From Rough Morning To Building A Show: Tips, Travel, And Taming The Booze

A hangover can be a harsh teacher, but it can also be the nudge to get serious. We open with a messy morning and the hard truth about mixing liquor and beer, then chart a clear path from chaos to craft: how we built a workable podcast setup, why Buzzsprout’s mastering helped us fight noisy rooms, and what we’re changing to make each episode cleaner and more intentional.

We talk real gear and real constraints—two mics, one interface, and a quiet corner made quieter with blankets and soft surfaces. When the street gets loud, smart post‑processing saves the take. We break down release strategy too: pacing episodes to fit hosting limits, testing a $1 paywall for a two‑parter, and timing guest appearances so they add value instead of derailing our rhythm. Naming and artwork get a refresh plan, with a focus on bold thumbnails, legible type, and titles that actually say what the listener will get.

Travel stories turn into lessons on respect and risk. All‑inclusive resorts are fun but blinding; tip fairly, stay alert, and remember you’re a guest. Music influences—from Sublime to 90s alt—feed the show’s structure: open strong, explore with purpose, close with a takeaway. We also wade into privacy and surveillance, comparing VPNs and data‑removal tools while outlining simple habits that make recording smoother: preflight checklists, updates done early, and devices set aside to cut interference.

Underneath it all is a decision to drink less and plan more, not out of fear but out of care for the work. The goal is simple: give you a sturdy signal in a noisy world. If you’re starting your own show, you’ll leave with practical steps for setup, publishing, sound, and growth—and maybe a few reminders about chasers, hydration, and learning the easy way.

If this resonates, follow the show, share it with a friend who’s building something, and drop a comment with your must‑have podcast tool or your best soundproof hack. Your ideas shape what we make next.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_02 (00:03):
I am doing uh I think everybody knew when I
walked out Saturday.
And welcome to the show.
I didn't even know.

(00:38):
Like the morning, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (00:42):
Yeah, I mean sometimes sometimes it's like
morning and then you have a midafternoon and then like uh
afternoon.
I think from like from like uhearly I don't know.
Well could I consider I don'tknow.
I wake up at two o'clock in themorning most mornings.

(01:05):
That's that's pretty, but uhthat's that's my old age.
Yeah.
You just uh wake up and look atthe stars, just well I wave you
know I I I it as I like to say,I I wake up to rewrite to go
rewrite the constitution.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
Nice.
You know?
Someone needs to do it.
But no the thing is I I thinkthey're not really taking the
constitution serious no more.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28):
You know?

SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
I'm just playing off of that word.
I'm gonna go take my my con uhmorning constitutional.
Oh, what is that?
I never Yeah, it's what theycall it when you dismiss
yourself.
Oh, oh shoot.
I gotta use that at work.
Take a shit and go re go gorewrite the constitution real
quick.
Real quick, real quick.

SPEAKER_02 (01:46):
But yeah, no, dude.
Um, you know, I got hammered,dude.
And I woke up, I don't know whyI went to work.
Went to work.
Wasn't feeling it.
Changed the tire, I buggy out.
I bug it out.
Wait, wait, you don't know whyyou went to work or you don't
know why you why you I don'tknow why I go to work sometimes
too, but no, I you know, I feellike I should have just stayed
home because I wasn't feelingit.

(02:07):
I woke up with a little bit of ahangover.
And you know, me trying to bethe responsible person, I just
said, you know what, let me goto work.
Went to work, bad idea, buddy.
Bad idea.
Bad idea.
I was only there for like anhour.
Don't want to get too much intothe details of it.

SPEAKER_01 (02:19):
Well, please do, please do, you know, but um
don't keep our you know, ourlisteners just had a headache,
dude.

SPEAKER_02 (02:25):
You had a headache, huh?
Uh stomach was hurting, wasn'tfeeling it.
And um, I get there and they'relike, hey, bud, this this guy,
he kind of wants this trailer.
I tell buddy, hey bro, give me asecond, bro.
Let me think about it.
Let me let me let me calculatethis real quick.
And uh, I seen a tire, and I wasjust like, Yeah, you know, this
tire, bro, is not feeling it.

(02:50):
Hey, dude, you you know, I don'tknow if you've ever gone to work
with a hangover, dude, but it'snot the best.

SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
And the thing is, I I think we're not talking about
me, we're talking about you, solet's not change the subject.
No, at all.

SPEAKER_02 (03:03):
I'm just our listeners out there, you know.
I man, and let me tell you guysout there, listen, bro.
Do not use beer as a chaser forliquor.
If if if you you know, bad idea,bro.
Bad idea.
If you're gonna drink liquor,you gotta have a good chaser and
water at all times.

SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
Yeah, let the uh professional alcoholics like
like me handle that sort ofstuff.

SPEAKER_02 (03:24):
You know what I mean, bro?
I don't know what I wasthinking.
I was having a few beers.

SPEAKER_01 (03:28):
You weren't?

SPEAKER_02 (03:28):
I had a few beers and the shots came in and coming
and this way, and I said, youknow what, dude?

SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
Who are you drinking?

SPEAKER_02 (03:34):
Don Julio.
Don Julio?
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Don Julio.

SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
It'd be nice if they uh if they, you know, you know,
if they shout us out or yeah,yeah, shout out to you.
I love them, really.
Like they're I when I drinktequila, everybody has their,
you know, but it's just dude,don't chase him with you.
You don't normally drinktequila, but when you do, I
don't normally drink tequila,but when I do, I drink the best,
you know.
I don't usually take over theworld, but when I drink.
So you drink?
Sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 (03:58):
But so you drink on Julio.

SPEAKER_02 (04:04):
No, but uh, yeah, dude, rough Monday, right?
I said, you know what, dude?
I told dude, hey man, I can't dothis.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go man.

SPEAKER_01 (04:11):
Rough Saturday?

SPEAKER_02 (04:11):
Rough Saturday, dude.
So I told Buddy, dude, it's notit's only it's only 90.

SPEAKER_01 (04:15):
If you think it's Monday, bro, damn.
I hate to I hate to break it toyou.
Did I say Monday?

SPEAKER_02 (04:20):
Yeah.
Oh, it's a rough SaturdayMonday.
Uh, anyways, it's a roughSaturday, bro.
And uh, I told Buddy, hey man,I'm gonna call it a day, man.
Go home, knock out, woke up,felt a little bit better.

SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
You feel better?

SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
Uh went to go get some grub and yeah, dude.
Yeah, that was that was rough.
And here we are again, roundtwo.

SPEAKER_01 (04:38):
Round two.

SPEAKER_02 (04:39):
Yeah.
You you know that feeling whenyou're like, I'm gonna be
drinking again.
I'm done.
But right now, I'm not gonnalie, a cold beer would sound
good.

SPEAKER_01 (04:45):
Really?

SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
A cold, but I'm talking about cold.

SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
All right, well, you want to just you I mean, like I
said, actually, yeah, no.
I should probably wait till itgets to the city.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (04:55):
Because I got I might have to go, you know,
yeah, and there too.

SPEAKER_01 (04:57):
Um I mean, just one.

SPEAKER_02 (04:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, we'll see.
But yeah, no, dude, that wasjust that was just the morning,
bro.
And it's only it's Farday Dayafternoon.

SPEAKER_01 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (05:05):
And on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here with
your two hosts, your two.

SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
Man, I'm surprised you you slipped it off in like
what, like an hour into an hourand a half?

SPEAKER_02 (05:13):
Nah, it was like three hours.
I got home like at nine.

SPEAKER_01 (05:15):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
No, I got home like at 10 and I slept.

SPEAKER_01 (05:19):
So therefore, like, yeah, dude.
You barely I barely missed youthen when it when I hit you for
that text.
Yeah, yeah.
I was like I said, I was gonnatry and uh I was gonna actually
try and hit you up like around9.20, but I was uh like my
phone, all that crap.
So it took me a second, like Inoticed it wasn't connected to
my laptop for some reason.
Oh, I remember why now.
I installed an update before Iwent home.

(05:39):
Or before I went to work.
Or last night, I think, or someshit.

SPEAKER_02 (05:43):
Those updates are getting crazy.
And I was just like, you know,gotta get the show going.

SPEAKER_01 (05:49):
Yeah, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_02 (05:50):
I felt like I was dying, dude.
Yep.
One time though, I did go to ifyou ever go to uh an
all-inclusive resort, bro, it'sdangerous.

SPEAKER_01 (05:59):
Yeah, I've never been.
It's dangerous because uh I'venever understood what an on the
all-inclusive resort is.

