and
the 35% discount?
That's 55% off.

Willow (53:23):
Yes, 55% off.

Leah (53:25):
Um, you know, I'll be shopping.
I hope the rest of you will too.
And you guys, this isn't all,y'all are so generous.
We also have a free gift, um,which is the how to introduce
more fun in the bedroom.
What is that?

Soum (53:42):
I believe that one is written by Susan Bratton.

Leah (53:46):
Oh, great.
Okay.

Soum (53:48):
It'll be incredibly good.

Leah (53:50):
Yes, I, and we can verify that.
So, uh, we'll have the link inthe show notes for the coupon
code, for the affiliate link andfor the free gift, how to
introduce more fun in thebedroom.
Thank you so much for being onthe show.
This was so enlightening, sofun.
And, uh, we can't wait to get abunch of questions in from our
listeners.

(54:11):
We'll have you back on the showand we can take another deep
dive.

Soum (54:14):
Thank you so much for having me.

Willow (54:16):
Such a pleasure.
Thanks for coming.

Announcer (54:19):
Now our favorite part, the dish.

Willow (54:23):
I just loved interviewing Saum.
I mean, fascinating journey andyou know, what a, what a brain,
what a brain to be walkingaround in this world with.

Leah (54:33):
Yeah, I love the, um, the perspective and the lens that
this all started from.
And I love the problems thatthey are committed to solving
because these have been greatmysteries, uh, for both men and
women when it comes to sexualfunction and fulfillment.

(54:54):
That has been elusive and it hasjust kind of felt tragic until
this conversation, which I amjust feel so filled with hope.

Willow (55:04):
Yeah, I definitely shed a lot of hope.
I mean, the whole, um,contraption that he's coming out
with right now for mastitis,that is huge.
That is gonna be a major, majorgame changer for women who are
breastfeeding.
And then, you know, the, thepainful period one, all of these
um, devices and contraptions.
I still think it is importantto, like when you're, when

(55:25):
you're looking at painfulperiods, to be looking at your
diet, to be looking at yourstress levels and to be looking
at herbs as well as these, um,contraptions.
But yeah, as far as like wakingup the prostate gland and, you
know, stimulating the GSpot o orthe, the cervix in new ways with
these devices that he's created,I would say do not pass go.

Leah (55:49):
Well, I'm really glad that you brought up the holistic
piece because it's importantthat people know that it's not
just, you know, one medicationor one device or one toy that is
going to resolve all thesuffering.
You need to look at it from aholistic point of view.

(56:09):
And look at many angles totackle it from.
And by doing so, I think youjust increase your overall
wellbeing, your overall health,and you know, all that stuff.
So it's not only beneficial forthe issue at hand, but typically
ends up benefiting all theseother sectors in your life when
you're taking a look at yourdiet and these other
interventions.

Willow (56:29):
Absolutely gonna create so much more longevity in so
many ways.
And, you know, I just, um, thismorning started rereading
existential kink.
I think that's a

Leah (56:38):
Oh, really?

Willow (56:39):
holistic way of like,

Leah (56:41):
Mm

Willow (56:41):
the suffering that you're going through.
Like what, what unconscious partof yourself loves the painful
periods or loves having, um.
Uh, you know, I was just talkingto a potential client yesterday,
I think it was, who was having,um, painful orgasms.
And it is

Leah (56:59):
mm

Willow (56:59):
have clients

Leah (57:01):
I

Willow (57:01):
orgasms,

Leah (57:02):
I hear about that.
Yes.
That would've been a goodquestion for him.

Willow (57:06):
But I've had a lot of success in helping them have
non-painful orgasms and

Leah (57:13):
by how what?
What have you done?
That's

Willow (57:14):
Through Taoist practices and um,

Leah (57:17):
any tips you can share with the audience?

Willow (57:19):
hands-on, well, it depends on, you know, the
person's body and like what,what nerves and pelvic floor
tissues are impinged and what,you

Leah (57:29):
Hmm.

Willow (57:29):
muscle groups and ligaments and stuff might be
tied up.
So it's a sort of a combinationbetween hands-on and then, um,
you know, running energy indifferent ways and also, um,
doing some out emotional releaseto find that place inside to get
really deeper into thesensation.
'Cause when we experience pain,we wanna get away from it, you

(57:52):
know?
So the whole premise ofexistential kink'cause to like
delight in the suffering anddelight in the pain.
And so this is totally off topicfrom what Suam talking

Leah (58:03):
Well, but I think it's an, an interesting thing to bring up
that is relatable to the wholeinterview is this piece around
painful orgasms.
And so if you are out there andyou are experiencing this, give
Dr.
Willow, uh, get on her discoverycall calendar because, um, she
may have some answers for you.

(58:23):
And it sounds like you're reallytackling it from three places.
Uh, the physiological, um, youknow places that are stuck with
tension, and then the energeticmovement of that tension, and
then the psychological, uh, uh,inquiry that helps someone
relieve where they're storing,let's say an inflection point, a
trauma, a crisis, a piece ofstress in the tissue itself.