SPEAKER_02 (06:05):
Just like all you could eat, all you could drink,
pretty much.
Yeah, and they have shows andthen how much is something like
that?

SPEAKER_01 (06:10):
Uh well I got lucky.
Was this Vegas or what?

SPEAKER_02 (06:13):
Nah, I got lucky because um the chick I was with,
she had uh unlimited, like notunlimited, she she uses a credit
card and they gave her likeflight points.
And uh and she's like, Oh, youknow, let's go check out
Dominican Republic.
I said, Cool.

SPEAKER_01 (06:29):
Well, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 (06:29):
Yeah, and I think I think for for me, I think I just
gave up like I think it was like$800 each, or like, but I paid
more, I paid more of I I g Ithink I gave her like a thousand
because she paid for for theflight there and back.
So I said, I'll pay for the roomfor both of us, kind of.
So I think it was like, but Iforgot, dude.
It was like like almost like athousand couple thousand, like a

(06:50):
thousand and four or fivehundred.
I got you.
For a for like for a week, itwas like for a week, and you go
and you just it's a nice place.
Yeah, nice place right by thebeach.
They bring you.
I mean, they if you want roomservice, they might charge you.
But for the most part, you wakeup, you could eat breakfast all
you want, they have dinner, theyhave shows, they have little
like adventures if you want togo try out, like you know, yeah,

(07:12):
yeah.
So even uh they have a couple ofthem in Mexico, but I feel like
Mexico, bro, or like places likethat, like they're cool.
All inclusive resorts are cool.
Yeah, it's just you don't seethe real part of where you're
at.
Like, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:25):
I mean, I've never really been to resort.
Like when I've been to Mexico,it's always been with family,
right?

SPEAKER_02 (07:30):
It's always like out there.
Yep, and most of these places,you're in like, yeah, it's
Mexico, it's Dominican Republic,it's it's these places, these
nice uh tropical places, but youknow, I I feel like there's more
to it.
But you obviously you don't wantto step out on your own because
it could get dangerous, right?
Right, right, right.
You don't want to go explore,even though you do want to go

(07:51):
and and see the actual cultureand try their food and
everything, that's good, and youknow, be respectful.
Because the thing is, I notice,and and then and it's not just
certain groups or nothing,everybody kind of does it.
Like, I'm kind of I'm kind of atfault too sometimes.
Like when I go and peoplesometimes they forget, you know,
like, dude, you're in some likekind of you're kind of visiting
somewhere else.
So try to be polite, try to berespectful.

SPEAKER_01 (08:12):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (08:13):
Because that's dude, I'm not gonna lie, bro.
A lot of people they don't likethey're like, oh, you're an
American or you're this, or youknow, they they think of us as
rude or like you know, no, forsure, this and that.
And and that's not the case fromfor for everybody, dude.
That's really not, you know.
Most of most people, I I mean,obviously there's assholes,
dude.
There's assholes everywhere, youknow what I mean?
Like, I've been on trips, andand there's there's this guy

(08:35):
getting drunk belligerentthough.
You know, there's a difference.
Like, if you're drunk having agood time, that's cool, but
nobody wants to be you knowhaving a good time, and then
there's some belligerent dudeover there who can't handle his
liquor.
So, to the point I was gettingabout this whole story that went
off track, dude.
I went with this chick, and Ievery time they were giving me a
shot, I was giving them adollar, dude.
And they just kept giving shot,shot, shot, shot.

(08:57):
Yep, yep.
And dude, at the end of thenight, I was I was hanging over
the balcony, dying.
Yeah, dying, dude.
She's like, what about theneighbors?
I said, fuck the neighbors.
It's dangerous, dude.
Dangerous.
Because it's the dude, a dollarshot, pretty much.
And it's decent, it's like youthe bottle with tequila we get
over there, or like Jose Quavo.
Yeah, dollar shots, yeah.

(09:17):
Yeah, ten dollars, ten shots,you know what I mean?
Bro, and they're slamming you,pa, pa, pa.
And you it's all you could eat.
So I'm just dude, this and thenthey had a show that night,
dude.
Oh man, bro.
It was it was the rap, dude.
I got home, I mean, I got to thehotel room, dude.
I just I wow, I was dead.
That's dead.
I told X, that's dead, dude.
So you gotta be careful, bro.

(09:39):
Gotta be careful.

SPEAKER_01 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (09:41):
Drinking is no joke, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (09:42):
You never hear you.

SPEAKER_02 (09:44):
It's I and it's not even the beer, dude.
The beer will make you likedrunk, but more like a sleepy,
like kind of like hungry drunk.
Liquor, dude.
Nah, dude.
Liquor is where you make yourchoices that were really liquor
is something else, dude.
I feel like liquor is the devil.
Cause, dude, even when you'retrying to have a good time, bro.
Like, I mean, most of the timeit's a good time, but it's not

(10:04):
so much the liquor as much as itis.

SPEAKER_01 (10:06):
If you mixed it with beer even then, did you mix it
with beer?

SPEAKER_02 (10:08):
No, no, no.
When I was there, no, it wasjust dude, I was taking shots.

SPEAKER_01 (10:11):
That was it, you too.
I must have taken like youdidn't have beer.

SPEAKER_02 (10:15):
I remember that day, no, when I was over there at uh
with her and I and I had dude,that was bad though.
But I remember I was just takingshots, dude.
Yeah, they kept giving them tome because I was tipping dollars
and they come on, man.
You you know, I don't know howmuch they were paying these
people, but I'm pretty sure youjust if somebody you know you're
a bartender, you're working fortips.
Yeah, so he's like, if I couldkid, you know, yeah, I was like,
boom, a dollar, boom, a dollar,boom, a dollar.
I got you, I gotcha.

(10:36):
I I I mean, I I mean I like tobe generous because you never
know, bro.
Like, yeah, I don't want I don'twant to be rude to these people
that are out here because theyknow these these parts.
They they they probably gotfamily.
You be rude to them and like, ohyou know what, dude?
Let me call out my boys.
I'm gonna kidnap this moment.
He thinks he's he he thinks Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
He's gonna, he's gonna my boy.

SPEAKER_02 (10:55):
Sorry, I mean it's uh you know that's the thing,
bro.
You never know.
You gotta be careful when you'reout there, dude, because you
never know who's watching.

SPEAKER_01 (11:01):
You never sure daddy just drove by.
Dangerous, dude.
It's dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 (11:09):
Who's your daddy?
No, but uh, yeah, dude.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Uh I like to travel, you know.
Yeah, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
Um, I mean, I haven't really traveled until I
came here.
The last time before that, Itraveled to Arizona, but I drove
there out of the states toColorado, or to Colorado, to uh
Mexico.
But the last time I was there Ithink I was like nine years old,

(11:38):
something like that.
Okay.
Something like that.

SPEAKER_02 (11:42):
That's not bad.
No, yeah, definitely.
Uh definitely uh I don't I don'tI don't like to I like to
travel, but just not like uhhopefully we could get our our
our first guest on.
He travels.

SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
Oh, you gonna plug that in?
You wanna plug that in?

SPEAKER_02 (12:00):
He travels, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:02):
Man, be ready for the drive guy.

SPEAKER_02 (12:05):
You know, I know you told him.
You told him he could be ourfirst guest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like the He's down for ittoo.
I feel like the pod could usethe guest uh soon.
You know?
Yeah, definitely.
He got some he got some stories.
Cause see, he travels to likenot des not vacation
destinations.
This guy's trying to go to like,you know, I'm not trying to go
to no yeah, so like I guesslet's plug both of these then.

SPEAKER_01 (12:26):
So I definitely am gonna work on um those couple of
episodes with my son.
I feel like uh that last one hedid with you was he kind of
redeemed himself.
Right a little bit, he wasn'ttoo fucked up.
Right, right, right.
No, was it I don't even know ifhe was fucked up.
That was like a month ago, no.
Yeah, yeah, it was yeah.

(12:47):
Yeah, that's crazy.
So so I I think that one we'regonna put on the page.
I think we're gonna do that uhprobably make that our first uh
paid content.
Maybe ask a dollar or something,a dollar subscription.

SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
At least.
Yeah, a dollar's not bad.
I think a dollar's good.
Just to start off.

SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
We don't want to be good people interested.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, interesting.
And then uh maybe we'll workthis guy in.
See how how we'll see how thisone works out.
We wouldn't need a third uh micand everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause it kind of feels like uhno, yeah, we we'll figure that
out for sure.
Actually, we would need a littlebit more than that now that
think about it.

(13:28):
And then pretty soon we're gonnabe getting our neck our third
kind of co-host in the mix.
Yeah, yep.
Little by little.

SPEAKER_02 (13:51):
Yeah, no, no, no, you know what they say when it
comes to creativity, uh, threethree brains are better than
one.
I mean, because everybody bringssomething to the table,
creative-wise, you know what Imean?
Topic-wise, discussion, and uhthat's why I say uh it's it's I
see people they do do their ownpodcasts and shit and stuff like
that, which is cool.
They got some pretty good ones,and then there's people who got

(14:12):
like three or four co uh hosts,you know.
Right, right.
But yeah, here we just like wesay, we take it easy.

SPEAKER_01 (14:19):
Yeah, that's a part of like uh like I said, our
theme is about of creating thispodcast here.
Right.
I know we didn't get started offthe bat, but I guess we might as
well just get down to thenitty-gritty of it.
So, like that was.

SPEAKER_02 (14:31):
So, like if somebody wanted to, like, let's say
someone listening right nowwanted to know the steps by
steps, what would you just say?

SPEAKER_01 (14:36):
Right, right, exactly.
I mean, what what did we coverlast time?
Going to the stores.
Yeah, and the butt bus sprouttoo, right?

SPEAKER_02 (14:42):
Oh yeah, buzz sprout, we did cover bus sprout
a little bit.
We covered bus sprout a littlebit.

SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
We'll always we'll always be covering bus sprouts a
little bit, but covering alittle bit more because we but
buzz sprout is a big a big partof why we have uh most of those
most of those hits anyways.
So yeah, and and they're greatanyways.
I mean, yeah so far this firstmonth has set up popped off
really good.

SPEAKER_02 (15:02):
Big help, big help, yep.
Big bus sprouts definitely a bighelp.

SPEAKER_01 (15:05):
Yeah, and also maybe set it up for buscast too.
I think I actually think we areset up for bus cast already.
So plugging plugging that inreal quick.

SPEAKER_02 (15:13):
And we're almost hitting the hundred, the hundred
mark, right now.

SPEAKER_01 (15:16):
Dude, we're I mean, like I said, the thing we said
because we're past a month now.
So each day that it go goes by,that counter goes down more.
That's why I'm saying, like,let's let's try again.
We have a whole bunch ofepisodes we can put up, but that
would definitely use up our fourour four hours already within
like the next, you know what I'msaying?

SPEAKER_02 (15:34):
Uh I think we should probably spread it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 (15:36):
Because you we we I wanna I don't wanna Well, I feel
like we have that thattwo-parter, which I think we
might just make a one party?
We may we might just make a uh aa Patreon.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 (15:46):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (15:46):
Your achy breaky partner?
Yeah, yeah.
We're gonna if that's alrightwith you, unless you just want
to throw it on.

SPEAKER_02 (15:52):
We could probably put it on Patreon and see what's
up.
Might as well start messing withthat.

SPEAKER_01 (15:56):
Right, right.
Yeah.
Uh for now.
And then I mean eventually if wedecide to, we'll just unlock
them at some point.

SPEAKER_02 (16:01):
Yeah, yeah.
No, you I'm more of uh I don'twanna put I don't wanna be like
Fast and Furious.
Right, right.
You know, where they're puttingout like 12 damn fast and
furious and they're going to themoon and two per year?
Yeah, and then and then weforget what what we were
originally.

SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
The next one they come out with is gonna be a back
future, dude.
Next time they come out with thedinosaurs.
Next one they come out with isgonna be time traveling.

SPEAKER_02 (16:20):
The next yeah, they're gonna go back to the
dinosaur storm age.
It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
I know, yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02 (16:27):
And I know definitely all like um
everything we put out is gonnabe the best, but I definitely
want to try and put out the bestfor our listeners.

SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
No, for sure.
And like I said, that's thethat's why we're we're starting
this since we're starting thispodcast and we have no
experience.
I mean, I have a little bit ofradio and TV and recording
experience uh musically, andlike I said, you've definitely
come a long way from getting onthat mic, so but now it's just
about honing our skills andtrying to make the show better,
and little by little we'll findsome format.

(16:57):
But for now, that's what it is,is that'll be our topics, and uh
for now that this is what we'retrying to plug in.
A little bit of putt bus buzzsprouts.
So if you're ever interested inchecking out, but if you're ever
interested in checking out howto start a podcast, definitely
Buzz Sprout helps out a lot.
A ton actually, and it even hastutorials to help you give you

(17:19):
ideas, maybe give helps you uhwith a guideline of uh your
first hundred days of a podcastand where you should be at, and
starts giving you a map ofprogress and all that stuff.
And we're definitely going bythat a little bit for now, but
we are definitely looking tobranch out in quite a few things
as far as content.
This whole interview thing, likethis whole two two-man show

(17:41):
thing is is awesome.
We're trying to keep to that.
We are gonna have, like I said,a third co-host.
That way, maybe we can give yousome idea after we exp uh
experiment with it on how to setup your you know, kind of quick
tips on how to what to do, whereto go look for, how to be able
to set all that up.

(18:02):
Because right now I'm in theprocess of that and uh we still
have to get a little bit moreequipment too, because if we do
want to get somebody else, andyou know another person
interview, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (18:13):
Right.
And on top of all that, I I doknow when we first started, we
did run into a couple oftechnical issues.
Yeah, we're still running uhrunning.
No, no, no, definitely andthat's just and that's just what
I want to uh how uh you know,how would you think these people
could prepare for just run it,just run through them, just the
practice drills?
I mean, I remember we were doinga couple of practice drills

(18:34):
ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 (18:35):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, first of all, it really
all started with just us hangingout and and just having
conversations well well, youknow, after work on winding and
stuff, and you that kind of gotus into a little bit more into
trying to focus on after we didthe start of the podcast and
trying to find content, westarted focusing we started
focusing more on specificcontent, whether it was a

(18:56):
certain subject or like now thatwe found this topic starting a
podcast.
It was definitely hard trying tofind content to talk about,
remember?

SPEAKER_02 (19:07):
Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
I mean, me personally, I I I've been
finding myself reading the newsa lot.
YouTube videos for sure.
Yeah, YouTube is uh big outletfor news.
Very well, uh you have to kindof take a lot of it with a grain
of salt.
I I usually like to watch likethose three eye atlas videos,
but those three eye atlas videosyou have to kind of weed through

(19:31):
what speculation and you knowbut is this is actual facts.

SPEAKER_02 (19:36):
There's nothing wrong with speculating, you
know?
Yeah that we're not the onlyones here on earth that's right.

SPEAKER_01 (19:42):
Or in and not to say that that's what it is, but like
it's still interesting the waythat the it's behaving and all
that stuff too.

SPEAKER_02 (19:50):
So you know I haven't heard anything about it
lately.

SPEAKER_01 (19:53):
No, I have well, I mean I think at this point uh it
already passed us.
So but there is a whole nothertheory now with uh like I said,
these are all theories now.
Uh I guess something happenedwith the uh Voyager 2, I think,
or Voyager 1, the furthestsatellite out in space or
something like that.

SPEAKER_02 (20:12):
Oh I heard about that, yeah.
Like it's uh well they've beentrying to supposedly send out
signals or like they send outpictures, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (20:20):
I guess something threw it off course or something
from what they say.
Wow.
A little bit.

unknown (20:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (20:25):
Well, it's a it's a mystery out there.

SPEAKER_01 (20:26):
Yeah.
I didn't mean to get us offtrack, but no, I mean that's
just we didn't really get offtrack.
That's you know, we you knowthat's the whole point, too.
Is like about my idea for thiswas like we start off with like
a little bit of talking aboutthe experience of starting with
the podcast, and then eventuallywe kind of run in it while
giving examples, we run into uhtopics to talk about, like what

(20:49):
just happened right there, youknow.
Yeah.
And sorry, we do apologize if wedon't ever get to to get to a
point and we like get soderailed that it's like
whatever, like yeah, we neverget to the point.
Yeah, but feel please feel freeto get to get to leave comments
and just be like, yeah, dude.
You know what the podcast shouldbe called?
Never to the point.

SPEAKER_02 (21:11):
You know, these guys never get to the point.
It's just one it's like that onething we were talking about
yesterday, how you're readingthe start.
I like that one, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Never to the point, you know.
Here at the show, baby.
Because we you know, we're justhaving a good time, bro.
No, we're messed with you, ofcourse, right?