Willow (58:47):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And it was so, you know, it wasso cool hearing some talk about
his devices.
'Cause I was like, oh, this isgonna be another piece to
incorporate, to teach people howto use.
Don't just be going up andlooking for the pleasure spots
and the orgasm spots.
Like go in and look for theplaces that feel uncomfortable,
that feel painful, and thenstart to talk to the tissue and

(59:09):
unravel it from that, from thatangle.
And he did speak to that.
He is like, find that, find thatplace that is, um, pleasurable,
and then move a little bitbeyond it into that tissue
that's not pleasurable.
Really is amazing.
What happens when we open thepelvic floor tissue?
It's like

Leah (59:26):
Mm-hmm.

Willow (59:26):
the brain up, opens the whole mind up.

Leah (59:29):
Yeah, as you know, one of the tips we give people is, you
know, build a highway from apleasure zone to a painful zone.
So with your fingers, you dipinto pleasure, you massage, you
feel the pleasure, then you takea deep breath, and then you move
your fingers as if you coulddrag that pleasure to another
spot that may have tension orpain.
It's like you're running ahighway between the two so that

(59:52):
the pleasure can start toalleviate energetically that
place that you've got extratension or you know, stuck
blocks.
Now one of the things I reallyloved about the interview was
talking about people who have ahard time reaching climax men in
particular.
And this keeping pressure andmassage to the prostate gland to

(01:00:12):
help coax that ejaculation intofruition.
And you know, when I typicallywork with people who have just,
it's like they just get stuck onthe arousal scale.
They can't get to 10, if thatwere ejaculation, they get stuck
at around four or five and, umyou know the two things that
I've done to address that isshifting and reteaching how to

(01:00:36):
feel pleasure with differentstrokes and different types of
friction.
Because typically people areonly able to ejaculate because
they use the same type ofpressure, the same type of
friction.
Usually their partner's bodycan't compete with the friction
that gets them off becausethey're typically using their
hand.
It's usually not hard enough orfast enough and they get kind of

(01:00:57):
stuck.
And so it's a challenge to havethe discipline to actually
rewire your system to enjoy afeather like touch, to enjoy a
much slower pace.
And it's worth the practice and,and the discovery to train
yourself to like those things.
And then that might lead you toan ejaculation.

(01:01:18):
Um, and so of course, G-Spotmassage, prostate massages can
be in combination of all thosethings, but really feeling more
confident about bridging the twoof them.
That that prostate gland isreally the ejaculation gland.
Um, I loved the kind of phrasingit, put it whole, it brought the
box bigger in my mind.

Willow (01:01:40):
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, it was such a greatinterview.
I'm so excited for more of his,um, for more of his, you know,
amazing devices to come online.

Leah (01:01:51):
Well, I'm so,

Willow (01:01:52):
check out the discount code.

Leah (01:01:54):
yeah, but you know what?
I went to his website and Ithink it says 35% off the
product line right now.
So yeah, check out the website.
The link is in the show notes.
Yeah, I mean, that's incredible.

Willow (01:02:08):
in me.
That's like,

Leah (01:02:09):
That's like getting a hundred dollars off the
products, 55% because they'renot inexpensive.
I mean, a lot of these types of,uh, sex toys and medical grade
toys that we've interfaced withare in the 200 and beyond range.
I don't think kids are thatexpensive, but I did see like
$235,$195, that kind of thing.

(01:02:30):
So that's a big deal.

Willow (01:02:32):
the deal.

Leah (01:02:33):
We have received other sex toys that are bendable.
You know, I think one of thethings that has made his so
successful is that they'rebendable so they can be like
fingers.
So you can aim at the prostategland and you can aim at the, um
female G-spot, and you can kindof adjust the right angle

(01:02:55):
because it's very malleable.
And I'm curious, have you playedwith any of those?
I always get a little stuck withlike, okay, getting it the right
shape and then hooking that intothe body.
Like can you bend it whenyou're, when it's already in
your body?

Willow (01:03:11):
Yeah, well it's, it's not an actual finger, so, um, I
have not played with them insideof my own body.
I've only played with them inSusan Bratton's living room, so
with a bunch of other experts.
So we were having a great timeplaying bending.
But yeah, we, we didn't get to,to go inside, but soon we will.

(01:03:31):
'cause he is sending us somesamples.

Leah (01:03:33):
Yeah.

Willow (01:03:34):
to report back to y'all once we've had some playtime.

Leah (01:03:37):
And since Susan Bratton has come up a couple times in
the episode, I will link herepisode with us, which was very
entertaining.
She's so vivacious and fun.
Um, you'll learn a lot from her.
Uh, check it out.

Willow (01:03:48):
Yeah.

Leah (01:03:50):
Okay, love, love, love.

Announcer (01:03:52):
Thanks for tuning in.
This episode was hosted byTantric Sex Master Coach and
positive psychology facilitator,Leah Piper, as well as by
Chinese and Functional Medicinedoctor and Taoist Techology
teacher, Dr.
Willow Brown.
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