SPEAKER_01 (21:27):
Yeah, I mean, we did give them a little bit of help
with the budcast, you know,directed him to a good start
right there.

SPEAKER_02 (21:35):
And um, another thing is I remember I think we
switched setups like two orthree times, no?

SPEAKER_01 (21:40):
Well, yeah, we started with the uh with with
your little with your favoriteboard.
Yeah, yeah, I got I got a chargefor you, bro.
Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 (21:48):
Yeah, dude.
I remember, and I mean, like wealways tell the people if you're
passionate about something,whatever it may be, dude.
I know people go to work andsometimes we lose that passion
or like we lose that becausewe're so tired after work, we
really, you know.
But whenever you have time onthe week and revisit it, dude.
Whatever it may be that theylike.
Uh you like drawing, you likemusic.
Yeah, take some time, dude, whenyou got a day off.
Just you know, yeah, and uh so Iknow I know it's it's hard too,

(22:12):
because some things, somepassions do cost money,
depending on what your passionis.
Some people love guns that costsmoney.
Some people love cars, fixingtheir car, swooping it up.
And and but it's it feels good.

SPEAKER_01 (22:22):
I love creating conduct money because I I do I I
have a master mechanics degreeand and all that stuff on gas
and diesel engines, and I haveworked in on automotive on ge on
gas engines for I don't evenknow how many years, like a
decade and a half, I think.
But I've never really beenpassionate about that.

(22:44):
I mean, don't get me wrong, Ilike I like creating things, but
lately I've been finding myselfmore interested in like
woodworking and well, I mean, umI'm a musician too.
I've been a musician longer thanI was a mechanic, so definitely
playing music and creatingcreating sounds, whether it's my
own or other people's music.

SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
Well, like uh, you know, no pressure, just
hopefully uh me and the peoplecould hear maybe maybe a little
clip.
It don't even gotta be old,maybe just 20 seconds.
A Christmas song, you know, oryeah, no rush, no rush, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:19):
You know, it might be like I said, it might be a
Christmas song or a hymn song, ahymn song that that's like uh
like I'll come you of faithfulor something, but uh yeah, no,
definitely.

SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
Yeah, you know, and uh it's funny, dude, because I
remember my taste in musicgrowing up.
I wasn't really into likeNirvana or like no didn't do it,
and like you know, my mom.

SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
That's what got me in the game, son.

SPEAKER_02 (23:43):
Dude, my mom loves she loved like Navana or Sublime
and all of them, right?
So I would be in the carcruising with her.
I was little don't tell me youdon't like Sublime.
No, no, I'm not saying I looklittle right.
Let me put it.
I I was young and I didn't.
When I was young, I reallydidn't.
I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
I'm gonna recommend, dude.
You you throw on, I mean SublimeSublime will probably be the one
that will get you hooked becausethat's the one that got me in.
But listen to you gotta listento the whole album though.
And then I promise you, afteryou listen to Sublime Sublime,
you have to listen to all of it.
Like you go find songs that arelike, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, what the fuck, you know?
And then that's gonna get you alittle bit more interested.
And then listen to uh 40 ouncesto freedom, which is the really

(24:20):
honestly for me their best one.
It's their classic.

SPEAKER_00 (24:22):
40 ounces to freedom.

SPEAKER_01 (24:23):
40 ounces to freedom.
That's the one that's got twosmoke, two joints, and it's got
it's got I mean, that's a cover.
It's got uh what other one doesit have?
Badfish.
Badfish?
Yeah, yeah.
Ain't got no quarrels with God,ain't got no time to get old.
Oh, I think I heard it.
Lord knows I'm weak.

(24:44):
That one?
Yeah.
So that one and uh Myruka.
It's just Caress Me Down.
That's a that's a badass one.
My number, that's another goodone.
Yeah, man, that that whole thatwhole album for me.

SPEAKER_02 (25:02):
So you growing so you grew up listening to this
type of music by choice, right?

SPEAKER_01 (25:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I mean, I was like Ithink like uh 14 years old when
uh when I started listening toSublime Sublime.
And he was already passed uh hehad passed away by then.
I mean I had listened to heardtheir their first, whatever,
their first uh what do you callit?

(25:28):
Their singles, their radiostuff, the first couple of
songs, like Santa Santa.

SPEAKER_02 (25:33):
Right, I remember that one.

SPEAKER_01 (25:34):
And when I got Sublime Sublime, which is their
self-titled one, like I said, Idefinitely liked that one, but
then I I I really then I got uh40 ounces to freedom.
And it turns out that that onewas before Sublime Sublime.
And he had already passed awayby then.
I think he that's like I said,that's kind of what got me
interested in him, becausepeople were like, Oh, he's a

(25:56):
great guy, and all this otherstuff, and he really was a great
guy.
Rest in peace.
Shout out to him, shout out tohis son, shout out to uh you're
gonna burn your fingers, bro.
Shout out to uh shout out to uhRome.
Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 (26:14):
It's just uh I definitely oh dude, I have a
whole playlist now of uh acouple of uh just just uh
Navarna in there, um Red HotChili Pippers in there, a couple
of songs of just everybody inthere, bro.
But like I said, um I was just Iwould be with my mom's and she
would put this on the on theradio or she would be blasting
this type of music, and I Ididn't really pay attention to

(26:35):
it much, you know.
And then as I got older, Istarted listening to it more.
I'm like, yeah man, these thesesongs are kind of hitting, you
know.
You kind of go through somethings and you start trying to
kind of like relating to themusic more.

SPEAKER_01 (26:45):
And then you listen to uh Robin the Hood.
Who's Robin the Hood?
It's another one of theiralbums.
But this one uh they had it wasthey had DJ.
Uh they had a DJ.
I mean, they have a DJ in in allof them at some point or another
in some of the songs, but it wasreally, I think, DJ produced.
So it was kind of more like Idon't know, it was this cool

(27:06):
album.
It's a great album, don't get mewrong.
It was like one of their firstalbums.
I think I'm pretty sure it wasright after I'm pretty sure it
was right after 40 ounces tofreedom.

SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
And these are like garage bandits, uh, garage bands
people kind of like started withthe band.

SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
Yeah, they started off as a garage band.
They were more considered a punkuh reggae ska band.
But that's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
To get a start like that, to you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's how most peoplein those days get get started,
got started.
I mean, most of uh rock androll, that's how most people got
started.

SPEAKER_02 (27:41):
And it's crazy because um I kind of look like I
kind of look around like of whatwe got going here, and it might
not be the prof mostprofessional rock ain't what it
is anymore, you know?
Yeah, well, no, no, definitelynot.
I mean, look at the thing isthough the it's a new generation
and and uh and uh and it's hardto explain.

SPEAKER_01 (28:00):
No, yeah, don't get me wrong, but respect to respect
to some of these rappers or newand coming, even some of these
new incoming artists when itcomes to country music and all
that because pop is more hip-hopnow than it is rock based, but
uh more or more EDM-based, butuh shout out to these guys that
are starting to incor toincorporate whether it's guitar

(28:21):
samples or they actually have anactual artist, guitarist playing
playing some of these guitarriffs or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 (28:28):
It's it's nice to see some of these bands, and I'm
talking about rock bands, right,that are up and coming.
It's nice to see some of themstill giving credit to uh some
of the old school bands that youknow you hear like, oh you know,
what we're gonna do.
Well, that's music is justinfluential no matter what.
Definitely, right?
Like everybody's been influencedby somebody.

SPEAKER_01 (28:45):
Yeah, and then most people start off as uh they they
just got started, huh?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (28:56):
No, yeah, they're just most bands start off as
cover bands.
Cover bands, right?
Like yeah, and then you knowwhat?
They say somebody probably spotsthem and say they uh you know
they got they they look likethey could have a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 (29:06):
Yeah, like there's been a couple bands downstairs
that I've heard that uh youthink they could put something
together?
They did some, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (29:13):
Oh, they did put something together.

SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
No, if they did put something together, that that
you know it would come outpretty decent if they did their
own stuff.
Uh huh.
Original, basically, is whatthey call them.

SPEAKER_02 (29:22):
Oh, okay, okay.
Well, yeah, no, dude.
I mean, you know us, we neverget to the point here.

SPEAKER_01 (29:29):
And yeah.
So uh another thing aboutstarting off uh starting a
studio.
What's that?
Since uh it's coinciding withwhat's happening.

SPEAKER_02 (29:38):
Right, right, yeah, I'm not gonna lie, stairs.
Right.
Yeah, that that that kind ofthrew me off my game.

SPEAKER_01 (29:42):
So that yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_02 (29:43):
Yeah, the music on it.
That's what I'm all right.

SPEAKER_01 (29:46):
Yeah, so what did they say?
Bambalow?
Bambalo, yeah, kind of Spanishtype shit.

SPEAKER_02 (29:52):
It's like some uh Jamaican one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (29:54):
Well, it's uh Caribbean, like Afro Caribbean,
yeah, yeah, some more like SouthSouth American.

SPEAKER_02 (30:00):
Yeah, we might we might go check it out, but no.

SPEAKER_01 (30:06):
I sixted myself.
Um from that place.
Anyways.
Anyways, anyways.
Alright.
So it's always recommended tofind a nice soundproof spot.
Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 (30:21):
You don't want to be right here with the Momba.

SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
From my understanding, is that we could
probably put up some blankets.
Put up some blankets.
Wall of blankets.
Some b so it could deaden thesound a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 (30:32):
Or you know those things from uh Dunkin' Donuts?

SPEAKER_01 (30:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (30:34):
Those cup holders?

SPEAKER_01 (30:36):
Get like a hundred of them and just Yeah, no, no,
it's not one of those things.
He said, Calm down.
Uh the blanket is not gonnadamage my walls.
Okay.
How are we gonna put tape?

SPEAKER_02 (30:49):
No, but they're still still.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, yeah, yeah, blanket isbetter.

SPEAKER_01 (30:53):
You know, it just kind of helps create a better
sound of itens this vibrations alittle bit better.
Oh, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 (30:59):
Um so definitely have a decent space.
Soundproof is it could be agarage, it could be your
basement, it could be your room,uh definitely not above a bar.
Definitely, yeah.
You don't want that.

SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
You don't want to you don't want to do a pod next
to an airport, maybe time youryour cast.
Not that I'm talking smackabout, you know, but like if you
can set a certain time, youknow.
That would always be helpful.
Yeah, yeah.
But it is what it is, you know.
For the we do this for the loveof the game, so fuck whatever
else is happening, right?
Right, right.
That's what I'm saying.
So that's why we wouldn't haveto do that.
So we do apologize if it doesthrow it off again, but at the

(31:35):
same time, at the same time,like I said, it is a good topic
to talk about.
You know, definitely you mightbe off your game once in a
while.
And you know, things you willhave background noise and all
that other stuff.
You might have days where youryour you're kind of your bread
is clouded.
But this is what this is for uswhat helps is um magic mastering

(31:56):
uh through bus route.
It works really good, it helpsreally then some of the
background noise because if ifit didn't cut out a lot of our
background noise, then weprobably wouldn't be posted up
due to copyright infringementbecause they're always playing a
lot of covers downstairs.
And you know, that's one thingwe uh we were worried about.

SPEAKER_02 (32:16):
I know these tools definitely do help, dude, and
they're not really that pricey,especially if depends on if
you're doing everything on yourown.
It's still not as pricey.
Um, but it definitely helps.
Like if you have a team or if itis two people, you might want to
talk about financially splittingit.

SPEAKER_01 (32:31):
So honestly, I feel like that probably won't ever
happen until we start gettingmaking money and are able to pay
somebody to that's willing tocome down.
Right.
But even then, even then, yeah,even then, like we say with the
thing.
Honestly, I would rather justkeep it to about the 50-50s
instead of 33 33.

SPEAKER_02 (32:50):
Right, right, yeah, no.
And we were like we said, weappreciate the people who tune
in and stay tuned and downloadand not 50-50, but you know what
I mean.

SPEAKER_01 (32:57):
Yeah, right, right.
We don't need to go into detailsor not.

SPEAKER_02 (32:59):
No, no, no, we don't yeah.
That's different.
But we definitely are thinkingabout maybe what switching the
name and I yeah, yeah, we arelooking on revamping and
definitely uh changing.
I mean, I like shooter,shooter's cool.
I just feel like it's time tochange it.

SPEAKER_01 (33:13):
Yep, yep, yep.
You know, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 (33:14):
Shooter on play that and uh never been about that,
never ever been about that.
You know, I would suggest not togo to drunk uh to work drunk the
next day.
Uh or hung over.
Or hung over, yeah, definitelythat.

SPEAKER_01 (33:26):
Or hung over for that reason.
Or seriously hung over.

SPEAKER_02 (33:29):
Yeah, you don't want to do that.
So, yeah, no, dude.
It's definitely been a longjourney.
It's still a couple of steps.
We got the bud sprout.
We got the what about thethumbnail?
The thumbnail.

SPEAKER_01 (33:38):
Oh, yeah, you I was gonna try to mention that too.
Yeah, it needs to look a littlebit more freaking.
Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
We need to update it, need to update it.

SPEAKER_01 (33:48):
It looks too need to look like a 12-year-old put it
together and it like doesn'teven fill up the hole.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (33:56):
Yeah.
So that's something we're gonnatake a uh a look at.
That's my bad though.
No, you're not you're good atit.
Um, I do remember um I did sayone time instead of uh running a
show, we should come, I shouldcome over and then we'll do a
little uh editing, yeah, yeah,tweaking stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (34:11):
Every once in a while, yeah, especially when
there's this because there aresometimes we uh tend to say some
things or mention people's namesor your businesses or we don't
shouldn't be talking about ormentioning or right, no, but you
know what it is, dude.
I mean we're keeping it moreconfidential, right?

SPEAKER_02 (34:28):
Yeah, you know, it's not like we're talking so it's
not like we're talking about thebiggest thing.

SPEAKER_01 (34:30):
Yeah, but also too, it's a part of the business.

SPEAKER_02 (34:34):
Yeah, no, yeah, no, I mean it is you know, it is
what it is, dude.
We just try to relate to thepeople out there because I'm
pretty sure some people outthere at work they out there
want to, you know, throwsomebody in yeah, yeah.
That's how it is though,anywhere though.
Anywhere you go, really dude.
Like there's always gonna bethat one person, or there's
always gonna be this and that.
But we just all show up, do whatwe can, and for sure, yeah.

(34:58):
But it does make it easy when uhsometimes you gotta let them
know, like, hey bro, not theone, dude.
Like so you gotta let them know,like nothing crazy, it's just
hey bro, it makes it you don'tgotta make my diet my day harder
just because you're having a badday, yeah?
Stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 (35:12):
I forget, yeah.
Did I talk about Mark Sanchezthe other day?
Oh, Mark Sanchez, the foot thefootball player?
Yeah, yeah.
I was just telling you about himthe other day.

SPEAKER_02 (35:20):
Is that that guy who uh they made him flinch?
And uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or that guy who uh uh tumble?
Yeah, the fumble.
That was the funniest that wasthe weirdest fumble I've ever
seen.

SPEAKER_01 (35:29):
But I never I didn't finish telling you what
happened, dude.

SPEAKER_02 (35:32):
What happened?

SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
Okay, so what they test him for drugs or something?
No, he he's retired already.
He'd been retired for a minute.
And I gotta check out and seewhen this happened.

SPEAKER_02 (35:41):
Oh, did he stab somebody?

SPEAKER_01 (35:42):
He exactly he stabbed somebody?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (35:45):
That's him?

SPEAKER_01 (35:46):
Yeah, that's him.
That was that guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (35:48):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (35:48):
That's what I was trying to tell you.
That was a day ago.
So it just happened, like what,like a couple days ago?

SPEAKER_02 (35:52):
Like, yeah, like not a day.
Yeah, yeah, that was him.
That was him.

SPEAKER_01 (35:55):
Yep, yep, yep.
That's the guy, bro.
Yeah, he played actually, Iforget that he played for he
wasn't with the Broncos for aquick second, too.
Why he stabbed somebody though?
He was drunk, they said.
I guess he was uh drunk.
So the the I'm guessing that hemight have been drunk during
that buff bumble and during allthat stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (36:11):
Well, if he's if that was probably like his last
few games, he was probably likewhatever.

SPEAKER_01 (36:14):
It's crazy because he's younger than me.
I thought he was older than me.

SPEAKER_02 (36:17):
Really?

SPEAKER_01 (36:18):
He's 39, they said.
Oh yeah, he's 38.
Like, what?
He's only 38?
Yeah, he's only 38.
I that's crazy.
Yeah, but wait a minute, like uhRogers is what 40 David Rogers?

SPEAKER_02 (36:32):
I mean, no, Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers, the quarterbackfor uh he's like 41, 42.

SPEAKER_01 (36:36):
He's like, damn, dude.
But then again, too, I mean,those two things happened
towards the end of his career,so he was probably drunk when he
fumbled, dude.

SPEAKER_02 (36:46):
That was the weirdest fumble I've ever seen.
This guy literally just ran intohis player and into his ass.

SPEAKER_01 (36:52):
Like it looked like he barely even hit it, dude, to
be honest with you, dude.
I'm I'm not I'm not joking.
It looked like he slipped.
I don't know.
It looked like he hit his assand fell back.

SPEAKER_02 (37:03):
That was the weirdest.

SPEAKER_01 (37:05):
Yeah.
Like he yeah, yeah.
He's been he was known to dosome crazy stuff on the field.
So yeah, he stabs that hestabbed that person.
Dude, I didn't I didn't know.
Check this 68 years old.
The person he stabbed?
Yep.
Yep.
But it's so so they're sayingallegedly from what I read that

(37:26):
he was so they caught him lateron when he looked at the
footage, he was doingwindsprints in in the in the
alley.

SPEAKER_02 (37:36):
Yeah, I seen I I heard I mean I didn't see the
video.
Yeah, but I heard the title.

SPEAKER_01 (37:40):
They said he was doing wind sprints, and then I
forget who it was, some deliveryguy or something.
Yeah, some delivery guy.
He was probably like, hey, whatyou doing?
No, he parked back there, Ithink ice or something like
that.
Some something.
Some delivery guy was parkinghis thing to go do deliver some
stuff.

(38:01):
And uh he ran over there.
He's like, hey, uh, you can'tpark there.
And um the the football player?

SPEAKER_02 (38:09):
Yeah, he ran to tell the pizza guy he can't park
there.

SPEAKER_01 (38:11):
It wasn't pizza guy, but it was somebody uh I think
it was an Uber guy.
I forget.
I just know it was a deliveryperson.

SPEAKER_02 (38:17):
He told him you can't park there.

SPEAKER_01 (38:18):
You can't park there, and uh, I went to talk to
somebody.
I already went to talk tosomebody, and they said they
told me to tell the tell you youcan't park there, and I guess
the I don't even know if the guywas being like a like a brood or
something.
Yeah, I don't even think he was,but I guess he I guess this guy
charged him.

SPEAKER_02 (38:36):
A sixty-year-old a sixty eight-year-old man and
Sanchez charged him.
But he charged as at asixty-eight-year-old man.

SPEAKER_01 (38:42):
Okay.
Okay, so let's see.
At first, okay, so this is whenthe byspan by when a bystander
walks past Sanchez and theyappear to speak to each other,
but there's no physicalinteraction.
Right after that, Sanchez turnsand starts walking down the
alley towards the loading dockwhen Toll is where Toll is

(39:03):
parked.
At first, he pauses behind adumpster and then starts jogging
towards Toll's location untilhe's out of camera view.
Police say this is uh this isthe time between 1225 and 1230
when Sanchez AM when Sanchezpulled Toll out of his truck,
prompting Toll to pepper sprayand stab Sanchez, and Sanchez

(39:27):
allegedly alleged allegedlyslammed Toll to the ground,
leaving him with a severe faciallaceration.
So this all started Oh no, I soI guess he didn't stab him, he
got stabbed.

SPEAKER_02 (39:40):
Oh, he got stabbed.

SPEAKER_01 (39:41):
But because of so I guess he threw him down to the
ground and something wentthrough his f went punctured his
his uh cheek and uh puncturedhis tongue from my
understanding.

SPEAKER_02 (39:57):
Because he he because he was just arguing with
some random dude, uh thedelivery driver, like I said.

SPEAKER_01 (40:04):
Yeah, or like it says here.
That sounds kind of weird.
I'm wondering what he wasdelivering though.

SPEAKER_02 (40:11):
Probably pizza.

SPEAKER_01 (40:14):
Uh let's find out so he got stabbed?
Mm-hmm.
It just says a service truckdriver.

SPEAKER_02 (40:24):
A service truck driver, he was probably
servicing a truck that wasbroken down, maybe, or towing a
car?

SPEAKER_01 (40:31):
No, it looked like he was delivering something.
It was probably just a fooddelivery for the restaurant.
Because it was like a restaurantslash.

SPEAKER_02 (40:38):
Oh, so he's the victim.

SPEAKER_01 (40:40):
No, he's he's the one that went to go to pull the
driver out of the truck thetruck.
Sanchez did.

SPEAKER_02 (40:46):
The football player went to the truck to grab the
driver out the truck.

SPEAKER_01 (40:49):
Yeah, he pulled him out.

SPEAKER_02 (40:51):
That guy was on crack or some shit.
Yeah, so did he say that driversprayed him and stabbed him?

SPEAKER_01 (40:56):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 (40:57):
You think that's self-defense?

SPEAKER_01 (40:59):
No, they arrested him.
What he was defending himself.
I mean, at one point, at onepoint, when somebody comes and
puts their hands on you, youcould do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_02 (41:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
Doesn't mean it matter if they're punching you
or anything like that.
Especially if they're trying topull you out of the truck.

SPEAKER_02 (41:17):
That's crazy.
Hold on.
What the hell was he doing?
What was it again?

SPEAKER_01 (41:30):
When Sanch uh allegedly when Sanchez pulled
Toll out of his truck, promptingToll to pepper spray and stabbed
Sanchez.
And Sanchez alleged allegedlyslammed Toll to his to the
ground, leaving him with a fsevere facial lacer laceration.
That's fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 (41:51):
That's that's that sounds super random.

SPEAKER_01 (41:53):
I mean uh the dude was 68 years old, they said.
Well, why would the why would uhit's like a 20-year-old age
difference, bro?

SPEAKER_02 (42:01):
That's what I'm saying.
Why would Sanchez go and try tograb it?

SPEAKER_01 (42:03):
He was drunk, they said.
He was drunk.
He was and then they said thathe walked away and he went to
another restaurant.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (42:11):
All prepped spray?

SPEAKER_01 (42:12):
Yeah, well, they they said that first because the
truck driver drove himself tothe hospital and said, Oh, I was
attacked by a football player.
And he's like, I stabbed him andwhatever when he went into the
yard, because he went, he drovehimself to the to the yard.

SPEAKER_02 (42:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:27):
And then I guess Sanchez right after that walked
like a few blocks up to anotherrestaurant, a cafeteria, and was
all bloodstains, blood in hishands, and fucking eating or
whatever, eating and drinking orsomething, something like that.
That's crazy.
And then somebody called itsomebody now, they called the
ambulance for him, they're like,hey dude, you okay?

(42:48):
Because he was stabbed.
He didn't he was pepper drunk.
He was pepper sprayed, so he wassure he's you know, people he
smelled like he had to smelllike pepper spray.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 (42:58):
But you know when you're drunk and you and like
you eat, I don't know how tobelieve me.

SPEAKER_01 (43:01):
I know.
Yeah, the stories I have aboutthat one maybe later on you
know, keep people interested.
But then I guess some I thinksomebody called the either
called the cops or they calledthe the ambulance and hey dude,
I think it was the ambulancelike, hey bro, let's let's go
take you in.
Well no, I think he went first.
And then later on at anotherhospital, he uh was the other

(43:24):
guy.
But at first they were treatinghim as the victim, like like he
was like Sanchez was the victim.
And then as things like a couplehours later, then it got the
wind of the other story thatsome foot football player
attacked him, you know, fromanother guy.
And it's like, uh we have torescue, sir.

(43:46):
So they arrested him in on thehospital bed.
I guess they asked him whathappened.
I don't know.
I don't know, just becauseyou're fucking drunk.
Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 (43:55):
See, that's the thing, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (43:56):
You can't they're saying before before that, dude,
he was doing wind sprints likecrazy.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (44:02):
You think you think maybe all those tackles messed
him up in the head, or you thinkit's just a I mean for him to do
something like that?

SPEAKER_01 (44:09):
And and they're saying that because he was just
he had just rebuilt himself,rebuilt his image from that
those two disasters, and justlike everything from his exit
from that and his exit infootball was just like mired
with just like the poor guy,man.
It's like damn dear poor guy.
He self-destructed.
So, you know, you know it's attowards the end of his career he

(44:30):
m he was more than likelydrinking quite a bit.

SPEAKER_02 (44:33):
Oh yeah.
You know?
Well, it's it's a sad story, youknow.
It had sad it had to turn upthat way.

SPEAKER_01 (44:40):
They say he was he was just he had just re rebuilt
his image, retired from theleague, and became an analyst.
I think he was uh some sort of acommentator or something.
For the Monday night game orSunday night, I forget which
one.

SPEAKER_02 (44:55):
But yeah, I think he uh I know what you mean.
There's like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (44:58):
He nah, no more.
They say he's he's facing uh atleast a cut a year or two of
jail time.

SPEAKER_02 (45:07):
Only I think they're giving him the special trip.

SPEAKER_01 (45:09):
They might give they might give him more.
I don't know, because theMahiri, I guess, later on came
out and said, I'll give I don'tcare who you are.
Exactly.
You come into our town, youcan't just pull randomly.

SPEAKER_02 (45:22):
Yeah, dude.
Come on, man.

SPEAKER_01 (45:23):
You can't just pull people out of cars and yeah,
we're gonna take you to the foodfolks.
So who knows?
There might be more.
If they take him to the fullextent, he might be facing quite
a bit.
Yeah, because uh who knows?
I mean, I know uh you're goingon that having read that, dude.
Yeah, that was yesterday that Iread that.

(45:44):
I saw that.
I was like, damn, dude.
After all the stuff I told you,I was like, damn, bro.
That's why I'm serious.
I think I think yeah, I thinkit's that time, bro, to just you
know, chill the fuck out.

SPEAKER_02 (45:56):
Gas to you know, you don't want to uh to get to a
point where yeah yeah, yeah.
And they always got what thewhite claws though.
White claws are not nothing,just tea?

SPEAKER_01 (46:08):
Tea and water, just tea and water, bro.
Yeah, that's good.
I know a couple of people thatare gonna be a little
disappointed.

SPEAKER_02 (46:15):
It's just yeah, it's just you gotta stick with it.

SPEAKER_01 (46:17):
You could even lie, you know, you could just lie and
be like, um You could just get alittle something, something, and
just you know, like act like Iam and just be like some people
might start acting funny, youknow, but I don't know.
We'll see, we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 (46:32):
It's just it's it's it's hard to tell people because
they don't believe you, right?
Like the people just don'tbelieve, like even if you were
to be like, oh, you just don'twant to drink with me, or you
just don't want to you just wantto drink by yourself, or you're
just not trying to, yeah.
So it's like no, dude.
I'm really not, I'm reallytrying to change no, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:45):
I I think I know how to do it.
I because I think I have thatmuch, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (46:50):
Yeah.
Well, no, definitely,definitely.
But no, I mean, it's always goodto have a few drinks.

SPEAKER_01 (46:55):
Yeah, and I know that when I make a choice too,
to not I won't, you know.
Yeah, well yeah, and usuallybecause I have before, and it
usually takes stuff like thisfor me to be here, you know,
seeing stuff like that and thenfeeling you know uh for no, it's
always uh good to take a breakfrom certain things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (47:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (47:16):
Your boy's not you your boy's not hanging up his
cleats just yet.
He's just no no just no, no,definitely putting himself on
the injured uh in the IRL.
You know, putting himself in theIRL for for a little bit, you
know.

SPEAKER_02 (47:27):
Gotta yeah, gotta re uh freshen up, you know.
That's why it's good to justtake a break, relax, sit back,
recharge it.

SPEAKER_01 (47:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (47:35):
Yeah.
But here at the show, where wenever get to the point and where
we shake it down, we shake itand bake it.

SPEAKER_01 (47:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shake it and bake this guy.

SPEAKER_02 (47:47):
It's been a it's been a wonderful journey.

SPEAKER_01 (47:50):
Yeah, so far so good, man.

SPEAKER_02 (47:52):
You know?
And uh God willing it'llcontinue to be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 (47:56):
Yeah, yeah, totally, for sure.
That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 (48:02):
You know, for the rest of the day, probably just
go visit family, hang out for abit.
Take it easy, dude, because themorning was rough.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't do it.
Yeah, exactly.
I want to kind of go out.
I'm not gonna lie.
It's just I feel like a bummyweather, so that and I'm kinda
trying to save up a little.

SPEAKER_01 (48:19):
So yeah, I know I need to save up too, so that's
that's what I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_02 (48:23):
I would just go see what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 (48:25):
I figure that that'll definitely that and uh
the not drinking will definitelypair well together, as they say.

SPEAKER_02 (48:32):
You think they're gonna start using robots as
cops?

SPEAKER_01 (48:35):
Like actual Nah, we're we're too far from that.
For real?
We're too far from that.

SPEAKER_02 (48:40):
That would be that would be messed up.

SPEAKER_01 (48:42):
Too far from that.

SPEAKER_02 (48:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (48:43):
Way too far from that.

SPEAKER_02 (48:44):
I don't think I would get I don't think I would
stop for a robot, to be honest.
No, nah.
What the hell is he gonna do?
That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 (48:51):
I mean he might, yeah.
I mean he may I mean it would beone of those he'll he'll fuck me
up though.
I'm not gonna lie.
It'd be like a speed trap, islike they catch you, catch you
speeding.

SPEAKER_02 (49:00):
Dude, those things could probably run fast as hell,
though.
Imagine trying to run from oneof those things.
I doubt it.
No, no, they can't.
They can't they can't, they'reclumsy as hell.

SPEAKER_01 (49:12):
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of things you can do.
True.

unknown (49:17):
True.

SPEAKER_02 (49:18):
I would be nice to get one of those little nice
little cleaning robots, though,the ones that you just turn on
and they clean the house.
It was decent.

SPEAKER_01 (49:24):
Yeah, actually, I'm thinking about getting one of
those.
Really?

SPEAKER_02 (49:26):
Yeah, yeah, be careful.
Supposedly they spy on you.

SPEAKER_01 (49:30):
I mean, you you carry your phone on you all the
time, right?

SPEAKER_02 (49:33):
So yo, supposedly the phone gives you spinal uh
back problems, so all that 5Gand stuff.
I don't know.
I went a month without a phone,dude.
Let me tell you, it was the besttime.
Yeah, it was the best time.

SPEAKER_01 (49:44):
I mean, it kind of sucked, like, you know, thank
god nothing happened, likeemergency or nothing wise, but a
month without a you know thereis a a trend of people switching
back to flip phones, flipphones, and even then, like you
can get yourself like a razorthat's it's a smart flip phone.

(50:04):
It's a small screen, yeah.
It's a foldables uh you know.

SPEAKER_02 (50:10):
The only reason I would I would um the only real
app that I would kind of need onlike a flip phone is probably
like maybe spot uh but then youwould need Bluetooth to connect
to yeah, so but maybe GPS.

SPEAKER_01 (50:20):
I mean you can get those apps on the flip phones,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you're still gonna getyourself a little touch screen,
it's just gonna be little flipphone.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think that's how mostflip phones are now.
If you have the if you have theability for touch screen,
they're gonna make that littlescreen a touchscreen no matter
what.
Oh, definitely, definitely.
It just makes it a lot moredifficult to navigate, hence why
people go to flip phones becauseyou still have that technology,

(50:43):
it's just a little bit more thethat that technology will still
be there, the apps, all thatshit is just a little bit harder
to navigate.
Like if you want to get onlineor go do check some shit, is
yeah, it's not as simple asyeah.

SPEAKER_02 (50:55):
Yeah, no, so people are gonna be yeah, like who the
hell wants to be like yeah,yeah, yeah.
So yeah, good time.

SPEAKER_01 (51:04):
At least that's what I imagine, unless it's really
cheap.
If you want to get like a grannycheat uh Obama sort of phone or
whatever.
Little domino phone.
But honestly, if if our phonesspy on us, I imagine Obama Obama
phones definitely spy on us.

SPEAKER_02 (51:19):
Oh yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (51:20):
I'm you know, I'm pretty sure uh pretty sure
they're they're all wired.
Yeah, no, I'm actually thinkingabout uh looking into Incogni or
one of those.
What's that?
Incogni?
Yeah, incognito.
Incogni helps it's it's kindit's web protection.

(51:41):
Um kind of help with uh not tosteal your data.
Get your there, you help getyour uh cancel whatever
subscriptions, wherever yourname's out there where it
shouldn't be out and all thatother stuff.
Or if we get cookies for a lotfrom certain companies and all
that stuff, it's uh it sendsthem help sends them letters to
be like, hey dude, quit withthat shit.

(52:02):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (52:03):
Yeah.
So they're kind of like yourlawyer online.

SPEAKER_01 (52:05):
Yeah, kind of in a sense.
Like, and uh, yeah, they alsohelp with helping you find it's
but also like VPN and all thatstuff too.
I mean, I have VPN through whatdo you call it, Google?

SPEAKER_02 (52:16):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (52:17):
That's pretty good.
Right, right, yeah, notdefinitely.

SPEAKER_02 (52:19):
You gotta protect ourselves out there in the cyber
world.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, that's why I try notto use my phone too much, dude.
Yeah, I really I I I really trynot to, because you know, that
they're every little everylittle tap, every little call,
every little thing, bro, and Idon't like that.
I really don't.
No, you know, there's no needfor all that.
You know, I understand if you'rewatching somebody the first week

(52:40):
or two, but if you see there'snothing going on, they're just a
regular person just living theirlife.
Why you why you why you gottakeep, you know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (52:47):
I don't like that, dude.
Yep, yep, yep.
I hear you there.
But I don't know.
It's it's all about trying tosell you stuff, man.
I get it, but that's too far.
Like, you'd be amazed, dude.
There's ways you can go you cango and check out like all the
the developers and all the thecompanies that are like have
cookies and all that stuff onyour phone and yeah, all the

(53:10):
websites you've been to and itkeeps the log of all that, dude.
Talking about hundreds uponhundreds, even in j and on a
one-day log.
It's in it's insane, bro.
How many people have access intoyour computer, bro?
It really is.
People don't know this.
Yeah, that's why it's five uhVPNs.

(53:31):
Very important, very important.
Yeah, and even then, you know,you know, right research, right?
VPN and encrypt uh encrypting.

SPEAKER_02 (53:41):
Dude, the internet it's a whole different world in
itself.
We are whole different rules,whole different ball game, you
know what I mean?
Data is it.
I feel like I feel like in theinternet world it's it's all
about data, you know, andthere's there's just that's too
much, bro.
Yeah, you shouldn't be takingall that data from from
somebody, bro.
You shouldn't be, you know, andnot nobody's perfect, yeah you

(54:04):
know, no, but if if he's notmaking bombs, if he's not you
know, and then the thing is,dude, you're watching all these
people and look at how manyshootings are happening.
How the fuck, how if you'rewatching people, if you're
watching, if you're keeping aneye on people, yeah.
How dude?
How does this kid get to thelike dude?
And the thing is, like, some ofthese parents or some of these
people are telling them, hey,they're sending them photos, or
they're calling them, hey, thiskid's making threats.

(54:26):
Oh, okay, we'll take care of it.
Yep, yeah.
And then what?
You you do 16 god forbid bodieslater, dude?

SPEAKER_01 (54:32):
They hang up, it's like, yeah, it'll it'll take
care of itself.

SPEAKER_02 (54:34):
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Like, come on, dude, that's somebullshit, dude.
Like, I I don't understand, bro.
Civil dispute, civil dispute.
You know what I mean?
But dude, it's like all thissurveillance for what?
Just a just a yeah, come on,man.

SPEAKER_01 (54:49):
Well, no, that was that that's funny, because it's
it's funny you say that, becauseuh that was the the and that why
I'm saying what I'm saying withthat uh video about that
squatter that was that they werekicking out, every that lady
would call the cops all thetime.
And uh the cops would be likebecause they they would know,
but they all knew the thebackstory of why she was there
and why he was there, and andthey would be like, Well, civil

(55:10):
dispute can't really getinvolved, that's between the two
of you.
Like they were like, unless youguys put hands on each other.
See what I mean?
That's the thing, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (55:19):
But like it shouldn't have to get to that
point.

SPEAKER_01 (55:22):
Or or like uh throw throw things at each other.
I think I guess spitting at eachother too is a is a is a
bookable offense.

SPEAKER_02 (55:30):
But it shouldn't have to get to that point, bro.
I shouldn't have had to wait forsomeone to spit at me to okay,
now we're gonna book them.
Or I shouldn't have had to wait.
Like it I shouldn't have had towait for someone to kick down my
door when I see them coming upmy stairs with a mask and a gun
in hand.
Oh, you can't shoot him.
He's not kicking in your dooryet.
What do you mean he's notkicking in my door yet?
You want me to wait for him tokick in my door?

SPEAKER_01 (55:50):
No, they want you to.

SPEAKER_02 (55:51):
Or take a shit.
They want you to take a bulletfirst, right?
They want you to right then.
Dude, that's ridiculous.
You want me to wait for this manto stab me before I could even
let off a shot?
Are you are you out your mind?
And then what if it's just morethan one person?
What do I gotta wait for allthree of them to stab me?
Yeah, yeah.
It's just it doesn't make sense,dude.

(56:11):
It doesn't make sense.
And and the thing is, it doesn'thave to be that difficult, bro.
You know what I mean?
Like, someone comes, I get it,like someone comes into your
house masked up, trying to doharm, dude.
It's just lay them out.
Nobody wants, I'm pretty suremost people in the world don't
want to have to lay people out.
But if they're coming into yourhouse or trying to hurt you or

(56:32):
your family, yeah, no, forgetabout it.
Forget about it.

SPEAKER_01 (56:35):
And that sucks though, because most people
won't though.
So I mean, look atunfortunately, look at 9-11,
rest in peace.
You know, look at those three,look at those airplanes.

SPEAKER_02 (56:47):
But see, that's a whole different rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_01 (56:49):
I kind of don't want that's a whole that's a whole
different because I I promiseyou this.
I promise you this.
Yeah, never mind.
Never mind.
Yeah, it's a I'm no no no, it'sI'm always down a gold.
Everybody likes to say I wouldhave done this and all that, but
that's that's no, that that'sdisrespectful.
Well, supposedly.
Supposedly didn't they They justhad box cutters, right?

(57:10):
That's what I'm saying, but butwhy they were but they were
threatening bombs, but from myunderstanding, it's like, okay,
well, I mean, if you have a bomband you're still gonna go blow
us up anyways.
Um you know?
I'm going out one way or theother, yeah.
I might as well go out.
Like the one plane that didsurvive, I mean, they didn't
really survive, did they?

(57:31):
But they did they fall back, ordid they for was there a plane
that survived?

SPEAKER_02 (57:33):
Dude, it's I can't remember, but I think they did
fight back, and I think theywere able to land it, kinda,
maybe.
I'm not a hundred percent sure,dude.
It's just a tragic.

SPEAKER_01 (57:42):
I wanna I wanna kinda uh I forget that one.

SPEAKER_02 (57:45):
Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 (57:47):
Did uh any of the airplane from 9-11 survivors
survive it's a tragic story.

SPEAKER_02 (58:07):
Definitely a lot of conspiracy uh conspiracies
behind that one.

SPEAKER_01 (58:13):
Yeah, shout out to United Flight 93.
They're the ones that foughtback against the hijackers,
which resulted in the planecrashing in a field in
Shanksville, Pennsylvania,instead of reaching its entire
oh yeah, that's the one that wasgonna that was heading for the
Pentagon.
Targeted Washington, DC, I mean.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (58:32):
I think supposedly you know, I don't want to get
too much into it right nowbecause we're almost at the end
of the show, too.

SPEAKER_01 (58:38):
Yeah, no, you know, but still.

SPEAKER_02 (58:39):
I've I've you know, I hope the people listening do
enjoy the topics we did bring uptoday and we continue to bring
up.
We always try to bring somethingnew and fresh to the table.

SPEAKER_01 (58:47):
Yeah, I always kind of keep it respectful sometimes
too, you know.
Exactly.
I get it we're in that in inthat time of in that day and age
where shock value makes for moreclicks, but it's not worth it on
my end.
No, definitely not.
Yeah, maybe it's we try to keepit cool.
Yes, I get it.
We sometimes we talk aboutuncomfortable subjects, but
believe me, I don't think wetalk about anything anything way

(59:10):
worse than most people outthere.
Right, right, right.
No, yeah.
And mainly it's it's our ownexperiences.
We're not sitting here talking.
Yeah, we all you know, we umabout other people, you know,
we're not making anything uhfictional.
It's we're not making anythingup, it's uh nonfiction.

SPEAKER_02 (59:26):
Yeah, no, definitely.
That and um we do we try tobring you, you know, updates on
how to start the podcast, a fewtopics, our opinions, and just
how things are, and you know, wewe hope you don't uh cut nobody
out there.
But we do appreciate you guystuning in and staying here with

(59:47):
us.
Had another day at the show atthe Shakedown and uh